'You've been thinking about killing your wife for months' — Naresh Bhatt full testimony part 12

[00:00:00] Speaker 1: but the love that you show for your baby's mother your wife was to dismember her that's the kind of love you offer that's not the love i know that's not love i'm asking is that the love you give to [00:00:15] Speaker 2: mamta please repeat your question [00:00:35] Speaker 1: not only did you cut her up and we're talking about love [00:00:44] Speaker 2: you stuffed her into a trash can [00:00:55] Speaker 3: i accepted that [00:00:58] Speaker 1: i say that again sir yes but you didn't just stuff her into a trash can you chopped her up [00:01:07] Speaker 2: to make her fit another valley to grab any paranormal yes [00:01:19] Speaker 1: that's not love no that's a crime yes the worst kind almost the worst kind you can commit against your wife yes would you agree with me that murder is worse i'm not agree with you you don't agree with me or you do hold on i don't understand you concealed her body yes [00:01:48] Speaker 2: you admit that's a crime yes and you admit you committed it yes there's no question you committed [00:02:00] Speaker 1: the crime of the crime of concealing a dead body yes let's talk about the second crime you're charged with defiling a dead body that's a crime you committed [00:02:13] Speaker 2: yes [00:02:22] Speaker 1: so we're clear you're guilty of defiling a dead body for the jury [00:02:26] Speaker 2: yes but you're also charged with murder right [00:02:40] Speaker 1: yes that is the worst crime that can be committed against a person [00:02:46] Speaker 2: yes yes and you have been thinking about killing mobtha for months that's why i never think about that never ever you typed it out sir it's in your google searches i never did that everything that you did do to mobtha was willful [00:03:31] Speaker 1: not everything everything you did to mobtha was deliberate [00:03:42] Speaker 2: i don't understand the word [00:03:44] Speaker 1: your intention your intention you had the utmost intentions to commit a crime against mobtha [00:04:00] Speaker 3: no [00:04:11] Speaker 1: when you i'm going to jump back into the bedroom the bedroom and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom [00:04:22] Speaker ?: and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom [00:04:22] Speaker 2: and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom [00:04:26] Speaker ?: and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom [00:04:26] Speaker 2: and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom [00:04:30] Speaker ?: and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom [00:04:30] Speaker 3: and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom [00:04:32] Speaker 2: and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom [00:04:38] Speaker ?: and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom [00:04:38] Speaker 2: and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom [00:04:40] Speaker 3: and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom [00:04:53] Speaker 2: and i'm going to jump back into the bedroom [00:04:55] Speaker 4: with not with him you can consult with another interpreter yes sir you can come up i'm sorry [00:05:06] Speaker 3: i'm going to jump back into the bedroom i'll get it from uh [00:05:18] Speaker 4: mr swede he's ready to answer [00:05:21] Speaker 2: so i was carrying her just uh above her abdomen and dragging her [00:05:28] Speaker 1: so her body was still connected to the floor as you pulled her into the bathroom [00:05:47] Speaker 3: i cannot recall all those single events or small events [00:05:54] Speaker 2: yes once it was but i was so panicked i can't remember every single event [00:06:01] Speaker 1: sure but you dragged her into the bathroom [00:06:04] Speaker 2: right i would not use the word drag but i took her [00:06:17] Speaker 1: you pulled her into the bathroom yes yes yes was she actively bleeding as you're pulling her into the bathroom [00:06:30] Speaker 2: no [00:06:38] Speaker 1: you saw the crime scene photos right yes you saw how blue star was applied into the bedroom in the bathroom yes that line from the bed to the bathroom that's all of mapta's blood as you're pulling her in [00:06:57] Speaker 2: correct [00:07:16] Speaker 3: yes [00:07:24] Speaker 1: you saw before you pulled her into the bathroom a pretty substantial pooling of blood correct [00:07:39] Speaker 2: yes [00:07:43] Speaker 1: that blood was so which wrong there was such a large amount of blood that it dripped down through to the bottom of that carpet [00:08:05] Speaker 3: i don't know exactly how much blood was there [00:08:07] Speaker 2: it was a lot though right [00:08:09] Speaker 3: i don't know that [00:08:20] Speaker 1: at some point i don't know when but i'll ask you recognize this to be a crime scene [00:08:30] Speaker 2: right i did not think at that time sure but at some point you realized uh-oh i need to clean this up is that fair to say [00:08:40] Speaker 1: that's what i did not think at that time sure but at some point you realized uh-oh i need to clean this up is that fair to say [00:08:52] Speaker 3: that's what i'm going to do so i'm going to do so i'm going to do that for a long time so i did not think about that for a long time like with purpose of crime [00:09:05] Speaker 2: at some point you realized this was a crime yes and when you recognized it as a crime you had to clean it up [00:09:34] Speaker 3: so at that time i thought it was a moral crime [00:09:50] Speaker 2: not a legal crime i did not know anything about legal crime at that time [00:09:54] Speaker 1: well that was a mistake wasn't it okay what at the time you thought it was a moral crime [00:10:05] Speaker 2: to dismember mamta dismembering any dead body is a moral crime a big crime and the worst kind would be dismembering your wife [00:10:23] Speaker 1: yes and you didn't want anybody to find out about this so you decided to clean the crime scene yes you bought gloves from home depot [00:10:43] Speaker 3: right yes i bought but that's not with that purpose you were doing gardening that day no what you're going [00:10:52] Speaker 1: to use these rubber thick waterproof type gloves on the date that you found your wife dead [00:11:00] Speaker 3: the real i went to the home depot not purpose of the buying the gloves just before i return i usually buy something when i go any store just that's the what i find next next to the check out register it has no purpose related to that but just i bought it doesn't mean it it i did at [00:11:23] Speaker 1: that time doesn't mean it's related to that would you agree with me you're a smart man [00:11:31] Speaker 3: i'm very hard working more than smart i'm smart as well but hard working you're very clever too aren't you [00:11:42] Speaker 1: in some context yes paying with cash is almost untraceable would you agree with me on that yes turning off your phone so the cell towers can't pick up where you are [00:11:57] Speaker 3: buying with the cash cell phone has nothing to do but mostly i buy credit cards wherever walmart wherever i go usually i use credit cards so you bought the gloves home depot [00:12:25] Speaker 1: you go to another store you go to the walmart right yes yes you buy extra strong trash bags right yes at leto apologies uh you bought i'm sorry i'll step it back [00:12:43] Speaker 3: the trash bags you bought at leto i don't know those extra strong or something like that but i buy uh two key ones uh permission to approach a little bag trash bag but i don't know [00:13:04] Speaker 1: looking at a photograph of the trash bags you bought refresh your memory maybe i don't have exact memory but similar type of trash bag i don't know exactly which one you used every single trash bag from this box right no when you went to the walmart you bought a three pack of knives right yes you use those knives to carve up mopter correct somewhere yes in some way yes after you used those knives on mopter you discarded them you threw them out i put somewhere at the donation the donation bin in loudon county no at the baby place got it at the babysitter's trash yes you said those knives could be reused that's why you didn't put them in the trash you put it outside the trash yes did you wash these knives [00:14:56] Speaker 3: i don't remember [00:15:13] Speaker 1: do you remember the name of these knives no but you kept one of them the smallest one you kept in your house yes all right the cops recovered that from your house yes did you use that knife on mata the little [00:15:31] Speaker 3: one no you only use the two other ones on mata just try to use not a lot so that's why i try to give somebody who can use that [00:15:51] Speaker 1: i don't remember the cleaning supplies [00:15:52] Speaker ?: the cleaning supplies [00:16:01] Speaker 1: you bought this on wednesday july 31st at the chantilly walmart [00:16:10] Speaker 3: no you bought cleaning supplies from a walmart on july 31st i do not recall the date but yes not at the [00:16:22] Speaker 1: chantilly somewhere else this is during the period of time that you're discarding things of mantas right yes you bought a two pack of air fresheners right would it refresh your memory to see what i'm looking at [00:16:45] Speaker 3: i do not recall every single i recall like few of those if i showed you a photo of all the things [00:16:51] Speaker 1: that refresh your memory sure friendship approach you may [00:16:59] Speaker 3: buy this i have a memory of buying this i have a memory of buying this this this you're welcome to [00:17:07] Speaker 4: walk up yes of course miss lennox [00:17:13] Speaker 3: i have a memory of buying this bananas rice [00:17:21] Speaker 1: this glade air fresheners so soap or glade air fresheners lysol disinfectant wipes [00:17:34] Speaker 3: and a car air freshener that's all i remember if it's in the receipt i might buy but like no sometimes you buy you don't remember every single sure so it's in the receipt you bought it [00:17:46] Speaker 1: right yes if you're on video buying it these are the things you bought yes you used a carpet cleaner to clean up manta's blood yes and you used almost the entire can correct i don't know how much i use definitely a pretty intensive heavy cleaning job is that fair to say no in the bathroom yes well you also had to get the blood out of the rug was that easy for you to do your question yes was it easy for you to clean manta's blood out of that rug yes it was easy [00:18:32] Speaker 3: just mentally it wasn't easy physically it was easy [00:18:38] Speaker 1: but you did such a good job cleaning manta's blood that from the naked eye nobody could see blood in that bedroom carpet [00:18:56] Speaker 3: yes [00:18:59] Speaker 1: you said you said the bathroom was a little bit harder [00:19:05] Speaker 3: yes why was that harder mentally it was very tough how about physically yes a lot of water is that where you use the saw [00:19:23] Speaker 1: person repeat the question sure in the bathroom is that where you used the saw on manta's body [00:19:35] Speaker 5: can you repeat it can you repeat again can you repeat again sure in the bathroom [00:19:42] Speaker 1: did you use the saw [00:19:48] Speaker 5: yes [00:19:55] Speaker 1: did you put mop this body in the bathtub on the floor or in the shower [00:20:00] Speaker 5: uh medical school the all medical medical process integration that was on the blanket on the floor and when i disposed that was on the bathtub [00:20:39] Speaker 1: there was a lot of blood pouring out of mop this body right uh pouring when you chopped off her limbs blood is pouring out [00:20:58] Speaker 5: that's how the blood [00:21:25] Speaker 1: blood got underneath the bathtub past the caulking correct [00:21:34] Speaker 3: i don't know that exactly how that get there [00:21:39] Speaker 1: and when it was time to actually clean up the bathroom you turn on all the water [00:21:44] Speaker 5: only one tab only one tab only one tab only one tab uh one you know that i'm a three [00:21:55] Speaker 1: only one tab the shower the beds up or the sink [00:21:59] Speaker 5: but top [00:22:03] Speaker 1: turn it on and let it push out water for at least two hours [00:22:08] Speaker 5: no no how long did you let the water run [00:22:17] Speaker 3: just half pull the bathtub and then clean and then let it go you said you filled the bathtub [00:22:22] Speaker 1: half full half full half full with water yes [00:22:26] Speaker 5: half fill the water [00:22:32] Speaker 1: all right we got a bathtub in your bathroom you fill it up halfway with water [00:22:38] Speaker 3: so i fill up half and i clean up and then let it go and then again half filled and clean up but i never filled up on the top okay [00:23:00] Speaker 1: you don't dispute that your water meter in one hour was 111 gallons i want to go back to akash real quick and then i'll move past him can you repeat yes i'm letting you know mr bot i want to talk a little bit more about akash and then i can move past question for you sir you said you've never ever been violent with mata right yes were you ever violent towards anyone else [00:24:09] Speaker 3: uh last fight i have when i was second kidnapped before and after i never remember anyone you never what i never had anyone i never remember i never had no no not anyone how about threatening to hurt somebody i don't know which sense he was talking about but i don't believe anything i have done that i'm trying [00:24:39] Speaker 1: i'm trying to get you to akash but i'm asking you questions first [00:24:46] Speaker 5: not hurting him but twice i called police on him when akash was living in your apartment you had a gun i never had a gun in my life you never had a gun in your life personal gun never ever had in my life did you have another type of gun at the time i never had a gun in my life you never had a gun in your life personal gun never ever had in my life [00:25:12] Speaker 3: did you have another type of gun at my home at my home never at my work if work required yes in personal [00:25:20] Speaker 1: never when you were when you were a fairfax cop or trying to become a fairfax cop you got a gun right [00:25:26] Speaker 3: not personal at the work i have to leave at the work and so when you were inside of your apartment [00:25:32] Speaker 1: at the wickersham with akash did you ever pull a gun on him i never had a gun at that time i wasn't in a police department i'm going to jump forward a little bit more we're past akash let's talk about the liberty gas station that's pretty far from your house correct [00:26:21] Speaker 5: depends on 20 30 minutes sure [00:26:33] Speaker 1: you went to the liberty gas station you ate some food [00:26:39] Speaker 3: yes [00:26:43] Speaker 1: you did not have your phone on you at that time when you went to liberty gas station right you left it at your house [00:26:51] Speaker 3: i don't recall exactly [00:26:55] Speaker 1: when you saw the fbi's map it shows your phone pinging in monastas park yes so when you went to liberty gas station your phone was in the house [00:27:10] Speaker 3: that's what i said that he said but i don't recall in my top of head yes okay yes [00:27:17] Speaker 1: you also had monta's phone on you when you went to that liberty gas station correct yes you discarded some things in the donation box yes shoes [00:27:36] Speaker 3: other clothing items of monta's both uh mine i i don't exactly recall but mine and her whatever the common yes and then especially i remember the shoes i don't remember anything else [00:27:50] Speaker 1: that's not withdrawn after you finished discarding at the liberty gas station you didn't go directly home correct that's not correct where did you go after the liberty gas station [00:28:09] Speaker 3: directly babysitter place [00:28:13] Speaker 1: isn't it true that you went to the south riding recreational center after the liberty gas station no are you sure about this 100 100 100 yes this is not a lie lie not lie i don't know where you're [00:28:36] Speaker 3: talking about the name of the place but like uh what is the name what is the name that you mentioned just [00:28:44] Speaker 1: before it was the south riding recreational center it was further up on route 50. repeat the name for the interview yes south riding [00:29:00] Speaker 3: recreational center i did not stop any what i remember i did not stop anywhere any recreational center or whatever i never stopped anywhere except the one stop sign your car the tesla is a pretty smart car [00:29:17] Speaker 1: yes records a lot of things would you agree with me on that yeah i knew that so if your tesla car records you at the south riding recreational center which is telling the truth you or the tesla [00:29:32] Speaker 3: i know where i was so i just did not where exactly it is if i see the map i can tell you which way i come back otherwise i don't know if it's tesla so i don't think so it was on tesla record well i want to clear one more please clarify uh the person who came from liberty gas station to testify [00:30:05] Speaker 1: you were asking mr adhikari that's who testified uh i forgot the name i remember it and you were showing [00:30:16] Speaker 3: the another car going on opposite direction and then he say like that's not the car he recall recall i wasn't there i was in the opposite direction i can show you the if you have a map i can show you where i go [00:30:38] Speaker 1: judge i don't recall the exhibit number i can get it momentarily but this is the fbi's cellular mapping that was offered into evidence [00:30:49] Speaker 4: are you looking to show it to him to refresh or you looking to publish to show it to mr bach that's so mr bach this is a 40 page document that was admitted into evidence [00:31:09] Speaker 1: so mr bach this is a 40 page document that was admitted into evidence i don't know how to describe this scientific stuff i can tell you where i go you could say right or left i go this way this way come this way this way and then somewhere this way and then this way i left [00:31:45] Speaker 3: okay so what you just demonstrated is you pulled out of the gas station made a right route 50 again right made another right another right made another right on made another right on i don't know where i make another right but i make another right and then there was a uh empty space uh and then there was a one traffic light that's what i remember and then i throw the phone and then just come go this way that's what i was getting at so you answered my [00:32:27] Speaker 1: question this is where you discarded mop this phone yes did you actually destroy the phone did you break the phone [00:32:49] Speaker 3: physically yeah no what did you do to the phone just uh i stopped next to the signal and then there was a side of the road i just throw on the side of the road and it's nally did you power the phone down no [00:33:07] Speaker 5: um thank you sorry nally um your um ordinates nally is a drain drain you throw it into a drain [00:33:16] Speaker 3: the drain in a kid sidewalk could you be thrown jenny i don't know how to say his drain you know by the sidewalk [00:33:26] Speaker 1: and you don't recall which street you were on when you tossed her phone [00:33:32] Speaker 3: i don't i don't [00:33:41] Speaker 1: you definitely threw the phone down into like a sewer drain and sorry that's on the same page of what we're talking about you threw the phone into a drain that's off the curb [00:34:07] Speaker 5: i don't have a hundred percent memory it's not a stop sign it's a red light stop and that's where i i talk that red light came i stopped and that's where i throw the phone i'm trying to see if we [00:34:39] Speaker 1: can figure out from you where this phone is that's why i'm asking you questions okay is the phone in the drain where we cannot find it anymore [00:34:54] Speaker 5: i don't know that i'm moving on [00:35:24] Speaker ?: okay so okay so okay so [00:35:42] Speaker 1: judge i'm going to have two photographs marked as the first one marked as four four nine for identification the second one is four five four identification [00:36:09] Speaker 4: may we approach you may all right all right the commonwealth is withdrawing one of the exhibits and the other is coming in without [00:36:21] Speaker 1: objection you may walk this four four nine for identification do you recognize this photograph yes it's my photograph when is this a photograph of you [00:36:43] Speaker 3: i think it's during my graduation in the army i don't exactly recall it looked like i was in the graduation ceremony 2017 2018 i believe 2017 2017 i am i'm not 100 percent sure maybe 20 if it's 2018 it's a i don't know somewhere 2017 or 18. it's in my facebook so uh this is a true and accurate [00:37:05] Speaker 1: photo of yourself around 2017 2018. yes it's an evidence that's commonwealth 449. all right without [00:37:13] Speaker 4: objection that's received quickly publishing for the jury [00:37:25] Speaker 1: i'll do a walk by judge [00:37:35] Speaker 5: okay yes happy to be a united states soldier [00:37:52] Speaker 3: yes [00:37:54] Speaker 1: did mamta enjoy your status as united states soldier [00:38:03] Speaker 3: i don't know at that time she wasn't on the scene yeah but when she became on scene [00:38:09] Speaker 1: isn't she proud of you to be a military husband yes she supported you in all your endeavors right yes she supported you when you went to pennsylvania yes she supported you when you went to wisconsin [00:38:24] Speaker 3: yes [00:38:27] Speaker 1: well you went to wisconsin without even telling her right no didn't you testify that you just left and no mop to high and dry no i did not say that you didn't say that no okay but still your memory growing up or when you came to this country you wanted to join the military so you could wear the uniform can you repeat you said if i recall that walked into a walmart and you saw a soldier getting recognition [00:39:24] Speaker 3: yes [00:39:24] Speaker 1: people were thanking that military officer for his service to this country that's what you wanted right yes yes it was all about the ego for you wasn't it [00:39:45] Speaker 3: no [00:39:47] Speaker 1: you wanted to be the big man on campus making money big house new car beautiful wife [00:40:04] Speaker 3: yes but i don't accept that as an ego [00:40:09] Speaker 1: it was all alive wasn't it no it was all for show wasn't it no you never got deployed into a combat zone no you were distributing food in wisconsin no and i'm not trying to diminish that service but you were very proud that these afghan refugees were thanking you and taking pictures with you [00:40:44] Speaker 5: saying to you thank you for your service that made you feel good right [00:40:58] Speaker 3: yes [00:41:01] Speaker 1: mamta also tried to inflate your ego correct yes yes [00:41:20] Speaker 5: she called you her king [00:41:26] Speaker 3: yes [00:41:27] Speaker 5: you didn't call her my queen [00:41:32] Speaker 3: yes [00:41:34] Speaker 1: do you have any text messages where you ever call her your queen [00:41:39] Speaker 5: that's not the normal culture but it's normal for the wife to elevate the husband's status and call you the king [00:41:52] Speaker 3: no it's a different culture you got to leave that culture to understand i'm learning it through you sir uh i had another name for her so that's not i you know you know sometimes i prefer sometimes i don't prefer [00:42:10] Speaker 1: usually people give like name each other's what was the name you gave to mama surma sure mom and what does short of my mean [00:42:24] Speaker 3: brave brave [00:42:26] Speaker 1: prayer brave brave brave brave thanks sir judge i'm gonna have a four page set of photographs mark this four four seven for identification copies provided to council [00:43:10] Speaker 4: permission to approach mr bye you might i've been letting this go for a while because i was had some hope that you're gonna finish today it is do you anticipate being done in the next 15 minutes [00:43:30] Speaker 1: of course we're trying to make good use of the court's time that's available judge i think i don't think we're gonna finish but i do i would like to try to use the rest of our time that is available okay [00:44:11] Speaker 4: last how much time that is going that would be 16 minutes that's what's available [00:44:18] Speaker 1: i'm moving judge okay okay four four seven this is four photographs one two three four do you recognize this [00:44:41] Speaker 3: yes [00:44:49] Speaker 1: what is that sir [00:44:51] Speaker 3: it is my home in nepal [00:44:55] Speaker 1: that's your house in nepal yes family house family house that's not the mud hut that you described earlier correct that's actually where your family's from [00:45:06] Speaker 3: yes uh we built this home somewhere 10 some year ago 10 15 years ago i offer four four seven into evidence [00:45:15] Speaker 1: at this time [00:45:16] Speaker 4: and the objection can we clarify [00:45:21] Speaker 5: what when that where when that photo is from [00:45:25] Speaker 1: spot said he made it they built the house 10 years ago [00:45:29] Speaker 3: recall 10 15 something like that there we go and then this is even i don't know like it's any objection [00:45:41] Speaker 4: i have no objection all right got objection [00:45:56] Speaker 1: i don't know judge i'm going to mark this photograph as 461 but not offered at this time [00:46:23] Speaker 4: all right do you want to take the um four four seven exhibit please and bring it to the clerk [00:46:31] Speaker 1: sir i'm going to take this take a look at this tell me if you recognize this [00:46:39] Speaker 4: you may [00:46:53] Speaker 1: Sir, recognize this is a photo within a photo, correct? You recognize the photos within this [00:47:11] Speaker 3: photo? Not the words. No, look like screenshots or some different screenshots, some sending [00:47:18] Speaker 1: ups and I don't know. The photos that are in the photo, are these photos that Mabta had sent [00:47:26] Speaker 2: to you previously? Can you please answer the question one more time? Sorry, ask the question [00:47:42] Speaker 1: one more time. Yes, yes. We're looking at two photographs, right? Two screenshots. And these two screenshots are of photographs, right? Yes. These are photos that Mabta sent to you in December of 2023? No. Did she ever send these photos to you? No. Okay. Question. Nadia Navarro. Yes. When she lived in the apartment with Mabta, this was at the Wickersham address? Yes. Did she ever live with you and Mabta at the Heather Courthouse? [00:48:58] Speaker ?: Never. [00:48:58] Speaker 1: There was an occasion, situation, where you were giving compliments to Nadia and to Mabta, and to Mabta. What comes to me? I'll try to clarify. When you were in front of Mabta and in front of Nadia, you said to Nadia, you said to Nadia that her looks that she's an A plus and that Mabta's looks is a C minus? [00:49:51] Speaker 3: Never. Never said this? Even we did not, before deployment, we did not meet like that, just a baby shower ceremony. No, never. [00:50:02] Speaker 1: Did you ever, did you ever make compliments to Nadia and Mabta while on a FaceTime? [00:50:15] Speaker 3: I don't recall anything like that. Never. [00:50:18] Speaker 1: Question for you, sir. Your application to become a United States citizen. Your immigration documents. You put on that document that you were born in Nepal, correct? [00:50:49] Speaker 3: Yes. [00:50:51] Speaker 1: You also put on that immigration document to become a United States citizen, a date of birth in February of 1987, correct? [00:51:08] Speaker 5: Yes. [00:51:09] Speaker 1: You were not born in Nepal, correct? [00:51:14] Speaker 3: My mom and dad, they know I was born in India, New Delhi. [00:51:19] Speaker 1: How about the United States government? [00:51:24] Speaker 3: No. [00:51:25] Speaker 1: You told the United States government that you were born in Nepal, correct? [00:51:31] Speaker 3: Yes. [00:51:32] Speaker 1: That's a lie. [00:51:33] Speaker 3: It's not a lie, it's a culture. I did not lie with do any intention because that's how we grew up over there. [00:51:52] Speaker 1: Judge, I believe I'll be able to finish within the next five minutes. Okay. Question, answer, question, answer, okay? Sir, you told everybody today that you are a liar, right? [00:52:20] Speaker 3: Yes. [00:52:21] Speaker 1: You've been lying about Mamta for over two years, right? [00:52:32] Speaker 3: No. [00:52:33] Speaker 1: You've been lying about how Mamta died for two years? [00:52:37] Speaker 3: No. [00:52:38] Speaker 1: Didn't you tell the police and the family and the community and everybody that was willing to listen to you that she ran away? [00:52:45] Speaker 3: Not for two years, maybe three weeks. [00:52:48] Speaker 1: No. Since 2024. I see what you're saying. I'll withdraw. From July 29, 2024. Up until the date that you were arrested, August 22, 2024, you lied to everybody during that period of time about where Mamta is, correct? Yes. [00:53:18] Speaker 3: Yes. [00:53:19] Speaker 1: You want us, not us, you want the jury to believe that you're telling the truth today? Of course. And you want them to believe you today, and if they do, you get a huge benefit, right? [00:53:51] Speaker 3: I don't know about the benefit. [00:53:55] Speaker 1: You beat the case if the jury believes you, correct? You beat the case if the jury believes you, correct? [00:53:58] Speaker 2: You beat the case if the jury believes you, correct? [00:54:03] Speaker 3: I'm 100% honestly, I put everything in front of everybody. [00:54:10] Speaker 1: Today? [00:54:11] Speaker 3: Yes. [00:54:12] Speaker 1: But not previously? [00:54:14] Speaker 3: That is correct. [00:54:16] Speaker 1: And you're telling the truth today only to beat these charges, right? [00:54:23] Speaker 3: Whatever I did, I accepted that 100%. Whatever I haven't done, I never accepted. Never done. [00:54:32] Speaker ?: You didn't find Mamta dead, right? Sure. [00:54:35] Speaker 1: You killed her. [00:54:36] Speaker ?: Never. [00:54:36] Speaker 1: You did. No. [00:54:38] Speaker ?: No. [00:54:39] Speaker 1: The evidence that we presented shows that you killed her, would you agree with that? [00:54:58] Speaker 3: No, that's your job, you presenting, so no. [00:55:02] Speaker 1: It's a difficult job, isn't it? [00:55:04] Speaker 3: I don't know. [00:55:07] Speaker 1: You've been planning to kill Mamta for months, right? [00:55:13] Speaker 3: Never. [00:55:14] Speaker 1: When Mamta called the police, that truly upsets you, correct? In February 2024, Mamta called the cops on you? [00:55:33] Speaker 3: Yes. [00:55:34] Speaker 1: You were holding her documents. [00:55:36] Speaker 3: No. [00:55:37] Speaker 1: Those documents are the reason that she would have became a United States citizen? No. And if she had gotten her citizenship, she would have left you, right? [00:55:47] Speaker 3: She already have 10 years of permanent resident card. [00:55:50] Speaker 1: But she wasn't a United States citizen, right? [00:55:53] Speaker 3: No. [00:55:54] Speaker 1: And if she had gotten that, she would have been free from you, correct? Even like she doesn't need a citizen to be free. [00:55:58] Speaker 3: Even like she doesn't need a citizen to be free. She has already 10 years of permanent resident card. She doesn't need to do anything. [00:56:04] Speaker 1: But she wanted to be a U.S. citizen like you, right? [00:56:09] Speaker 3: Yes. [00:56:10] Speaker 1: Yes. And you made sure that did not happen. No. [00:56:14] Speaker ?: That's your perception. [00:56:15] Speaker 3: It ultimately is going to be their perception. [00:56:20] Speaker 1: But because of you, she will never be a United States citizen and she will never be with us ever again. [00:56:30] Speaker 3: The document even you presented, you can check. I fill up those form. I have handwriting. All I have done that. You can see that. I have filled out. I have handwritten. Those are my handwritings. [00:56:48] Speaker 1: I'm going to end with these last couple of questions. After you chopped up mobta, you were talking to blaming mobta. Isn't that what you said you were blaming mobta, you were telling this to your daughter? What memory were you trying to give when you're talking to her? [00:58:03] Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to. I wasn't trying to give her any memory. She doesn't understand what I'm blaming at that time. You did not do a good thing. You leave us behind. Everything messed up. You did not do a good thing. You keep threatening multiple times. I did not take that any way seriously. So she did. That means we are miserable. Daughter is miserable. Myself is miserable back. [00:58:39] Speaker 1: She was the bad memory in your life, mobta? Remember you changed her name in your phone to bad memory? [00:58:47] Speaker 3: At one time, yes. Bad memory run away. [00:58:49] Speaker 1: So she used to have a name in your phone? [00:58:52] Speaker 3: Yes. [00:58:53] Speaker 1: And then you changed it to bad memory? No. [00:58:56] Speaker 3: I never saved her name with mobta because I have six or seven other phone numbers with mobta. I saved her name with Surma. [00:59:05] Speaker 1: Surma. Yes. [00:59:07] Speaker ?: Brave. [00:59:08] Speaker 3: Yes. [00:59:09] Speaker 1: So she did have some term of affection from you in the beginning. She was brave. She then became the bad memory. And then you deleted her name entirely from your list. Is that fair to say? [00:59:24] Speaker 3: No. [00:59:32] Speaker 1: Because of you, because of what you've done, we'll never have a mother ever again. Correct. You're now the bad memory, correct? Sure. The last question. Because of what you've done to mobta, you are now always going to be the bad memory of life. Yes. [01:00:16] Speaker 3: Myself? Yes. No further questions. Yes. [01:00:22] Speaker 1: No further questions.