Naresh Bhatt explains Google searches, feelings after cutting wife's body — Full testimony part 8

[00:00:00] Speaker 1: I have Commonwealth Exhibit 329B3. Aye. [00:00:30] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:02:30] Speaker 1: Mr. Bhatt, do you recognize where this is? [00:02:38] Mr. Bhatt: Babysitter's home. [00:02:42] Speaker 1: Is that your blue Tesla there? [00:02:46] Mr. Bhatt: Looks like yes. [00:02:54] Speaker 1: Do you remember going to this place? [00:02:58] Mr. Bhatt: Not really. [00:03:00] Speaker 1: What are you doing there? [00:03:02] Speaker ?: What did you just put, what did you just throw on the ground there? [00:03:14] Mr. Bhatt: I don't exactly recall, but that is something useful, so somebody can take it and then useful. I threw inside the trash and then that is something useful. I do not exactly remember what it is. [00:03:36] Speaker 1: I believe it is a knife. Okay, so something that someone could use. Yes. What do you mean by useful? Yes. [00:03:43] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. [00:03:44] Speaker 1: And the, but you threw something else into the trash. [00:03:47] Mr. Bhatt: What was that? That is something maybe trash, not useful. Anybody cannot take it. Okay. [00:03:52] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:03:52] Speaker 1: Okay. [00:03:53] Speaker ?: Okay. Okay. Okay. [00:03:55] Speaker 1: How about where are you going now? [00:04:19] Mr. Bhatt: I don't know. Maybe babysit baby. I don't know. [00:04:23] Speaker ?: Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. [00:04:34] Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. [00:04:36] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:04:37] Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Okay. [00:04:40] Speaker ?: Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. [00:04:44] Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. So here you are. Can you put the time for the record please? I beg your pardon. Yes. Okay. Okay. This looks like one minute 35 seconds. I didn't need to fast forward after all. But one minute 35 seconds. Mr. Bhatt, do you remember here? What are you doing? [00:05:06] Speaker ?: What are you doing? [00:05:06] Mr. Bhatt: I guess I park and then go to pick the . [00:05:18] Speaker 1: Okay. And this is you walking right now, right? Yes. And that was your Tesla that had parked? Yes. [00:05:23] Mr. Bhatt: Something on my hand. I don't know that. [00:05:25] Speaker 1: So three minutes later, according to the video, what do you have in your arms there? [00:05:42] Mr. Bhatt: One bag and one hand bag, another hand. [00:05:59] Speaker 1: What is that bag you have in your hand? [00:06:01] Mr. Bhatt: I don't know, like some foods. Is it a diaper bag? [00:06:05] Speaker 1: Diaper bag. [00:06:06] Mr. Bhatt: Yeah. Usually diaper bag, bottles, all belongings to the baby. You know, everything belongs to baby. [00:06:14] Speaker 1: What are you doing here? What are you doing here? [00:06:18] Mr. Bhatt: I believe I'm putting on the car seat. [00:06:29] Speaker 1: Fast forward a little. What are you doing now, Mr. Bhatt? [00:06:57] Mr. Bhatt: Oh, I think that's not me. That's somebody throwing the trash. [00:07:01] Speaker 1: In this blue Tesla. [00:07:02] Mr. Bhatt: Oh, I'm driving backward. Okay. [00:07:05] Speaker 1: And then we're going to come to here. 7:53 AM on July 31st. That's the time that it references. Who is in the blue Tesla on July 31st in the morning? [00:07:24] Mr. Bhatt: I don't see, but I believe that's 100% I am. [00:07:28] Speaker 1: What are you doing when you're looking out here, Mr. Bhatt? [00:07:34] Mr. Bhatt: I don't know what I'm looking at. I don't have a clear memory, but I don't know what I'm doing. [00:07:41] Speaker 1: So here's July 31st at 3:30. Is this your vehicle again? Yes. You're pulling in near the trash? Yes. [00:07:58] Mr. Bhatt: What are you doing here, Mr. Bhatt? It looks like surgical gloves on or diaper gloves on. [00:08:19] Speaker 1: I'm sorry, diaper gloves? [00:08:21] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. [00:08:22] Speaker 1: Why were you putting gloves on? [00:08:24] Mr. Bhatt: Maybe I have a trash on the back, so I'm going to throw the trash away on the trash dumpster. [00:08:31] Speaker 1: Okay. [00:08:32] Speaker ?: Okay. Yes. [00:08:34] Speaker 1: What's in that thing that you just picked up in your hand? [00:08:50] Mr. Bhatt: Clothes. [00:08:51] Speaker 1: Who's clothes? [00:08:54] Mr. Bhatt: Some of mine, some of the majority of mom does. Very light clothes. [00:09:02] Speaker 1: And why are you throwing them away? [00:09:05] Mr. Bhatt: I don't keep those with the memories. And then that is part of another . So that's her day-to-day belongings. [00:09:17] Speaker 1: And what is the thing you have in your hand here? [00:09:20] Mr. Bhatt: I don't recall. Maybe similar, some clothes or something, stuff like that, except the shoes. [00:09:26] Speaker 1: No shoes in these bags? [00:09:29] Mr. Bhatt: Shoes only and the shoes donation. [00:09:31] Speaker 1: And you said something about why you were throwing the clothes away? [00:09:35] Mr. Bhatt: It's her clothes belongings, you know, believe as a . So, like, I'm trying to throw that as what I believe I have to throw those away. And then I was scared about spirit as well, spirit or atma. That's why I was trying to throw that away as soon as possible. Thank you. [00:09:53] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:09:53] Mr. Bhatt: Thank you. [00:09:54] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:09:57] Speaker 1: What are you doing now, Mr. Bopp? And now here's July 31st at five o'clock. Is that your vehicle again? Do you have gloves on your hands, Mr. Bopp? [00:11:01] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. Those looks white, but those, I think, blue. [00:11:05] Speaker 1: And what's in the bag there? [00:11:07] Mr. Bhatt: Same like some clothes or, you know, trash, some belongings. [00:11:13] Speaker 1: You're wearing gloves, you said, Mr. Bopp, but you don't throw them away here, right? [00:11:18] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. [00:11:20] Speaker 1: And what's in that bag? [00:11:25] Mr. Bhatt: I don't know what is inside the bag, some sort of trash or clothes or something like that. [00:11:35] Speaker 1: Are you taking things out of the bag there? [00:11:38] Mr. Bhatt: Yes, if those are useful. So I try to, like, leave somewhere. You know, usually people take from there. I know that from Folgers. So usually if these are useful, I just leave outside so somebody can take it. [00:11:52] Speaker 1: So you went over, you emptied the trash bag beside the trash container and then threw the trash bag away? Yes. But you don't have a specific memory of what it was? No. [00:12:04] Mr. Bhatt: It should be something useful, either some kitchen stuff or we use regular combined stuff or personal stuff. That should be useful. [00:12:15] Speaker 1: And here you are on August 1 at 7:30 in the morning. Is this your Tesla? [00:12:22] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. [00:12:23] Speaker 1: What are you doing here, Mr. Bob? [00:12:35] Mr. Bhatt: Do you know? I don't know. [00:12:49] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:12:50] Speaker 1: And here's August 1 at 4:30. What do you have in your hands here, Mr. Bob? [00:13:01] Mr. Bhatt: It looks like something light stuff. I don't see clearly. The picture was very blurred, but it looks like very light stuff. I'm hanging on my left hand, something like that. [00:13:11] Speaker 1: Do you remember what you were carrying here? [00:13:13] Mr. Bhatt: No, I do not. Again, it did look like something useful stuff. Somebody can use that. If anything I throw, that's the memory I have. If I leave something outside, it should be useful. [00:13:56] Speaker 1: Do you remember how you're feeling on this day on August 1? [00:14:01] Mr. Bhatt: Obviously not good. [00:14:03] Speaker ?: Terrible. [00:14:04] Mr. Bhatt: Okay. [00:14:05] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:14:35] Speaker 1: I'll show you another video, Mr. Bott. Do you know where the apartment is, Mr. Bott? I do. I'm sorry. Ms. Lennox, you need to put on the record what number you're showing. I keep forgetting to do that, Judge. I'm sorry. EXHIBIT COMMONWEALTH 329C. WHAT IS THIS ADDRESS, MR. VOT? I USED TO LIVE OVER HERE. IS THIS AN APARTMENT THAT YOU OWNED? YES. AND THE TIME STAMP FOR THE RECORD IS JULY 31, 148 AM. MR. VOT, WHAT IS THAT CAR? THAT'S MY TESLA. DO YOU REMEMBER COMING TO THIS PLACE AT THIS TIME IN THE MORNING? I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A MORNING, BUT IT WAS 9, 10 AT NIGHT. I BELIEVE I WENT THERE. I HAVE NOT 100% CLEAR MEMORY, BUT I HAVE A MEMORY. DO YOU REMEMBER GOING THERE AFTER DARK? YES. [00:16:22] Mr. Bhatt: WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW, MR. VOT? YOU DROVE PAST. I DON'T REMEMBER. I THINK I WENT TO CHECK THE MAILBOX OR I DON'T REMEMBER. [00:16:34] Speaker 1: AND IN THE TESTIMONY OF THE WITNESS, THEY'RE POINTING OUT THAT THE BLUE TESLA, AND THIS IS A SPLIT SCREEN, THEY'RE SHOWING THAT THERE IS A BLUE TESLA OFF TO THE RIGHT, PAST THE TRASH, AND THAT THEY'RE SITTING WITH THEIR LIGHTS ON. IS THAT YOU? I DON'T KNOW THAT. DO YOU REMEMBER DOING THAT? NO. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU DID THAT? POSSIBILITY, POSSIBILITY, YES. THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A DISTINCT MEMORY OF IT? NO, BECAUSE I JUST GO OVER THERE, I WANT TO SEE THE MAIL. EVERY TIME I GO NEAR BY MY APARTMENT, [00:16:58] Mr. Bhatt: POSSIBILITY, USUALLY I CHECK THE MAIL, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME LEFT OVER MAILS OVER THERE SOMETIMES. DID YOU GO HERE FOR THE PURPOSE OF CHECKING YOUR MAIL? NO, NO, JUST I WANT TO THROW SOME STUFF OVER THERE. [00:17:18] Speaker 1: THAT'S THE PURPOSE. YOU CAME HERE TO THROW THINGS AWAY. YES. YOU MAY HAVE CHECKED THE MAIL. EVERY TIME I PASS THROUGH THE LEIGH [00:17:34] Mr. Bhatt: HIGHWAY, I STOP BY, CHECK MY MAILS, AND THEN USUALLY TENANTS ALSO KEEP SAVING MY MAILS, WHATEVER THE MAILS ARE, AND THEN [00:17:42] Speaker 1: THEY ALWAYS, BEFORE THROW, THEY -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS WHAT YOU WERE DOING HERE WITH THE CAR STOPPED OR NOT. [00:17:50] Mr. Bhatt: I DO NOT REMEMBER, BUT WITH ME. I WAS WITH YOU. AND WHERE WAS -- ON THE CAR SEAT. [00:17:57] Speaker 1: WAS SHE AWAKE OR ASLEEP? AWAKE. WHY DID YOU BRING WITH YOU? [00:18:04] Mr. Bhatt: I'M SCARED, SO LIKE -- SO I BELIEVE MY MAILS IS A GOD, SO -- AND THEN I WANT TO GO WITH -- AND I DO NOT WANT TO [00:18:15] Speaker 1: LEAVE MY MAILS AT THAT HOME. IS THAT -- YOU DESCRIBE THAT YOU THINK IS A GOD, IS THAT A CULTURAL DESCRIPTION? YES. BECAUSE ANY DAUGHTERS ARE -- NOT THE GOD, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, [00:18:31] Mr. Bhatt: THEY ARE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW -- LET ME SAY IN NEPALE. SO, DAUGHTERS ARE LIKE REPRESENT -- SORRY, REPRESENTATION OF GOD. [00:18:48] Speaker 1: SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING TO BE SOMEBODY? AND YOUR VEHICLE'S HERE FOR A WHILE, MR. VAHT, RIGHT? [00:19:03] Mr. Bhatt: THIS IS -- I DON'T RECALL THAT. [00:19:06] Speaker 1: THIS IS SPEEDED UP AT 10 TIMES, SO THIS IS MOVING -- THE TIME IS PASSING. AND IS THAT YOUR VEHICLE THAT JUST -- YES. [00:19:20] Speaker ?: PULLING IN? [00:19:20] Mr. Bhatt: YES. [00:19:21] Speaker 1: THANK YOU. MR. VAHT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? [00:19:29] Mr. Bhatt: OPENING MY BACK TRUNK. [00:19:33] Speaker 1: WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR HANDS HERE, MR. VAHT? [00:19:40] Mr. Bhatt: SOME TRASH BAGS. [00:19:41] Speaker 1: DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT IS IN THE TRASH BAGS? [00:19:44] Mr. Bhatt: I GUESS THE RECENTLY OPEN A RISE BAGS AND THEN SOME SORT OF FOODS, ALREADY OPEN TYPE OF FOODS. OKAY. [00:19:56] Speaker 1: YOU'RE THROWING THESE THINGS AWAY? [00:20:11] Mr. Bhatt: YES. [00:20:12] Speaker 1: SO THESE WERE NOT THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN USEFUL TO SOMEONE ELSE? [00:20:16] Mr. Bhatt: NO, THOSE ARE NOT THE USEFUL STUFF. USEFUL STUFF, THERE IS -- YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO LEAVE OUTSIDE OR THERE IS ANOTHER BEAN, I HAVE TO LEAVE OUTSIDE OR ANOTHER BEAN. THERE IS -- NEXT TO THAT TRASH CAN, THERE IS ANOTHER RECYCLED BEAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. [00:20:31] Speaker 1: YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN THIS TRASH BAGS? [00:20:33] Mr. Bhatt: RICE. COOKED AND UNCOOKED RICE. AND THEN OTHER FOODS, GREENS, YOGURT, STUFF LIKE THAT. [00:20:42] Speaker 1: AND HOW ABOUT THIS TRASH BAG, MR. BOT, DO YOU KNOW? [00:20:58] Mr. Bhatt: I -- I DON'T RECALL. IT'S ALL SOMETHING BELONGS TO KITCHEN OR FOOD, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OR THE -- AND THEN OVER HERE, SOME OF THOSE -- THE TRASH BEAN I HAD IN MY GARAGE, THAT HAS ALREADY TRASH, SO I TAKE THAT TRASH OUT, AND THEN THOSE ALSO INCLUDE HERE. [00:21:26] Speaker 1: SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU -- I WANT YOU TO SAY THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE THE VIDEO WAS RUNNING. WHAT ELSE DID YOU JUST DESCRIBE? [00:21:40] Mr. Bhatt: THE TRASH ALREADY I HAD IN MY GARAGE, TRASH BIN. SO -- [00:21:46] Speaker 1: THE TRASH BIN. [00:21:47] Mr. Bhatt: YES. THOSE TRASH ALSO I TAKE OUT. I DID NOT PUT THOSE TRASH WITH THE BODY, SO I TAKE OUT, AND THEN THOSE TRASH ALSO I THROW. I THROW OUTSIDE, NOT ON THE SAME TRASH CAN. [00:22:00] Speaker 1: SO BEFORE YOU PUT MOMTA'S BODY IN THE TRASH CAN, YOU TOOK THE TRASH OUT? [00:22:05] Mr. Bhatt: THAT IS CORRECT. [00:22:16] Speaker 1: WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, MR. BOTT? [00:22:18] Mr. Bhatt: COME BACK TO THE CAR. MAYBE I'M GOING TO START DRIVING SOON. YES, DRIVING BACK. [00:22:26] Speaker ?: OKAY. [00:22:27] Speaker 1: AND NOW WE'RE ON JULY 31, 1:28 PM, AND THE TIME ON THE VIDEO IS THREE MINUTES. AND AGAIN, CLEARLY FOR THE RECORD, THE TIME IS -- IT'S NOTED THAT THE TIME IS OFFSET BY A LOT. YES. AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE, MR. BOTT? [00:22:54] Mr. Bhatt: JUST FINDING THE PARKING LOT. PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. [00:23:00] Speaker ?: JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. 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JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. [00:23:54] Speaker ?: JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. [00:23:58] Mr. Bhatt: JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. JUST FINDING THE PARKING SPOT. PAPERS. [00:24:08] Speaker 1: PAPERWORK. [00:24:09] Mr. Bhatt: THAT IS CORRECT. [00:24:10] Speaker 1: AND DOCUMENTS. YES. AND WHO DO THEY BELONG TO? [00:24:14] Mr. Bhatt: MOMTA. [00:24:15] Speaker 1: WHY DID YOU THROW THOSE AWAY? [00:24:17] Mr. Bhatt: I DON'T WANT TO KEEP THOSE MEMORIES AT HOME. [00:24:21] Speaker 1: MR. BOT, WERE YOU ALSO CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE NOT FIND THOSE DOCUMENTS? THAT WASN'T MY CONCERN AT THAT TIME. AT THE TIME. YOU WEREN'T THINKING LIKE THAT? [00:24:35] Mr. Bhatt: NO. NO. [00:24:37] Speaker 1: I WASN'T THINKING LIKE THAT. SO NO. [00:24:39] Mr. Bhatt: THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS NOT THROWING EDUCATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. [00:24:41] Speaker ?: IT'S NOT THE -- I WANT TO HIDE [00:24:44] Mr. Bhatt: SOMETHING BUT I WANT TO KEEP THOSE STUFF AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, WHERE I AM AT. SO -- I WANT TO HIDE SOMETHING BUT I WANT TO KEEP THOSE STUFF AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, WHERE I AM AT. SO -- YOU DIDN'T WANT THEM IN THE HOUSE [00:25:01] Speaker 1: YOU WERE LIVING IN? [00:25:02] Mr. Bhatt: HOUSE, YEAH, WHEREVER I AM. AND THEN I DON'T WANT TO KEEP THOSE CLOSE TO ME. [00:25:07] Speaker 1: BUT TO BE CLEAR, YOU WERE TRYING TO GET RID OF OR HIDE HER BODY. [00:25:11] Mr. Bhatt: THAT WAS CLEAR BUT, LIKE, NOT THESE OTHER DOCUMENTS. I SUPPOSED TO BURN THOSE BUT, LIKE, OVER HERE I DON'T HAVE ANY EXCESS TO BURN SO I WANT TO BURN THOSE BUT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE ANY THINGS TO BURN SO THEN I THROW THIS AWAY. [00:25:27] Speaker ?: WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, MR. BOT? DRIVING AWAY. ONE MORE VIDEO, MR. BOT? DRIVING AWAY. ONE MORE VIDEO, MR. BOT? DRIVING AWAY. DRIVING AWAY. ONE MORE VIDEO, MR. BOT? DRIVING AWAY. [00:25:47] Speaker 1: DRIVING AWAY. ONE MORE VIDEO, MR. BOT? [00:25:50] Mr. Bhatt: DRIVING AWAY. DRIVING AWAY. [00:25:58] Speaker 1: ONE MORE VIDEO, MR. BOT? DRIVING AWAY. Mr. Bott, do you know this location for the city? 43673 Little River Turnpike, Liberty Gas Station. I'm sorry, Ms. Lennox, I need you to put the number of the video. This is Commonwealth's Exhibit 329D. Thank you, Judge. [00:26:48] Mr. Bhatt: Thank you. I don't remember the address, but if you say that Liberty Gas Station, I do. [00:26:55] Speaker 1: And we'll start it, that will probably, if you see it, see if you recognize it. Do you recognize this? [00:27:03] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. [00:27:04] Speaker 1: And do you remember going to Liberty Gas Station on this day? [00:27:10] Mr. Bhatt: I do. [00:27:11] Speaker 1: Why did you go here? [00:27:13] Mr. Bhatt: Maybe I want to eat something, but before eating, I feel like very bad, depressed or something like that, again, something my mind is thinking about, again, go for suicide, but, or talk to somebody, talk to your own people or something. But I decided not to like, I find like this is the only place I can, because when I was in the police department in Fairfax, I used to go here every day, and then I know there are Nepalese people, so I want to at least like, feel comfortable to go over there, see them. Because when I was in the police department, I used to go every, almost every day to eat here. [00:27:59] Speaker 1: And what kind of food can you get here? [00:28:02] Mr. Bhatt: All Nepalese food. All Nepalese food. [00:28:08] Speaker ?: All Nepalese food. [00:28:17] Speaker 1: What are you doing here, Mr. Bhatt? [00:28:19] Mr. Bhatt: Try to park in the biggest parking spot. [00:28:32] Speaker 1: Is this you getting out of the Tesla, Mr. Bhatt? [00:28:59] Mr. Bhatt: Yes, ma'am. [00:29:02] Speaker 1: Mr. Bhatt, you don't, you don't look like you're moving very well here. Yes, ma'am. Like your body isn't moving very well. [00:29:12] Mr. Bhatt: I see that. [00:29:13] Speaker 1: You remember this? [00:29:15] Mr. Bhatt: Not clearly, but a little bit, yes. [00:29:25] Speaker 1: Mr. Bhatt, to be clear, this is August 1st. This is after you've cut Ma'am's body and you put it in the trash? [00:29:37] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. Yes. [00:29:41] Speaker 1: Do you remember, do you remember any part of when you're actually there? [00:29:48] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. Majority of part, I remember. Yes. [00:29:52] Speaker ?: Majority of part, I remember. Do you remember getting food? [00:30:03] Mr. Bhatt: I don't, but like, you know, when I was walking, I feel like really exhausted, you know, like how to move my body. I feel like tired, exhausted type of feeling. Yes, I don't remember what I eat over there. But I believe I eat something other than Ma'am. I believe. I'm not 100% sure. I don't think I eat a lot over there. I haven't eat at that time, I think three days or something like that. So, but I don't know what I eat over there. [00:30:43] Speaker 1: Had you, so you hadn't eaten in three days? [00:30:49] Mr. Bhatt: No, I do not. [00:30:50] Speaker 1: Had you been able to keep food in your stomach? [00:30:53] Mr. Bhatt: No, even I vomit the yellow stuff second day, like many times, maybe three, four times. So, I try to eat before that the banana or some fruits. So, like, you know, then I vomit. I cannot eat at that time. So, I want to go here to, especially to, I want to get out of the home. That's the main purpose. I want to go somewhere, but I don't know where I'm supposed to go. I want to go to either temple, but I am not supposed to go temple at that time. So, I don't know what I'm supposed to go. I end up going there. [00:31:31] Speaker 1: You're not supposed to go to the temple? [00:31:33] Mr. Bhatt: At that time, no. [00:31:35] Speaker 1: Why not? [00:31:36] Mr. Bhatt: It's religious belief. So, at least for, at least for a few days, 13 days, at least for 13 days, I'm not supposed to do that. [00:31:47] Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to. Why? [00:31:49] Mr. Bhatt: It's a religious belief because, you know, I'm in a Zutu period, bad period, mourning period. I'm not supposed to do that. [00:31:56] Speaker 1: So, a bad period? A mourning period? [00:31:58] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. [00:31:59] Speaker 1: And is it also because of what you did? [00:32:02] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. What bad thing I have done? Yes. [00:32:07] Speaker 1: And I want to be clear, Mr. Bhatt, what is the bad thing you've done? [00:32:14] Mr. Bhatt: Legally, spiritually, like, you know, I'm not supposed to throw the body on the, you know, it's supposed to be burned with a, you know, proper respect, proper religious way. [00:32:27] Speaker 1: And you didn't do any of that? [00:32:29] Mr. Bhatt: No, I did not do that. [00:32:30] Speaker ?: No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. [00:32:30] Mr. Bhatt: No, I did not do that. [00:32:31] Speaker ?: No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. [00:33:02] Speaker 1: No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. [00:33:04] Mr. Bhatt: No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. [00:33:06] Speaker ?: No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. 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No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. No, I did not do that. [00:41:36] Speaker ?: No, I did not do that. [00:41:45] Speaker 1: Were you worried that you were going to lose your disability from the VA? [00:41:51] Mr. Bhatt: At that point, I don't recall. So maybe, yes, because that's what I have. There is a possibility, but I -- [00:41:59] Speaker 1: Do you not actually remember? [00:42:00] Mr. Bhatt: No, I do not. [00:42:06] Speaker 1: And similarly, you said, does Virginia -- I'm sorry. Does VA disability stop if you go to jail? Do you remember? [00:42:14] Mr. Bhatt: I do not have a clear memory. Definitely, you know, at that point, I searched -- yes. [00:42:20] Speaker 1: And you're worried about that? Yes, definitely. [00:42:22] Mr. Bhatt: I knew that I -- you know, I was in case lab. I know all those stuff, what I have done, so that wasn't good. I knew that. [00:42:30] Speaker 1: And you were worried about getting caught having done that, correct? [00:42:35] Mr. Bhatt: Yes, since the very beginning, yes. [00:42:39] Speaker 1: You -- you -- you put in what happened, the property, who goes to jail? Yes. Same thing? [00:42:46] Mr. Bhatt: Similar, yes. Continuous. [00:42:48] Speaker 1: Why did you sell the Tesla, Mr. Abbott? [00:42:54] Mr. Bhatt: I -- I went -- some of my friends suggest me, like, you don't know how to talk, get a lawyer. So I went to -- I don't know how to find a lawyer. And then I don't know, like, you know, lawyer around here as well, or we have -- [00:43:10] Speaker 1: Well, let me -- let me short-circuit you. Did you get a suggestion -- Yes. -- about it? Yes. This is -- this is before you were ever arrested, correct? [00:43:21] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. [00:43:22] Speaker ?: Yes. [00:43:23] Speaker 1: You put into a Google search, "plane ticket is free for baby flying." Yes. [00:43:30] Mr. Bhatt: At that time, I was about to plan -- plan to drop my baby back home and then come back. That's why I did that. [00:43:36] Speaker 1: We're going to take her to Nepal. Nepal. [00:43:39] Mr. Bhatt: Nepal. And then with the -- and then those. So try to bring over there and then come back. We were talking that over the phone, yes. [00:43:51] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:43:52] Speaker 1: Did you -- where did you suggest you might take -- where were you going to take her? [00:44:10] Mr. Bhatt: Her maternal grandparents. [00:44:13] Speaker 1: To Gita Koffle. [00:44:15] Mr. Bhatt: That is correct. [00:44:16] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:44:42] Speaker 1: On August 17th, you put into a Google search, "Can I donate my baby to my friend?" Do you remember putting that search in? Yes. And why did you search that? [00:44:56] Mr. Bhatt: I do not understand exact meaning for giving baby to somebody. Donation means it's not like donation some stuff, like somebody taking care of my baby. That was -- [00:45:10] Speaker 1: So you're saying donate, but you're saying that you were having somebody take care of her. [00:45:17] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. [00:45:18] Speaker 1: And had that changed? Because before you were thinking about taking her to Nepal. No. [00:45:24] Mr. Bhatt: It wasn't changed. But like, you know, the visa process was going on. All those process was going on. So I was thinking about the person already testified, Mandira Shrestha, if something happens, that person. Or I have one another person in North Carolina. So like, in just case -- just in case something happened to me, like, can you take care of my baby for a short period of time? Or if -- like, you know, until my own parents came or if the visa approved, my, you know, in-laws' parents came. So that's why I searched for that. [00:45:58] Speaker 1: You weren't -- you weren't sure you were going to be able to get the baby to a family member? [00:46:03] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. Because those are the people I used to trust. [00:46:06] Speaker 1: And you mean Mandira and -- and the other person in North Carolina? [00:46:12] Mr. Bhatt: Yes. [00:46:13] Speaker 1: You searched on August 17th for USCIS. Do you remember that? [00:46:27] Mr. Bhatt: No. [00:46:28] Speaker 1: Do you have any idea if that has to do with you or something else? [00:46:43] Mr. Bhatt: I have no idea about that. [00:46:48] Speaker 1: We're just about at the end of this, Mr. Bott. [00:47:13] Speaker ?: We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. We're going to have a couple of minutes. [00:47:31] Speaker 1: We're going to have a couple of minutes. We thought there are a number of searches that don't have dates on them, but are about divorce and property and divorce and things like that. Do you remember searching these things? [00:48:08] Mr. Bhatt: Some of those. [00:48:09] Speaker 1: Yes. Okay. Were they were they? Do you remember why you were looking at those? [00:48:14] Mr. Bhatt: We were just talking about that. And then my nature is kind of inquisitive nature to learn more. That's why like Google is the one source I can learn more. [00:48:26] Speaker 1: And so when you're searching about divorce or property and divorce, you remember some of it. Yes. And it might have had to do with the conversations you were having with mom. [00:48:37] Mr. Bhatt: this. [00:49:07] Speaker 1: Mr. Bott on February 20th at around 11:00 o'clock at night there are two maybe three Google searches one of them for adultery in Virginia define can you go to jail for adultery in Virginia and class for misdemeanor do you remember doing those searches no I don't I think [00:49:57] Mr. Bhatt: that's something related to the news for the news yes usually I do that if I do not understand anything on news so I keep searching that and are you sure that [00:50:09] Speaker 1: this isn't about you wondering about yourself no ma'am you're sure about that sure I wasn't sure because you said because you said yes I just wanted to make [00:50:23] Mr. Bhatt: sure even sometimes you know I don't know like what I search a lot of times you know I search thousands of everybody does search different stuff in a Google so some of them remember some of them forgot and just while we're on that topic [00:50:35] Speaker 1: mr. but you how many do you have any idea how many Google searches during the time period that the Commonwealth's forensic examination report how many times did you search something on Google during these months yeah I calculate maybe at least 14,000 times spend a [00:50:57] Mr. Bhatt: lot of time googling things that's at least like you know at one time I did my own research as well that should be at least 14,000 times [00:51:10] Speaker ?: you you you you you you you you you you [00:51:28] Speaker 1: do you remember searching for using the word meat cutter no I might but like no no I do not remember you don't have a specific memory of why you did that no it's at my home myself and then [00:51:54] Mr. Bhatt: my dad are the only two you and three people are the only eat the meat so and then we do not have a meat cutter at that at one point our family friends father came and then he suggests me maybe at [00:52:07] Speaker 1: that time or I have no idea and same sort of question at one point you search unclear when knife sharpener do you remember searching that I do and do you remember what that was about yes I do [00:52:20] Mr. Bhatt: and what do you remember the timeframe of that I believe yes somewhere is a winter in the winter and what was it about oh I think like we both were at the Dollar Tree shop and then we were buying a something I don't remember exactly what we went for the Dollar Tree and then mum that pick up that knife sharpener oh we don't have this we need this and then the another guy next to us he said like hey this is not the good knife sharpener so I had one time and then it's not the good one so I do not remember we end up buying or not but I don't think we buy that but just I search and then it doesn't [00:53:04] Speaker 1: looks good so we did not buy it there is another search that is from in the late springtime time frame where you search divorce after spouse dies do you remember doing that I have a vague memory of [00:53:23] Mr. Bhatt: that yes do you remember why you would search that long story short a I have a friend or sister something [00:53:32] Speaker 1: like that not a sister just not just like [00:53:38] Mr. Bhatt: a female I know by name but just the sister not the real sister or not the relative sister I help her back in a time as well to find a boy she had like some little problems so even my own brother and then he denied another cousin brother he denied I find few of those when you say you talk [00:54:01] Speaker 1: to your brother and to a cousin and they denied yes you suggested they meet this girl yes to marry with her yes had she been married before I don't understand your question so had this lady that you were trying to help been married before did she have a husband that that before all of this when I'm helping no before that no she never married so okay so did she was was there someone in her life that had died that she was you were trying to help [00:54:37] Mr. Bhatt: her with no that's after her marriage like first I gave my brother or few others rejected and then later she married one of the guys same like same last name like mine neighbors uh in my you know same town but we are not related so finally she married to that person and then he was get he got a bike accident and then he died and bike accident motorcycle okay and then what happened uh he died and then she went back do those all religious or cultural stuff came back always she was sad she live in west coast so seattle washington and then I talked to her multiple time okay come back to the virginia and then you know like now your sister-in-law means my wife gonna be sister-in-law so she's also here you never introduced with her so we can find some boys for you over here so I can help you out stuff like that yes so were you concerned about this was about her yes that is correct that's what you remember yes and then I asked her what the paperwork you made you know death certificate something like that I do not remember usually in Nepalese culture we don't do that even I did not do that when I even married like we did not register so I had few questions and then she had a plan to come over here and during the fourth July vacation or something like that but she did not came after that you know you know it did not go very well but we keep talking very rarely not a lot okay um that's where I end up searching those stuff I remember a little bit um just a couple more things about this [00:56:31] Speaker 1: um okay so you uh I don't need the exhibit but do you remember seeing um the riobe saw yes there was a receipt showing that you bought that in june do you remember that [00:56:47] Mr. Bhatt: I don't remember that date that date how I remember it was about the cricket start and then a few days after the birthday of month I'm sorry what was getting started uh cricket of world cup uh the cricket world cup it is a kind of for cricket yeah world cup cricket the game the game yeah that was [00:57:06] Speaker 1: organized by u.s canada and caribbean countries and so you remember it because it was around the time of [00:57:13] Mr. Bhatt: world cup the world cup cricket yes and then we all been there and then costco is next to the that home depot and then we were buying that since like looking for that since when I buy that uh grass lawnmower machine so that's that's what we buy it has nothing relationship uh with this case [00:57:34] Speaker 1: okay um and did you and and then to be clear um there's also a time when you [00:57:46] Mr. Bhatt: got rid of yes that saw yes why did you get rid of it I was uh working on the tree so we understand what [00:57:58] Speaker 1: you were doing with it did you get rid of it because you didn't want people to find it [00:58:04] Mr. Bhatt: at that time now that that wasn't in my mind my what happened at that time he want to do the job why I buy that then I gave it to him and you gave it to him in payment payment of one day yes but [00:58:17] Speaker 1: you weren't concerned people were going to find the saw that wasn't in my head at that moment judge it's a good breaking point if the court wants to break now how much longer do you have on direct I would say a fair amount we're going to finish today for sure but I still have a fair amount to do like an hour and a half hour okay well that would take us beyond lunch all right we will stop here we'll take an hour