Mamta Kafle Bhatt's brother's full court testimony

[0:09] one second i don't have an interpreter yet okay are you set can you hear okay go ahead [0:51] yes i do all right have a seat mr sweet good afternoon sir good afternoon [1:04] state your full name and spell it for the court and for the jury [1:09] my name is moise kafli and the first name is m a h e s h and the last name k a f l e kafli so my name [1:30] is first name is mahes m a h e s h the last name is kafli k a f l e sir tell the jury where are you from [1:47] where were you born i'm from nepal and i'm born in nepal i'm from nepal and i was born in nepal [1:58] how old are you it's 31 year 31 are you married yes yes where is your wife [2:13] in nepal in nepal do you have any children yes yes how many children do you have and how old are they [2:25] what is that about i have a one son in nepal of three years and one of the same three years in u.s [2:40] so i have a son in nepal who is three years and daughter named in the u.s three years as well [2:49] when you say you have a daughter named is that mamta's daughter [2:57] oh yes you're now going to make her your daughter yes yes when was the last time you [3:14] saw your wife and your son but the one important part of the stream of the russle [3:22] two years ago two years ago i'm going to ask you some questions about your parents [3:35] could you tell us your mother's first name and your father's first name [3:40] my mother's name is gita and the father's name is dilly so my mother's name is gita father's name [3:58] is dilly your mother's here yes yes yes where's your father who accounts in nepal in nepal do you have a [4:12] little brother yes how old is he and where is he he's 18 and he's in nepal he's 18 and he is in nepal [4:27] did you have a younger sister named mamta kafla so i was saying bini mamta kafla now i'm going [4:36] under yes yes the name mamta is that a nepali name mamta never in our money yes yes and if you were to [4:51] translate that name what does mom to me you now i'm like the key that i don't want to go and just [4:57] go now i'm not love secure now love love what was mopped his favorite color mom that was a one [5:15] one burn is a rung kun here it's a red red red did mom to go to school in india mom does he say with [5:30] the bar of the bar of the bar of the bar of the bar of school college nursing team in bar of [5:36] it was college she did her nursing in india and she got her nursing degree in india i see them i do [5:44] nursing degrees oh yes your sister mamta married a man named naresh bot if i go bini mom does he [5:57] listen examines in our spot oh yes yes the naresh bot in the courtroom yes yes can you please point [6:09] them out and identify by an article of clothing a while i the finally he started got it at the [6:14] ground so i want to kill around the walls to look up in the place and rooms wow no no one [6:20] is there and he's wearing a gray suit for the record the witnesses identified the defendant [6:28] naresh bot the record will show that when did mom to marry naresh mom does he lives in or is he [6:39] likely be 20 20 december day 2020 december 10. did you attend their wedding one would be [6:52] around with the my son body yes yes where was the wedding he was a combo with you in nepal in nepal [7:01] prior to mamta and the rush getting married did you have an opportunity to meet with [7:13] the defendant yes yes how long before they got married did you meet with the defendant [7:34] it was approximately one year and and where did you meet with the defendant [7:40] in nepal yes yes you have a discussion with the defendant what type of woman he was looking to [8:03] marry the mine is you pretty bad is amazing of course to call because i met some of the money people are [8:08] going to force in vasa when if he's a monkey grab at you this day someone in general something like that [8:17] some general conversation and as best as you can recall it's been a while what type of woman did [8:24] the defendant tell you he was looking to marry somebody listening to my leg the rams on that [8:29] is something that's okay this is what other you're pretty bad the cost of how was it why does [8:34] i'm going to be i'm going to pose it with you to get what i'll have a nursing party go somebody [8:44] educated in nursing prior to mob to marrying naresh did you talk to mapta about marrying naresh [9:00] mom does he listen or is he's going to be a girl no guy i'm on that's the light of my listen or [9:05] a song of people about him what are they yes what did you say to mapta prior to her marrying naresh [9:17] i'm not asking for what mapta said i'm asking for what mahesh said it's still an out of course [9:28] statement what's why you approach the objection was withdrawn go ahead what did you say to mapta [9:52] prior to her marrying the defendant the mind of your mom dializing how are you pretty bad this [9:59] is going to be a girl nobody gives him another woman sorry i'm asking for a reputation human [10:09] i told her not to get married with this man did you come to learn how many brothers the defendant has [10:40] the violence you probably value because you got this under that's right you when it happened what [10:45] dinjana three did you come to learn how many sisters the defendant has probably about the [10:51] because i didn't want to know what no sister no sister in 2021 is that when mom to move to the united [11:08] states do you know that it guys want to some moments and mom does it something that's america oh yes [11:16] when mom to move to the u.s did you stay in contact with her it was a moment that he says yes [11:22] i mean that's america oh yes when mom to move to the u.s did she stay in contact [11:32] contact with your mother oh yes did you occasionally talk to naresh on the phone and text message with [11:51] him bella bella mother the violin or a song is a and a phone makura garney text message or [11:57] according according to god yes sometimes when you would talk during those sometimes with naresh [12:07] would he talk to you about his marriage with mamta [12:25] when you would speak to naresh or text message with him would he ever complain to you about [12:34] mamta as best as you can recall what were the things naresh would complain to you about [12:56] mama tell the jury tell the jury [13:19] used to tell me she has bad company and because of that her life is being spoiled the rush was saying to [13:32] you that mapta was keeping bad company yes was there anybody specific that naresh is referring to [13:46] as being bad company for mamta this took away mansela maliketer your victim mom does equal [13:58] yes who's that who's that who's that sarita neopani sarita neopani did naresh ever complained [14:15] that mapta wouldn't listen to people so could you clarify your question i don't understand sure did [14:35] naresh when he would talk to you did he ever complain to you that mapta would not listen to specific [14:44] people tell us who naresh is telling you that mapta would not listen to [15:03] i apologize mr interpreter if i could ask i don't know if the court heard it who is naresh specifically [15:14] complaining to you about who mapta is not listening to i couldn't hear you i'm sorry [15:41] i heard mom and dad but i'm not sure who we're talking about we're talking about naresh is telling [16:02] you that mapta is not listening to his parents [16:18] oh yes and that mapta is not listening to naresh [16:22] oh did naresh ever complain to you about finances or about money between mapta and naresh [16:37] i don't remember anything like that question for you in 2024 when was the nepali new year [17:02] the nepali new year is not january 1st every year right nepali now that's correct in 2024 [17:28] was the nepali new year april 13th yes the nepali new year is that a big celebration [17:41] the nepali new year is that a big celebration of the nepali is that a big celebration of the [17:52] so whoever wants to celebrate they do and we wish among friends when mapta moved to the u.s [18:01] did you follow her on her social media tick tock facebook things like that [18:07] oh yes i used to say did you see posts that mapta would put on her facebook and her tick tock account [18:24] mom does he leases you have no tick tock facebook account was a poster regarding you they can only do [18:29] the other one yes every time you saw a post that she made about her and naresh [18:36] and one is of a nourish rawhack of biscuits and poster around that you're going to take [18:40] knowledge addicted yes i used to see that as well and you saw a post that mapta made about her and [18:47] her baby and the way in the mom does it is after after the bus i go by him right your poster when they're [18:52] going to talk to you yes question when mapta would call your mother her mother would she chat with gita [19:12] over video as well the minor person is over mom dial easy i'm a little phone going on the one [19:19] of the my grandma at this two hours someone's was a video marvellous super organic oh pt applies to [19:25] video marvellous yes mostly video let's talk about february of 2024 february through that so we [19:37] did there come a time in february of 2024 where you saw your mom chatting with mapta [19:50] but it was not a video call but the mind of february through that so we're going to [19:55] my liap no i'm i said they come over mom that's on kura can you got it i thought it was a video call [19:59] thiena yeah sir over date yeah it's an exome is a video college stop bad you call the audio material [20:08] i do not remember the exact date but there was a time when there would be only audio call no video [20:17] during this audio call between mapta and your mother was there something about that call in february of [20:26] 2024 that caught your attention but the wangu i'm a guru i'm a guru mom does he goes into my [20:34] phone call one audio john call mark by february days that's all this man there are somewhere [20:38] i make it a while is it is to kb says who has it a while you take no way this matter jones [20:43] it up i go then a person boy to guard nam um so they video call one pull two of a kina video [20:49] call jane stop boy audio matric all by that's about nicorati switching mainly yes that's correct [20:55] normally they would talk over video and i was wondering why they were only like talking in audio [21:03] when you saw your mom and your sister talking to each other over audio did you then go to speak with [21:16] mapta why she's doing that don't tell us anything mapta may have said mom thales [21:43] did mapta send a photograph when you went to talk to her [21:49] as to why she's having an audio chat not a video chat with your mother [22:09] yes she had sent it you received the photo from mapta mapta but as a photo to my pound boy oh yes [22:23] i'm going to ask you a few questions it's either yes or no to these questions okay [22:38] after you received this photograph did mapta say to you please save this [22:46] yes yes [22:56] did mapta say might need in the future [23:02] mapta say this to you after you saw [23:52] for this photograph that she sent to you [23:56] the pain is i didn't photo what he's talking about sorry mom [24:05] yes or no did mapta say this don't tell mom and dad [24:11] you could i'm up well i know [24:17] overruled there's no assertion [24:19] so do you understand the question when personal wisdom [24:25] can you please repeat did mapta say this to you after you received this photograph [24:32] don't tell mom and dad [24:34] mom and dad [24:36] did mapta also say this i am sending this and unsending for me [25:02] it's not an assertion judge i'm arguing it's not even hearsay i'm also coupling that with [25:11] mapta's which i would i'm adding as a hearsay exception of the court find it as such that this [25:19] is mapta's state of mind i'm sorry you've got to approach that objection was overruled pursuant to [25:42] present sense impression question did mapta say this to you after you received this photograph [25:53] i am sending this and unsending for me [26:11] oh yes yes that is true did mapta also say this to you after you received this photograph [26:18] i have not eaten in two days response not hearsay okay i'm gonna allow it [26:37] again did mapta say this to you after you received the photograph [26:43] from her i have not eaten in two days [26:46] oh yes lastly did mapta say this to you after receiving this photograph i am not safe [27:11] response state of mind and present sense impression overruled um yes again after you received this [27:20] photograph from mapta did mapta say this to you i am not safe i'm going to have two photographs [28:20] yes marks for identification as four five two a and four five two b permission approach [28:53] copies being handed to council mahesh take a look mr koffle take a look at these two photographs [29:15] tell me do you recognize these photographs your photos are these or is this the photograph [29:37] that mapta sent to you in february of 2024 [29:46] yes i'm gonna ask one more question about these two photographs are these photographs true and [30:15] accurate photographs that mapta sent to you in 2024. [30:20] your photos are your photo or your photo is that you can photo [30:25] do this to everyone oh yes all of these into evidence says 452a and 452b any objection [30:38] you may all right ladies and gentlemen i have um overruled in part and sustained in part and lawyers [30:55] are gonna try and work within that judge i'm gonna withdraw the attempt to admit 452b at the time that [31:22] you're seeing your mother talk to mapta on audio and then you talk to mapta shortly thereafter correct [31:38] but when you go to talk to mapta about not being on a video call you communicate with [32:12] her over text and it's a phone call with her okay the bailey mom that's amazing you now could be [32:21] similar correctly probably was some crystal calico crack and what takes got it on informa for my [32:27] for her to the tech is at china just good as you got i think he's so much about you just to [32:35] light out here uh i'm not sure uh which made her but i spoke to her uh because i thought that she had [32:44] some problem but as you're talking to her about some problems you're having phone calls with her [32:53] and you're having text message communications with her when she wanted someone says to laggy [32:59] but she definitely will i moment on the phone matter for the text got it up and i can't go [33:06] yes that way yes when mapta is saying to you i'm sending this and unsending for me was she [33:16] referring to some text messages that she sent to you mom dolly yo my little team like what i don't [33:22] happen into my life and i know what i don't happen into yeah but i don't know what's up [33:27] right now um so many kibuznubo kissing when i answer to a war get you money a dj you could [33:39] i don't know what's up because i i heard that if uh what she meant that she's sending me and on [33:59] sending herself that means if she kept those videos or kept those items that uh he could delete that [34:06] that i'm going to sustain that as to the last portion of he can delete them so don't tell me [34:15] what mapta meant by it when she's saying to you i'm sending and unsending for herself did you [34:30] interpret that to mean in your own mind she wanted you to have this information but she deleted it off [34:38] of her phone yes this communication with mapta the text message conversations the phone calls did [35:07] this happen over a couple of days mom's mom that's some of your text messages and phone call [35:17] everything's also correct and uh price to southern kura down too yes normally we know we talk more often [35:30] when you first started to talk to manta about only doing an audio call two days later is that when [35:45] mamta sends you this photograph oh right and it was a screenshot of a photograph correct [36:09] yes and on your phone did you also screenshot the date that you received this photograph from [36:39] mamta you screenshotted this photograph from mamta on february 3rd 2024 [36:59] oh yes right i'm going to move on and then come back to this did you ever discuss with mobta [37:36] her becoming united states citizen oh well a monta song wow america can agree one day [37:43] probably for me to be samuel it's awful for god mathem um i live bar as a mirror interview [37:48] signing out these are 101 at you yes uh she told me that she had submitted again just a question [37:58] simple did you discuss with her her becoming united states citizen the objection sustained you can answer [38:04] that well if you don't believe it's you want to solve for god you are making agree one [38:10] you could you gauge how she felt about becoming united states citizen america [38:31] overall not yet one thing i have for america america native they gorda ko monsters to to be like [38:39] prokriya ko be the llama customer who's going to be like one of them who could see nitty american [38:46] agricole about that he becoming a citizen she was very happy did you ever have a conversation with [39:00] mamta about her getting a divorce with naresh mom that jilay uh no race on the same of a [39:11] part but you can go to divorce because of money the same and stop recording about this too good [39:17] out of now too yes those matters came up your nepali culture are there any impacts that come about [39:34] when a divorce occurs or if it was to occur between two nepali people nepali i'm running [39:42] a valley foreign paramma parpa to keep we circuit possibly at this day parney proper [39:48] party very probable body man i'm going to put in my case overruled on foundation overruled on relevance [40:05] maybe a little broad but i'm going to allow it and see if you need to break that down [40:11] sure in your culture in the nepali culture what if any impact is there when two nepali people try to [40:24] get a divorce let's talk about august of 2024 august at that time did you come to learn that your [41:01] sister mamta is missing in july how did you come to find out mamta was missing [41:29] my mother told me that she couldn't get through mamta's phone once you heard your mother's efforts [41:42] to talk to talk to mamta that she couldn't get through what if anything did you do [41:48] my lady java and i like or that he for lagging up on the top of the morning i finally think [41:53] what's already phone fairy try going on slapping i tried by myself does that mean you tried calling [42:05] mamta mom down the phone when you press go to me oh yes did she answer the phone no after you tried [42:18] calling to speak to mamta and she didn't answer the phone did you try calling the defendant naresh [42:26] mamta july phone going to press go to walk for no laggy but she apparently pretty baggy norish [42:32] like i'm going to press go to my name mommy k phone matter press great yes i tried but through my [42:41] mother's phone interpretation i threw my mother's phone through his through mahesh's mother's phone [42:49] my microphone yes i was just clarifying for oh yes okay thank you sir when you tried calling [42:59] mata through your mother's phone did she withdraw and did you try reaching out to naresh and did you [43:11] talk to naresh about where is mata i'm okay when what about it in the valley knowledge you like some [43:18] people talking about where is boolean coming in the valley in the beginning we could not get through [43:31] the phone let's kind of walk through a timeline if you could recall that's when a summer answer [43:41] did you call the rest on friday august 2nd 2024 to talk about where is mata [43:48] What did Nuresh say about where his wife may be on Friday, August 2nd? [44:09] He told me she went for work and she has not yet returned. [44:25] Did you call Nuresh on the next day, Saturday, August 3rd, 2024, to ask Nuresh, where is Mata? [44:49] What did Nuresh say about where his wife was? [45:02] Same thing, he told me she went for work and she has not returned yet. [45:08] Let's go to the next day, Sunday, August 4th, did you call Nuresh to find your sister? [45:27] Yes, I did. [45:40] What did the defendant say about where Mata was on Sunday? [45:45] Well, he told me there are other people missing from our neighborhood as well. [46:08] I don't know where she was missed or she was lost. [46:14] That's what Nuresh is telling you about where's Mata? [46:20] Did Nuresh say anything about the baby being a factor in trying to find Mata? [46:36] He told me because of the baby, he could not go anywhere and find out what happened because of the baby. [46:57] That's what he told me. [46:59] Let's go to the next day, Monday, August 5th, 2024. [47:17] Did you talk to Nuresh about where is Mata? [47:21] All the days, August 5th, 2004. [47:27] So, when Nuresh said that Mata had cancer, then he went for it. [47:35] Did you talk to the police? [47:36] Why did you talk to the police? [47:37] Why did you talk to the police? [47:38] Yes, I did. [47:40] And I told him, why don't you file a complaint to the police? [47:43] Did Nuresh say anything about Mata's phone or her laptop? [47:49] Can I interview the lab to request a repetition, please? [47:54] I'm sorry. [47:55] Did Nuresh say anything to you about Mata's phone or Mata's laptop? [48:01] Yes, he told me when she went for work, she took her phone and she took her laptop. [48:29] Did Nuresh ever ask you to do anything to help him find Mata? [48:55] I didn't realize Mata is not being responsive to your calls, your mother's calls, Nuresh's efforts. [49:01] Is that why you came to the United States? [49:04] Oh. [49:05] Yes. [49:06] Did you fly from Kathmandu, Nepal, to Dulles, Virginia? [49:12] Yes. [49:13] Did you fly from Kathmandu, Nepal, to Dulles, Virginia? [49:29] Yes. [49:35] The airport code for Kathmandu, is that KTM? [49:39] Kathmandu's code is called KTM. [49:43] Oh. [49:44] Yes. [49:45] Since you've been here in Virginia, what have you done to try to find Mata? [50:00] Consulting with the police station. [50:05] I have been consulting with police and law enforcement. [50:09] Based on your efforts, sir, have you been able to find Mata? [50:16] No. [50:18] No. [50:19] Where do you think Mata is? [50:21] Mata is? [50:22] Relevance. [50:23] Relevance. [50:25] It goes to the efforts and basically the conclusions. [50:28] It goes to the investigation. [50:29] Sustain the objection. [50:30] Since July of 2024, have you seen Mata post any new social media videos about herself? [50:42] No. [50:44] No. [50:45] No. [50:46] No. [50:58] No. [50:59] No. [51:00] No. [51:01] Was Mata a good sister? [51:02] Yes. [51:03] Yes. [51:04] Is she a good mother? [51:05] Yes. [51:08] Yes. [51:09] Would Mata ever have left her baby? [51:12] I don't think so. [51:13] I don't think so. [51:14] I'm going to have a photograph marked as 434 for identification. [51:17] copies being provided to counsel. [51:18] Commission approach. [51:19] Yes. [51:21] Yes. [51:25] Yes. [51:26] I'm going to have a photograph marked as 434 for identification. [51:29] copies being provided to counsel. [51:31] You may. [51:32] Sir, do you recognize this photograph? [51:34] Your photo genome, sir. [51:35] Oh. [51:36] No. [51:37] No. [51:39] No. [51:40] No. [51:41] No. [51:43] No. [51:44] No. [51:45] No. [51:47] No. [51:48] No. [51:49] No. [52:12] No. [52:13] No. [52:14] No. [52:15] No. [52:16] No. [52:18] No. [52:19] No. [52:20] No. [52:25] No. [52:26] No. [52:29] No. [52:31] No. [52:32] No. [52:33] No. [52:34] No. [52:35] Yes. [52:36] What is this a photograph of? [52:37] Who silkقahskoo里? [52:40] My disease knew how much this photograph happened in my past. [52:46] When Mata, Mata was with her daughter, she took this photo and sent it to me. [52:51] Do you.. [52:56] In the photograph, is there a photo of...? [52:58] This photo. [53:01] Oh. [53:02] Yes. [53:04] Can you tell how old is in this photo? [53:08] On this photograph is a picture that you found at the same place? [53:11] It's not different. [53:13] Basically. [53:14] I'm not exactly sure, but she was not even a year old. [53:21] Do you recall if this photograph was sent to you in 2023 or in 2024? [53:43] I cannot recall exactly the timing. [53:53] But was born in 2023? [53:56] What month is she born? [54:02] My name is Jan-Win Ma. [54:04] August. [54:05] August. [54:13] Is this a true and accurate photograph received by you from Mamta? [54:20] My name is Mamta. [54:25] Yes. [54:26] And the time period being after birth date of after August 2023? [54:33] I'll frame the time frame this way. [54:48] Is this a photograph sent to you from Mamta between August of 2023 and August of 2024? [54:54] Oh. [54:55] Right. [54:56] I offer this photograph 434 to evidence. [54:57] Any objection? [54:58] Without objection, that's received. [54:59] Judge, I'll also offer Commonwealth's 452A into evidence at this time. [55:04] Any further objection? [55:05] You may. [55:06] You all have about another few minutes in you or do I need to make a break now? [55:09] I've only got one thumbs up. [55:10] I've only got one thumbs up. [55:12] Everybody else doesn't want to tell me. [55:13] All right. [55:18] You're good. [55:19] All right. [55:20] All right. [55:21] You're good. [55:22] All right. [55:25] Let's. [55:26] Your Honor, I'm going to have a thumb drive marked as 336 for identification, marking this one [57:03] thumb drive as 336 for identification, permission to approach the witness. [57:08] 336 you said? [57:10] Yes. [57:11] Sir, on this thumb drive, there's four videos, correct? [57:18] Yes. [57:19] Have you seen these videos before? [57:26] Yes, I did. [57:29] Where have you seen these videos before? [57:38] These four videos. [57:39] Are they true and accurate videos that Mamta posted to her social media accounts? [57:46] Yes. [57:47] Your Honor, I offer these four videos, which I'll distinguish as A, B, C and D, into evidence [57:59] at this time. [58:00] Any objection? [58:01] No problem. [58:02] Without objection, those will be received. [58:03] Judge, for the two photographs that were admitted, I would like to just quickly publish [58:28] those for the jury as a walk-by and then the remaining four videos I'll publish on the [1:00:48] television with the court's permission. [1:00:49] You may. [1:00:50] Actually, I'm just going to publish 434. [1:00:51] That came in without objection. [1:00:52] Thank you. [1:00:53] I'm now going to publish the four videos, A, B, C, D, Kamalows 336. [1:02:06] Publishing A first. [1:02:38] The record, that was an 18 second video. [1:03:02] Now I'm going to publish B. This is a 14 second video. [1:03:08] Publishing C. [1:03:26] Lastly, D. This is a one minute and four second video. [1:04:06] I hit the court judge, sorry. [1:05:40] My last question, sir. [1:05:43] This document, this photograph, 452A. [1:05:57] Is this a true and accurate screenshot of the information that Mapta sent to you in February [1:06:10] of 2024? [1:06:12] Yes. [1:06:13] Yes. [1:06:14] Your Honor, I will put this into evidence 452A into evidence at this time. [1:06:28] Further objection than we've already discussed. [1:06:30] I will give the limited instructions. [1:07:07] Ladies and gentlemen, I am admitting this photograph of a screenshot. [1:07:20] Within the screenshot, there is another photograph. [1:07:23] The photograph of that is being admitted to show part of the conversation that you heard [1:07:29] the testimony of what now feels like a while ago on those first questions where Mr. Sweet [1:07:35] asked the witness, did Mapta say, I'm sending this and I'm sending it? [1:07:41] Did she say she feels unsafe? [1:07:44] That whole conversation there within that same time period, a few days, this was sent. [1:07:51] This photo goes towards all of that, but the photo within it that she sends him does not [1:07:59] mean that that's an accurate look of what she looked like at that time or previously. [1:08:05] That we don't have any foundation for. [1:08:08] We do have foundation that she had said she's unsafe and that this is a fair and accurate [1:08:13] depiction of what she sent him. [1:08:16] And so with that limiting instruction, you can only take it for that piece there. [1:08:24] Publishing 452A to the jury. [1:08:28] And I know we just published it on the big screen. [1:09:14] If there's time and with the court's permission, permission to pass this exhibit for the jury's [1:09:19] inspection or we could do this another time. [1:09:22] It's, it is. [1:09:23] Okay. [1:09:24] 436, they haven't had an afternoon break and she hasn't crossed. [1:09:27] Your Honor, that was my last question for Mr. Koffle and I will turn these exhibits [1:09:33] into the court. [1:09:34] How long is your cross? [1:09:35] This is longer than we normally go and we're going to take about five minutes so everybody [1:09:48] can stand and stretch, but I'd like us to get through this witness today if we can. [1:10:00] All right, counsel. [1:10:05] I am hoping to keep this to five minutes. [1:10:07] So bring in the jurors. [1:10:15] All right. [1:11:13] Ms. Redwald, any cross? [1:11:17] All right. [1:11:18] This is witness. [1:11:19] Well, he, I know he's been saying in, in the courtroom. [1:11:22] He's just subject to the rule and witnesses, but we have no further questions. [1:11:25] All right, sir, you can step down. [1:11:28] You are still a subpoenaed witness. [1:11:30] So you're still subject to the rules and you need to be available throughout the trial. [1:11:33] Okay. [1:11:34] Go ahead and have a seat. [1:11:37] You can go ahead and have a seat. [1:11:38] You can go ahead and have a seat.