Naresh Bhatt admits to lying as prosecutor begins questioning him — Full testimony part 9

[00:00:00] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. [00:01:00] Speaker 1: All right, we are ready to continue, Mr. Bott. You're still under oath. You can take the stand still. [00:01:19] Speaker 2: So, Mr. Bott, again, just a couple of smaller things that I feel like. It might not be clear enough, so I want to go back and just make sure that things are clear before we move to the next section. I asked you about buying the saw in June, and you mentioned sort of in the same sentence that it was something about a lawnmower. Did you buy the lawnmower at the same place as the saw, or was there, what was the connection? You mentioned them in the same sentence. [00:02:19] Mr. Bott: No. I forgot the name. Like, when we buy a lot of stuff, big sale in the beginning of the winter, Black Friday. I buy that in a Black Friday, and then during the Black Friday, I have that as well. So, later, and then I buy the computers, two monitors. [00:02:42] Speaker 2: You bought the Blombo or a Black Friday? [00:02:45] Mr. Bott: Black Friday, and then that was from the Costco. At that time, they do not have that at the Costco of the Manassas. So, that was also our list, and then I buy all those stuff, not that. So, because of the tree branches, managing those, so that was the connection. [00:03:04] Speaker 2: Well, that was a later purchase. [00:03:06] Mr. Bott: Yes, because that was a new home. Everything I have in the new home, everything, like, new stuff. So, I was buying everything new at the new home. [00:03:15] Speaker 2: And you were buying it, bought the saw for, you said, tree branches? [00:03:20] Mr. Bott: Yeah, like, branches, cutting the branches, because I talked to the guy. He said, like, $7,000, $8,000, something like that. I said, like, I'm going to do it by myself. [00:03:29] Speaker 2: You asked somebody for a quote about tree branches. [00:03:31] Mr. Bott: Yeah, and then another guy who came here to testify, he said he's going to do it for $1,000, but, like, he want to do it in winter, not in the summer. It's expensive. Then I say, like, you know, okay, that's the purpose. Then that's how he teach me, and then he, like, you know, okay, then I gave it to him. If I don't need it, you can take it. [00:03:48] Speaker 2: But you bought it in June for your purpose, was... [00:03:51] Mr. Bott: Yes, yes, ma'am. June somewhere. So, you're going to do that work yourself? What I remember at that time, you know, we were together, and then it was Cricket World Cup. That was started somewhere in Texas, or... World Cup. Cricket World Cup, yes. The sport, the game. [00:04:07] Speaker 2: Okay. And that's how you place the timing of it? [00:04:11] Mr. Bott: Yes, otherwise, I don't know the time. That was around the Cricket World Cup beginning, so... [00:04:15] Speaker 2: Okay. And then a couple of other things that I think I didn't clarify very well. I asked you whether Mahesh had ever been in your house before. Had Sunita Thapa ever been to your home before? [00:04:27] Mr. Bott: Never. I saw her first time at the courtroom. [00:04:30] Speaker 2: Okay. And as far as you know, she never had been in your home, Sunita. [00:04:34] Mr. Bott: I never seen her before, and she never been in my home or never been in my place. [00:04:38] Speaker 2: And then how about Sarita Nupani? [00:04:41] Mr. Bott: She had been in my Pulsar's home at one time. I don't remember how many times in Manassas. Maybe five, six times, or maybe more. [00:04:53] Speaker 2: So Sarita had been in the home and been around you and Mahmouda? [00:04:59] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:05:00] Speaker 2: All right. And then there were a couple of things that I just neglected to ask you about, but we need to go back and clarify. Just taking you back again to July 29th. [00:05:16] Mr. Bott: Okay. [00:05:18] Speaker 2: You described that there was vomit on the floor. Did you clean that up? [00:05:24] Mr. Bott: I did. [00:05:25] Speaker 2: And when did you do that? [00:05:29] Mr. Bott: Little bit of those pills, tablets, capsules, and then some of those stuff on the same day. And then better clean, I think like after two, three days. [00:05:42] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:05:44] Speaker 2: And then how about the bathroom? Did you clean the bathroom? [00:05:48] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:05:49] Speaker 2: And how did you do that? [00:05:52] Mr. Bott: With the water, same dose of water, and then the cleaning supplies, little bit of cleaning supplies, and then mostly water. [00:05:59] Speaker 2: Okay. And did you buy the cleaning supplies in order to do that? [00:06:03] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:06:04] Speaker 2: For the purpose of cleaning the bathroom? [00:06:06] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:06:07] Speaker 2: And then how about the carpet in the living room? Did you clean that? [00:06:11] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:06:12] Speaker 2: And did you buy the supplies to do that? [00:06:15] Mr. Bott: I don't recall I used that or not. I don't recall that, but I clean, yes, with the cleaning supplies, yes. [00:06:23] Speaker 2: And how did you go about cleaning the carpet? [00:06:27] Mr. Bott: Just spray, leave the spray for a long time, and then clean with the cloth and the papers. [00:06:35] Speaker 2: And Mr. Vaat, you did that because you didn't want any of that to be evident or to have it there anymore. Is that right? [00:06:43] Mr. Bott: No, that's not right. At that time, I don't have any on my mind about evidence, this and that. Just I was cleaning. I don't have, during the cleaning or this process, I have nothing in my mind about, like, I'm cleaning the evidence or something like that. That wasn't on my mind at that time. [00:07:00] Speaker 2: And then, but eventually, you were worried about that also? [00:07:05] Mr. Bott: Yes, later. [00:07:09] Speaker 2: I passed right over this and forgot about it. Did you, what did you do with Mamta's phone? [00:07:19] Mr. Bott: Mamta's phone, I tried to open it. It doesn't open. And then, I threw it away. [00:07:27] Speaker 2: When did you throw it away? [00:07:30] Mr. Bott: I believe that was August 1. I'm not 100%. I believe that was August 1. [00:07:37] Speaker 2: And did you throw it with all her other belongings that you threw away? [00:07:42] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:07:42] Speaker 2: And then, lastly, about, you gave Mandira some personal items. [00:07:55] Mr. Bott: Some, yes. [00:07:56] Speaker 2: What did you give Mandira? What do you remember giving Mandira? [00:08:01] Mr. Bott: Expensive stuff, gold, jewelry. [00:08:04] Speaker 2: And why did you give that to Mandira? [00:08:07] Mr. Bott: It was after a week or two, like, every day, at least 50, 100 people, you know, back and forth coming to my home. So, just, like, I have a good trust on her. Like, just, she's not my sister, but treating as a sister, so close to me. Then, I gave it to her for safety. Keep safe, or, like, you know, I might lost over here, so you can keep with you. That's going to be safer for me. [00:08:37] Speaker 2: What did you intend to happen to that jewelry? [00:08:42] Mr. Bott: Question one more time, please. [00:08:44] Speaker 2: What did you ultimately, what did you intend to happen to that jewelry? What did you want to happen to it? [00:08:52] Mr. Bott: Just keep it safe, you know, like, keep it safe for us. [00:08:58] Speaker 2: And did you give her some of your jewelry as well? [00:09:00] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:09:01] Speaker 2: What did you give her of your jewelry? [00:09:03] Mr. Bott: I had a, usually I don't wear, but I had a ring, necklace, chain, stuff like that. [00:09:16] Speaker 2: Did you get another, I'm sorry, I can't remember the Nepali name for it. Did you get another of those threads? [00:09:44] Mr. Bott: No. No. I had at my home, but I did not wear that. [00:09:50] Speaker 2: Okay. [00:09:51] Mr. Bott: The secret thread, the jenai. [00:09:54] Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. [00:09:55] Mr. Bott: Yes. I did not wear that. Still, I don't have that. [00:09:59] Speaker 2: So, last few things here, Mr. Vought, and I'm not going to, I'm not going to put the jury through watching all of the video and everything all over again, but what I'm talking about is you lied after August 1st, you lied to lots of people, correct? [00:10:25] Mr. Bott: Correct. [00:10:26] Speaker 2: You lied to Mamta's family when they were worried and trying to find her. [00:10:31] Mr. Bott: Correct. [00:10:32] Speaker 2: Why did you lie to them? [00:10:35] Mr. Bott: I was unable to tell the truth, how I'm going to tell the truth. So, I tried, but, like, I was unable to tell the truth because what I have done was really, really bad. [00:10:47] Speaker 2: And what did you do? [00:10:49] Mr. Bott: You know, whatever I have to do with the body, that's, you know, I threw somewhere, somehow, that's really, really bad. Even, like, I'm hesitating to say, you know, over here as well. Yes. [00:11:02] Speaker 2: How about how you treated her mentally and emotionally before you found her? [00:11:10] Mr. Bott: Within those few months after, let's say, January, not January, like, January wasn't that bad. Like, February and March, whatever happens, we were arguing this and that. After that, it looks very good, but, like, I wasn't talking to her, avoiding her, even, like, rejecting the sex, everything, like, I wasn't eating the food, even Nepali food. That's why I called to Mandira one time, hey, I want to eat the Nepali food. And then I wasn't, I wasn't talking to her. And then I set a boundary. In 24 hours, we will talk only 10 minutes if it's needed, not more than 10 minutes. And then we were not talking, like, sometimes, yes, but, like, majority of time, like, whole day, maybe sometimes in 24 hours, two minutes, sometimes not even two minutes, sometimes. [00:12:01] Speaker 2: You didn't want to tell her family that you had been doing that? [00:12:04] Mr. Bott: I never tell, like, anybody that. Like, we have that, like, looks like everything good, but, like, because we were not talking to each other. And then even, like, cooked food, I wasn't eating the food, you know, usually, like, even I have a gastritis, GI problem. I was eating at the White House cafeteria. [00:12:22] Speaker 2: Why did you lie to her friends about this? [00:12:26] Mr. Bott: I kept that secret with me, like, you know, holding that truth. I was unable to tell that because I scared about everything. [00:12:35] Speaker 2: Scared about what? [00:12:37] Mr. Bott: Everything. Everything means whole world. Not only job, not only reputation, not only this. Scared about whatever you say, yes. Everything means, I don't know how to describe everything. [00:12:53] Speaker 2: And you lied to your family about it. [00:12:59] Mr. Bott: Up to a point, yes. [00:13:02] Speaker 2: You lied to the police repeatedly, over and over and over again. [00:13:07] Mr. Bott: You are right. [00:13:08] Speaker 2: And, again, you were worried about getting caught? [00:13:12] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:13:13] Speaker 2: You were worried about that they would find out what you had done to her body. [00:13:16] Mr. Bott: That is correct. [00:13:19] Speaker 2: You lied to the media about this. [00:13:21] Mr. Bott: That is correct. [00:13:22] Speaker 2: Over and over, every time you talked to the media, you lied to them about this. [00:13:27] Mr. Bott: That is correct. I'm going to say, like, I keep my secret or I did not disclose what I have done. It's a lie, yes. [00:13:35] Speaker 2: And you let everyone believe that she may be just missing. [00:13:44] Mr. Bott: Except myself. [00:13:46] Speaker 2: And you, that was, that was something you stuck with all the way through the three weeks after Mamta died and you did that to her body. You let everyone believe. [00:14:01] Mr. Bott: You're right. [00:14:03] Speaker 2: And you were worried about yourself, right? [00:14:05] Mr. Bott: That is correct. [00:14:06] Speaker 2: When did you, when, not what, when did you first tell the truth about this? [00:14:18] Mr. Bott: I don't remember the date or time, but like, you know, somewhere here in the jail. [00:14:25] Speaker 2: In the jail. [00:14:26] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:14:32] Speaker 2: So we're very near the end now in the rush. And as you know, once we finish with our case, the Commonwealth is going to have an opportunity to call their witnesses. Maybe the same witnesses before, before, maybe new ones. And they're going to say that Mamta told them you have used her. [00:14:55] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:14:56] Speaker 2: Physically. And they get to go first and last. You're not going to get a chance. Yes. To say anything against what those witnesses say. You've had a lot of, so I want to know, did you, you've thought about. [00:15:13] Mr. Bott: Never even thought about, never. [00:15:15] Speaker 2: And you've had a lot of time since you were arrested in this case until you're on the stand today. You've had a lot of time to think about this, right? [00:15:24] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:15:27] Speaker 2: Have you thought about it? [00:15:29] Mr. Bott: Repeat the question, please. [00:15:30] Speaker 2: Have you thought about this during that time period? [00:15:36] Mr. Bott: No. [00:15:37] Speaker 2: About what happened, about what you did? [00:15:39] Mr. Bott: Never. [00:15:40] Speaker 2: Now, have you, have you been thinking about it while you're in the jail? Have you been thinking about what you did and why you did those things? [00:15:49] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:15:50] Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't think I was asking it very well. Have you thought about it a lot while you're in the jail? [00:15:58] Mr. Bott: Every day, yes. [00:16:00] Speaker 2: And do you have regrets about what you did? [00:16:06] Mr. Bott: A lot. [00:16:09] Speaker 2: What things, looking back, do you regret or that you would change? [00:16:17] Mr. Bott: The behavior I have performed before the incident happened, that was the biggest regret I have. [00:16:24] Speaker 2: And how about after you found her? Do you have regrets? [00:16:31] Mr. Bott: Yes, that was the biggest mistake of my life, yes. Biggest regret of my life, yes. [00:16:37] Speaker 2: Not calling 911? [00:16:40] Mr. Bott: Regret, yes. [00:16:41] Speaker 2: And doing that to her body? [00:16:44] Mr. Bott: That was the biggest regret. Regret. [00:16:46] Speaker 2: And then lying to everyone that you talked to about this? [00:16:51] Mr. Bott: Also regret. [00:16:51] Speaker 2: If you could change things now, would you do it? [00:16:55] Mr. Bott: Absolutely. [00:16:59] Speaker 2: What would you do differently now, Muresh? [00:17:02] Speaker 4: Objection. [00:17:05] Speaker 2: I'm going to allow it. What would you do differently now, Muresh? [00:17:10] Mr. Bott: Very simple. It wasn't rocket science. Just ask what is going on. Instead of, like, being unkind, just go to the doctor or psychiatrist, whatever it is. Or to the senior people of the family. [00:17:27] Speaker 2: Senior people. [00:17:28] Mr. Bott: Senior means, like, our parents. Both side of parent. Or, like, some senior people who already live their life. Who already know what is life. Like, at least, like, who has 50, 60 years of age. Or some, you know, we started already meditation, this and that. Also, I did not participate. She go for couple counseling, something like that. A lot of online type of mental health, you know, stuff. I did not pay any attention. Like, you know, she was doing, like, she asked me, even, like, hey, do you want to do this meditation online? We already pay for, and then we can do this, too, at a time. I did not even listen. I did not. I pretend, like, I'm not listening to her. And then I just usually go upstairs. Even, like, if she's in a master room, I sleep in another room. If she's in another room, I sleep in a master room. One day, I go with the nurse, she sleep on my chest. [00:18:29] Speaker 2: So, let me ask you a couple of questions. Did you defile the dead body of your wife, Manta Kappa? [00:18:41] Speaker 5: Yes. [00:18:43] Speaker 2: Did you conceal the dead body of your wife, Manta Kappa? [00:18:50] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:18:51] Speaker ?: You killed your wife, Manta Kappa. [00:18:54] Mr. Bott: No, not even imagination. [00:18:57] Speaker 2: All the questions I have here. Cross? [00:19:20] Speaker 4: Ready? Ready? [00:19:21] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:19:22] Speaker 4: You're a liar. [00:19:23] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:19:25] Speaker 4: You lied. [00:19:28] Speaker 1: Order. Not doing that. [00:19:33] Speaker 4: I want to identify everybody that you lied to. And if I forget somebody, tell us. You lied to Gita Koffle. Right? [00:19:44] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:19:45] Speaker 4: You lied to her, to Manta's brother, Mahesh. [00:19:49] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:19:53] Speaker 4: That's for starters, who you lied to. [00:19:58] Mr. Bott: Would you mind to repeat that one more time? [00:20:00] Speaker 4: I'll ask a different question. You're an admitted liar to this entire jury. Everybody in this room knows now that you are a liar. [00:20:10] Mr. Bott: That is the only one thing I lied. [00:20:13] Speaker 4: That's the one? What's the one thing you lied about? [00:20:20] Mr. Bott: About that case at that time. [00:20:22] Speaker 4: About the Manta case. That's the case you lied about. Right? Didn't you say to the police that you never lied? Those are your words? You never lied. [00:20:42] Mr. Bott: Yes. Can you? [00:20:46] Speaker 6: You lied to Sarita Nupani. [00:20:55] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:20:56] Speaker 4: You lied to Officer Pellet. [00:21:00] Mr. Bott: I don't remember that. [00:21:02] Speaker 4: When you finally decided to make your fake call for the fine Manta on August, on that Sunday, Monday, August 5th. [00:21:13] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:21:13] Speaker 4: You finally decided to report her body missing. [00:21:16] Speaker 6: Yes. [00:21:21] Speaker 4: The officer that responded, you lied to him, too. [00:21:26] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:21:26] Speaker 4: The two officers that came for the health and safety check, you lied to them. Yes. You lied to Detective Claudia Ventura. [00:21:45] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:21:46] Speaker 4: You lied to Manta's friend who lives in New York, Sunita Bhandari. [00:21:55] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:21:56] Speaker 4: You lied to Sachi Manali, that professional journalist who recorded your interview for the whole Nepali community. [00:22:05] Speaker 6: I lied to Sachi Manali, that professional journalist who recorded his interview for the whole world. [00:22:15] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:22:15] Speaker 4: So the whole world now knows you're a liar in the United States, Nepal, and in this courtroom. [00:22:22] Speaker 6: I don't know that. [00:22:30] Speaker 4: Let's think about it. Did you talk to Sachi Manali? [00:22:36] Mr. Bott: Yes. Yes. [00:22:37] Speaker 4: And she broadcasted your interview to the entire country of Nepal? [00:22:46] Mr. Bott: I don't know. [00:22:48] Speaker 4: When you talked to Sachi Manali, who did you think you were talking to? [00:22:51] Speaker 6: Sachi Manali. At that time? [00:22:55] Speaker 4: At any time. [00:22:57] Mr. Bott: I talked only one time. [00:23:00] Speaker 4: And she was broadcasting your lies live, correct? This was a live interview. [00:23:15] Speaker 6: I'll move on. [00:23:19] Speaker 4: You lied to Sachi, correct? [00:23:22] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:23:29] Speaker 4: You also lied to Nadia Navarro. [00:23:35] Mr. Bott: I don't remember to speak to her at all. [00:23:42] Speaker 4: Didn't you try to talk to Nadia at your baby's first birthday? You wanted to tell her something? [00:23:56] Mr. Bott: I don't remember that. [00:23:59] Speaker 4: You remember her saying that you tried to talk to her, but she did not feel comfortable with you? She didn't want to talk to you? Do you remember that? [00:24:16] Mr. Bott: I remember only at this courtroom. That's what she said. Yes. [00:24:20] Speaker 4: Right. Do you think she was lying when she testified in this courtroom? [00:24:27] Mr. Bott: I don't know about her, but I don't remember that day I want to talk to her or not. I don't remember that. [00:24:34] Speaker 4: You lied to Amanda, your babysitter, correct? You just didn't tell her the truth about what you did to your wife, correct? You held back that fact, right? [00:25:22] Mr. Bott: I do not remember to talk to Amanda about anything other than taking care of the baby. I don't remember. I don't think I just spoke on a message. That's all. [00:25:35] Speaker 4: But you also came and picked up from her apartment. Yes. Do you remember walking inside of her apartment and looking out the window? [00:25:46] Mr. Bott: I went inside with taking my shoes off, but not outside the window. I was looking at the place. [00:26:01] Speaker 4: So when Amanda said that she sees you acting weird inside of her apartment looking out the window, you're saying that didn't happen. [00:26:09] Mr. Bott: That might be happened, but I'm not saying that did not happen. But like, I did not do that, like, looking at the window or something. But I went there. Maybe she saw I'm behaving weird, but like, I don't remember that. [00:26:21] Speaker 4: You do or you don't remember acting weird when you went into her apartment? [00:26:24] Mr. Bott: I don't remember if she saw me that, but like, I don't believe I did that. But I don't remember. If I did that, I don't remember. [00:26:31] Speaker 4: And you certainly heard her say that, right? [00:26:33] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:26:34] Speaker 4: And she has no motive to lie, correct? [00:26:36] Mr. Bott: I don't know that. [00:26:37] Speaker 4: She has no interest in the outcome of this trial, correct? [00:26:44] Speaker 6: I don't know. [00:26:48] Speaker 4: You have an interest in the outcome of this trial, correct? [00:26:56] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:26:57] Speaker 4: You have a lot on the line. Would you agree with me on that? You, sir, have a lot on the line right now. [00:27:09] Speaker 6: You could go to prison if the jury finds you guilty, correct? Correct. So you have to convince 12 people that you didn't do this, right? [00:27:29] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:27:30] Speaker ?: Yes. [00:27:30] Speaker 4: Your friend, Ashish Sangrola, you lied to him as well, correct? [00:27:45] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:27:47] Speaker 4: Krishna Joshi, you lied to him as well? [00:27:53] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:27:54] Speaker 4: Deepo Oli, you lied to her? [00:27:56] Mr. Bott: I don't remember to talk to her at all. [00:27:59] Speaker 4: How about your neighbors that live around your house, around Heather Court? You lied to every single one of them, correct? [00:28:05] Mr. Bott: I don't remember talking to them. [00:28:08] Speaker 4: You heard them say that they tried talking to you, right? [00:28:12] Mr. Bott: But I don't remember. [00:28:14] Speaker 4: You don't remember? [00:28:15] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:28:16] Speaker 4: Do you think they were lying, though? [00:28:18] Mr. Bott: I don't think that way. [00:28:20] Speaker 4: You think they were telling the truth? [00:28:21] Mr. Bott: I never say that. [00:28:22] Speaker 4: Here's a question for you. Do you think anybody from the Commonwealth's witnesses has lied against you? [00:28:29] Speaker 6: Do you think any of our witnesses have lied against you in court? [00:28:47] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:28:48] Speaker 4: Who? [00:28:54] Mr. Bott: There are four or five. [00:28:55] Speaker 4: Tell me one. [00:28:58] Mr. Bott: The police officer. [00:29:00] Speaker 4: Which one? [00:29:01] Mr. Bott: I don't recall the name. [00:29:02] Speaker 4: What did he look like? [00:29:03] Mr. Bott: He came here for who went to my home on the day of 14 February of 2024. [00:29:15] Speaker 4: For that domestic disturbance? [00:29:19] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:29:19] Speaker 4: Do you think that officer lied in court? [00:29:22] Mr. Bott: It's not a lie, but it's not true. [00:29:25] Speaker 4: Well, which is it, sir? [00:29:29] Mr. Bott: He said, like, I went to down, I talked to him. I never talked to any, like, any of the police. [00:29:36] Speaker 4: So other than this little piece, that you didn't talk to this cop, everybody else has told the truth? [00:29:43] Mr. Bott: A few more. [00:29:44] Speaker 4: Let's have another. Who else lied in this court on your name? [00:29:49] Mr. Bott: Sarita Nupani. [00:29:51] Speaker 4: Sarita Nupani. [00:29:52] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:29:53] Speaker 4: Mabta's friend. The woman who got Mabta a phone? The woman who was getting her out of your house? The woman that gave Mabta safe space to live while you two worked out your marital stripes? That's who lied? [00:30:14] Speaker 5: Yes. [00:30:19] Speaker 4: What's her motive to lie? I don't know. But what part of her testimony was a lie? [00:30:30] Mr. Bott: There are a few. [00:30:32] Speaker 4: I'll take one. [00:30:36] Mr. Bott: For example, she said, like, she, Mabta was there for many days, and then I go and drop the... You know, like, I gave it to her. Nobody was there. But, like, we were going to New Jersey at that time. Mabta, my both parents were on the car. But she said, like, you know, I just go over there, drop, stuff like that. [00:31:03] Speaker 4: Anything else? [00:31:06] Mr. Bott: I don't recall everything right now, yes. When, like, she was here, I recall some of those, yes. [00:31:13] Speaker 4: But it just escapes your memory now what she lied about you in court. [00:31:18] Speaker 5: You also lied to Mandira. [00:31:30] Mr. Bott: Some of them, yes. [00:31:32] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:31:42] Speaker 4: You also lied to Mandira. [00:31:46] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:31:47] Speaker 4: And that's your friend. [00:31:51] Mr. Bott: Sister type of friend. [00:31:52] Speaker 4: Yeah. She knew you before you were making big money, right? [00:31:59] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:32:02] Speaker 4: Give me one of the many lies you told her. Which one did you say to Mandira? [00:32:20] Mr. Bott: I don't know where is Mabta. [00:32:27] Speaker 4: You tried to pass Baby Nima to Mandira, correct? [00:32:38] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:32:40] Speaker 4: You would rather go to Mandira than go to the Koffle family. [00:32:54] Mr. Bott: Not that way. [00:32:56] Speaker 4: Didn't you say to Mandira that if she doesn't take the baby you're going to put Nima in foster care? [00:33:13] Mr. Bott: I do not recall that at all. Before they're coming I told Mandira to take care of the baby, yes. [00:33:20] Speaker 4: And she told you she couldn't, right? [00:33:24] Mr. Bott: I don't recall that. She take the baby, she take care of the baby. [00:33:27] Speaker 4: Sir, this was a week ago, at most a week ago. You don't remember her saying this in court? [00:33:33] Mr. Bott: Yes, she said that. [00:33:34] Speaker 4: Okay, so she said in court, just to be clear, that you were going to give the baby to her or the baby goes to foster care. [00:33:47] Mr. Bott: She said that she said that? She said that. I do not recall any way I said that and then I make all the paperwork to give my daughter to my in-laws' parents. I did all the paperwork. [00:33:58] Speaker 4: You made the paperwork to give to who? [00:34:02] Mr. Bott: Gita Koffle and Mahesh Koffle jointly. [00:34:06] Speaker 4: Wasn't there litigation? Sorry, let me step that back. giving your daughter to foster care is not how you would treat this goddess in your life, is it? [00:34:35] Speaker 5: You said [00:34:47] Speaker 4: was like a god in your life, a goddess, right? [00:34:55] Mr. Bott: In every Hindu culture, every girl daughter are, yes. [00:34:59] Speaker 4: Every grown daughter is like a god or a goddess? [00:35:02] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:35:05] Speaker 5: Was it Mamta a goddess also? [00:35:13] Mr. Bott: Lakshmi, yes. [00:35:15] Speaker 4: Lakshmi. No, no, no, no. Not Lakshmi. Mamta was a goddess. [00:35:24] Mr. Bott: Yes. [00:35:25] Speaker 4: Yes. That was their goddess, right? [00:35:29] Mr. Bott: Not only theirs. [00:35:32] Speaker 4: The community. Mamta was a goddess [00:35:34] Speaker 5: to everyone she was love right yes that's not how you treated her yes like trash garbage that's how you treated her right yes are you ashamed of yourself [00:36:13] Speaker 4: a lot that's why you were looking up the words disgrace in your google searches [00:36:20] Speaker 5: google search my disgrace when you would have solved the program as well that's what that's about [00:36:27] Speaker 4: i don't recall that it's in the record sir you could look at it it might be you said it might [00:36:35] Mr. Bott: be i don't recall like me to show it to you right now i'm not saying that but i don't remember that i searched a lot of stuff in google but i don't remember you looked up a lot of stuff in google [00:36:46] Speaker 4: let's talk about that you somehow remember making 14 000 searches on google i don't remember you just said it you just testified he needs to be able to answer i should slow it down a little bit sorry judge it's okay you said sir that you made 14 000 searches on google you said that this afternoon yes okay some you recall some you do not is that fair to say [00:37:28] Mr. Bott: majority of i do not recall [00:37:39] Speaker 4: i'm summarizing but i could pull the exact verbiage you type and here's another question let's clear this up the google searches nobody hacked into your phone correct these are all searches you did yes your white house military account with your top secret clearance nobody hacked into those nobody hacked into your account and made those searches either right [00:38:14] Speaker 5: you did them yes [00:38:31] Speaker 4: how long i'm not going to pull the record i'm going to go off what i heard you say how long wait to remarry after spouse dies right that's the search you did was it on your phone was it on your top secret clearance white house military account [00:39:03] Mr. Bott: i don't recall it's a work phone or lab tablet or uh work phone or work computer i don't recall that okay they have two devices they have two devices work tablet phone or what else more keep keep keep speaking sir that's all [00:39:25] Speaker 4: so tell me if this refreshes your memory april 12 2024 what happened debt of died spouse the search you did correct [00:39:46] Speaker 1: say it again the interpreter needs you to read sorry i'll say it slow [00:39:50] Speaker 4: april 12 20 24. this is on your laptop laptop laptop you type these words what happened debt of died spouse [00:40:05] Speaker 5: the loan you mean the loan the what sorry interpreter loan loan loan no i'm just asking you [00:40:19] Speaker 4: these are the words you put into your laptop right your laptop yes that was in april before that in march march march 21st you typed into your cell phone what happened if spouse disappears in divorce in virginia [00:40:47] Speaker 5: in virginia [00:40:56] Speaker 4: those searches are about mata correct [00:40:59] Mr. Bott: not necessarily [00:41:01] Speaker 4: explain that not necessarily what does that mean [00:41:08] Mr. Bott: i search a lot of stuff [00:41:10] Speaker 4: i'm not concerned about the other 14 000 searches i'm focused on these two those two searches in march and in april spouse disappearing debt disappearing when spouse dies [00:41:32] Mr. Bott: those are about mamta correct i don't recall yeah i if i search for month that that's not [00:41:39] Speaker 4: right i didn't understand your answer say it again i want to hear the answer what did you say you just said something what did you say [00:41:52] Mr. Bott: everything not related to the month that's what i said [00:41:54] Speaker 4: okay okay so what you're saying these two searches are not related to mopta at all [00:42:06] Speaker 5: can you read that two searches that i did can i approach judge [00:42:16] Speaker 2: can we can we reflect what it is [00:42:20] Speaker ?: i don't know what what what is the exhibit is it something else [00:42:25] Speaker 4: it's not it's an exhibit it's not okay okay okay can you read this right here yes can you read it out loud what happened if uh read it to the microphone [00:42:42] Speaker 2: i'm sorry the jury can't hear a little close to my client in terms of [00:42:46] Speaker 4: read it to the microphone [00:42:49] Mr. Bott: what happened if your spouse disappears in divorce in virginia [00:42:52] Speaker 4: that was on what date 321 2024 read the one on march 12th what did you type on that date [00:43:02] Mr. Bott: what happened depth of died spouse again these are your searches correct yes [00:43:17] Speaker ?: you [00:43:42] Speaker 4: we're going to transition and talk about the last day [00:43:46] Speaker 5: that you saw a month alive [00:43:57] Speaker 4: you told us that was on july 29 2024 correct oh yes day of the week was that it's a monday it's a monday would you agree with me it was a monday i'm not sure i cannot recall okay but you do recall the actual date though july 29 [00:44:28] Mr. Bott: yes [00:44:32] Speaker 4: you said you went to bed somewhere around seven eight o'clock at night right yes you said mafta was in the kitchen right yes what was she doing you mean me or mom yeah what was mapta doing in the kitchen some kitchen work some kitchen work i don't know what kitchen work is either so you tell us what was she doing in the kitchen wiping cooking cleaning something i don't recall maybe cleaning or wiping i [00:45:17] Mr. Bott: don't recall like that exactly working on the kitchen that's what i that's what i recall she made [00:45:22] Speaker 4: she made you food that night though right [00:45:27] Mr. Bott: i did not eat those food you didn't eat the food why not at that time usually i do not i don't what does that mean i do not eat means i do not eat [00:45:46] Speaker 4: i'm trying to understand you yes did mom to cook food for you that night no i don't know that because [00:45:53] Mr. Bott: because i eat some something somewhere i eat myself okay so you ate food somewhere else i don't recall but usually at that time i make my food i don't want usually sir i want if you recall [00:46:07] Speaker 4: the date let's talk about the date monday july 29th you said you went to bed at seven or eight o'clock prior to going to bed did you have a meal with mamta no okay you said you saw mopta cleaning in the kitchen though [00:46:33] Mr. Bott: i'm not saying 100 percent cleaning something working in the kitchen yes [00:46:41] Speaker 4: you testified you woke up at about four o'clock in the morning [00:46:47] Mr. Bott: around four o'clock yes so now we're on the next day [00:46:54] Speaker 4: tuesday july 30th right [00:47:00] Mr. Bott: yes okay [00:47:08] Speaker 4: did you wake up before let me ask it again you testified that you woke up at 4 a.m i'm clarifying you told us that you woke up on july 30th at around 4 a.m right that's what you said today [00:47:36] Mr. Bott: yes [00:47:39] Speaker 4: but didn't you wake up before 4 a.m yes that's when you were looking up the anatomy of the human brain right i don't remember that your attorney asked you isn't this what you searched at midnight and you [00:48:01] Speaker 2: said yes objection i don't think that was the answer [00:48:08] Speaker 1: i don't recall that's what i think i'm looking up my notes to um see what the answer was and i'm not sure that i have it [00:48:28] Speaker 4: i can move past it judge okay okay you also looked up a chicken farm near me right usually i do i didn't ask usually i only want to know about the day that you found mom today [00:48:54] Mr. Bott: i don't recall exactly i searched on that day or not [00:48:58] Speaker 4: but if it's in your google searches you did it correct yes okay but i don't recall i did it well we're going to come to this you've been to chicken farms before though right yes they smell pretty bad don't they not necessarily do they smell good to you it depends where you're gonna go a chicken farm what part of chicken farm you're gonna go where the chickens are the chicken farm smells pretty bad when you go up near the chickens right yes maybe chickens pretty much eat anything right [00:49:44] Mr. Bott: i don't know that they usually eat the grains i don't know that [00:49:50] Speaker 4: the smell is pretty strong at a chicken farm it's a good place to hide a decomposing body right i don't know that never crossed your mind never just a random search at midnight in your home [00:50:18] Mr. Bott: i thought you say morning but like usually i search usually i buy chicken from chicken farm i never buy chicken from grocery stores [00:50:25] Speaker 4: got it so you were thinking about buying chickens after you found your wife dead on the floor that was on your mind [00:50:41] Mr. Bott: no i don't believe so [00:50:51] Speaker 4: okay we're back to 4 a.m you wake up walk us through what you saw and what you did [00:51:05] Speaker 5: when i enter to the room main room main room [00:51:19] Mr. Bott: uh bathroom jana go to the bathroom [00:51:24] Speaker 5: go to the bathroom [00:51:28] Mr. Bott: me right i want to correct that i say i want to pause i want to pause [00:51:44] Speaker 1: i'm sorry that was an important correction he said he wants to correct it he said left [00:51:48] Speaker 5: i said debris so interpretor correct that that's right not on the left okay again i want to correct that's the left debris they have a they stand by his interpretation because interpreters say [00:52:02] Speaker 1: okay i need to i need you to not argue i know the interpreter has interpreted that to be right the defendant has been saying that he means left he speaks both languages that's what the record should reflect is that he's trying to say to his left [00:52:21] Speaker 4: now if i recall what you've told the police you told the police the baby sleeps with you when manta has to work right [00:52:40] Mr. Bott: yes [00:52:45] Speaker 4: but on monday july 29th into tuesday july 30th manta did not have to work right [00:52:55] Mr. Bott: yes [00:52:58] Speaker 4: so why is the baby with you and not with manta [00:53:03] Mr. Bott: baby usually most of the time sleep with me even we both are same place she sleep on the chest [00:53:10] Speaker 4: on top of chest right that's if you put the infant on your chest what about the baby sleeping on her mother [00:53:17] Mr. Bott: usually i was the one making sleep not usually most of the time that's not what you told the police [00:53:26] Speaker 4: right similar yes no you told the police something different they did not ask usually but usually i was the making sleep baby every day sir isn't it true your words to the police was that when mom that has to work yes yes with you and vice versa yes when you have to work the baby sleeps with manta yes so the baby should have been with manta [00:54:03] Mr. Bott: not necessarily i wasn't working next day tell us why you weren't working the next day [00:54:12] Speaker 4: i had off you took fml fmla family medical leave act you took time off of your job correct [00:54:27] Mr. Bott: i don't know what leave is that it's a baby uh paternity leave that's all i know [00:54:35] Speaker 4: god you took a baby leave from your job yes yes and you worked at gd it right yes in your house get us there if you walk up the stairs and you turn to the to the left that's the master bedroom right correct cool yes okay and then to the right of the stairs is two other bedrooms right yes where were you sleeping according to you with mock with on this night [00:55:29] Mr. Bott: to the left to the right right eastern room okay [00:55:38] Speaker 4: so walk up the stairs to the right is your room right east down the hall is where manta would sleep right yes so when you wake up at four o'clock in the morning you actually walk past a bathroom before you get to the master bedroom according to you right yes why did you walk past the first available bathroom we never use that bathroom we never have any [00:56:10] Mr. Bott: toiletry on that bathroom we don't use that that's only mom and dad used used to use but mom and dad were not in your house in july we don't use that no toiletries no nothing on that bathroom [00:56:29] Speaker 4: so you wake up four o'clock in the morning where's the baby by the way when you wake up with me [00:56:35] Mr. Bott: where with me holding her [00:56:40] Speaker 4: no no no so when you wake up at 4 a.m where is the baby lying on the room on the room where i was on the bed yes not on the floor on the floor yes so not the bed on the floor yes you testified earlier was on the bed [00:57:05] Mr. Bott: was that just a mistake or was that a lie not a mistake not a lie i we both usually like i do not recall every detail on that time but usually like we sleep on the floor yes [00:57:20] Speaker 4: this should be a pretty significant day in your life correct finding your wife dead on the floor yes details matter sir would you agree with me on that yes okay let's move past what you may have [00:57:36] Mr. Bott: misspoken about earlier so when you get up it's on the floor it's a not open floor we put something [00:57:47] Speaker 4: thin clothes yes a little cushion for her to lay on yes yeah blanket maybe a pillow something like something comfortable for her that's correct i'm with you on this so you get up you now go into the master bedroom the lights are off in the master bedroom main lights off mate so it's dark main lights off dim lights on dim lights are on so when you first walk into the room what do you see [00:58:24] Mr. Bott: you walk into your master bedroom no wake or what walk oh yes walk into the main bedroom [00:58:52] Speaker 4: you have not moved the bed yet right the bed is the furthest away from the door to walk into your bed bedroom i'll i'll explain again when you walk into your bedroom the bed is on the opposite wall right yes you're testifying that manta is lying at the foot of the bed right yes so when you first walked in you you didn't see her laying there i did not pay attention you just saw a huge body on the floor bleeding vomiting and didn't pay any attention to it it was not on the way it was on the side not on my way it's in your eyesight right on the side to the side of your eye you couldn't see your dead wife on the ground [00:59:45] Mr. Bott: yes