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LEMON DROP - Disaster Debut! Trump's New Press Secretary Gets Off To A Brutal Start

Don Lemon October 15, 2026 24m 3,835 words
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"The latest news this morning came from the press secretary, okay? The original one that you played earlier, Noel, her announcing Kimberly Guilfoyle. I wanna play that now, because this is the first thing that she announced as press secretary. Here it is. First of all, on Kimberly Guilfoyle, the..."

[0:00] The latest news this morning [0:02] came from the press secretary, okay? [0:05] The original one that you played earlier, Noel, [0:08] her announcing Kimberly Guilfoyle. [0:10] I wanna play that now, [0:11] because this is the first thing that she announced [0:14] as press secretary. [0:15] Here it is. [0:16] First of all, on Kimberly Guilfoyle, [0:18] the Daily Mail has been reporting on her since last year. [0:21] The president said yesterday to reporters [0:23] that he is considering firing her. [0:25] Do you know a timeline for that? [0:27] And also, potentially, who could be on the shortlist [0:30] to replace her if he does? [0:32] We have asked Ambassador Guilfoyle to resign. [0:36] She has been a wonderful asset to the team [0:38] and we wish her well. [0:41] That is the shadiest corporate communications. [0:52] If you know someone who is head of communications [0:55] or who works at communications at a company, [0:57] that is the thing. [0:58] We wish them the best [0:59] and we thank them for their contributions. [1:01] And that is what they're saying to Kimberly. [1:02] Not even saying, hey, look, [1:04] it was tough to get, you know, [1:06] we loved working with her [1:08] and this was a tough decision for us, whatever. [1:11] Look, and I've been a party to that. [1:12] I know how that is. [1:15] But Kimberly Guilfoyle, here's the thing. [1:16] Kimberly Guilfoyle was accused of this thing, [1:19] asking someone, all right, fine. [1:20] She was doing that behind the scenes. [1:22] Was she abusing her job or her position as ambassador? [1:25] That's a whole other story. [1:27] But I don't understand why they are not, [1:31] why they are focusing on Kimberly Guilfoyle. [1:32] And I do believe that it is a distraction. [1:34] They are using this Kimberly Guilfoyle thing [1:36] as a distraction for people to stop focusing on the grift [1:39] that's happening with the Trump family, [1:41] the grift that's happening with Donald Trump, [1:44] the grift and the malfeasance [1:47] that is reportedly happening with Ken Paxton in Texas. [1:52] I think they're focusing on her [1:53] because it is a good distraction [1:55] and you don't have to talk about that [1:56] before the midterm elections. [1:58] They don't need, pardon me for hitting the mic. [1:59] I keep hitting it. [2:00] They don't need Kimberly Guilfoyle anymore. [2:05] They can find a replacement for her, [2:07] but they do need Ken Paxton. [2:08] They do need Texas. [2:10] So whatever they can do to keep the media off of that, [2:12] that's what they will do. [2:14] And so this new, okay. [2:18] So this is a former Trump press aid is saying, [2:21] I don't know why they put her out there on day two [2:24] with so little preparation. [2:26] I think she's going to be a train wreck. [2:29] Don. [2:30] Yes. [2:31] We have a much extended clip [2:35] of how disastrous she was during the press briefing. [2:39] Do you want to listen to it? [2:40] Yes, I was getting to that. [2:41] Thank you very much, Noel. [2:43] So we're going to get to that. [2:44] So anyway, getting behind the podium is tough, [2:47] but she got off to the wrong foot. [2:49] She needs to get much better, fast. [2:51] Otherwise she'll break Scaramucci's record. [2:54] That's what the White House official is saying [2:56] about Katie Zachariah or Katie Zakaria, [3:00] because I think it's spelled the same or very similar. [3:04] But this is her behind the podium as Noel. [3:07] Noel is the senior producer of this program [3:10] as what Noel was saying. [3:12] Here it is, roll it Noel. [3:13] Good morning. [3:15] Good morning. [3:18] I am so honored to work for President Trump [3:22] and the American people [3:24] as the new White House press secretary. [3:28] I want to thank President Trump for his trust [3:32] that he has placed in me. [3:35] I have wanted to work for him for a very long time. [3:41] I'm looking forward to working with each of you as well, [3:45] especially as we are in the middle of the midterm blitz [3:49] with energy and excitement never seen before [3:53] in the history of midterms thanks to President Trump. [3:56] Attendance is at record highs as enthusiastic, [4:00] hardworking Americans are lining up and packing arenas [4:04] to support President Trump and Republicans. [4:10] It's not hard to see why. [4:12] We had a historic one-day war, [4:15] and now we have a booming economy [4:17] and a great relationship with Venezuela [4:22] to officially be part of this incredible journey together. [4:26] And with that, I will take your questions here [4:31] in our new media scene. [4:32] I want to ask you a policy question. [4:34] Has the U.S. stopped sharing intel with Ukraine? [4:38] I'll have to get back to you on that. [4:40] I have two questions for you if you can. [4:44] First of all, on Kimberly Guilfoyle, [4:45] the Daily Mail has been reporting on her since last year. [4:48] The President said yesterday to reporters [4:50] that he is considering firing her. [4:53] Do you know a timeline for that? [4:54] And also potentially who could be on the short list [4:57] to replace her if he does? [4:59] We have asked Ambassador Guilfoyle to resign. [5:03] She has been a wonderful asset to the team, [5:05] and we wish her well. [5:08] Okay, the idea of not spending evenings with my kids [5:11] is completely unacceptable. [5:14] So my president, or excuse me, my husband. [5:16] That's a good one. [5:19] My husband is out here. [5:21] Bless him, it's a lot. [5:23] And we will be moving out here. [5:25] And my work, though my work will be demanding, [5:27] they will always be a priority. [5:29] And I, President Trump is the most family-friendly [5:32] president we've ever had. [5:34] He has hired more women with families. [5:36] And the fact that he knew I had four kids [5:38] and he knew that this job would be demanding [5:40] and still place his trust in me [5:42] shows that I know I'm capable of being able to step up to that. [5:46] So thank you for that question. [5:47] In fact, I am going to end it because President Trump [5:50] is heading out to Marine One for our historic trip to Alaska. [5:54] And we can ask him all of the questions out there. [5:58] So thank you so much. [5:59] Will you come back on Friday? [6:00] Will you go straight? [6:03] Oh, wow. [6:11] Wow, wow, wow. [6:15] Huh. [6:20] I am texting with someone, a source, [6:22] who is giving me information right now as we speak, [6:32] saying that she was basically a train wreck. [6:35] And they don't understand why they put her out there. [6:41] I wonder how long she's going to be out there. [6:43] If you saw that, I mean, what did you guys think [6:44] of that performance right there? [6:47] What did you think of that performance? [6:48] Because I don't really know what to say, [6:58] as my source is texting me now. [7:01] I don't really know what to say about it, [7:04] except for what is being reported. [7:07] And that is that they're saying, someone said, [7:13] we thought we'd miss Sean Spicer. [7:16] We just keep going down that it is that bad. [7:23] Well, it's purely a political speech. [7:25] She is the official White House press secretary. [7:26] She's not there to talk about campaign rallies [7:29] and not to talk about the campaign [7:30] and to talk about her favorite issue. [7:33] That's what Sean Maloney, [7:34] who is a former representative said. [7:38] There's an important difference, which is, [7:39] this is from John Avalon, my former colleague at CNN, [7:43] said there's a difference in what she's going to have [7:45] to answer presumably tough questions on the fly. [7:47] And she is reading her remarks right now quite extensively. [7:52] And they're all sycophantic, [7:55] you know, kind of just, you know, [7:56] propaganda and fluffing. [8:03] Yeah, yeah, let's see. [8:10] I'm going to see if I can get John Avalon to pop on [8:12] to talk about this in my source as well, [8:16] besides John Avalon. [8:17] Let's see, this is quote from the White House official [8:25] just now following Katie Zakaria's first press briefing. [8:30] Getting behind the podium is tough, [8:32] but she got off on the wrong foot. [8:34] She needs to get much better, faster, [8:36] otherwise she'll break Scaramucci's record. [8:42] I did not expect her to be that bad. [8:46] I really didn't. [8:48] Hello, John Avalon, my former colleague. [8:50] What were you, the editor-in-chief of the Daily Beast, [8:53] the chief political- [8:55] I've been for many years. [8:56] How you doing, my man? [8:57] I'm doing okay. [8:59] So, look, you're an expert on these things. [9:02] What did you think of Katie Zakaria's performance [9:05] this morning? [9:09] John Avalon, can you hear me? [9:11] Yeah, I can hear you now. [9:12] You got me? [9:13] Yeah, what did you think of her performance this morning? [9:16] This ain't gonna end well. [9:19] This, it was a pretty face-planting debut. [9:23] I was doing the Steph Ruhl show over at MSNOW live [9:27] with Basil Sunke and Sean Patrick Maloney. [9:31] I was struck by two things. [9:33] One, you know, in 16 minutes, she took around a minute of real questions. [9:39] And the most important of them about whether the U.S. is still sharing intelligence with Ukraine, [9:43] she didn't have an answer. [9:45] She didn't know. [9:46] So, you know, she's breaking the Hatch Act right out of the gate. [9:50] She's doing the propagandistic stuff we all expect, which is not the job of the press secretary. [9:55] You know, she had a little bit of news with Kim Gilfoyle, but she's doing everything off notes. [10:01] And she may look the part to Donald Trump, but she's got to be able to have the content to speak off the cuff, [10:08] which is something that Caroline Leavitt could do. [10:10] And she is not shown in that first debut with three questions from Breitbart, Fox News and Daily Mail. [10:17] She couldn't seem to do that. [10:19] So this is going to be a rocky road, putting aside the whole freedom of the press and telling the truth thing. [10:24] As you were talking about that, others were saying that they think she's going to be she's going to have a it's going to be a scary moochie. [10:31] Or will it be a new Zachariah is going to be the new thing for shortest tenure as a press secretary? [10:39] First of all, I think that gives scary moochie a bad name. [10:43] And I say that as someone who I think helped coin that phrase as a unit of measurement back in my reality check in CNN. [10:50] You know, she was the communications director, but what's notable and already there's been some leaking from inside the White House that was not flattering to her. [11:00] And I think you just read that is that she does not she doesn't come from in the Trump orbit and over this administration, which information is really shared by a handful of folks. [11:11] So it's going to make it even more difficult for her to do the job and why Donald Trump picked her. [11:19] I think clearly there's some knives out for her, but it's really just can you talk substantively off the cuff? [11:25] And today, you know, the Ouija board would say signs point to know. [11:29] Do you think they've sent her out there and said, look, if you if you if you're cooking and it's great, keep going. [11:37] But if you're not feeling comfortable, end it. [11:42] Well, she had she only answered three questions, all from friendly outlets. Right. [11:47] And and and, you know, typical press secretaries and I think Peter Alexander had this data. [11:52] I have done, you know, 15, 20 questions in their opening presser. [11:57] And she did not do that. I got to go. [12:01] And she made a point of saying that after, you know, a 10 minute soliloquy about the loyalty to, you know, King Donald, [12:08] she she just fled and said Trump's his own best spokesperson. [12:13] That's literally the job. And you got to have answers when it comes to stuff. [12:17] We're a world, a country at war, a world where there's a lot of urgent issues. [12:22] And you got to be able to answer things like, are we sharing intelligence to Ukraine? [12:27] And she didn't say yes or no. She said, essentially, I don't know. [12:31] And there was a real dependence on the script. [12:34] And those are good signs for this job. [12:37] Yeah. John Ablon. John Ablon is a friend. [12:40] So is his wife, Margaret Hoover, a former editor in chief of The Daily Beast, a senior political correspondent over at the CNN as well. [12:49] And also a political candidate in my hometown in Suffolk County. [12:55] That's right. So a man of many, many different talents. [12:58] We appreciate you. Look, we love John. Here's how we do it. We love it. [13:02] We have we interview people in cars. We interview people on airplanes. We have people out on the streets. [13:07] It's kind of amazing that we can do this. You know what I mean? [13:09] Remember the old days when it took to do a live shot? [13:12] Oh, good God. Yeah. You had to get a sat link and you had a window. [13:16] And yeah. So all is good, my man. I'm happy to come on any time. [13:19] I got a new book coming out in March, too. We'll talk about that. [13:22] March 2nd? March of next year. [13:25] Theodore Roosevelt's Guide to Life. You know, I've been banging away with this. [13:29] That's yeah, that's my birthday month. So we'll celebrate. Thank you, John Avalon. [13:32] All right, man. Take care. [13:34] Thank you. Thank you. [13:35] So look, there we go. [13:37] And again, we like to get it as it is happening. [13:41] So now you are informed, everybody. [13:43] So we'll see. [13:44] What do you guys think is going to happen with this new press secretary? [13:46] Because it is I can't tell you how bad that is. [13:51] So people ask me how I stay so lean. [13:53] And now because those weight loss shots ads are everywhere, [13:57] it feels like everybody assumes that you have to be on what people call the shot. [14:01] If you want to lose weight. [14:02] Well, you don't. [14:04] Not everybody wants a weekly injection. [14:06] And some people are looking for another option. [14:08] That's where lean comes in. 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[14:57] I am so honored to work for President Trump and the American people as the new White House [15:07] press secretary. [15:09] I want to thank President Trump for his trust that he has placed in me. [15:16] I have wanted to work for him for a very long time. [15:21] I'm looking forward to working with each of you as well, especially as we are in the middle [15:27] of the midterm blitz with energy and excitement never seen before in the history of midterms [15:35] thanks to President Trump. [15:38] Attendance is at record highs as enthusiastic, hardworking Americans are lining up and packing [15:44] arenas to support President Trump and Republicans. [15:51] It's not hard to see why we had a historic one day war and now we are have a booming economy [15:58] and a great relationship with Venezuela to officially be part of this incredible journey [16:05] together. [16:07] And with that, I will take your questions here in our new media scene. [16:13] I want to ask you a policy question. [16:15] Has the U.S. stopped sharing intel with Ukraine? [16:19] I'll have to get back to you on that. [16:21] I have two questions for you if I can. [16:24] First of all, on Kimberly Guilfoyle, the Daily Mail has been reporting on her since last [16:29] year. [16:30] The president said yesterday to reporters that he is considering firing her. [16:34] Do you know a timeline for that and also potentially who could be on the shortlist to replace her [16:39] if he does? [16:40] We have asked Ambassador Guilfoyle to resign. [16:44] She has been a wonderful asset to the team and we wish her well. [16:47] Okay. [16:49] The idea of not spending evenings with my kids is completely unacceptable. [16:54] So my president, excuse me, my husband, that's a good one. [17:00] My husband is out here and my work, though my work will be demanding, they will always [17:06] be a priority. [17:07] And I, President Trump is the most family friendly president we've ever had. [17:12] He has hired more women with families. [17:14] And the fact that he knew I had four kids and he knew that this job would be demanding [17:18] and still places trust in me shows that I know I'm capable of being able to step up [17:23] to that. [17:24] So thank you for that question. [17:25] In fact, I am going to end it because President Trump is heading out to Marine One for our [17:30] historic trip to Alaska. [17:33] And we can ask him all of the questions out there. [17:36] So thank you so much. [17:36] Did the president speak with Ambassador Guilfoyle? [17:41] To the question on Thursday, the president will be back on Thursday and that's what I will [17:47] answer. [17:48] I'll leave it there. [17:49] He will answer those questions out in Marine One. [17:53] I'm sorry. [18:17] Look at the faces of the reporters. [18:19] They were like, are you guys ready to put me on live now? [18:25] All right, let me just say this, okay? [18:27] The question up now is how did the new White House press secretary do? [18:31] She bombed. [18:32] She's a bullshit. [18:34] This is my point about, remember the first day or in the early stages of this administration [18:40] when they got up here and they talked about DEI and Pete Hexeth and all of those guys going [18:45] to talk about, we are, this is a new era that we're in. [18:48] It's going to be DEI and white people are doing the jobs and all that shit. [18:56] What does she do? [18:58] Is this, is this what they mean by, is she a DEI hire? [19:02] Is she a DEI candidate? [19:05] Their definition. [19:07] Because what it seems to me is that this is a sort, this is a white privileged candidate. [19:12] This is someone that Donald Trump hires because he likes the way that they look. [19:16] You know, she looks like, come on y'all, you know what she looks like. [19:21] Well, let's just put it this way. [19:24] She looks like a Fox News anchor or correspondent or whatever, right? [19:33] That's what she looks like. [19:34] And that's what he likes. [19:35] The blonde hair, all the makeup or whatever. [19:38] I'm not looking, I'm not mocking her appearance. [19:40] I'm just telling you what Donald Trump likes. [19:41] He likes people who he thinks look the part. [19:44] That's why he likes Pete Hexeth. [19:46] He thinks Pete Hexeth looks the part. [19:48] He wants the blonde hair, blue eye, lots of makeup, eyelashes, and hair extensions. [19:54] He loves that kind of thing. [19:56] Look at the press secretary before her. [19:58] Look at the other press secretary before her, Kayleigh McEnany. [20:03] He did have Sarah Huckabee Sanders, but I mean, that was the whole thing. [20:08] And that was, I mean, wow, they were brutal to her and she was gone. [20:12] However, now he's had, you know, uh, the three, the three K's, the KKK's, the Kayleigh. [20:20] Um, uh, what was the other one's name? [20:23] God, I can't even remember her name. [20:25] Katie and Caroline. [20:27] That's what he's got now. [20:30] It's, uh, she was, let's put it this way. [20:35] She was horrible. [20:36] So administration, Donald Trump, all you other people, stop talking about DEI. [20:40] Stop saying that, uh, minorities, especially black people are underqualified or not qualified, [20:47] that they are somehow DEI hires. [20:49] This woman is clearly out of her depth. [20:52] And let me tell you, I have experienced that in corporate media for such a long time. [20:57] You know what they do? [20:57] Let me tell you what they do. [20:58] They come in, they make way for these ladies or people who look like her. [21:07] Oh, we need that. [21:09] That's what that's, that is what happened with Kayleigh McEnany. [21:12] Kayleigh McEnany, CNN needed a blonde Republican who they thought was cute and they hire, but [21:20] they love to talk about black people being DEI. [21:22] DEI, I know that because I was there at the time that is, we need it. [21:25] And that person who helped to hire her is my former executive producer. [21:29] And I know they needed someone. [21:31] And she was an anti-Trumper. [21:32] And then she realized that, uh, being pro-Trump got her more clicks on the social media and got her more hits on the network. [21:39] So she became a Trumper. [21:44] And then when I was there too, they wanted me to train the junior anchor in a similar way. [21:54] So they make room for these people, but they try to pretend that the black people are not qualified, which is indeed not true. [22:06] And the proof of that is in the performance of this woman. [22:11] She's cute. [22:11] They love it. [22:12] Oh my God, she's pretty. [22:13] We like her. [22:14] She's blonde. [22:15] She's hot. [22:16] That's what's happening here. [22:18] She looks the part. [22:23] All the time. [22:24] If you're in, if you're in corporate media, if you're in television, you know this. [22:28] Tell me where I'm lying. [22:30] All the time. [22:32] You'll say, well, where does this one? [22:33] Lots of eyelashes, cute haircut, lots of makeup. [22:37] But where's the they are there? [22:43] Where's the experience? [22:44] Where's the resume? [22:46] Where's the years of moving up from market to market to market to market? [22:50] What happened to that if you want to talk about meritocracy and diversity, equity, and inclusion? [22:57] Why does that only apply to some people and not others? [23:01] I mean, I'm not telling you anything that you don't know, right? [23:05] Am I telling you anything that you do not know? [23:07] No. [23:24] That's what I would like to know. [23:27] And then now, also, speaking of DEI, Kimberly Guilfoyle. [23:33] On no planet was Kimberly Guilfoyle qualified to be an ambassador to any nation, to anything. [23:45] Maybe the ambassador to Botox, maybe the ambassador to lip filler, but ambassador to Greece? [23:57] And now they're just realizing that she's not qualified and they're saying, oh, she's gone and we wish her well. [24:05] You remember her from the convention. [24:07] The best is yet to come. [24:10] They should have known then. [24:12] Thanks for watching, everybody. [24:16] I appreciate you. [24:17] Make sure you like, subscribe, and turn on notifications so you don't miss anything. [24:21] We're live weekdays at 10 a.m. and 5 p.m. Eastern with new content at 2 p.m. Eastern, sometimes at 8 p.m. [24:27] So follow the Don Lemon Show wherever you are. [24:30] YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Twitch, Substack, Spotify, iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts. [24:34] We are everywhere. [24:36] And we're there every day. 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