About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of 1 Democrat vs 20 MAGA Republicans (ft. Isaiah Martin) — Surrounded from Jubilee, published April 7, 2026. The transcript contains 23,658 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"so you just made americans pay more for everything that comes from canada because they showed a commercial you didn't like that sounds like being a snowflake if you ask me they're posting bro you are i don't know if you're acting stupid or you're purposely just like misconstruing what i'm saying it"
[0:00] so you just made americans pay more for everything that comes from canada because they showed a
[0:05] commercial you didn't like that sounds like being a snowflake if you ask me they're posting bro you
[0:11] are i don't know if you're acting stupid or you're purposely just like misconstruing what i'm saying
[0:16] it did happen yeah we had funding for things that are outside of the country
[0:20] for transgender balls transgender plays transgender balls yes they exist
[0:25] of those people that are sitting in ice detention facilities right now how many do you think have
[0:32] been convicted of a violent crime well 100 because they're all illegal and i said convicted of a
[0:36] violent crime it doesn't matter it doesn't matter hi i'm isaiah martin i'm a former candidate for
[0:41] the united states congress and i'm here today surrounded by 20 mega republicans my first
[0:51] surrounding claim is that trump's mass deportation plan is making us less safe hey how's it going
[1:03] brother good to see you great to meet you it's interesting that you claim that because
[1:07] according to the dhs 70 of the people who have been deported so far have been criminals either
[1:13] caught in the act yes i'm surprised you're surprised you ran for congress and you don't know
[1:18] this that's what those numbers said that is 70 the other 30 are people who went through the entire
[1:22] immigration process and had some sort of deportation attainer so that is 700 700 700 000
[1:30] people were deported like that 1.9 million people self-deported so far that's all dhs data it's
[1:36] publicly available you can look it up on the internet you can look it up on the internet you
[1:38] look it up so i'm just how are you standing for criminals is that what you're doing right now of
[1:42] interior removal 70 of the people deported had literally have not been convicted criminals what
[1:46] are you talking about that's according to dhs that's according to dhs where are you getting
[1:50] your data from dhs what day uh this is like just recently last from up to october or mid-october of
[1:57] this year so we're going to need a fact check on this because i literally checked yesterday
[2:00] not convicted criminals 70 of the people deported are not convicted they were they were people so
[2:08] had either been convicted criminals no or they had said well i got a stalemate because now you're
[2:14] claiming something i'm claiming something from the same source so 70 of the people that have
[2:18] been deported under interior removals are not convicted criminals and that is a fact that's
[2:24] not a fact it literally is it's 70 i'm telling you i looked i think i think you got it upside down
[2:31] at the end of the day it is what's happening they literally publish the photos of everybody who is
[2:35] being supported so i didn't realize that they posted every single photo no they published the
[2:40] majority of them yeah
[2:41] hey but there's data this is yeah i mean you're you're hitting back you're saying they deported
[2:46] hundreds of thousands of people and they post pictures of every single they're not posting see
[2:50] this is you're what you're doing here is you're doing you're building like this false deflection
[2:55] around it i didn't say everybody i said they're posting photos of people who are being deported
[3:00] yes that means that they're deporting they're posting bro yeah i don't know if you're acting
[3:05] stupid or you're purposely just like misconstruing what i'm saying yeah but here's my argument
[3:11] under barack obama of those that were deported under interior removals 92 of them were convicted
[3:16] criminals of that 92 81 of them were considered tier one the worst of the worst per se i think
[3:22] that that is something that makes us a lot more safe than literally roaming around to go get
[3:27] grandmas and cvs that speak spanish or going to that construction that's that's an absolute job
[3:31] site that's an absolutely false narrative because that's actually that's just what the facts say
[3:35] i mean that's not what's happening you just see this is this is common with what the left does you
[3:40] guys just the left loves the left the left loves the right the left loves the right the left loves the
[3:42] facts no that's kind of how that goes that's again that's not what what you guys do at all
[3:47] what for anybody watching at home this is what they do they get a piece of data they fabricate
[3:51] a narrative around it and then they try to sell it to you as a truth when in fact this is not data
[3:58] so your data i mean you i came here this is trump's own website i came here i came here
[4:04] with a piece of data you completely rewrote it in real time no i gave you the fact you completely
[4:08] rewrote it i mean i'm surprised you ran for congress you're one of the most disingenuous
[4:14] honest people that i've ever met in my entire life i was literally taken aback first i was like
[4:18] how like i looked this up yesterday how is this guy sitting here lying so blatantly you should
[4:23] be ashamed no seriously dude and i can see it in your face no you know you know you literally just
[4:28] sat here and lied and you're like breaking down in real time i think i'm doing pretty good so incredibly
[4:34] so tell me why are you so in favor of criminals being in this country i just told you that 70
[4:39] of the people that trump is supporting literally are not convicted criminals for interior removals
[4:44] i don't understand what about this so he's just so you you really buy into that narrative that
[4:48] little grandma's you're walking around oh my god oh let's get grandma let's kick her out of
[4:52] literally what they're doing that's not what they're doing say say one one one case like that
[4:59] of what of one case of the little grandma standing at the taco stand getting deported you what i
[5:06] you can't cite it ah ah there we go there we go you can't say are you denying the fact that no no
[5:12] no no no no i'm holding you to account because that's the narrative you're just
[5:15] running with and then you can't cite a specific example what i'm telling you again this man is
[5:21] deeply disingenuous thank god you're out of politics we don't need more lying politicians
[5:25] like you what we don't need we don't need more lying politicians i'm running for congress too
[5:30] i'm actually still in the race yes in hollywood glendale burbank and pasadena we need people who
[5:36] tell the truth we don't need liars like you when this episode comes out and they show the fact
[5:40] check and you are miserably wrong as you could i'm not going to be wrong and they show this is this
[5:46] when america gets to watch the fact that the person running to be your next congressman
[5:50] literally cannot read data this guy's breaking down he's like looking at the guys please get
[5:55] me out of here i think i'm doing you looked at the clock dude you're like you're breaking down
[6:01] in real time i can see your face is like twitching i think i'm just chilling you don't seem like it
[6:07] because he here's the reality is that under barack obama we know that we focus more on the convicted
[6:14] criminals and you guys just aren't i'm sorry that the numbers don't back up what you're talking
[6:19] about but that's just literally they literally don't this is just going to be just so beautiful
[6:22] because when they show this fact check we're just gonna i guess one of us is gonna go viral over
[6:27] this i guess uh-huh how can a guy be so confident in something and be so wrong i think we paused
[6:32] pause okay well this is gonna be a great it's gonna be a great fact check i will say it's great
[6:44] to meet you good to see you brother i'm gonna start saying something that might not make
[6:48] everyone else like me but i actually think you've been real honest during this conversation um
[6:53] and so but i want to start with i don't know if it's 30 or if
[6:56] 70 as y'all were debating but even if it's 30 shouldn't all of those 30 be deported here's the
[7:04] problem is that ice has a certain amount of resources just like for example police officers
[7:10] we have a lot of our officers focusing on violent crime so when it comes to the limited resources
[7:16] that ice has i would say that it would make more sense to go after the worst of the worst violent
[7:20] terrorists that are in this country we focus more on those folks under barack obama's administration
[7:25] and i think that it makes more sense to
[7:27] go after those folks now because currently what we're seeing is an ice that's literally going
[7:31] to go get folks blanket across the country it's leading to so many mistakes like for example the
[7:35] grad student for example i'm sorry the student that was a college student in georgia that was
[7:40] literally detained in an isis center facility for two weeks literally as a result of a mistaken
[7:45] identity i don't think that that's something that keeps us more safe in this country
[7:48] so can we start with points of agreement i think that might be sure useful can we regardless of
[7:53] how we get there can we agree that those 30 percent who got deported should have been
[7:57] deported the what the convicted criminal convicted criminal yes what you said is 30 yes someone said
[8:01] it was 70 whatever so we start there okay so now we have to talk about the remaining i'm going to
[8:06] say 70 percent yes i believe your stat um to me it seems that those people are also making our
[8:14] civilization unsafe because they promote a culture of lawlessness when you have a set of person a
[8:20] category of person who is by definition an outlaw they themselves have to be afraid of the police
[8:27] for normal things and they encourage their friends then to be afraid of the police for normal things
[8:32] and so you create a culture where people are afraid of the police because of things that have
[8:38] nothing to do with them and so when these people are around they actually make it such that the
[8:43] people near them can't be pro-police and so if you deport the people who aren't criminals themselves
[8:49] but who exist as a category of outlaw and you remove this outlaw category you no longer have
[8:55] this semi-enforced law situation
[8:58] we can move to a place where we have fully enforced law and so i think that we both agree
[9:02] that less crime is good like obviously and the i think that one the best way to get rid of crime
[9:09] is to police crime when you punish criminals they stop doing crime but you need people to
[9:13] believe in the police you need people to love the police you need people to want to be safe
[9:17] do undocumented immigrants commit less crime than american citizens i think they're probably
[9:22] i think it's probably true but the problem is that if they get caught up so they commit less crime
[9:28] does that fill the narrative that you're referring to for example imagine i'm an illegal immigrant
[9:32] i'm not but imagine that i was and some crime happened to me i am less likely to call the police
[9:39] because i'm afraid that i could get deported and same thing if i'm in a group of people and one of
[9:43] us is an illegal immigrant and a crime happens we are now afraid to call the police because of
[9:50] what might happen to our friend and so this category of let's see if we can get a culture
[9:54] of not believed let's see if we can agree on this okay i support making sure that we're wearing our
[9:56] same service to the波mang but people who say well i feel like i should have stopped wearing this
[9:57] i don't see someone who just holds drugs right there that does make me i mean i i feel like i do so
[9:58] i mean i based kind of hat on i was my introduction atmosphere man baby iarias jerry how much money that
[9:59] sure that we can have a strong border in our country.
[10:01] Yes, sir.
[10:02] I think that that's fair.
[10:02] Thank you.
[10:03] Okay?
[10:03] I do not support violent criminals in our country.
[10:06] Yes, sir.
[10:06] I don't think the vast majority of Americans do.
[10:08] I also support making sure that there's a pathway to citizenship for those that are
[10:12] here that are undocumented.
[10:13] So the question then comes, what do we do with the limited resources that ICE has in
[10:18] front of us?
[10:19] I personally believe that we should be more focused on convicted criminals.
[10:22] Yes.
[10:22] Violent people that are in our country.
[10:24] But when we have a system in which 70% of the people that are literally detained by
[10:28] ICE itself are those that have not been convicted of a crime, 47% of those people have not even
[10:34] been charged with a crime.
[10:36] They're just people they run.
[10:36] So 53% have been charged with a crime then?
[10:38] What?
[10:38] So 53% have been charged with a crime then?
[10:41] No.
[10:41] That's not what I said.
[10:42] You just said 47% haven't been charged.
[10:44] 47%.
[10:45] Oh, I'm sorry.
[10:45] So what percent have been?
[10:46] Yeah, 53% have been charged.
[10:47] So over half are charged with a crime.
[10:49] Yeah.
[10:49] If you look at what the 47% number before Trump got in office, it was around 10%-ish.
[10:54] So what I'm saying is, is that we should be more focused on rounding up convicted
[10:58] criminals.
[10:58] In this country, people that are going to be doing things as it is.
[11:03] So would you agree on giving more money to ICE to go get all the convicted criminals?
[11:06] But that's not really what's happening, right?
[11:08] We're already paying.
[11:08] We're literally spending more money on ICE this year than the Spanish military is on
[11:12] their entire thing.
[11:13] And we're seeing the results.
[11:14] Well, because that's Spain.
[11:14] Well, but I'm just saying.
[11:16] Like, I don't want to talk about the Spanish military.
[11:18] I mean, but come on.
[11:18] I mean, that's an entire military.
[11:19] It's not 1453.
[11:20] I mean, but that's an entire military, right?
[11:22] What I'm saying is.
[11:23] I'm sure it's more than the military.
[11:24] What I'm saying is, is that it doesn't make sense to me that we're spending all this money
[11:28] and 70% of the people that we're deporting, right?
[11:31] So at the end result, right?
[11:32] Not just the folks that are detained.
[11:33] The end result of the folks that we're saying, okay, we're going to get you out of here.
[11:36] 70% of them have not been convicted.
[11:38] So can we address the fact that having a category of person who is an outlaw, who cannot rely
[11:44] on the police, makes the entire neighborhood unsafe?
[11:47] Because what's happening in this country is that those people that are undocumented are
[11:51] those that commit crimes at a low rate.
[11:52] Here's the real thing.
[11:53] But you're not saying what I'm saying.
[11:55] Because here's what really.
[11:56] You've missed what I'm talking about.
[11:57] Because here's what makes us less safe.
[11:58] What makes us less safe in this country is going and having someone to do these complete
[12:02] raids and you go find these mistaken cases of identity in which American citizens have
[12:07] been detained.
[12:07] Tragedies, everyone.
[12:08] Every single one of them.
[12:09] Every single one.
[12:09] And those are at an increase.
[12:10] All 10 of them.
[12:10] That makes us far more unsafe than what the thing that you're talking about in these policies
[12:15] All policing is always going to have mistakes.
[12:18] But if you want to claim that just because there are some.
[12:19] But those situations have increased.
[12:21] Well, because policing has increased.
[12:22] So what's happening in this country is that what you're focusing on, you're focusing on
[12:26] rounding up people that have not been convicted of a crime.
[12:29] Who are a category of outlaw.
[12:30] And as a result of that.
[12:31] Can you address the fact that those people make neighborhoods more unsafe?
[12:35] No, I'm not going to say that at all.
[12:35] All policing is always going to have some accidents.
[12:38] And they're all terrible.
[12:39] And they should all not happen.
[12:40] But if you're going to have a system, you're going to mistake sometimes.
[12:44] And they're all bad.
[12:45] And I'm opposed to all of them.
[12:46] But I'm talking about.
[12:47] First, we agreed on the 30%.
[12:49] Which is a huge point of agreement that I think we need to elevate.
[12:53] And then on the 70%.
[12:54] These people cannot be regulated by the system.
[12:58] In the correct.
[12:59] Way.
[12:59] They do not trust the system in the correct way.
[13:01] They do.
[13:01] They definitionally by the status of who they are.
[13:05] Make the neighborhood less safe.
[13:07] Because it makes so everybody in the neighborhood can't rely on the police.
[13:10] Or their friend might get deported.
[13:12] So you have to remove these people.
[13:13] In order to get rid of this semi-enforced.
[13:16] Semi-category of law.
[13:17] You have to do that.
[13:18] Can we.
[13:19] Do you not believe that?
[13:20] Are you saying that neighborhoods that have high percentages of undocumented people.
[13:24] Are oftentimes some of those violent neighborhoods in cities?
[13:26] Is that what you're saying?
[13:27] That might be the case.
[13:28] I'm not sure.
[13:28] I.
[13:28] But.
[13:29] It probably would be the case.
[13:30] But it doesn't.
[13:31] That's not what I'm trying to say.
[13:32] If you look at cities that have higher percentages of undocumented populations.
[13:35] Those cities oftentimes have lower crime rates.
[13:37] Yeah.
[13:38] I'm not sure if that was the case.
[13:39] Or which way that would go.
[13:40] But I'm telling you.
[13:41] You have to address this category of outlaw.
[13:43] I don't know why we're going in circles here.
[13:44] Do you not believe that?
[13:45] Because I don't think that the argument that you're making.
[13:47] Really has anything to do with the root of the issue.
[13:50] The root of the issue.
[13:51] The root of the issue.
[13:52] Safety of America.
[13:52] The root of the issue is about safety.
[13:54] Yes.
[13:54] And if we have the fact that our ice.
[13:56] As it stands today.
[13:57] Is more focused on rounding up people.
[13:58] That have not been even accused of a crime.
[14:01] Instead of violent terrorists that are in this country.
[14:03] Violent people in America.
[14:05] I think that that itself makes us less safe.
[14:06] Because here's who's celebrating.
[14:08] The people in this country.
[14:09] That are doing wrong.
[14:10] Because they know that people are more focused on going to a fiesta.
[14:13] Or a grocery store.
[14:14] Or a Home Depot.
[14:15] Or a place of work.
[14:16] Or a plant.
[14:17] Or somewhere else.
[14:17] To round up people.
[14:18] You think criminals are celebrating this?
[14:19] I would say so.
[14:20] Because they're literally being rounded up.
[14:22] At a lower rate.
[14:24] Okay.
[14:24] Pause.
[14:25] You've been voted out by the majority.
[14:26] It's great to talk with you.
[14:27] Thank you.
[14:28] Thank you so much.
[14:28] Thank you.
[14:29] Thank you.
[14:29] Hi.
[14:36] Hi.
[14:36] How are you?
[14:37] One of the issues that Trump mainly went on.
[14:40] Was immigration.
[14:42] From both sides.
[14:43] And I find this ingenuous.
[14:46] This selective outrage.
[14:47] To what makes it safe.
[14:50] What do you mean by that?
[14:50] Well.
[14:51] We have tens of thousands.
[14:53] If not hundreds of thousands.
[14:54] Of children missing.
[14:56] And not accounted for.
[14:57] Since the open borders.
[14:58] We have $150 billion.
[15:02] Spent from American taxpayer dollars.
[15:05] $200 billion.
[15:05] To house.
[15:06] And educate.
[15:08] And give welfare.
[15:09] To illegal aliens.
[15:11] This takes away.
[15:12] Give me an example of that.
[15:13] Well.
[15:14] I mean.
[15:15] Just look in New York.
[15:16] The $12 billion spent on housing immigrants in hotels.
[15:20] Just alone in California.
[15:22] $23 billion was taken away from our educational system.
[15:27] To support illegal immigrants.
[15:29] Is that safe for the hardworking American?
[15:31] For the veterans.
[15:33] Who have to wait behind.
[15:35] Illegals who get fast-tracked in their health care.
[15:39] Is that safe for them?
[15:41] Now I probably find agreement with you.
[15:44] That people who want to do it the right way.
[15:46] There should be less bureaucracy.
[15:48] There should be people who want to contribute to the American dream.
[15:52] Who are here in good faith.
[15:54] We want.
[15:55] My father's an immigrant.
[15:56] My grandparents are immigrants.
[15:58] But you have to do it the right way.
[16:01] And sometimes when you have such irresponsible management of the borders.
[16:06] As we've seen.
[16:06] With open borders for the last few years.
[16:09] There will be sometimes an overcorrection.
[16:12] What is Donald Trump doing to make it easier to do things the right way?
[16:15] Well, he's closed the borders.
[16:16] That's number one.
[16:17] That's not what I asked you.
[16:21] I said, what is he doing to make it easier to come across the border the right way?
[16:25] Well, he's making new policies.
[16:28] Like what?
[16:28] Well, he has to ensure that they're actually asylum seeking.
[16:32] No, that's not what I asked though.
[16:34] What is he doing to make it easier for the, because you just said that you support making it easier.
[16:38] Legal immigration.
[16:39] Legal immigration.
[16:39] Yes.
[16:40] I think that we all probably should agree with that.
[16:42] Yeah.
[16:42] What is he doing to advance that goal?
[16:44] Well, the first thing you do is you have to cut off the, the, the huge drain of open border policy where.
[16:53] That's not what I asked you.
[16:54] Okay.
[16:54] Well, again, and I think the.
[16:56] Can you just tell me one thing.
[16:57] The theme here today is.
[16:58] One possible thing.
[16:59] He's shut the borders.
[17:00] That's not what I asked you.
[17:01] But that's a major thing.
[17:02] I asked you what specific thing is he doing to make it easier for people to legally come into the country.
[17:09] Well, I mean.
[17:09] To make it easier for people to legally come into this country.
[17:12] Well, I know when he was in the first term.
[17:14] I'm not talking.
[17:14] He had the remain in Mexico policy.
[17:15] I'm not sure of the exact policies, but what he's doing is working.
[17:18] So nothing.
[17:19] He has, again, you're skirting away from the issue.
[17:21] So nothing.
[17:22] Americans put Trump in office because they saw if Kamala was still in office, we would have open borders and it would be even more unsafe.
[17:31] If a central pillar to your argument is making it easier for legal immigration into this country, and you cannot tell me one specific example of anything.
[17:39] But what I what I said was what I how does any of that make my words around?
[17:44] I do think it should be easier for the right people to come in legal.
[17:47] So then what is he doing to advance that?
[17:49] But again, in the meantime, we have a big problem of illegals.
[17:54] Many of them don't have when you talk about people who talk about unsafety.
[17:58] Let's talk about Lincoln Riley, an American who was just jogging and live in her life and was brutally murdered by an illegal alien.
[18:05] Is that safe?
[18:06] Is that safe to let people who are gang members and nationalists?
[18:09] Yeah.
[18:09] Yeah.
[18:10] And drug cartels into our country with the fentanyl crisis?
[18:13] A real thing is that safe for our kids?
[18:16] So let's not happen to what happened to Lake and Riley.
[18:19] I think every American agrees was absolutely horrific.
[18:22] I think we can say it's just like, for example, when Molly Tibbetts was killed under the Trump administration by an undocumented person in this country.
[18:30] This happens across and every time it happens, it is wrong.
[18:32] And I think we all should say that any person that commits a violent crime needs to be locked up, deported.
[18:37] We all agree with that.
[18:38] But here's the central problem.
[18:39] Is that what you're focused on is rounding up people in this country that have not been convicted of a crime.
[18:46] That does not make us more safe.
[18:48] That's because when you have that's a blanket state.
[18:50] That's just simply the facts.
[18:51] Trump has run on criminals, violent criminals first.
[18:55] Let me ask you, let me let me let me ask you a question of those people that are sitting in ICE detention facilities right now.
[19:01] How many do you think have been convicted of a violent crime?
[19:05] Just take a guess.
[19:07] I could not.
[19:08] I trust the Trump administration.
[19:10] Take a guess.
[19:10] I don't know.
[19:11] Let's throw a number.
[19:12] Just take it.
[19:12] What do you think it could be?
[19:13] Well, 100% because they're all illegal.
[19:15] I said convicted of a violent crime.
[19:16] It doesn't matter.
[19:17] It doesn't matter.
[19:19] I said how many have been convicted of a violent crime?
[19:22] Why have they not filed the papers?
[19:23] Why are they taking advantage of the systems?
[19:25] It doesn't matter.
[19:25] All of them.
[19:26] What percentage of these 100% you think only because if they're only 5% of the people in ICE detention facilities today have been convicted of a violent crime?
[19:37] Are they here undocumented?
[19:38] 5%.
[19:39] Are they here undocumented?
[19:40] 5%.
[19:41] 5%.
[19:42] Are they here undocumented?
[19:43] Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[19:43] Are they here undocumented?
[19:45] But this just screams about what people are seeing in this country.
[19:49] You literally believe that 100% of the people in ICE detention facilities have been convicted of a violent crime.
[19:55] Only 5%.
[19:57] I said a crime, but they're undocumented.
[20:01] I don't know the statistic of violent crime, but do you understand why they're there in the first place?
[20:05] You just told me that number was 100%.
[20:07] OK.
[20:07] They're undocumented 100%.
[20:10] The priority we should all agree on.
[20:12] It should be violent crime first.
[20:13] 95% of the people in ICE detention facilities have not been convicted of a violent crime.
[20:17] I don't think that's a true statistic.
[20:18] That's a fact from DHS itself.
[20:22] I don't.
[20:23] Pause.
[20:24] You've been voted out by the majority.
[20:25] Please take your seat.
[20:36] How's it going?
[20:36] Martin, nice to meet you.
[20:37] Good to see you.
[20:38] That's my last name.
[20:39] Oh, that's a great name.
[20:40] Awesome.
[20:41] So I guess on this illegal immigration point, you talked about affordability earlier.
[20:45] So I want to talk about that a little bit.
[20:46] Do you know how much the average American citizen contributes in taxes to subsidize illegal immigrants in this country?
[20:50] How much?
[20:51] That's $1,000 per US taxpayer.
[20:52] How much?
[20:52] US taxpaying citizens subsidizing illegal immigrants in our country.
[20:56] We also talked about affordability earlier.
[20:58] You're talking about federal taxes, right?
[20:59] Yes.
[21:01] Why are house prices so expensive right now?
[21:03] We haven't built enough over the time.
[21:05] Well, I mean, that's part of the reason.
[21:06] But I would say another part of the reason is because we've had 10 million people enter our country in the last four years who aren't supposed to be in our country.
[21:12] And guess what?
[21:14] When you kick out, according to the admin, 2 million people over this first year, we've had housing prices fall this quarter.
[21:21] Why do you think housing prices have fell this quarter?
[21:22] Well, for the last few years, right, let's just say over the last four years, what do you think the majority of housing inflation happened?
[21:30] One years.
[21:30] Tell me.
[21:31] 2021, 2022, as a result of that.
[21:35] We know that, but we know our highest years for immigration into this country were after that.
[21:39] So the results are is that we saw in the time period in which we had the most illegal immigration coming into this country that was not coincided with the increase in housing prices.
[21:50] Well, can you explain to me what housing prices that fell this quarter?
[21:52] What policy change?
[21:53] What policy change has been brought about besides kicking out millions of people?
[21:56] Because over because here's the root of the issue is that when you look at, for example, what immigration as a whole, whether it's illegal immigration, whether it's legal immigration, we know that accounts for maybe 1%, maybe 2% of total housing inflation.
[22:11] The rest of it is the fact that we literally have not built up to the demand that we literally have in this country.
[22:15] I agree with you on that.
[22:16] That's the overarching point.
[22:17] I mean, 100%, we should be building more housing.
[22:18] So that's the reason why housing has gone up for a long time, no matter what it is.
[22:23] The facts are, in this country, we have not built enough housing.
[22:26] Sure, but removing 10 million people would also do a whole hell of a lot to decrease the supply of people that are competing for housing, wouldn't you say?
[22:32] Well, but we also know that a lot of, we also know that of the people that build those homes, 50% of those people are those that are immigrants into this country.
[22:38] And so if you go and you round up specifically these people, you're also going to be able to build less housing as it currently stands.
[22:45] Okay, so why have housing prices fell this quarter?
[22:46] The only policy change we've had that can relate to housing prices is people getting kicked out of our country.
[22:50] That's not true.
[22:51] What federal housing policy changes?
[22:52] Like, for example?
[22:53] In the city of Austin, they used federal funds, for example, to do something that they called, it was a big housing initiative that they had.
[23:01] It led to rents declining for the first time in a long time, housing prices declining for the first time in a long time.
[23:06] That was because they put pro-housing policies.
[23:08] Yeah, I agree, we need pro-housing policies.
[23:09] It's the exact same thing in Minnesota.
[23:11] What's happening in America is that more cities are coming around to understand that the more housing that you build, the lower that leads for regular people.
[23:20] That's what's happening.
[23:21] Because if you look at, for example, the rate of increase.
[23:23] The way that it's stabilized and the way that it starts to go down, it follows a trend of more cities adopting pro-housing policies to build housing all across America.
[23:30] And that's a fact.
[23:31] No, I mean, sure, we need, like I said, I agree with you, we need to increase the supply of housing.
[23:34] But let's also go back to my point on how much American citizens are subsidizing illegal immigrants.
[23:39] Do you think it's a good thing that the average American is subsidizing $1,000 a year out of their taxpayer money to fund illegal immigrants?
[23:45] What I don't think is a good idea is the fact that we're paying way more for that, for billionaires to go sip on pina coladas on private jets in Montenegro.
[23:51] 80% of Americans have their taxes covered.
[23:53] That's what's happening in America right now.
[23:55] Really?
[23:56] Yes, 80% of Americans.
[23:57] Essay and fact check.
[23:58] 80% of Americans had their taxes cut by the one big beautiful bill for middle class Americans.
[24:03] How so?
[24:04] $80,000 to $100,000.
[24:05] I think it was around $1,000 to $2,000.
[24:06] What happened to the tax rate?
[24:07] It went down.
[24:08] It did?
[24:09] Yeah, for 80% of Americans.
[24:10] The tax rate?
[24:11] Yeah.
[24:12] The tax rate didn't go down.
[24:13] Yes, it did.
[24:14] The tax rate didn't go down.
[24:15] Essay and fact check right here.
[24:16] The tax rate?
[24:17] Yes, the effective tax rate for Americans.
[24:18] Oh, the effective tax rate.
[24:19] Yeah, the tax rate for Americans went down.
[24:20] I mean, do you disagree with that?
[24:21] Well, because that's not what happened.
[24:23] What happened was maybe an increase for the standard deduction and some other things,
[24:26] but a lot of those policies, and I just want to make sure this is very clear here.
[24:30] The policies for regular people and the tax cuts that were in the big beautiful rip-off
[24:35] bill per se for those that make less than $200,000 a year were supported by a lot of
[24:41] Democrats.
[24:42] Democrats supported these ideas.
[24:43] Nobody supported raising income taxes for folks that made less than $400,000 a year.
[24:48] Well, Kamala Harris accepted the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
[24:51] Exactly.
[24:52] You know why?
[24:53] Because what we don't support is the fact that the richest corporations in America are
[24:56] getting away with paying little to nothing in taxes.
[24:58] What we know is that with the 21% corporate tax rate that we have, it's too low in America.
[25:02] Okay, so I want to establish.
[25:03] You want to raise the corporate tax rate.
[25:04] You want to tax unrealized gains.
[25:06] You want to do all these things that are-
[25:07] Can I say that?
[25:08] I mean, I'm asking you, because that's what Kamala Harris said.
[25:10] I think that for those people that make more than a billion dollars a year, they should
[25:13] pay a property tax style tax on their wealth.
[25:16] That is what's-
[25:17] Okay, well, you talked about corporate taxes, because that's what Kamala Harris ran on.
[25:19] She ran on raising the corporate taxes.
[25:21] She ran on raising the effective gains tax.
[25:23] Can you at least acknowledge that that is just economically suicidal for our country
[25:27] and would result in businesses slashing jobs and leaving our countries in droves?
[25:31] You know what the top corporate tax rate was in the 1990s when Bill Clinton had the largest
[25:36] piece on expansion of the American economy?
[25:37] What was it?
[25:38] 35%.
[25:39] Okay.
[25:40] Higher than what it was now.
[25:41] Do you know what the effective corporate tax rate-
[25:42] In 2017, 2020, we had a record unemployment-
[25:43] Do you know what the effective corporate tax rate was when Barack Obama had 74 straight
[25:48] months of job growth in America?
[25:50] Do you know when that was?
[25:51] I know that we-
[25:52] Do you know what it was?
[25:53] I know that when we slashed the corporate tax rates in 2017-
[25:56] Do you know what it was?
[25:57] That we had record-
[25:58] Do you know what it was?
[25:59] Job growth under Donald Trump going up-
[26:00] Do you know what it was?
[26:01] What was it?
[26:02] It was 35%.
[26:03] Okay.
[26:04] So in these massive periods of time in which we've had so much job growth in this
[26:06] country, million, tens of millions of jobs created in this country, we had a 35% corporate
[26:10] tax rate.
[26:11] All the things that you're talking about-
[26:12] And then when we cut it again, there was even more job growth under the first Trump
[26:14] term.
[26:15] That's literally not what happened.
[26:16] The rate of job growth literally declined right after that.
[26:18] We just continued on a trend and then it literally smoothed a little bit.
[26:20] That's got to happen.
[26:21] That's not what happened.
[26:22] No, it didn't.
[26:23] We had record job growth under President Trump from 2017 up until the start of COVID.
[26:27] That's just simply not true.
[26:28] Because what happened-
[26:29] You're just wrong.
[26:30] Because you can say that I am all you want, because the reality is that under Donald Trump,
[26:35] the second the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was signed, we were on a period of job growth for a very
[26:39] long time, but the rate of increase started to smooth out a little bit.
[26:42] Because here's the reality, is that we saw that job growth in this country can continue
[26:46] with a top corporate tax rate of 35%.
[26:49] And it would increase even more with a lower-
[26:51] And all I'm saying here today is that when you go and you cut these big taxes for these
[26:55] big corporations, what happens to the deficit?
[26:58] It goes up.
[26:59] It goes up-
[27:00] Right, because we need to spend less.
[27:01] You are borrowing against our children's future.
[27:02] That's why you saw an emergence of trillion dollar deficits when Donald Trump signed that
[27:06] bill.
[27:07] Well, I mean, that was mainly because of COVID and having to spend during COVID.
[27:09] No, it wasn't.
[27:10] I agree with you.
[27:11] We have a spending problem in this country.
[27:12] We need to spend a lot less.
[27:13] I agree with you on that.
[27:14] Even if you look at the Committee for Responsible Budgets report, which is a nonpartisan committee
[27:17] of non-COVID related debt approved into this country.
[27:21] About four, four and a half trillion dollars is approved under Donald Trump compared to
[27:24] about 2.4 trillion dollars-
[27:25] Okay, so then let me ask you this then.
[27:26] Why do we need a full bill?
[27:27] Do you agree with-
[27:28] So the facts are-
[27:29] Do you agree with having more requirements for Medicaid?
[27:30] So the facts are, is that when you go and you pass a piece of legislation like that,
[27:33] it adds more debt that all of us eventually have to pay and it leverages our children's
[27:36] future.
[27:37] Pause.
[27:38] We're out of time.
[27:39] Thanks so much.
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[28:42] My next surrounded claim is that Trump prioritizes the wealthy while he leaves you behind.
[28:45] Nice to meet you, JP.
[28:53] Good to see you, JP.
[28:54] Let's get right into it.
[28:56] Let's go.
[28:57] Yeah.
[28:58] I think that I can see your claim.
[29:01] I want to hear you argue it a little more if you want.
[29:03] I mean, the main argument is that look at all the things that Trump promised.
[29:06] He promised that he would make us not pay taxes.
[29:09] He promises that we would have gas prices, national average, less than two bucks a gallon.
[29:13] And he promised that he would cut our energy bills in half within a year.
[29:16] It's a year.
[29:17] We don't have any of that.
[29:18] Our energy bills are up 11 percent.
[29:20] Meanwhile, we see the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans getting about a trillion dollars
[29:23] worth of tax cuts with a big rip off bill.
[29:26] I would say that's very clear that he's more focused on the wealthiest people.
[29:28] That's what I'm saying.
[29:29] He's more focused on the wealthiest people in our country.
[29:31] I think that the argument that I would make, and it's I think it's a structural one, is
[29:35] that we've got for the last 30 years, globalism has stalled our strategic thinking.
[29:41] And if we want real change, it's not going to happen.
[29:44] Not in a year.
[29:46] It's going to be it's going to be a strong break.
[29:48] And that's just beginning.
[29:49] But he said what we've seen, what we've seen, and I think this is part of the issue with
[29:53] a lot of Democrats is a hyper fixation on consumers on, oh, the products, the products,
[29:59] the products.
[30:00] But what we've lost is labor.
[30:01] And I think you, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to understand this.
[30:04] I didn't I didn't know that Joe Biden was a bad thing to be concerned about under Joe
[30:09] Biden.
[30:10] I didn't know that 50 to 60 percent increase of border crossings, the illegal immigrant
[30:15] population.
[30:16] You can fact check me on this Jubilee, but I think it almost doubled.
[30:19] It's like 10 million people came into this country that affects working class Americans.
[30:24] Democrats don't care about this policy.
[30:26] The reality is that Democrats will be, oh, tariffs.
[30:28] All right.
[30:29] There are attacks on consumers.
[30:31] But what do you say about the workers in America that have lost their jobs?
[30:36] Millions and millions of jobs that have left this country.
[30:38] If you think this is going to change in a year, then you're wrong.
[30:42] We need policy that's brave and courageous.
[30:45] And that's what we're seeing with Trump.
[30:47] First off, the unemployment rate is higher since Trump has taken office.
[30:51] The unemployment rate.
[30:52] I don't really know.
[30:53] I don't really know what you're talking about.
[30:54] This last quarter, we had a 4% increase.
[30:55] I think that we should stay focused on the fact that I did not know.
[30:56] Inflation, inflation increased much more than the last years of the Biden administration.
[30:59] I know that it was controversial for me to be mad about prices.
[31:00] When Trump got elected the first time and the economy went up, you guys said, oh, it's
[31:05] because he's benefiting from the Obama economy.
[31:07] But now that it's the first year and the economy is starting to lift up, you guys don't say
[31:11] the same thing.
[31:12] Starting to lift up?
[31:13] You guys don't say the same thing.
[31:14] Is inflation going up?
[31:15] What are you talking about?
[31:16] Do you remember Joe Biden's presidency?
[31:17] What do you think happens when the government expands and expands and continues to spend
[31:22] its money?
[31:23] Let's mills of illegal immigrants in and does nothing.
[31:25] This isn't going to go anywhere if you're just going to give a monologue.
[31:27] If you want to lower inflation.
[31:28] If you want to lower inflation.
[31:29] If you want to lower inflation and at the same time bring back jobs, you need to do
[31:31] two things.
[31:32] I don't think your friends think you're doing that.
[31:33] Domestic, domestic deregulation, while at the same time fighting the externalization
[31:38] of labor.
[31:39] We've left our country kill itself and we don't want to do that no longer.
[31:44] If it's going to take some discomfort, I welcome it.
[31:47] And I think many Americans welcome it.
[31:48] What we're not going to do and what the Trump administration is not going to do that Democrats
[31:52] did is ignore the American people.
[31:54] Yes, popular sentiment right now.
[31:56] They're not comfortable with the economy, but they have not been comfortable with the
[31:59] economy in the last 30 years because you've been talking for a solid three and a half
[32:03] minutes.
[32:04] Do you think the economy has worked under Biden or under Obama?
[32:07] Here's what we were talking about.
[32:08] I'm going to remind you about the prompt.
[32:10] The idea in front of us is that it was not me that put these expectations on Donald Trump.
[32:16] Trump said it himself.
[32:17] He said that he would cut our energy bills in half by a year.
[32:20] He said that he could just go walk into the office and get it done.
[32:24] And what happened?
[32:25] We are exporting.
[32:26] We're exporting more energy now than ever before.
[32:28] It's beginning.
[32:29] It's left and right.
[32:30] It's beginning.
[32:31] It's beginning.
[32:32] It's beginning.
[32:33] Energy policy is becoming saner.
[32:34] 11% up is a lot different than 50% down like what he originally promised.
[32:36] Trump's not delivering.
[32:37] Why don't you like about our current energy policy?
[32:39] Why is it that you cannot stay focused on the topic in front of us?
[32:41] The Democrats are the ones that constrain energy.
[32:44] The Democrats are the ones that constrain drill baby drill.
[32:46] Pause.
[32:47] Pause.
[32:48] You've been voted out by the majority.
[32:49] Please return to your seat.
[32:51] That's fine.
[32:56] I like you guys' energy.
[32:57] I will say that.
[33:02] Oh.
[33:04] Get back.
[33:05] She's quick.
[33:07] I just kind of want to piggyback off some of the things.
[33:08] I feel like my last friend was trying to get to.
[33:12] You said Trump set the expectation for himself.
[33:16] What I feel like a lot of people do on the left is they hear Trump and they hear it through
[33:20] the lens of I already hate him.
[33:22] I already want him to fail.
[33:23] So already you're coming at it from a very counterproductive perspective.
[33:28] The way, because I've watched every Trump rally because I had to.
[33:31] Really?
[33:32] Absolutely.
[33:33] Because I used to hate him.
[33:34] But what I found out was the reasons why I hated him was because of how things were cut
[33:38] up and presented to me for so many years.
[33:41] So I had to take it upon myself to go back.
[33:43] I had a lot of time in COVID to go back, watch every rally.
[33:46] A lot of it was hilarious.
[33:48] But it really gave me a full, better understanding of, oh, he was really saying this.
[33:52] Right.
[33:53] So because I used to be on the left.
[33:55] Absolutely.
[33:56] Well, how I see we're going to do it within a year is we're going to the policies are
[34:00] going to activate.
[34:01] We're going to have clear policies and we're going to make moves within the first year.
[34:05] Now, if you're being honest with yourself and you're being genuine.
[34:07] Good.
[34:08] Things take time.
[34:10] Change takes time.
[34:11] We're not going to fix everything that fell apart in one year.
[34:14] We're not going to see the results by December.
[34:16] To me that it would just be a disingenuous to say that you believe that anybody could
[34:20] do that, especially since of how we've suffered post-COVID.
[34:24] The globe suffered post-COVID.
[34:26] We have a lot to yeah, we have a lot to fix.
[34:28] So what I saw was him saying, hey, we're going to do these things policy.
[34:32] We're going to have the strategy, the things set in place within the first year, hence
[34:36] all the manufacturing deals.
[34:38] We have so absolutely NVIDIA.
[34:40] We have so many so much money coming into this country to build plants.
[34:44] All that's going to take time and all of that's going to help the working class, because let
[34:47] me tell you something.
[34:49] I'm also still the working class.
[34:50] I'm college educated.
[34:52] I know they said MAGA wasn't college educated or black, but I am.
[34:56] And let me tell you, but I'm also still working class.
[34:59] I also still drive Uber, drive Lyft.
[35:01] I clean a yoga studio.
[35:03] And let me tell you, like, usually those jobs go to.
[35:07] And no offense.
[35:08] But I think that's a good example of why it's so important that we keep our energy bills
[35:11] up.
[35:12] And that's because it's not a lot of illegal immigrants to be.
[35:13] Let me let me say.
[35:14] So first off, I acknowledge that you work hard, right?
[35:15] That is a lot of work.
[35:17] And I want to salute you for that.
[35:18] But the reality is, is that a lot of people in this country listen to Trump rallies and
[35:23] they heard him say specific things.
[35:25] And that's what informed him on.
[35:27] Or that's what informed them to go and make the decision to vote for him.
[35:30] The reality is, is that when you make promises, you're going to be graded on whether or not
[35:34] you keep them.
[35:35] And the reality is that he promised that he would cut our energy bills in half.
[35:37] I think that's so important.
[35:38] that has not happened hasn't even remotely have you seen on Twitter all the energy bills are up
[35:49] 11% that is a fact but the national average for gasoline in this country is literally almost the
[35:55] exact same as of what it was a year ago I know but it's about five cents less but even if you
[35:59] compare it by state I feel like a lot of Democratic ran states are suffering average okay but that was
[36:04] an average democratic states how's never all with huge population how's an average calculator you
[36:09] calculate everybody together and then you divide it over democratic states included in the average
[36:13] last year absolutely so they are included this year okay so why are you mentioning this is this
[36:20] this is a new phenomenon okay what I'm blue states were in there last year as they are this year and
[36:25] this year gas prices are if you compare it between this week and this week last year no but there's
[36:31] only five since lower but there are lower than last year promise that he would have there
[36:35] But the prices are lower than last year.
[36:37] Dude, there are so many people thanking Trump right now on TikTok.
[36:40] Just look for it.
[36:41] I know you don't want to look for it and you don't want to see the truth, but just look for it.
[36:44] So many people taking pictures of the gas prices in Texas and Louisiana going, dang, I ain't seen gas.
[36:49] It's $1.19.
[36:50] I done seen that so many times on TikTok, bro.
[36:53] I promise to goodness.
[36:54] All you got to do is go look for it, baby, because it's out there.
[36:56] You can look at the average.
[36:57] That's what I'm trying to tell you.
[36:58] You can look at the average.
[36:59] You can look at the numbers, but I'm telling you real people, I'm a real person sitting in front of you.
[37:02] Because facts are over feelings.
[37:03] That's how things work.
[37:04] It's not feelings, it's reality.
[37:05] Facts don't care about feelings.
[37:07] It's reality.
[37:07] That's how it goes.
[37:08] This is not a feeling, it's reality.
[37:09] And the reality is, is that the national average for gas is literally only five cents lower than what it was a year ago.
[37:16] And Trump said-
[37:16] Oh, so it's lower.
[37:17] So we got it lower.
[37:18] Trump said that he was going to have it less than two bucks a gallon.
[37:20] And it's going to keep dropping.
[37:21] Is that lower than two bucks a gallon?
[37:22] But it's lower.
[37:23] There's progress.
[37:24] So you're going to celebrate five cents?
[37:25] Yeah, I'm going to celebrate anything that's lower.
[37:27] Yes.
[37:28] And it's going to keep going.
[37:29] I'm not in my ego, bro.
[37:30] Says who?
[37:30] You're coming at this in your ego.
[37:32] In my ego because I'm looking at the facts?
[37:34] No, I'm coming at this as an American who wants to see everybody prosper and succeed.
[37:38] So here's what's not prospering in this country.
[37:42] The fact that people are seeing real wage growth in this country, literally half of what it was last year.
[37:47] The people in this country that are literally watching-
[37:48] Are you talking about unemployment?
[37:49] What?
[37:50] Are you talking about unemployment?
[37:51] Do you know what real wage growth is?
[37:52] Absolutely.
[37:53] What is it?
[37:53] But I'm saying, okay, wage growth as in how much we're making as Americans.
[37:58] Like if the money we take home is growing.
[38:01] That's what you mean.
[38:02] Yeah.
[38:03] Wage growth.
[38:03] Right, right.
[38:04] That's how they make that determination.
[38:05] Right, right.
[38:06] And if you look at that number, with everything together, it's half of what it was last year.
[38:11] Okay.
[38:12] But I'm saying there are so many different factors that contribute to that.
[38:16] Foreclosures are up.
[38:17] Absolutely.
[38:18] People cannot afford to live.
[38:19] But literally, this was last year.
[38:21] This has been happening since the pandemic.
[38:23] You had a president that ran for office saying that all he had to do was to get in office and he would fix every problem in America.
[38:30] And the reality is-
[38:31] Now you're coming back.
[38:31] That hasn't happened.
[38:32] Now you're coming back to, we want the magic wand.
[38:35] You guys ran on having a magic wand.
[38:37] You guys, I didn't run nothing.
[38:40] Like, what are you talking about?
[38:42] I thought that's what we were talking about.
[38:44] Like, literally, there's no magic wand.
[38:46] You've been voted out by the majority.
[38:47] Please take your seat.
[38:48] Thank you.
[38:57] Hi, how's it going?
[38:58] Nice to meet you.
[38:59] Good to see you.
[38:59] I just wanted to piggyback on something that was said before about, like, the average of gas prices.
[39:05] So I know about this pretty well.
[39:06] So I'm from Washington State.
[39:08] And we had something called the Climate Commitment Act done.
[39:11] By our Democrat-run state, which actually raised our gas prices since last year.
[39:16] So when you talk about the average only going down that much, it has gone down in a lot of other places in the country.
[39:21] But it's actually gone up in several blue states.
[39:23] So that's probably why you're seeing the average not go down by as much.
[39:27] So a lot of blue states live in insulated bubbles where they're not even getting the effects of some of the benefits of Trump's policies, like deregulation for energy.
[39:36] Did blue states have gas taxes last year?
[39:38] No, it was a new.
[39:39] Well, what we had is.
[39:41] The CCA was introduced from 2022.
[39:43] The people tried to repeal it through an initiative.
[39:46] We gathered almost 2.4 million signatures.
[39:49] That's not what I asked.
[39:49] It was declined by the.
[39:51] Did blue states have gas taxes last year?
[39:52] I can speak to my blue state.
[39:54] Yeah, we had.
[39:55] It was a new gas tax that we tried to repeal.
[39:57] Blue states, as in California, Washington, other places, have had gas taxes for a long time.
[40:01] And they literally were in the national average last year.
[40:04] And they're in it this year.
[40:05] If you look at states like Texas, for example, that's a state that does not have this particular act that you're mentioning.
[40:09] Gas prices.
[40:11] Maybe might be lower by 10 cents, 7 cents, 8 cents, something to that degree.
[40:15] The reality is, is that Trump promised nationally that he was going to bring the national average of gas less than two bucks a gallon.
[40:21] That has not happened.
[40:22] But here's what he has.
[40:23] I mean, here's what he has delivered on trillions of dollars, three point four trillion dollars worth of tax cuts, one trillion of which flowed to the wealthiest one percent of Americans.
[40:33] He can keep promises to his rich donor friends, but he can't keep promises to people like you.
[40:37] I'm more concerned with.
[40:38] I think that's the reason why Republicans are struggling.
[40:40] Sure.
[40:41] I don't really care if the rich are getting richer as long as the middle class and lower class are also taken care of.
[40:46] I don't believe in this whole idea that it's a zero sum game and that in order for the poor to do better, the rich have to do worse.
[40:52] Is that what I said?
[40:53] No, but that's kind of what you're implying, because we weren't even talking about what I said.
[40:56] We're talking about what affects people like me.
[40:58] Right.
[40:58] Gas prices affect people like what affects people like you is that Trump has not delivered on his whole promise of just wiping a pen on a piece of paper and then lowering people's gas prices.
[41:07] But he has not.
[41:08] You ran for office because you know that's not how it works, right?
[41:10] What he has not.
[41:10] What he has not.
[41:10] What he has not delivered on is the fact that literally people have their energy bills that are going up left and right.
[41:15] Inflation is going up.
[41:16] Food prices are going up left and right.
[41:17] And in my Democrat run state, they voted to increase energy prices.
[41:19] Grocery prices are going up everywhere across this country.
[41:22] Right.
[41:22] The reality is, is that you guys ran on an agenda.
[41:25] What's the reality?
[41:26] You ran on an agenda of lowering people's prices and you did not.
[41:29] Okay.
[41:30] You didn't do that.
[41:31] Oh, we didn't do that across the board.
[41:32] Okay.
[41:32] No, you didn't.
[41:33] That's what a national average is.
[41:35] Sure.
[41:36] I understand that.
[41:36] But you're completely ignoring the factors that come into play in those individual states.
[41:40] In my state, just like they voted to raise the gas tax for the gas you fill up in your car,
[41:44] they also voted to increase the gas for your natural gas that you use to heat your home.
[41:48] That affected small businesses.
[41:49] That affected immigrant small businesses more than anybody.
[41:52] You're not listening, actually.
[41:53] I'm not talking about gas taxes in one state.
[41:55] As soon as I tell you something that actually affects the average and middle class.
[41:58] It's irrelevant?
[41:59] The middle class is irrelevant?
[42:00] I never said that.
[42:01] Well, I'm trying to talk about what affects the middle class and you're talking about billionaires and tax breaks.
[42:05] Because here's what I said.
[42:06] Okay.
[42:06] What I said was, was that the national average is comprising of all 50 states.
[42:10] Sure.
[42:10] I get what an average is.
[42:10] Different states have different policies.
[42:12] And the reality is, is that some of these states that you're mentioning literally had gas taxes last year as well.
[42:18] They were also included in the average that Trump was lambasting saying that it was so high
[42:22] and that he was going to get into office and completely change that.
[42:25] He said that.
[42:26] You realize states have state rights, so Trump just can't come into a state and say like.
[42:28] Well, that was his promise.
[42:30] Okay.
[42:30] That's what he said.
[42:31] Oh, my God.
[42:32] He's saying.
[42:32] Maybe he should have thought about promising something that he couldn't deliver on.
[42:35] Okay, sure.
[42:36] Every politician should think about that.
[42:37] What politicians have delivered on everything that they've done.
[42:39] That's the point.
[42:41] So the point is.
[42:41] You're harping on this one thing and avoiding the actual thing that states are being mismanaged by Democrat run states from the governor down to the Senate to Congress and mayors.
[42:52] I just won an election up in Snohomish County in Washington.
[42:54] Shout out, Aaron.
[42:55] And we won one of the only Republicans to win in our state.
[42:59] And we did that by communicating to the people and actually figuring out what they want and being an open book and not being this insulated.
[43:06] We know better than everybody.
[43:08] And we're going to try to, you know.
[43:09] Manipulate your life into what we want it to be.
[43:12] That's not how it works.
[43:13] What were some of the things that you guys promised?
[43:15] What we promised?
[43:16] Well, we promised to actually we didn't make any promises to any sort of like donors or builders or anything like that.
[43:23] Say that you would do an office that we would listen to the people and that we would.
[43:27] Well, the biggest complaint about people was permitting permitting.
[43:30] It takes too long.
[43:31] And people were complaining about housing that too much multifamily housing was being built.
[43:35] Well, guess what?
[43:36] If you make permitting so long and arduous builders only want to build.
[43:40] Multi-family.
[43:40] Because if it's going to take years for the permit to go through, they're not going to they're not going to get their money back unless they make this building a multifamily thing.
[43:46] Right.
[43:47] So if you were to be in office and you didn't deliver on that, what would you think?
[43:52] I would want to be held responsible for that.
[43:54] And I criticize Trump for that.
[43:55] I'm not here to say that people should be held accountable if they don't deliver on what.
[43:58] Hundred percent. That's what we have elections for.
[44:00] Absolutely.
[44:01] Yeah.
[44:01] So the point is, is the whole reason why we're having this conversation is because you guys, the Republicans, have not delivered on what they said that they would deliver.
[44:10] OK.
[44:10] The prices are up.
[44:12] Energy bills are up.
[44:13] Everything is up.
[44:14] Yeah.
[44:14] The energy bills and gas prices are up in my state because of Democrats.
[44:17] Because the point is, is that.
[44:19] Like, that's just facts.
[44:20] We're talking about national averages.
[44:22] This is rhetoric.
[44:22] This actually means so little.
[44:24] So it means so little to that person that goes to the grocery store and realizes that they can't afford anything.
[44:29] It means so little.
[44:30] It means so little to the person who's losing their jobs left and right.
[44:32] It means so little to the person who's seeing $2 gas in other parts of the country and they're paying $5.25 a gallon.
[44:37] That's who it means a lot to.
[44:38] What do you say?
[44:39] It means a lot to the people that are.
[44:40] Single moms needing to, like, go take their kids to the doctor's appointment.
[44:43] What state are you referring to that's paying $2 and something a gallon?
[44:46] God, what, like Oklahoma, Tennessee.
[44:48] I say in Arizona, I paid $2.80.
[44:50] In Arizona.
[44:51] OK, if you look at the state average for Arizona, it's about maybe 10 percent, maybe a little bit lower.
[44:56] But it's not.
[44:56] But we don't even know that.
[44:57] I don't get you complaining that it did lower, but just not as much as you wanted it to lower.
[45:01] Because that's what you.
[45:02] It's like, I don't get what your point is.
[45:04] Because that was your promise.
[45:05] I don't get what your point is.
[45:06] That's what you promised.
[45:08] You promised that you were going to have these prices.
[45:10] Less than $2 a gallon nationally.
[45:11] And that did not happen.
[45:12] I look a little different than Trump.
[45:13] I did not say those things.
[45:14] Well, Trump still made these promises.
[45:16] He did.
[45:16] He did.
[45:16] Sure.
[45:17] And he didn't deliver it.
[45:18] OK, you win.
[45:18] There we go.
[45:19] Congrats on making a job.
[45:20] That's the argument.
[45:21] The only promises that seem to be kept are for those that are well-connected in this country.
[45:25] Because it makes no sense to me that we got the tax exemptions.
[45:29] They got the pass.
[45:30] If someone else breaks your promise for you, is that still your fault?
[45:32] What?
[45:33] If someone, if you, you know, promise something to somebody and say there's a middleman, like, I don't know, a state government.
[45:38] And then that middleman comes.
[45:40] Completely takes away what you promised to somebody else.
[45:42] Is that still your fault?
[45:43] Or is that the fault of the person who actually has control in that area?
[45:47] Why don't you explain to me what this Washington particular thing is?
[45:50] It's the CCA.
[45:51] It's the Climate Commitment Act.
[45:52] What is that?
[45:52] So it's essentially it's a carbon tax.
[45:55] And Jay Inslee, the last governor of the state, promised that it would only increase gas prices by pennies.
[46:01] That's what he literally said.
[46:01] He said pennies.
[46:02] We're talking about pennies.
[46:03] On average, it increased between 50 to 70 cents per gallon.
[46:06] I'm not listening.
[46:07] Pause.
[46:07] You voted out.
[46:08] I'm sorry.
[46:09] All right.
[46:10] Thank you.
[46:18] Isaiah.
[46:19] What's up, brother?
[46:19] Mo Robinson.
[46:20] Thank you.
[46:21] Hey, man.
[46:22] I'm going to be honest.
[46:23] Everything you've said up here sounds really disingenuous and one-sided.
[46:26] Where were you when Joe Biden's inflation raised to 9 percent?
[46:28] Where were you when Joe Biden's gas prices were eight and nine bucks?
[46:31] Where were you when the middle class was forced to stay inside and was forced to shut their businesses and the richer got richer and the poor got poorer?
[46:40] That was the real disparity there.
[46:42] And now you're sitting here complaining nine, ten months into a presidency about how he hasn't done what he's promised.
[46:47] Give the man a break.
[46:49] We just came out of the worst economy that's ever existed.
[46:51] 2.7 percent of the inflation rate, the night of the presidential election.
[46:54] Is that the worst inflation rate in the economy that you've ever seen?
[46:56] What do you mean?
[46:57] Say that again?
[46:58] On the night of the presidential election, the inflation rate in this country was 2.7 percent.
[47:01] So does that just take away the fact that it got to 9 percent in 2021 and 2022?
[47:05] What's your point?
[47:06] First off, I'm not here to defend everything under Joe Biden.
[47:09] No, that's what I'm saying is disingenuous.
[47:11] But what I am here to say is that when inflation was high, that was a result of the pandemic.
[47:15] And he brought that down to 2.7 percent.
[47:17] So you inherited an economy when inflation was substantially lower.
[47:22] And as a result, you guys ran a cold campaign saying that you were going to reduce it lower than the 2.7 percent.
[47:28] That did not happen.
[47:29] But it's happening.
[47:30] In fact, is it?
[47:31] Is inflation going down?
[47:32] Well, actually, what's crazy is the Fed chair, Jerome Powell, just said that we've taken in more money.
[47:39] Is inflation going down?
[47:39] Let me finish.
[47:40] My comment has said that Jerome Powell said that the tariffs have brought in so much money that we're actually in a surplus.
[47:47] It will.
[47:47] Inflation is going down?
[47:49] Does anybody think that their grocery prices are going down in America?
[47:52] Actually, chicken did just go down.
[47:54] Why?
[47:54] Because Trump thought that they were gouging.
[47:55] And beef prices are near all-time highs.
[47:57] So we can play this game of picking and choosing.
[48:00] That's why you got to look at an average.
[48:02] That's how that works.
[48:02] You ran for Congress, but you didn't speak out when Joe Biden destroyed this country.
[48:06] And now you're here nine months into a presidency.
[48:08] Oh, no.
[48:09] Come on, man.
[48:10] Because inflation was 2.7 percent.
[48:12] What are you talking about?
[48:13] It seems totally disingenuous.
[48:15] Chicken went from $3.40 to $10.
[48:17] And you said nothing.
[48:19] And that's ridiculous.
[48:20] And now you're complaining that Donald Trump can't magically flip the switch.
[48:23] He made the promise.
[48:24] Don't make promises you can't keep.
[48:26] Okay.
[48:27] So that's what I'm saying is disingenuous.
[48:28] You haven't even waited a year yet.
[48:30] He said that he was going to do this this quickly.
[48:32] He said on day one he was going to start voting.
[48:33] See, the difference between Democrats and Republicans, we realize things take time.
[48:36] You made the promise and said that it was going to happen in less than a year.
[48:39] Everybody makes promises, my man.
[48:40] Oh, okay.
[48:42] No, you're not.
[48:43] Again, this is why I think you're disingenuous.
[48:45] You're laughing at me.
[48:46] Did you win?
[48:47] Did you win your Congress?
[48:48] Brother, we're talking about the fact that inflation was 2.7% in the night of the presidential election.
[48:52] No, I'm saying maybe you didn't win because you're disingenuous.
[48:55] And now we have inflation that's going up.
[48:58] Okay.
[48:58] I don't really think that—I don't see what this is—
[49:00] So gas prices nationally are beneath $3 a gallon, lower than they've been in years.
[49:04] And you're sitting here picking—
[49:05] It's five cents lower.
[49:06] Again, you're complaining that it's five cents lower.
[49:08] You know what it was this time last year?
[49:09] And going back to my man's point right here, Gavin Newsom also introduced a new tax this year that raised prices again.
[49:15] So when you have Democrats that are—
[49:17] Counterintuitive to the success of this nation, they're destroying it, not Republicans.
[49:22] In fact, every single judge that sued Donald Trump—
[49:25] So why are we not seeing similar increases or decreases, for example, in Texas?
[49:30] Texas hasn't seen substantial increases.
[49:30] Texas just got under $3, I think.
[49:32] People are talking about it right now.
[49:34] It was less than $3 last year, the state average.
[49:36] The state average was less than $3 last year.
[49:38] We'd love to see the Jubilee fact check on that.
[49:40] And I will be correct.
[49:41] Okay, I hope you're right.
[49:43] But the national average is below—
[49:46] It's five cents below—
[49:47] Five cents below what it was.
[49:48] We're in a good place.
[49:49] You said it was going to be less than two bucks.
[49:50] That's what Trump said.
[49:51] No, I didn't say it.
[49:52] Well, that's what Trump said.
[49:53] Okay, let's get there.
[49:54] But it's really counterintuitive when you have Newsom, the guy from Washington, adding taxes on top of the gas to keep it high.
[50:02] It's almost like they're doing it on purpose to make sure prices don't come down.
[50:06] Oh, they're intentionally raising prices?
[50:08] Oh, so you get it now.
[50:09] You get it.
[50:10] They're intentionally raising prices?
[50:11] Absolutely.
[50:12] Oh, this is hilarious.
[50:13] Why is this hilarious?
[50:14] What's hilarious to me is watching anybody think about intentionally raising prices.
[50:17] When your central—
[50:18] Are you kidding me?
[50:19] —policy is tariffs.
[50:20] Nothing raises prices like tariffs.
[50:21] The argument was, was that Trump is raising people's prices.
[50:22] No, no, no.
[50:23] It's a fact.
[50:24] You can say it for whatever reason you want.
[50:25] Your argument is that he's not looking out for the middle class.
[50:26] But he's still raising prices.
[50:27] You just changed your argument.
[50:28] He is looking out for the middle class.
[50:29] Hopefully, tariffs bring jobs back here.
[50:30] How would he do that?
[50:31] And brings back manufacturing.
[50:32] Why is the unemployment rate going up?
[50:33] Why is manufacturing activity going down?
[50:34] Well, let's see.
[50:35] The unemployment's going up because we had to fire a bunch of people that were sitting
[50:36] in government because Joe Biden made government money.
[50:37] That's why.
[50:38] That's why.
[50:39] That's why.
[50:40] That's why.
[50:41] That's why.
[50:42] That's why.
[50:43] That's why.
[50:44] That's why.
[50:45] That's why.
[50:46] That's why.
[50:47] That's why.
[50:48] That's why.
[50:49] That's why.
[50:50] That's why.
[50:51] That's why.
[50:52] That's why.
[50:53] That's why.
[50:54] That's why.
[50:55] That's why.
[50:56] So, which one is it you disagree with?
[50:57] Then he paid a ridiculous salary, so that's why you're like, oh, the wages went down.
[50:58] Why is—
[50:59] Actually, wage growth hasn't gone up in 50 years.
[51:00] The median salary in this country hasn't gone up in 50 years.
[51:01] In fact, if it did, minimum wage should have been well over $20.
[51:04] Ten years ago!
[51:05] Will you support raising the minimum wage?
[51:06] No, I won't.
[51:07] Okay, pause.
[51:08] Didn't you care about wage growth?
[51:10] about wage growth no no that's not that's not what we're discussing but hey my next
[51:18] surrounding claim is that doge was a complete and total failure you're pretty quick phillip
[51:26] thank you sir it's an honor and pleasure thank you so much for having me uh yes so the claim
[51:30] being that doge was a complete and total failure i have difficulty imagining that that's true
[51:35] because and i am coming at this as an anti-statist i'm a very strong proprietarian believe in private
[51:40] property rights but i will say i read all these stories and i expect they're at least somewhat
[51:45] accurate that um the u.s state department was running global programs all over the world for
[51:50] you know all kinds of absurdities like they were promoting uh transgenderism in places like nigeria
[51:54] where the people clearly don't want it the people of nigeria are often very conservative they don't
[51:59] agree with this stuff they're promoting well they were doing it through like education programs
[52:03] primarily targeted at younger university students because they're trying to take hold of the youth
[52:07] government was funding the state department yes yeah like like gender ideology education programs
[52:15] yeah they're trying to teach people in the third world stuff that came out of the princeton faculty
[52:19] lounges like their 74 genders and things of that nature so there's a class that's funded by the
[52:24] united states state department oh in pakistan in afghanistan or in nigeria yeah these deeply
[52:31] conservative cultures that uh the uh ivy league educated people that run the u.s state department
[52:36] they want to convert it into an ivy league faculty lounge you know that's what they want to do
[52:41] so you know they spread all this this you know cultural marxist uh you know propaganda all
[52:45] over the world and they try to uh the the core goal of it the end goal is to undermine the family
[52:50] you know is to undermine traditional family and traditional faith you know that's their goal so
[52:55] they want to do that in places that are very conservative and family oriented like nigeria
[52:59] and well i mean pakistan might be family oriented in the way why do you think that if this is true
[53:06] why do you think that they would want to do that uh well because the ultimate the end goal is to
[53:10] undermine the family and to undermine traditional faith because if they make it so that the united
[53:15] states government was trying to undermine absolutely oh the the united states government
[53:19] historically like i would say for at least uh since at least the beginning of the cold war if
[53:23] not even uh you know before that they've been some of the chief promoters of uh of cultural marxism
[53:29] and uh you know policies and ideologies and philosophies that are designed to undermine
[53:33] traditional faith and traditional family throughout the world uh so you know oh yeah
[53:37] absolutely no the u.s government overwhelmingly especially for the past uh like probably three
[53:41] generations of americans it's overwhelmingly been a force for global evil right
[53:45] really it's it's an evil empire that's really interesting to me because the last time i
[53:50] checked i think the doge was created to cut spending in the united states yes and what
[53:55] has happened depending on who you ask seven billion dollars two billion dollars somewhere
[54:02] between there yeah is that number it's a drop in the bucket do you know what that total percentage
[54:06] of that is the united states budget oh it's uh it wouldn't surprise me if it's below two percent
[54:12] like point one percent yeah yeah no from a fiscal standpoint
[54:15] it was uh it was certainly a failure but what i'm saying is from a culture war standpoint i think
[54:19] there were some success cutting spending for americans in our country right it was a complete
[54:25] and total failure uh close to a total failure yeah when it comes to actually cutting spending
[54:29] uh i was i guess i guess then yeah we would agree uh on the fiscal level yes not necessarily on the
[54:35] culture i'm glad we could agree oh yeah yeah or not necessarily on the um uh on the broader
[54:39] because philosophical because what also happened as a result of this was spending the trump
[54:46] went and pushed even further wasteful spending like for example the billion dollars that they're
[54:52] about to spend are currently spending to rename the department of war i would say that's a pretty
[54:57] wasteful group of spending yeah i would say it probably is a billion dollars to retrofit
[55:02] a plane from cutter yeah you know i mean i don't that's pretty wasteful republicans are very
[55:07] wasteful spenders too you know they they certainly are there's no question i think we agree we we
[55:10] effectively uh and you might even agree with this too to a great extent we have a uniparty in this
[55:16] um the bottom line is that the real separation i would say between republicans and democrats is
[55:21] really on the culture war issues and this is where noam chomsky was correct he said that you know we
[55:26] reached a situation in america where the major parties have no choice but to run on culture war
[55:30] issues because um economically you know to a great degree that they're indistinguishable
[55:35] that's you know so well what is true is that we see these mass increases to the deficit and then
[55:40] for example the national debt when republicans take office largely because they blow a donut hole
[55:45] in the deficit
[55:46] i think that that's something that just needs to stop well i mean i'm anti-tax and anti-status so
[55:50] i don't think that anybody should pay taxes because i don't think that there should be taxes
[55:53] and i don't think there should be a state that has to be funded by taxes you don't think there should
[55:57] be any taxes uh no i think that society should be governed by voluntary private associations
[56:01] designed to protect private you fly here to los angeles no no i'm from around here if you can
[56:06] believe it so yeah yeah interesting yeah did you did you did you drive here i did i i uh i got
[56:14] driven here you got driven here on what yes on roads right
[56:16] oh yeah no i fully recognize that uh you know there's public amenities all around us and that
[56:20] in some way or other for you to drive here it takes what it takes funding to keep the roads
[56:25] well yes but i i've uh i've been forced to uh pay taxes to uh to fund the construction and
[56:30] maintenance of those roads the money has to come from somewhere yes yes it'll come from yeah okay
[56:36] thank you sir yes it's an honor and pleasure thank you thank you hi hi good to see you so i
[56:47] know gavin newsom is the leader for the democratic party right now that's who's going to be the nominee
[56:52] most likely and everyone's super excited about him but guess what i live in california where
[56:58] spending is out of control and the fact that nobody wants to even look into fraud and everyone
[57:03] is burning down teslas when elon musk was trying to help and he came in with good intention intentions
[57:09] is shocking to me gavin newsom cannot find right now 24 billion dollars that he spent on the
[57:15] homeless when actually they increase the homeless now by 20 percent because all they do is just keep
[57:21] building housing and i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know
[57:22] hiring developers these two developers now have been indicted because they've been spending all
[57:27] their money on coachella tickets and birkin bags private jets vacations you name it last time i
[57:34] checked i'm not really here to debate the record on gavin newsom and what happens in california
[57:39] i'm here to talk about doge and what has happened in the federal government and as a result of these
[57:45] policies you've cut maybe one pers point point one percent of the federal budget meanwhile you've
[57:52] just gone
[57:52] and spent everything else you now have for example like i said billion dollars to rename
[57:57] the department of war you now have for example the fact that they're spending money about 12
[58:02] billion dollars for farm subsidies because the tariffs were just that bad so it's all a wash
[58:06] so i don't really understand nobody how is it how is it how is it that you guys are actually cutting
[58:11] spending so he said that elon said that it was somewhat successful and the only reason he
[58:16] wouldn't do it again is because everyone burnt down his teslas and tried to destroy his i have
[58:21] a question for you
[58:22] it's much better to just start it i started a hundred to 200 million billion dollars in zombie
[58:27] payments is what he said i have a question yes did you get your two thousand dollar doge check
[58:32] the the from the tariffs from from doge as a result of all the spending which was supposed
[58:37] to happen there was supposed to be a two thousand dollar doge check did you get that no but they
[58:42] haven't said anything about they introduced something for that what who said that they
[58:45] were selling that i know we're supposed to be getting we'd be getting a check in the mail but
[58:49] nobody you guys went into this not letting him start do what he could to get him out of the room
[58:53] came there to do so you control anyone wants to be continued in the White
[58:57] House when I because happening in this government what do you mean you control
[59:05] the house mm-hmm the Senate mm-hmm in the White House okay and you still
[59:09] couldn't get it done could anyone work like that honestly having all guys did
[59:14] not let the guy in the White House villainized him control it all it's
[59:20] uncontrolled at all so what and you know I didn't get it done with your
[59:24] people you guys were doxing him and calling this guy big balls and going
[59:28] crazy about every single thing with doge doge was literally vilified but we were
[59:33] allowed to be audited by the IRS when Biden hired 80,000 IRS agents the random
[59:38] regular people ask you a question you know I'm sorry but if there's people
[59:41] doing fraud in the government you don't want to know about it how does a bill
[59:44] become a law do you know goes through Congress and so then what it has to go
[59:49] through both chambers of Congress okay
[59:50] okay
[59:51] so it's almost like you can do anything you want they managed to pass tax cuts
[1:00:02] for the richest people in America but they didn't manage to go get the checks
[1:00:05] that they promised the American it's almost like they're not even done yet
[1:00:11] honestly this the same way Trump got into office and everyone said price of
[1:00:16] eggs price of eggs within two days in office when the bird flu was around for
[1:00:19] three years before and no one said boo
[1:00:21] because here's what's so interesting about conservatives yes is that you run
[1:00:25] on all of these different things and in the second you don't do them yeah you
[1:00:30] expect that people will not hold you accountable no one said nobody's saying
[1:00:35] that no there in the real not so I didn't is that you walked around yeah and
[1:00:40] cut 0.1 percent of the federal budget didn't you spin over that with wasteful
[1:00:45] spending life
[1:00:47] I did that Christi Noem is spending for a new private jet
[1:00:51] to retrofit another Qatari Air Force One.
[1:00:54] You can always want to do that.
[1:00:55] But can we agree on something?
[1:00:56] Why?
[1:00:57] But can we agree on something?
[1:00:58] Is it okay to vilify Doge and Elon and all this stuff?
[1:01:02] Why wouldn't you want to know?
[1:01:04] From the get-go, everyone went crazy about Doge and all that.
[1:01:08] Why wouldn't you want to know if there's fraud?
[1:01:09] I know if my entire state, we don't know where the money's going.
[1:01:13] Our sidewalks are broken.
[1:01:15] There's potholes everywhere.
[1:01:16] All the homeless are trashing the street.
[1:01:19] Graffiti everywhere.
[1:01:20] I don't know where my taxes are going here.
[1:01:22] I live here.
[1:01:23] And he is your model.
[1:01:25] He's going to be the running for president.
[1:01:27] That's your model, right?
[1:01:28] Not Kamala.
[1:01:28] That's your model.
[1:01:29] So I don't understand.
[1:01:31] Why wouldn't you care?
[1:01:31] I think you should go and talk to those folks in California.
[1:01:33] I do.
[1:01:33] But ultimately, I'm here to talk about Doge.
[1:01:38] And the reality is that Doge was a-
[1:01:40] Did you want Doge to start?
[1:01:42] Did you want Doge to start?
[1:01:43] I support government efficiency.
[1:01:44] Actually, I do.
[1:01:45] I think that if we-
[1:01:46] Did you condemn the burning of the Teslas and all that?
[1:01:49] Let's talk about this.
[1:01:49] Mm-hmm.
[1:01:50] I believe that government needs to be more efficient.
[1:01:53] I think that everybody should-
[1:01:54] Barack Obama was somebody that supported a lot of that.
[1:01:56] Yeah.
[1:01:56] But that's not what you did.
[1:01:58] Why so?
[1:01:58] You added more bureaucracy across the board.
[1:02:00] You then meant to go and spend more money than you allegedly cut.
[1:02:03] You lied about the money that you were cutting before you got called out before NPR.
[1:02:08] But it's only been a couple months of administration.
[1:02:08] You guys-
[1:02:09] I wish you guys held the Biden administration-
[1:02:10] You fired Elon Musk.
[1:02:11] You fired him.
[1:02:12] I wish you held-
[1:02:13] You literally told Elon to go home.
[1:02:15] Inflation was transitory.
[1:02:15] Inflation was transitory.
[1:02:16] You literally sent Elon to go home.
[1:02:19] You literally sent Elon to go home.
[1:02:19] Elon had to go home because no one let the guy-
[1:02:21] So then he didn't do the work?
[1:02:22] You wanted to destroy his-
[1:02:23] Okay.
[1:02:24] You guys don't let anyone do anything.
[1:02:26] Literally.
[1:02:26] You control the House of Senate and the White House.
[1:02:29] But that's irrelevant.
[1:02:30] So we can go back to immigration then because why don't you guys pass laws on immigration
[1:02:34] after four years of Biden when they told us he was-
[1:02:36] You literally-
[1:02:37] They told us he was healthy and-
[1:02:38] You literally did not go and do what you promised.
[1:02:42] You didn't.
[1:02:42] But we're not done yet.
[1:02:44] You fired Elon.
[1:02:46] He's gone.
[1:02:48] We're done.
[1:02:48] Thank you so much.
[1:02:50] Thank you.
[1:02:56] What's up, man?
[1:02:57] Scotty.
[1:02:57] Nice to meet you.
[1:02:59] Scotty Pippen.
[1:03:00] Yep.
[1:03:00] Come on now.
[1:03:01] Honestly, I kind of want to start off like, why was Doge even in this?
[1:03:03] Honestly, when we all saw the prompts, I went, what the heck?
[1:03:06] Why are we-
[1:03:06] Nobody talks about Doge anymore, right?
[1:03:08] I think we both can agree, right, that I do think Trump shouldn't be spending those things
[1:03:11] on the Department of War, right?
[1:03:13] Shouldn't be spending all that money, right?
[1:03:14] But Democrats did the exact same thing.
[1:03:16] And when you look at Doge, the core of it was good.
[1:03:19] We're trying to get rid of government spending.
[1:03:21] That was the whole point, right?
[1:03:23] And so when you look at your prompt, can you say your prompt again one more time for me?
[1:03:25] Doge was a complete and total failure.
[1:03:27] Complete and total failure.
[1:03:28] Now, can I look at you and say, Doge was a complete success?
[1:03:30] No, I can't, right?
[1:03:31] But your rhetoric, when you say that prompt, right, is totally misguiding for us, right?
[1:03:35] What are we supposed to say to that, right?
[1:03:37] And now you did say, right, it said, what was it, 0.1% that we were saved in?
[1:03:40] What was supposed to happen as a result?
[1:03:41] I don't exactly know the number that they had said or anything, but we're supposed to
[1:03:44] cut government spending, right?
[1:03:46] Didn't they say initial-
[1:03:47] Did any government spending get cut?
[1:03:48] Wait a second.
[1:03:48] You said it.
[1:03:49] Wait a second.
[1:03:49] Did any government funding get cut?
[1:03:50] No, because you then spent more than what you cut.
[1:03:53] 0.1%.
[1:03:53] You cut 0.1%, then you went and bought private jets, you retrofitted another Air Force One,
[1:03:58] you renamed the Department of War.
[1:03:59] Okay, that's like, okay.
[1:03:59] So it's almost like that's a wash.
[1:04:01] And I remind you, the national debt is set to increase this year by $2.3 trillion.
[1:04:06] Okay.
[1:04:07] So-
[1:04:08] Okay, but where does that-
[1:04:09] And so, by the way-
[1:04:11] Trillion dollars and you say like a $500 million jet, that's like paper money right there.
[1:04:14] So that's what I'm saying.
[1:04:15] So the peanuts on the budget that you cut has literally already been absorbed by other things.
[1:04:22] If you made $50,000, this was-
[1:04:24] Okay.
[1:04:24] This would be the equivalent of celebrating a $50 situation.
[1:04:28] I mean, so look, let's talk about what's happening in this country, is that you guys ran on cutting
[1:04:34] $2 trillion, then it turned to $200 billion.
[1:04:38] That's nowhere close to being reality.
[1:04:40] So that whole situation was a failure.
[1:04:42] If we're talking about Doge as itself, it didn't happen.
[1:04:45] It did happen, right?
[1:04:47] We had Elon.
[1:04:47] What do you mean it didn't happen?
[1:04:49] It did happen, right?
[1:04:49] You didn't deliver on what you promised.
[1:04:50] Exactly.
[1:04:51] No.
[1:04:51] I can agree with you, right?
[1:04:52] Did we cut $2 trillion?
[1:04:54] No.
[1:04:54] No, we didn't.
[1:04:54] Did you cut $2 trillion?
[1:04:55] We cut $200 billion.
[1:04:56] But Trump tried, right?
[1:04:57] He ran on it because he saw how bad Biden was at the government spending, right?
[1:05:01] He tried and he failed.
[1:05:01] And he ran there, right?
[1:05:02] He tried and he failed.
[1:05:03] I don't think it's necessarily a failure, right?
[1:05:05] When you try, like, does Trump have to be perfect in everything that he does?
[1:05:08] He didn't even get to a fraction of what he said.
[1:05:09] No, he doesn't have to be actually perfect, right?
[1:05:12] But it's the whole point of him going there trying to cut government spending from the start.
[1:05:15] But government spending increased.
[1:05:17] The government's spending more money than they did last year.
[1:05:19] That's according to the Treasury.
[1:05:21] Well, okay, like, okay, break that down then.
[1:05:22] Okay, no, but break that down, right?
[1:05:24] What do you mean break that down?
[1:05:25] No, but why is the government spending going up?
[1:05:27] I mean, I'm just telling you, because if the whole idea was to go cut spending in the United States federal budget, that did not happen.
[1:05:35] It didn't happen.
[1:05:35] You're spending more.
[1:05:38] I mean, I don't know what you want me to, like, say, though, right?
[1:05:41] I want you to just say, I just want you to say.
[1:05:44] Your prompt from the beginning is just dumb.
[1:05:45] And that can be your argument all you want.
[1:05:50] That can be your argument all you want.
[1:05:52] That doesn't change the fact that Doge was a complete and total failure.
[1:05:55] And you're here to debate me.
[1:05:56] And the reality is, is that it failed.
[1:05:58] We wanted to cut government spending, right?
[1:06:01] Wait a second.
[1:06:01] Wanted to.
[1:06:02] Wait a second, wait a second.
[1:06:04] You tried to do it.
[1:06:05] So I guess you want a participation trophy, don't you?
[1:06:07] Okay, so did Biden cut government spending?
[1:06:09] You want a participation trophy?
[1:06:10] Did Biden cut government spending?
[1:06:12] Did Obama cut government spending?
[1:06:13] You want a cookie?
[1:06:14] Did Bush cut government spending?
[1:06:15] What was the deficit?
[1:06:15] That's the problem.
[1:06:16] Republicans want less government control.
[1:06:18] That's the whole difference between you.
[1:06:20] Democrats want bigger government control.
[1:06:22] In 2016, can you tell me around, you don't got to be perfect, what the deficit was in this country?
[1:06:28] Can you tell me what that number was?
[1:06:29] Like the national debt?
[1:06:31] Yes, the deficit.
[1:06:32] No, the deficit.
[1:06:33] The deficit, budget deficit in this country.
[1:06:35] No, actually, no, tell me.
[1:06:36] It was around the $500 billion range.
[1:06:39] 2016.
[1:06:40] Yes, 2016.
[1:06:41] Okay.
[1:06:42] That number is now 2.3 trillion.
[1:06:45] Okay, so let's look at the factors of why that happened.
[1:06:46] 1.8 trillion on the deficit, 2.3 trillion.
[1:06:47] Let's look at the factors.
[1:06:48] Yeah, because you guys went and signed in 2017 the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which ballooned the deficit.
[1:06:53] It continued.
[1:06:54] It was a long piece of legislation.
[1:06:55] It continued throughout Biden's presidency.
[1:06:57] Okay, yeah.
[1:06:58] You just went and approved literally to extend those same tax cuts to now add $3.4 trillion in national debt.
[1:07:04] My whole point about why I'm talking about this is because Doge did not go and do the things that it promised.
[1:07:09] It said that it was going to cut spending.
[1:07:11] It didn't happen.
[1:07:12] I think that you conservatives should just own up to the fact that it was a failure.
[1:07:15] Okay, say.
[1:07:16] Thank you.
[1:07:18] What's up?
[1:07:19] Jessica.
[1:07:26] Good to see you.
[1:07:27] Okay, so I think Doge didn't do as much as we wanted it to do, and I think part of it had to do with the fact that
[1:07:33] Elon Musk had to be out of the office.
[1:07:34] Elon Musk had to be out of the office in 120 days in the administration because he wasn't a government employee.
[1:07:40] I think part of that also has to do with the fact that Biden increased to almost $1.9, but $2 trillion in our national debt.
[1:07:48] And he was the one who printed 40% of the dollars circulating in America right now in 2022, which created more inflation, which created more spending in our government.
[1:08:00] We also were spending and paying for people to have transportation.
[1:08:03] We were spending and paying for people to have transgender balls in places like Europe.
[1:08:08] Where is that happening?
[1:08:10] Well, it's not happening anymore because we cut USAID.
[1:08:12] Where was that happening?
[1:08:14] Well, it was happening.
[1:08:15] Where?
[1:08:16] I can't remember the exact country, but I know that I-
[1:08:17] You don't know the country, but you say that it's happening?
[1:08:18] It happened is what I said.
[1:08:19] It happened?
[1:08:20] It did happen.
[1:08:21] Yeah.
[1:08:22] Where?
[1:08:23] I don't think it happened.
[1:08:24] I'm sure when you rewatch it, you can look it up.
[1:08:25] That didn't happen.
[1:08:26] It did happen.
[1:08:27] It did happen, yeah.
[1:08:28] We had funding for things that are outside of the country for transgender balls, transgender plays.
[1:08:33] Transgender balls?
[1:08:34] Yes, they exist.
[1:08:35] Okay.
[1:08:36] As well as condoms for places like in the Middle East.
[1:08:44] Do you know why that is?
[1:08:47] Why we paid for condoms for other countries?
[1:08:49] Yeah.
[1:08:50] Do you know why that is?
[1:08:51] Go ahead and tell me.
[1:08:52] To prevent the spread of AIDS.
[1:08:53] Well, maybe they should, to prevent the spread of AIDS.
[1:08:55] Don't you think that if we can prevent the spread of AIDS, that that helps the world?
[1:08:59] I think that we should probably-
[1:09:00] Americans in this country?
[1:09:01] I think that financially-
[1:09:02] Because I would say that something that can spread across borders, something like AIDS,
[1:09:06] keeping that down is a really good thing for America.
[1:09:08] Well, it doesn't spread across borders if we keep the people who aren't supposed to be
[1:09:11] here out of our country.
[1:09:12] People who don't get on planes and travel?
[1:09:14] So someone doesn't go visit, so an American citizen doesn't go to a place in the Middle
[1:09:18] East like you're describing and then come back to America?
[1:09:20] That doesn't happen?
[1:09:21] So preventing the spread of those, of AIDS in their countries can help us prevent the
[1:09:25] spread in our country.
[1:09:26] Why don't we not pay for other countries' healthcare and we pay for our healthcare considering
[1:09:33] our healthcare because of Obamacare just this year?
[1:09:35] Obamacare just this year is about to spike because it got pushed off artificially by
[1:09:40] the Biden administration.
[1:09:41] He artificially pushed off a lot of things.
[1:09:44] I'm sure we could talk about healthcare until we're blue in the face, right?
[1:09:47] But that's not what we're talking about.
[1:09:49] We're talking about the fact that Doge-
[1:09:50] You think we should prioritize paying for condoms in other countries?
[1:09:53] And you just approved more dollars to national debt than any other president in the history
[1:09:56] of this country.
[1:09:57] Congratulations.
[1:09:58] I didn't do anything.
[1:09:59] Well, that's what Donald Trump did.
[1:10:00] That's what the Republicans you voted for did.
[1:10:02] The reality is-
[1:10:03] Do you know how much it increased under Biden?
[1:10:04] $900 billion.
[1:10:05] If Doge was to exist-
[1:10:06] $900 billion.
[1:10:07] If Doge was to exist to go and cut spending for the American people, that did not happen.
[1:10:12] And might I remind you, if you want to go talk about the amount of debt approved by
[1:10:16] each president, Donald Trump approved during his whole term, $8.4 trillion.
[1:10:20] If you want to talk about what he approved in terms of without COVID-related spending,
[1:10:24] that's about $4.8 trillion within his first term.
[1:10:26] Joe Biden approved $4 trillion total, $2.4 trillion of which happened of non-COVID-related
[1:10:31] spending.
[1:10:32] The result of it, it doesn't matter what you're talking about.
[1:10:34] Because Joe Biden approved half the amount of debt than your savior Donald Trump did.
[1:10:38] I don't consider him my savior.
[1:10:39] That's a fact.
[1:10:40] Jesus Christ is my savior.
[1:10:41] Let's make that clear.
[1:10:43] Donald Trump, I don't think Donald Trump is a Republican personally.
[1:10:46] I think he's a Democrat and he's probably-
[1:10:48] Oh, now he's a Democrat.
[1:10:49] Oh, okay.
[1:10:50] Yeah, he always has been.
[1:10:51] It's news for me.
[1:10:52] Really?
[1:10:53] Maybe you shouldn't-
[1:10:54] He just ran for president as a Republican, what, three times?
[1:10:55] He's like-
[1:10:56] Yeah, to win.
[1:10:57] To win.
[1:10:58] So he's not a Republican, but he ran as a Republican?
[1:10:59] What has he spent his whole life doing?
[1:11:00] He's literally, so people can't change?
[1:11:02] People can't change.
[1:11:03] So you're now saying that Donald Trump is a Republican?
[1:11:04] Yeah.
[1:11:05] Donald Trump is not a Republican.
[1:11:06] That's news to me.
[1:11:07] Yeah, I don't think he is a Republican.
[1:11:08] I think that would be news for the majority of Americans that are watching him literally
[1:11:12] just run for president as a Republican three times.
[1:11:15] You can register as a Republican because you can win as a Republican.
[1:11:18] He's openly said, I would register as an independent, but I'm not an independent and I won't win
[1:11:21] as one.
[1:11:22] Or do you think that they're just trying to win?
[1:11:23] I just think that it's alarming to me that we're now in 2025 and your argument is about
[1:11:30] whether or not Trump is a real Republican.
[1:11:31] That's not my argument.
[1:11:32] Because you're trying to deflect from the fact that Trump didn't do what he said he
[1:11:35] was going to do with Doe.
[1:11:36] If you promise to go cut $2 trillion worth of spending and that does not happen, that's
[1:11:40] something that you have to be held accountable for.
[1:11:42] When you run on an idea of cutting $200 billion worth, that's something that you have to answer
[1:11:46] for.
[1:11:47] And for the millions of people in this country that actually thought that you guys were going
[1:11:50] to deliver them Doe's checks, they're going to be waiting for it because you're not going
[1:11:53] to actually do it.
[1:11:54] You know what?
[1:11:55] I don't think a lot of people expected that because Trump isn't Biden who is handing out
[1:11:58] $2,000 to people for sitting at home-
[1:12:00] That never happened.
[1:12:01] Or saying you don't have to...
[1:12:03] I got a check.
[1:12:04] Oh, you're talking about this?
[1:12:05] You're talking about the-
[1:12:06] The stimulus check?
[1:12:07] The stimulus check?
[1:12:08] That Trump also gave?
[1:12:09] I don't agree with stimulus checks.
[1:12:10] So what are you talking about?
[1:12:12] What are you talking...
[1:12:13] Because Doe's made these promises about a Doe's check.
[1:12:16] What are you talking about?
[1:12:17] Doe's made the promises about a Doe's check?
[1:12:18] Yes, Elon made these promises.
[1:12:19] Okay, well, Elon's not my president.
[1:12:20] And the same thing with Donald Trump.
[1:12:21] Elon's not my president.
[1:12:22] Donald Trump also said that he would support that as well.
[1:12:23] What are you talking about?
[1:12:24] If it was available.
[1:12:25] He said he would support it.
[1:12:26] Oh, if it was available?
[1:12:27] That's what it is now?
[1:12:28] Yeah.
[1:12:29] Yes.
[1:12:30] What's so funny...
[1:12:31] What's so funny about this whole thing...
[1:12:32] Okay.
[1:12:33] Give me a laugh.
[1:12:34] What's so funny about this whole thing...
[1:12:35] What's so funny about this whole thing...
[1:12:36] What's so funny about this whole thing...
[1:12:37] Is that you guys can never take personal responsibility.
[1:12:38] Says the people...
[1:12:39] Says the...
[1:12:40] You can't do it.
[1:12:41] I'm really sorry.
[1:12:42] But I can't hear that from the side of the aisle that is pro-choice, who can't even take
[1:12:45] accountability for who goes to...
[1:12:46] You'll do anything.
[1:12:47] You'll do anything to distract from Doe's.
[1:12:50] You'll do anything to distract...
[1:12:51] To distract?
[1:12:52] What are you talking about?
[1:12:53] Because that's what we're talking about.
[1:12:54] Okay.
[1:12:55] I'm sorry.
[1:12:56] You've tried to move the conversation a million different places.
[1:12:57] But the facts are is that you cannot answer for the fact that you didn't go cut the spending
[1:13:01] that you're talking about.
[1:13:02] The government of the United States is spending more money than it did last year.
[1:13:06] That's a fact that you can't run out of.
[1:13:08] So they didn't decrease spending.
[1:13:09] I guess I wouldn't know the exact number.
[1:13:10] Why don't you enlighten me?
[1:13:11] So we didn't decrease spending.
[1:13:12] What's the exact number?
[1:13:13] Can you tell me?
[1:13:14] The national debt's going up by $2.3 trillion, deficit 1.8.
[1:13:18] You don't even know that.
[1:13:19] But that was already projected to do so.
[1:13:21] Even before Trump was in office, economists said we were going to go into recession and
[1:13:25] we were going too high in our spending.
[1:13:26] It was already happening.
[1:13:27] And things that are happening...
[1:13:28] So you ran a campaign on cutting spending.
[1:13:30] I didn't run any campaign.
[1:13:31] And things that are happening right now...
[1:13:33] Inflation takes 12 to 13...
[1:13:34] We're talking about Doge and spending.
[1:13:36] What are you talking about?
[1:13:37] I'm talking about the price.
[1:13:38] You're the one who brought in the amount of spending we're doing this year.
[1:13:41] And honestly...
[1:13:42] Because that's what the argument that we're talking about is.
[1:13:44] You can't deflect from this.
[1:13:45] I'm not deflecting.
[1:13:46] I'm showing you.
[1:13:47] You're spending more money than what you...
[1:13:48] We're...
[1:13:49] Everything that's happening now in our economy is because of the pushback.
[1:13:54] We're talking about Doge.
[1:13:55] Stay focused.
[1:13:56] Pause.
[1:13:57] Pause.
[1:13:58] We're out of time on this one.
[1:13:59] Thank you.
[1:14:06] My final surrounding claim is that Trump is terrible for the economy.
[1:14:09] What's up, brother?
[1:14:16] So I want to speak about all of your claims at once, since I think they all tie into each
[1:14:20] other.
[1:14:21] We're talking about the economy.
[1:14:22] You think Trump is horrible for the economy.
[1:14:23] You think Trump is doing more for the wealthy than for rich people.
[1:14:27] You think Doge was a failure.
[1:14:29] You think Trump's immigration plan is horrible.
[1:14:31] We're talking about the economy.
[1:14:33] Let's make sure that we...
[1:14:34] Let's.
[1:14:35] All right.
[1:14:36] So we can speak about the economy.
[1:14:38] But we've only been talking about the economy so far.
[1:14:42] You think that regular people care about gas prices, about grocery prices, about...
[1:14:46] Energy bills.
[1:14:48] I think regular people care about not being burnt alive on a subway, like Bethany McKee.
[1:14:54] I think they care about not being stabbed in the neck, like Irina Zaretska.
[1:14:58] I think they don't want people like Daniel Penny to be made into political prisoners
[1:15:03] for defending innocent people from criminals who've sometimes been let out 72 times by
[1:15:11] Democrats.
[1:15:13] So we can talk about the economy, but don't you think that crime is far more important?
[1:15:19] And crime is a crime.
[1:15:20] Do you think that Trump is doing far better on crime than Joe Biden ever did, than any
[1:15:23] Democrat ever did?
[1:15:24] Okay.
[1:15:25] I'm going to step in here.
[1:15:26] Right.
[1:15:27] Every instance of crime should be prosecuted.
[1:15:28] I believe that.
[1:15:29] Democrats support that.
[1:15:30] But that's not the subject.
[1:15:31] We can have a whole long conversation about crime.
[1:15:35] What I'm here to talk about is the fact that our economy is not moving in the right direction.
[1:15:40] We see that every single day.
[1:15:41] Why do you say that?
[1:15:43] They say that inflation is going up, energy bills are going up left and right.
[1:15:46] It's certainly not a good thing.
[1:15:47] Look at what's happening to the farmers, for example.
[1:15:50] We now have to go pay $12 billion.
[1:15:51] $12 billion.
[1:15:51] $12 billion to effectively subsidize them because the tariffs were not good for us.
[1:15:57] Well, I'm going to still go back to what I was saying.
[1:16:00] Brother, we're talking about the economy.
[1:16:02] We've spoken enough about the economy.
[1:16:03] We're not having it.
[1:16:04] We're not.
[1:16:05] We've spoken for the past 45 minutes about the economy.
[1:16:06] Well, that's the debate that we're having.
[1:16:08] You're trying to change the subject.
[1:16:10] I don't know if you're unprepared about the prompts that's in front of us, but what we're
[1:16:14] talking about today-
[1:16:15] You think I'm unprepared about the prompts?
[1:16:16] Let's talk about all three of the prompts.
[1:16:17] You seem to not want to talk about the economy.
[1:16:18] Let's talk about all the prompts together.
[1:16:19] You seem to not want to talk about the economy.
[1:16:20] Why do we speak about all the prompts together?
[1:16:21] Pause.
[1:16:22] All right.
[1:16:23] You're voted out by the majority.
[1:16:33] Please return to your seat.
[1:16:34] I bet you run a million hundred.
[1:16:35] I don't.
[1:16:36] All right.
[1:16:38] It's nice to-
[1:16:39] Faster than Trump, probably.
[1:16:40] Maybe.
[1:16:41] He's a little old.
[1:16:42] A little.
[1:16:43] You keep citing this figure of 2.7% inflation on the night of the election.
[1:16:47] You've also repeatedly said that inflation is up.
[1:16:50] It's actually, as of a couple of days ago, averaging at 2.7%, so you've kind of defeated
[1:16:54] yourself there.
[1:16:55] That's not true.
[1:16:56] That's true.
[1:16:57] That was published two days ago by the White House.
[1:16:58] Core inflation in this country is about 3.1%, and besides, they refuse-
[1:17:01] Average inflation is currently 2.7%.
[1:17:02] And by the way, they refuse to release inflation reports for a very long time, so I don't know
[1:17:07] what you're talking about with that.
[1:17:10] San fact check.
[1:17:11] People will see.
[1:17:12] I guess they will.
[1:17:13] But average spending for ordinary Americans, prices are actually going down for staple
[1:17:18] goods.
[1:17:19] Bread, down.
[1:17:20] Pasta, down.
[1:17:21] Shrimp, down.
[1:17:22] Again, statistics-
[1:17:23] Beef.
[1:17:24] It came out like two days ago.
[1:17:25] I don't know about beef.
[1:17:26] Beef is-
[1:17:27] Chicken's down.
[1:17:28] Eggs are down.
[1:17:29] I don't know about beef.
[1:17:30] So what's happening across the board is why you got to look at things as an average.
[1:17:31] Inflation is up.
[1:17:32] Core inflation-
[1:17:33] No, it's not.
[1:17:34] It's down.
[1:17:35] It's at minimum, it's the same as it was.
[1:17:37] It's about 3.1%-
[1:17:38] No, that's just not true.
[1:17:39] It's 2.7%.
[1:17:40] And the reality is, here's what's also happening in this country.
[1:17:43] When you have to go and you have to go give $12 billion as farm bailouts, as a result
[1:17:47] of policies that are hurting our farmers across this country, those bailouts that are being
[1:17:51] used-
[1:17:52] To begin with, you're a Democrat.
[1:17:53] You do not support farmer subsidies.
[1:17:54] I'd be surprised if that were the case.
[1:17:56] Farmers also need subsidies because they just lost a huge amount of an illegal slave class
[1:18:01] that was making their labor extremely cheap.
[1:18:03] They need to be able to subsidize that cost to make that payment possible.
[1:18:06] So you realize what's happening as a result of-
[1:18:09] What do farmers import?
[1:18:10] They're growing things here.
[1:18:11] Hold on.
[1:18:12] Wait a second.
[1:18:13] What's happening right now is that the inputs that are used by all of these farmers to grow
[1:18:16] their crops across this country are costing more money as a result of the tariffs that
[1:18:21] have been put in place.
[1:18:22] That does what to their production costs?
[1:18:23] It makes things go up, right?
[1:18:25] I don't know what gets tariffs on farmers.
[1:18:27] I'm sorry.
[1:18:28] Potash is something that was consistently tariffed?
[1:18:31] We can probably start making that here.
[1:18:32] I mean, we could-
[1:18:33] Well, the majority of our potash comes from places like Canada.
[1:18:36] What are you talking about?
[1:18:37] We could start making it here.
[1:18:38] But that's not the argument that we're having.
[1:18:40] Do you want manufacturing to go up by producing that here?
[1:18:42] That's not the argument that we're having.
[1:18:44] The argument is that-
[1:18:45] It's an economic argument.
[1:18:46] The argument is that what you guys did by putting these tariffs in place made things
[1:18:49] more expensive.
[1:18:50] And now we have to go put a Band-Aid on these things by going up and putting $12 billion
[1:18:55] worth of farm subsidies directly as a result of as a bailout because of the policies that
[1:18:59] you guys enacted.
[1:19:00] You don't oppose bailouts.
[1:19:01] I'm confused why you're bringing this up.
[1:19:02] Because the farm...
[1:19:03] The whole reason why we're having to do an Emergency Farm Subsidy Act effectively is
[1:19:08] because of the fact that you guys artificially raised the cost of everything that farmers
[1:19:12] have to do.
[1:19:13] They're struggling right now.
[1:19:14] There are more bankruptcies-
[1:19:15] I think they would need that money anyways because there has been a huge portion of people
[1:19:18] which are not showing up to work.
[1:19:19] I just want to make sure that you understand this point very clearly, that we had more
[1:19:23] bankruptcies in the first quarter of this year for farmers than all of last year.
[1:19:27] The Small Business Index actually reports that small businesses are highly optimistic
[1:19:31] right now.
[1:19:32] We're talking about the amount of bankruptcies.
[1:19:33] That's right.
[1:19:34] We're talking about the amount of bankruptcies that were happening in this country as a result
[1:19:36] of the first quarter of this year, or more than all of last year.
[1:19:40] That's a fact.
[1:19:41] If you go and you ask these farmers whether or not they would want this emergency bill,
[1:19:45] they would tell you no.
[1:19:46] They would say just release the tariffs that are destroying their businesses.
[1:19:48] Well, farmers also want really cheap labor and I don't because I believe in what's
[1:19:51] best for the country and not what's best for big businesses and huge business farms that
[1:19:55] do that.
[1:19:56] The unemployment rate for American citizens is going up.
[1:19:58] It takes time.
[1:20:01] We just fired a ton of people.
[1:20:02] Oh, so now it takes time.
[1:20:03] It does.
[1:20:04] We're in year one.
[1:20:05] The point is, is that the policies that you guys are pushing are not delivering the results.
[1:20:09] You guys are making things more-
[1:20:10] We're getting a lot of money from tariffs, actually.
[1:20:14] What's your argument for that?
[1:20:15] What's your argument?
[1:20:17] Isn't-
[1:20:18] We're making a lot of money off of it.
[1:20:19] That's the sort of stuff we can use to subsidize the farmers.
[1:20:21] What's happening to the deficit?
[1:20:23] Probably going up because, again, I want ICE to have funding.
[1:20:26] The amount of funding that ICE has received as an increase is not less than the amount
[1:20:32] of tariffs that you brought in.
[1:20:33] By the way, who pays the tariff?
[1:20:34] Importer.
[1:20:35] It's all of us.
[1:20:36] The importer is the one that pays it and then they pass it.
[1:20:38] Yeah.
[1:20:39] Directly to the consumer.
[1:20:40] They can, yeah.
[1:20:41] So you're bragging-
[1:20:42] Importers buy these things and they sell it to us.
[1:20:43] So is the thing-
[1:20:44] I don't think things should be easy for big businesses.
[1:20:45] So is the thing in front of us-
[1:20:46] I think it should be easy for normal people who want to get jobs around here.
[1:20:49] So is the question in front of us about whether or not you support American people basically
[1:20:54] paying for the largest tax increase in recent American history?
[1:20:57] You are supporting big businesses by doing this.
[1:20:59] What?
[1:21:00] Tariffs hurt big businesses.
[1:21:02] Tariffs hurt small farmers as well.
[1:21:04] That's why we had more bankruptcies for small farmers in the first quarter of this year
[1:21:07] than everywhere else.
[1:21:08] We're getting money from tariffs which can then pay those farmers through their subsidies.
[1:21:09] Well, not if they can't afford to keep their farms because you guys literally have
[1:21:13] a situation in place where you're increasing bankruptcies left and right.
[1:21:16] Farms aren't closing.
[1:21:18] We literally had more bankruptcies in the first quarter of this year than all of last
[1:21:21] year.
[1:21:22] Pause.
[1:21:23] We'll move on to the next debater.
[1:21:24] Thank you.
[1:21:25] Thank you.
[1:21:33] Nice to meet you guys.
[1:21:34] How's it going?
[1:21:35] Good to see you.
[1:21:36] Hi, brother.
[1:21:37] All right.
[1:21:38] So I guess on the economy point, do you want to talk about tariffs or do you want to talk
[1:21:39] about the one big beautiful bill?
[1:21:40] Because those were kind of the two biggest points.
[1:21:41] What tariffs?
[1:21:42] What do you want to talk about?
[1:21:43] Sure.
[1:21:44] So I guess on tariffs, I mean, do you think that it is a good thing that other countries
[1:21:47] have tariffs?
[1:21:47] On the United States and that those are allowed to go unchecked?
[1:21:50] I think that when it comes to the American consumer, you guys raise people's prices by
[1:21:54] putting tariffs in place.
[1:21:55] I mean, that wasn't the question I asked.
[1:21:56] I think that's the result of the policies that you push.
[1:21:58] Okay.
[1:21:59] So would you agree that it is a bad thing that other countries have tariffs on the United
[1:22:02] States?
[1:22:03] It depends.
[1:22:04] I don't think.
[1:22:05] Okay.
[1:22:06] Well, I guess I don't think it's a good thing for our businesses that they have to be charged
[1:22:09] to export their industries to other countries.
[1:22:11] I think that is a better thing for American business to boom if we get other countries
[1:22:15] like we've seen in the UK and with EU trade agreements.
[1:22:17] New trade agreements being negotiated out so that we can get other countries to take
[1:22:21] their tariffs off of us.
[1:22:22] And that was the original point of the tariffs.
[1:22:24] Did the United Kingdom take their tariffs off of us?
[1:22:26] We had a new trade agreement that had them lower their tariffs on the United States.
[1:22:28] Did they take them off?
[1:22:29] They lowered them.
[1:22:30] So let me ask you a question.
[1:22:31] Sure.
[1:22:33] What would be the purpose of enacting tariffs on a country like Canada?
[1:22:36] On Canada?
[1:22:37] Well, you want to protect certain industries and Canada also has a lot of tariffs on the
[1:22:40] United States and to get them to have a trade agreement with the United States on that.
[1:22:44] I don't think it's a...
[1:22:45] Didn't we have free trade with Canada?
[1:22:46] I don't think it's a...
[1:22:47] No.
[1:22:48] What was the United States-Mexico-Canada agreement?
[1:22:50] Yeah, that wasn't in effect when Donald Trump took office.
[1:22:53] Who negotiated the United States-Mexico-Canada agreement?
[1:22:56] I don't think it's...
[1:22:57] Who negotiated it?
[1:22:58] It's not a good thing.
[1:22:59] Who negotiated it?
[1:23:00] It's not a good thing.
[1:23:01] Do you know what it is?
[1:23:02] It is not a good thing when other countries are...
[1:23:03] Do you know what it is?
[1:23:04] You don't know what it is, do you?
[1:23:05] Yes, I do.
[1:23:06] What is it?
[1:23:07] Explain it.
[1:23:08] Yeah, it was a trade agreement with the United States that overturned the previous NAFTA
[1:23:09] agreement.
[1:23:10] And so what did it do?
[1:23:11] It established the parameters for...
[1:23:13] So who negotiated it?
[1:23:14] It was Donald Trump.
[1:23:15] So Donald Trump negotiated the USMCA.
[1:23:16] Yeah, and yeah, we need to re...
[1:23:17] The free trade agreement that was governing over the United States.
[1:23:19] Again, it wasn't free trade.
[1:23:20] We need to renegotiate these trade agreements, of course.
[1:23:23] What does NAFTA stand for?
[1:23:24] North American Free Trade Agreement.
[1:23:25] That's what it was before Donald Trump.
[1:23:26] So it sounds like free trade.
[1:23:28] Yeah.
[1:23:29] Again, that was before.
[1:23:30] That wasn't in effect when Donald Trump took office.
[1:23:31] And so then US...
[1:23:32] Yes, it was.
[1:23:33] And so first of all, the USMCA was effectively the same thing as NAFTA.
[1:23:39] No, it wasn't.
[1:23:40] And so what changed?
[1:23:41] I mean, the actual, the trade parameters changed, but like I said, I don't think it's a good
[1:23:45] thing.
[1:23:46] What changed?
[1:23:47] What do you mean?
[1:23:48] What changed?
[1:23:49] I mean, for starters, lumber.
[1:23:50] The way that we trade lumber with Canada changed.
[1:23:52] How?
[1:23:54] I don't know the actual intricacies of the USMCA, but what I will say is I don't think
[1:23:58] it's a good thing.
[1:23:59] So we had free trade with Canada?
[1:24:00] I don't think it's a good thing when countries like the EU...
[1:24:01] So why did you go and put tariffs on a country that we had free trade with?
[1:24:04] What gets better than free?
[1:24:05] Well, I guess with Canada, there's also the...
[1:24:07] I mean, I didn't know that.
[1:24:08] There's also the added part...
[1:24:09] There's something better than free, right?
[1:24:10] There's also the added part with Canada that they were, you know, spreading propaganda
[1:24:13] into the United States, which isn't a good thing that we have an ally spreading propaganda.
[1:24:16] Into the United States.
[1:24:17] That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
[1:24:18] Yes, it is.
[1:24:19] I'm just asking you.
[1:24:20] Tariffs are a means of having negotiating power over other countries.
[1:24:21] Why did you put tariffs on a country that we had free trade with?
[1:24:26] It was free.
[1:24:27] Yeah, because they were pumping propaganda into the United States.
[1:24:29] They were pumping propaganda into the United States?
[1:24:31] Yes.
[1:24:32] How?
[1:24:33] What do you mean how?
[1:24:34] How?
[1:24:35] I was like, during the World Series, Canada put propaganda to the United States.
[1:24:37] Of course we're going to put tariffs on them for that.
[1:24:39] We should have...
[1:24:40] They showed a commercial of Ronald Reagan in his own words.
[1:24:42] So that means that...
[1:24:43] Yeah, we shouldn't have other countries...
[1:24:44] So wait a second.
[1:24:45] So wait a second.
[1:24:46] The United States.
[1:24:47] So you just made Americans pay more for everything that comes from Canada because they showed
[1:24:52] a commercial you didn't like?
[1:24:54] That sounds like being a snowflake, if you ask me.
[1:24:57] We should be holding our allies accountable now when they counter-signaled the United
[1:25:00] States of America.
[1:25:01] Why are conservatives so sensitive?
[1:25:02] This is what happens when you have conservative government.
[1:25:03] They're so sensitive.
[1:25:04] They're over here raising your prices because they had a commercial that you don't like.
[1:25:08] What do you mean tariffs don't raise prices?
[1:25:10] There was just a study...
[1:25:11] What?
[1:25:12] ...by the U.S. Chicago that came out that tariffs actually don't raise the prices of
[1:25:14] goods.
[1:25:15] Why would you go put tariffs?
[1:25:16] Why would you put tariffs on a country we had free, free, F-R-E-E trade with?
[1:25:23] I think that we have a strategic advantage of having our lumber industry here in the
[1:25:27] United States.
[1:25:28] I don't want to be reliant upon Canada for lumber.
[1:25:30] What do these tariffs do to go and achieve that aim?
[1:25:32] Yeah, it makes it more expensive for imports to come to the United States so that businesses
[1:25:37] can relocate back to America.
[1:25:39] So now if your disagreement was tariffs on lumber, your answer now is for tariffs on
[1:25:46] everything.
[1:25:46] Again, yeah, you want to establish leverage for future trade agreements.
[1:25:51] That's how trade agreements work.
[1:25:52] That's how negotiations work.
[1:25:53] And the leverage is to go and charge for something you are getting largely for free.
[1:25:59] Again, because you want to have a strategic advantage of making it in the United
[1:26:03] States obviously.
[1:26:04] Free.
[1:26:06] Free.
[1:26:07] And you've heard American businesses that does stuff with Canada as a result of that.
[1:26:12] The amount of trade that we've had for American companies that do business with Canada has
[1:26:15] decreased as a result of these policies.
[1:26:17] And now what's also happening is that Canada is now going all around the world to go look
[1:26:21] for other partners.
[1:26:22] It's why, for example, they're meeting with India, why they're meeting with the European
[1:26:25] Union.
[1:26:26] And when they go and they go find these new partners, they're not going to want to go
[1:26:29] buy as much from the United States.
[1:26:30] So you know what these policies did because you guys were offended about a commercial.
[1:26:34] You sent our trade partners all the way around the world.
[1:26:36] You raised our prices as a result.
[1:26:38] And you screwed over American businesses.
[1:26:40] And that's not something that's good for the American people.
[1:26:42] You want to talk about Canada, but you don't.
[1:26:44] Pause.
[1:26:45] You've been voted out.
[1:26:46] Thank you.
[1:26:54] I didn't see that part.
[1:26:55] Okay.
[1:26:56] You know a tariff is a tax, right?
[1:26:57] And Democrats love to tax people.
[1:26:58] So all of a sudden, the Democrat in the room doesn't want to tax anybody.
[1:26:59] Donald Trump...
[1:27:00] I just want to make sure I correct this.
[1:27:01] A corporate tax is a tax on profits.
[1:27:02] A tariff is a tax on raw goods.
[1:27:03] It's why, for example, your tariffs are making things more expensive.
[1:27:04] Okay.
[1:27:05] When you buy that...
[1:27:06] If you didn't know how that works.
[1:27:07] Okay.
[1:27:08] You bought that watch.
[1:27:09] Rose.
[1:27:10] Rose.
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[1:27:25] Is this a Rolex?
[1:27:26] Whatever it is.
[1:27:27] The watch that you bought, there was a tax on that.
[1:27:28] It wasn't a corporate tax.
[1:27:29] In Rolex...
[1:27:30] It's a tax.
[1:27:31] It's an Apple watch, but Apple had to pay corporate tax, which, by the way, I want
[1:27:35] to raise that, by the way, for Apple, if you didn't know.
[1:27:37] So you want to raise corporate taxes, yeah.
[1:27:39] But you don't want to raise tariffs.
[1:27:41] You don't want to talk about tariffs.
[1:27:42] Because the tariff is a tax on raw goods and not on profits.
[1:27:43] But most of the tariffs, by the way, most of the tariffs are comparable tariffs.
[1:27:48] So whatever country is charging us tariffs...
[1:27:51] We have free trade with Canada.
[1:27:53] I don't think...
[1:27:54] I don't know if that's true.
[1:27:54] It's hard for me to talk about some of these debates.
[1:27:56] I like to talk about more principle type of stuff.
[1:27:59] But basically, Trump was trying to get comparable tariffs.
[1:28:04] So if a country was charging us 30% tariffs, we charge them 30% tariffs.
[1:28:10] So he went to a country we had no tariffs with and then added tariffs on them.
[1:28:16] I'm not going to talk specifically about Canada.
[1:28:18] Because it doesn't make any sense.
[1:28:19] But let me just say something else.
[1:28:20] What about Mexico?
[1:28:21] The other thing about the tariffs...
[1:28:22] What about Mexico?
[1:28:23] You want to talk about that one?
[1:28:24] Yeah.
[1:28:25] Well, one of the things I heard about tariffs was that he wanted to encourage companies
[1:28:28] to build and...
[1:28:29] Manufacturing activity has declined.
[1:28:31] We actually don't really need to trade with that many countries.
[1:28:34] Manufacturing activity in America has declined.
[1:28:37] We have oil, we have resources, we have farmland.
[1:28:40] And the reason why I think farmers are going out of business is because corporate people
[1:28:44] and dark money is buying up their property and forcing little farmers out.
[1:28:50] We have become a corporated farming country.
[1:28:53] That's all right.
[1:28:54] black rock for one it's bad news and that is preventing small farmers i don't i just want
[1:29:01] to make sure that i am not for these big wealthy corporations i'm not one of those folks right so
[1:29:07] i agree that there's a lot of that that's going on that needs to stop that's why it also doesn't
[1:29:11] really make much sense that you guys got rid of the consumer protection bureau that was literally
[1:29:15] there to go and crack down on a lot of these things that was happening in this country you
[1:29:19] got rid of that stuff so i don't think protection bureau was probably very corrupt like most of the
[1:29:25] government agencies something something why does billion dollars directly back to the taxpayers in
[1:29:30] this country that's something that's inherently corrupt here's the problem you guys put these
[1:29:34] tariffs on place and now you raise people's prices people's businesses are suffering as a result of
[1:29:39] these things that you guys have done our price is going up our price is going down gas is going down
[1:29:44] eggs are going down chicken is going down like i said rice and pasta is going down i don't know why
[1:29:49] it up i don't know we need a little bit of inflation government wants like two to three
[1:29:53] percent inflation that is the goal of government going up in this country my friend whether you
[1:29:58] like it or not and it's why people don't feel that great about the economy it's why republicans are
[1:30:03] losing everywhere across the country and they tell you and when you ask them why they're losing
[1:30:08] it's because they say that they don't like the way that donald trump has raised their prices and
[1:30:13] ultimately what's happening in this country is that your policies are making things more expensive for
[1:30:17] everybody in america another reason
[1:30:19] why why prices might be going up is because the dollar value of the dollar is going down because
[1:30:24] they're printing so much it's not that things are going up we literally had a net dollar is going
[1:30:29] down pause pause thank you okay
[1:30:57] all right i chose dennis for the final debate because he's running for the
[1:31:00] united states congress so let's see if he's prepared all right
[1:31:07] my surrounding claim is that democrats hate america prove me wrong
[1:31:12] prove you wrong yeah that's a very subjective opinion no it's very objective what is the point
[1:31:18] that you're trying to make it's unbelievably i mean you're in california right now we're in
[1:31:23] los angeles this is a state that's been run for over 60 years by a democrat super majority
[1:31:28] we've had democrat governors for a plurality of almost 60 years as well the last 12 it was jerry
[1:31:34] brown jr and now we have gavin newsom for two terms and the state uh not only are we
[1:31:39] running a historic deficit but we just spent as somebody mentioned here earlier 25 billion dollars
[1:31:45] in five years to solve the homelessness crisis and that money just evaporated it went all to
[1:31:52] ngos you know gavin newsom's cronies and there's no accountability there's no interest in there
[1:31:57] being any sort of accountability so much so that l.a county itself has spent over a billion dollars
[1:32:03] to fix homelessness our current comptroller kevin mejia tried to do an audit
[1:32:09] and the mayor karen bass communist karen bass yes she's a communist look it up trained by fidel
[1:32:15] castro what is this whole argument about the kids the whole thing is that it's about centralized
[1:32:20] power they're all communists they're all marxists you're part of this every day you're a part of
[1:32:24] this infrastructure let me finish my point let me finish let me yes that's exactly what i just
[1:32:29] stated so just so let me just communists let me just finish my point john federman is a marxist
[1:32:34] let me finish my point well he's associating himself with that yes your party your party's
[1:32:39] democrats socialists of america that's how you get zora mamdani out of new york that's part of
[1:32:43] their goal they're saying it literally that you just described a party that has diversity of
[1:32:49] thought that's kind of healthy that's not diversity of thought absolutely not that's
[1:32:52] what happens when you're not that's what happens when you're not in a brainless cult like i'm just
[1:32:57] going to tell you this so you've got you've got you've got for example a party in the democratic
[1:33:02] party is one that has folks like joe manchin and zoron mamdani it's people with a wide array of
[1:33:09] political opinions and you have these people who are so extremely disingenuous right now i just
[1:33:14] want to know you're being extreme you're being what is it that you're trying to say about
[1:33:20] democrats that hate america you're saying let me finish america hates this let me finish let me do
[1:33:25] my point okay you brought up joe manchin and you brought up john federman two people that every
[1:33:29] time john federman specifically he actually is a middle-of-the-road guy every time every no let me
[1:33:36] let me finish my point okay every time he sides with common sense policy that is coming from the
[1:33:40] finish my point, dude. Every time he sides with common sense policy. Let me finish my point,
[1:33:46] bro. Are you going to let me, you're going to just keep, I'm not flustered. I can see it over
[1:33:50] you. Your eyes. I'm not. Oh, now he's trying to play back what I did a minute ago. Remember that
[1:33:54] one? Yes, I do remember that one. Look how the tables have turned. Oh my God, dude, you'll be
[1:33:58] so petty. Just let me finish my point. Okay. Okay. You brought up Joe Manchin and John Fetterman.
[1:34:04] Okay. Every time they side with common sense policy from Republicans, what happens? They get
[1:34:08] eaten alive by their own side. You watch Hassan Piker. You watch anybody on the left. They will
[1:34:13] eat them alive for siding with common sense. Things that people in Pennsylvania and their
[1:34:18] states want. Not the Democrat orthodoxy. Okay. Your party hates America. You look at Ilhan Omar.
[1:34:25] She got, she got, no, no, let me finish. Ilhan Omar got into Congress with a negative net worth
[1:34:31] of $45,000. She's worth over $60 million. Explain that to me right now. Because of the fact that
[1:34:37] there are people,
[1:34:38] with a wide array of, and by the way, I just want to make sure. It is not your, I am not in the
[1:34:42] Joe Manchin, John Fetterman era of the Democratic Party. It's not where I stand personally. I am a
[1:34:48] Barack Obama style Democrat, but ultimately, of course, right? I think he was a really good
[1:34:53] president, but at the end of the day. So you support, you support the one president. I don't
[1:34:57] understand. No, no, no, no. I want to take that back. No, hold on one second. Hold on one second.
[1:35:02] Democrats hate America. You think Barack Obama was the greatest president when he unilaterally
[1:35:07] called the most amount of money in the world? I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't
[1:35:08] understand. I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't see why you think Barack Obama
[1:35:09] is the greatest president when he killed the most innocent citizens in the history of the United
[1:35:13] States presidency. I don't agree with that. You don't agree with that? I don't, I don't agree with
[1:35:17] that. And that's exactly what I just said is that people- But you just said he was the greatest
[1:35:21] president. Excuse me. No, no, diversity of thought is killing innocent civilians? I hate to break it
[1:35:25] to you. How is that diversity of thought? I hate to break it to you. But Donald Trump also had an
[1:35:29] increase of drone strikes, more than what was happening under Barack Obama. So you might want
[1:35:32] to go check your numbers because if that's the margin of whether or not someone is a good
[1:35:35] president, your guy literally went and had more than two. You know, I don't know if that's the
[1:35:36] Your guy literally went and had more drone strikes. Guess what? I bet you're still gonna go to Mar-a-Lago and beg for his support
[1:35:42] Aren't you? I didn't just sit here and say that Barack Obama is the greatest president in history
[1:35:46] But Donald Trump had more drone strikes. Knowing that he killed more civilians. But Donald Trump had more drone strikes
[1:35:51] But you still think he's a good president, right? I didn't say that I approve of drone strikes
[1:35:54] I'm calling out drone strikes. So it's almost like if you disagree with something, you can still support the politician overall
[1:35:59] That's kind of how that works. I'm literally calling out drone strikes. Do you understand how your cognitive business is working?
[1:36:04] You're trying to say that because I support Barack Obama and I disagree with drone strikes and all of a sudden that that's some
[1:36:09] Type of failure in my reasoning while you literally support Donald Trump who had more drone strikes and you still support him
[1:36:14] You literally came dressed like him today. You're wearing the pin. You're wearing the tie. You're wearing everything
[1:36:18] You came just like him. Hold on, hold on one second. Wait, wait. I just want to I just want to make a point here
[1:36:23] He has a problem with somebody wearing the American flag. Pure Democrat. You hate America
[1:36:28] You just made my point for me. Thank you so much. But I said that you're dressed like Donald Trump
[1:36:33] Can you really shake my hand?
[1:36:34] Can you really shake my hand that I said that you're dressed like Donald Trump? Oh my god civility is done
[1:36:39] You came dressed like another what are you talking about? You have a problem with me with the way I'm dressed
[1:36:46] I'm wearing the American flag. I'm wearing American colors red white and blue because the you just said you have a problem
[1:36:50] The point that I made my point for me bro. I said that yeah
[1:36:53] What I said was was that you're trying to say that because of do I support Barack Obama that that has to mean that I support
[1:37:01] Everything that he did you support your splitting hairs, bro. You literally this is your argument
[1:37:05] Yeah, you're your turn ice. You literally support a man that had more drugs
[1:37:09] I specifically called out drone strikes
[1:37:11] You think that means that I sub don't know any president doing it Donald Trump and you you literally you think you're literally having to put
[1:37:18] Words into my mouth so you can exonerate yourself of a point that I made because you can't respond to it your own argument
[1:37:24] No, you called Barack Obama the greatest president that ever was and I said I say that you endorses that I was right
[1:37:29] Yes, you did. I said he was a great president. So you think you think killing civilians make somebody a great president?
[1:37:34] What? So?
[1:37:34] Do you think Donald Trump was a great president?
[1:37:36] I think he's doing a pretty good job compared to you think a pretty good president is someone who had more drone strikes in Barack Obama
[1:37:42] I don't endorse drone strikes. No, I don't so it's almost like that's a Washington. We're stuck in the same boy
[1:37:47] It's the going around. I feel like we're going around in circles. Let's just take it back for a second
[1:37:51] It didn't work out for you. That's kind of how that went. Yeah, you can frame it however you want
[1:37:54] But that's not actually what I don't think lives
[1:37:56] I think the people like this one
[1:37:57] I think the people at home can see a lot better that you hate America and that you really prove my point for me
[1:38:02] You you literally said they have a problem with me wearing this suit
[1:38:05] I had them. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, we're going back to circles. I'm trying to move the conversation forward
[1:38:10] It's got nothing to I could argue about this for my whole life
[1:38:13] But I think the good people at home would rather see something different. Yeah, I'd pivot to if I were you
[1:38:17] It's not working out well for you. Okay, you can say whatever you want to save your ego. Here's the thing
[1:38:22] Okay, prove to me that you don't hate America
[1:38:24] I gave you a bunch of data show one piece of policy from Democrats has been good for the working class
[1:38:30] You asked me to prove whether or not what I love America. I love America. No, no, no, no, that's not what I asked you
[1:38:35] That is not what I asked you wanted me to prove. I asked for one piece of policy my
[1:38:39] Policy my grandparents our lives look the Democrat the Democrat Party
[1:38:45] I love Democrat Party. The Democrat Party is one of the most dishonest self-serving parties in the history of this country
[1:38:51] Well, it's it's been like this forever. Okay, Ilhan Omar got in the office. Okay, so defend Ilhan Omar
[1:38:57] She got in the office. I've never met worth of $45,000. She's worth. I don't I'm not in dollars
[1:39:01] I'm not here to talk about AOC just went on
[1:39:04] Okay
[1:39:05] The oligarchy or wait a second $50,000 on luxury hotels and bad bunny concerts. How is that loving America? Wait a second
[1:39:12] I just want to make sure that something's clear. You don't know just explain that to me
[1:39:15] No, no now you're trying to pay to make now you're trying to I just want to make sure this is right
[1:39:19] You're trying to say that someone increasing their network
[1:39:24] In government per se is indicative of someone who doesn't care about America, right?
[1:39:29] I think I think enriching yourself on the backs of Americans when you're there to serve is
[1:39:33] Inherently the son is corrupt and it is anti-american
[1:39:36] Yeah, how much is Donald Trump's net worth increase since he's been the president?
[1:39:40] I know that he spent for a fact over six hundred million dollars in
[1:39:43] Wrongful lawsuits that were brought by Latisha James and all that these crazy Democrats in the judicial much
[1:39:49] How much what how much is his net worth increase since he's been present in 2020? Well, you tell me three point three billion dollars
[1:39:57] He also had to spend he also had to spend six hundred million
[1:40:01] And he also had to spend six hundred million on the president's on these lawsuits say you guys know by
[1:40:06] Lawsuits nobody's are bringing up has made more money off the he's been an independent businessman his honor higher life
[1:40:12] He still owns golf courses. His son Eric made more than his son Eric still running your own
[1:40:17] So if your own logic is that making money in public office is indicative of someone who hates America
[1:40:23] I would say the guy who's made more than anybody else in the history of America probably hates America, right? Absolutely false equivalent
[1:40:30] That's not how that works. This is an absolutely false
[1:40:33] That didn't work out well for you. This is a false equivalence
[1:40:36] Campaign is gonna be struggling at all. Yeah, I'm sure I'm gonna be fine. Okay
[1:40:40] Do you have a problem with Congress people enriching themselves off of insider trading?
[1:40:43] I believe that we should ban insider trading a hundred percent and I support John Ossoff
[1:40:48] So are you going to buy it? But by the way, you're going to by the way, here's what here's here's the situation
[1:40:54] You just made an argument that making money in public office is something that is inherently
[1:41:01] Indicative of someone who hates America
[1:41:02] You're literally cheerleading and dressing like the man
[1:41:06] Who's made more money off the presidency than anybody else in history and you don't want to call that out
[1:41:12] partially because he wouldn't that's a crypto coin what partially because he created partially because he created a crypto coin that he literally used
[1:41:19] Taxpayer dollars to go meet with people as a result of those things the crypto coin that he created what you're saying
[1:41:25] You don't want to talk about that. Do you begin with the crypto coin? These are all bro
[1:41:29] Do we know he was a business crypto coin? He was a businessman to begin with. Let me ask you this
[1:41:34] Do we know who's investing in Trump's crypto?
[1:41:37] Lay it on me. Do we know well lay it on me?
[1:41:40] No for sure
[1:41:41] Why are you bringing this up if you don't know because the point is is that he is literally making money?
[1:41:46] Billions of dollars of a crypto coin that he literally is pushing that we have no transparency on whatsoever. If that's not shady
[1:41:53] I don't know what is you have him literally spending our taxpayer dollars to go meet with his crypto donors and
[1:42:00] That doesn't sound like something that's inherently corrupt to you. What are the investors? What what's the
[1:42:07] And literally and literally one of the information around here's what's funny
[1:42:11] But literally one of the people that he's literally went and and and has done favors for in office are
[1:42:17] Investors to his meme coin. It's so laughable to me that you guys can't even say name
[1:42:23] How about how about why don't you name them?
[1:42:25] How about in one person? How about I don't know his name exactly, but I don't know. Thank you
[1:42:29] You don't know what the hell you're talking about, dude
[1:42:32] You're just making shit up because I can't give you the name. You didn't even know you didn't know that Trump
[1:42:37] He's done strikes. What are you talking about? I'm not this entire time
[1:42:41] I'm not sitting here and talking about stuff that I don't know you sit here you cite all this stuff
[1:42:45] You can't have a piece of data to back anything up. Thank God. You're not in Congress, dude. You won't be either
[1:42:51] Congratulations, I guess we'll both be sitting right there together not bet against me, bro
[1:42:55] Okay, you better not be running against. Who do you think I'm running? I don't know who you're running is guess
[1:43:00] Oh, I'm taking Adam Schiff's old seat
[1:43:05] You know what the last time I checked
[1:43:07] 50-50 just passed and Gavin Newsom just drew all of us. Oh, he supports he supports authoritarian gerrymandering
[1:43:14] Yeah, you know what? He supports it. And yeah, wow
[1:43:17] There you go. Here's why it's America. Why here's why here's what it is. It was
[1:43:24] Democracy here's why you hate our constitutional answer. That's why you want the map so it benefits you
[1:43:29] Here's what it is
[1:43:30] The Republicans in Texas redrew the state of Texas to take five seats and why did that happen again and you thought you know
[1:43:37] And you know
[1:43:37] We're gonna do sit around do nothing. So what happened? Hey, we drew the Republicans straight out of all bow
[1:43:44] And it's how about you just look at what happened, you know, by the way, by the way, you're for the wages. Let me ask you this
[1:43:49] No, no, no, you let me ask you. Well, you support Kevin. We had an absolutely false
[1:43:52] Well, you're right now or Kevin talk over each other you support Kevin's right?
[1:43:56] Will you support Kevin Kiley's bill to ban partisan gerrymandering all across this country before we get to that?
[1:44:01] Oh, you support Kevin Kelly. Yes, I will support it. Then why did the Republicans in Congress don't why don't they let me let me ask you?
[1:44:06] A simple question. You're for why did they not vote for? Let me ask you a question. Why did they not?
[1:44:10] Let me ask you a simple question partisan gerrymandering. Are you gonna let me ask you the question? You're gonna filibuster
[1:44:14] What do you let me ask you a simple question? Okay, so do you know about Joe Biden versus Galveston, Texas?
[1:44:20] No, you don't know about that lawsuit
[1:44:22] No
[1:44:23] The lawsuit that triggered the gerrymandering in Texas that was brought on by Joe Biden the gerrymandering
[1:44:28] So Galveston, Texas tried to redraw the districts. They try to draw minority coalition districts for what they were sued for what?
[1:44:37] Or what they were redrawing those districts back when Joe Biden was president Joe Biden
[1:44:42] They were redrawing districts in Galveston, Texas. I don't know specifically. This is you don't know bro
[1:44:47] I'm talking about a lawsuit. You know, this is your state. You should know you don't even know what I'm trying to explain to you
[1:44:52] And you're trying to nitpick details. I'm explaining to you the decision and how we got to this
[1:44:57] You just said you don't know I tricked you. How about that? Oh great. Wow. So you're a liar. Yeah, that's great. Wow
[1:45:04] truly
[1:45:06] Politician we don't need in Washington. We're out of time. We're out of time. Thank you
[1:45:11] I think that he was definitely looking for a clip but it didn't work out for him
[1:45:18] the idea that Democrats hate America is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard and I think that ultimately
[1:45:22] What people saw was somebody that does not have any consistency in their argument folks that are more concerned with being on the next libs of
[1:45:29] tik-tok meme
[1:45:31] Versus the people in this country that are paying more for everything and I think that was abundantly clear
[1:45:35] It's really unfortunate that he turned his passion
[1:45:39] For politics and for civic involvement into something that I would just call poisonous. I thought it was good
[1:45:46] I thought he was entertaining. He had a good sense of humor about it
[1:45:49] I don't think he addressed some of the points that you know
[1:45:52] We were trying to hit but some of us didn't address some of his points
[1:45:55] So that just kind of goes with the territory. He was very rehearsing
[1:45:58] I feel like he would make a great politician, you know, very like y'all got the facial expressions
[1:46:02] What grade would you give Trump right now in his first year and second term? Oh Lord, this is gonna be published
[1:46:09] I would give him a
[1:46:11] C plus B minus C plus I may be a little harsh with this
[1:46:16] But I'd say like a C plus maybe a low B a B minus. I would give Trump a C right now
[1:46:20] I'm not great at an a mate is the main reason why I voted for him and reason
[1:46:24] I think it's such a big success was the one big beautiful bill. I wish he would do more to
[1:46:30] Bring people across the aisle. I think we should put Americans first, right? I don't like giving 40 billion dollars Argentina
[1:46:36] I think that that's money going abroad that could be
[1:46:39] Here helping our people anti-war was such a strong reason for me to support him
[1:46:45] And then I feel like he's been influenced and split some neocons to you know, get involved in more conflicts abroad than we should be
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