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UT v. Kouri Richins: Full Closing Arguments

COURT TV June 17, 2026 3h 36m 31,440 words
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"Corey Richens feels aggrieved and is thus an intensely ambitious person. She feels aggrieved because growing up her father was an alcoholic who traded parenting for prison and her mother a gambler who traded parenting for a casino. Corey Richens thus worked for her aunt cleaning the homes of rich..."

[00:00:00] Speaker 1: Corey Richens feels aggrieved and is thus an intensely ambitious person. She feels aggrieved because growing up her father was an alcoholic who traded parenting for prison and her mother a gambler who traded parenting for a casino. Corey Richens thus worked for her aunt cleaning the homes of rich people in Park City. She was not beneath those homeowners, but she felt that she was. This fueled in her an intense desire to appear privileged, affluent, and successful. She met Eric Richens. He was a successful business owner. He had money. They had a son, married, and had two more sons. Corey Richens was on her way. But she was unhappy. She wanted to leave Eric Richens, but did not want to leave his money. Their prenuptial agreement meant that if she left him, she would also leave most of his money. So, Corey Richens took a quarter of a million dollars in equity out of Eric Richens' home, without him knowing it, so that she could start her own business and earn enough money to leave Eric Richens. Corey Richens is intensely ambitious. First with Eric's money and then other people's money, Corey Richens carefully curated the facade of a privileged, affluent, successful business owner. Behind the facade, however, Corey Richens was incompetent. Corey Richens was incompetent. She took tremendous risks. She borrowed money by any means necessary, at exorbitant rates. She gambled other people's money and lost. Her business was imploding. All the while, Corey Richens was more interested in spending time with Josh Grossman than Eric. She dreamed of living in the Midway Mansion with Josh, running it as an event center, farming and raising kids. But she did not have the money to leave Eric or the money to salvage her business. Corey Richens is an intensely ambitious person. She is a risk taker. There was a way forward. Eric had to die. As Judge Morozik just instructed, there are five counts. And each count has a series of elements. The state has to prove each count and each element of each count beyond a reasonable doubt. That is our burden. In this closing, we will go count by count and then within each count element by element to show to you how the state has met its burden of proving aggravated murder, attempted aggravated murder, two counts of fraud and forgery. That, again, is the reasonable doubt instruction that Judge Morozik just read and you will have back with you in the jury room. Judge Morozik also read this instruction on what evidence is and it's usually testimony and exhibits. Judge Morozik is a very important part of the court. Judge Morozik is a very important part of the court. Judge Morozik is a very important part of the court. Judge Morozik is a very important part of the court. Judge Morozik is a very important part of the court. 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That's what matters. That's murder. These two elements are just murder. Right? If we hide this, that's a murder charge. Here we have an aggravated murder charge, and the state will prove two separate and distinct aggravators. The first is for pecuniary gain. This is a why aggravator. Why did Corey Richens kill Eric? For money. The second aggravator is a how aggravator. How did she do it? Here, by the administration of any substance, here it happens to be fentanyl, but it could be any substance administered in a lethal amount. Either one of those aggravators are what transforms this case from a murder case to an aggravated murder case. So, first count, first element. Was it Corey Richens? Yes. The state has proved that Corey Richens had the means to kill the fentanyl, the illicit street drugs, the motive here money, and a fresh start at life, and the opportunity to kill Eric Richens. She was the only other adult in the home at the time. Nobody else killed Eric Richens. Now, intentionally or knowingly caused the death of Eric Richens by administering the illicit street drugs. The state will prove with all kinds of evidence, testimony, exhibits, patterns of her behavior, and what each of us know about humans, that she intended to cause Eric's death. She intended it probably as early as December the 21st, sorry, December the 7th, 2021, when she booked a trip for her and Josh Grossman to the Caribbean for April. People don't book that trip. Corey Richens did not book that trip thinking Eric Richens would be alive in April. She booked it knowing he would not. In December, before Eric died, before Corey Richens murdered Eric, she told her friend, Becky Lloyd, in many ways it would be better if he were dead. That proves she intended to cause his death. This was the New York life policy that covered the C&E buy-sell agreement. And on January the 1st, 2022, Corey Richens changed the life insurance beneficiary on Cody's policy from Eric to her. The evidence proves that Cody, sorry, that Corey Richens didn't understand that was Cody's policy. And when she figured it out she went ahead and changed it back. Because she planned to murder Eric. She did not plan to murder Cody. But she planned to murder. Corey Richens asked two people, Hayden Jeffs and Carmen Lauber, for the Michael Jackson drug. Corey Richens was a suburban mother real estate agent. She does not know a lot about the illicit street drug world. But she knows Michael Jackson died from taking drugs. She doesn't know how to order a street drug, but she knows she wants the Michael Jackson stuff. She knows she wants it because it is lethal. It is fatal. It kills. It kills. [00:12:03] Speaker ?: And she wanted lethal, fatal death. And she wanted lethal, fatal death. [00:12:03] Speaker 1: Corey Richens is intensely ambitious. [00:12:08] Speaker ?: She wanted the perfect life, or at least the appearance of the perfect life. And for her, that meant Josh Grossman. But first, Eric had to go away. Eric had to go away. Eric had to go away. [00:12:19] Speaker 1: Eric had to go away. So, with these transactions, when Carmen hit you up, what did she tell you? Eric was a little bit of a woman. Eric was a little bit of a woman. Eric was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. [00:12:28] Speaker ?: And she was a little bit of a woman. [00:12:29] Speaker 1: And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. [00:12:37] Speaker ?: And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. And she was a little bit of a woman. 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[00:13:31] Speaker ?: And she was a little bit of a woman. [00:13:32] Speaker 1: And she was a little bit of a woman. Those illicit street drugs that killed Eric Richens. It's those illicit street drugs that Corey used to murder Eric Richens. And while there may be some question as to whether she specifically ordered fentanyl. Or she knew she was getting fentanyl. The evidence proves she at least knew it. She wanted fatal, lethal, illicit street drugs. And all the testimony from Carmen Lauber, Robert Crozier, Digital Forensics. We'll get into it. I'll confirm that Corey Richens ordered and received illicit street drugs. And that those street drugs contained fentanyl. Illicit street drugs is all that matters. But you heard the testimony that despite confusion in what people were ordering, people were getting fentanyl. The fake M30s looked like the real M30s. Everything on the street in early 2022 had fentanyl. That's how we know that it was this purchase that ended up killing Eric. It's the fentanyl. It's the fentanyl. We can trace the fentanyl. Next slide. Next slide. The digital forensics corroborate Carmen Lauber's testimony that five days before Corey Richens murdered Eric Richens, Carmen Lauber purchased for Corey Richens fentanyl from Robert Crozier at the Maverick in Draper. The call detail records show an extraordinary amount of overlapping communication between Carmen Lauber, Corey Richens, Carmen Lauber, Robert Crozier during that time. We, of course, don't have the communications. Carmen Lauber deleted them because they were evidence of a drug deal. Corey Richens deleted them because they were evidence of a drug deal and a murder. Robert Crozier said he had lost his phone. But that's an extraordinary number of communications. We know that Corey Richens, the evidence proves that Corey Richens used a Moscow mule and a shot to administer the fentanyl to Eric. She writes it in her orange notebook where she journals what happened the night she murdered Eric. It's a self-serving journal. We'll discuss that down the road. But she wrote Moscow mule in a lemon drop shot. And that is consistent with all the toxicology. Again, in the notes that investigators recovered from the kitchen cabinet in Corey Richens' home, she wrote Moscow mules. Lemon water, vodka, and rum. She left out the main ingredient, which of course is the ginger beer. There was ginger beer. But there was ginger beer. We know that from the cock and bull. Oh, I mean investigator Cam Sessions found in the trash can in the kitchen. It's interesting that Corey Richens wrote vodka, in parentheses, rum. The evidence may show that the Moscow mule she made that night was ginger beer and fentanyl. The lemon drop shot may be lemon and fentanyl. Notice that here she writes drink in bed. We'll come back to that in a minute. The cock and bull, as I mentioned, corroborates at least a Moscow mule. And then we know the cause of death from the death certificate was fentanyl. The fentanyl and the illicit street drugs that Corey Richens got from Carmen Lauber, who got from Robert Crozier. We know that Eric ingested the fentanyl from the Moscow mule, the lemon drop shop, or both. The medical examiner Dr. Pamela Ulmer, toxicologist Brianna Peterson, chief medical examiner Dr. Eric Christensen, all testified that the 20,000 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl, an extraordinary amount, in his stomach indicates oral ingestion. Indeed, Dr. Christensen not only testified to it, he told Corey Richens that in their phone call that she recorded. Ms. Peterson's testimony, as well as Dr. Christensen, also proves that the fentanyl was illicit. Again, illicit coming from the street, illegal street drug, illicit fentanyl. Their testimony, right, was that there was not only fentanyl in the toxicology, but there was norefentanyl, which was a marker of an illicit fentanyl. There's also acetyl fentanyl as well. But it's the norefentanyl that is a marker of illicit fentanyl, which completely tracks with how Corey Richens got the illicit street drugs. We also know that Corey Richens intended to kill Eric Richens because the toxicology contained quetiapine. [00:21:53] Speaker 3: We may have lost audio. Let's reset. My apologies. Quetiapine is an antipsychotic medication. [00:22:26] Speaker 1: Last one. [00:22:27] Speaker 4: What is quetiapine? Quetiapine? [00:22:31] Speaker 3: Quetiapine is an antipsychotic medication. It's called Seroquel. [00:22:36] Speaker 4: Okay. [00:22:38] Speaker 3: Thank you. It's a prescription, you know, mental health medication that's prescribed for different things. [00:22:44] Speaker 4: I got you. [00:22:45] Speaker 1: The quetiapine in the toxicology for Eric Richens shows that Corey Richens was involved because she was prescribed quetiapine. Now this conversation that she recorded with Dr. Christensen is also very insightful. She pretends to not know what quetiapine is. It's her prescription. Of course she knows what it is. She pretends to not know what it is to cover up her involvement in putting the quetiapine inside Eric's body. She feigns the ignorance. She covers up her conduct in murdering Eric Richens in several ways throughout beginning the night she murdered him. All the way through the walk the dog letter. In the orange notebook, she writes, she jumped out of bed, ran, turned on the lights, grabbed her phone and called 911. The evidence proves that is not true. The evidence proves that when she returned to their bedroom. Corey Richens says she was in Ashton's room. There's no evidence of that. But she returned from somewhere to their bedroom, unlocked her phone, put it on speaker. There's no call detail records showing a call at that time. But she may have called on Wi-Fi, somebody, that would not appear in the call detail records. It would appear on her phone if her phone had not been deleted. She then unlocked her phone again at 3:08, 3:10, 3:15, 3:19, 3:19. And then, 15 minutes later, she called 911. That is not immediately called 911. Perhaps she was staging the scene during these 15 minutes. We're going to discuss the 911 call in a minute. This is a receiver activation. At 3:22, 12, when we're in the 911 call, she's on receiver on her phone. The 911 call operator asks her, "Are you on speaker phone?" She says, "Yes?" No. She's on receiver. Before we play this, we're going to listen to the first part, actually most of the 911 call, again. I ask that as you listen to it, you'll hear the first minute. The first minute is not the sound of a wife becoming a widow. To echo her friend Chelsea Barney, the first minute is the sound of a wife becoming a black widow. Listen to how Corey Richens, on the 911 call, immediately presents, or very soon after the call begins, presents her alibi narrative. Listen to how she tells the 911 dispatcher where she was when Eric died. She is distancing herself. Rather than, "He's not breathing. He has no pulse. I have to figure out what to do. I need help." She's saying, "Hey, look. I was not there. I was in my son's room." That's her alibi. She's distancing herself from the time and the place that she murdered Eric. The 911 call operator asks her to perform CPR. Notice how she distances herself from that. No, I don't know how. No, he's too heavy. No, I can't move him. She is not immediately trying to revive him. We're going to run a clock from the time that the dispatcher asks her if she can start CPR to the time she purportedly starts it. It's six minutes. Listen, please, to the portion of the 911 call where the operator instructs Corey Richens how to remove Eric from the bed. Listen how the dispatcher says, "Move to the side of the bed." Corey Richens says she does. Close the pillows, pull the arm, pull the leg, lift up the sheath, pull him off. If Corey Richens is following the instructions of the 911 dispatcher, Eric Richens' body is on the floor on the side of the bed. Not the foot of the bed where it was found. Listen also to her choice of language. She has dehumanized Eric Richens. When she is talking about removing Eric from the bed and she is protesting and she is saying she cannot, she is not saying, "I can't move him." Eric is no longer a him to him. She murdered Eric. Eric is an it. So, finally, listen to when she says she is performing CPR and the phone is on speaker. If the phone is not on speaker, determine whether she is performing CPR. Okay, Scott. [00:30:22] Speaker ?: Okay, Scott. I'm not breathing. [00:30:23] Speaker 1: He's cold. Okay, what's the address? [00:30:25] Speaker ?: 282 Willow Court. 282 Willow Court. 282 Willow Court. Uh-huh. Okay, what's the phone number in case we get disconnected? 435-671-1987. [00:30:27] Speaker 4: Okay, is this going to be in Francis? Okay, I'm not breathing. I'm not breathing. He's cold. Okay, what's the address? 282 Willow Court. 282 Willow Court. 282 Willow Court. [00:30:35] Speaker ?: 282 Willow Court. [00:30:36] Speaker 4: 282 Willow Court. Uh-huh. [00:30:38] Speaker ?: Okay, what's the phone number in case we get disconnected? [00:30:39] Speaker 4: 282 Willow Court. 282 Willow Court. 282 Willow Court. 282 Willow Court. [00:30:43] Speaker ?: Uh-huh. [00:30:44] Speaker 4: Okay, what's the phone number in case we get disconnected? 435-671-1987. Okay, is this going to be in Francis? Uh-huh. Okay, tell me exactly what happened. I don't know what this came in. I was sleeping with my kids. Okay, Kevin, I need you to take a deep breath. What's going on? I don't know. [00:30:56] Speaker ?: I don't know. [00:30:57] Speaker 4: I don't know. I just, I was sleeping in with my kids. I just, I just came in the bed, in our bed and I turned over and he's just cold. He's just cold. Who's cold? My husband watching the light on him. [00:31:10] Speaker ?: And he's not breathing? No. [00:31:11] Speaker 4: He's not breathing? No. He's not breathing? No. I need you to confirm it for me. I need you to confirm it for me. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I just, I was sleeping in with my kids. I just, I was sleeping in with my kids. I just came in the bed, in our bed and I turned over and he's just cold. He's just cold. Who's cold? [00:31:28] Speaker ?: My husband watching the light on him. [00:31:29] Speaker 4: And he's not breathing? No. [00:31:31] Speaker ?: He's not breathing? No. [00:31:33] Speaker 4: He's not breathing? No. I need you to confirm it for me. I need you to confirm it for me. Is he not breathing? No. Okay. We're going to, can you do CPR? No. I don't know. I don't know. You don't know. I'm going to tell you how to. Are you willing to do CPR? Yeah. Okay. If there's a defibrillator available, send someone to get it now and tell me when you have it. No, thank God. Available? No. I'm sending the paramedics to help you now. Stay on the line and I'll tell you exactly what you do next. Okay. Okay. Are you right by your, are you right by your husband right now? Yes. He's so pale. His mouth is so open. Okay. Okay. Listen carefully. Are you able to lay him on the floor on the ground? I can't. [00:32:27] Speaker ?: I can't. [00:32:28] Speaker 4: I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. You can do it. [00:32:36] Speaker ?: You can do it. [00:32:37] Speaker 4: You need to calm down. Okay? Yellow. We need to help them. I can guide you through CPR. [00:32:43] Speaker ?: Take a deep breath for me. [00:32:44] Speaker 4: I'm, I'm here with you. He doesn't have a pulse. He doesn't have a pulse. He doesn't have a pulse. He doesn't have a pulse. No. There's no pulse. Okay, I'm here with you. I'm just hearing anything. I'm just hearing anything. I'm just hearing anything. I'm here with you. We need to get him help. If you need to put me on speaker, put me on speaker. I'm going to guide you through CPR, okay? Okay. Tell me where you've done that. Okay, I'm ready. You're ready? Okay, he's on the floor. He's on the bed. Okay, are you able by any chance to move him on the floor? Okay, I'm here with you. You're not able to move him to the floor? [00:33:56] Speaker ?: Go out, go out, go out, go out, go out. Don't come in here, don't come in here. Oh, my God, my sister. You're not able to move him to the floor? [00:34:08] Speaker 4: Go out, go out, go out, go out, go out, go out. Don't come in here, don't come in here. Oh, my God, my sister. You're not able to move him to the floor? Go out, go out, go out, go out, go out. Don't come in here. Don't come in here. Oh, my God, my sister. You're not able to move him to the floor? Go out, go out, go out, go out, go out. Don't come in here. Oh, my God, my sister. You're not able to move him to the floor? No, girl, go out, go out. Listen carefully. We just need to get him on the floor. Don't worry about hurting them. Don't hurt the body. Is he still on the bed? Yes. Okay, if there's a sheet or a blanket under them, can you loosen it from the mattress? Yes. Okay, stand at the side of the bed closest to them and remove anything under the head. Okay. Okay, I need you to pull the sheets towards you and slide them off the bed. Don't worry about him falling. We just need to help him now. Okay. Tell me when he's on the floor. I can't move it. It's a dead weight. If he has sheets under, pull them to the floor. Don't worry about hurting him. [00:35:37] Speaker ?: I can't move it. Okay, I have the ambulance that's on the way. Okay. There's another way to do this, okay? [00:35:41] Speaker 4: Grab their feet. Grab his feet. Okay. Slide them towards you until they're just off the bed. Okay. [00:35:47] Speaker ?: How old is your husband? [00:35:47] Speaker 4: 39. 39? Yeah. Okay. Okay. [00:35:52] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:35:52] Speaker 4: Okay. [00:35:53] Speaker ?: Okay. Okay. Okay. [00:35:55] Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. [00:35:57] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:35:57] Speaker 4: Okay. [00:35:58] Speaker ?: Okay. Okay. [00:35:59] Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. Okay. [00:36:02] Speaker ?: Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. [00:36:06] Speaker 4: Okay. How old is your husband? 39. 39? [00:36:10] Speaker ?: Yeah. [00:36:11] Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. [00:36:16] Speaker 2: Okay. [00:36:17] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:36:18] Speaker 4: Okay. Were you able to put his feet off the bed? Absolutely. Okay. Now grab the arm closest to you and pull the rest of the way off the bed. Again, don't worry about the fall. We just need to help them now. I have the ambulance on the way. Okay. I just need you to do this, okay? So we can get the help for him. Okay. When they arrive, they'll take over. We just need to start CPR now. You are doing great, okay? I just need you to get him on the floor. Okay. From the floor. You got him on the floor? Yeah. Okay. Listen carefully, okay? Make sure that there's nothing under his head. Is he laying flat on his back? Yeah. Okay. Okay. [00:37:11] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:37:12] Speaker 4: She's listening carefully, and I'll tell you how to do chest compressions, okay? [00:37:16] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:37:17] Speaker 4: Place the heel of your hand on the breastbone. This is in the center of the chest, right between the nipples. Okay. Put your other hand on top of that hand. Okay. [00:37:30] Speaker ?: Okay. Okay. [00:37:32] Speaker 4: Okay. Pump. Stop pumping the chest hard and fast at least twice per second and two inches deep. Okay. [00:37:39] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:37:40] Speaker 4: Start counting out loud so I can count with you, okay? We're going to count one, two, three, four, okay? Let me know when you're ready. Okay. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. Count out loud so I can hear you. I'm counting with you. Thank you. One, if it's easier for you, am I on speaker? Yes. Okay. One, two, three, four. Do you know if the front door is open? No, it's locked. I need you to go. Is there anybody else within the home or is it just you? It's all my kids. Okay. Are one of them old enough to go and lock the door? Yeah, it's unlocked. It's unlocked now? Yeah, it's locked. Yeah, it's locked. Okay. [00:39:03] Speaker 1: The protesting that was part of the six-minute delay in Corey Richen's performing CPR. I can't move it. It is just dead weight. Contrast that 911 call with her self-serving text message to her best friend, Chelsea Barney. I tried so hard to save him, his lifeless body on my bedroom floor. I pumped so damn hard, so hard, screaming at him to come back to life that I needed him. None of that happened. None of that happened. She's covering up her involvement in murdering Eric Richens. Recall the alibi narrative at the beginning of the 911 call. Her letting the 911 operator and everyone know that she was not with Eric when he died. I was somewhere else. When she calls her father-in-law, Eric's dad, Gene Richens, what does she say right at the outset? I was sleeping with Ashton, and I came into the room. Gene, I wasn't there. It wasn't me. When Eric's sister, Katie, arrives, he wasn't breathing. I went to bed. I was in Ashton's room. He was having nightmares. I wasn't there. It was not me. Her alibi. Her cover-up. This is the written form that Sheriff's deputies gave Corey Richens' early morning on March 4th to write out what happened. It says, "Describe in detail what you saw, know, or heard of the incident." Where does she start? Eric and I put the kids to bed around 9:00 p.m. We had a drink. In Corey Richens' mind, that's when the incident started. It was the drink, and she knew it because she put the fentanyl in the drink. She didn't start with, "I walked into the bedroom at 3:00 a.m. My husband was not breathing and cold." Describe the incident. The incident for her begins around 9:15 when she has the drink because she knows that is, in fact, when the incident began. And then, more of her self-serving alibi narrative. "It wasn't me, I wasn't there." Before she gets into really what matters. "Intentionally or knowingly caused the death of Eric Richens." We know it was intentional because she planned the immediate reaction. "When she spoke with Eric's sister, Katie, very shortly after medical examiners rolled Eric Richens' body out of his home for the last time, she told Katie that she was going to plan the Midway -- sorry, she was going to follow through with the purchase of the Midway mansion. She was going to sell the home that she was living in. And she had a plan for running Eric's business, C&E. The morning of Eric's death. She had those plans in place because she knew she was going to murder Eric. She had already thought about not only murdering him, but what I'm doing immediately after murdering him. Her plan with the Midway mansion is consistent with her dream of living there with Josh Grossman, running it as an event center, farming and raising Eric's kids. Her plan to sell the home she lived in proves that she had no idea that home was in a trust. And she couldn't sell it. Her plan on running Eric Richens' half of C&E shows that she did not understand the buy-sell agreement, the life insurance coverage on the buy-sell agreement, or that that life insurance coverage went to the trust, not her. The morning Eric died, she had a plan on how she was spending Eric's money and didn't realize it was trust money. We know that Corrie Richens intended to kill Eric. The evidence proves that she intended to kill Eric. In part based on her conversation with Josh Grossman shortly after killing Eric. Corrie Richens asks Josh if he had ever killed anybody. Killed was her word. Not have you ever lost a loved one, how do you agree? Not have you ever walked in and found a dead body unexpectedly. Not how do you respond to a tragic and horrible accident. It is how you, have you killed. And then she asked how it made him feel. She asked that because she was working through her own feelings on killing. And wanted Josh to help her work through those feelings. And never mind that that's a highly selfish question. She's worried about working through her feelings on killing. Never mind Josh Grossman's feelings on having had to have killed in service of his country. It was her feelings that mattered. Walk the dog letter. There's a lot to unpack in this. But right now, let's unpack the fact that Corrie Richens says, Eric gets pain pills and fentanyl from Mexico. She goes on to talk and says, Eric finally told me and asked if Carmen could get him some. Some pain pills and fentanyl from Mexico. Some refers back to pain pills in Mexico from fentanyl. Sorry. Pain pills and fentanyl from Mexico. Corrie Richens knows. Four months after she's been arrested for Eric Richens' murder. A year and a half after she murdered him. She knows that she bought fentanyl. And she has to explain it. And how does she explain it? A year and a half after murdering Eric Richens? She blames it on Eric. Oh, I bought it for Eric. That's the sum of the evidence. Her self-serving statement asking her brother to testify falsely that she brought it from Eric. For Eric. A year and a half after she murdered. Corrie Richens did not tell the 911 dispatcher, hey, I just bought some fentanyl for Eric. She didn't tell the paramedics, he might be dying from the fentanyl I just bought for him. He didn't tell the deputies that responded. He didn't tell Detective Woody. He didn't tell Dr. Ulmer. Didn't tell Christensen. Didn't tell her friends. Didn't tell her family. All the off-ramp she had the opportunity to take to say, hey, I bought the fentanyl for Eric. She doesn't. Because it did not happen. She did not concoct this story until a year and a half after she killed him. And it is a story. It is a fake story that she wants her brother to testify to. There are, of course, other inaccuracies. Corrie Richens, in the orange notebook, writes, self-servingly. When the EMT walked up to me and said he didn't make it, we did all we could, I lost it, I immediately ran to the bathroom. This is the video of when the EMT walked up to her. [00:50:37] Speaker ?: Oh my God. [00:50:39] Speaker 4: Oh my God. Oh my God. [00:50:41] Speaker ?: Oh my God. Don't you leave. Why don't you leave me with this fire? We're just in the middle of it. Apparently members are going to be coming. Yes, Dad. Her family. [00:50:55] Speaker 4: They're coming. The kids are in that door. [00:51:01] Speaker ?: There's two kids that are awake. They're in that door. [00:51:05] Speaker 2: Here, she's going to the left. [00:51:07] Speaker 4: We'll stop it there. [00:51:35] Speaker 1: We could play it for several more minutes. She doesn't immediately or otherwise run to the bathroom and throw up. When people make up stories, they are inconsistent in the retelling. Here, in the orange notebook, Corey Richens says they make the Moscow Mule and the Lemon Drop shot in the kitchen, and then they go to bed and brush their teeth. Here, [00:52:21] Speaker ?: here, [00:52:21] Speaker 1: they drink it in the bedroom, not the kitchen. Corey Richens tells her attorney, it's on the right, she tells her attorney that Eric was on the phone when she went into Ashton's bedroom. But Eric Richens' phone activity tells a different story. Corey Richens repeatedly said that she went into Ashton's bedroom in 9.30, 9.45. Eric was off the phone before 9.00. Eric was off the phone before 9.00. So, in the orange notebook, Corey Richens says that Eric was awake when she went into Ashton's room. And that rambling phone call with Bryce Knudson that Chelsea Barney recorded, she suggests that he was asleep. Because she says when she returned to the bedroom about 3 a.m., Eric was in the exact same position as he was when he fell asleep. That means she was there when he fell asleep, not in Ashton's room. Her story is inconsistent in the details. That proves that much of it is fake. We've read text messages throughout this presentation. We'll continue to publish some more for you to read. None of those text messages were recovered from Corey Richens' phone. They were recovered from Eric's phone, Chelsea Barney's phone, Josh Grossman's phone, but not Corey Richens' phone because they were deleted. That is part of her cover-up. When comparing the contents of the phone with few to no text messages, with the contents of the call detail records, with thousands of text messages, that's how we know they were deleted. when Detective Woody executed the first of the search warrants on April the 13th, 2022, and she informed Corey Richens that toxicology showed that Eric died of fentanyl poisoning, Detective Woody seized her phone. On her phone that she got to replace the seized phone, on the phone that Corey Richens got to replace the seized phone, these are the searches. What was Corey Richens worried about? She was worried about the police recovering all her deleted text messages. Why? They're inculpatory. They would further prove that Corey Richens bought drugs from Carmen Lauber to then murder Eric Richens. her phone searches reveal what she was thinking. She's worried about being investigated. She's worried about having to take a lie detector test. She's worried about my office. She's worried about her seized electronics. Prison is on her mind. So is money. She's interested in the life insurance. We don't know precisely when these searches were conducted. It's just not in the digital data. We have the data we have. But we do know that she hasn't been paid out yet on life insurance. And she started getting paid out in June of 2022. And this phone she got in April of 2022. So the inference is that these searches occurred between April and June of 2022. This one's the most insightful. if someone is poisoned what does it go down on the death certificate as? She didn't search if someone accidentally ODs. She doesn't search if somebody is dead for unknown reasons. She searches if somebody is poisoned because that is what happened. Now we have to prove that Cory Richens intended to murder Eric Richens. Which means we have to prove that Eric Richens did not commit suicide. Cory herself says he didn't. No mental health concerns. But the other evidence proves that it was well. Eric had every reason to live. The first three of which are Carter, Ashton, and Weston. He was a phenomenal father. He protected his boys. He put his money in trust mostly for the benefit of them to protect protect them. He was a protector. He's not leaving his boys. He was also planning for the future. He was a successful business person and he and Cody had future business plans. He had future plans with his sister. They were planning family vacation to Disneyland. He was planning on buying a cabin in the Uintas with his father for the family. Every shred of evidence in this case proves that Eric did not commit suicide. This wasn't an accidental overdose. Eric Richens did not use drugs. He did not use illicit drugs. Set aside THC gummies. Corey Richens said no, never to Deputy Winn and Paramedic Offred. These are people that it would have made sense to tell he used illicit drugs to in the moment as Paramedic Offred's trying to save Eric's life. But no, she was honest. Nope, never. Same thing with Dr. Allmer as they're reviewing the toxicology and trying to explain the fentanyl. Right? Dr. Allmer's like, now there's this fentanyl, really can't explain it. Did he do illicit drugs? No, never. Grossman. She's honest with anybody. She's honest with Grossman. No, Eric did not use drugs. Her best friend? Another person she's honest with. Nope. Life insurance company? No. Chief medical examiner? No. In every bit of evidence that came into this case, everyone who testified and knew Eric well, his friends, his family, no, Eric didn't use illicit drugs. Not even prescription drugs. We call it the outset of closing month. We were looking at the aggravated murder charge. I mentioned the first two elements are murder. And then we get into the two aggravators. So the closing up until now has been the murder charge. That is straight murder. But the state, of course, is charged aggravated murder. So now we'll talk about the two aggravators. The why aggravator, money motive, and the how aggravator administering any substance in a lethal amount. You'll recall Brooke Carrington's testimony. And when she began her forensic accounting analysis, this drew her attention. The number of overdraft and non-sufficient funds transactions beginning in April. That jumped from 1 in September to 37 in October. That jumped from 1 in September to 37 in October to 77 in December. And Brooke Carrington's analysis was the beginning of the downward financial death. Spiral. Then Ms. Carrington analyzed the overall debt and it showed a growing debt picture nearing $8 million in debt when Cory Rich closed on the Midway mansion. All the while she's not paying it off. She's barely sending her creditors any money. And it's never an increasing amount of money. It's flat. The payday loans showed distress to Ms. Carrington. This isn't a traditional mortgage. This isn't even hard money lending. This is give me money today. I'll give you money when you get paid at an extraordinary exorbitant interest rate. And when Brooke Carrington saw this, she sees the line here go flat. Payday lenders would no longer lend to Corey Richards. She was barely paying them off or barely paying towards them. Corey Richards lost money flipping homes. You heard Brooke Carrington testify about the extraordinary growth and unsustainable level of growth for even sophisticated business people. Corey Richards is not a sophisticated business person. She didn't even understand fundamental accounting, fundamental tax reporting. Brooke Carrington plotted out the profitability analysis of each of Corey Richards' home flips. Corey Richards, when she bought a home, when you total up the home she bought and the loan she took out, she started her projects $2 million in the hole. When she was finished her projects, of money that Brooke could trace to expenses, she could only trace about half of it to expenses because Corey Richards did not conduct normal accounting. [01:06:11] Speaker ?: Corey [01:06:11] Speaker 1: has lost $469,000 on her home flips. But recall that Brooke Harrington testifies there's this other pot out there of $400,000 that I know she lost, I just can't trace it to a particular project. when you add those up it's nearly $900,000 lost in flipping homes alone. Recall that Brooke Harrington said that does not count the foreclosures. While deliberating, you'll have this, and on the second page you'll see all the foreclosures. She lost millions more in foreclosures to include foreclosures on Chelsea Barney's home and the Midway mansion. Corey Richards would borrow money by any means necessary. Six times she submitted inaccurate bank statements to lenders to get money. Those bank statements reflected her business account and balances in C&E's business account. This evidence proves the level of financial desperation that Corey Richards was in. in late 2021 and early 2022. The next level of financial desperation is taking $45,000 of your best friends' hard-earned cash tips from waitressing telling her that you are going to apply that as a down payment to a mortgage on her house where she lives with her partner and her children and then diverting it to pay off diverting part of it to pay off fund-fine merchant a payday lender and spending the remainder of it as Brooke Harrington testified on expenses to rehabilitate homes and servicing existing debt. then telling your friend your best friend since middle school that you applied the money to the loan here's the deed signed the deed and then not filing it. You will see if you review that Brooke Harrington's schedule that had all the property transactions you'll see that not only did Corey Richens not file the deed she took out another loan on the house that's the loan that was foreclosed on that resulted in Chelsea Barney her partner and their children getting evicted and losing their life savings. That is the next level of financial desperation that Corey Richens was in January 2022. There's the tax liabilities. In the grand scheme of the amount of debt $150,000 in tax liabilities is de minimis but they were on her mind. There's an interesting little nugget here. She underreported her expenses in flipping homes to her tax account which resulted in her paying more taxes than she would have. One would think a sophisticated business person would think to limit [01:11:08] Speaker ?: to limit [01:11:08] Speaker 1: their tax liability. That's not what interested Corey Richens. What interests her was the appearance of success in business. The appearance of affluence. And by underreporting her expenses it looks like she made more money than she did and she appeared more successful than she was. Because she cared not about being successful she cared about her facade. She cared about appearing successful. You'll recall that C&E distributed $36,000 to pay some of this $150,000 tax liability which Corey Richens then diverted to close on a home. And her tax liability was on her mind two days before murdering Eric Richens she spent over an hour and a half on the phone with the IRS. It was on her mind because if the IRS moved on her tax liabilities Eric would find out. She had to fix it with the IRS before Eric found out. You're familiar. to be a big, I'm not going to close on it. Corey Richens needed cash immediately when she murdered Eric. Eric's long term earning potential, immaterial. She wanted to close on the Midway Mansion. She had no money to refurbish it, flip it right away, to run it as an event center. But she was going to close on it, she needed money now. It doesn't matter if Eric's going to earn a ton of money down the road. That does not help her now with the Midway Mansion, it does not help her now with servicing her existing deck. She needs money now because she's closing on the Midway Mansion on March the 4th. And when she closes on the Midway Mansion, it's worth 2.9 million dollars. She's borrowing 3.2 million dollars. None of it's her money. She's reaching into other people's pockets to get that money. Not only does she want money to purchase the Midway Mansion, she wants $87,000 for herself. So, she takes out $87,000 at closing and how does she spend it? Servicing existing debt and expenses for rehabs. She ultimately closed on the Midway Mansion the day after she murdered Eric. There's an interesting thought here. Did she close on the Midway Mansion in spite of murdering Eric or did she close on it because she murdered Eric? She hedged. She was supposed to close on the 4th, but she didn't want to close until she knew Eric Richens was dead because she knew she would have his money. She knew she could do something with the mansion and that's why when everybody else signed on the 4th, she signed on the 5th, it's unconscionable that she closed in spite of his death, it's unconscionable that she closed because of his death. [01:15:56] Speaker ?: This is probably Corey Richens' true plan for the Midway Mansion. [01:16:07] Speaker 1: And if Eric had not put most of his assets into trust, could have happened. Recall Brooke Harrington's testimony that after closing on the Midway Mansion, Corey Richens' liabilities were right about $8 million and she was in the hole $1.6 million. Her net worth was negative $1.6 million when she murdered Eric. And that her business was in financial distress, her financial enterprise was collapsing, had been collapsing, but for a significant infusion of cash and capital would continue to collapse. That significant infusion of cash and capital was supposed to be Eric Richens' money. You have a fortunate perspective during this case in that you get to observe the defendant. You get to observe Corey Richens. And you observe her affect with some when some witnesses testify. And you observe her affect change when other witnesses testify. You observe that when we played the 911 call during trial, her affect was flat. No emotion. You also observe that when Brooke Harrington testified about the financial distress of her business, she was exercised. Because that testimony pierced her facade. It pierced her facade of being a successful, privileged, and affluent person. It was a narcissistic injury. She was bothered because the world saw that she is indeed not a success and not affluent. The bulk of Eric Richens' estate was in insurance coverage. Some of it got paid out to the trust. Some of it got paid out to Corey Richens. Corey Richens knew this. Knew that much of his estate was insurance coverage. And different than taking money from Eric's home equity, different than taking money from Eric's bank account, to take Eric's insurance money. Eric has to die. Now for the aggravator of administration of any substance, any substance in a lethal amount. The substance here happened to have been fentanyl, could have been any part of the illicit street drug that she bought, happened to be fentanyl, that she administered in a Moscow mill, and a shot, or a shot. But we know that's how she administered it, because it was in his belly. We know it was a lethal amount. The death certificate, fentanyl killed him, that's the substance. Lethal amount can be as small as three nanograms per milliliter. And in this case, he had 15. Five times what can be a lethal amount. That, by the way, is not an accident. That amount of fentanyl shows that Corey Richens wanted Eric not only dead, but good and dead. Now, count to the aggravated murder. The elements are the same as count one. The only difference is attempt. Attempt requires, as the court instructed, a substantial step. There's plenty of substantial steps, from ordering the drugs to making the Moscow mule. Here, the aggravated murder count proves the attempted aggravated murder count. And vice versa. The commonalities between Corey Richens' conduct are not coincidental. In each instance, she purchased drugs from Carmen Lauber a few days out. In each instance, she spoke with the IRS a few days out. Taxes were on her mind. Eric would find out if the IRS was after them. In each case, she had an immediate financial stressor. We just discussed closing on the Midway Mansion. If you look at Brooke Carrington's materials, she had a note due on Chelsea Barney's house shortly before February the 14th. She had an immediate financial stressor in each instance. In each instance, she administered the substance in a way that Eric would ingest it. On Valentine's Day, it was a sandwich. When she murdered him, it was a drink. Notice that she learned from her mistake. One can season a sandwich with fentanyl. Eric can eat it, tell something's wrong, set the fentanyl-laced sandwich aside. You throw a lemon drop shot back. By the time Eric would notice, the shot was in. It was in his body. Moscow Mule, just be good and sure. In each case, she leaves Eric alone. She distances herself from the dirty deed. She leaves the bedroom when she murders him. She leaves the county when she attempts to murder him. That's part of her alibi. Not only can she not be present, she has to be distant. So that when she calls 911, she says, "I wasn't even there. I was in Utah County." And in each case, she has a delayed response. Right? It's the delayed response in calling 911 when she murders him. And it's her delayed response in returning home when she failed to murder him. The element of, again, is it Corey Richens? Yes. She is the person with the means, the motive, and the opportunity. Nobody else. The means, elicit street drugs in the sandwich. The motive, money, fresh start at life. The opportunity. She left the sandwich in Eric's truck. Intentionally or knowingly caused the death of Eric Richens. Right? It's an attempt. So it's attempted to cause the death of Eric Richens. The same reasons. She told Becky Lloyd it would be better if he were dead. She wanted the Michael Jackson stuff, the lethal stuff, the fatal stuff, the stuff that kills. She wanted Eric Richens' life insurance. You only get life insurance when Eric's dead. But she ordered a list of street drugs from Carmen Lauber, who got them from Robert Crozier at the Maverick in Draper. Again, the volume of calls. During the drug purchase between both Corey Richens and Carmen Lauber and Robert Crozier and Carmen Lauber. And recall, we don't have the contents of the texts. Because they were deleted from Corey Richens' phone, deleted from Carmen Lauber's phone, and Crozier lost his phone. The IRS was on her mind. She called him twice, three days before attempting to murder Eric Richens. We know she placed the call to the Mirror Lake Diner to order a potentially fatal sandwich. We know that Corey ordered it. Corey picked it up in person. It was swiped. I don't know if you can tell that's Corey Richens' signature, but notice it's one stroke. There's no pen lift. We'll talk more about that in a minute. So, Corey Richens then distanced herself. She left the sandwich for Eric, and she drove an hour away to meet up with Josh Grossman on Valentine's Day. There's another commonality between the attempted murder and the murder, of course. They're big days. Losing your husband on Valentine's Day, that garners extra sympathy. Extra attention. Losing your husband the same day you're supposed to close on the biggest purchase of your life, that garners extra attention. The type of attention that Corey Richens relishes in. You heard Cody Richens testify how Eric was a cowboy when it came to injury or illness. He worked through it all. He cowboyed up. Cowboys don't go to the hospital unless they're near death. They don't even think about going to the hospital unless they're near death. And at 11:33, Eric's thinking about going to the hospital. And then, all the activity, the physical activity on his phone ceases for 87 minutes in the middle of a busy work day. Shortly after activity resumes in Eric's phone, he calls his best friend and business partner, Cody Wright. Recall Cody said he could hear the fear in Eric's voice. A fear he'd only heard twice before, both times associated with death. A fear he heard when Eric told him his mother had passed away. And a fear he heard when someone who struck Eric's truck in an automobile accident. And Eric thought that person might have passed away. He then spoke with his hunting buddy and close friend, Josh Kays. You know and learn a lot about somebody when you hunt together and travel together. And Josh Kays said Eric sounded somber and serious. Josh asked Eric perhaps the two most pertinent questions. If he was going to the hospital and what was he going to do about it? Let's turn to Ali Staking singular, not plural. Clearly, close with Corey. Friends since middle school, you observed the banter when Miss Staking was testifying, the banter between her and Corey Richens. It was friendly. [01:31:06] Speaker ?: It was friendly. [01:31:08] Speaker 1: She's still friendly with her. And Ali Staking testified about how a week or two after Valentine's Day when Corey Richens attempted to murder Eric. When I questioned her, she said, well, Eric jokingly, kind of jokingly, maybe jokingly, said that Corey Richens tried to poison me. Perhaps joking. But Corey Richens' reaction is what was important here. Corey said, no. Corey said, no. She got defensive. Defensive. That is not what happened. It was like an allergic reaction or something. It wasn't at all dramatic. She is covering up her poisoning. Then when defense counsel questioned Miss Staking, Miss Staking kind of backed off the jokiness of Eric's comment and attributed the jokiness to everyone else. Ali Staking said, defense counsel questioned, what did he tell you? That he believed Corey had tried to poison him. Maybe it was one of those joking things like, I'm sending a message to Corey Richens. I know what you tried to do. I'm joking about it, but I'm going to let you know. Maybe he was serious. Either way comes back to Corey Richens trying to poison him on Valentine's Day. Corey Richens repeatedly tries to cover up that she tried to murder Eric on Valentine's Day. She says she was home with him. She tells her best friend, Chelsea Barney, I was home with him. She was not. She was with Josh Grossman. She did not come home until after 6:30 PM. She was saying he never broke out in hives or used an EpiPen. She was saying he never broke out in hives or used an EpiPen. That means he broke out in hives and used an EpiPen. When she spoke with her mother on August the 22nd, when she says she didn't put a love note and the sandwich in the front seat of his truck, she put a love note and the sandwich in the front seat of his truck. She's trying to distance herself. She is trying to cover up. She is trying to deflect. When Eric said he was thinking about heading to the hospital, what did she say? Take a nap. Call me when you're up. She's saying that thinking he will take a nap and not wake up. When he does, Eric texts Corey. He's asking if she's home because he had just said I'm going to hospital. And then stopped communicating for nearly two hours. He's figuring she was coming home to assist him, but she wasn't. She's in Provo waiting for a cabinet installer guy. She says then she's going to head home in twenty minutes. Nearly two hours later, question mark, where are you? You were heading home twenty minutes ago. She responds, thanks for answering, did you call? You didn't call. She thinks he's heading home. She's not. She's trying to figure out what to do. She's trying to figure out what to do because Eric survived. She had not planned on that. She is delaying to make her plan. And then at 6:34, Eric texts, we're headed in there. Food is on the front seat of his truck. The same place she left the poison sandwich with the love note. Eric Richens is telling her, "I know what you did." That is the attempted aggravated murder. That is the attempted murder. Now, of course, we have the two aggravators. They're the same. Same as with the aggravated murder. The money motive, same. Similar financial distress, same. There's also the first started life motive, right? That hasn't changed a bit. Josh Grossman. It's Josh Grossman on Valentine's Day, and he's Josh Grossman on March the 4th. Money motive, the same. Fresh started life motives. Now, the second aggravator, administration of any substance, any substance in a lethal amount. Recall Dr. Eric Christensen's testimony that hives, EpiPen, all consistent with an opiate-like or an opiate-allergic-like response, a pseudo-allergic response. Hives, EpiPen, along with zero activity, shows that Corey Richens attempted to administer the illicit street drugs that she bought three days earlier from Carmen Lauber in a lethal amount. [01:38:34] Speaker ?: She just failed. [01:38:34] Speaker 1: She just failed. Next guy. Okay, the insurance fraud. There are two insurance frauds. Let me distinguish them, please, for you. The first one is a scheme charge, a fraud scheme. The second one is a fraud claim charge. Count three, the scheme charge relates to the $100,000 true stage policy. We're going to put it up in a minute. The fraud claim charge relates to the $250,000 true stage policy. The forgery, which we will get to, is a forgery related to count three, the scheme charge. Let me unpack them now. Okay. Different than the aggravated murder and attempted aggravated murder, I'll address all elements of the insurance fraud scheme kind of at once because they all jump out of this single page. And the scheme is quite simple. Corey Richens wanted to murder Eric Richens, thus took out an insurance policy on his life to get money for murdering Eric Richens. Then she murdered Eric Richens. And then she submitted a claim to get the money. That is the scheme. And we know it was Corey Richens because everything on this application for this $100,000 true stage insurance policy returns to Corey Richens. Corey Richens received the application because she was a member of PedFed. The application was addressed to her at her work address. So she would have been the one who received it. If there was any questions about it, any further follow-up mailings about it, they would go to her and not to Eric. This number, this applicant information is all her. But the partner information is all her as well. Her work address, no email address where they could contact Eric. We'll get to the social security number in a minute. The primary phone, that's not Eric's phone. You'll see that Eric's phone is 801-792-9317. And when you look at this closely during deliberations, you'll see that was originally a 7 that she later marked up to read like an 8. She initially wrote his correct phone number, then did not want anyone from true states to call him. So she changed the 7 to an 8. So that Eric would never know that this policy existed. After Cory Richens took a quarter million dollars out of Eric's home equity, he put all of his insurance that he knew about into the trust. If Eric had filled this out, the beneficiary would have been the trust, not Cory Richens. Then we'll get to the signature. That's the fraud count five as well. It plays into this. We'll talk to it during count three. But it's also the freestanding charge in count five. Let's go to the next page. The social security number was blacked out for privacy reasons on the application we just reviewed. But you'll recall Ann Coates testifying that the last six digits were transposed. We all know our own social security numbers. We often get a little bit confused on our spouses. Eric did not sign the application. Matt Throckmorton, the handwriting expert. Eric did not sign it, it was probably a simulated forgery. We'll call his testimony that Eric Richens has pen lifts in his signature. The forged one didn't have any pen lifts. You'll see Corey Richens' signature throughout this case. No pen lifts. Then Corey Richens filed a claim for this $100,000 two-stage policy. It's actually the same claim for both policies. And she said she really does not know where her husband, Eric, got the fentanyl from. Of course she knows. She ordered it from Carmen Lauber. That is the fraud scheme. Plan to kill Eric. Fill out life insurance so I can get money for killing Eric. Kill out, kill Eric, kill Eric and then claim the money. Now for the insurance fraud claim count, count four. This is the true stage $250,000 policy. This is the claimant's statement. Filled out. Corey Richens' beneficiary. Corey Richens' email. Corey Richens' address. Everything about this claim says Corey Richens is submitting this claim. And then, like before, the fraud here, the falseness of it is she says she doesn't know where the fentanyl came from. When in fact she ordered illicit street drugs from Carmen Lauber. And indeed later in the walk the logs, dog letter admits to admitting, asking Carmen for fentanyl. And finally, count five, the forgery charge. We've discussed most of the forgery when we discussed count three. But there's this without the authority to do so element. It's not a forgery if Eric gave Corey Richens permission. The state has to prove that Corey Richens did not sign Eric's name with permission, with authority. All of the evidence in this case proves that Corey Richens does not ask for permission she takes. She took with the home equity loan. She took other people's money. She's a taker, not an asker. Finally, like I mentioned earlier, Eric Richens, the evidence proves, would have put the trust as the beneficiary, the trust as the beneficiary, not Corey Richens. If he had given permission, it would have been permission to make the trust the beneficiary. That's the forgery charge. Let's please now turn to Corey's motive for a fresh start at life. You heard the instructions. The state does not have to prove any motive, except for the pecuniary game motive, because it's an aggravator. But motive explains why Corey murdered Eric Richens, why she attempted to murder him. Motive explains a lot here. These texts at this point are familiar. The day after Corey Richens speaks with Becky Lloyd and tells Becky Lloyd, Eric, she would be better if Eric were dead. She texts Josh Grossman that she's in love with him, a man, not her husband. I was divorced right now and asked you to marry me, would you? That's the day after the attempted murder. If he could just go away, and you could just be here, life would be so perfect. We're familiar with this text. We've read it already today. I ask you to read it again. This time replace the word divorce with the word murder. This graphic shows a juxtaposition between Josh and Eric that is insightful. That is insightful to what Corey thinks about each of them. In each instance, she is texting, well, she is kind of simultaneously texting. These are laid out chronologically. She is simultaneously texting with both Josh and Eric about closing on the Midway Mansion. And she's so excited with, she is so excited texting with Josh. I can't believe it. I want to celebrate with you. Love you, love you, love you. Thank you for always being my support, shoulder, and rock. I need you all the time. Some things I could never do without your encouragement. You have no idea how much I appreciate you. Eric tries to reach out. You want a shot? Mm-mm, can't. Sorry, dizzy. Then right back to Josh Grossman. To me, you're worth millions a year. I'm honored to be your best friend, your lover, your go-to. Life is going to be different, I promise. You're one hell of a patient person. I hate your hard days. I wish I could be there to turn them around for you. Can I try Friday? Give me a few days. Hang in there until then, please. By Friday, of course, Eric Richens was dead. Corey had murdered him. She's right. Life's going to be different. She promised him. It was. Then, 16 days after Corey Richens murdered Eric. Are we there yet? And then, one month later, Corey's ready for Eric. Sorry, Corey's ready for Josh to be her husband. Josh Grossman loved Corey Richens. He believed that she loved him. Not sure that's true. [01:52:43] Speaker ?: He believed that he loved him. [01:52:45] Speaker 1: You saw him testify. He was gutted. He was a grown-ass man, gutted. You also observed Corey Richens' affect when he testified. Flat. The evidence proves that Corey Richens murdered, attempted to murder, Eric Richens. And that she committed two counts of insurance fraud and forgery. The evidence does not support any other rational explanation. The state, since its opening statement, has stressed the requirement to consider the evidence that the evidence that has been admitted and not what the attorneys say. What the attorneys say, insinuate, speculate, is not evidence. Please let me show you why the state has stressed this. In the defense's opening statement, counsel said that the evidence will show that Corey Richens had a one-half interest in the Willow Court home. There is no evidence of that and, indeed, contrary evidence. Defense counsel said that the evidence would show that Eric was always checking Corey's phone. There's no evidence of that. Defense counsel said that the evidence will show Eric and Corey Richens went to marriage counseling. There's no evidence of that. Defense counsel said that the evidence will show in the few weeks before Eric died, his closest friend thought that he and Corey Richens were the happiest together that the friend had ever seen. There's no evidence of that. Defense counsel said that the night Eric died, he and Corey Richens had their drinks and set their cups in the sink. There's no evidence of that. Defense counsel said that the evidence will show that the cups were sitting in the sink and the nanny put them in the dishwasher the next morning and they still had fluid in them. There's no evidence of that. Defense counsel said that Eric talked to a friend named Scott Wagner at 10 p.m. the night he died. There's no evidence of that and, indeed, contrary evidence. Defense counsel said that the evidence would show Eric unlocked Corey Richens' phone at 10:30 p.m. the night he died And this is the last thing that he did. There's no evidence of that. Defense counsel said that the evidence would show investigators interviewed Corey over and over and over again about what happened the night that Eric died. There's no evidence of that. Defense counsel said that the evidence would show that law enforcement secretly recorded Corey Richens' phone conversations for over a year after Eric died. There's no evidence of that and, indeed, contrary evidence. Defense counsel said that you will hear Corey Richens telling her family that she purchased pain pills for Eric at his request. You did not hear that. Although she did write it in the walk the dog letter. Four months after she was arrested. In listening to defense counsel's closing argument, please, only consider the evidence that has been admitted. [01:57:12] Speaker 5: In the early morning hours of March 4, 2022, the House was quiet. Corey Richens fell asleep in her young son's room, like many parents do. At some point in the night, she gets up and walks back down the hallway to her bedroom. She slips back into bed beside her husband. She settles in next to him. She reaches over and he feels cold. Eric Richens, the father of her children, the man that she has built a life with. Something feels wrong. She pulls the blanket up around him. But something still isn't right. He feels heavy. She turns on the light. And when she looks at her husband, really looks at him, she realizes something is terribly wrong. And in that instant, in that bedroom, in the quiet early of the morning, Corey Richens' world collapsed. Reasonable doubt. It's not just a slogan. It's not just a suggestion. It's a constitutional shield that protects the innocent and prevents the state from punishing without truth. And it's the state that has that high burden, the highest burden under the law to prove each and every single element of each and every charged offense beyond a reasonable doubt. The state stood up on day one and they told you they were going to prove that Corey Richens had the means, the motive, and the opportunity to kill Eric Richens. And we're going to talk about each of these, but first, I want to talk a little more about reasonable doubt. I've told juries for a long time that one way to understand reasonable doubt is, are there other reasonable explanations as to what happened? As you look at the evidence, if there are other reasonable explanations, this is reasonable doubt. And you have to find Corey not guilty. I put to you that every fact that the state has put forth to say that Ms. Richens is guilty has another reasonable explanation. Let's go back to March 3rd, 2022. From everything we've heard during this trial, Corey and Eric were happy that night. They were celebrating. Corey was just about to close on the Midway Mansion. Rightly or wrongly, she believed that this was going to be the deal that put her over the top. The deal that had made everything she'd done with her business, the good, the bad, and the ugly, all worth it. The night of March 3rd, they have a celebratory drink. They go to bed. And then Corey hears one of her sons cry out. And like parents all over the world do, she goes in to lie down on the floor of her son's room. An alibi or the truth? She wasn't inconsistent when she told this story. She told everyone I was lying in Ash's room. I was lying down with him. What does reason tell you? What does experience tell you? When she wakes up, she goes back to her room. Eric appears to be asleep. We don't know for sure what happens over the next 15 minutes or so. The state asks you to leap to conclusions about what she was doing during that time. Yet they have not shown you any evidence of this. They just tell you to believe it. But what does reason tell you? She gets up. She goes to the bathroom. She picks up her phone. We all pick up our phone all the time. We've been away from it for an hour or two. She goes to the bathroom. Maybe she walks to the kitchen. Maybe she gets a drink of water. Maybe she lets out the dog. And then she goes back to her bedroom. Phone probably in hand. Gets into the bed next to her husband. Again, realizes he's cold. Pulls up the blanket. Realizes something's wrong and turns on the light. It probably takes a moment or two for her brain to register what she's seen. And then she makes that call that nobody ever wants to make. She calls 911. A big part of this state's case is that Ms. Richens is not grieving properly. You heard this from a couple of different witnesses, two or three. What does that mean? I was unexpectedly widowed when I was not much older than Corey, and I had two opinions. How do you judge someone in that moment? If I've learned one thing during this trial, I've learned I didn't grieve right. I didn't know that, but it's clear now that I didn't. They want you to look at a woman in the worst moment of her life and to judge her grief. There is no wrong way to grieve. They're asking you to judge how she is acting at that moment. And then use that moment of evidence of guilt. In the opening we pointed out that the state looks at facts one way and sees a witch. But if you look at those facts another way, you see a widow. Here's an example. Hands over her face, curled up. A witch hiding, hiding because she's done something wrong. Or a widow. Hiding and blocking out what has just happened to her. What has just happened to her children. What has just happened to her family and to her life. Look familiar? Portrayals of women grieving in art. Portrayals of women in grief. The state tells you during evidence that, oh, she didn't immediately talk to Jean Richens when he came to the house because she felt so guilty she couldn't talk to him. Or was it because she didn't want to tell a father his son had died? Oh, she didn't tell the boys when she should have. It was weird. She didn't go talk to them. They were in the playroom. Again, because she felt guilty. Or because she was dreading the most difficult conversation. The conversation nobody, no mother, ever wants to have with her young sons. Their father is dead. The father that everyone agrees was a wonderful father is gone. And she has to tell those little boys, you're never going to see him again. Believe me. That conversation may be the worst moment in a mother's life. How can a woman be judged on how she handles that moment? You heard her friend Allie staking. When Allie arrived at the home that day, she said Corey was clearly upset. She said she was distraught. This is someone who's known her since junior high. Not an officer who met her five minutes ago. She said Corey was acting as you would expect. That night, friends came over to talk about Eric, to drink to Eric. Awake is what the Irish call it. The state wants you to leap to the conclusion that that night, Corey was celebrating Eric's death. You heard Allie stalking. They were celebrating Eric's life. They kept it light for the boys. They were dancing. They were smiling. All of them were. Even Eric's sister. Can we not smile in our grief? They want to tell you no. But reason and experience tells you differently. Let's talk about the investigation. The investigation in this matter was nothing but sloppy. It was driven by bias. Did you notice during the state's closing they didn't really even talk about the investigation? Instead, they speculated. What was in people's heads? What were they thinking? Speculation, conjecture, not proof. Instead of looking at the evidence to determine what happened, the state has, they determined what happened and then they found the evidence to support it. This is confirmation bias. Confirmation bias is when you favor evidence that supports a belief and ignore evidence that contradicts it. This is how, that is how this entire case was investigated. Working backwards from a conclusion. It started on March 4th. Detective Woody, before she's even entered the home. Amy Richens tells her they think Corey is somehow involved. Then both Katie and Amy Richens tell Detective Woody they think this is because she recently found out about a trust Eric created. Immediately, this influenced this investigation. So what happened that first day, they found nothing to support foul play. Corey tells them he was a user of THC gummies, that maybe he used one that night. They never ask where the gummies are. They do a cursory search of the bedroom and bathroom. They admit that they don't look in places where the gummies were found a month later. High up in the bathroom. High above the refrigerator. High up in the laundry room. Somewhere in a pocket of either Corey or Eric's jacket in a closet. All places where they would have been put out of reach of children. But they didn't find any of them that day. You know what else they didn't do? They didn't secure the scene. They moved things around. They told you they didn't have probable cause to search the whole house. We couldn't search the whole house. All we could do was look in the bedroom and the bathroom. But they could have asked for consent. Corey gave them consent when they asked to search one place outside of the bedroom. The entire house could have been searched that day. But they didn't do it. They didn't even ask. What else happens that morning? Officer Nguyen, he does his little, well not little, but his death checklist. He says, did he have any history of prescription abuse? Did he have any history of illicit drug use? And what does Corey tell him? No. How easy would it have been to just say yes? If she had just killed him with illicit drugs, why in the name of God did she just not say yes? Had she said yes, we probably wouldn't all be sitting here today. She didn't say yes because she did not know how he had died. Over the last four years, they've gone back to that house 10 more times. And they still can't tell you what happened early morning of March 4th, 2022. 10 warrants. That's a lot. That's not typical. They were still searching for evidence on February 9th of this year. Two weeks before trial. Four years of investigation. And they are still trying to find evidence to make their case because they know they don't have enough. They're still trying to prove Corey Richmond's guilty. So let's talk about Todd Gabler. In comes Todd Gabler, the private investigator. Jeff O'Driscoll told you, well, he was an investigator for the estate. Just the civil case. Seriously. He's putting trackers on the car of Corey, her mother, her brother. He's trying to track Carmen Lager's car. He's providing evidence to the police. Detective Woody testified that this information from the private investigators what helped advance their investigation. He testified he was in the house alone numerous times, finding things the police didn't, not using gloves, calling law enforcement when he found things. He said he didn't need a babysitter while he did all these things. Which is different than what Clint Benson told you. He said nobody was ever in that house without me being there. That wasn't true. What he told you wasn't true. Todd Gabler was in and out of that house numerous times by himself. He also told you that he was completely fair and unbiased, testing two hypotheses. His hypotheses: suicide and homicide. He ignored any others, including accident. And how did he handle this unbiased testing of hypotheses? You heard Josh Grossman. He said the first time he talked to Todd Gabler, Todd Gabler said right out of the gate, Corey killed Eric. Josh told you that tainted what he thought of next. How does it not taint an interview when your opening line is, oh, Corey killed Eric, so now let's tell me what you have, what you know. Josh told you he started looking back at things differently than he had before because of that. He tracked, like I said, he tracked Corey's car, he tracked her family's car, he tracked Carmen's lobber car. He didn't track Cody Wright's car. He had more to gain from Eric's car, he had more to gain from Eric's death than anyone. He didn't track anyone involved in the civil case regarding the trust. He only tracked people that he thought might lead to information for law enforcement. Did he follow up on Eric's trip to Mexico shortly before the death? No. Did he go to Mexico? Did he try and figure out where Eric had been in Sonora, Mexico? No. Nothing about that investigation was unbiased. Nothing. He passed it all on to law enforcement and then, then what he did is he said to law enforcement, you should talk to Carmen Lobber. She's on the ropes in drug court. This would be a really good time to interview her because she would be very likely to be compliant at this time. Everything about this investigation was led by the Richens family. They started on day one and they continued until trial. They are the ones who initially hired and paid for experts. Their private investigator gave information to the police. And by the way, Gabler testified that he followed all the rules of being a private investigator. And that may very well be true. But he doesn't have to operate under the Constitution. There's a reason that we have rights under the Constitution. There is a reason that law enforcement has to get warrants to enter your home, to take electronics, to search your house. It is to protect the citizens of our country. It is to protect the innocent. Sidestepping these important constitutional rights by hiring a private investigator, who then let law enforcement know what to do, taints this entire investigation. And you know what? That is terrifying. It's terrifying. If someone has enough money to hire a PI, they can circumvent our constitutional rights, dig into every aspect of our rights, of our lives, and turn it over to police. We have a constitution for a reason. It's to protect us all. I want to talk about the lead investigator, Jeff O'Driscoll. Here's what he testified that his investigation consisted of. He got assigned to the case sometime in March of 2023. He got a search warrant for some medical records. He thinks he got a search warrant for a couple of cell phones. He interviewed Chelsea Barney, where they discovered that they were wrong about some text messages. Law enforcement was wrong with what they thought they were looking for. He interviewed someone named Jake Sorensen, who must not have had anything important to say, because we never heard from him. Then he interviews Carmen Lauber, because he was told to by the private investigator. That's it. That was the investigation. He didn't investigate any other leads. He didn't attempt to corroborate information, particularly in the letter that we saw that Corey wrote to her mother, the walk the dog letter. Now, he told you he didn't need to corroborate that, because he didn't get that letter until after Corey was arrested. So, you know, I guess the state was done. You wouldn't want to start looking for things that might show her innocent. You've arrested her. Interestingly, they were still executing search warrants. They were still trying to find evidence for guilt, but they weren't looking at any evidence that might show innocence. It is absolutely possible that everything she said in that letter was true. In fact, at least three things in that letter were corroborated by the state's own witnesses. But they didn't investigate it. Again, ignore what might contradict your theory. Confirmation bias. Reasonable doubt. Also remember that letter never went to anyone. So it was nothing more than thoughts on paper. That's all that letter was. What else did he do? He didn't interview the person Eric was talking to in Mexico the night of his death. And we'll come back to that. But he didn't follow up on that. He said that. I didn't follow up on where Eric went in Mexico or who he was communicating with in Mexico when he was there. He didn't investigate what Eric did or where he went on February 14th, 2022. He didn't follow up to see if, did Eric go to the hospital that day? In fact, he did nothing regarding that day. Nothing. What else? He didn't find fentanyl anywhere. Allegedly, there were 90 to 120 pills of something. At least oxycodone. Where were they? I guess somebody took them. But they didn't have them. So whatever pills Carmen may or may not have provided to Corey were gone. They no longer existed. They couldn't find or test those pills. And we do know that she bought oxycodone. But you know what? There was no oxycodone in Eric's stomach that night. So instead, Detective O'Driscoll says, well, we wanted to corroborate Carmen's story. I mean, we were going to corroborate it. We weren't just going to go by it. The story that they fed her, they want to corroborate the truth. They wanted to corroborate a story. Again, let's find what confirms our theory. Let's ignore what doesn't. Confirmation bias. Reasonable doubt. Sitting here in this courtroom after four years of investigation, there was an awful lot that O'Driscoll just could not tell you. Things he couldn't remember. He couldn't remember what people had told him in interviews. For example, he was asked, did you interview Eric's allergy doctor? Well, yes, but I can't remember what he said. Well, that might have been important because he testified that the evidence in the house belonged to the children. Well, maybe because Eric had recently used his a couple of weeks earlier when he had an allergic reaction. He said, well, if I could have a few minutes, I could find out what was said. I could give you more information. We were in trial. He was on the stand four years after Eric had died. Three years after he'd been appointed as lead investigator. And either he wasn't prepared to testify or he just didn't know. He is the lead investigator. Now the state elicited testimony from him that how could he possibly know the entire case is just too much. I couldn't know all of that information. But he's the one they put on. He's the one they relied on to testify about this investigation. You didn't hear from anyone else about the last three years of that investigation. They chose him. You know what else he couldn't testify to? He couldn't testify how the fentanyl got into Eric's system. He said, well, he ingested it. There was no evidence, none, that fentanyl was put in a drink. That was argument. Argument is not evidence. And they waited until closing to tell you, oh, she put it in a drink. Without any evidence to back that up. Okay. She made him a drink that night. But that's it. She made him a drink. There's no evidence that fentanyl was in that drink. And the lead detective who couldn't tell you anything, he sat through this entire trial. He heard every witness testify. He had an opportunity to form his answers or reform his answers based on what he knew other people had said. And yet, he still didn't know the evidence. I want to talk a minute about deleted texts and the phone searches just quickly. Deleted texts. Deleted texts. They said there were deleted texts off Corey's phone. And it looks like that probably was true. Why would you delete texts off your phone? Maybe because you were having an affair over the last two years? You might want to delete that off your phone before your whole husband's family finds out about it. Maybe because she was buying oxycodone. I mean, she asked Carmen for pain pills. Doesn't mean she killed her husband. But you probably want that off of your phone. The phone searches. So the evidence showed that Corey found out on April 13th that Eric died of a fentanyl overdose. And that's the day they took her phone and she gets a new phone. These searches are all done on that new phone. Searches of how much fentanyl does it take to kill someone? Or how much fentanyl is a lethal overdose? I don't remember exactly. Yeah, because she just found out her husband died of a lethal overdose of fentanyl. You might want to know what that means. And she texted other things. They said, oh, she texted about women's prisons. Of course she's worried. An innocent person would be worried. Anyone would be worried if they just found out that they are a suspect in a homicide investigation. She would have been scared to death. She was looking for information based on what she found out after Eric died. All right, what do we know about those last few hours before Eric's death? It's not a lot, but we do know some things from the autopsy and the toxicology reports. We know that he had fentanyl in both his blood and his stomach. We know he had quetiapine and alcohol only in his stomach and not his blood. So this means the quetiapine had to be taken after the fentanyl. Had they been taken together, they would have both been in his blood. We know there was no histamine response, no anaphylaxis, so he had not had an allergic reaction to anything in his body that night, including fentanyl. The state wants you to believe that the allergic reaction he had on February 14th was to fentanyl. If he had an allergic reaction on February 14th, he would have had one again three weeks later. Now, I know the toxicologist testified, well, you don't have an allergic reaction every time, and you can look at her testimony, but it was a little bit hard to understand, but I believe she was talking about, you know, you might eat peanuts for a lot of times and then have an allergic reaction, and then it starts. Once you have an allergic reaction to something, it doesn't typically go away. We know he had nor fentanyl on his body, and this is because his body had started to metabolize the fentanyl. The state's toxicologist told you that the fentanyl could have been left over from a previous use. That was a possibility. Another reasonable possibility. The fentanyl was there from a previous use. That was the evidence. That is reasonable doubt. What else do we know from the ME and the toxicologist? Well, we know that the fentanyl was not put in a drink. And how do we know this? There was only fentanyl in the blood and not alcohol. The state's toxicologist leaned toward the fact that maybe Eric didn't even drink alcohol, that the alcohol in his stomach was post-mortem decomposition. But the other scenario that she said that was possible was that Eric took the fentanyl, then took the quetiapine, had a small amount of alcohol. She testified that it would take 15 to 60 minutes for fentanyl to make its way into the blood, that alcohol takes 15 to 30 minutes to make its way into the blood. So if the alcohol and fentanyl were taken together, they both would have been there at the same time in the blood. But just the fact that one reasonable possibility is that the fentanyl was taken before the quetiapine and the alcohol gives you reasonable doubt that it was placed in a drink an hour earlier. Now the state's saying, well, maybe she put it in a non-alcoholic drink. So their celebratory drink maybe didn't have alcohol in it. There's no evidence of that. They're throwing around a lot of theories. Why is that? Because they don't have one. They don't know what happened. Dr. Christensen and Dr. Ulmer testified that the manner of death could not be determined. This is really important. Dr. Christensen testified the ME's office didn't know enough about Eric's history to determine if it was an accident. They also didn't have enough information to determine it was a homicide. The ME had at least a reasonable doubt as to the cause of death. And the ME isn't held to the high standard that the state is. And there was no evidence that the autopsy couldn't have been amended at a later date if additional information was received. The ME testified, the ME testified, excuse me, the ME didn't tell you that they couldn't amend the autopsy. He just told you they didn't. What else didn't they do? Why didn't they do a hair follicle test? Dr. Christensen said, well, we don't do that. Unless we're asked to. Who would you be asked to do that by law enforcement? Again, Summit County was only looking for evidence to confirm their theory. Evidence to support that Corey was behind Eric's death. They did not want to look for evidence that contradicted that theory. Had they done that test, we might have our answer. Confirmation bias. All right, let's start with the means. The state did not and cannot prove that Corey ever purchased fentanyl. Carmen Lauber, interestingly, they barely mentioned Carmen Lauber in their closing. The only witness who can put fentanyl into Corey's hand. Let's talk about her testimony. Admittedly, a lot of it was painful to watch. And in some ways, you know, she's sympathetic. But she is looking at multiple long prison sentences. And her only way out, her only way was to testify at this trial. But what she could not do was put fentanyl in Corey Richens' hands. She told you that she had no memory of what actually took place in 2022. During those interviews, she told detectives over and over again, my brain is fried. I've been using drugs since sixth grade. My memory is gone. So what she testified to you wasn't what she remembered. She admitted on the stand that what she testified to is what she had been shown, what she had been told. Detective O'Driscoll told you that Carmen Lauber could not remember the purchase of drugs after Eric had died. When asked by Ms. Nestor if at least one of the times that Carmen allegedly purchased drugs from Mr. Crozier and brought them to Corey was after Eric's death, his response was, her testimony was not that. She didn't remember it that way. We found digital evidence that supported that. You know what? She did testify to that. She testified at length and in detail about something that even Detective O'Driscoll said she didn't remember. Carmen Lauber was not able to tell you that she bought fentanyl. She agreed on the stand that it was the detectives that first put the word fentanyl in her mouth, in her head. She was told by detectives in this case that she bought fentanyl. Eric died of fentanyl. You bought drugs. You bought fentanyl. She took that story and she ran with it because she had everything to lose. And O'Driscoll, Detectives O'Driscoll and Detective Maynard told her, you are getting a big giant get-out-of-jail-free card. And what do you have to do to get that big giant get-out-of-jail-free card? Give them the details that will ensure Corey gets convicted of murder. You heard that from O'Driscoll's own mouth. He tried to explain it away. But he went in and he told this woman, get-out-of-jail-free card. Give us the details to ensure Corey gets convicted of murder. She had to tell them that. She had to tell you that. She had to say she purchased fentanyl. The detectives walked into those interviews not to find out what happened, but to get Ms. Lauber to confirm what they already had decided happened. Again, confirmation bias. She told them at that first interview, I literally never dealt with fentanyl. And she had reason not to deal with fentanyl. She told you that. She had a daughter who had overdosed from fentanyl. She was afraid of fentanyl. She told them that Corey asked for something for an investor's bad back. Maybe it was for Eric. But she told them that Eric, that Corey asked for an investor's bad back. And that later she asked for something stronger. She asked for the Michael Jackson drug. She told them Corey never asked for fentanyl. She admitted that she got the word fentanyl from detectives O'Driscoll and Maynard. She told them she couldn't remember. She asked them to lay it out for her, to put the pieces of the puzzle together, to write it down and I'll sign it. They argued that was because, well, she didn't want to write it in her cell. That's why they wanted us to write it. Well, she could have written it right there at the table, I suppose. But you know what else? Remember? She also told the assistant United States attorney basically the same thing. Put it together for me. And the U.S. attorney or the assistant U.S. attorney said, oh, we don't do it that way. You have to tell us what you remember. They literally offered a big, giant, get-out-of-jail-free card. In the state's last question to Detective O'Driscoll, they brought up the house, the TV show, The House of Cards. But who held all of the cards in this case? Jeff O'Driscoll told you. Carmen Lauber held all of the cards. Their entire House of Cards is being held up by her. And now at trial three years later, she comes in here and says, she bought oxycodone once and fentanyl three times. Oh, she had her story down. She told it very nicely on direct. But when pressed, she couldn't remember anything. Not from 2022. Not from 2023. She couldn't remember on Friday what she testified to on Thursday. And, you know, I didn't ask her about her mental health or her learning disability to be mean. I asked her because it explains why she was so easily convinced by law enforcement as to what she needed to do and what she needed to say. She described her learning disability as low education. Well, you can decide what that means for yourself. But one possibility is she has an intellectual disability. And if that is the case, she is more vulnerable to suggestibility than most people. Easy to manipulate. And they took advantage of this. We all saw it. They did too. But they had to find someone who would confirm their theory. But you know what? After all of this, there were a handful of things that Carmen Lauber was consistent about. There were a few. Corey asked for some pain medication. Corey said that in the Walk the Dog letter. Then she told you, I brought oxycodone from Susan Kohler on February 11th. Prescription, oxycodone. Now, that's important because if Corey had any pain pills before February 14th, these were likely what she had. She said, Corey never asked for fentanyl. She said that in all of her interviews. Carmen never asked Robert Crozier for fentanyl. She said that. She was consistent with that. That she bought pills from Robert Crozier. That the pills she got from him were light green. 15 to 20 milligram oxycodone pills. When she bought from him again, she asked for more of the same. Those are the things she said throughout. Everything she said, every other thing she said has changed multiple times. It changed again while she was on the stand. Now she says the number of purchases were more. That changed. The date changed. For the first time she says that Crozier was the first one to say the word fentanyl. It's the first time we've heard that. It wasn't in the interviews. She's not a truthful person. There were a couple of little things she laid on the stand about. Not super important, but I'm going to point them out because they were just untruths. When I asked her if she was on any medication for her anxiety or any other illnesses, she said no. But then later, when Mr. Bloodworth asked her, she said yes, she was on medications. They were in her car and in her purse. She told you Nancy Peterson drove to buy the drugs because she didn't have a driver's license. When we showed her that photo was reversed and that she was driving, did you notice how smoothly that story changed? Oh, well, yeah, I drove one way, she drove the other. By the way, where's Nancy Peterson? There was someone who might have been able to confirm Carmen's story, but we didn't hear from her. What else did Carmen lie about? She sat on that stand and she told you, I never violated drug court after I got out, my get-out-of-jail-free card in May of 2023. But then when confronted, she had to admit, oh, yeah, I did. That's right. She told you, well, I was holding a can of alcohol, but I didn't drink it. When confronted, though, she had to admit that wasn't true. She sat on the stand and she told you that. Oh, I just held it. Oh, but you told your probation officer you drank it. Oh, yeah, I guess I drank it. But what's the most important thing she admitted to lying to? She lied to a judge. She lied to a judge by writing a letter saying that she had been 100% compliant with drug court. Now, why did she lie to that judge? She wanted to go to Vegas. And she told you on the stand she admitted it. Yeah, I was untruthful with the judge to get something that I wanted. She was untruthful because she wanted to go to Vegas. There is a lot more at stake here than going to Vegas. She is, again, being untruthful to get what she wants. And what she wants this time is to stay out of prison. And she will say whatever she needs to to make that happen. You know what else she got by telling that story in addition to her get out of jail free card? She also got an advance straight to go and pass drug court on the way card. No more showing up at drug court. And she told you, she told you drug court's tough, but she didn't have to go anymore. No regular check-ins. She just had to text hi or lobber to Detective Maynard. And most importantly, no more drug tests. She's still on probation. Still waiting to go see, to go to court to see if her charges will be dismissed. And she's not being drug tested. Is she telling you the truth about being clean? We have absolutely no way to know. She got everything she wanted by testifying to things that she admitted she had no memory of. Can you fill for Carmen Lauper? You can. Can you believe her beyond a reasonable doubt? You cannot. And if you can't believe her beyond a reasonable doubt, you have to find Corey Richens not guilty. I don't want to talk about Robert Crozier. Because he's also an addict. And he also changed his story. But what makes him different? First, his original story was given in a 13-minute interview while he was coming down from drugs. Not in 10 hours of interviews over multiple days. Detectives came in, and they told him he sold fentanyl. They said, we already know. We know you sold fentanyl. You just need to confirm it. We won't jam you up. Just tell us you sold fentanyl. And he agreed with them. And they asked, did Carmen Lauper know she got fentanyl? And he said, absolutely. But what did he explain to you on the stand? Now that he's been through rehab, now that we know he's sober, that he gave people what they asked for when he was selling drugs. He always gave them what they asked for. So when detectives came in and said, well, you sold Carmen fentanyl. Carmen asked for fentanyl. He said, yes. He said, what I meant is, if that's what she asked for, that's what I gave her. What else makes him different, though, from Carmen Lauper? He changed his story from what the prosecution wanted him to say to what they didn't want him to say. Not the other way around. Why do this? Why would he risk his immunity? It would have been so much easier for him just to stick with his original story. Let's go back. So he gives that original story in April of 23. He sobers up. He meets with the state. He meets with Mr. Bloodworth in April of 25, before he ever spoke to me or to Mr. Berman. And he tells him at that time that he got it wrong. He says, no, I sold Carmen Oxycodone, not fentanyl. And how does he know this? He told you. Because he didn't start selling fentanyl until late 2022. And he sold to Carmen Lauper in early 2022. Also, his source gave him fentanyl that was so dark it was almost purple. It wasn't light green. It wasn't light blue. Okay, so then he meets with our team in October of 25. He says the same thing. He signed an affidavit swearing it to be true. He testified to the same thing at trial. I was only selling Oxy in 2022. And not only that, he told you it was prescription Oxy from a pharmacy. So not fake Oxy that was actually fentanyl, but real Oxy. And he was a bit of an expert on the topic. I think he knew more than the drug expert did. He told you, light green pills, those were 15 to 20 milligram pills. Light blue pills, those were 30 milligram pills. His prescription was 10 milligram pills. He knew his stuff. He was a pretty successful drug dealer. And he told you when I sold fentanyl, those pills were almost purple. What did he have to gain by testifying to this? He's never met Corey Richens. He'd never met Eric Richens. He didn't know Carmen. He isn't getting anything from anyone. It's for these reasons that his testimony is more credible than Carmen's. Her freedom is at stake, so she had to say fentanyl. She has to give them Corey. He has nothing to gain. He just told you the truth. The state told you in closing that they traced the fentanyl? It's absolutely not true. Carmen never even looked at those pills. She didn't test those pills. She didn't take any of them, according to her. And we don't know where any of them are. Where are these some odd 90 to 120 pills? They didn't trace that fentanyl. We have no idea where that is. They didn't trace any fentanyl. So how did Eric end up ingesting fentanyl? What other reasonable explanation might there be? You know, I'm not going to stand here and say to you that Eric Richens was a drug. He wasn't a drug addict. He wasn't a Carmen Lauper. He wasn't a Robert Crozier. I don't think the evidence shows that. But that doesn't mean he didn't use. That doesn't mean he didn't ask Corey to get him pain pills. He probably did. So what do we know? We know Eric was in pain. He had Lyme disease, which can be very painful. He had back pain. He had knee pain. We know he'd been in Mexico not long before his death. Look at what he was doing right before his death. So right before his death, he's texting Pedro Sonora, back and forth, back and forth. Did they interview him? Like we said, no. He texts his friend Scott Wagner, more, Pedro Sonero, Pedro Sonero. From 830, between 830 and 836, he texts him 1, 2, 3, well, these are back and forth. But between them, there's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 texts. He gets a call from Scott Wagner. What's his last Google search? How far is it from Scottsdale to Magalas? And then he gets a text from Raul. We also don't know anything about Raul. Maybe he made other calls. The state said maybe Corey was calling on the Wi-Fi. Maybe so was he. We don't know how else he talked to, but this is what we do know. Oh, which this is a good place to bring up, I think, that the state did stand up here and they told you that we said things in opening that didn't come in during trial. And that's true. Strategies changed during trial. But remember, we are not the ones under an obligation to put on any evidence. It's not us. We're not under an obligation to prove anything. It's them. Okay, so what else do we find on that first day that Eric died? What else do they find? The hydrocodone bottle. Whatever happened to that bottle? Why wasn't it tested? What was kept in that bottle? The bottle sitting right by the bed on Eric's nightstand, right next to his phone and watch that were placed neatly in his charger. An expired prescription bottle with nothing in it but residue. And you can see the residue there. Why would that be sitting out, a six-year-old prescription bottle? What might be the best way to bring illegal pills back from Mexico? Put them in a prescription bottle? Put them in your suitcase? What might be the best way to store your illicit oxycodone? Stick them in a prescription bottle? Put them by your bed? And now that bottle's gone, and nobody knows where it is, and nobody tested it. And you saw that white powder, and you can look back when you go back, but you saw that white powdery residue on the nightstand next to Eric? Nobody tested that either. So what's another explanation? What could have happened? Eric was about to take his last pain pill out of that bottle that he kept by the side of his bed. He's on the phone with people in Mexico. He's checking how long it takes to drive from Scottsdale to Nogales. Maybe he knew he was getting fentanyl in Mexico. Maybe he thought it was something else, and he accidentally got fentanyl. Maybe had they tested that bottle, we would know. But they didn't. You know what else we know, though? We know he had a prescription for Naltrexone. And it appears he wasn't taking it. A drug used to help people control craving for drugs and alcohol. It's not a drug used to treat Lyme disease. There's a reasonable alternative. Reasonable doubt. Ironman moved to motive. The state absolutely did not prove that Corrie's relationship with Josh Grossman was a motive to kill her husband. Josh and Corrie had been seeing each other on and off for about two years. You heard from Josh. He testified that their future together was a fantasy. At no time did Corrie ever lead him to believe that she was going to leave Eric for him. It was clear that Josh loved Corrie more than she loved him. You could see it in his face. You could see it in his demeanor. You can look at the text shortly before Eric died where Corrie was trying to break up with him. The state wants you to find that the conversation Corrie had with Josh about his time in Iraq is somehow evidence or proof of murder. But Josh told you she was grieving. That that conversation was about life and death and Eric and bowhunting and the supernatural. That it really didn't even seem that unusual at the time. He only thought it seemed unusual when the private investigator told him Corrie killed Eric. It's not evidence of a homicide. It isn't proof of anything. Yes, they were having an affair. Eric was also having an affair. Possibly more than one. You heard there was a text about an open relationship. And they can laugh about that, but that's what the text said. And you know what? We do not bring this up to make Eric out to be a bad person. It doesn't matter what he was doing in his personal life. That's not the point. The point is that there were parts of Eric's life that he didn't share with people. Just like he didn't share with Cody that he used marijuana. Or even that he took prescriptions. The point is we all have secrets. And Eric had secrets. But back to Josh. The best evidence that Josh was not a motive for Corrie to kill her husband is that after Eric died, she never did get together with Josh. She didn't show up at the brunch that they'd planned to celebrate the closing on the Midway Mansion. She didn't go on a vacation with him in April. She never even finished paying for that vacation. Josh told you that Corrie changed after Eric's death. She was grieving. That he saw less and less of her. And ultimately she broke things off. And by the way, if Corrie was as motivated by money as they would have you think, would she really have killed her wealthy husband to run off with the handyman who lived for free in one of her houses? The state says, look at texts. Replace the words in them with different words. They stood here and made up what was inside people's heads. What they were thinking. The state has to rely on evidence. They have to prove their case. And they can't do that. The state did not prove that Corrie killed Eric in order to be with Josh. All right, money. Money is a motive for a lot of things for a lot of people. Was Corrie a brilliant businesswoman? No. Was her business struggling? Yes, it was. Was there fake it till you make it? There seemed to be a lot of that going on. Brooke Harrington testified that money was not a priority to Corrie Richards. She could have used an accountant. She said she didn't even use QuickBooks. And this is all true. A young mother trying to run a business, like most young mothers, young working mothers. Did her accounting take a backseat to her family? Probably. The state also wants you to believe that Corrie was cheating her best friend. But that's not what the evidence showed. The evidence showed that the $45,000 that Chelsea gave to Corrie was not earmarked for closing. Corrie could do whatever she wanted with that money. All that mattered was that when she went to that closing on that house, that she showed up with $45,000. It didn't have to be that $45,000. It could have been $45,000 she expected to come in from another flip. But then Corrie was arrested and never got the opportunity to do that. That's why that house was foreclosed. But you know what the evidence has shown? That Corrie, rightly or wrongly, truly believed that that Midway Mansion was going to turn everything around. They were celebrating that night. If Corrie was going to kill Eric for money, she certainly would not have done it on the night that she believed she had just secured a multimillion dollar property. And if you look at the state's exhibit, 624D, you will see that Corrie actually made a profit on every single home that she flipped. She had reason to believe that she was going to make a profit on this one, too. All the foreclosures, those were all after her arrest. And something else, they say it would have cost way more money than she had to rehab the mansion, to live in it with Josh, which, again, Josh said it was fantasy. That wasn't going to happen. But if you don't believe him, look at the text. Look at State's Exhibit 2-17D on page 33. This is where she and Eric are going back and forth on how much it would cost to rehab the mansion. And he says, we can't afford that. We don't even have time for that. What does she tell him? You can look at it. I don't have it word for word. She tells him, no, we're not doing that. I just need money. I just need to give the numbers, I mean, to the investors. She didn't tend to rehab that. She'd tend to flip it after a little cleanup. All right, I want to talk about the gifts that the state talked about in their opening and throughout trial. They made such a fuss about these. They were accessed on Corey's phone on March 4th, the morning of March 4th. They were tied to the celebration. That's what those were about. If you look at that exhibit, I think it's 3-40, you can see that the orphan gifts were accessed at the same time, down to the second, as a picture of the Midway Mansion. So what do we know about these gifts? We know that some photos were stored in a cache on the phone, not connected to any particular text. We know that they were accessed, accessed the morning of the 4th. We know that at least one of the pictures, the one of the mansion, was sent by Eric the evening before, which likely means all of these photos were sent prior to the morning of the 4th. These were not about Eric's death. They weren't, she wasn't celebrating death. These gifts were sent earlier, and she was celebrating closing on that mansion. It just doesn't follow she would kill him for money. She received less from life insurance than she thought she was going to make on that mansion. Josh Grossman told you that she was surprised when she found out about the million-dollar life insurance policy from auto insurance. It appears she didn't even know that. And if you take Brooke Carrington's testimony as true, and by the way, she was a good witness. She is a professional, expert witness. First hired by the family, and then paid $200,000 by the state. A prosecution witness sitting right here today behind the prosecution. Very different than the MEs, who were just here to tell you their findings. But anyway, if you accept her testimony, the life insurance wasn't going to fix the problem anyway. Corey spent that life insurance within a matter of weeks and was still in debt. And you know what you heard on that phone call between Bryce and Chelsea and Corey? All I want's the home. It's all I want. They can have everything else. They can have the money. I don't care. I just want my house, my house where I've raised my boys. And you know what? Eric was making good money. In 2020, he told Christina Miller, the attorney he went to, about talking about a divorce. That he was making, his income that year was over $33,000 a month. Cody Wright testified that they made $500,000 each the last year that Eric was alive. I believe there was testimony that there were other years he made even more. Not sure about that, but I think that was in there. So if this case was about money, Eric was worth so much more to Corey alive than that. Opportunity. Well, I guess her opportunity was she was the only one in the house. Who else was in the house, though? Who else had an opportunity to take those pills? Eric. Four years later, 10,000 searches, over $300,000 worth of expert witnesses, three weeks of trial, the FBI, the DEA, Homeland Security, the Summit County Sheriff's Office. They cannot tell you how Eric ingested that fentanyl. They haven't done their job. And now they want you to make inferences based on paper-thin evidence. They speculated on a number of things during closing. And they want to tell you. They want you to do their job for them. Tell them no. Tell them if they're going to charge a person in your community with the most serious crime there is, they better have the facts. They better have the proof. They better have more than speculation and conjecture because that's their job. It's not your job. I want to talk about the elements. The first one aggravated murder. Okay, so they have to prove that Corey Richens intentionally or knowingly caused the death of Eric Richens. The state has not proven this. They haven't even proven that she obtained fentanyl. They have not proven where the pills ended up or how Eric took them. The state stood up here and argued, well, it really doesn't matter what drug she purchased. As long as it was an illicit street drug, it absolutely matters. Because what did he die of? He died of fentanyl. There was no oxycodone in his system. There was no other drug in his system. They must prove that she purchased and gave him fentanyl. Oh, and let me talk about Becky Lloyd for one minute. She said that she had a conversation after a drink or two where Corey allegedly said, oh, I'd be, things would be easier. I'd be better off if Eric was dead. But what else did you hear? You heard Becky in a recording tell officers and investigators. I don't think I can testify to that on the stand. I'm not sure that that's true. But then she testified to it. Well, maybe they threatened to bring a catch pole for her dog, too. One thing I want to point out here, though, is if after looking at all the evidence, you believe that Ms. Richens accidentally obtained fentanyl when she thought she was getting oxycodone, and then Eric took those pills voluntarily and died, that is not intentionally and knowingly. That is not aggravated murder. And if you conclude that, you must find Corey Richens not guilty. All right, attempted murder. What is the evidence of this? And again, again, it has to be intentionally or knowingly, and it has the, for us, the elements there. She had to take a substantial step. So here's the evidence. Corey bought an omelet and an egg sandwich at 9 o'clock the morning of February 14th. There was no evidence that she left that sandwich in the truck. To the contrary, there was a conversation with her mother saying, they think I left some sandwich in a truck. That didn't happen. Eric said he wasn't feeling well. He took a nap between 11.30 and 2. He called a couple of friends and sounded upset. He joked a few days later with Corey and friends that his wife had tried to poison him, but he'd had an allergic reaction and used an EpiPen. Alex Staking told you that. Ali Staking. She never said that Corey got defensive. She didn't say that. She said they were all laughing. She said that Eric didn't seem upset or scared. It was a joke. It wouldn't be the first time a spouse ate something and said, oh my God, my wife tried to poison me. But that's it. That's their entire case. He didn't go to the hospital. He didn't do anything that day but take a nap. Eating an egg sandwich, having an allergic reaction to something, and taking a nap. There is no world in which that is attempted murder beyond a reasonable doubt. Oh, they point out that months later in text to Chelsea, her friend, that she gets some details wrong about that day. Maybe because she didn't try to kill him, and in her memory that day it really wasn't all that important. She said, I bought him lunch. Well, it was breakfast. Again, they stood here and said, Eric was thinking this. Corey was thinking this. She was, you know, off with Josh thinking all these things. None of this was evidence, not any of it. None of it is proof. They talked about some IRS calls that she made on those days. No evidence as to what was in those calls. No witnesses from the IRS. Speculation. Conjecture. Not proof. Reasonable doubt. Okay, I'm going to jump quickly. The other three counts I'm going to go through quickly, but I'm going to go to count five, which is the forgery count. Now, remember what we're talking about here. This is one of those life insurance policies that any of us who belong to a credit union get where you don't have to do anything. You sign here for $100,000 free life insurance, and this was filled out for both Corey and Eric. Matthew Throckmorton, the handwriting expert, all he could tell you is that Eric probably did not sign the true stage insurance policy. Probably is reasonable doubt. And he could not tell you that Corey did sign it. They have not proven that Corey forged Eric's signature. And there was no evidence either way if Corey had permission to sign Eric's name on that true stage life insurance. I mean, let's be serious. It's the rare married couple who doesn't occasionally say, hey, honey, I'm going to sign this for you. Is that okay? Okay. Okay. But there was no evidence either way. She's not guilty of forgery. All right. Jumping to the insurance fraud counts, count three. Count three is directly connected to count five because this count alleges that Corey fraudulently obtained that insurance policy, and the fraud was forging Eric's signature. They said there was a reversed Social Security number on there, but the fraud's the signature. So if the state hasn't proven to count five, it automatically follows they haven't proven count three, and you must find her not guilty on count three. Count four says that, alleges that Corey fraudulently collected the true stage insurance policy. All that means is if she did kill her husband and then represented something different to collect that insurance, that would be fraud. But if you find Corey Richman's not guilty on count one, you have to find her not guilty on count four. The state has not proven their case. They don't have the evidence that Corey Richman killed her husband. So instead, they have tried to show you as much evidence as they possibly can to convince you that she's the sort of person who would. Getting close to the end, I'm sure you would like me to stop talking, but I have to tell you, I'm afraid to stop talking. Because as I stand here right now, Corey Richman is still cloaked in a presumption of innocence. I don't ever want to walk back to that table. As a defense attorney, that is one of the longest walks a lawyer can make. This entire case is going to flash before my eyes. And all I will be able to think about once I sit down is, what did I miss? What did we miss? What didn't we tell you that you wanted to hear? Did I focus on what you wanted to know? Did we do enough? You're about to go through those doors and into the jury room and start deliberations. Everyone in this courtroom, everyone watching around the world, we all wish we could follow you and listen in. But that room, that jury room is yours. It's sacrosanct. And that room you get to decide. And when you get in that room and you look at the evidence, if you think that Corey Richans might have killed her husband, that she likely killed her husband, that she probably killed her husband, you must find her not guilty. Because maybe, probably, likely, very likely, none of these reach that extraordinary burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm going to ask you to do a couple of things when you go into that room. First, you might be tempted to go around the room and take a vote for guilty or not guilty, to see where you all stand. We ask that you refrain from this. Instead, we ask, talk to each other about where you see reasonable doubt. Also, if Kathy or Alex or myself did something to offend you during this trial, please hold that against us and not against Corey. Now, the state's going to get up and talk to you again because they get the last word. And the reason they have that last word is because of that heavy burden. But when you filled out that jury questionnaire, we asked you if you would be comfortable making your voice heard in that jury room. Would you stand by your convictions, by what you believe? And each and every one of you said yes. So here's my final ask of you. When you're deliberating and something comes up that we didn't respond to, will you be courageous? Courageous enough to raise your hand and talk about what our response would be. Raise your hand. Raise your hand for Corey because you are the last line between an innocent woman and the state. Be courageous. Courage is what this moment demands. The courage to stand between a member of your community and the state and demand that they comply with the Constitution, that they comply with their burden. Do not let them fool you. Do not fall for red herrings. Corey Richens did not kill Eric Richens. The state did not prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt and you have the courage, have the courage to tell them this and find Corey Richens not guilty. [03:06:12] Speaker 1: Next, next, guys. Harder tricks are not legal standards. Legal standards are what matter. Let's review a couple of the important ones. You'll have them in your instructions when you go back to deliberate. Reasonable doubt. I come back to this one again and again. Evidence usually consists of testimony and exhibits presented at trial. What the lawyers say is not evidence. I've come back to this slide in rebuttal precisely because of defense's closing. There is a reason the state provided you in its slides with a cite to every single piece of evidence it argued. We told you what transcript page and line number. We told you what exhibit number. We told you what exhibit number. Because what the attorneys say doesn't matter. The evidence is what matters. And there's a reason defense counsel didn't cite you to the evidence. A lot of the evidence is circumstantial. It is. People do not video themselves poisoning their spouse. But circumstantial evidence is just as good as direct evidence. You can use circumstantial evidence to conclude facts just as you can use direct evidence. The instruction gives the example of it is wet outside and people are closing up their umbrellas. It is. That makes sense. Let me put it to you a different way. Does everybody know what happened here? Corey Richards chose Carmen Lava. The state didn't. Hold on. Let me check. Let's go back one more. Corey Richards chose Carmen Lava. Not the state. Go ahead, Sky. Thanks. Corey Richards chose Carmen Lava because she was the drug dealer she knew. The state granted Carmen Lava immunity because it cares more about a murder case than a drug deal. That should surprise nobody. Corey Richards chose Carmen Lava in part because she had control over her. She could help her out. She employed her to some measure. She could help her out. A little quid pro quo. You give me some drugs, I can help you out with your drug court. Corey Richards chose Carmen Lava, not me. Her testimony is corroborated. If you only believe Carmen Lava's testimony that is corroborated, that is plenty of proof to convict. She was only at that maverick in Draper three times. That's what the digital evidence shows. Each of the three times she was there, so was Robert Kuzir. Those were the only three times he was there. Their testimony corroborates each other in the relevant manner. He corroborates that they met, that he sold her drugs, illicit street drugs, that it had fentanyl. Blues had fentanyl. Corroborates that they weren't prescription drugs, he got them from a plug, not a pharmacy. They were packaged in a little clear baggie, not a prescription bottle. All the testimony of Carmen Lava and Robert Kuzir that matters corroborates each other. [03:11:01] Speaker ?: So with these transactions when Carmen Lava... [03:11:03] Speaker 2: Ah, go ahead. We've seen this one again. [03:11:05] Speaker 1: We've seen this one again. I've seen... [03:11:07] Speaker 2: Prozier was at the gas station three times. [03:11:10] Speaker ?: Carmen Lava was there every time. [03:11:11] Speaker 1: The March drug deal... Timing of this is very interesting. Shortly after Eric's death, Carmen Lava spoke with Corey Richards and asked, "Please tell me these pills were not for him." Of course she denied it. No. But then, a few days later, she asked for more pills. It's curious as to why. Perhaps to cover up that the pills were indeed for Eric. If I asked for more, she'll know they weren't for Eric. It's also interesting that she said she needed something to get her mind... What? I don't know. Maybe she wanted the pills for herself. This suggests she wanted the pills for herself to calm her mind. Which tells you she knows that a pill that she buys from Carmen Lava is not bad. Just a whole bunch of pills to kill. Consciousness of guilt is evidence of guilt. Corrie had a guilty conscience. She couldn't talk to her father that night. Not because she was overcome by grief, but because she couldn't face... She could not face the man whose son she had just murdered. We're going to play these clips right here now. 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