The Lindsay Clancy Trial Moment Everyone's Talking About

[00:00:00] Speaker 1: I saw Cora. [00:00:01] Speaker 2: And how did she look? [00:00:04] Speaker 1: She had a band around her neck. [00:00:07] Speaker 2: And was that an exercise band? [00:00:09] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:00:10] Speaker 2: And do you recall whether she was, what position she was in, whether face up or face down? She's face down. And when you saw her in that condition, what did you do? [00:00:25] Speaker 1: I immediately ran over and tried to take the band off. [00:00:28] Speaker 3: What this man has been through is unimaginable. It is beyond heartbreaking. It is something no man or no woman would ever want to experience. Patrick Clancy left his house to go pick up dinner for his family. When he came home, he found his three young children strangled with exercise bands. [00:00:51] Speaker 2: And when you saw Dawson, what condition was he in? [00:00:56] Speaker 1: Um, I knew he was gone. [00:00:59] Speaker 3: Now he's in court reliving that horrible day as he testifies against the person who did it, his now ex-wife, Lindsay Clancy. [00:01:08] Speaker 1: She said she heard a man's voice telling her that if she didn't do it now, she would lose her chance. [00:01:16] Speaker 3: Lindsay admits it, but says she's not criminally responsible and should be found not guilty. And Patrick agrees. He has forgiven Lindsay and does not believe she should be prosecuted. But the question is, will the jury agree? Patrick Clancy is the most important witness in this case, the trial against his ex-wife. And today, the heartbreaking testimony about him finding his three young children strangled. But that wasn't the biggest moment. The biggest moment came when Patrick Clancy left the courtroom and the jury heard his 911 call. We'll show you what happened and we'll talk about the impact this will have on the jury in this case. I'm Vinny Politan. Let's investigate. There's no way to sugarcoat what happened today inside of the courtroom. It was an extremely raw and extremely emotional day. And it begins with Patrick Clancy, the father of the victims, reliving the horror of that day and recounting for this jury what he did, what he saw, what he heard. This was absolutely brutal to watch what he was going through, right? It's the worst day of your life and now you've got to relive it. And in such vivid detail. And you can see when you look at Patrick Clancy, when he is describing what he's seeing, you can see the impact it's having on him. If you listen closely to parts of the testimony, you can hear his labored breathing. This is raw. This is real. At the same time, Lindsay Clancy is there inside the courtroom listening to all of this and herself reacting to it. And her reactions today, extreme, absolutely extreme. Seems like she's in a much different place now than she was the day that she did this and in the days after she did this. Because Patrick Clancy talked about how his first conversation with her, she wasn't even talking about the kids. Well, today it all came back. Like it was absolutely real, especially when they brought out some of the evidence in the case because prosecutors are laying out all the facts and the evidence, putting in front of the jury the alleged murder weapons. And in those moments, you can see Lindsay Clancy clutching the hand of her attorney. As she sits in her wheelchair, sobbing, breaking down. Patrick Clancy, I want to get back to him because before prosecutors laid out some of this evidence, like the clothing that the children were wearing, the alleged murder weapons, and then the 911 call that Patrick Clancy made that day, he was excused. Usually the evidence goes in while the witness through whom it's going in is on the witness stand. That wasn't the case today. I think everyone acknowledged that Patrick Clancy did not have to be there for this. So despite the fact that he was still technically on the witness stand, he was excused from the court as prosecutors put in this evidence. So Patrick Clancy leaves the courtroom, and now it's time for the jury to see the alleged murder weapon, et cetera. But the part that is sticking with everyone who was inside that courtroom, we get to see it, is the 911 call. The judge did not permit that 911 call to be broadcast, did not permit it to be recorded. The microphones were shut down inside the courtroom. So the only people who heard the call were the people who were actually inside the courtroom, including Lindsey Clancy. So I'm going to show you that video from the moment that the 911 call is being made. Remember, Patrick goes out to pick up dinner, comes home, can't find anyone, then finds Lindsey in the backyard. And she had leaped out of the window and asked her, where are the kids? And she says, in the basement. And he goes to find them. All of this is recorded on that 911 call. Let's take a look now at the video from inside the courtroom, as this call is being played. And from this angle, you can't see, but right now her left hand is clutching the right hand of her attorney, Kevin Reddington. And you can see some of that breathing and the sobbing. It gets more intense as now she is hearing her husband's 911 call. This moment for everyone in the courtroom, extremely powerful, including the jury. Let's go look at this. Now she is crunched over. Now, Richie Morgenstern, director of photography for Court TV, was inside the courtroom for this moment. And I want you to take a listen to his description of what you're seeing right now. Because he was there. He saw it. He heard it. [00:07:32] Speaker 4: Of course, I think after hearing it, I think it was a great idea that the public did not have to hear this. A lot of us have been doing this for a while. But today was something else. It wasn't necessarily all the moments of him, you know, crying out and screaming. It was sometimes those moments of silence where he was trying to get himself together, where you could kind of just hear his soul being physically ripped out of his body. And you could just tell, like, he knew that he wanted to save them. But at the same time, you could just hear how he was just kind of falling apart from each. He couldn't even speak, you know, a full word, you know, speaking to dispatch, just trying to explain what was going on. And then you could just tell from the courtroom, you know, members of the jury were breaking down. Obviously, Lindsay was breaking down. He it was it was quite the show for for emotion. [00:08:45] Speaker 3: It's rare. It's rare. It's rare that a judge would not permit this to be public, especially Massachusetts, a very transparent state. But that description by Richie really, I think, paints the picture of of what took place in this moment. And she's not the only one crying. You've got the jury crying as well. The jury had to be excused. And the question becomes, what's the impact of this? Where do the sympathies go? When a jury experiences something like that. You know, the normal mode for a moment like that is advantage prosecution. All of a sudden, it's very real. What happened that day? The victims lives who were lost. The horrific nature, the brutality, all of that, the raw emotion coming from Patrick Clancy. The victim in this case. The victim in this case. It's his three children. In almost every case, you would look at that and say, advantage prosecution. But I'm not sure in this case. I'm not sure. And it's partly her reaction as well. Is there a split in the sympathy here? Is there some sympathy for this mother? Who, yes, prosecutors admit is suffering from some level of mental illness. That she was driven by this illness, by the medication, to the point where she would do this to her own family, to her own children, and to her own husband? Maybe. Maybe. I'm telling you, in most cases, I would say, at this point, game over. Chalk it up for prosecutors. But I'm not so sure in this one. So let's go backwards now. To the moments before that 911 call. Patrick Clancy is describing now for the jury. Returning home. Remember, he's sent to pick up dinner by his wife. Let's order her out tonight, enough time to cook dinner. She looks it up. She figures out how long it's going to take. Sends him to CVS. Sends him to the restaurant to pick up the food. And now he comes home. Here he is describing what he found. [00:11:43] Speaker 2: When you came into the house and you were taking off your boots and putting things down, was there anything you noticed? [00:11:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, the house was really quiet. [00:11:52] Speaker 2: Is that unusual? [00:11:53] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:11:55] Speaker 2: And when you realized it was really quiet, what did you do? [00:12:01] Speaker 1: I called out. [00:12:03] Speaker 2: And who did you call out to? [00:12:05] Speaker 1: Everyone. [00:12:06] Speaker 2: Did anyone answer? [00:12:07] Speaker 1: No. [00:12:09] Speaker 2: After you called out and no one answered, what did you do next? [00:12:15] Speaker 1: I think I, I think I, I don't know the order, but I called down in the basement and no one answered. And then I called Lindsay to see if she was home because I looked out and I, I couldn't see her car, but it's because it was dark and her car's black. [00:12:34] Speaker 2: Okay. So when you, you say you, you called down to the basement, when you approached the basement door, do you remember if it was open or shut? [00:12:42] Speaker 1: It was shut. [00:12:43] Speaker 2: So did you open it and yell down? [00:12:46] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:12:46] Speaker 2: And there was no response? [00:12:47] Speaker 1: Correct. I started checking upstairs. [00:12:51] Speaker 2: And where did you check upstairs? [00:12:54] Speaker 1: Um, first the bathroom. I thought maybe they were taking baths, um, but there's no one there. [00:13:01] Speaker 2: And then where did you go? [00:13:02] Speaker 1: The kids' bedrooms. [00:13:03] Speaker 2: Was there anyone in the kids' bedrooms? No. Um, and then did you go to your bedroom? [00:13:08] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:13:09] Speaker 2: And were you able to get into your bedroom right away? [00:13:12] Speaker 1: No, the door was locked and that's when I knew something was wrong. [00:13:16] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:13:16] Speaker 2: And, um, when you unlocked the door to your bedroom, um, did you go in? [00:13:22] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:13:23] Speaker 2: And what did you see when you, um, opened the door and went in? [00:13:28] Speaker 1: I just saw blood everywhere and the window is open. [00:13:33] Speaker 2: How far into the room did you get? [00:13:37] Speaker 1: Probably one or two steps. And then I immediately turned around and went outside. [00:13:42] Speaker 2: And the, the blood that you, you saw, where was that located in the room? [00:13:48] Speaker 1: It was everywhere. It was, um, it looked like it was sprayed almost with like a hose and there was a huge puddle in the middle of the room and it was sprayed all over the, pretty much every surface. Um, I just looked around in the backyard, um, below that window and I saw Lindsay. [00:14:07] Speaker 2: And where did you see her? [00:14:09] Speaker 1: Uh, she was face up in the backyard. [00:14:12] Speaker 2: And where in the backyard was she? [00:14:15] Speaker 1: Um, at the bottom of the window. [00:14:17] Speaker 2: And did you, um, observe any injuries? [00:14:20] Speaker 1: Yes. [00:14:21] Speaker 2: And what did you see? [00:14:23] Speaker 1: Uh, she had deep cuts on her wrists. Um, and she had a red line across her neck. I, I wasn't sure what it was at first, um, but she cut her neck. [00:14:38] Speaker 2: And, um, do you recall that these wounds weren't actively bleeding at the time? [00:14:44] Speaker 1: Um, I later learned that I said that on the 911 call. [00:14:47] Speaker 2: And when you observed these wounds, um, is it correct that the 911 operator, um, asked you, um, or instructed you to apply pressure if needed? [00:14:58] Speaker 1: Um, I, I don't recall the whole call, but I, I believe that's probably true. [00:15:03] Speaker 2: Okay. And, and you didn't at the time feel the need to apply pressure to any of those wounds, correct? [00:15:08] Speaker 3: Correct. Hold it right there for a second. [00:15:10] Speaker 2: Did you say anything to Lindsay when? [00:15:14] Speaker 3: That's an important point for prosecutors. Don't forget, they're alleging that the suicide attempt was fake, was not real, that these wounds are superficial. If you're going to slit your throat, slit your wrists, they should be bleeding, but they're not. They're superficial wounds. He doesn't even have to apply pressure to stop the bleeding because they're not bleeding. It's an important point for prosecutors. If they're holding their ground, they are not conceding that there was any suicide attempt by Lindsay Clancy, that she faked it to make it look like it so she could get away with the murder of her children. Let's continue to watch. [00:16:01] Speaker 2: When, when you found her in that state? [00:16:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, what happened? [00:16:06] Speaker 2: And what was her response? [00:16:08] Speaker 1: She said, I tried to kill myself. [00:16:12] Speaker 2: Did you, um, ask her anything else? [00:16:16] Speaker 1: I said, where are the kids? [00:16:17] Speaker 2: And what was her response? [00:16:18] Speaker 1: She said, they're in the basement. [00:16:20] Speaker 2: How long approximately? And I know you weren't looking at your watch or anything like that, but can you estimate for us how long it took, um, for first responders to arrive? [00:16:30] Speaker 1: Four or five minutes. Okay. [00:16:32] Speaker 2: And, um, during that time, are you continuing to try to talk to Lindsay? [00:16:37] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:16:37] Speaker 2: Is she responding? [00:16:39] Speaker 1: She's in and out of consciousness. Okay. [00:16:42] Speaker 2: Um, was she breathing on her own? [00:16:45] Speaker 1: I believe so. [00:16:46] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:16:47] Speaker 2: And, um, you're communicating information to the 911 operators and, um, are they giving you, you know, advice on how to deal with the situation as it progresses? [00:16:58] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:16:58] Speaker 2: Okay. Um, once, um, emergency personnel arrive, what do you do? [00:17:04] Speaker 1: I immediately got up and ran to the basement. [00:17:07] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:17:08] Speaker 2: And, um, do you still have the phone on you? You're still on the 911 call? [00:17:13] Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't realize it at the time, but I did. [00:17:19] Speaker 3: And that's the big setup. And that was the big setup for the 911 call and what the jury experienced and everyone inside that courtroom experienced. His raw reaction and emotions to what he's finding in that basement. And he knows it's not good because remember when he first comes home, he calls down to the basement and there's no response. So when he finds Lindsay on the backyard and she says there in the basement, he knows. He knows it's bad. He knows it's really bad. And the jury got to understand today just how bad it was through his own words in that moment. So if you, if you look at Patrick Clancy's role in all of this, he is providing the factual basis that prosecutors need. And there's little points of his testimony that they're, they're going towards to demonstrate that she planned and plotted this. The fact that they didn't normally get takeout from that restaurant, that it was further, there were other ones that were closer that he called in the middle of all of it. And there was no, seemingly no problem. She never warned him or said anything about hearing voices in his head. I mean, there's a lot that we're going to go through here, but he's providing the factual basis. The question is the emotional part of this, which a jury is told not to consider, but which a jury or any human cannot ignore. And the one thing that I gathered from, from his testimony, and you, you saw some of it, um, is the labored breathing and how he, he's seemingly focused like this. Just, he knows he has to testify. He knows there's no way you don't, he's going to get up there. He's telling the truth. He's recalling everything that he can, but he's trying to get in and out as quickly as possible. He's not embellishing. He's providing everything in a very succinct, factual manner. And to me, if you're the victim, right? And these are your children that are killed and you want that defendant prosecuted. You want him found guilty. That's not the way you're going to testify. It's just not, it's going to be different. It has been different. Like in every trial I've ever covered or someone in his position of being the parent of a victim or the spouse of a victim or a brother or sister of the victim, the testimony just comes across much differently when they want the person convicted. And that's the part of this that we don't know how the jury's receiving this. I just know what I'm seeing. Every bit of Patrick Clancy's testimony is critical and it's crucial on different levels and for different sides. Some for the prosecution, some for the defense and all of it for this jury to try to understand what happened and why it happened. So we're going to listen to more of Patrick Clancy's testimony here talking about the moment where he finds the children in the basement and then his first conversation with Lindsay afterwards when she's taken to the hospital. Let's go back inside the courtroom. [00:21:01] Speaker 2: So when you come down those stairs that night, which direction did you go? [00:21:10] Speaker 1: I immediately went left. [00:21:12] Speaker 2: And when you went left, what did you see? [00:21:15] Speaker 1: I saw Cora. [00:21:16] Speaker 2: And how did she look? [00:21:19] Speaker 1: She had a band around her neck. [00:21:22] Speaker 2: And was that an exercise band? [00:21:24] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:21:25] Speaker 2: And do you recall whether she was, what position she was in, whether face up or face down? [00:21:33] Speaker 1: She's face down. [00:21:35] Speaker 2: And when you saw her in that condition, what did you do? [00:21:40] Speaker 1: I immediately ran over and tried to take the band off. [00:21:43] Speaker 2: Were you able to get the band off? [00:21:45] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:21:46] Speaker 2: And do you recall how you got the band off? [00:21:48] Speaker 1: I think I untied it. [00:21:50] Speaker 2: And when you say untied it, was it in a knot that you had to, you know, put everything down and unknot it? Or how was it tied? [00:21:58] Speaker 1: I'm not sure I fully remember. [00:22:01] Speaker 2: Do you recall describing it previously as when you initially tie your shoes but then don't do the bow? [00:22:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds right. [00:22:12] Speaker 2: And was she responsive? [00:22:15] Speaker 1: No. [00:22:17] Speaker 2: And what did you see or do next? [00:22:20] Speaker 1: I saw Callan. [00:22:22] Speaker 2: And where was he? [00:22:23] Speaker 1: He was next to her. [00:22:24] Speaker 2: And how did he appear? [00:22:28] Speaker 1: He had a band around his neck. [00:22:29] Speaker 2: Sorry? [00:22:30] Speaker 1: He had a band around his neck. [00:22:32] Speaker 2: And did you remove that as well? [00:22:33] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:22:34] Speaker 2: And do you recall what position he was in? [00:22:37] Speaker 1: Same as Cora. [00:22:39] Speaker 2: And looking at the model here, if you could just tell us where was Cora? [00:22:47] Speaker 1: The left of the couch. [00:22:50] Speaker 2: So would that be this area here that I'm pointing to in between the bureau and the couch? [00:22:55] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:22:56] Speaker 2: And where was Callan? [00:22:57] Speaker 1: To her left. [00:22:58] Speaker 2: So would that be more over here towards the chair and the bureau? [00:23:03] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:23:04] Speaker 2: After you removed the band from Callan's neck, what did you do next? [00:23:15] Speaker 1: I tried to find Dawson. [00:23:17] Speaker 2: And where did you go? [00:23:19] Speaker 1: I looked in the bathroom and on the other side of the couch. And then I went to the other side of the basement and he was in my office. [00:23:28] Speaker 2: And when you saw Dawson, what condition was he in? [00:23:33] Speaker 1: I knew he was gone. [00:23:37] Speaker 2: And did he also have a band around his neck? [00:23:39] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:23:40] Speaker 2: And did you remove that band? [00:23:42] Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm right there for a second. I'm wondering if Dawson was trying to run away. Was trying to hide. If he saw what was happening and he was trying to get away. This is how he's able to even testify is is miraculous. Obviously, he's been through a lot in the last several years. I'm sure he's gotten the kind of help and support that you need for this sort of trauma. But now to go back to that place and you can see it in his eyes. That he is back inside the basement as he's describing everything for us. Let's listen to some more. [00:24:32] Speaker 2: Looking at the office here. Where was he located within the office? [00:24:41] Speaker 1: Just to the left of the door when you went in. [00:24:43] Speaker 2: Just in this area here right inside the door? [00:24:46] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:24:47] Speaker 2: Now, after finding Dawson and taking off the band, what happened next? [00:24:54] Speaker 1: I think I was back and forth. I think I went to try to help Cora. [00:24:58] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:24:59] Speaker 2: Did you try to give her CPR? [00:25:01] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:25:02] Speaker 2: At some point in time, do the first responders make their way down to the basement? [00:25:06] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:25:07] Speaker 2: And do they take over care of the children? [00:25:10] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:25:11] Speaker 2: Where do you go? [00:25:12] Speaker 1: They sent me upstairs. [00:25:13] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:25:14] Speaker 2: Cora Dawson and Callan removed from the home and taken to a hospital? [00:25:18] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:25:18] Speaker 2: Was that Beth Israel Deaconess in Plymouth? [00:25:21] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:25:22] Speaker 2: Did you also go to that location? [00:25:24] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:25:27] Speaker 2: And at the hospital, were you able to see your children? [00:25:30] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:25:32] Speaker 2: And was Callan then transported to Children's Hospital? [00:25:35] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:25:42] Speaker 2: Did anyone ever tell you not to leave your kids alone with Lindsay? No. In January of 2023, did Lindsay ever tell you that she wanted to harm your children? [00:25:57] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:26:00] Speaker 2: Did she ever tell you she was going to kill your children? [00:26:03] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:26:06] Speaker 2: Did you receive, a few days after this happened, did you receive a phone call from the defendant while she was at Brigham and Women's Hospital? [00:26:20] Speaker 1: I think it was like a week or so after, yeah. [00:26:25] Speaker 2: And what did the defendant say at that time about what had happened with the children? [00:26:33] Speaker 1: She didn't talk about our kids. She talked about what she went through. [00:26:39] Speaker 2: And what did she say about what she went through? [00:26:41] Speaker 1: She said she heard a man's voice telling her that if she didn't do it now, she would lose her chance or something like that. [00:26:52] Speaker 2: And did she also tell you that she had had a moment of psychosis? [00:26:58] Speaker 1: I don't recall. [00:27:07] Speaker 2: Did she mention the children at all during that call? [00:27:12] Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, not directly. [00:27:17] Speaker 2: Had she ever mentioned psychosis to you before? [00:27:22] Speaker 1: No, I didn't know what psychosis was until after this happened. [00:27:27] Speaker 2: Did she ever tell you she was hearing a man's voice before? [00:27:31] Speaker 3: No. Okay. This is another big moment for prosecutors. If you're talking about someone who is suffering from mental illness or someone who is using mental illness to try to get away with something, that's where we are here with prosecutors. She's not talking about the kids, not talking about the victims, not talking about their children telling her husband about her defense. That's the way it will be spun. That's the argument. Afterwards, what is she concerned with, ladies and gentlemen? She's concerned with, all right, she's killed the children. How am I getting away with this? I heard voices. I'm going to tell my husband I heard voices. I'm going to plant the seeds of psychosis with my husband. We never discussed this before. And remember, there's a history here of this mental illness. But now for the first time, the voice has entered the room. So a big part of the prosecution case is that she planned and plotted all this, Lindsay Clancy did. And a big part of the plan was to get Patrick out of the house and get him away for enough time so she could commit the mass murder back home. So she sent him to two places on these errands. She sent him to pick up dinner at a place that they normally wouldn't do takeout from because it's a little bit further away and to stop at CVS to pick up something for the kids. So here is Patrick Clancy describing what's taking place during this time. And I want you to pay attention closely to when he describes a phone call that he has with Lindsay when he's at CVS. Which likely is either in the middle of or just after the murders of their three children or killings of their three children, depending upon whose version of the law you believe in this case. Let's take you inside the courtroom. [00:29:42] Speaker 2: So your two stops then that night were going to be CVS and the 3V restaurant, correct? [00:29:48] Speaker 1: Yes. [00:29:49] Speaker 2: Where did you go first? [00:29:50] Speaker 1: CVS. [00:29:51] Speaker 2: And do you remember the route that you took to get there? [00:29:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, I went out our driveway, took a right on Winter Street, and then took a left on the main road and went to CVS. [00:30:01] Speaker 2: So it's a pretty direct route from your house to CVS? Yeah. Open that. I'm just going to have you look at the screen, if you would, to a map. And coming into this red dot here, is that the appropriate location of your phone at 47 Stone Street? [00:30:33] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:30:34] Speaker 2: And then looking at this pink dot here next to Big Y, is that where the CVS is located? [00:30:43] Speaker 1: Yes. [00:30:44] Speaker 2: And that's the CVS you went to that night? [00:30:46] Speaker 1: Yes. [00:30:49] Speaker 2: About how long did it take you to get there? [00:30:53] Speaker 1: Three minutes. [00:30:56] Speaker 2: And when you got to CVS, did you go inside? [00:30:59] Speaker 1: Yes. [00:31:00] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:31:02] Speaker 2: And what section did you go to in CVS? [00:31:07] Speaker 1: I think it was pediatrics. [00:31:10] Speaker 2: If we could pull up the CVS video. I'm going to ask you to look at the video here. Is that you entering the store? [00:31:29] Speaker 4: Yeah. [00:31:30] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:31:36] Speaker 2: And that section you head to on the right, is that the pediatric medication section? [00:31:41] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:31:42] Speaker 2: Okay. And while you're in that section, looking for the medication, do you do something? [00:31:57] Speaker 1: I called Lindsay. [00:32:00] Speaker 2: And why did you call Lindsay? [00:32:01] Speaker 1: Because what we were looking for wasn't there. The shelves were pretty empty. It was still during COVID. [00:32:07] Speaker 2: It was just, I'm sorry, what? [00:32:07] Speaker 1: It was during COVID, so. [00:32:09] Speaker 2: Okay, so, and was that call at about approximately 5.33 p.m.? [00:32:14] Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. [00:32:16] Speaker 2: And then, did she answer the call? [00:32:18] Speaker 1: Yes. [00:32:19] Speaker 2: She answered when you called her? [00:32:22] Speaker 1: Actually, I think she didn't at first. She called back. [00:32:26] Speaker 2: Okay. And did you receive a call back from her about a minute later at 5.34 p.m.? [00:32:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's correct. [00:32:31] Speaker 2: Okay. And can you describe that phone call for us? [00:32:37] Speaker 1: It was very brief. I just said, I think there was a generic brand, and I said, is this one okay? And she said, yeah, that's fine. [00:32:44] Speaker 2: And what was her demeanor during the call? [00:32:49] Speaker 1: She was pretty quiet. It sounded like she was busy. I remember hanging up thinking she's probably in the middle of giving baths or something like that. [00:32:57] Speaker 2: So, it sounded to you like she was in the middle of something? [00:33:00] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:33:01] Speaker 2: Were you able to understand her when she spoke to you? Yeah. And did she seem to understand what you were saying? [00:33:08] Speaker 1: Yes. [00:33:10] Speaker 2: And she didn't seem to have any... [00:33:13] Speaker 3: Is she in the midst of a psychotic break? This is what prosecutors want this jury to understand. If she's in the middle of this psychotic break, why is she able to be so normal on that phone call? Why is there nothing that's raising any sort of a red flag with her husband who knows her better than anyone else? Let's watch some more. [00:33:38] Speaker 2: And did you have trouble recalling why you were at CVS or what you were looking for? [00:33:42] Speaker 1: That's correct. [00:33:49] Speaker 2: And did you, in fact, purchase some PDLX at CVS? [00:33:55] Speaker 1: Yes. [00:33:59] Speaker 2: Did you purchase anything else while you were there? [00:34:02] Speaker 1: I bought a pack of Skittles. [00:34:03] Speaker 2: Sir, how long approximately did it take you to get from CVS to 3V? [00:34:09] Speaker 1: Probably around 10 minutes. [00:34:11] Speaker 2: And when you got to the 3V restaurant, did you go inside? [00:34:15] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:34:16] Speaker 2: I'm just going to ask you to watch the video on the screen. At 5.54.15 p.m., is that you coming in behind that other couple there? [00:34:36] Speaker 4: Yeah. [00:34:45] Speaker 2: And what are you doing at that point when you're looking at the bags? [00:34:48] Speaker 1: I think I was looking for the bag with my name on it. [00:35:11] Speaker 2: Do you recall what you're doing on your phone at that time? [00:35:15] Speaker 1: I don't. It could be work-related. It could be anything. [00:35:19] Speaker 2: Sir, after picking up the order at 3V, where did you go next? [00:35:24] Speaker 1: Home. [00:35:24] Speaker 2: And do you recall the route you took home? [00:35:28] Speaker 1: Probably the same route. One exit on the highway and then went home. [00:35:33] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:35:35] Speaker 2: Do you recall approximately how long it took you to get home? [00:35:39] Speaker 1: I would guess 10 to 12 minutes. Okay. [00:35:55] Speaker 2: When you arrived home, where did you park? [00:35:59] Speaker 1: In the driveway. [00:36:00] Speaker 2: What type of car did you drive then? [00:36:03] Speaker 1: A Chevy Silverado. [00:36:04] Speaker 2: And was that a white pickup truck? Yeah. What kind of car did Lindsay drive then? [00:36:09] Speaker 1: It was a Kia SUV. [00:36:13] Speaker 2: And once you parked there, were both vehicles now in the driveway? [00:36:16] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. So there's the trip. The timing is significant, right? About 12 minutes away, 13 minutes away from his home. But two stops, stopping in CVS to pick up something and then stopping to pick up dinner. So the whole round trip is taking quite some time. Obviously enough time for Lindsay Clancy to take the lives of the three children. So the question is, was this the plan? Or was this coincidental that she sent him out and then she had a psychotic break? Jury's going to have to figure that out. As I mentioned before, there was a time during the testimony when Patrick Clancy was excused from the courtroom. And during that time, the jury heard the 911 call, but there was something else that happened. And it was also significant. This is when the prosecutor brought out the alleged murder weapons and the clothing that these young, small children were wearing at the time that they were killed by their mother, Lindsay. So let's take you back inside the courtroom so you can see and hear this moment. Now, Patrick Clancy has left the courtroom and now the prosecutor is just putting some exhibits into evidence, which is, again, unusual, but understandable in the circumstances. Because you wouldn't want Patrick Clancy sitting up on the witness stand while the prosecutor is putting this stuff and publishing this stuff to the jury. Let's watch. [00:37:51] Speaker 2: I would move to submit some evidence first. It would be the clothing. Cora Clancy was wearing the night of January 24, 2023. Thank you. Thank you. First, the pajama pants. Pajama shirt. Pajama shirt. And then the pink robe. [00:39:12] Speaker 3: Hold it there for one second. If you look at. Kevin Reddington, the attorney for Lindsay Clancy and Lindsay Clancy. Lindsay not looking at this. She can hear everything, obviously, right? But she's not looking at the clothing that her young children were wearing when she killed them. She's grasping his hand for a level of support. It's not an accident. Everything is done for a reason. Again, to garner some level of sympathy for Lindsay Clancy. That's part of what's happening here. But she is getting emotionally impacted by this moment. We saw her during the 911 call. But it started here. Let's watch some more. [00:40:02] Speaker 2: People have these monitors wanting to live it. [00:40:07] Speaker 3: They may be admitted. [00:40:08] Speaker 1: Thank you. [00:40:22] Speaker 2: And then Dawson's clothing. Yeah, the dinosaur underwear for the record. And a gray t-shirt or shirt, long-sleeved shirt. Help us out for the next exhibit, please. [00:40:57] Speaker 4: That may be admitted. [00:40:58] Speaker 2: And then Helen's pajamas. That's the next exhibit, please. [00:41:27] Speaker 3: That may be admitted. [00:41:46] Speaker 2: Yellow exercise band found with Dawson. Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? That may be admitted. [00:41:59] Speaker ?: Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? That may be admitted. Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? [00:42:11] Speaker 2: Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? [00:42:15] Speaker ?: Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? [00:42:20] Speaker 2: Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? [00:42:42] Speaker 4: Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? [00:42:47] Speaker ?: Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? Can I have this as the next exhibit, please? [00:42:53] Speaker 3: What a day. What a day inside the courtroom. Prosecutors are entitled to present their case. You hold up the clothing that they're wearing, extremely normal. It's done in every trial. But here, it's important that the jury understands these are little kids. Little kids. And you can tell that these little kids are real when you hold up the pajamas. All of a sudden, the image becomes much, much clearer. The children were real. The children were strangled to death by their mother. And prosecutors are entitled to prove their case. And that's what was happening today inside the courtroom. Case is far from over. Again, it's not what happened. It's why it happened. And we'll continue our coverage here on this program. That's it for now. I'm Vinnie Politan. Thank you so much for watching. And please don't forget to hug the kids.