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"Two of the biggest names in right wing media, Candace Owens and Sean Ryan, who used to be proud supporters of Donald Trump before becoming two of his biggest and most vociferous critics, sat down for a four hour interview replete with criticisms about the Republican Party, but also conspiracy..."
[0:00] Two of the biggest names in right wing media, Candace Owens and Sean Ryan, who used to be proud supporters of Donald Trump before becoming two of his biggest and most vociferous critics, sat down for a four hour interview replete with criticisms about the Republican Party, but also conspiracy theories galore.
[0:17] But I want to talk about their condemnation of Trump, his corruption and the fact that they will not vote for the Republican Party in the future.
[0:26] But before we unpack all of that, if you end up liking this video and you want to support the channel, please be sure to hit the like, subscribe and alert bells before you go.
[0:35] All right, folks, I want to play two clips from this four hour interview, which I encourage you to check out.
[0:40] Again, these two have a lot in common. They're prone to conspiracy theories.
[0:44] They're both conservative. They both used to be big fans of Donald Trump, and they have since become two of the biggest critics in media against Trump.
[0:52] And as long as they continue to do this, the MAGA Civil War will rage onwards, and I am here for it.
[0:59] So let's start with this.
[1:00] At his core, wants to be liked, and I think he knows he's not liked right now.
[1:04] You think he'll ever be liked again?
[1:06] No.
[1:06] Me neither.
[1:07] Mm-mm.
[1:09] How much wealth has he amassed since he took this presidency?
[1:12] The better question is, how much more do they need?
[1:15] How much more does the Trump family need?
[1:16] I mean, Ivanka swimming to Albania.
[1:19] I mean, like, what, like, how much more money do you guys need?
[1:24] When is enough enough?
[1:26] Never.
[1:27] Yeah, and that's why you feel like they fully have given themselves in, because none of them were like that before.
[1:34] You don't think so?
[1:36] No.
[1:36] I think I spent a lot of time with Don Jr., Don Trump Jr., and he was a real person.
[1:43] All right.
[1:44] This is where you know, again, this is the problem with a lot of MAGA Republicans who have become critics of Trump.
[1:49] We just got to call a spade a spade.
[1:51] We got to be honest here.
[1:52] As much as I love the fact that Candace Owens is, you know, attacking Trump and, you know, criticizing the MAGA movement and fomenting dissent in the ranks, she's full of shit when she says they weren't like this.
[2:03] They were always unparalleled figures of greed.
[2:07] Donald Trump, Don Jr., Eric Trump, unethical, corrupt, far worse than any Democrat.
[2:13] That she used to complain about.
[2:15] She's full of shit.
[2:16] She's either stupid or lying.
[2:18] And I don't think she's stupid.
[2:19] I think she's very clever.
[2:21] She's just lying to try to soothe her own guilt.
[2:23] And he was certainly a very close friend of Charlie's.
[2:28] He shocked me the most after the assassination because I knew Don.
[2:33] And I challenged right away.
[2:36] I challenged him.
[2:37] I said, if Don Jr., who hunts, that's the guy, he knows the wilderness.
[2:41] If Don Jr. comes out and says he believes that Charlie's neck stopped a .30-06 bullet, I'll back off.
[2:51] I don't think Don Jr. has even spoken about Charlie's assassination since.
[3:01] I think a lot of people are going to go to hell for an eternity.
[3:05] I know a lot of people are going to go to hell for an eternity.
[3:08] But the level of talk about the mourning process of realizing that Charlie gave so much of his life to put those people into power, contending with that level of betrayal transformed me.
[3:26] So she seems to believe that Trump and his family are going to hell.
[3:29] Well, they're certainly as antithetical to the teachings of Christ as you could possibly find in public life and political life.
[3:35] But again, this is where I got to knock, Candace, Candace.
[3:39] They were always like this, and you supported them regardless.
[3:42] I'm glad that you're finally turning against them, even if it's for cynical purposes.
[3:46] Again, I am here for the MAGA Civil War.
[3:49] Unapologetically, I will stir the pot, you know, and oh, shit, did you hear what this person said?
[3:54] Oh, are you going to let this person talk to you like that?
[3:56] It's good that we're seeing the fractions here.
[3:58] But I'm not going to let the revisionist history go unanswered.
[4:02] Yeah.
[4:04] So to answer your question, no, I don't consider myself to be a Republican.
[4:08] Yes, I do consider myself to be a conservative.
[4:11] Yeah, I'm the same.
[4:14] I don't even know what the fuck this means.
[4:16] I don't even know if I'll ever vote again.
[4:19] That's how I feel.
[4:19] Probably not.
[4:20] I don't, I just, you know, going through this and uncovering everything that we've uncovered, nothing's changed.
[4:29] I don't know about you, but for me, it's a fuck ton of stress being associated with these people.
[4:38] Now they have my number.
[4:40] They can reach me.
[4:41] I fucking hate that shit.
[4:43] And then what was it all for?
[4:47] This shit that we see.
[4:49] Do you think this needed to happen?
[4:53] So he says, not only do I not consider myself a Republican, I'm not sure I'll ever vote again.
[5:00] And Candace Owens says the same.
[5:02] This is good.
[5:03] This is good, right?
[5:04] If we can't convert them to being pro-Democrat, and if we can't persuade them to vote for the Democrats, the only viable alternative against the morally inferior, far more authoritarian, far more dishonest, far more corrupt Republican Party, then at the very least, if they're so fed up with the Republicans that they're just going to deny them their support, monetary, their voting support, their financial support, their public support, that's also a victory.
[5:30] So fingers crossed that they maintain that level of fury with Trump and the GOP.
[5:36] Here's another clip.
[5:38] Interesting to see Trump sort of do the opposite.
[5:40] And I just go, okay, that's interesting.
[5:47] Man.
[5:49] I don't even wish any ill toward Trump.
[5:54] I don't have any anger.
[5:57] I just, it's worse.
[5:59] It's pity.
[6:00] You don't have any anger?
[6:02] I pity him.
[6:02] I pity a man who has relinquished what was a real power.
[6:12] People loved him, believed in him, you know, thought that he could change things.
[6:17] I pity for earthly riches.
[6:21] Yeah.
[6:22] To give that up, I don't know.
[6:23] And that that will be his legacy.
[6:28] I always pity weak men.
[6:31] I always pity weak men.
[6:32] Because I just think there is something so natural in the way that God designed it for men to lead, for men to be strong, for men to be forthright.
[6:45] And so when you see men that are weak, it does draw from me frustration, but also pity.
[6:53] That's not what God designed you to be, you know?
[6:56] I almost wish I had pity for him, but I just don't.
[7:02] Yeah.
[7:04] He's in, how do you not?
[7:05] He's a slave.
[7:07] He's got all this stuff and he's a slave.
[7:08] Because he's a voluntary slave.
[7:10] He made the fucking decision.
[7:11] He made the decision.
[7:12] He wasn't forced into it.
[7:13] He's a greedy piece of shit.
[7:16] He just wanted to be president.
[7:18] And he was short-sighted.
[7:21] I think he's living in a prison every day.
[7:24] He's a greedy piece of shit.
[7:26] He volunteered for this.
[7:28] He made the choice.
[7:29] I love it.
[7:29] I'm actually with Sean Ryan here, right?
[7:31] Don't deny Trump his agency.
[7:33] So many people, to one extent or another, like to deprive Trump of agency, even though they used to bitch that Joe Biden was some sort of weekend at Bernie's puppet for the deep state.
[7:43] The Biden didn't know what was going on.
[7:44] And the Biden wasn't the one really running the country.
[7:47] And the Trump is a true alpha man.
[7:49] And he knows what he's doing.
[7:50] And he's going to make the decisions.
[7:52] And yet, when it's convenient, they deny him his agency.
[7:55] Oh, he's a slave.
[7:56] Well, a slave.
[7:57] You don't volunteer to be a slave, right?
[7:59] So it's a bit of a, you know, a misnomer by Sean Ryan there.
[8:03] It was kind of a crude thing to say.
[8:05] The whole point of slavery is that you're in bondage to another person involuntarily against your will, right?
[8:11] Trump is not a slave to anything.
[8:13] He's the most powerful and privileged person on earth.
[8:16] He has made his choices.
[8:17] He chose to betray you.
[8:19] He chose to screw you.
[8:20] He chose to betray this country and to put his own self-interest over the interest of his supporters and the American people.
[8:28] And you're right.
[8:29] Actually, Sean Ryan is right.
[8:30] He doesn't deserve your pity.
[8:31] He deserves your contempt, your disdain, your eternal enmity, your lifelong opposition.
[8:36] You should be committed to using your power and your influence to tearing the MAGA movement down electorally, institutionally, and salting the proverbial earth behind you.
[8:50] So I love it.
[8:52] I'm here for this.
[8:53] These are two of the biggest names in right-wing space.
[8:55] Now, you don't have to co-sign or endorse the craziness that comes from them.
[8:59] Sean Ryan has some crazy views, again, prone to conspiracy theories.
[9:03] Candace Owen's even more so and even more far-fetched and absurd conspiracy theories.
[9:07] You're not obligated to co-sign any of it.
[9:09] They're not allies, per se.
[9:11] They're useful tools against their former allies on the right.
[9:16] And maybe over time, Sean Ryan, I'm thinking more in particular than Candace Owens.
[9:22] Perhaps along the way, given Ro Khanna's repeated overtures and outreach to Sean Ryan, Sean Ryan can become a strong force for liberalism.
[9:31] But even if not, the fact that these are the two biggest – two of the biggest names on the right and they're saying these things about Trump and the Republicans publicly, that's a big fucking deal.
[9:43] In the meantime, let me know what you think in the comments.