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"We begin the hour with Donald Trump's priority crisis. Trump pushing the Supreme Court to green light a ballroom that's been paused. Justices were being asked to basically stop the order on this. The move comes a week after a federal court ruled the construction project is illegal. And that is..."
[0:00] We begin the hour with Donald Trump's priority crisis.
[0:03] Trump pushing the Supreme Court to green light a ballroom that's been paused.
[0:09] Justices were being asked to basically stop the order on this.
[0:13] The move comes a week after a federal court ruled the construction project is illegal.
[0:18] And that is because Trump didn't get Congress to approve it.
[0:22] A Congress that, of course, he has a lot of sway over with Republicans.
[0:26] Meanwhile, records reviewed by The Post reveal the administration wants to spend another 900 M.
[0:30] But Trump's request to the high court is part of that whole thing you've heard about, the misuse, many critics say, of a so-called shadow docket,
[0:39] where basically they lose in the normal courts where there's plenty of conservative and Republican-appointed judges,
[0:45] but they go too far and lose, and then they try to sneak it into the shadow docket.
[0:50] We have prices rising. We have a war going much longer than Trump ever promised.
[0:54] We have Americans worried about spending.
[0:55] And we have the labor statistics finding inflation has basically wiped out any wage gains Americans were experiencing.
[1:05] So most politicians with power, and the president obviously has that, would want to use that power to deal with any of that.
[1:12] And yet here is an estimate, just an estimate, but pretty striking from the New York Times' Maggie Hayward.
[1:17] Let's take this in full. I want people to see this headline.
[1:20] 70% of Trump's brain, she says, 70% of his brain is on monuments and vanity projects.
[1:30] That is an interesting account from a New York Times reporter who had that big author, has had a lot of scoops.
[1:36] She has no reason to inflate the numbers.
[1:37] She's a reporter telling you that's basically where his priorities are.
[1:41] And here's a snapshot of how that's looked.
[1:45] We're going to build the greatest ballroom anywhere in the world.
[1:48] There'll be nothing like it.
[1:49] It will have windows that are thicker than any ballroom I've ever built.
[1:52] This is the east wing section.
[1:54] But the ballroom is, as you see, it's going up.
[1:57] It's ahead of schedule.
[1:58] We're building the most beautiful ballroom anywhere in the world, right at the White House.
[2:03] Right at the White House.
[2:05] It's going to be completed very soon.
[2:07] I was in the Great Hall of China recently, four weeks ago when I was in China.
[2:13] They have a very large ballroom, beautiful ballroom.
[2:16] We don't have that.
[2:17] That's the priority set.
[2:20] I want to bring in our panel.
[2:22] Well, we begin, of course, as mentioned, with the expert in whose hour we reside, MSNOW's
[2:29] Michael Steele, also, of course, former RNC chair.
[2:33] Sawyer Hackett's a Democratic strategist with experience on the 2020 Castro campaign.
[2:37] And Lenny McAllister has written for many conservative outlets, also ran for Congress as a Republican
[2:42] back in 2016.
[2:42] He's the author of a Venn diagram of one, an American story.
[2:46] Michael, kick us off.
[2:48] What do you see here in these priorities?
[2:51] I see a developer doing what a developer does.
[2:54] He's prioritizing his projects.
[2:56] He's giving glowing reports on the progress of those projects.
[3:01] He's proud of the sound of hammers and nails and scaffolding going up.
[3:08] He's excited to the point of ecstasy when he looks out onto the White House lawn and he sees
[3:16] the, you know, the carnage that is wrought when you tear up the soil and you begin to
[3:23] put stakes in the ground.
[3:25] Meanwhile, families are struggling to pay their bills.
[3:29] Moms are concerned about how they're going to get their kids in clothing to go back to
[3:34] school and what the lunch menu looks like for the first week of classes this week.
[3:40] You know, dads and others are out there trying to figure out, OK, what does how do we get
[3:47] these aspects of the family focused on the things we need to be focused on?
[3:52] Everybody is focused on the economy and their personal journey.
[3:59] Donald Trump is focused on what a developer is focused on.
[4:02] Republicans, Ari, and you know this, you've heard it many, many times over many years,
[4:08] always used to brag and bray about, you know, what we need is a businessman in the White House.
[4:14] What we need is a businessman.
[4:16] Well, folks, this is what it looks like when you put a businessman in the White House.
[4:19] He does his business because if his business isn't your business, right?
[4:25] Guess what?
[4:26] It's his business.
[4:28] And that's what we're seeing play out right now.
[4:30] No one should be shocked any longer.
[4:32] Can we stop feigning the surprise in the media?
[4:36] Can we stop acting like this is now this is normal?
[4:39] It isn't normal.
[4:40] It is never normal to have a president give so little about the American people.
[4:48] Yeah, you make it clear, which is why people listen to you.
[4:52] I mean, I hear you on that.
[4:53] Sawyer, what's your response?
[4:57] Yeah, I mean, I think this is the perfect kind of encapsulation of how
[5:00] prissy and megalomaniacal this man can be.
[5:02] And, you know, frankly, I this may be an unpopular opinion.
[5:06] But at this point in Donald Trump's presidency, this is exactly what I want him to be spending
[5:11] his time on rather than, you know, spending his time on destroying the economy or prosecuting
[5:16] his enemies or trying to steal an election.
[5:18] I would rather Donald Trump be focused on these kind of vanity projects that are kind of
[5:22] vainglorious and just all about himself.
[5:24] But but really, it's not just that he's focused on these vanity projects.
[5:27] It's that he's focused on them while everything else is crumbling around him.
[5:30] And a lot of that is the economy.
[5:32] But I think it's also just this kind of like ambient dread about a whole bunch of things
[5:36] that Americans didn't have to worry about before, whether that's, you know, salmonella
[5:40] or measles or, you know, cyclosporiasis or whatever it may be.
[5:45] Americans are just dealing with these crisis after crisis in terms of incompetence from
[5:50] government at the same time that they're seeing their president focused on, you know, a reflecting
[5:55] pool, a ballroom, putting his name on the Kennedy Center.
[5:58] It's just a pathetic kind of encapsulation of who this man is.
[6:01] And I think it's ultimately going to be the downfall of Republicans in November.
[6:04] Lenny, I quoted The Times Habermann.
[6:08] Here's more of what she said on a pod about this.
[6:12] I don't really think it's disputable that he is spending a huge amount of energy, mental
[6:17] and otherwise, on these renovation projects, beautification projects around Washington and
[6:23] then monuments to self for which there is no precedent in U.S. history of a sitting president
[6:29] devising such endeavors in their own name.
[6:34] In fact, there is the opposite.
[6:36] There are presidents who have rejected monuments being built to them.
[6:42] Lenny?
[6:44] Well, it's bigger than even that.
[6:47] The bottom line is we have a president that's more focused on him having power than empowering
[6:52] the American people.
[6:54] And when you have a leader, whether it's a president, a governor, a mayor, that's more focused on consolidating
[7:00] power for the few and not empowering people overall, you get this type of focus on projects,
[7:08] on certain pieces of legislation, on certain legacy endeavors that are more about the individual
[7:14] or the movement than they are about the people they're supposed to represent.
[7:17] This is not a surprise because, let's just be clear, the MAGA movement has been focused on consolidating power
[7:24] since 2015-2016.
[7:27] Moving forward, we're going to see the same exact thing for the next two years, and it's
[7:31] going to be incumbent upon voters in 2026 and 2028 to focus on leaders that are actually
[7:37] trying to re-empower the American people, regardless of what constituency they're serving,
[7:42] versus just trying to consolidate power for the few.
[7:47] Yeah, when you look at sort of what you mentioned, the other side, Michael, we have some new
[7:51] remarks here on a discussion with Stacey Evans, with Kamala Harris.
[7:55] Take a listen.
[7:58] Stacey, I'll tell you, I think we've got to be ruthless.
[8:03] And by that, I don't mean the way they are.
[8:06] It's not cruel.
[8:08] But we have to be uncompromising.
[8:11] And we have to understand that we're going to have to toughen up a bit around really being
[8:21] focused on results and not sitting around waiting for Republicans to have an epiphany.
[8:30] Because, you know, people's rent can't wait for that.
[8:34] People's health care and affordability can't wait for that.
[8:37] Being able to afford child care can't wait for that.
[8:42] Michael?
[8:42] Yeah, so this is, we've moved from when they go low, we go high, to we need to be ruthless.
[8:52] And I agree with the former vice president.
[8:56] Democrats need to show, because in that ruthlessness, it's not about cruelty, and it's not about
[9:01] pettiness, and it's not about just going after your political enemies because they're
[9:07] your political enemies.
[9:09] It's fighting for something.
[9:11] It's fighting for someone.
[9:13] It is making very clear the bright lines that you as a party or you as a candidate are prepared
[9:21] to commit to.
[9:23] And it is something that, you know, both Lenny and I know and knew from days gone by in our
[9:30] work inside the Republican Party.
[9:32] His great book that's out now talks a lot about that experience and what that looks like.
[9:38] So even for Republicans, they moved off of, you know, a level of engagement that was sort of
[9:49] sort of New England nice Republicanism to what we see now.
[9:55] Democrats find themselves in a very similar position going into this next part of our century
[10:02] in which they will be and can be the dominant party for democracy until the other party gets
[10:09] its head out of its behind and understands that the way America survives is not through MAGA.
[10:15] It is not through Donald Trump.
[10:17] It is not through the iteration of some authoritarian dream.
[10:23] I had another thought on that one.
[10:25] I'll spare you.
[10:27] But the reality is where the country wants to go.
[10:32] And that's what the first what Kamala Harris is talking about.
[10:37] Are the Democrats prepared to fight for where the country wants to go, where the country needs
[10:41] to go?
[10:42] Are they prepared to be, you know, ruthless, you know, with a good ruthlessness, if you will,
[10:51] to make sure that that happens?
[10:53] You know, it's funny, Michael, and you're such a perfect person to talk about this with because
[10:58] Trump has scrambled the normal divisions for all the reasons I think our informed viewers know.
[11:05] And so you have a constituency in this country that wants what we might call opposition to Trump.
[11:11] Well, I'm not saying that's fully hard left on every answer, but opposition to this, that's
[11:17] the governing they want.
[11:18] But the style, the tenacity, the leadership they want is still tough Republican, not on
[11:26] the other hand, you know, Democratic college professor or what have you, fill in the unfair
[11:32] characterization you want.
[11:33] And so I'm reminded of, you know, Liz Cheney, when she decided to be the opposite, she literally
[11:37] went from Republican leadership to be in the opposition.
[11:39] And all these people in that pro-democracy movement said that.
[11:44] Why don't we have more of that?
[11:45] And you're here as our colleague.
[11:47] But I know people, you don't have to say it, I'll say it.
[11:49] I know people who go, oh, you know, that Michael Steele, I like the way he lays out the reports
[11:53] on democracy and talks about what the stakes are.
[11:56] Of course, you spent a good chunk of your life in the pre-Trump Republican Party.
[11:59] But I want to say it.