About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of MAGA’s defense of Zacharia quickly BACKFIRES after Trump firing from MS NOW, published October 18, 2026. The transcript contains 1,572 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"good evening and happy friday from new york i'm chris hayes what does the phrase the very best people mean to you probably not the same thing it means to donald trump to him a good employee has two qualities first and he's really obsessed with this and keeps talking about it they have to look the..."
[0:00] good evening and happy friday from new york i'm chris hayes what does the phrase the very best
[0:05] people mean to you probably not the same thing it means to donald trump to him a good employee
[0:10] has two qualities first and he's really obsessed with this and keeps talking about it they have to
[0:16] look the part central casting as he calls his imagination and second they have to be obviously
[0:22] servile completely loyal to him above everything and everybody else above any ethical concerns
[0:29] anything and the trouble is there's just not a lot of principal competent substantive people who meet
[0:34] those criteria sometimes it's so bad even the president has to admit it that's where we begin
[0:40] tonight as trump says goodbye to katie zachariah the white house press secretary who no you're not
[0:47] you're not getting this wrong started just on monday and is leaving today friday 18 days out from the
[0:53] midterms in her first and what would prove to be only press conference on tuesday zachariah got to
[0:58] deliver the news of another official's firing that would be of course kimberly guilfoyle the
[1:03] former fiance of donald trump jr who had been inexplicably elevated to ambassador of greece
[1:09] now guilfoyle was first out forced out amid growing allegations of official corruption which
[1:13] she denies although there's some text messages that are pretty troubling three days later zachariah is out
[1:19] as well not for any alleged corruption uh but for sheer incompetence and it is just the latest
[1:24] example of what we like to call trump's reverse meritocracy at work zachariah was manifestly
[1:32] unqualified to be press secretary she got caught repeatedly calling herself a liar when it turned
[1:36] out she had failed the bar and could not practice law she deleted old social media posts boosting
[1:41] pizza gaze conspiracy theories about democrats and hollywood elites eating children and one about
[1:45] michelle obama having a penis and at the podium she stammered for 15 minutes in a manner that had
[1:52] even some right-wing pundits concerned for her some though we should say but not all because here's
[1:57] the thing zachariah was donald trump's pick which meant what that the mega media needed once again
[2:03] to rally together and defend the indefensible in the strongest terms possible kudos to her for coming
[2:12] out and just saying i'm going to do a briefing i'm going to do it within 24 hours and i'm going to drop
[2:16] it and she came out loaded with news and then she dropped the mic and walked away and so i think from
[2:20] a strategic perspective that was a really smart move as she does this she'll develop authority
[2:26] and she'll be great remember corinne jean pierre we did whole segments about how catastrophic she was
[2:33] she couldn't talk she couldn't pronounce words by the way where is corinne jean pierre so forget about
[2:38] all that noise zachariah has been mocked she's been attacked over her appearance her hair the way she
[2:43] spoke they questioned her intelligence her credentials they even asked about her bar exam all of this from a
[2:49] group of people that claim to champion women in the workplace checkmate libs you say you want women
[2:57] in the workplace but then you criticize someone who's obviously preposterously incompetent the praise
[3:04] came from inside the administration too white house communications director stephen chung himself
[3:09] an individual with a record of very troubling erratic behavior in public if you read his posts
[3:14] here's what he had to say listen closely right up and down the white house everyone has been
[3:20] thoroughly impressed with katie in just a few short days on the job at the end of this second term
[3:25] she'll be remembered as one of the all-time greats that post is an all-time great now thank you steven
[3:35] the next logical step of course was a goodwill tour of the right-wing media circuit but sean hannity a
[3:41] master of the softball interview so good at it we call it hannitizing his subject who you just heard
[3:47] praising zachari a few days ago ended up hitting her hard on her background you said you consulted
[3:54] with many people and they advised you that it was okay to call yourself a lawyer but not an attorney
[4:00] correct correct okay there's a report out tonight that showed 15 social media posts where you identify
[4:08] yourself as an attorney i think they were retweets why didn't you just say i never practiced law well sean i
[4:17] when i moved back from the united states i didn't retake the bar i had four kids in six years it was
[4:21] never my intent to go into the practice of law today on fox and friends the host tried to throw zachari
[4:28] a couple of bones and honestly it didn't go much better you never want to be the story but i have to
[4:36] ask do you wish you would have disclosed to the president about the bar and not passing the bar
[4:43] yeah well lawrence those questions weren't asked i'm being hired as white house press secretary and not
[4:49] white house counsel do you think you still have the confidence of the president uh i i'm standing
[4:56] here and i was able to travel with him through all of the midterm convention or excuse me the midterm
[5:02] rallies and i hope to be able to build the trust and confidence of everyone around me all right katie
[5:08] thanks so much for joining fox and friends this morning thank you so much uh off and running i mean
[5:15] i gotta say this being a good talker is not the most important skill for a human being to have there
[5:19] are brilliant people who are not good talkers there's good talkers who are not brilliant
[5:24] but being a good talker is real important for that job mind you as all this was going down for the
[5:31] past few days there were no other white house press conferences but many questions about the white
[5:35] house press secretary today trump told reporters why he had hired her and why it might have been a
[5:41] mistake i said to katie just two minutes ago i said katie you know you don't have to do this if you don't
[5:48] want i said to her honestly if i were you i'd reconsider you think about it but i would reconsider
[5:55] you got a beautiful husband and family i just want her to be happy look he has suffered over the
[6:02] the last few days and i'm not saying you know maybe it's not for her
[6:07] katie continue to be in the administration yeah what she's saying she's got this good
[6:13] and maybe a more pleasant form she's been very good you know she's been loyal to me from day one
[6:17] for a long time but it's not an easy job i was around 1 15 this afternoon about 15 minutes later we
[6:24] got the first reports that zacharai was out she lasted a week or just under half a scaramucci
[6:30] but did you notice what trump said qualified her for the job listen carefully she's been loyal to
[6:36] me from day one that's it right he takes all the standards of merit or performance or experience and
[6:42] he throws it out in exchange for that for craven loyalty of course he has no loyalty to any of these
[6:48] people or anyone especially we have to note the women who work for him who have left or been forced
[6:54] out of the administration in droves you got pam bondy christine noem kelsey gabbard labor secretary
[6:59] lori chavez de remer are all gone by the way all replaced by men now you got kimberly guilfoyle
[7:05] and katie zachariah added to the list now to be very clear none of these people were suitable to
[7:10] run the federal government in the first place some of them were genuinely egregiously terrible but
[7:15] that's true about cash patel and harald lutnik it's certainly true about pete hegseth another guy trump
[7:21] reportedly hired because he had the look could you imagine pete hegseth getting tough questions from
[7:27] hannity about his past tweets much less the other allegations that have been leveled against him
[7:31] could you imagine trump telling hegseth you don't have to do this you have a beautiful family at home
[7:36] and say what you will about zachariah but at least she hasn't ordered the mass murder of over 200
[7:41] sailors on boats in the caribbean in violation of international domestic law and in a shred of human
[7:45] decency donald trump has turned merit on its head he has replaced dei with affirmative action for chuds
[7:54] and dunces this is what that gets you a team of mediocrities a breeding ground for corruption
[8:00] a country in crisis and an all-time low approval rating for donald trump's white house reality show
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