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LIVESTREAM: House session on VP Sara Duterte’s impeachment case (April 14, 2026)

Philippine STAR April 14, 2026 1h 20m 8,831 words 3 views
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"And ito lang po ang gusto kong sabihin sa lahat, we are here committed to the issues at hand, not to any kind of personal conflict. Under Section 17 of the Rules of Procedure in Impeachment Proceedings, the rule of court applies as suppletory to these proceedings. Jurisprudence and parliamentary..."

[0:00] And ito lang po ang gusto kong sabihin sa lahat, we are here committed to the issues at hand, not to any kind of personal conflict. [0:10] Under Section 17 of the Rules of Procedure in Impeachment Proceedings, the rule of court applies as suppletory to these proceedings. [0:24] Jurisprudence and parliamentary practice dictate that we must examine, at tinatawag po nating recital of facts, to determine the pieces of evidence in support of this complaint under Section 5 of our Impeachment Rules. [0:44] Ano po yung mga yan, mga kaibigan? [0:46] The core allegations, beyond confidential, na tinatawag natin. [0:52] Gusto ko pong tukuyin ang sinabi ni Ramil Madriaga. [0:57] Madriaga's testimony provides a chilling look into the movement of public funds that circumvented every known audit safeguard. [1:10] Number one, direct instructions from the Vice President. [1:16] Madriaga identifies himself as a close ally and leader, stating he was formally introduced to then Mayor Sara Duterte in 2018 and tasked with intelligence gathering. [1:34] Hindi ko po yan inimbento, nagalagay po yan sa affidavit ni Ramil Madriaga na aking hawak ngayon. [1:42] Kung ipapakita ko itong affidavit na ito, ito po nakalagay lahat. [1:47] Lahat ng babanggitin ko dito tungkol kay Ramil Madriaga nakalagay sa kanyang affidavit. [1:53] Natanggap ko rin yung supplemental affidavit niya na ina-attest ang kanyang unang affidavit niya ito. [2:00] Mas makapal kaysa sa unang affidavit. [2:04] Hindi ko po tatatututukan itong supplemental affidavit at sabalit sa pakakapahintulutan ng ating Madam Chair, [2:14] maaaring ako din naman ay magtanong ng clarifying questions tungkol sa supplemental affidavit na ito. [2:22] Ayan. Ano po yung direct instructions na nanggaling sa Vice President? [2:28] Sinabi ni Madriaga, ini-identify niya ang kanyang sarili as a close ally and leader, [2:35] stating, ito po ha, he was formally introduced to then Mayor Sarah Duterte in 2018 and tasked with what? [2:45] Intelligence gathering. [2:46] He claims, yun ang sinabi niya, he formed the Inday Sarah Duterte is my President. [2:55] In short, isip. [2:58] Yung pong isip group na ito at her direct instruction. [3:05] Number two, the duffel bags of cash. [3:10] Yung po'y binanggit din naman ni Madriaga. [3:13] Most importantly, Madriaga narrates that on December 2022, the same day the OVP encashed 125 million in confidential funds, [3:29] he witnessed the transfer. [3:32] Nakita niya ang pagkaka-transfer ng apat na duffel bags. [3:38] It's containing between 33 million pesos to 35 million pesos. [3:45] Yun po ang sinasabi ng kanyang affidavit. [3:49] Number three, the SM Mega Mall and Ombudsman deliveries. [3:54] He details driving a white Vios. [3:58] O, pati yung name ng kotse, binanggit niya. [4:01] Pati yung kulay, binanggit niya. [4:03] Filled with 80 million pesos in cash to the SM Mega Mall parking lot, leaving the keys on the tire for retrieval. [4:16] He further alleges, ito po, a similar drop-off at the Ombudsman parking compound. [4:23] Number four, the Pogo Connection. [4:27] Kung maalala po ninyo, sa Quadcom hearing po namin, tinudukan namin ang Pogo Connection na yan. [4:32] At dahilan po dyan, ngayon bawal na lahat ng mga Pogo sa ating bansa. [4:38] Madriaga alleges that the national campaign of ISIP, Pilipinas, was funded by Pogo operators and drug dealers. [4:50] Yan ang sinabi niya. [4:51] And that he personally picked up bags of cash at locations like the Grand Hyatt BGC and the Seda Hotel. [5:00] Now, when it comes to justification for clarificatory question, for example, [5:08] Madam Chair, section 7 of our impeachment rules grants this committee the power to, and I quote, [5:19] issue compulsory processes for the attendance of witnesses and the production of documents. [5:28] End of quote. [5:29] Now, if these allegations are true, [5:34] if these allegations are true, [5:37] o, nilalagyan po ng if e, [5:39] sa baka hindi naman tayo nagko-convict dito e. [5:42] O, if these allegations are true, [5:45] we are looking at the literal conversion of the public treasury [5:51] into duffel bags for private distribution. [5:57] This is why clarificatory questions are not just a procedural right, [6:05] they are a constitutional necessity. [6:09] That we need to ask, [6:11] bakit kailangan dumaan ang pera sa duffel bag? [6:16] At karkis, [6:17] karkis kung legal ito. [6:21] How can the office of the vice president justify [6:24] spending 125 million pesos [6:28] in just 11 days [6:30] in safe houses [6:33] for payees that PSA says [6:36] do not even exist? [6:40] Oh. [6:41] If there is nothing to hide, [6:43] Madam Chair, [6:44] ladies and gentlemen, [6:45] if there is nothing to hide, [6:47] therefore, [6:49] there is nothing to fear. [6:51] Oh. [6:52] From what others term to be [6:55] fishing expedition? [6:58] Hindi ba yun ang sabi ng iba? [7:00] Fishing expedition. [7:02] Why? [7:02] Because the waters will come up empty. [7:06] How can you have fishing expedition [7:09] when there is no water itself? [7:11] To justify it. [7:13] No. [7:13] But if the water is murky, [7:16] if the water is murky, [7:17] the people deserve to know [7:20] what is swimming underneath. [7:23] And that is the duty [7:24] of this Committee on Justice hearing. [7:29] Oh. [7:30] Alright. [7:31] On the fishing expedition [7:32] and mini-trial claims, [7:34] Madam Chair, [7:35] may mga pumupuna [7:37] na ang ginagawa natin [7:40] ay isang fishing expedition [7:42] o isang mini-trial. [7:45] Dito po, [7:46] sa hearing na ito. [7:47] Let's be clear. [7:48] Ako, [7:49] hindi ako abogado [7:49] pero naiintindihan ko [7:51] ang ibig sabihin niyan eh. [7:52] Alright. [7:53] Let's be clear. [7:55] We are not here to convict. [7:57] Sinabi na yan ni Madam Chair. [7:59] Oo. [7:59] We are here to determine a what? [8:02] A threshold. [8:05] To determine a threshold. [8:06] This is a duty, [8:09] not a trial. [8:11] Ito ang tungkulin po [8:13] ng committee ito. [8:14] This is not a trial. [8:17] Determination of probable cause [8:19] is a constitutional mandate, [8:23] not a legal destruction. [8:26] Critics are confusing a trial [8:29] with a threshold. [8:32] Oho. [8:32] Hindi tayo nandito [8:34] para hatulan [8:35] ang vice-presidente. [8:36] Nandito tayo [8:38] para tingnan [8:40] kung may sapat na uso [8:42] para patunayang may suno. [8:46] Oho. [8:47] Hindi ba? [8:48] Calling this [8:49] a mini-trial [8:51] is a myth. [8:54] This is [8:54] constitutional accountability [8:57] mechanism [8:58] in action. [9:00] Uulitin ko. [9:01] Ito pong hearing na ito [9:02] is a constitutional [9:04] accountability [9:05] mechanism [9:06] in action. [9:08] Accountability. [9:09] Madam Chair, [9:12] ladies and gentlemen, [9:13] it's not [9:13] fishing expedition. [9:16] Kapag sinundan mo [9:18] ang bakas [9:18] ng pera ng bayan, [9:21] ang tawag doon [9:22] oversight. [9:23] Kapag sinundan mo [9:24] ang [9:25] bakas [9:27] ng pera [9:28] ng bayan, [9:29] ang tawag natin [9:30] doon [9:31] oversight. [9:32] Hindi fishing. [9:33] Oho. [9:34] If the vice president's [9:35] records [9:36] are clear, [9:37] a supina [9:39] should be [9:40] a welcome [9:41] opportunity [9:42] for transparency, [9:45] not a reason [9:46] for panic. [9:48] Sana po, [9:49] andito po [9:49] ang ating vice president, [9:51] katabi pa naman namin [9:52] ni Congressman Laila, [9:54] eh magkata sana [9:55] ang fellowship [9:55] namin ngayon. [9:58] Magkukumustahan [9:59] ho kami. [10:00] Hindi ba? [10:01] Ano po ang maaaring [10:02] mangyari? [10:04] Sapagat di ko naman [10:04] siya kaaway. [10:06] You cannot claim [10:07] a fishing expedition [10:09] when the bait [10:11] is specific [10:13] allegations [10:14] of fund misuse [10:15] is already [10:17] on the hook. [10:18] Nandun na mismo, [10:19] eh, [10:19] sa hook, eh. [10:20] We are just [10:21] doing our what? [10:23] Tinatawag natin [10:24] due diligence. [10:26] Tinitiyak natin [10:28] na kumpleto [10:29] ang ebidensya [10:30] kapag inayain [10:31] natin senado [10:32] ang kaso [10:33] dahil ang house [10:35] ang tatayong [10:36] tagausig [10:37] o prosecutor doon. [10:40] Hindi po persecutor [10:41] kundi prosecutor. [10:45] Now, [10:46] on the qualifications [10:47] of Ramil Madriaga, [10:50] Madam Chair, [10:51] kini-question po ito [10:53] ng ilan. [10:54] Let us talk about [10:56] our resource persons [10:57] according [10:58] to his affidavit. [11:00] Ramil Lagunoy Madriaga, [11:04] a graduate [11:04] of San Sebastian [11:06] College of Law [11:07] and a former officer [11:09] of the PSG [11:10] and VPSPG. [11:13] He is not a stranger. [11:15] He was a close ally [11:17] and leader [11:18] who formed [11:18] the ISIP movement [11:19] at the VPS [11:21] direct instruction. [11:23] May mga humihiling [11:24] na i-disqualify siya [11:27] dahil sa mga [11:28] kinakaharap [11:29] na kaso. [11:30] But under Rule 130 [11:33] of the Rules of Court, [11:36] a witness [11:36] is qualified. [11:39] Kung ako gustong [11:40] questionin ng abogado, [11:41] kung siya nyo nakilito, [11:42] ano nakalagay? [11:44] Sa Rule 130 [11:45] of the Rules of Court, [11:46] a witness [11:47] is qualified [11:48] if they can [11:49] perceive [11:50] and make known [11:51] their perception [11:52] to others. [11:54] It is ironic [11:55] that critics [11:57] demand [11:57] the presumption [11:59] of innocence [12:00] for the Vice President [12:01] while [12:02] simultaneously [12:03] trying to [12:04] disqualify [12:05] a witness [12:06] based on [12:07] unproven charges. [12:10] Hindi ba [12:10] naniniwala tayo [12:12] kung hindi pa po [12:13] yan kinunvict [12:14] ng Korte? [12:15] Yan po'y suspect. [12:17] A suspect [12:17] is presumed [12:18] innocent [12:19] until proven guilty. [12:21] Oo yan. [12:22] Nabasa ko po yan. [12:23] Naniniwala [12:24] ang mga abogado [12:24] yan. [12:25] Hindi po ba? [12:26] Ito ang nakalagay dito. [12:30] Sabi ko, [12:32] it is ironic [12:33] that critics [12:34] demand [12:34] the presumption [12:36] of innocence [12:36] for the Vice President [12:38] while simultaneously [12:40] trying to [12:40] disqualify [12:41] a witness [12:42] based [12:42] on unproven [12:43] charges. [12:45] You cannot [12:45] have it [12:46] both ways. [12:47] Kung presume [12:48] innocent [12:49] si Vice President [12:50] Sara, [12:51] eh di presume [12:52] innocent din [12:53] si Ramil [12:54] Madriaga. [12:56] Oo. [12:56] Ngayon, [12:57] ito po, [12:58] ang gusto ko rin sabihin, [13:00] magkaiba [13:01] ang competency [13:03] to be a witness [13:04] at credibility [13:06] as a witness. [13:09] Ano po [13:09] magkakaiba? [13:10] Yung competency, [13:13] pwede ba siya [13:13] tumistigo? [13:15] The answer [13:15] is legal yes. [13:17] Oo. [13:18] Yung credibility, [13:19] kapanipaniwala ba siya? [13:21] That is for [13:22] this committee [13:23] to weigh. [13:25] Let him speak [13:26] and let the evidence [13:28] do the talking. [13:29] Mga kaibigan, [13:32] Madam Chair, [13:34] hindi santo [13:35] si Madriaga. [13:38] Hindi naman santo [13:39] ang hinahanap natin [13:40] kundi testigo [13:40] dito [13:42] sa hearing na ito. [13:44] We are looking [13:45] for the truth. [13:47] We are not looking [13:48] for a saint. [13:50] History's most [13:51] important [13:52] whistleblowers [13:54] are rarely [13:55] individuals [13:56] without a pass. [13:58] To block [13:59] witnesses [14:00] and suppressed [14:01] documents [14:02] is not [14:03] a defense [14:04] of the law. [14:05] It is [14:06] a defense [14:07] of secrecy. [14:10] Madam Chair, [14:11] let me conclude [14:12] with this. [14:14] This committee [14:14] is not being asked [14:17] to convict [14:18] the Vice President. [14:20] We are being asked [14:22] to look [14:22] into the seriousness [14:24] of the allegations [14:25] against her. [14:27] Uulitin ko po [14:28] sa ating mga kabaheng [14:29] nanonood [14:30] sa wikang Tagalog. [14:32] Hindi po ito [14:33] task ng committee [14:34] para ating [14:36] gawing guilty [14:37] ang ating [14:37] Vice President. [14:40] Tayo lamang po [14:40] meron ditong [14:41] tungkulin [14:42] upan tingnan [14:44] ang seriousness [14:46] ng mga [14:47] allegations [14:48] against her. [14:50] Tayo po ba [14:50] ang nabigay [14:51] ng allegations? [14:52] Hindi po. [14:54] Nandito [14:54] ang mga [14:55] witnesses. [14:55] When public funds [14:58] are alleged [14:59] to have been [15:01] converted [15:01] into duffel [15:02] bags of cash, [15:05] the responsible [15:06] response [15:06] is not [15:08] to shut [15:08] our eyes [15:09] but to follow [15:11] the money [15:12] and examine [15:13] the facts. [15:15] Hindi ito [15:16] fishing expedition. [15:18] This is [15:19] a constitutional [15:20] oversight. [15:22] This is [15:23] accountability [15:24] in action. [15:25] Madam Chair, [15:27] this proceeding [15:28] is not [15:31] about [15:31] personality. [15:32] Sinabi nyo [15:33] uulitin ko, [15:34] it is [15:35] about [15:35] accountability. [15:38] This [15:38] hearing [15:39] is not [15:39] political [15:40] theater. [15:42] This [15:42] is a [15:43] constitutional [15:44] duty. [15:45] If [15:46] the [15:48] records [15:48] are [15:48] clean, [15:49] kung malinis [15:50] po ang [15:51] record [15:51] ng ating [15:51] Vice [15:52] President, [15:52] then [15:53] transparency [15:53] will [15:54] clear the [15:55] air. [15:56] But [15:56] if [15:57] there [15:57] are [15:57] irregularities, [15:59] the [15:59] Filipino [16:00] people [16:00] have [16:01] the [16:01] right [16:02] to [16:02] know. [16:03] We [16:03] cannot [16:04] refuse [16:04] to ask [16:05] questions [16:06] simply [16:06] because [16:07] the [16:07] answers [16:08] may [16:08] be [16:08] uncomfortable. [16:10] Our [16:10] duty [16:11] at this [16:12] stage [16:12] is [16:12] simple. [16:14] Determine [16:15] whether [16:16] the [16:16] smoke [16:16] is [16:17] real [16:17] enough [16:17] to [16:18] warrant [16:19] a full [16:19] constitutional [16:21] process. [16:23] Calling [16:24] this [16:24] process, [16:25] as I [16:25] repeat, [16:26] a mini [16:27] trial [16:27] is a [16:28] convenient [16:29] distraction. [16:31] What we [16:31] are doing [16:32] is determining [16:33] whether [16:33] there is [16:34] sufficient [16:34] basis [16:35] to [16:35] proceed. [16:36] Nothing [16:37] more, [16:38] nothing [16:38] less. [16:39] Kung [16:40] may [16:40] usok, [16:41] tungkulin [16:42] nating [16:42] alaman, [16:43] kung [16:44] may [16:44] sunog. [16:45] At [16:45] kung [16:45] walang [16:46] tinatago, [16:47] walang [16:48] dapat [16:49] ikatakot. [16:51] We [16:51] owe [16:51] this [16:52] not [16:53] only [16:53] to the [16:54] Vice [16:54] President, [16:55] who [16:55] deserves [16:56] a fair [16:56] process, [16:58] but more [16:59] importantly, [17:01] we owe [17:02] this to the [17:02] Filipino [17:03] people, [17:04] whose [17:04] money [17:05] is at [17:06] the [17:06] heart [17:06] of [17:06] these [17:07] allegations. [17:09] Transparency [17:10] is not [17:11] persecution. [17:13] Questions [17:13] are not [17:15] convictions. [17:16] And [17:16] accountability [17:17] is not [17:18] harassment. [17:19] It is [17:20] the [17:20] life [17:20] blood [17:21] of a [17:22] functioning [17:22] democracy. [17:25] I would [17:25] like to [17:25] remind [17:26] everyone [17:26] to the [17:28] scriptures [17:29] written [17:29] in Luke [17:30] 8.17. [17:31] Sabi po [17:32] ng Panginoong [17:32] Heso [17:33] Kristo, [17:33] for [17:34] nothing [17:35] is [17:35] secret [17:36] that [17:37] shall [17:37] not [17:37] be [17:38] made [17:38] manifest. [17:40] Neither [17:40] anything [17:41] hid [17:41] that [17:42] shall [17:42] not [17:43] be [17:43] known [17:44] and [17:44] come [17:45] abroad. [17:46] Maraming [17:46] salamat po, [17:47] Madam Chair. [17:48] Thank you. [17:49] Thank you, [17:49] Honorable [17:49] Abante. [17:51] Both [17:51] the [17:52] manifestations [17:52] of the [17:53] Honorable [17:53] Delima [17:54] and the [17:54] Honorable [17:54] Abante [17:55] will [17:55] form [17:56] part [17:56] of [17:57] the [17:57] record [17:57] of [17:58] our [17:59] today's [17:59] proceeding. [18:00] Before [18:00] we [18:01] proceed, [18:02] may [18:02] we [18:02] know [18:03] from [18:04] the [18:04] Committee [18:04] Secretary [18:05] whether [18:05] the [18:06] complainants [18:07] are [18:07] present [18:08] in [18:08] today's [18:08] hearing. [18:09] May [18:09] we [18:09] request [18:10] the [18:10] complainants [18:10] to [18:11] please [18:11] stand [18:12] up. [18:13] Father [18:14] Sabalia [18:14] et al [18:15] for [18:15] the [18:15] third [18:15] impeachment [18:16] complaint. [18:20] Let [18:20] us [18:20] place [18:21] on [18:21] record [18:21] that [18:22] the [18:22] private [18:23] complainants [18:24] in [18:24] the [18:24] third [18:24] impeachment [18:25] complaint [18:26] are [18:26] present [18:27] in [18:27] today's [18:28] hearing. [18:29] Thank [18:29] you. [18:29] You [18:29] may [18:29] take [18:30] your [18:30] seat. [18:31] May [18:31] I [18:32] request [18:32] if [18:33] he's [18:33] around [18:33] Attorney [18:35] Cabrera [18:36] to [18:37] stand [18:37] up [18:38] if [18:38] he's [18:38] present [18:39] in our [18:39] proceeding [18:40] Attorney [18:41] Cabrera. [18:44] Let [18:44] it be [18:45] part of [18:46] our [18:46] record [18:46] as well [18:47] that the [18:47] man [18:48] standing [18:48] with [18:48] the [18:49] mask [18:49] is [18:50] Attorney [18:50] Cabrera, [18:52] the [18:52] complainant [18:53] in the [18:54] fourth [18:54] impeachment [18:54] complaint. [18:55] Maraming [18:56] salamat [18:56] at [18:59] this [18:59] juncture [19:00] the [19:00] chair [19:01] directs [19:02] the [19:03] committee [19:03] secretary [19:04] to [19:05] call [19:05] the [19:06] role [19:06] of [19:07] resource [19:07] persons. [19:08] Thank [19:10] you [19:10] Madam [19:10] Chair. [19:11] On [19:11] behalf [19:12] of [19:12] the [19:12] committee [19:12] on [19:12] justice [19:13] we [19:13] would [19:13] like [19:13] to [19:14] acknowledge [19:14] the [19:15] presence [19:15] of [19:15] the [19:16] following [19:16] resource [19:16] persons. [19:17] from the [19:18] office of [19:19] the [19:19] Ombudsman [19:19] Ombudsman [19:20] Jesus [19:21] Crispin [19:21] C. [19:21] Remulia [19:22] from the [19:23] Bureau of [19:24] Internal [19:24] Revenue [19:25] BIR [19:25] Commissioner [19:26] Attorney [19:26] Charlito [19:27] Martin [19:28] R. [19:28] Mendoza [19:29] May I [19:33] request [19:34] the [19:34] resource [19:35] persons [19:35] to [19:35] kindly [19:36] stand [19:36] up [19:36] to [19:37] be [19:37] recognized [19:37] as [19:39] your [19:39] names [19:39] are [19:40] called [19:40] by [19:41] the [19:41] committee [19:41] secretary [19:42] please [19:42] continue [19:43] comsec [19:43] from the [19:44] commission [19:45] on [19:45] audit [19:45] Attorney [19:46] Gloria [19:46] A. [19:47] Camora [19:47] State [19:48] Auditor [19:48] Intelligence [19:49] and [19:49] Confidential [19:50] Funds [19:50] Audit [19:51] Office [19:51] from the [19:55] National [19:56] Bureau [19:56] of [19:56] Investigation [19:57] NBI [19:58] Director [19:58] Attorney [19:59] Melvin [19:59] A. [19:59] Matibag [20:00] Ms. [20:01] Caroline [20:02] J. [20:03] Moldez [20:03] Pitoy [20:04] and [20:06] Mr. [20:06] Antonio [20:06] Magbohos [20:07] from the [20:09] Philippine [20:10] Statistics [20:10] Authority [20:11] Assistant [20:12] National [20:13] Statistician [20:14] Engineer [20:14] Mariza [20:15] B. [20:15] Grande [20:16] PSA [20:17] Director [20:18] Attorney [20:18] Eliezer [20:19] P. [20:20] Ambatali [20:20] Attorney [20:22] Iris [20:23] Jane [20:24] A. [20:24] Tan [20:25] Registration [20:27] Officer [20:28] 5 [20:28] Emilio [20:29] C. [20:30] Kerubin [20:30] Jr. [20:32] and [20:32] Special [20:33] Investigator [20:34] Sherwin [20:34] S. [20:35] Mariano [20:35] from the [20:37] Legislative [20:38] Information [20:39] and Research [20:39] Management [20:40] Department [20:41] of [20:41] House [20:41] of the [20:42] Representatives [20:42] Director [20:45] Marivik [20:45] M. [20:46] Pareja [20:46] Legislative [20:47] Archives [20:48] and [20:48] Museum [20:48] Management [20:49] Service [20:50] Attorney [20:51] Michael [20:52] Wesley [20:52] Tipoa [20:53] Council [20:53] for the [20:54] Vice [20:54] President [20:55] Attorney [20:56] Cynthia [20:57] Viñas [20:57] Pantanal [20:58] Notary [20:58] Public [20:59] and [21:00] Mr. [21:00] Ramil [21:01] Laguno [21:01] Madriaga [21:02] That's [21:03] That's all [21:03] Your Honor [21:04] For the [21:06] record [21:07] the [21:07] Chair [21:07] likewise [21:08] direct [21:08] the [21:08] Committee [21:09] Secretary [21:09] to call [21:11] Respondent [21:12] Vice [21:13] President [21:13] This is [21:18] to know [21:19] if she's [21:20] present or [21:21] not [21:21] in our [21:22] today's [21:22] hearing [21:23] Come sec [21:23] please [21:24] call [21:25] Respondent [21:26] Vice [21:26] President [21:27] The [21:28] Respondent [21:29] was [21:29] duly [21:30] notified [21:30] of [21:30] today's [21:31] hearing [21:31] however [21:31] she's [21:32] not [21:32] present [21:33] today [21:33] Let it [21:35] be [21:36] part [21:36] of [21:36] our [21:36] record [21:37] that [21:37] notice [21:38] was [21:39] served [21:39] by [21:39] the [21:39] Committee [21:40] to [21:40] Respondent [21:41] Vice [21:41] President [21:42] but [21:42] at [21:43] this [21:43] time [21:44] she's [21:45] not [21:45] present [21:45] in [21:46] our [21:46] hearing [21:46] Madam [21:48] Chair [21:48] Madam [21:49] Chair [21:50] The [21:50] Honorable [21:50] Dilemma [21:51] I can't [21:52] help [21:53] noticing [21:53] when [21:54] the [21:54] Committee [21:54] Secretary [21:55] was [21:55] doing [21:56] the [21:56] roll [21:56] call [21:56] of [21:57] the [21:57] resource [21:57] persons [21:58] that [21:59] she [21:59] was [21:59] referring [22:00] to [22:01] Attorney [22:01] Michael [22:02] Wesley [22:03] Powa [22:03] as [22:04] counsel [22:04] I [22:06] think [22:06] it [22:06] has [22:06] to [22:06] be [22:06] clarified [22:07] does [22:08] his [22:08] appearance [22:09] today [22:09] is [22:10] in [22:10] his [22:11] capacity [22:11] as [22:11] counsel [22:12] for [22:12] the [22:12] respondent [22:13] or [22:14] merely [22:14] his [22:15] capacity [22:16] then [22:16] as [22:17] spokesperson [22:18] of [22:20] DepEd [22:21] Honorable [22:22] Dilemma [22:23] before we [22:23] address [22:23] your [22:24] concern [22:24] we [22:24] will [22:25] first [22:25] administer [22:26] the [22:26] oath [22:26] so [22:27] that [22:27] the [22:27] response [22:28] to [22:28] you [22:28] of [22:28] Attorney [22:28] Powa [22:29] will [22:29] form [22:29] part [22:30] of [22:30] the [22:30] records [22:30] of [22:31] our [22:31] proceeding [22:31] so [22:32] at [22:32] this [22:32] point [22:33] we [22:33] direct [22:33] the [22:34] Committee [22:34] Secretary [22:34] to [22:35] administer [22:36] the [22:36] oath [22:36] to [22:36] all [22:37] our [22:37] resource [22:37] persons [22:38] we're [22:38] requesting [22:39] them [22:39] to [22:39] please [22:40] stand [22:40] up [22:40] please [22:46] raise [22:46] your [22:46] right [22:47] hand [22:47] do you [22:48] swear [22:49] to [22:49] tell [22:49] the [22:49] truth [22:50] the [22:50] whole [22:50] truth [22:50] and [22:51] nothing [22:51] but [22:51] the [22:51] truth [22:51] before [22:52] this [22:52] Committee [22:52] the [22:59] oath [22:59] has [23:00] has [23:00] been [23:00] administered [23:00] thank [23:02] you [23:02] now [23:03] we [23:03] go [23:03] back [23:04] to [23:04] the [23:04] concern [23:04] of [23:04] the [23:05] Honorable [23:05] Dilemma [23:05] we [23:06] recognize [23:06] Attorney [23:07] Powa [23:07] to [23:08] please [23:09] make [23:09] a [23:09] clarification [23:09] as [23:10] to [23:10] what [23:10] capacity [23:11] you [23:12] are [23:12] appearing [23:12] in [23:13] today's [23:13] proceeding [23:13] good [23:14] morning [23:14] Madam [23:15] Chair [23:15] good [23:15] morning [23:15] honorable [23:16] members [23:16] of [23:16] the [23:16] committee [23:17] thank [23:18] you [23:18] for [23:18] the [23:18] question [23:18] honorable [23:19] Dilemma [23:19] based [23:21] on the [23:21] subpoena [23:21] that I [23:22] was [23:22] furnished [23:23] with [23:23] I'm [23:23] appearing [23:24] as the [23:25] former [23:26] undersecretary [23:27] and chief [23:27] of staff [23:27] and spokesperson [23:28] of the [23:28] Department [23:29] of Education [23:29] and not [23:30] as [23:30] counsel [23:31] of [23:31] the [23:31] vice [23:31] president [23:32] your [23:32] honor [23:32] thank [23:33] you [23:33] for [23:33] the [23:33] clarification [23:33] thank [23:34] you [23:34] with [23:37] that [23:37] we [23:37] wish [23:38] to [23:38] ask [23:39] the [23:40] resource [23:41] persons [23:41] with [23:42] respect [23:42] to [23:43] the [23:43] requested [23:45] documents [23:46] of [23:46] this [23:46] committee [23:47] let [23:47] me [23:47] start [23:48] with [23:48] Attorney [23:49] Sincha [23:50] Pantanal [23:51] you're [23:52] recognized [23:53] were [23:54] you [23:54] able [23:54] to [23:54] bring [23:55] the [23:56] affidavit [23:58] of [23:58] Ramil [23:59] Madriaga [24:00] good [24:03] morning [24:03] Madam Chair [24:04] I have [24:04] the [24:05] certification [24:05] issued [24:06] by the [24:06] office [24:07] of [24:07] the [24:07] clerk [24:07] of [24:07] court [24:08] of [24:08] Taguid [24:08] City [24:09] that [24:10] the [24:10] affidavit [24:11] of [24:12] Radil [24:12] Madriaga [24:13] was [24:14] duly [24:14] entered [24:14] in [24:15] my [24:15] notarial [24:15] register [24:16] as [24:17] document [24:17] number [24:18] 267 [24:19] page [24:19] number [24:19] 50 [24:20] book [24:21] number [24:21] 9 [24:22] series [24:22] of [24:22] 2025 [24:23] we [24:25] direct [24:25] the [24:25] committee [24:25] secretary [24:26] to [24:26] receive [24:27] the [24:27] document [24:28] certification [24:28] from [24:29] the [24:29] regional [24:29] trial [24:30] court [24:30] clerk [24:31] of [24:31] court [24:31] to [24:32] form [24:32] part [24:32] of [24:33] the [24:33] records [24:33] of [24:33] this [24:34] proceeding [24:34] thank [24:35] you [24:35] attorney [24:35] Pantanal [24:36] thank [24:37] you [24:37] madam [24:37] chair [24:38] next [24:38] is [24:39] miss [24:40] pareja [24:41] director [24:42] two [24:43] of [24:43] legislative [24:44] archives [24:44] and [24:45] museum [24:45] management [24:45] service [24:46] of [24:46] the [24:46] house [24:46] of [24:47] representatives [24:47] were [24:48] you [24:48] able [24:49] to [24:49] bring [24:49] the [24:50] documents [24:50] described [24:51] in the [24:51] subpoena [24:52] issued [24:52] by this [24:53] committee [24:53] madam [24:54] chair [24:55] we [24:55] can [24:55] confirm [24:56] that [24:56] we [24:56] have [24:57] in [24:57] our [24:57] possession [24:58] the [24:58] digital [24:58] and [24:59] physical [24:59] records [25:00] of [25:00] documents [25:02] transmitted [25:03] by [25:03] the [25:03] committee [25:04] secretariat [25:05] particularly [25:06] the [25:06] committee [25:06] on good [25:07] government [25:07] and public [25:08] accountability [25:09] on the [25:09] following [25:10] dates [25:10] september [25:11] 18 and [25:12] 25 [25:13] october [25:14] 17 [25:15] november [25:16] 5 [25:17] 11 [25:17] 20 [25:18] and [25:19] 25 [25:19] december [25:20] 9 [25:21] all [25:22] of [25:22] 2024 [25:23] relating [25:24] to [25:24] the [25:24] confidential [25:24] funds [25:25] of [25:25] the [25:25] office [25:25] of [25:26] the [25:26] vice [25:26] president [25:26] and [25:27] the [25:27] department [25:27] of [25:28] education [25:28] thank you [25:29] with [25:30] that [25:30] we [25:30] likewise [25:31] direct [25:31] the [25:32] committee [25:32] secretary [25:33] to [25:34] receive [25:34] both [25:35] the [25:35] digital [25:36] and [25:36] the [25:36] documentary [25:37] records [25:38] of [25:39] the [25:39] hearings [25:40] mentioned [25:40] of [25:41] the [25:42] committee [25:42] on good [25:43] government [25:43] in [25:43] 19 [25:44] congress [25:44] with [25:45] regards [25:45] to [25:46] the [25:46] confidential [25:47] fund [25:47] of [25:47] both [25:48] the [25:48] department [25:49] of [25:49] education [25:49] and [25:50] the [25:50] office [25:51] of [25:51] the [25:51] vice [25:51] president [25:52] this [25:53] will [25:53] form [25:53] part [25:54] of [25:54] the [25:54] record [25:55] of [25:55] the [25:55] proceeding [25:55] of [25:56] this [25:56] impeachment [25:57] case [25:57] next [25:59] is [26:00] attorney [26:01] Melvin [26:02] Matibag [26:03] our [26:03] NBI [26:04] director [26:05] may [26:05] we [26:05] know [26:06] if [26:07] you [26:08] were [26:08] able [26:08] to [26:09] bring [26:09] the [26:09] document [26:10] required [26:10] in [26:11] the [26:11] subpoena [26:11] good [26:12] morning [26:12] Madam [26:13] Chair [26:13] the [26:14] documents [26:15] requested [26:15] under [26:16] the [26:16] subpoena [26:16] was [26:17] submitted [26:17] June [26:18] 2 [26:18] 2025 [26:19] to [26:19] the [26:19] office [26:20] of [26:20] the [26:20] minority [26:20] floor [26:21] leader [26:21] upon [26:22] his [26:22] request [26:22] but [26:24] also [26:24] we [26:24] are [26:24] bringing [26:24] the [26:25] picture [26:26] document [26:27] also [26:27] that [26:28] regards [26:28] to [26:28] the [26:28] question [26:29] documents [26:29] and [26:30] with [26:30] me [26:30] also [26:31] are [26:31] the [26:31] documents [26:32] in [26:32] relation [26:32] to [26:33] the [26:33] threat [26:34] issue [26:35] mentioned [26:36] by [26:36] Vice [26:38] President [26:38] Sardar [26:38] Duterte [26:39] to [26:39] Honorable [26:40] President [26:41] Bob [26:41] Marcos [26:42] Speaker [26:43] Martin [26:43] Romualdez [26:44] the [26:44] First Lady [26:45] and [26:45] the [26:46] three [26:50] of [26:50] them [26:50] so [26:50] we [26:51] have [26:51] all [26:51] the [26:51] documents [26:51] here [26:52] those [26:52] are [26:52] all [26:52] certified [26:53] original [26:54] Madam [26:55] Chair [26:55] Thank you [26:56] Comsec [26:57] kindly [26:58] receive [26:58] all [26:59] the [26:59] documents [27:00] being [27:01] submitted [27:01] by the [27:02] NBI [27:02] director [27:03] to form [27:03] part [27:04] of the [27:04] records [27:04] of our [27:05] impeachment [27:05] proceeding [27:06] next [27:07] is [27:08] Mr [27:10] Miss [27:10] Claire [27:11] Mapa [27:12] Miss [27:14] Claire [27:14] Mapa [27:15] under [27:16] secretary [27:16] of the [27:17] Philippine [27:17] Statistics [27:17] Authority [27:18] may [27:19] we [27:19] know [27:19] the [27:20] documents [27:20] that [27:20] you're [27:21] bringing [27:21] to [27:21] this [27:21] committee [27:22] in [27:22] compliance [27:23] to [27:23] the [27:24] subpoena [27:24] Madam [27:25] Chair [27:25] in [27:25] compliance [27:26] to [27:26] the [27:26] subpoena [27:27] we [27:27] submitted [27:28] today [27:28] the [27:28] original [27:29] copies [27:30] of [27:30] the [27:30] certifications [27:31] pertaining [27:32] to the [27:32] PSA [27:33] verification [27:33] made [27:34] on [27:34] the [27:35] certificate [27:35] of [27:36] life [27:36] birth [27:36] certificate [27:36] of [27:37] marriage [27:37] and [27:38] certificate [27:38] of [27:38] death [27:39] on [27:39] the [27:39] several [27:40] names [27:41] of [27:41] the [27:41] least [27:42] submitted [27:42] under [27:44] investigation [27:45] dated [27:46] certification [27:47] December [27:48] 8, [27:49] 2024 [27:49] and [27:50] a [27:51] certification [27:51] dated [27:52] December [27:52] 11, [27:53] 2024 [27:53] including [27:54] the [27:54] manifestation [27:56] signed [27:56] by [27:56] under [27:57] secretary [27:58] Claire [27:58] Dennis [27:59] S. [27:59] Mapa [27:59] okay [28:00] so [28:01] COMSEC [28:01] kindly [28:02] received [28:02] the [28:02] documents [28:03] being [28:04] submitted [28:04] by [28:05] PSA [28:06] to [28:06] form [28:07] part [28:07] of [28:07] the [28:07] records [28:08] of [28:08] our [28:08] today's [28:09] proceeding [28:09] last [28:11] for [28:11] Sabina [28:12] Duces [28:13] Tecum [28:14] is [28:15] attorney [28:15] Gloria [28:16] A. [28:16] Camora [28:17] from [28:18] ICVAO [28:19] of [28:20] the [28:20] commission [28:21] on [28:21] audit [28:22] may [28:23] we [28:23] know [28:23] the [28:23] documents [28:24] that [28:24] you [28:24] are [28:25] submitting [28:25] attorney [28:26] Camora [28:27] Madam [28:28] Chair [28:29] I have [28:30] with me [28:31] the [28:31] documents [28:32] that [28:32] were [28:32] subject [28:32] of [28:33] the [28:33] submit [28:34] sub [28:34] that [28:37] pertains [28:38] to [28:38] kindly [28:39] describe [28:39] Madam [28:42] Chair [28:42] these [28:44] are [28:44] all [28:44] the [28:45] submissions [28:45] by [28:45] the [28:45] OVP [28:46] to [28:46] COA [28:46] in [28:47] relation [28:47] to [28:47] the [28:47] liquidation [28:48] of [28:48] confidential [28:49] funds [28:50] for [28:51] the [28:51] fourth [28:51] quarter [28:51] of [28:51] 2022 [28:52] first [28:53] quarter [28:53] of [28:54] 2023 [28:54] second [28:55] quarter [28:56] of [28:56] 2023 [28:57] third [28:58] quarter [28:59] of [28:59] 2023 [29:00] also [29:02] the [29:03] submissions [29:03] of [29:03] the [29:04] DEP [29:04] ED [29:04] to [29:05] COA [29:05] in [29:05] relation [29:06] to [29:07] the [29:07] liquidation [29:07] of [29:07] confidential [29:08] funds [29:08] for [29:09] the [29:09] first [29:09] second [29:10] and [29:10] third [29:10] quarters [29:11] of [29:11] 2023 [29:12] and [29:14] also [29:15] issue [29:17] one [29:17] says [29:17] of [29:17] the [29:17] COA [29:18] in [29:18] relation [29:18] to [29:19] the [29:19] liquidation [29:20] provided [29:20] by [29:21] the [29:21] OVP [29:21] and [29:21] the [29:22] Depth [29:22] Ed [29:22] the [29:23] responses [29:23] of [29:23] the [29:24] OVP [29:24] and [29:24] the [29:25] Depth [29:25] Ed [29:25] there [29:25] too [29:25] as [29:26] well [29:26] as [29:26] the [29:27] resolutions [29:28] issued [29:28] by [29:28] the [29:29] COA [29:29] All [29:30] right [29:30] so [29:32] likewise [29:33] directed [29:33] to [29:34] receive [29:34] the [29:34] documents [29:35] from [29:35] attorney [29:37] Camora [29:37] to [29:38] form [29:38] part [29:38] of [29:38] the [29:39] records [29:39] of [29:39] our [29:39] today's [29:40] proceeding [29:40] in [29:42] pursuit [29:43] of [29:43] an [29:43] organized [29:44] presentation [29:45] of [29:46] evidence [29:47] we [29:47] will [29:47] be [29:48] following [29:48] this [29:49] order [29:50] first [29:51] will [29:52] be [29:52] attorney [29:53] Sincha [29:53] Pantonal [29:54] this [29:55] is [29:55] for [29:55] the [29:56] guidance [29:56] also [29:56] of [29:56] the [29:57] justice [29:57] members [29:58] second [29:59] is [30:01] Mr. [30:01] Ramil [30:02] Madriaga [30:03] third [30:04] is [30:05] Miss [30:05] Marivic [30:06] M [30:06] Pareja [30:07] fourth [30:08] is [30:08] attorney [30:09] Melvin [30:09] Matibag [30:10] fifth [30:11] is [30:11] Miss [30:12] Claire [30:12] Dennis [30:13] Mapa [30:13] sixth [30:14] is [30:15] attorney [30:15] Gloria [30:16] A [30:16] Camora [30:16] seventh [30:17] is [30:18] attorney [30:18] Michael [30:19] Wesley [30:20] Tipoa [30:20] eighth [30:22] is [30:22] the [30:22] Ombudsman [30:23] ninth [30:25] is [30:26] attorney [30:28] Francis [30:28] Edrelin [30:29] Lim [30:29] of the [30:30] Securities [30:31] and Exchange [30:31] Commission [30:32] and [30:33] tenth [30:34] is [30:34] attorney [30:35] Charlito [30:36] Martin [30:37] R [30:37] Mendoza [30:38] commissioner [30:39] of [30:39] the [30:40] Bureau [30:40] of [30:40] Internal [30:40] Revenue [30:41] in order [30:42] not to [30:43] waste [30:43] time [30:43] of [30:44] people [30:44] working [30:45] in the [30:45] government [30:45] let me [30:46] advance [30:46] that the [30:47] capability [30:48] of this [30:49] committee [30:49] to hear [30:50] the [30:50] witnesses [30:50] will be [30:51] until [30:52] the [30:53] time [30:53] of [30:53] attorney [30:54] Michael [30:54] Poa [30:55] only [30:55] so [30:56] should [30:57] the rest [30:58] of the [30:58] resource [30:58] persons [30:59] wish [30:59] to be [31:00] excused [31:01] in [31:01] today's [31:01] hearing [31:01] particularly [31:02] the [31:03] Ombudsman [31:04] the [31:05] SEC [31:05] and [31:06] the [31:06] BIR [31:07] the [31:07] committee [31:08] will [31:08] favorably [31:09] consider [31:09] with [31:10] that [31:11] we're [31:11] requesting [31:12] the [31:12] seven [31:13] first [31:13] witnesses [31:14] to [31:14] stay [31:14] for [31:16] the [31:16] clarificatory [31:17] questions [31:18] which will [31:18] be raised [31:19] as we [31:19] go along [31:20] but [31:21] before [31:21] we [31:21] proceed [31:22] to [31:22] that [31:22] we [31:23] would [31:24] like [31:24] to [31:24] recognize [31:25] the [31:26] Honorable [31:26] Chelle [31:27] Chocno [31:27] to [31:28] manifest [31:29] on [31:29] the [31:29] nature [31:30] of [31:31] the [31:31] proceeding [31:31] which [31:32] we [31:33] are [31:33] holding [31:33] today [31:34] thank [31:35] you [31:35] thank [31:38] you [31:38] madam [31:38] chair [31:39] mga [31:39] naumaga [31:40] po [31:40] sa [31:40] atin [31:40] lahat [31:41] lalong [31:41] lalo [31:41] na [31:41] sa [31:41] mga [31:42] nanonood [31:42] at [31:43] nakikinig [31:43] ang [31:44] tama [31:45] po [31:45] si [31:45] chair [31:46] Luis [31:46] Tro [31:46] kanina [31:47] this [31:49] is [31:49] not [31:49] a [31:49] trial [31:49] we [31:50] are [31:50] not [31:50] here [31:51] as [31:51] judges [31:52] wala [31:53] halos [31:53] pinagkaiba [31:54] ang [31:54] gagawin [31:55] natin [31:55] bilang [31:56] mga [31:56] miyembro [31:56] ng [31:56] committee [31:57] sa [31:58] ginagawa [31:58] ng [31:59] isang [31:59] prosecutor [32:00] na [32:00] nagsasagawa [32:01] ng [32:01] preliminary [32:02] investigation [32:03] I am [32:04] speaking [32:05] not as [32:06] an [32:06] endorser [32:06] I am [32:06] not [32:07] endorsing [32:07] any [32:07] of [32:08] the [32:08] impeachment [32:08] complaints [32:09] I am [32:10] speaking [32:10] simply [32:10] as a [32:11] member [32:11] of [32:11] the [32:11] committee [32:12] just like [32:22] in a [32:22] preliminary [32:23] investigation [32:23] we are [32:24] here [32:24] to [32:25] inquire [32:26] into [32:26] the [32:26] truth [32:27] and [32:28] just [32:28] like [32:28] a [32:29] prosecutor [32:29] has [32:30] the [32:30] power [32:30] to [32:30] issue [32:31] a [32:31] sub [32:31] pina [32:32] in [32:32] order [32:33] to [32:33] determine [32:33] the [32:34] truth [32:34] yun [32:34] din [32:35] po [32:35] ang [32:36] ginagawa [32:36] ng [32:36] ating [32:37] committee [32:37] on [32:38] justice [32:38] dalawa [32:40] po [32:40] ang [32:40] layunin [32:41] natin [32:41] at [32:42] sana [32:42] ito [32:43] maging [32:43] klaro [32:44] to [32:44] everyone [32:45] including [32:45] the [32:46] respondent [32:46] unang [32:48] una [32:48] ay [32:48] kailangan [32:49] maprotektahan [32:50] natin [32:50] ang mga [32:51] opisyal [32:51] sa mga [32:52] reklamang [32:53] walang [32:53] basehan [32:54] and [32:54] I'm [32:54] sure [32:55] every [32:55] member [32:55] of [32:55] the [32:56] committee [32:56] will [32:56] not [32:56] hesitate [32:57] if [32:58] we [32:58] see [32:59] that [32:59] there [32:59] is [32:59] no [33:00] evidence [33:00] to [33:00] support [33:01] a [33:01] complaint [33:02] at [33:02] pangalawa [33:03] siguraduhin [33:04] na [33:04] hindi [33:05] maaksaya [33:05] ang [33:06] oras [33:06] ng [33:06] senado [33:07] kung [33:08] uupuman [33:08] sila [33:09] bilang [33:09] impeachment [33:10] court [33:11] we are [33:12] here [33:12] as [33:13] to [33:14] fulfill [33:14] our [33:15] mandate [33:15] under [33:16] the [33:16] constitution [33:16] to [33:17] initiate [33:18] a [33:18] complaint [33:19] if [33:19] there [33:20] is [33:20] sufficient [33:20] basis [33:21] or [33:21] evidence [33:22] kaya [33:22] kailangan [33:23] natin [33:24] makita [33:24] ngayon [33:24] sa mga [33:25] darating [33:25] na [33:26] mga [33:26] hearing [33:26] kung [33:27] may [33:28] ebidensya [33:28] at [33:29] kung [33:29] talagang [33:30] kapanipaniwala [33:31] po [33:31] iyan [33:32] thank you [33:32] madam chair [33:33] thank [33:34] thank you [33:35] honorable [33:35] jokno [33:36] so [33:37] at [33:39] this [33:40] juncture [33:40] we [33:41] officially [33:41] start [33:42] the [33:42] presentation [33:43] of [33:43] our [33:44] evidence [33:45] in [33:46] the [33:46] order [33:46] which [33:47] the [33:48] chair [33:48] recently [33:49] announced [33:50] the [33:51] floor [33:51] is [33:52] now [33:52] open [33:53] for [33:54] clarificatory [33:55] questions [33:55] of the [33:56] justice [33:56] members [33:57] madam chair [34:00] if I [34:01] may be [34:01] recognized [34:02] the [34:02] honorable [34:03] mika [34:03] gonzalez [34:04] is [34:05] recognized [34:05] thank [34:08] you [34:08] madam [34:08] chair [34:08] madam chair [34:10] maaari [34:10] ko po [34:11] bang [34:11] magpigay [34:14] ng ilang [34:15] katanungan [34:16] kay attorney [34:16] cindia [34:18] pantonal [34:19] attorney [34:21] pantonal [34:22] yes [34:24] please address [34:25] the question [34:26] to the [34:26] chair [34:26] and please [34:27] be advised [34:28] to limit [34:29] your questions [34:30] to [34:30] clarificatory [34:31] questions [34:32] remember [34:33] this [34:34] is not [34:35] a trial [34:36] this is [34:37] merely [34:37] a [34:38] clarificatory [34:38] hearing [34:39] for the [34:39] purpose [34:40] of [34:40] determining [34:41] the [34:41] existence [34:42] of [34:42] probable [34:43] cause [34:43] honorable [34:44] gonzalez [34:45] you may [34:45] proceed [34:46] thank [34:46] you [34:46] madam [34:47] chair [34:47] attorney [34:50] pantonal [34:50] and [34:52] dito [34:52] po [34:52] kayo [34:53] kaugnay [34:54] sa affidavit [34:55] o sinumpaang [34:56] salaysay [34:57] ni [34:58] mr. [34:59] ramil [34:59] madriaga [35:00] dala [35:01] nyo [35:02] po ba [35:02] ang [35:02] orihinal [35:03] o [35:04] certified [35:04] true [35:05] copy [35:05] ng [35:06] sinumpaang [35:07] salaysay [35:07] ni [35:08] mr. [35:08] ramil [35:09] madriaga [35:10] dala [35:11] ko [35:11] po [35:11] ang [35:12] certified [35:12] true [35:12] copy [35:13] atang [35:13] certification [35:14] from [35:15] the [35:15] office [35:15] of [35:15] the [35:15] clerk [35:16] of [35:16] court [35:16] the [35:17] affidavit [35:18] of [35:19] pdl [35:20] matriaga [35:21] was [35:21] registered [35:22] in [35:22] my [35:22] notarial [35:23] book [35:24] so [35:26] those [35:27] pertains [35:27] to [35:28] the [35:28] documents [35:28] that [35:29] you [35:29] submitted [35:29] already [35:30] attorney [35:31] pantonal [35:31] both [35:32] the [35:33] original [35:33] affidavit [35:34] and [35:34] the [35:34] certification [35:35] of the [35:36] regional [35:36] trial [35:36] court [35:37] you may [35:38] continue [35:38] honorable [35:39] gonzalez [35:40] thank you [35:40] thank you [35:40] madam [35:41] chair [35:41] attorney [35:42] pantonal [35:43] kino [35:44] confirm [35:44] mo [35:45] rin [35:45] po [35:45] ba [35:45] na [35:46] ang [35:46] original [35:47] o [35:48] certified [35:48] true [35:48] copy [35:49] ng [35:50] affidavit [35:50] o [35:51] sinumpang [35:51] salaysay [35:52] ni [35:53] mr. [35:53] ramil [35:53] madriaga [35:54] ay [35:55] nanotario [35:56] alinsunod [35:57] sa [35:58] section [35:58] 2 [35:59] of [35:59] am [36:00] number [36:00] 02-8 [36:02] dash [36:02] 13 [36:03] sc [36:04] or [36:05] 2004 [36:06] rules [36:07] on [36:07] notarial [36:07] practice [36:08] kung saan [36:09] si mr. [36:10] madriaga [36:11] ay humarap [36:12] sa iyo [36:12] at [36:13] pumirma [36:13] sa kanyang [36:14] sinumpang [36:15] salaysay [36:16] yes [36:17] he [36:18] voluntarily [36:19] sworn [36:20] subscribed [36:20] and sworn [36:21] to before [36:22] me [36:22] his [36:23] five page [36:24] affidavit [36:25] in [36:26] on [36:26] november [36:27] 29 [36:27] 2025 [36:28] at [36:29] BJMP [36:31] camp [36:32] bagon [36:32] di [36:32] watagik [36:33] city [36:33] thank you [36:35] madam chair [36:36] that will be [36:37] all [36:37] are there [36:39] any other [36:39] clarificatory [36:40] questions [36:41] for [36:41] attorney [36:41] pantonal [36:42] madam chair [36:42] point of [36:43] order [36:43] the [36:44] honorable [36:45] advin [36:45] kula [36:46] madam chair [36:47] may we [36:48] request [36:48] that all [36:49] members [36:50] and [36:50] ex-official [36:50] members [36:51] of the [36:51] committee [36:52] on [36:52] justice [36:53] be [36:53] furnished [36:54] with [36:54] the [36:54] copies [36:54] of [36:55] the [36:55] submissions [36:55] of [36:56] our [36:57] witnesses [36:57] we are [36:59] directing [36:59] the [36:59] committee [37:00] secretary [37:00] to [37:00] furnish [37:01] copy [37:01] of [37:02] the [37:02] documents [37:02] to [37:02] all [37:03] the [37:03] justice [37:04] members [37:04] including [37:05] the [37:05] ex-official [37:06] members [37:07] and [37:07] including [37:08] as well [37:09] respondent [37:10] vice [37:10] president [37:11] sarah [37:12] duterte [37:12] that's [37:14] so [37:14] ordered [37:14] the [37:17] honorable [37:17] domogan [37:18] thank you [37:19] madam chair [37:20] attorney [37:21] pantonal [37:23] it's a [37:25] mandatory [37:25] duty [37:26] of a [37:27] notary public [37:28] that before [37:30] you notarize [37:31] a document [37:31] you have to [37:33] satisfy yourself [37:34] that the [37:35] document [37:36] has indeed [37:37] executed [37:38] by [37:39] the [37:39] was [37:41] this [37:41] complied [37:42] with [37:42] yes [37:44] your [37:44] honor [37:45] now [37:45] at [37:46] the [37:46] time [37:47] you [37:48] notarize [37:49] the [37:49] document [37:50] did [37:51] you [37:51] observe [37:51] any [37:52] untoward [37:53] with all [37:54] due respect [37:54] honorable [37:55] domogan [37:55] i believe [37:57] i believe [37:57] that your [37:58] question [37:58] is already [37:59] a probing [38:00] question [38:00] please be [38:02] reminded [38:02] to confine [38:04] your [38:04] questions [38:05] to [38:05] clarificatory [38:06] only [38:07] yes [38:08] your [38:08] honor [38:08] because [38:09] there's [38:10] an [38:10] acquisition [38:10] that [38:11] the [38:12] appayant [38:12] is not [38:13] actually [38:14] the one [38:14] who [38:15] supplied [38:15] that's [38:16] why [38:16] it's [38:17] an [38:18] opportunity [38:18] for the [38:19] notary [38:20] public [38:20] being [38:20] the one [38:21] to [38:21] administer [38:22] the [38:22] oath [38:22] to [38:23] testify [38:23] that [38:24] there [38:24] was [38:24] no [38:24] sign [38:25] nonetheless [38:26] honorable [38:27] domogan [38:27] our [38:28] resource [38:29] person [38:29] they are [38:31] not [38:31] witness [38:31] they are [38:32] resource [38:32] persons [38:33] yes [38:33] stated [38:34] already [38:35] that [38:35] the [38:36] document [38:36] was [38:36] executed [38:37] in her [38:38] presence [38:39] yes [38:40] your [38:40] honor [38:40] and [38:41] what [38:42] i'm [38:42] just [38:42] asking [38:42] the [38:43] witness [38:44] your [38:44] honor [38:44] is [38:44] there [38:46] was [38:46] no [38:46] sign [38:48] of [38:48] any [38:49] untoward [38:51] attitude [38:51] of [38:51] the [38:52] appayant [38:52] when [38:52] she [38:53] confronted [38:54] i lament [38:55] but [38:55] i have [38:56] to [38:56] prevent [38:57] that [38:57] kind [38:58] of [38:58] question [38:58] honorable [38:59] domogan [39:00] because [39:00] that [39:01] is [39:01] a [39:01] probing [39:01] question [39:02] which [39:03] must [39:03] be [39:03] raised [39:03] only [39:04] during [39:04] the [39:05] stage [39:05] of [39:05] the [39:05] trial [39:05] thank [39:08] you [39:08] are [39:10] there [39:10] any [39:10] other [39:10] members [39:11] who [39:11] wish [39:11] to [39:11] raise [39:11] clarificatory [39:12] questions [39:13] to [39:13] attorney [39:13] pantonal [39:14] none [39:16] the [39:18] honorable [39:19] Keith [39:19] Flores [39:19] but [39:21] I'm [39:21] sure [39:21] since [39:21] there's [39:22] no [39:22] other [39:22] member [39:23] who [39:23] wishes [39:23] to [39:23] propound [39:24] questions [39:24] attorney [39:25] pantonal [39:25] may [39:25] move [39:25] there is [39:31] a [39:31] motion [39:31] to [39:31] excuse [39:32] notary [39:33] public [39:33] attorney [39:34] pantonal [39:34] do I [39:35] hear [39:35] a second [39:35] is there [39:37] any [39:37] objection [39:38] the [39:40] honorable [39:40] Rufus [39:41] Rodriguez [39:41] thank [39:42] you [39:42] before [39:43] she [39:43] leaves [39:43] let [39:44] us [39:44] now [39:44] mark [39:45] exhibit [39:45] as [39:46] exhibit [39:46] a [39:46] complaint [39:47] so that [39:48] we can [39:48] refer to [39:49] the [39:49] complainant [39:50] to [39:50] the [39:51] affidavit [39:52] in the [39:52] course [39:53] of our [39:53] proceeding [39:53] with [39:54] with [39:54] with [39:54] all [39:54] due [39:54] respect [39:55] honorable [39:55] Rodriguez [39:56] we [39:57] are [39:58] doing [39:58] away [39:59] with [39:59] the [39:59] marking [39:59] of [40:00] the [40:00] documents [40:01] as [40:02] the [40:02] same [40:02] should [40:03] happen [40:03] as [40:04] well [40:04] only [40:05] during [40:06] the [40:06] trial [40:06] so [40:07] it [40:09] is [40:09] enough [40:09] that [40:10] the [40:11] committee [40:11] received [40:12] all [40:13] the [40:13] documents [40:13] in [40:14] compliance [40:15] with [40:15] the [40:15] sub [40:15] to [40:16] form [40:16] part [40:17] of [40:17] the [40:17] records [40:17] of [40:17] our [40:18] proceeding [40:18] but [40:19] the [40:19] marking [40:19] should [40:20] happen [40:21] during [40:21] the [40:22] trial [40:22] with [40:22] all [40:22] due [40:23] respect [40:23] honorable [40:23] Rodriguez [40:24] thank [40:27] you [40:27] I [40:27] always [40:28] agree [40:28] with [40:28] the [40:28] chamber [40:28] so [40:29] thank [40:29] you [40:29] with [40:31] that [40:31] let [40:31] us [40:31] rule [40:32] on [40:32] the [40:32] motion [40:32] if [40:33] there [40:33] is [40:33] no [40:33] objection [40:34] the [40:34] motion [40:34] is [40:35] granted [40:35] attorney [40:36] pantanales [40:37] excused [40:38] from [40:38] this [40:38] proceeding [40:39] maraming [40:39] salamat [40:40] po [40:40] thank [40:40] you [40:40] madam [40:40] chair [40:41] the [40:45] honorable [40:46] terry [40:46] ridon [40:46] I [40:49] would [40:49] like [40:50] to [40:50] refer [40:50] my [40:50] clarifactory [40:52] questions [40:53] to [40:54] Mr. [40:56] Ramil [40:56] Madriaga [40:57] may [40:58] we [40:58] know [40:58] from [40:59] the [40:59] committee [40:59] secretary [41:00] if [41:00] Ramil [41:00] Madriaga [41:01] is already [41:01] around [41:02] come [41:04] sec [41:04] yes [41:05] your [41:05] honor [41:05] Mr. [41:06] Madriaga [41:07] is within [41:08] the premises [41:08] of the [41:09] people [41:09] he is [41:10] within [41:10] the premises [41:11] okay [41:13] so [41:13] to give [41:16] time to [41:17] the [41:17] sergeant [41:18] at arms [41:18] to [41:19] bring [41:20] Ramil [41:20] Madriaga [41:21] inside [41:22] the [41:23] people [41:23] center [41:24] before [41:24] this [41:25] committee [41:25] we are [41:26] temporarily [41:26] suspending [41:27] the [41:27] hearing [41:28] may [43:21] we [43:21] inquire [43:21] from [43:22] the [43:22] BJMP [43:23] the [43:23] official [43:24] custodian [43:25] if [43:26] it [43:26] is [43:26] necessary [43:27] that [43:27] Ramil [43:28] Madriaga [43:29] while [43:30] inside [43:30] this [43:31] proceeding [43:31] is [43:32] still [43:32] in [43:32] handcuff [43:33] may [43:34] we [43:34] know [43:34] the [43:35] protocol [43:35] BJMP [43:41] please [43:41] good [43:50] morning [43:51] your [43:51] honor [43:51] good [43:52] morning [43:52] if [43:53] your [43:56] rule [43:56] allows [43:56] please [43:57] do [43:57] so [43:57] yes [43:59] yes [44:00] your [44:00] honor [44:00] thank [44:01] you [44:01] may [45:21] we [45:21] direct [45:22] the [45:22] BJMP [45:24] maybe [45:55] he [45:55] just [45:55] he [45:56] should [45:56] just [45:57] sit [45:57] excuse [45:57] me [45:58] in [45:59] between [45:59] PSA [46:00] and [46:01] attorney [46:01] Camora [46:02] please [46:04] bear [46:04] with [46:05] us [46:05] Mr. [46:06] Madriaga [46:07] in [46:07] between [46:08] PSA [46:08] and [46:09] attorney [46:10] Camora [46:10] so [46:11] he [46:12] will [46:12] be [46:12] seated [46:12] along [46:12] with [46:13] the [46:13] other [46:13] resource [46:13] persons [46:14] let [46:17] us [46:18] leave [46:18] the [46:18] chair [46:19] for [46:19] the [46:19] vice [46:19] president [46:20] vacant [46:20] because [46:21] we [46:21] are [46:21] extending [46:22] the [46:23] opportunity [46:24] to [46:24] participate [46:24] to [46:25] her [46:25] so [46:27] long [46:28] as [46:28] we [46:28] continue [46:29] this [46:29] proceeding [46:29] in [46:34] between [46:35] PSA [46:35] and [46:37] COA [46:37] may [47:10] we [47:10] direct [47:11] the [47:11] comsec [47:11] to [47:11] administer [47:12] the [47:12] oath [47:13] to [47:13] Mr. [47:13] Ramil [47:14] Madriaga [47:14] Mr. [47:21] Madriaga [47:22] kindly [47:22] stand up [47:23] can [47:25] you [47:25] please [47:26] raise [47:26] your [47:26] right [47:27] hand [47:27] you [47:28] swear [47:28] to [47:29] tell [47:29] the [47:29] truth [47:29] the [47:29] whole [47:30] truth [47:30] and [47:30] nothing [47:30] but [47:31] the [47:31] truth [47:31] before [47:31] this [47:32] committee [47:32] thank [47:35] you [47:35] with [47:49] all [47:49] due [47:49] respect [47:50] to [47:50] the [47:50] lawyer [47:50] of [47:51] attorney [47:51] of [47:52] Ramil [47:53] Madriaga [47:54] may we [47:56] request that [47:56] you just [47:57] occupy the [47:57] seat at [47:58] the back [47:59] of [48:00] Ramil [48:00] Madriaga [48:01] this [48:02] is [48:03] to [48:03] be [48:03] consistent [48:03] with [48:04] our [48:04] rule [48:05] that [48:06] the [48:06] participation [48:07] of [48:07] lawyer [48:07] is [48:08] limited [48:08] only [48:09] to [48:09] giving [48:09] advice [48:10] to [48:11] the [48:11] resource [48:12] persons [48:12] or [48:13] parties [48:13] in [48:13] this [48:14] impeachment [48:14] complaint [48:15] please [48:21] provide [48:22] a [48:22] chair [48:22] at [48:22] the [48:22] back [48:23] of [48:23] Madriaga [48:23] for [48:24] attorney [48:24] Palad [48:24] the [48:30] oath [48:30] has [48:31] been [48:31] administered [48:31] to [48:32] Ramil [48:33] Madriaga [48:33] now [48:35] we [48:35] recognize [48:36] the [48:36] honorable [48:37] Terry [48:37] Ridon [48:38] to [48:38] continue [48:38] with [48:39] his [48:39] Madam [48:46] Chair [48:47] the [48:48] honorable [48:48] dilemma [48:49] is [48:49] recognized [48:50] before [48:51] the [48:51] questioning [48:52] of [48:53] the [48:53] honorable [48:54] Terry [48:54] Ridon [48:54] this [48:55] representation [48:56] wishes [48:56] to [48:57] make [48:57] a [48:57] disclosure [48:58] you [48:59] may [48:59] proceed [48:59] honorable [49:00] dilemma [49:00] thank [49:01] you [49:01] Madam [49:01] Chair [49:02] I [49:02] wish [49:03] to [49:03] inform [49:03] this [49:04] committee [49:05] that [49:06] sometime [49:07] in [49:07] November [49:08] 2025 [49:09] I [49:10] received [49:11] a letter [49:12] dated [49:12] November [49:13] 17 [49:14] 2025 [49:15] a [49:15] handwritten [49:16] letter [49:16] from [49:17] the [49:18] resource [49:18] person [49:19] Ramil [49:20] Madriaga [49:21] and [49:22] November [49:23] 17 [49:24] 2025 [49:25] handwritten [49:26] letter [49:26] addressed [49:27] to me [49:28] and [49:28] sent [49:29] by [49:30] Ramil [49:31] Madriaga [49:32] this [49:32] was [49:33] coursed [49:33] through [49:33] his [49:36] counsel [49:36] attorney [49:38] Raymond [49:38] Raimundo [49:40] Pollack [49:40] now [49:41] when I [49:43] received [49:43] this [49:43] because [49:44] the [49:44] letter [49:45] here [49:46] says [49:46] about [49:47] his [49:47] being [49:47] unjustly [49:48] accused [49:49] and [49:50] detained [49:50] and [49:52] said [49:52] that [49:53] it [49:53] is [49:53] because [49:54] he [49:55] helped [49:55] a group [49:56] of [49:56] farmers [49:57] in [49:58] Mariveles [50:00] may tinulungan [50:01] po siyang [50:01] grupo [50:02] na [50:03] mga [50:03] farmers [50:03] na [50:04] Mariveles [50:04] na mga [50:05] biktima [50:05] ng land [50:06] grabbing [50:06] at [50:07] tinuturo [50:08] po [50:09] niya [50:09] si [50:10] former [50:11] spokesperson [50:11] Harry [50:12] Roque [50:13] na [50:13] nasa [50:13] likod [50:14] nito [50:14] at [50:15] sabi [50:15] niya [50:16] kahit [50:16] yung [50:17] una [50:17] niyang [50:17] kaso [50:18] ng [50:18] kidnapping [50:19] kasi [50:19] dati [50:20] na po [50:20] siyang [50:20] kinasuhan [50:21] in [50:22] 1997 [50:23] nang [50:24] kidnapping [50:24] ay [50:26] na [50:26] convict [50:26] siya [50:26] sa [50:26] trial [50:27] court [50:27] pero [50:28] na [50:28] acquit [50:29] siya [50:29] sa [50:29] supreme [50:29] court [50:30] on [50:30] appeal [50:31] or [50:31] on [50:32] review [50:32] so [50:33] nagpahumihingi po siya [50:34] ng tulong [50:35] sa akin [50:35] dito sa [50:37] sulat [50:38] na ito [50:38] which is [50:39] hand [50:39] written [50:40] sinabi [50:41] rin po [50:42] sa akin [50:42] ni [50:42] attorney [50:42] palad [50:43] na [50:43] nung [50:44] time [50:44] na yun [50:44] I think [50:45] it was [50:45] later [50:46] part [50:46] of [50:46] November [50:47] or [50:47] a few [50:47] days [50:47] after [50:48] November [50:48] 17 [50:49] I [50:49] don't [50:49] exactly [50:50] remember [50:51] the [50:51] time [50:51] or [50:52] the [50:52] exact [50:53] day [50:54] ay [50:55] meron [50:55] daw [50:56] pong [50:56] gagawin [50:56] o [50:57] ginagawa [50:57] na [50:58] sword [50:58] affidavit [50:59] si [50:59] Mr. [50:59] Madriaga [51:00] tungkol [51:01] sa [51:01] mga [51:01] nalalaman [51:02] niya [51:02] tungkol [51:03] kay [51:03] VP [51:04] Sara [51:04] and [51:05] also [51:05] sa [51:05] pamilya [51:06] ng [51:07] Duterte [51:07] of [51:08] course [51:08] I [51:10] So [51:24] true [51:24] enough [51:25] I [51:27] received [51:27] this [51:27] an [51:28] affidavit [51:28] a [51:29] copy [51:29] of [51:30] the [51:30] affidavit [51:31] and [51:32] I [51:32] did [51:32] realize [51:32] that [51:33] this [51:33] affidavit [51:33] which [51:34] I [51:34] received [51:34] then [51:35] is [51:35] also [51:35] an [51:36] original [51:36] copy [51:37] I [51:37] just [51:38] realized [51:38] it [51:39] a few [51:39] days [51:39] ago [51:40] when [51:40] I [51:40] was [51:40] reviewing [51:40] this [51:41] I [51:41] was [51:42] given [51:42] pala [51:42] binigyan [51:43] ho [51:43] pala [51:43] ako [51:44] ng [51:45] original [51:45] copy [51:46] ng [51:47] affidavit [51:47] this [51:48] was [51:48] executed [51:49] November [51:50] 29 [51:50] 2025 [51:52] the [51:52] contents [51:53] of [51:53] which [51:53] are [51:53] exactly [51:54] the [51:54] same [51:54] as [51:55] those [51:55] attached [51:56] as [51:56] annex [51:56] A [51:56] ng [51:57] Sabalia [51:58] et [51:58] al [51:58] and [51:59] Cabrera [51:59] complaint [52:00] and [52:00] then [52:01] lumabas [52:02] na rin [52:03] po [52:03] ito [52:03] sa [52:03] social [52:03] media [52:04] after [52:05] November [52:05] 27 [52:06] so [52:07] naging [52:07] lalo [52:07] po [52:08] akong [52:08] curious [52:08] and [52:09] interested [52:09] so [52:10] I [52:10] decided [52:10] to [52:11] go [52:11] and [52:11] see [52:11] him [52:12] and [52:12] it [52:12] happened [52:13] in [52:13] December [52:13] 8 [52:14] 2025 [52:15] duly [52:16] recorded [52:16] in [52:17] the [52:17] BJ [52:17] MP [52:18] facility [52:18] so [52:19] I [52:19] talked [52:19] to [52:20] him [52:20] he [52:20] was [52:21] accompanied [52:21] then [52:22] the [52:22] lawyer [52:23] attorney [52:23] was [52:24] there [52:25] I [52:26] was [52:27] asking [52:28] probing [52:41] and [52:41] searching [52:41] questions [52:42] for [52:43] to [52:43] test [52:44] for [52:45] credibility [52:46] now [52:47] wala [52:48] po [52:48] akong [52:48] dinagdag [52:49] sa [52:50] affidavit [52:50] na [52:51] to [52:51] wala [52:52] po [52:52] akong [52:52] binago [52:53] sa [52:54] affidavit [52:54] na [52:54] to [52:55] wala [52:55] po [52:56] akong [52:56] dinikta [52:57] kay [52:57] Mr. [52:58] Madriaga [52:58] tungkol [52:59] sa [52:59] affidavit [53:00] na [53:00] to [53:00] ang [53:01] ginawa [53:01] ko [53:01] lang [53:01] po [53:02] noong [53:03] December [53:03] 8 [53:04] tandang [53:05] tanda [53:05] ko [53:05] po [53:05] kasi [53:05] holiday [53:06] po [53:06] yan [53:06] immaculate [53:07] conception [53:07] for [53:08] two [53:08] hours [53:09] I [53:10] was [53:10] there [53:10] at [53:10] the [53:11] BJ [53:11] MP [53:11] facility [53:12] as I [53:12] said [53:12] duly [53:13] recorded [53:13] merong [53:14] CCTV [53:16] so [53:17] that's [53:18] all [53:18] that [53:19] I [53:19] did [53:19] and [53:20] that [53:20] was [53:20] the [53:20] singular [53:21] visit [53:21] that [53:22] I [53:22] made [53:22] to [53:23] Mr. [53:23] Madriaga [53:24] so [53:25] that [53:26] was [53:26] the [53:26] first [53:26] and [53:27] last [53:28] visit [53:30] that [53:30] I [53:30] made [53:31] to [53:31] Mr. [53:31] Madriaga [53:32] on [53:32] account [53:33] of [53:33] this [53:34] affidavit [53:35] so [53:36] Madam [53:36] Chair [53:37] we [53:37] can [53:37] probably [53:38] ask [53:38] Mr. [53:39] Madriaga [53:39] confirmation [53:40] of [53:41] what [53:41] I [53:41] said [53:41] is [53:42] the [53:42] handwritten [53:44] letter [53:45] subsequently [53:46] he [53:46] sent [53:47] a copy [53:49] of [53:49] his [53:51] counsel [53:51] and [53:52] I [53:52] visit [53:52] one [53:53] time [53:54] in [53:55] December [53:55] 8 [53:56] 2025 [53:59] Is it [54:00] your [54:00] intention [54:01] honorable [54:01] dilemma [54:02] to [54:02] submit [54:02] the [54:04] personal [54:04] letter [54:05] of [54:05] Ramil [54:06] Madriaga [54:06] to [54:06] you [54:06] to [54:07] this [54:07] committee [54:07] to [54:08] form [54:08] part [54:08] of [54:08] the [54:08] records [54:09] of [54:09] this [54:09] proceeding [54:10] as [54:10] well [54:10] Yes [54:11] Madam [54:11] Chair [54:11] only [54:12] that [54:12] I [54:12] can [54:12] only [54:13] give [54:14] to [54:14] the [54:14] committee [54:15] or [54:15] submit [54:15] to [54:15] the [54:15] committee [54:16] photocopies [54:16] of [54:17] this [54:17] photocopy [54:17] of the [54:18] handwritten [54:18] letter [54:18] because [54:19] this [54:19] is [54:19] the [54:19] original [54:20] a [54:20] four [54:20] page [54:21] letter [54:21] So [54:21] long [54:22] as [54:22] you [54:22] confirm [54:22] that [54:22] the [54:23] photocopy [54:23] is [54:24] an [54:24] exact [54:25] and [54:25] faithful [54:25] reproduction [54:26] of the [54:26] original [54:27] Yes [54:27] Yes [54:28] Madam Chair [54:28] We take note [54:29] of that [54:29] confirmation [54:29] So [54:32] may we [54:32] confirm [54:33] from [54:33] Ramil [54:34] Madriaga [54:34] just [54:35] to [54:36] conclude [54:36] the [54:36] disclosure [54:37] of [54:37] honorable [54:38] dilemma [54:38] having [54:39] sent [54:39] that [54:40] letter [54:40] and [54:40] the [54:41] original [54:41] affidavit [54:42] to [54:42] congresswoman [54:43] Dilimah [54:44] Maari [54:44] ho ba [54:44] namin [54:45] kumpirmahin [54:45] sa [54:45] inyo [54:46] ang [54:47] inyong [54:47] pagkapagpadala [54:48] ng [54:49] sulat [54:49] at [54:50] original [54:51] affidavit [54:51] kay [54:52] honorable [54:52] Dilimah [54:53] Mr. [54:54] Madriaga [54:54] Magandang [54:56] tanghali [54:57] po [54:57] Madam Chair [54:58] sa lahat [54:58] Opo [54:59] Madam Chair [54:59] kino [54:59] confirm [55:00] ko [55:00] Thank you [55:01] Thank you [55:02] With that [55:02] we direct [55:03] the [55:03] committee [55:03] secretary [55:04] to [55:04] receive [55:05] the [55:05] copy [55:06] of [55:06] the [55:06] personal [55:07] letter [55:07] of [55:08] Ramil [55:08] Madriaga [55:09] to [55:09] congresswoman [55:10] Dilimah [55:11] to form [55:11] part of [55:12] the [55:12] records [55:12] of the [55:12] proceeding [55:13] in this [55:13] case [55:13] we [55:14] further [55:15] direct [55:15] the [55:16] comsec [55:16] to [55:16] provide [55:17] copy [55:17] of [55:17] the [55:17] same [55:18] to [55:19] all [55:19] the [55:19] members [55:19] of [55:20] the [55:20] justice [55:20] committee [55:21] including [55:21] the [55:22] ex [55:22] official [55:22] including [55:24] our [55:24] respondent [55:25] we shall [55:27] now [55:27] proceed [55:27] to our [55:28] clarificatory [55:29] questions [55:30] do you have [55:31] other [55:31] manifestation [55:32] honorable [55:32] Dilimah [55:33] are you [55:34] done [55:34] yes [55:35] at the [55:35] moment [55:36] Madam Chair [55:36] thank you [55:37] now we [55:38] go back [55:38] to [55:38] honorable [55:39] Ridon [55:39] can we be [56:06] specific [56:07] congressman [56:08] ridon [56:08] because [56:09] it appears [56:10] that there [56:11] are two [56:11] affidavits [56:12] already [56:13] the [56:14] original [56:14] consisting [56:15] of five [56:15] pages [56:16] and the [56:18] supplemental [56:18] affidavit [56:19] which was [56:20] mentioned [56:20] by the [56:21] honorable [56:21] Abante [56:21] sige po [56:27] maglilinaw [56:27] tayo [56:28] so bukod po [56:28] doon sa [56:29] affidavit [56:30] na pinirmahan [56:31] na binigyan [56:31] po ng [56:31] kopya [56:32] si [56:32] congresswoman [56:33] de Lima [56:34] meron pa [56:35] po ba [56:35] kayong [56:35] ibang [56:36] mga [56:36] dokumento [56:37] o [56:37] affidavit [56:38] na [56:39] pinirmahan [56:40] ginong [56:41] madriaga [56:41] opo [56:43] bukod po [56:43] doon sa [56:44] november [56:45] 29 [56:45] na [56:46] affidavit [56:47] ay [56:48] meron pa [56:49] po [56:49] akong [56:50] supplemental [56:50] sinumpaang [56:53] sa [56:54] lesay [56:54] na may [56:55] pets [56:55] ang [56:55] april [56:56] 11 [56:56] 20 [56:57] 26 [56:59] so ito [57:00] po yung [57:00] supplemental [57:01] affidavit [57:01] bagong [57:02] affidavit [57:02] po ito [57:03] opo [57:03] madam [57:03] chair [57:04] meron po [57:05] ba [57:05] kayong [57:05] kopya [57:06] ng [57:07] supplemental [57:07] affidavit [57:08] po [57:08] na [57:08] ito [57:08] opo [57:08] madam [57:09] chair [57:09] nasa [57:09] abogado [57:10] po po [57:11] madam [57:12] chair [57:12] kasi [57:12] yung [57:13] affidavit [57:14] po [57:14] ay [57:14] nakalagay [57:15] po [57:15] sa [57:15] records [57:16] po [57:16] ng [57:16] committee [57:17] ang [57:18] supplemental [57:19] affidavit [57:19] po [57:20] ay [57:20] bagong [57:21] affidavit [57:23] karagdagang [57:23] affidavit [57:24] ni [57:24] ginong [57:24] madriaga [57:25] tingin ko [57:25] mahalaga po [57:27] na [57:27] mabasa [57:28] sa harap [57:29] po [57:29] ng [57:30] committee [57:30] na ito [57:31] yung [57:31] kabuan po [57:32] na [57:32] supplemental [57:33] affidavit [57:34] para mag [57:35] form part [57:36] ng records [57:36] at [57:37] syempre [57:38] masumpaan din po [57:40] na [57:40] ni [57:40] ginong [57:41] madriaga [57:41] ang [57:42] katotohanan [57:42] po [57:43] ng bagay [57:43] na ito [57:43] madam chair [57:44] so [57:45] there [57:45] is [57:45] a [57:45] request [57:46] for [57:47] madriaga [57:48] to [57:48] read [57:49] his [57:51] supplemental [57:51] affidavit [57:52] do you [57:52] have [57:53] with [57:53] you [57:53] the [57:53] copy [57:54] o [57:55] madam [57:55] chair [57:56] yes [57:56] if [57:57] there [57:57] are [57:57] no [57:57] objections [57:58] from [57:58] the [57:58] members [57:59] then [57:59] we [57:59] we [58:01] give [58:01] the [58:01] floor [58:02] to [58:02] madriaga [58:03] to [58:03] read [58:04] his [58:04] supplemental [58:05] affidavit [58:06] for [58:07] the [58:07] guidance [58:07] of [58:08] the [58:08] members [58:09] we [58:09] also [58:10] direct [58:10] the [58:11] comsec [58:11] if [58:12] it [58:12] is [58:12] possible [58:12] to [58:13] flash [58:13] in [58:15] the [58:15] screen [58:15] the [58:16] supplemental [58:16] affidavit [58:17] of [58:18] the [58:18] resource [58:18] person [58:19] as [58:19] he [58:20] read [58:20] the [58:21] same [58:21] kindly [58:25] provide [58:25] as [58:25] well [58:25] copies [58:26] of [58:26] the [58:26] supplemental [58:27] affidavit [58:27] to [58:27] all [58:28] the [58:28] members [58:28] and [58:32] flash [58:32] the [58:33] same [58:33] in [58:33] the [58:33] screen [58:33] as [58:34] the [58:34] resource [58:35] person [58:35] read [58:36] the [58:36] contents [58:36] of [58:36] the [58:37] supplemental [58:37] affidavit [58:38] you [58:38] may [58:39] proceed [58:39] Mr. [58:40] Madriaga [58:40] please [58:41] read [58:41] your [58:41] supplemental [58:42] affidavit [58:43] supplemental [58:47] affidavit [58:48] I [58:49] Ramil [58:49] L [58:50] Madriaga [58:50] of [58:51] Legal [58:51] Age [58:51] Filipino [58:52] and [58:52] with [58:52] address [58:52] at [58:53] care [58:53] of [58:53] Annex [58:54] BGMP [58:54] Camp [58:55] Bagong [58:55] Diwa [58:55] Taguig [58:56] City [58:56] after [58:57] having [58:57] been [58:57] duly [58:58] sworn [58:58] in [58:58] accordance [58:58] with [58:59] law [58:59] do [58:59] hereby [59:00] state [59:00] one [59:01] I [59:02] am [59:02] currently [59:03] a detainee [59:04] at [59:04] Camp [59:04] Bagong [59:04] Diwa [59:05] Taguig [59:05] City [59:06] for [59:06] charges [59:06] of [59:07] kidnapping [59:07] criminal [59:08] case [59:08] number [59:09] RML [59:09] 22 [59:11] 05157 [59:13] CR [59:13] and [59:14] R-MNL [59:16] 22 [59:16] 05158 [59:18] pending [59:19] before the [59:20] regional [59:20] trial [59:20] court [59:21] branch [59:21] 21 [59:22] RTC [59:22] Manila [59:23] two [59:24] on [59:25] November [59:25] 29 [59:26] 2025 [59:26] I [59:28] executed [59:28] an [59:28] apidabit [59:29] which [59:29] was [59:30] subscribed [59:30] and [59:31] sworn [59:31] to [59:31] before [59:31] attorney [59:32] Cintia [59:32] Vinas [59:33] Pantanal [59:34] on the [59:34] same [59:34] day [59:34] in [59:36] my [59:36] apidabit [59:36] I [59:37] narrated [59:37] my [59:37] involvement [59:38] with [59:38] then [59:38] President [59:39] Rodrigo [59:39] Roa [59:40] Duterte [59:40] PRRD [59:41] his [59:42] daughter [59:42] Sara [59:42] Duterte [59:43] Sara [59:43] other [59:44] members [59:45] of their [59:45] family [59:45] and [59:46] their [59:46] close [59:46] associates [59:47] more [59:48] specifically [59:48] I [59:49] provided [59:49] a [59:49] personal [59:50] account [59:50] of [59:50] the [59:50] body's [59:51] works [59:51] I [59:51] did [59:52] for [59:52] the [59:52] aforementioned [59:52] individuals [59:53] including [59:54] campaign [59:55] and [59:55] organizing [59:55] activities [59:56] intelligence [59:57] gathering [59:58] and [59:58] sabotage [59:59] and [59:59] transportation [1:00:00] of large [1:00:00] sums [1:00:01] of money [1:00:01] under the [1:00:02] direct [1:00:02] instructions [1:00:02] of either [1:00:03] PRD [1:00:04] or [1:00:04] Sara [1:00:05] 3 [1:00:05] with [1:00:06] my [1:00:06] consent [1:00:07] my [1:00:07] apidabit [1:00:08] was [1:00:08] submitted [1:00:09] and [1:00:09] referred [1:00:09] to [1:00:09] the [1:00:10] office [1:00:10] of [1:00:10] the [1:00:10] ombudsman [1:00:11] through [1:00:11] a [1:00:11] letter [1:00:12] dated [1:00:12] December [1:00:12] 15 [1:00:13] 2025 [1:00:13] 4 [1:00:15] after [1:00:15] I [1:00:15] executed [1:00:16] my [1:00:16] apidabit [1:00:16] I [1:00:17] learned [1:00:17] that [1:00:17] Sara [1:00:18] denied [1:00:18] any [1:00:18] affiliation [1:00:19] with [1:00:19] me [1:00:19] and [1:00:20] that [1:00:20] she [1:00:20] has [1:00:20] no [1:00:20] personal [1:00:21] or [1:00:22] professional [1:00:22] relationship [1:00:23] with [1:00:23] me [1:00:24] she [1:00:24] added [1:00:25] that [1:00:25] she [1:00:25] has [1:00:25] never [1:00:25] given [1:00:26] me [1:00:26] any [1:00:26] instruction [1:00:27] of [1:00:27] any [1:00:27] kind [1:00:28] 5 [1:00:28] I [1:00:29] received [1:00:30] through [1:00:30] my [1:00:30] counsel [1:00:30] a [1:00:31] copy [1:00:31] of [1:00:31] complaint [1:00:31] dated [1:00:32] March [1:00:32] 4 [1:00:32] 20 [1:00:33] 26 [1:00:33] filed [1:00:34] by [1:00:34] Sara [1:00:34] or [1:00:34] BP [1:00:35] Sara [1:00:35] herself [1:00:35] before [1:00:36] the [1:00:37] office [1:00:37] of [1:00:37] the [1:00:37] city [1:00:37] prosecutor [1:00:38] Taguig [1:00:39] City [1:00:39] for [1:00:39] perjury [1:00:40] in [1:00:41] her [1:00:41] complaint [1:00:41] BP [1:00:42] Sara [1:00:42] reiterated [1:00:43] that [1:00:43] she [1:00:43] has [1:00:44] no [1:00:44] personal [1:00:44] or [1:00:44] professional [1:00:45] relationship [1:00:46] with [1:00:46] me [1:00:46] in [1:00:47] fact [1:00:47] prior [1:00:47] to [1:00:48] the [1:00:48] dissemination [1:00:48] of [1:00:48] the [1:00:49] Madriaga [1:00:49] apidabit [1:00:50] BP [1:00:50] Sara [1:00:51] had [1:00:51] no [1:00:51] recollection [1:00:52] of [1:00:52] knowing [1:00:52] meeting [1:00:52] or [1:00:53] interacting [1:00:53] with [1:00:54] me [1:00:54] 6 [1:00:55] however [1:00:56] her [1:00:56] denial [1:00:56] of [1:00:57] any [1:00:57] appellation [1:00:57] with [1:00:58] me [1:00:58] is [1:00:58] absolutely [1:00:58] false [1:00:59] she [1:00:59] lied [1:01:00] under [1:01:00] oath [1:01:00] in [1:01:00] her [1:01:01] perjury [1:01:01] complaint [1:01:01] against [1:01:02] me [1:01:02] hence [1:01:03] I [1:01:03] decided [1:01:04] to [1:01:04] execute [1:01:04] a [1:01:04] supplemental [1:01:05] apidabit [1:01:05] providing [1:01:06] further [1:01:07] details [1:01:07] on the [1:01:08] narration [1:01:08] I [1:01:08] made [1:01:08] in [1:01:09] my [1:01:09] previous [1:01:09] apidabit [1:01:10] with [1:01:10] additional [1:01:11] accounts [1:01:11] of [1:01:11] other [1:01:12] orders [1:01:12] tasks [1:01:13] or [1:01:13] works [1:01:13] given [1:01:14] to [1:01:14] me [1:01:14] by [1:01:14] either [1:01:15] PRD [1:01:15] or [1:01:16] Sara [1:01:16] or [1:01:17] BP [1:01:17] Sara [1:01:17] engagement [1:01:19] activities [1:01:19] with [1:01:20] President [1:01:20] Rodrigo [1:01:21] Roa [1:01:21] Duterte [1:01:21] 7 [1:01:23] prior to [1:01:24] the [1:01:25] 2016 [1:01:25] national [1:01:26] elections [1:01:26] campaign [1:01:27] I [1:01:27] was [1:01:27] working [1:01:28] for [1:01:28] then [1:01:28] Congressman [1:01:29] Roylo [1:01:29] Goles [1:01:30] as [1:01:31] one [1:01:31] of [1:01:31] his [1:01:31] political [1:01:32] officers [1:01:32] specializing [1:01:34] intelligence [1:01:35] gathering [1:01:35] and [1:01:35] sabotage [1:01:36] operations [1:01:36] Congressman [1:01:38] Goles [1:01:39] decided [1:01:39] to [1:01:39] support [1:01:40] the [1:01:40] candidacy [1:01:40] of [1:01:41] PRD [1:01:41] hence [1:01:42] he [1:01:43] introduced [1:01:43] me [1:01:44] and [1:01:44] endorsed [1:01:44] my [1:01:45] services [1:01:45] to [1:01:45] PRD [1:01:46] during [1:01:46] their [1:01:47] meeting [1:01:47] at [1:01:47] the [1:01:47] latter's [1:01:48] residence [1:01:48] in [1:01:48] Taal [1:01:49] Street [1:01:51] Bangkal [1:01:52] Davao [1:01:52] City [1:01:52] around [1:01:54] 2015 [1:01:55] or [1:01:55] early [1:01:55] 2016 [1:01:56] he [1:01:58] mentioned [1:01:58] to [1:01:58] PRD [1:01:59] that [1:01:59] I [1:01:59] was [1:01:59] previously [1:02:00] under [1:02:00] detention [1:02:01] and [1:02:02] that [1:02:02] I [1:02:02] later [1:02:02] survived [1:02:03] death [1:02:03] row [1:02:04] Congressman [1:02:05] Goles [1:02:06] also [1:02:06] added [1:02:07] that [1:02:07] I [1:02:07] am [1:02:07] his [1:02:08] number [1:02:08] one [1:02:08] asset [1:02:08] in [1:02:09] the [1:02:09] National [1:02:09] Security [1:02:10] Council [1:02:10] during [1:02:11] his [1:02:11] time [1:02:11] as [1:02:11] national [1:02:12] security [1:02:12] advisor [1:02:13] 9 [1:02:14] when [1:02:15] PRD [1:02:16] was [1:02:16] elected [1:02:16] president [1:02:17] count [1:02:18] Goles [1:02:18] brother [1:02:19] Ferdinand [1:02:19] Goles [1:02:20] was appointed [1:02:20] as a [1:02:20] member [1:02:21] of the [1:02:21] board [1:02:21] of [1:02:21] directors [1:02:22] or [1:02:22] the [1:02:22] base [1:02:23] conversion [1:02:23] and [1:02:24] development [1:02:24] authority [1:02:25] BCDA [1:02:26] on the [1:02:27] other [1:02:27] hand [1:02:27] PRD [1:02:28] directed [1:02:29] me [1:02:29] to [1:02:29] serve [1:02:29] as a [1:02:30] counterintelligence [1:02:30] agent [1:02:31] for the [1:02:31] National [1:02:31] Security [1:02:32] Council [1:02:32] 10 [1:02:33] however [1:02:35] I [1:02:35] was never [1:02:35] under [1:02:36] the [1:02:36] employ [1:02:36] of [1:02:36] the [1:02:37] office [1:02:37] of [1:02:37] the [1:02:37] president [1:02:37] or [1:02:38] any [1:02:38] government [1:02:38] agency [1:02:39] instead [1:02:40] I [1:02:40] was [1:02:41] directly [1:02:41] employed [1:02:41] by [1:02:42] PRD [1:02:42] I [1:02:43] received [1:02:44] my salary [1:02:44] from a [1:02:45] PNP [1:02:46] officer [1:02:46] at the [1:02:48] start [1:02:48] of [1:02:49] every [1:02:49] month [1:02:49] in [1:02:49] the [1:02:49] amount [1:02:50] of [1:02:50] 100,000 [1:02:51] pesos [1:02:51] to [1:02:52] 150,000 [1:02:53] pesos [1:02:53] in [1:02:54] cash [1:02:54] 11 [1:02:55] as [1:02:56] part [1:02:56] of [1:02:56] my [1:02:56] duties [1:02:57] PRD [1:02:58] specifically [1:02:58] instructed [1:02:59] me [1:02:59] to [1:03:00] monitor [1:03:00] operate [1:03:01] and [1:03:01] sabotage [1:03:02] former [1:03:02] Senator [1:03:02] Trillanes [1:03:03] however [1:03:04] PRD [1:03:05] was [1:03:05] apprehensive [1:03:06] in [1:03:07] ordering [1:03:07] the [1:03:07] assassination [1:03:08] of [1:03:08] Senator [1:03:08] Trillanes [1:03:09] because [1:03:09] of [1:03:10] the [1:03:10] support [1:03:10] and [1:03:11] contact [1:03:11] in [1:03:11] the [1:03:11] armed [1:03:12] forces [1:03:12] of [1:03:12] the [1:03:12] Philippines [1:03:13] 12 [1:03:14] sometimes [1:03:15] in [1:03:16] 2018 [1:03:16] PRD [1:03:17] asked [1:03:18] Sarah [1:03:18] to [1:03:19] go to [1:03:20] his [1:03:20] home [1:03:20] in [1:03:20] Taal [1:03:20] Street [1:03:21] to [1:03:22] discuss [1:03:23] upcoming [1:03:33] local [1:03:33] elections [1:03:34] in [1:03:34] Davao [1:03:34] City [1:03:35] where [1:03:35] BP [1:03:35] Sarah [1:03:36] was [1:03:36] going [1:03:36] to [1:03:37] run [1:03:37] for [1:03:37] re-election [1:03:38] as [1:03:38] mayor [1:03:38] during [1:03:39] this [1:03:40] meeting [1:03:40] PRD [1:03:41] introduced [1:03:42] me [1:03:42] to [1:03:42] Sarah [1:03:43] and [1:03:43] told [1:03:43] me [1:03:43] since [1:03:46] then [1:03:46] I [1:03:47] frequently [1:03:47] met [1:03:48] and [1:03:48] discussed [1:03:48] with [1:03:48] BP [1:03:49] Sarah [1:03:49] then [1:03:50] Mayor [1:03:50] Sarah [1:03:51] regarding [1:03:51] various [1:03:52] matters [1:03:52] however [1:03:53] she gave [1:03:54] me [1:03:54] strict [1:03:54] instructions [1:03:55] that [1:03:55] all [1:03:55] conversations [1:03:56] should [1:03:56] be [1:03:56] done [1:03:56] as [1:03:56] much [1:03:57] as [1:03:57] possible [1:03:57] by [1:03:58] call [1:03:58] and [1:03:59] minimize [1:03:59] text [1:04:00] messages [1:04:00] 13 [1:04:02] furthermore [1:04:03] PRD [1:04:04] also [1:04:04] asked [1:04:04] me [1:04:05] to [1:04:05] profile [1:04:05] individuals [1:04:06] associated [1:04:07] with [1:04:07] BP [1:04:07] Sarah [1:04:07] then [1:04:08] again [1:04:08] Mayor [1:04:09] Sarah [1:04:09] because [1:04:10] she [1:04:10] is [1:04:10] his [1:04:11] favorite [1:04:11] among [1:04:12] his [1:04:12] children [1:04:12] PRD [1:04:13] wanted [1:04:14] Sarah [1:04:14] BP [1:04:15] Sarah [1:04:15] in [1:04:15] politics [1:04:15] instead [1:04:16] of [1:04:16] Paulo [1:04:17] Duterte [1:04:17] Pulong [1:04:18] and [1:04:18] Sebastian [1:04:18] Duterte [1:04:19] Basté [1:04:19] who [1:04:20] he [1:04:21] characterized [1:04:21] as [1:04:21] Baliv [1:04:22] and [1:04:22] Bading [1:04:22] respectively [1:04:23] number [1:04:25] 14 [1:04:25] sometimes [1:04:27] in [1:04:28] 2021 [1:04:28] PRD [1:04:29] gave [1:04:29] me [1:04:30] 25 [1:04:30] million [1:04:30] to [1:04:31] purchase [1:04:32] high-end [1:04:32] motorcycles [1:04:33] for [1:04:34] Sarah's [1:04:34] use [1:04:35] while she [1:04:35] is in [1:04:36] Metro [1:04:36] Manila [1:04:36] and other [1:04:37] ordinary [1:04:37] motorcycles [1:04:38] for our [1:04:38] group [1:04:38] operations [1:04:39] 15 [1:04:40] hence [1:04:41] I [1:04:41] bought [1:04:41] two [1:04:42] 2021 [1:04:42] model [1:04:43] Harley [1:04:43] Davidson [1:04:44] motorcycles [1:04:44] from [1:04:45] a [1:04:45] dealership [1:04:46] in [1:04:46] Green [1:04:46] Hills [1:04:47] Edsa [1:04:47] for [1:04:47] around [1:04:48] 2 [1:04:48] million [1:04:48] 500 [1:04:49] thousand [1:04:49] pesos [1:04:49] inclusive [1:04:50] of [1:04:51] accessories [1:04:51] and [1:04:52] around [1:04:52] 2 [1:04:52] million [1:04:52] pesos [1:04:54] exclusive [1:04:54] accessories [1:04:55] respectively [1:04:56] both [1:04:56] Harley [1:04:57] Davidson [1:04:57] motorcycles [1:04:57] were [1:04:58] placed [1:04:58] under [1:04:59] the [1:04:59] name [1:04:59] of [1:04:59] my [1:04:59] son [1:04:59] I [1:05:01] also [1:05:01] purchased [1:05:02] two [1:05:02] 2021 [1:05:03] model [1:05:03] Ducati [1:05:03] motorcycles [1:05:04] from [1:05:05] a [1:05:05] dealership [1:05:06] in [1:05:06] Catipunan [1:05:06] Quezon [1:05:06] City [1:05:07] for [1:05:07] around [1:05:07] 3 [1:05:08] million [1:05:08] 500 [1:05:08] thousand [1:05:09] pesos [1:05:09] and [1:05:12] around [1:05:12] 2 [1:05:12] million [1:05:12] 300 [1:05:13] thousand [1:05:14] pesos [1:05:14] respectively [1:05:15] in [1:05:16] addition [1:05:17] I [1:05:17] also [1:05:17] bought [1:05:18] accessories [1:05:18] for [1:05:18] these [1:05:19] Ducati [1:05:19] motorcycles [1:05:20] in [1:05:20] the [1:05:20] total [1:05:20] amount [1:05:20] of [1:05:21] 500 [1:05:21] thousand [1:05:21] pesos [1:05:22] both [1:05:23] the [1:05:23] Ducati [1:05:23] motorcycles [1:05:24] were placed [1:05:25] under [1:05:25] my name [1:05:26] 17 [1:05:27] lastly [1:05:28] I [1:05:28] also [1:05:29] purchased [1:05:29] seven [1:05:29] Yamaha [1:05:30] and [1:05:30] Max [1:05:30] motorcycles [1:05:31] for [1:05:31] the [1:05:32] operation [1:05:32] of [1:05:32] initiative [1:05:33] for [1:05:33] social [1:05:33] justice [1:05:34] innovation [1:05:34] and [1:05:34] progress [1:05:35] Filipinas [1:05:35] or [1:05:36] Isip [1:05:36] Filipinas [1:05:36] the [1:05:37] remaining [1:05:38] money [1:05:38] was [1:05:38] distributed [1:05:39] to my [1:05:39] colleagues [1:05:39] in [1:05:40] Isip [1:05:41] 18 [1:05:42] all [1:05:43] purchases [1:05:43] of [1:05:43] these [1:05:44] motorcycles [1:05:44] including [1:05:45] the [1:05:45] aforementioned [1:05:46] accessories [1:05:46] were [1:05:47] paid [1:05:47] in [1:05:47] cash [1:05:47] using [1:05:48] the [1:05:48] money [1:05:48] given [1:05:48] to [1:05:49] me [1:05:49] by [1:05:49] PRRD [1:05:49] custom [1:05:52] magnetic [1:05:52] litter [1:05:52] transaction [1:05:53] with [1:05:53] attorney [1:05:54] Manassas [1:05:54] Manscarpio [1:05:55] sometime [1:05:56] in [1:05:57] 2017 [1:05:57] or [1:05:57] 2018 [1:05:58] PRRD [1:05:59] told [1:05:59] me [1:05:59] to [1:06:00] assist [1:06:00] the [1:06:00] husband [1:06:00] of [1:06:00] Sara [1:06:01] attorney [1:06:02] Manassas [1:06:02] Manscarpio [1:06:03] regarding [1:06:04] a problem [1:06:04] with [1:06:05] the [1:06:05] Bureau [1:06:05] of [1:06:05] customs [1:06:05] However [1:06:06] no [1:06:07] specific [1:06:07] details [1:06:07] were [1:06:08] provided [1:06:08] by [1:06:08] PRRD [1:06:09] Thereafter [1:06:10] attorney [1:06:10] Manass [1:06:11] called [1:06:11] me [1:06:11] We [1:06:12] later [1:06:12] decided [1:06:12] to [1:06:13] meet [1:06:13] in [1:06:13] front [1:06:13] of [1:06:13] a [1:06:13] coffee [1:06:13] shop [1:06:14] in [1:06:14] Burgos [1:06:14] Circle [1:06:15] in [1:06:16] Bonipas [1:06:17] Global [1:06:17] City [1:06:17] Taguig [1:06:18] City [1:06:18] During [1:06:19] our [1:06:19] conversation [1:06:20] he [1:06:20] asked [1:06:20] me [1:06:20] to [1:06:21] assist [1:06:21] in [1:06:21] facilitating [1:06:22] the [1:06:22] release [1:06:22] of [1:06:22] what [1:06:23] he [1:06:23] called [1:06:23] construction [1:06:24] equipment [1:06:25] which [1:06:26] was [1:06:26] plugged [1:06:27] and [1:06:27] confiscated [1:06:27] by [1:06:28] the [1:06:28] Bureau [1:06:28] of [1:06:28] Customs [1:06:29] Attorney [1:06:31] Manass [1:06:31] gave [1:06:31] me [1:06:31] a [1:06:31] contact [1:06:32] person [1:06:32] a [1:06:32] female [1:06:33] lawyer [1:06:33] to [1:06:33] coordinate [1:06:34] with [1:06:34] it [1:06:35] regarding [1:06:35] the [1:06:35] BOC [1:06:36] problem [1:06:36] After [1:06:37] two [1:06:37] days [1:06:38] I [1:06:38] went [1:06:38] to [1:06:39] the [1:06:39] BOC [1:06:40] to [1:06:40] meet [1:06:40] the [1:06:40] female [1:06:41] lawyer [1:06:41] to [1:06:41] discuss [1:06:42] the [1:06:42] release [1:06:42] of [1:06:42] construction [1:06:43] equipment [1:06:44] This [1:06:44] time [1:06:45] I [1:06:45] learned [1:06:46] that [1:06:46] the [1:06:46] construction [1:06:46] equipment [1:06:47] was [1:06:47] actually [1:06:48] magnetic [1:06:48] lifters [1:06:48] the [1:06:49] same [1:06:50] were [1:06:50] confiscated [1:06:50] because [1:06:51] it [1:06:51] contained [1:06:51] a [1:06:51] large [1:06:51] amount [1:06:52] of [1:06:52] shabu [1:06:52] however [1:06:53] the [1:06:54] female [1:06:54] lawyer [1:06:54] informed [1:06:55] me [1:06:55] that [1:06:55] it [1:06:55] was [1:06:55] difficult [1:06:56] to [1:06:56] release [1:06:56] the [1:06:56] same [1:06:57] because [1:06:58] it [1:06:58] was [1:06:58] a [1:06:58] hot [1:06:58] item [1:06:59] 22 [1:07:00] I [1:07:01] reported [1:07:01] this [1:07:01] to [1:07:02] Attorney [1:07:02] Manass [1:07:02] and [1:07:02] we [1:07:02] meet [1:07:03] again [1:07:03] in [1:07:04] the [1:07:05] same [1:07:05] spot [1:07:05] in [1:07:06] BGC [1:07:06] Taguig [1:07:06] City [1:07:07] this [1:07:07] was [1:07:08] the [1:07:08] last [1:07:08] time [1:07:08] we [1:07:08] met [1:07:09] regarding [1:07:09] the [1:07:09] issue [1:07:10] later [1:07:11] I [1:07:11] learned [1:07:11] that [1:07:18] 4.3 [1:07:19] billion [1:07:19] were [1:07:21] mysteriously [1:07:21] missing [1:07:22] dummy [1:07:24] accounts [1:07:24] and [1:07:24] bank [1:07:24] transaction [1:07:25] of [1:07:25] PRD [1:07:26] despite [1:07:28] only [1:07:28] earning [1:07:29] 100,000 [1:07:30] pesos [1:07:30] to [1:07:31] 150,000 [1:07:32] from [1:07:32] my [1:07:32] services [1:07:33] to [1:07:33] PRD [1:07:33] millions [1:07:34] of [1:07:34] pesos [1:07:35] went [1:07:35] through [1:07:35] bank [1:07:35] accounts [1:07:36] opened [1:07:36] for me [1:07:36] by [1:07:36] close [1:07:37] associates [1:07:37] of [1:07:37] PRD [1:07:38] I [1:07:39] admit [1:07:40] that [1:07:40] during [1:07:40] PRD's [1:07:41] term [1:07:41] as [1:07:41] president [1:07:41] I [1:07:42] served [1:07:42] as [1:07:42] a [1:07:42] dummy [1:07:42] for [1:07:43] the [1:07:43] transfer [1:07:43] of [1:07:43] large [1:07:43] amount [1:07:44] of [1:07:44] money [1:07:44] these [1:07:45] transfers [1:07:46] were [1:07:46] made [1:07:46] through [1:07:47] bank [1:07:47] accounts [1:07:47] that [1:07:49] were [1:07:49] opened [1:07:49] under [1:07:50] my [1:07:50] name [1:07:50] which [1:07:51] include [1:07:51] but [1:07:52] are [1:07:52] not [1:07:52] limited [1:07:52] to [1:07:52] the [1:07:52] following [1:07:53] China [1:07:54] Bank [1:07:54] Legaspi [1:07:54] Village [1:07:55] Makati [1:07:55] City [1:07:55] China [1:07:57] Bank [1:07:57] Main [1:07:58] Makati [1:07:58] City [1:07:59] China [1:07:59] Bank [1:08:00] near [1:08:00] the [1:08:00] Perch [1:08:00] Station [1:08:01] at [1:08:01] Ayala [1:08:01] Makati [1:08:01] City [1:08:02] PNB [1:08:03] Makati [1:08:03] Metropolitan [1:08:04] Avenue [1:08:04] Branch [1:08:05] Makati [1:08:05] City [1:08:05] and a [1:08:07] known [1:08:07] bank [1:08:07] in [1:08:08] Pasig [1:08:08] City [1:08:08] Siray [1:08:10] Mudo [1:08:10] If I [1:08:12] may [1:08:12] interrupt [1:08:12] Mr. [1:08:13] Madriaga [1:08:13] com [1:08:13] secondly [1:08:14] continue [1:08:15] flashing [1:08:15] on the [1:08:16] screen [1:08:16] the [1:08:17] pages [1:08:17] of [1:08:18] the [1:08:18] affidavit [1:08:18] from [1:08:19] where [1:08:19] the [1:08:20] resource [1:08:20] person [1:08:20] is [1:08:21] reading [1:08:21] and [1:08:24] kindly [1:08:24] speak [1:08:24] closer [1:08:25] to [1:08:25] the [1:08:25] microphone [1:08:26] Mr. [1:08:26] Madriaga [1:08:27] please [1:08:27] continue [1:08:29] 25 [1:08:31] however [1:08:31] I have [1:08:32] never [1:08:32] personally [1:08:33] opened [1:08:33] these [1:08:33] accounts [1:08:34] or [1:08:34] afford [1:08:35] before [1:08:35] the [1:08:35] said [1:08:35] banks [1:08:36] to [1:08:36] process [1:08:37] any [1:08:37] application [1:08:37] in [1:08:38] relation [1:08:38] there [1:08:38] to [1:08:38] these [1:08:39] were [1:08:40] opened [1:08:40] by [1:08:40] people [1:08:40] close [1:08:41] to [1:08:41] PRRD [1:08:41] who [1:08:42] informed [1:08:42] me [1:08:42] that [1:08:43] money [1:08:43] will [1:08:43] be [1:08:43] transferred [1:08:44] to [1:08:44] these [1:08:44] accounts [1:08:44] for [1:08:45] intelligence [1:08:45] operation [1:08:46] and [1:08:46] for [1:08:47] laundering [1:08:47] I [1:08:48] was [1:08:48] later [1:08:48] instructed [1:08:49] to [1:08:49] sign [1:08:49] entire [1:08:50] checkbook [1:08:50] where [1:08:50] the [1:08:50] amounts [1:08:51] and [1:08:51] pay [1:08:51] are [1:08:51] left [1:08:52] blank [1:08:52] I [1:08:53] agreed [1:08:53] to [1:08:53] this [1:08:54] because [1:08:54] at [1:08:55] the [1:08:55] time [1:08:55] I [1:08:55] had [1:08:55] complete [1:08:56] trust [1:08:56] in [1:08:56] PRRD [1:08:57] and [1:08:57] his [1:08:57] close [1:08:57] associates [1:08:58] 26 [1:09:00] on [1:09:00] some [1:09:00] occasions [1:09:01] PRRD [1:09:02] would [1:09:02] call [1:09:02] me [1:09:02] to [1:09:03] inform [1:09:03] me [1:09:03] that [1:09:03] someone [1:09:04] from [1:09:04] the [1:09:04] aforementioned [1:09:05] bank [1:09:05] would [1:09:06] contact [1:09:06] me [1:09:06] to [1:09:06] confirm [1:09:07] a [1:09:07] withdrawal [1:09:07] or [1:09:08] encashment [1:09:08] of [1:09:14] checks [1:09:14] there [1:09:14] were [1:09:15] also [1:09:15] instances [1:09:15] that [1:09:16] where [1:09:16] PRRD [1:09:17] would [1:09:18] instruct [1:09:18] me [1:09:18] to [1:09:19] personally [1:09:19] visit [1:09:20] the [1:09:20] bank [1:09:20] to [1:09:21] pick [1:09:28] remember [1:09:28] that [1:09:29] PRRD [1:09:29] directed [1:09:30] me [1:09:30] on [1:09:30] three [1:09:31] separate [1:09:31] occasions [1:09:32] to [1:09:32] pick [1:09:32] up [1:09:32] 100 [1:09:33] million [1:09:33] from [1:09:34] a [1:09:34] bank [1:09:35] inside [1:09:35] the [1:09:35] mall [1:09:35] in [1:09:35] Lubaw [1:09:36] Pampanga [1:09:36] which [1:09:37] were [1:09:37] all [1:09:37] delivered [1:09:37] to [1:09:38] Palakanyang [1:09:38] on [1:09:39] another [1:09:40] incident [1:09:40] I [1:09:41] was [1:09:41] informed [1:09:41] by [1:09:42] PRRD [1:09:42] that [1:09:43] the [1:09:43] two [1:09:43] land [1:09:43] bank [1:09:43] managers [1:09:44] check [1:09:44] which [1:09:44] were [1:09:44] to [1:09:45] be [1:09:45] delivered [1:09:45] to [1:09:45] one [1:09:45] of [1:09:46] our [1:09:46] safe [1:09:46] houses [1:09:46] in [1:09:47] Eastwood [1:09:47] Quezon [1:09:48] City [1:09:48] in [1:09:49] the [1:09:59] name [1:09:59] copies [1:10:00] of [1:10:00] the [1:10:01] two [1:10:01] land [1:10:01] bank [1:10:01] managers [1:10:01] checks [1:10:02] are [1:10:02] hereby [1:10:02] attached [1:10:02] as [1:10:03] annex [1:10:03] A [1:10:04] and [1:10:04] A-1 [1:10:05] 28 [1:10:06] to [1:10:07] prove [1:10:07] the [1:10:07] aforementioned [1:10:07] allegations [1:10:08] I [1:10:08] am [1:10:09] willing [1:10:09] to [1:10:09] execute [1:10:10] an [1:10:11] apidabit [1:10:11] authorization [1:10:12] or [1:10:12] any [1:10:12] other [1:10:13] document [1:10:14] and [1:10:14] to [1:10:14] perform [1:10:15] all [1:10:15] acts [1:10:16] necessary [1:10:16] for [1:10:16] committee [1:10:17] on [1:10:17] justice [1:10:17] of [1:10:17] the [1:10:17] house [1:10:18] of [1:10:18] representatives [1:10:18] or [1:10:19] the [1:10:19] courts [1:10:20] to [1:10:20] access [1:10:20] the [1:10:21] aforementioned [1:10:21] bank [1:10:21] accounts [1:10:22] and [1:10:22] all [1:10:23] other [1:10:23] bank [1:10:23] accounts [1:10:23] under [1:10:24] my [1:10:24] name [1:10:24] term [1:10:28] sharing [1:10:28] and [1:10:29] destabilization [1:10:30] efforts [1:10:30] 29 [1:10:32] sometime [1:10:33] in [1:10:33] November [1:10:34] 2021 [1:10:34] PRD [1:10:36] mentioned [1:10:36] to me [1:10:36] that [1:10:37] Ferdinand [1:10:37] Bongbong [1:10:38] Marcos [1:10:38] Jr. [1:10:39] will [1:10:39] run [1:10:40] for [1:10:40] the [1:10:40] president [1:10:40] while [1:10:41] Sarah [1:10:42] will [1:10:42] serve [1:10:42] as [1:10:42] his [1:10:43] running [1:10:43] mate [1:10:43] PRD [1:10:45] added [1:10:45] that [1:10:45] a [1:10:45] few [1:10:45] months [1:10:46] ago [1:10:46] BBM [1:10:47] and [1:10:47] Senator [1:10:47] IME [1:10:48] Marcos [1:10:49] visited [1:10:49] him [1:10:50] to [1:10:50] discuss [1:10:50] a [1:10:51] possible [1:10:51] alliance [1:10:52] to [1:10:52] the [1:10:52] 2022 [1:10:53] national [1:10:54] elections [1:10:54] during [1:10:55] this [1:10:55] meeting [1:10:56] BBM [1:10:57] was [1:10:57] able [1:10:57] to [1:10:57] convince [1:10:58] PRD [1:10:59] to [1:10:59] have [1:10:59] Sarah [1:11:00] as [1:11:00] BBM [1:11:00] vice [1:11:01] president [1:11:01] however [1:11:02] they [1:11:03] also [1:11:03] agreed [1:11:04] that [1:11:04] by [1:11:04] 2025 [1:11:04] BBM [1:11:05] will [1:11:06] voluntarily [1:11:06] step [1:11:07] down [1:11:07] to [1:11:07] give [1:11:07] way [1:11:08] for [1:11:08] a [1:11:08] Sarah [1:11:08] presidency [1:11:09] after [1:11:11] Sarah [1:11:11] took [1:11:11] her [1:11:11] out [1:11:12] as [1:11:12] vice [1:11:12] president [1:11:13] PRD [1:11:14] had [1:11:14] a [1:11:14] discussion [1:11:14] with [1:11:15] me [1:11:15] with [1:11:15] retired [1:11:16] generals [1:11:16] of the [1:11:16] armed [1:11:17] force [1:11:17] of the [1:11:17] Philippines [1:11:18] where [1:11:19] I [1:11:19] was [1:11:20] also [1:11:20] present [1:11:21] regarding [1:11:21] all [1:11:21] the [1:11:21] possible [1:11:22] scenarios [1:11:23] for [1:11:23] unseating [1:11:24] BBM [1:11:24] by 2025 [1:11:25] in [1:11:26] case [1:11:26] he [1:11:27] reneged [1:11:27] on [1:11:27] his [1:11:28] promise [1:11:28] the [1:11:29] general [1:11:30] objective [1:11:30] was [1:11:30] to [1:11:31] ensure [1:11:31] that [1:11:31] PBBM [1:11:32] will [1:11:32] only [1:11:33] serve [1:11:33] less [1:11:33] than [1:11:33] four [1:11:34] years [1:11:34] of [1:11:34] his [1:11:34] term [1:11:35] as [1:11:35] president [1:11:35] so [1:11:36] that [1:11:36] Sarah [1:11:37] will [1:11:39] still [1:11:39] be [1:11:39] eligible [1:11:40] for [1:11:40] the [1:11:40] presidency [1:11:41] in [1:11:41] 2028 [1:11:41] 31 [1:11:43] I [1:11:44] remember [1:11:44] that [1:11:44] one [1:11:45] of [1:11:45] the [1:11:45] plans [1:11:45] considered [1:11:46] was [1:11:46] to [1:11:46] sabotage [1:11:47] BBM's [1:11:48] administration [1:11:48] by using [1:11:49] some [1:11:49] BBM's [1:11:49] own [1:11:50] men [1:11:50] either [1:11:51] recommended [1:11:52] by [1:11:52] PRD [1:11:53] for [1:11:54] appointment [1:11:54] or [1:11:54] allied [1:11:55] with [1:11:55] Dutertez [1:11:56] to [1:11:56] rebuild [1:11:57] supposed [1:11:57] corruption [1:11:58] issues [1:11:58] that [1:11:59] will [1:11:59] serve [1:11:59] as [1:12:00] a precursor [1:12:00] for [1:12:01] impeachment [1:12:01] complaint [1:12:02] 32 [1:12:03] in [1:12:04] the [1:12:04] event [1:12:05] that [1:12:05] BBM [1:12:06] will [1:12:06] not [1:12:06] voluntarily [1:12:07] step [1:12:07] down [1:12:08] or [1:12:08] hand [1:12:08] over [1:12:08] the [1:12:08] presidency [1:12:09] to [1:12:09] Sarah [1:12:09] extraordinary [1:12:11] measures [1:12:12] of [1:12:12] overthrowing [1:12:13] BBM [1:12:13] will [1:12:14] be [1:12:14] considered [1:12:15] which [1:12:16] include [1:12:16] assassination [1:12:17] mass [1:12:18] resignation [1:12:18] of [1:12:18] government [1:12:19] officials [1:12:19] civil [1:12:20] disobedience [1:12:21] and [1:12:22] even [1:12:22] an [1:12:22] armed [1:12:23] assault [1:12:23] of [1:12:23] Malacan [1:12:24] palace [1:12:25] it [1:12:26] it [1:12:26] was [1:12:26] also [1:12:26] considered [1:12:27] by [1:12:27] PRD [1:12:27] to [1:12:28] arrange [1:12:28] assassination [1:12:29] or [1:12:29] armed [1:12:29] hits [1:12:30] of [1:12:30] several [1:12:31] government [1:12:31] officials [1:12:31] in [1:12:32] order [1:12:33] to [1:12:33] cause [1:12:33] massive [1:12:34] civil [1:12:34] unrest [1:12:34] the [1:12:35] resulting [1:12:36] civil [1:12:36] unrest [1:12:36] will [1:12:37] be [1:12:37] used [1:12:37] as [1:12:37] basis [1:12:37] to [1:12:38] organize [1:12:38] a [1:12:38] group [1:12:39] of [1:12:39] military [1:12:39] officers [1:12:40] to [1:12:40] stage [1:12:41] a [1:12:41] coup [1:12:41] 33 [1:12:42] one [1:12:43] of [1:12:43] my [1:12:44] assignments [1:12:44] was [1:12:45] to [1:12:45] recruit [1:12:45] civil [1:12:45] groups [1:12:46] schools [1:12:46] clubs [1:12:47] paternities [1:12:48] criminal [1:12:49] groups [1:12:49] and [1:12:49] syndicates [1:12:50] in [1:12:51] day [1:12:51] Sarah [1:12:52] is [1:12:52] my [1:12:52] president [1:12:52] ECP [1:12:53] and [1:12:53] 2022 [1:12:54] national [1:12:54] elections [1:12:55] campaign [1:12:55] 34 [1:12:56] in [1:12:57] 2020 [1:12:58] I [1:12:59] was [1:13:00] instructed [1:13:00] by [1:13:00] PRRD [1:13:01] and [1:13:01] Sarah [1:13:02] to [1:13:02] help [1:13:02] form [1:13:03] a [1:13:03] group [1:13:03] to [1:13:03] support [1:13:04] Sarah's [1:13:04] candidacy [1:13:04] for [1:13:05] presidents [1:13:05] in [1:13:06] the [1:13:06] 2022 [1:13:07] national [1:13:08] elections [1:13:08] hence [1:13:09] I [1:13:10] helped [1:13:10] establish [1:13:11] and [1:13:11] register [1:13:12] a [1:13:12] nonprofit [1:13:12] corporation [1:13:13] called [1:13:14] Initiative [1:13:14] for [1:13:14] Social [1:13:15] Justice [1:13:15] Innovation [1:13:15] and [1:13:16] Progress [1:13:16] or [1:13:17] ECP [1:13:17] Pilipinas [1:13:17] Incorporated [1:13:19] but [1:13:21] to [1:13:21] us [1:13:21] supporters [1:13:22] of [1:13:22] Sarah [1:13:22] ECP [1:13:23] actually [1:13:23] stands [1:13:24] for [1:13:25] Inday [1:13:25] Sarah [1:13:25] is [1:13:26] my [1:13:26] president [1:13:26] I [1:13:27] helped [1:13:28] establish [1:13:28] ECP [1:13:28] together [1:13:29] with [1:13:29] some [1:13:29] friends [1:13:30] of [1:13:30] VP [1:13:30] Sarah [1:13:30] and [1:13:30] alumni [1:13:31] of [1:13:31] San [1:13:31] Sebastian [1:13:32] College [1:13:32] of [1:13:32] Law [1:13:32] including [1:13:34] Assistant [1:13:35] Special [1:13:36] Prosecutor [1:13:36] Ryan [1:13:37] Ray [1:13:37] Kilala [1:13:38] of [1:13:38] the [1:13:38] Office [1:13:38] of [1:13:38] the [1:13:38] Ombudsman [1:13:39] and [1:13:40] his [1:13:40] wife [1:13:40] Aurea [1:13:41] Fortuna [1:13:42] Kilala [1:13:43] A [1:13:45] screenshot [1:13:45] of [1:13:45] one of [1:13:46] ECP's [1:13:46] videoconference [1:13:47] meetings [1:13:48] where [1:13:48] Sarah [1:13:48] and [1:13:48] Attorney [1:13:49] Ryan [1:13:49] were [1:13:49] present [1:13:49] is [1:13:50] here [1:13:51] to [1:13:51] attach [1:13:51] as [1:13:51] Annex [1:13:52] B [1:13:52] I [1:13:53] thought [1:13:53] of [1:13:54] Attorney [1:13:54] Reynold [1:13:55] Monsayak [1:13:55] wearing [1:13:55] an [1:13:56] Inday [1:13:56] Sarah [1:13:56] is [1:13:57] my [1:13:57] president [1:13:57] is [1:13:57] here [1:13:58] to [1:13:58] attach [1:13:59] as [1:13:59] Annex [1:13:59] B [1:14:00] 1 [1:14:01] 35 [1:14:02] I [1:14:03] got [1:14:03] close [1:14:04] with [1:14:04] Attorney [1:14:04] Ryan [1:14:05] who [1:14:06] was [1:14:06] previously [1:14:06] a [1:14:06] professor [1:14:07] of [1:14:07] Sarah [1:14:07] and [1:14:08] former [1:14:08] associate [1:14:09] dean [1:14:09] of [1:14:09] SSC [1:14:10] law [1:14:10] he [1:14:11] shared [1:14:12] with [1:14:12] me [1:14:12] that [1:14:12] Sarah [1:14:12] was [1:14:13] not [1:14:13] particularly [1:14:13] good [1:14:14] in [1:14:14] school [1:14:15] was [1:14:16] often [1:14:17] struggling [1:14:17] with [1:14:18] her [1:14:18] academics [1:14:18] and [1:14:19] habitually [1:14:19] rude [1:14:20] and [1:14:21] violent [1:14:21] to [1:14:21] other [1:14:22] students [1:14:22] hence [1:14:23] Attorney [1:14:24] Ryan [1:14:24] used [1:14:25] his [1:14:25] influence [1:14:26] in [1:14:26] San [1:14:26] Sebastian [1:14:27] College [1:14:27] of [1:14:27] Law [1:14:27] to [1:14:28] ensure [1:14:29] that [1:14:29] Sarah [1:14:29] received [1:14:30] passing [1:14:30] grades [1:14:31] despite [1:14:31] her poor [1:14:32] academic [1:14:33] performance [1:14:34] 36 [1:14:35] Attorney [1:14:36] Ryan [1:14:37] and [1:14:37] his [1:14:37] wife [1:14:37] became [1:14:38] quite [1:14:38] close [1:14:38] to [1:14:38] me [1:14:39] and [1:14:39] my [1:14:39] family [1:14:39] that [1:14:40] they [1:14:40] agreed [1:14:40] to [1:14:40] serve [1:14:40] as [1:14:41] godparents [1:14:42] in [1:14:42] my [1:14:42] son's [1:14:43] wedding [1:14:43] a [1:14:44] pot of [1:14:45] attorney [1:14:45] Ryan [1:14:45] and [1:14:46] Rhea [1:14:46] taken [1:14:46] during [1:14:47] my [1:14:48] son's [1:14:48] wedding [1:14:48] is [1:14:49] here [1:14:49] to [1:14:49] attach [1:14:50] as [1:14:50] Annex [1:14:50] C [1:14:51] shortly [1:14:52] after [1:14:53] we [1:14:53] organized [1:14:53] ISIP [1:14:54] I [1:14:54] was [1:14:54] informed [1:14:54] by [1:14:55] PRRD [1:14:55] that [1:14:55] funding [1:14:56] will [1:14:56] be [1:14:56] made [1:14:56] available [1:14:57] for [1:14:57] the [1:14:57] activities [1:14:58] of [1:14:59] ISIP [1:14:59] through [1:15:00] the [1:15:00] contribution [1:15:01] of [1:15:01] his [1:15:02] friends [1:15:02] and [1:15:02] supporters [1:15:03] one [1:15:04] of [1:15:04] those [1:15:05] friends [1:15:05] and [1:15:05] supporters [1:15:06] is [1:15:06] Lin [1:15:07] Wei [1:15:07] Zhong [1:15:08] who [1:15:08] was [1:15:09] the [1:15:09] financial [1:15:09] officer [1:15:10] of [1:15:11] Parmally [1:15:11] Pharmaceuticals [1:15:12] sometime [1:15:14] in June [1:15:15] or [1:15:15] July [1:15:15] 2021 [1:15:16] PRRD [1:15:17] informed [1:15:17] me [1:15:17] that [1:15:18] someone [1:15:18] will [1:15:18] call [1:15:18] me [1:15:19] to [1:15:19] directly [1:15:20] coordinate [1:15:20] the [1:15:20] turnover [1:15:21] of [1:15:21] 175 [1:15:21] million [1:15:22] to [1:15:23] fund [1:15:23] ISIP [1:15:24] organizing [1:15:24] efforts [1:15:25] promotional [1:15:26] and [1:15:26] campaign [1:15:26] activities [1:15:27] thereafter [1:15:28] a man [1:15:29] called [1:15:29] me [1:15:30] to [1:15:30] proceed [1:15:30] to [1:15:30] the [1:15:30] basement [1:15:31] parking [1:15:31] of [1:15:31] Seda [1:15:32] Hotel [1:15:32] Quezon [1:15:32] City [1:15:33] to [1:15:33] pick [1:15:33] up [1:15:34] the [1:15:34] said [1:15:34] amount [1:15:35] thus [1:15:36] I [1:15:36] hurriedly [1:15:36] went [1:15:37] to [1:15:37] the [1:15:37] place [1:15:37] with [1:15:38] my [1:15:38] cousin [1:15:38] Rosenda [1:15:39] Madriaga [1:15:39] as I [1:15:41] recall [1:15:41] the [1:15:42] money [1:15:42] was [1:15:42] placed [1:15:43] inside [1:15:44] several [1:15:45] large [1:15:45] backpacks [1:15:46] and [1:15:46] bags [1:15:46] which [1:15:47] were [1:15:47] handed [1:15:47] to [1:15:47] me [1:15:48] at [1:15:48] basement [1:15:49] of [1:15:49] parking [1:15:49] of [1:15:50] Seda [1:15:50] Hotel [1:15:51] Quezon 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