‘He’s having a stroke’: Jill Biden breaks silence on Biden debate disaster

[0:00] were you horrified as you saw it unfold i wasn't horrified i was frightened because i had never [0:09] ever seen joe like that before or since never since yes or never seen never no what happened [0:22] i don't know what happened i mean when i as i watched it i thought oh my god he's having a [0:26] stroke and it scared me to death um so a little bit more of that on sunday um but dr jill biden [0:37] said again she hadn't seen anything since then i mean there are other reports about concerns about [0:44] his age but our president right now is about to turn 80. um what do you make of this explanation [0:52] coming out at this time some are saying it took too long to say something it seems like there's [0:58] always a criticism she's got a book out so that's why she's talking about it now but i mean a lot of [1:03] people john saw signs before a lot of people privately after and after certainly before and [1:09] after but certainly went and said okay we don't think he should run again he did the job in 2020 [1:15] he defeated donald trump that is a historic moment for the country for the democratic party time to [1:20] step aside a lot of that is revisionist history in 2020 being hindsight but i think dr biden may [1:27] have been alone in thinking that no one had seen anything before or since yeah certainly there [1:32] were many democrats who thought if biden had walked away after the 2022 midterms if he announced that [1:36] he was going to not run again because he had a very successful first two years and democrats did [1:40] really well in those midterms he would have really gone out on a valedictorian note he did not and we [1:44] should note of course that after that debate it took the president almost three more weeks before he [1:49] did bow out of the race that they tried to stay in and john heilman i just this is an added to the list of [1:54] things the democrats right now don't want to talk about uh i mean we had the dnc autopsy last week [2:00] come out and sort of again rip off the scab of 2024 now we have we have this you know i think i heard [2:07] from a couple democrats yesterday who have great goodwill toward the bidens for a life of public service [2:13] but are just like you know the party needs to turn the page right now looking back to 2024 [2:19] only hurts our efforts to turn ahead to 26 and to 28. yeah jonathan i you know look you can't on some [2:29] level you can't begrudge uh the first lady from writing a book um you know people are entitled to [2:36] do that um uh but but i i i say that in the sense that you can't begrudge her but it's it's not none of [2:44] this every time these these the discussions about the joe biden phenomenon come up it does create this [2:50] agita in the party and you know your point about the autopsy is that you know that the the the if [2:57] you want to get a sense of how much this still is an issue within the democratic party is you have to [3:04] look at that autopsy and and realize that although it was all the kind of uh controversy about was it [3:09] going to come out wasn't it going to come out what was going to be in it what was not going to be in it [3:12] and the one thing that was not in it was a was a just candid discussion about the what a lot of [3:20] people see as the fundamental problem with uh kamala harris's campaign which is that it started too late [3:26] because the party uh had a hard time moving on from joe biden and so it's kind of like it's the [3:31] elephant in the room that the party still hasn't really expiated or or come to terms with that with [3:37] that debate there's still people out there including people around joe biden like like mike donnell and who [3:42] say it was a mistake we should have kept him at the top of the ticket and he would have beaten [3:45] donald trump and in so many ways things are going so well for the democratic party right now [3:50] this is one of the things that continues to haunt it and so i say i don't you don't blame jill [3:55] biden for writing the book i'm glad she's being candid at least about what she saw in the moment [3:59] but is it helpful in the law in the long term to the party moving past uh this issue or coming to [4:05] terms with it i don't see that you can say that it is helpful um because the party still is kind of [4:11] tied up in knots over over joe biden and and and how it dealt with with him and his presidency [4:16] at a moment when it really mattered in 2024 and her reaction is so different in that interview [4:22] than her reaction in real time because all of us watched two years ago what jill biden said the [4:27] following day after that debate she said joe you did so great you answered all the questions it was [4:32] almost like condescending but she was trying to buck him up and and praise him and in reality her [4:37] reaction was she was horrified like everybody else was and i understand political spin but the denialism [4:44] in the biden family and the biden inner circle is on vivid display now when you have two years later [4:49] her say of course it was terrible i thought he was having a stroke well that's not what you said not [4:54] only in the hours after in the almost month that it took your husband to come to terms with the fact [4:59] that his career was over she couldn't say that in real time if he was going to continue to run she [5:04] could you know she could have done but you know she could have done privately is said it's time it's [5:08] it right it's over right and she could have told him that the next day or the next week it took almost [5:12] a month for him to drop out duration jonathan lamere that everybody was stuck in in the biden circle [5:18] um and and i you know felt this way too that his accomplishments in the presidency [5:23] were were greater in number positive accomplishments than most presidents in the modern age in terms of [5:32] what he got done he was an effective president and i think there was that that crux that sort of [5:38] friction between all of his accomplishments and and the the the path he was setting the country on [5:45] and then obviously the optics of aging yeah i mean no question it's a robust set of accomplishments [5:50] his democrats compare it to what's going on today yeah of course and in aid there are many biden [5:56] not even close biden aids very frustrated that they think his four years are now defined by [6:00] that one moment or by the choice exactly to run it to run but the choice to run again [6:03] frustration yeah the choice to run again is something that obviously some people very close [6:07] to biden regret others still say no it was the right decision we should afford toward we should [6:11] also just note president biden is working on his own book right about what happened release date [6:16] unclear if that'll be later this year or sometime next