Hasan Scraps with Chris Christie

[0:00] Let's pivot to something that's less spicy. [0:01] Let's talk politics. [0:02] Yeah. [0:02] You stuck with Donald Trump through the Saudis, [0:04] obstructing the Mueller investigation, [0:06] asking Ukraine for dirt on Biden, [0:08] pardoning Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, and Charles Kushner, [0:11] who you put in prison. [0:12] You want to go back and, you know, [0:13] cherry pick some of that stuff, that's fine. [0:15] I know who I am and I know what I've stood for. [0:18] Why should we believe any of your critiques [0:20] of Donald Trump then? [0:21] And Doge was completely ineffective. [0:23] It was all bullsh**. [0:26] I mean, USAID is dead. [0:27] Don't change the question now. [0:28] I'm saying I've gone through breakups [0:29] that had a longer gap. [0:31] When you use 2020 as a broad 365-day program there, [0:35] get real about your research, okay? [0:37] But governor, isn't that how a year works? [0:39] No, it's not. [0:39] You're proving your point [0:40] that you can't win arguments with a lawyer. [0:42] I told you guys, this guy will scrap. [0:44] My man will scrap. [0:46] Former New Jersey governor Chris Christie [0:48] is not afraid to scrap. [0:49] And even though, as you will see in this interview, [0:51] we disagree on a lot. [0:52] This is the problem with your view of politics. [0:55] Okay. [0:55] I genuinely respect his willingness [0:57] to come on here and duke it out. [0:58] Now, I know what some of you are thinking. [1:00] Hassan, why are you even having Chris Christie on your show? [1:04] He was the first elected official [1:05] to endorse Donald Trump in 2016. [1:07] He made millions off his political connections [1:09] after leaving public office. [1:11] And he was caught sunbathing on a beach [1:14] with his family that was closed for COVID in 2020. [1:17] That is not true. [1:19] Don't jump to conclusions. [1:21] He was the first elected official [1:22] to endorse Donald Trump in 2016. [1:23] Yes, he did make millions of dollars [1:25] off his political connections [1:26] after leaving public office. [1:27] And he was caught sunbathing on a beach [1:29] with his family that was closed [1:30] for a government shutdown in 2017. [1:34] Not COVID in 2020. [1:37] Look it up. [1:37] Everyone remembers this wrong. [1:40] In all seriousness, [1:41] I have been trying to get Chris Christie [1:42] on this show for two years [1:44] because I am fascinated by his battle [1:46] to get the Republican Party [1:48] back to what it was before Donald Trump. [1:51] A Republican Party that some might say [1:53] created the conditions that led to Donald Trump. [1:56] But he disagrees. [1:58] So we talked it out. [1:59] And I asked him why, [2:00] if his party is so bad, [2:01] he doesn't just bail. [2:03] Is there anything that would make you vote [2:04] for a Democrat? [2:08] And I asked him straight up [2:09] whether Republican voters [2:10] even want what he's selling. [2:12] Do you think the Republican voters [2:13] want the truth? [2:14] You know what forces people [2:15] to have to listen to the truth? [2:16] Losing. [2:17] We also talked about his pivotal role [2:19] in a Supreme Court case [2:20] that unleashed the wave of gambling [2:21] and gambling addiction [2:23] we are now seeing across the country. [2:25] I have not taken any money [2:26] from any sports gambling website. [2:28] Do you have anything you'd like to disclose? [2:30] No. [2:31] Hey, life's more fun [2:33] when you're in on the action. [2:41] Lawmakers are fighting [2:42] to stop the Trump administration's [2:43] dismantling of a $386 million [2:46] Ocean Observatory project. [2:49] This project has been collecting data [2:50] on ocean circulation, [2:51] marine ecosystems, [2:52] and extreme weather patterns [2:53] for the last decade. [2:55] Donald Trump wants to scale back [2:56] the initiative by 55%, [2:57] removing many of the system's instruments, [3:00] leaving coastal communities vulnerable [3:01] and impacting our ability [3:02] to monitor El Nino. [3:04] Just another day in paradise, folks. [3:06] I read about this farce [3:07] on Ground News, [3:08] HMDK's favorite [3:10] independent news platform. [3:11] Ground News shows a breakdown [3:12] of publications reporting [3:13] on a story [3:14] in which way each tends [3:16] to lean politically. [3:17] It's not about completely [3:18] eliminating bias. [3:19] We all have our biases, [3:21] but Ground News helps us [3:22] see more of the whole picture, [3:24] making us more informed [3:25] consumers of the news. [3:26] I was not surprised to see [3:27] that very few right-leaning publications [3:29] were reporting on the story. [3:31] Dare I say it's because [3:31] it makes Donald Trump [3:32] look like a bumbling oaf? [3:34] But hey, [3:35] that's just my interpretation. [3:36] Let's cut through [3:37] the noise together. [3:38] Go to groundnews.com [3:39] slash husson [3:39] to subscribe and get 40% off [3:42] the unlimited access vantage plan, [3:43] which breaks down [3:44] to just five bucks a month [3:45] with my discount. [3:46] That's groundnews.com [3:48] slash husson. [3:49] Now you were instrumental [3:50] in the legalization [3:52] of sports betting, [3:52] so I want to see [3:53] how good of a gambler [3:54] that you are. [3:54] I would like to play [3:56] a game called [3:58] Yes, [3:59] The Odds. [4:00] What do you think [4:01] the chances [4:03] that the U.S. government [4:03] confirms that aliens [4:05] do exist [4:06] by December 31st? [4:09] I think it's 5%. [4:12] Wrong. [4:13] Polymarket odds [4:15] are 16%. [4:16] 16? [4:17] By the way, [4:18] I want to just... [4:18] Still not great. [4:19] By the way, [4:20] Governor, [4:20] I want to just establish this. [4:21] Real people are betting on this. [4:23] So these are real odds [4:24] that we pulled [4:24] from Polymarket. [4:25] And isn't that disturbing? [4:26] Yes. [4:26] Yeah, quite. [4:28] Yeah, you're seeing [4:28] the larger social commentary here. [4:29] Okay, now this is a fastball [4:31] down the middle [4:31] for you, Governor. [4:32] Okay, we'll get ready. [4:33] Who will be [4:33] the 2028 Republican nominee [4:36] for president? [4:37] Give me a name. [4:38] This is who [4:39] Polymarket thinks it will be. [4:40] People on Polymarket [4:42] are betting. [4:43] I'm going to say [4:43] Polymarket right now [4:45] is saying Marco Rubio. [4:46] Marco Rubio's [4:47] in second place. [4:47] Okay. [4:48] Number one is [4:49] J.D. Vance [4:49] at 37%. [4:51] Where's Marco? [4:52] Marco is number two [4:53] at 25%. [4:55] I'm a little surprised [4:55] by that. [4:56] Really? [4:56] You thought it'd be higher? [4:57] I thought Marco's [4:57] stock was rising right now. [4:59] But maybe he was [5:01] a lot lower than 25% before. [5:03] Who knows? [5:03] Number three, [5:04] Tucker Carlson [5:05] at 6%. [5:05] Oh, please stop. [5:06] That's ridiculous. [5:07] 6%! [5:07] Those are people [5:07] who just want to give money away. [5:09] They're betting on Tucker Carlson [5:11] to be the Republican nominee? [5:12] With all due respect, Governor. [5:13] Why don't you just throw [5:14] your money in the fireplace? [5:16] I mean, seriously, [5:17] Tucker Carlson? [5:18] Tucker Carlson at 6%. [5:18] With all due respect, Governor, [5:20] anyone who's on Polymarket [5:21] is throwing their money away. [5:21] Yeah. [5:22] Donald Trump is at 2%. [5:23] And by the way, [5:24] that's Donald Trump's money. [5:25] He has actually, [5:26] he bet on himself. [5:27] Let's talk about the other side. [5:28] Who will be the 2028 [5:30] Democratic nominee for president? [5:32] Who does Polymarket say? [5:33] Who is Polymarket saying [5:34] that this person [5:35] will be the top candidate? [5:37] Polymarket probably says [5:39] Gavin Newsom. [5:42] You are correct. [5:42] Gavin Newsom at 24%. [5:44] There you go. [5:45] Kamala Harris. [5:46] More wasted money, by the way. [5:48] You don't think [5:48] he's going to be the nominee? [5:49] I do not. [5:50] Who do you think he's going to be? [5:50] I'll go down the list. [5:51] Who do you think? [5:52] It's not going to be [5:53] Kamala Harris. [5:53] Kamala Harris is at 9%. [5:54] Yeah, no. [5:55] AOC is at 8%. [5:56] No. [5:57] Mr. Beast is at 1%. [5:58] Mr. Beast, he's got a shot. [5:59] We're in agreement. [6:00] I actually think [6:00] Mr. Beast should be higher. [6:02] I think he would think [6:02] that's the greatest heist [6:03] he could pull off. [6:04] Talk about the virality [6:05] of that YouTube video. [6:05] Yeah. [6:06] I will be running [6:07] for president [6:07] of the United States of America. [6:09] It's going to get a lot of views. [6:10] Look, it's the way people felt [6:11] in 2015 [6:12] when Donald Trump [6:12] came down the escalator. [6:13] Totally. [6:13] So, you know, [6:14] Mr. Beast is not out of play. [6:16] Anything is possible. [6:16] Yeah. [6:18] We're talking about gambling. [6:19] Back when you were governor, [6:20] you fought a federal ban [6:21] on sports betting [6:22] and took it all the way [6:23] to the Supreme Court. [6:25] Now we're having this conversation [6:26] in 2026. [6:27] It is now legal [6:27] in 39 states. [6:29] Yes. [6:29] Now, as a member [6:30] of the Sports Betting Hall of Fame, [6:32] I am. [6:33] Do you feel like the industry [6:34] has had a net positive impact [6:36] on sports fans, [6:38] sports teams, [6:38] and society at large? [6:39] On sports fans, [6:41] yes, [6:41] because I think [6:42] that you have more of them. [6:44] More people are watching sports, [6:46] interested in sports [6:47] because they can put [6:48] a little money on it. [6:49] And I think that they generally, [6:51] in most of them, [6:51] not all, [6:52] but most of them enjoy it more [6:53] because they have a little action [6:55] and they feel like [6:56] they're part of it. [6:57] For sports teams, [6:59] I would say [6:59] it has been great [7:01] for the sports team's owners [7:02] because it's increased [7:04] the value of those teams. [7:05] Oh, wait, [7:06] can I just stop you real quick? [7:07] I just have to stop [7:07] for a quick ad break real quick. [7:08] Is that the way you make money? [7:09] Yeah, yeah, [7:09] that's how we make money. [7:10] All right, well, go ahead. [7:11] This episode of HMDK [7:12] is brought to you [7:13] by DraftKings. [7:14] Play now to win big prizes [7:16] and elevate your game day experience [7:18] with DraftKings. 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[8:01] So, I mean, [8:02] obviously you know [8:02] that the commissioner [8:03] with this Chauncey Billups story, [8:05] with a lot of the gambling stuff [8:07] that's happening, [8:07] he's in quite a hullabaloo right now [8:09] and a tizzy [8:10] with what's happening right now. [8:11] You've also seen the footage [8:12] of people at games [8:13] screaming at the players. [8:14] Yeah. [8:15] You fucked up my parlay, [8:17] pardon my French governor. [8:17] Yeah. [8:18] What are your thoughts on this? [8:20] Look, [8:20] I think there were plenty of people [8:21] who were doing that before too. [8:23] And on the Chauncey Billups stuff, [8:25] what I would say to you [8:26] is that the stuff [8:27] that went on in the NBA, [8:29] stuff that went on in MLB [8:30] with the players who were, [8:32] had people betting [8:33] whether they would throw a strike [8:34] or not on a particular pitch. [8:35] You wouldn't have found out about that [8:37] if it wasn't for legalized gambling. [8:39] Because, you know, [8:40] it wasn't like the mafia [8:41] was going to call the MLB [8:43] and say, [8:44] hey, by the way, [8:44] this relief pitcher from the Indians, [8:46] you know, [8:46] or the Guardians rather, [8:48] you know, [8:48] is in on the game here. [8:51] So I think it actually- [8:52] You mentioned this before [8:52] that it being on these apps [8:54] kind of basically put it [8:57] in the blockchain. [8:58] It's documented. [8:59] Yes. [8:59] And it increases the likelihood [9:01] that you're going to be able [9:02] to discover it [9:03] because they have [9:04] an affirmative obligation [9:05] legally, [9:06] regulatorily [9:07] to watch for unusual betting. [9:09] Yes. [9:10] And to report it [9:10] both to law enforcement [9:11] and to the league. [9:12] So at the time [9:13] when you took this case [9:14] to the Supreme Court, [9:14] it went all the way [9:15] to the Supreme Court. [9:16] Yep. [9:16] What was your thinking [9:17] behind the repealing of the ban [9:19] on sports betting? [9:19] Well, first off, [9:20] remember that back then [9:23] when it went, [9:24] when we started the lawsuit, [9:26] it was 2012. [9:28] Yep. [9:28] And the idea that everybody [9:30] would have a betting app [9:31] on their phone [9:31] was not even conceived of yet, [9:34] right? [9:34] So what I was thinking was [9:37] Atlantic City was getting [9:39] a lot of competition [9:40] from casino gambling [9:41] around the country. [9:42] I was looking for a way [9:43] to differentiate Atlantic City [9:44] from all these other new casinos. [9:46] So I said, [9:47] let's get sports gambling [9:48] in New Jersey [9:48] at the casinos. [9:50] That was the original thought. [9:51] It obviously evolved [9:52] over the six years [9:53] that the case went on, [9:55] but that was the original thought, [9:56] was we wanted to make [9:58] something different [9:59] in the Atlantic City casinos [10:00] to try to draw more people there. [10:03] Gambling looked very different [10:04] in the 90s. [10:04] It looked very different [10:05] in the 2000s, [10:06] the early aughts. [10:07] You're talking about 2012. [10:10] What do you think about it now? [10:11] I mean, 2026 gambling, [10:12] you now have a pocket bookie [10:15] where you can gamble [10:17] 24 hours a day, [10:18] seven days a week. [10:18] So it's not even just [10:21] the small time Goodfellas [10:23] mob stuff anymore. [10:24] You are now [10:25] in every person's pocket [10:26] the moment they wake up. [10:28] You are, and I think that [10:29] any concerns that people [10:31] have had about it, [10:32] a lot of them have been addressed [10:33] by dealing with [10:35] not allowing people [10:37] to use credit cards anymore. [10:38] So you can't run up debt [10:39] to go on at least [10:41] the regulated websites, right? [10:43] So you've got to have cash [10:45] to be able to do it. [10:46] Yeah. [10:47] So I think that makes it better. [10:50] So I'm less concerned [10:51] about that than I was [10:53] in the beginning of it [10:54] when people were able [10:55] to use credit cards [10:56] to put money on there [10:57] and then they're paying [10:58] incredible interest rates [10:59] on that money [11:00] on their credit card. [11:01] That could create [11:02] a huge problem for people. [11:03] I think now that they've [11:04] gotten rid of that, [11:05] I'd also like to see, [11:06] you know, parlays [11:09] and those kind of betting [11:11] go away in college sports. [11:12] Yeah. [11:13] I think when you have [11:14] young people on campus [11:16] betting on it [11:16] and then they're in, [11:17] you know, physics class [11:19] with the guy [11:20] or the woman the next day, [11:22] there's much more interaction [11:23] between those folks [11:24] than with the pro athletes. [11:26] I mean, I'll be honest, [11:26] Governor, the thing [11:28] that concerns me the most [11:29] and for my generation, [11:30] I think it's the virality [11:31] of Vice. [11:32] You know, back in the day [11:33] you used to have, [11:34] you had your corner, [11:35] you know, drugs, [11:36] drug guy, right? [11:37] He's your local weed dealer. [11:39] At no point [11:40] did they make drugs [11:44] available on an app. [11:46] Do you have sympathy [11:48] for the people [11:49] that struggle now [11:50] with gambling addiction? [11:51] Oh, of course. [11:52] Yeah. [11:52] As I do with people [11:54] who struggle [11:54] for any type of addiction, [11:55] whether it be drugs [11:57] or alcohol. [11:59] And I worked on that [11:59] a lot when I was governor. [12:00] So yeah, [12:01] but I think [12:01] in the same token, [12:03] we're not saying [12:04] that we're going to ban alcohol. [12:06] We tried that once [12:06] in the country, [12:07] didn't work so well. [12:08] So what we have to do [12:09] is to try to deal [12:09] with the people [12:10] who have addictive personalities, [12:12] get them the treatment [12:12] they need [12:13] so that they can get through it. [12:14] And the other thing [12:15] I'd say about the idea [12:17] of the vice virality, [12:21] as you put it. [12:22] The virality of vice. [12:23] Yeah. [12:23] So, you know, [12:25] we see it with porn also [12:26] and the ability [12:28] for people [12:28] to get that online now, [12:30] I think is [12:31] an even bigger problem, [12:33] you know, [12:33] in many ways [12:34] than gambling. [12:34] Right now, [12:35] a Siena poll shows [12:36] that half of men [12:37] age 18 to 49 [12:38] now have an active [12:39] online sports betting account. [12:41] A 2024 study [12:42] found that [12:43] over 700,000 gamblers [12:45] found that [12:46] only 4% of them [12:48] actually made money [12:49] from online betting [12:50] while 96% lost money. [12:53] Knowing what you know now, [12:54] would you go back [12:54] and push a button [12:55] and undo that case [12:56] in 2012? [12:57] No. [12:58] Why? [12:59] No, because I still think [13:00] that more people [13:01] use it responsibly, [13:03] more people are finding [13:04] enjoyment out of it, [13:05] much more of it. [13:05] And the statistics just read, [13:07] okay, so 49% of young men [13:09] between 18 and 49 [13:11] have an account. [13:13] We don't have the correlation [13:14] of are they becoming [13:15] addictive gamblers? [13:16] Are they losing [13:17] too much money? [13:18] A lot of people [13:19] that I know [13:20] bet small amounts of money. [13:22] They have fun with it. [13:23] They compete [13:24] with their friends. [13:25] I think it's an overreaction. [13:27] Also, I just want to do this. [13:28] I just want to give you [13:29] full disclosure right now. [13:30] That ad read that I did [13:31] for DraftKings, [13:32] that's not a real ad. [13:33] Of course. [13:33] Okay? [13:34] I have not taken any money [13:35] from DraftKings. [13:36] I have not taken any money [13:37] from any sports gambling website. [13:39] I'm a practicing Muslim. [13:40] I do not take money [13:41] from gambling platforms. [13:43] Do you have anything [13:43] you'd like to disclose? [13:45] No. [13:49] Because life's more fun [13:49] when you're in on the action. [13:51] Isn't that right, Governor? [13:52] That's exactly right. [13:54] Because I remember shortly [13:55] after you left [13:57] being governor [13:58] in New Jersey. [13:59] Yes. [13:59] You became an advisor [14:00] to DraftKings. [14:01] Oh, yeah, sure. [14:03] All right, let's pivot [14:03] to something that's less spicy. [14:05] Let's talk about something [14:05] that'll unite the room. [14:06] Let's talk about politics. [14:07] Yeah. [14:07] Now, you've gone hard [14:08] in the paint [14:09] against Donald Trump. [14:10] You have said [14:11] that the president [14:11] is a bitter, angry man, [14:13] undisciplined, [14:14] immature, narcissistic, [14:15] a certified loser, [14:17] a verified coward, [14:18] and the cheapest SOB [14:20] I've ever met in my life. [14:22] However, [14:23] Right. [14:24] Here's the twist. [14:25] You were the first [14:25] elected official [14:26] to endorse him in 2016. [14:28] Donald Trump revealing [14:29] his newest weapon today, [14:31] Governor Chris Christie, [14:32] and the surprise endorsement, [14:33] saying he's now behind [14:34] Trump for president. [14:36] I am proud to be here [14:37] to endorse Donald Trump [14:38] for president of the United States. [14:39] I know people in the comments [14:40] will ask this, [14:41] so I'm just going to ask you. [14:44] Why should we believe [14:46] any of your critiques [14:46] of Donald Trump then? [14:47] Because the critiques [14:48] happened after that, [14:49] not before it. [14:51] I got to know him much better, [14:53] and I came to a different conclusion [14:54] than what my opinion [14:56] of him was in 2016. [14:57] Pre-2016, [14:59] he was none of those things, [15:00] the Donald Trump that you know. [15:01] Oh, I didn't say he was. [15:02] He was some of those things [15:03] and not some of the other ones, [15:04] but quite frankly, [15:05] you know, [15:07] what I did at the time [15:08] is what people normally [15:09] do in politics, [15:09] which is you run. [15:11] If you lose, [15:12] you try to help the person [15:13] who gets the nomination [15:14] for your party, [15:16] and that's what I tried to do. [15:17] And by the way, [15:18] I admitted I was wrong. [15:19] So, you know, [15:20] people make mistakes. [15:21] It was a mistake to support him, [15:23] but, you know, [15:24] it wasn't the only mistake [15:25] I've made in my life, [15:26] and it won't be the last one. [15:27] You know, look, [15:28] I appreciate your transparency here. [15:29] Here's the thing [15:30] that doesn't make sense to me. [15:31] So you went on Hannity [15:32] in April of 2021. [15:34] This is after January 6th. [15:36] Yeah. [15:37] And Sean asked you, [15:38] on the air, [15:39] what grade would you give Donald Trump? [15:41] Do you know what grade you gave him? [15:44] Well, what was the question? [15:45] Grade for what? [15:46] What grade would you give [15:47] the president [15:48] in regards to his performance [15:50] as president? [15:52] Yeah, [15:53] I probably gave him [15:54] A minus, B plus. [15:55] You said overall, [15:56] I'd give the president [15:57] an A. [15:59] Right. [16:01] We're talking about Viking dude [16:02] breaking in [16:03] to the office. [16:04] That's not what we were talking about. [16:06] We're talking about dudes [16:07] parkouring [16:07] through the Senate chambers. [16:09] It wasn't what we... [16:09] We're talking about a guy [16:10] pissing on Nancy Pelosi's desk. [16:11] This is fun, [16:12] but it wasn't what [16:12] we were talking about. [16:14] It wasn't. [16:14] You're talking about [16:15] his presidential performance. [16:16] Correct. [16:16] But that's part of it. [16:17] That's the exit interview [16:18] you could argue. [16:19] By the way, [16:20] that wasn't the question [16:21] that he asked me. [16:23] Overall, [16:23] how do you grade [16:24] Trump as president? [16:25] Oh, listen. [16:26] Overall, [16:26] I give the president [16:27] an A. [16:28] You know, [16:29] but the fact of the matter [16:30] is that [16:31] there were some things [16:32] that happened specifically [16:33] at the end of the presidency [16:35] that I think [16:36] had some things [16:37] that clouded [16:37] his accomplishments. [16:38] I'm a poli-sci major, [16:39] okay? [16:40] 60 units, [16:40] I'm not trying to brag. [16:41] Well, congratulations. [16:42] Okay. [16:43] Me too. [16:43] Now, one time [16:44] in political science class, [16:46] I didn't include [16:47] a bibliography on an essay [16:48] and they gave me a C plus. [16:50] Governor, [16:51] if I pissed [16:52] on my professor's desk, [16:53] there is no way [16:54] there is no way [16:56] I wouldn't not be arrested. [16:58] Right. [16:58] And that would be calculated [16:59] into the grade. [17:00] I don't know what [17:01] any of you [17:01] you're saying right now [17:02] has to do [17:03] with a question [17:03] that I got in 2021, [17:05] but continue on. [17:06] I'm saying [17:07] you have to include [17:08] the assessment of January 6th [17:10] into your overall assessment. [17:11] Look, [17:11] and I did [17:12] and I ran against him [17:14] in 2023 [17:15] and in 2024 [17:16] and I've been very clear [17:17] about the way I felt [17:18] about all the things [17:19] that he's done [17:20] in the interim as well. [17:21] So, [17:22] you want to go back [17:23] and, you know, [17:23] cherry pick some of that stuff. [17:24] That's fine. [17:25] I know who I am [17:26] and I know what I've stood for [17:27] and I've done things [17:28] that other Republicans [17:29] haven't even dreamed of doing. [17:31] Now, [17:31] a lot of people [17:32] in our audience, [17:33] they don't know this. [17:34] My sister's an attorney. [17:37] You also were an attorney. [17:38] You were the U.S. attorney [17:39] of the Department of Justice. [17:40] I was. [17:40] Okay. [17:41] Now, let me tell you something. [17:41] As someone with a younger sister [17:43] who's a lot smarter than him, [17:44] you don't want to argue [17:45] with a lawyer. [17:47] Okay? [17:47] I've lost many an argument [17:48] with my younger sister. [17:49] She goes hard in the paint, [17:50] but so do you. [17:51] Yeah. [17:51] Now, [17:52] you made your name [17:53] as an anti-corruption guy. [17:54] As a U.S. attorney, [17:55] you oversaw the convictions [17:56] of 130 public officials, [18:00] but you didn't fully break with Trump [18:02] until after the 2020 election. [18:04] So, [18:04] just to be clear, [18:05] as an anti-corruption guy, [18:06] you stuck with Donald Trump [18:07] through the Saudis, [18:09] shoveling money [18:09] into his hotels, [18:10] obstructing the Mueller investigation, [18:12] asking Ukraine [18:13] for dirt on Biden, [18:14] pardoning Roger Stone, [18:16] Steve Bannon, [18:16] and Charles Kushner, [18:18] who you put in prison. [18:19] By the way, [18:20] you know, [18:22] this is all fun, [18:23] but I spoke clearly out [18:25] about my opposition [18:26] to those pardons, [18:27] so, [18:28] and those pardons happened [18:29] right at the very end [18:30] of his presidency. [18:31] So, [18:32] don't say I stuck with him [18:33] through 2020. [18:33] In fact, [18:34] if you go back [18:35] to my commentary on ABC [18:36] on the night of the election [18:38] in 2020, [18:39] when the president came out [18:40] and said he thought [18:42] it was rigged, [18:43] all the rest of it, [18:44] I spoke out that day [18:45] very strongly [18:46] about the fact [18:47] that I couldn't support him [18:48] anymore because of that. [18:49] And I disagree [18:50] with what he did tonight. [18:51] There comes a point [18:52] where you have to let [18:54] the process play itself out [18:55] before you judge it [18:57] to have been flawed. [18:58] So, [18:58] when you use 2020 [18:59] as a broad 365-day [19:02] program there, [19:03] get real about your research, [19:05] okay? [19:05] Okay. [19:05] So, [19:06] that's not true. [19:06] But Governor, [19:06] isn't that how a year works? [19:07] A year works that way, though. [19:08] No, [19:08] no, [19:09] it's not. [19:09] So, [19:10] good try. [19:10] I think it does. [19:11] Good try. [19:12] You're proving your point [19:13] that you can't win arguments [19:14] with a lawyer. [19:14] Okay. [19:17] Understood. [19:18] You helped Donald Trump [19:19] prepare for his debate [19:20] against Hillary Clinton. [19:21] Is this true? [19:22] In 2016? [19:23] Yes. [19:23] Okay. [19:23] You also helped prep him [19:25] against Joe Biden [19:25] in that debate in 2020. [19:27] And frankly, [19:27] you didn't really have to [19:28] because I think [19:28] President Joe Biden [19:29] had dementia. [19:32] Here's my question. [19:33] Yeah. [19:33] Do you think [19:34] either of those two people [19:36] that I just mentioned, [19:37] Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden, [19:38] would have been more corrupt [19:39] than Donald Trump [19:40] had they won? [19:41] Look, [19:41] I think they both [19:42] had those problems. [19:43] But do I think [19:44] they would have been [19:44] more corrupt? [19:45] Probably not. [19:45] Why is there this [19:49] kind of Republican [19:51] false equivalency [19:51] between Donald Trump's [19:53] Scrooge McDuck [19:54] open skullduggery [19:57] and corruption [19:58] and then that gets compared [19:59] equal to [20:00] Hunter Biden laptop [20:02] or Hillary Clinton's emails? [20:05] Look, [20:06] you have to ask the Republicans [20:08] who've actually done that [20:09] and made that comparison. [20:11] I haven't. [20:12] How do you analyze it? [20:13] Do you see them [20:14] as wildly different things? [20:16] Look, [20:17] I think that all of them [20:18] have had their own problems. [20:19] And I think with Biden, [20:21] the stuff that was going on [20:22] with Hunter [20:23] was fairly open corruption. [20:27] Hunter Biden's paintings [20:28] being purchased [20:29] for hundreds of thousands [20:30] of dollars. [20:32] I'm no art critic. [20:33] Sure. [20:34] But it doesn't seem to me [20:35] that's the right thing to do. [20:36] Joe Biden pardoning [20:37] all the members of his family [20:39] on the way out the door [20:40] is going to set [20:41] a horrible precedent [20:42] for what we're going to see [20:44] that's going to happen [20:44] at the end of 2028. [20:46] So, you know, [20:48] I think there were a lot of things [20:49] that went on [20:49] in the Biden administration. [20:50] And to go back [20:51] to the Clintons, [20:52] there's lots of things [20:53] we could talk about [20:54] from selling the Lincoln bedroom [20:56] to a number of other acts [20:58] of corruption, [20:59] including the Mark Rich pardon [21:00] by Bill Clinton [21:02] that Hillary Clinton [21:04] was at least [21:06] an adjacent partner to. [21:08] So, you know, [21:09] we can compare [21:10] all those things. [21:11] They all probably- [21:11] Unsavory stuff all around. [21:13] Now, I think- [21:13] You've got to grade it though. [21:14] Look, [21:15] but I think that, [21:16] and I also think [21:17] that Trump corruption [21:18] term one [21:19] significantly different [21:21] than Trump corruption [21:22] term two. [21:24] Trump corruption term two [21:25] outstrips anything [21:27] that's been done [21:28] by any president [21:29] in the history of the country [21:30] in my opinion. [21:31] I agree. [21:31] So, it's all relative. [21:33] Look, I'm coming in hot, [21:35] but like I said, [21:36] as you walked in, [21:37] I got to give you your flowers. [21:38] You are a New Jersey scrapper. [21:40] And one of the things [21:41] that you've done [21:41] is you've gone hard [21:42] in the paint on tape. [21:43] Okay? [21:44] Yeah. [21:45] I want to play back [21:46] one of my favorite [21:46] Chris Christie moments. [21:48] Governor, [21:49] this is you [21:50] at the 2016 [21:50] Republican primary debate [21:52] when you body slammed [21:53] Marco Rubio. [21:54] Let's take a look. [21:55] But I would add this. [21:56] Let's dispel with this fiction [21:57] that Barack Obama [21:58] doesn't know what he's doing. [21:59] He knows exactly [22:00] what he's doing. [22:01] That's what Washington, [22:02] D.C. does. [22:03] The drive-by shot [22:04] at the beginning [22:05] with incorrect [22:05] and incomplete information [22:07] and then the memorized [22:08] 25-second speech [22:10] that is exactly [22:11] what his advisors gave him. [22:14] Your state got hit [22:15] by a massive snowstorm [22:16] two weeks ago. [22:16] You didn't even want [22:17] to go back. [22:17] They had to shame you [22:18] into going back. [22:19] And then you stayed there [22:20] for 36 hours [22:21] and then he left [22:22] and came back to campaign. [22:24] Those are the facts. [22:25] Here's the bottom line. [22:26] This notion that Barack Obama [22:27] doesn't know what he's doing [22:28] is just not true. [22:29] There it is. [22:29] He knows exactly [22:30] what he's doing. [22:30] The memorized [22:31] 25-second speech. [22:32] You called the audible. [22:34] You called the audible. [22:35] You're like, [22:35] I knew he was going to do it. [22:36] I knew he was going to do this. [22:36] When you do debates [22:38] the right way, [22:39] if you want to be successful, [22:41] they're about listening [22:42] and reacting. [22:43] And that's what Marco [22:44] never understood. [22:46] Yes. [22:46] And that man [22:47] that you just unloaded [22:48] the clip on, [22:50] he's now Secretary of State. [22:51] Yeah. [22:51] Oh, look. [22:53] One of my choice. [22:55] All right. [22:56] Governor, [22:57] here's the larger question. [22:58] There's a larger question? [22:59] Yes. [23:00] I even wrote this. [23:00] This is the larger question. [23:02] I can't wait. [23:02] No, this is it. [23:03] Is it in bigger print? [23:04] It's in bold, man. [23:05] Oh, well, here we go. [23:06] Well, I'm ready. [23:06] Let's go. [23:07] Governor, [23:07] do shame and humiliation [23:08] work? [23:10] Against Republicans. [23:11] Clearly, what you did here [23:12] is you called the play. [23:15] You told him [23:16] what he was going to do. [23:17] You told the audience [23:18] what he was going to do. [23:19] He then did it. [23:20] Audience boos him [23:22] in unison. [23:23] This should be [23:23] the body blow. [23:25] This should be [23:25] the down goes Frazier. [23:27] It was. [23:27] But it wasn't. [23:28] It was. [23:28] His campaign was over. [23:31] You're now talking [23:31] about eight years later. [23:33] Sure. [23:33] He gets appointed [23:34] by Donald Trump [23:35] to be Secretary of State. [23:37] It's not the job [23:38] he wanted. [23:38] He wanted Donald Trump's job. [23:40] So I would argue to you [23:41] that Frazier did go down. [23:44] He went down in that moment. [23:45] Yeah. [23:45] And by the way. [23:47] And then Don King called him [23:48] and said you should be [23:49] Secretary of State. [23:49] Well, and look, [23:51] that's his, [23:51] that's the guy [23:53] we elected president's call. [23:55] Yeah. [23:55] And I disagree with it, [23:56] but it is what it is. [23:57] Do you think it was brilliant [23:58] that Donald Trump, [23:59] you know, [23:59] from the get go, [24:00] he kind of pulled [24:00] what you did, [24:01] which is if I establish [24:02] the media [24:03] as the enemy of the people, [24:06] everything that's written [24:07] about him [24:08] or said about him [24:08] in the media, [24:09] he can be like, [24:10] I told you, [24:11] I told you guys [24:12] this was going to happen. [24:13] That's not working anymore. [24:14] You think so? [24:15] No, I, [24:16] you know, [24:16] just look at his poll numbers. [24:18] His poll numbers tell you [24:18] people aren't buying [24:19] the act anymore. [24:20] Hey man, [24:20] 70% of people [24:21] agree with his position. [24:22] In the Republican Party, [24:23] 70% of Republican voters [24:24] agree with his position [24:25] in the war with Iran. [24:26] They're in agreement. [24:27] Well, but the problem for him [24:28] is that not only Republicans vote. [24:32] What do you mean by that? [24:32] Not only Republicans vote. [24:34] Right. [24:34] So you have 70% of Republicans. [24:36] By the way, [24:37] that's down from where he was [24:38] after he got elected in 2024, [24:40] which is about 95% of Republicans. [24:42] So he's now lost, [24:44] you know, [24:44] almost a quarter of his, [24:46] or a little more than a quarter [24:47] of his support [24:48] within his own party. [24:49] And if you look at [24:50] the latest numbers [24:51] from the New York Times [24:52] Sienna poll that came out, [24:53] has him minus 61 [24:55] among independents. [24:56] Yeah. [24:56] You recently said [24:57] there are no principles [24:58] left in my party. [24:59] The only principle is Trump. [25:01] Here's my question. [25:02] Why are you still [25:03] in the party then? [25:04] Because I want to change the party. [25:05] I'm not a quitter. [25:06] You can switch up. [25:07] No, I'm not a quitter. [25:08] You can sign and trade. [25:09] No. [25:10] You can go through the transfer portal. [25:11] He changed the party. [25:12] I want to change it back. [25:13] Okay. [25:14] So let's look ahead post-Trump. [25:15] You want to fix the party [25:16] and change it back. [25:17] Yep. [25:18] Now, [25:18] what's left for you guys to do? [25:20] Because he's been very effective [25:21] while he's in office. [25:22] So far, [25:23] he has overturned Roe v. Wade, [25:24] affirmative action, [25:25] and most of the Voting Rights Act. [25:26] He cracked down on immigration. [25:28] He took a chainsaw [25:28] out of the bureaucracy. [25:29] He pushed through [25:29] a huge tax cut for the rich. [25:32] Let me tell you something. [25:33] I live in Connecticut. [25:34] People are happy. [25:35] He rolled back [25:37] climate change regulations. [25:38] So I would say [25:40] if I was head coach, [25:42] if I was like Mike Ditka [25:43] for the Republican Party, [25:44] I'd be like, [25:45] gentlemen, [25:45] we've already won. [25:46] What's left? [25:47] Pretty much, [25:48] you got to just abolish the IRS, [25:50] give nukes to the LAPD, [25:51] and then make people [25:52] stand for the national anthem [25:53] at AMC movie theaters. [25:55] It's an interesting [25:56] sense of humor you have, [25:57] but that's not, [25:58] first of all, [25:59] not all Republicans agree [26:00] with all the things [26:00] you just lined up. [26:02] And... [26:03] What do you disagree with? [26:04] Well, I don't remember [26:06] all the things [26:06] that you zipped through [26:07] in your very fast talk there. [26:09] So you want to bring him back? [26:11] Sure. [26:11] I'll answer him one by one. [26:13] Which ones do you want? [26:14] Which ones do you want to go to? [26:15] Should we go through the list? [26:16] I want to be respectful of time. [26:17] Scott, should we go through the list? [26:18] Okay. [26:19] Go ahead. [26:19] He always keeps me honest with time. [26:21] Overturn Roe v. Wade. [26:22] I favor that. [26:23] He ended affirmative action [26:24] and took it to the Supreme Court [26:25] and did affirmative action. [26:26] Yeah, I mean, [26:27] no, I don't agree [26:28] with his position on that. [26:31] No. [26:32] Okay. [26:32] They've gutted most [26:33] of the Voting Rights Act. [26:34] I don't agree with that. [26:35] I don't agree with what you said. [26:37] Crackdown on immigration. [26:38] Not the way he's done it, no. [26:39] Took a chainsaw [26:40] out of the bureaucracy. [26:41] He hasn't. [26:42] I mean... [26:43] That's just rhetoric. [26:45] He didn't do anything. [26:46] It's just talking about it. [26:47] You don't think Doge [26:48] was a chainsaw to the way D.C.? [26:50] Yeah, and Doge [26:50] was completely, [26:51] completely ineffective. [26:54] It was all bullshit. [26:56] But you admit [26:56] that it's insane, right? [26:57] That basically Elon Musk [26:59] and a bunch of like [27:00] 12 dudes on ketamine [27:01] pulled up [27:02] And by the way, [27:02] that's why it didn't work. [27:05] That's why it didn't work. [27:07] I mean, USAID is dead. [27:09] That's part of Doge. [27:10] If you call getting rid of USAID, [27:13] putting, [27:14] taking a chainsaw [27:15] to the bureaucracy, [27:16] I understand why you're doing it [27:17] because of Elon [27:18] with his chainsaw, [27:19] you know, [27:20] at the conservative conference. [27:21] But no, [27:23] it didn't work. [27:24] Ineffective. [27:25] Because what's happening to you [27:27] is that you're believing [27:28] all the stuff Trump says he did, [27:31] not what he really did. [27:33] And real people know [27:35] that it has a good effect. [27:36] We had a tool [27:36] on the show. [27:38] USAID is dead. [27:39] It's done. [27:39] But you didn't, [27:40] don't change the question now. [27:42] Okay. [27:43] Read the point you made. [27:43] Back to me. [27:44] Yeah, yeah. [27:44] Push, [27:44] took a chainsaw [27:45] to the bureaucracy. [27:47] One agency inside [27:48] a multi-trillion dollar [27:51] federal government, [27:52] I would argue to you, [27:53] is not taking a chainsaw [27:54] to the bureaucracy. [27:55] The bureaucracy is alive, [27:57] well, [27:57] living, [27:58] breathing, [27:58] and some would say thriving [27:59] because he's done [28:00] more deficit spending [28:01] than any president [28:03] in American history. [28:04] So, [28:05] but we don't talk about that [28:06] anymore as Republicans. [28:07] Got it. [28:08] Rolled back climate change [28:09] regulations? [28:11] He's done a couple of things, [28:12] but that's also been [28:13] more talk than due. [28:14] Well, [28:15] the Trump administration [28:15] announcing an immediate pause [28:18] on all large-scale [28:19] offshore wind projects. [28:21] The Environmental Protection Agency [28:23] has repealed [28:24] its own landmark [28:25] Obama-era assessment [28:26] that greenhouse gases [28:28] threaten public health [28:29] and welfare. [28:30] President Donald Trump [28:31] has halted [28:32] a Biden-era program [28:33] that helped fund [28:34] EV chargers. [28:35] The Trump administration [28:36] is planning to close [28:37] its largest federal [28:38] climate research center. [28:40] What else do you think [28:40] the Republican Party [28:41] needs to get done? [28:42] We have to get spending [28:43] under control. [28:44] Our debt is out of control, [28:45] completely out of control. [28:46] Both parties have contributed [28:47] to it, [28:48] but Trump has contributed [28:49] to more than anyone else. [28:51] And if we don't get [28:51] that under control, [28:53] the lives of our grandchildren [28:55] and great-grandchildren [28:56] will not be anywhere [28:56] near the lives [28:58] that you and I [28:58] have been able to have. [28:59] So that's one. [29:01] Okay. [29:01] I don't want to cut you off. [29:03] Well, look, [29:03] I could do a lot, [29:04] but I mean, [29:05] in respect for time, [29:06] I don't know how much [29:07] more you want me to do, [29:07] but our foreign policy [29:09] needs to change completely. [29:11] The wrecking of our alliances [29:13] around the world [29:14] is going to, [29:16] and absolutely inured [29:17] to our detriment [29:18] over the course [29:19] of the next decade or more [29:21] if we continue on that path. [29:23] I think what we've done, [29:25] what he's done [29:26] in this country [29:26] regarding civility [29:28] and the lack of civility [29:29] has now affected [29:30] not just the political system, [29:32] but more broadly [29:33] into everything else. [29:33] And you see that [29:34] throughout the country [29:35] where families [29:36] can't even have conversations [29:37] about political issues, [29:38] many around the kitchen table [29:41] or the holiday table [29:42] because people have been taught [29:44] that the way to do that [29:46] is to just, [29:47] you know, [29:47] take out the meat axe [29:48] and take it to your relative. [29:50] Yeah. [29:51] You know, [29:51] that's something [29:52] I'd love to see changed. [29:52] I agree on one of those two. [29:53] I do believe that [29:55] the United States' position [29:56] on the international stage [29:58] is absolutely abysmal, [29:59] but I will say [30:00] families have always been arguing [30:02] over Thanksgiving. [30:03] Not in the same way. [30:04] Really? [30:04] Definitely not in the same way. [30:06] Governor, [30:06] you should come over [30:07] to my parents' house [30:08] in Sacramento. [30:08] You invite me, [30:09] I'll be there. [30:10] You invite me, [30:11] I'll be there. [30:11] We have been arguing [30:12] through every form [30:14] of partisanship. [30:15] There's a difference [30:16] between arguing [30:17] and the type of, [30:18] and I can't believe [30:19] you haven't seen it, [30:21] the type of activity [30:21] that's going on [30:22] where people won't even [30:23] bring up subjects anymore [30:25] for fear of what the reaction [30:27] of another person would be. [30:28] Yeah. [30:28] And that is something [30:30] in our country, [30:31] our country was designed [30:32] to be an argument. [30:33] Yeah. [30:34] That's the way [30:35] the system was set up. [30:36] And he's such a snowflake [30:37] that if you don't agree with him, [30:40] he shuts down the argument [30:41] through insults [30:43] and even more severe action [30:46] that he takes [30:47] against people [30:47] criticize him. [30:48] Kolkata Chai [30:49] has brand new teabags. [30:50] It is so easy, [30:51] I literally don't [30:52] have to think about it. [30:53] Hot water, [30:54] teabag, [30:54] mug, [30:55] donezo. [30:56] Okay, [30:56] but what do I think [30:57] about now? [31:01] But real talk, [31:01] what is a microwave [31:02] actually? [31:03] It hums, [31:04] it dings, [31:05] it spins, [31:05] but what is making [31:06] the food hot? [31:08] Oh! [31:10] Screw you, [31:11] countertop Chernobyl. [31:12] Hard pass. [31:13] Okay, [31:14] just enjoy this moment [31:15] for one second [31:16] without, [31:17] ooh, [31:17] hello fridge. [31:18] Oh, [31:19] my chilly little frenemy. [31:20] I tolerate you. [31:21] but I do not trust you. [31:23] Do you remove heat [31:24] or do you add coal? [31:26] Ew, [31:27] I'm getting cold [31:27] just thinking about it. [31:28] You know, [31:29] I should make some chai [31:30] to warm up. [31:31] Stupid Hassan, [31:32] you're already making chai, [31:34] but I forgot about it [31:34] because these teabags [31:35] are literally doing [31:37] all the work. [31:37] Wait, [31:38] is it a teabag [31:39] or a chai bag [31:40] or a chai tea? [31:40] Nope, [31:41] no, [31:41] no, [31:41] no, [31:42] no, [31:42] not going there. [31:43] Just add hot water, [31:44] milk, [31:44] and sweetener [31:45] of your choice. [31:46] Honestly, [31:46] it's the best chai [31:47] in the game. [31:48] I should go tell someone. [31:52] I want to put a pin in that [31:53] because what you're talking about [31:54] and you've been talking [31:55] about this publicly, [31:56] which is like political savviness, [31:57] how to be an effective politician. [31:58] I want to talk about [31:59] your book first. [32:00] Can I do that? [32:00] Whatever you like. [32:01] Okay, [32:01] so in 2024, [32:03] you wrote this book, [32:05] What Would Reagan Do? [32:06] Life Lessons from the Last Great President. [32:10] You are nostalgic [32:12] for the Reagan era, [32:13] but I have a question for you. [32:15] Aren't we kind of living [32:16] through a Reagan era right now? [32:17] I mean, [32:18] Ronald Reagan famously [32:19] fucked with Latin America, [32:22] back to war with Iran, [32:23] interest rates were out of control. [32:24] Now look, [32:25] at that time it was 20%. [32:26] It's like six-ish right now, [32:28] but doesn't it feel [32:29] kind of Reagan-ish? [32:31] No, [32:33] no. [32:33] Were you alive during Reagan? [32:34] I was alive during Reagan. [32:35] How old? [32:35] Yeah. [32:36] How old? [32:37] I was born in 85. [32:38] Yeah, right. [32:39] So you didn't have [32:41] a conscious memory [32:42] before Reagan left office. [32:44] Tell me, [32:44] tell me about it [32:45] because I remember Rocky IV. [32:46] All I got to do [32:46] is bring that back. [32:48] And Stallone [32:49] is still cooking on Yellowstone. [32:50] Stallone is still, [32:51] we're not Yellowstone. [32:52] Not Yellowstone, [32:52] sorry, [32:52] I'm sorry, [32:52] Tulsa King. [32:53] How dare I? [32:54] How dare you? [32:55] You're right. [32:55] Kevin Costner is pissed. [32:57] Governor, [32:57] that's where we draw the line. [33:00] The DraftKings stuff, [33:01] don't worry about it. [33:02] I'm not going to let you, [33:03] I'm not going to let you [33:04] put Sylvester, [33:06] Stallone and Yellowstone. [33:07] No. [33:07] That's where I, [33:08] you're lucky I don't get up [33:09] and walk out on that. [33:10] No sly slander here. [33:11] Hey, put the cuffs on. [33:12] None. [33:12] Please. [33:13] No cuffs necessary. [33:14] Okay. [33:14] Just get it right. [33:15] That's all we're asking. [33:16] Okay. [33:16] No, look, [33:17] the Reagan era [33:18] is significantly different [33:20] regarding our alliances [33:21] around the world. [33:22] What Reagan did [33:23] around the world [33:24] was to bring [33:25] our alliances together [33:26] and folks worked together [33:27] in those times [33:29] with foreign governments, [33:30] you know, [33:31] all across our alliances [33:33] in Asia, [33:34] in Western Europe. [33:36] Is your argument [33:37] a call for decorum, [33:38] the decorum of Reagan [33:39] on the international [33:40] and the domestic stage? [33:41] Reagan actually did this. [33:42] Reagan reformed [33:43] Social Security [33:44] and compromised [33:46] with Democrats [33:46] to reform Social Security. [33:48] Reagan had a number [33:49] of different actions [33:50] when he was president [33:51] on taxes [33:52] and in other ways [33:53] where he actually [33:54] worked with Democrats, [33:55] worked with Tip O'Neill [33:56] to bring people together. [33:58] You don't see [33:58] any of that now. [33:59] In fact, [34:00] what you see [34:00] is people who vote [34:02] with the other party [34:03] from my party [34:04] are subject to the president [34:07] going after them [34:08] in primaries [34:09] as we just saw happen [34:10] with Bill Cassidy [34:11] just a few days ago. [34:13] And to be fair, [34:13] he was very different. [34:14] Reagan was very different [34:15] on the issue [34:16] of immigration as well. [34:17] Significantly different. [34:18] No tariffs [34:19] under Ronald Reagan. [34:20] Right. [34:20] He was absolutely [34:22] opposed to that, [34:23] wanted to have free trade [34:24] around the world [34:24] and didn't want [34:25] to put tariffs up [34:26] in the same way [34:27] that Trump is doing [34:27] and spoke very eloquently [34:28] about that as well. [34:30] A totally different [34:31] set of circumstances [34:32] under Ronald Reagan [34:34] than under Donald Trump. [34:35] Governor, [34:36] how do you feel [34:36] about basically [34:38] the idea that [34:39] Donald Trump [34:40] essentially stole [34:41] the tagline? [34:41] I mean, [34:42] Reagan was, [34:42] let's make America [34:43] great again [34:44] and Trump is [34:45] make America great again. [34:46] What's your analysis [34:47] on that? [34:49] Are we surprised [34:49] that Donald Trump [34:51] appropriated something [34:52] and then claims [34:53] it as his own? [34:54] I'm not. [34:55] Ronald Reagan [34:55] for president. [34:56] Let's make America [34:57] great again. [34:58] Tonight, [34:59] we're beginning [34:59] to do what is right [35:00] and what is necessary [35:01] to make America [35:02] great again. [35:03] Well, [35:04] I think it was oddly [35:04] kind of fitting. [35:05] Let's make America [35:06] great again. [35:07] Very welcoming. [35:08] Let's. [35:10] Hey, [35:11] let's go get [35:12] Korean barbecue, [35:13] governor. [35:13] Let us. [35:13] Let us. [35:14] Let us. [35:15] There's a great [35:16] Korean barbecue spot [35:17] right downstairs. [35:18] Let us. [35:19] By the way, [35:19] it was not the central part. [35:21] Reagan didn't make [35:22] it a slogan. [35:23] He made it an aspiration. [35:24] Yeah. [35:25] And that's significantly [35:26] different because [35:26] Reagan makes it [35:27] about everybody. [35:29] Trump makes it [35:30] about himself. [35:30] But it's an ask too. [35:31] Let us. [35:33] It's an ask rather [35:33] than demand. [35:34] But it's also [35:35] the implication [35:36] from my perspective [35:37] is that Reagan [35:38] wants to work [35:39] with everybody. [35:39] Yeah. [35:40] Trump is demanding [35:41] it be the way [35:43] he wants it to be. [35:44] So you've been writing [35:44] about this for a long time. [35:45] Obviously, [35:46] this is your 2024 book, [35:47] but you also wrote [35:47] a memoir in 2021. [35:48] And you've been [35:49] talking about this idea, [35:50] these ideals of what [35:51] America can be, [35:52] but what the Republican [35:53] Party can be. [35:53] In your 2021 memoir, [35:55] Republican Rescue, [35:56] you wrote, [35:57] our party has [35:59] core values that matter. [36:00] We believe in honesty [36:01] and integrity, [36:02] facts and fair play. [36:04] We don't smear [36:05] innocent people. [36:06] We don't make [36:06] wild accusations [36:07] and we can't tolerate [36:08] people who do. [36:10] Just like we can't [36:11] align ourselves [36:11] with violence, [36:13] corruption, [36:14] abuse, [36:14] or racism. [36:16] That is not [36:17] who we are. [36:19] I'm sorry, [36:19] what party [36:20] are you talking about here? [36:21] Yeah, no, [36:22] that was my view [36:23] of my party [36:25] pre-Donald Trump. [36:26] You would admit though [36:27] that the Republican Party [36:28] has descended [36:28] into a lot of these things. [36:30] That's why I wrote the book. [36:31] It's called [36:32] Republican Rescue. [36:33] I got you. [36:34] Yeah. [36:34] So hypothetically, [36:35] let's just say, [36:36] look, [36:37] governor, [36:38] you're out of office. [36:39] I have a YouTube show. [36:40] I'm available. [36:41] Let's say you and I, [36:42] we team up. [36:43] We work on a fiction book. [36:45] Okay? [36:45] A fiction book. [36:46] A fiction. [36:46] Okay. [36:47] Kind of the way [36:47] Bill Clinton's doing fiction [36:48] right now, [36:49] where it's grounded fiction. [36:51] Hypothetically, [36:51] let's say we write a character. [36:52] Now, [36:52] I know you think [36:53] I'm a young man, [36:53] but I got an old soul. [36:55] A character that's kind of [36:56] like Archie Bunker. [36:57] Our younger viewers [36:57] aren't going to get this, [36:58] but I'm telling you, [37:00] do your comedy due diligence. [37:01] Archie Bunker was a great [37:02] comedic character. [37:03] Kind of a well-intentioned bigot, [37:05] but like, [37:05] you know, [37:06] bigotry light. [37:07] Sometimes he was full calorie. [37:09] If we were to write [37:10] an Archie Bunker character [37:12] in our book, [37:13] which party do you think [37:15] he would lean towards [37:15] in 2026? [37:19] In his type of bigotry? [37:20] Could be either. [37:22] Could be either party. [37:23] You're telling me [37:23] 2026 Archie Bunker's [37:25] voting for Zoram Amdani, [37:26] voting for AOC, [37:28] voting for Bernie Sanders. [37:29] Oh, [37:29] he might vote for [37:30] Bernie Sanders. [37:31] Listen to Bernie Sanders. [37:32] He might vote for Bernie. [37:33] Come on. [37:34] I remember, [37:34] I remember, [37:35] a lot of the same people, [37:35] it's a grounded, [37:36] this is a grounded fiction. [37:37] No, [37:37] a lot of the same people [37:38] who voted for Bernie Sanders [37:40] in the Democratic primary [37:41] while they're voting [37:42] for Donald Trump [37:43] in the general. [37:44] Just look it up. [37:45] It is absolutely the case. [37:47] Populism is populism. [37:50] And whether it has [37:51] a liberal bent [37:52] or a conservative bent, [37:54] a lot of the same people [37:55] who were Bernie Sanders people [37:57] turned around [37:58] and would not vote [37:58] for Hillary Clinton [37:59] and in fact voted [38:00] for Donald Trump [38:01] and the polling numbers [38:03] are there to show it. [38:04] I just think. [38:06] I know what you think. [38:07] Your question was not very veiled. [38:09] I know what you think. [38:11] All right. [38:11] Okay? [38:12] Okay. [38:12] So you don't need to clue me in on that. [38:13] I get it. [38:14] I disagree with you. [38:17] Okay? [38:18] I believe that there are bigots [38:20] in both parties [38:21] and I believe that this populism movement [38:25] on both sides [38:27] have created [38:28] a horrible, [38:30] toxic culture. [38:32] Is Donald Trump the king of that? [38:34] Yes, he is. [38:35] But there are a lot of people. [38:36] But you're also saying Bernie Sanders [38:37] is contributing to this as well? [38:39] There's no doubt [38:40] that Bernie Sanders contributed to it. [38:41] And by the way, [38:42] Bernie Sanders voters. [38:43] A walking carton of Ben and Jerry's. [38:45] What are you talking about, Governor? [38:46] Bernie Sanders voters [38:47] elected Donald Trump in 2016. [38:50] All you have to do [38:51] is go and look at the numbers. [38:53] That's what happened. [38:53] You're right. [38:54] There were some [38:54] Bernie or bus people [38:56] that defected. [38:56] I guess they were okay [38:57] with Donald Trump's brand [38:59] of what he was selling. [39:00] And you know why? [39:01] Because much of it [39:02] was the same as Bernie's. [39:04] In Republican Rescue. [39:05] Yes. [39:05] You went off [39:06] on Marjorie Taylor Greene. [39:09] I did. [39:11] Have you apologized since? [39:13] No. [39:14] What? [39:14] She's on The View all the time. [39:15] You guys haven't pulled up [39:16] at the studio? [39:17] I have seen [39:18] Marjorie Taylor Greene in years. [39:20] So no, [39:20] I have not apologized [39:21] to Marjorie Taylor Greene. [39:22] In fact, [39:22] I've only met her once. [39:25] You had some very choice words for her. [39:28] How do you feel about her evolution? [39:30] She's changed as well, Governor? [39:31] Look, [39:32] I think that [39:33] Marjorie Taylor Greene's evolution [39:35] is her own personal evolution. [39:37] And if she's more comfortable [39:38] being in the place [39:39] where she is now, [39:40] I commend her [39:41] for her willingness to change. [39:42] I don't know [39:43] if it's really genuine or not, [39:44] but I have to take her [39:45] at her word. [39:46] So if it is, [39:46] good for her. [39:48] She's one of the few [39:49] Republican voices [39:50] out there right now [39:51] that is strongly [39:54] critiquing Donald Trump. [39:55] Do you consider her [39:56] an ally now? [39:57] No, [39:58] as I said, [39:58] I don't know her. [40:00] So I don't make someone [40:01] an ally [40:01] until I actually [40:02] get to meet them [40:03] and have a deep conversation [40:05] with them [40:05] about what they really [40:06] feel and believe. [40:07] How many convos [40:08] would it take, [40:09] realistically? [40:10] I really don't know. [40:11] Really? [40:11] Having never spoken to her, [40:13] except to say hello [40:14] at an event one day, [40:15] I wouldn't know. [40:16] Do you think maybe, [40:19] look, [40:19] I'm not going to put [40:20] your guys' friendship [40:21] or lack thereof [40:22] on trial here. [40:24] What I'm really trying [40:25] to get at is, [40:25] do you think that [40:26] people like Marjorie Taylor Greene [40:28] defecting [40:29] from the Republican base [40:31] and now critiquing [40:32] the president, [40:33] do you think that's part [40:33] of a larger shift [40:34] within the Republican base [40:36] and specifically [40:37] within young Republicans [40:39] being anti-war? [40:40] Well, [40:41] I think you said that earlier [40:42] when I said you went [40:43] from 95% [40:44] of Republicans [40:45] to 70% of Republicans, [40:47] I think there is [40:48] a shift going on [40:49] and I think that shift's [40:49] only going to get [40:50] more significant [40:51] as the rest of his [40:53] second term goes on. [40:54] And if she's a part of that, [40:56] I sense with her [40:57] it may have been more personal [40:58] than it was philosophical, [41:01] but, you know, [41:02] however you want to go [41:03] and give honest [41:05] and effective critiques [41:06] of the president, [41:08] I'm in favor of. [41:09] If you're going to do it [41:10] from an honest perspective [41:11] and they're going to be [41:12] relevant critiques, [41:13] not just ad hominems. [41:15] One of the things [41:15] that I got to give you [41:16] credit for [41:16] is you are willing [41:17] to go into the lion's den, [41:19] the belly of the beast [41:20] of your own party [41:21] and sometimes be booed. [41:25] I want to show you [41:26] a couple of clips [41:26] of you going head-to-head [41:27] with the Republican base, [41:29] but I would love your thoughts [41:30] about what, [41:31] kind of what's happening. [41:32] Feel free. [41:33] Let's take a look. [41:33] The conduct [41:34] is beneath [41:36] the office [41:37] of president [41:38] of the United States. [41:40] And, [41:42] and, [41:44] and, [41:46] you know, [41:47] this is the great thing [41:49] about this country. [41:50] Booing is allowed, [41:52] but it doesn't change [41:53] the truth. [41:54] It doesn't change [41:56] the truth. [41:57] Your anger [41:58] against the truth [41:59] is reprehensible. [42:02] The problem [42:06] is you fear [42:07] the truth. [42:10] The problem [42:11] is you want [42:13] to shout down [42:14] any voice [42:15] that says [42:16] anything different [42:17] than what [42:18] you want to hear. [42:19] Your anger [42:20] at the truth [42:21] is reprehensible. [42:23] Boo! [42:23] That's me [42:24] with my parents [42:25] at Thanksgiving. [42:26] I'm telling you. [42:27] I'm like, [42:28] Mom, [42:28] that is an AI [42:30] photo [42:30] of Keanu Reeves. [42:32] Boo! [42:33] And I go, [42:34] Mom, [42:34] your anger [42:35] at the truth [42:36] is reprehensible. [42:37] Oh, [42:37] I wouldn't have [42:38] raised the AI [42:39] photo of Keanu Reeves [42:40] to that level, [42:41] but if you want to, [42:42] that's cool. [42:42] Well, [42:43] for real, [42:44] like, [42:45] in all honesty, [42:47] for me as a comedian, [42:48] one of my biggest fears [42:49] is bombing [42:50] or getting booed [42:51] on stage. [42:52] For you to go [42:52] into your own base, [42:53] these are your, [42:54] ostensibly your fans, [42:56] and go, [42:56] hey, [42:56] the way you're [42:57] thinking about this [42:57] is wrong. [42:59] I got to give you credit, [43:00] but what in your life [43:01] shaped that mentality? [43:03] Very few politicians [43:04] would be willing [43:05] to do this. [43:05] The way I was raised [43:06] was that you are [43:08] who you are. [43:10] Don't pretend [43:10] to be something else. [43:12] My mother used to say [43:13] to me all the time, [43:14] be yourself, [43:15] then tomorrow [43:15] you don't have to [43:16] try to remember [43:16] who you pretended [43:17] to be yesterday. [43:19] And I remember [43:20] that lesson [43:20] from my mom [43:21] very clearly. [43:22] And I think [43:23] that those moments [43:25] were what I believed. [43:26] And I knew [43:27] in both of those times, [43:29] both the debate [43:30] in 2024 [43:31] and then [43:32] the Florida convention [43:34] that was [43:35] in 23 [43:36] in Kissimmee, Florida, [43:37] I knew I wasn't [43:38] going in there [43:39] to get a round [43:39] of applause. [43:40] What was your goal? [43:42] What was the goal [43:43] to make them hear it? [43:45] Someone needed [43:46] to say it. [43:48] I mean, [43:48] one of the biggest [43:49] reasons I ran [43:49] in 2024 [43:50] was you get [43:52] lots of people [43:52] in my party [43:53] who will whisper [43:53] it to you [43:54] in green rooms [43:55] at cocktail parties, [43:56] but they won't [43:57] say it out loud. [43:58] I was going [43:58] to be the guy [43:58] to say it out loud [43:59] because it's [44:00] what I believed [44:01] and what I still believe. [44:02] You must have [44:03] a belief [44:03] that you can [44:04] turn the room [44:04] as well. [44:05] Did you believe [44:05] that you could [44:06] turn the room? [44:06] No, [44:06] not that day. [44:09] You have to have [44:09] a long-term view [44:10] of this, [44:11] and I have [44:11] a long-term view [44:12] of it. [44:12] I think it'll turn, [44:13] but it's not [44:14] going to turn [44:14] that day. [44:15] But you got to [44:16] start laying [44:16] the groundwork. [44:17] It doesn't happen [44:17] like that. [44:18] So you're telling [44:18] your team, [44:22] a long-term vision [44:23] that there's [44:24] some, [44:25] let's call it [44:25] Mitt Romney version [44:26] of the Republican [44:26] Party that I'm [44:27] fighting towards. [44:28] I'm trying to [44:28] connect with [44:29] the rational, [44:30] reasonable Republican [44:31] base. [44:32] Yeah, [44:32] my team was thrilled [44:33] that I was willing [44:34] to do it. [44:34] That's why [44:35] they were my team. [44:36] Do you think [44:37] the Republican voters [44:38] want the truth? [44:40] Well, [44:41] certainly not all [44:41] of them right now. [44:42] Probably not a majority [44:43] of them right now. [44:45] But you know what [44:45] forces people [44:47] to have to listen [44:47] to the truth? [44:48] Losing. [44:51] Losing forces you [44:51] politically to have [44:52] to listen to the truth. [44:53] And I think [44:54] we're on our way [44:55] to a monumental [44:56] defeat as a party [44:57] in the 2026 midterms. [44:59] And when that happens, [45:00] I think people, [45:02] for practical reasons, [45:03] will begin to reevaluate [45:04] whether they really [45:05] want to continue [45:06] to hear the things [45:06] that led to the losing [45:07] or they want to hear [45:08] some different ideas [45:09] and different approach. [45:10] Do you really think [45:11] the Democrats have a chance [45:11] to win the 2026 midterms [45:13] in a major way? [45:14] Oh, [45:14] I think they'll win [45:15] the House. [45:16] And frankly, [45:18] I think they've got [45:18] a better chance [45:19] at the Senate today [45:20] than I thought [45:21] they would have [45:22] given the map. [45:23] And if Ken Paxson, [45:26] the Attorney General [45:27] of Texas, [45:28] wins his primary [45:29] against Senator Cornyn, [45:31] then I think [45:32] it puts Texas [45:32] in play as well [45:33] in the Senate [45:34] so they can have [45:35] an enhanced chance [45:36] of that. [45:37] One of the things [45:37] that people have said [45:39] about you [45:40] is that you are [45:41] right now [45:41] this Democratic Party [45:43] whisperer. [45:44] You're making allies. [45:45] And you're, [45:46] the same way you coached [45:47] Donald Trump [45:48] in 2016 and 2020, [45:50] sometimes you also [45:51] reach out to [45:51] Democratic leadership [45:52] to give them advice. [45:53] I've always reached out [45:54] to Democratic leadership. [45:55] Always. [45:55] What type of advice [45:56] would you give them [45:56] right now [45:57] as they prep [45:57] for the midterms? [45:59] Stop talking [45:59] about Donald Trump. [46:02] Start laying out [46:02] for people [46:03] what you would [46:04] do differently. [46:06] And I think [46:06] too many Democrats, [46:07] I think this is, [46:08] was Kamala Harris' [46:09] biggest mistake [46:10] in 2024 [46:11] where she spent [46:12] all this time [46:13] talking about [46:14] what a threat [46:14] to democracy [46:15] Donald Trump was. [46:16] The people [46:17] who believed that [46:18] and it was their [46:19] most important issue [46:20] were already voting [46:21] for her. [46:22] She needed to talk [46:23] to that slice [46:24] of independents, [46:25] disaffected Republicans, [46:26] and skeptical Democrats [46:28] that probably amounted [46:30] to about 8% to 10% [46:33] of the voters [46:33] who were like, [46:34] we really don't want [46:36] Trump again. [46:38] Biden was a failure. [46:39] Tell me how you're [46:40] going to be different. [46:41] We talked about The View. [46:42] I mean, [46:42] I never saw a Democratic [46:43] politician go on The View [46:45] and cough it up [46:46] as badly as she did. [46:48] You know, [46:48] when they say to her, [46:49] can you tell us a way [46:50] you'd be different [46:50] than President Biden? [46:51] And she said, [46:52] I can't think of one. [46:54] You know, [46:54] I mean... [46:54] That was a lamp. [46:55] She blew a lamp. [46:55] Yeah. [46:56] That was a lamp. [46:56] Totally blew it. [46:57] But worse, [46:59] continued it [47:00] as she went on. [47:01] So I think, [47:02] you know, [47:04] people in the Democratic Party, [47:06] if they want to be successful, [47:09] need to speak [47:10] to something [47:10] other than Donald Trump. [47:12] The Donald Trump case [47:13] for most Democrats [47:14] and Democratic leaders [47:15] have been made. [47:17] It's over. [47:18] It's been made. [47:19] What you need [47:20] to get to win [47:21] is that swath [47:22] of independents [47:23] who say, [47:24] we don't trust [47:24] either of you. [47:26] What are you going [47:27] to tell me? [47:28] What are you going [47:28] to show me [47:29] to allow me [47:31] to trust you? [47:32] In a recent interview, [47:33] you said that the problem [47:33] with the Democrats [47:34] is they have [47:34] no new good ideas. [47:36] So I'm going [47:37] to throw you [47:37] some ideas [47:38] that Democrats [47:39] could adopt [47:40] and you tell me [47:41] if you think [47:41] they're good ideas. [47:42] Okay. [47:42] Because I'm in agreement [47:43] with you. [47:45] The public [47:47] and the populace [47:48] want to build [47:49] towards something. [47:51] So how about this? [47:52] You tell me [47:52] if this is a good idea [47:52] or not. [47:53] Stop Congress [47:54] from trading stocks. [47:55] Good idea. [47:56] Fantastic. [47:57] Medicare for all. [47:58] No. [48:00] No. [48:02] I do not believe [48:02] in the government [48:03] running the entire [48:04] healthcare system. [48:05] Cut the Pentagon budget. [48:06] No. [48:08] Universal childcare. [48:12] Universal childcare [48:13] paid by the taxpayers. [48:14] Is that what you're saying? [48:16] Because look, [48:17] I think every child [48:18] should be cared for. [48:19] Yes. [48:19] Are you telling me [48:19] that that should all [48:20] be paid for [48:20] by the taxpayers? [48:21] Yes. [48:22] No. [48:25] Aren't they all [48:25] of our children? [48:26] No, they're not [48:27] all of our children. [48:28] They are. [48:29] This is a society [48:29] we live in. [48:30] No, they're not. [48:30] I'm totally down. [48:31] No, they're not. [48:31] Governor, I'm down to pay. [48:33] They're not all [48:33] our children. [48:34] They're not. [48:35] I'm down to pay [48:36] for other people's kids. [48:37] I promise you. [48:37] I don't want to pay [48:38] for other people's kids. [48:39] You already are. [48:40] You already are [48:41] through taxes [48:43] you pay locally [48:44] at the state level. [48:46] But you're asking [48:47] about universal childcare [48:48] to be paid for [48:49] for every child [48:50] by the taxpayers. [48:51] And my answer is no. [48:53] Okay. [48:53] I disagree. [48:55] Fabulous. [48:56] Abolish ICE. [48:57] No. [48:58] Okay. [48:59] How about this? [48:59] Just run it the right way. [49:00] And I knew you were [49:00] going to do this. [49:01] How about run it the right way? [49:02] Okay. [49:02] So how about, [49:02] this is all I'm saying [49:03] is when I see [49:04] a Dodge Caravan pull up [49:05] with people in ski masks [49:06] just grabbing [49:06] an older Mexican lady? [49:08] Can we not do it? [49:09] That's running the wrong way. [49:11] Okay. [49:11] Immigration and Customs [49:12] Enforcement [49:13] has a legitimate purpose [49:16] in our country. [49:18] It's not being used [49:18] that way now [49:19] because the president [49:20] is using it [49:21] illegitimately [49:22] and I would argue [49:23] illegally. [49:24] Governor, [49:24] I have two dudes [49:24] that I went to high school [49:25] with that have joined ICE. [49:27] Let me tell you, [49:27] it's not the brightest [49:28] of the bunch. [49:29] That's all I want to say. [49:30] Hey, I can only speak [49:31] to what I know anecdotally. [49:32] Bad hiring practices [49:33] by the Trump administration. [49:35] That bureaucracy, [49:36] obviously, [49:36] you know, [49:37] the chainsaw [49:37] didn't cut that part out. [49:39] Get the government [49:39] to produce generic versions [49:41] of life-saving drugs. [49:42] Get the government [49:44] to produce them? [49:44] Come on, yes. [49:45] No. [49:46] What's the government [49:46] know about producing [49:47] generic life-saving drugs? [49:50] What do they know? [49:50] You can't make- [49:51] Who are the experts [49:52] at the government [49:52] who you're going to trust? [49:53] You're going to take that drug? [49:55] I'd rather have it produced [49:56] by people who have degrees [49:57] that actually know [49:58] what they're doing. [49:59] My mother's a physician. [50:01] She does watch this [50:02] on YouTube and governor. [50:02] She will probably be inviting [50:04] you to Thanksgiving. [50:05] I'm telling you, [50:08] the government can make [50:10] a CVS-branded acetaminophen. [50:13] If CVS can do it, [50:14] if you can do a non-name brand- [50:15] Wait, so is acetaminophen [50:16] a life-saving drug? [50:18] Is that what we got going now? [50:19] Okay. [50:20] That acetaminophen [50:21] is a life-saving drug? [50:22] You understand what I'm saying. [50:22] Are you dying from fever [50:23] as we speak? [50:24] You can make non-name brand insulin. [50:25] This can be something [50:26] that can be provided [50:27] to the people. [50:27] The fact that [50:28] it is astronomically higher [50:29] in Canada [50:30] is insane, Governor, [50:31] with all due respect. [50:32] What's astronomically [50:33] higher in Canada? [50:33] The price of insulin [50:35] here in America [50:36] is astronomically higher. [50:37] I thought you messed that up. [50:37] Sorry, I messed that up. [50:38] I'm sorry. [50:38] And I didn't want you [50:39] to be looking stupid. [50:41] So I wanted to make sure [50:42] I helped you out there. [50:43] I appreciate that, Governor. [50:44] It's astronomically higher [50:46] in the United States [50:47] of America. [50:47] In the United States of America. [50:47] In the United States of America. [50:47] Yeah, and it's much lower [50:49] in Canada. [50:49] Right. [50:50] And I'm saying- [50:50] And what I'm saying to you is- [50:51] Why can't we do [50:52] the RC Cola of insulin? [50:53] By the way, [50:54] the Canadian government [50:55] doesn't make the insulin. [50:57] Okay? [50:58] Your question was, [51:00] have the government [51:01] make life-saving drugs, [51:05] generic life-saving drugs. [51:07] I don't trust- [51:07] Can we have someone- [51:08] I actually listened to you [51:09] and I took your question [51:11] literally. [51:12] Thank you. [51:12] What if the government [51:13] pays for it? [51:13] How about that? [51:15] So the right people make it. [51:17] The government pays- [51:17] And the government pays for it. [51:18] The government pays for a lot [51:19] of it now. [51:20] Okay. [51:20] Through Medicare Part D [51:23] and Medicaid [51:24] for people who are most in need, [51:26] are elderly, [51:27] and are impoverished. [51:29] Okay. [51:29] And I think that [51:30] that should continue. [51:31] Okay. [51:31] I don't think they need [51:32] to pay for it for me [51:33] and you though. [51:35] You got a nice suit there. [51:36] We don't need to pay that for you. [51:36] Yeah, don't pay for me. [51:38] Governor, I've said this. [51:39] This is the same way [51:40] I feel about universal child care. [51:41] My kids are totally fine. [51:42] I am totally down [51:43] for every child- [51:44] But then don't pull it [51:45] child care for those [51:46] who need it. [51:47] That's a different story. [51:48] You're saying, [51:49] you're using words [51:50] that imply everyone. [51:52] And I don't think people [51:53] who are doing very well [51:54] in this country [51:55] should have the government [51:56] taking over, [51:56] paying for their drugs, [51:58] paying for their child care. [51:59] I should pay for my [52:00] prescription drugs. [52:01] So should you. [52:02] I should pay for my child care. [52:04] So should you. [52:05] Okay. [52:05] How about this? [52:06] Let me pitch a better way [52:07] to do it [52:07] because I know you can get [52:08] caught into the talking points [52:09] of it. [52:10] Not the talking points. [52:11] I'm just listening to your question [52:12] and answering it. [52:13] How about this? [52:13] I got it. [52:14] You've had this with friends. [52:16] But if you need it, [52:17] Igotyou.gov. [52:18] And I feel like [52:19] child care is a need, [52:21] health care is a need. [52:21] I'm good. [52:22] But if you need it, [52:23] Igotyou.gov. [52:25] Igotyou.gov? [52:26] If you need it, [52:27] Igotyou.gov. [52:29] Not only if you need it, [52:30] but if you show [52:31] that you can't pay for it yourself. [52:33] That's what Medicaid is [52:35] and expanded Medicaid, [52:37] which I expanded in New Jersey. [52:39] That's what Medicare is [52:40] for the elderly [52:40] who are now on a fixed income [52:42] and need it. [52:43] We have that stuff now. [52:44] Okay. [52:44] How about this? [52:45] Preventing politicians [52:46] from profiting off [52:47] of former connections [52:48] that they had [52:48] while they were in office [52:49] once they leave office. [52:53] I mean, conceptually, sure. [52:55] You know, but for how long? [52:58] And how do these folks [52:59] do what they do [53:00] when they get out? [53:01] But conceptually, yeah, [53:02] I have no problem with that. [53:05] Okay. [53:06] I mean, look. [53:07] I appreciate that. [53:08] Well, I'm sure you appreciate it. [53:09] Because I know life's more fun [53:10] when you get in on the action. [53:11] Yeah, well, I know. [53:13] Very nice. [53:14] So I worked for DraftKings. [53:15] Congratulations. [53:16] And by the way, [53:17] that wasn't a connection [53:18] that I made [53:18] when I was in government. [53:21] I'm just saying [53:22] the timeline [53:22] is pretty interesting. [53:25] Why would it be [53:26] so interesting to you? [53:27] It was, [53:30] I mean, the paint was drying. [53:33] I mean, it was literally, [53:34] it was pretty short [53:35] after you leaving office, [53:36] which is interesting. [53:37] It's just an interesting... [53:38] Well, I couldn't take any jobs [53:39] while I was in office. [53:42] Could I? [53:42] I'm saying I've gone through breakups [53:44] that had a longer gap. [53:45] That's all I'm saying, governor. [53:48] I'm confident you have. [53:49] Okay. [53:50] But I don't know [53:50] what the relevance of it is. [53:51] All right. [53:52] The relevance is, [53:53] is by the way, [53:53] some of the stuff [53:54] that we've kind of [53:55] butted heads on. [53:57] And look, [53:57] you're probably gonna run [53:58] for office again. [53:59] I'm telling you, [54:00] this is me to you [54:01] with all due respect. [54:01] These are popular policies [54:03] with the American public. [54:05] Just because something's popular, [54:07] if you don't favor it, [54:08] this is the problem [54:09] with your view of politics. [54:11] If it's popular, [54:12] you should be in charge of it. [54:13] That's why you like Bernie Sanders. [54:15] That's what populism is. [54:17] Leaders listen to what's popular [54:19] and then just do it [54:20] whether they think [54:21] it's good or not. [54:22] That to me [54:23] is not what leadership is. [54:24] Leadership is using [54:25] the judgment you've developed [54:26] over time [54:27] to make decisions [54:28] on behalf of people [54:29] because we don't have [54:30] a direct democracy. [54:31] We have a republic. [54:32] You elect people [54:33] to use their judgment [54:34] and to make decisions. [54:35] And if you don't like [54:35] the judgment they exercise, [54:36] you can vote them out. [54:37] So what you're saying is [54:38] when you say Democrats [54:40] should adopt good policies, [54:42] you don't mean popular policies. [54:44] Do you mean basically [54:44] Republican policies? [54:45] No. [54:46] No. [54:47] And in fact, [54:47] I agreed with a number [54:48] of the things in there [54:49] that would be called [54:50] democratic policies. [54:51] So no. [54:52] Is there anything [54:53] that would make you [54:53] vote for a Democrat? [54:58] Sure. [54:59] Sure there is. [55:01] Yeah. [55:02] What collection of issues [55:03] do you think? [55:04] It would depend on the people. [55:05] Really? [55:06] I vote for the people. [55:07] So if there is a Democrat [55:08] who is running, [55:10] who I thought... [55:11] Give me your infinity stones. [55:13] It can just be five. [55:14] It's just five. [55:16] Governor has five infinity stones. [55:17] Explain infinity stones. [55:18] I don't know what they are. [55:18] Infinity stones. [55:19] So in the Marvel [55:20] Cinematic Universe, [55:21] Thanos collects [55:22] the infinity stones, [55:22] which is his way [55:23] of basically ending [55:24] all of civilization. [55:25] What I'm trying to do [55:26] is I'm talking about [55:26] a positive version of it. [55:27] which would be a way [55:29] to help all of [55:30] American civilization. [55:32] What are your infinity stones? [55:34] So mine would be [55:34] like universal child care, [55:36] health care, [55:37] education, [55:38] and two more [55:39] that I'd probably [55:40] ask my sister for advice on. [55:41] Honesty, [55:43] integrity, [55:45] a strong national defense, [55:48] a safety net [55:49] for those who are underprivileged, [55:52] and a legal system [55:54] that makes sure [55:55] that justice is done [55:56] fairly and equitably [55:57] for everyone. [56:04] Honesty and integrity. [56:06] You could kind of [56:06] collapse that into one. [56:09] There's two different things, [56:10] but that's okay. [56:11] One of the things [56:11] that you've talked [56:12] quite a bit about [56:13] is this idea of [56:13] people being [56:14] politically talented. [56:16] You're very good [56:16] at identifying [56:17] who is politically talented [56:18] and who isn't. [56:20] What does politically talented [56:22] mean to you? [56:23] At its basic core, [56:25] the ability to connect [56:26] with people. [56:27] Okay. [56:29] Now, there's lots of others, [56:30] but at its core, [56:32] that is the [56:34] indispensable part [56:36] of political talent. [56:37] You can add on to it [56:38] with other abilities, [56:40] but to me, [56:40] the indispensable part [56:41] of political talent [56:42] is the ability [56:43] to connect with other people. [56:47] Can you share [56:48] this Bill Clinton story [56:49] because you've famously said [56:50] Bill Clinton was [56:51] incredibly politically talented. [56:53] He's the gold standard. [56:54] Okay. [56:55] In my opinion. [56:56] A lot of people [56:56] who watch the show [56:57] know Bill Clinton [56:58] basically as the dude [57:00] who essentially fell asleep [57:01] during the Democratic [57:02] National Convention [57:03] that has recently [57:05] become vegan, [57:05] and then for some reason [57:06] there's way too many photos [57:07] of him getting massages [57:08] at airports [57:09] by women that aren't his wife. [57:11] That's what they know him as. [57:12] Yeah. [57:12] Again, I'm a 90s baby. [57:14] I grew up in the 90s. [57:15] I'm talking about [57:16] fiscal surplus. [57:18] Everyone in the Sacramento area [57:21] has a Ford Explorer [57:22] or Ford Expedition [57:23] Eddie Bauer edition. [57:25] This was the golden age [57:26] of America, [57:27] or it was my childhood [57:28] and I'm just having [57:28] recency bias. [57:29] That being said. [57:30] Probably a little bit of both. [57:32] Tell your Bill Clinton story [57:33] that made you say, [57:34] Well, it was the first time [57:35] I met Bill Clinton [57:35] in person. [57:37] As it happened, [57:38] it was at Donald Trump's wedding. [57:39] to Melania. [57:42] You forgot that part [57:43] of the story, [57:43] or maybe you didn't. [57:44] You're just feigning [57:45] amazement. [57:46] I'm doing it [57:46] for the reaction shot. [57:47] I knew it was at that one. [57:48] Now the response, [57:50] if I really wanted [57:50] to get it cooking [57:51] was which wedding? [57:52] Yeah. [57:53] But I don't want it [57:54] to rail you. [57:54] You are professional. [57:56] So we were at the wedding [57:59] with Bill and Hillary, [58:00] Don King, [58:02] Shaquille O'Neal, [58:04] Tony Bennett, [58:05] Billy Joel. [58:06] Yeah. [58:06] It was quite the... [58:07] Heavy hitters. [58:08] Quite, [58:08] the way I would put it is, [58:10] quite the menagerie. [58:12] I like that word. [58:14] Bill and Hillary [58:15] were two of the guests. [58:16] And during the cocktail hour, [58:18] it was probably about 300 people [58:19] at the wedding. [58:20] During the cocktail hour, [58:21] I observed two things. [58:22] No one knew who I was. [58:24] I was the... [58:25] They didn't know who you were. [58:26] No, [58:26] because I was the relatively new. [58:28] This was in January of 2005. [58:30] I was watching. [58:32] It gave me an opportunity [58:33] not to participate, [58:34] but to observe. [58:35] Okay. [58:36] And what I observed was, [58:38] at one point, [58:39] Bill and Hillary Clinton. [58:41] Hillary, [58:42] there were pillars in the room. [58:45] Hillary stood kind of with her [58:47] back to a pillar [58:48] with a staff member with her. [58:50] And she was receiving people [58:52] for handshakes and photos. [58:54] And then they were being [58:55] moved away from her. [58:56] Her husband, [58:58] the former president [58:59] of the United States, [59:00] was working the room. [59:02] He was going from person [59:03] to person to person [59:04] and stopping and speaking to them. [59:07] And I said to my wife, [59:09] that's why he was [59:10] a two-term president [59:11] and she never will be. [59:12] In that room? [59:14] In that room at that time. [59:16] I said, [59:16] she'll never be president. [59:18] And the reason [59:18] she'll never be president is [59:19] she expects like a queen, [59:21] everybody to come to her. [59:23] When he, [59:24] who has been president twice, [59:27] twice, [59:27] is walking around [59:28] to every person [59:29] in that room [59:30] to say hello [59:31] and to talk to them briefly, [59:34] a minute, [59:34] minute and a half. [59:35] Now, he came up to you. [59:36] He did. [59:37] What did he say? [59:37] He said, [59:39] hi, Bill Clinton, [59:40] what's your name? [59:42] And I said, [59:43] I'm Chris Christie, [59:43] Mr. President. [59:44] It's an honor to meet you. [59:45] And he said, [59:46] Chris, [59:46] Chris, [59:47] what do you do for a living? [59:48] And I said, [59:49] I'm actually [59:49] the United States Attorney [59:51] in New Jersey. [59:51] He said, [59:52] oh, my goodness. [59:53] God always wanted that job. [59:55] Always wanted to be [59:55] U.S. Attorney. [59:56] Never got to be it. [59:57] Because you know, [59:57] I was Attorney General of Arkansas, [59:59] of course, [1:00:00] Governor of Arkansas. [1:00:01] President, [1:00:02] of course. [1:00:02] But I always wanted [1:00:03] to be U.S. Attorney. [1:00:04] What an amazing job. [1:00:06] And I said, [1:00:06] it is a great job, sir. [1:00:08] And he then turned to my wife [1:00:10] and he said, [1:00:11] sweetheart, [1:00:12] what's your name? [1:00:15] And she said, [1:00:15] my name is Mary Pat. [1:00:17] He said, [1:00:17] Mary Pat, [1:00:17] what do you do for a living? [1:00:19] And she said, [1:00:19] well, [1:00:20] I work on Wall Street. [1:00:22] While he was shaking her hand, [1:00:24] he turned over his shoulder [1:00:25] to where I was [1:00:26] and he said, [1:00:27] you dog, [1:00:28] beautiful and rich. [1:00:31] Okay. [1:00:32] Then, [1:00:33] uh-huh. [1:00:33] At that time, [1:00:34] he calls you a dog. [1:00:35] Yeah. [1:00:36] He's shaking her hand [1:00:37] and he is rubbing [1:00:38] her other forearm [1:00:40] with his hand. [1:00:42] And he says, [1:00:42] um, [1:00:43] he says to her, [1:00:44] Dara, [1:00:45] let me tell you something [1:00:45] about your husband. [1:00:46] If he's a U.S. attorney, [1:00:48] he's an ambitious guy. [1:00:49] That means he's going to have [1:00:50] a career in this business [1:00:52] after this. [1:00:53] But the only way [1:00:54] he could be successful [1:00:55] if he has a good woman [1:00:56] who knows how to treat him right, [1:00:59] and I'm sure you are. [1:01:01] And she goes, [1:01:01] well, [1:01:01] I do my best, [1:01:03] Mr. President. [1:01:04] And, [1:01:04] um, [1:01:06] he said, [1:01:06] well, [1:01:06] it's been such a pleasure [1:01:07] to meet both of you. [1:01:09] Really, [1:01:09] really, [1:01:09] really, [1:01:10] really mean it. [1:01:11] And thank you [1:01:11] and have a great time tonight. [1:01:13] Boom. [1:01:14] Walked away. [1:01:15] My wife looked at me [1:01:16] after that and she goes, [1:01:17] I never voted for him [1:01:18] neither time, [1:01:21] but I can see why [1:01:21] people say he's charming. [1:01:23] Because in that moment, [1:01:24] she said, [1:01:24] when he was talking to her, [1:01:26] she felt like there was [1:01:27] nobody else in the room. [1:01:28] He was locked on her eyes. [1:01:30] He's rubbing her arm. [1:01:31] He's complimenting her. [1:01:33] And then he, [1:01:34] boom, [1:01:34] like, [1:01:35] uh, [1:01:35] like the wind, [1:01:36] he was gone. [1:01:37] And on to the next. [1:01:38] He has an amazing ability [1:01:40] to connect with people. [1:01:43] He, [1:01:43] all the questions [1:01:44] were about us. [1:01:45] Yeah. [1:01:46] No comments about himself [1:01:47] other than [1:01:48] he always wanted [1:01:49] to be U.S. attorney. [1:01:50] Um, [1:01:51] he had this ability [1:01:52] to connect with people [1:01:53] very quickly. [1:01:53] Did you also feel charmed? [1:01:56] Well, [1:01:57] in a bit because of who he was, [1:01:59] you know, [1:01:59] I, [1:02:00] I have admiration [1:02:01] for, [1:02:01] you know, [1:02:03] someone who gets [1:02:04] to the presidency. [1:02:05] But yeah, [1:02:06] you can't help but like him. [1:02:07] And I've seen him [1:02:08] any number of times [1:02:09] after that. [1:02:10] And he's the same [1:02:11] kind of charming. [1:02:12] He remembers things [1:02:14] about you [1:02:15] that are kind of crazy [1:02:16] that he remembers. [1:02:17] And, [1:02:18] um, [1:02:19] and I think he's [1:02:20] the kind of guy [1:02:21] who can definitely charm. [1:02:23] And he charmed me for sure. [1:02:24] So you're basically saying [1:02:24] he's cool and charming? [1:02:26] At least, [1:02:27] at least those two things. [1:02:28] If, [1:02:28] and certainly a number [1:02:29] of other things. [1:02:30] Have you hung out [1:02:31] with a black dude before? [1:02:33] Sure. [1:02:35] With all due respect, [1:02:36] Governor, [1:02:37] there's two black dudes [1:02:38] that work at CVS [1:02:38] downstairs. [1:02:40] They're way cooler [1:02:41] than Bill Clinton. [1:02:42] And they remember [1:02:43] everything about me. [1:02:44] They very well may be, [1:02:45] but they were [1:02:46] president of the United States. [1:02:47] In one sentence, [1:02:48] they'll hit me. [1:02:48] They go, [1:02:48] hey, [1:02:49] what's up eyebrows? [1:02:49] I saw that YouTube short [1:02:50] you did with Mady Hassan. [1:02:52] In one second, [1:02:54] in one sentence, [1:02:55] they summarized [1:02:56] the content [1:02:56] that I've done [1:02:57] as of a couple months ago. [1:02:59] And they identified me [1:03:00] by my bushy brows. [1:03:02] Tremendous. [1:03:02] But I feel great [1:03:03] about myself. [1:03:05] I think that's [1:03:05] an interesting analogy, [1:03:07] but not necessarily apt. [1:03:08] All right. [1:03:08] But, [1:03:09] you know, [1:03:09] I'm saying, [1:03:10] but you're a comedian, [1:03:11] so it's good. [1:03:11] I'm saying the dudes [1:03:12] that work at CVS [1:03:13] are funnier than 85% [1:03:14] of the comedians I know, [1:03:15] and they're more charming [1:03:16] than 100% of the politicians [1:03:18] that I know. [1:03:18] Here's the difference. [1:03:19] Here's the difference [1:03:19] with the guys at CVS [1:03:21] and you [1:03:22] and Bill Clinton. [1:03:24] You get up on the stage [1:03:25] and do it in front [1:03:26] of a whole bunch of people. [1:03:27] It's a lot easier [1:03:28] to do it [1:03:29] one-on-one. [1:03:30] Sure. [1:03:30] The people who can do that, [1:03:31] the one-on-one thing, [1:03:33] and do the thing [1:03:34] in front of hundreds, [1:03:35] if not thousands of people, [1:03:37] that's a different talent. [1:03:38] Who are the politicians [1:03:39] that you see right now [1:03:40] that have that political skill [1:03:43] of being incredibly charming? [1:03:45] That have the Clinton-level [1:03:46] political skill? [1:03:46] That have the Clinton-level [1:03:47] political talent in Europe. [1:03:48] I don't see anybody right now [1:03:50] who has that level of talent. [1:03:51] You don't think [1:03:52] that Zoran Mamdani, [1:03:55] what he pulled off [1:03:56] was a level of talent [1:03:57] and political tenacity [1:03:59] that was unheard of? [1:04:00] It clearly was, [1:04:01] but I don't think Bill Clinton [1:04:03] sustained that level of ability [1:04:05] over a long period of time [1:04:07] while also getting himself [1:04:09] in different jams. [1:04:12] Jams is a nice way [1:04:13] to describe impeachment. [1:04:14] Thank you. [1:04:15] I like that governor. [1:04:16] It was more than impeachment [1:04:17] were his jams. [1:04:19] Sure, sure. [1:04:19] Quite the pickle. [1:04:20] He got himself [1:04:21] in a number of problems [1:04:22] and was able to, [1:04:24] in fact, [1:04:24] continue to sustain [1:04:26] his connection with people. [1:04:27] And we'll see [1:04:29] if Zoran can do that. [1:04:30] If he can. [1:04:31] You don't see AOC, is it? [1:04:32] No, I don't see that. [1:04:32] AOC, no chance. [1:04:34] She's certainly very charming. [1:04:37] I don't find her charming, [1:04:38] but if you do, that's good. [1:04:40] She's won in a congressional district. [1:04:43] He was elected [1:04:43] president of the United States. [1:04:45] And she's won in a district [1:04:48] it's impossible to lose in. [1:04:51] So, [1:04:51] I would give Mom Donnie [1:04:53] much, much more credit [1:04:54] than AOC. [1:04:55] So, in conclusion, [1:04:57] I just wanted to [1:04:58] kind of wrap it up here. [1:04:59] You gave Donald Trump [1:04:59] an A on Hannity [1:05:01] for his job as president. [1:05:02] Yeah. [1:05:02] What grade would you give me [1:05:03] for this interview? [1:05:06] Oh, I'd give you [1:05:06] probably an A-. [1:05:10] Some of your stuff [1:05:11] is imprecise, [1:05:12] but other than that, [1:05:14] you got it. [1:05:15] Look. [1:05:15] I could have tightened it up. [1:05:16] Look. [1:05:17] I could have tightened it up [1:05:18] like the people [1:05:18] on January 6th did. [1:05:19] Well, you could have done [1:05:20] a whole bunch of things. [1:05:21] I could have been more effective [1:05:21] in my mission. [1:05:22] Well, you could have been more. [1:05:23] Listen, [1:05:24] I think you've been [1:05:25] very effective in your mission. [1:05:27] I think you're [1:05:28] underselling yourself in that way. [1:05:29] My minus would have [1:05:30] only been for, [1:05:31] you know, [1:05:32] some of the language [1:05:32] you used [1:05:33] that was a little bit loose [1:05:34] that you had to go back [1:05:35] and tighten up a little bit. [1:05:35] That is fair. [1:05:36] The use of language. [1:05:37] But other than that, [1:05:37] I think you've been pretty good [1:05:38] in your mission. [1:05:39] Absolutely. [1:05:39] You know what, [1:05:40] Governor, [1:05:40] I got to say, [1:05:40] and I really want to say this [1:05:42] genuinely. [1:05:43] I want to say thank you [1:05:43] for coming on the show. [1:05:44] We've been trying to get you [1:05:45] on the show for a long time. [1:05:46] I appreciate how you're [1:05:47] willing to grapple [1:05:48] and deal with difficult [1:05:49] subject matter, [1:05:50] and I appreciate you [1:05:51] engaging with [1:05:53] both sides of the aisle. [1:05:55] And I appreciate you [1:05:57] dealing with Joy Behar, [1:05:58] because she has been [1:05:59] tough on me, [1:06:00] and she won't come on the show. [1:06:02] Joy will not come on the show. [1:06:04] I don't understand why. [1:06:06] We've been trying. [1:06:07] You two, I think, [1:06:08] would be an interesting [1:06:10] interview to watch, [1:06:12] because she has her own [1:06:14] tenacity to her as well. [1:06:16] She's a scrapper as well. [1:06:17] Yeah, she's a bit of a scrapper. [1:06:18] She's a scrapper. [1:06:19] But, you know, look, [1:06:19] I think that the A- [1:06:21] in the interview for me [1:06:22] shows you two things. [1:06:24] One, that I'm willing [1:06:26] to listen to anybody [1:06:27] who has some credible things [1:06:29] to say sitting across from me, [1:06:30] and two, that I'm probably [1:06:31] an easy grader. [1:06:33] That is true. [1:06:36] Governor, do you mind [1:06:37] doing me a favor? [1:06:37] Do you know who [1:06:37] Ronnie Chang is, [1:06:38] the comedian Ronnie Chang? [1:06:40] I've heard of him, [1:06:40] but I don't know him. [1:06:41] You don't need [1:06:42] to research any further. [1:06:43] He was named [1:06:44] after Ronald Reagan. [1:06:46] Wow. [1:06:46] Can you sign this book [1:06:47] in his honor? [1:06:48] How about this? [1:06:48] How about if I do better? [1:06:50] Because whoever got [1:06:51] that book for Ronnie, [1:06:52] obviously cheap, [1:06:53] gets him the paperback book. [1:06:54] Yeah, yeah. [1:06:56] I've got some hardcovers [1:06:58] of that. [1:06:58] You want the hardcover? [1:06:59] No, no, no. [1:06:59] You can give Ronnie [1:07:00] the hardcover. [1:07:00] Excuse me. [1:07:00] I'm going to provide [1:07:01] the hardcover for Ronnie. [1:07:03] So you give me- [1:07:04] Governor, he doesn't need it. [1:07:05] Oh, no. [1:07:05] Remember, we only provide [1:07:06] people who need it. [1:07:07] No, no, no, no, no. [1:07:08] Well, no. [1:07:09] Charitably- [1:07:10] Pardon me. [1:07:11] Charitably, I could provide [1:07:13] whenever I want to anyone. [1:07:14] Ronnie doesn't need [1:07:15] to be a part of the nanny state. [1:07:16] He needs to get his mouth [1:07:17] off the government's titty. [1:07:19] Well, it's not the government [1:07:19] you see. [1:07:20] This is me. [1:07:21] You're a former- [1:07:21] This is me. [1:07:22] You're a former elected official. [1:07:22] Well, that's the key word there. [1:07:24] Former. [1:07:24] Is former. [1:07:25] Yeah. [1:07:25] And this is, again, [1:07:26] this is why you got name minus. [1:07:28] It's the imprecision [1:07:29] of your points [1:07:30] that make you fail. [1:07:32] Sure. [1:07:32] But despite that, [1:07:34] I'm going to do this for Ronnie [1:07:35] because Ronnie's not here [1:07:37] and he doesn't know [1:07:37] that you were going to be [1:07:38] imprecise in what you did. [1:07:39] So you give me, [1:07:40] either I can send it here. [1:07:42] Sure. [1:07:42] Or if you feel free, [1:07:43] give me Ronnie's address. [1:07:45] I will send a signed copy [1:07:46] of the book, [1:07:48] but a hardcover book [1:07:49] for Ronnie. [1:07:49] We'll do the hardcover. [1:07:49] Because if he's named [1:07:51] after Ronald Reagan, [1:07:52] he deserves hardcover. [1:07:53] I'll get, okay. [1:07:55] I'll have you send him [1:07:55] the hardcover. [1:07:56] That'd be fabulous. [1:07:57] And you know what? [1:07:58] He hates- [1:07:58] You know what else? [1:07:59] He hates putting his address [1:08:00] on the internet. [1:08:01] I'll gladly reply all [1:08:02] and put it out on the internet. [1:08:04] No reason for you [1:08:04] to put it out on the internet. [1:08:05] Because it was requested [1:08:05] by Governor Christie. [1:08:06] I will do that. [1:08:06] No, it was not requested. [1:08:07] I want what? [1:08:07] It was not requested [1:08:08] to put it on the internet. [1:08:09] Okay. [1:08:09] It was to give it to me. [1:08:11] Sure. [1:08:11] And having been U.S. attorney, [1:08:12] I know how to treat things [1:08:14] with the utmost confidentiality. [1:08:15] Okay. [1:08:16] But if anyone is [1:08:18] at least uncomfortable about that, [1:08:19] I'll send it to this place. [1:08:21] Sure. [1:08:21] And then you can give it to Ronnie. [1:08:23] Yeah, yeah. [1:08:23] Whichever way. [1:08:24] But I don't want Ronnie [1:08:25] to be sitting around [1:08:25] with a paper book. [1:08:26] That's outrageous. [1:08:28] Yeah, and as we know, [1:08:29] kind of American elected officials [1:08:30] have never had [1:08:31] their emails hacked. [1:08:32] So it'll be super secure [1:08:33] when I send it to you. [1:08:34] Again, what I said to you [1:08:35] was give it to me. [1:08:36] I didn't say email it to me. [1:08:37] You want me to write it down on paper? [1:08:39] That would be something [1:08:40] that would be very secure. [1:08:41] Sounds good. [1:08:42] If you wanted to, [1:08:42] because I know [1:08:43] your concern about security [1:08:45] may screw up your joke. [1:08:46] Yeah. [1:08:46] But on the other hand, [1:08:47] if you're genuinely concerned [1:08:49] about Ronnie's security, [1:08:50] you give it to me [1:08:51] on a piece of paper [1:08:52] and then I will have it [1:08:54] absolutely thrown [1:08:55] into a fireplace [1:08:56] and burnt. [1:08:57] So that no one [1:08:58] will ever have that, [1:08:59] that who doesn't deserve [1:09:01] to have that address. [1:09:02] Governor will do. [1:09:03] No will have it. [1:09:03] I think it's safe to say [1:09:04] you love Ronnie Chang. [1:09:06] Let me say this. [1:09:06] I don't know Ronnie Chang, [1:09:08] but I love the fact [1:09:09] that he was named [1:09:10] after Ronald Reagan [1:09:11] and I treat him [1:09:14] with enough respect [1:09:14] to know that [1:09:16] you want to get [1:09:17] in a paperback book. [1:09:18] Bring him the hardcover. [1:09:18] Cheapo. [1:09:19] Let's get him the hardcover. [1:09:19] That's not right. [1:09:20] I'm the cheapskate. [1:09:21] Look, nice suit, [1:09:22] great shoes. [1:09:23] Spend a couple of bucks. [1:09:25] Well, [1:09:25] but because you've been [1:09:27] so good to me [1:09:28] on this interview, [1:09:28] I'm giving you the book. [1:09:30] Not you, [1:09:31] I'm giving it to Ronnie. [1:09:32] Give it to him. [1:09:32] You can keep that one [1:09:33] if you want [1:09:33] and do whatever [1:09:35] you might want with it. [1:09:36] Governor Chris Christie, [1:09:37] thank you for being on the show. [1:09:38] Hassan, thank you very much. [1:09:39] This has been a long time coming, [1:09:40] ladies and gentlemen. [1:09:41] I told you guys, [1:09:44] this guy will scrap. [1:09:46] My man will scrap. [1:09:48] They don't build him [1:09:49] like you, Governor. [1:09:49] Well, you know, [1:09:50] many would say [1:09:52] that it's good [1:09:53] that they don't, [1:09:53] but I, you know, [1:09:54] I ain't sure who I am.