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"Donald Trump, you may have heard this already, waded into Madison Square Garden last night and he did so amid plunging tall numbers, rising prices for just about everything and an increasingly angry and agitated political coalition. Appearing to expect the kind of reception that he gets from his..."
[0:00] Donald Trump, you may have heard this already, waded into Madison Square Garden last night
[0:05] and he did so amid plunging tall numbers, rising prices for just about everything
[0:11] and an increasingly angry and agitated political coalition.
[0:16] Appearing to expect the kind of reception that he gets from his cabinet members who
[0:21] fawn all over him, thinking that that would somehow extend to 20,000 New York Knicks fans.
[0:26] Here's how that went down.
[0:27] It wasn't just that they were booing inside Madison Square Garden.
[0:45] Here's how the broader city of New York received Donald Trump.
[1:11] I've never heard so much beeping as I did watching local news and the game last night.
[1:16] But Donald Trump is never one to let that reality get in the way of his own egos or delusions.
[1:23] And so this was his readout of how he was received at the garden last night.
[1:28] I did it great.
[1:29] I mean, I thought it was amazing, actually.
[1:31] You mean when they had the camera on me?
[1:34] I thought it was very good, yeah.
[1:36] It was certainly amazing.
[1:37] It was, I think, mostly cheers.
[1:41] It was loud and it was very enthusiastic.
[1:45] Because, of course, last night was all about him and mostly cheers.
[1:51] That's not what anybody else heard.
[1:54] Let's let you hear it for yourself.
[1:56] This is that so-called mostly cheers, maybe from a different angle.
[2:10] I think Rachel called them salty, salty reception.
[2:13] Now, there's another explanation, though.
[2:17] It is possible that he didn't know how badly he was received.
[2:21] He appeared to take a little snoozeroo during the game.
[2:25] I think he might be the only person who was sleeping during last night's game.
[2:31] Trump's seven hours in New York City is as good of a way into talking about where his entire presidency stands.
[2:38] He appears to many Americans to be asleep at the wheel 17 months into his second term as president.
[2:44] His approval rating remains at near record lows.
[2:47] It's 35 percent in the newest poll at Reuters survey released yesterday.
[2:51] Americans say they are growing frustrated with Trump's economy.
[2:54] And despite Trump's best efforts to gaslight the American people about how he would like things to be,
[3:00] saying the same gaggle where he said it was amazing, his reception, not the game, or Jalen Brunson or Josh Hart or anybody else,
[3:09] just the cheers for him.
[3:11] That's what he was talking about.
[3:13] He also said that gas prices are, quote, not that high, relatively speaking.
[3:17] But at this point, voters aren't buying it.
[3:19] In that same Reuters poll, 70 percent of Americans disapprove of Donald Trump's handling of the cost of living.
[3:25] 59 percent of Americans say they expect gas prices specifically to get higher in the coming year.
[3:31] One MSNOW analyst, a former staffer from Donald Trump's first term, puts it like this, quote,
[3:37] The president has lost all credibility on the economy, the number one priority of the American people.
[3:43] He has lost control over the ending of the war.
[3:46] The administration is rudderless.
[3:48] Trump is enamored with being president, yet wants nothing to do with the job.
[3:54] After giving up on governing with no vision, the president has turned to what's simply in his line of sight.
[3:59] Event after unrelated event, speech after rambling speech.
[4:03] He is obsessed with what he perceives as the beautification of his D.C. bubble.
[4:09] He talks about fountains, his arch, his ballroom, a repainted reflecting pool, a UFC fight at the White House,
[4:16] and a partisan rally for himself after the failure of a planned concert on the National Mall.
[4:21] His appointees propose plastering his face on passports and on $250 bills.
[4:27] Banners with Trump's looming image adorn government buildings in Washington,
[4:31] while Trump rants about not being able to put his name on the Kennedy Center.
[4:35] The second Trump administration is already a lost cause, at home and abroad.
[4:40] He has made himself a lame duck president and is getting lamer by the day.
[4:44] Donald Trump dragging down America as his political impotence reveals itself in bouts of authoritarian fits and spurts.
[4:53] This is where we begin today with some of our favorite reporters and friends.
[4:57] Staff writer for The Atlantic, political analyst Ashley Parker is back with us.
[5:01] It's so nice to see you, my friend.
[5:03] Also joining us, former senior advisor to President Biden and Vice President Harris,
[5:07] the former mayor of New Orleans, Mitch Landers here.
[5:09] It's very nice to see you too, my friend.
[5:11] He's now the co-chair of American Bridge 21st Century.
[5:15] With me at the table for the very first time, former New York State Senator Daniel Squadron.
[5:19] He's the author of a must-read new book called The Fourth Branch, How State Government Can Save Our Union.
[5:26] We'll talk about that in a minute.
[5:28] I'll start with you.
[5:29] You're at the game.
[5:30] I was.
[5:31] Did they boo?
[5:32] No.
[5:33] Look, it was never going to...
[5:34] Can we talk about the game for a second?
[5:35] Like, it doesn't have to happen in four.
[5:37] We're going to win.
[5:38] We can't get greedy.
[5:39] You know, 53 years, let's let's let it come.
[5:43] It's coming.
[5:43] You know, it's coming.
[5:45] I will never say Knicks and whatever, just Knicks.
[5:47] Yeah.
[5:49] So I was at the game.
[5:50] Yeah, did they boo?
[5:51] Well, you need to be fair to the president.
[5:52] Yeah, no, some people cheered.
[5:53] I hear...
[5:54] There were three less popular people in that arena.
[5:56] Okay.
[5:57] The refs.
[5:58] Yeah, I know.
[5:59] Yeah.
[5:59] They got booed more.
[6:00] But beyond that, you know, I'd have to say the next loudest set of boos I heard was right
[6:06] there during the national anthem when the president's face came on the screen.
[6:09] And I mean, the thing about his face on the screen, and actually, this to me, as sort
[6:14] of an ex-staffer, I always think about the staff's decisions.
[6:18] If you never put his face on the screen, you could have said all the boos were for the
[6:23] refs.
[6:23] And you're right, there were enough.
[6:26] It's almost like the vanity is the thing that lets everyone else see how unpopular he
[6:31] is.
[6:31] But he's so...
[6:32] He's in this narcissistic hamster wheel where he couldn't resist having his face up there.
[6:37] So, of course, everybody booed.
[6:38] Well, of course.
[6:39] And, you know, maybe New York City is obviously not a Trump town.
[6:43] Maybe they were thinking lots of people are coming in from parts of Jersey and Long Island,
[6:47] you know, where he did a lot better.
[6:48] Those secondary market tickets are really expensive.
[6:51] There's industries where he did a lot better.
[6:53] But even when you would expect more popularity in that arena last night because of who was able
[6:59] to be there, the boos were still that loud, I think it's a real sign that his base is collapsing.
[7:04] Yeah.
[7:04] I mean, Ashley, you don't need one of your epic 36-door stories to know that, like,
[7:11] the pressure cooker is about to burst.
[7:13] I mean, this is...
[7:15] And I wondered this out loud around the State of the Union about his information loop,
[7:22] the caliber and the quality of information he's getting.
[7:25] To me, he seems on top of everything else in an information bubble.
[7:31] Like, he's just not hearing the truth about anything.
[7:34] Well, I'd say it's two things, right?
[7:38] He does have people around him, not everyone, but a lot of people who tell him what he wants
[7:44] to hear, who are sort of like little puppies depositing at his feet, you know, polls that
[7:49] wouldn't really pass muster on your network or my magazine that, you know, show him doing
[7:53] well.
[7:54] So there is some of that.
[7:55] But I actually think one thing that is so striking is what you actually played of him
[8:01] getting booed and then his response about the great reaction and how it was mainly cheers.
[8:07] And he has always had that ability to sort of will himself and often other people in the
[8:13] country, others around him, into that level of self-delusion and will his own reality.
[8:19] And it has served him well.
[8:21] And at the end of the day, it's kind of benign.
[8:24] If he wants to claim that all those boos were cheers for him, fine.
[8:28] But one thing that has been so striking about the recent months in his presidency is he has
[8:32] run up against the one reality he cannot will, which is voters know what gas prices are.
[8:40] Voters know how much it costs to go to the grocery store.
[8:43] Voters know if they are now going to two grocery stores to use all of their coupons or to get the
[8:48] best deals at each one.
[8:49] And they know how much money they have in their checking accounts or how much they don't at
[8:54] the end of the month.
[8:55] And this is the one thing, despite this long history and lifetime of willing reality,
[9:00] that he cannot will.
[9:01] And that is why he is paying a political price in his approval numbers.
[9:05] I mean, Mitch, I think it's that plus the wars.
[9:09] I was around someone who's been enamored with Donald Trump for a decade.
[9:14] And she still likes him a lot, but she hates the war.
[9:17] And so it's this triple betrayal.
[9:20] I think one is the economy.
[9:23] Two is the war.
[9:25] And three is the vibes are embarrassing.
[9:28] I mean, Gramps is asleep literally every time he's out in public.
[9:31] So God only knows what he's doing in private.
[9:33] Well, I think that if you if you ask people what they think, which is always a wise thing to do,
[9:39] they will tell you that the reason I voted for Donald Trump is because he said he was going to
[9:42] get out of forever wars because our investments in wars were hurting our pocketbooks.
[9:47] And he's actually tried to figure out a way to do the exact opposite of what he said he was going
[9:51] to do. And people feel betrayed, number one, because he lied to them again.
[9:56] But more importantly, the war is causing actually the cost to go up.
[9:59] And so these people are saying, wait a minute, I'm really confused about what you're doing.
[10:03] And you're focused on bombs and ballrooms, but you're not focused on my pocketbook.
[10:07] And I may care about democracy.
[10:09] I may care about a bunch of other stuff.
[10:10] But what I really care about is supporting myself, making my rent, making my car payment,
[10:15] putting food on the table for my kids.
[10:16] And they can't do that right now.
[10:18] And no matter how many times he says they're OK, they're telling him, no, you know, I'm not.
[10:23] And now I'm pissed.
[10:23] And so that is that is why we spent this much time talking to working class people,
[10:28] which actually swung the election in his favor and are really up for grabs.
[10:31] And we're going to go get them.
[10:33] And I think those people have been very clear about what they want, what they care about
[10:36] and why the president is not delivering for them.
[10:38] And they want to make a different choice now.
[10:40] And they want to make a different choice now.