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"we knocked out everything now some of the fake news would say oh we didn't do it fast enough you're from abc you're fake news go ahead the fake news media treats me very very badly look at all the fake news back there watch that's a lot of fake news the news the fake news has no credibility you..."
[0:01] we knocked out everything now some of the fake news would say oh we didn't do it fast enough
[0:06] you're from abc you're fake news go ahead the fake news media treats me very very badly look at all
[0:11] the fake news back there watch that's a lot of fake news the news the fake news has no credibility
[0:17] you know who's joking a big game the fake news media hi again everybody it's now five o'clock
[0:25] in the east as long as donald trump has been in the public eye donald trump has been obsessed with
[0:31] how he's seen by the public and through that he sees himself and how he's covered by the press
[0:39] as thin-skinned and narcissistic as they come donald trump is taking his decades-long war with
[0:44] the first amendment to new lows today a battle that started with smearing journalists as enemies
[0:49] of the people culminated over the weekend with a comical but dangerous war on the truth in the same
[0:55] way donald trump is going after people who exposed his no big contracts and failed refurbishments of
[1:01] the reflecting pool he's doing that now with the press who dare to cover the debacle with iran
[1:07] accurately last night he went on a tirade against journalists at the new york times calling out a
[1:13] news analysis piece with the title quote what changed after almost four months of war analysts say not
[1:19] much here's a little bit of what is in that piece of reporting quote neither the war nor the agreement
[1:26] ended what u.s and israeli officials regard as the main threats emanating from iran that country's
[1:32] nuclear program while heavily damaged was not eliminated its fate punted to future negotiation
[1:39] the same goes for its ballistic missiles which the deal does not address by saturday even the most
[1:44] significant immediate result of the deal iran's reopening of the strait of hormuz which trump had
[1:50] identified as essential seemed at risk end quote trump had his usual criticisms of that piece of
[1:58] analysis by saying it was fake and corrupt but then went further than that accusing the new york times
[2:05] of quote treason treason is a crime punishable by death and then said he would add this reporting to
[2:12] his already existing lawsuit against the new york times now nothing that they reported in that segment
[2:19] i read you has been disproven by the trump administration but what's on display here
[2:23] is that facts don't matter to trump he's a man who only believes good things about him to be true
[2:32] and anything else that is true about him must be a lie it's an extremely dangerous trait to have in
[2:39] any human being that anyone's in a relationship with but absolutely absolutely unprecedented in any sort
[2:48] of leader or public official because this is not a real estate deal that you can just you know change
[2:54] the numbers on our new golf course opening or a party at mar-a-lago this is a war with another nation
[3:02] 13 members of the u.s military have died more lives are at stake the global economy hangs in the balance
[3:10] and a country's nuclear future will be determined it's why it's such a big deal it's why it's covered the
[3:16] way it's covered accurately aggressively get hold on trump cares about it's how he looks
[3:23] and the stories about the war with iran and controlling the narrative to make himself look
[3:28] good not even clear what that means anymore with his own coalition turning so dramatically against the
[3:34] war and trump couldn't care less what is actually true we mentioned in the last hour his public
[3:41] declaration to his supporters it happened in the year 2017 he told them to ignore the truth and that
[3:48] statement remains as significant and frightening today as it did when he first uttered it just
[3:54] remember what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening i think the context there was
[4:07] tariffs but you could now take that and lay it over tariffs and the war in iran and the reflecting pool
[4:13] and the dead duck and on and on and on donald trump's ongoing war against the truth and why it matters to
[4:19] every one of us is where we begin the hour some of our favorite experts and friends staff writer at
[4:24] the atlantic tom nichols is here he's a professor emeritus of national security affairs at the u.s
[4:30] naval college naval war college also joining us military analyst lieutenant general mark hurtling's
[4:35] back he served as the commanding general of the u.s army in europe also joining us political analyst
[4:41] former senator claire mccaskill is here claire i want to start with you and the political pushback
[4:47] to someone so addicted to lies we've talked a lot about his coalition but i want to talk about the
[4:53] other side uh for once because what seems interesting to me is that you have high level defections
[5:00] from trump that show that this this strategy had a ceiling and a floor and i wonder what you think that
[5:10] presents in terms of opportunities for the other side democrats and pro-democracy advocates and
[5:15] independents and literally everybody else the 69 percent of americans who aren't approving of the
[5:21] job trump's doing as president well it it all is very you know first of all it's exhausting um for
[5:29] everyone and especially people who are paying close attention it's very exhausting uh the polling numbers
[5:36] show that the majority of the country is rejecting his stilted version of the world his falsy false
[5:44] information that he puts out on a daily basis and he is like in a hole and he can't quit digging so really
[5:53] the democrats just need to keep stressing the things that people really care about and trump is kind of
[6:00] making it worse every day um and i i i listen i read mark's article in the bulwark about the iran war and it is
[6:12] so insightful uh and he's right we talk about asymmetrical warfare all the time and nobody knows
[6:18] what it means this is a classic example of asymmetrical warfare and what he stresses in that article that's
[6:25] so important that trump has done and what most americans don't realize he has done is the permanent damage
[6:32] he has that iran the iran war has done to our relationships to our relationships with the good
[6:39] guys and the way he has handled himself with putin and chi and kim jong-un this is all about hurting our
[6:48] relationships with the good guys in the world hurting our standing that is where the most damage has been
[6:55] done is mark did a brilliant job of pointing out in his article today and i certainly hope i know you guys
[7:00] are going to talk about it but i had to get jump in there and praise it because i want everybody to
[7:05] read it that is paying attention because it's incredibly important the things he talks about
[7:11] it is a new world when it comes to military success because of the success of asymmetrical warfare
[7:17] by putin in ukraine and interfering in elections and now with this debacle in iran um general hartling i'll
[7:26] read from from um your piece which claire has set up perfectly for us um quote one thing is clear
[7:31] most of america's adversaries have largely concluded that defeating the united states militarily is
[7:37] unlikely because of that decades ago they began shifting the competition toward the very things
[7:42] that make american power effective the defining lesson of modern asymmetric warfare may be that
[7:48] america's adversaries have stopped trying to defeat us where we're strongest instead they seek to
[7:53] weaken the relationships confidence cohesion institutions and even the government that amplifies american
[8:00] power explain it's interesting i got my first uh swipe at this nicole back in 1998 when i was in the war
[8:10] college the kind of place that tom teaches at and first i ought to say thank you to my uh to my missouri
[8:17] former missouri senator and form and uh current only cardinal fan on ms now but we're the only two holding up
[8:24] that particular banner but uh what i'd say is i got my first taste of this in china uh i was there in 1998
[8:32] we were at the chinese war college in nanjing and we asked them about what their operational exercise was
[8:40] in the war college and the answer we got was they were uh portraying a re a brief take of desert storm
[8:50] but they were playing the iraqis to defeat the americans and they were using methods uh that the
[8:56] iraqis had not used uh in that particular conflict and what we've since come to know those as are
[9:03] asymmetric approaches and it's the application of strategy tactics capabilities and methods to negate
[9:10] an opponent's strength while exposing his weaknesses this is what we're seeing going on in iran right now
[9:17] you know some people think asymmetric attacks are like the planes on 9 11 or the ieds in iraq and
[9:24] afghanistan but this is a pretty large example of asymmetric warfare and it seems like people like
[9:31] secretary hegseth the president don't value places like the war college where tom's taught for so many
[9:38] years to talk about how military operations are evolving for the future and if we don't get it right
[9:46] it's going to come back to haunt us you can have the greatest military in the world but if you don't
[9:51] do the other things that our government needs to do you're going to be evaluated on how poor you are
[9:58] as a nation and how you're not coming together and other nations are going to threaten you and
[10:03] and in a world of complex threats it puts us in a really bad position