City Council — Jun 12, 2024

Good evening and welcome. The Wednesday, June 12, 2024 City of Plantation City Council meeting is now called to order at 640 p.m. Ms. Beggaroe, please call the roll. Council Member Anderson. Here. Council Member Andreu. Here. Council Member Fadgen. Here. Council Member Horland. Here. Council Member Reinstein. Here. Mayor Sortel. Here. City Attorney Ezra. Here. Thank you. Thank you. Tonight's invocation and pledge is going to be led by me, so if we could stand to pray. Almighty Father, we thank you for your continued abundant blessings upon this great city, state, nation, and upon all of your people. We ask that you bless these proceedings and all who appear before this council tonight as we deliberate the important business of the city. We pray for our police, firefighters, paramedics, doctors, nurses, teachers, and volunteers who all make our city the special place it is. We pray for the people who feel forgotten, underappreciated, burdened by the pressures of everyday life, that they feel your grace and that they know that they are loved. We pray for the people in the world that are suffering through conflict and that the powers be to find a path to peace. For all this, we ask in your holy name. Amen. Pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance. Mayor Sordal, we have a special event today. As you guys might know, Mr. Weiss and I have many discussions over disagreeing on things, and we are publicly declaring a truce. We both decided that things we're fighting about are somewhat silly, and as far as the school board goes, it's going to be 20 years. We can bang wheelchairs when we're in our 80s. This wasn't on the agenda. Anything to add? No, I just want to reaffirm our commitment to be a partner of the city. We don't want to take from the city. We want to give back to the city. I've expressed that to everyone on council, expressed that to the mayor, and that's all we're looking for. We just want to be a partner and help the city as best we can. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We will now go outside, smoke a peace pipe under the oak tree. Don't tell the chief. Thank you, sir. All right, so now we have a women's club presentation, right? You're up. Good evening. I'm Nancy DeZover, president of the Plantation Women's Club, and we have a couple presentations today. As most of you may have known, the first Saturday in May was a pretty busy day for the city of Plantation. We had the Garden Fest. We had the Fire Department golf tournament, and the Women's Club held the Volunteer of the Year luncheon, which what we do is we try to have people recognized from all the different volunteer groups in this city. Well, because it was the volunteer for, the day of the volunteer was also the golf tournament for the fire department, and the person recognized by the fire department being a good volunteer was volunteering for the fire department and couldn't be at the luncheon. So Kevin Kasten's here now. If Kevin had come up, and while he's walking up, I'd like to read the little write-up that we had in the presentation for all the volunteers. The city of Plantation proudly selected crew chief Kevin Kasten as the member of the year for 2023. Kevin's dedication to the city of Plantation and the fire department is evident in the things he does and the projects he takes on. He helped the fire department with a marketing plan and was also instrumental in the production of our recruitment video. These were two large undertakings that he volunteered for. Kevin also takes his role as crew chief very seriously at Station 5 and ensures that all members are trained in participating in required event. Kevin goes above and beyond and also serves as the Plantation Volunteer Fire Association treasurer. Kevin does all these while also being a family man with a wife and young daughter. For these reasons and many more not listed, we selected crew chief Kevin Kasten as the Plantation Fire Department member of the year for 2023. And from the Women's Club, we appreciate everything you've been doing. So on behalf, we'll give you the program that you missed. And Mayor, you want to give him the key to the city? This is the key to the city. This is the key to the city. It doesn't lock any doors, but... Small key! It's a small key, yeah. We changed locks recently. And this is the plaque that we present to everyone. And there's a small gift here from the Women's Club. Thank you for everything you've been doing. I'm going to take a picture. Put mom and dad there. Put Michelle right there. I'll be outside here. Here we go. Bye. I get to brag. Mom's a teacher. Call me now. Ah. Okay, now smile. Smile, Jesus. Thank you. We're good. Congrats, man. Thank you. I really appreciate it. Thank you for everything. Thank you. You're good? You're not giving us a check today, Vicky? Yes. Yes. We have two checks. Okay, we have two checks. One for police and one for fire. Both police. Both police. Oh, I'm sorry. Both of them are police department today. Chief doesn't look like he's here, so... So you guys will keep it and put general funds, right? Michelle? We'll let Michelle. I'm Michelle Voskowitz. I am the force vice president, the Women's Club, and community improvement projects, meaning I have the money. Please to provide you with tents and treadmills. Yes, ma'am. The only thing is we ask that on the tent that you use at Crime Scenes, you don't have our logo? Yes. Sponsored by... Yes, homicide, sponsored by the Plantation Women's Club. That's not a good marketing... And the second is the bike program. I think you should explain the bike program. Okay, sure. The Women's Club has sponsored the bike program, and we have it both at Plantation Elementary and at Peter's Elementary. This year, both schools, surprisingly, had 18 bikes each. And to see the kids' faces and over the... That they've won a bicycle. And the bike program stands for Be Intelligent, Kind, and Enthusiastic. And it's based on their third quarter grades, their conduct. And there's nothing better than having a young kid earn a bicycle. I think it helps that boy and girl further down the road. And as much as I root for the boys, the girls beat us every year. And no surprise again this year in both schools. But the Women's Club, thank you very much for the years of that sponsorship. And, of course, for both of these checks. So, thank you. Okay. Much appreciated. They're going to take a picture. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you, Chief. Thank you. Thank you. Anything else, Mayor? Yep, one more. Okay. And now I am delighted to present completion certificates to participants who participated in University Plantation. We've talked about this for years. You know, at League of Cities, you and I, our first year, we've talked about ways to educate our residents and to get more involved in everything. Laura Kay did a fantastic job of having everything together. The train ran smoothly. People learned and people had a good time. So, I'm very, very proud of how this worked out. And we have another one coming up in June. Or, July. July. So, if you, we've got a few more spots. If you know people, have them call Laura. So, I'm going to call them up, give them their certificate, and ask, they stay up here, and then we'll take a group picture. So, number one is Luxon Abraham. We'll do everybody. Thank you, sir. Thank you. You had a good time. Brenda Bannister. Appreciate you. Hope you had a good time. I had to get it. If we want. Okay. Ernest Bannister. Thank you, sir. Good to see you. Appreciate it. Maude Marie King Bruce. Can you know your face here? And you're wearing your green. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Francisco Carreras. Trying to think of the opposite of valedictorian, but you hung in there nice. Thank you. Good job. Appreciate it. Congrats. Vicky Gelfand. Congratulations. Thank you, Vicky. Vicky says she graduated with honors. I, you know, we would have discussions about material, and we would say, well, is Vicky going to get it or not? And if it cleared that bar, then we did it. No, I'm kidding. So, Nicole Hanna. Congratulations. Some of our realtors. And Jill Silver. Cyber. She's not here. And last is Elizabeth Small. Who is here. Your son's here. You want to tell us how to line up. You want everybody here? Right here? Okay. You want them? Counsel, you want to come down? How do you say that? Okay. Parks and Recreation update. Mr. Goodrich. Good evening, everyone. Phil Goodrich, Parks and Recreation Director. Upcoming events for the Parks and Rec Department. We have registrations all open for the 4th of July parade. The deadline of that is going to be June 20th. We are moving along as normal. We've got about the same registrants as we have normally at this time of year. But always, everybody, last minute rush as we get closer to it. So, they're open until the 20th, though. So, everybody get out there and please register with us. Thursday, June 13th is the end of school teen party at the Jim Ward Community Center from 5 to 7 p.m. Friday, June 14th, we have a Father's Day event at the Plantation Community Center from 6 to 8. Registration is full at this point. But if you happen to need a spot, you can always get on a wait list for that. Saturday, June 15th, the 2024 Pride Parade with the Plantation Fire Department is going to be participating in that. So, anybody who would like to come out and participate in that event as well are more than welcome. Monday, June 17th, first day of summer camp. So, we're ready to go. Tonight was supposed to be our first orientation for our camp staff. We did have to postpone it due to the weather, but we'll be ready to go. And we've got a good group of counselors ready to go. A lot of returners from previous years. So, we're really excited about kicking off this year for summer camp. Summer camps did fill up across the city very quickly this year. We do have a couple little small spots where we have some openings. But all in all, we're all set for that. Wednesday, June 19th, it is Juneteenth celebration from the city. So, our facilities will be open holiday hours. In the tennis department, Monday, June 10th, we have a junior development camp started. So, that was this past Monday we started a camp. Saturday, June 15th and June 16th, we have a USTA Level 6 Junior Tournament that we'll be hosting at the Valtteri Tennis Center. Monday, June 17th, sports camp begins. So, it's the same thing as our other camps, but this is a little bit more tennis and sports oriented that is held down at the Valtteri Tennis Center. And we do have a few spots still open in that camp. Saturday, June 22nd through Monday, June 24th is a Level 5 Junior Tournament that will be held at Valtteri Tennis Center. Saturday, June 22nd through Sunday, June 23rd, it is the Plantation, Parks, and Rec Foundation Pickleball Tournament out of the Central Park Pickleball Courts. Events for men's, women's, mixed doubles, so forth. Any information on that that's needed, contact Andy Rubenstein at 954-439-2900. For aquatics, Monday, June 10th was our start of our fourth session of swim lessons. In previous years, we've done about 300 to 400 swim lessons. This year, we're going to be on pace between our swim lesson program and the school program that we do. We'll be close to 1,000 swimmers that we're going to be teaching to swim. So, we're really, really excited about that. Chris Cooksey and the rest of the aquatic staff has done a fantastic job of promoting it, educating, and really getting out there, and we're really happy about that. Monday, June 17th, new summer hours for the pool, opening at 7 a.m. for the duration of summer camp, for anybody who wants to get out there early and swim. For athletics, PAL current registration openings are for file basketball and tackle cheerleading. And on the adult side of things, we have basketball is open for registration right now, and you can contact Melvin Johnson at 954-452-2507. Thank you. Okay, now we're at public request of council regarding municipal affairs. Those who wish to speak, we request that you complete a speaker form. If you have not done so already, please do. Please state your name and address. Please address your remarks to the council president, not the mayor, or individual members of the council. Please keep your remarks to the allotted three minutes. And first up is Mary Ann. Mary Ann Lambero at 466 Southwest 59th Avenue. Good evening, Mayor and council members. My family has resided in plantation for 55 years, and never in my wildest dreams, whatever thought to address you this evening would take place, or much less needed. My mother and father were constant volunteers, and if they knew what was going on, they would be here too, right beside me. Unfortunately, they're no longer with me. They'd be very disappointed in the city of Plantation. However, we're in very troubling times. From the sexual materials that are being pushed to the most vulnerable, our children, to now a whole month of sexual celebration. Pride, greed, lust, envy, glutton, wrath, and sloth are sins, I spelled out in the Bible. And the rainbow was seen around God's throne. These two terms, pride and gluttony, pride and rainbow, excuse me, have been hijacked. This is by design to eliminate our Judeo-Christian values and beliefs, and this community was founded on. What is pride, I ask, and why are we celebrating this? Plantation is a community of many religious and spiritual sects, and I would bet that a majority of the residents are not aware that plantation administration is allowing our name, plantation, to be part of a sexually explicit pervert parade this Saturday in Moulton Manors, with representation from our fire department. They call it pride parade. However, I came on with receipts of individuals depicted in this parade from last year, and trust me, I did not print out the ones that were really sexually explicit. But I don't think we want our names associated, plantation, with this type of event. I don't think I need to show you anymore. I think you've got an idea. I would like to know who in our volunteer fire department was such influence to participate, and do our fire trucks get driven in this event as well. Does anybody know? I'd like to know because my tax dollars pay for the maintenance and the gas that run those fire trucks. Was a resolution passed to participate in a parade of this manner. If people want to march in a parade that's sexually explicit, I call it a pervert parade, then by no means do it. This is a free country. Just take the name plantation out of this event. We do not need to be part of that. Thank you for your time. Mr. Conklin. Dennis Conklin, 4581 Northwest 6th Court. Heavenly hosts protect you and your families, if I may approach. By the way, next one is East Juneteenth. I used to always mention that now it's a national holiday. It's day 1,552 of martial law, the shutdown of churches, mask and shop mandates, loss of our unalienable God-given individual rights. Day 675 of the illegal FBI invasion of the Trump family home, violation of 4th, 5th, and 6th amendment rights. Day 316 of the arraignment and gag order of President Trump, violation of his First Amendment rights to free speech. Day 261 of the summary judgment of the President, no jury, Seventh Amendment violation, jury by a trial, jury of your peers. Day 250 of the Hamas military terrorist wing of the Muslim Brotherhood, terrorist organization, war against Israel, Israelis, Jews, and freedom-loving people. Day 119, violation of President Trump's 8th amendment rights. Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishment inflicted. Day 57 of the coordinated nationwide college jihad across 22 states, including three of Florida universities, FSU, UF, and USF, that's now into the streets, including the White House. Day 14 since President Trump was convicted of 34 made-up counts of reporting legal expenses instead of campaign expenses, that when, in 2016, Hillary Clinton did the same thing to protect President Clinton against intern rape charges, reported legal expenses instead of campaign expenses, but was selectively not charged. I'd like to request that the Declaration of Independence be read by 12 children of plantation schools. I would like to end a request to end spending for Marcombe LTD mandatory CRT training, which is DEI ESG, which basically pits Americans against each other because that's how they can defeat us. Request an end of all budget spending for electric vehicles and charging facilities. Request that the city join in the suing and recovering for losses and injuries and possibly deaths. May I extend two minutes? I'm sorry? May I extend two minutes for my requests? Yes. Thank you. It's been now revealed in the latest modified Hangout by Robert Redfield, who is the CDC director, that the shots were neither safe nor effective, and that's how they were proposed. So by the violation of that, it's a fraud. You can sue and recover. I always prayed that everybody here that was under the force of having to take the shot or lose their job, that they got the placebos. Request that Florida look into a bullion depository like Texas has. The TexasBullionDepository.gov. You can go and look at it. It still has to be set up for transactional gold and silver. That's the Article I of the United States Constitution, and it's Section 10. The reason I mention this is because in the CAFR for 2023, September, the city was holding $85 million in U.S. treasuries, and gold is worth $1,862 today. Gold is worth $2,330. So you're losing the spending power by those devalued dollars that you're holding in these currencies, I mean, not currencies, in these federal documents. This is a 25% loss from September 30th CAFR report to this day. And if you move your stuff around, you may be able to keep the spending power for the same amount of ounces of gold and silver, which is allowed by the Article I, Section 10. And I'll appreciate the document that I gave the president was the request that President Trump made that declassified the hurricane that was set against the president, and it was done by the five I's, and it's spelled E-Y-E-S. That's Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the U.K., and the U.S. intelligence agencies, because they cannot look into Americans. The FBI cannot look into Americans outside, but they can look outside, and they report back to the FBI. And basically it was crossfire hurricane that got them to cause the raid on President Trump's home. Thank you. I'll kneel back, and I appreciate the extended time. Thank you. Mr. Nguyen? Joe Nguyen, 944 Northwest 92nd Terrace. Good evening, everybody. I'm so glad everybody was able to make it out safely this evening, and I hope everybody is able to make it back home safely and that you have no roof leaks or anything like that, and that your pool isn't in your living room. So first off, I'm going to speak on some of the things of the MMTP workshop just as a refresher and centering those. I did just want to say that the idea of living your truth and celebrating that regardless of who you choose to love or who you are born to feel and be, that is a decision of yourself, and I applaud the city for supporting people as who they are, and it's not oppressing any of that. That said, on the MMTP, I just want to go through some points that we had discussed and make sure that we're all on the same page. I really appreciated everything that members of the council shared. I'm so excited, and just really, it's touching to see how much you guys have appreciated the needs and the desires of being out on roadways while not being in cars. First off, RFBs versus hawks, meaning the flashing lights versus the signal. The hawk beacons, whenever you can, please avoid them. Any signal for a car that needs an instruction manual is a bad choice. The only reason they were developed is because the warrant studies for traffic lights are a whole thing, and those didn't fall under that, so they were considered like the easy middle ground. They're not easy. The only thing good about them is that you have a middle ground literally in that you have a protected refuge area. Beyond that, I choose not even to use them when I'm out off of the greenway because I've seen vehicles there just not know what to do, and I don't want to be in front of them when they don't know what to do. I prefer raised crosswalks, but either way, could we consider maybe using in-road lighting alongside so that instead of just having the lights on the side, we have lighting along the roadway as well embedded in the road versus the 30 to 35 miles per hour? I would be fine with 35 personally as long as the roadway is a design speed of 35, not just posted. I understand the 30 might feel a little slow there. Let me jump through. Let's see. So as far as the delays on the clearing Pond Island right lane, currently traffic moving forward often blocks access to that lane, so it may negate any benefits of preserving it. Overall priorities, I think crosswalks with refuge areas, a pedestrian bridge for the canal into the hiatus greenway, roundabouts where possible that naturally reduce speeds, protected bike lanes, overshadows, and stormwater management is generally easier with less of a single slab of asphalt, and if we're going to reward students with bicycles, which is fabulous, let's make sure we have safer and more wonderful places for them to be. Thank you. Thank you. I don't have any other speaker forms for public comment. Is there anybody who would like to speak in the chamber that didn't fill out a form? Last call. Public requests of council regarding municipal affairs are now closed. Consent agenda. The consent agenda consists of items 1 through 9 and may be approvable in a motion. Does any member of the council wish to pull an item? I would like to pull item 2. Is there any members of the public that wish to pull an item? Can I have a motion? Motion to approve items 1 through 9, minus 2. Second. Ms. Beggarow, please call the roll. Council Member Anderson? Yes. Council Member Horland? Yes. Council Member Reinstein? Yes. Council Member Andrew? Yes. Council Member Pradgen? Yes. I guess this will be Charles. I'll never understand software licenses. Neither, that makes two of us. I mean, this is, I believe it's from Microsoft Office 2021, correct? I'm going to have to defer to John because he will know more about it. All right. Good evening, John Monofuska IT Director. Yes, it is. Okay. Don't go anywhere. $300 a license. I just don't get it. Like, my office, I have six licenses. I'm not spending $300 a license. I don't understand, and I'm not using 2021. I'm using the most current license. So, I just don't understand, like, why is it $300 a license? And do all 120 licenses have to be the full package? Like, I've got to think that most of the usage is probably Word and Excel. Like, what's coming in with this Office 2020? I'm assuming it's Outlook. Well, okay. Word, Excel, Outlook. But that's a cloud-based one for us, isn't it? No. Or is that? We're on-prem with our Outlook, with our exchange, and that's the price we get from Microsoft as an enterprise user. It's not an open market price. So, SHI International is Microsoft? Is our reseller. We have to have a reseller to communicate with Microsoft. They don't deal with companies directly. So, it's all or nothing. We can't, like, does everyone need PowerPoint? Does everyone need- The package we buy, it comes with to pull it out. I don't even know if- there may be a lower one, but I'd have to research that. I don't know if there is a lower package. But it's also for the five-year life of the computer. If we were to go to an O365, that would be about $30 a month, $360 a year. You would be five times the cost over the lifespan of the computer that you're getting with the software for. So, it's unfortunately the- The entire life. If you want to look at it at a five-year price, so you can roughly $60 a year to use the product. Well, that- Okay, that changes a little bit. Correct. Good comments. All right. Motion to approve. Thank you. Second. Is there any public comment? Ms. Begaro, please call the roll. Council Member Anderson? Yes. Council Member Moreland? Yes. Council Member Reinstein? Yes. Council Member Andreu? Yes. Council Member Fadgen? Yes. Thank you. Legislative item. I believe we're going to speak, talk about items 10 and 11 together. City Attorney Israel, should we read the ordinance for 11, or can we wait until we're ready to vote on it? You can wait. Okay. So, item 10 is RSSP number 005-24, speed detection camera system for school zones and term contract. And then item 11 relates to the ordinance regulating the use of automated speed detection systems in the school zones. Laura, you're up. Good evening, Mayor, Council President, members of the City Council. So, what you have in front of you today are two separate but related items. One item, item number 10, is the co-op agreement with RSSP for the services for automated school zone speed enforcement. And approval of this item would allow the city of plantation as well as other local entities to utilize red speed services should they elect to implement red speed, I'm sorry, school zone speed enforcement programs. The plantation would serve as an agency who manages this contract. However, the approval of the contract itself does not implement or create the program for the city of plantation. That would be done by passing an ordinance that is also on your agenda for consideration as item number 11. The primary goal of the automated school speed zone enforcement program is to help our law enforcement, our police, to curb speeding in school zones and improve safety. And that is done by deploying devices that automate school zone speed enforcement and it tends to change driver behavior. We expect that the cost of running this program would be fully covered by the violators with no fiscal impact on the city taxpayers. To establish automated school zone enforcement program, the state statute requires that the city council consider traffic data and other evidence to determine if an increased risk exists at each of the school zones that are considered for the program. And you will see the traffic study that's been provided to you in a backup for item number 11 for your consideration as you get to that point. So the first of the two items, item number 10, is for the, again, for the agreement. And this item is presented to you as a legislative item because the statute requires that it is not considered as part of the consent agenda. And the statute also requires that the public is allowed to comment on this item. The representative from the highest ranked firm, Red Speed, the representatives are here and they're available to answer any questions that you have about their services. Police chief, procurement director, and city staff are also at your disposal as you consider these items. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Andrea. Thank you, President Fadgen. Did you say co-op agreement? So if you could elaborate on that. Yes, I'll clarify. Charles Spencer, procurement director. So the city of Plantation was the lead agency that solicited for these services, and this contract would serve also as a cooperative agreement so other agencies can use this agreement. But we took the lead on it, so we went through the procurement process. And then I did not see, and please correct me if I just missed it, but there were three other vendor proposals. I didn't see what their split was. So the vendor that's being suggested for award had a 65 city, 35 vendor split. But I was curious to know what the split was for the other vendors. And then while you're looking for that, if I can ask you to, the comment was made about not having an additional burden on staff. So let me preface this by saying I am very much in support of the speed detection camera system for the school zones. I also realize this will be revenue generating, but I don't know if it's a fair assessment to say that it won't be an additional burden on staff, because I think that the records request, I can imagine that that will now increase. And also the officers will have to, and mentioned in the proposal, do a review. There will be more court appearances. So I guess my main question, was Chief a part of the evaluation committee, and are we prepared for that? If there is an additional burden on staff, are we prepared for that? I'm sure Chief can answer to the burden question. To answer the question, Chief was not a part of the selection committee. He was a non-voting resource, as we would say. But there was representatives there from PD. Was it Deputy Chief? Fowler. It was Deputy Chief Fowler. Well, it was Captain at the time, but he's Deputy Chief now. He can keep track of those. It's hard to keep track of those. As for the additional information related to the revenue split on the other firms, that information is not provided in your backup documentation, but can be provided if you so desire to see the full scale of the evaluation and all the submitters relating to their split. It was incorporated along with other criteria on that was scored fairly, but it was a part of the information. I'll be more than happy to share that spreadsheet with you all. Was this particular vendor, did they have the largest split? They did not have the largest split. As you're saying, the city would get the largest amount of revenue. Correct. No, they were not the largest. But I will say amongst the three highest rank firms, they were within maybe a dollar of each other, if that's a fair way to say. Okay. Yes. Thank you. And then, Chief, if you could just elaborate a little bit and let us know if you feel like this will be an additional, if there are any additional constraints in terms of staff. No, I don't believe so. The person that's going to review the citations is actually going to be a service aid, which is covered under the statute. There is an additional service aid in the upcoming budget. And from a record standpoint, depending on what the request is, it could be Red Speed answering that, or it could be the police department. And it would not be a burden on our part. And even for the officers to have to go to court? Well, it would actually be the service aid. Oh, the service aid will be the one? And again, depending on the challenge. Okay. If it's a challenge of the system itself, Red Speed will be at the hearing. And it depends on, again, on the hearing, if it goes before the magistrate or if it turns into a uniform traffic citation, then we would be going to. So if they don't pay it, it turns into a unified? Uniform traffic citation. Uniform. Yes, sir. Okay. And a difference, obviously, in the cost of the citation as well as the points that go with that. If it turns in, I'm sorry. No, thank you. With the uniform traffic citation, that turns into points? Yes, sir. Okay. Yeah. And a big difference, because we've discussed some of this already, but there's a big difference between what you're going to be paying for the civil penalty versus a uniform traffic citation. To give you an example, 11 miles an hour or greater would be $306 in an active school zone. If it's a non-activated school zone and it's just speeding on that roadway, it's $206. So when it turns to a uniform traffic citation, it gets escalated. So what happens to the $100 fee that's gone? Because, like, for a uniform traffic citation, we get, like, $2 of that, right? Right. So we no longer get this 65 percent? It's gone. I believe so. Okay. I'm sorry. You brought up a jump in. Council Member Reinstein. Thank you very much. Two questions, and I don't think it's for you, Chief. Okay. Thank you. The one is regarding the hours of operation of the camera system in terms of – oh, maybe it's for Chief. Thanks. I didn't see a specific breakdown as to whether it was only during school hours or whether it was outside school hours as well. Good question. Actually, it's 30 minutes prior to school and 30 minutes after the end of school. Now, it is active the entire time span of when the school is in session. The difference here is that the 11 miles an hour in an active school zone is going to be 26 miles an hour. So if it's not an active school zone, you still have a school zone there, and it will be – if it's a 30-mile-an-hour zone, anything 41 miles and above will be given the citation. So it's the whole school day, and the reason for that, too, kids come and go all day from those schools. Some kids might be sick and finally feel a little better, and 10, 11, 12, 1 o'clock decide that they're going to go to school. It's – So, Chief, let me ask – and actually, let me also make – I should have done that first. Let me make a disclosure is that I did speak to Mr. Matthews, who's present from Becker, regarding this matter. Sure. In terms of hours of operation, though, I just want to clarify is that so other than the 30 minutes before school hours and the 30 minutes after, is that after that, this camera system is not operational? Is that correct? We're not writing citations after that, no. I would assume that the system would still be active. That would be something for Red Speed to answer, but it wouldn't be something that we're acting on. So, I would like clarification on that from Red Speed, but let me ask a separate question while – before they come up. Is that – I just want to also clarify is what I read in the contract, and this one may not be for you, is that it can be terminated for convenience, for cause, or for mutual termination, which in essence means that it can be terminated for any reason whatsoever. No cause is needed other than the 30-day written notice. Is that correct? That's accurate. Okay. I thought that's what it said, but I want to make sure to put that out there. So, if Red Speed can answer the question regarding hours of operation when it's not the 30 minutes before, during school time, and the 30 minutes after. Yes, Councilman. I'm Greg Parks with Red Speed. Thank you, Mayor, President, Council. Pleasure to be here. The direct answer to your question, I'm happy to answer any, and maybe clarify a couple of the earlier ones if needed. Citations would be issued from 30 minutes before school through the day, school day, to 30 minutes after, as the chief stated, 11 over the respective speed limit at the time. For the reasons the chief stated, the legislative intent, people don't arrive, there's not a force will, they stop arriving, things that you're aware of, but 31 minutes after, no citations can be issued. The cameras still can capture a crash, an alleged crime to assist the police, but no citations can be issued. So, I appreciate that clarification, although I'm not sure I'm getting actually the answer that I'm asking. Well, please let me do better, then. Sure. No, no, it's my fault. Let me clarify. Is that the camera, though, is still operational, so that after that 30-minute time period, throughout the rest of the day, and even if there's no school in session, so we're talking about outside hours that are- Basically 24-7. So, 24-7, that camera is operational and is collecting- To assist the police in other areas. And it's collecting data. That's correct, yes. For the police, not us. Is there an ability to prevent it outside of those school hours, the 30 minutes before 30 hours? Absolutely. We work for you. We follow your direction. Okay. Good. Thank you. And if I could clarify, President, that on the UTC, you still would- The $100 still would- The only additional cost is the court costs from Broward County courts of $100 and some dollars. The city would still get its 60. We'd get our part and be distributed to the school system. All the statutory things. Okay. Thank you. Councilmember Horland. Thank you, Mr. President. Hi, Mr. Parks. How are you this evening? Good. I've got a couple. I want to make a statement and just clarify my understanding, and I do have a couple of questions for you. Yes, ma'am. Obviously, our priority up here is to make sure that the community is safe, and I know that my colleagues feel strongly about that, as I do. Also, the public trust is a very tender thing, and I think it's something that we have to respect. And I think we've seen with, whether it's red light cameras or speed cameras, the public does often concern, especially with the revenue structure of this program, that it's a money grab for either the city or for the private vendor. So I want to make sure that we talk about the safety aspects. Yes, ma'am. Because that is the most important thing tonight. What I want to just address a little bit, and I wanted to just ask a couple of questions, because we use this as a deterrent, and I know you're going to be a big part of the campaign that we will put out there to educate the public about this. Yeah, I'd love to discuss that part. Yes. So let's talk about that, and then I can get into my questions. But one other thing that I did want to ask you, in the state statute, was there any requirement for consistency with FDOT for the notification of these signs within the zone? Yes. The size, the verbiage is specified in FDOT installation and placement guidelines. Okay, good. Because the reason I ask that, because the city of Plantation specifically deals with a lot of pass-through traffic. So we want to make sure that if people are traveling through our city and into other cities, that they're aware of what that is. No, the verbiage size placement is mandated by FDOT guidelines, and also in the statute, I worked on the law for three years. We're really pleased, and it's way different than red light. I'd be happy without taking your whole night up to discuss the improvements from a law that needed improvement. Right. A 30-day warning period is mandated each time a new school is brought on board, and a robust public education awareness campaign is mandated, and we greatly exceed that. Professionally produced PSAs for your website, social media, mailers to go home with the kids, social media, earned media, paid media. We don't, sadly, don't need to surprise anyone. We want, and to the safety aspect, I don't want to get out of my lane. I'm going to try to stick to your questions. That's what I'm here to do. But the safety aspects, there's a great benefit that a nearly identical law has been in place in Georgia for six years. Nearly, kudos. I was going to get there. Nearly identical. It's an hour before to an hour after, and that's about the only difference. We operate the majority of the programs there, many communities similar to plantation. We consistently see a 90-plus percent reduction in speeding documented, and over a 90 percent do not get a second citation. The behavior modification is great. And as the chief alluded to, you have a great police chief. He's okay. He went to South Plantation High, but that's a city thing. You got me there. The fine is much lower, as the chief alluded to, and there are no points. But we still get the behavior modification. I think it's sort of the needle that it is not hurting the motorist, for lack of a better word, is punitive. Right. But you're seeing actually greater behavior modification. And briefly on the staffing, there is the requirement, and thankfully a customer service person can do it. But this is supported by the Florida Police Chiefs Association and the International Association of Chiefs of Police. And their term is force multiplier, that instead of sitting in a school zone, it frees up your great officers to respond to emergency calls quicker, to do community policing. So it overall has a positive impact on staffing from our perspective and those two organizations. So if I may, Mr. President, I just got a question. Sorry if I got off. No, no, that's great. And I was going to bring up the Georgia law, and I think since it's been in place since 2018, you've been able to work out. It's a large sample size that is very meaningful, we think. And I know that in the General Assembly last year, they had one of the bills about the uniformity of the signs. And so that's why I asked you that question to see if you've worked out some of those cases. Yes, ma'am. When we talk about, and obviously the chief addressed the fact that the fine is lower, I did see in this contract we are not, it's not escalating. So a repeat offender is not going to get an escalating fine, correct? That's correct. The fine and the distribution of the fine to the governing body, to the state, to the school system for crossing guards, and to FDLE for training is all statutory mandated. Okay, because I've seen other states have done that. My question is, and I know that they can go to the uniform traffic citation if they don't pay this. Say we have that person that does not matter their behavior and they're a repeat offender, and they're just not paying the fines because they're not getting the points. So say that escalates. Do they get the UTC after the first one, or do they start to accrue fines, and is there anything else that Red Speed does? For instance, have there been cases where, as a private company, you could put a lien on someone's vehicle if they have it financed? We would act as the agent for the state in doing that. We would do that ourselves. Again, I'll try and be brief and stick to the direct question. But the alleged violator certainly has rights to contest, and that's spelled out clearly on their notice of violation. Again, having the large sample size of 70 customers for six years, we document everything. If you can't document it, you can't make it better. You can't report up to the decision makers. We're seeing less than 2% in Georgia request adjudication because it is a very fair law. There's visual evidence. There's no points. There's no insurance. But in Florida, the alleged violator can pay it, or they have two options. They can have a local hearing, or they can go to Broward County Court for UTC. If they don't pay it locally, if they elect a local hearing and don't pay it, they have a plate hold by the state to put on. And I think you renew every two years or on your birthday in Florida. I don't live in Florida. But whatever that is, you could renew your plate without paying it. And in your example, if you get a UTC, and that typically, very few people, in our experience, request to go to county court. It's not a rational thing, typically. But if they ignore it, the 31st day, by statute, it becomes a UTC. And as opposed to a plate hold, if they are found guilty and don't pay the UTC, there are not points assessed. But they have that, Florida is unique. If you don't pay a lot of fines, you have a driver's license, suspension, and you can pay the $60 reinstatement and the fine. So both have heavy teeth in them, fair, and can easily be fixed by the alleged violator to cure it. But direct answer, again, I'm sorry if I'm going on too long on these, that local hearing would be a plate hold for a nonpayment, and Broward County Court would be a UTC and a driver's license suspension, but no points, and can be cured by paying the $60 reinstatement fee and the fine. Okay, great. Now, listen, we want to get this right. If this contract gets approved tonight, so we want to make sure that all these questions are answered. The agreement mentions the live video feed, and that was kind of alluded to. And I actually had a conversation with the chief today, and we ran through some of those scenarios. I like that there is the ability for us to tie into that live video feed, or you provide it to us. There has been instances where school is on a lockdown because there's been a robbery in the area. And so I see that as I've been an advocate, an advocate I think many of us have for smart, more smart technology within the city. As our city grows, our law enforcement can't be everywhere. And as you said, they can be deployed to some of the hot spots and something that's more pressing. But I like the fact that we can have that, and it's a sense of being able to have eyes on a situation that perhaps we would not. So I do like that those cameras can be accessed if needed. Yes, ma'am. You know, assuming that you don't direct this differently. Right. That would be the way this is going to be said. We might have to battle that out up here, but that's okay. We'll have the discussion. We're good either way. We work for you. But, yes, it certainly would be something that would be expensive to your taxpayers to buy that and implement it. And in the instance of an incident at the school from a crash to, God forbid, something worse to a protest or anything that the police would want to see from anywhere with permission, it is a great tool. But, again, it's at the direction. But we provide that at no cost. Right, similar to our LPRs, which we have already. Well, those come also if you're directed to do. Right, we could tie into that. Yeah, where if a wanted vehicle is in the school zone, the police would be notified. And, again, if we want to talk about privacy rights, you don't hold on to that video for an extended period of time. No, it's the Florida record retention. Okay. It's pretty strict. Very great. I'm going to wrap up here. Pole mount camera or speed cabinet? What are we looking at? Pole mounting. Pole mounting? Okay. And I think my last question for you, and the chief, we were talking about it today, FDOT calibrates the flashing lights on the school zone sites? Yeah, we have no role in the flashing lights. So my question for you is, sometimes things go awry, if there is a calibration issue, and say that I've seen the lights very infrequently where they're not timed properly. It doesn't happen often. But in that situation, what would be your mitigation? Well, if we're made aware of that, we'll certainly dismiss any immediately. Okay. And we also will provide at our expense, and Broward County may have it too, each community is different, but if they don't, we'll fund it. There's two made, and the vendors are Glance and RTC, that's probably not relevant to this, but that can provide a log for court or for police documenting the flashes were on or not, and then what times, and that they were timed correctly. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Parts. I just want to say, before I turn it over, I've taken up a lot of time, but I'm in support of this. I just, as I said, want to make sure that we get it right. I wanted to share with my colleagues, for another issue, I pulled the first three months of crashes in the city. So January through March, I think you might be interested to know, we had 763 accidents, 2,600, over 2,600 citations issued, and 925 warnings citywide. So when you think about the possibility that we don't have to have law enforcement at these school zones, they can go address those cities. So those other sites, I think it makes the city safer as a whole, as long as we implement it correctly. So thank you, Mr. President, for the time. Thank you. Council Member Anderson. I unfortunately did not get to call ahead of time, but this was good information, and a lot of it's been answered, so I'll try to skip through it. So I'm open to this, but I do not want this to come across like a money grab or a red light camera, and we do not have those in plantation. So I really want to, and trust me, school principal for many years is still an educator. So, but I also, my entire career, have had to go through school zones and have worked within one for 34 years. How many tickets? Never one. Never one. Knock wood. In a school zone during whatever. I understand, I understand. It's always on the highway on the turnpike, but we won't go there. It was an airplane. That's how they got me. It was terrible. Oh, it was that worst. So you just named a lot of crash data, but how much is happening during arrival and dismissal at a school? So we can say there's a lot of bad things, but if we're trying to, the problem we're trying to fix is that problem exists. I want that well defined before, because we're giving up some rights here, and I want, if we're going to give up rights, I want to have a really good gain for those rights we're going to lose. It's a balance we have to do for the public. So that's something I need a little more convincing. It says it will operate on during school zones and during school days and during school hours. I assume you're tying to the flashing light and so forth, but what about a modified schedule because of hurricane days, early release days, or makeup days because of hurricane days where we change the calendar? So that kind of was covered, and I assume you're pretty dialed in. And if it was ever wrong, you would discuss. But I assume that's all been accounted for, and if there's ever a correction to make, you guys waived it. Yeah, we lived that with COVID in Georgia, the one-off closings. And, again, not to even interrupt you, please. The calendar's preloaded in, early release days, holidays, and then for the one-offs, like an early release day, weather day. We have two humans review the alleged citation for quality control before it's sent to your police department for final approval. They will be made aware if school is not in that day. Then your police personnel should be aware that school is not in that day and not approve it. And nobody's perfect. If, God forbid, something slips through, then all the alleged violator has to make us aware of that, will confirm it and dismiss it. So what about summer school? You know, you go from 200 and however many schools down to a much smaller fraction. Again, I assume you're following a flashing because it's already been pre-identified way out, and Epidot and others know which school zones are active, so, therefore, you would know which plantation – it would be a fraction of the plantations. That's correct, yes. And, again, it would be dialed in and tight. Okay. So let me skip over some of those. You talked about it is 30 minutes before arrival, all during the day, up to 30 minutes after. But I'm pretty certain the yellow flashing lights an hour after and an hour before, so we'll only be ticketing less than – The House Bill 657 mandates the hours we can operate. But it says at any time during school days. So let me just go over an odd thing. It's summertime, and summer school is open. I'd say school day in some areas in the city. Will that only be active at those places? That's correct. School has to be – instructional classes have to be taking place. Anywhere in the city or county or in that zone? Each individual site. And as far as summer school – so if school's not in that day, there is no enforcement. That's axiomatic. There's no exceptions. At this location. At this location. If Plantation High School does not have instructional classes, there will be no enforcement. And as far as summer school, House Bill 657, the enabling legislation, does allow for summer school enforcement. Some of our customers elect to do that. Some don't. We work for you. We follow your direction. But independent of whether you all direct us to enforce at summer school or not, just to make sure I directly – properly answer your question. Instructional classes have to be taking place at that specific school to enable enforcement to be possible. Let me – I'm trying to skim over. You covered a lot. You're doing – I appreciate your time for all of us. This is for 10 – it's – I heard you – it's over – it's 10 miles – I heard you say 11. Is it splitting hairs? Is it anything – anything 10 miles plus a fraction? If anything 10 miles an hour and less will not – it's – So it's 10.1 and up or whatever. The magic number is 11. So 11. It's a whole number. Yes, right. If you're – hypothetically, you're going 25 miles an hour, they're not writing – we're not writing a – citation. You go 26 or writing a citation. I hate 26. Personally, do we have – and do we have the ability – I think – I'm sorry. I read this like both times I read this. It was very late at night and I wrote notes. It's not – I'm not retaining it, but I can read it. But we as a city of a right, can we turn off certain areas that we deem not as – can we adjust it later on? Can we choose to say we want – because here's what I'm getting at. I would love very, very, very strict enforcement during active arrival and dismissal. But during the day, when we – now we have like double and triple fences. And by the way, I actually disagree. There's almost never a student just randomly arriving without a parent during the middle of the day. They just – don't just show up and say, hell, I'm at school at 11 a.m. Hi. They don't. A parent has to drive them in and sign – yes, maybe at high school. You're correct. I was an elementary principal. And I was referring to South Plantation High School. Yes. At least brought – they bring donuts or bagels, but, you know. Right. So I'm thinking elementary. They don't – they don't – that's so rare. But it could happen in high school. Maybe in the middle. Now you may lose my train of thought. I think this would have been terrible with our open lunches back in the day. So I want to be very strict. I would – I really think we need to be very strict during arrival – during the flashing yellow times because that's when the kids are coming. And the worst times, actually, to me, I've actually always think it's crazy. If school starts at 8 and the school zone stops right at 8, that is the most dangerous time because parents are rushing and kids are rushing and they're running across the street and they forgot their backpack and they turn back and the mom's already turned looking away and they're stepping on the gas and the kid's coming out. That – that – that – it really should be – it does not need to be a whole hour before. That's – that's really an FDOT question. The yellow light should not be an hour before. It should be about an hour, but it should be encompassing 15 minutes past arrival because that's the most dangerous time by far. I don't think that's the statute, though. It's not. But – but we're talking about safety. It just got me on a tangent. We can tell. Well, that's – we're talking about safety and we're – this is supposed to be about safety. And I guess so I want strict enforcement during arrival and dismissal. But once the day is going – I've got to be honest, I just drive – the light changes and I drive about what the – what the traffic's going. And I don't always look at the signs. We're kind of on autopilot. We drive our roads all the time. And you – I bet people will be surprised. He'll change that behavior. My behavior's fine. No tickets. I already said that. What I'm getting at is people – if it's 10 miles over and it's not a flashing zone and no school's in session and there's no traffic and they're just driving blissfully and aware, we could be banging tickets all day long and we're not doing anything for safety. Remember, the speed limit on Peters Road is 40 miles an hour. Yeah. So if it's during school session, not an active school zone, you have until 51 miles an hour on that road. That's a great – that's a – that's bust them all day long. But a lot of school zones are in a residential area and they're in tertiary roads where it's like 35. But – and I would – and that's a – that's a good question. So you look at something like – and it's in your packet, Northwest 72nd Avenue in front of Mirror Lake Elementary. Yeah. So there are 62 violators there in the study. Well, you're going to get a halo effect here, although we may not put cameras on 72nd Ave. They're going to think everywhere around. But on 11th and 70th Ave, you're going to have them because the data clearly shows the need for that. So I – I think once this gets started – and again, our goal is to eliminate no violations. That would be fantastic. But from a manpower standpoint – Yeah, I like that. In the last two calendar school years, we have written 821 citations and 404 written warnings. And what time period? That's over two calendar school years. I've got seven police officers and a sergeant in the traffic unit. And one of those seven officers is our DUI guy on night shift. So – and the number of complaints we have throughout the city, I can reallocate those services elsewhere. And it would – it would definitely free us up. By the way, the numbers that – what said you had 100 – I got it. I – you said we had 100 – I think it's 62. Yes. Mirror Lake, Northwest 72nd Ave, 62. Yes. Mirror Lake, Northwest 72nd Ave, 62. Yeah. For that half hour before through the day to a half hour after. And 11 over the respective speed limit. No. Not the dollars. It was 100 drivers daily. It was – there it is. School speed zone study was conducted during the weeks of May 20th to May 24th. 16 zones were evaluated. Yes. The study showed that on average more than 100 drivers exceeded the posted speed limit by 11 or more miles per hour at 15 zones. So that – just the way that's written, does that mean it was 100 aggregate across all 15 or 100 average or 100 each? Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Councilman. That – per school. Per school? Yeah. A hundred per day. So 500 in the week at each respective school at whatever number of the respective schools you stated. Now, again, our empirical evidence from very large sample size. We'll see. That will be down 95 percent – 90 to 95 percent. Okay. Relatively quickly. Okay. Very low repeat violator rate. And you will find two. And this has more merit to various councils. But we track this, too. Again, we're very data-driven to report back to you on the success through your police department program. The majority will be non-residents because it is well-signed. You'll see people here. Those are people that are not contributing to your community tax-wise things but are endangering their resources. So I've drank the Kool-Aid. I believe in the program. I did not know that was that – I thought it was 100 divided by 15, which was like six. That would be at each respective school. And I'm like, is this – are we giving away a lot of rights to not get a lot out of it? And it was a money grab. So I'm getting – you're warming me up. And I really love how your officers can focus on much more important things. Yes, sir. So, Mike, no further questions. Okay. That brings up some other point that reminds me. If I may just add that 100 average per day was the lowest out of the 15 school zones, actually. If you look at the Seminole, Middle, and Tropical Elementary, we had 14,800 violators for five days that the traffic was measured. That's the highest. So that's the range. In both of those schools this year, it has the summer school. So in the backup, it was talking about videoing or photographing. It sounds through this conversation it's a video. That's correct. We use all video because it's fairer to the alleged violator and it's better evidence. It's a movie instead of a snapshot. And then is it the same as the license things where the retention of the data – what is that? Is it 30 days unless there's something tagged saying that they need it for evidence? 45. It's 45 days. But we follow all four to retention guidelines. So there were 16 zones assessed. Did I read it correctly? We identified 10 of the zones are a heightened risk. Is that the right terminology? 15, President. There was 15 zones and 10 were identified as heightened or – No, I think there were – I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. Oh, I don't – No, no, no. Like, so some – let's just say like on Central Park Elementary you got Nob Hill and then you have Cleary. Is that two different zones or is that considered – Yes. Each direction would be a zone. Okay. And as I'm looking at this – Chief, do you want to answer that? I'm sorry. 15 of 16. So Central Park you have Cleary Boulevard and then again you have Nob Hill Road. Okay. All right. So I'm going to ask the question again because I got confused. So how many zones did we assess and how many zones did we determine were a heightened risk? We assessed 16 and the data documented there were 15 that would meet the standard of a heightened safety risk. So 15 of the 16 are considered heightened. Yes. The independent annual calibration test, who bears that cost? I believe you guys do. We bear all costs in our split. Your costs are your staff time. Direct answer is we pay for that. Okay. Your corporate headquarters is in Illinois. That's correct. Yes. And I see you have local offices or South Florida offices. Yes, sir. Where does the money go? Illinois? The money – the exact – you mean our portion or would you like to go through the entire – Well, I understand the split. I'm talking about like your 65% or $31. $21 per ticket is the easiest – What's that? $21 per ticket is the easiest way to frame it. Obviously, some goes to our investors, but we have dozens of employees in Florida and South Florida. We're an active member of the community. So it goes to various – Are you a public company? No, private. Okay. Who are the record keepers? Is it us or is it you? We are. Okay. We do – it was asked about records requests earlier. I'm very familiar with Chapter 119. I've worked on projects in Florida for a couple decades now. And we handle that as your agent. The law states that we're your agent. Everything is at your direction. But we bear the labor. And we'll follow the city's policy on that on cost. 119 does allow the cost per hour. Or if the city believes it's a, you know, a correct request, somebody is concerned or has it. But often there are nuisance requests, requesting new things. And if the city allows us, we'll assess that fee but give the money back to the city. But direct answer, we're your agent until we handle the legwork basically for that. This isn't really for you, but I did like what I read. Red speech should not be reimbursed for any cost fees associated. It feels like that was written for me. So. Well, you have a very good purchasing department. They – That's just been a little bit of a – Definitely wasn't written for me. How can they pay? Through the phone, online? Yeah. By mail, credit card online or check. Okay. Yeah. That brings me to the credit card fees. You bear that cost. If a violator does choose to pay by credit card, as probably I imagine you for other vines, I would assume we're all vendors, we'll recoup the cost that MasterCard charges us. But that's – they could pay by check and not incur that fee at all. I know that. But I'm saying if they do pay by credit card, you're bearing that, the merchant service fee. We assess that to the violator. It does come out of the city's portion. Oh, you charge them a service fee to utilize the credit card. Yeah. The three to this point some percent or whatever it is. But again, they don't have to pay by credit card. Okay. I think you said this. Could we purchase this? Or is it just a service? I see your eyebrow. Yeah, it would be – the service is very unique and complex and time consuming, requires expertise. I am not aware of any program in the country out of hundreds and hundreds that are operated by the municipality. And it would get away from – and I'm not going to say it's a bad idea definitely, but – that it would get away from the force multiplier fraying up police and other staff to do other things. Okay. One of the questions in the backup, it says, is your expectation that the ALPR and video system capabilities will be available 24-7, 365 days per year? And then our response to that question was, yes, if permitted by law, now or in the future. So is this the first step for us to totally abdicate our responsibility to write our own uniform? Do you want me to answer the chief or you answer them? So within the statute, it indicates that the equipment can't be used to surveil. So we have to be cautious on what our intent was when we advertised it. So they're indicating that, yes, it can in accordance with whatever laws are dictating the ability to do so. So we have to follow the statute. So the statute is clear that we can't use the – currently under the law, the way it's written, unchallenged, that we are not permitted to surveil with those – that equipment. So when we say that it will be available to our police department for accidents or robberies or school lockdowns like Councilmember Horland was speaking to, that's not surveilling? Can I get you – You may have – Or you're surveilling something, an active thing where someone's actually – Yeah. No. No. Thank you, President. As mentioned, I was fortunate to work on this law for three years and met with all the legislatures many times. And they've made it clear to us, and in the century, there is a line, it's around line 600 in the House bill, that it's not – I stopped at 550. Sorry. I wish it had been earlier. Yeah. That it had been written earlier, not that you stopped earlier. It says it's not to be used for surveillance, and I clearly remember having this conversation. But then I did tell them, do you want it to be fruit of the poison tree where an assistant happens to capture some horrific incident in this school? So their intent is, you can't look at this 24-7 for no reason. You can't actively look at it. Right. There needs to be a complaint or something. And our system has a drop-down menu that the officer will state. The reason they looked at the video at this time of day, on this day, was because of the complaint 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. So I believe all rational people are – I believe many people. This is government. We're not rational. You're good government, though. Would want the evidence to help your great police department if something happened in the school zone. But I don't want people surveilling me 24-7 either. So I think it is the best of both worlds. And it's available, but it has to be a documented reason why, and at this time, your police want to access this piece of evidence. And that's by statute. Does it – what is the – I think you said you had two people who monitor it for quality control. So if 100 cars come through – what's the terminology when they're – is it a violation is what we're calling it? Alleged violator. What's that? The alleged violator. Okay, the alleged violator. So if 100 violators come through, how many of those are, like, kind of thrown out because the quality is not – It's a very – What's the accuracy? It's a rounding error, the inaccuracy. The ones that would typically be thrown out is if – it's – you have to be able to get the registered owner through the plate. And sometimes people don't update their address in violation of the law. But that it's generally the inability to obtain an accurate foolproof – where to mail it, that thing. Okay. So the data in where the camera is capturing, that's basically 100 percent? Close to it. You can have – like today, some weather conditions would make it problematic. But it's the highest quality – Can you issue umbrellas? I didn't have one today, as you can see. I'm just kidding. But it's very accurate. But we do have two humans review it, and then again by – So when in doubt, it gets thrown out? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Chief, I told you I wasn't going to side swipe you, but I think I might – No more. I might have a question that you don't know the answer to. So I'm reading this, and then I'm thinking about all these people, particularly when you're on the turnpike, that have these blacked out license plates. And then you look on the internet, and people are spraying things and altering their license plates. So these cameras – which I guess with SunPass, you've got a flash technology, and that causes an image thing. I don't think – it doesn't seem like this is a flash. I believe – I can answer that. Yeah. We don't use a flash. We use infrared, because flashes are dangerous, distracting, and annoying to a motorist driving through your roads. Okay. Good. But to answer your direct question on that, if it was painted over black, we could not read it. Well, there's these plastic things that – Yeah. But that would be – that's against the law in Florida. The law enforcement officer can't read it. But as far as any – I don't think we – That would be a phrase, our technology would easily defeat that. So that would not be – But if it's made not visible to the human eye, we could – So, like, if we're – if an officer's driving down the street, and he sees someone that has a blacked out license plate, is he pulling that person over? Sure. Okay. 100%. Yes, sir. Unless he's on his way somewhere else. Because that's frustrating. Priority. And again, when you look at your tag for the renewal, we get those too. So, it's just a matter of being able to observe it. If your tag is expired, we – we write for that. This goes into – this feels like some of these questions I have coming up here. What have we done to try to address the situation? Have we assessed that, like, the street markings are appropriate, or do we need to enhance those? You know, like, it's – you know, when you enter a school zone, it says school. But is there anything else that we can put to enhance the street so the markings would hopefully change the behavior? We've had a lot of success with speed – speed limit signs at flashier speed. That seems that, you know – and Samira's saying that she's been surprised that that has changed behavior, and it's maintained the behavior where you drive through. And I always try to see, like, if I can hit it without looking at my speedometer, and I do a pretty good job. But, like, have we looked at other remedies – signage, street markings – or are we just jumping to this? Well, the school zones have been in place for such a long time. Yeah. I don't see what else we could do to enhance that. I mean, we've got the school crossing guards out there. Our officers have been out there, as you can – as reflected in the citations that we write. But we can't be out there all the time. Well, to me, the biggest thing that pulled me towards it – and I think you know how I feel about it. I think everybody knows how I feel about it – I have a philosophical problem with it – is the force multiplier. There's no way to argue that. Correct. I know – I know that a police officer is an extremely valuable resource that, you know, there's a lot of things going on in the city, and we need them doing other things than sitting on the corner, et cetera. So I think I'm going to say I agree with Councilmember Anderson because I believe he said when this – when we were hearing about this, and it was coming in drips – Mayor Sordell, you were out at various board meetings and, you know, enthusiastically talking about this – I never thought that the time from the end of the drop-off period to the pick-off period that the camera would be on. So I would be totally for turning it off outside of when the school zone is actually active. It says – I'm sorry. Councilman, in all due respect – Always. I would – I'm okay with you disagreeing with me. I disagree with you. Okay. And the only reason – again, we're not performing surveillance here. But if something were to occur – a good example is we had a fatality – I don't know if it's a year or so ago – at the duck pond early morning. Oh, how I would love to have – Well, I'm not talking about like from this discussion. It sounds like the camera would be active. I'm saying writing a ticket between the drop-off period and the pick-up period. Again, I – In the middle of the day. Okay. I know – I heard – I disagree with you. Yes, sir. We got so heated yesterday on the phone. It was unbelievable. I was just like, wow, chief's really mean to me. No. No. Absolutely not. No. We'll agree to disagree. Yes, sir. Okay. Talks about designating the city magistrate. Seems like we've been having trouble with our magistrate. My question regarding the magistrate is who's bearing the cost for the magistrate if they chose to fight the civil penalty? Is that – because it becomes a uniform tax – Yeah. If it becomes a UTC, it would go to the Broward County – Or to the court. Respective Broward County court location. The magistrate, that would be the city. It's not a great expense, but the law does allow – if I'm guilty. If I'm not guilty, of course, there are no court costs, but costs can be recouped for – as you would in any court hearing. If the magistrate doesn't agree with the person and they lose their protest – I don't know the right terminology. I'm just a humble CPA. Appeal. But appeal, then they would be – they'd have to pay the – The fine plus requisite cost. And the cost of the hearing. That's correct. And that's for the city to determine that cost. Okay. Under statutory guidelines, but there's wide discretion. When do we expect – if it gets approved, when do we expect it to be live? The first day of school of the upcoming school year? That would be hard right now. The longest piece – these are – Chief, refresh my memory – there's no F-dot roads, right? They're all county or local roads? Sunrise. Sunrise. The longest part, there is a permit granted. Okay. From permitting, it's under 30 days. It just will depend. But school starts early August here, right? Early and mid-August. Yeah. We're in the middle of June now. I wouldn't want to over-promise that. As close to that as possible. I was more asking from the standpoint of I wouldn't want it to be active on the first day of school, because I'd want it for the notification, like you said, to let the parents know that this is going to come live. And I was sort of even thinking, like, from day one of school for 30 days is the notification and then the warning period for the next 30 days. Well, we're fine with that again. We'll follow your direction. Okay. We're not looking to surprise anyone. That was really what my concern was. How do you notify the parents before school starts? And, in fact, we're fortunate enough you passed this this evening. The public education can begin almost immediately that it's coming. Okay. Okay. And I think my last comment, sorry I went so long, but I was looking at the statistics here, you know, Seminole, Middle, and Peters Road is 30%. A lot of these zones are, you know, overlap for many of these schools and stuff. One of the lower ones, not being in a residential neighborhood, was American Heritage. And I think it's because there is a, they pay to have our police officers there and there's a very visual, what's the word? Intention. Presence. That slows people down. So, I don't think it's a coincidence that they're too slow, but then I'm in conflict with, I understand the force multiplier on that. You've been, I appreciate your comments from, from me and from all the questions asked of you already. Council member Reinstein. Thank you. Thank you very much. And thank you to my colleagues for their, their, their questioning. Very helpful. I, I, I see that the data shows that there is a need to do more for safety of our students. There's no question. Looking at these numbers and just driving myself over the years on Peters Road and Nob Hill and so forth. There are people who don't abide by the, the speed limit at all hours and especially during the, during school hours. And, and it's dangerous. And hearing from the, the chief especially, I appreciate Mr. Parks all of the explanation, but hearing from the chief that you believe that this will assist. Um, I hope that with this education that you're planning on doing that maybe, uh, you won't find any more speeders, right? Is that a sufficient education will cause people to say it's not worth their, uh, their, their time and, and money to correct. And so that's, that's the ultimate hope. Um, I, you know, my initial questions regarding hours of operation is because it's also an invasion of privacy. And, you know, knowing that, uh, hearing chief, especially your response regarding that is, uh, it's not surveillance. Hearing that, uh, it's, it's not being looked at, it's not being utilized, um, unless there is some type of cause. I wanted to get back to that. Um, what is, what needs to be expressed in order to access that video outside of school hours? Meaning what is the cause? Uh, it depends on the situation. I mean, it, it, we're not gonna, uh, it, it would be a, a serious offense. So let me ask, let me ask you differently to help. Is that it's not a, we're, we're not suggesting that there's some type of legal standard that you have to abide by. Um, but you're saying is that as the chief of the department that if a request is going to be made, that it's going to be, um, with, with cause with, with, with a belief that there's a need and that it will assist you and in an investigation. Yes, sir. Um, and, uh, is that, that basis is that discoverable, right? So is that if you obtain this, this, uh, video footage and you're using it in the course of an investigation, how does that work in turn? I don't do criminal law. So in, in that kind of situation, um, how is that playing? You're not gonna, more than likely, you're not gonna use that small little, um, segment of video. Uh, there's gonna be a lot more evidence that you're gonna produce based on that. Uh, it just, it's a start for us to be able to, to, uh, move forward with the investigation. I mean, obviously, and again, this is another part, um, we're not looking in the car. Our, our, our goal is to, is for the tag, to identify the vehicle and the registered owner. Um, I mean, that, that is a hundred times more evidence than we get sometimes on, um, you know, a hit and run type of deal. We got a car color, but we don't even know the make, model, or any, any part of the, the tag. So if we could get the tag, that's a good bit of evidence for us to, uh, to move on. Understood. And to me, this is somewhat of just an extension of the, um, of, of body cameras almost, is that when we talk about the need to assist, um, law enforcement, and I think it assists the public. And it, uh, as long as we are always cognizant of privacy rights, um, and the, the ultimate goal is safety and security, then, um, you know, we're talking about our students, we're talking about our kids. Yes. And so, um, there has to be some, some, some gift there. So thank you. Appreciate it. Yes, sir. Council member Andrea. Sorry. Just one more question. And we appreciate your time. You mentioned about the education. Do you ever, and did you maybe in Georgia, partner with a third entity to do this educational, um, kind of campaign? No, no, absolutely. Um, there's not a great pride of ownership. It's what's most effective. We'll partner all the way. Uh, in fact, we have retained, uh, a South Florida, uh, minority-based, uh, public education firm who knows the market well to help us. In Georgia, we've also partnered with many PTAs, other school associations. In fact, the PSAs we do, we've filmed a number in South Florida already. Uh, a number of parents, principals, educators are featured talking about the problem that's at the school, how they're able to solve it. So, yeah, we, we, we believe in there, there's a force multiplier there, too. We don't know everything. Uh, so yes is the direct answer. Um, and I ask because the district is also in the process, and I don't want it to be, of course, all of this is for the benefit of students. And as an educator as well, that's always first and foremost. But it might be a bit overwhelming to, uh, residents and parents because we're also rolling out, um, the school bus infraction system as well. So that's why I'm asking because if we can put maybe some similar messaging out for both. No, we'd be happy to meet with that vendor. We'd be happy to work with the school system. Um, I've said it two or three times. I don't want to come try it. But we work for the city. So we'll follow a direction. And it's good. I don't know who the school bus, uh, stop alarm vendor is. But we work in conjunction there in your direction. Has it been decided? If we wanted to be with the school system, PIO or senior leadership, uh, we're open to whatever is best. Okay. And another great opportunity to partner with our schools would be to support each school in a banner. So you could, um, donate to each school and put the banner on their fence, letting them know that this is, you know, now. I would be happy to do that. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Council member Horland. Well done, Council member Andrew. Um, I just want to make a final comment when we talk about overall safety. And I want to clarify what I said. Um, to your point, Council President, you're right. When we first started hearing about this, um, I did not know that the cameras would be active during the day. And it gave me pause until I looked at the data. And when I looked at the data, what I want everybody to think about, if we've been talking, um, during our workshop tonight, we've had incidents where we've had crashes and fatalities on Nob Hill Road. Let's just talk about that road. When you look in five days outside of the hours of school in between those, um, you know, pickup and, uh, drop off and pickup, there were well over 4,000 violators. That means that people were trying, and we all know that road, 51 miles and out per mile per hour and over. So when I talk about the overall safety of the community, so our priority is the students and the families in the morning. But when I talk about the overall safety of the city, you think about that. The ability to be able to hopefully modify and change behavior on those roadways during the day, I think is significant. Um, so that's one of the reasons. Again, it gave me pause to begin with, but then I started to look at the data. So I really think that it'll go a long way, um, and especially in deploying our forces elsewhere. So thank you again, Mr. Parks. Thank you for my colleagues. Okay. Um, just a couple quick little things I missed. Uh, the ALPR, that would be, um, hanging additional equipment on the pole. It wouldn't be tied into the existing cameras that are already there. We could do it either way. Our, our system is very capable. And most of our customers in Georgia, we feed our video camera already to your ALPR provider. So there's less infrastructure on your road. Where my question was going with that is it, it would be compatible with our, our provider for the ALPR. We're compatible with all and we'll follow the police department's direction. And our preference is to feed our video so you have less infrastructure. You don't have another pole, you don't have a solar panel. And councilman, we didn't plan on having the ALPR on there. We were just, this is strictly being able to speak. Okay. And it was part of the bidding requirement that the system. That it would be compatible. Okay. It was part of, yes. I guess like in the assessment zones, there didn't seem to be any kind of consistency or even a scale on the maps that were being shown as to where the flashers were and where the readers were. And I'm wondering like, is there a different speed in the middle of a school zone as opposed to the entrance of a school zone? Well, and the, the study is about just a document that there's a need for you all to attest at hospital 657. There's heightened safety risk to enforce at this school. Where the camera, where the data detection device, there needed to be a place for mounting it in a hurry. And we had a day to set it up. So that's not necessarily where the. I would just kind of be curious, like you have the entries and you probably have one in the middle of the zone just to see if there is a, you know, that would be interesting data to see. You know, I was talking to Chief Harrison yesterday and I said, what are you supposed to be doing? You're supposed to be at 15 when you enter the zone or are you supposed to immediately slow down the second you hit the zone? And public service announcement, you better be doing 15 when you hit the zone. Yeah, that's why the flashers are placed outside the beginning of enforcement. And I didn't ask you this what the flashers like I'm thinking of the overhead ones. Is that the second you cross that threshold? That's that's the zone. It's not a line 20 feet ahead of you. Right. Okay. I don't really would. I still don't want the tickets written between the pickup in the end of the day. But that that would have to be the consensus of the council and I'm not sure that's there. The force multiplier that that that weighs on me. But I still feel like I have my philosophical problems that we've already discussed. So I great presentation. I appreciate. Thank you for having us shared. Councilmember Anderson microphone. I think I asked that, but we were rapid firing and I don't know that I got the answer, but it's what you just asked again. If so, I am getting more convinced that just the data really helps and the force multiplier really helps. So that's a lot of convincing factors. But after as it gets implemented and we're really getting it down. But basically the question is, can we come back and modify and say we don't want it, you know, from maybe an hour after after the arrival, you know, to allow for the late people rushing in and maybe up to an hour before dismissal. But the middle time. I don't think an hour is the point is no. I mean, I'm saying that if it's eight to two, can we make it the half hour before till nine? And if it's two, we could do one o'clock till two thirty half hour for the zone. Basically, the question is, can we modify our things within the statute? Can we modify it later on? We can modify when we want to happen. We might want to carve out times and I would base all this on data. I think we should let it go at as is and come back and start looking at data because we are giving away rights. You know, we are getting more surveillance. But if we're getting a lot out of it, I'm willing to give up some to get a big gain out of it. But if after after a while, it just starts to be a money grab or it's not doing what it needs or or maybe it's only certain areas we need to do it. The question is, we can modify it. And the answer is, we can modify it, right? That's correct. Yes. And if I may add, the statute actually requires that we provide reports to you, to the state. And that's and that has to be presented again for a public comment. So that's an opportunity for everyone to look and discuss and correct based on that data. Perfect. Councilmember Reinstein. So in hearing some of the concerns from Councilmember Fadgen and hearing what Councilmember Anderson has raised, I wonder if if we did it in the reverse. Is that if we left out that middle period of time and then determine later on that we wanted to modify it and include that time. So that instead of including it now and then deciding to modify it later. I would be. It's never going to get modified later. Well, maybe, maybe, maybe it could. Maybe it couldn't. But my my thought is that I'm OK with leaving that period. It still is working. And so it will still provide what the chief is, I think, wanting in terms of ability to assist in law enforcement. However, not giving tickets in between those hours, whatever it is, hour after drop off in the morning and an hour before drop off, I think, is what pick up. Can I ask something along your lines? If it's turned off not the right tickets in the non school zone times, will it still collect the data saying that these would have been violations? It will. Writing that. Yeah, we'll collect overall traffic data. In fact, that's another benefit. We often state that this is a compliment to officer enforcement. Our system will give a report to the chief's team each day. If there's certain cars doing 70 during this period of the day, put a motorcycle officer out there and write a $500 citation. And as I've stated now for the fourth time, we work for you. But if I could say, Commissioner or Councilman, excuse me, that we would, we obviously would prefer to operate during the statutory period. And the legislative intent was because there are extracurricular, there's sports, there's medicine, there's lunch, there's late arrivals, there's early dismissals. And we did price it in good faith under the terms of the state law. I'm not going to say we would do it, we'll do what you tell us to do. But I would hope, great, I would hope you would consider assessing the data even during the warning period and coming back. And again, that's 11 miles over the speed limit. I know. Yeah, just, you know, my, the same questions that I raised at the outset of this regarding the hours of operation leads me to still be, most interested in, I understand it's the 30 minutes before and it's the 30 minutes after. But I would include additional time on the, both after drop off, after drop off in the morning and before pick up in the afternoon. And then leave that, that middle period without, without ticketing until we get these reports. We see the reports that the violators are continuing during that time period. The PSAs in education is not working. And I think we, I think we very well could decide to ask to include that time period. I think we could modify it. So I'm inclined to make that, make that as the motion. If there's any other question. Well, let's the Council Member Horland speak and then we'll, I'll ask for a motion. Thank you, Mr. President. Respectfully, I understand my colleague feels strongly about it. I think we have five days of data that shows the violations. As I said, almost 4,500 people going 51 miles an hour or above on Nob Hill alone. So I think that I would rather implement and then come back when we have the data. And listen, if the program works the way that it's supposed to, revenue and violations should be going down. So that's the ultimate goal. I'd rather start out and try to modify that behavior with the ticketing. And I think probably to Mr. Parks' point, a lot of those violations, especially on those roads that are leading to 595, are going to be people from outside the city. So I'd like to, my preference would to be go ahead and start it the way that it is set out by the statute and go ahead and enforce our posted speed limits on those roadways. Again, to keep our residents safe. And that's my preference. Can I have a motion? Sorry, Council Member Anderson. I just want to say, because I don't know if I convinced you, I think all of our talking convinced, but I am inclined, because the data is so strong, to actually go full. But I want to, on record that, and I think we have the council to do that, is that in this, once we get six month data, and I think it will actually naturally start to drop down, because we've trained them all to whatever. But I actually am inclined to, they priced it on good faith, it will free up officers, it will bring down a lot of things. And then I am definitely committed to bringing it back down if we need to. I heard Council Member Fadgen say he didn't think we would do that. I think you have the council here that is open-minded, and we do base our decisions on data. And I, for the record, would. Well, if we make it an agenda item for discussion purposes, as opposed to just coming in our mail, I think there's things that come in the mail. No, it has to be brought up. Sometimes that we just don't become a discussion. No, it has to be brought up. Twice a year, it has to be brought up, the data has to be brought up. But does it have to be brought up at the council meeting? Let's make that. Annually, it's required to be at the council. But I will attest on the record, I'm an officer of the company, you certainly have the right to amend the operational hours if you're not satisfied with the results of the midday. So, I would like to make the motion to approve item number 10 with the caveat that this will be an agenda item six months from implementation. It won't be, obviously, six months from today, because this probably won't be up and running until maybe September. No, we would commit to providing a robust statistical report of the times of day of the violations, the speeds, the residency, the repeat violator rate, the requested adjudication rate, where you'd have the data you needed to determine the effectiveness of where you are. So, but we would, to Councilmember Fadgen's point, we don't want just a report given to us. We would like it to be an agenda item for maybe March of, no, but she said annually. So, I'm saying we would, in the motion, it will be for March of 2025. We would like this to be included in the agenda. Six months from the beginning of operation. Yeah, that's your call. Your agenda will be here. Okay. May I, though? That's the motion. Go ahead, Councilmember Anderson. The, I just worry the, what we call the start of, you might, it might be a rolling start because of getting one area done in the next area. So, what is the start date, meaning six months from? Full implementation. The very first one or full implementation. That's all, it's like something like that. I think he'll be up and running in September. So, March is safe. At every single location? Yes. That's a very, September is very reasonable. Just to begin to school, I didn't want to over promise you it's done. Okay. Yeah, I agree. Okay. I will second that motion. Okay. We have some people who'd like to speak to this. Mr. Wynn. Joe Wynn, 944 Northwest 92nd Terrace. Thank you to Mr. Parks, Chief, the City Staff, who's obviously put a lot of effort into this. And I appreciate all of you taking this seriously because I appreciate the idea that understanding that the cameras being faced to people, taking video, having that video being sent out, processed in some way, is things. And, you know, data collection is not uncommon anymore and we do need to be conscious of where some of that information is being gathered and where it's going and what's being done with it. As I said, I did have a question on the safety portion of the funding, essentially how much of the funding went to right back into road safety projects for that area because that's one aspect of how we can do that. I just wanted to get through three points. I just wanted to get through the three points, I guess. I don't know. Three. The data retention policies are the, you know, the states. I just want to confirm and make sure with the provider that they don't sell metadata or the data itself to any third party, any other parties. And also that it's just all this is a lot of good evidence that roadways that aren't built to the posted speed limits are comfortable in some way for people to be doing 11 or more over on those roadways. And we can potentially be using some of this as funding and awareness to help improve those roadways for times outside of school hours as well, where there's a punitive impact. And the last thing is that a roadway that is comfortable at 25, 35, 40, whatever it may be. There's really no way to make it only comfortable for school zone speed without some sort of punitive system or, you know, or people in some fashion flashing lights. Literally a school zone paint won't do it. Essentially, it needs to be some sort of physical infrastructure or a punitive punishment in a sense. Those are the only things that would get people down to those speeds naturally in that sense. So, yeah, going back, my questions were, were the two that I had was the safety portion. How much of that funding, how much of each infraction money goes back to the infrastructure of that roadway section to improve it, to make it better so that potentially it's harder to even be speeding? And the other is the sale of sale, potential sale of any data or metadata. The first one, you're saying like if a ticket was written on Nob by Central Park Elementary, you're saying how much of that particular ticket is going to be allocated specifically to Central Park at Nob Hill? Yes. I don't think in the statute, I believe there was a portion of it. My colleagues can correct me, but from, from the city's perspective, I would say that we're going to assess the overall safety of the entire city and allocate those money where we need, need to get it because, you know, the money doesn't go very far. Right. Mr. Parks could probably answer the second. Thank you. Yeah, Greg Parks, Red Speed. We absolutely don't sell any of the data. And I think, I know you all are aware, but maybe to go to the record, the, the, the fund distribution, I think is really well thought out. Twelve dollars goes to the school system that must be used for safety, security, improve walking conditions. But that can go anywhere, right? Yeah, it absolutely can. We have, we would like to advocate with the school system to, to, to, to, if it's a plantation that gives the money to the Broward school system. And I was thinking about that. But it's not mandated. Because we might, are we the only, I guess, we're the lead agency, so we're going to be the first one. I don't know how many cities are going to follow along on this, so. There's a number throughout the state. You are the first from Broward, and I, I know for a fact, a number are going to immediately follow you. They are looking at you as a leader on this. But we don't sell the data, is my main contribution on that. Thank you. You good? Yes, thank you. Thank you. Mr. Conklin. Oh, you over there. God bless you. Is there anybody else? Come on up, Maude. Plantation Green, graduate of the University of Plantation. Thank you. Maude Bruce, 1764 Northwest 71st Avenue, Plantation, Florida, 33313. I am aware of the safety of the students, but the council also needs to speak about the residents. I've lived across the street in the area of Plantation High School for 36 years. It depends on the year. Sometimes, if we exit 17th Street, the cars are lined up with the parents getting the young folks to school. I'm concerned that the cameras may limit our access to 70th Avenue. We're up the street from Mirror Lake. Plantation High School is right across the street. That, I understand, is a school zone. That's two school zones. That's what we're looking at. For us to leave our homes, we have to dart in between the hours that the students are in school. Don't even try to leave the area after 3 o'clock because we're stuck in traffic. So I'd like for you to give consideration to the residents who live there, pay the taxes. Also, you know, we want student safety. But don't forget our comfort as well as residents and tax-paying persons living in Plantation. Thank you. Thank you, Maude. Can I ask Maude a question? Hold on, hold on. Mr. Mayor. Sorry. Doggone it. We say we're the first one, and I'm sitting here Googling. Davey partners with American Traffic Solutions, Vera Mobility, formerly known as American Traffic Solutions, and there's Fort Lauderdale Dean Trantellis talking about them. Can you help me clarify? Yes, so Town of Davey is utilizing a camera system they already had, and they add it to their platform in order to adapt the school zone mechanism. So we are the first agency in Broward County to successfully, well, to publicly solicit and to go under a contract doing it as such. What about Fort Lauderdale? Fort Lauderdale, again, they had a camera system already in place, and they are adding to their program. Thanks. Council Member Reinstein? Ms. King? Do you mind? I just wanted to follow, I wanted to ask what, I heard what you said, but what are you, what are you looking for? What do you think would make your situation better? I believe. She wants faster cars. I'm sorry? You wanted faster cars. Not faster cars, but at least let us have an opportunity to leave our homes during different hours of the day. All right, but those cameras being on, I'm concerned about, oh my goodness, okay, we don't break the speed limit. Some of us don't. But the cameras to me should be on only before school hours, during school hours, and after school hours. After school hours to me, they need to be adjusted. That's not part of the conversation. It was really the middle. The middle part, okay. After it's, the cameras are on, but they're not, you're not writing a civil citation. Also, I'd like to mention, the majority of the accidents that occur on Sunrise Boulevard and 70th Avenue occur after school hours. After school hours. I'm not saying one cannot occur during school hours. The majority of them occur 5 o'clock, 6 o'clock. I've kept track for 36 years. Can I follow up, please? Yeah, go ahead. Ms. King, so while you're looking for, while you're talking about after school hours, what is your position on during the school, in between the drop-off and pick-up? In between drop-off and pick-up, I personally have no problem. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anybody else that would like to speak to this item? Seeing none, with no more comments from the day. Ms. Begaro, please call the roll. Council Member Anderson? Yes. Council Member Horland? Yes. Council Member Reinstein? No. Council Member Andreu? Yes. Council Member Fadgman? No. Item 11, the ordinance. City Attorney Ezra, can you please read the ordinance? Yes, sir. This is first reading of an ordinance of the City of Plantation, Florida, amending Chapter 25 of the Code of Ordinances entitled, Traffic and Vehicles, by creating Article 7 entitled, Speed Detection Systems for Enforcement of School Zone Speed Limits, providing for use of traffic infraction detectors in accordance with state law, providing for codification, severability, conflicts, and an effective date. Okay, can I have a motion? Motion to approve. Second. Thank you. I think we already did all the public comments. Last call from the Chamber, seeing none, no comments up here. Ms. Begaro, please call the roll. Council Member Anderson? Yes. Council Member Horland? Council Member Reinstein? No. Council Member Andreu? Yes. Council Member Fadgman? No. All right. Item, congratulations. Item 12, ordinance amending the Code of Ordinances to Allow Dogs in Select City Parks. City Attorney Ezra, please read the ordinance. Yes, sir. This is public hearing, second reading of an ordinance of the City of Plantation, Florida, amending Section 4-15, Dogs on Park Property, of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Plantation, providing for severability, codification, conflicts, and an effective date. Thank you. Thank you. Do I have a motion? Motion to approve. Second. Any comment from the public? I'm sorry? I'm sorry, Mayor. Go ahead. I just want to let you all know I did get one email from a resident who did not like the idea of Heritage Park being included for dogs. Heritage Park's not our park. No, no, I'm sorry. Ray Carroll Armstrong Liberty Tree Park. Oh, Liberty Tree Park. Yeah. And so I told him I would bring it up to Council and I would mention it. And, you know, it's your all's call. Why? Was there a reason? He thought it was a more active park and was worried about it. So, like I said, I told him I would bring it up and, you know, I evaluate everything. And so I've now done so. I think that's such a great passive park. I mean, I like the openness there and I think the ability to walk a dog on a leash. I mean, in my opinion, as a dog owner. I have no opinion. I have no opinion. I think the leash is the key. The leash is the key. Agreed. I forget. Do we have a motion? Yeah, motion to approve. And second. Okay. Any other comments from the chamber? Seeing none, Ms. Beggara, please call the roll. Council Member Anderson. Yes. Council Member Horland. Yes. Council Member Andreu. Yes. Council Member Fajan. Yes. Thank you. Item 13. City Attorney Ezra, can you please read the ordinance? Yes, sir. This is public hearing. Second reading of an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Plantation, Florida, declaring zoning in progress and prohibiting the submission, processing, approval, or issuance of building permits, engineering permits, or development orders for any retail, office, or business uses within the City's Midtown District, as shown on the map set forth in Exhibit A, providing for conflict severability and an effective date. Thank you. Can I have a motion? Motion to approve. Second. I don't see any comments from the days. Anybody in the chamber? Ms. Beggara, please call the roll. Council Member Anderson. Yes. Council Member Horland. Yes. Council Member Reinstein. Yes. Council Member Andreu. Yes. Council Member Fajan. Thank you very much. Yep. We've got a lot going on. First off, the League of Cities announced their annual convention in August here. I'm going to have, Monday I'm going to have Pam kind of work it to see how many we have. I'd kind of like to know who's thinking about going and who's not. Council Member Horland, Council Member Reinstein, anybody else? Where's it at? Diplomat. It's Hollywood this year. August 15 to 17. I think we pay for it and I'm just looking at the line. So I typically register myself. So are you saying that she's going to register us? I would think so. You okay with that, Jason? Okay. Okay. Because I just don't want to miss the boat to make sure that. Absolutely. Perfect. I want to get in first and I want to go too. Great, great, great. Thank you. And I might stay there at night, but that's on my own dime. Same thing. Yeah. You said Pam's going to send out information? Yeah. Yes. I'll let you know. Does anybody already register or not? You're looking at me, Jay. It's your anniversary. Okay. He won't mind. So you and your husband got married on the same day. Oh. Okay. Very good. Good to know. We had a discussion about Max Millage having the meeting in July. Jason, help me out with this. We were going to debate whether we were going to go 5 to 6 or 5.30 to 7 and we had some other workshop we're trying to get in. Well, yeah. We typically start at 5.01, but now we've had some concern about starting too early. So we just wanted to throw it to council to see if they'll be more comfortable starting at 5.30. Comments either. Okay. Well, 5.01 works. We'll do 5.01. We just wanted to make sure that y'all were good either way. Yeah. That's going to be July 25th. It's our Max Millage discussion. And I thought we were trying to work in something beforehand, weren't we? It's July 24th, but we're also asking about the timeframe. Right. So it's scheduled for an hour right now. We want to know what your thoughts are. Do you want it longer? Extra half hour. Do you need more than an hour? Or do you want an hour and a half? What are you proposing? Lots of stuff. Ask the finance director. She'll tell you. I just did. You should know. You saw most of it. They didn't ask about millage. No, we're asking 5.30 to 6.30 or 5.30 to 7. No, no. It has to be after 5, so it's 5.01. Well, 5.01. So the question is, do you want it to be an hour, or would you prefer it to be an hour and a half? Because the last Max Millage meeting, we had some issues. We want to find out what your thoughts are. Probably 90 minutes, I would think. Yeah. I think to be, but do we, but it's a 5 o'clock. I think 5.30. I think 5.30 to 7. Because it's so difficult to ask residents who many times get off of work at 5 to be here, and they want to be able to participate, and we want to hear from them. So I think 5.30. 5.30 to 7? Yeah. I'm okay with that. 90 minutes. So 5.30 to 7 it is. July 4th Parade is coming up. We were looking for Olympians, but now I'm thinking we might pivot to Panthers. Ooh. Unfortunately, Sunrise has a parade that day, too. But we have a plantation resident. Very Zito, right? General Manager. Lives in Plantation. So I'll probably pitch him to be a Grand Marshal. I'm just asking if anybody has any other connections. Hearing none, I'll move on. Matt Thompson was going to talk, but I don't see him. There he is. Coming up. I'm looking back there. All right. The floor is yours, sir. I'm done. Thank you all. Thanks, Mayor. What are you doing sitting in the front row? I know, right? That's what I get. I didn't think you'd miss a chance to grab the mic. Wow. That's a surprise. Good evening, Council, Mayor, City Attorney, Matt Thompson, Public Works Director. I don't know whether to give you an update first or slide through our presentation, but I'll give you an update. I'm glad to report that we have no severe flooding. Great. Most of our hot spots, we were on top of them. I will give a lot of credit to Samira, the stormwater team, Leo, the city assistant engineer. He was out there, boots on the ground. We responded quickly. We deployed the pumps. We got the water down, and crews have now been released to go home. So they're not working in hazardous conditions, the dark and everything like that. There's still going to be some water on the roadways, but throughout the night that will subside, percolate, and our water levels are still pumping because we're still in low tide. So that's good news. I hope we don't keep going with days like this. It's going to get challenging, but I'm glad to report that everything is status quo. We may have a few hot spots. So proud of that. Other than that, I wanted to run you through a brief presentation of a sandbag distribution that we put together through Public Works, and with the help of our police department explorers and the fire department cadets and some volunteers, I think we're going to have a nice little program put together for our residents. So without further ado, we're looking at getting eight sandbags per household. It seems to be the going number for cities our size, our house size, things of those nature. We're going to offer weekday distributions as well as Saturdays. I'll get to the time that we're going to run, but this is kind of how we're going to put all this out on social media. I just wanted to run it tonight, and I plan on doing it again on the 26th council meeting. Weekend distributions will be out there handing out, assisting. We're going to assist the elderly and disabled. If you're not able-bodied, then we will have somebody there to help you. For the most part, it's going to be self-service like the mulch is, though. We're going to have it set up, and again, we're there to help, so we're not going to shoo them off. We're going to do it back at the transfer station. We're going to have sand. We're going to have tents to help keep people out of the direct sunlight, and we know it's hot. And again, we'll be back there to coordinate how it flows on the weekends, and we're expecting that's going to be the busiest time. So we're going to operate it for the whole month of July. Obviously, we're going to be closed on Sundays and closed 4th of July, but Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., you're able to come by. Every Saturday for the month of July, 8 a.m. to 2 p.m. We're in that time of year. We may get delayed and may be inclement, but we'll do our best to work around it and maybe have a rain makeup date or something like that looking forward. What we're going to provide, we've made sandbag filling devices. Ours actually have handles on them. We have a 4 tube and a 2 tube, so that way somebody may not be able to really lift the 4 tube, but there is a lighter 2 tube option that will be out there. The sandbags come with ties, so we'll have shovels out there and obviously the sand. What we suggest you bring, either a tarp or old sheet for the trunk of your car, some drinking water or a bottle. We will have coolers with ice water back there, gloves, proof of residency, and of course your patience, please. Other than that, that's our contact. So that's the presentation, short, sweet, factual, to the point. Like I said, we're going to work together to put it all on social media platform and get everything set up that way. And I'll present it again at the June 26 council meeting and it will be on the agenda. But we put it together rather quickly and we wanted to get it out there. So that's it. Mr. President, may I? Sure. I want to thank you. You and I had an initial conversation about this when you got promoted and we thought it might be too labor intensive. But I know my colleague over there has really been pushing for this. So well done. I'm so excited about this. And maybe the mayor and council need to go out there and pack some bags one day. Come on out on Saturday. We'd love to have you. I would love to do that. I would love to do that. Yeah. My comment is no. Yeah, no, you're welcome. I mean, there's always we always have challenges. It's just finding how we can overcome them. Thank you for looking for the solution. I think it's terrific. And that just goes to show you that we hear you and we want to do it. It's just we have to work at it to do it the right way so that it's going to be successful. Next year, I will plan on doing it June as the start of preparedness. We'll implement it for the whole month of June. Got a little late start this year, but I figured the idea was to have it under blue skies. But again, today, yesterday is a really good testament if you need sandbags or you don't. If your area is not flooded by the end of today, tomorrow, you're going to be fine. Our stormwater system is only getting better every week. We're improving it. We're doing major improvements to that with maintenance, with design. So let that be a testament. Don't freak out and come and try to run and grab 30 sandbags. It's okay. Let the stormwater system do what it's designed to do. I want to thank you, too, Mr. Thompson, because it is actually even better than I had imagined. I love it. Thank you. No, no, you're welcome. And I want to thank the administration for the support. I brought it to them, and they're like, absolutely, let's do it. Good. Thank you. Everybody's working. We're all working together. So, all right. You're welcome. Okay. Councilmember comments. Councilmember Anderson. So, just keep on. I think most of us, several of us mentioned we took Cleary, and we saw the guys out there. That was great. And I have to say, I came from East Fort Lauderdale down. I think, Matt, I'm giving you a compliment. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. She's getting called for sandbags, and I'm like, no, send them to our office. So, I was back working. I'm sorry. Here we go. A lot of us took Cleary, and we saw the guys pumping. Yes. Like, you staged that. It was right there. They were pumping away in the rain. I was going like this as I'm driving. I didn't want to honk and scare them. So, I just did this. Yeah, don't honk. Please. Both hands on the wheel. Yeah, yeah. Below 11 miles an hour. I got one hand in the palm. No, great job. But I think the flood from a while ago woke up a lot of people because I noticed Broward County out clearing the gutter, the storm drains a few days ago, right on sunrise. You know, everything working together and being proactive. And I know Samira and our city, we've been very proactive. Yes. And as much rain as out there, I still was able to drive from East Fort Lauderdale in the thick of it, coming, you know, home to turn around and come right back. And, yeah, there was a lot of water that should be, but it was drivable. I just stayed at a reasonable speed. Right. Right. And that's just a testament. Just so, thank you. Well, thank you. But, yeah, no, we saw our good buddy Anton from Broward County on the news last night saying that he was deploying resources throughout all the different cities. And, you know, we're all in communication and working together. And, again, it's a lot of hard work done by, you know, Samira, Bill Mulder, the stormwater guys. We were all out there in conjunction today. I will say we had our mobile command out there. And we held our first storm meeting inside of the command on Cleary Boulevard. So, but it was great to actually pull up the maps and see where the storm drains and the catch basins are and where we need to delegate the resources. So, it's much better when we all work together. Are the acres and the country club estates? Yeah. Acres I cannot speak on. Yeah. We'll have a better gauge in the morning. They can absorb a lot of water before they start to get heavily flooded. But once they, once they crest, it happens quick. Country club estates is good. We have water in the swales, but that's where it's supposed to be. Roadways are passable. So, and like I said, the radar, everything's showing about 10 o'clock. It should dissipate and we should be clear overnight. So, we're keeping our fingers crossed for that. Good. Thank you. You're welcome. Also, kudos on, I'm seeing a lot of action on the sidewalk cracks. Do I have to come back? No. Just kudos. Just take it. That's it. And Juneteenth, Wednesday, holiday, we'll, yeah. Okay. That's it. Council Member Andrea. Thank you. President Fadgen. Just want to congratulate our Parks and Rec Department this morning. I know, I don't know if it was on yesterday, but I caught it this morning on Channel 10. Wonderful segment from Mike in our Parks and Rec Department was covered on Channel 10. And, you know, great job to Mr. Goodrich and the entire team. And nice to get some positive, positive press from the city. The governor has actually declared an executive order declaring this a flood emergency. So, in the event that we do have to do anything with FEMA, hopefully it doesn't get to that. But we are under an actual executive order at this time. Also, this question is really to Mayor Sordal. So, June is National Gun Safety and Violence Prevention Month. And we know that more than 5 million children live in homes with unlocked loaded weapons. And I know that you made a commitment with Chief that we would do a gun buyback this year. So, I just want to check the status of that. Any momentum on there? Do we have a date yet? No. I haven't. I didn't look at it, but I'll look at it starting tomorrow. Okay. Oh. Okay. All right. So, you'll come back and keep us posted on that. Friday, we have our chamber. Hopefully, we'll still be able to continue. The chamber Plantation Wine and Jazz Friday at 6 p.m. at the Renaissance Hotel. So, I know that many staff members and residents and community come out for that. Looking forward to celebrating with everybody Friday. And it was already mentioned, but the city will honor Juneteenth Saturday at the Museum from 11 to 1. And then, of course, the actual Juneteenth is June 19th, next Wednesday. So, looking forward to that at the Museum Saturday as well. And then, want to wish all of our fathers, father figures, uncles, grandfathers, a very happy Father's Day Sunday. And I hope you all enjoy your day and get to relax and be pampered. And that concludes all of my comments. Thank you, President Badgett. Councilmember Reinstein. Yeah, I wanted to start with the red speed that was voted on today and passed. I had intended to make a motion earlier in order to approve of red speed, but just exclude that period of time in between. I do think that it, I'm very hopeful that it will do exactly as it aims to do to make our roads safer. So, despite that I voted against it, I'm in favor of red speed's purpose and that is to make our streets safer. You know, when tonight was a, I think was an example, when we look at the weather and we look at the flooding and we look at the few residents that were able to make it today. It brings me back to a discussion that we had earlier in the year about Zoom and having the ability for residents to appear via Zoom without having to make a, without having to sign up in advance or to alert anybody or utilizing just the system that we have. I do still believe that having more open access, easier access for residents to appear and speak would have, would have helped today when residents possibly at the last minute decided, you know what, the flooding is bad or I'm scared of the flooding or I'm scared of the weather and decided not to come. I, I, I also wanted to ask specifically, there was a number of questions that came up recently regarding water bills and I, I got a lot of, we, I think we all got a lot of correspondence explaining our water bill, explaining this, the estimating that's taking place. And, um, I thought that, um, it was a good opportunity to ask, um, Director Polio to, to speak about it now so that, you know, typically if people are raising the questions to us, whether via email or they're calling us or on social media, if there's one, two, three, four, five, there's usually many more that have the same questions and are just not reaching out. So, um, if, uh, if, uh, if you could answer that, um, you've already come up, I appreciate it. I know you expected it because I, I, I, I said that, uh, I'd be asking the, the question. So if you could just talk a little bit about that process for the estimating and explain how that works for our water bills. Absolutely. Danny Polio, utilities director, city of plantation, uh, council president, council members, mayor, attorney Ezra. So our, our metering program you guys are, are quite familiar with. I brought a meter tonight so you all can understand what, what it is, the different components of it. The part that registers your meter right here is the, called the encoder. This was the major upgrade that was done to the, the metering system. This is, you know, state of the art. The second component is what's called an endpoint. This is what communicates cellularly to the system. It sends the reads out. Just because this doesn't work, doesn't mean that this is not collecting data. So, we have 3600 meters that haven't been changed yet. Those are the old technology. AMI versus AMR is the old technology. AMI is the, the new technology. Um, so I'll go through a few things here. I think it's going to cover all of the questions that, that you guys have, but I wanted you to physically see. You see the little cap that sticks on top of your meter box? That's what communicates with it. There's a car parked on it. Um, if there's a couple different things, if it, this falls out down in the box, it will not send a signal. Um, those are different reasons why you won't get communication with it. We'll talk a little bit more about estimating too. And I'll keep this quick because I know it's late and we're extremely busy. Unlike, uh, match teams going home, we're ramping up. So, um, let's put this in perspective. While there's been a lot of multiple, multiple back and forth emails and a lot of social media chatter. Pardon me? Matt left by the way. Did he? That's guy's public works. Yeah. Come to utilities. Anyway. Um, and there's been a lot of social media chatter over the past week. Uh, the complaints we receive are relatively low. I want, I want to put all this in perspective for you. Okay. We'll usually see an increase in calls, um, to both council members and administration when, uh, when you see a couple unfavorable social media comments. And then it, and then it starts. It's cyclical. You'll see this. We'll respond to the calls. It dies down. Our calls are relatively low when it comes to this. We, with almost 29,000 meters in the ground, we're continuing to advance in the right directions. In the last two years, I'm here to tell you, we've made substantial gains. Uh, plantation continues to make great strides, uh, and advancements, not only in metering and billing areas, but all aspects of the department. Eye on water, customer engagement, advanced technology, um, just to name a few. Can we improve? Absolutely. We try every day for that. Out of the 29,000 meters and 26, uh, 26,000 accounts, 25,000 have already been upgraded. Thereabouts. These, these are rough numbers, but let's call it 25,000 have already been upgraded to the, uh, new AMI during phase one. That leaves about 3,600 plus or minus, which is scheduled to start in July. The contract's been awarded. Uh, the contractor is ready to go. He's getting ready to get his notice to proceed. Spoke with them two days ago, estimated mid-July start date. Utilities will continue to work through any issues that arise, which is normal with any integration. You all are fully aware of the challenges that we had when we were going through and doing the implementation between computer programs and everything. Um, we answer our complaints or concerns in real time. Uh, probably better than most in Broward County. And I could say that being the utilities director. The other directors might not agree with me. Other cities, not ours. Um, if we know about the problem, knowing about the problem means a call to us. You know, putting it on social media doesn't help the situation and it doesn't rectify the problem unless the folks from social media can go fix it. Then we're working on training them. Um, a known fact in the industry is old meters run slow. They don't run the other way. That's why utilities lose revenue with old meters in the ground, which is why they upgrade the technology and replace them. Um, when a meter is replaced, such as 25,000 of ours have just been upgraded, you're going to see an increase in consumption. You will. It's a fact. Um, not everyone believes that they're using more water. They might not be using more water. We're capturing the water that they're using that we were missing before with the new infrastructure. So the assumption is an increase in catching, registering it. It's registering it. It's picking it up. Right. It's picking up better than it did before. Um, when old meters are replaced, you'll see the increase in consumption. And small increases coupled with the rate increased and the newer meters. Um, you're realistically going to have a higher bill. It's if you do the math that way, that that's how it'll work. Um, you wouldn't have the same bill you had three years ago. Last two Octobers, we had 6% increases that reflects in new meter infrastructure. So all these things, uh, add up. Small leaks add up. Folks don't want to believe that they have a leak. And not everyone might, which is why we put boots on the ground. And we send people, send technicians out to the houses to try and figure out what the issues are. Um, with the newer technology, while they can capture the larger leaks much faster, you know, the higher consumption and the larger leaks, which is what our program is doing. And getting people to sign up on the eye on water, they'll get the notices as long as we have their information and everything. Um, smaller leaks might go unnoticed. It's up to homeowners to be aware of what's going on in their houses. We offer free toilet kits. We offer toilet testing kits. We do a lot of things that'll, that'll help, you know, people identify where there are leaks. If they can't find them, we'll go out and we'll help them look for them. That's just the way the utilities operate. Billing improvements. We've been meeting with, uh, we have a meeting, uh, scheduled with N4, uh, on the 18th, uh, IT. Thanks to John, we're setting up. We've done a health assessment of our N4 has our billing program and they also have our asset management and work order system and everything. So we're utilities is meeting with them for four hours on the 18th. Um, one of several topics we're going to be discussing with them is how can we improve our billing program, such as the ability to see your, your actual bill. We don't have that right now, but it's something that we want to do. We might be able to achieve it through N4. Um, the city's also currently working with a consultant on the new ERP. I know Laura's been heading that up. We had extensive conversations with the consultant on things that we may be able to tie utility billing to the ERP system, which ultimately is tied right to finance. It, it might be a better way to go. Um, but they're looking at it. Uh, understanding your water bill. We get questions on the water, but we had some with this right here. Uh, conversations as early as Monday occurred between myself and Jason, and I believe Jason and council member Horland, where, um, we're going to be putting it out. Daniela Hill, our customer service managers already complete. She completed a draft. We're putting out a tutorial, understanding your water bill. Uh, the draft is done. Uh, however, we noticed a couple things in the water bill that we want to tweak. Um, to make it simpler, the decimal points and things. That, that, that, that's a longer story. I'd be more than happy to do it tonight if y'all want. Uh, that'll be at the end if we are. Uh, so that will be out probably within the next few weeks. It's going to be posted on the website. I think y'all will be impressed with it. It, it, it, the draft came out really good. Estimated. Your, your question was estimated. Uh, how do we estimate meters? The use of estimating. Yes. Yeah. And, and I have some numbers for you. While this isn't plantation's preferred method, it's widely, it's widely used. Estimating is, is an accepted practice in a lot of cities. Some municipalities read their meter, um, every other much, every other month, like Boynton Beach. It said every other month reading. Uh, Coconut Creek, every three months. The other two months are estimated. But what you're doing is when you estimate, you're going out and verifying it. City of Sunrise, every, every other month, they're being estimated. You're allowed to estimate and it's an accepted practice. There's, pardon me? It gets shured up. Yes. Yeah. And whether it gets shured up with a credit because we overestimated. Oh, right. Or, or it's a catch up bill such as the similar one that we were, that a lot of chatter was about this week. Um, it was a catch up. We have all the details on that. The math is right. Our math is right. Anyway. Um, so out of the last 25,000 bills mailed, 700 were estimated. It's not a bad, it's not a bad number. Mailing issues. You've heard a couple of complaints about we're not getting mail. Or the people aren't getting their water bills. We've been tracking this since January. We're averaging about 75 bills a month returned to us. Does that seem like a lot? Not really. Maybe to the 75 people that aren't getting their bill. This past week, in a three day, three day total, we had over 300 bills returned to us. That's unacceptable. We're, we're aware of it. We're going to work with the administration. I'd like to file a formal complaint with the post office and figure out exactly what we can do to make this better. It's a postal issue. US postal issue. It's not a utility issue. Um, we are moving forward in a lot of different ways. And, and I wouldn't say, I don't take anything personal. But when folks go out and they want to talk about how the utilities of their billing system isn't working. They can't get help or anything. You all know the way plantation utility runs and has been run for many years, even before me. We're probably the most accessible, accessible utilities department around. We'll help our customers. It's a joint, it's a joint thing. Um, with that, I'll take any questions. If you all have any. Yeah. So thank you very much. Um, I, you're extremely accessible and the entire department is. That's why I thought it was important to give an opportunity for, um, for you to just put this all out there. So that, uh, at least, um, we, we can even just tell people, listen to the, listen to the recording. Because everything was really well explained. And, um, um, so thank you. Thank you. No problem. And we, we can, uh, I, when I started out, so we can always do better. We can. More information. We're more front facing. We're entering, uh, we're, we're, we're attending more events. We're, we're doing, um, our social media. Michelle's doing a, uh, a phenomenal job with it. Um, the messages are getting out. You're, you're gonna see improvements. The last mayor staff meeting, uh, there's a big push to update everybody's, uh, websites. And the information's getting out there. It's getting out there more than it ever did before. But can we do better? Absolutely. Thank you very much. Uh, just a couple other things that I wanted to, um, one, um, want to wish, uh, very good luck to the, the chamber on their wine and jazz. I know that was mentioned already that that's coming up, um, on, on Friday. And, um, this past week, I know like many of us, uh, we attended some graduations. Uh, I had a chance to attend, uh, South Plantation High School. Uh, also AEF graduation, which was their kindergarten and fifth grade, eighth grade and twelfth grade, as well as Nova High School. And, uh, I thought they were fantastic. And when we, we, we hear about some of these students, um, from South and from the other schools, Nova and AEF, um, the, the future is bright. Um, there were really some wonderful students. And I really appreciated how the principals at these schools also focused, um, a special attention to all of those signing up for, um, the armed forces. And, um, they, uh, they, they had everybody rise and give a, a special, um, round of applause for that. Um, which, uh, could segue into, um, coming up on June 14th is the U.S. Army's 249th birthday. Um, so wish them happy birthday in advance. Thank you. Council Member Horland. Thank you. Um, and school related. Council Member Andre, are we gonna get an update on the NextGen Scholarship winners soon? Okay, good. So I'm looking forward to that, um, as the school year ended. So, um, I don't know if anybody has spoken to any of the residents adjacent to the proposed North Acres Park lately. But I had a conversation. I asked Mr. Noonemaker to come up this evening. So the, uh, many of us know the resident Teresa Smith. She comes to our meetings. In May, it was 10 years ago that she and her sons went door to door knocking and asking their neighbors to sign a petition to get a park. And they've had their hopes lifted and dashed, uh, many times over the years. And, um, some of the residents that are adjacent to the park, she's having conversations. And her conversation with me was, you know, she has spoken to all of us and has confidence that we are going to ensure this park gets done. But I think the residents see the sign is starting to fade. And they were told it was going to go out to bid. Now it's going out to bid. And I asked Mr. Noonemaker to just give us an update. But the recent concern, which I thought was interesting, is because it was in the paper that property values are up in Broward County. Um, some of the neighbors said, well, if anyone in, on the council is going to ask for rollback, does that mean we're going to lose our park? So I thought it was a very interesting conversation. And I wanted to allay their fears as we're going to the budget season. But, yeah, I'm attacking you. Um, I'm putting it out there in June. Um, but I wanted, but I, but I knew that, um, when y'all noticed. But I wanted Mr. Noonemaker to address that, uh, where we are in the process. I know he and I are going to have a meeting because I had met with NatureScape. And there's some opportunities for us to put some, uh, native plants in there. So, Mr. Noonemaker, thank you for agreeing to give us an update. Mr. My pleasure. Jason Noonemaker, CAO. Good evening, everybody. Um, yeah, we're, we're still committed. I mean, we have a bid opening, I believe it's on June 25th. Um, I attended a paid meeting, I believe it was April or May, where we discussed that they, they've set aside funds for some offsite issues. They had some encroachments that they're going to, going to deal with. Uh, we've partnered with paid to do some offsite improvements. Because as we discussed earlier, we want to, uh, all our projects out in the acres, we want to make sure we're dealing with stormwater issues the, the most we can. Um, it is going to be a budgetary constraint. I'm not here to say that if y'all do something with rollback that we won't build the park. What we will do, administration will work, uh, to find the funds. Because as y'all know, it was under budgeted. It was budgeted at $500,000. And that, that does not, that's not going to pay for the park. Um, but we'll bring, uh, I think we've got a couple sources we can look at. So we're confident we can make that happen. And then, um, we'll move on to look at Middle Acres Park. Um, so now we're committed. It's under process. I understand the frustration has taken a long time, but we're fully committed. Thank you, Mr. Noonmaker. I know some of the residents are listening tonight. So I just wanted them to hear it, that we're committed, and that we're not going to let that park. Absolutely. Yes, ma'am. Not move forward. So thank you very much. Um, I wanted to just let everybody know that we're all excited about the Love Mural, and Glendon Hall has been so great at working that, and with supportive administration with, uh, Business for the Arts. But based on my post on that, I was contacted this week by, um, another muralist, who primarily works in New York, but she has a studio and plantation. And she's, um, a Latina. She's from Argentina originally. Her name is Magda Love. And it was just kismet that it was meant to be our conversation this week. We're going to have coffee on Monday, and then hopefully I'll put her in contact with, Glenn, and with Parks. Um, but she really wants to create something in the city. And she said she was trying to get a hold of the schools, and nobody was getting back to her, so we're going to make sure. And I thought that would be great, um, if, you know, she would like to do something in the city. We're coming up on, uh, Latin American Heritage Month in September and October. So really excited about that. So it just, I wanted everybody to know that we're putting these things in place, um, and it's having a ripple effect. So I'm very excited. Um, very excited, even more so than ever, uh, to be walking with our fire department in the Pride Parade on Saturday. Um, I wasn't able to be there last year. Um, but you know, two years ago, when I was there with another organization, and it's always just a wonderful celebration, uh, so many people that were there viewing the parade thanked me for being there. And it kind of takes you back a little bit, but I think we understand more now than ever, um, why they feel that appreciation. Uh, there's a lot of hate in this world, and I think that we should do everything we can to support our department and our employees and our residents. So I'll be out there proudly walking on Saturday. I think you'll be there as well. Okay, great. And, um, that's it. Just happy Juneteenth. Happy Father's Day to everybody. And I think it was a great meeting and a lot of great discussions. Thank you. Um, Memorial Day service, uh, was another great event. Um, compliments to Shannon and Parks and Rec. Mayor, I believe you started that tradition last year with, um, asking people to stand up and recognize a loved one that served. I think that's a great tradition. I hope that continues. Um, so very good. Last week, I graduated from the inaugural Broward MPO Transportation Academy. And thank you. So that was, it was a commitment. It was five hours a month for five months during my busy season. Um, but, you know, the knowledge, the, um, relationship building with the staff of the MPO, and then, uh, the relationship building with the, uh, other electeds from our neighboring, uh, cities and, in the county and, and, uh, county commission. Um, I thought it was time well served and, um, looking forward for that to continue to pay off for our benefit. And then, uh, happy Juneteenth. Happy Father's Day. Vamos Gatos. Go Panthers. And with that, we're adjourned at 920. Boom, let's go Panthers. Go Panthers. Happy Father's Day. We'll be right back. See you guys next time. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.