City Council — Jun 26, 2024

Sunrise, Lauderdale Lakes, and Lauderhill. While I served in Tallahassee, I also take this point of privilege because it is my first opportunity that I've had to speak in front of the council here. And thank you so much for being gracious to me when I've been absent. I really appreciate that, knowing that I don't deliberately absent, but I'm here today. The committee that I served on during my legislative sessions were Health and Human Services, Choice and Innovation, Local Administration and Federal Affairs and Special District Subcommittee, Post-Secondary Education and Workforce Subcommittee, Pre-K Appropriation Subcommittee, Water Quality and Treatment Subcommittees. Those are the committees that I served on. This past legislative session, I was asked to carry projects in the amount of 2.7 million dollars for the district. The governor vetoed 1.7 of that to leave 952,000. That would come to our district and just, again, for a reference of education. So those dollars are when, like last, the previous session when the City of Plantation came up, there was the ADA that we were asking for funds for. And those are things for the infrastructure for our communities that makes the quality of life better for the community. And so I was a little bit saddened, but I wasn't able to get that particular project as well. I remember I was in the airport in Jacksonville and I saw the lobbyist and I was like, Lauren, we're going to do something. Who else? Let's call Senator Osgood. We're going to figure this out. So I'm grateful that I have the relationship with even Senator Osgood, that we're working across the aisle to make sure that we are serving the community. So I wanted to just share that quickly with you. So we didn't get the ADA complex, but I think we did, no, we didn't get the playground, but we did get the ADA in the previous legislative session. Also want to share with you a couple of the bills that I carried over the legislative session. One which becomes effective July 1st is called the career themed courses for middle schoolers. What it will do is middle schoolers, parents will be able to know about the option for career themed courses for their child as they are entering into middle school years. So they at least have the option to know, the options they have as they are matriculating through their school years. Also I carried a bill for veterans assistance, being a veteran myself that was quite passionate for me to carry. So the veteran assistance bill, I'm hoping when I go back to Tallahassee to introduce the bill again. It did get a lot of support from the Florida Department of Veterans Affairs and various veterans organization that did like the bill. But staffers and et cetera and some of my colleagues did not like the fiscal that was attached to it. And so we're going to go work through and collect some data to be able to better prepare, to be able to bring that forward again as well. I also co-sponsored a bill for that is now going to be in place as of July for special observances for November to make it military month. So November is going to be considered a veterans month. So in the state of Florida. And I co-sponsored another veteran bill for the veteran long-term care facilities admission, whereby spouses no longer are veteran spouses not have priority in our veterans' homes. So their spouses can join in with the same level of priority that they're not leaving their loved one home as they are going through. And then I also co-sponsored another veteran bill that veterans when they're moving in the state of Florida, that they can use their skills that they gain in the military to be able to, their licensures, to be able to just go right into the workforce. So those were a couple of the veteran bills that I sponsored. I also co-sponsored the reading initiative bill, where, or pre-K into kindergarten, that they will have the opportunity for us through the summer reading program to be able to get help, to help bring our students up to par in our states. And with the bill, there were two bills of interest for me. Well, not just two, more than two, but I'll share two of them. The homeowner's association bill, which was passed, it creates an educational requirement for homeowner's association directors and requires that the homeowner's association post their official records on the homeowner's association website. So that's part of the carve out in the bill. And then also there was another bill for mental health and substance abuse, which made important reforms to the Baker Act and the Marchman Act by streamlining the process to make treatment more efficient for those people, given a level of discretion for them to access service where they were restricted before. The last, in our last session, just to inform you as well, our budget was approximately $117 billion for the Hometown Heroes Program, which a lot of our military, police officers, teachers get to take advantage of. And then also the increase in salaries for state employees, which was approximately 3% that our state employees would get this time. And then the veteran dental care program, which we appropriated $1 million out of our general revenue for a program for dental care for our veterans. Currently, if you are not 100% service-connected disabled, you don't get dental care. And so this will give the opportunity for them to host different dental workshops, not workshops, but different dental events that they are seeing, seeing these veterans to be able to care for them. And also the volunteer pre-K program, which provides a 3% increase for the base allocation for students and for those in the regular school system. So those are a couple of the bills, a couple of the budget items that I was really interested in seeing. And I look forward to continue serving you as I go back to Tallahassee next session and working with you for the continued relationship to make Plantation, the wonderful city, one of the cities I admire. My sister is a resident of Plantation. And so I'm always driving through these cuts of the road. I love the green space in Plantation. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Representative Dunkley. Did you guys have questions? I don't see any questions. Sorry. Thank you for being with us tonight and thank you for your service to our city. Stay here for one second. So just so the public knows, we have a lot of state representatives who each have a piece of Plantation. Daryl Campbell has a lot of the northern part. Mike Gottlieb, the southern part. You picked up a piece. We used to have Dan Daley who no longer has us. Am I missing a couple, Councilmember Hoyley? That's it. So we have three. So Representative Dunkley is one of three. And tell them how to get a hold of you because if you have complaints, I want them to hear it. All right. I have to do it. So you got to do it. All right. So if you want to tell me how much you longer, you can call me at 954-746-1672. Did I get it right myself? 1762. Thank you so much. And I look forward to being with you on 4th of July. And one more thing about it. So the other thing is, we always love having her at Memorial Day and Veterans Day because she is a veteran. Tell them where you served and how you served. I served in the United States Army where my last tour was Iraq. We were the second unit to go over. So I got to see all the fun stuff. Well, thank you for your service. Sometimes you need me to be your hype man, you know, so I got you there. Speaking of, this is a pleasure tonight. It is Siobhan Edwards Day. Those of you, those of you know, Siobhan spent 26 years. She helped you in the, I mean, her claim to fame. Come on, the explosion, the marketplace explosion. Not your claim to fame. You didn't do it. And the, you know, everything with COVID and everything and invited Councilmember Andreu. She ran up the proclamation and we're grateful she did. So floor is yours, Councilmember Andreu. We will recognize, we have several dignitaries in the audience with us this evening and they will all be recognized. But this moment right now is for our dear Siobhan Edwards. The proclamation reads as follows. Whereas the Greater Plantation Chamber of Commerce has been serving the plantation community since 1962. And whereas the Greater Plantation Chamber of Commerce has been a catalyst for the economic success of its members and the city of plantation because of the leadership of Siobhan Edwards. Siobhan has served as president of the Greater Plantation Chamber of Commerce for 26 years. She said briefly, people asked why I did this because you have served for 26 years and you deserve this and so much more. Whereas Miss Edwards has advocated and empowered hundreds, if not thousands of small businesses, fostering economic growth and driving prosperity in the city of plantation. And whereas Siobhan played a pivotal role in the building and maintaining of relationships and collaborating with business owners, community stakeholders and several elected officials. And whereas Siobhan successfully navigated the Greater Plantation Chamber of Commerce to the most challenging economic and turbulent times, such as the gas explosion in 2019, the COVID-19 pandemic and so many others. And whereas Siobhan Edwards has dedicated 26 years in fulfilling her responsibilities with the Greater Plantation Chamber of Commerce and making a lasting impact, a lasting impact on the prosperity and wellbeing of our entire plantation community. Now therefore Nick Sortel Mayor and the City Council of Plantation Florida do hereby proclaim Wednesday, June 26, 2024 as Siobhan Edwards Day. We invite the entire City of Plantation and we encourage all the residents to join us in recognizing and honoring the contributions that you have made to our city. And we're not trying to make you cry, we're not forcing you out, but we believe in giving people their flowers while we can and so we could not let this year go by without honoring and recognizing you. So from the bottom of our hearts. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to talk first. So I have here this lovely presentation bouquet and you might notice there's multiple colors of roses. So red is for love because obviously there's a lot of love in this room for Siobhan. Yellow is for friendship and look at how many people are here tonight to recognize Siobhan and the friendship she gives to all of us. Pink is for joy and we all know how Siobhan brings joy to everything she does. And most importantly, orange roses are for passion. So Siobhan is passionate and not just about the city, the chamber, but her family as well. And she makes time for all those people that are important in her life. So I just want to thank Siobhan and that she with this beautiful bouquet and all these lovely ladies. Okay. I'm going to try not to make eye contact because that's my kiss of death of crying. I'm Irish. We cry. So a few things and one was probably the biggest shock I have is that Diane. Don't look back. Don't look back. Diane Benjekovic is here, which is like, wow. And Diane put something on her Facebook this morning, which was like, holy crap. I have worked with five mayors in my term at, yeah, half, more than half. Because there's four. Yeah. Well, and actually you could be, you could be six. So I worked in there for a little bit. So, which is a lot. And yeah, but what I want to say is that if I look around the room here, the relationships, which is something Barb taught me a million years ago, everything is about the ships. So in my role at the chamber, it's always about the sponsorship. So, you know me, if I'm calling you, I'm looking for money. It's about the relationships that you build with all of these people. And it's also most important about the friendships. And if I look in this room, which I'm trying not to do, I will tell you, I have been blessed with some of the most amazing friends. And a lot of it is due through the chamber. But as some of you know, I mean, I gave the run twice for city council. So what always, as we say, you do that, and then the friendships you build out there on the campaign trail end up being some of your closest buddies. And though I campaigned against Tim and lost to Tim, we have turned out to be very good friends, I think. We ran against each other? What? We ran against each other? We ran hard. Oh. Yeah. But it always turns out, and as soon as it's over, it's behind you and you want that person to, you want to work with those people. It's not about making enemies. That's a very good point. It's not about, it's like, what can we do together to make our city great? And everybody knows my heart is plantation. I moved here in 1980, raised my children. I'm not looking back because she'll really make me cry. But my daughter, Kimmy, who I love and adore, but when the kids were growing up, many plantation police officers got to know Kimberly because she had a bit of a red-foot Kimberly. And we'd get the call and they're like, well, what do you want us to do? I'm like, Christ, I can't pay more insurance. Just give her a stiff talking to. And she got away with a few. But now, thank God, she owns a collision shop. She can take care of all of those things. But there's so many old and new friends. I look back, one of my oldest, closest, dearest friends, Joanne McDonald. We grew up together here, raising the kids. Such an important part of my life. And while my kids were growing up, we had Michelle, being who owns Southern Fragrance, and employed two of my daughters there. And we all, I mean, it's just like these relationships go back so far. And they're so amazing and so special and so important. I'm very appreciative that my sister Patricia and her husband Richard are here. I know I'm forgetting people. I'm so sorry, but I'm looking at it. And then, of course, all of my board of directors. This is like so special that you guys have come out on a Wednesday evening. I'm glad it isn't a Panther game or a presidential debate. So I appreciate that it was tonight. But if I haven't recognized, I have Chris Rieger who just supported us all at the Renaissance Hotel. And we were talking about it this morning. Amazing. He gives us that hotel. And we were talking about what that impact is to the chamber. And that gift from the hotel is about $30,000. They open up that hotel and give us everything. And these are all about relationships. So I got to know Chris first. And then a couple of years ago, we were at a board meeting. And we said we needed a new marketing person when Giovanna left. He texted me on the table, I think I may have somebody for you. Now his wife works for us for over a year. Everything is about these ships. So if you don't understand and appreciate how wonderful, Lee Hillier. Lee Hillier, I worked on Lee's campaign when you first ran. Oh my gosh. That was correct. Thank you. You guys blessed me so much. Like yourself. Yeah, it is. We are all very blessed and we're all standing here. And so I just want to again thank everybody. If I didn't call you up by name, I apologize. But it doesn't mean that you're not super special to me and that I love and adore all of you. So we want to also, you mentioned it, but the Fane family who planted the seeds. So we're so appreciative of them. And we're going to try and take a group picture. Let's see if Michelle can leverage that. Because we have a lot of people. The whole chamber just did. If you're in the chamber, you're in the picture. Give me a hug. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you so much. So well-deserved. I did pretty good. I didn't quite too much. No, you did good. I'm sorry. That's what you did. Hey, how are you? I know. I feel like I know everybody. Hello, Sam. How are you? Good. There's someone who loves you. Is that just sweet? Jill, you might want to keep that chair there because we've got friends in the library next. Thank you, Mayor. Oh, you did. Thank you very much. Thank you for everything. Oh, absolutely. Got that. So next up is friends in the library. They have a check presentation. So we like those. So we got Connie and anybody else? Friends in the library next? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. And anybody else? Friends of the library. Come on up. Monica. Let's see. Catherine, Catherine, Donna. Put some on the back end. Okay. You're making me feel better about myself. Meg. Meg? Yes. I saw you earlier on. It took me a minute. Okay. All right. So let's give him a minute to clear here. Yeah. All right. All right, it is my privilege to present a check for $20,539.64 to the Helen B. Hoffman Library from the Friends of the Library. You have more to say, right? Yep, I do. Good. This check is in addition to the $5,000 holiday gift that we gave in December, as well as the $236.09 covered in book planning expenditures. So that makes our total yearly donation to the library of $25,775.73. There we go. These monies are raised through the annual author's luncheon that we hold each March, our bi-weekly book sales in our used bookstore, and our book sales just restarted in December of 2023 after we had a three-year hiatus due to the COVID closures and the renovations at the library facility. And during this time period that we were off, we boxed our donations and sold our books to Better World Books and online sales. Every cent that is raised is possible through donations and countless hours of volunteer time. We are very happy that our organization is able to support our city library, who we all feel is a very important city resource. And if anyone is interested in joining our group, information is always available at the front desk in the library, or feel free to contact any of us. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. So we always thank the Funds for their generous gifts, and you can see that getting us back into the library building has made a huge difference in our fundraising abilities, because that tent in the parking lot was really hard. I'm Monica Knapp. I'm the library director. And the money is already spent, because we have needs. And one of the big things that the Funds of Library sponsors, the summer reading program, which is going on right now, prevents that summer slide when our students are out of school. So they pay for everything associated with that program. They pay for all the large print books in the library, which are our number one circulators in the collection in our community. And we have a big order of non-fiction children's titles coming in as we're preparing for back to school. So every penny that they earned goes back into our community, and we couldn't appreciate it more. Very good. Anybody else? Okay. Membership applications in our purse. Yes. And I think today a six-year-old from Davie came and visited, driven by Mrs. Swartle. She loves the book. She got her card last week. My granddaughter. Very good. Okay. We are going to skip to service awards first. And first up is 25 years, Steve Peraza, utilities. He had his cake last week. I did. Chocolate ganache. Thank you, sir. Anything you want to say? Yeah, sure. Okay. Good evening. I'm actually a man of few words. I know some folks may actually disagree with that, but I am. 25 years is a milestone, so I think it deserves more than just a few words. I promise to keep this under three minutes. So, yeah, 25 years. I started really thinking about it the other day. It's a quarter of a century. It's well over half of my working life as an adult. To add some perspective here, Mr. Polio is currently the sixth different director I worked under, and I believe, Mr. Swartle, you are the fifth different mayor. By the way, thank you for the cake. And for the record, of course, Mr. Polio is by far the best director I've worked under. I had to get that in there. Yeah. So I started my journey with utilities in the field on the meter crew, and through the years have performed various different essential functions for the department, ranging from the regulatory side to policymaking. Over those years, I've been fortunate to have worked alongside some hardworking, dedicated, and talented individuals, folks that believe in the core mission of utilities, which is essentially to provide clean drinking water and to treat wastewater in a safe, economical, and responsible manner. These are essential services. As stated above, at the core of our mission is providing clean drinking water and treating wastewater. That's where it starts. Water and wastewater operations are complex and fascinating, and I encourage everyone to learn more about it. How to watch a video on YouTube and or go and tour a water or wastewater treatment plant. I think you'll find it fascinating as well. It's our job in utilities to keep providing these essential services 24-7, 365, through any kind of weather, rain, or shine. To add to that, we're also constantly facing challenges from timing the replacement of aging infrastructure, implementing newer and better technology, and dealing with various and ever-changing regulatory mandates. So, yeah, utilities is a big and complex operation, and it really does take a lot of hardworking, dedicated, and talented individuals to keep the utilities machine running. I'm really proud to have been part of a great team for the past 25 years. Plantation is really a great place to work, and I'm looking forward to many more productive years with the city and with our great utilities team. Thank you. I have to hold my... It's all good? 20 years. Thomas Bickham Police. Hey! Congratulations. Anything you want to say? Go Panthers. Do you work in a different unit? SWAT? SWAT. Yeah. SWAT. Okay. The fog. Appreciate you. Congratulations, sir. Yes, sir. Ten years, Robert Hogg, police. Anything you want to say? Not really. Okay. Just lock your doors and don't keep your keys in your car. That'd be good. So, I'll talk on behalf of Council Member Horland and I, both and others who took the Citizens Police Academy course and Council Member Reinstein. The thing that we found amazing about SWAT is they study hour after hour after hour and train. And it's muscle memory for something that literally you don't have snapped here. That decision is made like that. And, boy, I would never sleep if I had to do that. So, much respect to you. You don't. So, yeah. Much appreciated. Thank you very much, sir. Sure. Sure. Thank you. Thank you. Five years. Patrick Woodley, utilities. Good. Very grateful. A couple utilities days. Yeah. All right. Thank you. I didn't have a speech, but it's been five years working for Plantation. Like Steve said earlier, greatest director, Donnie Polio. And I just got my A license operator and I produced a great drinking water to the whole city. Very grateful for that. Parks and Rec. Five years. Christopher Cooksey Aquatics. Chris Luck. Yeah. Oh. You slipped in on me. Very, very good. And Rec. Yes, he did. Yes. We moved things around a little bit. We realized that Chris has some good organizational talents and some good skills. And so we've given him added responsibility. So he handles finance and racket sports. Is that close? And aquatics. Aquatics. I don't need finance. No, no. Finance. It's part of racket sports. Anything you want to say? Swim lesson registration opens Sunday at 8 a.m. Sorry, Phil. Taking one from you, bud. No. Yeah, I need to see you at the pool more. I'll see you tomorrow. 7 a.m. Pool opens at night. Yeah. You wait for your hand. Oh, thank you. You said you wanted to shake your hand. Pull me out of the water. Thank you very much. Fine? Yes. Great. I appreciate you. Thank you. And last is Dillon Pool Police. Not here. Okay. So that's it. Back to you. Thank you, Mayor. Parks and Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Rec. Oh, wait. We skipped over some things. You go sit down. So we got a sandbag presentation. Sandbag distribution. I sandbag myself right there. We all love our sand. I got sandbags. Man. Good evening, pal. We're going to lose the rest of our audience after this one. That better? Okay. I know. First time every time. Good evening, council mayor, city attorney. Matt Thompson, public works director. So we're going to do it nice and do it twice with a presentation for the citywide distribution of sandbags in preparation of storm season. We did switch to the slideshow around, which I'm sure that you guys have solved because it should be when and where first. So we'll go ahead and get started. We're going to be doing this for the month of July. Where? At the public works compound and office located at 750 Northwest 91st Avenue. When? July 1st through the 31st. Monday through Friday, 8 to 4. Saturday, 8 to 2. Closed on Sundays and, of course, closed on 4th of July. We're going to be distributing eight sandbags per household. The sandbags will be self-filled at the stations in the back of the transfer station. There'll be signage and everything getting you back there. Residents during the week must come into the public works office to receive the bags with proof of residency. Weekend distribution, we'll have public works staff, police explorers, and the fire cadets out there to assist. And anyone else that wants to come and help out, feel free. We're going to provide assistance for elderly or disabled residents. If you're unable to, just go ahead and ask us. We'll have some pre-filled bags ready to go. We'll get you in and out pretty quick. And we're there to help. Obviously, weather this time of year is a major factor. So stay tuned to social media or give us a call at the office to see if the weather's questionable. We're going to provide the shovels, a sandbag filling device, eight sandbags with ties, and the sand, obviously. Thanks, Bill. Suggested items for you to bring. A tarp or out sheet for your trunk, drinking water, gloves, proof of residency, and, of course, patience. Here's our contact information. And that about sums it up. Any questions? Short, sweet, to the point. We are going to be deploying some message boards and signage along Cleary. It is going to interfere with the park entrance along 91st Avenue for Saturdays. We realize that, so we're going to get ahead of that. Post up message boards, notify staff, notify Pickleball. The other entrances on the west side will be open. Felix has worked on some great mapping to get the residents still into the park. We'll post all that on social media, share it amongst all the sites. And last but not least, we are looking, I should have had Siobhan in here, but we're looking for any local businesses that are willing to donate maybe some morning refreshments or lunch for the staff and volunteers. So I'll throw that out there. Councilmember Anderson? I think you tipped your hat, but is the sand coming from the dredging? Yes, sir. I assume that. That's a wise use of park. What better way to upcycle? That's right. So it's been tested and everything through all the procedures, and it's great sand. Why not utilize it to benefit the community? Anything else? Councilmember Weinstein? Thank you, Director Thompson. This is great. My only question is that residents are supposed to pick up the bags during the week. Will you have a sign where they enter so that people know that if they don't have the bags, they should be online? Yes, so there's going to be a sign around 91st Avenue that directs them to the Public Works office. So can they still pick up? But if they come in on Saturday morning and they haven't already picked up their bag, you're going to send them out, or they can still come in and pick up a bag? Saturday morning, you're going to proceed all the way to the back where we're set up with tents, and everybody will be back there. We'll be out there assisting on Saturdays. Okay. Because I thought I had read that they must come during the week to pick up the bags. During the week, you're going to stop at the Public Works office, because we're not going to stop outside all day if we get four or five people throughout a day. So we ask them to stop in the Public Works office. We'll give you your bags. If you need assistance, just let us know, and then we'll go back there and assist you. I think that's all we got. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Not yet, Mr. Goodrich. Danny. One more. PFAS Education. Mr. Polio? I got to do that, right? Did you want to do it? Did you want to announce to me? You're okay? Hi. Good evening. Council President, Council Members, Mayor, and Attorney Ezra. We're really excited to be here tonight. We've been working on this for a little while. You all have been aware of it, what we've been doing. No other municipality has done this that we know of to date. So, again, plantations out in front of things. Several months ago, plantation utilities started working on an education, campaign regarding PFAS, Forever Chemicals, and what's in your drinking water supply. We specifically wanted to provide both our residents and customers with the most accurate information available. We all know how information doesn't get out there the way that it should. This was a result of multiple news articles which were circulating the country regarding these compounds relating to drinking water and creating a concern with the large population of the country. We reached out to our consultants, Hazen and Sawyer, about creating the content for our campaign. And it just evolved from there between our staff, Hazen and Sawyer's professionals that we hired to do this. Just to be clear, PFAS is real. There's, you know, no sugarcoating that. And it's a problem that's going to be around for many years. But having the best available information regarding PFAS with the available treatment methods for treating potable water should reduce or help reduce a lot of the concerns that the public has. Our educational campaign is going to include a webpage dedicated to PFAS, a fact sheet that's going to be available for both handout and online, PFAS and You video, which is going, you'll be seeing this evening, and a social media campaign, which is going to run for five weeks, which Michelle will be heading up. Again, Hazen and Sawyer helped produce all the content for it, a lot of it's information from the EPA, and again, Plantation being on the forefront of this. None of this could have been done without the support from the mayor, administration, council, and our consultants, Hazen and Sawyer. Before I turn this over to our consultants, I just want to give a special thanks to a lot of those that have helped with this setting this up. And again, I think this is going to be a model for many municipalities to copy. Our utility team, first and foremost, the utility professionals. Felix, Felix Casado, he did the video for us, put a lot of time and effort into it, and thanks to Matt for allowing that to occur. Laura, with our content, she assisted with a lot of review and going through and helping us get it right. Michelle Casado, she's going to be heading up the social media campaign. And Hazen and Sawyer's team, Janine Wengruffy, Monique Duran, Dr. Stephanie Ishii, Anissa Raffae, and Jeff Neal. With that, I'd like to turn it over to Dr. Stephanie Ishii, who will be doing the presentation tonight. Thank you. We'll be available for any questions. Thank you, Dan. Thank you very much. Good evening. My name is Stephanie Ishii, and I'm an environmental engineer with Hazen and Sawyer. We serve the city in the areas of water and wastewater consulting services, and very happy to be here with you this evening to provide an update with respect to drinking water and PFAS. So PFAS, P-F-A-S, is an acronym for PER and polyfluoroalkyl substances. PFAS is a really wide range of manufactured chemical compounds that are very much so widely used throughout societies across the world, and we've been using these compounds since around the 1940s. The reason these compounds are so ubiquitous in industry and in our household products is because of the durability, the convenience, and the water and stain-resistant properties that these compounds bring to our products. As an example, you find PFAS in nonstick cookware, fast food wrappers, firefighting phones, clothing, furniture, and other really common products. And much of what I just said might not be new information to you because not only are PFAS fairly ubiquitous in society, they've also been very much so covered in the media over the past few years. Media topics have spanned everything from the products where you might find PFAS, the anticipated impacts of PFAS on both human and environmental health, and then also just the overall cycling of PFAS within our environment and within our society. Because PFAS compounds are really tough. They're very difficult to break down, and because of that, they tend to cycle not just from our products to our skin, but our products to our waste, to our water, and so on. And more specific to the conversation that we're happening today, much of the conversation, the media coverage has been related to the presence of PFAS in drinking water supplies. And so the reason we have information about the presence of PFAS in drinking water supplies is that we very regularly and very frequently monitor drinking water supplies for the presence of potentially harmful contaminants or constituents. And very much so more frequently than we do monitor other things that we might eat or drink or breathe or generally be exposed to. And so because of that availability of information related to drinking water quality, much of the media coverage has been about PFAS in drinking water. And so I just wanted to comment on the fact that although we have this great information about the presence of PFAS in drinking water supplies, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency estimates that only about 20% of our exposure to PFAS in general is by way of drinking water in communities where it's actually present and not being removed. But the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency or the U.S. EPA has very much so responded to this information about the presence of PFAS in drinking water supplies and the role of drinking water in our overall exposure to PFAS by way of adopting new national drinking water regulations for six PFAS chemicals. Those six PFAS chemicals include two very widely used and older PFAS compounds. We refer to them as PFOS and PFOA, PFOA, as well as four newer PFAS chemicals, all of which are listed here. So those newly adopted drinking water regulations set maximum contaminant levels that are allowed for those constituents in drinking water supplies and those maximum contaminant levels are very much so enforceable. Those limits are for the individual constituents as well as there's a limit for the overall cumulative or summed concentration of all those constituents together. These newly adopted drinking water regulations require that municipalities monitor and measure these six PFAS compounds and their drinking water supplies. They require that municipalities report those concentrations to the public. And then importantly, these regulations require that municipalities take action to reduce PFAS concentrations in their drinking water supplies if they're shown to exceed those previously discussed limits. And so very happily I can share with you today that the city of Plantation is very much so prepared to comply with those national drinking water regulations for PFAS compounds. And the reason the city is prepared is related to the treatment technologies that are already in place at both the east and the central drinking water treatment facilities for the treatment of groundwater. So as you see here at both of the water treatment facilities, Biscayne groundwater is withdrawn and sent to a treatment train. That treatment train is inclusive of cartridge filtration, nanofiltration, degasification, disinfection, and stabilization. And the focus of our conversation today is really with respect to nanofiltration. Because that nanofiltration unit process allows for clean water to pass through it. And other constituents, chemicals, bacteria, particles, various minerals are rejected by the membrane, meaning that those constituents cannot pass through the membrane. So the original motivation for the selection of nanofiltration at these two water treatment facilities was related to its ability to separate hardness and dissolved organic carbon out of our drinking water supplies. But today that selection of nanofiltration allows for these facilities to continue providing high quality water to the city as residents because not only does nanofiltration provide protection against dissolved organic carbon and hardness, it also provides a really broad spectrum of protection against various chemicals, minerals, bacteria, including PFAS. So as the city is preparing and already doing its PFAS sampling campaign, it gets to go into it with the benefit of knowing that you already have nanofiltration, a best available technology technology as designated by the U.S. EPA for the removal of PFAS in place. And so the city has already chosen wisely with respect to its selection of drinking water treatment technology. But just wanted to comment also the importance of thinking about PFAS moving forward as well. And the fact that there may be additional investment required of the city in the future if the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency opts to regulate PFAS not just in drinking water supplies, and then wastewater supplies and other water flows as well. Because as I mentioned before, PFAS compounds, they're tough, hard to break down. And so because of that, they tend to cycle from different areas of our society, different areas of our community. And generally we're looking for the best opportunity to remove those constituents, whether it's drinking water or otherwise. And so with that, I just wanted to end on this comment here with, as Danny mentioned, that the city has really opted to go forward with this PFAS outreach campaign to prepare information for its residents. And so that this conversation is one that's had very much so at the forefront with respect to drinking water quality and overall public health protection. So the objectives of this campaign, as you see here, are to proactively address concerns about PFAS, to provide answers to the most commonly asked questions, and to provide additional protection actions that residents can take themselves. Because it's important to remember that although we're talking about PFAS in drinking water and waste water, drinking water and waste water facilities do not create these PFAS compounds. The environment does not create these PFAS compounds. The reason these PFAS compounds are present is because of industrial activities and the general use of products in our community. So we can make treatment decisions to reduce our exposure, but there's also an outreach element of this to ensure that industrial dischargers are coordinating their selection of products and that communities in general are recognizing where they might be able to reduce their own exposure or contribution to the water streams. And so with that, we're going to conclude with the fact that this campaign is inclusive of everything from a web page dedicated to PFAS, an FAQ document, social media campaign, and then lastly, this PFAS and new video describing this water treatment process of nanofiltration for the protection against PFAS, which we'd like to share with you tonight. It's reliable, fresh, and high-quality drinking water to more than 4,000 Plantation residents every day. But since we know recent headlines about PFAS might suggest otherwise, we want to explain how we work every day to protect our residents from the potential risk of PFAS in our drinking water. Here in Plantation, we take the quality of our drinking water very seriously. Safe drinking water is the lifeline of our community. That's why we've invested in state-of-the-art technology to provide the best available protection for our community. I'm Nick Sortle, the mayor of Plantation. I have full confidence in the water quality here. My family and I drink our tap water every day. But let's learn more about PFAS and our exposure to that. I'm Dr. Stephanie Ishii, a water quality specialist with Hazen & Sawyer, and also one of the city's drinking water consultants. PFAS, aka Forever Chemicals, is a large group of chemical compounds that has been in production since the 1940s, and it's commonly used in many household and commercial products. These are chemicals that companies create, manufacture, and apply to products in order to make those products stronger or easier to use. PFAS are being invented and applied to products all the time. The manufacturing of PFAS and the use of products that contain PFAS mean that we're introducing these chemicals into our bodies, our homes, and our environment. Examples of PFAS-laden products that we use pretty frequently include things like non-stick cookware, or fast food packaging, or even the water and stain-resistant fabric that's in our clothing and on our furniture. Once these chemicals enter the environment, they unfortunately stick around for a really long time. PFAS are tough, and they don't easily break down. So we essentially pass them back and forth. We consume PFAS, and then we deposit them back in nature, only to later consume them again, sometimes in the form of drinking water. All the while, these PFAS are accumulating in the environment, in our bodies, and in our bloodstream. Research is still ongoing to determine how different levels of exposure to different types of PFAS can lead to a variety of health effects. But work to date suggests that exposure to certain types of PFAS may lead to adverse health outcomes. Plantation uses the best protection available for drinking water, a technology called nanofiltration. Nanofiltration provides a broad spectrum of protection against contaminants, including PFAS. Let us show you how it works. Filtered water is pumped through nanofiltration arrays. Each array consists of numerous fiberglass tubes, which contain a thin film composite membrane. The thin film composite material is wrapped around an inner pipe hundreds of times. That thin film composite membrane is a semi-permium material that allows clean water to pass through it more rapidly than the undesirable elements contained in the water, enabling us to separate out and eliminate those impurities. The infinite water is forced from the outside of that wrap through the material to produce what we call permeate, or a water flow that has permeated the membrane. The permeate goes on to become our drinking water. The membranes reject, or don't allow through, a wide range of contaminants, including bacteria, viruses, the components that contribute to hardness, such as magnesium and calcium, and a wide range of chemicals, including PFAS. This purified water, or permeate flow, now separated from contaminants, undergoes some additional treatment, and then it's collected and delivered straight to you and me as drinking water. Plantation had the full thought to install nanofiltration decades ago. Knowing it could provide the best protection available against the challenges of today and tomorrow. Right now other cities from coast to coast are scrambling to build facilities that provide the protection Plantation has enjoyed since 1990. That said, there are learning ways you can manage your exposure to PFAS through product choices and thoughtful behaviors. Please visit plantation.org to learn more about how to best protect yourself and your family. Your health and safety is our top priority. Thank you for choosing Plantation. Council Member Andrea. Thank you, President Batchen. Excellent video and presentation. Thank you to everyone involved. What is the link, we're not saying the big C word, but what is the link between PFAS and cancer? And also, does the EPA actually give like a letter grade to municipalities for their water quality? Yes, so the health impacts that are generally associated with PFAS are indeed carcinogenic nature as well as some reproductive system impacts. But it's very much so a function of the type of PFAS. As I mentioned, it's a really wide range of chemicals that are included in PFAS, as well as the actual concentration that they're present within the drinking water. And so the regulations that have come out are very conservative, meaning very much so on the lower end, it's actually at the analytical capability level of what we can measure for PFAS in drinking water. And it's also important to note that although the regulations are specific to six PFAS compounds, the technology that's used to remove PFAS, nano filtration and others, are very much so the same technologies that would remove other PFAS compounds as well within that group, even if they're not one of the six. So does that answer your first question related to the health concerns? Yes. Okay. And then second question, you asked about the grading of the US EPA. And so there is publicly available information, not just for PFAS, but for all water quality targets that utilities are required to meet to see is a drinking water utility consistently meeting those targets. So that's publicly shared as well as, of course, made well known to the EPA, our state regulators and the utilities themselves. I don't know if you want to speak to your experience with just the compliance. Well, one of the quick things to take a look at is our annual water quality report. That sums up the water quality in a nutshell. We're required to meet the minimums all utilities are across the country. And every year we're required to put that out. And you'll see where plantation either meets and or exceeds a lot of those limits. So we're one of the more closely monitored and regulated fields there are. And for good reason, you know, we consume water every single day. Everyone consumes it. And I visited the facility and it is, it's very impressive. So again, thank you. Council Member Horland. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Dr. Ishi. My only complaint about the video is that our utilities director was not featured in it. And we heard earlier that he is the best utilities director of plantation fab. So that's my only complaint, but I think it's great. It's behind the scenes. I want to ask you a couple of questions. You're obviously familiar with the Environmental Working Group. And they are often quoted in a lot of these news reports. So how do we answer residents when they come to us? Because you can go into the Environmental Working Group website, put your zip code. Now, I thought when our plantations utility came up, it looks great. But if we just want to take one of the chemicals, for example, they list arsenic and the legal limit is 10 parts per billion. And they say that we are the health guideline. We're over it because they set a different health guideline than the EPA. So can you give us some information as to, and I know they're not a government organization, they're more of an activist organization, how we can answer those questions? Because obviously it's a carcinogenic, and they list it as causing cancer, potentially. So specific to PFAS or arsenic in general? Well, specific to how we, because as you said, there's so much in the media right now. When people come to us with this type of article, and this happened to be, I think most recently in the Miami Herald, but it's, it's been nationwide. When they put in their zip code and they see this and says, well, we're off the limit. They're not, we're not over the EPA limit, but how do we address that, that EWJ is saying, EWG, excuse me, is saying it's over their limit, their recommended limit? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So I would say generally with respect to PFAS, arsenic, any water quality constituent, it is the obligation of a municipality to comply with all national and state level regulations for drinking water quality, which, which we certainly know. And I know that we do. And those limits are all health based, as well as treatment technology based. And some of the data that comes out from EWG is with respect to raw water. So it's all really important to also make sure that we're looking at data specific to the actual distributed drinking water post treatment, because that's why the treatment barriers are in place is to make sure that we're addressing those raw water constituents and concerns and making sure that they're not present in the distributed supply. But very much so, I think it comes down to this fact that it's the national and state regulations that is our obligation. But utilities, including City of Plantation, go above and beyond in many respects with respect to aesthetic criteria, community specific criteria related to hardness and other parameters that aren't necessarily regulated, but speak to the health and enjoyment of that water overall. Thank you. Thank you. You gave me that with the raw water because I did not know that. So that's the distinction that we need to be able to speak to. I didn't mean to interrupt you, but that's a, that's a very, that's a very good point that needs to be, you've got to separate, finish water. All throughout the country, you have well water, surface water. There's multiple sources where you draw your water source from, okay? If you were to test everybody's sources across this country, would they meet the standards? Absolutely not. That's why we have treatment. Plantation, we're fortunate, fortunate enough to have the most advanced treatment that, that we can, we can have. So everybody's finished water. I mean, before long, do you recall there were articles about how you could take treated sewage or treated wastewater and turn it into drinking water. Uh-huh. We're a peninsula. We could treat salt water if we wanted to. It's how much does a gallon of water work? Hey, maybe 500 years from now, it's going to be worth a million dollars. Who knows? But you can treat almost any source of water. But when you run those tests on that source water, regardless of what it is, that's where you're going to get the numbers that exceed national limits. And I appreciate the distinction because I think in a lot of this material that's in the media, it's recommending that people install a reverse osmosis system in their homes. They're saying the carbon filters don't work. We don't want our residents to be, you know, unnecessarily alarmed. I think we're all alarmed about the PFAS in the environment, but that's a great answer. So thank you for giving us that information so that we can answer the question. Very good. Don't see any other comments. Great presentation. Very informative. I'm glad that we're in the forefront of trying to educate our residents and our users of our utility. I hope I'm not opening a can of worms, but I do know that if you call the director, who will give you a tour of the water plant. And it is fascinating. He just won't put it on video. What's that? I said he just won't put it on video. He just won't be on video. The wastewater plant's very interesting too, but do that in the fall. Cooler months. It's baking right now. So I don't see anybody else who want to make any comments. So thank you very much. All right. And again, thank you all for the support that you provide. Mr. Goodrich. We're just trying to get you to do your squats up and down. I was going to run up here before you wouldn't be able to change your mind. Good evening, everyone. Just a few announcements for the Parks and Recreation Department. Next Thursday, a big day for the city, for the country. So we're just going to start off with our Independence Day parade. It'll start at 9 a.m. down at 46th Ave. and Broward Boulevard. And it'll end right here out in front at the steps of City Hall. Stepping off right at 9 a.m. Then in the evening out at the center. What's that? Rain or shine? Yes. Then in the evening out at Central Park. The Kids Zone will open at 6 o'clock. Concert will begin at 7 p.m. The band we're going to be featuring this year is Mr. Nice Guy. A very popular South Florida band. And fireworks at 9 p.m. The show should be a very nice show this year. We're really happy about that. Zambelli again. But we're really looking forward to a nice show out there. Hopefully the weather holds off. So Friday, July 12th, we have our Daddy Daughter Dance, the Hawaiian Luau. That'll be held at Volunteer Park from 7 to 9.30. $20 per couple, $8 for extra kids, ages 6 to 12. Saturday, July 20th is our back to school barbecue and backpack giveaway. Very proud to say staff has gotten together this year. We're going to have 500 backpacks fully stuffed and loaded for the folks. Free school supplies, food, games. Must show valid plantation ID to be able to get those backpacks. But staff has done a really good job at instituting this a few years back and has really grown into a really fantastic event for the public. And we're really looking forward to it this year. At our tennis center, Saturday, July 6th through Sunday, July 14th. I know you folks have gotten an email today. We have our girls 14 and under clay court national championships. This is 35 years between the 12s and the 14s national tournament. This is 35 years we've been hosting this event in the city. It's one of the most prestigious juniors events that's in the country. So we're really happy about that. Opening ceremonies will be Saturday, July 6th, 1 to 4.30 at the Central Park Gym. Play begins at 8 a.m. Saturday, July 13th should be semifinals, weather permitting. And Sunday, July 14th finals, again, weather permitting this time of year. Aquatics, you saw Mr. Cooksey earlier receiving his five-year pin. He's done a fantastic job at growing the aquatics programming. And this year we're looking at hosting 1,000 swim lessons. Putting 1,000 kids through swim lessons programs. So we're really proud of that. So Sunday, June 30th, we have our swim lessons session number five. Registration begins at 8 a.m. And then our new summer weekday hours for the Aquatics Complex. Obviously, we're in the middle of summer camp. We've got a lot of camp counselors or kids out there. So we're opening up a special hour just for our aquatics members from 7 a.m. to 8 a.m. to come in and get their swim in before we get the mad rush of kids. So we're looking forward to that as well. Lastly, I have athletics PAL. Current registration openings are for fire basketball and tackle cheerleading. And the golf athletics, we're across the board with everything that we can do out there. If anybody has any questions, they can reach us at 954-452-2507. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Public requests of counsel regarding municipal affairs. Those who wish to speak request that you complete a speaker form. If you've not done so already, please do. Please state your name and address, and please address your remarks to the council president, not the mayor or individual members of the council. Please keep your remarks to the allotted three minutes, and former council member Hillier, you are up. Good morning, everybody. Thank you very much. It's hard to get some good sleep because I've had a lot of nights without sleeping because of the Panthers having won. Almost got those. And especially, I'm kind of piggybacking off Holland. Thank you very much about the anxiety at the times that I met with Huizinga about pushing, and I have the paper with April that I was going to or will hand out to y'all about in 1995, trying to put the Broward at the logistic element was the old Jefferson Ward is now Strayer University, right next to Sam Devolo, as well as African American corner along Sistrunk. That's where I wanted the arena. But over time, it is built out in Sunrise, so I have to become enthusiastic. But I have reservations in the sense that a good asset our community has is for transit. When we have disasters, when we have disasters, we have a staging area at the arena out west for us in Sunrise. So that becomes a benefit for our community in the larger aspect of it. My little prop is the hockey. We got the ice hockey over here at Central Park, and here it is on July 27th of 1999. Flip the other side. Flip the other side. And on the other side is Lightning Lee Hillier. It doesn't say Jerry. I got my dad's in my office. He should have his own. It's in the office. Correctamundo. But when I was back in the day when I had some athletic in Mankato State, we were national champions multiple times, and of which I then was living in a paternity, and we were 39-2. We won national championships, and fortunately I was with 19 different sports. So I was a pretty good jock. I have a better nephew, and she is a CrossFit, and now she has a young son, Asa, who is six years old, and he is the little rock. And so when I look at Barkoff, our team takes an elbow room and takes Stanley and goes jumping into the Atlantic Ocean was a special moment that I will always have. So I want all of us to enjoy the spirit, but I would like some additional trees for our community. And I want to thank the entire team, especially Mayor, and we got it done that the Winnie trees are built at Veterans Park, and it was accomplished. And Mr. Goodrich and his team did a fabulous asset to our community. I think everybody will enjoy it, and I drive by it constantly. And thank you, and thank you, President, as well, and the entire team for having been there on Memorial Day. So thank you very much. Thank you. So here's the paper through yourself, but I'm an old black and white kind of guy, and then here's the World War II with Winnie on her 2000. Nobody disagree with them tonight? Nope. All right. Ms. Clark? Oh, I did have a prop for Musk Moose, our guy from Plantation, died in February of 27, and he went back to World War II and came back. So I wanted to give him an acknowledgment that many of you might have the opportunity to acknowledge his greatness of World War II. Thank you. Chris is doing a good job. Where's Chris? I don't see him back there. Make sure to cut you a nice wide radius so I don't get hurt with that thing. Oh. Hey, Sarah Clark, 10451 West Broward Boulevard. It's been a minute since I've been able to be here. I've been traveling a lot, and I'm going to be traveling a lot more. So forgive me for not being super up-to-date with everything that's been going on. But yeah, while I'm here, since this is one of the few meetings I'll actually be able to attend, I just wanted to come back and just say I don't know exactly where things are with the parking ordinance that is either in the works or maybe it's already written. But I just wanted to encourage you guys to take it all the way because there's been a lot of research done on it. We know for a fact that it's better for the economy, better for the environment, better for people. Matt mentioned something to me recently that I think he mentioned in an email to Commissioner Reinstein about the people who are already outside of cars. And I think we kind of have this attitude towards those people of like, okay, well, you know, it's your fault you decided to suffer. And a lot of times it's really not a decision. But even if it is a decision, even if you can afford a car and just choose not to drive it or whatever, it's still something that people should really be thanked for. Every person that decides not to drive is making our air cleaner, our streets safer, and is not contributing to congestion. So we really should be prioritizing that. One of the best ways we can do that is by eliminating parking minimums in everywhere that we can. So citywide would be great. But there's been a lot of research on this, and I just I highly encourage you guys to read up on it. I wish I had my cardboard cut out right now. I miss him. I don't know what he is. I think he's in one of the offices now. But Donald Shoup is a great resource for that. His book, The High Cost of Free Parking, it reads like a thick economics textbook. So if you're not into that, there are other books. There's one called Paved Paradise, How Parking Explains the World by Henry Graeber, I think is the name of the author. That's a good one. If you're not sure about it, if at any point you're hesitant, if you can find the time to read a book about it, I recommend doing so. It's a really interesting topic. There's a lot of things related to parking that we just don't think about. And it really is the first step. It's the first thing that we have to do. Is it ever going to stop going, you know, move beyond just like let's accommodate, you know, people who don't drive and towards actually prioritizing people who don't drive? I'm trying to think if there's anything else that, no, I think that's really all. Well, to give you an update, I know that PNZ has been scheduling meetings with the council members to discuss where we want to go with the minimum parking. So it is in process. Okay. And Mr. McIntosh and Mr. Goldstein sends us regular emails about the benefits of getting rid of the parking minimum. Cool. And Mr. Wynn. Sorry, Mr. Wynn. Thank you, guys. Nice to have you back. Ms. Lambero. Good evening, everybody. My name is Mary Ann Lambero. I live at 466 Southwest 59th Avenue. I want to start by mentioning that in no way did I make my concerns last meeting about personal relationships, nor would I. I was an individual attempting to make it appear I was talking about them. I was not. However, what concerns me more this meeting is deception that's going on. By that I mean we have parks announcing children's summer camps, athletic programs, and then a pride parade. They don't go together, and I'll tell you why. Three words. Family-friendly events. Our Independence Day parade, concert, and fireworks is a family-friendly event. I ask, is this a family-friendly event? Our Christmas holiday parade and light-up city hall is a family-friendly event. Is this considered a family-friendly event? Sorry. Our concert series in the park is a family-friendly event. And I'll ask again. Is this a family-friendly event? I know the picture's kind of small, but next time I'll bring posters. Art in the park. Earth Day. Doggy Palooza. The Easter Egg World Food Truck at Booby Night. Trunk or Treeck in the park. Water Matters Day. Earth Day. All family-friendly events. This event in Oakland Park is not a family-friendly event. That is the deception. This should be called a grooming event. Our name plantation does not be attached or affiliated to something of this nature. I recommend to everyone who is listening to me to please go visit this website to educate yourselves. Jamie Lee Mitchell, founder of www.gazeagainstgroomers.com, by who is supported by our great Governor DeSantis. And again, I will say that I do not speak of personal relationships. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Corman. Two extra minutes, please. Okay. Thank you. Sorry, I got completely distracted by what just happened. Rob Corman, 11095 White Hawk Street. There we go. Good evening. I'd like to start tonight with a short history lesson. It was Alexander Hamilton who, when talking about the authority and influence of government, referred to, quote, the power of the purse and the power of the sword, end quote. This phrase was a shorthanded reference for how the legislative and executive branches were able to maintain their respective authority in the eyes of the citizenry. The executive can call upon martial powers while the legislative can withhold funding. Of the judiciary, Hamilton said in Federalist number 78, quote, it may be truly said to have neither force nor will but merely judgment, end quote. It is the very notion of judicial independence, the idea that our judges are above the fray from which citizens derive respect for and grant authority to judges, including those who sit on the Supreme Court. Anyone who has been paying any attention to any news source recently is aware that the current court has an image problem. I contend that the image problem is a result of having lost sight of the obligation to be independent of the political sphere as was intended by the founders. The judges of the highest land are not subjected to the same ethical rules as members of the other branches are. They are not subject to the ethical standards that judges below them are. This is where the loss of confidence by the people comes from and that loss of confidence is insidious. It shades everything they do under the clouds of politics and partisanship. So why bring up SCOTUS here in plantation tonight? The answer is politics and partisanship. As you know, I hold you all as my representatives to a higher standard of behavior. Any and all of your actions should be viewed through a lens of ethical and appropriate behavior. Politics and partisanship should have, quote, no place in your roles in our city. Now, obviously, you exist in a political environment and were elected to political office. Politics, though, is a different beast and you know it. The politics I am referring to is doing or saying something because it is convenient or expedient. It is ignoring or conveniently forgetting the ethical obligation you have to us and to your office. Allow me to provide an example. Last month, there was a discussion in chamber about whether to levy a fine against the school board. I applaud council members Anderson and Andreu for accusing themselves from that item as there was a conflict of interest caused by their employment. At the last meeting, the issue of school zone cameras was discussed and voted on. I will comment accordingly during the legislative agenda or legislative item tonight's agenda. However, it is my understanding that the school board will get a portion of the revenue generated by tickets from that system. So, there was a conflict of interest when the question was whether to cost an employer money, but there was no conflict of interest when the issue is one that could provide revenue to the same employer. Why the inconsistency on recusal? It is actions such as these which allows that shadow of politics to be cast upon this chamber. Not everyone will view this as an issue worth bringing to light, just as some will not consider ethical lapses of SCOTUS judges as a big deal, but it is. You all have an obligation to do the right thing every time. Sorry, just totally swept through there. As for partisanship, let's look at the upcoming election. I saw a post on Facebook from Council Member Horland after the qualification deadline pass that congratulated Council Members Fajan and Andreu for being elected without opposition. Very classy. However, I urge caution. Comments cannot be unsaid and can easily be misinterpreted. The appearance of siding in a race with one candidate or another is fine for citizens. Your voice has meaning and significance beyond mine. To advocate for one candidate over another is to create the perception that anyone else would be a detriment rather than an asset. There is a reason why local races in Florida are nonpartisan by law. You are all council members. You won. You have the job already. Good for you. If someone asks for your personal opinion as a resident of the plantation, by all means provide it. The moment you go into the public square with those same opinions, you risk everything you have worked so hard to do for our city. Please keep the politics and partisanship out of this building. As for family friendly events, they are intended for families, but there are many types of families out there. None of the events that this city sponsors are required attendance. Don't let that sway you. Council Member Andreu would like to say something. And I know that we normally don't comment on public comments, but I am compelled to because I have to set the record straight. We spoke to our city attorney, Attorney Ezra before taking that vote. Or I can at least say I had a conversation through Mr. Noonamaker who spoke to Mr. Ezra and said there was not a conflict of interest and that is why I did not recuse myself. I just had to state that for the record. Thank you. Okay. Mr. Nguyen, you want to speak to something that's on the consent agenda. So I'm going to move you to the consent agenda. Do you have anything you would like to speak of other than named roadways? I didn't have the law of business. But you want to speak during public requests of the council and you said named roadways. And I think that pertains to item one of the consent agenda. So if you'd like to speak to that, I'm going to hold you over. It wasn't necessarily. I'd rather keep the topic with the consent agenda item because there's people who are going to want to speak to it. Is there anything else you'd like to speak about? No. All right. We're coming up to you soon. Did Mr. Conklin want to speak tonight? He's online. Thank you. Dennis Conklin, 4581 Northwest Sixth Court. Heavenly hosts protect you and all your families. It's been 1,566 days of martial law when they had us mandated with masks, lockdowns, losses of our causes of worship, and our God-given individual rights. It's been 689 days since the FBI illegal raid of the Trump family home violating the 4th, 5th, 6th Amendment rights when the president requested and declassified the crossfire hurricane document. It's 330 days since the arraignment and gag order of the president removing his First Amendment rights. It's 275 days since the summary judgment violating the president's Seventh Amendment rights to a trial by his jury. And it is 264 days of the Hamas war attacks against Israel, the Israelis, and every freedom-loving person. They're now in a coordinated attack here, a jihad that started on the campuses. And it's been in 22 states. It's now been affecting the White House. And now these terrorists are blocking synagogues. It is 133 days since President Trump's 8th Amendment rights were violated with excessive bail and fines and cruel and unusual punishments. And it is the 28th day of the president's 34 make-up charges for declaring legal bills and not campaign bills, which was the same thing that Hillary Clinton did when she defended her husband against the molestation charges against his female counterpart. And I would like to make requests for next week that 12 plantation students read the Declaration of Independence after the parade. I would like to have, as we're into the budget process, I would like to end all budget spending on mandatory CT, that is training in the diversity and equity and inclusion and the CRT and the ESG, which is very decisive, actually, and divisive against Americans. I would like to request to end all budget spending for electric vehicles and charging stations. I would like to request and encourage the state of Florida to begin a bullion depository and transactional gold and silver. And I would like to request for electric vehicles, which is Article 1 and Section 10 of the Constitution. And I would like the city to jump in and join these suits by the state of Kansas and Texas now to recover damages and any deaths from the Pfizer false claims, which does not, it doesn't have anything to do with the vaccine protections because this is their fraudulent claim that the jab, which is a countermeasure, it's never mentioned in official documents as a vaccine because it's a weapon, a biological weapon. Dennis, Dennis? Dennis, you need to wrap it up. Dennis, you need to wrap it up. It was just the opposite. So I yield back my time. I tried to get in on the, because I may request for the CRA, but it didn't come up. Okay, Dennis, one last thing. Do you have any consent agenda items that you want to speak to? Okay. We lose them. Going once. Dennis, can you hear me? I was trying to give you one opportunity. Yes. Yes, I can hear you. Sorry. I was just asking, is there any consent items you wanted to speak to? None at all. I only had the request from the public. Okay. And nothing on legislative or quasi judicial? That's correct. I did put in for the CRA and it was on the comments, but it didn't come up. I couldn't, I had my hand raised, but it didn't allow me to speak. That's behind us. Thank you. All right. Anyone else from the chamber that would like to speak for public comment before we move on to the rest of the agenda? I don't see anybody. Public requests to the council regarding municipal affairs are now closed. The consent agenda consists of items one through 17 and may be approved with one motion. Does any member of the council wish to pull an item? I see that members of the public would like to speak to item one. Yep. And I was going to pull item one myself. Is there anybody, any other items from the chamber that would like to pull for the consent agenda? Seeing none, can I have a motion? Motion to approve items two through 17. Second. Ms. Begaro, please call the roll. Council member Andreu? Yes. Council member Horland? Yes. Council member Einstein? Yes. Yes. I got distracted. What? You called me? Let me just start over. Let's start over. We're running a meeting here. Council member Andreu? Yes. Council member Horland? Yes. Council member Reinstein? Yes. Council member Anderson? Yes. Council member Fadgen? Yes. Thank you. Okay. Item one. Resolution approving the designation of Southwest Six Court from Pine Island Road to Southwest 78th Avenue is Jazwares Way. So I guess I had some questions and I think the public has some questions. Is that a private road or is that our road? I prepared five slide quick show if you allow me to present and then I will take questions. That sounds good. Go ahead. Of course. So we're going to be talking about the street name modification, allocation map, mock-up of the proposed signage and recommendation. So this is the roadway Southwest Six Court between Pine Island Road and Northwest 78th Avenue. This is a public roadway. It's not a private roadway. So, Jazwares LLC, which is the applicant, they requested designation of Southwest Six Court between Pine Island and 78th Avenue as Jazwares Way. If the item is approved, this how it will look, there will be a plaque or the sign will appear as Southwest Six Court and then Jazwares Way will appear underneath that Southwest Six Court. Currently, there are five buildings located along Southwest Court. All active tenants and property owners of the five buildings were notified about this proposed designation. And I want to clarify something over here. There is a code section 2322 that provides direction for this process and guidance for this process. There is no notification requirement for this process. So the city went above and beyond to notify tenants and property owner of what's going on. I just want to add this back. If approved, the business owner or property owners or tenants will not be required to utilize the designation, but they are welcome to do so. As I said, application came officially in front of us. The application met section 23-22B, which is the designation and renaming of the street. Staff in conjunction with the administration, we recommend approval for this. Okay. All right. So, private road or? Public road. Public road. Does the developer own all those pieces of property? I saw in the memo. I forget the name of the developer. I was going to type right in my notes. But I guess actually the first resolution had the developer on behalf of the applicant or the, as Jazwares. Now it says Jazwares on behalf of the developer. Is that? The tenant. Was that the change? The tenant is the requester and the applicant. Okay. And actually there is a representative from the tenant today is here. Okay. If there's any questions regarding their corporation. Okay. So those plots of land on 5th, the five buildings, are those different owners? Yes. Okay. And we, they spoke to him. Did they give us a thumbs up, a thumbs down? I received two opposition to this item. One verbally, Mr. Steve Weinberg, who is here tonight. I spoke to him verbally and he expressed his opposition to this resolution and this designation. And then we received a letter from South Point Property Management and the homeowners association for the property opposing the item. Okay. I think we all got the letter from South Point Property Owners Association. What's the area? Can we go back to the map? What's the area of the South Point Property Association? Is it that rectangle there or? No. It's the entire office part. From where to where? From basically south of Pine Island? Yes. From Pine Island to Peters, 78. Okay. So it, okay. That's where I thought. 90 acres, I believe, right? Yes. It's all the way to Peters Road. I have some, this doesn't really have to do with this item, but it really has to do with our process. When we're going to name something, whether it's a park or whether it's a street, what kind of background checks are we doing? You know, so that we don't get mud on our face by accidentally, you know, and this doesn't have anything to do with Jazwares. This has to do with protecting our reputation because there's reputational things that happen, you know? So when we received the application, we looked at the code. And the only code and the only reference in the code is chapter 23-22B that speaks to a designation of a street. And we followed that process. We acknowledge that the code is outdated and actually planning and zoning. It's one of their priorities to work on amending this section of the code. But currently, we don't have a process of vetting. There was no kind of research to do to see if there's, you know, and with the world of Google, you can find things. But I actually feel like when we're going to, you know, it happens all the time. Like, oh, he was such a friendly neighbor. And then you find out he was a war criminal, you know? And I'm not talking about Jazwares. I'm talking about more of our function. I just want to clarify that, you know, from the administration's perspective, one of the reasons we were supportive is if this was an economic development incentive grant project, a relocation of a corporate HQ, something that when we see Class A office space being developed or redeveloped in the city, we're very keen on that because you can look at other markets across the country and that is not happening. So in that part of that economic development process, there is a vetting that occurs because we are partners with the county in that and the alliance. So there is a vetting process that occurs. So we're kind of looking at – Take your point more globally. It's hard to think of an example, but so part of that process, you're saying that we would not have reached out to have them want to move in here if they had some kind of Enron situation. But I don't want to undermine your point because you can see past circumstances where folks who at one point were revered, a building might have been named after them, subsequently not so revered. Right. And so that's something we need to be prepared for. But I would also say in that regard, we will be bringing – in regard to Texaco Park, renaming forward. So the feedback we get from y'all will go a long way towards addressing it in a policy perspective so we can incorporate this into the – Well, one of my other comments is what happens if there is a reputational crisis that occurs with whoever we're naming? Well, that which the council gives, I would assume they can take away. That's not always easy. No, but in this case, I think you're designating this by resolution. We could undo it by resolution. For example, Wells, we granted a $2.35 million incentive. They didn't perform. We took it back. Yeah. I'm torn regarding the letter that I got from South Point Property Owners Association. I don't know if everyone had a chance to read that. I think it went to everybody. Is it just everybody on that sixth court or is it part of the greater association that should have a say into whether or not a road should be named? Is there any other roads named in that complex? I can't think of any. Not that I'm aware of. I've only been here five years, but this is the first type of – You haven't been over here? No, I've only been here five years, so this is the first type of request that I've seen. Okay. All right. I have some concerns. So, Council Member Andrea? Thank you, President Badgen. I have to say I share some of your same concerns. So, I think that I'm worried about precedence because once this is approved, what's to say – you know, we do business with lots of companies, right? And I wouldn't want us to see – to make this a norm. I'm not sure what the contribution was that warranted it. We're grateful that you chose Plantation to do business and to generate jobs, but several companies have. So, I would have preferred to have seen a proclamation like we did earlier. And I think maybe that would have been a more welcomed, I guess, way to acknowledge the great work that they're doing and the jobs they're generating in our city. But I have some concerns about naming of the street and designating the street. A question for, I guess, the applicant. Jazzwares is owned by a larger entity. Is that accurate? Is that accurate? So, good evening. Maria Graglia with Stearns-Riefer-Miller. I represent the applicant, Jazzwares. So, Jazzwares is a Berkshire Hathaway entity. It is one of the leading manufacturers of toys. They have been working with the city of Plantation in order to relocate their offices from Sunrise over to Plantation. They are bringing lots of jobs. It is a great catalyst for the community in many, many ways. I understand your concern. I think that that could be taken care of in the resolution. That you can say that if something happens to this company, they do something that's not desirable to the city of Plantation, that it would be removed immediately. So, you don't even have to pass the second resolution. You can do it through an amendment to this resolution by just stating that it would be taken down if something happens in the future with Jazzwares. So, we had followed the process. It's available in the city of Plantation. I cannot say if other people will want to name the streets. You have the ability. There's criteria. I'm sure it can't be just anyone that comes in and says, I want to name the street with my name, right? There is a reason where you would invite people to do that and allow that process to go forward. So, we are only availing ourselves of the process. We think that we're happy to be in the city of Plantation and we hope to be a great company and stay here for a long time. And I hope that you all welcome us here. Again, you know where I'm very happy that you are here and again, generating jobs in our city. We want, you know, residents to live, work, play here, but I just have some, some concerns regarding. And understood, and I want to just make sure that everybody understands. We are not taking away the street sixth court. It is still going to be known as sixth court. And anyone along sixth court can continue to utilize that address. We're not telling anyone or mandating anyone to utilize Jazzwares. So, that's really important. And we have a mock-up that we'd like to show you. And by the way, I want to introduce Michelle McLeod. She's the director of- Michelle McLeod, yes. Director of Facilities, hi. Yes. Okay. Hi. I grew up here in Plantation. I've lived here now 53 years. So, this is very exciting for me. I've worked on this project directly with everybody in the city and it's been a very exciting experience. We have officially moved in. We just got our CO yesterday. Yay. Congratulations. And we are, we now have just about 500 people in the building. At Jazzwares, we make happiness. We make toys. We are one of the, we are a wholly owned Berkshire Hathaway subsidiary and we make Squishmallows. Squishmallows seem to make everybody happy. Knowing that the street will continue to be utilized, we've brought a mock-up here showing the dimensions and sizes. And everybody that still remains on that street would still utilize their address as Southwest Sixth Court. Our intention was to utilize as our global headquarters, our address of 7850 Southwest Sixth Court. And continue growing with the city. So, this is a very big step for us. Our owners are very excited about it and we are very excited to be part of this community. If we were to approve this, would you be agreeable maybe in reversing the layout where Sixth Court is primary and then Jazzwares would be more the Sixth Court? Or is that a... Actually, this is a code requirement. And if you read Section 23-22b... Well, that wasn't part of the backup. Yes. I referenced the code section. You referenced that. I gotta dig through it. Sure. The lettering with the dimension is part of the code. Okay. I'm sorry. We're gonna be working on amending the code. I just wanted to respond to one other element that Councilmember Andrea brought up regarding precedent. Mr. Holmes reminded me that American Express actually had a designation on the roadway. There's a story behind that name. Okay. And subsequently it was taken away. They just sort of platted it up there. It didn't go through a process. Okay. Well, bad example there. That was like 40 or 50 years, so... They believed in asking forgiveness and not permission, and then they left. Councilmember Reinstein. So, first, welcome to Jasper, right? It's kind of a... It's a shame that this discussion has to even be taking place right now instead of just simply a welcome. And it would have been wonderful to do some type of proclamation welcoming you and bringing a headquarters here is huge. And we... It's wonderful, especially hearing your history here. I... I... And I did hear Director Shallon say about amending the code. And it's interesting because it sounds like we haven't had this issue come before the Council in a really long time, if ever. Especially now hearing there may be a story behind American Express, which was a very different time when American Express brought their headquarters here. So, you know, the idea of amending the code regarding this, you obviously saw it. You took rightful... I wouldn't say advantage doesn't sound like the right word, but you saw it and you wanted to utilize it, which makes sense. I'm also troubled by, which has nothing to do with Jasper, it has to do with the notice issue. And this has been something that, you know, we've kind of talked about in a lot of different circumstances is that we follow our code regarding notice, but we often have businesses that will say, well, we didn't get notice. And sometimes it's... We've talked about because it's the owner getting the notice, not the tenant getting the notice. You know, I got, as the correspondence that President Fadgen mentioned from South Point Property, I know that Mr. Weinberg is here and wants to speak also. I'm not sure what we would do is that if, you know, something like this was passed and then Mr. Weinberg with Frank Weinberg and Black Law Firm then also applies, right? So now you have others that decide, hey, we're all of a sudden hearing about this. We live on the same... We work on that same street. Then how would we then take up another request for the same street because there are other businesses there? I would feel very different if every single one of those businesses on the street said, Squishmallows, we love it. Jazzware, we love it. We would love to change that so that we can all be on on Jazzware Street. But I'm hearing that that's not the... on Jazzware Way, sorry. Or Street, whatever you want to call it, right? So that's what's most troubling to me is that you have other people, other businesses that are on that same roadway that oppose this. And so I will say that, you know, Google search Jazzware and everything seems so positive and wonderful. One of the first things that came up was a contribution to Make-A-Wish Foundation. So it has nothing to do with Jazzware. It's the system that we're raising some concerns with. So thank you. Thank you, Councilmember. Councilmember Horland. Thank you, Mr. President. As Councilmember Reinstein said, welcome. We've been so excited about you coming to the city. We've been waiting for you to get out of Sunrise and come to us. You know, there have been a lot of good points made up here tonight. But what's troubling me is punishing you for what's already in our code. So I do think that we need to revise the code and set some standards. I am not one for naming things or places individually for people. I tend to take a much more conservative approach to that because of some of the concerns that have been raised. And I think that we should be much more conservative with that. But, you know, I do really take into consideration what we did to try to lower this company to get here, much like we did Chewy and MagicLeap, working with the alliance and saying, hey, you know, move your headquarters here. So I think it is a little bit different than someone just coming in here and opening up. We had a real investment in this. We had a real investment in this happening and also doing our due diligence. And as to the notice, and we have talked about that, and I'm glad that the code is going to come back so we can. And that's not for you because we're dealing with, you know, your situation tonight. But from what Ms. Shailon said, you were not required to notify, but you did notify. Correct. So you did go out and people were notified. We went even above and beyond. We went to the buildings and we took note of the tenants to Council Member Reinstein constant comment about the notification. We took that to heart because it's not just especially the office building. Sometimes the companies have a headquarter mailing address. So we took that into consideration and we found the business tax receipts and we mailed 21 mailer. So not a lot, but we have only five buildings on the corridor. So out of the 21 mailers, we received those two oppositions. Okay. So I'm not as concerned about the precedents setting if we do change the code and if we were to approve this this evening. I know that not too far away there is Rabbi Harway. And that is similar. It's a, it's an honorary. I don't, it didn't come before this council. So I'm not sure when that was approved, but, you know, similarly, it's still has the identifier of the street. My concern when I saw this is would people be required to use Jazzwares? And they're not. It's again, an honorary designation. So I just think, as I said, I understand all the concerns. I share some of them, but I don't want to necessarily punish this business who availed themselves of what was in our code. And until we change that, you know, then I think, you know, going forward. But I, I think that we did our due diligence and doing our outreach with luring them here with the, with the Alliance. So. Thank you. Hey there. All kinds of things. Number one, are you privy to name the two objectors? Was 24 Hour Fitness one of them or not? No. No. Just pull your ear if they were. As I said, Mr. Steve Weinberg was here. Okay. Oh, he's one. Okay. And the South Point Property Association. What were, along those lines, what were the, the opposition? Did they say why? Did they, or they said heck no, or what? I think Mr. Weinberg and Steve. He'll address it. All right, I'll come back. You're coming up. I'll come back to that one then. Okay. Number two. It doesn't matter that much, but the opposite side of Pine Island is Gatehouse Road. It's not even called a six, but it's residential as opposed to commercial. So that, that kind of punctures that argument. Number three. I'm counting votes here. And. Can I add something about Gatehouse? Is that a public road? Yes. Yeah. Yes. The main road in, if you want to go to Jack around a country club from Pine Island, that's the road. See, I thought, I thought it was a private road. It was at some of the shoots offs because you know, there's, you know, some of those roads are really bad shape and they want help fixing them, but they're not our responsibility. But Gatehouse is. Gatehouse is public road as you go inside the. Lake Dasha, North Lake Dasha, Bluebird Road. Those are all off of there. Sorry. That's okay. Number three, I'm counting votes. And if the votes aren't there, is this something we're better off deferring and having the code cleaned up and coming back? Is there, is that advantageous or not? Well, I have some thoughts about it, but. All right. I'm done. I think I want to hear some additional things. Council Member Reinstein. Yeah. Thank you. I just wanted some clarification regarding the, I heard Council Member Horland talk about Lauren, but bringing in Jazzwares and the relationship with the, I think, Greater Fort Lauderdale Alliance. My question, was there a promise of changing the road? Is there any type of incentive changing the name? No, sir. No, sir. That came up in the course of conversations that we met quite often leading up to CO. And so various items would come up and that did come up in discussion, but it was after y'all had signed off on the economic development incentive package. So, no, it was never a representation. It was a request made by the applicant as indicated. After the fact. Yes, sir. Okay. Yep. Thank you. Why don't we start with Mr. Weinberg? Yes, sir. Thank you. First off, council, mayor, city attorney. Thank you. Long day for me. I am tired, but we only received notice yesterday. So when you speak about notice, we, our law firm, I'm standing here. How did you receive the notice? I believe in the mail or it was hand delivered to our front desk. You received it in the mail yesterday. Yesterday. I'm standing here on behalf of, one, the law firm of Frank Weinberg Black, two, the owner of the building, which is myself and two partners, and three, on behalf of the South Point Association, to which we represent, and my partner, Steve Elkin, also sits as president. First and foremost, I want to go on the record. It's unfortunate that our relationship with our neighbor is under this circumstance. They're an amazing company. They produce an amazing product. And some of the comments in the letter are not directed at all at the jazz wear issues that we bring forth. The issue here is the slippery slope. I'm in this community for 53 years. I went to Piper High School. I believe the only street that I remember implantation being named other than Rabbi Hur, who married me, was American Expressway. The difference there was American Expressway, it was the only business on that street. And this is different. This is a street which services both the fountains, the community to the west, and obviously the five property owners on that street. The biggest issue I have personally as a business owner, our firm represents, by example, many communities in community association management. The mayor is aware of one that I've met him at Loderdale West. Many of these elderly people come to our office. I cannot begin to tell you how difficult it is to bring someone south on Pine Island Road and tell them to make a left on Southwest Sixth Court. By the way, it's the opposite sign to gatehouse to the right when you explain it. So it's confusing. More importantly, my elderly clientele are certainly going to have a problem with this sign. Because now they can't even see Southwest Sixth Court. It is truly, I will just say, overshadowed by Jazzware way. And again, this is not an issue from my personal perspective about Jazzware. I'm thrilled to have them in the community. I'm thrilled that they're going to fill up the restaurants. I hopefully will get clients out of that building. This is all great news for the community. But the issue here is really the precedent long term. It's not something I've seen in the city. I've seen it occasionally on the ceremonies with, for instance, Rabbi Haar. That's not a business. That's an individual who served this community for many years. It's a different circumstance. So again, this is not a Jazzware's issue for me personally. I want to have a great relationship with them. And I intend to. This is really an issue just being a business owner in the city. And to be quite candid, we opened up here in 1989. Had I known this wasn't available, I actually would have liked to have seen Steve's way. So, you know, and we were debating and having an argument in the office today of who their name is going to be up. So I didn't ask for an extra two minutes, but I would like to just speak for another minute if it's okay. This is an important issue. That's fine. My biggest issue, again, is finding the streets, especially with the confusion of Gatehouse to the west and Southeast Sixth Court. I could see myself making an application on Sixth Street, which my property abuts, to the north to change that. It is a slippery slope. It does need revisions to the code, and it really needs to be more thoughtful. I just want to be clear that the only reason this particular business was vetted was because of a community association, some type of a redevelopment, or I'm assuming some grants that came from the city. But we built our building and made our own investment. Would I have been vetted? It was vetted because of another circumstance, not because of the application. The code's deficient in that. Right. Again, I, again, have the utmost respect for Jazz Bears. Amazing business. Toys to the world. But this is not about them. It's really about the city as a whole. And it does, I can't remember any other street being named for a business in this circumstance, on a public street. If it served them only, maybe there would be likely no issue. But it does not. Samira, Mr. Weinberg said that he got the notice yesterday. When did it go out? On Friday. It went out Friday. Yes. And actually, one of the reasons we... And why did we decide? It was kind of like afterthought. Exactly. Because the code does not require notification in our... I know that. Mm-hmm. But what I'm asking is, it's not required. We tried to go above and beyond. Right. Tried to do the right thing. But when we do it on Friday, it's an afterthought. So why did we decide on Friday? Were we concerned that if Mr. Weinberg didn't get the notice, this would have gone through without any kind of opportunity for him to speak his point? Not at all. Not at all. We took our time to vet the tenants, and that caused a delay in the names and the number of notices to be sent. So we were trying to assemble the list. Correct. When did we know this was going to be on the agenda? Just when the city attorney finished the resolution, which was like last week. You know, we were working... But I'm saying, okay, so he finished... So had he not been able to finish the resolution last week, it would not have been on this agenda? There is time for every... how we prepare the agenda items. So we have been working with them for a few weeks now. And again, this is the first time... So if we got it done today, it would have been on next council meeting. The next agenda. Yeah. Okay. All right. So it's not necessarily new was going to be on this. We're attempting to get on it. Correct. And now let me add something. The public notice, which was part of the agenda, I placed it on the agenda for anybody that can read the agenda, to know that this item... And we had the city clerk as the point of contact. Once the notice is received, Mr. Weinberg contacted the city clerk and immediately, I was in a meeting immediately after the DRC meeting finished, I contacted him and we had a conversation about it. So Mr. Weinberg, obviously you're one of the oppositions of the two. Who's the other one? Well, the opposition again, the South Point Association, you know, is just taking the position on behalf of its members, which includes Jazzwares, and not even having enough time to, you know, again, vet all of the 90 acres worth of tenants. You know... What would you feel comfortable with if we pause this to try to get more consensus of the property association? Well, certainly that's more fair. Of course. But my concern just in the overall scheme, as an example in the letter, you know, if the street was named TD Ameritrade Way, would Schwab move in? If I want to sell my business, am I now going to find any company in the toy industry is likely not going to want to consider my building? I just don't think the city should be involved in, again, changing public street names to private business names. Unless in extraordinary circumstances, as I said, American Express had their own road to their own building. It just puts a situation on the owners, and again, I am one of them, that I just don't think it's really part and parcel of the city. Okay. And more importantly, the identification. Now I have to spell my clients, I'm on Jazzwares way. It's not even in Google. So please understand that. What did you say about the sign? Because my recollection of Rabbi Haar's sign is that his name is kind of secondary to the street name. Actually, that's what we thought, too, as engineers, me and Leo. But when we read the code... Leo, go check for us. That's how... No, no, no, no. He was involved as that traffic engineer. He was involved in vetting that... I'm sorry. I was just joking, but I'm sorry for tagging you. Oh, I'm Leonard. Go ahead. Assistant City Engineer. And like Samir mentioned, we thought it was the same way. Actually, we checked a few locations within the city where we actually have it reversed. So that... But the code, this is the way it should be, according to the code. Our code. Our code, yes. So we could change it. That's part of the amendment. Yeah. What's that? I'm sorry. So Rabbi Haar, you took a look at that one. And so that one's incorrect? Yeah. Even the one that's... What it's called? Right. No, no. Between Faith. You know that roadway that goes into Boarwick, like right here? It's the opposite. Okay. And I checked it... Cassidy. Cassidy. Cassidy. Cassidy is the opposite. So this. And I checked with Public Works, and they told me there's a few locations where they have it like the opposite way, but this is the way it should be, according to our code. And I disagree with the code, because I think if you're doing an honorary street, it should not be that prominent. That's my opinion. So I think the code's wrong. It shouldn't be that prominent if it's an honorary designation. Let's continue the public... Did you want to say something before we continue the public comment? I want to get everyone a chance to speak. I just want to say that we don't have an issue with reversing it. As a matter of fact, we only did this the way it was the mock-up, because they told us that that's the way it was written in the code. So we're fine with putting Jasware Waze on the top, where 6th Court is, and switching it. Where I'm leaning with this would be changing the code to reverse it so that... Is it a big deal if we could, depending on circumstance, it could be this way or it could be the other way? Does it have to be one way or the other in the code? Or is it just more of a consistency throughout the city? It is consistency. Plus, remember, with hurricane season and the wind and everything, public works is responsible to maintain. It seems to be safer if it was the number of the street. I'm not saying where we're going. I want to take more public comment. But would you be more agreeable if we flipped it that it was primarily Southwest 6th Court as opposed to primarily Jasware's Way? I appreciate that as a solution, but yes, I'm still opposed. I just don't believe... I'm just answering your question. I don't believe that streets that have a designated street address of Southwest 6th Court with multiple businesses should be designated to any one business. And that's the concern I have. And as I said, the concern if someone Googles Jasware's Way, will it come up in Google? Again, I don't know any of that. There's two things I'm thinking about. One, changing the code so it could be the inverse. And then, two, going back to the property association. Because like you said, you're a new neighbor and this is not how you want to be a new neighbor. It's the last thing I wanted, guys. I'd rather be home tonight relaxing. And again, this is not an issue with Jasware's. I know you know that. I hope you know that. But it is an issue more of the city-wide concept, especially with multiple businesses. It's a very slippery slope and I'm concerned for that. I understand. Go ahead. Come back up to the mic. One comment. He did state that they represent the Property Owners Association. We don't, we can't, when we look at Southwest 6th Court, it cannot be open to the entirety of the, you know, whatever the Property Owners Association is. It should only be those businesses that are within CIS Court, which we saw in the map what it is. And I kind of feel it's property owners on that street that really, if we could come to a consensus. Correct. So we could be friendly neighbors and happy. No, we have no problems with it. As a matter of fact, no one else actually called us or sent any objection to this. The only ones that showed up is, you know, Mr. Weinberg. And again, he's stating you, he's telling you that he does represent the Property Owners Association. And I did look at the Declaration of Restrictions as an attorney. I made sure that I looked at any recorded document in the Declaration of Restrictions. There's nothing in the Declaration of Restrictions of the Property Owners Association that this is not permitted. That they would have no, that it's not a prohibitive issue under the declaration. I want to finish the public comment and then we can circle back if necessary. Mr. Weinberg, do you want to speak to this? You don't have to. It's been a long night. I know you're not very opinionated. Me? No, no. Just Joe Wein, 944 Northwest 92nd Terrace. I never have an opinion on anything. I actually was going to get up originally and speak on the concept of roads being named, roadways being named, being something that creates emotion, creates some sort of branding, perception, recognition, awareness, and obviously excited debate. And I was going to bring that concept along to our idea of expanding our roadway definition of getting around to our sidewalks and our bike paths and saying an idea of let's consider as we build up our greenways, our dedicated bike lanes, our nice wide multi-use paths, consider honorary designations and other city or personal recognitions for those because it raises awareness. It raises stature of them and it raises the conversation about them because the whole point is we want to make them be things that people think of and use. And really was just the idea of taking the concepts that we do on car roads and bringing them to things that we do for people moving like pedaling or walking or running. But given what has transpired, I do have to agree with the attorney here that it's a slippery slope. We're advancing the privatization of public property without any investment from private industry to ensure that it continues. Like I don't think that they're maintaining the roadway that they're going to pay to fill potholes maybe or improve its safety infrastructure or anything. And to the point of accessibility, it's hard to get a sense of how big traffic infrastructure is when you're a person not in a car. The little text, two inches is very, very small when you're in a car moving 30, 35, any, any, even any speed. I mean, if you're just 50 feet away sitting in your car waiting at the light, it's still hard. And you don't want people to go, oh, wait, that's the one and make a quick, hard decision at the last moment because then that makes the roadways less safe for everybody. And the idea of basically setting up that a private company in the area can just sponsor a road that other businesses and humans exist on that they have no then obligation to doing anything for it. But I appreciate them. I do. I mean, I love when we get new businesses here. We welcome businesses into the area that improves the advantage of housing and all of this. But I'm just concerned of this this precedent that we would set. I honestly didn't know that this was a thing. I was always in the mindset of more honorary approaches. So that's Rob Korman, one one zero nine five Whitehall Street. I got to say, everybody, Councilmember Andrea, Fadgen, Reinstein, Horland, you all asked exactly the questions that I had down here. So thank you for that. The comments that came from the audience as well, equivalently important. When I look at this one and what I had the primary objection to it was that, yes, while it is permissible within our code, the question is whether or not we want to apply that permission in this case for this particular reason based upon the current temperature of the city and how we want to bring business in. I'm glad that there was no, in essence, quid pro quo on bringing them in and this name being put there, because now the question becomes whether or not we want to allow Jazwares to have the naming rights to this street by code. I would say at this point to your point, Councilmember Horland, that it would not be punishment to not allow it per the code, because rejection at this point wouldn't be saying you did something wrong. It would be simply you saying we are choosing to not permit it under our code at this time, which is why the idea of possibly pushing it to a later date to determine whether or not it fits with the needs of the code, as you've heard me say with regards to comp plan and everything else, in particular, you've also heard me get up here and rail against some of our sign codes that existed prior to some of the rewrites, that we have been in a way commercializing the city possibly to an extent that we don't want to do. And honoring Rabbi Haar in the way that it was done, but finding out that there's inconsistency with the code as that was applied, now says do we go back and rework all of those signs to bring them up to this existing code, or do we want to fix it all and determine a definition for what an honorarium would be, and whether or not, in fact, a business that's coming in and providing an economic benefit to the city is worthy of an honorarium, or they've managed to pull one over on us. And I don't think that was their intention at all. I think it's a rather smart marketing move to put your name on a sign like this, because it does wind up being a form of advertising. And if it's going to be a form of advertising, we have to decide if, and our code permits it, do we want to allow it or not? My own opinion on that would be no. We should not allow advertising on our street signs. That's it. Thank you so much. Thank you, Mr. Corman. Ms. Gelfand? I left my glasses down there. Vicki Gelfand, 9381 Northwest, 18th place. Good evening, council members, Mayor, Mr. Ezreal. Until I read the agenda for this evening, which was yesterday, I never even heard of jazz wear. Sorry. I have heard of Berkshire Hathaway. I sell one of their products. You want to go in and you want travel insurance? Another one of Berkshire Hathaway's companies. I love Berkshire Hathaway. I own stock in the company, but I still don't know anything about jazz wear. Why not name it Warren Buffet Street or something like that if we're going to really do it? And I appreciate the comment by the attorney about elderly people, because I'm one of them. When you drive and you can't see the sign because the letters are so small that you either have to go around and find out what it says so you know where you're going is one thing. And I am in agreement with what Mr. Wynn said. He's a smart young man most of the time. But I'm just in agreement with what's going on. I don't understand why all these people in 90 acres, I believe you said it was, need to be all known as jazz wear way. DHL, I believe, they don't have a street and they're a pretty big company and they're in plantation. The only other place I know of, and I can't think of the name, where Motorola was, there's a company that, a think tank or whatever it was. What's it called? Magic Leap Way, that's there. Did they pay for that? Was that a legitimate thing? I mean, that's something else you have to think about before you approve having jazz wear way where there's a lot of other kinds of businesses. Thank you. And as the gentleman always says, I yield my time. Thank you, Mrs. Gelfand. Ms. Clark. Hey, Sarah Clark, 10451 West Broward Boulevard. I'll try not to beat this dead horse too much. So I design things for a living. So when I'm looking at a street, I'm thinking it should be designed for the people who are using it. Southwest Sixth Court, that is a name that was designed for navigational purposes. The Southwest, Northwest, the numbers, that was so that you could get anywhere in the city from wherever in the city. You know by the numbers and the directions, by the name of the street, you know where it is. So that does serve a purpose. The other thing is accessibility, the people, that's already been brought up. People like my parents, if they're driving, they can barely see this. Like they're asking for my help reading this, let alone this. So that's just my perspective and I think you get the idea. Thank you. The way I'm feeling about it, I don't know how my colleagues feel about it. I think we need to change the code so that we can do the inverse of the sign. And what I would prefer, I don't think it's necessary for the entire property association to come to a consensus. But certainly a consensus of the buildings on Sixth Court, the five buildings, to see if the compromise, to see if we flipped it, if that would be agreeable to the two business owners that are in opposition to it. And that's how I feel about it. I don't know if anybody has any other comments about it. So you'd like to defer it? I think we should tap the brakes. Let's get our code fixed so that we can flip it. And then let's just see if Jazzwares and their neighbors can have a meeting together and come to some sort of consensus that by flipping it that they'd be acceptable. Because Mr. Weinberg is correct in a lot of the comments, I think I'd have trouble seeing that, to be honest with you, the Southwest Sixth Court. And that's a tough section because you're going around a bend. So there's a couple reasons why I think it should be primarily Southwest Sixth Court and then secondary would be the Jazzwares. I'm sorry for just lingering up here. Can I say one more thing? Yeah, we didn't use your time and you're cold and you want to talk fast. Yes. I just feel like this whole naming public property after a private business thing is just a Pandora's box that we don't need to open. And there have to be a million other ways that we can thank Jazzwares for being here. Maybe one fruit basket isn't enough. Send them ten fruit baskets. There has to be some other way to show our appreciation that doesn't involve naming public property after them. That's just my other thought. So are you making a motion, Mr. President? It seems like we need to have them have their meeting, if they're willing to have that meeting with their neighbors. We're certainly not. What's that? We're certainly not. Okay. And to my original comment, I'm sorry for interrupting. My original comment is I was pleased that we seemingly went above and beyond to notify, but then to find out that those notifications went out so late. Yeah. So that changes it. So if you're willing to make a motion to defer, I would second it. Is that what we should do? So that the parties could come together. Yes, sir. You could. Do I have to put a date on it? You do not have to. Okay. I'll make a motion to defer until the applicant can come back and tell us the result of their meeting with their neighbors. Okay. A second. And then we'll start working on the code. Yep. You think that'll take a long time or there's a lot more, there's that big Pandora box once we dig into this thing. It's something we can get done fairly quickly. It might be the quickest code. Hey, it's just another thing to do. So just smile. All right. So wait, I made the motion. I second. Council Member Horland second it. Is there any other comment from Medea's? Any other comment from the chamber? Ms. Beggaroff, please call the roll. Council Member Andreu? Yes. Council Member Horland? Yes. Council Member Reinstein? Yes. Council Member Anderson? Yes. Council Member Fadgen? Yes. Thank you. Thank you. So Council Member Fadgen, if they went with Squishmallow way, would they get a longer sign? Well, that's a whole other story. Okay. Point of information. Yes. If we all had Squishmallow. Squishmallow after us. That was handed to me. I'm not involved in political areas as you might be aware. Because I've never been here before, being here so long. Will we be notified if this comes back up? At least I understand. Why don't you exchange contact information? I will. Because again, getting the day before was a little hard. That was, yes. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Legislative items. An ordinance amending the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 9, Flood Planing and Stormwater Management. City Attorney Israel, please read the ordinance. Yes, sir. Public hearing, first reading of an ordinance of the City of Plantation, Florida amending Chapter 9, Flood Plane and Stormwater Management, Section 9-3. Applicability and Section 9-11 definitions. Ordinances of the City of Plantation, providing for applicability, providing for severability, codification, conflicts, and an effective date. Thank you. Do we have a presentation? Do we need it? No. Do we have any comments? I'll make a motion to approve. Second. Okay. Any comment from the chamber? Was that number 20? This is number 18. I don't see any comment from the chamber. Ms. Beggaroe, please call the roll. Council Member Andreu? Yes. Council Member Horland? Yes. Council Member Reinstein? Yes. Council Member Anderson? Yes. Council Member Bajan? Yes. Article 19, Ordinance Regulating the Use of Automated Speed Detection Systems in School Zones. City Attorney Israel, please read the ordinance. Yes, sir. Public hearing, second reading of an ordinance of the City of Plantation, Florida amending Chapter 25 of the Code of Ordinances entitled Traffic and Vehicles by creating Article 7 entitled Speed Detection Systems for Enforcement of School Zone Speed Limits, providing for use of traffic infraction detectors in accordance with state law, providing for codification, severability, conflicts, and an effective date. Motion to approve? I think we have some discussion before we take the motion, and I know I have some comments. Did anybody else on the dais have any comments? I think. Go ahead, Council Member Andrea. Thank you, Council Member Reinstein. City Attorney Ezra, for the record, because I work for the school district, is there a conflict of interest in me voting on this item? There is not. In fact, I think after the last vote, I was requested to review the matter. I reached out to the Commission on Ethics. I spoke with their general counsel. And there is an exception for conflicts when you are employed as an elected official by a public agency. I was told that unless the matter will result in a direct financial benefit to you, you would not have a conflict. But again, because these items are so fact-specific, it would be important to review matters in the future in advance of the vote. Because again, you cannot rely upon my advice. You have to rely upon the opinions from the Commission on Ethics themselves. But for this particular instance, we have researched the matter and you do not have a conflict. And again, for the record, I was told that you had researched it before my first vote. Because I did speak to Mr. Neunemaker before, the day before, the first reading of this item, and was told that no, there was not a conflict. So thank you. I just want to make sure I'm very clear with that on the record. Thank you. Excuse me. Just to clarify, we did clarify that. I believe the vote that was further research was the fine vote. And I think I sent a follow-up email as a result of that. But yes, for this one, we did clarify that before this vote. You are correct. Council Member Reinstein. Thank you. So I want to make a disclosure again, as I did the last time, Jennings' disclosure, regarding some communication. So I'm going to make the disclosure anyway that there was communication with representatives of the applicant. My only question regarding this is that when the motion was made for the first hearing, there seemed to be included in the motion that after six months that it would be brought before the council again. Is that need to be made again as a new motion for the second hearing? How does... My understanding is that it does not, that it was not an amendment to the ordinance, that it was directed at staff to bring the matter back. Okay. So in the motion, staff was directed in the motion without changing the ordinance, but it still, does it need to be made for the second hearing? If I may jump in, the motion was made for a similar related item. It was for the agreement with Red Speed, not for the ordinance item. And the motion was approved. So at this point, I don't believe there is further action required from the council. I've personally already made a note on my calendar to follow up in February with the applicant, I mean the vendor and Jason to schedule the report for you to be presented in March. Thank you. So just, just, I want to make sure that I'm as clear as possible and that I understand exactly what we're, if this ordinance is passed today, if it is, we're still assured that within six months from implementation, that the data will be brought to us and it'll be back before council. Correct. That's already been approved. Thank you. Do we have a motion? Okay. Do we have a second? Second. Okay. Any other comment from the dais? I don't see any. Mr. Corman? Busy night. Rob Corman, 11095 Whitehall State. First council member, I thank you for the clarification. I truly do appreciate it and you know why I asked it and you know what standards that I have and I appreciate that it was verified. I still don't necessarily like the answer because it puts it under the ethics board to determine whether or not it's truly there, but I'll take it for what it's worth. As far as this particular issue though goes, and I apologize I wasn't here, I was working for the last meeting. Something to think about, the idea of these cameras, that they are force multipliers is a fallacious one. It doesn't actually work that way. The only way that you can, a force multiplier by its definition is a projection of force based upon the number of officers that we have. So the only way to actually multiply force is to truly add officers. What this particular project will do is it's going to pawn citations to an offsite for profit entity. It does not provide the visible deterrent that you get when you have extra police officers either on the road or sitting there with even what it looks like a radar gun. It could be a hair dryer, but you know for a fact that that's going to provide more of a deterrent than these will. So it's not nearly as effective at the goal that you were seeking to attain unless that goal has to do with revenue generation. And revenue generation in this particular case should not be a factor in making your decision. If in fact it is, then what are your standing orders to our police officers with regards to traffic stops and the need for collectible citations? Things that we can actually collect on to bring money back into the city. If revenue generation actually is such a priority like that, why do we allow code enforcement actions to be waived by a magistrate rather than fighting and aggressively pursuing them? So this notion that this is going to somehow bring in a cash windfall for our city is not actually true. What it's going to do is give most of the cash to the company, small bit to the school board, and we get whatever is left over there. Line of reasoning on this one is particularly flawed. As far as safety concerns, I don't know the answer to this, but I hope you all do. What are the statistics with regards to injuries and damage caused within school zones by speeders and how do they compare to the same statistics outside of the school zones? The reason why I ask that, if they're not identical, then why are we using this technology in a school zone as opposed to the places where we know we have many more traffic accidents and issues with speeders and people losing control and possibly causing injuries and deaths on even separate sets of roads? So without this information in there, while this seems like a really good idea and, hey, this is great, love this, all this, this particular idea is a flawed one because of the underlying lack of logic in the premises that hold it up. So I would be a no on this one. Thank you. Mr. Corman brought up something that triggers something in my mind. I might have a question for Chief Harrison. Sorry, Chief. Nah, come on back up. So my question is, if we have a police officer in the middle of the drop-off period and the pickup period when the camera's active and he sees someone speeding, how does that get rectified if we end up pulling someone over, writing the person a unified traffic citation and then the camera taking it, or are we just saying, oh, we're in a school zone, the school zone will take care of it? Well, no, I believe the officer's citation would trump that of the… So there's a matching to it, I guess? I mean, for one, there was one comment Mr. Corman had made, why aren't we going to do this in other areas? Because the law prohibits that. The law only allows for into the school zones, and that's why it's that. And again, I've said this before, this is a force multiplier for us. So our traffic unit can now go in other directions other than specifically the school zones all the time. Is that primarily what they're doing? Well, they're certainly tied up every year for the first month of school. Because obviously you have new parents that need to learn the traffic patterns and the school zones. So, and again, when you're looking at this, and this is why I'm for this particular item, is because that there's a safety component to this for the school zones, the kids. They're going to advertise this in advance. They're going to with warnings to begin with. And I think once the word gets out there, my goal is that we don't have any citations in those school zones. And I know for the residents of the city, once they get a warning, and I'm hoping it's a warning and not a citation, but there's such a campaign at the beginning of this that there shouldn't be, everyone should know well in advance. You brought up something, you know, what about every school year? Is there a ramp up period, like from the first days? Every, all of these have that advertisement or PSAs. Well, we have our implementation period where it's not really, it's going to be live, but it's not going to be issuing the penalty. But I'm saying like next school year, you know, it would be an effect. I don't believe that there's a PSA involved. You're saying it takes effect day one then, not day 31. Right. Okay. Can I ask a question? Of course. I think Laura had an answer to that. Oh. Just a couple of things. One, it is, again, to supplement police efforts. It doesn't mean that chief will not deploy police officers during the first week of every year to guide parents. Parents loving it to me. We'll be out there more from a traffic pattern, you know, with school drop off, school pickup. I'm out there every year. Now, granted, I'm at South Plantation High School. But, well, one year I was at Plantation High, just to balance it out a little bit. But all of us, not only just, there's not enough traffic people for all the schools. So, it's, our staff jumps in, we all have a school, and our road patrol. Okay. So, it allows us to do that, rather than being out into the... Okay. Council Member Reincey. And the scenario that you had, forgive me for a moment. If police officers, they're actively writing tickets, and we happen to issue also a notice of violation through the camera program, whoever gets that violation can send a copy, and it would be dismissed. The violation, the notice of violation would be dismissed, the ticket would stand. There's nothing automatically happening. There is a review of every notice of violation by police officers to make sure that it's enforceable, but I don't know if that would include double checking that we don't have. But in case, if it slips through the cracks, obviously we'll be working on operational procedures. The individual that will be reviewing these citations will be in the traffic unit. So, they'll be able to look at all the citations that are actually written, and then they can cancel out... They could actually go in there and tell the CSA that's going to be reviewing the citations, hey, listen, if you get one at this time on this date, I was already there. I issued a citation for this vehicle. So, they can go ahead and void that when it comes through for a review. Okay. All right. Council Member Reincey. One of the hopes that we've discussed is that this PSA campaign, this advertisement campaign that this is going to effect, will be the deterrent in and of itself. And I heard President Fadgen ask something which made me wonder is whether or not the next year, right, let's say that we go through the six months, let's say we continue the next school year, and you have new people at the school that are going to be now affected by this for the first time. Can we continue that campaign at the start of every school year so that it's not just we're just doing it for this first time rollout, but that the start of every school year that the families attending the school for the first time are being made aware of it? I would have to check with the... So, absolutely. I don't, you know, the law requires just giving out warnings for the first day so the program would be in full effect, but we can definitely do the communication saying we've had this program, you know, watch for the signs, we will be enforcing it, and we already do a little bit before the school starts, but it would just kind of supplement that as well with telling everyone that we also have the speed cameras. I'd like to see that commitment that at the start of every school year that we're reminding especially new families that this is... They do campaign every year. Okay. Yes. I don't see any other comments. Is there any other comments from the chamber? Can we have a motion? Yes. Oh. Do we have a second? Okay. Ms. Begrove, please call the roll. Council Member Andreu. Yes. Council Member Warren. Yes. Council Member Reinstein. Yes. Council Member Anderson. Yes. Council Member Fadgen. No. Okay. Item 20. A resolution of the city plantation relating to the provision of the stormwater management utility fee. Good evening again. Hello. We covered a lot of this already. So, what are the other methods? There's a uniform method of collecting not at the assessments. What would be another method? Special assessment. Okay. Which actually the city had took advantage of before the stormwater utility fee have been organized. Back in the day, my understanding, for example, the dredging that we today, we just finished, the city had done some dredging projects within our canals, utilizing special assessment. Okay. All right. Good answer. What is the, where's my note? What is the, what was the consumer price index as of last April, which is what I thought I wrote? Uh, three and a half percent, I think. Or four, four point two. Four point two. Four point two. Four point two. So, it's the lesser of four point two or the three point five. Correct. Okay. So, we checked that. So, the revenue increase over last year is seventeen point thirty eight percent. Is that right? Yes. Okay. So, what CRUs are there? Was there an increase? Yes. Okay. There is an increase due to the redevelopment. So, these apartment building, for example, it's, let me give an example, Midtown, Pine Island and Cleary. Last year, they didn't have their CO, so they were not assessed. As these come online on a yearly basis. You said Cleary and what? Pine Island. Okay. As they obtain their CO, we add them to the tax roll. So, from zero to 214, which is the number of apartment because they are residential. So, they are on one ERU per unit. Okay. Um. So, it's not just the increase due to the increase of the rate, but also we do an evaluation of the properties on a yearly basis. Okay. So, that kind of answers one of my other questions because I was saying, like, an apartment building, which is a commercial building, but the units itself are considered dwelling units, and then they get hit with the assessment. Okay. Correct. Um. Did you have an answer for the total amount of ERUs? No. I can't remember. You didn't come prepared? I had five items today, so forgive me for that. It's okay. I will email you guys. So, in the memo, I think this was in the memo. I'm going to just read it real quick. So, that's the 2.02 imposition and computation item C. The city council hereby finds at the rate of 53.56 per ERU ensures that the aggregate stormwater management utility fee within the stormwater service area does not exceed the stormwater cost for the stormwater management services for the fiscal year beginning on October 1st, 2024. So, the budget was not included with our backup, and I know it was in the slides, but in our slides, it was obscured because there was, I guess it had like one of those motion things to populate. So, I wasn't able to sort of look at the, I mean, I know you sort of gave a broad stroke overview, but, you know, I'm a CPA, so I like to look at the detailed numbers of it. So, you know, I would say in the future, since it's not going to be in excess of the assess of the cost that we are forecasting for the upcoming year, I think it would be good to have it as part of the backup in the agenda item. Understood. Now, also, I want to bring to your attention during the presentation, the budget sheet that I included in the presentation was just the operational budget and some of the engineering projects. Well, I would think that we need the operational and the capital budget that we're trying, that this assessment is supposed to address. You know, Jason, you threw out $80. Yes. You know, I can't prove that or get my arms around it. It was just thrown at me. So, you know, I want to probably see it on paper if we're going to... You know, I wanted to bring that up because we talked about moving from fund balance for next year's operations. Right. And to give you all a sense of where ultimately that's going to be. Now, that's a good guess, but we are going to have a rate analysis done for the stormwater. So, you'll have that specifically. And we also want to look at impact fees for stormwater because we've not implemented those. We are in the midst of development, redevelopment, obviously more redevelopment than development. But as new players come into town, we want to make sure that they're buying into the system as well, to take as much of the burden off the residents as possible. We'll keep that thing modernized. Absolutely. As opposed to the 100-year infrastructure, it's crumbling underneath the ground. Okay. I really would like to see the operational and the capital budgets going in the future. No problem. I don't think, you know, you're not going to need me on this vote, but... Council member Andreu? I have a question regarding the timeline. So, this is being sent to the property appraiser on August 4th. But then I saw we're having a public hearing September 12th. So, today's item is setting the preliminary tax rate or non-adveral tax assessment. So, if the vote is yes, we will, on August 4th, both Anna and myself will transfer the millage rate and the other assessment, including the stormwater assessment, to the Broward County property appraisal, so they can issue the trim notices to the public. On September 12th is the public hearing of the budget. So, the stormwater assessment will come before you for a final determination. So, this is a preliminary and the final is on September 12th, similar to the millage rate. I'm, I think, on July 24th, and I will present the preliminary millage rate, and September 12th is the final millage rate. It's part of the budget process. Correct? I'm following you. I'm not following the timeline, because if we voted this up today, and then on September 12th, voted it down, just hypothetically, right? Right. But you've already, but you've already sent that to the property appraiser. As a preliminary. So, you would be able to inform the property appraiser, because when do the trim notices go out? I don't remember. Okay. Anna's not here, so do you know? After the August 4th, that's why the August 4th is the deadline. Maybe it's me, I'll go back and look, but something with the timeline is not adding up for me. But I'll take a deeper dive. But you don't get your real tax bill until November 1st. Right. With the option of paying it by November 30th to get your 4% discount. Yeah. That's it. That's it. Any other comments from the DAIS? Can I have a motion? Motion to approve. Second. Second. Mr. Corman, you would like to speak to the item? Last one of the evening, I think. Rob Corman, 11095 White Hawk Street. I just want to commend our city engineer for that workshop. Really good. Clear. Compelling. Bravo. And Mr. Mulder. Yes. The whole team. Thank you. Bottom line, as citizens, there are a lot of times that we pay taxes that have no direct benefit to us. I do not have a child in public school. A lot of retired couples do not. We pay for fire services that we hopefully never use. We live in South Florida. Any given Tuesday, there can be a foot of rain on one side of the road and be dry on the other side. So the bottom line is stormwater abatement benefits everyone. This particular one, it's a benefit to portions of the city that are often overlooked, especially with regards to infrastructure like this, the older parts of the city. I think we need to take care of them because the reality of what's going on is that the hundred year rain is no longer truly a hundred year rain. It's a false statement there. It's a statistical issue. So we just have to be prepared for it. And we need the tools. So I'm all for it. Thank you. Any other comments from the chamber? And I don't see any more comments here. We have a motion and a second. Ms. Begaro, would you call the roll? Council member Andreu? Yes. Council member Horland? Yes. Council member Reinstein? Yes. Council member Anderson? Yes. Council member Badgen? No. Thank you for your support. Okay. Please read the procedure, Sir Quasi, the additional hearing. Yes, sir. The city clerk will swear on all witnesses before speaking. Please state your name and whether you have been administered an oath. Any speaker may be cross-examined. If you refuse to be cross-examined, your testimony may not be considered. Cross-examination shall be conducted in a courteous manner. The material in the city clerk's agenda packet will be made a part of the record. The city staff will make the first presentation, followed by presentations from the applicant, any affected parties, and the public. The elected officials may set reasonable time limits for speakers. The hearing will then be closed and the matter decided. The city council's decision will be delineated in its motion and rendered in writing by way of a development, order, resolution, or ordinance evidencing its decision. The city council may also decide to continue the matter to a designated time to allow for additional research or review. Thank you. Ms. Begaro, will you swear in all who wish to speak on this item? Do you swear or affirm that the evidence that you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you. Thank you. So item 21, PPT-4-009, consideration of a request for conditional use approval for Unica. The property is located at 201 Northwest 46th Avenue, 4671 Northwest 2nd Street, and zone CFP community facility. Do we need to read the whole thing? No. Okay. It seems like it's been forever since we did some quasi-dedition, so I'm out of practice. Only ordinances by title. That's what I thought. Thank you. All right. You're up. I'm up. Okay. Good evening, everyone. For the record, Dan Holmes, Planning, Zoning, and Economic Development Director. The item before you is application PP24-0009. This is a request by Unica Child Care Center for conditional use approval to allow a 4,173-square-foot childcare daycare center in the city's CFP zoning district, which is the community facility's zoning district. This is a general location map for the city. As you can see, the property is located off of Northwest 46th Street, 201 Northwest 46th Street. This is just an aerial photo of the property. This is the property in question here as highlighted there. And the building that we're speaking of for the daycare is located here on site. The agent for this item is Anderson Glassimus. The overall size of the parcel is about 4.1 acres. And, again, you'll notice that while the portion that the proposed daycare sits on is CFP, there is a portion of the overall property that you see highlighted here, which is RS4K, and that's this portion of the site. And the existing use is a house of worship currently occupied by the Sinai Seventh-day Adventist Church. This is an aerial photo surrounding the property. Again, this is the property located here. Surrounding the property to the north is the Jim Ward City Park. West of the site is Northwest 47th Avenue. South is Northwest 2nd Street. And east of the property is Northwest 46th Avenue. So just some background. This item did come before the council back in December. And there was some debate I'm going to get into momentarily. Some of the previous discussion that was made and some of the things that was recommended at that time and what the applicant has actually come back and tried to address. But the overall site is about 15,497 square foot of the house of worship, which is the main sanctuary. And there's some classroom assembly areas and associated building. And the daycare would occupy an existing freestanding building, which is about 4,100 square feet, as previously indicated. This building initially served as the original house of worship. It also housed the former Sinai daycare and learning center. The Broward Junior Academy School previously occupied several other buildings on the property. That school has since relocated. The Broward Junior Academy was licensed for a total of 100 enrollees. So just to give you some indication that the site has housed both the house of worship and some, you know, schools and other daycare facilities in the past. The Unica daycare is proposing a capacity of 63 children up to five years of age. And they're also proposing to house another 10 after school children aged 6 to 12, which would be a total of 73 students that they're seeking approval for as part of this application. Their proposed operating hours would be Monday through Thursday, 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. And Friday, 6 a.m. to 4 p.m. In terms of the overall staffing, they've indicated that they will have a total of 13 employees or staff as part of the daycare facility. And then the floor plan, which I'll show you shortly, shows seven classrooms, a lobby, an office, three restrooms and a conference room. So I did indicate that this item came before the council back in December. And there was significant debate that was, you know, on the item at that time. And at that meeting, the applicant was given several recommendations, which was discussed with the council, which was they're required to provide an inspection report from the DCF and obtain a student count. They have since done that, which you have a copy of that in your backup. They were requested to consider reducing the student count. I think at that time it was 40 students that was discussed at that time. And the council had indicated if approved by the council and after operating for a year, they could come back and request to increase the size. At that time, just to remind you, the application was for 100 students, but as you see, they were approved for a total of 73, which is what they're proposing as part of the revised application. They were also requested to provide a show teacher parking area on the survey, which will show the parking area in just a moment. They were also requested to provide a copy of a written agreement contract. They indicated that they had some agreement with the First Baptist Church for parking, that agreement is not in place. We have talked with them and the First Baptist Church has not put in agreement with them for parking, as they've indicated. Also, they were required to provide a copy of the conditional use permit with the Jim Ward parking to address parking concerns. There is some information in your backup where the Jim Ward Center had indicated that they would not be able to reserve parking because of the programming and stuff that's done by the Jim Ward Center. Also, there are requests to consider providing notarized letters of support from members within the community. There is some information in your backup which shows some support. Staff did have some concern about what was submitted because it did not really appear to be the truly affected surrounding property owners. Yes, so you do have some backup, but we didn't know that that information was really relevant to those that attended the meeting before and had some concerns about the overall operations of the site. And then some of the other suggestions for Northwest Second Street was either consider a fence along Second Street to prevent people from, you know, kind of pulling up and parking there, or alternatively, cones could be used to prevent cars from parking on the swell area on Second Street. It was also requested a parking attendant to direct parents to the correct drop-off area be considered, you know, along Second Street. And adding to the contract, the parents will be fined if not parking in the designated spaces. They have indicated that they would, as part of this application, that they would be placing cones. Their proposal would be to place cones along Northwest Second Street to prevent cars from pulling on the swell area. And that they would employ up to two individuals that would kind of help direct traffic and prevent people from parking in the area on Second Street. And they've also indicated that the parents that would attend would be required to, as part of their agreement, that they would be required to assign some information that they would not be permitted to drop off on Northwest Second Street. And so, as part of their latest submittal, the applicant has provided additional documentation, which I did indicate is in your backup. Preliminary inspection report from child care licensing and enforcement. And, again, that... Is that DCF or is that a different entity, the child care licensing? Child care licensing is the county's... That's the county's mechanism. Yes. Okay, sorry, go ahead. And so, again, their initial proposal was for 100. What was approved for them was 73. So they've reduced their request from 100 to 73 as part of this revised. Yeah, 100 was a target. Yeah, previously, if you remember back in December. And then child care licensing and enforcement, their suggestion is to reduce it to 73. After they visited the site, they would only be approved for a maximum of 73 students per their inspection of the property. Because the enrollment was all over the place in the memo. So what was their recommendation for starting? They can open with 73? Yes. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Go on. That's correct. And letters of no objection. I talked about the letters that you see there. The applicant is here and can kind of answer exactly who they talked to with regard to, you know, and got the signatures from. And, again, retaining one or two certified security personnel to monitor and facilitate on-site traffic, which they indicated that they would agree to. And implementing a drop-off and pick-up agreement, which we just talked about. So those are the things that, based upon the previous discussion of the items that I listed, these are the things that are part of their most recent submittal that they're agreeing to do, you know, as part of this request. This is a floor plan of the site. Again, you can see the various classrooms, office area, and restroom facilities, conference area. So this is the proposed layout for the facility that they are proposing. And this is the layout, which was reviewed by the child care licensing as well. And this is how they got to the 73 number. This is the overall site plan of the site, which I did show you an aerial photo as well. So you could kind of see how the site was laid out. Again, this is the building in question that they're proposing for the daycare use. Now, with regard to the traffic management plan, just kind of going over that again. Overall, just to remind you on the site, there are 140 paved and grass parking spaces that would be available for the use. Pursuant to the city's code, with regard to the parking requirement, this use, based upon the 4,173 square feet, would require 10 parking spaces as required by our code. So there is ample parking for them to utilize for the use. It would not conflict, of course, because the house of worship would not be utilized at the same time as a daycare. Again, vehicles to enter from Northwest 47th Avenue and exit on Northwest 2nd Street. So as vehicles come in, they will come along here. This is 47th Avenue. They will come in to the entryway here, park here, and then they would walk in to drop the kids off. Parents would then come back to their car, drive here, and exit on Northwest 2nd Street. So that's what's part of the traffic management plan. And parents will park their vehicles and walk through their children, as just indicated. These are just some pictures kind of showing the building. This is from a view from Northwest 2nd Street. There's Northwest 2nd Street here and 47th here. So you can kind of see there is a fence that kind of runs along the exterior here. And then, again, this is where they would enter from 47th, park in here, and then go to 2nd Avenue to exit the site. So with regard to our overall analysis, we did find that the conditional use is generally consistent with the general plan. Opposed conditional use is compatible with the general character of the neighborhood. As indicated, the property has housed school use before and daycare uses. And the proposed conditional use should not adversely affect the overall general welfare of the community. A couple of other things, citizen comments. I do know that at the time that we kind of submitted this to the council, we had not received any comments. We did receive some comments today with some emails from several of the neighboring property owners objecting to the previous application, which was PM 230071. That's the application that came before you back in December. One of the emails received today from the city clerk's office said that residents in objection due to lack of information. I guess they felt they didn't have enough information, and so they were still in objection to the request that's before you now. And then with regard to the property, just to remind you there are no code violations that are currently on site. This is the copy of the analysis that was done by childcare licensing. And you can see that this is where that 73 number was derived from childcare licensing. So we recommend approval, but if you look at section 5B of the report, we did go back and kind of look at the previous application, which it recommended 40. So if you look at our recommendation, we would recommend approval with the 40 students and then having them come back at some point in the future where they can indicate to the neighborhood that they have the capacity to kind of deal with the issues there, that everything's working fine. And they can come back to the council and request, I guess, up to 73 in this instance, which is a maximum that they've been approved for. So happy to answer any questions. The applicant is present as well. Thank you. A little housekeeping first. City Attorney Ezraal, I received some emails. I opened them, read them, didn't reply to them. Should I make a Jennings disclosure? Yes, sir. Okay. So I'm going to make a Jennings disclosure. I did receive some emails. I reviewed them, did not reply to them. So anybody else want to make a Jennings disclosure? Yes. I too would like to make a Jennings disclosure. It will not impact or affect my vote. And I'll add that to mine. And I visited the property. I went on site after it was discussed the last time, particularly to look at the fencing that we discussed. And I've also talked to several neighbors in the area. Yes. I'd also like to make a Jennings disclosure, which I did speak to residents. I did respond to emails. I did visit the site as well. And none of that interaction will affect my vote. Okay. I'd also make the same Jennings disclosure. I did receive the emails, responded to the emails, and it will not affect my vote. Okay. I received emails, did not respond. I've visited the property in the past through my many years of living here, but it won't affect my vote. It won't affect my vote. Thank you. Okay. Very good. So before I open it up, I thought in the back up, when we were talking about the previous academy that was there, that academy was never in that building. Right? It was just on the campus. Right. And I thought that was kind of misleading or confusing. I think there was a use that was in another building on site of the school. But they didn't have 100 people in that house, the academy. I'm not sure they would have to answer that question. It's more about our memo and not the applicant. Yeah. I just found it unuseful. Maybe on the campus saying that there was academy there. But for this particular building, I didn't think it was relevant. I thought it was confusing. I thought it was confusing last time. I thought it was confusing this time. With that, Council Member Reinstein. Yeah. Mr. Homes, Director Homes, thank you for the presentation. Can you go back to the picture of Northwest 2nd Street that shows the prop? Yeah, right there. So, in looking at that, I have a few questions. We've actually, we've been talking a lot in, not today, but on other evenings about parking requirements. Right? If this is not used as a residential home, if it's used for this purpose, right, that they're asking, are they required to maintain a driveway on the Northwest 2nd side? If the entrance will be around the other side and they're not using this side that we're viewing, are they required to maintain a driveway at all? No. Okay. And because what I found interesting was that one of the things that you had talked about in your presentation, Director Homes, was that the cones were blocking the driveway, but you had also talked about them not parking on the swale was part of our prior discussion. So, the pictures that have been provided by the applicant show the blocking of the driveway, but no blocking of the swale. So, I was a little concerned with that because one of our whole conversations was that the problem of the speeding on Northwest 2nd Street, the potential traffic jams on Northwest 2nd Street, people pulling in onto the swale, so they may avoid the driveway, but they would still pull onto the swale, which would create some of the problems that we had talked about quite a bit the last time. So, the applicant's presentation of where they're going to put the cones didn't defeat the concerns, or didn't address the concerns that were raised the last time. So, now I'm interested in whether or not you can block off the entire, remove the driveway altogether, and, you know, put those other, you know, sometimes we see people block the edge of the swale, I don't even know if that's permitted, but with those, what are they, what are they called? Yeah, those little, I don't know, I don't permit it, but that would really prevent people from stopping on that swale at all, causing the traffic jams right in that area. So, I may have some more quiet, but I just wanted to first ask you those initial questions. Thanks. For now. Okay. Can you go to the licensing sheet that came up? Because that kind of was, because I looked up the state statute regarding, you know, a child care facility that does not hold a valid license on October 1st, 1992, and seeks regulatory approval to operate as a child care facility, must have a minimum of 35 square feet of usable floor space for each child, and a minimum of 45 square feet of a usable outdoor play area for each child, excluding children under one. So, is that basically what this calculation is? Yeah. From my understanding of what they've done, they've gone into the building, they've looked at the layout, proposed layout, the different rooms, the toddler room, or in the other rooms, and they've determined. So, like, if there's an office in there, or a conference room in there, that's not part of the usable space. I wasn't sure if the bathrooms were considered part of the usable space. I mean, when you say usable. Well, I'm just reading the state statute, but. Oh, the use of, in terms of the, yeah. Because to me, it's like, it's basically, and I've seen different square footage. I see 41, 73 square feet. I see 39, 26 square feet. It just seems like a ton of people in a kind of a small building. Would you like the. I have a motion. I would never like to say. I have a voice. Were you sworn in? Yes. Yes. Okay. Well, state your name, and you can tell us that you understand the proceedings, and then you can go on with your comment. Juana Cleximus. I understand, and would like to proceed. Your name and address? I moved on. Okay. We need it for the record. So you can give the address of the, of the, of the church. That's fine. Or the. Oh, okay. Juana Cleximus. And the address is 201 North Force 46th Avenue, Plantation, Florida, 33317. And you understand the rules of the proceedings? Yes. I understand the rules. Okay. Very good. Go ahead. In regards of the question that was asked earlier, the way DCF does it when they are calculating the capacity and the usage, they do not include conference rooms that the students won't be using, nor office areas. So they only calculated it based on the classrooms. Okay. Good. Thank you. I see that the ratios in the memo, that was based on 73, because they're all below the state standards. I thought, I don't know if it was in, well, it was in our backup, but I don't remember seeing it in the presentation. 16. Okay. Nine. 12. And of course the rules are different based on the age of the kid. You can only have so many toddlers in the room. Right, right, right. And that was neatly summarized in the support. So in the letters of support, Danny brought this up. I feel like it was probably the congregants that were writing the letters of support as opposed. I didn't see anybody that spoke with their concerns at the last time we talked about this as part of the letters of support, meaning that their concerns were not remediated or rectified. They still had the same concerns. Come on up. Greetings, Councilman, Mr. President, as well as Mr. Mayor and City Attorney. I would just like to. If you could state your name, address. My name is Anderson Claxmas. I am the associate pastor for Southeastern Conference, helping out Sinai SDA Church located at 201 Northwest 46th Avenue, Plantation, Florida. You have the senior pastor, Dr. Arbens-Pierre Antoine, and then the assistant pastor, Pastor JT St. Flair. All of us representing the same Southeastern Conference as well as. And then you understand the. Yes, I understand the proceeding. Go ahead. Just a couple of things that I would like to add in regards to the comment and how is it pertinent that we know about the school being there prior. The reason that that was brought up is because in the last meeting that we had in December 20th, it was brought up of a concern for traffic. Now, although I have moved out of Plantation a while, but considering I am a Broward boy myself, who used to spend many of his times in 640 Northwest 46th Avenue, right across from Jim Ward, who played a lot of ball in 2008. I realized that the traffic in 2008 and the traffic now were two different traffic, especially right now. But the reason why that's important is because in 2008, Sinai had both a daycare and a school with 100 students and was still a place of worship. But the traffic was less than now, which Sinai has not had a daycare since 2014, and it does not have a school for the last two years. So based on those concepts, we can conclude, or even if we can't conclude, there's no real correlation between the school and the traffic that is caused. The reason that it was brought up was not so we can confuse people with the quantity of people that the school can hold, but it was simply to show that when we did have a school, there was less traffic than currently when we don't have any school. In regards to the picture that was shown, in regards to the fencing and blockage, we did put cones around, but as we went out to speak to some of the neighbors, they informed us they don't like the cones. The cones are an eyesore and they don't like it. So as a result, we are trying to find other alternatives, possibly doing the chain concept where you put two pillars and running a chain around. We have spoken it over with our church members as well as our executive members to kind of figure out a conclusion. One of the conclusions that we found out to encourage people not to park there is not only having everything in campus, but also having when you enroll your child for you not only to have to drop them off. But as you are enrolling the child in UNICA, there will be a clause in the contract that informs you that if you park there, you will be subjected to a fine or there will be some kind of consequences to kind of discourage. So you've implemented a parking policy with your congregation? Yes. I believe I read this. You'll confirm this for me. You have your parking agreement with Plantation Baptist across the street. So last time when we were here in December, we were working that out with First Baptist as well, Jim Ward. We were unsuccessful in being able to come to terms with First Baptist and Jim Ward for a couple of reasons. However, they did inform us that if we want to use their parking and we have a special event, we would have to rent out their facility to get access to their parkings. Now, in order for us to utilize what we have, because although we don't have much, but it is functionable. What we have implemented is along with taking care of the buses that was brought up in December 20th, we have taken care of any other vehicles that are there that's not really useful. By God's grace, we're able to actually fix some of the buses with some of the money that we got from the buses that we got rid of. And now we currently have four charter buses that sits around 25 people. We encourage people to use the charter buses, which limits the, which decreases the parking issue. We didn't use the charter buses. So the church, the church facility, because the concern for parking was from our understanding was not necessarily for Unica. When we went out and spoke to some of our neighbors, the concern that they had was on Saturdays and big events, the church would overflow into their property. Exactly. So one of the ways that we tried to remedy the situation once we sat down with First Baptist and Jim Ward and we realized that that was impossible, mainly because Jim Ward is a public park and they have a lot of events that happens on weekends. So one of the way we remedy it, we encourage not only carpooling, but with the charter buses that does the pickup. Oh, so you pick them up at a. Yes, you pick them up at their location. You bring them in. Have you implemented that yet? We have been implemented. And has it been effective? From what we've heard, it has gotten better. We we don't know everything, but we have implemented that. And so far it's been able to manage the parking a little bit better. In addition, we used to have two services back to back, which would be a little bit of a problem because sometimes you have family. The youth will come to second service and then the adults will come to first service. What we have done is not only have we encouraged our members to carpool, but because sometimes you might have three or four cars coming from the same household. We have encouraged to have two service simultaneously, which has drastically dropped our numbers because a lot of our people, a lot of our youth are like 18, 19. They have the freedom to drive and they like driving. It's not necessarily a great thing because I'm a little bit older. So I've learned sometimes it's best for you to just carpool. We have been encouraging them and by God's grace, they have been participating a lot. Another point that was brought up that was concerning to the community was the fact that that if we're being honest, one of the things that will communicate it to me was that they did not feel like our parking attendants were educated enough to fill the role of the of the parking attendant role or securities. Your congregation didn't feel like. No, no, no. The neighborhood. The neighborhood. So. So what we did to facilitate that, we started a program in which we got all of our parking attendants and security officers trained to be certified by the state of Florida. So all of them are currently have their D license to ensure that the program went according to the standard that was communicated to us. I personally went through the program and I actually have my license here with the certification and everything. So currently our staff are not only equipped to handle traffic situations, they're trained to know how to delegate traffic situations. And that has greatly helped and aid in our ability to manage the traffic situation a little bit better. In addition, in regards to some of the other concerns, concerns that we had, we did consider greatly the number of 100. The 100 was a little bit big. We we really want to be able to help out the community. So sometimes our eagerness does get the best of us. We understand that. So we reached out to DCF. She came out. She assessed the room room by room, took the measurements. And based on that, she gave us a recommendation of what she thinks would be better. However, it was a little bit limited because she's like, we may be able to take more. But the problem is we would have to fix the rooms, but we can't fix the room without first getting through here, because then that would give the illusion of us starting. When we have not yet received the permission to start. Right. So she informed us of this after speaking to her. We told her what would be a reasonable amount. She told us 73. So therefore, we went based on her estimation per classroom. The before plan. Yes. So she personally came in, measured the rooms and then made a decision per room. So there's that. In addition, there. The which one? Oh, in addition, we have also heard the complaints about the neuro. We are working adamantly on it as much as possible. One of the things that has hinder us and working on this is because we had a couple of fines that we are a couple of things for us to handle prior. And considering that majority of our congregations are not financially blessed, it added a little hindrance, but we did find a company for us to be able to manage the noise because one of the things that was causing a lot of the noise to leak was the fact that our windows are sliding screen windows on both sides are very old. This church has been around for a while. So we're able to find a company. We got an estimate. We got the plan. We got the contract. But the problem that is occurring is that it's going to cost around $123,000. We can pray on $123,000, but I can't say we can move on with that endeavor specifically because we recently had a project in regards to renovating the church because I do understand what it's like to have pride in your city. And it's frustrating when you have pride in your city, but yet your neighbor doesn't have pride in it. Well, I mean, I think that's where my concern is, is that there's been a lot of problems with your neighbors. Understand. And nobody, you know, the pictures that were sent to me in the email today, it looks like you added some landscaping compared to the pictures that they sent. But, you know, the cars were parked on the front lawn, on the swale, and in the pictures that were sent to me in the email. Okay. But, Council Member Andrea. Thank you, President Fatchin. I want to thank you all because I think that you really heard a lot of the feedback that we gave last time. And then you took appropriate action steps to mitigate those concerns that we had. So I appreciate that. As I stated earlier, I spoke to several neighbors in the area, and I don't want us to conflict the two. I think the concern is not with the daycare. The concern is with the service on Saturdays. And I believe, I can't, obviously I don't have the facts right now to back this up, but I believe wholeheartedly that the daycare is not going to produce as much traffic and noise as the service on Saturday. So I want to make sure that we're keeping those two things separate because you're already running your services, and that is not what we're discussing and voting on tonight. Can you tell me how many people you have in your congregation and how many people generally attend service? We have quite a bit. So the reason why we had to have two services is because there is an amount of quality that's supposed to be inside. So what we were having is we would have certain people, we would have too much people, so we'd have to have two services. But we were able to use the youth chapel that is now renovated and is up to code as well as the cafeteria to kind of facilitate that a little bit more so that way it can be in code for fire. Because what you don't want to do is make a bad situation worse. So, but I can't really give you an accurate number simply because the beautiful thing about being Sinai in plantation for SDA church, you're pretty well known. So, because we minister to a lot more people online than we do physically. We try our best to regulate the physical presence, but you're looking at a church who has programs that assist people far and wide. And just on subscription on YouTube people who are trying to encourage the church, you have roughly around 50,000 subscribers, which is not much for like, you know, trendy people. But for church, that's a lot for church. Would you agree though with that statement that you have more traffic, there's a larger crowd of people coming in and out for your Saturday service than you would have for the 73 parents participating in the daycare who would be coming in and out at a staggered rate? Definitely. Okay. Simply because even with that case, even with 73 parents, you have to understand one parent might have four children. So, it's not 73 cars unless each child is driving their own individual vehicle. If that's the case, then that church is really blessed. But typically, when you have a child care, you will have a parent, let's just say the parent is blessed with twins. The parents will drop off their twins and now that's two people for one vehicle. And because the timing is a little bit different, it makes it a little bit more manageable. But like you said, what we've observed and what we've heard is it's not that the community has a problem with the daycare per se. It's just, and I'm saddened to say this, the community is hurt because it has a couple of years, not even a couple of years because we've been in the community for a good amount of time. It's hurt because they're frustrated because they haven't felt hurt. So, that's why for the last couple of months, and we could have had the ability for us to try and bring it back immediately in January. But when we sat down and we discussed it, we figured what would be best is for us to address the issue of the community. So, even with the windows, right now we can't afford windows, but right now we're more mindful at the sound we let out. So, simply little things to try to see if we can better it. I know one of the comments was the church might need some cleanup. So, we had to go and try to clean up the trees as much as we can. We got one of our fellow members who does power washing to come and power wash the sidewalks and do some detailing. So, I understand that we're not where we want to be right now. Because I would love to tell you we have a beautiful church where the sound doesn't leak out. I would love to tell you that everything is going to be perfect. But we are truly trying because at the end of the day, we truly believe that this daycare would benefit the community. In regards to the letters that were brought up, the letters were not just, well, the petition. Because there's two things. There's a petition of a list of names, which is not just a collection of just plantation people. But rather, it's a petition of the locals. So, for example, where we are at, we're very close to Lottery Hill. So, it's not reasonable to think just because you're in plantation, but you're walking distance from Lottery Hill once you pass Sunrise. For you to think that Sunrise or Lottery Hill people won't bring their kids to the daycare. So, that petition is a list of people who have heard about the idea of possibly doing the daycare. And then they wanted to show their support. For example, we've had people who actually passed by and dropped off toys. So, it's the desire for the letters. The letters are people in plantation who we've explained the situation. And we tell them, hey, listen, we know you live in plantation. Because one of the things that I realized is, although we are still building rapport with immediate neighbors, as a church, you should be an asset to the community and not a liability. So, while you're doing that, you still have to mingle with the community. You still have to conversate with people. You still got to figure out the community's need to assist where you can assist. Let me get Councilmember Ryanstein to make some inquiries. Thank you. So, I want to follow up. And I appreciate the comments by my colleagues. And Councilmember Andrea reminded me regarding the services on Saturday. When we talk about this entrance on Northwest 2nd and the driveway. So, we were primarily talking about it not being used for an entrance for the after school program. But is there parking being used there for the Saturday service? Which area are you talking about? Right here. That we're looking at. We're pointing at the driveway. Yes. Yes. So, primarily, yes. But we have spoken to some of our neighbors and they have told us that that is a concern for them. The reason why we believed it was doable is because it's a parking space. But we have heard that they're not a fan of that simply because it is an eyesore. So, what we've been doing is we've been encouraging some of our older saints who are not as mobile to utilize more of the parking spaces that are around the cafeteria section. Because although they are handicap accessible. We keep in mind that we keep spaces. But majority of our older saints kind of need the help. Either wheelchair wise or crutches wise. So, we have them parked there. And occasionally, what we'll do, if we overflow, we'll use that part which is by the cafeteria. Just to keep you focused for a second on the one driveway that we're talking about for the house. Yes. Right? Is it your intention to allow your parishioners, allow your members to park in that driveway on Saturday services? No. It is not my intention. Okay. But they have been up until right. They are currently. Is that correct? They were. We spoke to our neighbors because one of the things that... Please no comments from the chamber. You'll have an opportunity to speak if you'd like to. One of the things that was encouraged to us by the council was for us to get to know our neighbors. So, one of the things that we did was we spoke to our neighbors. Now, given some of the times when you knock, you don't always get an open door. But we're praying on it. Because we understand that that is a concern. What we wanted to do ultimately is for us to utilize two metal posts and run a chain there to lock that up. No, I understand that you're giving some suggestions of what you may do going forward. All of my question was regarding since the last time that you were before us, right? Has that driveway been used for your members or parishioners to attend Saturday services? I think the answer is yes. Yes. Okay. Thank you. But can I just clarify something? Sure. The question that you asked was do we have the intention to use it? To continue? Yes. We do not have the intention to continue it. For example, if you brought up because once you put the chain, then the chain... Understood. Well, thank you. I appreciate the clarification. And I will commend you on the cleanup. When I drove by, there's no question that there's been a tremendous amount of cleanup. So, you know, there's the landscaping, the removal of the buses, and the removal of the cars that seem to have been, you know, growing legs there into the ground. So, I commend you on the cleanup that you've done. Oh, glory to God. We're thankful. Okay. I don't see any other comments from the dais. Let's do a motion and then we'll take comments from the chamber. Can I just say one last thing? Yes. One of the concerns that we got last time was not necessarily in regards to 2nd Street or 47th Avenue. It was mainly to 46th Street. And upon taking some time and watching the traffic in 46th Street, the concern is not necessarily traffic. It's... You have some individuals who accelerate in that area very greatly. One of the things that our neighbors informed us, which was saddened... We were saddened by it and we confirmed it, was months prior there was an incident that confiscated the life of a young individual at that location. We've even been able to receive encouragement at the house that normally does it. But we're not going to point fingers. We're just going to pray for them at this point. But I think... I think having a facility with children there because... Well, the issue is 46th Avenue. There's a church between us and 46th Avenue. Which means... By the time a child goes out of our primary fence in the back, goes through the secondary fence of the church, go through the lobby of the church, go to the other side for them to make it to the 46th Avenue. That should be concerning because that's either a very, very smart child or none of the things that we've done so far was preventative. That's one of the reasons we're taking these steps. But the concerning factor that we have in hopes that you guys might be able to assist us if this is able to go through by God's grace. Is there a way to put something there to kind of deter either like a slow down sign or children playing around? Because I've seen the speed and the speeds tend to touch top. We are definitely aware of that. Okay. We have some things in process that hopefully we'll be implementing in the more near future than the far future. Okay. That was all I wanted to say. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. It's definitely a huge problem. We're aware of it. I'm sorry? I think that was a good comment. Yes, absolutely. So, can we have a motion and then we'll take public comment? Motion to approve? With staff comments? Yeah, I'm always the one who says it, right? Pending the staff comments. Which includes the 40 and the initial 40 enrollment, right? Yeah, that was a staff comment. Okay. Yes, I agree with that. Do we have a second? Second. Okay. So, we're going to open it up to public comment. Ms. Benson? With a B. Oh my gosh. I'm sorry. I said, why does my name have to start with a B? Well, it's not. You know what? This was random. I had nothing to do with alphabet. That's okay. I don't mind going to get all the heebie-jeebies out. All right. Good evening. My name is Natalie Benson and I reside at 191 Northwest 46th Avenue. And you were sworn in? Yes, I was. Okay. And you understand the proceedings? Yes, I do. Okay, go ahead. Okay. So, since it's the first time I'm here, I wasn't here at the December because I am a healthcare worker. I do work out of my home full time. So, with that said, super busy, open enrollment. Oh my gosh. Anyway, so I work on that street where we're looking at 46th Avenue. That's my window from my office. Even though my house is huge, split plan, no problem. Second street, I want to give thanks to the city for their police responses, fire responses, because on my corner, not only have I am an active citizen, you come by and I offer you water because I see you walking in the heat to the church on Saturday and Sunday. So, I live on that corner lock. I have the best of both worlds. I have two churches and everything else on there. But what I don't appreciate is you're saying you spoke to the neighbors. If I am at home five days a week and I don't get a knock on my door, only a notice from the city that this is happening, then who is for you visiting? I did not receive any type of communication from my parishioners who I support. I know personally some of those youth because those youth come into my garage to learn about how to fix their cars. But what's not happening is during the week when I have people on the swale blocking me from leaving my driveway, not knocking on my door. Now they do, where I say, hey, look, I have many a time woken up, either on a Saturday or Sunday or even during the week while they're doing their rehearsal, to say, look, in an event of emergency, you can't park on my swale or on my driveway. If I have something, I can't get out of my own house. I've come home overnight to find people parked in my driveway and I can't get back into my home after working 12 hours overnight to find out they're from the church. It doesn't matter. What it is is we're trying to work together, right? Okay, so I don't get anybody. And then you say there's delicensed people with securities and stuff. Well, where are they? They're not monitoring the traffic on the weekends. I have pictures. I even spoke to some of the sheriffs. I go across the street and, hey, guys, do me a favor. It gets like this. They're not leaving the spaces for my officers to come by and do their speech checks or prevent those crimes or prevent those incidents. Now, great, we're going to do this for the community. But when you're talking about noise and windows, you did a whole renovation project and you didn't do your windows? I mean, you're not considerate of that. I understand everything has a budget. Don't get me wrong. And we multiply, right, because we're all communities of the city. So no dropping off for children under the age of five. I had four children all in those ages. And I would not just drive through and drop my five-year-old by. I got to go in daycare. Go that route to the left. No, that wouldn't happen. The parent has to park their car, get out and walk that child in. So it is a concern. I want to thank you for my time. I don't mind the improvements, but I do know this living here in plantation. You've always done your due diligence and done everything very thorough. I've never had to speak in front of you all before. So, oh, my gosh, this was great. But at the same time, you have to think about the balances. So in that respect, we can come to a resolution, but not like this. Not half and half because there's a lot of shady things going on with pictures and all of a sudden, ooh, city's coming, everybody clean up. What do you do when you go to the doctor's office? You brush your teeth, you make sure everything, then the doctor sees and you're like, I'm fine, doc. I just got a little injury right here. You draw her. So I think that truth should be told and transparency. This isn't something that needs to be. And sorry I couldn't be here last time. I was off today. Well, thank you very much. Thank you for coming. Okay. Do I stay here now? What do I do? Nope, you're good. Okay. Anna Marie. I can't read your last name. There you are. Sorry. My name is Anna Marie Rosensky and I live at 4801 Northwest First Court. When I was eight years old, which is a long time ago, I lived at 4811 Northwest First Court. So I've been in this neighborhood over 60 years. And I know the church because my sister went to kindergarten there for a short time, but that was when it was a walk-up church and a neighborhood school. People didn't drop their kids off then. They just walked. But anyway, I want to thank Mr. Reinstein for calling me today because I don't live within the 300 feet around. I never get noticed about this. But my house is on 48th Avenue and First Court, which is a cut through because when people don't want to wait for the light at 46th, they very angrily ride down First Court, come out 48th, and go west on Broward or they dash out to sunrise. So the traffic there since they opened up that exit from the turnpike has been crazy and that it's increased so much. And that's one of the reasons why we're all concerned about the increased traffic of anything that goes in there. But, you know, and I understand you're not required to let the rest of us in the neighborhood know, but there are a lot of people in the neighborhood that didn't know about it. And they still don't know about it. And they would not be happy. Y'all have looked at the front of the building? Have you looked at the back of the building where all the parking is and see where the fence is? And it needs landscaping horribly. It just is, to me, an eyesore for the neighborhood that people that live along there. And then all the cars that park and, you know, I walk to the community center and I see the cars there. So I just think that the dropping off and the picking up of the children is going to interfere with all the people that drive through when they're going to work. And I just hope that you consider more of the people in the neighborhood and not just, you know, what's going on now here because not everybody knows about it. And thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you for coming in. Jamie Rojas. How are you guys doing, Councilman, Mayor? Jamie Rojas, 4811 Northwest First Court. I have a couple of... You were sworn in? Yes. And you understand the proceedings? Yes, sir. Very good. Go ahead. I think there's a couple of different concerns. Obviously, it's the traffic pattern, how it's going to be affected by the daycare, especially in the morning. I understand that not everybody's going to be dropped off at the exact same time, but you're going to have a block where basically the majority of the parents are dropping off for children. Our concern is not necessarily... I mean, obviously, those two street cut throughs, 46th and 48th, there's a lot of traffic going already through that. But even in the side roads, there's a lot of cutting that goes along to avoid a lot of that traffic. And Second Street, for instance, like if you're trying to channel all that traffic through that, I do see that that is going to physically affect the people that are living around that area because it's going to be much more difficult for them to get out. You're already seeing the effects of the large congregation already in that property. And I think that's one of the biggest issues that they have is that, yes, the... And just to say that the childcare is important. And I understand it's going to be a really good thing if you can have it there. But again, it impacts all of those other people there. And then there's a little bit of a mix up because that property, we're treating it all as one commercial property. But that specific house, which was like supposed to be like the house for the pastor or whoever, like that's... It's actually... I mean, from what I just saw, it was zoned to be like different. So you have this like a convolution of Unica and then the church. And then, yes, we've had a lot of more people there before. But, you know, at the same time, we're going to be having more people or, you know, because we had a hundred people in the whole area. It doesn't necessarily mean that you can have a hundred people in that little...in the house. I mean, you have 4,000 square feet. I understand that they've gone through the process through DCF, but it still always seems like a lot of people. It still always seems like it's like it's a house, like it's a house that you're converting into a daycare. And typically, we have that anywhere in the neighborhood. Your numbers are usually limited. So that's like the big thing that I have with that. I hope that you guys, at least last time that we talked about this, we talked about the number of people. You guys gave a consideration for 40 people. I think it would be a good idea to hopefully start out with that and see what the impact is for the neighborhood. I don't want to say like, no, because it's like, you know, but like I said, if history, like if the history that we have with the congregation reflects what's going to happen in the future, I do think that we're going to have more problems with the traffic and more issues with the congregation. Just for clarity, the motion is for them to start with 40 students. Yeah, like I said, it's hope. And then hopefully they can approve. Mayor Sortil? A couple quick questions for the applicant, if you don't mind, related to them, following up based on comments. What hours are you looking at doing? Do you agree that this is a house? And explain your drop off procedure. And then I'll talk about my drop off procedure when I take my grandkids to school. I don't want to compare and contrast. So first off, hours, if you please. What hours will people be dropping off? Monday through Friday from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. I mean, I'm sorry, Monday through Thursday, actually. So from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. But on Fridays from 6 a.m. in the morning until 4 p.m. But for morning, when does class start? 6 to 8? 6 to 9? From 6 a.m. Parents will be allowed to come in. The center will be open for them to drop off. Yes. And when do you get rolling? 8 o'clock or 9 o'clock? Pardon me? When will you actually? Yes. It's a rolling admission for after school. Okay. So you're not going to have a whole mess at once or two? No, we're not expecting everyone at once, for one. And number two, remember, the after-schoolers will not stay on site. So the goal is the parents will drop them off around 7.30, we'll pick them up, drop them off at their schools, and they'll be back until way later on in the afternoon, and then the parents will pick them up from there. Yeah, okay. Now, my point being that by 8 a.m., most many of your students are going to be there already. 8, 8, 30, 9? Possibly, yes. Because DPK cutoff time is around 9 o'clock. Yeah, that's what I'm asking. Cutoff time is my question. So by 9 a.m., your traffic is pretty well done. Yes, by 9, we're not expecting. Traffic of the 40 we're looking at right now. Yes. Okay, and so it is a house that, it was characterized as a house that I didn't, that didn't register with me. This is a former house that's been converted. Do you agree with that characterization? Well, it was used as a house by then, but I know it might still seem as a house in the eyes of the people. However, just like the serpent showed, it has been upgraded drastically. Sure. I'm just asking curiously. I'm not, I don't know. That's okay. And number one, describe the drop-off because you describe what your drop-off procedure is. You go first. Well, the drop-off procedure. I pull up with my kid. What happens? You bring up your kid? Pretend. Okay. I drive up. I'm dropping my kid. What happens? I'm pushing up the door. Okay. No. No, that is not the plan at all. And that's one of the reasons why, at first, we considered to have a runabout. So the parents, like a teacher, would escort the kids. But we said it's even better nowadays instead of the parents who just drop off the kids for them to actually walk them in to sign them in. Okay. So the plan is, upon coming, so you enter 47th Avenue. You would park your car, and then you would escort your student inside of the childcare and sign in. And you would not exit 47th Avenue, but rather 2nd Street. And the way the center is located, we have many different routes that link to it. I do not expect all my parents to either exit 2nd Street and go directly to 46th Avenue. Because remember, we're located at a corner, so they do have the options to either go on 46th Avenue, 47th, Broward. So they do have a lot of different options. But if you're going west, you might go 48th. Yeah. Or that too. Right, right, boom, boom. Yes, because it's located at a corner, and I think that's really great, since we don't have... Yeah, yeah. Okay. Just for clarification, at my kids' school, we pull up. We have to turn the motor off. A staffer comes up, takes our children, unbuckles them, and walks them in. So we don't get out of the car. The car sits there, and they're walked in responsibly by everybody. So there never is a push the kid out of the car, and they're gone. No, never. That is not the goal. And that's something we could consider too. Right. Either you walk them in, or you guys come and get them. Yes, definitely. Yeah. Okay. I was going to ask some questions. I'll come back to it, but Key McCoy. Hi. Hi. Key McCoy, 170 on Northwest 47th Avenue. And you've been sworn in? Yes. And you understand the proceedings? Yes. Go ahead. So I live in City of Plantation for 25 years in this house, and I raised two kids there, and I sent my kids to the church plantation, First Community, First Plantation Church, right next to this church. First Baptist. Yeah, First Baptist Church. And when they were little. Come a little closer to the mic. When they were little. And I'm really, I understand the importance of childcare. You know, when the parents need childcare. But in this case, the church is in the middle of the neighborhood. And it's too close. And the traffic pattern and noise level with the, you know, increase. At this time, it's already high. And having childcare in that location will worsen. You know, that's my concern. And also, having the childcare from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m., that's like, I work at night. And then when I, you know, having, I don't understand, I understand that there's some issue with the windows in the childcare to be repaired. Sanctuary, I believe, right? Also childcare, too, or something? No. Come on up. Okay. Just clarifying. The window concept is in regards to the sanctuary, in regards to their noise. The childcare is up to code and everything. And we've made sure. Those have new windows? Yes. They have new windows that does not allow the sound to leak out. So they're like impact windows? Yes. To the best of our abilities. Okay. I understand. I understand. Thank you for the clarification. My concern is for the aftercare kids. They will be playing outside. They're not going to be, you know, they're not going to be inside, you know, even 10 children. But at this time it's 10 children. Maybe they're going to be later, they're going to increase more children, you know, in the future. Do you get a lot of sound from Jim Ward, from the basketball courts and the playground? I don't, it's, my house is not like, I don't hear that from there. Okay. But, you know, my concern is for the future. Okay. No, I understand. That's, I think that's what we're all, I think that's what all our concerns are about. Also, they have on, like regularly they have food trucks, comes through that church and distribute food for the needy. It's a good thing. Yeah. But having childcare so close to the food distribution center, it's a little bit safety concern. I guess a follow-up question to that is, is the food distribution going to happen while the daycare is in operation? My name is Jean-Tenis St. Fleur. And I did, yes, swear in. And you understand. Yes, I do understand the procedure. Great. I would like to interject, if I may, on the window that I think two or three speakers prior to that. So that was, again, the window we're speaking about is for the church. Yes. That's the sound. And the construction that Pastor Klessemis addressed, basically the construction that we had was the cafeteria. That was the construction for the cafeteria. And the youth church. Those two are the construction that we did. So it wasn't that we did half a job or somewhat. No. So those were the two things that we did half constructed. So we didn't skip one. And I think those are separate issues. Correct, correct. What you said is that the building that's going to be the daycare, those windows have been replaced. Yes. They're in packs. So they should contain the noise. Now, when the kids are outside, there might be some noise. Yeah. But I don't know if that's going to be crazy. And I believe for the daycare, there's been a specific time for outside. So the kids won't be outside the whole time. Right. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I believe it was two speakers prior to that that had a concern about that. The second thing I believe that she just addressed that I wanted to also touch base on is that the food truck, the pantry, it's on Mondays at 5 o'clock. Just one day of the whole week where they bring in the food. And it's not in the same location as the daycare. So there's a different queue for it. Correct, correct. So it would be at the church where they bring in, they come in and they drop off the boxes. The boxes come in and then we have the food pantry. And this is around 5 o'clock in the evening on Mondays. Okay. Okay. Let me, can I make some more, get some more comments in here? I want to try to get through all the public comment. Janice Kloman. Four hours of sitting on a hard bench. My butt's gone to sleep. I don't walk this bad. The dirty secret up here is these seats are not comfortable. Oh, no, no. Well, my butt's gone to sleep too. I think the previous mayor didn't like us. All right. My name is Janice Kloman. I live at 4620 Northwest Second Street, Plantation, Florida. I can say I'm the oldest person that has lived here, I think. I've lived here since 1958 in the same house across the street from the church. It used to be Parkway Christian Church. And the house was built for Mr. Berry and his four kids. So that's what it was for. Yep. The traffic is terrible. I mean, it's just nonstop. Like everybody says, they're cutting through back here. They come out. But is that on service days? Like when they're having their services? It's every day of the week now the traffic has gotten so bad. But is it being generated from the church? Well, that's Monday the food day. Right. Now, Monday the food day. See, I live directly across the street from the church. My living room faces the church. Right. The house is like on to the left, I think. Now, when they say where they're going to drop all the kids off, all the people drive through that gate and come out the front gate and go around the front of the church and get the food. So they're not getting out of the car walking up. So where they're letting the kids off is where the people. Well, there's no kids there yet. No. But it's the same place. Right. On Mondays. And the noise that comes out of that church. We've already gone through all of that. So I wrote so much stuff down, I can't remember. And like Natalie said, I live next door to her. So, you know, we go through the same thing. Now, they say they're going to put the cones out there. When they put the cones out there, they come park in my yard because I live straight across the street. So I had to take those reflectors and put them all in my yard. I put some stones out, but the city came by and gave me a citation. If I didn't move them, they're going to charge me $500 a day. So I had to go with Steve. So I bought this little reflectors and put up there all around my yard everywhere. So they can't park in there anymore. You tell them nervous? No. And. You're doing fine. Don't be nervous. No, no. No, no. And 6 AM is very early because when, if they bring them back through 47th and they park there, drop their kids off and come out this way on 2nd Street. There's a gate there, and it goes, I can't make the noise, it's like this clanging, which you can get, that's my husband, which echoes through my house. And my bedroom, with my TV on in my back bedroom, I can hear it. And so that'll be 43 times they'll hear it at 6 a.m. in the morning. And then in the afternoon, you know, because on Mondays, you know, food service, you can hear them, you know, and they all, my time's up right now. I'll give you a few more seconds. Okay. Some say, all right. See, I can't, I try to sell my house because of church, I can't, there's so much going on over there. And the last thing I'll say, would any of you people like to live across the street from this church? Because I'll gladly sell you my house. Because I can't sell it. You have a buyer. Do it? All right. Council Member Reynstein had a question for you. Ms. Coleman, thank you very much. And I remember you actually making a similar comment back in December about wanting to sell your house and not being able to sell your house. So you're consistent. When people are parking on your lawn or parking in your driveway, is that on Saturday or is that during the weekday? They had a funeral on Friday. Hush, hush. You're up next. They had a funeral this past Friday. See, now they have the gates open because you can hear the, because all I can see is here that clang, clang, clanging. And they're parking. Now they have a guy who stands out there. He makes sure they do not park in their grass. They're swell. On their grass. Yeah. But I'll be damned if they don't park in my yard. And I went out there before. I've been cussed out. I've been threatened. So what I do now, I turn the sprinklers on. Ms. Coleman, my question regarding when they're parking on your driveway. Any day of the week. The reason why I ask that is to see if we can distinguish between the desire to open up a child care and the child care hours versus using the same property on Saturday for parking there or for other days. Is there a difference with how it affects the residents in the area? It depends on any day of the week. What's going on? Oh, that's what I said. Usually Saturday is their big day. Sunday is usually a funeral. But this past Friday they had a funeral. And Monday is food day. Tuesday they get some leftover. On Wednesday they have choir practice or something like that. And Friday night is a big night. But it's like every day of the week there's something going on over there. And somebody is always parking somewhere. Thank you. Usually in my yard. Thank you very much. Thank you. Mr. Coleman. Nice for you two citizens. My name is Dave Coleman. I live 4620 Northwest 2nd Street. That's my wife, my nervous wife, and I'm a nervous husband. But I would just like to say that these gentlemen, they're really trying hard over there. And they're very nice people. But we've just been so frustrated. Like she just told you, we live right in front of the church courtyard. And it can get really loud in there. But I'm not going to go over what everybody else said. They said it pretty much perfectly. And I have something to say. I forget. Just, yeah, we've got issues with them. But they're great people. But they're trying. And we're going to work it out, I guess. Well, I think that's what we're trying to do. And I forgot to ask. You were sworn in. Oh, I know what I was going to say. Excuse me. I can't say positive on the child care. I think it would just add to the problems that we've been going through all these years. I think there's a lack of trust happening right now. That's what the problem is. I forgot to ask. You were sworn in? Yeah. And you understand the proceedings? Yes. Very good. Anything else? No. I'm done now. I appreciate your comments. Yep. Thank you. Mr. Haynes? My name is George Haynes. I live at 140 Northwest 46 Terrace, two doors down from her and Janice. It's not, I'm not going to complain. Hold on. You've been sworn in? Yes. And you understand the proceedings? Yes. All right. Very good. I'm not going to complain about the traffic during the week, okay? I'm more concerned about the children. We know that educators, that's a house, okay? I live in a home that's 2,200 square feet. That house is smaller than my house, okay? I don't know where to get your notes from, but if you look on Zillow, that house is smaller than my house, okay? And you're going to put 60 kids in there, start off at 40? Come on. And now we're going to get into the 6 a.m. thing. I'm going to work at 6 a.m. So I leave my house at 5.15 in the morning. I've been up since 4 o'clock this morning, okay? We'll pass my bedtime by three hours, and I'm here, okay? So I'm more concerned about the children, and you know how the kids are. They're going to run right out. I know, and I went by there today. The buses are gone. The house looks nice and pretty, but it's still a house. Why don't they think about putting the daycare in the school, the big place, not the little house, okay? So remember, they're going to come off the tree and come back around, and when they come out, they're going to go right down our block. I live on 46 Terrace, so when they come out of that school, guess what they're going to see? Our homes. Any times we come home and we can't get to our house, especially on the weekends, I come home on Saturdays with my boat. I can't even make a left turn down my block because they're all blocked. They blocked my street. So I have to go down two blocks and come a different direction to my house. That's not right. Okay, so we're not going to get into that, but I want to know about the kids. I'm more concerned about the children and how many adults are going to be there and how many kids per. My wife's a Broward County teacher at Plantation Park Elementary. Okay, she has 22 kids, one teacher, okay? She hasn't changed diapers. She's fourth grade. So just imagine these children who need to be changed diapers. How many are going to be there? Well, that is addressing the backup and the ratios that they're showing for the ages of the kids, they're actually under the state maximum ratios. And if we approve this with the 40, then they're going to be even lower than, because I think those ratios was for, was it 73, Danny, that they, you know, for what they were requesting, but the 40, they'll be under that threshold. I just don't understand why they want to do it in this small house. They have a big school on the other side where they spend a lot of money to do. And the noise, well, not again, go into that area. The noise is terrible. That's why I spent $25,000 on windows and doors in my house, so I don't hear what goes on over there. I understand. Okay. Mr. Holmes, can you, can you address like how the square footage was, came about? We get that from the survey. Thank you, counsel. Thank you. Please, please help the people around the neighborhood. This has been an ongoing thing for a long time. And the churches on Saturday, forget it. Mr. Haynes, can I ask Mr. Haynes a question? Mr. Haynes. Was that, I think I passed by you today. Was that a white truck were you pulling into your neighborhood when I was driving, when I was walking around the neighborhood? That's mine. Thank you. Okay, so you see where we live, okay, how close everybody is? And I have pictures of my phone where on a Saturday, they park on Janice's Swale. They park all down second. And they tell me those codes. I just wanted to see if that was used. They used to have no parking signs there. They took those down years ago. Because on Tuesdays, we go to the board and we talk to them about it. They put all that in. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. We generally take that from the survey, and I do have a copy of the survey here, which shows 4,173 square feet. Okay. I believe you. I just wanted to say it's not a made-up number. Right, no. It's not arbitrary. It's coming from something official. Correct. Okay. Michelle Rosinski. Hi. Hello. My name is Michelle Rosinski. I live at 4811 Northwest First Court. And I was sworn in, and I understand the proceedings. Great. So I have a similar story to all the other residents that have been here. But as I feel like in my neighborhood, it's a much larger area than that was notified. I'm probably going to say some of the points that have been said before. But because those people don't know about this, I feel like it's just another voice for you guys to hear, a concern. I don't live immediately right next to the area. I don't live in with a 300 square feet of where the notification area was. But I live in that neighborhood. I live in Park East. I go to the Jim Ward Center all the time. I pass by this church. I appreciate that they've done the improvements that they've done. But I still have a problem with the child care center wanting to come and be part of there. So this primarily is a residential area. The original building that has been there, that was renovated, was a single-family residence. The driveway, the streets, the sidewalks, the general area were not designed as a business area. This was not planned to accommodate more traffic during the week than a residential area normally would. Now it's changing from a weekend church and service and Wednesday nights when the traffic comes. It will now also be during the morning time when we are all going to work. So essentially, it will turn this neighborhood into a business area and during peak traffic times and congestion times, early in the morning when people go to work. At a place close to an intersection where we have only one turn to go left and go east on Barrett Boulevard, this is going to add to that congestion. I fear for the safety of the residents, for people walking around that area. Obviously, we have traffic issues and speeding issues and this is not going to benefit that. This is going to add to the more frustration that we all have. On a personal, more neighborly-minded note, I'm not looking forward to this affecting my property value because as we've seen in the past, there have been a lot of issues with them keeping up the property nice. I appreciate that they've cleaned up the buses, but it's still an eyesore back there. With all this activity and the place of business, there will be more traffic and more trash. I thank you to the Councilmember Louis Reinstein for emailing me today about this agenda because even though I've subscribed to the Plantation City agenda, it's not one of those things that you can easily see. It's number 21 on the list of a bunch of things and I wouldn't have realized that this was coming up today except that he notified me and I really appreciated that because, like I said, not everybody is notified about this. The 300 square foot notice, I know that that's probably some kind of regulation. I don't feel like it's adequate. I've seen also earlier when we were talking about the signage, there seem to be some antiquated issues in our laws and notifications. I feel like this is one of those kinds of things that needs to be addressed. The original documentation was for the 100 and now it went to 73, but as I said before, 40 kids. I would appreciate it if you guys would stick to that number. And overall, I just want to encourage that we have issues as residents here and I'm trying to be a good citizen and a neighbor. Thank you. Thank you. We talked about this at the last hearing. How many cars can be queued on the property? Like, I remember there was spaces where the parents would park and then they would be able to walk their kids into the daycare building. And then if that's filled up, like, how many cars can be queued waiting for a spot to be open so they can walk their child in? Anybody who wants to answer this and get a vote, come on up. So what I remember from the last presentation, there were parking spaces by the entry to the daycare. So the idea is they come in that little loop, park their car, get their kids out of the car, walk them in, check them in, get their car, and then they leave. If all those spots are filled up, there's an excess parking lot. How many cars could get queued until a space opens so they could walk their kid in? Or can they park out there and just walk them in from the outside lot? Because I don't feel like this is going to be an overflow into the streets. I think, and here's the problem. We're aware that there's an issue with the church in the neighborhood, but we can't really take that under consideration for this use. So I think it's in the best interest of the church to, I mean, it's very disconcerting that if the congregants who are going to services are yelling and, you know, accosting the neighborhood because they're upset that they're wrecking their quality of life, you know, I find that almost unbelievable, but I'm going to believe these people because they're under oath. So how many cars can be queued in the parking lot for the drop-off is basically what my question is. Okay. So as we indicated on the site, there's 140 parking, I think it was 140 parking spaces. And I'm just kind of looking, I don't know if you can see, but there, the plan is as they come in, there's a little parking lot right next to the, to the building. So parents would come in, park their car there, walk the kids. And how many of the cars are there? How many parking spaces are here? Yeah, parking spaces, right. I'm going to have to pull out the plan. Let me, let me take a, let me take a look at that. I cannot see if I don't remember. It's been a long night. So the parking space that you're referring to, if we had the photos, is the one right next to the entryway that has the curvature. So we have parking stops there from our estimation, it could take 15 down, 15 this way, 15 that way. So 45? About. Right in front of the entrance? No, not right in front of the entrance. I don't want you to, I don't want us to confuse it with the last go around where we wanted to do the drop-off zone. It's, it's, it's from the entrance. There's parking stops from the entrance that goes around to the fencing area. Yes. And in addition, we have, we have a lot more on the other side for the overflow. So we actually have more overflow than we actually have the primary parking spaces. I don't know if we can, everyone would have to park. Even, even if everybody, even if all 73 people park with the 13. 73. No, I'm just, I'm just going with the general thing. Even if all 73 cars park with the 13 teachers, you're averaging roughly about 86. And you. Are you going to have the teachers park a far away? No, the teachers have their own designated parking spot. That's the thing. Way. Yes. Okay. So even if that's the case, we will still have ample parking. Enough, so much so that there will be parking left over if somebody needs to park. So in worst case scenario, everybody on, in the childcare comes all at once to the childcare to come do one service. Let's just say, uh, I can't even imagine that scenario, but let's just say that happens. We not only have parking spaces, but we have over a hundred parking spaces. Well, you have attendance to make sure that they're utilizing those parking spaces that they're not trying to do. So, because here's the problem. It's just like so many bad things have happened during your services and during the weeks. And I do believe that you're making efforts. And listen, I understand that it's not a wealthy church and things take time and you're trying to pull this stuff together to make the facility better and a nicer place to worship. Um, but you know, the church, I think it should be an asset to a neighborhood. Yes, sir. And I feel like you want to make it an asset in the neighborhood. You just can't do everything. Is that, would that be fair to say? Yes. Everything at once is different. Yeah. We need to play a Powerball ticket. But I also would like, because I think there was an individual who came up and made a very valid point. If you were not here in December 20th, I can understand the more frustration. But, uh, I think a lot of the response that we've been getting, because I have been apologizing for a good amount of time. No, I feel it. I guess the thing that I'm saying, this is a separate issue. I'm not really taking this under consideration for the approval or disapproval of the daycare. But it seems to me, when you have people coming for your services, you got to have people on those corners. And if you see your congregants walking in off the streets to come to your church and you know that they parked in someone's yard, it's unbelievable to me that someone would park in someone's driveway and they couldn't even get in their own driveway. I hope that wasn't true. I hope that was a different circumstance. But I'm going to take her at her word. I'm going to go to Council Member Horland. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Pastor. I'm going to try to just distill this, because we've heard a lot of, you know, I'm so glad the residents came out. Many of them did speak in December. But again, we're conflating the issues with the church. And you have made some improvements. And we also need to remind everybody, we've got new leadership with the church who is trying to make the improvements. I'm going to ask you about your business plan a little bit. Would it be fair to say that the daycare, you're looking to make a profit with that? Or would it just cover your costs? No. You don't have to give me specifics. I'm just, I'm getting to a point with it. So the idea behind the daycare is mainly to help and be a resource to the community. So if it does help, we're hoping that it would at least cover the cost of functioning it. But because we are a non-profit organization, the idea of a profit for a non-profit organization And maybe I shouldn't have said profit, but I'm talking about if you cover your cost and the point that I'm getting at, and this is approved tonight, we're limiting you to the 40 enrollees. And then with the, what we had spoken about last time is come back, let's see how it's managed. And if there is a potential increase in enrollment, would you be able to cover your cost? And is the potential there with any income that you earn from the daycare to be able to continue to make improvements to the property? That's the point I'm getting to. So not a profit that's going into anybody's pocket, but something that you'll be able to continue to invest in the property. That's my point. Yes. Well, I'm just going to make this little tidbit of just, because I think upon our assessment of the plan, we're going based on what DCF recommended, which was 73. So I think 40 would have us to reconsider, because now that you have 40, you might not miss, because 40 means if you have seven rooms, that's five people per room, or six people per room. You have a room that they agreed that holds 16. So now if you're having three teachers in a room that holds 16, you can't keep having three teachers in a room that holds six. Sure. It doesn't work out. So, but we believe that it still will be possible with a lot of prayer and a lot of grace. And hopefully, if this does get through, we can hopefully, after reconciling with our neighbors a little bit more, hopefully bring it back to see if we can be a better asset to the community in that sense. And I think that's what all of us want. And I think that when we sent you back with the recommendations in December is we would like to see you succeed and be an asset to the community and also take the residents' concerns into consideration. So I think it's going to be an ongoing process, but I think if you're willing to continue to make improvements, understanding that finances are tight, but we don't want to hinder you. Yes, ma'am. So by approving this, if this is approved tonight, my point is would it enable you to start to see some success there with the property? We're praying on it. Okay. Yes. Councilmember Reinstein. So I've been disheartened by the parking situation and the use of the driveway, although I think that the amendment to the number of students to 40 may help deal with that concern overall. And I appreciate your still desire to work with the residents in the community. I did want to make clear is that a concern that I've had regarding notice has nothing to do with this alone. It's notice that we give regarding all of the matters that come before us. And so when this matter came before us and the department said that there was no objections to it, it was surprising since a year ago there were so many, and I didn't see that any of them were brought in approving it, right? So there weren't any letters from them saying they were in favor. So the surprise was that there were no objections to them. So I want to make clear that, you know, when I looked at the minutes from a year ago and saw all these residents, the question was whether they got notice. And in this situation they didn't, which was the reason why they were reached out to to make sure, hey, are you aware that this is going on today? We want to make sure that you're good and you've worked it out with the church. It sounds like there's still some more working out to do, including the resident right across who's still having the issue, not during the day that may be related to the students, but aftercare, but related to the way that parking goes on in general with the facility. Okay. So, Ms. Juana has a question in regards to that, but I do have one, just one point of clarity. Us as Sinai SDA church, we don't really handle notifying people. No, this wasn't regarding you, it's regarding the way that the city notifies people in the boundaries. It is a different discussion, but I wanted to make sure that they were aware that that was why we reached out to these people to make sure that they knew that this was going on tonight. Okay. He has a question, but just another point of clarification. Just one last point. So, I understand that we reached out to some total of around 300 square feet or however the dimensions work for reaching out. When I was participating in the reaching out, I mainly focused, I know that's a little biased on 46th street, because I understood that's where most of the concerns were coming from, particularly in the form of the church. I guess my question would be, wouldn't that be, because I'm still trying to figure out, how are we going to work out? I don't think we need to go further down the path with the notice, because that's a requirement that we put out there, and if it's not a wide enough reach, that's a discussion for another hearing. I think I have one more comment from the chamber, Mr. Corman, and then we're going to probably vote on this. Unless you want to speak after him, or would you like to go before him? Go ahead, please. If you would permit, I just wanted to address certain concerns that they had regarding the safety especially. Well, as a child care center, I wanted to emphasize on the fact that not only we would have constant teachers there to supervise the children, but also we already have ATM alarm system, meaning the moment a door is opened, the alarm would go off. And also, remember, we have two gates, meaning the reason of a child to run out and get outside of the street, that's very unlikely. I don't think any of that's an issue. I think the issue is what's happening with the traffic around your facility, and I think people are concerned about what's happening during the service days on Saturday and Sundays, and other days of the week, that this is going to create a more burden on their neighborhood. So, I think that there should be no overflow, and I think there needs to be a sermon about loving thy neighbor. And I think you're trying to, but there's a lot of work that needs to be done. So, let's take Mr. Corman's, unless you have anything else to say, ma'am? No. Is that good? Go ahead, Mr. Corman. Sorry. Rob Corman, 11095 Whitehawk Street, I've been sworn in, and I understand the rules. If you're looking at the plan, back in December when this was first brought up, the issues of bathrooms and accessibility throughout all the spaces were there, including with regards to where the adults would be, any visitors to the structure, and everything else. As I read that plan, that quite hasn't been addressed, especially if they go to the 73 students and 13 faculty members. At that point, you're looking at 90-something people in that room, in that building right there, with that bathroom layout. That's going to be somewhat chaotic, including with that number of children. So, while I understand that it's going to be 40 potentially approved tonight, the 40 sliding up to 73, if they come back and prove that they can run it, still doesn't address the limitations of bathroom usage within that building, and the issue of having to move from room to room in order to accomplish that, and where anybody who visits comes in, if the entrance is on that back side, right side, or left side, I guess, as this picture goes. So, please consider that, again, when we're looking at this question, why all of the neighborhood issues and church-related issues are somewhat relevant. The question is whether or not to allow a childcare facility to be run in that structure. None of the physical changes that we talked about back in December were made to that structure, as far as I read that plan. Thanks. Thank you. I guess along those lines, and I think this might be the final question. I forget the name of the licensing, the county licensing. Well, it wasn't DCF, it was the county. DCF was the secondary Brown County Licensing Department. They were okay with this floor plan and the bathrooms, and they were okay with up to 73. Okay, our motions with our conditions limited to 40, and then you can come back, how it's working out, and then make a lot of progress with the community. I don't have anything else. I don't see any other questions. I think we took all the comments from the chamber. Do you want to say one last thing? We're tired. Sorry, guys. Okay. I wholeheartedly want to thank all of you for hearing us out, to all the council members, Mr. Mayor and our city attorney, also to the neighbors, our neighbors. I apologize for what has happened in the past, and we're working very hard to actually get out and understand what's going on. Also, I would like to, you know, when we have funerals or we have weddings or, you know, a service, so that incident, I hope it's not our church members. It may be others elsewhere that don't know to not park out there, and we will, you know, again, reiterate and let them know that as it pertains to that. DCF, I know, again, just being an informal investigator myself, I know that once they come out and they give out the ratio, it's what the ratio is for the state. They would not approve it if the state, again, did not allow it. I do understand the concern. They agreed to your floor plan. Correct. Correct. Correct. So once DCF approves that for that daycare or that institution, that may be, it's, you know, by state. Okay. Okay. Yes. Okay. Ms. Begaro, please call the roll. Council Member Andreu. Yes. Council Member Horland. Yes. Council Member Einstein. No. Council Member Anderson. Yes. Council Member Fadgen. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Brings us to, thank you. Good luck. Please make a lot of work in the neighborhood. I would love the friend that call us unsolicited and just say, hey, things are great. Comments by the mayor, advisory report, board reports, I guess, transmittal. Mr. Mayor. Yes, indeed. I just want to share that this week we did a tabletop exercise, meaning that we kind of walked through what happens if a hurricane hits. So, Spire and Ezra especially led it. All the departments were there. And a couple of quick notes I thought I'd share. Number one, communication. When there's communication to go out, they're determining what the content is. Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. Can you go out into the lobby? Yeah, yeah. That's your hand. Okay. I'm sorry, man. We've cleaned up the communication part of all this. And our social media committee, which Councilmember Fadgen got to know them, we're going to have Ezra talk to them to make sure that all our messaging is optimal for when bad things happen, storms and everything. So, and the other thing is FROC, FROC forms, the Florida recovery operations forms. Those get us FEMA dollars quicker and we've had more people training how to fill those things out. So, financially, we're going to be a lot better off because we want to do them the day of and while it's still fresh and everything. So, I got a bunch of other details on that. I'm much more confident now that I've seen it with my own eyes, what's going to go down if something happens. That's all I got. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I believe that brings us to comments by council members. Councilmember Andrea. Thank you, President Fadgen. Tomorrow, are we still on for the event that's happening with FIRE? I know that the other event with 7 p.m. Yeah, but the town hall was canceled. The town hall was canceled and the PUSH is not happening tomorrow? I'll talk to Pam and I'll make sure you get a new memo tomorrow in an email from everybody. It's 7 p.m. I think that's what they did do, but you were out of the country. Yeah, I'm sorry, I am catching up, but I thought I had gone through everything and I didn't have a calendar invite for that. So I just want to make sure because I know there was some talk about moving it or changing it. Jason has it at 6.30. It originally was 6.30. It got moved to 7. It moved to 7 because of the town hall. Okay, which doesn't exist anymore. And I think it was not a calendar invite. It had just come from FIRE as a memo. That's probably why. Okay. Let's clean that up. All right. So just wanted clarification so we could all be there and be there at the right time if we're changing the timer. Okay. And then lastly, I look forward to seeing everybody at the 4th of July parade and festivities and be safe. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Reinstein. So first I wanted to say I did attend with the Plantation Fire Department the pride parade and there were fire department families out there and it was an honor to walk with them. Also want to congratulate the Parks and Rec Foundation on a very successful pickleball tournament. If you're still not familiar with the Parks and Rec Foundation, please look them up. I want to mention the passing of Marty Ireland. I don't know if you know Marty, but Marty has lived in plantation for many, many years and passed away on June 13th at 79 years old. So young, but he was a very active member of our city. So it's sad to hear of his passing and also looking forward to the parade, being in the parade and wishing everybody a happy Independence Day. Council Member Horland. I'm good. Just looking forward to seeing everyone next week. And in addition to our fabulous fireworks and concert at the park, you can now go to the top of the garage at Plantation Walk and watch the fireworks from that perspective. Life hack. Council Member Anderson. Well, I am going to miss the parade and the festivities locally. Not American. On vacation. Well, it's family. It's very American what I'm doing. Okay. Just not doing it in Plantation. Okay. Okay. So have a great time. Thanks. Thank you. Went to the Gateway meeting. Mayor was at the Gateway meeting. You know, it was at the Palms. I wasn't able to go to the ribbon cutting. I had a lot of things I had to take care of with work and then get prepared for the council meeting. So I was disappointed to miss the ribbon cutting. But a fantastic facility. That board is really – has transformed. The chairman, Mike Cooley, he is really – he's not patient. He wants things done. And Glenn's getting things done. And the board – I try to attend those meetings whenever I can. So very good. And great things are happening there. And it's kind of – it's really exciting to see what's happening at Gateway. Because I remember Gateway going back to my father being on the council and it just seemed like anything was ever going to get done. Fourth of July parade. I've already loaded up on extra candy because I like being popular when I roll through the city hall. And then two weeks ago qualifying ended for the November ballot. And I was fortunate enough not to draw an opponent as my friend, Council Member Andreas. So we are reelected. And I am beyond grateful, humble. I reflect on the last three and a half years of the things that I got to experience, the learn, mayor, council president, council president pro tem, city treasurer, general employee pension board member, MPO representative. I mean, I could never imagine what I've been given to experience. And I'm just so excited about the next four and a half years at this point in time. And just very excited. And, you know, I tell people there's very rarely I go into a meeting with anybody in the city that I don't learn something new or become more proud. And even my stint in the mayor's office, you know, it just took my pride in the city and the people that work for us and with us and make this place the place that I love so special. So thank you to everybody. And I can't wait for the next four years. And one last time, go Panthers. Holy cow. And now it is 11-16 and we are adjourned. Thank you for approving that. Of course. Listen. We're always going to make it happen. I know. Exactly. Exactly. That's what it's all about. I know. Exactly. That's what it's all about. I'm going to go get some breakfast. That's why Richard Paul said that. It was some fun. Where did you go? Her name is Juan de Paul. Oh, my God. Juan de Paul. She's like, why is that guy hugging you? I was like, my darling. She's very military. When I told my person. Do you know anybody a procurement team? I just don't know. I just don't know.