call to order the CRA meeting. You ready, Ms. Biggrove? Please call the roll. Commissioner Anderson? Here. Commissioner Andreu? Here. Commissioner Fadgen? Here. Commissioner Horland? Here. Commissioner Reinstein? Here. Commissioner Sortel? Here. Assistant City Attorney Morgan? Here. Thank you. Thank you. Consent agenda this evening consists of items 1 through 5 and may be approved with one motion. Does any member of the Commission wish to pull an item? Two. Who went first? I'll give it to Reinstein. All right. And anyone else? Two? Okay. Everybody wants two. And Mr. Conklin would like item number one. Any other member of the public like to pull a CRA item? Council Mayor Fadgen? Are you buzzing in? No? Okay. Motion to approve items 3, 4, and 5. Thank you, Commissioner Andreu. Ms. Biggrove, would you please call the roll? Second. Oh, second. That would help. Second. Thanks. Commissioner Anderson? Yes. Commissioner Andreu? Yes. Commissioner Fadgen? Yes. Commissioner Horland? Yes. Commissioner Reinstein? Yes. Commissioner Sortel? Yes. Thank you. Okay. Mr. Conklin, welcome, sir. You pulled item number one, which is the plantation community redevelopment agency audited financial statements. Thank you, sir. Dennis Conklin, 4581 Northwest Sixth Court. Heavenly Post Protect You and all of your families. For consent agenda number one, I thought it was propitious because when we get the city CAFER, we also get the CRA CAFER. And I have a comparison here for what I've always since the CRA launched in 2000 for 30 years to request that the city remove the extra millage rate from the property taxes that all of the businesses within the CRA, which was the old Gateway 7 Development District, and let them just pay the regular property tax like everybody else in the city. And the reason I've done that, as you can see, well, I provided it. From page 22 of the CAFER for the CRA, you have the TIF revenues. And that's the money that we get to keep in that district that otherwise would go to all these tax taxing agencies throughout the county. And it's for the redevelopment of that same area. And Gateway 7 and the CRA overlap. And after like the third year, the TIF exceeded the millage additional rate for that district. And now it exceeds it greatly. The Gateway 7 gives $786,000 a year. And TIF is $4,700,000 a year. So I ask that you withdraw the extra millage rate again, as usual, from the Gateway 7 businesses. And I'll yield back my time. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Conklin. Any discussion from the Commission? Do we have a motion to approve? Item number one? Motion to approve. Thank you. Do I have a second? I'll second. Ms. Figueroa, could you please call the roll? Commissioner Anderson? Yes. Commissioner Andreu? Yes. Commissioner Fadgen? Yes. Commissioner Horland? Yes. Commissioner Reinstein? Yes. Commissioner Sortel? Thank you very much. Yes. Item number two was pulled by multiple people, but I go first with Commissioner Reinstein. That's the acquisition of 1040 South State Road 7. Councilmember Reinstein? Yes. Commissioner Reinstein? Yes. Thank you very much. Mr. Hall? Yes. Yes. So, as Mr. Hall is the redevelopment administrator for the CRA, and Mr. Hall, we've had a chance to speak about this item previously, and really wanted to pull this, at least on my part, to bring it out for a little discussion in front of the public in regards to the decision or the request for $650,000 to purchase this property. And I really want to ask you some of the questions that I asked you privately in order to put them on the record. So, in the memo and the backup that we have in regards to this item, we have set forth the property on Peters Road, a number of properties on Peters Road that are part of this plan, redevelopment, part of this plan, to also try and provide some fee simple townhomes for first responders, teachers, nurses, and so forth. And I want to again confirm, though, is that those properties that we've previously discussed and have been previously approved, have not yet been pre-sold. There are properties that we've talked about that we are looking to, or hoping to, to provide for a certain segment of our residents that we believe are looking for this assistance. Yes. So, my concern is that another piece of property, now this one on State Road 7, that we are again, we're creating some type of inventory, but we haven't yet confirmed that this group, first responders, teachers, nurses, and so forth, are actually getting in line to purchase these. Can you speak to that for a moment? Well, as I mentioned in our previous discussion, the initial property that we have on Peters Road for the 14 townhomes, that's in the process of being platted right now. It's already been through the process and been vetted through council. A developer has been chosen. We had an RFP. We already have a site plan design. We already have the layout for that and also have a site plan design for the other property, 4367 Peters Road. So, we have a developer chosen that's gone through RFP process and vetted that already has done the same process at a CRA I used to work for in Fort Lauderdale, so this proven product. We've already had discussions with police, et cetera, on this type of product, and there is need. There is a demand. I think also during our strategic planning meeting that we had, it was also stated that it was something to be used as an incentive for fire and police as retention, recruitment process also. So, that's what we're trying to do. And with the CRA in general, as you know, we have markets. We have workforce. We have senior housing in the area. So, we want to also have ownership within the district, and that is part of our strategy for the area. So, just to confirm, though, in terms of your response, the need and demand, though, is that we don't have a list, so to speak, of interested individuals. We just, anecdotally, there's a need and a demand, and we're hoping that once these come into, you know, the public, you know, availability, that people are going to come for them. Well, as I mentioned to you before, we've had some delays in the planning process. We didn't want to be preemptive as far as starting that process without a developer actually doing the site plan completion, planning, et cetera, and have that part done. Then having conversations with, and negotiations with the developer to understand pricing, et cetera. We didn't want to be preemptive with that, and we didn't want to ramp up expectations until we get that part complete. As I told you before, we've had some significant delays in the survey and planning process, what we're trying to remedy this week. That has delayed that process. We'll be a lot further ahead, but that's going to be remedied, so then we can go through that process of developing that list as was done in the process that was done in Syria and Fort Lauderdale. There's a process and procedure, having that list, having people pre-approved in that process, assistance, et cetera, and that's developed, and that process will go so far. So just on that point, again, just my concern is that we're adding to inventory, we're adding another property without yet being assured of people to purchase these townhomes that we're looking at adding to Peter's Road and now to State Road 7. The other question is in regards to the decision for the CRA to fund the purchase as opposed to seeking for a developer to purchase, make the purchase, and to go in on partnering with us, but put the onus on the developer to make the purchase instead of this coming out of CRA funds. Why are we deciding to go this route instead of the other one? As I mentioned before in our previous conversation, we have reached out. We have different levels of developers that we work with in the district, trusted developers that we know we can work with until the end of the CRA, and you're very familiar with them. These smaller properties are not really interesting to these larger developers. They're really interesting for speculators who want to be the last piece of a larger assemblage. So we see the vision. We see how the public's development, $11 million upgrade, the new ER for HCA. We even have Rick Case actually purchased a property across the street from them seeing the changes that are going on and want to be preemptive because the speculators are there now. I mean, the property's going to be, this property's already been attempted to be flipped right now. And what we're trying to do is be preemptive and get these properties, and as you know, the process that we've been doing, we have not been using any brokers at all. We've just been really talking with individuals, people that we know in the area. Some of them are nuisance properties that have had, some of them have had code issues and basically have reached out to the individuals and say, look, you may need some assistance, et cetera. We can come in and take care of this for you, and that's what they're doing. Especially when they see the end point, they see that it's going to be something that they can be proud of as far as a fee simple product. They become amenable to that. So even in this site, by itself it's too small for the developer. What we're trying to do is possibly making an assemblage, but even the assemblage is going to be no more than probably like a half an acre. And typically developers that we've worked with, like Green Mills, they need at least an acre to do anything, so to be too small. So for us, it makes sense to get these smaller properties preemptively and so that we can fit the footprint of these fee simple townhomes that would work. And since this is strategically, you can see from the map, it's still very close to the park that we've actually, you know, we expanded the park. So it's an amenity that these townhomes actually exit into the park, a great amenity, and these other ones on 441, it's just across the street. So it works out within that particular area. Thank you. Thank you. Councilman Fragin. Thank you. I don't know what your title is, Commissioner Orland. So I'm looking at the appraisal report as of January 1st, 2026. It's $336,000. The assessed value is $415,000. Why such a premium for the property? They've had this property since 2004. The pictures look like it's not horribly kept, but, you know, they obviously haven't done anything with it. Why are we rewarding them with such a premium on that price? Okay. I was going to answer that. Go ahead. Good evening. Jason Nuttermaker, CAO. If you look at the BCPA, they've got the building value at $600,000. So from a landowner perspective, it's of value to them. From our perspective and from the appraiser's value, it's fully depreciated. It's obsolete. If you look at the development, it's got concrete to concrete. And as Glenn alluded to earlier, there's nothing. I understand that. I'm just saying, like, if we were just the public trying to purchase this property, they wouldn't get it for $350,000. They wouldn't get it for $350,000. It wouldn't appraise. Sure. So you're going to. They wouldn't be able to borrow to buy the land. So realistically, you're going to confine it to a rental status or somebody's going to purchase it for cash. And so what we're trying to do and the whole purpose of the CRA is to stimulate these. I understand that. And I'm not opposed to that. I'm just saying that this is a pretty hefty premium, even with the, I guess, the improved value. You're saying it was $603,000 for the property appraiser. Exactly. So we're $50,000 over that. And then our appraiser said $336,000. Yes, sir. So. They were just basically done just on like. I'm sorry. They were really basing it just on land value basically for that one. And I agree. You know, and I don't mind giving a little bit of benefit, but they really haven't been a great investor in the district, in the gateway. So I have paused with the $650,000. I think it should have been probably closer to $550,000, you know. How did we come up with that number? Through discussions with them, taking into account that there isn't a broker fee, to have it done cleanly and quickly. Well, they're getting the broker fee. Well, but it's not on top of. When we've gotten into discussions with folks, brokers come to the table, put stars in their eyes about what they're going to be able to get. It clouds the situation. We're also trying to act as quickly as we can to get as much done in the next five years. In this particular corridor, there's a couple of opportunities. I mean, Glenn has mentioned, you know, the Hometown Heroes project. But this block, if you look at the opportunity with the alleyway and the rear, if we were to get more provocative, we have the opportunity to transform that whole block. Don't misunderstand my comments about what you're talking about, what we're trying to accomplish. But to the point that there's no brokerage fee, it should have gone the other way in the negotiation. So if it's like $600,000, you know, the benchmark, you know, okay, it should be a little bit less than that $600,000, but not so much where it would – where they're still getting a benefit of not using a realtor, in my opinion. I just think the price is too high. I think we could have done better with that negotiation. I appreciate that. Okay. That's all. Thank you. And so, and I'm going to add to that, that's all. And so we're trying to get a decent property next door. As I mentioned to you, folks are starting to see the property that can be part of an assemblage, and they're creating a value for that. And so, what we're trying to do now is get ahead of that as we, you know, we go forward, because as I mentioned to you, when they see all this other development going on, people are getting stars in their eyes right now. Right? And so we're trying to get it at this level. And as I mentioned in the memo, there's possibilities for an assemblage adjacent. adjacent we're going to be meeting with those individuals also to get that before these properties get tied up by speculators and then the last one and then they basically hold people hostage to development in the area it's like the game of Monopoly so if we get that parcel it's much more difficult for somebody exactly at this price you good thank you Commissioner Andrea thank you that was really my question what is the status of that vacant parcel that's contiguous to this one yeah we don't want to talk about it too much we'll be meeting with them we already have a meeting scheduled with them to discuss the same owner for both those properties yes so is there a possibility that this might come back to us with some changes and maybe because it's like you mentioned it's a very small project I'm excited about this this is exactly what I have been asking for right home ownership and not rentals right and to Commissioner Reinstein's I don't know if it was a comment or question but you you mentioned anecdotal data but we do have actual data like we have facts from Habitat from Humanity and from the Greater Fort Lauderdale Alliance so we have the data where we need housing and ownership is the demand is there yeah right not so much as rentals and so I love these small projects that you're doing in the CRA I just want to know is there a possibility that this could come back and we might be able to get a few more units yes but it's a different owner on the two other lots so we're already gonna be we've already scheduled a meeting with them to discuss okay possibilities okay that's what we try to do we just we talk folks we're bringing them in and we you know we get away from the zoom get away from the we come in and have a discussion to meet with the mayor and Jason myself and we go through the process and typically we come up with a good resolution kudos to you because I'm I'm very pleased with all of the improvements in the gateway so thank you thank you thank you and I concur we've had this discussion many times and the role of a community redevelopment agency is to acquire blighted properties and redevelop and create a vibrant community both residential and commercial so you know while I did say to mr. Nunmaker the the price gave me a little pause but I understand what we're trying to accomplish there and as you said there's a lot of speculation in that corridor I will say once again not this legislative session the one previous when we were fighting that CRA bill when they want to do it the CR do away with the CRAs the success that we have had in that area because we've been acquiring properties we shut down the plantation in Publix took a look at that HCA investment Publix investment that was what helped us to kill that bill because it showed that we are doing exactly what a CRA should be doing so and just to add to the police officers I will tell you anecdotally it's not anecdotally I had a conversation which two with two of our young SROs and they were not aware at the point at that point of what we were doing on Peters Road and they were very excited and that's when I asked planning zoning to please put together a list of all the projects that we've approved that would be available to our first responders medical staff and such so I'm very excited about it I see I have two more commissioners that want to speak and when I say I don't I actually have not written but I've actually had police officers multiple police officers come to me ask me when it's gonna start so it's the demand is there about that Commissioner Anderson and then Commissioner Reinstein you hit right on your final comments or right where I was gonna pick up that is in it totally that when someone just tells you something that's anecdote wait why don't we put together a survey of our employees to kind of actually get numbers of our fire and police our first responders who would want them so we can have you know knowing it might take a few years because it takes time out to acquire and plan and plat and build and move in but we should probably pull our our fire and police we should probably get some numbers to see how much we should be doing and I also concur with councilmember Fadgen I feel it's a little high but I I agree with what we're doing and you've done a phenomenal job the catalyst catalyst is the word if you had to summarize one word we put we you're making a catalyst for the area that's what it's for I think it's a little high but maybe you've got other things you're working on it and I'll trust you on that but I think we should ask our employees so we know so we know we get because we can't keep saying we're building for five yeah please and first responders if we only have five on a list we already have more than five we're building yeah and as I mentioned it before and we would be there now it's just that we've had some really significant delays in our planning process which we didn't account that we're really pressing on it right now informal survey yeah it's something we're ready in one year two years three years five years what how like you like a Likers scale how like would you be to purchase if it was something it just gives you something a little more data to pipeline that's all and again it's a great recruit recruiting tool as well thank you Commissioner Anderson Commissioner Reinstein and then mayor yeah thank you I just want to follow up with my own comments mr. Hall I think you're doing an amazing job with the CRA I think that you whenever you have brought something to us in regards to the CRA it's always for the benefit of the entire entire gateway area and for me my concern is in terms of the 650,000 and the benefit of the entire gateway and I I think the what we've already talked about previously in regards to Peters Road I'm looking forward to seeing those getting occupied and seeing how happy all of the individuals are that we're looking to build those for so it my comments in no way suggest that I think that your efforts on redevelopment are are any less than excellent so thank you I appreciate that and also to add all those properties that are vacant and being repositioned and even previously we had three homes that are basically you know it's a slumlord situation that we incentivized to be vacated and torn down all those are also also sending a good strong signal to the palms that's a twenty something million dollar project who was having difficulties because of the vagrancy when they see that happening that gives them a lot of you know reinforcement that the city of plantation really cares about what they're trying to do and when we were having discussions with the case family about you know different options within the area they basically said you know what Glenn we like what you guys are doing we will reinvest and they did that five million dollars to buy another nuisance property that was across the street that literally when they cleared out a section of there was a homeless encampment so the the biggest compliment that a CRA can get is when folks are already here are reinvesting Commissioner Sortel also known as mayor I love Commissioner Anderson's idea we can do that survey we would love to we'll talk to police and fire and get some data on their interest in all kinds of homes cool just very quick when we talk police and fire I mean I know it's a generic question generalized but are we talking our own police fire our own but what about ones that live in the city but work in a different city I think the emphasis is going to be our own first first yeah it should be a pecking order but then would they be next in line now I would think public works and those also it's it's first responders and as you mentioned works utilities yeah I'm sorry I do want to address that you know the mayor has been engaging with employees through town hall meetings for the past few weeks and we do need to broaden that to include public works utilities parks and rec you know the average cost of a home and plantations about seven hundred thousand dollars and you know that you don't have to do a lot of math to understand that that's unaffordable for many people we also are getting closer with Habitat on the hiatus piece and that if that is a model we can bring to the gateway as well well then you're you're really changing the game because then you're talking about a mortgage payment of closer to a thousand dollars which is very achievable because of zero percent cost as far as the mortgage goes so we've got a lot of things we're working on but I don't I didn't want to leave that thinking that we weren't looking to broaden that opportunity for folks thank you and that was our goal with the Habitat project to be able to provide for our own employees so if we can we'll have that models in place to be able to expand that to be great mayor did you have anything else okay Commissioner Reinstein yeah just one more mr. Noonemaker since you just mentioned Habitat did we reach out to Habitat in regards to this piece of property we don't want to be presumptuous so depending on what happens tonight those are discussions we can have and not just about here but to seek out other opportunities the the hiatus property we had had discussions on the administration had had discussions with Habitat prior to bringing it to us their interest but we had the property right we've had general discussions about the 441 corridor because we do want to broaden those ownership opportunities and I'd love to say more about where we'd like to target that but I don't want to understand that thank you that answer my question thank you and also and also too since we have the RFP that was done for that particular part of 14 townhomes from talking with you can actually extend into those other properties would I have to do an RFP that's my understanding so I'll leave it at that okay enough said before Commissioners we are there any further comments before I turn over the public okay mr. Conklin you signed up to speak on this issue thank you I may approach Dennis Conklin 4581 Northwest Six Court it sounds like I should not mentions what I was going to mention because it's been mentioned but gentlemen when the Gateway 7 special district was developed is basically because of slum and blight and crime and this gentleman stepped up and the doctor he got a lot of visible properties and they are visible because one reason when the state eminently domain State Road 7 it completely wrecked a very viable part of the city because that place when I moved in well I moved to Florida in 81 but I moved into plantation after we were running in 83 that was a very fantastic restaurant role State Road 7 and the businesses that were ancillary to that in addition when they took basically they took their parking lots it just shut those whole properties out and it cast the whole east part of the town city into what it is now and what mr. Hall has been doing in the few years that he's been here with 30 years of the CRA and I look at the CAF for every year and you see the money that's there between the CRA and the district right they got what 20 million bucks sitting there and it's it's like a glacier and there's no global warming right so I'll basically yield back because the information on the money was in the first one that you can see and thank you I yield back thank you mr. Conklin anyone else from the public wish to speak on this item all right that's bigger I need a motion motion to approve item number two please call the roll commissioner Anderson yes commissioner Andre you yes commissioner Fajan no commissioner Horland yes commissioner Reinstein no mr. sortle yes thank you thank you miss big girl mr. Conklin did you also want to speak on generally on the CRA did you also want to speak on other items in the CRA you signed up for general comments yes okay so public request of the Commission for the CRA is open mr. Conklin you're the only one signed up apologies Dennis Conklin 4581 Northwest Sixth Court and my request is basically the same as usual if you would kindly limit the redevelopment of Plantation General Hospital when that's demolished to a three-story it's probably going to be for residential because then it would match the village green condominiums and the much lower two-story I used to call them Kingston Trio because one of the three pods of the apartments there were named Kingston and so that's basically my request and what's the update on the grand opening for the emergency center because I think we missed it right it didn't huh may 5th may 5th thank you and let's see may 7th you know what were my hearing aids may 7th commissioner Horland may 7th at 9 a.m. may 7th at 9 a.m. is the updated date they changed the date mr. Conklin and I thank you and please consider limiting that height thank you sir yield back any other public comments regarding the CRA okay with that public comments for the CRA are closed and the CRA meeting is now adjourned it's