About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of Why Trump FIRED Press Secretary Kate Zacharia: Body Language Analysis from Dr. G Explains, published October 17, 2026. The transcript contains 2,502 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"Hey everybody, Dr. G here, I'm a clinical and forensic psychologist as well as a body language expert, and today we're going to be analyzing why Katie Zachariah is already the former White House press secretary. Before we get started with this, a couple of quick things. One, I wanted to make sure..."
[0:00] Hey everybody, Dr. G here, I'm a clinical and forensic psychologist as well as a body
[0:04] language expert, and today we're going to be analyzing why Katie Zachariah is already
[0:08] the former White House press secretary.
[0:10] Before we get started with this, a couple of quick things.
[0:11] One, I wanted to make sure you know this is not a psychological evaluation of any kind.
[0:15] These are just my opinions.
[0:16] In addition to that, I do want to remind you to like and subscribe if you want to see more
[0:19] content just like this.
[0:21] All right, let's go.
[0:22] After only five days, Katie Zachariah has been fired as White House press secretary.
[0:26] What we're going to do is watch various clips that she had during her very brief stint,
[0:30] and we're going to talk about why she was likely fired.
[0:32] All right, let's just jump right in.
[0:33] In my last video, I did a full body language analysis of President Trump and Katie Zachariah
[0:37] during this press gaggle.
[0:39] I want to show you just a few seconds of this to show you the exact moment when I think that
[0:43] President Trump realized Katie Zachariah was going to be fired.
[0:46] You said she's in the attorney.
[0:48] Where did she pass the bar exam?
[0:49] Which state?
[0:50] What did she tell us?
[0:53] You passed the bar.
[0:55] That double take right there was the moment.
[0:58] President Trump doesn't like surprises, and he doesn't like being embarrassed.
[1:01] And when she just said that when they asked when she passed the bar, when she said it was
[1:05] when she went to China, that was it.
[1:08] Did she tell us?
[1:12] Where did she pass the bar?
[1:12] Where did she pass the bar exam?
[1:15] You passed the bar exam.
[1:18] Now we're going to watch Katie Zachariah get interviewed by Sean Hannity.
[1:21] Of being a lawyer.
[1:22] Now, you did go to Pepperdine.
[1:23] Pepperdine is a good school.
[1:25] No doubt about it.
[1:26] You took the bar exam, but you didn't pass the bar exam, correct?
[1:31] So you see this huge smile.
[1:33] It's a very effective tool to hide how you actually feel, because doing this and keeping
[1:37] the corners of your mouth up, not that hard to do.
[1:39] Now, obviously, there's no wrinkles next to her eyes, which is exactly how you'd see
[1:42] when somebody is actually feeling good or feeling happy.
[1:44] But you can see that her strategy, in order to give a specific impression for impression
[1:49] management, is to just maintain a smile whenever you're uncomfortable.
[1:53] Of being a lawyer.
[1:54] Now, you did go to Pepperdine.
[1:55] Pepperdine is a good school.
[1:57] No doubt about it.
[1:59] You took the bar exam, but you didn't pass the bar exam, correct?
[2:03] Yes, Sean.
[2:04] You could hear the way she said that came out a little bit awkward.
[2:07] And I think that's because she was in the emotional center of her brain.
[2:10] Now, the emotional center and the intellectual centers of the brain are actually separate.
[2:13] They are two different areas of the brain.
[2:15] So when you're being asked something, if it feels scary or it feels threatening or you're
[2:19] feeling anxious, it's going to be very hard to engage with just having a normal flow to
[2:23] the way you speak.
[2:24] The bar exam, but you didn't pass the bar exam, correct?
[2:29] Yes, Sean.
[2:32] Okay, did you ever take it a second time?
[2:34] So for background, I graduated Pepperdine, got married in the same week.
[2:40] And we had all intent to move out to China.
[2:44] I had already pre-registered for the bar exam.
[2:47] And during basically...
[2:49] You see the constant blinking.
[2:50] There's a lot of stress here as she's trying to field these questions.
[2:53] During the summer, I knew I would be living in China and the results of the bar were
[2:58] inconsequential.
[3:00] And I sat for it because I didn't want to have a withdrawal status.
[3:04] And then I moved over to China and where I did get a job in an international practice
[3:09] of a Chinese law firm.
[3:10] I was doing cross-country border transactions and multi-million dollar shareholder agreements.
[3:17] Now, I don't know much about transactional law, but when she's talking about having just
[3:21] graduated, she couldn't even pass the bar and she's doing multi-million dollar transactions,
[3:24] that just sounds very strange.
[3:26] So I think that every time she spoke, it made people ask more questions, which is what
[3:30] I think probably contributed to her actually being let go so quickly.
[3:34] Cross-country border transactions and multi-million dollar shareholder agreements.
[3:38] But I want to ask you specifically, I know that part of the story and you did do all of
[3:43] that.
[3:43] Yes.
[3:44] But did you ever...
[3:45] She seems to be struggling to maintain the smile right now.
[3:47] She keeps trying, but it keeps going off of her face because I think this is very,
[3:51] very stressful.
[3:52] Okay, there's a report out tonight that showed 15 social media posts where you identify yourself
[3:58] as an attorney.
[3:58] I think they were retweets and I corrected the record and said that those not endorsing
[4:05] the title, they were retweets of a title that had been given.
[4:08] Now, she just said, I think they were retweets.
[4:10] Having that non-committed language immediately raises new questions because if they were retweets,
[4:15] she could have just said those were retweets and given a full explanation.
[4:18] But I think those are retweets is a weak way to respond to a question like that.
[4:22] I think they were retweets and I corrected the record and said that those not endorsing the
[4:28] title, they were retweets of a title that had been given.
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[5:47] Alright, now let's get back to the analysis.
[5:48] Now we're going to watch part of Katie Zechariah's one and only press briefing.
[5:52] I am so honored to work for President Trump and the American people as the new White House
[6:00] press secretary.
[6:01] So her starting out by reading that she is honored word for word off of a page is going
[6:05] to have people questioning her authenticity.
[6:07] Because for a press secretary, typically they have to be fairly charismatic.
[6:11] They have to be able to get along with the press and to speak off the cuff.
[6:14] And she is reading even the most basic statements directly as it's written.
[6:17] I want to thank President Trump for his trust that he has placed in me.
[6:26] I have wanted to work for him for a very long time.
[6:31] I'm looking forward to working with each of you as well, especially as we are in the middle
[6:37] of the midterm blitz with energy and excitement.
[6:41] So this goes back to that part of the brain where emotions take over and the intellectual
[6:45] part cannot get accessed.
[6:47] What you should be able to do in a situation like this is glance down and see basically
[6:50] what you're going to say and then talk about it.
[6:52] And it seems like the nerves are so much that she can't seem to get out even a single sentence
[6:56] without looking down and basically reading it off a page.
[6:58] Another reason I think people recognize she struggled so much was that she used the smile
[7:13] too much.
[7:14] She tried to cover up too much of how she was feeling because she clearly appears anxious
[7:17] here, but continues to smile, which makes people uncomfortable.
[7:21] Smiling like that does not match with the behavior at all.
[7:24] So it feels very strange.
[7:25] Be with him and Georgia building off of the incredible momentum generated over the last
[7:33] several days from his stops in Tennessee, New York, Texas, and Nebraska.
[7:39] So we're going to see basically a repetition of this behavior throughout the entire press
[7:44] briefing.
[7:45] Now let's jump to when she actually starts to respond to questions.
[7:48] And with that, I will take your questions here in our new media seat.
[7:55] We have Nick Galbertson from...
[7:57] She continues to read basically every line, a handful of words at a time.
[8:01] It's very, very hard to listen to.
[8:04] And what I hope to do in this position is to take that into an official capacity and
[8:08] only build on, only amplify and only multiply to the extent possible all of the wins he's
[8:15] making for Americans.
[8:16] For Americans to understand how much has changed in this brief period of time, what he's been
[8:22] able to accomplish, my goal is to be able to communicate that in complete tandem with the
[8:28] president, as he is his own best spokesperson and will absolutely be leading the way.
[8:33] She seems to struggle a bit with providing responses with any real substance at all.
[8:37] And I think that's what we're seeing is that when she's not reading words on a page, she's
[8:40] really struggling with the substance of what she's saying.
[8:42] And I adore my family.
[8:45] I love them.
[8:46] They are my priority.
[8:48] I love being with my kids.
[8:50] The idea of not spending evenings with my kids is completely unacceptable.
[8:56] So my president, excuse me, my husband, that's a good one.
[9:01] I think what happened psychologically just now is actually quite interesting.
[9:04] We tend to put people in categories.
[9:06] So if you have children, for example, you might say the wrong name of the child because they
[9:10] are all in the sort of same category.
[9:13] Now it's interesting that somehow president Trump and her husband in her brain right now
[9:17] are in the same category.
[9:18] And that was interchangeable for her.
[9:19] It's a very odd mistake to make actually, but it also may show just how much she likes
[9:24] president Trump, how much that she genuinely has affection for him.
[9:27] That may actually be quite true.
[9:28] So my president, excuse me, my husband, that's a, that's a good one.
[9:34] My husband is out here, is out here for the week.
[9:38] And you saw her look down afterwards, there was likely some real embarrassment that came
[9:42] with that.
[9:42] That's a good one.
[9:43] My husband is out here, is out here for the week.
[9:48] And that's what I will answer.
[9:49] I'll leave it there.
[9:52] He will, he will answer those questions out and bring my questions out.
[9:57] And now she has a quick and arguably awkward exit after a very brief press briefing.
[10:01] Now we're going to go to one last clip of president Trump talking about whether or not she should
[10:06] stay in that position very shortly before she was fired.
[10:08] Mr. President, Mr. President, would you apply to a tone that Katie Zachariah didn't pass
[10:14] the bar and how would you rate her performance?
[10:16] Well, Katie's been treated very badly by the media.
[10:19] Very, very badly.
[10:20] Very unfairly, I think.
[10:21] Now that president Trump is being confronted with the fact that Katie Zachariah did not pass
[10:25] the bar and he's being asked questions directly about it, he's basically deflecting, saying
[10:28] that maybe this isn't the right position for her because she's such a nice person
[10:31] and the media is unfair.
[10:33] And I just spoke to her about it.
[10:35] I said, Katie, is this for you?
[10:37] Because, you know, she's been treated very rough and she's a nice person.
[10:42] Very nice person.
[10:43] I've watched her for years on television.
[10:45] But I said, is this for you, Katie?
[10:47] Because honestly, you don't need this.
[10:50] You don't have to be treated.
[10:51] So he's saying, is this for you?
[10:52] You don't need this.
[10:53] So this is a way of saying, you're not going to do this anymore.
[10:56] So he's framing it as though it's a question.
[10:58] It is not a question.
[10:59] That was the moment where he was saying, you're no longer going to be doing this.
[11:03] And she did.
[11:04] I saw Fox and Friends this morning.
[11:07] She's been treated, I would say, pretty nastily.
[11:12] And I said to Katie, just two minutes ago, I said, Katie, you know, you don't have to do this.
[11:17] You don't want to.
[11:18] She said, this is a lot tougher.
[11:21] I said, welcome to the world of Trump.
[11:24] I wouldn't let her make that decision.
[11:26] Now, he claims that it was her decision, but based on how he's framing it, I'm not so sure.
[11:30] Let's go and start to wrap things up.
[11:32] Hopefully, this is helping you better understand some of the behavior and body language we saw today.
[11:35] The first day for every White House press secretary doesn't have to go incredibly well.
[11:39] But the disaster that we saw with Katie Zachariah made it very clear that this was not going to last long.
[11:44] And once the question started coming up about whether or not she was actually an attorney, because she had apparently used that word through tweets and so on and so forth, it seemed like it was really only a matter of time.
[11:54] So after only five days, Katie Zachariah apparently has been fired, and it is likely that we will not see her again as far as any of these White House press briefings.
[12:02] I can't fathom that she does one as a farewell press briefing or anything like that, given the short stint.
[12:06] But if she does, I will definitely be analyzing that as well.
[12:09] If you have any thoughts about this or if there's anything else you want me to analyze, please let me know in the comments below.
[12:13] Last thing before we get finished up is I do want to remind you to like and subscribe if you want to see more content just like this.
[12:18] All right.
[12:19] Thanks for watching.