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"U.S. force is cracking down, conducting a maritime interdiction more than 2,000 miles from the strait of Hormuz, boarding a sanctioned tanker ship, transporting oil from Iran in the Indian Ocean. This coming as President Trump has a new warning for Iran over the strait. Welcome to a brand new hour..."
[0:00] U.S. force is cracking down,
[0:01] conducting a maritime interdiction
[0:03] more than 2,000 miles from the
[0:05] strait of Hormuz, boarding a
[0:07] sanctioned tanker ship,
[0:08] transporting oil from Iran in the
[0:10] Indian Ocean.
[0:11] This coming as President Trump has
[0:12] a new warning for Iran over the
[0:15] strait.
[0:16] Welcome to a brand new hour of
[0:17] America's Newsroom.
[0:18] I'm Dana Perino.
[0:19] Bill Hemmer is off today.
[0:20] It's great to have you.
[0:20] Got the other bill.
[0:21] Yes, the other bill in my life.
[0:24] Good to see you as always.
[0:25] I'm Bill Malugin.
[0:26] President Trump tells Fox right
[0:27] now there's just no rush to make
[0:29] a deal with Iran as the ceasefire
[0:31] remains in place while the U.S.
[0:32] continues to enforce a naval
[0:34] blockade, disrupting illicit
[0:35] networks, providing material
[0:37] support to Iran wherever they
[0:39] operate.
[0:40] The point of this is the economic
[0:42] leverage that we maintain over
[0:44] Iran now.
[0:45] While there's a ceasefire with
[0:46] respect to the military and
[0:48] kinetic strikes, Operation
[0:49] Economic Fury continues.
[0:52] And the crux of that is this
[0:53] naval blockade.
[0:54] So the president, the cards are in
[0:56] his hands.
[0:57] The United States maintains
[0:58] control over the situation.
[1:01] He has all of the leverage.
[1:02] But right now, the blockade
[1:03] continues to be massively
[1:05] effective and inflicting maximum
[1:07] leverage and economic pressure on
[1:09] the regime right now.
[1:11] And Lucas Tomlinson has some new
[1:12] information from the White House.
[1:13] He is joining us live on the
[1:14] North Lawn.
[1:15] Lucas, good morning to you.
[1:17] Good morning, Bill.
[1:17] President Trump issuing new
[1:19] orders, the U.S.
[1:20] military to destroy any Iranian
[1:22] boats caught laying mines in the
[1:24] strait of Hormuz, saying he will
[1:26] blow up the ceasefire if they do.
[1:28] The president also posting on
[1:30] true social moments ago.
[1:32] Another post about Iran's
[1:33] leadership, saying, quote, Iran is
[1:34] having a very hard time figuring
[1:36] out who their leader is.
[1:37] They just don't know.
[1:39] The infighting between the
[1:40] hardliners who have been losing
[1:41] badly on the battlefield and the
[1:43] moderates who are not very
[1:44] moderate at all, but gaining
[1:45] respect is crazy.
[1:47] We have total control over the
[1:48] strait of Hormuz.
[1:49] No ship can enter or leave without
[1:51] the approval of the United States
[1:53] Navy.
[1:53] It is sealed up tight until such
[1:55] time as Iran is able to make a
[1:57] deal.
[1:58] Thank you for your attention to
[1:59] this matter.
[2:00] Now, overnight, as you mentioned,
[2:01] Bill, U.S. forces bordering a
[2:02] third Iranian ship, with the
[2:04] military is calling a right of
[2:05] visit boarding of a sanctioned,
[2:07] stateless vessel called the
[2:08] Majestic 10, transporting oil
[2:10] from Iran in the Indian Ocean.
[2:13] Pentagon says it will continue
[2:14] global maritime enforcement like
[2:15] this to disrupt illicit networks
[2:17] and interdict vessels providing
[2:19] material support to Iran
[2:20] wherever they operate.
[2:21] Yesterday, Iran seized two ships
[2:24] in the strait of Hormuz after U.S.
[2:26] forces seized two of Iran's
[2:27] ships in an apparent tit for tat.
[2:30] Iran says the strait remains
[2:31] closed unless the blockade is
[2:33] lifted.
[2:33] According to Central Command, U.S.
[2:35] forces have directed 31 vessels
[2:37] to turn around or turn to port as
[2:39] part of the U.S. blockade
[2:40] against Iran.
[2:41] Here's more from Caroline Levitt on
[2:42] the negotiations with Iran.
[2:44] With Martha yesterday.
[2:46] We're waiting to hear back from
[2:48] the Iranian regime.
[2:49] The fact that they cannot send a
[2:51] unified message yet, which is why
[2:53] the president decided to extend
[2:54] the ceasefire, just shows how
[2:56] effective Operation Epic Fury
[2:58] truly was, because there's a lot
[3:00] of internal division over there.
[3:01] The president understands that,
[3:03] and so we await their response.
[3:04] The president, the cards are in
[3:05] his hands.
[3:07] The United States maintains
[3:08] control over the situation.
[3:10] He has all of the leverage.
[3:12] Right now, there are no plans for
[3:14] Vice President J.D. Vance to lead
[3:16] a delegation to Islamabad to resume
[3:18] negotiations with Iran, who says
[3:20] they won't show up to Islamabad to
[3:22] talk with the U.S. side unless the
[3:24] blockade is lifted.
[3:25] In the next few days, a third U.S.
[3:27] aircraft carrier strike group will
[3:28] be on station in the Middle East.
[3:30] That's the USS George H.W. Bush
[3:32] strike group.
[3:33] Bill.
[3:33] All right.
[3:34] We'll see if we end up getting that
[3:35] second round of talks.
[3:36] Lucas Tomlinson live at the White
[3:37] House.
[3:38] Lucas, thanks.
[3:39] More on this with Brent Sadler.
[3:40] He's a Heritage Foundation senior
[3:42] fellow and former U.S.
[3:43] Navy captain.
[3:43] I want to have you listen to
[3:45] somebody you probably know very
[3:47] well, Kenneth Brathwaite.
[3:49] He was on last hour.
[3:50] He's a former secretary of the
[3:51] Navy.
[3:53] The power of America from the sea
[3:56] to the shore is being
[3:57] demonstrated today.
[3:59] We do have the ability to seize
[4:01] the straits.
[4:02] We do have the ability, as the
[4:04] president indicated, to wipe out
[4:05] the fast boats.
[4:07] We have three carrier strike groups.
[4:08] We have two amphibious readiness
[4:10] groups, assorted other fleet
[4:13] assets that are there.
[4:14] Again, this is the greatest
[4:15] concentration of naval forces that
[4:18] we've seen in a long time.
[4:19] And Brent, as you add the U.S.
[4:22] George H.W.
[4:23] Bush, that's a lot of naval power
[4:26] there that can help figure out a
[4:27] way to get this to the next stage.
[4:29] Your thoughts this morning.
[4:31] Well, yes, that's a lot of afloat
[4:33] diplomacy that's headed towards
[4:35] Iran, and they need to take note.
[4:37] I think it's important to kind of
[4:38] also build on what President Trump
[4:40] said in his truth posting just
[4:42] recently, and that is any Iranian
[4:44] forces laying mines will be
[4:46] attacked.
[4:47] I don't think that necessarily
[4:48] invalidates the wider ceasefire.
[4:51] It also should be expanded or
[4:52] considered to go after any of these
[4:54] small boats that are trying to seize
[4:55] or attack shipping going through the
[4:57] straits, like the capture of two MSC
[4:59] vessels, arguably in Iran's
[5:03] designated shipping routes.
[5:04] So an interesting way to treat
[5:05] those that are following their
[5:07] diktat.
[5:08] But the U.S. Navy, the U.S.
[5:10] military is definitely repositioned,
[5:12] rearmed, and ready to restart
[5:15] another campaign of strikes across
[5:18] Iran if necessary.
[5:19] But the blockade is having the
[5:21] desired effect, pressure on
[5:23] Tehran, but also pressure on its
[5:25] benefactors like Beijing.
[5:26] Speaking of that
[5:28] blockade, President Trump had a
[5:29] phone call with our colleague Martha
[5:30] McCallum yesterday afternoon where
[5:33] he talked about it.
[5:34] If we could pull a line out from
[5:35] that phone call, he said, quote,
[5:37] the blockade scares them even more
[5:39] than the bombing.
[5:40] They've been bombed for years, but
[5:42] the blockade, they hate.
[5:44] The president says it's costing Iran
[5:45] upwards of $500 a day to have that
[5:47] blockade.
[5:48] Do you think he's right with his
[5:50] assessment there?
[5:50] The Iranians are more afraid of
[5:52] that blockade than military bombing?
[5:55] Yes, and I think it has to do
[5:57] with the calculation of groups like
[5:58] the IRGC.
[5:59] It's not about dollars or the bucks.
[6:02] It's about power.
[6:03] And if they're not able to
[6:04] maintain their networks of, you
[6:06] know, coercion and brutality in the
[6:08] streets of Tehran, then they will
[6:09] be out of power.
[6:10] And so the blockade's taken away
[6:12] their finances, their ability to
[6:14] continue to arm and to keep the
[6:16] muscle on the streets, so to speak.
[6:18] But at the same time, it's
[6:19] alienating them from their biggest
[6:21] benefactors and allies like Beijing.
[6:25] You know, it's easy to, you know,
[6:26] when you listen to Caroline Lovett,
[6:27] you can get a sense of where they're
[6:29] coming from, looking at this.
[6:31] Obviously, they're realistic and
[6:32] they're saying, okay, these are the
[6:35] things that are going well.
[6:36] If you were to take a moment,
[6:38] though, and say, is there anything
[6:39] that concerns you right now?
[6:41] If you were looking at this,
[6:42] saying this very unpredictable
[6:45] situation where you do not have
[6:47] command and control in the
[6:49] Iranian leadership, that seems to
[6:51] me quite dangerous because you
[6:52] don't know who's making
[6:52] decisions.
[6:54] Well, actually, I think it's by
[6:56] design that they're starting to
[6:58] fracture because the only way you
[6:59] get to a better place with Iran is
[7:02] giving an opportunity for the regime
[7:04] to change its nature, to one, to
[7:05] live in peace with its neighbors,
[7:07] to include Israel, not threaten
[7:08] American citizens.
[7:09] And so they're going to fracture.
[7:11] They're going to have to have a
[7:13] messy period where they're going
[7:14] to change by themselves, hopefully,
[7:17] the Iranian people being the voice
[7:18] that matters most.
[7:20] And the blockade that's being
[7:21] enforced right now is making that
[7:23] focus inward in Iran.
[7:25] And again, not knowing who's in
[7:27] charge, I think this should have
[7:28] been anticipated.
[7:29] And it's part of the byproducts of
[7:31] applying the pressure, economic,
[7:34] as well as the military, the epic
[7:35] fury and the economic fury that's
[7:37] being brought to bear on them.
[7:39] So we'll go through this.
[7:40] The Iranian regime that comes out
[7:42] of this is hopefully one that is
[7:43] acceptable to American
[7:45] interests and not threatening
[7:46] American lives.
[7:48] Brent Sadler, we appreciate
[7:49] you being on to kick off our
[7:50] second hour here on America's
[7:51] newsroom.
[7:52] Thank you.
[7:52] Thank you.
[7:53] Thank you.
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