Trump just had a very weird, maybe too-honest interview. Take a look:

[0:00] Donald Trump got his ass kicked in the midterms, and so he ran into the warm embrace of Barry Weiss's new and improved 60 Minutes. [0:08] Let's watch some of what Trump had to say and see how CBS's new certified Mimbo correspondent did with the interview. [0:18] Tired of all these hot guys in tight T-shirts getting all the interviews. [0:21] The first exchange I want to play for you guys is about corruption. [0:25] There's a Forbes story that said that your net worth, maybe it's changed with the stock market recently, but your net worth went up by $3 billion. [0:33] Well, so did everyone. [0:34] Since you returned to- [0:35] Okay, you ready? [0:36] So here's- [0:36] Everyone's, my net worth did not go up by $3 billion. [0:40] Well, you should have had stock. [0:41] I should have- [0:42] You should have had stock. [0:43] I should have had stock. [0:44] Excuse me, so- [0:45] How did- [0:46] I devote- [0:47] How did it go up by $3 billion? [0:48] Well, let me explain. [0:49] I devote almost no time to my net worth. [0:52] I don't care. [0:52] I have a lot of money and far more than I ever thought I'd have. [0:56] And I guess it's gone up. [0:59] I don't even know. [1:00] I have no idea- [1:01] But companies that are invested in by people in foreign countries, it seems like you could just walk away from that and then, you know, and then you would not be accused of corruption, right? [1:10] I have. [1:11] But you have sons where they go around and they build buildings. [1:15] That's what they do. [1:15] That's what I did long before I became president. [1:18] I did it better than anybody. [1:19] Do you think the people who are investing in the company that you co-own with your sons, who are coming from foreign countries, who want things from your government, don't you think they think that they are buying influence? [1:32] I don't know, but that's true. [1:34] Look- [1:34] So, Ross got a lot of flowers for asking this question. [1:37] I think that Trump's answers were so bad that it was revealing. [1:42] But I'll be honest, it left me wanting more. [1:44] I can explain why, but what did you think? [1:45] Well, I mean, I think Ross did a good job. [1:48] I think that there was a overall question on strategy for the interview where it's like, do you stick on one topic the whole time and really get them? [2:00] Or do you move from topic to topic? [2:02] And Ross clearly had to pick a few topics. [2:04] I think he could have started, if he started there with that question, he would have had more time to do more follow-ups on the corruption. [2:13] This is just thinking from like a pure interviewer kind of way. [2:16] By the way, they had a lot of time. [2:17] They had almost an hour on the extended cut. [2:19] Because like when Trump said, oh, I don't spend any time on any of this stuff. [2:22] Like Trump's answer is basically, people are investing all my money for me. [2:26] I don't think about it. [2:27] I have enough money. [2:28] It's my son. [2:28] They want to build buildings. [2:29] What am I supposed to do? [2:31] And it's all just index funds, right? [2:33] That's where my money. [2:34] And Ross just had to have, what he could have said was like, what do you mean you spend no time on this? [2:39] You had a dinner where the people who bought the most of the Trump coin, the top Trump coin purchasers, got to sit at a dinner with you. [2:47] Other Trump coin purchasers got pardons from you. [2:51] Right. [2:52] You got a fucking jet from Qatar. [2:55] This is where it was a missed opportunity, I think. [2:57] Because like overall, I think he did a fine job. [2:59] I think everyone's grading on a curve. [3:01] Here, because we all assume like 60 minutes and Barry Weiss is kind of going to tilt it more conservative. [3:05] The first question is like, you made 3 billion more. [3:08] How? [3:08] It's like, well, we know how. [3:10] Let's just be like, hey, your crypto company, you guys sold 49% of it to the Emiratis in a secret deal before you became president. [3:18] How is that not a conflict of interest? [3:19] Or just get into the meme coins. [3:22] Like they never talk about the meme coins, the dinners you just talked about there. [3:25] They like Trump pivots it to the public stock trading, which, OK, sure. [3:32] But it's like, well, what about then the examples of Trump buying stock in companies before the U.S. invests in them, for example, like Intel? [3:40] The Trump's regulator approved an application for World Liberty Trust Company to be a bank. [3:47] That's another fruitful path to go down. [3:50] Yeah. [3:50] The key, you could have just done World Liberty Financial and nothing else. [3:54] Yes, you could have done that. [3:55] I mean, look, it was good. [3:57] Yes. [3:57] The answer was so bad. [3:58] Saying everyone made $3 billion was such a bad answer that it was sort of like defining for Trump. [4:04] I just I did want a little bit more. [4:05] You know, if we ever get Donald Trump on this show, John, you know, we'll not pull any punches on corruption questions. [4:10] Pot Save America, which is why you need to subscribe here on YouTube. [4:13] Please. [4:13] We're trying to build a progressive counterweight to all the right wing crap on YouTube. [4:17] And when you subscribe, you help us get good information to people. [4:19] You also help us grow and it's free. [4:21] So please subscribe. [4:22] Then there was this utterly bizarre exchange about getting into heaven. [4:26] Let's watch that. [4:27] Very Ross. [4:27] Very Ross. [4:28] Do you think you're going to heaven? [4:29] I hope so. [4:30] I don't want to go to hell. [4:31] Well, let's say you pass away. [4:35] You're entering the next life. [4:36] And all you have to do to enter paradise is feel love and forgiveness for James Comey, Nancy Pelosi, anyone who you have expressed hate for over the years. [4:51] Do you think you can do it? [4:52] Well, then I wouldn't be real, would I? [4:54] I mean, if I said to you, sure, the easy answer to that, oh, yes, I could forgive. [4:58] No, I don't think it's an easy question at all. [4:59] I want them to be extremely dishonest people, very bad people, very bad for our country. [5:03] I love our country far more than I can love people and people like that. [5:07] Is the answer no? [5:08] The answer is no. [5:09] I want to be honest. [5:10] You have had the most charmed and remarkable life of any American in my entire lifetime. [5:16] And you are telling me you couldn't find it in your heart to forgive some of your enemies after all that's been given to you? [5:25] I mean, it's such an easy answer. [5:26] All I have to do is say, yes, I can. [5:28] Again, I don't think it's an easy answer. [5:30] That's why I asked you. [5:31] Can I be honest? [5:32] Yes. [5:32] I probably cannot do that now because I do hate some of my enemies and I always will. [5:36] I think that was a remarkable, fantastic question from Ross. [5:41] And I know I am biased because like I am into the religious stuff. [5:45] Yeah. [5:45] But like what in the end, the way that Ross set that up was talking about Erica Kirk after Charlie Kirk. [5:51] Yeah. [5:51] Yeah. [5:52] And she said, I forgive. [5:53] And Trump got up and was like, I don't. [5:55] And Ross gave him the opportunity to be like, now, maybe that was a little bit of a joke. [5:59] But facts come through jokes. [6:00] And Donald Trump is, first of all, the guy, and at one point Trump says, oh, well, I am religious. [6:06] So, yes, I believe in heaven. [6:07] It's like, you're not religious because any type of Christianity, Catholicism, Protestants, any of it, any religion, like if you believe in a heaven, you believe that you must forgive your enemies. [6:20] That is like the most basic, that's it. [6:22] That's the Old Testament stuff he's doing here. [6:23] New Testament, it's all the Testaments, everything. [6:26] No, I mean his wrath. [6:27] Oh, his wrath. [6:28] Your absolute, yes, that is, it is very Old Testament. [6:30] But like, just unable to forgive. [6:32] And then he's like, well, then I wouldn't be real. [6:35] Well, then you're going to hell. [6:36] But are you happier that you're going to be real but not go to heaven? [6:40] Right. [6:40] You want to be mad about the seashells post instead of going to heaven? [6:43] Well, then Ross was like, when you're hanging out in purgatory. [6:46] Yeah. [6:46] That whole, it was like a very funny aside. [6:49] I think my reaction to watching that was like, first of all, I guess credit for honesty. [6:53] You know, like, it's just not giving any quarter on this one. [6:56] So if I'm Donald Trump and I'm asked that question, I'm like, fuck off with your hypothetical St. Peter. [7:02] Like, we'll cross that bridge when we get there. [7:04] You know what I mean? [7:05] You're just like, there's ways to just not have to deal with a question like that that's kind of weird and annoying. [7:10] But Trump wanted to be like, no, I hate these people. [7:12] You know what, the way to deal with that is to not make it a contradiction is just to say, I'm not really a religious guy. [7:19] I don't believe any, I believe once we die, we die. [7:21] And that's it. [7:22] So I don't really care. [7:22] Well, then you're giving up your whole shtick. [7:24] You remember when he's like, pretended to be a big fan of the Bible, said it was his favorite book. [7:29] I don't know if that shtick was well, was very believable in the first place. [7:33] You know, a lot of people buying that shtick. [7:34] Trump was also asked about whether he will pick a Republican candidate in 2028. [7:39] Here's his ringing endorsement of Vice President J.D. Vance. [7:43] In two years, someone else is going to be the Republican nominee for president. [7:47] I assume you're going to endorse someone for that. [7:50] Probably. [7:51] Not necessarily. [7:53] What would make you, what are you thinking about when you decide whether or not to endorse someone? [7:57] We have a tremendous bench. [7:58] I mean, I have so many people that I have great relationships with. [8:03] And, you know, not necessarily. [8:05] Who would be on the list besides the vice president? [8:08] Well, I think Marco's great. [8:10] Is he staying, by the way, as Secretary of State? [8:13] I think so. [8:14] I mean, he certainly loves it and he's doing great. [8:16] He's doing a fantastic job. [8:17] The ones they think about, but there are many others. [8:20] And I'd rather not mention their names. [8:22] There's some senators that are excellent. [8:24] I know them all. [8:25] I like them a lot. [8:26] So I may or may not get involved. [8:28] I don't know. [8:28] Maybe I'm better off not getting involved. [8:30] He just loves to torture J.D. Vance. [8:33] He's like a laser pointer with a cat just making him sprint around the room. [8:37] So my new theory is it is not just J.D. Vance that he wants to torture. [8:42] It is I don't think he wants a Republican to succeed him. [8:46] And you'd think that, like, obviously he does because it's, you know, continuation of the Trump legacy. [8:51] But if this thing goes on and some new Republicans are, you know, kicking the shit out of J.D. Vance in a primary and they're getting a lot of attention, does Donald Trump really want to risk the possibility that the next Republican president is more popular than him, is a younger, fresh face that's getting all the attention? [9:10] Or would he be like, yeah, you get whatever fucking Democrat they give and I'm going to be the head of MAGA forever and love the love? [9:17] I think it's very possible. [9:18] I also think he's just going to string this out as long as possible because he likes to play producer. [9:23] He likes the suspense. [9:24] He likes the power that comes with everyone kind of fighting over his endorsement. [9:29] And the Rubio piece is interesting because if Rubio really does want to run, he's going to have to leave relatively soon. [9:36] I mean, it could be next year, but it's got to be in the first half of next year. [9:41] And did you see in, I think it was Playbook, that there was a dinner that Stephen Miller convened after he became chief of staff with just Rubio and his wife and Bill Pulte? [9:51] It was like a very small. [9:53] Yeah, Pulte was floated for chief of staff too. [9:55] So it's like if you're Rubio and you're in that small, like, what's next meeting, it feels like he's going to stay, but I don't know. [10:01] Also, big news for us. [10:02] Katie Miller's quitting her podcast. [10:04] So all those downloads are coming this way. [10:06] Yeah, we should reach out to those listeners. [10:07] Tens of downloads. [10:08] We'll be heading our way for SpawnCon. [10:11] Big time here. [10:11] Please come on. [10:12] Ron DeSantis, Meatball Ron, is clearly going to run for president. [10:15] He was all over TV and the internet after the Republican loss, kind of explaining his theory of the case for why. [10:22] Ted Cruz is going to run every cycle until he dies. [10:25] Although, he's going to have a problem now. [10:27] He's going to have a tough race. [10:28] And a Democratic governor. [10:30] Gina. [10:30] Yeah. [10:31] Gina can appoint a Democrat to replace Ted Cruz. [10:34] Oh, that'd be so cool. [10:35] Oh, my God. [10:36] I know. [10:37] This is fun. [10:39] The Republican primary is going to be fucking awesome. [10:41] Yeah, it's going to be really good. [10:42] It's going to be fun to watch. [10:43] Pod Save America breaking news is brought to you by PDS Debt. [10:46] Are you tired of making monthly payments without seeing your balance go down? [10:49] PDS Debt can help you break free. [10:51] Minimum payments aren't designed to get you out of debt. [10:53] They're designed to keep you stuck. [10:55] PDS Debt is the way out. [10:57] They can reduce up to half of what you owe on credit cards, personal loans, and medical bills. [11:01] And it starts with a free 30-second assessment at pdsdebt.com slash crooked. 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[11:55] Do you think immigration hurt you in the midterms? [11:58] Do you think the crackdown hurt you? [11:59] I think it both helped and hurt. [12:01] I think I got an A-plus for closing up the border. [12:04] I get very high marks for getting the bad ones out. [12:06] But I get hurt because we also took people that had good jobs that created one violation for breaking of the law, [12:15] and that was that they came into the country illegally. [12:18] Now, there is a large part of the country that think that they should be put out, [12:23] and there's a large part of the country that think that they should be allowed to stay. [12:27] If they're good people working in a landscaping company or working in a hotel or doing something, right, [12:33] and in some cases paying taxes, [12:36] and there's a large group of people think that they should be allowed to stay. [12:40] So you think your deportation policy went too far? [12:43] It was too tough. [12:44] I think it might be too tough, yeah. [12:45] What would happen? [12:46] What does the deal look like with the Democrats? [12:47] I think ultimately that hurt me. [12:49] Well, the deal would be we would work something out, [12:51] and I think that's something that's actually doable. [12:55] So he's 100% right. [12:57] I mean, 58% of voters in exit polls said they think the Trump administration's actions on immigration have gone too far. [13:04] Latino voters went from 51% Democrats in 2024 to 64% Democrat this past cycle. [13:11] It's just that, like, that answer is so divorced from reality when you make Stephen Miller your chief of staff. [13:16] Yeah, and do you see that Roz had to jump in with a voiceover and was like, [13:21] this interview was an hour before he announced Stephen Miller as chief of staff. [13:28] He must have been so pissed. [13:29] So someone asked Mark Wayne Mullen, a reporter asked Mark Wayne Mullen about this, [13:33] because the result of that is Stephen Miller becomes chief of staff. [13:36] The right, Megyn Kelly, The Blaze, Tommy Lahren, all these people are like, no amnesty. [13:42] What the fuck? [13:43] The White House pushes back and says he never said the word amnesty. [13:46] Someone asked Mark Wayne Mullen, like, what's going to happen now? [13:49] And he says, well, Congress, quote, can look at DACA and figure out a way that these individuals can become maybe legal permanent citizens or something like this. [13:59] There is no such thing as legal permanent citizens. [14:03] There's legal permanent residents. [14:05] There's people who get citizenship. [14:07] That man is the homeland security secretary. [14:11] We made a tub of creatine, the homeland security secretary. [14:15] No idea what the fuck he's talking about. [14:18] None of these people know what the fuck they're talking about. [14:20] Last time there was a DACA. [14:22] Remember, there was a DACA deal up in 2018 that they tried to do. [14:25] Yes, yes. [14:25] That whole thing fucking fell apart. [14:27] We are benefiting from not having been born two weeks ago. [14:31] We have watched Donald Trump since 2015, 2016. [14:34] He has always tried to sound reasonable like this. [14:37] He has flirted with the idea of a grand bargain on immigration that would actually be quite popular, but that he knows his base would hate. [14:44] It's weird that he would doing it again, I guess, just get through the answer. [14:47] I think Trump, A, doesn't know enough about immigration policy, despite it being like the issue that helped him win two terms. [14:56] Doesn't know enough about it to fully understand all the details here. [15:00] Like, remember, and I think that he actually is more liberal on immigration than Stephen Miller, which is like most people. [15:06] I do too. [15:06] I think he hears from the rich people who don't, like his rich buddies are like, hey, look, we need these people to work at our hotels and restaurants and whatever. [15:13] Well, remember last year when Brooke Rollins, the agriculture secretary, convinced him to put out a statement saying that ICE would scale back enforcement against the farm workers and the people in the hospitality industry. [15:24] And then, I don't know, it was like two days later, Rollins had to, like, take back the statement and Trump, because Stephen, reportedly Stephen Miller got really upset and just overruled Trump. [15:34] Stephen Miller is the president now. [15:35] And, you know, Trump doesn't think that, but Stephen Miller is going to just, like, let Trump say whatever he wants to say. [15:42] And then Stephen Miller is the smart guy who knows policy and just going to do what Stephen Miller wants. [15:45] Always been his thing. [15:46] Which is why. [15:47] He's going to wield power behind the scenes. [15:48] If you want to do something on immigration and you're Democrats in the Senate, like, the only way you can do this is to use the leverage you have over government funding. [15:55] Yeah. [15:55] And oversight. [15:57] But, I mean, you know, look, obviously the biggest issue in the election was the economy. [16:01] 75% of voters in exit polls said the economy was, quote, not good. [16:05] 66% said tariffs hurt the economy. [16:07] So if Trump ended the Iran war, that would help the economy. [16:09] If he got rid of his own tariffs, that would help the economy. [16:12] I do think the continued immigration crackdown is ultimately going to hurt the economy a lot as well because he's going to be just, you know, arresting people who would be part of the labor force, doing construction, doing other things. [16:23] But, yeah, I agree with you. [16:24] I think Stephen Miller is going to block anything that seems reasonable. [16:27] I will say, too, I was thinking, like, in terms of oversight investigations, obviously the most popular investigations will be, like, a lot of the corruption and they should do that. [16:37] But in terms of what's actually could change something, like change policy, like digging into what's happening in some of these detention centers and some of these raids, like, the only way that they pulled back even a little bit was because of what happened in Minnesota. [16:53] And so, like, I think that it's pretty important for Congress to get involved. [16:58] Yeah, we had Yasmin Ansari on my panel with me and Ben Rhodes and Jason Crowe, and she's definitely super focused on this stuff and has been going to these facilities for a long time. [17:06] So I think it's going to be important. [17:07] Also getting the oversight scrutiny will be the war with Iran. [17:11] Trump was asked whether he would escalate the war. [17:14] Let's watch. [17:15] So you're not going to escalate the war now that the midterms are over? [17:18] Well, I'm not looking to. [17:18] I don't think there's any reason to. [17:20] I don't think there's any reason to. [17:21] Well, look, they still have nuclear material, right? [17:24] They have nothing. [17:25] It's buried under thousands of tons of rock. [17:28] So what's the deal in the end with them that gets the strait open? [17:32] Because it's important. [17:33] It's important to stress. [17:35] The strait is open. [17:36] We have ships going through. [17:37] But the ships that are going through are being babysat by a large U.S. military presence. [17:41] So how do we make a deal that gets that presence out of there? [17:45] Not very expensive. [17:46] We can just leave them there indefinitely. [17:48] At the end of this whole thing, those countries that we've protected are going to pay us back any and all costs that we've had for the war. [17:55] Because without us, they wouldn't exist. [17:57] Without us, Israel wouldn't exist. [17:58] So for what it's worth, the blockade, the escort mission costs $2 billion to $3 billion a month. [18:04] That's nothing. [18:04] Two carrier strike groups, 50,000 troops in the region. [18:08] Like, wildly expensive. [18:09] I'm sure it's probably news to the Qataris or the Saudis or anybody else that they're going to be paying for this. [18:14] I'm sure the Israelis love being told that they would not exist. [18:17] But I can't tell what he's going to do. [18:19] Like, he could be saying this and just escalate tomorrow. [18:21] The Iranians are not going to take a bad deal. [18:23] They know that they are in a better position politically now than they were before. [18:26] So it all feels so murky. [18:28] What did you make of Rubio's statements like the last couple of days, which seem like he's like, doesn't seem like a deal is close at all. [18:34] I don't think they're anywhere near a deal. [18:36] I think the Iranians are going to be like, we want the sanctions relief. [18:41] We want all this money. [18:42] Like, they're going to try to extract as much as they possibly can and just force a situation where Trump walks away. [18:47] And so it's like, well, we got the, you know, pickaxe mountain is under surveillance or whatever. [18:51] So we got them. [18:52] I mean, the problem with this explanation there is all the damage they did to the nuclear sites was done during the Midnight Hammer airstrikes. [18:59] And then they decided to go to war in a full scale version a year later. [19:03] And it's like, what did that do? [19:05] Is it possible you think that we're just going to spend two to three billion dollars a month in perpetuity? [19:11] And then Trump just pretends that the war is over? [19:13] For sure. [19:14] Because there's no. [19:14] I think this could be handed off to the next president. [19:16] Like, there's no good answer to this S-Corp mission. [19:19] Like, Trump would have to bite down hard and kind of agree to some future status quo where, like, the, I guess, the Iranians and the Omanis are, like, you know, charging a toll to everyone who goes through the straight home moves. [19:32] That's bad news. [19:32] Great. [19:33] Yeah, it's good. [19:33] Finally, Trump was asked about how he plans to use his pardon power when he leaves office. [19:38] Let's watch that. [19:39] Do you expect to issue a lot of pardons when you leave office? [19:42] Yes, I do. [19:43] Do you expect to pardon yourself? [19:44] I don't, but I certainly— [19:47] Do you think you have the power to pardon yourself? [19:49] I do. [19:50] But more importantly, I don't want to have good people that are serving this country and doing a great job spending the rest of their life, like I had to do for four years, defending myself, by radical left lunatics, by people that were very nasty and mean. [20:09] I intend to issue tremendous numbers of pardons. [20:12] In fact, I say oftentimes, anybody that got within a thousand miles of the Oval Office, because I don't want people spending the rest of their lives— [20:22] So will you pardon me? [20:23] I think I might. [20:24] I mean, we're very close to the Oval Office, right? [20:25] I think I might have to. [20:26] After this interview, I think I might have to. [20:28] Oh, Ross, you got him there. [20:31] I guess no surprise that he's going to pardon everybody. [20:34] It's interesting that he's just saying it all. [20:35] I know, because there was reporting that, like, it is said that Trump has been saying that, you know, if you come close to the Oval Office—and then he just says it. [20:43] Yeah. [20:43] So it's like, okay. [20:44] I wonder what the fee is going to be. [20:45] How much do you have to give him, the presidential library? [20:47] I just—I want to hear from some legal experts on state crimes. [20:53] Yeah. [20:53] Because that's where the action is here. [20:55] All these people that he's going to pardon that have been committing crimes, they better hope that they have not violated any state laws. [21:01] I agree. [21:02] Because you can't save them there. [21:02] I agree. [21:04] It's interesting. [21:06] I mean, Joe Biden made this a lot easier politically for Donald Trump. [21:10] Yeah. [21:10] And look, the real blame goes to the founders on this one, because having unconditional power, pardon power in the Constitution, I mean, it was always crazy. [21:19] But now we're realizing over the last several years just how crazy it was. [21:21] Would I love to call them lead-poisoned farmers? [21:25] Yes. [21:26] Founding fathers. [21:27] Yeah. [21:27] All right. [21:28] Well, that's it for us on this recap of CBS 60 Minutes. [21:31] The Mimbo did fine. [21:32] The Mimbo. [21:32] It didn't do bad so hard. [21:34] I do think it's, you know, kind of like post-CBS change adjusted. [21:39] I would have loved seeing like a steely-eyed Scott Pelley. [21:41] It doesn't absolve Barry Weiss or fucking 60 Minutes. [21:44] They still fucking, you know. [21:46] Yeah, they're bad. [21:47] But well done. [21:48] Good job. [21:48] Talk soon. [21:49] Pod Save America is a Crooked Media production. [21:51] Our show is produced by Austin Fisher, Saul Rubin, McKenna Roberts, and Michael Goldsmith, [21:54] with Ree Cherlin, Elijah Cohn, and Adrian Hill. [21:56] Our team includes Matt DeGroat, Ben Hefcoat, Jordan Cantor, Charlotte Landis, Kenny Moffitt, [22:00] Adam Lippert, Joseph Dutra, Desmond Taylor, Dan Farrell, David Tolles, Mia Kelman, Ryan [22:04] Young, and Naomi Single. [22:05] Our staff is proudly unionized with the Writers Guild of America East.