‘The Five’: Trump's latest news on Iran...

[0:00] President Trump calling off a third wave of strikes on Iran tonight saying that a deal is in place [0:06] and the signing will potentially occur over the weekend in Europe with J.D. Vance to be present. [0:12] Hopefully both sides will be satisfied. [0:14] I know you'll never be satisfied, but that's okay. That doesn't bother you at all. [0:20] We just made a great settlement of the war with Iran and we're going to be subject to finalization [0:29] of documents. We should get done over the next few days. Probably have a signing maybe in Europe. [0:35] Most importantly, we have a deal that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, which was the whole [0:40] purpose of what we had to go through to get this. So it was a very big thing. But we have a signing [0:49] soon and the documents are in pretty final shape. So we'll see. We'll see. Very good. [0:57] It should be done. That should be done pretty quickly. I won't be able to be there, but J.D. [1:04] will be there, vice president and some of the people. Steve Whitcoff did a great job. [1:11] And why is Trump so confident of a deal? [1:15] Because they've taken a pounding. They've taken a pounding like very few people could take [1:20] and they want to make the deal a lot more than I do. [1:25] So, Dana, we feel like we go down this road a lot. [1:28] Every Thursday night or Friday morning. [1:30] Yes, exactly. And I know that our complaints are part of part of it is due to our attention spans. [1:36] But I mean, you could argue that the longer it goes on, the worst condition Iran is in and Trump [1:43] knows that. So what do you make of this? [1:45] I think that is certainly true that Iran has to be hurting economically. But the regime itself is willing [1:51] to withstand a ton of pain and they don't care about their people. We know that president Trump cares [1:56] more about their people than they care about themselves. But so it feels like we've been [2:01] in this doom loop on the one yard line for three months. And I hope that it is true that they could [2:07] get a deal that if it meets those criteria that the president wants. Although then you get into the [2:14] difficult thing of confirming that they're not doing everything that they've always been doing. [2:19] And you get back to trust but verify, which I think will be a part of the document. We don't have [2:24] all of the details yet. So Iran is really good, too, about letting the president get out there [2:30] and say, we're very close. We've got a deal. And then they do something like shoot down a helicopter. [2:35] It's like, well, okay, now we're back in the doom loop again. But hopefully it will work out. [2:40] I can be optimistic as well. Why can't you? Because right now we're in control. I only wish I had an [2:47] analogy to use in this case, Paul. Yeah. So I think it would be helpful. We were talking about [2:55] this off the air, folks. I think it would be helpful to frame this in a particular way. And [2:59] from where I sit, this thing is a hostage negotiation, right? And the hostages are the Iranian people. [3:04] The perp in this instance is the IRGC and 4 million besieged thugs. That's the paramilitaries. [3:11] Now, we don't want to kill the hostage, obviously, here, right? But we got to get rid of the perp [3:16] somehow or other. I think we're past that. We've gotten to the point now that the best threat we [3:20] have is we're going to take Karg Island. What does that mean? That means essentially you're staging SWAT [3:24] right outside the door. And you're saying no food, no water. And we're right here, guys. We're ready [3:29] to come in. But we're not coming in yet because Karg Island is not the mainland. So where does that [3:33] leave you? This is why, in my estimation, that the administration has rightly sort of skewed or [3:40] shifted, I should say, the focus to purely the nukes. And that puts you then in a little bit of [3:47] a Hobson's choice. He's been saying it's just the nukes. That's all we care about. You then only [3:52] really have two options from where I sit. Number one, you're in an endless bombing campaign that is [3:59] informed by your intelligence, aerial photography, satellites, and what the Israelis and the Gulf [4:04] allies will give you. Just inevitably, that's going to fail at some point because you're not [4:10] going to have all the intel. They're going to have hidden sites like they always do. And they know [4:13] we're coming this time. This ain't like the last time when we came in with the ghost bombers. And [4:17] you can't have one of those bombers go down over Iran because the next day, Chinese, North Koreans, [4:22] Iranians, and Russians will all have that technology. So then what's left? Trust but verify. Boots on the [4:28] ground of a sort, but it has to have real muscle. The UN is not that muscle. They've never been [4:35] trustworthy on this issue. The Iranians obviously are not. They have, what, 11 bombs worth of enriched [4:42] uranium ready to go, a missile that could go 2,000 miles that they weren't supposed to have. They can't [4:47] be trusted. And so we either have to accept that this is about as good as we're going to get, or we're [4:54] going to have to put real muscle, boots on the ground, behind the inspections. Otherwise, [4:59] this is going to go on forever. See, I told you you was going to mention [5:03] Hobson's choice. Yeah, who is Hobson? Who is Hobson? [5:06] You're asking me? I just looked that up. Come on. [5:10] So Jesse, you know, one of the benefits of Trump is he keeps the end game to himself. It drives his [5:16] adversaries crazy, but it causes everybody here to speculate, you know, and then that makes us [5:21] impatient. And then we get jaded, and then we start watching sports. Next thing you know, [5:26] we're drinking and using narcotics, and then we end up homeless and living in Seattle. [5:30] What is your take on this latest development? My take is Trump is such a tease, and I fall for it [5:37] every time. But this time, I think it's real. This time, I think it's real. The last two days, [5:43] I think woke the Iranians up. Greg, remember when you got beat up in high school? [5:47] Never happened. You'd be getting hit for about a month straight every single day. Then the bully [5:54] would stop, and he'd take a break. That's the ceasefire. And then all of a sudden, after a couple [5:58] of months, boom, boom. And it hurts more the second time, because you remember how painful it was. And [6:07] that's what happened. We resumed major combat operations for the last 48 hours, and that was [6:12] it. Plus, Trump's tongue. He basically said, we're going to keep bombing them until they sign. [6:18] They didn't like that. And then he said, do you know where the gay ayatollah is? He goes, [6:23] I'm not going to tell you if I know or not, but I know. And then he said, oh, you know what? [6:30] Openly speculating about seizing Karg Island. He'd never really done that before. And then apparently, [6:35] he called them last night and said, we're going to hit you tonight, and we're going to hit you here, [6:39] and you're going to hit you here, and there's nothing you can do about it, because we own the [6:43] skies. It's not over till it's over. Someone said that. The fat lady hasn't sung yet, because until [6:49] you deal with the dust, it's war. So you can sign a document. You can open up the strait, [6:56] but until we watch the dust get downgraded to zero, the war is still on. Because I think what's [7:03] happening now is you're going to have the IAEA have to sit there and see and witness them take this [7:09] thing down to zero. We have spies in the Atomic Energy Agency, so we'll see it, and we can see it [7:15] from the Space Force. But until that happens, this war is still on. But right now, it looks good, [7:21] and I'm pretty happy with it. The market loves it. Oils down into the 80s. The market was up, what? [7:26] 900 points today? I think the market knows what's happening. And if JD is going to sign this thing in [7:32] Europe, he better be back next week, because he's on this show, and he has to do The View. So hurry it up. [7:38] I think he's more worried about The View than Iran. What's more dangerous? Well, they could sit on him. [7:44] So, Jessica, do you agree with everything Jesse said? It looks good? [7:48] Cautiously optimistic? He did not say cautiously. [7:51] No, I'm cautiously. We've been down this road before. [7:55] At least 37 times, actually. We have been down this road of we're almost at a deal. [8:01] I'm glad that you said that we're in a war, though, because the president says that we're not, [8:06] so that Congress can't assert their right to actually decide whether we should go to war or [8:10] not. So I'm glad you've broken with him on that. It is, though, Greg, the first time that you have [8:13] actually told the truth about the conversation in the green room that you were having with Paul [8:18] for the setup. But I have a different hostage to bring to the table, which is the Strait of Hormuz. [8:24] So, yes, the end game is, of course, you want to take care of the nuclear dust and [8:28] Iranian aspirations to have a nuclear weapon. But the Strait of Hormuz is the linchpin of this, [8:34] and it has been since Iran predictably closed it. And that's really what needs to get open. [8:40] I mean, the longer that this goes on, the more damage that we see. I mean, issues like a couple [8:45] days ago, U.S. strikes took out three Indian nationals who were on a tanker that was going [8:52] through. We can't have stuff like that happening. It makes people who are already angry at us even [8:58] more angry at this point. In terms of how Iran is faring, of course, it is not all sunshine and [9:05] roses, and they're having the best time, and there's a huge economic toll, and there has been [9:09] a military toll to some degree. But I think it's quite clear. [9:12] I'm being, I know what you're doing. I'm letting you condition this stuff with the [9:19] greatest words. You know, a little bit here, a little bit there. They don't have an air force. [9:23] But then, I mean, Laura Ingraham even a couple nights ago asked on her show. She had a guest on [9:28] who said if we obliterated them, then how are they striking us? They have been able to rebuild [9:33] and rearm certainly faster than we thought could happen. There's been. There's some missiles and [9:38] drones. We can't stop them all. That's the only card they have left. Yes, we have no problem. [9:42] Everything has gone exactly to plan. You're absolutely right. I didn't say that. I'm just trying to. [9:45] Also, no, but you're trying to. Keep you on the path to truth, Jessica. [9:49] I walk alone on my path. And what I'm saying is rooted in what reporters from the region are putting out [9:57] there and even questions that some of Trump's biggest supporters are asking. We also know on the [10:02] domestic level that Donald Trump needs this deal done. He doesn't have the appetite for the war [10:06] himself anymore. He's said as much. The Republican Party doesn't. They're breaking with him more than [10:12] they have before because they have concerns at home. People are saying it's $4 gas. Democrats are [10:16] now up 10 points on the generic ballot. His approval is in the mid-30s. Inflation 4.2 percent outpacing [10:22] wages. The toll of this war is too much for him to bear electorally and for what he's interested [10:30] anymore. And so maybe we get to a deal from this, but it's just a memorandum of understanding [10:35] at this point. And Iran and Israel were key linchpins to making this come to fruition are [10:41] out there signaling that they're not interested in what at least is being proposed for Saturday [10:46] in Europe for J.D. Vance. I guess he misses the UFC fight, though, which is. [10:50] I think everybody. Well, can you get that? You think he's going to sign Saturday and get back? [10:55] Yeah, he'll get that. I think Trump was like, I would rather go to the UFC fight than stand [10:59] around here. Well, they probably won't sign this. Same. Well, everybody wants this finished, [11:04] especially the Gulf States. But no one is really rallying to the Iranian side except the American [11:09] left. And the difference between Democrats. The Chinese? Well, obviously. Same. Oh, sorry. [11:15] Same. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot. I missed my cue on that one. Hey, look, let's remember something [11:20] else, too. This is the first administration to actually push this to a reckoning. Exactly. [11:26] This is the thing that drives me crazy. Democrats and media do not include the context. [11:31] When they talk about economic figures, they never bring up context. When they talk about Iran, [11:35] they forget 50 years where they caused terrorism around the world, where they threatened to blow up [11:41] America. But that's why we had them in a deal that Trump ripped up. We had enriched uranium at 3.5% [11:46] levels and then it got up to 60% after he ripped up the deal in 2018. Will you say thank you after [11:52] this is over and you get a deal and you get the uranium? Would you say thank you? To who? [11:58] To the president and Pete Hegseth? If you annihilate most of their military and get the dust, [12:03] will you say thank you? All right. You won't say thank you? Wow. That's dishonest. [12:08] Be a good girl. I guess we know what side she's on, America. Yeah. [12:11] Yeah. I did it. [12:12] Hey, Ron Tarloff.