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"Well, the high-stakes showdown with Iran could be reaching a breaking point. President Trump eviscerating the terror regime's lackluster counterproposal to the latest U.S. peace proposal. Here's what 47 said earlier. A lot of people said, well, does he have a plan? Yeah, of course they do have the..."
[0:00] Well, the high-stakes showdown with Iran could be reaching a breaking point.
[0:04] President Trump eviscerating the terror regime's lackluster counterproposal to the latest U.S.
[0:09] peace proposal.
[0:10] Here's what 47 said earlier.
[0:12] A lot of people said, well, does he have a plan?
[0:16] Yeah, of course they do have the best plan ever.
[0:18] Very simple plan.
[0:19] I don't know why you don't say it like it is.
[0:21] Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
[0:23] And they give us a stupid, it's a stupid proposal.
[0:27] Nobody would take it, although Obama would have taken it, Biden would have taken it.
[0:30] What they took was far worse.
[0:32] You have the moderates and you have the lunatics.
[0:35] And I think the moderates are more respected.
[0:39] The lunatics want to fight till the end.
[0:41] For the time being, the ceasefire remains in place.
[0:44] It's unbelievably weak, I would say.
[0:48] I would call it the weakest right now.
[0:51] After reading that piece of garbage they sent us, I didn't even finish reading it.
[0:55] They said, I'm not going to waste my time reading it.
[0:58] I would say it's one of the weakest right now.
[1:00] It's our life support.
[1:03] And leave it to the Dems to always root for America's failure in the conflict with Iran,
[1:08] just as a way to try to stick it to President Trump.
[1:12] This conflict has been a massive disaster.
[1:16] And Donald Trump himself is an embarrassment on the world stage.
[1:19] What is a president willing to give up?
[1:22] What are the Iranians willing to accept?
[1:24] And they're now in a better position than they were, ironically, several months ago.
[1:30] The regime negotiated, also points out why it was so stupid to start this war in the first place.
[1:35] It's actually put Iran in a stronger position, at least for now.
[1:40] Oh, Gillianne, can you please help make sense of this and why the Democrats,
[1:44] or how the Democrats can say that Iran's in a stronger position now?
[1:48] Well, they're clearly not.
[1:49] Ask the IRGC how they're feeling.
[1:52] Three short months ago, they had a Navy.
[1:54] They had endless stockpiles of missiles.
[1:57] They had copious amounts of drones.
[2:00] Now they are militarily degraded, economically decimated.
[2:05] Several dozen of its leaders are as dead as the 42,000 peaceful protesters that they killed.
[2:10] And the list goes on.
[2:12] And the president holds all the cards.
[2:14] The U.S. is in a very strong position here, Emily, because this is what leadership looked like.
[2:18] We have a commander-in-chief who's not going to do what other presidents did,
[2:23] coddle, capitulate, and cave to the state sponsor of terror, the largest in the world.
[2:29] The calls for death to America and death to Israel were so loud
[2:32] that there's a guy that won't ignore it anymore.
[2:34] He won't look the other way at this inhumane state sponsor of terrorism who has killed more
[2:41] Americans than pretty much any other country.
[2:44] Wake up, everybody.
[2:45] And look, Jack Reed saying that is just false.
[2:48] You're allowed to say what you want on TV.
[2:50] He's not under oath.
[2:51] In fact, when he's interviewing witnesses on his committees in the United States Senate,
[2:56] the witnesses are under oath.
[2:57] Jack Reed and Cory Booker never are.
[2:59] So they have no incentive to ever tell the truth.
[3:01] How in the world, by any measure, is Iran in a better place now?
[3:05] Just two weeks ago, or last week, they tried to shoot at two of our destroyers
[3:09] and couldn't even come close.
[3:10] They were like a kid at a carnival game with a water pistol.
[3:13] So to say Iran's in a better position, Iran was in a much better position when Barack Obama
[3:18] was giving them billions of dollars, pallets of cash.
[3:20] They were in a much better position when John Kerry went over there to negotiate the JCPOA.
[3:25] They were in a much better position when Israel was on its heels.
[3:28] They were in a much better position when the Gulf states weren't helping us out.
[3:33] And so by any measure, we are winning.
[3:37] But war takes time.
[3:38] And I would remind my people, I would remind my friends who have objections to this war,
[3:44] peace through strength also necessitates the strength part as well.
[3:49] Last point, because Cory Booker, New Jersey, what do we have, 10 million people now in my home
[3:54] state?
[3:54] I'm a Jersey girl forever.
[3:55] We can't do better than this guy.
[3:57] He's so jealous of Donald Trump that it makes him zealous about a war that the U.S. is winning.
[4:03] He represents the United States of America.
[4:05] He ought to behave like that when he's on a Sunday show.
[4:07] Look at him.
[4:08] He ran for president in 2020.
[4:11] Cue the laughter.
[4:12] He ran for president.
[4:14] And you know how many electoral votes he got?
[4:16] Zero.
[4:17] The same number as Kamala Harris, the same number as all these people who are jealous
[4:22] of Donald Trump because he's the president and Cory Booker is not.
[4:25] What is his body of work?
[4:27] What is he doing that he's giving China and North Korea aid and comfort to insult our commander
[4:33] in chief and our president when he's on his way to China to show who the real superpower is?
[4:39] Zero.
[4:39] The same number of hairs on his head, Kennedy.
[4:41] Yes.
[4:42] Talk to us about, too, the—
[4:43] And he also was a lackluster tight end at Stanford, I'm told.
[4:47] Oh.
[4:47] I know.
[4:48] That explains a lot, doesn't it?
[4:49] Exactly right.
[4:49] Yes, it does.
[4:50] Talk to us about the future for us and for Iran, like what we could expect, because it
[4:56] seems like the Democrats are expecting either instantaneous results and instant gratification with zero
[5:02] forgiveness for movement two steps forward, one step back, and also it seems like they're
[5:06] unprepared for a stronger alliance with the Gulf states, with the United States, which is what is
[5:12] happening.
[5:13] It's interesting.
[5:14] You're absolutely right about that, and I think that the United States and Israel are looking at
[5:18] this in two very different ways.
[5:20] Israel is more hawkish here.
[5:23] They want to extract the uranium from the ground with or without a deal, and they've been
[5:30] telegraphing that pretty clearly.
[5:31] And I think if you look at what the United States is doing, they have a more global strategy.
[5:38] And I don't mean that in terms of the planet.
[5:40] I mean in terms of pulling out and wanting to make sure that there is peace going forward.
[5:45] And, you know, this is sort of a multilayered part of the president's foreign policy.
[5:50] And I'm one of those people—I don't like war.
[5:52] I don't like conflict.
[5:53] I think the quagmire that you could get yourself into very quickly oftentimes isn't worth it.
[5:58] But I will give the president enough grace to say, if this is something where it started
[6:04] with the Abraham Accords that he is only going to add on to, and it is going to change the face of
[6:11] especially energy policy in the Middle East to make us all safer, and to make countries like Iran that
[6:17] wants to cooperate with their neighbors, if it is going to help people who were displaced by the
[6:23] revolution in the late 70s, if they can go back to their homeland, then those are all net benefits.
[6:29] And it also—if peace and prosperity are the gold, and that is the American foreign policy
[6:35] that everyone should stand behind.
[6:37] And I think we have to be very careful of not demonizing everything the president does,
[6:42] because it also comes off being very anti-American.
[6:45] And you have to be able to—if there are wins, you have to be able to grant those if you ever
[6:51] want to build upon them if Democrats regain Congress and, at some point, the presidency.
[6:57] Especially with our military servicemen and women fighting over scenes and in harm's way.
[7:01] Charlie, I have a question, and it's on that tack, because there's a fissure, frankly,
[7:06] between the Republican Party, where many say that Israel has different objectives,
[7:11] and therefore we should not have yoked ourselves to our ally.
[7:15] But to Kennedy's point, don't we have a shared interest in obliterating,
[7:20] to use Hillary Clinton's terminology about Iran, a sworn enemy that the can was just being kicked
[7:26] down the road from prior administrations?
[7:27] Well, I think one of the dumbest things that we have heard from some quarters on the right
[7:33] of Trump supporters, or former Trump supporters, is this idea that Trump is acting at the behest
[7:38] of Israel.
[7:39] It's absurd, as if America doesn't have any interest in the Middle East in terms of oil
[7:46] and things like that.
[7:47] It's absurd.
[7:49] Donald Trump—if you—anybody knows anything about Donald Trump, you know, he's not going
[7:53] to be working at the behest of anybody other than, I think, the United States of America.
[7:56] But I think Kennedy also makes a really, really great point.
[8:00] And you're against war.
[8:02] I'm against war.
[8:03] You know who else is against war?
[8:05] Donald Trump is against war.
[8:06] He doesn't want to do this.
[8:07] He recognized that this was a real problem, and it needed to be addressed, so much so that
[8:12] he was willing to do it in the middle of an election year, which there's not a single
[8:16] politician in our lifetime who has ever had the guts to do something like that.
[8:20] And he did it because he actually believed in it.
[8:23] And one of the things that I think gets lost in all of this is, like you say, if they're
[8:30] going to build on the Abraham Accords and actually solve a problem that has been a nightmare
[8:35] for our country for decades, especially over the past 25 years, where we have been embroiled
[8:41] in some unending wars, if it ends the incentive for future politicians to get involved in never-ending
[8:50] wars in the Middle East, I give him all the grace period that he needs in order to accomplish
[8:56] that.
[8:56] Because I don't, I trust this guy way more than I trust any of the buffoons that might
[9:02] follow him and get us into another one of these stupid wars.
[9:06] Well, you know, it's interesting because we have this back and forth with Democrats and
[9:13] Republicans.
[9:14] Obviously, I'm not listening to any of these Democrats who are trumpeting this, you know,
[9:18] Iran is in a better position.
[9:19] It's just, it's nonsense.
[9:20] And I think most people know that.
[9:22] But I am tuning into various voices who are against the war.
[9:25] I'm like, sell me on this.
[9:27] Because to me, it looks like the U.S. is in a very advantageous position.
[9:31] So I want to hear from these people, maybe like-minded people, maybe people on the right,
[9:35] but they haven't sold me.
[9:36] But you know who has?
[9:37] I have this app on my phone.
[9:38] I listen to radio stations all around the world.
[9:41] It's great.
[9:42] The world and in Europe, they have a rosier view of this war than you would expect.
[9:49] And the headline that jumps out, multinational coalition seeks to secure Hormuz.
[9:55] What are they talking about?
[9:56] The U.S., Israel?
[9:57] No, it's France and the U.K.
[9:59] They're in there now.
[10:00] Add that to Saudi Arabia, UAE.
[10:02] I just wrote these down.
[10:03] These are all helping out the U.S. effort in the region.
[10:07] Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait.
[10:09] So if you look at the way the world is reacting to this instead of U.S. politics,
[10:15] you see it's a lot closer to what Donald Trump, his description of what's happening there.
[10:20] And the, you know, this back and forth, it's to be expected, right?
[10:27] But look what is going on.
[10:32] And, you know, that's the way it's proceeding.
[10:38] Yeah, a multinational coalescence.
[10:41] And to underscore your point, this is why the Secretary of War said
[10:44] his biggest adversary are the Democrats on the Hill.