'The Five' on the latest from US-Iran peace talks

[0:00] President Trump touting progress on his peace talks with Iran and saying it's all working out [0:05] very well. I think Iran, I can say on a sort of a different scale, is in its own way working out [0:11] very well. Maybe it's hard to say just as well, but maybe almost just as well. And we're doing [0:17] very well in terms of negotiating a fair and reasonable deal. But no, if Iran doesn't [0:25] live up to their agreement or if they're not behaving, I will do what I have to do. [0:31] But as long as they respect us, we're not going to have any trouble. [0:35] Trump's optimism comes as J.D. wraps up a second day of negotiations in Switzerland. He claims that [0:40] Iran will let nuke inspectors back in and the terror regime could buy American crops with billions of [0:46] unfrozen assets. But all that's lost on the Dems, who are now the party of forever wars. [0:53] That's like giving somebody credit for literally an arsonist starting a fire and getting credit for [1:00] running out of the burning building. This president has led this nation into a disaster. [1:06] We have surrendered our power. We have capitulated to the enemy and they now are mocking us. [1:13] What we've got as a result of that war, which President Trump was the first to [1:17] take the bait on. What is a strength in Iran in terms of its geopolitical stature in the region? [1:24] So, Charlie, this is interesting because there's a lot of, we see a lot of criticism [1:29] and you have the neocons who want a regime change, ground troops, forever wars. [1:37] But people say you shouldn't have done this and now you haven't done enough. [1:40] And then you have the media trying to figure out who they should be backing in the criticism, [1:44] but they don't care as long as it's criticism. [1:47] Yeah, as long as it's criticism against Donald Trump. Whereas in Trump's party is the only like [1:53] reasonable debate that's going on anywhere. But this thing about how trying, you know, [1:59] they're so desperate to try to compare this deal to the deal with Obama. And you have Susan Rice [2:06] talking about how Iran is somehow strengthened now and accuses Trump of having been the first person [2:13] to take the bait, which to me, I think is her way. She's constantly trying to rewrite history, [2:20] constantly trying to revise the very, very bad deal that Obama gave us. And so then you have the New [2:27] York Times piling on trying to claim that the situation now that we're in at the beginning of [2:32] the 60-day period of negotiation is no different from where we were at the beginning of the war, [2:39] which is total BS. You mean it's not changed at all in that their nuclear program has been demolished, [2:46] their missile program has been decimated, their top 40 leaders have all been annihilated, [2:52] and they want to act like this is already a failure. And I honestly don't believe that [2:59] normal people are buying it. I think a lot of people are sort of, they're tired of the wars, [3:04] they're tired and they don't like gas prices going up. But I think most people are open to the idea [3:09] that actually Trump is making a negotiation that could wind up being smarter than any of his [3:16] predecessors. Yeah, changed the negotiation stance. Dana, what Charlie said reminds, it's like an [3:21] analogy of like Iran is like the uncooperative drunk guy at a bar who steals your phone. He could give [3:28] it back or he could get his ass kicked and then give it back. Either way, it's the same outcome. [3:35] It's just that Iran now just got his ass kicked and they're at the same place, but worse. [3:39] Well, now, but he does it every Saturday night. Yes. And he's limping now because he's been somewhat [3:44] wounded, but we also don't know what he's got in his pockets. And so, I just, can I go back to one [3:49] thing? It's interesting to see Susan Rice on television. Yes. Because during the Biden administration, [3:54] she was in charge of the domestic policy council, right? She had been national security council under [3:58] Obama, right? And then she was, she was with Biden. You couldn't get her to do an interview during the [4:05] Biden years and the Biden border crisis. There was none of that. And where she, I would love to know, [4:12] did you have interactions with Biden? That's very interesting to me that all of a sudden she wants [4:16] to come back and be an expert on all of this. You once called me an optimistic pragmatist. So I would [4:23] like to look on the bright side, but I also think I reserve the right to be skeptical about all of this. [4:28] I think the we'll see is what the MOU is supposed to be. It's supposed to be, let's wait 60 days and [4:35] see, which is why I think it's a little hard to swallow that this is the best. This is amazing. [4:40] This is so great. Isn't this amazing? This is so terrific. I'm like, well, wait, hold on a second. [4:44] Two months ago, you wanted people to defend the president's decisions and they did, people who [4:50] support him. And now you want them to completely change their worldview and everything they've said for [4:56] the last 60 days and that they're jerks and awful and they're going to be cast aside and out of the [5:01] party because they don't agree with him now after 24 hours of trying to be spun on this deal. [5:05] And to me, I just wish that they would give everybody a minute. [5:09] Yeah. If you are going to ask for 60 days from the Iranians, let's take it. [5:13] Let's take a minute. Everybody take a beat. Go to your corners. Have a second. Now, that will depend also [5:19] on Iran doing the right thing because I don't for a second believe that there was some like a lone [5:23] Hezbollah fighter shooting rockets into Israel over the weekend. Those things are done at the top. [5:29] And Iran wants nothing more than there to be more daylight between the United States and Israel. [5:33] And they're working really hard at that. So I don't love that. Epic Fury was a success, [5:40] but it will only be an ultimate success if they can complete this thing or we'll finish it one way [5:46] or the other. And I think it's just way too early to know how it's going to turn out. [5:49] Good point. You know, Jesse, they keep asking Trump, was it worth it? Well, [5:53] it's been 110 days. We're supposed to get all of the enriched uranium, which I think would make it [5:59] an achievement in 110 days. You have their missiles are depleted. Their capacity to enrich [6:06] uranium should be thwarted for decades. The real risk of proliferation is gone for a long time. [6:14] It seems to me that was 110 days. Well, worth it. Ahoy, matey. Yeah. [6:20] I have a little dog down here pulling on my shorts. [6:24] I was the Strait of Hormuz over the weekend. [6:28] Yeah, Iran lost the war. They surrendered. And now they're letting the United States and the UN [6:32] in to look at their sites and their uranium and then they're going to destroy it. Do I need to keep [6:38] talking? I mean, that sounds pretty good. Very funny. But Dana's right. If they do say at the end [6:45] of 60 days, go F yourself, all the uranium is buried. They can't touch it. So does it even really [6:51] matter? And so now you have people coming out like what? Booker and Rice. We don't take them [6:56] seriously. They're buffoons. We only put their sound bites in the segment for friction. The new program [7:03] is destroyed. The military 85% destroyed. And the Straits open. Greg's gone out there peacefully. [7:09] Yes. He hasn't been attacked. Iran's bluffed their way the last 10 days. There's been no tankers [7:15] that have been attacked. We're actually going to wrap this up hopefully pretty soon and we can move on to [7:20] Cuba. My banking buddy told me that after we topple Castro, we're going to be able to buy 100 acres of [7:28] pristine Cuban coastline for like 50 Gs. Is that insider trading or? Not insider trading. That's [7:35] just hurt on the street. How does this contribute to this segment? What I'm saying is Donald Trump [7:41] is crushing it on the world stage. We now have Latin America and the Middle East under our thumb. [7:47] We are now OPEC and the Chinese economy is struggling and Putin's losing this war in Ukraine. [7:52] J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio are looking really good. Trump's delegated beautifully. They've gotten [8:00] experience, respect, stature. Meanwhile, Harris and Newsom, what are they, cackling and selling [8:07] knee pads? Forget about that. But Dana is right. The Jewish question is going to be a situation with [8:15] this deal because the population of Israel, they want Netanyahu to go hard in Lebanon. And he's getting [8:22] probably trounced if he doesn't go hard. He's up for reelection. And the Iranians know that. So [8:29] anytime they want to try to rupture our alliance with Israel, they push a button, a rocket comes out [8:36] of Beirut, and then we have to deal with the Iranians and Israel. And we know that's not very fun to [8:42] babysit. But that's what's the good part about being a world superpower is you got the world's currency [8:49] reserve and you got $1.5 trillion Pentagon budget. So it's in their court. It's like [8:54] Mary Poppins' bag. Exactly. The banks can open or close and the bombs can get dropped or sold. [9:02] Yeah. And, you know, Jessica, whenever we think about North Korea, we always go like, [9:06] wouldn't it be great if we got to them before they were able to get a nuclear weapon? This was [9:11] the opportunity to do that with Iran. So what's the problem? Finally, somebody, [9:15] instead of just like mowing the lawn, flattened the garden. Sure. I don't know about flattening [9:25] the garden or what kind of coat rack Jesse just pulled out of his bag. But you're not also supposed [9:30] to say Jews instead of Israel. They're separate things. Just say Israel. No, I'm just giving you [9:39] some, I'm giving you some Jew advice. Don't conflate those things. [9:44] Okay. Now, too flattener. [9:47] Please excuse me while I show you my totenkopf. What are you talking about? The tattoo is bad, [9:53] obviously. But you, well, never mind. [9:56] Enough. Go ahead. [9:57] Okay. I would rather people be talking than not talking. So this is a net positive. Obviously, [10:04] you know, the Iranians are out there with their PR from the weekend saying we walked away from the [10:09] table. When in reality, they were at the table. I think the Qatari and Pakistani statement, [10:13] you know, suggests that there was some real headway made. But there were only a couple of [10:18] item lines in the MOU that actually had any specificity to them. And both of them are not [10:25] going particularly well so far. So Jesse says the strait is open. But they closed the strait two or [10:31] three times in the last couple of days, showing that they can still do that. CNBC said, [10:35] how open is open? I don't know. That's a big question. And it's also a lot fewer tankers [10:40] than what you need to be able to getting through to get the world's economy back going. But the [10:46] biggest win for Iran in this is this. I think everybody realizes it's open. Just go ahead [10:54] and ignore the fact that Iran closed it when it felt like it and then reopened it. [10:58] So they said they closed it. But them saying they closed it and it's been closed. Only three [11:02] tankers. But CNN asked a valuable question. What are you talking about? 65? Okay. The biggest win [11:08] in the MOU, the thing that aggravates the strongest supporters of the president the most is Iran being [11:16] able to sell oil on the open market, essentially rolling back 40 years of sanctions. I mean, even [11:22] entities that were sanctioned under this global terrorism sanction regulations, meaning that that money can [11:27] be used directly to fund terrorism. And that was our big problem, why we went in to do this. So we [11:33] need to stop the funding of proxies like Hezbollah. It is estimated they will get $5 billion a month [11:38] from being able to sell that oil on the open market. And there is a reason that Democratic and [11:43] Republican presidents for four decades didn't want that to be the case. And so if you look at those two [11:48] factors, that Iran is still in control of the strait and that they are now making money day one off of [11:55] this MOU, that is genuine cause for concern. Also talking about what you might get out of the- [12:01] They're still losing money every day. What, $400 million? Was that what the estimate was? [12:06] No, no. And Charlie's saying, oh, I think normal people are with Donald Trump about this. [12:11] 69% say the war wasn't worth the cost, which is estimated $132 billion. [12:18] Did you listen to why J.D. said that they lifted the sanctions on the oil? Did you hear what he said? [12:23] You tell me. [12:24] No, no. Tell me. Tell me what you heard him say. The rationale for lifting the oil sanctions. [12:29] Oh, so that the money can go to support the people inside there instead of giving them [12:33] the regime change that they would- That's not what he said, Jessica. [12:35] You tell me what J.D. said. [12:36] He said it gives us more visibility in where the money's going. [12:39] Okay. [12:40] Because right now it's on the black market. [12:41] So we could just like track it right to Hezbollah instead of it going in the secret corridor? [12:45] You actually can because now it's not on the black market and you can see it go through our banks. [12:50] It's not on the black market and you can see it go through our banks. [12:55] Not everything has to be race about race, Jessie.