'The Five': Democratic socialists aren't sugarcoating their agenda anymore

[0:00] The Democratic Socialists aren't sugarcoating their agenda anymore. [0:03] The DSA's new co-chair laying out their once-fringe wish list [0:08] where everything is on the table. Watch here with Janet Breen. [0:11] Just give me sort of a true or false on these. [0:13] Abolish the Senate. [0:16] True. [0:17] Okay. Replace the presidency and Supreme Court as we now know them. [0:22] Yep. [0:23] Abolish ICE. [0:26] Absolutely. [0:27] Abolish borders and give amnesty to anyone currently in the U.S. illegally. [0:32] As a long-term plan, yep. [0:34] Defund the Pentagon. [0:37] Absolutely. [0:38] Abolish prisons, at least in large part. [0:43] Yeah, again, as part of a long-term program, yeah. [0:46] Okay, so no prisons. [0:47] Government or public ownership of most large corporations. [0:52] Yeah, absolutely. [0:53] And the DSA is becoming a force to be reckoned with, [0:57] growing to 120,000 members nationwide. [1:00] But while the socialists are winning over Democrats, [1:03] their platform is a major turnoff for independent voters. [1:06] Among Democrats, this is that Fox poll, [1:08] a majority have a favorable view of socialism. [1:12] Step outside the Democratic Party. [1:13] It's a totally different world. [1:15] Look at independence, socialism, deeply unpopular there. [1:18] So is that a vulnerability for Democrats [1:21] that would keep them from capitalizing on Trump's obvious weaknesses here? [1:24] And with 99 days until the midterms, [1:27] President Trump hitting the trail in Michigan, [1:29] pitching common sense versus communism. [1:31] We're running against communists. [1:34] Now, this is great. [1:35] They want to take your houses. [1:37] They want to do things that nobody's ever even thought of before. [1:41] They want to take your money. [1:42] They want to raise your tax up to 80%. [1:44] I gave you the biggest tax cut in the history of our country. [1:48] So we'll keep it that way. [1:51] They want no police and they want no prisons. [1:54] Where are these people coming from? [1:56] Communists, nothing good happens. [1:57] That's been proven for a thousand years using different names. [2:00] Jesse, President Trump is known for hyperbole and a little exaggeration, [2:06] but in this case, he was just repeating what they said. [2:08] That's great. [2:09] And they said it on Fox. [2:11] Unlike Democrats, they're not afraid to come on Fox. [2:14] And also difference, they're not blaming Trump the whole interview. [2:19] So you could actually hear what the agenda is. [2:22] I know more about the common agenda in two minutes [2:24] than I know about the Democratic agenda in two years. [2:27] And the polls show the country has no idea [2:30] what the Democrats stand for. [2:31] The Democrats have no idea what they stand for. [2:35] Four years under Joe Biden, no one even knows what happened. [2:38] All right? [2:39] So the woman comes on and she explains [2:41] why she wants to abolish all this stuff. [2:44] And this is great because she is wrong about everything. [2:48] She says we need to eliminate borders [2:50] and give amnesty and voting rights to migrants [2:52] because the United States causes illegal immigration [2:57] because we go around the world [2:59] and we destabilize other countries [3:01] and force other people to come here. [3:05] You know who comes here the most illegally? [3:09] Mexicans. [3:10] Do we destabilize Mexico? [3:13] They're like our largest trading partner. [3:15] Now, if Trump was going to start landing airstrikes [3:18] in Guadalajara and then all these migrants [3:21] are going to Portland, yes. [3:22] That is destabilizing Mexico. [3:24] And that might happen. [3:26] But until it does, she's dead wrong. [3:28] She also says that she wants to abolish the Senate [3:30] because it doesn't give the people a voice. [3:32] Well, that's not really why the Senate was put there. [3:36] The Senate was put there for states [3:39] with low populations to get equal power. [3:41] And because of mass hysteria in Congress. [3:45] Who has made a mistake when they've been passionate? [3:49] Who's been making a mistake when they've been angry? [3:52] And then maybe a day later they realize, [3:54] maybe I shouldn't have done that. [3:56] That's why we have the Senate. [3:58] The Senate's like the senior [3:59] who prevents the freshmen from getting drunk [4:02] and doing things that is going to ruin their lives later on. [4:05] That's why we have the Senate. [4:07] She says we need to abolish prisons [4:09] because most of the crimes are like poverty crimes. [4:13] Also not true. [4:15] Two-thirds of the people in state prison [4:17] are there for homicide, rape, and violent assault. [4:22] Most of the crimes are not for burglary and carjacking, okay? [4:24] And a lot of the people in federal prison [4:26] are there for drug trafficking. [4:28] That's like moving millions of dollars of cocaine, [4:31] ecstasy, and heroin across state lines. [4:33] Those guys have furs, lambos, safes stacked with cash. [4:38] I don't even have that. [4:40] So this midterm is going to come down [4:41] to common sense versus crazy. [4:43] And the Democrats have a choice. [4:45] They can do common sense or what they're doing now, [4:48] which is straddling crazy and common sense. [4:50] And as you know, when you stand in the middle of the road, [4:53] you get run over. [4:55] Tyrus, do you think Republicans should be concerned [4:57] that this DSA movement is growing [5:00] or should the Democrats be more concerned about it? [5:02] I think everyone should be concerned. [5:05] I think we've already experienced this. [5:07] We all not forgot about the pandemic. [5:09] That was what it was like [5:10] when the government told you what to do. [5:12] How did we like that? [5:12] I think everyone across the board hated it. [5:14] Even worse, we saw Americans turn on Americans for favor. [5:18] They would report someone if they played outside. [5:21] But I think the problem is [5:22] is that Americans were very spoiled [5:23] and we don't really know what communism looks like. [5:26] I had Michael Malice on my podcast today. [5:28] I love him, hilarious guy. [5:30] He was born in a former Soviet Union. [5:33] And their communism, what they would do [5:36] is they would force you to live in family groups [5:38] in one apartment. [5:40] Even if like the Dana family and the Tyrus family, [5:42] the government has given our housing, [5:43] we have to share an apartment. [5:44] So you know what the families would end up doing? [5:46] Is that they would report one of the family members [5:49] and have them disappeared in the middle of the night [5:52] so they could get the extra bedroom. [5:53] That's communism. [5:54] We don't understand, we saw during the pandemic [5:57] how upsetting it was to be told to get a shot, [6:00] to be told to wear a mask, [6:01] said you couldn't go outside. [6:03] That's what they're aiming for. [6:05] And America rejected it wholeheartedly. [6:06] We're still looking for get back from all we lost, [6:10] the education we lost. [6:11] We have a whole generation of young men that are lost. [6:13] That is communism. [6:14] That's what it's going to look like. [6:16] I'm just glad that they're no longer hiding behind the curtain. [6:19] The democratic party has been overtaken by communism. [6:23] And now they're saying it, they're flaunting it. [6:25] They're literally walking on Fox News saying what it is. [6:27] This is how we're going to do it. [6:30] Here's the thing. [6:31] I'm not against it. [6:32] I think everyone on this table is not in favor of communism. [6:35] Are the American people going to show up [6:37] when it comes time to not get these people into power? [6:40] Because at the end of the day, [6:41] if America falls to communism, [6:43] it's because the American people willed it. [6:44] So we're still a free society. [6:47] And I would not vote for this, [6:48] but I would not stop another American from voting for it. [6:50] I just hope there's more of us than there are them. [6:52] What it is, Jessica. [6:53] What is it? [6:56] It is a terrible TV segment for the democratic party. [7:01] It was texted to me by no less than 10 concerned Democrats [7:05] who were like, are you watching this? [7:06] And I said, Shannon's Booker beat Jesse's Booker. [7:09] So I actually think that there is a great opportunity [7:13] out of this for the party. [7:16] And I think that they should seize it [7:18] because you need to get on the record [7:22] about these policy positions [7:24] because there are a lot of people [7:25] who think that democratic socialism [7:27] and what the DSA is selling [7:29] is Medicare for all and tax the rich. [7:32] And maybe a few grocery stores, [7:34] universal pre-K child care. [7:36] They do not think it's abolishing prisons. [7:38] They do not think it means [7:41] that anyone who is here illegally, [7:44] immediately becomes a citizen. [7:46] Do you want to have a conversation [7:48] about there being two senators [7:50] from a state with a population of South Dakota [7:52] and only two from California? [7:53] I get that. [7:54] But abolishing the Senate, [7:55] abolishing the presidency, [7:57] you know, foundational core tenants of the country, [8:00] that's very different. [8:01] As far as I know in terms of [8:03] who's actually been on the ballot [8:04] and been successful [8:05] with that kind of radical agenda, [8:08] it's just Chevalier from up in Harlem thus far. [8:12] Yeah, Daria Lisa. [8:13] Yeah, but what about the lady in Colorado? [8:15] Ethiopian barista. [8:17] She's, I don't believe me. [8:19] Correct me if I'm wrong, [8:20] but she doesn't want to abolish prisons [8:21] and say all that. [8:22] I'll correct you, you're wrong. [8:23] Really? [8:24] You don't know that. [8:25] I'm taking a guess. [8:25] I see it on your face. [8:27] Okay, well, she's a lawyer. [8:29] So I... [8:29] Oh, that makes it better? [8:31] No, I'm just saying [8:31] it would surprise me more [8:33] to hear her say that. [8:34] So take the opportunity while you can. [8:37] Make sure that the common sense versus crazy [8:39] is the framing of the general election. [8:42] You know, I'm watching Trump out there at the rally. [8:45] He is boasting about an economic record [8:47] that does not exist. [8:48] You know, they've lost thousands [8:50] of manufacturing jobs, construction jobs. [8:52] People are losing their health care in Michigan. [8:54] And he is selling a bad bill of goods. [8:56] And the American public knows that. [8:57] They strongly disapprove of him [8:59] across the board and in Michigan. [9:01] So don't let the framing be about [9:03] this party wants to get rid of prisons [9:05] and then you have to turn around [9:06] and take more of this guy. [9:09] So, Kennedy, I'm glad that [9:10] Jessica brought that up [9:12] about the Democrats [9:12] taking the opportunity to make a point. [9:15] But here's the thing that I believe. [9:17] I think Democrats want to say [9:20] that they're part of the Big Ten [9:22] and they are going to rely on us [9:25] to discredit the DSA [9:27] because they're going to pretend [9:29] that everything's fine [9:31] so that they can get the numbers [9:32] and win elections [9:33] because they want power. [9:34] Well, unfortunately, [9:35] it's a very lazy tack. [9:37] And that's what they've done [9:38] with President Trump [9:39] instead of relying on policy positions [9:42] that really resonate with people [9:43] so you don't have to do [9:45] this really messy cleanup [9:46] this late in a midterm cycle. [9:49] You know, they, [9:50] this is all just a complete [9:52] massive unforced error. [9:54] And they could have been [9:55] dictating the stuff [9:56] and fighting the Democratic [9:57] Socialists from within [9:58] since 2016. [10:00] And they decided not to do that [10:02] and it is metastasized [10:03] to the point where, you know, [10:04] now it is blocking out [10:06] any sunlight that Democrats [10:08] might have felt thinking [10:09] that they have momentum [10:10] going into the midterms. [10:12] You know, this is a massive [10:14] refocusing point [10:15] and it really is terrifying. [10:18] Like this kind of socialism, [10:19] making purchase in this country, [10:21] it should really scare [10:22] the living crap out of people [10:24] because, you know, [10:25] what these people are doing, [10:27] these irrational dingbats [10:28] that, you know, [10:29] luckily go on air [10:31] and talk about this stuff. [10:33] What they're doing is [10:35] they are telegraphing an apocalypse. [10:39] And, you know, [10:40] they're not sugarcoating it. [10:42] So they want to burn [10:43] the Constitution [10:44] and it may be an imperfect system. [10:47] Like there may be [10:47] imperfections in our government, [10:49] but at least we have a government [10:50] that can examine itself [10:52] and make things better. [10:54] So what is their better? [10:55] What are they offering [10:56] with no prisons, [10:58] mass amnesty, [10:59] getting rid of the Senate, [11:00] getting rid of the presidency, [11:02] getting rid of the Supreme Court? [11:04] It is a dystopia. [11:06] And, you know, [11:06] it's not good news for Democrats [11:08] because you guys are too late to this [11:10] and there is a big fissure [11:12] in your party between [11:13] the people like Chris Murphy. [11:15] You're like, oh, [11:15] we're a big tent party. [11:17] No, you're not. [11:18] You're a party in decline [11:20] that's about to be [11:21] completely eviscerated [11:23] by psychopaths. [11:25] And, you know, [11:26] thank God for the independence. [11:27] They are fickle. [11:29] You know, [11:29] they are not MAGA Republicans, [11:31] but they are the only ones [11:33] who are standing the rational line [11:35] when so much has been ceded to, [11:37] you know, people who's, [11:40] I can't say a bad word. [11:41] Well, we welcome all dingbats [11:43] to America's Newsroom. [11:44] Please call us. [11:45] I'll put you on air.