State ROASTS Convicted Holly Bobo Killer During Cross-Examination

[00:00:00] Speaker 1: At 8.19 in the morning on April 13th of 2011, you texted Jason Autry. [00:00:09] Speaker 2: Okay. [00:00:09] Speaker 1: Never mention that to the police. [00:00:11] Speaker 2: I didn't mention every text I made. I didn't tell them every time I used the bathroom. [00:00:16] Speaker 1: 8.30, you called Jason Autry on the morning of April 13th, 2011. [00:00:23] Speaker 2: Ms. Weyberg, there was a lot of phone calls I made that morning. There was a lot of people I talked to that morning that I don't recall talking to. [00:00:28] Speaker 1: 8.35 on the morning of April 13th, 2011, you called your grandfather, Dick Adams. 8.37 in the morning of April 13th, 2011, you're calling Jason Autry again. Let me guess, you don't remember that, right? [00:00:51] Speaker 2: If I would have, I would have. [00:00:53] Speaker 1: You would have what? [00:00:56] Speaker 2: If I would have remembered, I would have, I would have, I would have, I would have tell you. Okay. I'm not going to sit here. [00:01:00] Speaker 1: Okay. 8.38, Jason Autry calls you back. Again, I'm talking about the morning of April 13th, 2011. The morning that has been your whole life since it happened. Since April 13th, 2011, that day has consumed your life. And nobody until this moment has heard that information. You didn't tell one officer. [00:01:32] Speaker 2: I did not. [00:01:33] Speaker 1: Wait. I had nothing to do with Holly Bobo's disappearance. I was on the phone with my grandfather. I was texting with my buddy, Jason Autry. Never mentioned it, did you? [00:01:47] Speaker 2: There's a lot of things I did that day that I didn't mention. [00:01:50] Speaker 1: Right. [00:01:51] Speaker 2: And it wasn't because I was lying or trying to be, it's because I just didn't remember. I was a drug user. I didn't remember everything I did that day, but I didn't lie about where I was at. Absolutely did not. [00:02:02] Speaker 1: You like to leave things out, like you told, you like to leave things out sometimes when the police talk to you. [00:02:07] Speaker 2: No, no, no. [00:02:09] Speaker 1: 8.38, you're calling Jason Autry. 8.53, you're calling Jason Autry. What was the urgency of getting hold of Jason Autry that morning? [00:02:19] Speaker 2: We talk all the time. Okay. We probably talk every day. Pull the phone records before that day, April 12th, April 11th. How many times did we talk to Jason Autry? I talked to Jason Autry weekly. I mean, every day I talked to Jason. It was probably when the day that went by during that time period that we didn't talk. We used drugs every day. Of course we talked. Y'all were close. Absolutely, we talked every day. Y'all were close. I looked up to him. [00:02:43] Speaker 1: Right. 8.58, you get a call from Brandon Williams. [00:02:48] Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am. [00:02:50] Speaker 1: 9.10, you get a call from Brandon Williams. [00:02:53] Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am. We was talking. Brandon Williams was a friend of mine and Rebecca's. Yes, I was talking to him. So, trying to get him to help get on my side and get Rebecca back on my side. [00:03:04] Speaker 1: Rebecca Earp testified at the trial. Of course, she was not telling the truth, right? She was mistaken about what she remembered. She wasn't telling the truth. She told the jury, you left early that morning to go scrapping. Turns out you didn't go scrapping, right? Remember that? [00:03:23] Speaker 2: I didn't. Look at the scrap records. I didn't. I scrapped before, I think it was two days before that and a couple days after that. She told her that's where you... How was she at my house? If she testified that she was at my house, how is she at my house if her cell phones is paying at 4 a.m. at her mama's house? How is she at my house? [00:03:42] Speaker 1: I don't know. At 9... Between 9.50 and 10.32 in the morning, you're wearing your phone out. You remember that? 9.50 and 10.32 from the Bird Song Tower, which is the closest to the interstate, which is the closest to the underpass, which is the closest to where you put a bullet through the head of Holly Bobo. You are wearing your phone out. Do you remember who all you texted and called? You called Joe's video. Shane Austin is calling you. You're calling Michael Hughley. Is he one of your drug buddies, too? [00:04:29] Speaker 2: He is. [00:04:29] Speaker 1: Okay. You're calling Joe's video again. Who works at Joe's video? [00:04:33] Speaker 2: Rebecca Earp. [00:04:34] Speaker 1: You called Joe's video again at 10.15. At 10.15, you're calling your grandfather again, trying to find him. At 10.16, you're calling your grandfather. 10.18, you get a text. 10.18, you send a text. 10.19, Shane Austin is calling saying, where are you, man? Right? Where are you, man? This plan is about to fall apart and blow up. Where are you, man? 10.19, you call Joe's video again, trying to get a hold of Rebecca because y'all were having a fight, right? 10.35, you call Dick Adams, your grandfather, again. 10.38, you call Rebecca. 10.49, Rebecca texts you. And lo and behold, and the whole world heard it, and there's no denying it, and nobody cares, that at 11.12 in the morning of April 13, 2011, where were you? [00:05:31] Speaker 2: It's at my house. [00:05:34] Speaker 1: At 11.12 in the morning on April 13, 2011? [00:05:37] Speaker 2: I don't recall exactly where, what, I don't recall the exact time, like I just testified to. The first thing I remember that morning is Shane calling. He asked if we wanted to overdose on Xanax. Just like I said, I went out to my brothers, got him up, got on Facebook. [00:05:57] Speaker 1: No, you didn't, because there's evidence in the file, and I'm sure you've seen it, because your lawyers that are sitting here today have shown it to you. And the lawyers, the 16-member team that you had representing you at trial, they showed you everything. There's no proof that you were on that computer at home. It was a mobile posting from your Facebook page. The last activity was at 6 o'clock in the morning. Is that coming back to you? [00:06:24] Speaker 2: That's wrong. [00:06:25] Speaker 1: At 11.12 in the morning of April 13, 2011, where were you? Let me give you a hint. The bank. Does that sound about right? [00:06:43] Speaker 2: I don't recall. [00:06:44] Speaker 1: Isn't that what this is all about? Your lawyer stood up months ago and said, our client was at. [00:06:50] Speaker 2: We was at the bank. [00:06:51] Speaker 1: When I finish, they stood up months ago and told this judge that on April 13, 2011, the last day that Holly Bobo took breath on this earth, my client could not have committed the crime that a jury convicted him of because he was at the ATM in Parsons. Dun-da-dum! Mystery solved. We are so sorry. 11.12 in the morning is the whole point of this hearing for you to convince Judge Bradbury that there's no way you could have raped, murdered, and kidnapped Holly Bobo because you were pulled in backward at the ATM at 11.12 in the morning on April 13, right? [00:07:52] Speaker 2: That's correct. That's correct. That is correct. That's correct. [00:07:56] Speaker 1: But we got no proof of that. [00:07:58] Speaker 2: That truck. [00:07:59] Speaker 1: Okay. The truck that you can't see anybody in. [00:08:01] Speaker 2: That truck is my brother's truck. I was driving that truck. Was there any other vehicles that was pulled in the ATM backwards that day? [00:08:08] Speaker 1: I don't know. Couldn't tell you. [00:08:10] Speaker 2: If we had the real ATM video, we would know, wouldn't we? [00:08:13] Speaker 1: We've seen it. [00:08:14] Speaker 2: That's not the real ATM video. ATM video shows the person that's punching the numbers in. If we had that, we would see Shane Austin punching the numbers in. And you would see me in the driver's seat and possibly my brother in the back. [00:08:27] Speaker 1: Do you know what the jury heard from your cell phone expert? Do you know what the jury that convicted you heard from your cell phone expert? Not the state of Tennessee's, though he agreed with it, but from the very expert. Remember Jonathan Reeves? Remember that name? I do. But you attended the trial. You were here every day, right? [00:08:51] Speaker 2: I did. [00:08:51] Speaker 1: Ms. Thompson puts you in a new suit every day from her husband, right? She put makeup on you, right? [00:08:57] Speaker 2: I do. You're right. [00:08:59] Speaker 1: I mean, you sat here. You listened to the witnesses. You took notes, right? [00:09:04] Speaker 2: I did. [00:09:04] Speaker 1: You were engaged in the trial, right? [00:09:07] Speaker 2: I did. [00:09:07] Speaker 1: You're pulling on their suit coat and asking them questions. You're interacting with them. Jonathan Reeves, your cell phone expert, told the jury Zach Adams' phone was pinging off of the Parsons' cell tower at 11.16 in the morning. Remember that? [00:09:34] Speaker 2: That's right, along with Shane Austin and Dylan Adams. [00:09:36] Speaker 1: We're all in Parsons. [00:09:38] Speaker 2: That's right. [00:09:39] Speaker 1: We're all in Parsons at 11.16 in the morning. The jury heard it. They didn't seem to care much about it, did they? [00:09:49] Speaker 2: The jury heard a lot of things, a lot of lies. [00:09:53] Speaker 1: Right. Everybody was lying, weren't they? [00:09:55] Speaker 2: I wouldn't say everybody, but there was a lot of lies told in that case, in that trial. Lots of lies. [00:10:01] Speaker ?: Lots of lies. [00:10:01] Speaker 1: Let me ask you about the trial a little bit more. You mentioned that if you had, jeez, if I had just known that I had the opportunity not to testify, or to testify, I would have done that. I would have done that. I'm sure you've seen this, and we'll talk about it in a little more depth in a minute. There's a series of documents that your lawyer's team put together titled, Zach's Stupid Mouth. Remember that? Did you ever see that? [00:10:34] Speaker 2: No. [00:10:35] Speaker 1: It outlines everything that Ms. Etu has just talked to you about, in addition, everything else. Everything else that you said to anybody with ears between April 13, 2011, up to today, because you're still talking about it. But at the trial, after the state rested, right, and Judge McGinley looked to your team and said, will there be any defense proof, does your client want to testify? Remember that? [00:11:08] Speaker 2: What was the question again? [00:11:10] Speaker 1: Do you remember being asked if you wanted to testify at your own trial? I did. Okay. You're on trial for the rape, murder, and kidnapping of Holly Bobo. The judge asked you if you wanted to testify. Did you answer the judge right away, or did you talk to your lawyers about it? [00:11:28] Speaker 2: I believe I answered right away. [00:11:29] Speaker 1: You just blurted out an answer. [00:11:32] Speaker 2: I said no. I was advised by my lawyer not to, and that's what I did. [00:11:36] Speaker 1: Okay. All right. May I approach, Your Honor? You may. You can pass it to the vote. Senator, may I see what the, the moment here at the trial is page 2,539 of, I don't know, a bottom. There you go. Thank you. That's great. You recognize this? Your Honor, would you like a transcript? We have a copy of the transcript for the court, if you'd like to follow along. [00:12:06] Speaker 3: I'll be all right. There's going to be objections this thing. [00:12:12] Speaker ?: No, you're not. [00:12:13] Speaker 3: It's going to be in a couple of minutes, but I don't know. [00:12:19] Speaker 1: You recognize Mr. Judge McGinley talking to you? [00:12:30] Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am. [00:12:34] Speaker 1: You sat in that stand, didn't you? You remember? [00:12:39] Speaker 2: I don't, I'm not, I don't recall sitting in the stand. I think I stood up over there at the table. [00:12:44] Speaker 1: You swear in? [00:12:46] Speaker 2: I don't believe I was swore in. [00:12:48] Speaker 1: Yes, you were. Read it. You were sworn in, and you were sworn to tell the truth. The whole truth. [00:12:56] Speaker 2: Okay, I see that right here. [00:13:04] Speaker 1: By virtue of the Constitution, we all have certain rights. One of those rights is you can't be compelled to give testimony. You were present when I, this is the judge talking to you, right? Not to Ms. Thompson, not to your mother, to you. You were present when I read that to the jury at the outset. Said if you do not take a stand to testify, that they can draw nothing from that. But that's constitutional right. Also, you have a constitutional right to give testimony if you wish or desire. You can take a stand. If you do, you will be subjected to cross-abamination, and your credibility will be judged by the jury by the same standards I've already charged them. This is your decision, okay? Again, this is the judge talking to you. Your big moment. [00:13:57] Speaker 2: Ms. Weirich. [00:13:58] Speaker 1: You can make it having consulted with your attorneys. Again, this is the judge talking to you after you've been sworn to tell the truth. I would expect you to consult with your attorneys, but this is not their decision. This is your decision. You're standing there between two of your attorneys. Mr. Gonzalez came on the case late, but you've had ample opportunity to discuss this with Mr. Simmons and Ms. Thompson. Is that correct? That's the judge asking you. Is that correct? You know what you said? Yes, sir. Having said all of that, is it your election not to give testimony? Again, this is the judge asking you, yes, sir, that's right, correct. The judge goes on because the judge wants to make sure this very important decision is being made freely and voluntarily, without any pressure, without a lawyer saying, oh, no, no, no, no, no. You ain't getting on that stand. [00:15:18] Speaker ?: You ain't getting on that stand. [00:15:18] Speaker 1: You ain't getting on that stand. So the judge says to you, are you doing this freely and voluntarily? You said, yes, sir. You don't feel you've been pressured either way? This is the judge asking you again. No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. The judge goes on because it's that important to give or to not give. You cut him off. You were so ready. No, sir. No pressure. No, sir. This is your decision. The judge is asking you again. This is your decision. Yes, sir. All right. Want to address anything further? Here's your open mic moment. Do you want to address anything further? Absolutely. No, sir, I do not. And that was the end of it. And then your team began putting on your proof in the trial. What was the defense in your trial? Do you remember? [00:16:26] Speaker 2: I was innocent. [00:16:28] Speaker 1: Right. What was the defense? What was the strategy? Who committed the crime? [00:16:35] Speaker 2: Mr. Britt. [00:16:36] Speaker 1: There you go. Terry Britt was the strategy. And the defense was built around that. Correct? [00:16:42] Speaker 2: I also want to say, my mind was already made up about the testifying before the judge asked me all this. My mind was made up, my mind was made up the minute that I promised my mom and my cousin that I wouldn't testify. There was nothing that was going to change that. [00:17:02] Speaker 1: So you, you're either lied to Judge McGinley when you were under oath. You didn't tell Judge McGinley anything about your mom and your grandmother pressuring you. So you either lied to Judge McGinley on that day, or you're lying to this judge today about it. Because that never came out of your mouth, did it? [00:17:25] Speaker 2: It didn't come out of my mouth, but my mind was already made up. Okay. My mind was already made up. [00:17:30] Speaker 1: You never told the judge that, though, did you? [00:17:32] Speaker 2: No, I didn't. Okay. All right. I didn't. There was a lot of things that I didn't realize at my trial, things that I know now. There was a lot of things. I was totally unprepared. I had no way to access law books or anything. There was a lot of things I didn't know that I would have did different. There was lots of things. That you would have done differently. Yes. Right. Yes. All right. Absolutely. I would have demanded to go through all of the discovery. I would have demanded it. That's one of the key things. What if there's something in there? My lawyer don't know if there's something in there. I mean, that's... [00:18:08] Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Who... How many times did Ms. Thompson come to meet with you? [00:18:13] Speaker 2: I don't recall Ms. Weirich. She came a lot. She did. [00:18:18] Speaker 1: She worked hard on this case. Almost 4,000 hours. Do you know that? Almost 4,000 hours of time that she billed the state of Tennessee for, which is probably an underestimate of the time. I would imagine she probably put time into this case that she didn't bill the state for. In addition to that, your family paid her $50,000, right? [00:18:45] Speaker 2: I believe it was $55,000. [00:18:47] Speaker 1: All right. She put a lot of work into this. How many times did she come to see you? $10,000, $20,000, $30,000, $40,000? [00:18:53] Speaker 2: She came a lot. [00:18:55] Speaker 1: How many... Give us an idea. [00:18:56] Speaker 2: Yeah. $50,000. [00:19:01] Speaker 1: $50,000. [00:19:01] Speaker 2: I would say, yes. I don't recall. Like I said, I don't recall how many times. I didn't count. I didn't... I didn't mark it. [00:19:08] Speaker 3: He's given us... It's a lot. We know it's a lot. [00:19:12] Speaker 2: But every time she came, every time she came, she wouldn't... A lot of times we would just be going through the discovery, going through stuff. [00:19:19] Speaker ?: Well, I thought you just said you'd never saw the discovery. [00:19:21] Speaker 2: I didn't see all of it. I didn't see all of it. There's four terabytes worth. I didn't see all of it. I'm not sure she looked at all of it. [00:19:29] Speaker 1: Did she ever call you on the phone? Did you ever call her on the phone? [00:19:34] Speaker 2: We did. [00:19:34] Speaker 1: So you had in-person meetings. You talked over the phone. Every time you had a court setting, you were with her, correct? [00:19:42] Speaker 2: We did. And when she did call, when we did talk, we didn't talk. She advised me not to talk about the case on the phone. She was very leery. When I was at Chester County Jail, I remember they would let me call her, but they would carry me to the little... There's a little room in there. The same room when she would come to meet with me, it's the same room they would put me in. And when I told her about that, she said, well, from here on out, don't talk about nothing on the phone. We think this room may be wired or something. [00:20:11] Speaker 1: Sure. So she didn't want you talking there. Right. So she came to see you many times. She also sent people to come see you, correct? [00:20:19] Speaker 2: She did. [00:20:21] Speaker 1: Mitigation experts that came to see you, right? Remember Lee Norton? Who was Lee Norton? [00:20:28] Speaker 2: The one that did the IQ test and all that. [00:20:30] Speaker 1: Okay. Jim Simmons, did he come see you? [00:20:33] Speaker 2: He did. [00:20:33] Speaker 1: All right. Did Jerry Gonzalez ever come see you? [00:20:38] Speaker 2: I don't just... I don't specifically recall. I think he might have came once. I don't really recall. [00:20:45] Speaker 1: How many times did the mitigation specialist come see you? [00:20:50] Speaker 2: I think we met once with Jim Simmons and then she came back another time and gave me the IQ test. [00:20:57] Speaker 1: And there was a team of investigators working on the case, right? [00:21:00] Speaker 2: I remember two investigators. I remember two. I think there was two. Jim Simmons had an investigative team and Jennifer had one, but it was like two investigators. [00:21:11] Speaker 1: Did they ever come see you? [00:21:12] Speaker 2: They did. They came with Jennifer and Jim. [00:21:17] Speaker 1: And so I'm certain, correct, that in these conversations and these meetings, when you met with Ms. Thompson, did she take notes? Was she writing anything down? Was she just on her cell phone? She took some notes. Okay. So in the course of these interactions, did the investigators take down notes? [00:21:34] Speaker 2: I don't recall. I believe so. [00:21:36] Speaker 1: Okay. What about Lee Norton? Lee Norton take notes? [00:21:40] Speaker 2: I don't remember much. I can't really recall Lee Norton. I know we did the IQ thing. That was with the blocks and all that stuff. I thought that was kind of... [00:21:50] Speaker 1: But it's your testimony today that you told all of these people, I couldn't have done this because I was with Shane ODing on Xanax. Right? [00:22:02] Speaker 2: That's the truth. [00:22:03] Speaker 1: Okay. And you told all of those people, I couldn't have done this. I was with Shane ODing on Xanax when Holly Bobo was abducted, raped, and murdered. Right? [00:22:17] Speaker 2: That's what you told them. Shane and Dylan was with me. They was with me. Right. At what time? Well, like you just said, 11 at 11 o'clock, we was at the ATM. So that truck that you just showed, that's us pulling the ATM backwards. Right. [00:22:33] Speaker 1: Right. Okay. But you told all that to Ms. Thompson and to Ms. Norton and to Jim Simmons and to the team of investigators. They all knew there was no way... [00:22:42] Speaker 2: Like I just testified to, there was things that I don't remember about that morning. I don't specifically recall going to that ATM until some later on. [00:22:51] Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Do you remember telling... Well, let me ask you this. Do you remember reading or seeing from Ms. Thompson a report from one of the mitigation experts? There are problems with using his mother as mitigation because Zach shot her. Remember that? I know a minute ago, I wrote it down because it was such a creative description of a shooting that somehow your mother's leg accidentally got in the path of a bullet that you accidentally had in your possession. I think it's, I'm not getting inaccurate, but you shot your mother. [00:23:40] Speaker 2: I did not shoot my mother like you're sitting here saying. I operated a firearm in a reckless manner. Rule number one of hunter safety, you're supposed to always, any weapon you're supposed to treat it like it was loaded. I treated that firearm, a pistol as it was unloaded, and it went off and it struck my mother in the knee. I did not voluntarily shoot my mother like you're sitting here, like you're trying to explain to everybody. It did not happen. [00:24:05] Speaker 1: I'm not trying to explain anything, Mr. Adams. [00:24:07] Speaker 2: That's what you're trying to make it like. [00:24:09] Speaker 1: Now, what I'm trying to do is get to the truth for the judge and for this court. And you're well-versed in the use of guns, aren't you? I am. You've been handling guns since you were about eight years old, right? When your grandfather taught you how to handle a gun and how to shoot deer. [00:24:25] Speaker 2: Probably before that. [00:24:26] Speaker 1: Okay. All right. So you know about all that. You told the mitigation or the investigator team that came to see you that you've known Jason Autry for a long time, right? [00:24:41] Speaker 2: I believe I just testified to that. [00:24:42] Speaker 1: Right. You never told the police that, though. [00:24:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, I never told the police that. I was scared of Jason. [00:24:52] Speaker 1: Okay. [00:24:52] Speaker 2: Jason's not a person that you're just going to tell the police on. [00:24:57] Speaker 1: I'm not asking you why didn't you tell the police that Jason Autry was with you with the river when you murdered Holly Bobo. Why didn't you tell the police, Jason Autry is my best friend, and we text and talk to each other on the phone every day. You never said that to the police, did you? [00:25:15] Speaker 2: I never told the police a lot of things. [00:25:16] Speaker 1: Okay. In fact, you told Eva Pilgrim with 2020, I wasn't with Jason that day. [00:25:24] Speaker 2: I don't recall being with Jason that day. [00:25:27] Speaker 1: You just testified that you were with Jason that day. [00:25:30] Speaker 2: I was, but I don't, there was no, I was with Jason so much. There was nothing that we did that morning that, like, we didn't catch a big bass. We didn't, there was nothing specific about that morning to make me remember. Like those phone calls you just went through, I'm sure they happened, but I couldn't tell you what we talked about. There was nothing specific that happened that morning to make, that stood out. I'm sure I made every one of those phone calls. I'm sure I made every one of those texts, but I can't tell you what we was talking about. I'm sure it was about drugs or something of long, I guarantee it was about drugs. It's the only thing it could have been. [00:26:15] Speaker 1: Do you remember how many times you told your lawyers, I just want to go to trial? I just want to go to trial. [00:26:25] Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, I'm innocent of this, absolutely, I don't care if death penalty is on the table or not, absolutely, I'll, absolutely, I'll, I'll, I'll, to my dying breath, I'll be innocent, and that's the truth. [00:26:40] Speaker 1: In all of these interviews with the investigators, when did you ever tell them, I was with Jason Autry that day? [00:26:50] Speaker 2: Like I just said, I don't recall being with Jason that day. I was with Jason so much, ma'am, we did so many drugs, days would run together. Jason hung out at my house so much, we, we, we was, we was together all the time, all the time. [00:27:08] Speaker 1: Then why not tell the police that? [00:27:10] Speaker 2: Two or three days before April 11th, or April 13th, 2011, look, two or three days after, we, we talked all the time, all the time. [00:27:19] Speaker 1: Then why not tell the police that? Do you remember telling investigators that people steer clear of Jason and I when we're together? Most people know we are up to no good. [00:27:39] Speaker 2: Remember telling them that? That's the truth. Most of the time me and Jason was together, we was up to no good. Well, he was usually getting high or going, he was, he was usually trying to steal something. [00:27:48] Speaker 1: What kind of car did Jason drive back in April of 2011? [00:27:51] Speaker 2: PT Cruiser, gray, four-door. [00:27:54] Speaker 1: Did he come to your house later that day before y'all went over to Dottie's? [00:27:59] Speaker 2: He did like, yeah, yeah, he came that day. [00:28:02] Speaker 1: So he did, he did see you later that day? [00:28:04] Speaker 2: He did. [00:28:04] Speaker 1: Okay. All right, y'all went to Dottie's together and you're both covered in blood is what your brother and Shane told the police. You both had blood on your clothes. [00:28:14] Speaker 2: That's a lie. [00:28:15] Speaker 1: That was, of course, that's a lie, yeah. And that's when y'all got in the fight, right? You and Shane got in the fight there. [00:28:21] Speaker 2: But, so he just pulls up my house, he got blood all over him, we're just going to go, we're just going to go, go about our daily business with just blood all over him. That makes no sense whatsoever. [00:28:31] Speaker 1: There's a lot about this that doesn't make much sense. [00:28:34] Speaker 2: You're right. But I'm telling you. You're absolutely right, like those ATM videos. If we had those ATM videos of what, of that day, you would see Shane Austin, you would see me in the driver's seat, and you'd see my brother in the back seat. But where are they at? [00:28:45] Speaker 1: Right. [00:28:46] Speaker ?: Right. [00:28:47] Speaker 2: If we could get those, if the TBI would have did their job and got that. We wouldn't be here today. I promise you we wouldn't be here today. [00:28:54] Speaker 1: The jury heard that you were in Parsons at 1116 in the morning. The jury heard that from your own expert. And they did not hear. Do you know what time Holly Bobo was abducted? I don't. 7.50 in the morning on April 13th, 2011. So your defense team, you filed a notice of alibi, didn't you? You and your lawyers. Remember who your alibi witnesses were? Do you remember who you told the court your alibi witnesses were going to be in a written motion? [00:29:41] Speaker 2: I think it was, no, I don't recall. [00:29:45] Speaker 1: Dick Adams, Dylan Adams, Shane Austin, and Rebecca Earp. [00:29:53] Speaker 2: All the people that I've seen that day. [00:29:55] Speaker 1: Right. [00:29:58] Speaker 2: All the people I've made phone calls to that day. Everybody you just stated I was talking to that day. Everybody you just stated, every one of those names you just stated that I talked to on the phone that day. Every one of those names that I've seen that day. Me and Dylan and Shane, we was all together that day. [00:30:14] Speaker 1: Did any of those people, who of that bunch saw you at 8 o'clock in the morning on April 13th, 2011? Nobody. All right. So on April 13th, 2011, much later in the day, after you've gotten into a fight with Shane at Dottie's, your grandfather calls 911. Not once, but twice. On April 13th, 2011. [00:30:38] Speaker 2: That's correct. [00:30:39] Speaker 1: The jury heard that, right? [00:30:41] Speaker 2: That's correct. If I'm not mistaken, he said he's trying to get a gun and a vehicle. Well, why was I needing a vehicle if I had the white pickup, like you said? That makes no sense whatsoever. And I believe you said it yourself yesterday. If I had access to a vehicle, why was I needing his vehicle? [00:31:00] Speaker 1: Maybe you were trying to get out of town fast because you just... That's not the truth. It's because I didn't have a vehicle. [00:31:06] Speaker 2: It's because I didn't have a vehicle. That's why I was trying to get his van. [00:31:11] Speaker 1: See if you recognize these voices. [00:31:15] Speaker ?: I don't know if you're trying to get out of town, but I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town, but I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town, but I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town, but I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. [00:31:45] Speaker 3: I don't know if you're trying to get out of town, I don't know if you're trying to get out of town, but I don't know if you're trying to get out of town, but I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town, but I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town, but I don't know if you're trying to get out of town, but I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. You don't know if you're trying to get out of town. I don't know if you're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. [00:33:06] Speaker ?: You're trying to get out of town. [00:33:07] Speaker 3: You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. [00:33:25] Speaker ?: You're trying to get out of town. [00:33:26] Speaker 3: You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. [00:33:42] Speaker 2: You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. [00:33:45] Speaker ?: You're trying to get out of town. [00:33:46] Speaker 2: You're trying to get out of town. [00:33:47] Speaker 1: You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. [00:33:49] Speaker 2: You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. [00:33:55] Speaker ?: You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. [00:34:12] Speaker 3: You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. [00:34:52] Speaker ?: You're trying to get out of town. [00:34:53] Speaker 3: You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. [00:35:23] Speaker ?: You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. [00:35:26] Speaker 1: You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. You're trying to get out of town. [00:35:42] Speaker 2: This this a Holly got abducted April 13th 2011. That Friday after this is when he took me up there to get my get the truck. It was hid behind their house. What time do you take you up there. I don't recall Miss Weirich. I know it was around lunch I would say. [00:35:59] Speaker 1: All right. And where's that truck today. Yeah. [00:36:02] Speaker 2: You know more than I do. I'm sure the TBI had it. [00:36:06] Speaker 1: They searched it right. [00:36:07] Speaker 2: They did. [00:36:08] Speaker 1: They searched the black pickup truck. They did. They searched a lot of cars that you had access to right. Tore my house all apart. [00:36:13] Speaker 2: Right. [00:36:14] Speaker 1: How many cars that you had access to did they search. Do you remember. [00:36:17] Speaker 2: All the cars that y'all searched none of them was none of them ran. That white Nissan never ran. [00:36:23] Speaker 1: How many. How many cars and trucks that you had access to did the TBI search. [00:36:31] Speaker 2: The Silverado that was wrecked. It was incapacitated. Just give me a number. I'm counting right now. I'm counting. I'm doing it right now. If you're just. My Silverado. It was. Crashed. I had a black Nissan. It didn't run. The white Nissan. It didn't run. And then there was another black Nissan. That didn't run. It was just a parts. [00:36:54] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:36:55] Speaker 1: They searched it all. [00:36:56] Speaker 2: Yup. [00:36:57] Speaker 1: All right. More to this 911 tape. [00:36:59] Speaker ?: If we may continue. He's run to 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. [00:36:59] Speaker 1: He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. [00:37:01] Speaker ?: He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. [00:37:04] Speaker 3: He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. [00:37:16] Speaker ?: He's run back to his house at 2:35. [00:37:17] Speaker 3: He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. [00:37:21] Speaker ?: He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. [00:37:24] Speaker 3: He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:35. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. [00:37:42] Speaker ?: He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. [00:37:44] Speaker 3: He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. [00:37:48] Speaker ?: He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. [00:37:58] Speaker 3: He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's run back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:38:10] Speaker ?: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:38:20] Speaker 3: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 3:40. He's running back to his house at 3:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:38:42] Speaker ?: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:38:44] Speaker 3: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:38:47] Speaker ?: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:38:49] Speaker 3: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:38:51] Speaker ?: He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:38:52] Speaker 3: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:38:55] Speaker ?: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:39:02] Speaker 3: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:42. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:39:16] Speaker ?: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:39:18] Speaker 3: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:39:23] Speaker ?: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:39:26] Speaker 3: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:39:28] Speaker ?: He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:39:29] Speaker 3: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:39:38] Speaker ?: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:39:44] Speaker 1: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:39:57] Speaker 2: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:40:00] Speaker 1: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:40:04] Speaker 3: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. [00:40:13] Speaker 1: He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:40. He's running back to his house at 2:41. He's running back to his house at 2:42. He's running back to his house at 2:43. He's running back to his house at 2:45. [00:40:20] Speaker 2: He's running back to his house at 2:45. He's running back to his house at 2:50. [00:40:22] Speaker 1: He's running back to his house at 2:50. He's running back to his house at 2:50. He's running back to his house at 2:50. He's running back to his house at 2:50. [00:40:26] Speaker 2: I don't dispute that. [00:40:28] Speaker 1: Law enforcement? Okay. And he asked you for your phone number. You wouldn't give it to him? I don't cooperate. [00:40:34] Speaker 2: I didn't cooperate with law at the time, like that. [00:40:37] Speaker 1: He noticed that you were shaking. [00:40:38] Speaker 2: They knew my phone number. Why do I have to, I mean, stuff like that. They had my DNA. I'm like, you know, it was just little stuff like that they would ask. You know, back then, Ms. Weir, it was me. Like, it was me against the police. I sold drugs. I did drugs. I knew that the police, like, it was, it's not like I am now. [00:40:58] Speaker 1: Right. So if they knew all that at all, what were you, why were you shaking so bad that day when he came? [00:41:04] Speaker 2: I had about 5,000 marijuana plants right behind the house there. Okay. And inside the house. It was all inside the house. I'm talking about at least 5,000. [00:41:14] Speaker 1: But they knew you were a drug dealer? [00:41:16] Speaker 2: Yeah. [00:41:17] Speaker 1: Okay. So he comes by, wants to talk to you, check some things out. You won't give them your phone number. That's when they watch you for hours. That's when you're vacuuming out the truck. That's when you're running back and forth between your granddaddy's house and washing off this mattress. You never once mentioned, wait a minute. I was at the bank on April 13th, 2011. I was at the ATM at 11:16 in the morning. I was with Shane and I was with Dylan. You never mentioned it. [00:41:41] Speaker 2: No, I never mentioned that. But if we had that video, if we had that ATM footage, like I said, it would show Shane. It got the ATM getting. And like I said, I don't know where the video is at. If TBI would have did their job, I wouldn't be sitting here right now in blues like I am. [00:41:56] Speaker 1: Well, thank goodness for your cell phone expert. Thank goodness for Jonathan Reeves, who made it clear to the jury. Zach Adams was in Parsons at 11:12 or 11:16 in the morning. He made that clear to the jury. [00:42:14] Speaker 2: Well, ma'am, that ATM footage would have showed me, it would have showed me sitting in that 2007 Silverado with Shane in the passenger seat and my brother possibly in the back. [00:42:22] Speaker 1: All right, Ms. Adams, I know that's your position. Ms. Lowry, I know that his expert testified. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. April 23rd, 2011, law enforcement comes back. They see the scratches on you. You said that you got those on April 4th of 2011 when you were arrested by Henderson County. That was investigated. You didn't get the scratches then. And there was testimony about that, that you lied about that. Again, you don't mention the bank. You don't mention Jason Autry. And you don't mention I was frantically on my phone the morning of April 13th, 2011, trying to get a hold of my grandfather and Jason and Shane. I couldn't have done this. Never mentioned it. I never mentioned that. July 6th, 2011, law enforcement again comes by. Different version. This time you're getting up a little bit earlier. This time you mentioned Tony Weber. And when that was run to the ground, problem there was Tony Weber said I didn't get gas that day. I wasn't at that gas station that day. I don't know what Zach Adams is talking about. [00:43:28] Speaker 2: Ms. Weyrick, I believe we had, I believe that we found bank statements where he did get gas that day. And it wasn't once, I think it was twice, if I'm not mistaken. No, sir. [00:43:37] Speaker 1: Well, the record will reflect what the record reflects. August 28th, 2012 is the first time, August 28th, 2012 is the first time you mentioned to law enforcement that you were with Jason Autry. You then go. [00:43:55] Speaker 2: Ms. Weyrick, I wasn't with Jason Autry. He came by, I remember he came by that day and we went over to Victor's house for a little bit. And I got morphine. I was to go between him. It wasn't like we was together all day. He was there for like 30 minutes at the most. He came by, we got the morphine, we smoked a joint. Me and Shane had a little spat. We got out of there. Like, Victor got up and said, you can't be coming over here fighting. We went back to my house and he left. Like, Jason wasn't with us that day. Thank you. [00:44:46] Speaker 1: May I approach your honor? You may. [00:44:54] Speaker ?: Thank you. This is Sergeant Mark. So, sir. Here's this one. Set of documents. Mm-hmm. [00:45:15] Speaker 1: That's just the transcript of the moment that was never marked. [00:45:20] Speaker 2: What does it say at the top of that? Original list regarding Zach's stupid mouth. Brian Smith. [00:45:39] Speaker 1: How many pages is that document? One. [00:45:42] Speaker 2: Two. Three. [00:45:44] Speaker ?: Four. [00:45:45] Speaker 2: You're all right. [00:45:46] Speaker ?: I'd ask for that four page. [00:45:47] Speaker 2: That's it. You can sit. May I proceed, your honor? [00:45:50] Speaker ?: You may. Thank you. When did you hire Jennifer Thompson? Do you remember? [00:45:50] Speaker 1: When did you hire Jennifer Thompson? [00:45:51] Speaker ?: Do you remember? [00:45:51] Speaker 1: I was arrested February 28th, 2014. I was arrested February 28th, 2014. I was arrested February 28th, 2014. It was, I think it was later on that week she came. [00:46:09] Speaker ?: She was, her and Jim came. [00:46:09] Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I hired her right then, but she came on and it was right before the preliminary hearing at the Decatur County for the trumped-up charges that was later dismissed with Amber Bray and that. [00:46:49] Speaker 1: The charges where you held Amber Bray hostage? That? [00:46:52] Speaker 2: No. [00:46:53] Speaker 1: That was the accusation, correct? Until she gave you money? Until what? Until they gave you money? [00:46:59] Speaker 2: That's false. [00:47:00] Speaker 1: Okay. That was trumped up. [00:47:02] Speaker 2: Well how come y'all didn't prosecute that then? [00:47:05] Speaker ?: That's what I'm asking you. [00:47:06] Speaker 1: Is that the case you're talking about? [00:47:09] Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am. [00:47:10] Speaker 1: Okay. You were also indicted at some point for threatening to kill your brother Dylan Adams, correct? [00:47:18] Speaker 2: I don't recall that. [00:47:20] Speaker 1: You don't recall being indicted for that? [00:47:22] Speaker 2: You know, Miss Wyrick, from February 28, 2014. Do you know how many times the TBIs came? They've dropped the charges, recharged me. I've been charged with so many things. I couldn't even tell you how many times y'all have dropped charges, recharged me, charged me with stuff, tampering with evidence, all kinds of stuff that never went to court over. So, if you was to tell me that, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I don't recall, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't doubt it. [00:47:56] Speaker 1: The jury heard testimony that you tried to get Jason Autry to kill Dylan Adams, your brother. [00:48:01] Speaker 2: Absolutely not. That's a total lie. I love my brother with all my heart. [00:48:09] Speaker 1: The jury also heard testimony that you got word to Dylan Adams that he better keep his mouth shut. Was that a lie too? [00:48:17] Speaker 2: No, I did say that. I did say that. I was upset and that's the reason that all this happened is the lies that he told. [00:48:32] Speaker 1: When Miss Thompson came to meet with you each time, you spoke to her, right? Like, you answered her questions, y'all talked, you got along? [00:48:40] Speaker 2: Absolutely. [00:48:41] Speaker 1: Did she show up at every court appearance? [00:48:45] Speaker 2: Absolutely. [00:48:46] Speaker 1: Did she file motions on your behalf? [00:48:49] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:48:50] Speaker 1: She argued those motions? Yes. She subpoenaed witnesses to the trial? [00:48:55] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:48:56] Speaker 1: She asked you questions about, all right, I mean, where were you on April 13th, 2011? She asked you where you were and you told her, right? Yes. You gave her everything you knew, right? [00:49:04] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:49:05] Speaker 1: You gave her names of people to talk to? [00:49:08] Speaker 2: I did, but throughout that day there wasn't really a whole lot of people that I seen other than Rebecca. And like I didn't like throughout throughout April 13th, we went to Parsons. We didn't really run into nobody that day that I could I could specifically give them that, you know, I didn't run into anybody that I knew. I didn't get out. I don't recall getting out of the trucks after I left after I left the shell and then we got up there to the drug dealers house. I don't recall getting out of the truck except for up there at Joe's video. Other than that, I don't recall getting out of the truck that much that day. [00:49:37] Speaker 1: Would it surprise you to learn that Miss Thompson, in talking with one of the many consultants that she brought in on this case, shared with that consultant that you were not engaged, you were not talking, and that you had absolutely no short-term memory about these events because of all your heavy drug usage. And she was doing the best she could given the fact that you were not sharing information with her. Would it surprise you to learn that she said that? [00:50:06] Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me. At this point it wouldn't surprise me what anybody would say. If there's been some being the lies told on me, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised what anybody would say. [00:50:18] Speaker 1: All right. You were convicted by the jury. How long did they deliberate? You remember? I don't recall. [00:50:33] Speaker 2: It was a couple days. A couple days, wasn't it? [00:50:35] Speaker 1: They were out a while. It took a while to come back and convict you, didn't they? [00:50:40] Speaker 2: I don't recall them out. I know it was a couple. Okay. [00:50:44] Speaker 1: When you made the statement, "No body, no gun," to Mr. Cooper and Kirk, you were just talking? [00:50:54] Speaker 2: I don't recall making that statement, ma'am. [00:50:56] Speaker 1: Okay. When you made the statement, I couldn't have picked-- [00:51:00] Speaker 2: That's another thing. Y'all had those two inmates, but there was a corrections officer that was right there too. How come y'all didn't get her to come up here and testify that I made those statements? She was right there. She was right there beside me. I was in protective custody. They had me up there in a cell. I wasn't in general population. I was up there in the front in a cell all by myself. They had me right there beside the guard. How come y'all didn't get her to come say that? How come y'all had to get two inmates? Oh, let me guess. Y'all couldn't give-- y'all couldn't give her a deal. [00:51:30] Speaker ?: Okay. Do you have an opportunity to explain? Okay. [00:51:34] Speaker 2: You finished? [00:51:35] Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. You were convicted by the jury and then conversation started about the next phase, right? About the death penalty. Which fight I had to do over? [00:51:49] Speaker 2: I would have went on it and let them get the death penalty. It would have been-- it would have been-- I'd have got better appeals. I would have-- yeah, I would have went on it. If I had a hindsight been 50/50, I would have went on it. I wouldn't have took this deal. [00:52:01] Speaker 1: Well, you could have-- you could have taken a deal, Mr. Adams. [00:52:04] Speaker 2: I shouldn't have though. I should have went on and let them get the death penalty and then let these death penalty activists fought this. And then the truth would have came out and all the shady stuff that has went on, like the ATM video, and all the stuff that's been hidden and covered up would have came out. [00:52:19] Speaker 1: Well, then why didn't you tell your lawyers, sign me up for the death penalty? [00:52:26] Speaker 2: I should have. [00:52:27] Speaker 1: They came to you and tried to get you to plead to something lesser than life without parole, right? [00:52:32] Speaker 2: I would and I ain't going to. I never will. I won't ever plead to nothing. I'm innocent. Why would I plead to something I didn't do? Okay. That'd be stupid. [00:52:40] Speaker 1: After you were convicted, did you begin having conversations with your lawyers, right? About the next phase or did they not talk to you about it? Did y'all talk about it? [00:52:48] Speaker 2: We talked. [00:52:49] Speaker 1: Okay. And they said the state is willing to take death off the table and give you life without the possibility of parole, right? Did they say that to you? [00:53:00] Speaker 2: They did. They did. They come back and they said the first time, I believe it was, they didn't want me to have no appeals. I said, no, no, no, absolutely not. [00:53:12] Speaker 1: So you took life. [00:53:14] Speaker 2: I do remember. I do remember that at this point, there was some animosity between Mr. Jim Simmons and Jennifer. Because Jim came to me trying to get me to plea out behind Jennifer's back. And then after I said, no, I'm not pleaing out to something I didn't do. He made me sign a motion. He wanted me to write a motion to the judge because he wanted to recuse himself. Which I did. [00:53:41] Speaker 1: You pled, you accepted life without parole, right? [00:53:48] Speaker 2: I did. [00:53:49] Speaker 1: Okay. What year was that? [00:53:54] Speaker 2: 2017. September. [00:53:56] Speaker 1: Do you remember writing a letter to Ms. Thompson in 2018? Do you remember writing a letter to Ms. Jennifer Thompson in 2018? [00:54:06] Speaker 2: I don't recall. Do you have, if you've had the letter? [00:54:10] Speaker 1: I do. Jennifer, hear me out. I can take care of myself. Please get me off of Max. I'm sorry. I was trying to see if he remembered the language of it. [00:54:21] Speaker 2: Is this your handwriting? I can't see that far. [00:54:25] Speaker 1: No, I am. Is this your handwriting? [00:54:27] Speaker 2: I can't see that far. All right. [00:54:29] Speaker 1: I'll just pass the witness, Your Honor. Is that the writing? [00:54:43] Speaker 2: That is. [00:54:44] Speaker 1: Okay. I would ask that that be marked as the next numbered exhibit. Mark it as exhibit 119. [00:54:53] Speaker ?: Second page. Okay. Where at? I wanted to go to trial and you made that happen. Remember telling her that? [00:55:00] Speaker 1: Well, that's what happens when you don't plea out. So, I don't believe that she made that happen. [00:55:03] Speaker 2: I believe that that's part of the court system. [00:55:06] Speaker 1: That's what happens whenever you don't take a plea, you go to trial, right? Is that your writing? That is my writing. [00:55:10] Speaker ?: Is that a letter you sent to Ms. Thompson? That is. [00:55:12] Speaker 2: Okay. May 22nd of 2024. [00:55:14] Speaker ?: Excuse me. [00:55:14] Speaker 2: Okay. May 22nd of 2024. Excuse me. Okay. Anything else? No. No, sir. Sorry. Thank you. [00:55:23] Speaker 1: No, sir. Sorry. [00:55:25] Speaker 2: Thank you. [00:55:26] Speaker 1: No, sir. Thank you. [00:55:28] Speaker 2: Okay. [00:55:29] Speaker 1: Okay. [00:55:30] Speaker ?: Okay. Thank you. Okay. That's part of the court system. That's what happens whenever you don't take a plea. You go to trial, right? Is that your writing? That is my writing. Is that a letter you sent to Ms. Thompson? May 22nd of 2024. [00:55:40] Speaker 1: Anything else? No. No, sir. Sorry. Thank you. May 22nd of 2024. Do you remember having a jail conversation? [00:56:02] Speaker 2: What's the date Ms. Weyberg? [00:56:04] Speaker 1: May 22nd, 2024. May 22nd, 2024. [00:56:07] Speaker 2: May 22nd, 2024. You're in jail. You're having a phone. [00:56:10] Speaker 1: Who was the phone call to you, Ms. Weyberg? [00:56:13] Speaker 2: Because I make lots of phone calls. [00:56:15] Speaker ?: Ms. Spierko. [00:56:16] Speaker 1: Okay. And she was needing instruction and help on burying something. You remember this? [00:56:27] Speaker 2: I don't recall Ms. Weyberg. [00:56:29] Speaker 1: She said she had something she needed to bury. She didn't say what it was. And you told her where to go. You instructed her to go to a piece of property that your family owned. You remember this? [00:56:42] Speaker 2: Mm. Okay. Yeah, I remember. [00:56:45] Speaker 1: You remember that? [00:56:46] Speaker 2: It seems like I remember. It seems like I do. Keep going though. [00:56:49] Speaker 1: You told her to go to that property and bury something and not to take a cell phone with her. You remember that? [00:56:56] Speaker 2: Okay. [00:56:57] Speaker 1: Do you remember that? [00:56:58] Speaker 2: It seems like I do. Okay. [00:57:00] Speaker 1: Do you know what it was that she needed to bury? I don't recall. [00:57:04] Speaker 2: Okay. Do you? [00:57:06] Speaker 1: Do you know what she needed to bury? I do. Okay. What was it? [00:57:14] Speaker 2: I don't really recall. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. [00:57:23] Speaker ?: It was. [00:57:23] Speaker 2: I don't really recall the conversation exactly. But it was. It was something to do with. The. If something happened to me. It was. It was. The story. The. My. So. If something happened to me while I was in prison. It was. It was. It was. The interview that I gave to her. Of everything that. That. The truth. That's what it was. [00:57:47] Speaker 1: Nothing further on. Thank you.