Lindsay Clancy Murder Trial — MA v. Lindsay Clancy — Full Opening Statements

[00:00:00] Speaker 1: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Cora. She had just turned five. She was sweet, silly, smart. She loved sparkly dresses and wearing bows in her hair. She loved princesses and baby dolls. She even tried to convince her preschool teachers at the beginning that her name was Sophia because she loved the Disney character, Sophia the First, so very much. Dawson. He was three. A boy's boy. He was a bit rambunctious, but funny, full of energy. He loved trucks. Construction trucks, fire trucks. And he spoke with a raspy little voice. Callan. Callan was just eight months old. Always smiling with chunky cheeks. A sweet little baby. We are here, ladies and gentlemen, because they are not. They were strangled. Deliberately and meticulously. Killed by this defendant on January 24th of 2023. One by one, she wrapped exercise bands around each one of the kids' necks and pulled until their little bodies were limp and lifeless. First, Dawson. [00:01:37] Speaker ?: First, Dawson. [00:01:37] Speaker 1: Then, Cora. And finally, Callan. Your job, ladies and gentlemen, is not easy in this case. The evidence will be difficult to see, to hear, to process. Testimony of witnesses, family, friends, teachers, people who knew the Clancy family, people who saw them regularly, people who saw them on the day in which this defendant killed them. They're all going to come before you, and it may be heartbreaking to hear what they have to say. You'll see photographs of the crime scene. You'll hear testimony from first responders. They're going to tell you about what they discovered when they came into the Clancy home at 47 Summer Street in Duxbury on January 24th. You'll hear evidence about the defendant during that time period, observations of her physical appearance, her demeanor. You'll hear testimony about what she was reporting to her friends, and family, and doctors during this time period. The list of witnesses is quite long. Law enforcement. Firefighters. Friends. Family. Teachers. Crime scene investigators. Forensic scientists. Toxicologists. Medical examiners. Experts. We expect over the next few weeks that you will be able to, or will be able to, present to you, a clear picture of what was occurring in the Clancy household on January 24th of 2023. We ask that you keep an open mind when you're hearing this evidence, and during the course of the trial, don't forget that you use your common sense and your life experience. Those are things that you bring as jurors to the courtroom every day, and it's what's going to take you into the deliberation room at the end of this trial. So what happened? On January 24th, 2023, it had recently snowed. It was, in fact, a Tuesday. Tuesdays were days that Cora and Dawson usually went to preschool. They attended the Learning Sprouts Preschool in Duxbury, but they didn't attend on Tuesdays, so on this day, they were home. On this particular day, Cora, who had just turned five, had an appointment at the doctor's, an annual checkup, and so the defendant brought her first thing in the morning to the doctor's. Defendant's husband, Patrick Clancy, was home, and he was caring for Callan and Dawson, while defendant took Cora to the doctor. Pretty normal. You'll hear and see that Patrick and the defendant exchanged text messages that morning. Patrick sends a photo of Dawson, who had just dressed himself that day, and he was jumping for joy, and he sends that text to the defendant while she's at the doctor, and while at the doctor, the defendant sends a text of Cora and her little Johnny and mask to Patrick. When the defendant and Cora returned home that morning, Patrick went downstairs to his basement office to do work, same as he had normally done on any other day since returning from paternity leave, and then the defendant was charged with caring for the kids for the rest of the day. She put Callan down for a nap, bundled up Cora and Dawson, took them outside to the backyard, and played in the snow. They built a snowman. The defendant sent pictures of the snowman and the kids in the snow to Patrick when he was working in the basement, and her mom, who was living in Connecticut, who had just been there that weekend but had gone home. The day proceeds as normal. You'll hear Patrick describe it as a good day, actually. In the late afternoon around 4 p.m., the defendant searched on her phone for Kids Miralax. She searched takeout 3B, and she opened the Apple Maps on her phone and searched the route that it would take to get from their house to the 3B restaurant in Plymouth. She searched how much time and how far it was. Now, this restaurant had been a place that the family had eaten before, but wasn't their normal takeout spot. She also called CVS and asked them about the kids' Pedialax, or Miralax. And that's because, at the doctor earlier that day, the doctor had recommended a laxative Procora because she had some stomach issues. She had complained of an upset tummy at school the day before, you'll hear. She had some issues, but she didn't like to go to the bathroom at school, a little bit embarrassed. So they suggested the Pedialax. So she calls CVS, and she confirms that they actually have it at their local CVS in Kingston. Then she sends a text to Patrick and asks if he wants to get takeout, if 3B is okay. She didn't feel like cooking dinner. It was a long day. He says, sure. She calls in the order. When Patrick leaves the house around 5.15 that evening, everything is normal, seems normal. He sees Dawson eating chicken nuggets and green beans on the couch before he walks out the door. Patrick leaves to go to 3B, and he's going to stop at CVS on the way there. That's when the clock starts, ladies and gentlemen. The defendant knows that Patrick has to stop at CVS, go to 3B. She knows that it's about 5 miles from their house to get to the restaurant. She knows approximately how much time she has for him to go there and come back. She then takes the children down into the basement. She separates Dawson from Cora and Callan, and then she proceeds to wrap exercise bands around each child's neck and pull until they are dead. She leaves the bands wrapped around each child's neck and goes back upstairs. In the kitchen, she gets a knife, and then she proceeds to the second floor of the home. In the middle of this, she misses a call from Patrick. He's at CVS. She misses the call. She calls him right back, and they talk for 14 seconds. Nothing that she does or says in that phone call is of concern to Patrick. He proceeds on his task, and she proceeds with hers. She goes to the second floor master bedroom, locks the door, crushes up some pills, and attempts to take her own life. She uses the knife she got in the kitchen to slash her wrists and her neck. She moves the bed away from the wall, away from the window. She opens that window and goes out. She lands on the cold, hard ground. Shortly thereafter, around 6 p.m., Patrick comes home. He's got the takeout bag and the CVS bag with the medicine. He enters into the house through the mudroom door into the kitchen area, places the bags down. Eerily quiet. He calls to the kids. No answer. He calls to the defendant. No answer. He takes out his phone and dials the number for Lindsay's phone, defendant's phone. No answer. He then goes upstairs and finds the master bedroom door locked. He opens it and enters the room, sees blood, and the window open. He then goes to the backyard, and that's where he finds the defendant. He's on the ground, outside that window, moaning and mumbling. At 6.11 p.m., he calls 911 for help. First responders arrive to the home almost immediately. He's still on the phone with 911 when the responders arrive, and they go right to the backyard and tend immediately to the defendant. While they're with the defendant, Patrick tells the first responders, I need to find my kids. He had asked the defendant where the kids were, and she told them they were in the basement. So when he went in the house, that's the first place he went, down into the basement. He's still on the phone with 911 when he finds each child with an exercise band still wrapped around their neck. He screams for help, and he says, she killed the kids. Efforts made to resuscitate Cora and Dawson were futile, but first responders from Duxbury and the surrounding communities were persistent, and they kept trying to resuscitate them all the way to the hospital. But when they arrived at the hospital, there was nothing more that medical staff could do for Cora and Dawson. The staff at Beth Israel were able to get a heartbeat on Callen, but he never started breathing on his own. He never regained consciousness. He had no brain activity. Nonetheless, he was transferred to Boston Children's Hospital, where he died three days later on January 27th. The defendant was taken to South Shore Hospital, and then transported subsequently to Brigham and Women's in Boston. She had multiple traumas, including spinal injuries, as well as superficial injuries to both her wrists and her neck. She is paralyzed. We expect during the course of this trial that you'll hear the defendant made claims that either right after Patrick left the house or after he called her from the CVS, depending on which version of the event she's telling, she heard a voice. A male voice. A voice that she had never heard before. A voice that she'd never heard again. And that voice told her that it was her last chance. That she had to kill the kids so that she could kill herself. She immediately took action when she heard the voice, with no direction or details from this so-called voice, and she killed the children. Once she killed the children, the voice stopped. When you consider this information in the course of the trial, ladies and gentlemen, I ask that you consider the source, the timing, the substance of her statements about this voice. You're also going to hear from, or you may hear from, forensic psychologists and psychiatrists who talk about what's called command hallucinations and voices that people hear before they do something. And when you hear that testimony, I ask that you keep in mind the details of what she's saying the voice told her and the details of when this voice spoke to her. Another important thing to remember throughout the course of this trial is that this is not a case about the Lindsay Clancy that sits before you today. This case is about the Lindsay Clancy on January 24th, 2023, at the time of the crimes. This was not a woman in the throes of psychosis on January 24th, 2023. This was a woman who acted intentionally, rationally, and swiftly to accomplish a very specific goal, to kill. You'll see and hear evidence about all the things that she did that day, what she did in the days leading up to this incident, leading to the murders. You'll hear her spending time with her family and friends. You'll hear her appearing to be in good spirits and doing better, for all intents and purposes. On that very day, you'll hear she interacted with people at the doctor's office. She came home and took care of the kids. She talked to people on the phone via text message. The evidence will show you she was not psychotic that day. Throughout the evidence in this trial, you will learn about the defendant being the classic overachiever in school, in her personal life, in her nursing career. She was someone who liked to control every little detail of her life, of her family's life. In contrast to pictures you'll see of the doting mother, the dedicated nurse, you'll also see a side of Lindsay Clancy that's different. Somebody extremely controlling, meticulous, and manipulative. The days were laid out with specificity. Strict schedules were expected to be maintained. Food was planned carefully. Sleep was scheduled to the minute. And at the time after Callan was born, her last baby, the family had to adjust. And by all sources that I expect you're going to hear at that trial, that summer was great. But after Patrick had finished his paternity leave and was back to work full time, when she no longer had a nanny to watch the baby do laundry, tidy up the house, follow her schedule, when she was responsible for it all, when she was responsible for it all, it was hard. It was hard for her to maintain that control. It was hard for her to bond with her kids. And in efforts to maintain control, she withheld information from her husband, from her doctors. She reported serious symptoms that were inconsistent with her daily activities, you'll hear. And ultimately, on January 24th, 2023, the defendant made a calculated decision. This was a woman who no longer liked the life she thought she wanted. It was getting harder and harder to control. And when she saw the opportunity to escape, she made the selfish choice to take it. And to take Cora, Dawson, and Callan first, before attempting to take her own life. Ladies and gentlemen, this is not a public debate about women's mental health and how the medical system treats women. This case is about this defendant, Lindsay Clancy. There is no dispute that she was dealing with mental health issues during this time period, prior to the murders. There will be medical records, medical doctors, mental health professionals that will talk about treatment, prescriptions, hospital visits. All that's going to be before you. The evidence will show that this defendant had a means and access to mental health that most people don't. And she chose to deal with her mental health issues in the worst way. She chose to manipulate her providers, seek out the quick and easy fix when she was feeling depressed and anxious. And when she didn't get what she expected, she chose an alternate route. She sought a different doctor. She changed medications after days. She disengaged from treatment when she didn't like the plan. After only four months in treatment, she made a choice, a deliberate and intentional decision that she did not want to try anymore. And because no one could take care of her kids the way she wanted them to, she had to take them with her. Despite all the precision that she exhibited that day, you'll hear, the timing of it all, the swiftness of the killings, overcoming the interruption of Patrick's phone call, what she did not anticipate was that she would not be able to complete the act by killing herself. Ladies and gentlemen, people with mental illness commit crimes every day and are responsible for them. The fact that someone may suffer or have a mental illness or mental disease or defect is not the end of the inquiry when it comes to guilt or innocence. It is whether a person can appreciate the wrongfulness or criminality of the conduct and conform their conduct to the law. Do they know what they were doing and can they control their actions? The evidence in this case will prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this defendant coldly and efficiently executed first, Dawson, then Cora and finally Callan. One by one, she strangled the life out of each one of them. She did so with no hesitation, with deliberate premeditation and extreme atrocity and cruelty. She is criminally responsible for the murders because the evidence will prove to you that she knew exactly what she was doing. She drew her husband out of the house, their father, so that she had the opportunity and the time to carry out these murders. She maintained the ability to control her conduct, conform her conduct, when she attempted to kill herself to escape the consequences. At the conclusion of this case, we're going to come back and we're going to ask that you return guilty of the murders of Cora Clancy, Dawson Clancy, and Callan Clancy because the defendant committed those crimes. [00:19:57] Speaker 2: All right. Thank you, counsel. Mr. Reddington, do you wish to give an opening? [00:20:01] Speaker 3: I do. Thank you. Your Honor, I might use the easel, may I have to place the front of the TV screen so that the jurors are able to remove the message. [00:20:48] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Just put it here. [00:21:10] Speaker 3: You know, normally, we thank jurors for your time away from your life, your jobs, your family. Coming to court, listening to a trial, certainly is a service that's provided by you as citizens. But in this case, God bless you. You people are going to have to listen to some of the most horrific things. Look at some of the most horrific things. In jurors, it's a beautiful system. You pass between, as you've heard Don's clerk say. You probably don't remember it, but it's all language comes back to old England. It says that you as jurors pass between the government, them. and she places herself on her country, which country you are. You owe allegiance to nothing but your oath, your consideration, and your time, your common sense. You bring your life experience to this trial. You render a verdict. And as jurors take the job very, very, very seriously, you people will never forget this case. And thank you for that service. The government says that this is a situation, it's not a referendum on women's having babies and having postpartum psychosis, postpartum depression, but it sure as hell is. Because you're going to hear, consistent with what is untold you in the instructions, consistent with the obligation that the government has when they brought this charge, they brought this charge, Tim Cruz, the DEA, right in the front row brought this charge. He knew, as did his office, the facts of this case. and he knew when he brought this charge that it was going to kill the soul of this young woman. And they would bring their evidence in front of a jury that she knows that she killed these children. We'll sit here, listen to their evidence, but I suggest to you that the issue consideration is what was going on in that woman's mind. You're going to hear evidence that as the government said, Lindsay was a kind of a parent-pleaser. She was a person that in school had a lot of friends, still has friends. You'll hear evidence to this day from the sixth grade, high school, college, nursing school. You're going to hear evidence that Lindsay, in the course of being in high school, she was a high achiever of gymnastics. Stopped doing gymnastics because she hurt herself and didn't like to do the backflips and stopped doing gymnastics, but she was very athletic. You're going to hear evidence that right after she had the birth, the last child, within four or five days, she ran a 5K. She was very, very, very physically fit. Her life was such that she watched what she ate, watched what she did in her life as far as activities, and was one heck of a mother. She loved her children. All the things that the VA said to you about those little kids and their life and what they liked, she knows a thousand times more than what they know in that capacity. As a mother, daily, you'll see evidence that she would decorate looms, that she and Patrick did have that achievement of a wonderful life. They had it all. They met in Boston. She was a young nurse out of school. He was working in his industry. They ended up falling in love. They got married, bought a nice house. People say they're living in this mansion. No, they're living in a very, very humble house in Duxbury that they had to struggle to pay for. That house you will see, not from the view, because it's not enough that we have photographs. On top of the photographs, we have to do a video. On top of the photographs and the video, we have to have an auto-computerized animated display. And on top of the photographs, the video, the animated display, we have to get on a bus and go take a ride. And look at the house, where some guy and his wife are now living, that it doesn't look at all like what it looked like when Lindsay and Patrick were living there with their three kids. But there are videos that show what that home looked like that day, prior to that. you'll see in every room, there are things hanging on the walls, alphabets, colors, numbers, pictures of different cartoon characters and I'm too old to even remember what they are. Movies, all sorts of toys, erector sets, trucks, all over the living room. There was no dining room. It was a large thing for the baby to be in and surrounded [00:27:16] Speaker ?: and surrounded [00:27:16] Speaker 3: by toys. Every single room had toys in it. These children were loved and nurtured and cared for by her. She didn't want to get rid of her kids because of her selfish life as the government indicates. She loved those children right up to the time of their death. You're going to see that there's photographs in this case that you will be able to evaluate that show that. Some of them might even be in the videos that the state police took. This case is a massive production by the district attorney's office. You have the district attorneys, the assistant district attorneys, the assistants to the assistant district attorneys. You have the state police crime laboratory. You have the detectives. You have the state police, the armed men that will go out and interview witnesses and will investigate this case. You have the victim witness advocate, very nice lady by the way, that deals with witnesses and people in a case such as this. It's a massive operation, and that's great. We should have that. But when you're considering the evidence, you consider the fact that you have two young people that were living this life, that were working, and Patrick, not because of COVID, not because of he just didn't want to work in an office anymore. He worked out of his basement. He worked in an office in the basement. He was there because of what Lindsay was going through. He was there. He lived it, and he will testify to it. He doesn't have to testify, quite frankly, and identify clothing, and be distraught, and placed in a position of horror in this courtroom, but he will testify to what they went through as a husband and a wife, the wife being pregnant. They had three kids. After the second child, she had postpartum. You're going to hear evidence that that's one of the issues that is important because that could lead to bipolar. One of the things that you don't do, which is taboo, is if you have somebody that's bipolar, you don't put them on an antidepressant, you don't put them on Zoloft, you don't put them on what's called an SSRI, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, it messes with your brain. You don't do that, but it was done in this case. The reason that Lindsay went to the doctors was in September of 2022, July and August of 2022, they were very happy, lovely little family, September, things went sideways. And she looked for, and you heard the government say, and remember what they say in [00:30:05] Speaker ?: their opening, [00:30:06] Speaker 3: and remember that when they prepare a case, and remember how they can point at different aspects of the case that show guilt, that show that somebody is conniving. In this case, how many times we heard she faked her suicide, faked her suicide, little cuts, dinky little cuts, scratches, you'll hear stated in the opening statement, or time of the arraignment, that she asked for a lawyer. That's rich. You're going to hear evidence that she was in her bedroom after the horrific act in the basement, and that she was up in the bedroom, that she stood in front of a full-length mirror, that she took the knife, the knife that was in the kitchen that she had taken. When she took the knife, she cut her throat in front of the mirror. This is no fake suicide. This is her when she was brought to the hospital. When she was in the hospital, that's what her appearance was at the South Shore Hospital. When she's at the South Shore Hospital, she had wonderful care and treatment that was able, against her will, to save her life. fake suicide, little scratches, dinky little scratches. This is photograph that was taken at the South Shore Hospital of her neck. Photograph taken of her wrist, showing the split in the skin. Photograph showing, you'll see evidence of this, the bedroom, floor, next to the bed, with the blood. next to the cup. Sadly, a gift saying, because kids. You see the white residue inside the cup? That's where the pills were crushed up with leftover lemonade from the night before, and she consumed that. That's the night. This here, you'll see, is sleep aids. See this deep sleep pillow spray. She couldn't sleep. She couldn't sleep for months. More photographs of the injuries to her neck. and then in the course of the fake suicide speculation by the police, you'll see the evidence that she hung on the window ledge and like Spider-Man, I guess, slid down the wall of the house. You're going to hear evidence that she flung and threw herself out the window, striking her head neck on the ground, cold ground, causing what's known as a Jefferson fracture of her neck. She shattered, exploded her thoracic spine, shattered her cervical spine, the first disc, broke every rib. And the Jefferson fracture you'll hear evidence is not consistent with a fake suicide by any means. Jefferson fracture is consistent with Superman when he got thrown off the horse. It's consistent with people that have the tragedy where they dive into a swimming pool as a result of which they get that fracture in their neck and they're paralyzed. She's paralyzed. She's not going to get up miraculously and walk out of this courtroom. was paralyzed and will be paralyzed for the rest of her life. She's living her own hell. She knows what happened with those kids and she wanted to die. When she was in the hospital you're going to see evidence. Brigham and Women's Hospital when they transferred her from South Shore Hospital air flight into Brigham and Women's Hospital and she was then given the emergency room and the emergency treatment at the Brigham and Women's Hospital you couldn't move in that room there was so much equipment so many wires so many breathing tubes so many machines humming banging clicking and she spread out like she's crucified on the bed while she's being treated in that room surrounded by armed police officers out in the hallway guarding the hallway against what anyone could guess guarding the hallway guarding the room guarding the bed standing there she's handcuffed to the bed she goes to the South Shore Hospital government speculates that again you see how the government is able to create what they want for facts that she is so cold and calculating that she said that she's heard voices after I brought a psychologist Dr. Zizel into that room to see her I had to move heaven and earth you'll hear evidence that they wouldn't even let her have visitors she couldn't even see her family for over a week the cops wouldn't let anybody near her that room was an armed camp I had to move heaven and earth and practically get a court order to be able to get in there and see her while she's laying in the bed and they suggest and will suggest that she said I heard voices I heard command hallucinations telling me to kill the kids and then kill myself after she talked to Paul Zizel as if he was telling her what to say because I'm the lawyer and I brought him into that hospital you're going to hear evidence that Paul Zizel is one of the most respected psychologists you're going to hear evidence that he was embedded with the military in Afghanistan for years you're going to hear evidence that he works for the government when there's a shooting involved in the FBI CIA or any of those alphabet soup cops he's involved out interviewing these people for post-traumatic stress I knew that he was the man to talk to this young woman in the hospital when I finally was able to get into that room into that hospital he was with me he did not tell her command voices he as a human being gave her a cell phone so she could call Patrick but you know what you're going to hear evidence from a woman who works at Brigham Women's Hospital who saw Lindsay as soon as she came out of her home she is a woman that works with the religious services in that hospital and the first thing that Lindsay wanted to know is where's my family and then she told her about what happened and told her about the command voices and this is well before she ever met me but Paul's eyes on so you have to keep focused on the evidence because it's so easy to manipulate there's no fake suicide and there was no plan to fake her sickness this is the young woman that with her husband tried very hard to get the help she needed she went and saw a doctor by the name of by the way remember in the opening the government said she shopped around for doctors I guess that she wanted to get doctors to I don't know give her drugs or something you can hear evidence that she went online and she looked for someone that was into neonatal post baby delivery because she knew that she was in trouble she couldn't sleep she had insomnia it wasn't just you know when you get up in the middle of the night because your phone's on she couldn't sleep she only got two hours a night three hours a night if she's lucky as time went on in September she went to see Dr. Tufts Jennifer Tufts is the name of the doctor Jennifer Tufts then gave her prescription the Zoloft which is an antidepressant it's one of those SSRIs she didn't take the Zoloft for a couple of weeks because she was breastfeeding she was afraid to have the baby have anything to do with drugs but ultimately couldn't do it any longer took the Zoloft and was spun out of control because you didn't hear evidence because she was bipolar you don't give a bipolar person Zoloft but she got it you're going to see what the effect was that it had on her as that week went on as that month drove on and she couldn't sleep and she was unable to emote had no emotions had no feelings was unable to really react to anything but had to take care of the kids and as the government says well she was able to talk to people she was able to talk to neighbors sure you're going to get it because they don't follow we're going to follow people that knew Lindsay as a mother people that knew Lindsay teachers of those kids will indicate what kind of a mother she was as will neighbors as will friends as will people that saw her during that period of time you're going to hear evidence from Patrick as to the effect that this sickness had on her she was looking into it you're going to see her google searches you're going to see her google searches go on and on and on about how to take care of postpartum what type of drugs can you become addicted to benzodiazepines what about is it possible to have a treatment a ketamine treatment what do I do as far as insomnia what do I do about my thoughts to kill myself ways to kill how do you kill what do you do to kill government lashes onto that oh my god she's looking up ways to kill let's make that a basis of our prosecution on this case this is not a righteous prosecution they're looking for every single piece of evidence that they can to show some ridiculous concept that she wanted to kill her beautiful kids because she didn't want to be a mother anymore this is a woman that was a nurse she worked for one of the best hospitals in the country she was in the labor delivery you're going to hear from labor and delivery nurses that will tell you how dedicated she was Cora was named after the very very first baby that she delivered as a nurse in the hospital that's where the name Cora came from Cora was named after her first delivery this is a woman who did nothing in her life but dedicated her life to helping people and be a good person and a good nurse and a great mother and as time went on looking like anyone else would please help me that's what it's all about give me help and people consider the government will say god she was able to talk to people she wasn't drooling she wasn't putting tin foil inside of a hat when she was going to the schools no she was able to talk to people we actually have we meaning the government we have video of her and Patrick and the kids at the museum of science and they were actually having a good time we also have video that shows them down at the Cape Carter down the Cape with the kids in their invading suits I guess she was fine she put on a pretty good face so what does she do she goes to see September 12th of 22 if you look for a psychiatrist that's when she hooks up if you will with Dr. Jennifer Tufts early October of 22 initial appointment October 20th of 22 reports the adverse reaction that she was having to the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors OAuth November 16th she goes to the South Shore Hospital emergency room because she was so depressed and so maxed out from lack of sleep and so unable to emote she couldn't laugh she couldn't cry she couldn't have any feeling she was a robot she went to South Shore Hospital she was referred and engaged with South Shore Perinatal Behavioral Health this was Patrick's mother this is Patrick's mother Mrs. Clancy who's a nurse well-respected nurse wonderful woman she works at the South Shore Hospital labor and delivery as well she knows Lindsay and she told Lindsay you gotta go to this outfit here which was the South Shore Perinatal Behavioral Health she didn't look them up because she wanted to get drugs she was referred by her mother-in-law who's a nurse she went to see these people November 21st of 22 when she was engaged at the South Shore Perinatal Behavioral Health she's going on one drug to the next to the next the drugs that she was prescribed you see here and you'll hear evidence that first off Jennifer Tuss September 15th 22 sertraline that's Zoloft then Lorazepam October 21st Jennifer Tuss then Hydroxazine Jennifer Tuss Lorpazam Jennifer Tuss Buspirone Jennifer Tuss Lorazepam increase Jennifer Tuss Buspirone increase from 1 milligram to 5 milligram Jennifer Tuss Trazodone from another individual Floxatine 10 milligrams from another person named Julie Paul Julie Paul worked at the Soshua hospital when she went there to go to try to get some help from Soshua perinatal behavioral health more medications spiraling continuing on down cat live this and he will testify to what they went through at this point at the end of November around Thanksgiving she's reporting disassociation and confusion they put her on her emerald this is around Thanksgiving things were so bad at this point that her mother and father came up from Connecticut and lived with them to take care of the kids to help because she was walking around absolutely a zombie she would rock on the sofa crying hysterically banging her head into the pillow of the sofa Patrick will tell you what he observed with her she dealt with her parents her parents were there to try to help is this someone that's faking because she doesn't want to be a mother anymore the parents were there mother and father wonderful people mothers retired dad took pictures of high school kids for yearbooks they did what they and they went by the way during the holidays down to Connecticut at one point to visit with the family but December 4th she calls a suicide hotline seeking help December 5th she's evaluated by what's known as the Aspire crisis team you'll hear evidence about that December 6th the next day they have an appointment with Nurse Jalata now Nurse Jalata comes into this action because again not looking for more doctors Paul retired or left or went to another job so all of a sudden Nurse Paul who was treating her and prescribing meds leaves here's Nurse Jalata she's now going to be your person you deal with that's all she wasn't looking for some other doctors to get additional medication she now is dealing with Jalata they have an appointment with Nurse Jalata and Pat goes with her because he was so upset and says to Jalata you'll hear evidence do you think possibly that she's over medicated do you think somebody screwed up and she says it's possible and then she puts her on more medication she puts her on okay December of 2022 you're going to see that Nurse Jalata who is now on this chart is in blue Nurse Jalata puts her on quetapine 25 milligrams November 30th December 6th diazepam 5 December 7th diazepam December 7th quetapine December 9th diazepam 5 December 13th diazepam and then she goes back to Jennifer Tufts because they just couldn't handle dealing with Rebecca Jalata because she wanted to wean off the drugs Jalata told her to stay the course she ends up going through December 19th 21st 22nd dealing with quetapine 300 milligrams of quetapine now what happens is they then suggest that what she has to do is go to Mass General Hospital she goes to Mass General Hospital at Mass General they say well you can do like a day program or you can go to this fantastic program down in Rhode Island called Women and Infants Program so she goes to Women and Infants Program she goes down for a day she sits there in a group with other mothers and they talk and they look at her medication and they say you're going to see the medical records we can't really help you as postpartum and that's what they specialize in because you've got medications that you're going to have to clear because the medications can be affecting you she was there for a day one day they never said anything you're not suffering from postpartum postpartum every one of these doctors and nurses knew that she was suffering from postpartum and now it's turning into psychosis now as she goes through the period of time in January 5 Aliyah Goodhart from McLean Hospital puts on trazodone 50 milligrams lorazepam 1 milligram leaving the hospital she goes to that hospital on New Year's Eve she and Patrick decide this is it the two of them get in their car family takes care of the kids she goes to the hospital now it's locked wards she goes into the hospital she is there for five days four days during that period of time she is there she is in group she doesn't see a doctor but once there's no discussion of medications until the very end you'll see the medical records you'll look at the medical records you'll see that her daughter's birthday was coming up and she wanted to leave rather than home she went home and she went to the birthday party the government will have witnesses apparently to show that she was able to socialize like hi Hawaii at the trampoline where they had the birthday party for Kora she's still living her nightmare during this period of time January 9th back to Jennifer Tufts puts her on diazepam Jennifer Tufts kicks up the Rebecca Jawada puts her on diazepam and by the way when she was down at Rhode Island in the nurse and babies hospital service the people that were treating her for that one day reached out to Jawada to find out what's up with the medication Jawada never called them back you're going to hear evidence and it's in the medical records that when she and Patrick called Jawada to say I gotta wean off this she didn't want more drugs she wanted off the drugs Jawada says stay the course she's going on vacation I'll see you in a week comes back in a week you're going to see that now Jennifer Tufts puts her on diazepam 2 milligrams on January 16th amitriptyline 10 milligrams January 16th diazepam and diazepam between Tufts and Gelata the last script is diazepam 2 milligrams January 23rd during that period of time you can see that on December 20th and 22nd she was evaluated at the woman's infant partial hospitalization program in Rhode Island December 30th she returned to Mass General Hospital emergency room December 31st that's after Mass General told her to go to the hospital you can go to McLean New Year's Eve December 22 they were admitted to McLean Hospital for psychiatric treatment January 6th of 23 was post discharge follow-up appointment with Dr. Tufts January 10 16 and 23 appointment Dr. Tufts Dr. Tufts Dr. Tufts the day before the killings had filled that she took that she didn't take and apparently according to the opening statement by the government was manipulating the doctors not telling the doctors she told them that she was suicidal she told them that she had suicidal ideation and in December to his and her ever dying regret told Patrick in the presence of her mother that she was having psychosis thoughts of hurting the children this is a woman that did not get the medication did not get the medical treatment that she so deserved this is a woman that was suffering from psychosis at the time that she went down to that basement she had no motive she loved her children she intended to kill herself she didn't fake that threw herself out the window most of the hospital you're going to see that when she's in the hospital they said to her wanted they called a DNR do not resuscitate absolutely did not want any DNR didn't want to be resuscitated wanted to die to this day wants to die that's what we're dealing with on this prosecution so you're going to hear from witnesses it's going to be emotional and thank you for your service all [00:53:40] Speaker 2: right members of the jury we're going to take the morning recess at this time all right I'm going to ask you to go out again don't discuss the case we'll be back here probably about 15 20 minutes and we'll begin with the Carmel's case all right so we'll be in recess at this time all right council we need to discuss anything this time