Sara Duterte Impeachment Trial Day 11 Highlights: Fiery Courtroom Showdown — Roderick Wamil — N18G

[0:00] comment from council for respondents we have no objection to the applicability of the uh rule [0:06] invoked your honor by the distinguished opposing council without prejudice to our right to test the [0:11] accuracy of the table at the proper time and to individually um question its authenticity during [0:18] cross or during this presentation and to be given copies as well should you so desire correct subject [0:24] to cross you on um council may proceed in accordance with rule 130 section uh 3c in relation [0:31] to section 7 in relation to um given that the documents are indeed voluminous and for the [0:39] information of the senator judges this does not in any way detract from the fact that the documents um [0:46] the acknowledgement receipts do exist only that they are too voluminous therefore the witness will [0:51] be testifying based on his summary of these documents instead of individually [0:56] council for the panel of prosecutors may proceed thank you your honor for the ruling now i will show [1:01] you a select few of this acknowledgement receipts and for better appreciation of the honorable [1:14] impeachment court we will be flashing some select few exhibit p dash one dash eight dash one eight four [1:26] showing to you mr witness this exhibit it is an acknowledgement receipt in the name of mary [1:32] grace piatos for the amount of 70 000 pesos please peruse this document and tell us if this is among [1:44] the acknowledgement receipts that you said you received and evaluated based on the submissions of the [1:54] office of the office of the office of the vice president this arpo is among the acknowledgement receipts [2:03] submitted by the ovp to ikvau okay before we go to this particular exhibit in the name of mary [2:11] grace piatos for 70 000 pesos tell us mr witness ano ba talaga ibig sabihin ng acknowledgement receipt [2:20] well actually wala siyang provision uh doon sa joint circular pero ito kasi ay uh parang proof of [2:31] nareceive noong pay yung binayad sa kanya so acknowledgement receipt as the name suggests [2:41] acknowledges na nareceive na nareceive niya yung payment from the payer po so in a acknowledge [2:47] ng isang mary grace piatos na tumanggap siya na magkano based from this acknowledgement receipt [2:55] po tumanggap po si mary grace piatos ng 70 000 pesos for the payment of rewards close and open [3:01] parentheses medicines ano bakit dalawa to payment of rewards tsaka medicines ano ibig sabihin [3:10] ang binayad sa kanya na reward ay gamot hindi ko po ma-determine based on this uh document alone [3:18] po kaya po kami nagpapasubmit ng uh additional documents and also since it is payment of [3:23] rewards po hindi rin po enough lang na it acknowledgement receipts kailangan din pong [3:29] um ma-comply yung provision noong joint circular as to the payment of rewards okay so itong mary [3:38] grace piatos acknowledgement receipt ay sinasabi mo na violation ito ng joint circular bucket [3:45] dahil hindi po ito properly supported by document evidence successful which is required [3:52] under 4.8.5 of the joint circular 2015-01 okay incidentally mr witness pag merong pangalang [4:01] mary grace piatos e kayo ba ay nag-i-investigate or kasama ba ng post audit nyo mag-assertin [4:09] sino ba itong mary grace piatos ah since what we do po is compliance audit so ang tini ang [4:18] nagiging basihan lang po namin ng audit ay kung ano yung ah nakalagay or piniprescribe ng joint [4:23] circular 2015-01 pero dun sa joint circular naman po kasi hindi naman nakalagay doon na kailangan [4:30] mga tingnan namin yung ah recipient nung payment okay i will show you another document mark for the [4:40] prosecution attorney pena p-1-8-619 another piatos name renee piatos pakibasa the amount is one [4:59] council council council is renan piatos renan i'm sorry renan piatos renan piatos ang amount eh 110 000 [5:12] pesos at ang date ay 12 27 2023 being flashed on the screen for better appreciation of the honorable [5:22] impeachment court what observation can you make or have you made as regards this acknowledgement receipt [5:30] um based on this acknowledgement receipt po binayad po siya noong december 27 2023 which is [5:37] one year po after nung ah supposedly coverage nung kanilang cash advance for confidential [5:43] fund kilan ba binigay ulit itong cash advance december 27 2023 po based on this document [5:50] pero what actually is the correct date if you know um i cannot determine po the correct date [5:57] based based based on this uh document pero dapat po kasi ipasok siya doon sa coverage nung kanilang cash [6:03] advance based on the document submitted to equal so hindi ito pasok yes ma'am based on this [6:10] document yung period of payment yung date of payment po ay hindi pasok doon sa um coverage nung kanilang [6:16] cash advance anong tawag doon yung hindi pasok discrepancy um hindi po siya uh discrepancy hindi lang talaga [6:28] siya pasok um parang the payment was made outside the coverage noong um with the permission of council um [6:35] um december 21 to december 31 2022 yung covered period don disbursement yung um confidential fund [6:44] mr ramil right yes your honor so when you say hindi pasok um hindi pasok dun sa period na yun [6:49] december 21 to 31 2022 yes for your own dahil 2023 nakalagay na taon supposedly [6:57] tama yes for your honor okay you may proceed council 12 months na hindi pasok 2023 exhibit [7:06] p dash one dash eight dash four one third 13 413 in the name of nova santos for the amount of 85 000 [7:21] pesos anong observation mo dito sa acknowledgement receipt na ito if any um since it is uh payment of [7:31] rewards po in closing open parenthesis various goods dapat ay supported po ito ng document of success [7:38] as prescribed under item item 8 4.8 point 5 of the joint circular 2015-01 ano bang kinoconsider [7:45] ng koa ikfaw na document of success um actually wala akong specific na document as prescribed [7:53] under the joint circular pero kapag may sinambit po kasi sa amin tinicheck namin if the uh if the [7:59] requirement of the joint circular is met so tin tinitignan po namin yung relationship between the [8:05] successful uh as information gathering or surveillance activities vis-a-vis yung information given by [8:12] the informer i'll show you now b p p dash one dash eight dash five three one in the name of miko p harina [8:35] for 295 000 pesos again ang nakalagay dito hindi pasok 12 31 20 23 leading your honor objection [8:51] okay i will reform kindly what can you say what can you observe about the date indicated there if any [8:59] um the date um the date po indicated in this document is december 31 2023 as the date po nung [9:05] receipt of payment but and what significance can you draw if any from this date um it is outside [9:11] po dun sa period po nung kanilang disbursement which is december 21 to 31 2022 and the purpose [9:21] ano yung purpose na naka-indicate dyan ang nakalagay po ay payment of purchase supplies okay itong purchase [9:27] supplies na ito 295 000 worth of purchase of supplies what documents if any were submitted [9:38] ang sinamit po nila to indicate ano ano ang mga supplies worth 295 000 na binili noong one year after [9:52] 12 21 2023 meron bang dokumentong sinabmit at kung meron ano ano yun [10:00] ang mula po silang document na sinamit ito lang pong acknowledgement okay p-1-8-643 in the name of [10:11] janice marie revilla na investigate mo ba kung kamag-anak to ni senator bong revilla mr witness [10:26] mr witness that is beyond our scope of audit okay and the amount is 70 000 pesos again [10:39] for purchase of information dated 12 28 2022 any observation on this acknowledgement receipt [10:51] um wala naman po akong nakita ang observation dito sa acknowledgement receipt na ito since [10:55] yung purchase of information is among those allowable expenses naman po under the joint circular 2015-01 [11:02] patiting patiting patiting p-1-8-5-6-7 for 150 000 pesos [11:14] 12 23 20 22 parang hindi katiting patiting patiting for purchase [11:28] of information of information ang observation mo any observation since ang allowed naman po ang purchase [11:38] of information under 4.8 of the joint circular wala naman po akong nakita ang observation with [11:43] with respect to this acknowledgement receipt p-1-8-545 in the name of odi or andy c lim for 50 000 [11:57] pesos and andy ah andy lim kanya ko pala hindi mabasa and andy lim para kay andy lim 50 000 [12:19] pesos ang date 12 21 2023 ano ang observation mo ulit kung meron man [12:29] yung date of payment po december 27 2023 is outside the coverage po nung kanilang period [12:35] of disbursement which is december 21 to 31 2022 kung merong andy lim siguro dahil [12:44] objection your honor uh i'm sorry but uh i've been giving leeway to opposing counsel but i think [12:50] she's been coloring you know the contents of the documents more than what is showing [12:55] i'm just reading it says here and it says andy lim i i i think you know my point it's like patiting [13:05] that's the way it's spelled and the next one maybe you will object again it's alejandro a pikit [13:11] i was gonna say exactly your honor our point your honor um council council for the panel of [13:20] prosecutors i think you know what the council for the respondent is talking about yes kindly proceed [13:24] accordingly okay alejandro a pikit p-18-544 for 90 000 pesos and the date here again is 12 21 2023 [13:38] purchase of information any observation mr witness uh yung date of payment payment po na december [13:46] 21 2023 based on this document is outside po dun sa kanilang period of disbursement [13:53] p-1-8-556 being shown to you and flashed on the screen is for fiona biong for 80 000 pesos 12 22 [14:05] 2022 also for payment of information any comment mr witness um wala naman po particular observation [14:16] on this ar kasi yung purchase of information is allowed down under 4.8 of the joint circular and the [14:23] the and the last two also for payment of information p-1-8-654 for sis sis ronio balsak balsak [14:39] for 70 000 pesos and p-1-8-615 for gabriel s bisaya for 70 000 pesos 12 27 20 22 any [14:54] observations mr witness are yung date of payment po na december 27 2023 which is outside the coverage [15:05] po nung kanila period of disbursement now having shown you having shown you selected few of this 845 [15:20] acknowledgement receipts can you confirm now that the ones shown to you and those that are part of your [15:29] summary stated in your tabulation are the documents submitted to you by the office of the vice president [15:39] by way of liquidation of monies allegedly paid to alleged payees and for alleged purposes [15:50] yes po ma'am i will go now to the office of the vice president what happened next if any [16:03] um from what time from what period po yung tinatanong nyo from the date of after after you received the [16:15] response of the office of the vice president what action did you take if any um i evaluated for the [16:23] response the explanation contained in the response as well as the documents for attached in the response [16:29] and um nag-issue po kami ng notice of suspension dahil hindi pa rin po comment yung kanilang submission [16:36] sa ikfao again can you remind us what a notice of suspension is um based on the joint circular 2015-01 [16:49] uh notice of suspension is a written notification to the uh head of the agency and the uh agency [16:57] accountant uh informing them of the temporary disallowance in audit of the disbursement because [17:03] it appears that the disbursement is uh illegal irregular or improper and that they are required [17:11] to submit an explanation or justification or the documents being shot in the uh notice of suspension [17:17] or both if a notice of suspension is shown to you p-1-13-a which is a common exhibit with the [17:26] defense would you be able to identify the same yes ma'am and uh for better appreciation of the [17:35] honorable impeachment court you may proceed counsel in your notice of suspension which you said you [17:55] issued and which is a common exhibit what were your recommendations there at um in this notice of [18:04] suspension po katulat po nung in explain ko kanina may mga payment of rewards silang ginawa in [18:10] in cash in medicine and in various goods pero hindi po supported properly supported with any [18:15] document evidencing success as prescribed po in item 4.8.5 of the uh joint circular that is uh [18:23] observation number one po we are flashing on the screen and uh for easy reference this has been boxed [18:35] jolona what else i'm also in in the ns po yun katulad din nung sinabi ko kanina meron silang mga [18:42] purchases na ginawa which is yung uh purchases of medicine which were given as rewards in purchases [18:49] of various goods ay yung purchases of various goods which were given as rewards yung purchase supplies [18:55] yung tables and uh that uh tables and chairs at yung desktop printers and computers [19:00] uh uh supported lamang ng acknowledgement receipts uh instead of sales invoices or official receipts [19:08] and also with respect to the purchase tables and chairs and uh desktop printers and computers hindi po nila [19:14] in indicate if these purchases were intended for the confidential operations of the office of the vice [19:20] president what else is here in your notice of suspension third po yung um yung ibang acknowledgement [19:31] receipts po yung receipts of payment ay naka december 2023 at yung ibang acknowledgement receipts [19:37] ay wala pong date kung kailan ni receive ni pay yung payment po if if these acknowledgement receipts [19:47] there are certain acknowledgement receipts dated 2023 if shown to you would you be able to identify the [19:54] same yes ma'am showing to you now acknowledgement receipts dated december 20 2023 beyond the period [20:13] december with beyond the covered period of the last quarter of 2022 please go over these documents [20:22] existing council may show the witness the documents your honor please this notice of suspension as i [20:58] mentioned earlier is a common exhibit your honor and i will call the witness to please take a look at [21:05] annex a of this notice of suspension which appears to be a tabulation of this undated and dated undated [21:15] undated and dated 2023 acknowledgement receipts are you looking at it annex a what is the total mr [21:41] witness based on your annex a of your notice of suspension of the total amount for acknowledgement [21:52] receipts issued for a period not covered by the confidential funds um can you clarify po yung question [22:01] yung mga dated december 2023 po ba yun yes mr witness um based on this annex po yung total nung mga [22:08] acknowledgement receipts dated december 2023 ay 25 million 606 000 pesos [22:15] for 2023 25 million 606 000 what about confidential funds liquidated based on undated acknowledgement [22:29] receipts na walang date um undated baseball is that also shown in your annex a yes po ma'am can you tell [22:38] this court how much that amount is for undated acknowledgement receipts [22:46] no walang petcha ang total amount po ay 3 million 276 000 pesos okay and pag tinotal natin ito magkano [22:57] lahat ito ang nakalagay sa notice of suspension no yung undated tsaka this december 2020 um bali ang magiging [23:09] total po ay almost 29 million pesos po sa notice of suspension what others what other findings [23:23] are stated there are as a notice of suspension po um may findings din po about the about some expenses [23:34] po na pinresent doon sa kanilang acknowledgement receipts na hindi presented doon sa kanilang accomplishment [23:40] report report what else mr witness um number five po dun sa notice of suspension katulad po nung sinabi ko [23:51] kanina yung total expenses nila based on the acknowledgement receipts ay umabot ng 125 million [23:57] 150 000 which is uh 150 000 in excess po doon sa kanilang um total expenses based on the accomplishment [24:05] report report now 125 million let me try to understand this nag issue no total is sobra nagliquidate [24:16] pero ang liquidate nila ay sobra sa amount na 150 million ang ginastos po nila based on the [24:23] acknowledgement receipts ay sobra po compared dun sa laman nung kanilang accomplishment report may discrepancy [24:30] discrepancy po na 150,000 pesos what happened my notice of suspension what [24:37] happened after you issued this notice of suspension after poma issue yung notice [24:42] of suspension ay wala na po akong personal knowledge since nag transfer na po [24:46] to other audit sector of the commission on audit thank you mr. witness we have [25:00] just finished the liquidation of the last quarter of 2022 we are we are mindful [25:08] your honor of the request of the presiding judge to end at 2 30 would you like us [25:15] to continue there are three more quarters for the office of the vice [25:18] president and the department of education we can start for 10 more [25:24] minutes or we can end here let's end at 2 30 council let's try to use up the time