Nick Shirley: FRAUDSTERS thought they could get away with THIS

[0:00] Let's bring in independent journalist Nick Shirley, who is exposing alleged fraud from [0:04] Minnesota to right here in California. Nick, great to have you on the show as always. [0:08] Who better to talk about the Stop Nick Shirley Act than Nick Shirley? I want to play some sound. [0:13] This is Mia Bonta, who is married, by the way, to the Attorney General of California, [0:19] Rob Bonta. She's pushing this. Watch. Individuals who provide vital immigrants [0:24] to support services, including legal aid, humanitarian relief, case management, [0:28] and advocacy are facing targeted harassment. This is not hypothetical. Advocates and workers [0:34] are receiving death threats being targeted at courthouses and facing coordinated online [0:39] doxing campaigns. So what she's saying here, Nick, is you're not uncovering fraud. No, no, no, no. [0:44] You are going around and you are harassing people from Minnesota to California. What's your response [0:49] to that? Yeah, well, my response is stop using these communities to commit fraud and no one ever [0:55] have any speculation about fraud taking place when we know that the fraud is very much real. [1:00] I mean, the Somalis in Minnesota, they stole hundreds of millions, billions of dollars. [1:05] And then the hospice fraud that took place inside California, everyone was saying that was bogus. [1:09] And then her husband actually tried to take credit for exposing the hospice fraud after I had [1:13] went and exposed the hospice fraud. So my message to her would be stop using these communities to commit [1:18] fraud. Yeah. And, you know, we had Katie Zachariah on the show last night and she was talking about the [1:24] stop Nick Shirleyak. She was also talking about Mia Bonta and how deceitful it is that she's [1:31] literally turning this into something that it is not even close to being. And her husband is running, [1:36] you know, the highest law enforcement officer in the state. Here's Katie. [1:41] It is very, very disturbing that you have the wife of the attorney general introducing a bill [1:45] that silences, that chills First Amendment free speech investigating this fraud and absolutely shows [1:52] that they don't want to expose fraud. They want to keep hiding it. [1:55] But here's the thing. I mean, it's got to make you feel kind of good here, Nick, [1:59] because they are running scared. They're villainizing you and the governor has villainizing you. [2:04] If they are going after you, you got to be close to the target, very close to the big target and [2:10] they know it. Well, obviously hit a nerve. And what's interesting about this, this bill is it's protecting [2:17] NGOs and nonprofits. These are people, these are organizations and groups that receive our tax [2:23] dollars, yet they want to make it so we can't find out what they're doing with our tax dollars. [2:27] If nobody knew about these NGOs, nobody would know that they were trafficking children into the United [2:33] States with these immigration support providers or services that they are providing inside the state [2:37] of California underneath Biden. And so by doing this, they're literally saying, hey, don't look in [2:43] here because we got lots of fraud. Yeah, I mean, that's exactly what they're saying is, no, no, no, [2:48] no, don't look here. Don't look there. J.D. Vance was at the cabinet meeting this week and he was [2:52] talking about how important the work is of uncovering fraud. He said this. [2:57] One of the people that Todd just prosecuted was a person who was collecting a lot of money from the [3:04] American taxpayer to take care of elderly citizens. That particular case was outside of Minneapolis. [3:09] We expect that there are tens of thousands of people who are collecting fraudulent money to [3:15] take care of people and they're not actually taking care of them. We're, of course, going to get to the [3:19] root of as much of it as we can. I mean, you talked about hundreds of millions and billions. I mean, [3:23] this is tip of the iceberg kind of stuff, right, Nick, where you go out and you know and I know that [3:29] this problem is worse than anybody ever imagined. Talk about that. Well, the fraud has been going on for so [3:36] long. These fraudsters thought they could get away with it for so long that so many people started [3:41] committing this fraud. And so now you're seeing people like me go and expose them and they got [3:46] away with it for so long they didn't even try to hide it. I mean, look at the leering center right [3:49] there, for instance. Yeah. Yeah. They literally got away with it for so long that they thought that [3:55] nothing was going to happen. And now that the fraud's starting to be exposed, they're just like [3:58] literally freaking out because they know their time's up or they know that they could be the one to be [4:03] investigated next. Yeah. I'm wondering that the act is called the Stop Nick Shirley Act. It's not [4:08] the official name, but everybody calls it the Stop Nick Shirley Act. Are they going to stop Nick [4:13] Shirley? I mean, is this going to be the end of it or are they out of luck? No, I think they're out of [4:19] luck. If not, it just motivates me even more to go and expose it because that just means that there's [4:23] even more. That's what they don't, that's what they don't get is by trying to silence somebody. [4:27] They're just going to make them want to go out and do something even more. And so I don't think it's [4:31] going to stop me. A $4,000 fine. That's what they're trying to propose if you do it because [4:36] they're literally trying to make it so you can't post videos on social media. I think a lot of [4:39] people would support me in helping pay for those. $4,000 fine, billion dollar gain. Yeah, I think [4:44] I know where people are going to come down on this. Nick Shirley, great to have you on the show. [4:48] Best of luck. Great work as always. Thank you.