Nicholas Irving on U.S. in Iran Over 60 Days, Secret Service Failing Trump (Full Interview)

[0:05] Here we go. Back with another episode of The War Report, sitting down with my brother, my friend, Sergeant Nicholas Irvin. Nick, what up, brother? [0:14] What's going on? Glad to be back. [0:17] Yeah, kid. A lot to talk about. You know, it's a lot to talk about and a little to talk about at the same time because this war seems to be at a standstill. [0:28] A stalemate. A stalemate. Yeah. [0:31] Yeah, very much so. [0:33] Somebody's bluff is getting called is what it is. Yeah, someone's bluff is getting called. [0:37] But I'm going to tell you, Nick, you called this early. [0:41] Yeah. [0:41] You called it early. I want to say the very first episode of The War Report. [0:47] Mm-hmm. [0:47] You made it very, very clear that this enemy would not relent. We are fighting a very different type of enemy. [0:58] They know they're going in there to die, get arrested, get shot, whatever. That don't matter. [1:04] It's martyrdom. They want to go meet those, whatever they believe in, whether it's 72 versions or $72 million in cash in the afterlife. [1:13] I don't know. But whatever they believe is out there waiting for them, that has more power than it does here in this reality, in this world. [1:22] We're too caught up on the next fucking iPhone that's coming out. I got to be alive for that. I got to be alive for this next little thing. They don't mean shit. [1:34] They don't think that. They don't think that way. We don't have that same ideology to where we're willing to die for something that we believe in. [1:41] If we did, our government would not be where it's at today. [1:44] Oh, yeah. [1:46] You can't go in guns blazing and think that's a way that's going to bring them to their knees, bring them to the negotiating table. [1:53] Right, right. [1:54] And everything you said so far is held true. [1:57] It's almost like Afghanistan. It's like where empires go to die. We're talking about a country that's been around for thousands and thousands of years, [2:05] like a reigning empire, you know, in that region, for that matter. You just don't wipe out that civilization or that ideology in a matter of weeks or months. [2:16] They've been around for thousands of years, 6,000, whatever, 7,000 years. They've been around for a long time. [2:24] These people, these people. Yeah. You don't you don't kill these people easily if you can. [2:31] Well, truth be told, it's not about physically killing them. [2:36] Their ideology, as you have mentioned, their resolve, their threshold for pain. This is different. [2:46] You know, and I think we're all learning this in real time. [2:51] I think we're learning it in real time. And I think we're starting to see that you can't bully your way out of a conflict or a war, for that matter. [3:02] You can't bully your way out. I mean, like I said, these people have a I don't know if it's their religion, [3:10] their culture, their upbringing. I don't know what it is, but it's so different than the average American where, you know, we've been around for what? [3:19] Closing in on 250 years. [3:22] Correct. [3:22] Most of us don't even. I mean, we're I don't know. We become like a complacent nation, if you want to call it that we become lackadaisical, very relaxed nation. [3:35] We don't really know what a struggle is like. I mean, I think the last struggle that America really had, I would say, what was like the Great Depression. [3:44] And, you know, I don't know too many people, not even I don't know anybody who was alive from that time. [3:49] We haven't had struggle like that. I mean, we get shit goes south and we start like running to Walmart and Target to buy up all the toilet paper. [4:00] You know, that that's like our our mentality, like, oh, shit, I need toilet paper for whatever is about to happen. [4:07] Those people over there, no, they go pick up AK-47s and RPGs. [4:11] So well said. You're absolutely right. Any emergency, any threat of a storm, any threat of a hurricane, you can go to any Walmart. [4:27] They're sold out of toilet paper. They're sold out of water. They're sold out of any basic necessity that you can think of because Americans cannot be in discomfort for any measure of time. [4:43] Exactly. Exactly. And these people have been going through discomfort for thousands of years, hundreds of years, constant violence, war. [4:52] Imagine if like, you know, job forbid that a country was like, hey, our multiple countries, we're going to come in, invade America, the United States, the panic that would, you know, ensue in America. [5:05] I mean, what's the first the number one purchase will probably be like bedsheets at that point or some socks like, no, go get go get bullets, go get guns. [5:15] Yeah. Get your mind right. They've been. And that's the thing. How can you get your mind right? [5:20] We've never been through nothing like this. You know, it's just a completely different ideology. [5:24] We don't really stand for much. In my opinion, we don't really, as a nation, what do we, the average person stand for? [5:32] You know, over there, at least, it's like they all stand behind what they believe. [5:37] We don't even know what we believe in this country. We don't even know if a boy is a male or a female. [5:44] We don't we can't agree on the simplest things. Biology. [5:48] How are we going to agree on one common task to go defeat somebody? [5:51] I mean, we were so divided right now. It didn't make sense. We thought we came together after 9-11, but look how long that shit last. [5:59] You know, it wasn't long before we were back to our old petty pettiness. [6:04] These people can and can endure and stand behind what they believe in for, you know, to the last man standing. [6:15] Damn, you hit on so much. You said we can't agree on the basics on biology. [6:21] How real is that? I mean, we have watched, you know, things like In God We Trust been taken out of the schools, been taken out of any public organization. [6:37] You can't have God said anywhere. Right. Right. [6:41] Right now, men and women are fighting about what gender means. [6:46] You know, at one time, it meant if you were born a female, you're a female. [6:53] You were born a male, you're a male. It's not that simple anymore. [6:57] I just learned about you are dead on. I learned about something. [7:00] It was like this past couple of days. I didn't know it was like in some school systems. [7:06] Somebody was telling me about it. Their kid in the school system and they're called fluffies. [7:11] I think fluffies and kids can identify with like an animal, like a kid is like, hey, I'm a tiger and they have to go along with that. [7:20] The teachers, I'm like, oh, hell no. I mean, it's so much confusion right now. [7:25] That's not even confusion. That's just stupidity. It's stupidity. [7:30] No, but, you know, we live in a society where everybody's protecting their mental health. [7:38] Everybody is identifying as whatever they want to be. [7:44] And God forbid you address them as you know them to be. [7:49] So if somebody identifies as a pit bull, you best call them a pit bull or you are politically incorrect. [7:57] You know, you're going to be shamed. [7:59] No disrespect to the Miami rapper, pit bull, but that's the only dude who's pit bull. [8:05] Yeah. But other than that. [8:08] But, you know, I want to get deeper into this war conversation, but I want to I want to go into this past weekend's events, if you don't mind. [8:17] Oh, yeah. [8:17] And then we'll bring it right back. [8:19] Another day, another attempt on President Trump's life. [8:28] White House Correspondents Dinner took place over the weekend. [8:33] Guy runs in, shotgun, couple of knives in hand, bypasses the metal detector, lets off a couple of shots. [8:43] At this moment, are you even surprised when you get that breaking news? [8:50] There was an attempted assassination on the president. [8:55] Does that surprise you anymore? [8:56] Not at this point. [8:57] I mean, it's Teflon Don. [8:59] Obviously, the name ring is starting to ring really true, you know, but the whole thing was. [9:06] I mean, if you you got a group of people who don't believe that it was even real, like a real assassination attempt, they think it was like a staged event. [9:15] Then you got the side that believes that you just have a terrible secret service. [9:22] You have terrible protection. [9:25] And I mean, I just saw a video this morning of one of the canine handlers, his dog. [9:31] When that dude forget his name, Colin Allen or whatever. [9:35] Yeah. [9:36] Cole Thomas Allen. [9:37] Cole Allen. [9:37] Well, yeah, he had went into the room wearing his get up, his Fortnite attire, and one of the dogs had alerted to him and the Secret Service dude walked away with the canine and maybe like a second, one or two seconds after that, you see this dude doing the, you know, 40 yard Usain Bolt dash through the metal detector, popping off shots. [10:02] And like, I think the entire, I mean, we've seen it time and time again, how lax that is equal, how you can watch a Hollywood movie about the Secret Service and you get this one perception of them and then you see them act in real life. [10:18] And you're like, man, you guys are, I mean, at this point, they need to pick up the phone, call some SEAL Team 6 dudes, call some Delta, mainly Delta Force guys, call like all those dudes, retired, active, and have them protect. [10:33] You know, I was doing a better job when I was in my 20s protecting guys like, at the time, vice presidents, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton. [10:43] I protected these people overseas in Iraq when I was contracting and we did a, never had one single attempt on anybody's life. [10:50] You were, you're not that good, but now we were just that good. [10:54] You look at the Secret Service and it's like, man, they need a whole reform, like reform everything, the shooting package, protection package, everything. [11:03] This guy was able to pop off some shots and you telling me that you didn't drop this dude, doesn't make it, that, that doesn't make any sense. [11:11] One, two, how you even got into the, I mean, the security, the outer perimeter should have been a little bit more protected, a lot more protected. [11:19] But he could have, he could have potentially done way more damage if he had, and he had time to plan this thing through, I guess. [11:30] He traveled from, what, California? [11:32] But I'm not going to say what could have happened or what I would have done, but there was potential there for there to be like a mass casualty event. [11:42] Especially if you're going into a situation like that, you know you're not going to make it out. [11:46] That would be my guess. [11:48] That would be my first thought. [11:49] Like, if I'm going to go execute something like this, I'm probably not going to make it out at that level. [11:54] I would have done it that way, but if I'm a mortar, if I'm, you know, suicide by assassination attempt on the president, I'm not taking the Keanu Reeves Matrix gear fucking loadout. [12:09] I'm not taking that. [12:11] No. [12:13] We're one, the tactics that were used overseas, I'll say this, some of the tactics that were used overseas, like, we're a split second away from seeing that stuff happen here. [12:22] Oh, yeah. [12:25] I mean, he was able to make it, yeah, however he got from Cali to here with all these weapons and got in the, through the outer perimeter of protecting the president. [12:34] It's kind of wild. [12:36] The reaction times was wild on the Secret Service and everything about it was, was hella weird. [12:42] Sketch. [12:44] I was going to ask you, where did you see the fault? [12:51] You know, is this something that could have been prevented? [12:53] Uh, are people right when they say that the Secret Service need to step their game up? [13:00] If, if I'm hearing you correctly, you're echoing those thoughts. [13:03] A hundred percent. [13:03] Secret Service is, is just not doing what they were trained to do. [13:08] Oh, yeah. [13:09] It, it's not like the movies. [13:11] It damn sure ain't like the movies. [13:13] I had a different perception about them from the Hollywood films and stuff, and I had a chance to work with the guys. [13:19] And I've had a chance to shoot with their sniper team. [13:22] A few of them had came down to a training facility that I used to work at, and I was not impressed. [13:29] And then asking them questions, like, what if I decide, and not getting deep into it, but there's, when I found out, like, yeah, we couldn't stop X, Y, and Z, if you decided to do X, Y, and Z, I was like, God damn, that is, that's wild. [13:46] And they didn't shoot as good as I thought they would, not as good, no, not as, your average spec ops sniper shoots better than, like, their, a lot of their snipers, especially when it comes to distance, especially when it comes to distance. [14:02] Your Secret Service, I ain't gonna say that, yeah, it, it, we shoot really good, especially at distance. [14:09] I just got done three days ago shooting half mile for a production I'm working on, live, yeah, half mile away. [14:20] And I'm hitting targets that are smaller than your chest. [14:24] Okay, let me, let me pick your brain on this. [14:32] Um, you were surprised that this guy lived. [14:37] Yeah. [14:37] But some would say that shows the professionalism of the agency. [14:46] They were able to de-escalate, no one got killed, and in some rights, that should be seen as a success. [14:57] You being former military, you being somebody who, uh, watched over ex-presidents, do you see that as a success, or do you feel, no, there should have been a casualty. [15:13] In this equation. [15:15] One hundred percent, there should have been a casualty. [15:17] Like, one hundred percent. [15:18] Dude, I mean, he left the manifesto, allegedly. [15:21] I mean, if he's already shooting shots, there's only one option. [15:28] I have to connect. [15:30] And it's not just on this instance. [15:31] You can go back to the golf course one, on that, uh, the dude was hiding out in the bushes at the golf course. [15:37] And a Secret Service agent was, you know, shooting some rounds off of this and didn't hit shit. [15:42] I mean, I don't, their shooting package, whatever it is, like, revamp that. [15:47] I know a guy, and his name sounds like Nicholas Irving. [15:50] Y'all want to learn how to shoot. [15:52] I mean, call your, call, call somebody. [15:55] Call somebody. [15:56] Stay at a Holiday Inn, Inn Express, or something. [15:59] They just ain't shooting the way I, I'm, no. [16:03] He's already shooting people. [16:04] I mean, he's already putting shots off with a shotgun. [16:07] You don't, I mean, yeah. [16:09] A shotgun can be devastating, especially if it's loaded with slugs. [16:14] But, yeah. [16:17] If you can go back in time and ask those Secret Service agents, you know, what they wish they would have improved or done better or done different. [16:25] But I'm telling you, when the dude was running out of that little room through that little, the metal detector, that first dude who aimed and fought, he should have dropped him. [16:36] He should have emptied half the mag on him. [16:38] If not the whole thing, did a little tack reload, maybe popped another, you know, a couple more in him. [16:43] But that's how you stop a threat. [16:46] You don't jujitsu a dude down with fucking guns after he shot at you. [16:50] That's just not my, yeah, I can't fathom that. [16:55] Like, I'm going to take you down Bruce Lee style, Jackie Chan style, and you're shooting at me with a shotgun? [17:00] You got a pistol? [17:01] You got knives? [17:02] No. [17:04] I'm going to keyhole your shit. [17:06] Yeah. [17:09] Okay. [17:09] You're an Army Ranger. [17:12] You've told me on several occasions when you guys go in, it's destruction. [17:17] Mm-hmm. [17:17] Y'all are going, and you're leveling the place. [17:20] Mm-hmm. [17:21] Period. [17:22] Oh, yeah. [17:23] This is what we do. [17:24] Send somebody else in to clean up, but we're just coming in, and we're just dropping people. [17:29] Oh, yeah. [17:31] You may not know the answer to this question, but does the Secret Service, are they trained with that in mind? [17:40] Or are they trained to just de-escalate? [17:44] Maybe from their training, hey, you know, you guys are not Rangers. [17:50] Um, you're not SEALs. [17:54] Mm-hmm. [17:54] You guys are specifically trained, first and foremost, de-escalate. [18:00] Mm-hmm. [18:00] And then, if necessary, light them up. [18:04] Yeah. [18:05] Dude, when you were able to shoot and work with these Secret Service agents, did they ever give you just an idea of what their training was? [18:15] Most of those guys are, like, used to be former street cops, like, walking the beat, you know? [18:22] Um, but when it comes to the mentality of, like, de-escalation, you can't de-escalate with a dude who's already actively shooting at you. [18:32] Like, there's only one way to quiet that noise, you know? [18:36] There's only one way to alleviate that. [18:38] I think that, like I said, it was some missed shots at a very close range with a pistol, and it's not the first time the Secret Service within this presidency has missed some crucial shots at close ranges with a pistol. [18:50] The only ones who've actively engaged, they didn't try to de-escalate with that one kid who was up on the rooftop, um, and they shot him. [18:59] Yep, in Pennsylvania. [19:00] Yeah, they shot him in the head. [19:01] It was no de-escalation. [19:03] They plucked him, and that was after he was getting shots off. [19:07] Once he started shooting, the snipers responded, and then they ended that threat. [19:12] Fast forward to today, or recently, dudes running Keanu Reeves style, do the metal detector, lighting off shots, and not one of them people hit him. [19:22] They didn't drop him. [19:24] They didn't drop him. [19:25] They got him butt naked, put some aluminum foil blanket on him like they was finna cook his ass, and like a rotisserie chicken, had him naked, folded up on the floor looking crazy, like a Tamu fucking Tiger Woods. [19:44] Nah, you know, Nick, uh, I-I-I don't make it any secret. [19:55] I'm no fan of this administration. [19:57] I'm not. [19:58] Mm-hmm. [19:59] Um, but I don't want to see this president assassinated. [20:06] I don't want to see him hurt. [20:08] Yeah, yeah. [20:08] Just like I don't want to see anybody- [20:10] Right. [20:10] ...hurt or assassinated, for that matter. [20:14] I'm in the same boat. [20:14] But I have to agree with you. [20:15] It's like, damn, to our knowledge, this is the third time. [20:20] Mm-hmm. [20:21] You know, who knows how many attempts have gone on behind the scenes. [20:25] But to our knowledge, this is the third time this man has been president for his second term in under two years. [20:33] Mm-hmm. [20:33] Um, he-he-I think we are now at the year-and-a-half mark. [20:37] Wow. [20:38] Wow. [20:38] The year and a half mark. [20:40] So we're 18 months in, which means every six months there's a new attempt on this man's life. [20:47] How many more can you-I mean, that's-if I were him, unless, you know, it's all real. [20:54] If I were the president, I'd be looking at my Secret Service and trying to switch some people out, hire some new people. [21:01] I wouldn't know if-I mean, damn, I hope nothing happens. [21:03] I really do, because, yeah, it's just fucked up, you know? [21:08] But damn, 18 months and we're already, you know, three, four, whatever attempts at his life. [21:14] It's going to be a crazy next few years, couple years. [21:17] Yeah, I mean, uh, I-I-I think that he should, he himself should give the directive, no more talking, no more de-escalation. [21:32] Yeah. [21:34] This is about destruction. [21:36] Mm-hmm. [21:36] If somebody is trying to take me out, take them out and ask questions later. [21:43] Facts. [21:44] Yep. [21:44] You know, and-and, wow. [21:48] But it is what it is. [21:49] Um, the president had an opportunity to sit down with, uh, Nora O'Donnell from 60 Minutes, uh, the day after the attempted assassination. [22:03] And she asked him a question. [22:06] Well, actually, she asked him several questions. [22:07] But what I want to get to is she read part of the manifesto in which the shooter used the word pedophile. [22:19] Mm-hmm. [22:20] And Trump internalized. [22:24] He clearly thought that the shooter was talking about him, and he lost it. [22:31] Called her a disgrace, uh, you know, to her face. [22:37] Uh, he just let her have it. [22:40] Uh-huh. [22:41] Is-does he have merit, in your opinion? [22:45] Or should he keep a level of professionalism, being the president of the United States? [22:52] Like, hey, all she did was read an excerpt of this man's manifesto. [23:00] Isn't that crazy? [23:01] That, like, you're not supposed to shoot the messenger. [23:04] All she did was read what this dude wrote, and he was like, you know what, f*** you. [23:13] That's wild. [23:14] I mean, if I were, like, a psychologist, which I'm not, I got some street therapy. [23:22] But I'm like, bro, that's a sign of guilt. [23:24] Like, why you, why did I hit you so much like that, you know? [23:28] Why did I, why did I f*** you up so much, bro? [23:30] Oh, you know about them Epstein files, but damn. [23:42] Hey. [23:42] So, let me get this straight. [23:50] You're not a street psychologist, but something tells you that there might have been something in there that rang a little true. [24:00] Right, right. [24:00] Or hit a little too close to home. [24:02] Yeah, because why you come off, like, why you explode like that? [24:05] I would have addressed this, like, hey, he was clearly a demented individual, you know? [24:11] He had his, he had his issues, and I don't know who he's referring to, but to hear that word pedophile and be like, oh, s***. [24:18] You know what, the f*** you talking to, you know? [24:25] You know, worship, you know how Trump is. [24:30] You're a disgrace. [24:32] Your man broke character so quick. [24:34] Come on. [24:35] That means they hurt deep, you know? [24:38] Oh, my God. [24:42] Like, he broke character so quick. [24:45] He was like, yo, I don't care what my title is. [24:52] He's that, like we talked about last time, he's going after everybody. [24:56] He don't have any more, like, he's at the age where he just don't give a f***. [25:01] And he's letting everybody have it. [25:03] But I'm just saying, that word for some odd reason, like, he wanted to stay away from the whole Epstein thing, but that word, he knows what a comment is. [25:18] Oh, my God. [25:21] Nah, he wasn't happy at all with that word. [25:24] He wasn't happy with her. [25:26] And he let her have it. [25:28] Like, you know, to give her a little credit, she stayed in character. [25:33] She took the L. [25:34] I wouldn't. [25:38] Yo, chill. [25:39] I would have had to bring some stuff up. [25:41] Them pictures. [25:44] Uh-huh. [25:46] Oh, my God. [25:48] Okay. [25:51] Melania Trump. [25:53] You know, it's interesting because you don't hear from this woman. [25:59] Like, I don't know, because all first ladies, for that matter, they take on the cause. [26:09] Yeah. [26:09] Um, depending, you know, I remember back in the Reagan era, Nancy Reagan, say no to drugs. [26:15] Yeah. [26:16] All of that. [26:17] Uh, you know, ex-president Obama, Michelle, childhood obesity, working out. [26:24] I don't know what Melania Trump stands for. [26:28] I have no idea what she does during her day. [26:31] I, you know, it's very rare that you see her, for that matter. [26:39] Yeah. [26:39] When you do see her, she's pissy. [26:42] She has a grimace on her face. [26:44] I don't even think I've seen one smiling picture. [26:46] That's the Botox, bro. [26:47] That's the Botox. [26:49] Is that what it is? [26:50] That's the, I think it's the Botox. [26:51] Like, once you hit a certain level, like, when you start looking to become the, uh, the final Botox boss, like, you just don't have any more facial expressions in general. [27:01] Everything looks tight, stretched out, fucked up. [27:05] Yeah. [27:05] Yeah. [27:06] She could be smiling and laughing. [27:08] We wouldn't know. [27:09] You know? [27:10] You won't know. [27:11] Hold on. [27:11] She's at the level where she's, she's at that level where she's looking to be the Botox boss. [27:18] Yeah. [27:19] Her and Jeff Bezos' wives, I think, are, like, battling this shit out right now. [27:24] Jeff Bezos' wife and Melania Trump, I think they're, like, battling out who can, who's going to be the final Botox boss. [27:32] It's a couple of them, but I think they're in the lead right now. [27:35] And I'm not bashing nobody for taking Botox. [27:38] I don't know what this shit really does. [27:40] I just, I know what it looks like to me after, after a while. [27:44] Like, you stop losing facial expressions after a while. [27:47] Like, are you smiling or crying? [27:50] I don't, I just, I can't tell. [27:52] You just wake up with a bitch with a surprise all the time. [27:54] Like, this bitch always looking surprised. [27:57] I mean, I'm good. [28:00] I can't figure out what this woman, like, real talk, like, every time I see this woman, it's the same expression. [28:08] It ain't happy. [28:10] You know, they always try to depict Michelle Obama as, like, the angry black woman. [28:17] Yeah. [28:17] So, like, this woman, she always has, like, a pissed off look on her face, like, constantly. [28:25] Because of that money, I don't think it's enough money at this point. [28:28] I know at one point she did say, like, she didn't want to, she didn't want Trump to, like, rerun for office and she wasn't really feeling like being the whole first lady thing again. [28:38] And I believe so. [28:39] I may be wrong, but I've also seen videos where Trump is over there trying to get her hand and she's like, nah, f*** off me. [28:46] You know? [28:47] Exactly. [28:47] I've seen them things, too. [28:48] And I'm like, I just, I personally don't believe that it's a real, like, marriage. [28:53] I think it's a contractual thing. [28:56] I'm going to call this, I'm going to call her up, you know, give her some money. [29:01] And then after that, she goes about her whole thing. [29:04] But, I mean, the contrast. [29:07] I don't, I don't judge. [29:08] And I definitely don't judge dudes. [29:10] But I'm like, you really think he pulling that? [29:14] You know what I mean? [29:15] Like, if it weren't for the money, he wouldn't be pulling that. [29:19] No. [29:19] Well, you know, it's, well, I'm not, I can't speak what's going on in another man's house. [29:28] Mm-hmm. [29:28] But the truth is, from what we see as the public, she does give the look like I'm in a loveless marriage. [29:38] Yeah, yeah. [29:39] You know, I am in a marriage that, for whatever reason, it benefits me to stay. [29:47] Mm-hmm. [29:47] But I'm no longer in love with this person. [29:49] Yeah. [29:51] But interestingly enough, she puts out a tweet. [29:56] And she was infuriated by a comment or a joke that was made by Jimmy Kimmel that was done days earlier. [30:06] Yeah. [30:07] If you will. [30:08] You know, where Jimmy Kimmel says something to the effect that Melania Trump, she has a glow like a woman who's an expected widow. [30:17] Uh-huh, uh-huh. [30:18] And then a few days later, there's an attempted assassination of her husband. [30:23] Yeah, yeah. [30:24] So, there has to be love there somewhere. [30:27] That's if you believe, though, that she's actually tweeting this stuff out. [30:33] That's her publicist PR. [30:34] Yeah. [30:36] That's just to make the whole thing look the way it's supposed to. [30:38] I'm telling you, Melania doesn't have no fucking Twitter or social media. [30:43] She don't, uh-uh, uh-uh. [30:45] That's her publicist, PR people, whatever. [30:48] They're tweeting that stuff out. [30:50] I think Trump be tweeting, but not like with his thumbs. [30:53] I think he talks to somebody and they tweet that shit out for him. [30:56] He just freestyles and they writing that shit down like the people in court do, and they send that shit out. [31:02] But I don't think Melania touches social media at all. [31:06] So, you think Melania could give a crap. [31:10] She was like, yo, if y'all want to send it out, send it out. [31:12] Yeah. [31:13] And you could use my hand, dude. [31:15] But, like, I'm not even online. [31:17] I'm not on social media. [31:18] Exactly. [31:18] That's what I believe 100%. [31:20] I mean, she's got to look for the next Louis Vuitton bag that's about to drop. [31:24] You know, I don't think she got Tommy worried about Twitter. [31:28] Uh-uh. [31:28] She's got it, you know, she's got that relationship with a Secret Service dude or whatnot. [31:33] You know? [31:34] Yeah. [31:36] And, you know, and that might be true, everything you're saying. [31:39] And, um, but it's interesting, when I read the tweet, I'm like, well, maybe there is some love there. [31:46] You know, maybe she does just express her love for him different than we're used to seeing. [31:53] That's wild. [31:53] You know, than the way you're used to receiving it from your wife. [31:57] Could be. [31:57] Could be. [31:59] Possibly. [31:59] But you know what I found interesting is this administration fights so hard for the First Amendment. [32:10] Mm-hmm. [32:11] And what Kimmel said falls right in line. [32:14] I mean, he's well within his right. [32:15] Mm-hmm. [32:16] Mm-hmm. [32:16] You know, he has a freedom of speech. [32:19] Yeah. [32:20] And, you know, not for nothing, but her husband, I mean, this is a very, very divisive, I mean, the man, again, to Norah O'Donnell's face, she said you're a disgraceful person. [32:37] Mm-hmm. [32:37] You're a disgraceful person. [32:39] Yeah. [32:39] So I just find it interesting that, you know, she would go on social media, call for Kimmel to lose his job. [32:49] Yeah, yep, yep. [32:51] But wouldn't do the same, and you're married to a person who does nothing but badger, talk reckless, you know, humiliate. [33:03] I mean, this is, this is the same person, you know, he didn't, what was, and I forget the, uh, the governor. [33:13] Newsom? [33:14] Over in, not Newsom. [33:16] He's passed away since then, um, since over in, um, Phoenix, I believe, and, and he was a war vet, got captured, and. [33:25] Oh, McCain? [33:26] There you go. [33:27] Yeah, yeah. [33:28] You know, he, he, Donald Trump said some pretty harsh things about this man. [33:33] Yeah, yeah. [33:33] While he was alive and after he passed. [33:35] Yeah, yeah. [33:36] You know, didn't go to his funeral. [33:39] Yeah. [33:40] It's crazy. [33:42] And that's the thing about freedom of speech. [33:43] I mean, people hoot and holler about having freedom of speech, and it's, you know, it's acceptable, but it's only like when it fits what they feel, what they believe. [33:54] Like, if you remember those times, and it still goes on all the time, I'm talking about, like, the, the viral times, where the one at the park, and she's calling a kid, and all these other folks to be calling, and they raise all this money, and it's like, no, it's about freedom of speech. [34:10] Even the whole social media, that one content creator, I'm gonna call it content creator, this fucking weirdo, that, like, antagonizes black folks or whatever, and calls them, and, and, oh, he's chimping out. [34:22] Like, that's all classified as freedom of speech, and it's all good, but the minute you start saying something about that, you know, what Kimmel has said, granted, it's fucked up as it is, they're all fucked up, but it's freedom of speech. [34:35] You just didn't like that, because that's your guy, you know? [34:38] There you go. [34:39] That's it. [34:39] You hit close to home. [34:41] Exactly. [34:41] But once, yeah, freedom of speech can go all the way up into the, up into your doorstep, and you feel offended. [34:46] Then it's like, I don't like that shit, uh-uh, but I'm, I'm cool to, you know, you know, saying this and saying that, racist or not, doesn't fucking matter. [34:56] It's all freedom of speech, which it is, and I don't think no man should be able to tune, readjust your emotions based off of words. [35:07] You know, you should have control over that, but everybody preaches that shit until they get called or whatever, or hope that their wife or husband dies or some shit like that. [35:17] Then it's like, whoa, pal, wait a minute, Buster, we gotta fucking calm down here. [35:22] Yeah, I don't, I don't like that shit. [35:24] Freedom of speech should be freedom of speech, no matter how fucked up it is, as long as you're not actively inciting violence or calling for it. [35:32] He was just saying it, and it's a joke, you know? [35:34] He's a comedian, right? [35:37] Comedian's supposed to have the comedic, you know, code or whatever it is that they live by. [35:43] You know, it's all under the guise of comedy, until you say some shit like that, or Drewski does a skit about Erica Kirk, then it's like, whoa, buddy, you know? [35:56] Nah, I'm totally with you. [36:00] Again, I don't hear from this woman ever, you know? [36:06] And it's always surprising when she does something to come into the public, you know, out of, and she usually does it out of the clear blue sky. [36:16] A few weeks ago, she did a press conference out of nowhere, basically says, stop associating my name with Epstein. [36:27] Yeah, she's like, that was my husband, they ain't got shit to do with me. [36:30] Okay, that was him, under the bus, took the hold on, dropped it, just threw him all the way underneath the bus. [36:38] I was like, that's your boy? [36:40] Okay. [36:42] I'll be damned if my wife says something like that. [36:44] Like, yo, you liable to get drop kicked to the back of the dome, you know, hypothetically. [36:53] Okay, let's talk about this war. [37:00] Operation Epic Fury. [37:01] Mm-hmm. [37:02] Yeah, it ain't looking epic right now. [37:05] Well, you're right about that. [37:09] There is a ceasefire. [37:13] There's no ceasefire. [37:16] The strait is open. [37:18] The strait's closed. [37:20] The strait's open again. [37:22] Mm-hmm. [37:22] The strait's closed. [37:23] There are negotiations. [37:25] Iran's saying, screw you. [37:28] Our president is saying Iran is desperate to come to an agreement. [37:34] But this war, Operation Epic Fury, it should, because the strategy has completely changed. [37:45] If there is a strategy. [37:46] Exactly. [37:47] It should be called Operation Economic Fury. [37:51] Mm-hmm. [37:51] Because it's not about dropping bombs anymore. [37:54] Yep. [37:55] It's not about guns. [37:57] It's not about combat. [37:58] It, on one hand, Iran, they're playing economic terrorism with the strait, and the U.S. is like, [38:11] okay, we're going to put in a blockade, and we're going to stranglehold your economy, [38:17] and we're going to force you to the negotiating table. [38:21] Mm-hmm. [38:21] Am I reading this? [38:23] Has the strategy on this war completely changed? [38:26] Oh, yeah. [38:27] I think the strategy changed after a couple of weeks of the bombs being dropped, and they [38:34] realized this shit ain't working out the way we thought it would be. [38:38] I mean, we got to go all the way back to the beginning. [38:40] Like, the whole objective. [38:42] Were they in the first place dropping bombs? [38:44] And after we completely obliterated all this stuff, completely destroyed all the stuff that [38:50] we said, 98% of this is depleted and destroyed, this is completely obliterated. [38:57] It's like they lost the definition of that somewhere. [38:59] You know, the smartest people running the country, they lost the definition of what obliterated [39:05] really meant, because they obliterated all the stuff, and here we are still, you know, [39:10] took two weeks to further obliterate stuff, and they have no more capability. [39:14] They're, you know, on their hands and knees looking for negotiations, and they're like, [39:20] come on, come over to Islamabad, wherever the f*** it was at, and we're just not going [39:24] to show up. [39:25] But keep sending your people over here, and matter of fact, you want your deal? [39:30] Here's a piece of paper with some handwritten notes on it of what we want, and it's all [39:33] the shit we know we're not going to get. [39:35] They're at that 100% you attitude right now, and they're showing it. [39:40] I don't think they've been around for a long time. [39:44] They've been broke, poor, whatever, third-world country, shithole, whatever you want to call [39:49] it. [39:50] Economically, that's not how those countries even work like that over there. [39:53] They worry about making more bombs and IEDs and shit, and they don't go take it from the [39:58] people. [39:59] You think they don't have friends? [40:00] I mean, it wasn't China supplying intel or whatever to them, munitions as well. [40:05] They got friends. [40:06] They're not worried about the whole economy thing. [40:08] I mean, that's America's thing, this superpower nation. [40:12] Those superpowers are the ones who mainly worry about finance, but the guys at the top, they're [40:18] making money regardless. [40:19] Arm sales, exploitation, cryptocurrency trading, taking money from the straight, charging tolls [40:29] and stuff like that in crypto, untraceable money. [40:33] They know what the f*** they're doing. [40:34] This is not their first rodeo. [40:36] We might, it seems like that to us, it's our first time really going after them like that, but this [40:43] ain't their first rodeo. [40:44] They've been around for a long, long time. [40:46] A long time. [40:47] You think a country that's 200, we might have got the best military in the world, but like [40:51] you said, we stopped doing the bomb dropping. [40:53] You can't bomb them to death. [40:55] You can't, you can't kill them in that audiology just by dropping massive amounts of bombs on [41:00] them. [41:00] So now we're trying to economically put a strangle on that ass and I just don't think [41:05] it's going to work. [41:06] The strategy's changed too many times. [41:08] We didn't even give a f*** about the straight at one point. [41:11] Trump said it. [41:11] He's like, I don't care about it. [41:14] And here we are. [41:15] Like, this is the big deal now. [41:16] This is the war now, focused on this little strip of water. [41:21] It's a weird, I don't think there is no strategy. [41:23] We're just going as we go along. [41:25] We don't want to look like the country that ran with their tail tucked between its legs. [41:29] So we're trying to stay with it and just change up the game plan as we go along. [41:34] Next step is going to be boots on the ground at this rate. [41:36] And I think that's what Iran is waiting for. [41:40] We've planned on this desert storm, desert shield era of fighting wars. [41:45] Like, we're going to go in there, bomb them for like 48 hours, a couple of weeks, and this [41:50] thing is going to be done. [41:52] And here we are still, you know, today, negotiations, bombs are still dropping somewhere. [41:58] Lebanon, wherever, Israel's always caught off guard. [42:03] And why the f*** is Trump saying this about a peace? [42:05] We don't want peace. [42:06] We don't want none of that. [42:08] We want to completely set them back. [42:10] So this war is going to be going on for a while. [42:13] I think the next steps would be either back out with your tail tucked or put boots on the [42:19] ground, which I'm hoping not. [42:20] But what else can you do at this point? [42:23] They obviously don't care about being bombed to death. [42:25] You think they care about the economy, the average? [42:28] They don't care about that shit. [42:30] The IRGC and whoever else is in charge, they're putting out Lego videos like no other, dropping [42:38] them things like motherf***ing Drake and Kendrick Lamar on the beef. [42:42] They dropping them shits quick. [42:46] They don't care about that. [42:49] They want troops on the ground, is what I think. [42:51] So you're thinking Iran themselves want troops on the ground? [42:56] Hell yeah. [42:56] I was fighting in Iraq. [42:59] In the early years of Iraq, we were killing more Iranian foreign fighters than we were [43:04] Iraqis. [43:07] Most of the killings, a lot of the killing, those Iraqi foreign fighters, those were the [43:11] ones we were fighting coming across the border. [43:15] Dudes were, they were legit. [43:17] They didn't give a f***. [43:19] They'd blow themselves. [43:20] They were constantly blowing themselves up. [43:22] IED vest, suicide vest. [43:25] And they had some fresh Glocks. [43:28] I remember that. [43:28] They had some fresh Glock 23s. [43:30] They were fresh. [43:33] But yeah, nice AKs. [43:35] If this is ultimately what they want, is for us to go in there, send our troops in, what [43:44] benefit does that give them? [43:46] Like, what is the strategy there from their side, as you see it? [43:49] To kill as many of them as they can. [43:52] To kill as many U.S. troops as they possibly can. [43:55] Just to have that little notch on their belt to say, look what we did. [43:59] It would increase their—it would give them more cool-guy points on the block in the [44:07] Middle East. [44:08] Like, look, we defeated the U.S., just like Afghanistan. [44:11] I'm not saying that Afghanistan did, but, I mean, we really didn't accomplish it there. [44:17] And the leaving was even worse. [44:19] So I don't know. [44:20] I think that it would just be like a bragging—yeah, to have bragging rights, to say, look [44:26] what we did to the U.S. [44:28] We spanked that ass, too. [44:29] They didn't come in here and just do what they thought they were going to do. [44:31] And we haven't. [44:33] We haven't. [44:34] They're playing games at this point. [44:36] Like, Trump is trying to be serious and do these negotiations and send in J.D. [44:41] Vance and that one— [44:44] Jared Kushner. [44:46] Yeah, that ventriloquist dummy. [44:48] They sent his looking ass over there to try to negotiate, and it don't play out. [44:54] They come back with their tails tucked. [44:56] Like, man, that was a joke. [44:57] Then they try to go back again. [44:59] And it's like—Iran's like, we're not even going to show up, but here's a piece of paper. [45:04] Like, what we want is the same shit that we know you—we've already proposed, and it's [45:08] all the same stuff. [45:09] Like, we know you don't want that. [45:11] Keep it going. [45:12] Keep it going. [45:13] They've been saying keep it going. [45:16] It's like fighting Rocky. [45:18] Rocky got his face all busted up, but he's like, come on, give me some more. [45:21] That's all you got? [45:23] That's all you got? [45:25] It's turning into that. [45:29] Trump has never, to my knowledge, enlisted, served. [45:37] No, he was in—he was in the—what was it, like West Point? [45:42] Yeah, he was in West Point. [45:43] Yeah. [45:43] But that's not considering—is that considered— [45:46] No. [45:47] That's military school. [45:48] Yeah, yeah. [45:49] But then those—his bone spurs start acting up, you know? [45:52] And it was like, ah, I can't—I can't fucking do that shit. [45:55] A lot of people forget about that. [45:56] I think we need to go back to the days of, you know, this is my opinion. [46:02] If you want to be the president of the United States, granted, you've got to, you know, be— [46:08] I don't think you really have to be fucking smart at this point. [46:11] I really don't. [46:13] But I think you should be—have served in the military, at least at the enlisted, you know, positions. [46:21] Maybe a general. [46:22] I don't know. [46:22] I think you should be—or should have served, especially in the time of war, [46:26] because you know exactly what it's going to take if you have to go there. [46:32] But I think guys like us are the ones who are the most reluctant to even go to war in the first place. [46:38] You got bankers and shit like that and lawyers who are deciding whether or not we should go to war. [46:46] It's not the war fighters. [46:47] They just fucking go out there and sling bullets. [46:49] I think we should go back to those days because, I mean, this is my opinion. [46:57] People might get pissed off about it, but you can't neglect the fact that, hey, in the time of war, motherfucker had bone spurs. [47:05] I've had bone spurs, like stress fractures. [47:09] I've had fractured tibia amphibias. [47:12] And I was still jumping out of fucking planes, still doing 12, 15-mile road marches, like documented shit. [47:18] I've had bone—I've had a lot of injuries, a lot of injuries. [47:23] But shit didn't stop me from going to go put bullets in people's faces, though. [47:28] Was I scared? [47:29] Yeah, hell yeah. [47:31] And I think his son, Barron Trump, like just—he's like an inch or two over the height limit for the military. [47:40] He just missed it. [47:42] But then you guys who are, you know, NBA—who's it? [47:46] Robinson played for the Spurs. [47:48] What the f*** was his name? [47:49] Robinson. [47:50] Robinson. [47:51] Nah, Robinson. [47:53] I got—yeah, he used to play for the Spurs back in the day. [47:55] He was in the Navy. [47:57] Yeah, the Admiral. [47:58] Yeah, he was—he was taller than Barron Trump. [48:01] That motherf***er was in the Navy or some shit. [48:03] Still serve. [48:06] I just think it's a lot of—it's a lot of tough-talking people, but really, like, at heart, not really about that life, running this country. [48:14] I think it's all of them, damn near all of them. [48:16] You got maybe a few. [48:18] Joe Kent was one of them, but then he was like, this shit, I'm out. [48:23] This war ain't right. [48:25] You got a couple of warfighters up in there, some Navy SEALs and stuff, but I'm like, I've never been a fan of Navy SEALs like that. [48:33] I got a few of them I'm cool with, but the majority of them, I'm good. [48:37] And you were mentioning the Admiral, David Robinson from San Antonio Spurs. [48:47] Yep, yep. [48:49] You know, Nick, and where I was going, based on your earlier commentary, and I just want to get your thoughts on this. [48:58] Trump has every advisor from all walks of life, and definitely military advisors, whether it's the Joint Chiefs, Secretary of War, whatever it might be. [49:17] He has them at his disposal. [49:19] Mm-hmm. [49:19] They are meeting in that Oval Office daily. [49:23] Mm-hmm. [49:25] You are giving us a perspective week over week about this particular enemy. [49:31] Mm-hmm. [49:31] So I got to believe if you know this, they know this. [49:38] Mm-hmm. [49:39] So my question is, did they give him, excuse me? [49:44] They read the Bible differently. [49:46] I know Pete Hexa. [49:47] I've done a book with him, a show with him. [49:50] I know Pete Hexa, but I think that some people, a lot of the people who are about this war and wholeheartedly support this war, I think they just read the Bible differently and see the Bible differently. [50:08] Nothing wrong with it. [50:10] I think that's what it is, though. [50:11] And if you are a hardcore Christian and you read the Bible the way a lot of people read it, they look at this other country like, hey, we got to always be about it, Israel. [50:24] We got to, you know, stand behind it or else we're all going to be damned to hell or whatever. [50:30] Uh-uh. [50:31] I think they just forget, you know, what Israel is really being talked about in the Bible. [50:37] That's just my opinion. [50:39] Maybe I'm reading it wrong. [50:40] I don't know. [50:41] I mean, that's fair. [50:44] But I want to get your thoughts on no matter how you read the Bible, that enemy, to your point, they've been around for thousands of years. [51:01] They've been fighting wars for thousands of years. [51:03] They are deeply rooted in their convictions and their ideologies. [51:07] You had to know that bombing them, going in there, guns blazing, sending tens of thousands of bombs that way, that wasn't the answer. [51:26] I mean, it's proven. [51:27] It's not the answer. [51:29] It didn't work. [51:30] So my question is, did they get it wrong in terms of the information and the advice that they gave the president, or did the president just not listen to his cabinet? [51:48] He didn't listen to the people who were advising him and said, this is the way I want to go in, and I'm going to take them off the face of this earth. [51:55] I think that he was listening to his advisors. [51:58] I think that, like, when it comes to the U.S., we know how to start wars. [52:02] It's not hard to do it. [52:04] We just don't know how to really finish it. [52:06] We don't have, like, an endgame. [52:07] You know, Afghanistan turned into, like, after 9-11, bombed the shit out of him. [52:14] We had Osama bin Laden in Tora Bora, bombed the shit out of him. [52:19] And he's on a fucking dialysis machine, allegedly. [52:22] And we couldn't fucking get a dude running through the mountains on a kidney dialysis machine, and we're dropping thousands and thousands and thousands of bombs on this dude, let him escape to Pakistan. [52:34] Obviously, that shit don't work that great. [52:36] You know, we've been to, like, from Afghanistan. [52:38] And then the goalposts just keeps getting moved further and further. [52:43] Like, we're going to get revenge. [52:44] We're going to kill Osama bin Laden. [52:46] Then now we've got to win the hearts and minds. [52:49] Now we're going to nation build. [52:50] Now we're going to do it. [52:52] Yeah, we don't really have a plan, no endgame. [52:54] It's just we're going to go fuck some shit up. [52:56] And what happens after that happens after that. [52:59] You know, kill Saddam Hussein. [53:01] We still stay years, decades. [53:03] So we don't really have a game plan. [53:05] We just know how to start shit. [53:06] Like I said, bombing these people don't work. [53:10] We bomb the shit out of Tora Bora and let a dude on a kidney dialysis machine walk the [53:16] fuck out with some men's hair dye, re-dye his hair and flee into Pakistan. [53:21] I don't think we're really good at war in that sense. [53:27] We haven't won a war, in my opinion, since, like, World War II. [53:29] And I think we forget about one of the largest contributors to that war, who had Russia. [53:38] They were losing them by the buckets before we got in. [53:44] Yeah, America really hadn't won a war. [53:46] And it's been a long time. [53:48] A just war, for that matter. [53:52] We just know how to start that shit. [53:55] Well, as we discussed earlier, it's completely changed, our strategy. [54:00] You know, this is clearly about economics and who can hold out the longest. [54:10] Iran is counting on the global population, not just the U.S. citizens, but the global population, [54:22] to start pressuring the U.S. in this thing, because the cost of living, inflation, everything [54:33] has gone through the roof. [54:34] If gas go up, like, another dollar or two, I think if it go up, like, two more dollars, [54:40] I got some, I still got my uniform, old uniform, and shit, I might got to go start killing some [54:45] motherfuckers at this rate. [54:47] I mean, God, let me finish this shit real quick. [54:52] I mean, come on. [54:55] You know, gas is through the roof, my brother. [55:00] Like, we're trying to drown them out economically, but we're also, like, doing it to ourselves [55:06] at the same time. [55:08] Like, the gas, the cost of, you know, not just gas, the cost of, you know, groceries, [55:14] food is going up, electricity bills have gone up, everything's just fucking up right [55:20] now. [55:21] So I'm like, I mean, who, who's going to drain, pause, who's going to drain the first, you [55:25] know? [55:26] We find, we try to drain them, they're draining us too. [55:30] I mean, are we draining ourselves? [55:32] But I think it's a matter of- [55:34] I mean, they're definitely draining us, but more important, it's affecting- [55:38] The globe. [55:38] It's affecting the world. [55:39] Yeah. [55:40] It's affecting everybody. [55:42] Yeah. [55:42] And that is their strategy. [55:44] Every country is looking at the U.S., y'all are bullies, you started a war for no reason, [55:53] there is no reason for you guys to be over there to begin with, and now our economy is [56:00] effed up. [56:00] Y'all got to end this. [56:04] That's what Iran's counting on. [56:06] Yeah. [56:07] Yeah. [56:08] U.S. is counting on the people of Iran to rise up because their lives are twisted, [56:16] their economy is destroyed. [56:18] It never worked. [56:19] But here's the thing. [56:19] It's never working. [56:20] Their economy has been destroyed. [56:22] Exactly. [56:23] Exactly. [56:24] Exactly. [56:25] Do you think them, yeah, they weren't living like Beverly Hills 90210 over there, and damn [56:29] sure wasn't like that, for damn sure. [56:32] I mean, we're talking about the same, we call these other countries shitholes for a reason. [56:37] I don't. [56:39] Certain politicians do. [56:41] A lot of Americans do. [56:42] They call them shithole countries. [56:44] I mean, how much more shit can you be before it's like, all right, I'm done? [56:49] You know, if you're already allegedly like a shithole country, what's the next step? [56:54] Fucking constipated country, diarrhea country, some shit? [56:58] I don't know. [56:58] It's already shit, though. [56:59] Shit is shit. [57:01] You going to bomb me some more and get more shit out of me? [57:04] I mean, I'm already shitting, you know? [57:06] Well, the Treasury Secretary of the U.S., Scott Bessett, he said, you know, the U.S. has already [57:20] seized something to the effect of $500 million in Iranian crypto assets. [57:28] They've frozen all types of bank accounts over there. [57:31] I read that Iran is losing, with this blockade in place, Iran is losing something like $400 [57:42] to $500 billion a day, a day, you know, somewhere close to $20, $30 billion a month. [57:54] We are counting on it's only a matter of time. [58:00] Y'all cannot afford to keep losing this much money. [58:05] According to who, though? [58:06] And according to whose way of life? [58:09] According to who? [58:10] You know, I think that's a hell of a way to change up a war strategy, in my opinion, on [58:18] a whim. [58:19] This is also the same administration that said this war was going to be over in a couple [58:24] weeks. [58:25] And now it's like, well, we'll give you a prediction by 2030 what their economy is going [58:30] to be like if it does continue to go this way. [58:33] This shit was supposed to be over weeks ago, months ago, it feels like. [58:38] When ain't it supposed to be that long? [58:39] You know, so am I supposed to believe that this new strategy is going to work, go after [58:45] their finances? [58:46] And we're talking about the crypto that they found. [58:49] I mean, I'm sure a lot of these dudes aren't signing up with the Gmail account. [58:53] I'm sure they got some, you know, other money being funneled through other countries, other [58:58] people holding that money. [59:00] It ain't just being, I think it's being shifted around and laundered, washed and cleaned and [59:05] whatever it may be. [59:07] I don't think they got it all. [59:09] That's just what they probably, that's just what they found, allegedly, allegedly. [59:14] I think there's a lot of propaganda being pushed on both sides. [59:18] And the country that told me this war was supposed to be over weeks ago, I got to believe them [59:24] now. [59:25] The same country that every weekend before the stock market opens up says, oh, we got a [59:29] deal. [59:30] This is looking good. [59:32] It always falls through. [59:34] It's like clockwork. [59:35] Every week, there's some, oh, this shit might happen. [59:38] Possibly could be. [59:39] Looks and it looks like it might go down. [59:42] It's looking like Iran is folding. [59:44] No, that's just stock market. [59:46] Like it's always before stock market open. [59:49] And we've been in play like this for the past couple months now. [59:52] Now I got to believe them that this strategy, this new one. [59:55] Oh yeah, this shit's going to work. [59:57] That wasn't even the plan to begin with. [59:59] We had to fucking readjust, re-aim, re-engage so many fucking times with this war, started [1:00:06] thinking we can't shoot straight. [1:00:08] You know, there's another piece to this puzzle, if you want to believe that. [1:00:17] I mean, it could work, Nick. [1:00:18] Let me get your thoughts on it. [1:00:21] If Iran cannot get those OU tankers out of the strait into the world, eventually the thought [1:00:33] is they're going to have no place to store it. [1:00:36] Their storage facilities are going to be full. [1:00:41] And once they stop pumping that OU, because you can't stop pumping it. [1:00:47] Once you stop pumping that OU, you almost have to go back, you know, to the starting block. [1:00:54] You got to start drilling all over again, which is going to set them back 10, 15 years. [1:00:59] If they stop pumping OU out of, uh, the, the, the, the places that are currently supplying [1:01:07] all of the, you know, the OU that they're, they're allowing through those straits day [1:01:12] over day. [1:01:13] So the, the thought from, um, the treasury secretary is one way or the other, they got [1:01:23] to come to the table because yes, economically we're hurting them, but eventually they're [1:01:30] going to have to stop drilling anyway. [1:01:32] They're going to have to stop pumping because where are they storing this? [1:01:34] Do you think that that's a viable option? [1:01:38] I know there's a black market going on for how they get money with this oil. [1:01:44] Um, it might be an option, but how long is this going to take? [1:01:50] I mean, like I said, this wasn't even supposed to be this long. [1:01:52] And the longer that it does go on, the more it's still going to hurt the average American [1:01:56] consumer buyer. [1:01:57] It's still going to hurt us just the same. [1:02:01] I think we'll have more of an outrage than them people who's already used to being in the [1:02:05] country they're in. [1:02:06] When things start getting really uncomfortable here, I'm telling you $10, $10, $10 a gallon [1:02:13] of gas is going to make, cause a lot of people to, to start being like, uh, it's going to [1:02:18] be before that. [1:02:19] I'm talking about a $10 average. [1:02:21] This war be over before we know it. [1:02:25] Promise you that. [1:02:27] But I just don't see Iran folding because of that. [1:02:30] I just don't, I honestly, I don't see them folding because, oh shit, we're losing this [1:02:35] much money a day or a month or whatever. [1:02:37] They, they, the people, they don't think like that. [1:02:41] Your average, they don't even think like that. [1:02:43] And I don't think that country's even being run by, ran by one specific individual. [1:02:47] It's the militia, if you will, that's running that country. [1:02:54] And they get money from other means, by other means. [1:02:57] Well, as of right now today, um, the national average in the U.S. for gas is $4.39. [1:03:09] See, maybe on average. [1:03:10] $4.39. [1:03:11] I was driving over this past week down South and I was paying what? [1:03:17] It was like three or $5.39, $5.99 at one point. [1:03:23] I'm sorry, $4.99. [1:03:24] Yeah. [1:03:25] It was $4.39 and $4.99. [1:03:27] I'm going to say- [1:03:27] Yeah, it's the national average. [1:03:29] National. [1:03:29] Okay, gotcha. [1:03:30] So some places are lower, some places are higher. [1:03:33] So the national average today is $4.39. [1:03:35] Yesterday, it was $4.23. [1:03:37] A month ago, a month ago, before, actually, right before the war started, it was $2.98. [1:03:45] I was going to say, yeah, what was it before when it started? [1:03:47] Okay, yeah, $2.98. [1:03:48] At this rate, I'm telling you, that's a, and how long did that take? [1:03:54] We've been in this war now for what? [1:03:55] Uh, just turned 60 days. [1:03:58] Okay, so, damn, you're going to sustain this pace for a year? [1:04:08] We're talking about two months and it's already, what, damn near doubled. [1:04:12] It's already doubled. [1:04:13] Another six months, let it jump up two more dollars or whatever, or another dollar and, [1:04:19] oh, yeah, I'm sorry, you said from two to four? [1:04:22] $2.98. [1:04:23] So let's say three. [1:04:24] Three dollars, okay. [1:04:24] And now it's $4.39. [1:04:26] So it's up literally $1.39 since the war started. [1:04:32] Let it jump up another two dollars in two months or three months. [1:04:37] Like I said, I might got to suit the back up. [1:04:42] I think a lot of Americans are going to, like, we got, I don't know where I'm going to go, [1:04:45] but we got to stop some shit, bring this money, yeah, bring this shit back down. [1:04:51] I'm having me out here looking like Aries Spears, bro, you know? [1:04:54] Uh, China. [1:05:06] China is the primary buyer of Iranian oil. [1:05:11] Mm-hmm. [1:05:11] It accounts for roughly 90% of the total exports. [1:05:18] Mm-hmm. [1:05:19] Do you see China, or Russia for that matter, because now China has a vested interest in [1:05:30] ending this thing. [1:05:31] Mm-hmm. [1:05:32] You know, we think stuff is messed up over here. [1:05:34] We think our stock market is, is, uh, like, do you think they'll jump into the negotiations [1:05:44] and, and try to at least bail Iran out? [1:05:49] I think China's going to keep trying to, in the meantime, the immediate time, is keep supplying [1:05:56] them what they need to supply them, because they're fighting the U.S. right now. [1:06:00] China's supposed to be our enemy. [1:06:01] Their smartest move is to keep supplying them with intelligence, whatever it is, maybe finances, [1:06:07] whatever they have. [1:06:08] This is also a superpower we're talking about. [1:06:11] China's not a broke-ass country. [1:06:12] I mean, I know the government has quite a bit, but, and if not, then it's like, well, [1:06:18] what do we believe? [1:06:18] How, how much of a threat is China, really? [1:06:21] But I think they're going to keep continuing to support Iran by whatever means necessary [1:06:26] at this point. [1:06:27] I mean, yeah, I think that'd be in their interest. [1:06:33] I'm not going to say it might, it'd be in their best interest, but I, I see that right [1:06:36] now in their deck of cards that they have laid out, is to keep, we did the same shit with [1:06:42] Afghanistan when they were fighting the Soviets back in the 70s. [1:06:47] We didn't have to go necessarily put boots on the ground, but we're going to supply you [1:06:50] some weapons and X, Y, and Z, and then before you know it, the terrorist Osama bin Laden [1:06:55] and Al Qaeda is born. [1:06:58] But yeah, I think China's going to keep supplying them with what they can't supply them with [1:07:03] in the meantime. [1:07:07] Yeah. [1:07:07] But is that short term? [1:07:08] Because. [1:07:09] Yeah, I think it's short term. [1:07:10] If they, if they are, if they're 90% relying on these exports of, of the oil, long term, [1:07:23] can China even afford for this war to continue? [1:07:26] No, I don't see, no. [1:07:28] No, but China, I think has some friends. [1:07:33] I think they have friends or they might pull like a Cuba, some type of Cuba bullshit, Cuban [1:07:37] missile, Cuban, Cuban missile crisis. [1:07:39] And they're like, Hey, Iran didn't have a nuke before, but shit, they got one now. [1:07:44] We finna end this. [1:07:45] I don't think it'd come to that, but I think for the short term, however long that may be, [1:07:51] they'll ride it out and just, yeah. [1:07:54] Take the hit for right now. [1:07:55] We're, we're already cost money. [1:07:57] Look how much money we spent in the global war on terrorism. [1:08:00] I mean, trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars. [1:08:04] We're, I mean, we're already broke. [1:08:06] We're talking about other countries being broke with almost $40 trillion in debt. [1:08:10] How much more broke can you be? [1:08:13] You know, we, we talking about them countries being rich or, or, or they're losing this money. [1:08:18] We are in fucking $40 trillion in debt. [1:08:21] We ain't rich either. [1:08:24] We just put on a lot of good filters and makeup. [1:08:26] One thing that, because there's a lot of residual damage that I see happening. [1:08:41] So while everybody's focused on the trade, everybody's focused on the economy, you know, [1:08:47] there are some other things that are going to have to be addressed as soon as this conflict, [1:08:53] this war, whatever you want to call it, is over. [1:08:55] Um, you know, president Trump, he asked for NATO's help. [1:09:02] Oh yeah. [1:09:03] Yeah. [1:09:03] Great Britain. [1:09:04] And he didn't ask for their help militarily. [1:09:07] Mm-hmm. [1:09:07] Yeah. [1:09:07] We got that. [1:09:08] Like, you know, we're the U S we wield the biggest stick. [1:09:12] We got that. [1:09:13] But we, we, we want you guys who are our allies to come in and help us get this straight open. [1:09:21] Mm-hmm. [1:09:22] Europe, Great Britain, doo doo doo, like, no, we're not, like, we're not. [1:09:33] What do you think the future of NATO is after this war has concluded? [1:09:38] Shattered, completely shattered. [1:09:40] I'll be surprised if NATO, if we stay in NATO before Trump is out of office, I'll be surprised [1:09:48] if we continue to stay in NATO. [1:09:51] I mean, he's already talking about, you know, he's already talked enough shit to make me believe [1:09:56] that I don't think he, he even wants to be there in the first place. [1:10:01] You already know how I feel about NATO. [1:10:02] I don't really care for it. [1:10:04] I mean, it's a lot of money going to other countries that can be saved here in the United [1:10:09] States, bring down that debt. [1:10:11] But I don't, I don't see us being, I mean, he's already like tarnished the relationship [1:10:16] in NATO that we have with NATO since this war started. [1:10:19] And it ain't just since this war started. [1:10:20] It's been before that. [1:10:21] He's been talking about, bad about NATO, bad mouth of NATO. [1:10:25] You know, I'll be surprised if we stay in NATO before his time is up in office. [1:10:31] I'll be surprised. [1:10:34] Mm. [1:10:35] You know, I know that that's clearly going to be something that's addressed in the very [1:10:41] near future. [1:10:42] Oh, yeah. [1:10:42] Oh, yeah. [1:10:43] It wouldn't shock me if he pulls out of NATO. [1:10:47] He's already made it clear, like, we contribute the most to NATO. [1:10:51] Mm-hmm. [1:10:52] Um, most of you guys don't, you know, you don't, you don't pay your dues. [1:10:56] Mm-hmm. [1:10:57] You're not bringing much to the table. [1:10:58] And ultimately, you need us. [1:11:01] Yeah. [1:11:01] Um, wouldn't surprise me. [1:11:05] But interestingly enough, um, I, the more I think about this thing, Nick, maybe we can't [1:11:15] get a deal done because who the hell are we even dealing? [1:11:18] I mean, who's running that country right now? [1:11:20] Like, it's a, exactly. [1:11:21] It's like, um, at some points, I think it's a, a little kid on, on Roblox and who's like [1:11:29] cosplaying an adult. [1:11:31] And then I think sometimes we're just talking to like some random ass dude in the IRGC or [1:11:36] whatever. [1:11:36] And, and then admittedly from Trump, we're talking through a little kid carrying fucking paper [1:11:44] notes to go give it to somebody. [1:11:46] Like that's, you know, from no horse's mouth. [1:11:48] I'm not making that part up. [1:11:50] I don't think we know who we're talking to. [1:11:52] And if we do know who we're talking to, how much power does he really hold within that [1:11:56] country or organization? [1:11:59] I think right now, or we're talking to the same people and we've been sold a lie that [1:12:04] we destroyed and killed, you know, their leadership and X, Y, and Z. [1:12:09] And it really wasn't like that. [1:12:10] And even if we did, I've been, been on plenty of missions. [1:12:15] You kill the number one dude here. [1:12:17] You kill the number one dude here. [1:12:19] Nothing changes. [1:12:20] Somebody, if not worse, takes his spot. [1:12:24] But they damn sure got the same ideology, but it doesn't change anything. [1:12:30] Well, to your point, uh, when the first wave of strikes went over, uh, the Supreme Leader, [1:12:38] Ali Khamenei, Khamenei, excuse me, he was killed. [1:12:44] His son, Majaba, uh, he was named the Supreme Leader. [1:12:49] Uh-huh. [1:12:49] From what we understand, he's seriously injured, but no one's seen this guy. [1:12:57] No one's, no one's even heard his father. [1:12:58] I don't even know if the man's alive. [1:13:00] Right. [1:13:00] But he was named the successor to his father who was killed. [1:13:05] So, clearly, even if he didn't believe in his dad's ideals, the minute that they took his father out, he took that baton and said, screw you. [1:13:18] I'm running with whatever my dad believed, and I'm going to be that much worse. [1:13:23] Exactly. [1:13:24] Exactly. [1:13:24] So, that's number one, if he's still alive. [1:13:26] Yep. [1:13:27] But then there's the IRGC that you mentioned. [1:13:29] Mm-hmm. [1:13:29] I don't know if they're running the country. [1:13:31] I don't know if they're heading negotiations. [1:13:32] Like, I don't even know how we can get this, uh, come to any type of resolution if there's nobody, number one, who is a clear leader of the country. [1:13:47] Right. [1:13:47] Um, number two, I thought that when we first went in there, it was, number one, to make sure they did not, uh, have the means to create nuclear arms. [1:14:01] But, number two, it was regime change. [1:14:03] Yep, yep. [1:14:04] We are so far away from either of those original missions. [1:14:09] I, who, who's running the regime? [1:14:13] Oh, and also, was it, uh, to free the people of Iran, it was supposed to be, like, some big uprising. [1:14:19] Well, well, that was through regime change. [1:14:21] Regime change, yeah, yeah. [1:14:22] And, and as it stands, none of this has happened. [1:14:25] No. [1:14:27] And we are expected to believe, and that's my thing, like, those first two things didn't happen, or what they wished for, obviously, because Iran still is like, nah, we're still going to, [1:14:38] you know, do our nuclear shit, too. [1:14:40] Whether they're making bombs or they're seeking nuclear power, we don't know. [1:14:43] But I'm also like, those first two things didn't work out the way it was planned. [1:14:50] And now we got to believe this, like, third, you know, this third objective. [1:14:56] Like, the first two clearly suck. [1:14:58] Your first, your first game plan is supposed to be the best game plan. [1:15:02] Then after you get punched in the face, you're like, ah, shit, let me readjust. [1:15:06] And then you come back with, like, okay, I'm going to keep the same game plan, but I'm going to still, I'm going to adjust and move around with my new adjusted game plan. [1:15:14] And you're still getting your ass whipped. [1:15:17] The third one is kind of like, man, at some point I got to throw in the towel, I'm going to get knocked the fuck out, you know? [1:15:22] I don't think it's comparable to that. [1:15:25] I don't think the U.S. is, like, suffering a bloody nose at this point. [1:15:28] I just think we're facing a resilient, it's like the Rocky fight. [1:15:32] Like, you can beat Rocky to f*** up all 15 rounds back then, all 15, he's going to keep getting off that stool. [1:15:39] You couldn't break Rocky, couldn't break it, couldn't break him. [1:15:42] And I think that's a lot what we fight with today. [1:15:46] Like, our enemy is comparable to that Rocky mentality. [1:15:50] You can stomp Rocky out, he's going to get back up. [1:15:53] Well, I think that this is, and it's something that you've been saying from the gate. [1:16:01] Yes, there's one part of this that no matter how many times you hit this enemy, they're going to come back. [1:16:11] They're resilient as all hell. [1:16:13] But I also just think this is an enemy we just don't understand. [1:16:19] Oh, I think we understand it. [1:16:20] Anybody can be beaten. [1:16:21] We don't understand. [1:16:21] Go ahead. [1:16:22] We fought, like Afghanistan, Iraq, we had decades of experience with these people. [1:16:28] Different country, but same people stand for the same thing. [1:16:34] That's the same culture. [1:16:36] We know exactly who we're fighting. [1:16:39] We just didn't take enough time to sit back and learn from our mistakes. [1:16:43] We rushed right back into a new war, and it didn't take long. [1:16:47] It took a couple years, few years, before it was like, all right, on to the next one. [1:16:50] Even though we just spent 20 fucking years fighting these people, let's try it again. [1:16:57] Let's go over here and do the same thing that we tried to do those past 20 years. [1:17:01] Let's try it again and see if it works, just in a different region, a different country. [1:17:07] Yeah, but that brings me back to what I asked you earlier. [1:17:10] Is this Trump's advisers giving him bad advice, or is it just him like, yo, I don't care what y'all say. [1:17:18] Hey, I know how to beat the—I wrote the art of the deal, and I am the commander-in-chief, and I have the biggest armed forces on planet Earth. [1:17:29] I think it might be a mix of both, but now that you said it again, and I've thought about it, that's believing that they don't have somebody above them. [1:17:40] Lobby groups, lobbyists, big banks. [1:17:44] Like, we never get a chance to hear their opinion on what they want, and those are the ones who are putting money into the pocket. [1:17:51] We should talk to them and see what they want. [1:17:53] Maybe it's all about what they want. [1:17:55] And what they want, it doesn't matter what the advisors think. [1:17:58] We don't get a chance to sit in those rooms, the briefing rooms, the Oval Office, behind closed doors when they're, you know, giving him his weekly or morning report or his report, [1:18:09] hey, before we go in here and bomb this, I don't think this is a good idea, Mr. President. [1:18:12] I don't—we don't get a chance to see that. [1:18:15] I think they—it could also be like they get a fucking email or paperwork from some big lobby group and like, hey, this is the script. [1:18:23] This is what the f*** we're going to do. [1:18:25] Then they came out there and they played a role. [1:18:27] They play their character. [1:18:28] They're all actors, but who are they acting for? [1:18:33] Who's their producer? [1:18:36] Yeah, I mean, you know, at the end of the day, no matter how you slice it, we are where we are. [1:18:41] Yeah. [1:18:43] Iran's tone is becoming increasingly more defiant. [1:18:48] Right, right. [1:18:49] Yeah, it really is. [1:18:50] It's like their supreme leader, Majaba Harmony, he puts out a statement essentially saying there's no place for foreign forces except in the depths of the Persian Gulf. [1:19:04] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [1:19:04] So, you know, when you hear rhetoric like that, what do you think he's saying in terms of any road to peace, any road to resolution in the upcoming weeks, months, as pertains to the straits or just negotiations overall? [1:19:22] Look, it ain't happening. [1:19:24] It's like, I don't want peace right now. [1:19:27] Not even right now. [1:19:28] I want war. [1:19:30] That's all he's saying. [1:19:31] Like, all the—and you know what else he's saying? [1:19:34] He's like, all that s*** that your president and the administration, your government told you was happening before and how close you were to some deals was all BS. [1:19:43] None of that was real. [1:19:44] None of it was real. [1:19:46] They've been keeping the same posture. [1:19:48] It's only gotten more defiant, like you said. [1:19:52] So I think we've been lied to quite a bit when it comes to this war, like we always have been. [1:19:59] They don't stop—our overseers don't stop lying to us in the time of war, and they can, you know, have prior to that. [1:20:06] They're going to keep lying. [1:20:07] If more—if anything, they're going to lie to you more in the time of war. [1:20:12] If anything, that's what they're going to do the most. [1:20:14] Yeah, I mean, uh, I have no doubt that this administration is lying to us, um, on a daily basis. [1:20:26] Let's just—no matter what side of the fence you sit on, let's just be honest. [1:20:31] Trump is the most documented liar in the history of America. [1:20:37] He might be the most documented liar in the history of the world. [1:20:40] Good gosh. [1:20:40] I don't think that there's anybody on record that has been caught in more lies than Donald J. Trump. [1:20:48] So— [1:20:49] Somebody told me that was a New York—we talked about this a couple days ago. [1:20:53] Somebody told me that that's just, like, a New York thing. [1:20:56] Like, he'd just be doing that shit because he's from fucking New York. [1:20:59] I don't know. [1:21:00] Yo, I'm from New York. [1:21:02] Hell. [1:21:03] Okay. [1:21:08] Yo, you said somebody told me that's just a New York thing? [1:21:11] Yeah, they said that's just a New York thing. [1:21:13] Hey, did it be a big— [1:21:14] Get out of here! [1:21:14] I don't know. [1:21:15] I don't know. [1:21:17] They said that's just that New York in them. [1:21:20] They always do that. [1:21:21] I was like, for real? [1:21:26] Yo, you a wild boy, Nick. [1:21:28] Yo. [1:21:30] I don't know who your mans is, but you need to get some new friends, man. [1:21:36] I'ma cut them off. [1:21:38] I'ma cut them off, Sean. [1:21:39] Oh, my God. [1:21:44] Nah, but, yo, to keep it real, man, like, they're totally—I mean, I don't know if this guy, [1:21:50] how many, is still alive, but the truth is he is his father's son. [1:21:55] Yeah. [1:21:55] And right now the inflation in Iran is at 75—at 70 percent. [1:22:02] The Real has hit a—it's hit a record low, which begs the question, like, is— [1:22:10] his threshold for pain, is it greater than his father's, or does he just not give an [1:22:17] F about his people? [1:22:18] Because it's easy to hold out, and it's easy to be like, screw you, U.S., bring it. [1:22:28] We can—we can—our threshold for pain is greater than anything you can do to us. [1:22:33] Mm-hmm. [1:22:35] If you don't care about your people. [1:22:37] Well, hey— [1:22:38] Because they're the ones who are going to feel the brunt of it. [1:22:40] Yeah. [1:22:41] But wasn't he, like, killing his people prior to this whole stuff? [1:22:44] Like, the—the—the protest? [1:22:47] About hundreds, thousands or whatever, hanging them, public executions? [1:22:51] Like, he's—their government has allegedly already proven they don't care about the people. [1:22:59] They'll kill you. [1:23:00] It's like that whole Salaam Hussein thing. [1:23:03] It's like North Korea. [1:23:04] Like, you think Kim Jong-un cares about the average person over there? [1:23:10] Probably not. [1:23:11] But that goes for any government. [1:23:13] That's like saying, do you think that our government really cares about us? [1:23:20] No. [1:23:21] They don't. [1:23:22] So I gotta—no, of course they don't. [1:23:26] I don't think—no government cares about their own people. [1:23:29] Like, no. [1:23:30] All in it for their own gain. [1:23:34] So, of course, Iran don't. [1:23:35] If we don't—I know damn sure Iran doesn't care about their people. [1:23:39] They—they hang their people and they kill us by means of finance, medical bills, shit like that. [1:23:46] Edu—poor education. [1:23:48] That's how they kill us here. [1:23:51] And in some ways, that's worse than a public execution. [1:23:53] At least that shit was fast. [1:23:56] We gotta watch ourselves die slowly. [1:23:58] And then you gotta watch your kids die slowly. [1:24:01] And there's nothing you can do about it. [1:24:04] They're gonna be in more debt than I've ever been in. [1:24:06] They're born with it. [1:24:11] Well, interestingly enough, and I don't know if you watch the news, but the Iranian people, they took to the streets protesting this U.S. blockade. [1:24:23] So, to your point you were making earlier, where we're supposed to be liberating those people over there and regime change and all of that, [1:24:31] it don't seem to be working. [1:24:34] No. [1:24:35] Because they came to—you know, they went out to the streets, hundreds of thousands, millions of people protesting, like, get the U.S.—like, y'all block that—the street. [1:24:46] We want y'all out of here now. [1:24:48] Mm-hmm. [1:24:48] Yeah. [1:24:49] Like, leave us alone. [1:24:50] That's never worked in our favor. [1:24:52] We've tried it multiple times. [1:24:53] It's never worked. [1:24:55] You might get little pockets of resistance here and there, but for the most part, the overall consensus in that—in the countries we—the countries we attempt to do that in, regime change or have the, you know, population overthrow the government, it's never worked. [1:25:09] We'd be having a lot of great ideas when it comes to war, but they don't really be panning out that way. [1:25:17] We just know how to shoot and bomb. [1:25:19] We get started, just don't know how to finish it. [1:25:25] Okay. [1:25:26] There's another element that we haven't spoken about. [1:25:32] Are you familiar with the War Powers Act? [1:25:34] Mm-hmm. [1:25:36] Because right now, we're at the 60-day mark. [1:25:41] Mm-hmm. [1:25:41] And according to the War Powers Act, we have to give this thing back to Congress, give it back to the House. [1:25:51] Yep. [1:25:52] And let them tell the government, the president for that matter, if he's able to continue this war. [1:26:01] Pete Hegsseff did an interview the other day and was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, there's a loophole. [1:26:09] You know, everybody's screaming about this War Powers Act, but we got a ceasefire going on. [1:26:16] Mm-hmm. [1:26:16] Which pretty much either stops the clock or, at the bare minimum, puts the clock on pause. [1:26:22] Uh-huh. [1:26:23] Uh-huh. [1:26:24] So, how do you see this War Powers Act transpiring, and is it going to make a difference in how we move forward? [1:26:34] And for that matter, because there's no real strategic plan in place, or it appears to be no real strategic plan in place, [1:26:44] is this government, is this administration going to use that as the off-ramp? [1:26:48] Like, hey, we were told we couldn't go any further. [1:26:51] We tried, but finally the war's over. [1:26:54] I don't think the War Powers Act really holds that much weight anyways. [1:26:57] Like, for the past few times we've been to war, we haven't had, like, a congressional hearing for it. [1:27:04] We've just been doing our own thing. [1:27:06] I don't think it really matters. [1:27:07] And you got a president who's, like, pretty open about it, and he's like, the president, do what I want. [1:27:13] If I want to go bomb people, I'm going to go bomb people. [1:27:15] He's not the first president to do it either. [1:27:19] I don't think—I mean, yeah, but tactically, we put a pause on it, if anything, but we're going to continue on until whatever the endgame is, [1:27:32] we're going to keep pushing until we hit that endgame, War Powers Act or not. [1:27:37] Yeah, but I really want you to think about what I just said for one second. [1:27:45] This War Powers Act could get us out of there. [1:27:49] And it could get us out of there and allow this administration to save face, because right now there's really no—like you said, we don't have—we had a fully laid out plan to get us in this thing. [1:28:08] We just didn't have—we don't have one to get us out. [1:28:12] This might be the off-ramp we're looking for. [1:28:14] Could be. [1:28:15] I don't see it, because we're talking about, like, yeah, ego at this point. [1:28:23] We're talking about ego. [1:28:25] That ain't going to be the way it gets us out. [1:28:27] And if—no, because then, like, what was the whole—is the mission accomplished? [1:28:33] Did we really set them back, hey, Iran, no nuclear ever type, you know, scenario? [1:28:39] If not, then we'd just be back in, like, another few years, 10 years or whatever. [1:28:45] Up there doing it again. [1:28:46] We got to go back and keep that same pattern. [1:28:50] Pulling out prematurely, you know? [1:28:53] I don't—with the War Powers Act, if we try to use that to our advantage and get out of it, it would only put us back in Iran 10 years from now, doing the same exact thing. [1:29:03] They said they're not going to stop, but the nuclear procurement and enrichment of uranium, why would they stop? [1:29:13] And then that was, like, one of the whole objectives, one of the main goals to even go in there in the first place. [1:29:17] So they wouldn't be able to do that. [1:29:19] So when they leave, it's like, well, you left prematurely. [1:29:22] You pulled out too fast. [1:29:23] OK, but, you know, and I'm just playing devil's advocate here. [1:29:30] If you're the president, you know, yeah, we'll have to deal with this in 10 years, but I'm in my 80s now. [1:29:42] I might not even be alive in 10 years. [1:29:46] So this getting out of here now, and it's not by my doing, it's not by my hand, I can get out of there kicking and screaming and saying, no, I want to stay. [1:29:57] Mm hmm. At least my legacy is in place and let the president 10 years from now deal with that. [1:30:03] Then why not take that? [1:30:05] Then it would just be like another one of his. [1:30:08] Hey, I said I was going to do something and I didn't do it. [1:30:12] I mean, damn, we have been following along that path is pretty much like this entire presidency from no new wars to lower gas, lower cost of living, lower. [1:30:22] Yeah, I mean, shit's only gotten like worse since. [1:30:27] Yeah, I don't. But if you want to go back on his word and guarantee that Iran never would have a nuclear capability, then, yeah, pull out early. [1:30:37] But if you want to stick to what you said and stay with it, I guess it's just either way. [1:30:46] He did an interview the other day. I'm sure you saw it. [1:30:48] And he made it crystal clear that there is never going to be a deal with these people until they agree that they'll no longer have nuclear weapons. [1:31:00] Mm hmm. He stands by that. Yeah. Yeah. [1:31:03] Now, whether that's posturing, whether that's telling the American public what he believes the American public wants to hear, [1:31:12] whether he truly just believes that deep down in his soul, he is sticking with that. [1:31:21] Yeah. But it's never going to happen. [1:31:25] Exactly. Those people are not going to relent. [1:31:27] Yeah. And it's never going to happen during this administration. [1:31:33] Like, let's just keep it real, brother. What are we talking? [1:31:40] This goes back. This regime came into play in 1979. [1:31:46] Mm hmm. [1:31:46] 1979. [1:31:48] Yeah. Yeah. [1:31:49] They have been running that country as a dictatorship. [1:31:54] Mm hmm. [1:31:54] They have been doing things their way for 47 years now, for 40 something years. [1:32:05] Mm hmm. [1:32:07] What on God's green earth makes us think that even in the two, two and a half years that this administration has. [1:32:18] Right. Yeah. [1:32:19] That the talks can go any like they they have years. [1:32:25] Yeah. [1:32:25] Of holding out, negotiating, waiting people out like this is what they do. [1:32:32] Yeah. [1:32:34] So I just don't see, you know, and maybe I can be looking at unless there's something that that happens. [1:32:39] That's an X factor that none of us is thinking about. [1:32:42] Do we really think we're going to out bomb them, out gun them, out negotiate them, stall them out with economic sanctions? [1:32:52] Like, I just don't see it. [1:32:55] I mean, no, no. [1:32:56] Any any logical thinker shouldn't see it. [1:33:00] Yeah. [1:33:01] My opinion. [1:33:02] We call mission accomplished with Bush in Iraq like weeks into the war. [1:33:07] We stay for fucking over a decade. [1:33:09] Maybe we got to buckle up and who knows, we might be in Iran doing the same bullshit for who knows how long. [1:33:22] Maybe we deal with some not not the people themselves, cockroaches, but resilient, 100 percent like one. [1:33:31] Tough to kill. [1:33:34] They are. [1:33:35] One thing I will give Trump his props on, Trump's like, you know, I ain't sending my people over there no more. [1:33:42] That's an 18 hour flight. [1:33:43] Yep. [1:33:43] Yep. [1:33:43] Like, you know, we going over there and to your point, they writing stuff on the back of napkins. [1:33:49] Like, we might as well, like, man, it could have just been J.D. and his son-in-law like, yo, we not going over there no more. [1:33:58] Like, there's no peace done at that point. [1:33:59] Those flights are long. [1:34:00] That shows you the mentality right there. [1:34:03] You can't negotiate. [1:34:05] What's happening about all the other times that we had, like, these negotiations going on, it was supposed to be going great. [1:34:12] That tells me that was all bullshit. [1:34:14] That was all that was. [1:34:16] If they're acting like this, it's always been that way. [1:34:19] We've just been playing around with the American people at this point and the stock market. [1:34:26] Yeah. [1:34:27] Yeah. [1:34:28] And I'll tell you another thing. [1:34:30] You know, we got to get rid of the middleman. [1:34:37] Yeah. [1:34:37] Yeah. [1:34:38] Like, you know, Pakistan, great. [1:34:40] Right. [1:34:40] Right. [1:34:42] You're playing a neutral party and everybody's meeting on your turf. [1:34:47] But nah, we got to start talking to these people directly. [1:34:50] Exactly. [1:34:51] Yep. [1:34:52] Yep. [1:34:53] And we trust Pakistan now. [1:34:56] Now we trust in Pakistan. [1:34:58] Not too long ago, they was fucking hiding the number one terrorist in the world. [1:35:02] Allegedly. [1:35:03] We were scared about going into Pakistan and go get the number one terrorist in the world. [1:35:09] Allegedly. [1:35:10] And now we want to have, use them as the middleman. [1:35:13] Come on. [1:35:14] We're, we're, we're, we're getting really good at doing that. [1:35:19] Loving our enemy. [1:35:20] We're getting really good at that. [1:35:23] Talent from the Taliban, paying them, making them the government to now Pakistan. [1:35:28] I, I, I remember not too long ago, Pakistan was like a bad fucking, you know, enemy of the United States. [1:35:37] And now we're using them for negotiations. [1:35:39] Kind of, kind of weird to me. [1:35:42] Yeah. [1:35:43] Very much so. [1:35:44] Mm-hmm. [1:35:45] Very much so. [1:35:46] But I think if we are going to, to have any, um, success in moving this thing up the goalposts, we got to get rid of the middleman, man. [1:35:56] Yeah. [1:35:56] You know, it's, it's a waste of everybody's time at this point. [1:36:02] Yep, yep, yep. [1:36:02] Uh, you know, before I let you out of here, Tucker Carlson, uh, we spoke briefly about him a couple of weeks ago. [1:36:11] You know, him and Nick Fuentes and, uh, all the other ones who have now denounced their, their allegiance to the most high. [1:36:20] Yeah. [1:36:21] Um, but he went on his show and he issued a public apology and he said he kind of blames himself. [1:36:31] Um, and he'll be tormented by that for a long time for helping to get Trump in office. [1:36:36] Yeah, yeah. [1:36:37] Yeah, you said, did you see that? [1:36:38] I did, I did, yeah. [1:36:40] I, those demons was eating him up. [1:36:45] Those demons was eating him up and maybe the paycheck wasn't, it don't hit the way it was hitting. [1:36:50] Maybe he already blew that check and now he's getting, dude ain't broke, but all money ain't good money. [1:36:57] I know that, all money ain't good money and sometimes it might take people a little bit of time to figure that out. [1:37:02] But if that's how he really feels, then good on him, good on him. [1:37:08] But it goes to see and goes to show how easy it is to manipulate a population or a large demographic or group of people. [1:37:17] One man can manipulate them into voting for something they may or may not even believe in. [1:37:22] And then years down the line, not even years down the line, a couple years down the line, not even a couple years down the line, dude changes his mind and he's like, [1:37:30] hey, I'm sorry I fucking did that to y'all, influenced you this type of way. [1:37:36] You still got to live with that for the next few years or whatever that decision is. [1:37:40] He's sorry about it, but how do you feel? [1:37:43] You know, but hey, good on him. [1:37:45] If that's how he really feels, yeah. [1:37:50] Yeah, I, you know, truthfully, I don't know if it's real, if it, because over the years and he's done this a couple of times, [1:37:58] but he's profited by talking out of both sides of his mouth. [1:38:02] Um, you know, so for him, I don't know if this is just a play where he knows he's going to make more money for the time being. [1:38:11] But, you know, do you see this guy back in Trump's orbit? [1:38:15] Because it very well could happen. [1:38:19] If so, he'll lose more of his following than he's already lost by flipping on Trump in the first place. [1:38:25] Is he willing to do that? [1:38:27] Or is that anti-Trump talk money really good? [1:38:30] Because he's no, you know he's going to get reshared. [1:38:33] He's going to get talked about by the president, which is only going to get more publicity. [1:38:39] So that anti-Trump rhetoric may be in his, you know, financially may be in his benefit. [1:38:45] I don't know. [1:38:46] But I'm just, I don't know. [1:38:48] All money just ain't good money. [1:38:50] All money ain't good money. [1:38:51] If you, yeah, if you're just saying shit just to say it to get money and that's not how you really feel, that's weird behavior. [1:39:00] Everything I talk about on here is how I really feel. [1:39:02] If we talked offline, if you met me in the grocery store or the gas station, I'm going to still give you the same, the same speech. [1:39:09] How I really feel. [1:39:10] This is how I feel about things. [1:39:11] This is what I think about things. [1:39:15] Okay. [1:39:17] Let's just keep it real, brother. [1:39:19] That's why you're not running for local office. [1:39:22] That's why you're not running for Congress. [1:39:24] That's why you're not a politician. [1:39:26] Yeah, yeah. [1:39:26] I have watched everybody in Trump's cabinet, literally all of them, call this man everything but the son of God. [1:39:39] Right, right, right. [1:39:40] They have all, I mean, what's homeboy's name from Florida? [1:39:48] DeSantis. [1:39:50] Not DeSantis. [1:39:51] DeSantis hasn't turned on him yet. [1:39:53] Uh-huh. [1:39:53] Because DeSantis is about to stop being the governor of Florida. [1:39:58] His time is up. [1:39:59] Mm-hmm. [1:40:00] So I'm sure that there's some bigger aspirations from him. [1:40:03] So he can't turn on him yet. [1:40:05] But, um, I forget, not Ted Cruz. [1:40:08] Oh. [1:40:08] The other one up. [1:40:10] Oh, I was going to say, yeah, Ted Cruz? [1:40:11] Not Ted Cruz. [1:40:12] Not Ted Cruz. [1:40:13] No, not Ted Cruz. [1:40:13] It'll come right back to me because he's been part of the negotiations as well. [1:40:18] But anyway, he's called everything, he's called Trump everybody, everything from a con man. [1:40:23] Mm-hmm. [1:40:23] Um, he's a liar. [1:40:25] He's a joke. [1:40:26] He wasn't, and now he's one of the closest people to Trump. [1:40:30] Right, right. [1:40:31] Like, literally. [1:40:32] So as a politician, I don't know if any of these dudes believe one word they're saying. [1:40:39] I don't care if you're a Democrat. [1:40:40] I don't care if you're a Republican. [1:40:41] I don't care where you stand. [1:40:44] You, you're going where the money's at. [1:40:45] Facts. [1:40:46] You, you're going where you think you can have the biggest influence and, and you're going [1:40:50] to get in where you fit in. [1:40:51] Yep, yep. [1:40:51] It's just that simple. [1:40:53] A hundred percent. [1:40:54] A hundred percent. [1:40:54] No lie, no lie detected on my end. [1:40:57] That's, uh, yeah, a hundred percent facts. [1:41:00] Yeah, I mean, um, I, I just don't trust any of them. [1:41:05] Nope. [1:41:07] And it's, it's just that simple for me. [1:41:10] And now it's bugging me. [1:41:13] Hey, maybe, if, if anything, they're waking up a lot of people. [1:41:15] To make them, uh, you know, open their eyes. [1:41:18] I'm like, you can't trust no politician. [1:41:20] The politics is for a reason. [1:41:23] And, you know, it was, it was killing me, um, just now that I couldn't remember his name. [1:41:28] I'm talking about the secretary of state, Marco Rubio. [1:41:30] Marco Rubio. [1:41:31] Gotcha. [1:41:31] Yeah. [1:41:31] Yeah, like, but, but it's all of them. [1:41:34] It's, it's, it's all of them. [1:41:35] Mm-hmm. [1:41:36] So, you know, they, they have all at one point or another denounced him. [1:41:44] And soon as they realized, yo, if I want a career in politics, I'm going to have to kiss the ring. [1:41:50] They all did. [1:41:51] Yep. [1:41:51] Yep. [1:41:54] Okay. [1:41:55] Uh, we'll be back here in a week. [1:41:59] Mm-hmm. [1:42:00] What's your prediction? [1:42:02] Where, where, where, how do you see the next seven days playing out? [1:42:06] I think it's going to be an escalation in Trump rhetoric, which is nothing new, but possibly a new deadline. [1:42:17] A new deadline before we start bombing again. [1:42:21] He might put out another deadline and, hey, I'm going to start bombing that ass again if we don't get some reasonable negotiations going, which we know is not going to happen. [1:42:30] And then Trump, all he's going to do is just push the deadline a little bit further until it, like, magically fades away into the air. [1:42:39] And we're back at square one. [1:42:41] And everyone's going to be asking the same questions we've been asking. [1:42:44] Why are we still fighting this stupid war? [1:42:48] That's what, yeah, that's what's been, yeah, that's exactly what we're going to be. [1:42:51] Do we, I don't know, I give it like three more weeks before, two to three weeks before we start dropping bombs again. [1:43:00] And in between that time, Iran's going to f*** up and do something with the drones and attack another naval ship or somebody trying to go through the Strait of Hormuz. [1:43:10] And it's just going to keep escalating from there. [1:43:14] Iran's not going to sit quiet this entire time with their hands underneath their ass. [1:43:19] No. [1:43:22] To long story short, no end in sight. [1:43:25] No, no end in sight. [1:43:26] Hell no. [1:43:27] No time soon at all. [1:43:29] I would not be surprised at this rate. [1:43:31] I wouldn't be surprised we go into next year doing the same s***. [1:43:36] You're fighting a resilient people. [1:43:39] Pray not. [1:43:39] I pray not. [1:43:40] But at this rate, what's being accomplished? [1:43:46] If we left, it'd be like, well, what did we accomplish? [1:43:49] We've obliterated their nuclear s*** like two times, three times now. [1:43:53] We destroyed their military like 20 times. [1:43:58] We've won the war like 40 times. [1:44:00] And we're still trying to negotiate how we can get out of this war that we've won 40-something times, whatever, how many times it's been. [1:44:06] So I wouldn't be surprised if we're like, hey, we've won this war like 365 times now. [1:44:12] But now we've got to figure out how we're going to end this war through more negotiations by 2030. [1:44:19] Well, you know, I said early on, I didn't see this thing ending anytime soon. [1:44:27] You're right. [1:44:28] I stand by that. [1:44:29] You're right. [1:44:29] You know, I stand by that. [1:44:32] I don't see, you know. [1:44:35] And again, any master negotiator is not going to show his full hand. [1:44:41] So maybe Trump has something. [1:44:43] Maybe he has a Trump card, no pun intended, that he's just not showing yet. [1:44:49] Hypersonic and ballistic missiles. [1:44:51] That's what's next up. [1:44:53] Yeah. [1:44:53] But what's that going to do? [1:44:55] Because at the end of the day, Nick, you go over there, there have been schools hit. [1:45:01] There's something to the effect of 1,500 civilians who were already killed. [1:45:09] This guy is a nut hair away from being brought up on war charges. [1:45:16] Like, he can't afford to go in there with so much destruction before this turns into World War III, man. [1:45:28] The whole war charges and war crimes, like, even if that did come about, nothing would happen. [1:45:35] I mean, Netanyahu's been brought up on war charges, and his name's been floating around with that for, like, a long time now. [1:45:43] And he goes through and wipes out an entire, tries to, population of people damn near. [1:45:49] Nothing happens to him. [1:45:51] Nothing's going to happen to Trump. [1:45:53] War is, that's the new frontier of war, I guess, where we can, those ain't my words, but destroy an entire civilization. [1:46:03] Bomb you back to the Stone Age, like, do whatever you want as president. [1:46:08] Do whatever you want. [1:46:09] Nothing's going to happen. [1:46:11] It just, it's power. [1:46:13] It's power. [1:46:14] What's going to happen? [1:46:16] I'm still going to do my interview. [1:46:18] I'm still going to tell this to shut up. [1:46:20] And I'm going to go home and dream about sleeping with Melania. [1:46:24] Because that's it. [1:46:30] Nah, great point. [1:46:31] Great point. [1:46:32] You're absolutely right. [1:46:33] Benjamin Netanyahu has, you know, he's been accused of war crimes, and to this minute, nothing's happened. [1:46:43] So, and same thing with Putin. [1:46:47] Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. [1:46:48] Yeah, same thing with Putin. [1:46:50] All right, my brother, until we have the opportunity to sit down again, as always, I appreciate your insight. [1:46:59] I appreciate, you know, your dialogue, your friendship, and I appreciate, you know, just what you're giving to the people. [1:47:08] On behalf of myself and all of the viewers, listeners over here at Vlad TV, we love you, I love you, and, you know, I can't wait to do it again. [1:47:19] Much love, brother. [1:47:20] I appreciate you. [1:47:23] My brother. [1:47:23] My brother.