Nicholas Irving on Skeptical Ceasefire, Calls U.S. Withdrawal a Reluctant Win (Full Interview)

[00:00:00] Speaker 1: here we go here we go back with another episode of the war report sitting with my brother sergeant nicholas irvin he's back in the hot seat so can't wait to get his take on everything [00:00:18] Nicholas Irvin: going on in iran right now nick what up brother what's going on what's going on it's all good [00:00:25] Speaker 1: how are you i'm good i'm good good to see you as always um yo nick there's a lot going on a lot of developments i can't wait to get into this conversation um same same looks like we might [00:00:40] Nicholas Irvin: have a ceasefire on our head i mean if you as of this morning when i checked they were bombing uh uh they had sent drones into the strait of harmuz iran they've been ever since this whole thing has been started iran has been sending drones into the strait and they're still vowing to like retaliate against uh israel for the bombing in lebanon [00:01:05] Speaker 1: okay this is taking a turn my bad my bad because i'm thinking we about to have a little celebratory conversation to some extent yeah we can't but and the only reason i'm saying that is we have we'll call it a ceasefire but there's a deal in place which is essentially uh it prolongs the ceasefire uh-huh it's not a deal per se but it is a memorandum of understanding yeah yeah so is by your standards uh and and from what you have been reading seeing and what you know about war are we heading in the right place is this deal real or is this just a prolonged approach to the ceasefire who because they couldn't get all their points together and both sides needed to save face that last part [00:02:17] Nicholas Irvin: that last part i'm thinking like if this does go through then it goes back to what we talked about i think a couple weeks ago of like you know what we might just gotta take the l on this one and if the reports are true we haven't seen the 14 point plan yet you know we haven't seen it i've heard things that are within it but then as we're getting on i'm looking stuff up and allegedly trump said we're not going to put a cent into this like alleged 300 million 300 billion dollar deal with iran you know to get them on their feet but i think that if this does go through that that's that's a huge that's a win in my part in my eyes that's a win it might be a l on like the global stage because we didn't accomplish anything what regime change you know what was irgc they're still there they're still doing what they want to do i don't think that we accomplished what we wanted to accomplish but i do think that we should we should have not been there in the first place so to get out is a good thing and however you can get out nigga that that that's a win to me that's a win i think it does prolong things though but we're banking on within that deal i mean you gotta bank on israel not hitting lebanon and us pulling all our troops out the region i don't i don't see israel stopping firing their weapons at lebanon i don't see that [00:03:57] Speaker 1: there's a lot to unpack here and i want to take it slow yeah because you mentioned a lot of things one of which was regime change so let's start there according to uh the reports and the 14-point plan the official 14-point plan we don't have it yet it's such a great deal we can't even see it i mean maybe by the time that this thing airs the official plan will be out at this moment all of what we're discussing is speculative yeah but trump just did a press conference from the g7 conference in france and he addressed the regime and through uh this entire war it's i mean to my knowledge it's always been about regime change that was high up on the list yeah he literally just praised the iran leadership literally i i'd say no less than a half hour ago in his press conference in helping to get this deal done so with that being said i don't think when the official 14-point plan becomes public the the changing of the regime will be anywhere in it [00:05:34] Nicholas Irvin: no no no no same same exact thing and that's why i think like i said it's an we got to take this out the american people don't want this war people who go everybody who goes to put gas in a car they don't want the war nobody wants it i think right now what it is and why it's being so slow to being released i think that there's a lot of things in that plan that may not benefit america and you got to remember like what trump ran on it was make america great right i hope nothing in there is make iran great again or whatever just making iran great i hope it's not that but it's looking like it's been stalled for so long i mean if it's a good plan it's a good plan if not but it gets us out of the war whatever but if we have to benefit if iran comes away with like most of the stuff that they want or even a little bit we're talking about a terrorist regime and who like who are the officials we know the irgc basically runs iran they do what they want there's no agreement with them there's no agreement with israel israel already said uh benjamin netanyahu he already said i don't want this has nothing to do with me he's going to continue to do his whole greater israel plan and that's what it's about but if it gets us out then yeah i'm fine with that i'm not going to say it was the if if if this is what you classify as like the art of the deal i don't i don't i would never [00:07:13] Speaker 1: follow that game plan okay so in simple terms in your opinion is this a deal of desperation is this just something that we had to get done uh for various reasons yeah the we are looking at if this thing goes on much longer there will be a a global uh financial collapse it's not just the u.s um iran their economy is well underwater but it affects everybody yep so was everybody just so desperate to get to get it done they found a way hey you know what we got this 14 point plan and we'll go through what we know or what's being said that's in there but you know what we got something done and to your point we got out of there so it's a win call it desperate but it is a win for the united states yeah yeah [00:08:21] Nicholas Irvin: it's a win within the united states but a l on the global stage i mean this whole thing was supposed to only last a couple just that simple yeah it was supposed to last a couple weeks we were supposed to go in there drop some weapons off to i think the kurds uh to the thing and start like a quote unquote like revolution um an uprising none of this stuff happened the initial things we went in there for none of it happened and if it one of the if one of the bullet points in there is like iran can never have a nuclear weapon i mean we've been allegedly dealing with this situation for how long now i mean i don't and then to negotiate with a terrorist organization our nation for that matter if you want to call it that we label it that i don't the united states does our government our politicians do they deem it as such i don't think that um like i've never been one to believe a dude who's just like nothing about violence we should not do the same thing with iran i get it but we'll be back here in like five or ten years we'll say the same thing the same thing iran's seeking nuclear weapons they broke the deal they've broken many of deals i mean go back to like the even as as soon as the obama administration when they give them like 1.7 billion or whatever it was on a power on pallets in cash money look where we're at today the same thing i don't think we can ever trust a terrorist organization but i also believe that we should have never been like a part of it if they if israel and iran want to fight let them duke it out let them throw blows let them do what they have to do i don't think it has nothing like to do with us i personally don't if if if making america great again was like that's what you ran on and i'm not saying i would if if i ever were like an elected politician or something like that i wouldn't run on that campaign but just know like that's my best interest that should always be the president's best interest it shouldn't be making some other nation greater again i just want to focus on us that's it and by us getting out of it if that's what the deal includes no matter how bad it is i hope we don't have to give him no money but we got out though we got out we're saving people's lives receiving young american boys and girls lives and a cause we should have never even been like a part [00:11:03] Speaker 1: of it either way you know you're right this thing uh that the president ran on make america great again but in in fairness to him and the administration is he within his right um within the best interest of americans to say look if we are looking at the world playing field the greatest danger to the world to the world is iran and iran getting access to nuclear warheads him going in and saying look i i'm gonna do what i need to do to make sure the u.s is safe but the world is safe because we just can't trust this particular people with that type of weapon of mass destruction i can i get does he get any go ahead [00:12:19] Nicholas Irvin: no i get where you're going i mean i definitely get it but i mean you look at north korea look at china there's a lot of other countries with nuclear weapons only one country has used them everybody and we were quick to use it i mean we dropped two of them atomic bombs we didn't have no issue with killing hundreds of thousands millions in the long run of innocent people we're the only ones that have ever used them so i and i go back to the whole thing of like you know who are we it's like throwing stones in a glass house at this point like how are we to say you can't have them you we're more morally right to kill innocent people than you are we can do that we can kill about hundreds of thousands about a millions but nah i don't like it when you do it it's the fact we don't go after these other countries that don't like us and do chant the same thing iran has been chanting death to america we don't with north korea we don't want to go fighting with them we don't want to go fighting with china all these other nuclear superpowers we are pakistan we don't want to mess with these people we're letting pakistan be like the middleman at some point allegedly with these negotiations pakistan is the same people that was supposedly harboring osama bin laden the number one terrorist in the world it's the same country we don't mess with them because they do have nuclear weapons we don't want anybody else to because that limits the access we have to mess with people in the middle east we don't want to mess with nobody with nuclear weapons we want to be the ones to have them and if you already have had them we don't we don't we don't do nothing it's just a bunch of tough talk but on a moral stage morally who are we to say america should have no and i love my country but we should have no i i believe like we don't have no right of saying oh these are a this is a terrorist organization terrorist country and they just want to kill innocent women and children like we didn't do that in 1945 do we drop two bombs in cities knowing what it was going like going to do so i mean that's not that long ago there's people who are still alive from that era so who are we to have this more high ground and standpoint to say we don't want you to have this weapon because it's going to kill and that's all you want to do is kill military or not military but innocent civilians we bombed innocent civilians like we're the only ones that have ever used that so why should we be on this moral high ground to say you can't have it you can't have it you can't have it and the ones that do have it why aren't we at war with them i mean north korea is allegedly just like bad bad country that i mean not too long ago in my lifetime relatively like in the past decade it was a threat with north korea can't have nuclear weapons we're supposedly we hate russia we hate china we do all these things but you know what they all have in common and we've never been there they got nuclear weapons damn um yeah well said well said well [00:15:52] Speaker 1: but you know and again i'm i'm just raising a point here if you listen to bb netanyahu yeah he will say if he heard your uh particular commentary he would say look nick you know north korea russia um china they are not the number one state sponsor of terrorism around the globe okay iran is yeah and the minute that they get their hand on a nuclear weapon they will be dropping it on us what do you say to that [00:16:42] Nicholas Irvin: fight your own ship man like that it's as simple as that i mean for them to be if you're my ally if you're my boy and let's say if i see you getting your ass whooped while i jump in yeah i'm gonna jump in you're my boy i gotta help you out but to be my boy whatever and we're like we're cool like that you would have had to have we have a relationship pause on a manly relationship standpoint to where like if i need something you're gonna help me out if you need something i got you but it's a it when it becomes a one-sided relationship where all i do is give you my money and support you and you don't give us nothing it's not a relationship i'm a ho and you the pimp that's all it is if i see you getting jumped hey that's on you bro that's on you you never helped me out why would i want to step in to help you out now and a fight's a fight if you want to be this big ass nation this big bad nation take care of yourself and i'm not the only one even it was a joe kent which is a friend recently like recently left the administration and now he was talking about the same thing about we should stop the funding of israel i'm all about that we don't get nothing i mean we're talking billions and billions of dollars annually i forget the exact number what it would like what it is we're giving israel it's in the billions i want to say four close to four three point seven three point nine four billion something like that annually i don't see the the purpose in it we don't get nothing from it all we get is a chance to say hey you're our greatest ally and a bunch of politicians get funded through a pack but fight your own war that's what i would tell bb like yo do that man handle that yourself i've been to war in two different two different places iraq and afghanistan you know what i didn't see i didn't see israelis there i saw some other people from other nations there small little units the brits but i didn't see israelis helping us in this global world terrorism if we're about terrorism you weren't popping off over there you were not me you weren't shooting with me when i was in the gym as unfortunately rick ross would say you weren't with me when i was shooting in the gym and why you want it now i feel like that let israel take care of their own problem if that's their issue hey you take care of it i think we should have no part [00:19:35] Speaker 1: in it i think america needs a break from combat i don't think anybody um listening to this would disagree with you america needs a break from combat um there's something that i want to discuss with you and go a little bit and go a little bit into detail the jcpoa um you know better known better known as the uh the iran nuclear deal it was signed in 2015 in 2015 we had or iran had uh and i want to make sure i get my numbers correct here in 2015 iran had about 7 000 kilograms of low enriched uranium up to five percent purity they also had 196 um kilograms of medium enriched uranium up to 20 percent purity after that deal was signed in 2015 they dramatically lowered their stockpile to something like just just around 300 kilograms of enriched uranium with a maximum purity of about 3.67 you following me yeah yeah okay trump gets into office in 2016 he blasts that deal he blasts the obama administration he said it was the worst deal he had ever seen and by 2018 he withdrew from the jcpoa this is what people are not looking at i see where you're going yup yup keep going between 2018 and now 2026 that stockpile the iranians that they went to work yeah they was like oh y'all y'all withdrawing we're going to work yep the stockpile has dramatically increased now they have 440 kilograms of uranium enriched up to 60 percent purity weapons grade uh uranium is 90 percent they have another 200 kilograms of uranium um enriched up to 20 percent so and then they have another 6 000 uh kilograms of uranium enriched up to five percent trump is he's going at this uh country with a vengeance you cannot have you cannot uh enrich uranium you cannot have nuclear grade weapons well it was during your freaking presidency yeah yeah yeah they were able to stock up yeah they weren't even close until you came in so it's it's he's fighting a battle that he [00:23:01] Nicholas Irvin: created or am i looking at this wrong you know what's crazy that's america's like mo we fight the battles that we create and that goes from even osama bin ladan back when back when he was called tim osmond due to cia he was an asset we helped fund him we helped arm him we helped him fight we created we gave him money fun yeah we created our own enemy when you look at like the people that america had al-qaeda isis you name it the majority of the people that we're fighting these days like we funded we helped create all that we have to keep it's a military industrial complex america on that standpoint we think three-dimensional chess if you want to call it that but we're always going to end up funding our own enemy it might take five or ten years but i mean who are we fighting that's new who are we fighting that's new we fund them all we fund it from oh bin laden al-qaeda taliban and we're about to do the same thing right now with iran but hey if this is the art of the deal it's it's it's a deal i want no part of that i want no part of that but i mean this is trump we talking about i'm not knocking i'm not trying to be like i'm not a trump hater i don't have the whole trump derangement syndrome whatever you want to call it i try to call it how i see it and i'm looking at i mean he's an 80 year old man if y'all put that much faith in an 80 year old dude i got some i would love to sell you some land in the middle of the pacific ocean [00:24:57] Speaker 1: yeah i mean um you know just just to to zone in on this deal just a little bit more uh from what i understand and again it's not released it's a 14-point plan which is a memorandum again of understanding and it's one and a half pages from what's being reported the jcpoa that deal was at least 18 pages long god so how much the real question is how much is being left out [00:25:45] Nicholas Irvin: what do you mean wait wait how much is being left out as far as what [00:25:50] Speaker 1: think about it i know trump's number one agenda is iran will never get their hands on a nuclear weapon but does it address them being uh the greatest proxies of american i mean of terrorism around the world does it this deal gives them immediate not immediate uh it gives them access to a 300 billion dollar fund um for clarity it's monies that has been frozen from iran [00:26:31] Nicholas Irvin: what do they do with the money does it address like you know what they finna do with it i mean you know what you know what like if i mean come bomb me at this point come by me all i got to do is withstand it and i'm gonna get some billions out of it hey i got no coming after me too but i think we all know if it's the number one terrorist proxy country in the world and you give these people 300 billion dollars what do you think they finna do with that i know what i would do with it if i was a bad dude i know what i would do it do with it if i wasn't a bad dude but you just put bombs on my head for the past hundred days i know what i'm about to do with it i might have not been a bad guy but i'm about to be now with 300 billion yeah you can only spend so much of the strip club you can only do so much [00:27:40] Speaker 1: after that well according to iran they're saying yo y'all bummed the hell out of us we got to get back up on our feet we need money for infrastructure [00:27:51] Nicholas Irvin: okay so paul so like the what's the purpose of war at this point what's the purpose war in my eyes war should not be fought like that war should be war is brutal war is war we go kill and that's it when we're done killing i'm out we're done but if i have to like come beat your little ass pause if i got to come beat you up bomb you do all this stuff and then after i get done doing it pay you some money i don't want to fight you i don't there's no point there's no point in it if i have to pay you after i beat you up i don't know how america we have like i said since the way back in the beginning we have no idea of how to get out of a conflict or a war for that matter we have no idea we love to start it we know how to start it but we don't know how to get out and if getting out means i got to give you or fund you and supply you with money and you're allegedly this terrorist we didn't kill all the terrorists in that country the irgs irgc is still in command in my opinion they're still bombing us straight they're still sending out drones we didn't kill everybody where's the sun at where's the i mean there's a lot of questions i would love to ask but what did we accomplish what did we accomplish all for what to give you some money or to fund you other than that we didn't accomplish nothing we got to take the yell though on the global stage that's exactly what i think it's going to look like unless this whole understanding thing you're expecting and these ain't even my words like trump has said it the same way i have like you can't trust these people but here we are about to trust them and they're terrible at deals if we do trust them give them all this money give them access to it then hey we'll be back in five or ten years okay you just said we can't trust [00:30:00] Speaker 1: them and they're terrible at deals according to president trump uh and i quote iran has never won a war but they have always won the deal oh that's his words so maybe you're not on point with that and maybe you're not in alignment with the president right now [00:30:28] Nicholas Irvin: hey i hey listen we've also won the war 39 times i've been saying we haven't the war was over 39 times ago i mean believe me i'll believe the dude who told you 39 times we're done fighting but now we have a uh paperwork that says we have somewhat of an understanding nothing's final yet nothing's final nothing's final i think regardless of what all this is i think it like economically this was like to calm some down that was it this happened around the same time not only the whole ufc fight thing his birthday you gotta look at like he just hit like his lowest approval rating and all the presidents in the history of america was like 20 something percent or something like that was extremely low so you pop this little paperwork out i don't know i don't do i believe it do i buy it i personally don't i don't i think we're gonna be back to square one here soon if not good deal on my end we don't have to have any more american flag drake caskets flying home we don't have to worry about that but on the global stage none of this looks good it looks like america should stop we know how to bomb we're very tactical we're a good military but when you're dealing with people who just have like resilience no quit attitude it's kind of hard to win a war and what is winning like we've accomplished winning back in the day when i was in getting rid of osama bin laden and getting rid of saddam hussein we got rid of saddam hussein and his sons early on and we stayed there for what 18 19 20 years i don't america lost its way when it comes to how to fight a war there's no we don't have a finish line objective we just have violence nothing wrong with that in certain cases but you got to have an exit strategy you pull out game our pullout game is is weak in america it's very weak i might need to give some lessons yo i mean you asked the question earlier i got a kid what am i talking about exactly [00:33:11] Speaker 1: you asked the question earlier and i think it's a valid question you said what did we get out of this um and i want to present something to you because if you know if i were were were a huge fan of this administration this would be one of my key arguments okay okay part of the reason that trump and his first administration was so against the jcpoa was that number one we gave them a boatload of money i think we gave them access to something like 50 uh 50 million dollars 50 million excuse me 50 million 50 million dollars but here they have access to 300 billion but we can attack that later that's six times more but be it as it may there was a sunset clause in the original uh in the original uh jcpoa framework which essentially said that iran would not uh harvest or enrich uranium but it would expire in 10 to 15 years which is now essentially it's 2015 by 2025 2030 there was an expiration date we got to come sit back at the table and deal with you essentially you know starting to get your stockpile up again but trump is saying the way my deal is structured they will never ever have the ability to harvest or enrich uranium or enrich uranium but i'll go one better no one will be able to sell and they will not be able to buy a nuclear weapon so the chance of them ever getting their hands on the nuclear weapon is slim to none is slim to none is that a win [00:35:32] Nicholas Irvin: yeah i mean you can look at it yeah as a win you can if that was the objective then yeah i'll give you i'll give him that i'll give him that i'll give him i'll give him that but i don't think that will i don't think that will or iran will stay committed to that agreement throughout the longevity of their existence no never means forever i don't believe that no maybe during his presidency but who's to stop the next president 10 years from now or not 10 years the next five five presidents from now three presidents from now to like say hey the worst president in our country and the history of america was trump i'm not saying i'm just saying somebody else says that and they want to like go back and and redo all the deals that he's done just the same as he's done that trump has done i don't know i never met i don't know i don't i don't think that they'll be obligated to like stay with that deal i don't believe that if it gets knocked out in the meantime then yeah great but i just don't really care i mean if iran had nuclear weapons and they wanted to attack a diff like a country over there and that was the biggest threat to that one country over there let that country deal with it they don't have like internet uh intercontinental ballistic missiles they can reach us there's there's people around them not people there's countries in the world proximity-wise that are closer to us than iran will ever be and they have nuclear weapons we don't touch them but i mean if iran wants to do what they i just don't i don't get us being the whole world police deal like why do we have to be the world police that's my thing we poke our nose and everything i just i'm it's it's a weird complex for this country to have it's a weird complex i think that we think that we are better than everyone whether or not we have the best country in the world that's debatable you can look at it best when it comes to prices health care schooling if you want to look at the best country in the world if you still believe that we have the best country in the world then that's you but you got to define to me what the best country in the world means one two if we are that why are we so stuck in putting our face in everybody else's business i don't agree with that the whole moral high ground standing i don't i don't agree with that we all make mistakes ain't nobody better than nobody but live your life how you want to live it but as long as you're not putting your hands on me i don't have an issue they more so want to put their hands on another country because they feel that we have this butt buddy tie together and it's like in order to hurt y'all i gotta hurt them it is what it is but i i don't think we should be fighting other people's wars either let that country deal with it [00:39:05] Speaker 1: you know you said you don't believe we should be the world police which i wholeheartedly agree with you but if you're looking at the jcpoa deal which was signed in 2015 to participate in states in entities it included china france germany russia the uk uh why do you think because if we look at this obama left office at the end of 2015 if i remember correct going into trump came in in early january 2016. he did his four years within those four years 2018 he withdrew from the jcpoa Biden steps in in 2020 biden was the vice president under obama why do you think biden didn't reach out to the same countries and entities that were originally part of the jcpoa and say let's reinstitute this let's revisit this thing it made sense trump's out of here now we have the ability to put it back together and stop them from enriching the uranium why didn't he do it two reasons [00:40:50] Nicholas Irvin: he was probably sleeping the other reason i can't knock biden too much i just seen the pictures of trump dozed off too many a times but no he my personal opinion i don't think that presidents really be in charge like that i think that they're an actor for a certain time and america i think the the ones that behind the scenes that run this country they need things to happen at a certain way or whatever it gives us something to talk about it could be as much as that but i think that like what makes this country run is it being a military industrial complex you got to keep things going without war what would america be without war what will we be i think that's the issue i think that things may be put in place knowing like i'm okay at chess right but if i went up against like a grand wizard master at chess and he was like thinking 10 steps ahead there's no way i could beat that guy so i'm only thinking three by me thinking three i think this whole thing has always been set up and playing out to be the way it's gonna be it keeps us it keeps the longevity of the money flow of us being a military industrial complex what else do we do as a nation we don't know what peace is i don't know what peace is i grew up around war desert storm desert shield before that yeah the cold war my son that's all he knows like we don't we're talking generations now my parents they had to go through it vietnam and all that then you go back before that world war ii that that's generations we've been dealing with war i don't think that america would not know how to be america or what america would be without war or conflict so you put these if i'm a big time money man the people that really run the country no i don't institute that biden go back to sleep because in about four years when you get kicked out i need something that i need to we don't go back and do that biden's whole thing was with afghanistan us withdrawing from afghanistan before that was obama with afghanistan and iraq and then before that was bush with iraq and afghanistan every president's got their thing you got to keep the keep keep it going it's all money flow it's all a [00:43:40] Speaker 1: money flow yeah i mean um you raise great points um this nation was built on war uh i don't think any generation um i mean we're celebrating 250 years out of that was 250 years i don't know if we've seen 10 years exactly of peace exactly exactly in that wild yeah that's it's insane yeah yeah i mean when we weren't fighting other countries we were [00:44:17] Nicholas Irvin: fighting ourselves yeah yeah civil war you know how much of a problem you gotta have to like i don't have nobody else to beat someone beat myself bro like you're wild man you got an issue bro [00:44:38] Speaker 3: get help man nah but that's real talk like but we wasn't bombing dudes overseas dudes was lacing up and going to war with ourselves it was like so you're so you spot on when you like yo all we know is war like that's real talk we celebrating 250 years of war of war exactly and then it got to be there to be called freedom 250 exactly yeah this is 250 years of war oh free [00:45:17] Nicholas Irvin: ain't no freedom we are bound to war we're a slave to it this nation is a slave to war i think it's embarrassing that we can go out there we don't know anything different yep and you can go tell other countries nah y'all should be fighting this war you know let me get involved it don't make no sense y'all don't need to be doing this that's what i do i got this the minute the minute america gets some motion you know y'all want to stop it that's my thing [00:45:55] Speaker 3: oh my god nah that that's that's as real as you could put it man yo you know something [00:46:03] Speaker 1: this this this ceremony because the agreement from what i understand it's been signed already this memorandum of understanding it's been signed but the ceremony is happening uh in a day or two okay how about your man trump is not gonna be there he's sitting in this guy jd jd vance [00:46:27] Nicholas Irvin: is that the setup come on it's a setup that way when this don't go through he did it again exactly trump is but nothing surprises me though like dude's a he's a funny guy he's a funny guy do i think this thing's gonna go through and they're gonna uphold their end of the deal not necessarily no i don't i also think that even if it does go through it doesn't mean that israel's gonna stop bombing whoever the fuck they want to bomb and iran's gonna go back and do what they're doing retaliating and what does that going to mean for us we got to get drawn back into this thing again and i think people are getting confused this is not like a definitive war is done mission accomplished george bush moment this is just like a memorandum of understanding we don't know who it's being signed i mean i don't who are we signing this with there's always two like two two truths to a story whatever not even two truths i'm sorry i take that back you get iran that says one thing you get america that says one thing and somewhere in the middle there's the truth we never get a chance to see that middle portion of it that middle part we've been told things since the beginning 100 days ago about where this thing was going to go i don't i don't know i hope it's all good and we can bow out be done and let them hash it out the way they want to hash it out that's the way we want to go but i don't think that we should have ever been involved with this got into it but i think trump is starting to see that too i don't think that there there is no like winning this war and if you want to win we got to be there for like 20 something years and kill kill them all you'd have to but right now with his approval ratings and he loves their approval ratings and when they start showing up on fox news you know that really hits him right in the gut and he's like nah that i can't have fox dissing me uh-uh i can't do that so let me go ahead and try to just gracefully bow out nothing wrong with it i talked about it but should have did this a long time ago i also just i just don't think iran's gonna follow through with [00:48:59] Speaker 1: it let alone israel yo you know off topic but on topic i just had a thought because when when trump did his press conference from um from from the g7 summit over in france earlier today he had marco rubio standing by his side but he's sending the vice president jd vance to sign this memorandum or to the ceremony of the signing of this memorandum of understanding it's a show but but i guess my question is is is he's because i think we both agree this is the setup for your man jd no is he setting marco rubio up to be the next president of the united states oh hell no no no no [00:49:58] Nicholas Irvin: not marco i mean even if he did who's gonna vote for him who's gonna vote that there's no if marco listen if he ever decided to run or be president i gotta put my hat into at this point like it's a game it's a joke i'm gonna show you how much of a joke it is especially if i win i'm electric it's a joke it's a joke marco rubio better not don't know who's gonna vote for him he's a warmonger like nobody wants to vote for this he looks like pinocchio you know i'm saying he looks like a ventriloquist dummy that's what he reminds me of i can't take somebody like that serious like we've all been there we know what it what it is to have like a uh i'm not saying i would i'm just saying he's got a very punchable face you know i can't listen to someone trust someone i don't want to do with a punchable face to like run this country i don't know i can't have that he looks like he's a weird looking dude i can't uh there's no power he does not exhilarate power he don't have no aura as these kids say nowadays he don't have no aura he just looks like you could drop kick him right in his chest bro i don't like that okay so let's let's call it for what it is these [00:51:18] Speaker 1: mega extremists who follow trump blindly no matter what he does no matter what he says no matter if it makes sense right no matter how contradictory it is to something he said 20 minutes earlier yep they are going to fight you don't think if he says this is my guy this is my guy they're not going to say nick irvin we heard everything you said but screw you yeah he has a face that should be punched he looks like a ventriloquist doll and all of that but the big [00:51:55] Nicholas Irvin: homie just said vote for him and that's what we're doing i think mac is so shattered right now and so divided there wouldn't be enough votes for even for him to even win i think they're so divided and shattered right now even the base even the base if you put me and marco rubio in the same room and like had a debate on just foreign possible uh policy i think i'm coming out on top i'm coming out on top like no one but you are right though there are some really dumb blind led followers of the whole trump thing that they would vote for him i just think i could out vote him though i just think i i really do don't let him do that because that means i got to pull my card i'm not trying to do that i don't want no i don't want no no problems with no being like a politician nah i don't need that in my life but you know what though yeshua didn't want it either but hey that will be done bro that will be done [00:53:02] Speaker 1: i'll do what i gotta do well you know i'm gonna tell you something if i hadn't seen what i've seen over the last uh 10 years 10 years why 10. yeah because because i'm going i'm going trump first presidency 2016 to 2020. biden getting in office trump campaigning for it felt like the entire uh biden term trump was out there hitting the trail and now he's back you know and he's two years in so just under two years so it's about 10 years if i hadn't seen what i seen i might buy into everything you're saying nick oh but this guy seems to have a grasp on the amer or on a portion of the american public like nothing i've ever seen i mean he said before he won the first presidency uh he said i could shoot a dude in the face on fifth avenue yeah and i get away with it yeah i believe him me too at this [00:54:16] Nicholas Irvin: point yeah you got to yeah yeah you got to um damn he might got me beat on that one sean he probably got [00:54:25] Speaker 1: me beat on that one i mean we we could literally do a whole show of the stuff that this dude's gotten away with everything from grabbing by the pussy to you know sleeping with an ex porn star behind his wife's back um i mean where does this where does it begin and where does it end like you can literally we could we could spend an entire episode on just the things that the lies he's been caught up in that's [00:54:57] Nicholas Irvin: true we could spend a whole week on how many times we won the war and the war is over too you know yeah on just that so don't even include the the past four years plus this going up on two we can go a hundred days from like up within the past hundred days we've won the war war's done like 39 times and we still don't know if it's done yet this is a memorandum of understanding like we allegedly understand something and from what i've seen that what he said in the g7 summit today he said if he didn't like it we're going back to dropping bombs on heads he said that right before i got here so i don't know how far this thing is going to go i don't know i know if we get drawn back into this it's going to be a problem you can go ahead and kink the whole maggot thing like uh-uh uh-uh i don't want to hear no nothing about no mad that the dude is is come on he's a he's good with words but he's good with words with dumb people he took people loves talking about the low iq low iq i don't think he realizes like no bullshit like his base the majority of them if you put me in the room with them and took an iq test i know mine i'm gonna i'm gonna hurt so a lot of feelings i'm gonna hurt a lot of feelings i'm not the smartest dude on the planet i'm not the smartest dude on the planet but if you want to talk about iq's and i don't i think iq's are stupid anyways the whole iq test thing doesn't mean anything i have a high iq doesn't mean shit doesn't mean nothing [00:56:49] Speaker 1: you know on one hand you're right um because there is a large majority i mean it's documented uh uh uh the majority of his base um they they have low education that that's a that's a didn't [00:57:07] Nicholas Irvin: he say something about that on one of his run of his rallies he said something about that um yeah he had to address it yeah he said i like dumb i like stupid people or something like they was like yeah i like something like that yeah yep i like dummy i like stupid people i like yeah i mean that's his [00:57:25] Speaker 1: base man that's his base that's his base you know there's a flip side to what you're saying because there are some you know something i'm not even going to give him that much credit and say there are some very smart people how about we just say average there are some people uh in politics that hold office that are registered republicans and they have all chosen over their moral values and republican values they chose career because he has the whole get down and lay down mentality y'all either are going to get down with maga and see things my way or you're not going to be in politics your career is going to be over yeah and many of them have folded they've they they have literally that's why i don't understand that party i don't understand the the quote-unquote republican because it's not the republican party it's the maga party no matter how you no matter what you ran on or or what you believed your entire life i mean from what i understand everything's christian and yeah yeah good values and this that and the third we're looking at a president who's been married divorced three different times come on hey you know he has kids come on by three four different women come on i mean like where does this begin and where does it end and all of them at some point has been the knee and said yo you know what i i actually want you know korean politics so i'm just gonna come on over to the dark side even even some of [00:59:07] Nicholas Irvin: the people who followed yeshua who followed christ they they took 30 pieces of silver at the end of the day wow wow wow i'll be out on sundays going to the store and i'm like hey you know what i'm not going to disrespect nobody's religion because i also believe in not only that being a rastafari but the 42 you know laws of mod whatever but i'm like i don't respect nobody's disrespect nobody else's religion but i think that i can tell who's a christian by how they act especially on sunday i'll leave it at that it just is a wild i don't know i don't know i was a christian too at one point i remember banging out lil what not no that's wait wait all the way i remember banging out to lil wayne going to church clapping in the front row coming back listening to young jeezy you know i mean it was what it was but hey even the ones who follow christ bro they they they took 30 pieces of silver anything for a dollar anything for a dollar i think these politicians that do follow them and stuff like that one it's not just money it's longevity they're going to be there long after trump gets out but it's staying in power [01:00:41] Speaker 1: why give that up it's been the need i i i sit in you know it's a couple of things i have said on this program again and again and again number one i have never seen i mean i'm not going to say anyone but there are very few people very and i and i invite the audience to really think about this i know right there are very few people who have ever willingly willingly gave up power yeah and you name one and that's why oh yeah i can um that's why i love muhammad ali so much oh he willingly walked away from from being champion of the world come on you that's why i respect him yeah i mean dave chapelle why i respect him so you're right you're right he willingly walked away from 50 million dollars yeah and said yo if i can't do this show the way i want to do it it's no it's no point in me doing it but there's only one person i can think of are people like that there's only one [01:01:39] Nicholas Irvin: i could think of until you spark my memory yeshua jesus christ bro like he's the only willingly gave up all the power in the world there you go there's one thing they all have in common but i'm gonna leave it at that everybody you mentioned and they all got one thing in common [01:02:01] Speaker 1: you you and in the point i'm trying to make because again it's something i say week over week you know self-preservation is the first law of the land and i watch people sell their souls literally sell their souls for their career and and it's the craziest thing like at what point are you unwilling to to go against everything that you say you believe because your career is now in jeopardy so some some money just costs too much and i i you know i've been on this earth for for a long time and one of the biggest lessons that sean prez has learned is never judge a man until you walk a mile in his shoes and we all say what we won't do um yo if i was in that situation i would have did x i would have did y well you know what you wasn't in that situation and you don't know but i would like to believe sean i would like to believe if my morals and everything that i ever preached and believed in were put on the line i would be willing to walk for how much money what's i mean i think i'm you know do you believe everybody has a price i don't have a price but who the hell knows till i'm there right right you know i would like to believe that i don't have a price me too you know i'm not willing to say until i've been there because that is just such a big lesson that sean has learned in this life um so i i try not to judge people and i try not to walk around with a holier than thou mentality even though i look at so many of these politicians that have sold their soul to to remain in this administration's good graces i look at them as cocksuckers and and and and and sellouts and everything else yeah going against the very things that you believed in for your own personal gain facts but you know it is what it is i'm with you on that i'm with you on that you know one of the things that um trump criticized about the jcpoa um and we touched on this briefly earlier was that uh when that deal was done obama administration gave them access to billions of dollars and if i have my my numbers correct i think it was in a neighborhood of 50 billion trump is you know he's doing the victory lap now and he's saying hey i'm not giving them any money i'm just unfreezing 300 billion so my question to you is what's the difference like is is there a difference between giving somebody you know some money or unfreezing the money hey as far as back as i can remember [01:05:13] Nicholas Irvin: we don't we went after people who used to fund terrorists one two i think that's the equivalent of me saying no i didn't kill that person the bullet did you know what i mean talk that talk nick that's what i i think we're on the same lines as that people who want to look at it as like that's a win no i didn't give them 300 billion i'm just done freezing it it's the same thing as me saying i didn't shoot that person or i didn't kill that person i didn't that bullet did i didn't do it i was far away i was from whatever distance away that bullet killed him i didn't do it it wasn't me the bullet took the light if you want to break it down i mean what's the difference [01:06:07] Speaker 1: nick that's so dope right there great great great analogy great comparison right there so i have to believe it think about it bro think about it wow great comparison right there i love it um you know to my understanding israel is not good with this deal yep yep yep but again we'll see we'll see once the final 14 point plan is released if israel's on board but from to from my understanding bb netanyahu's like nah i'm not i'm not slowing up on lebanon yeah yeah yeah yeah they are they are harboring um you know proxy groups like hezbollah uh you know these different palestinian group like we're not we're not with this how soon do you think me and you are going to be sitting here talking about israel blew the deal two weeks [01:07:19] Nicholas Irvin: i'll be i'll be leaning and say four i'll be leaning and say four but i'm looking at i think two weeks i think i think somewhere down the line israel's going going going to attack lebanon again which they already have iran has already promised or said they wanted to attack israel because of what they did they haven't done it yet as of today but if that keeps going the way it's going eventually within two weeks we'll be right back here talking about yeah they blew the deal right when the deal was announced i think right after the deal was announced and it had came became public is when israel like launched some missiles into lebanon like right after it and trump says something like they posted it up about like how like what the are you doing to bb says something along those like what are you doing or about to blow the deal don't let them blow the deal we're so close to a deal he did he did post it up he said you're effing crazy yeah so i mean obviously they have we have no control over what they do trump can talk tough all he wants but no matter what it keeps going back to the same thing i think in two weeks we'll be right back to what what are we doing what are we doing we're going to get brought right back into it because for them the mission's not done yet for us it may and like i said it's not an agreement it's not anything it's just the understanding like on there's nothing really yeah crazy about it at any point in time time it can be broken if anything if i was i ran hey let me buy some more time real quick with this 60-day pause whatever the pause may be i'd do the same thing too restockpile [01:09:20] Speaker 1: well in the immediate future um one good thing that comes out of the deal the uh the straighter home moves it reopens iran is guaranteeing safe passage from what i understand uh as we speak they just [01:09:38] Nicholas Irvin: was shooting but they were just shooting drones and like like yesterday and today they were just doing [01:09:43] Speaker 3: that listen i'm only going by okay i'm only going by again we'll be here in two weeks okay yeah yeah [01:09:56] Speaker 1: yeah i hope we go i hope it goes good but i mean i don't know no according to iranian officials they literally have uh boats out there right now uh-huh cleaning up them those uh mines come on now these [01:10:16] Nicholas Irvin: these are the same mines that they said they didn't know where they exactly that's what i'm exactly and now i mean who do we below what are we believing at this point we don't even know where they're at matter of fact you know what 300 billion dollars says i know exactly where the i put their minds at come on but 300 billion i know where everything is that bro no as we speak nick literally as you and [01:10:47] Speaker 3: i are sitting here having a conversation there are boats there there are ships rather in the strait of [01:10:54] Speaker 1: hormuz iranian ships that are cleaning up the mines that they dropped that they had no idea where they [01:11:02] Nicholas Irvin: dropped come on i believe it hey i believe nothing none of it none of what i hear in half of what i see [01:11:09] Speaker 1: you know you know this is the craziest thing but you know even as you were talking a few minutes ago about israel um and and they're not gonna stop dropping bombs on lebanon i mean we've watched for at least three decades benjamin netanyahu uh stress the fact that iran was weeks away from getting their hand on nuclear grade weapons my question is if this deal says iran will never have access to a nuclear grade weapon but iran still doesn't want to stop dropping bombs was that just the excuse on their part because it wasn't that supposed to be their number one reason for going to war and really trying to get 30 years worth for world leaders to say let's do away with iran now you supposedly you got your wish they'll never have their hand on a nuclear bomb but you still you know you're not cosigning this [01:12:34] Nicholas Irvin: exactly at all so that i mean so what is that that should that should tell us everything we need to know it's not a it wasn't about what they say this is about the expansion of a region that's it or a belief system are there people i don't think none of that had to do with anything nuclear and he's like we'll be being like we're being told this stuff we're being told iran had x y and z and x y we don't know we've been i've been through this timeline before i've been through that whole same storyline hey iraq's got this they get we got to go now or else we won't exist we're going to be yeah i've been here before i don't i believe i believe none of that but if that were the case then maybe they should hey stop bombing right but they don't as soon as something about peace is about to be introduced or announced the first thing israel does is bomb they start attacking again and it's like yeah pattern recognition at this point what's your objective what's the point what are we doing at this yeah what are we doing what is [01:13:47] Speaker 1: this really all about nah it's something that you know again you you you got to look at this and ask yourself what what was this really about even for them oh come on yeah because supposedly you you got exactly what you wanted but i love what you just said it's you know if you look at this for what it is it's about expansion of a region expansion of an ideology yeah you know because supposedly [01:14:18] Nicholas Irvin: this is what you've waited 30 years for and you allegedly got it and you still want to keep fighting [01:14:23] Speaker 1: yeah doesn't make any sense 100 percent before i let you up out of here how do you i mean all you prices are down yeah i mean you you you you're in san antonio i mean you you guys have to have seen a huge drop [01:14:45] Nicholas Irvin: yeah we've seen it um geez i want to say it was what 302 302 this morning i think the highest it got when we had talked it was like four something wasn't it yeah i mean it was above four yeah yeah so we have seen a huge drop in it so you know what i'll eat the ego shout out trump on that if that was the game plan bro hey if that's what if that's what one of the things you want to do get them get them prices back down back to pre-war but this is like memorial day i'm looking at this like memorial day weekend or weekends like that travel days federal holidays they'll drop that gas price a little bit so you can go travel and as soon as it's time to go back to work they pump them prices right back up i don't hope it's not like that but i hope it's not short-lived i do hope it's not short-lived let's keep them prices down and the easy easiest way as we can see by doing that it's keeping our noses to ourselves staying we're staying home we try and fund the whole world at this point and our front house our our front yard is smoking smoldering on fire we're trying to water everybody else's lawn take care of their yard but ours is shit it's on fire so i you know i hope it's not that but let's keep it that way i do like the prices dropping let's go back to the the pre you know covid era [01:16:23] Speaker 1: three yeah three yeah i hope so i hope so i mean how how do you think this deal is going to affect the the global economy with that straight be an open oh yeah back up greatly like it'd be a good deal but [01:16:37] Nicholas Irvin: to replenish our already depleted stockpiles might take some time few weeks few months to replenish that but it is going to be a game changer as far as go back to that this whole pre-war era by having it straight open i know china's gonna love it [01:16:59] Speaker 1: yeah i mean uh i don't think it's just china i think it's i mean at this point oh no no no it's [01:17:06] Nicholas Irvin: yeah it's the whole world yeah [01:17:09] Speaker 1: it's the whole world i i would love to believe that um this is gonna work out for the best forgive me for being skeptical on both ends number one i i don't trust any i mean you know throughout my lifetime iran has lied again i mean that's probably why trump doesn't get along with them because they're the same freaking people like you know you you you you can believe almost nothing that comes out of these people's mouths um so i don't trust iran whatsoever but they have 300 billion reasons to keep the peace um so hopefully this thing works out and hopefully i can say i was wrong because i saw this going [01:18:05] Nicholas Irvin: at the bare minimum to the end of the year me to a bare minimum i agree bro i agree i agree but like i said this is just a memorandum of understanding we haven't we don't have no official deal yet we don't know who's gonna bomb who in the intermedium or ever the interim but let's hope for the best but i i'm i'm i'm very skeptical just i have i have 38 39 reasons to be skeptical why i should be skeptical so i don't i don't i don't know we'll see though in two weeks we'll find out when i'm back here in two weeks either i'm gonna say you know what hey i would wait rightfully i was wrong i was a hundred percent wrong i'm hoping i can say that and not the other way around you know like nope deals [01:18:58] Speaker 1: off back at it again well you know for the for the sake of this country i hope you and me both were wrong honey yeah you know real talking and to echo what you said earlier you know here's the deal i don't care how we get out of there right right we we we don't have no business being there you know we we we don't look good in the world's eye but we'll just take that out but if this gets us out of there if it gets that straight open if it gets prices down if it gets affordability somewhat manageable once again gas prices i mean gas prices it's ridiculous god forbid you drive a truck god forbid you drive something that requires 93 unleaded i do and there you go so you you hurt and every time you go to that freaking you understand it's painful [01:20:10] Nicholas Irvin: man yeah yeah it'd be yeah it'd be like man i'm finna go walk you know i'm about to walk [01:20:20] Speaker 1: but if it gets us there i'm all for it um you know god bless america and that's that but um you know nick as always i i love our conversations can't wait for us to really regroup and see how this thing turns out for real we'll have more concrete information in the next couple of weeks so we'll be able to speak a little more factually about that deal and um up until then like i always tell you man i love you i i know i speak on behalf of of the vlad audience they love you and um can't wait to see you again next time hey i appreciate you brother thank you you be good brother till next time be good and then um enjoy this 250th right 250 years of freedom