New Questions About Timeline of Nancy Guthrie Disappearance Based on Savannah Guthrie's Comments

[0:00] There have been a lot of good questions asked about Savannah's interview yesterday, [0:05] many by just armchair detectives or, you know, regular civilians, Maureen, who have been [0:11] covering this case. And I saw one woman on my X feed today asking a really good question about [0:16] this soundbite. Let me play it and then we'll talk about it. This is Savannah talking about [0:21] the moments she found out from Annie that Nancy was missing. [0:25] And my sister called me and I said, is everything okay? And she said, no. She said, [0:34] mom's missing. And I said, what are you talking about? She said, she's gone. And we, she was in [0:46] a panic. I was in a panic. I'm like, call 911. She's like, I did. We've called them. They're [0:53] here. And we thought that she must've had like some kind of medical episode in the night and [1:01] that. [1:01] Somehow, you know, the paramedics had come, uh, because the back doors were propped open, [1:08] you know, and that didn't make any sense. We thought maybe they came and there was a stretcher [1:14] and they took her out the back, but her phone was there and her purse was there and all her things. [1:22] And it just didn't make any sense. So, you know, Annie and Tommy had already called all the [1:28] hospitals, but then I'm like, I'm going to call the hospital. So then [1:32] I started calling the hospital and they took her out the back. And I said, why are they here? [1:33] calling the hospitals and, and the police were there and talking to her at the same time. And [1:37] it was just chaos and disbelief. Okay. And the longer version of the clip, Savannah sets up that [1:46] story by saying her husband had been away on a guy's weekend that, that weekend, and he had just [1:53] come home and that she had been at Carson Daly's house with her kids all day. And she had just [1:58] gotten home and that they were getting ready. It was the evening. And then the sister called, [2:05] well, we know from the authorities that 9-1-1 was called just after noon that morning, right? Nancy, [2:13] they revised the timeline, but they said at 1157, they realized Nancy wasn't there. They called 9-1-1 [2:18] and that 9-1-1 got there. The authorities got there just after noon. So that would have been [2:22] just after two, uh, just after 3 PM East coast time. So hours, hours went by from the sound of [2:29] it before Anne, Annie Guthrie called Savannah. And I would give this woman online credit, but I [2:36] didn't actually. [2:36] See her name, but she was saying who you only have one other sister and she's got Annie Guthrie [2:42] has a brother Cameron and she's got a sister Savannah and the sister happened to have major [2:47] resources. But the point is, you know, your mother's potentially missing. You've now been [2:53] to the house. There's blood, there's blood throughout the house. The door's propped open. [2:59] Nancy's missing. The ring camera's been, it's gone. The nest camera's gone. You wait hours, [3:06] two or three hours to call. [3:09] Your sister to say, like, have you heard from mom? And by the way, you do all the hospital calls too, [3:19] before you loop in the sister. Like I could see if your sister's missing, you do all that legwork [3:29] yourself before you loop in your mom, whom you don't want to panic. But your sister is your [3:36] sister in arms. Like your siblings, they're in it with you as, as a sibling. You're like, this is [3:42] our mom. [3:43] What is mother's fault? [3:44] And will your sister forgive you or not for being a mother and then using her? [3:47] When she does this in her hands? [3:48] I think I know you're gonna take some with Mike manages. [3:52] You know, I would. [3:53] dating over 6 months with covered. [3:55] So. [3:56] Like it's all hands on deck. And also. [3:58] Wouldn't you have just called her to say, have you [4:01] Like it is very strange, the more I think about it. [4:07] The Annie Guthrie did not call Savannah Guthrie for hours. [4:10] Apparently. [4:11] And after she knew that something had gone very very wrong with the mother. [4:13] I think that's just the. [4:14] She was probably just. [4:15] You know, I mean, she's gonna say, and he's gonna say that she was trying to figure it out and that she and Tumasa were. But to your point. [4:15] You know, I would absolutely believe her, but. [4:16] one of my first phone calls would be like to one of my sisters, Hey, get on the phone and call [4:21] these three hospitals. I'll have Eileen call the other three hospitals and, you know, or divvy up [4:26] these hospital nearby hospitals between the two of you. I'm here. I'm doing a ground search. I'm [4:31] trying to find mom in the house. I have no idea why the door is propped open. There's blood in [4:35] the front entryway. Um, but I could see how the, the, the only thing that really stands out to me [4:41] is that door being propped open, not the only thing, but the thing that really blows my mind [4:46] is that door being propped open because she apparently left through the front door. And [4:52] I mean, was the initial plan to pull the car around back and then they had to abort mission [4:58] and, and the, the driver came up on the circle driveway instead. And then they went out the [5:03] front door. I don't know. But, um, with them removing the camera, that makes me believe that [5:09] part of the plan was to remove Nancy via the front door. [5:13] And perhaps if it was a, um, kidnapping to begin with, that was the plan. They wouldn't want the [5:20] family to see what condition she was in when they pulled her out of that house. [5:26] Hmm. Well, we, we speculated yesterday, James was here about whether maybe, maybe they did [5:35] take her out of the house. Maybe they threw her over the shoulder and walked out of the front [5:37] of the house. And one of the questions I have is does Savannah know that her mother was wearing [5:43] the pajamas? She said that yesterday without her shoes in her pajamas, [5:47] because she's seen maybe additional images from the nest camera that the rest of us haven't seen, [5:55] or is it more likely that she's going off of what was in that first ransom note that she's taking [6:01] so seriously, James, which you heard our Harvey Levin say describes what Nancy was wearing. [6:08] And maybe she's just going by that, that she, maybe the note says we took her in her pajamas [6:14] without her shoes. Yeah. And it's interesting. I didn't, [6:17] I didn't catch, but what she led with was that when she talked, when Savannah, what she led with [6:23] was when she talked to her sister, that her sister said, something's odd mom's missing. [6:28] And notice she said the door was propped open. Well, what about the blood? If you and I were [6:34] brother and sister, Megan, I, and I called you and I said, Hey, there's blood all over mom's porch. [6:39] I'd lead with that. I wouldn't lead with door propped open, right? I'd lead with blood. I'd [6:45] lead with a camera knocked off the front. [6:48] That was not said. And I try not to ever really get involved in family dynamics and why, you know, [6:56] a call was made or not made. You know, we just don't know enough. I don't know enough about that [7:02] family dynamic, but if, if they're taking care of, meaning if, if Savannah's sister and her [7:07] brother-in-law are taking care of the mother and they're there frequently, there might be a lot of [7:11] things going on that they don't ever call Savannah about. I just, again, I don't know the family well [7:17] enough. I do know families. [7:18] And sometimes that does happen. So I don't find the three hours terribly, you know, strange, [7:24] but I do have a problem with the not knowing about, so did she not know about the blood? [7:28] Why not lead with that? It makes me feel like they didn't know. [7:33] It's possible she's, it's possible she's been told, you know, not to discuss evidence like [7:38] at the crime scene. You know, maybe she thinks the blood is not to be discussed, even though [7:43] we've all seen it. You know, I mean, it's not, it's not a secret thanks to the investigators. [7:47] I feel like they didn't know. [7:48] I feel like, you know, the law enforcement, they remember yesterday we talked about law [7:52] enforcement trying to talk. It sounds like that they're trying to tell the family it's not a big [7:55] deal. People go missing all the time. And the family keeps saying, no, no, you don't understand. [8:00] She can't just walk away. She has this hard thing. No mention. I think maybe they started [8:06] searching later and then, you know, found this blood and then called crime scene unit and all [8:11] those things. I think that took a while because if they had known that in the beginning, then [8:16] certainly the prop door is a concern. [8:18] But blood's more concerning. And I think I lead with that one. [8:23] I would, too. But when you are she. Yeah, go ahead. [8:26] With regard to what she was wearing, it could be a simple case, Megan, of, you know, one of the [8:33] granddaughters bought her a Hello Kitty sleep shirt or something. And she always wore either [8:37] that or this other thing. And they all know it. And, you know, or something very anecdotal like [8:43] that. And they noticed that one of them was missing the sleep shirt. She always wears is [8:47] missing something distinctive, you know. [8:50] That's what I thought of when I when I heard that. [8:53] I mean, I'll tell you something. I know exactly what my mom sleeps in. I know exactly what it is. [8:59] And if somebody ever took her while wearing it, they'd be able to convince me in a heartbeat that [9:03] they had her. You know, it's like distinctive. I know every option she has and what she does. [9:09] So if if that's the case here, then maybe there was something that really convinced them this [9:14] person in the first note is the person. But I I have my doubts because we have seen that the Apple [9:21] Watch on Nancy. [9:22] I don't know if they mentioned the cane, but they might have known that she was not that mobile from that information. We've seen, as we discussed now, the inside of Nancy's bedroom in that videotape that we found from 2013. I don't know whether this person ever saw that. But if you're going to do it, if you were doing a planned kidnapping on Nancy, you might take a deep dive into whatever segments you could find where they showed the inside of Nancy's home, which they did on the Today Show. [9:51] So it's very popular. [9:52] But on top of that, we had a bunch of people who are like, hey, we need to get rid of Nancy, you know, and then they showed up with the [10:09] The Apple Watch on Nancy so it's very possible this person could write a convincing note that they had Nancy. [10:13] Even if they did. I as we've discussed before I don't understand a kidnapper who's like check the floodlight as proof that I have Nancy, like it. Maureen that just doesn't like the [10:16] Even if they did. I as we've discussed before I don't understand a kidnapper who's like check the floodlight as proof that I have Nancy, like it. Maureen that just doesn't like the [10:21] floodlight. [10:22] floodlight. [10:22] it. It had to be something specific. Like I ripped her Apple watch off. I broke the buckle [10:29] to the, where she hooked it on. I threw it. He said it was the location. I threw it. [10:34] I threw it under her nightstand or under the dresser, or I threw it into the bathroom, [10:41] something like that. So it's got a couple of elements that just no one else knew about [10:46] unless they were there. That's exactly right. Go ahead, James. Yeah, that's exactly right. And [10:50] yeah, I just, again, she's very emotional and she's hanging on to any thread at all. And so [10:58] for her to believe that, you know, the note was for real, I completely understand how that could [11:03] happen due to, you know, the emotional nature of it. And not to say that her brother's not [11:08] emotional, but I'd love to hear from him. Did he think, or did this sister, the other sister believe [11:13] that, you know, this was real? I'd like to hear from them. And again, I could see her believing [11:20] that. [11:21] Because of the, you know, they are, these victims are hanging on to any [11:25] shred of hope that, you know, it's going to be a good outcome. [11:28] I mean, I do think it's interesting that the brother, this fighter pilot, [11:35] his mind immediately went to, she was kidnapped for ransom. Like Savannah told us that yesterday [11:41] without even, and he didn't get there until a couple of days in James. So that was him [11:46] just being, just having the crime scene described to him by phone. He immediately went to someone [11:52] stole her. [11:53] And he was trying to get her to extort money from us because knowing Savannah had means. [11:56] Exactly. You know, and that's kind of what, again, what I was talking about yesterday, [12:00] you know, he was intuitively, he was putting it together. And, and, you know, if you've ever been [12:06] through a traumatic situation, you know, that's exactly what happens. I was actually stalked one [12:12] time and, and the cops were asking me, you know, who do you think it is? And I immediately put it [12:17] together and, you know, I had no train. This was, I was very young. 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