About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of Mike Rogers on Trump calling Abdul El-Sayed a terrorist: ‘I've never called him a terrorist’ from NBC News, published October 25, 2026. The transcript contains 1,139 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"Let me ask you about one of the big issues that you've raised in this campaign, which is Abdul al-Sayed, your challenger's background. President Trump posted overnight calling Abdul al-Sayed a Muslim Brotherhood jihadist who hates Jews and blacks and Americans. As you know, there's no evidence to..."
[0:00] Let me ask you about one of the big issues that you've raised in this campaign, which is Abdul
[0:05] al-Sayed, your challenger's background. President Trump posted overnight calling Abdul al-Sayed
[0:12] a Muslim Brotherhood jihadist who hates Jews and blacks and Americans. As you know, there's no
[0:19] evidence to support any of those claims. Do you agree with the president, Congressman? Yes or no?
[0:25] Boy, I don't understand the national press. They have to work and twist themselves in knots
[0:33] not to understand Abdul's relationship with the thinking of the Muslim Brotherhood. When you write
[0:41] a letter in supporting of Morrissey in 2012 and 2013 saying you should purge the police and purge
[0:50] the media, and by the way, he will not answer this question. Look at the New York Times who said he
[0:55] just won't answer this question. There's a reason. He has getting money from groups that support the
[1:00] Muslim Brotherhood, money from groups that support Hamas and Hezbollah. That's a thinking issue. I wore
[1:07] the uniform of the United States, Kristen, so that people could vote any way that they want to in
[1:12] this country. It's not how you pray. It's how you think. And that has a consequence.
[1:18] Okay. Congressman, he has denied and denounced the Muslim Brotherhood and denied any ties to them.
[1:25] No, he has not. He dismissed the question. Hold on. What you're talking about. No, he did not, Kristen.
[1:29] He did in an interview with me. I don't know why you give this guy a pass. He has not. He won't answer the
[1:34] New York Times. He won't answer a local newspaper. No, I just don't buy that. Let's talk about the 2012
[1:40] letter. You're giving him a pass on something he should be held accountable for. Okay, let's talk about that
[1:43] 2012 letter. I want to give folks some context. I get it. I get it. Listen, I get you guys want to
[1:49] defend this guy. No, listen. I think it's unbelievable that you would not hold him
[1:53] accountable for his beliefs and what he thinks America ought to look like. Let me just give some
[2:00] context to the 2012 letter that you're talking about. Egyptians were rising up against a brutal
[2:04] dictatorship. Al-Sayed, as you said, he joined that letter, which supported the protesters against
[2:10] Egypt's dictator, not the Muslim Brotherhood as a group. But this is what you said, Congressman,
[2:15] in 2012. I want to put up what you said at the time. Oh, my gosh. Do I think there are moderate
[2:21] Muslim Brotherhood individuals we are going to have to reach out to and talk to? Yes. But we are going
[2:29] to have to watch it carefully. Do you acknowledge that at the time in 2012, you were willing to work
[2:36] with some moderate members, as you said, of the Muslim Brotherhood? That is so much out of
[2:41] I wish you would have done this for Abdul Al-Sayed. That would have been a great interview. But what
[2:45] you're doing now is trying to twist this thing to defend your position for letting him lie to you.
[2:50] I don't have a position. Congressman, respectfully, I don't have a position.
[2:54] And here, let me tell you what that was about. I'm happy to talk to you about what that was about.
[2:58] So what happened was we had relationships where Israel and Egypt had relationships in their
[3:03] intelligence services that the Muslim Brotherhood was trying to undo. And what that would have meant
[3:09] is more violence in the region. So as chairman of the Intelligence Committee, I said, we're going to
[3:13] have to find a way to try to not sever that relationship, which they did, by the way. And so
[3:20] listen, there are when you talk about the Muslim Brotherhood as an ideology, it's a political group.
[3:26] Five Muslim countries have banned the Muslim Brotherhood because they're so extreme.
[3:30] And Abdul Al-Sayed not only has family relations, which he lied about, he not only had his own
[3:38] letter that he said supporting them, including purging the press. I don't know about you,
[3:43] but you should probably be concerned about that. And secondly, you have this idea that the Muslim
[3:50] Brotherhood, wait a minute, wait a minute, I got it. You're trying to defend Abdul, and I understand that.
[3:54] The other part of that is the Muslim Brotherhood, only one candidate in the country did they support
[4:01] a primary win. One, Abdul Al-Sayed. The money that he gets ought to be a factor in this. So you take
[4:08] his way he thinks, the way he supported them. And by the way, the Muslim Brotherhood immediately
[4:14] started making women as second class citizens. I think that's an issue. I mean, that's just not
[4:20] consistent with American value. And so if you're going to elect somebody to go to the United States
[4:25] Senate who wants to be on the Foreign Affairs Committee, we probably should know this. And as
[4:30] a former FBI guy, I can tell you this, Kristen, when you lie about who you are, he said he was a
[4:36] physician. He's not. When he said he's a dual citizen of Egypt, we don't think that he is.
[4:41] When you say that you're an immigrant from North Africa, those are disqualifying for you because
[4:47] you've lied about who you are. Congressman, I'm asking you about your words versus coming back
[4:52] and pushing back. I asked Abdul Al-Sayed plenty of tough questions. And by the way, moderate Muslims
[4:56] across Michigan have reached out to our campaign and are as concerned as our Chaldean friends, as our
[5:03] Jewish American friends. Let me ask you about your words and the words of President Trump. President
[5:09] Trump says your opponent is a violent terrorist, violent. Again, there's just no proof of that.
[5:15] And he has denounced. He was asked directly if he denounces the Muslim Brotherhood. He has. Do you
[5:20] agree with calling him a violent terrorist? That's not true. Hold on. Do you agree with calling him a
[5:25] violent terrorist? You know what he did? He said, the guy said, are you going to answer the question?
[5:28] Hold on. Will you disavow? And he said, yeah, absolutely. I'll answer the question. He never answers
[5:33] the question. Is that up to your standard? No, I don't. I've never called him a terrorist. I've never
[5:38] called him a terrorist. This election is about me versus Abdul. I mean, he's a Democrat Socialist
[5:44] of America aligned candidate who has these pretty radical support groups that don't like America.
[5:51] I think those are issues people ought to decide their election on. And by the way, we've lived
[5:56] under what their policies are. And we've got higher prices and higher taxes here in Michigan
[6:01] under the Democrat control. Congressman.
[6:02] And what they're talking about doing is making that worse here.