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"regarding the Convention on Nuclear Safety and the protocol to amend the Vienna Convention on Civil Liability for Nuclear Damage. Following that, we will proceed with our discussion on the Convention on Supplementary Compensation for Nuclear Damage, as well as the Joint Convention on the Safety of..."
[0:00] regarding the Convention on Nuclear Safety and the protocol to amend the Vienna Convention
[0:06] on Civil Liability for Nuclear Damage. Following that, we will proceed with our discussion on the
[0:12] Convention on Supplementary Compensation for Nuclear Damage, as well as the Joint Convention
[0:18] on the Safety of Spent Fuel Management and on the Safety of Radioactive Waste Management.
[0:25] Let us now take up these nuclear conventions for our consideration. Thank you very much.
[0:31] We now proceed with the hearing. Before we begin, I wish to remind the Department of Foreign Affairs
[0:37] to submit the requested data regarding the protocol to amend the Vienna Convention on Civil Liability
[0:44] for Nuclear Damage, specifically the matrix detailing the amendments and their corresponding justifications.
[0:52] Furthermore, the Department of Science and Technology previously committed to submitting the draft
[0:57] Implementing Rules and Regulation of the Philippine National Nuclear Energy Safety Act.
[1:03] Will you be able to do that, DOST, to submit to this committee?
[1:12] In behalf of the Department of Science and Technology, we did submit already through the central office,
[1:20] the draft IRR, through the DOST central office. So we will just follow up on it, sir,
[1:27] because we have already sent it like two weeks ago.
[1:31] Please do so, Director Samson. All right.
[1:35] To date, the committee has yet to receive this document. Thank you for letting us know.
[1:41] I urge the concerned agencies to expedite these submissions as these materials are vital for us
[1:46] to effectively defend these nuclear safety and liability instruments before the plenary.
[1:53] With that, we now open the floor.
[1:55] Or before that, we'd like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Wynne Gatchalian.
[2:01] Do you have any opening statement, Senwil?
[2:06] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[2:08] And thank you, Mr. Chairman, for putting on schedule the four conventions that we urgently need
[2:16] before we can proceed with our nuclear power agenda.
[2:22] These conventions are meant to make us on the same footing with other global countries
[2:30] that are now producing nuclear power.
[2:33] So this is a sign of confidence for the Philippines.
[2:36] And this is also a way to show that we are adhering to very strict standards
[2:42] in terms of safety, waste disposal, and other issues relating to nuclear power.
[2:48] So maraming salamat, Mr. Chairman.
[2:50] Thank you, Senwil.
[2:54] Well, just a recap.
[2:57] We will be discussing today the Convention of Supplementary Compensation for Nuclear Damage
[3:06] and the Joint Convention on the Safety of Spent Fuel Management.
[3:11] I would like to address my question now to the National Disaster Risk Redaction Management Council
[3:15] concerning the Convention on Nuclear Safety.
[3:20] Anybody from NDRRMC?
[3:21] There you go.
[3:25] I can barely see your name, sir.
[3:28] Could you please identify yourself?
[3:31] My name is Attorney Rafael Ricalde, sir.
[3:34] I'm the legal and legislative officer of the Office of Civil Defense.
[3:37] All right.
[3:39] Then my question will be,
[3:40] What are the formal coordination mechanisms that are established by the NDRRMC?
[3:44] Do you have the same music, wherein you have the same music, wherein you have the same understanding?
[3:59] Yes, sir.
[4:01] So currently, sir, the NDRRMC is already adopting the National Disaster Response Plan, or the NDRP, for the Chemical, Biological, Radioactive, and Nuclear, or the CBRN Hazards.
[4:16] And we are in close coordination with the PNRI for the formulation of the Radiological Emergency Preparedness and Response Plan, or the RAD plan, sir.
[4:27] It was mentioned last hearing by the PNRI that the Nuclear Energy Program Interagency Committee has already developed the National Radiological Nuclear Emergency Preparedness and Response Plan, and that it was already submitted to your office.
[4:42] Do you confirm the submission?
[4:46] Yes, sir. We confirm the submission.
[4:48] Okay. And then, what are the trainings and preparations conducted by the NDRRMC in accordance to the said plan?
[4:57] Paano ba natin inihahanda ang ating mga kababayan sa mga sakunang dala ng nuclear incidents?
[5:01] Meron na po ba tayong ikang mga protocols?
[5:06] Meron na po ba tayong manual on what to do para pag sa ganun ay mapag-aralan na po ng mga ahensya, ng mga kababayan po natin on things to do just in case nagkaroon po ng problema?
[5:23] Sir, currently, we're still formulating the trainings for the implementation of the Office of Civil Defense, sir, through our civil defense training service, sir.
[5:34] Okay. Gaano po kaya katagal? Can you give us a time frame, sir?
[5:42] Hopefully, sir, we can have the plans within this year, sir, and implementation for 2027, sir.
[5:49] Realistic po ba yan yung inyong plans at saka implementation for 2027?
[5:53] And I believe, pag ganito po, kailangan po natin ang mga equipment, kailangan po natin ang hindi lang po training, hindi lang po ikang...
[6:01] This is different from earthquake drills that we do, di po ba?
[6:06] This is different, very different from...
[6:08] Kasi po, doon eh, di po natin kailangan na gamit, kailangan na natin mag-cover, dock, di po ba?
[6:14] But this is nuclear, so we will need equipment for this, attorney, to ikang, for the safety of our people.
[6:25] Ang tanong po diyan, who will purchase?
[6:28] Saan po tayo kukuha ng mga equipments nito?
[6:31] Yung mga nuclear, ikang, outfits to prevent parang para hindi po makontaminate, mahawa yung ating mga kababayan.
[6:45] Napag-usapan na po ba ito?
[6:47] Not yet, sir. We're currently formulating pa lang po the plan for the training session, sir.
[6:53] But as for the equipment, sir, we completely agree, sir, that this needs to be thought out for release,
[6:58] sir, especially for the purchase of the equipments for the detection of radiation for Geiger counters,
[7:06] also for the radiation containment equipment, sir.
[7:10] All right. Senwin, do you have any questions?
[7:13] Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[7:16] Mr. Chairman, I just have basic questions lang, and let me direct this to maybe DOE,
[7:24] because this concerns nuclear energy.
[7:27] And just basic questions, Mr. Chairman.
[7:33] Meron tayong apat na international treaties and conventions na tinag-uusapan ngayon,
[7:41] and we want this approved sa Department.
[7:46] Kay Director Aquino.
[7:49] Itong mga conventions and treaties, what is the significance of this to the implementation or to the rollout of our nuclear power agenda?
[8:04] Anong importance nito?
[8:08] Thank you, Mr. Yoy Chair.
[8:10] As we've been discussing in the previous hearings and even before the public,
[8:15] part of the obligations of the Philippines, if we are an embarking country for a nuclear power program,
[8:23] is to ratify all relevant conventions and treaties in relation to the peaceful civilian uses of nuclear energy.
[8:31] As outlined in the Philippine nuclear energy plan, our target is to be able to have a clear licensing framework,
[8:40] which thankfully our Congress and Senate has already passed with Philatom.
[8:44] But part of the requirements as we engage private sector in building up the capacities,
[8:51] particularly for the entry of a nuclear power plant,
[8:55] they will be looking at these four key conventions that is under consideration
[8:59] to provide for certainty, among others, on the extent of liability
[9:04] in our compliance with the safety, safeguard, security requirements outlined in the IAEA.
[9:10] Our colleagues earlier in the previous hearing already extolled the nature of these conventions.
[9:16] They provided updates on why this is essential.
[9:19] And with the issuance of the executive order indicating that the Philippines adopt the national position
[9:26] for nuclear for power generation,
[9:28] the DOE through the Nuclear Energy Program Interagency Committee
[9:32] has worked as a whole of government to secure the concurrence
[9:36] and hence the endorsement for the urgent consideration of the Senate on these four conventions, Mr. Chair,
[9:42] to support the possible entry of nuclear in our power generation mix.
[9:47] Mr. Kroon, put it in layman,
[9:49] bakit hindi natin kayang gawin yung nuclear energy agenda natin even without the conventions?
[9:55] What are the benefits as well as what are we assuring the public
[10:07] by joining and approving all of these conventions?
[10:12] Because these conventions will bind us.
[10:14] Binding ito eh.
[10:15] So in other words, tinatali na natin yung kamay natin, di ba?
[10:19] But what is the benefit?
[10:20] What are the concrete benefits?
[10:22] Number one, related to our nuclear agenda,
[10:25] and then number two, to the public.
[10:26] Okay, I'll answer first on very specific energy consideration.
[10:32] I think in previous hearings, not necessarily before this committee,
[10:36] in both the House and the Senate,
[10:38] the discussion has been when private sector is asked,
[10:41] are they ready to come in and make an investment for power generation using nuclear?
[10:47] And these are the main considerations that they're citing.
[10:50] As we've been interacting with our power sector and private sector players,
[10:54] this is a non-negotiable item for them because this assures them of the regulatory certainty
[11:00] and the absolute compliance with the requirements of the International Atomic Energy Agency.
[11:06] So on the part of the energy sector, it's a non-negotiable for our investors to have these conventions ratified.
[11:14] On the part of the public, in the same vein, what we've been echoing and as discussed in the Nuclear Energy Programme Interagency Committee,
[11:23] or NEPIAC, it provides us with an alternative relief.
[11:27] Part of what's being discussed here is the compensation for any incident.
[11:32] In the previous setting, it was asked if there are only limited parties already signatory,
[11:37] what's the value of us joining?
[11:40] The value of the Philippines joining is that we are part of a liability framework
[11:46] that clearly establishes the extent by which, and if, nakonood, an incident happens,
[11:53] the liability of the parties concerned.
[11:55] And then that also goes back to the certainty.
[11:58] So our public, yung mga kababayan po natin,
[12:01] ma-assure sila kung bahagi po tayo at signatory tayo nito,
[12:04] na kung matapos na po at ma-exhaust na yun sa ating domestic requirements,
[12:08] meron po silang tatakbuhan to the extent po nung ma-i-ratify natin
[12:12] at ma-i-confirma natin na convention.
[12:15] At yun rin po yung extent at certainty dun sa ating mga private investors
[12:20] nung kanilang liability.
[12:22] Incidentally po, just to update the committee,
[12:24] and I think later on, Congressman Kowanko will provide the details on this,
[12:29] there are also pending measures before the House of Representatives
[12:34] on updating particularly on the liability component.
[12:38] This will also be of great assistance to the private sector
[12:41] as well as our public on the certainty that in the remote instance
[12:45] that there is an incident regarding the nuclear facilities,
[12:49] they will be properly compensated and all of the liabilities are settled po, Mr. Chair.
[12:54] Sir, itong, can you cite a specific example dito sa convention on nuclear safety?
[13:01] I think this is a very important convention.
[13:03] All of those are, all of the four are important, no?
[13:06] Kasi iba, civil liability, compensation,
[13:10] of course, yung spent fuel management, lahat yan, importante.
[13:13] But I think the public will understand simply the safety aspect, di ba?
[13:18] So, what in the convention will enhance the safety procedures
[13:29] or safety regulations of our own local nuclear energy regulation?
[13:37] Kasi these are, itong convention, I read the convention,
[13:41] marami siyang mga features, di ba?
[13:43] But can you cite one or two examples that will tell the public that
[13:47] Pag pumasok tayo dito sa convention, it's binding,
[13:50] but it will also enhance or improve our regulation in terms of nuclear safety?
[13:59] Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[14:00] If you recall, when you passed Republic Act 12305,
[14:05] which is the Philippine National Nuclear, Philatom po,
[14:09] it established the independent nuclear regulatory body with Philatom.
[14:13] Ang pinaka-practical pong ginagawa ng ratification po natin,
[14:17] itong CNS, is number one,
[14:19] maliwanag rin pong nire-reiterate na yung atin pong magiging Philatom ay independent.
[14:25] Na ang focus niya lang po, kagaya ng nakalagay sa Philatom,
[14:28] ay hindi siya mababahira ng politika or commercial influence.
[14:32] So, the focus will be primarily on the safety, security, and safeguard.
[14:37] It also binds us to adhere to very strict, multi-stage licensing processes.
[14:42] So, ibig pong sabihin nito at every step of the way,
[14:46] from the selection of the site, before construction, during operation,
[14:51] and even up to decommissioning,
[14:53] susunod po tayo, hindi lang po dun sa inisyo ng Philatom,
[14:56] maging po dito sa mga guidance pong ilalabas ng IAEA.
[15:00] Pangatlo po, nakakaroon rin po tayo ng maliwanag na depensa
[15:04] pagdating naman dun sa safety and design,
[15:06] which is a non-negotiable item for our countrymen.
[15:09] Na mayroon pong layers of protection that is built in,
[15:12] and it's counter-checked, that there are necessary redundancies in place,
[15:16] again, highlighting the need for safety and security.
[15:20] And because we are part of it in the international community,
[15:23] the continuous monitoring, for example, for radiation,
[15:26] the public, the environment, is built in with our ratification as well.
[15:31] This is just some of the things, Mr. Chair,
[15:34] that the public or yung ating pong mga kababayan ay makakasigurado
[15:38] na mapapanindigan po at madadagdagan kung malalagdaan po natin
[15:42] or iraratify nyo po yung ating CNS.
[15:45] Mr. Sen Nguyen, before you continue,
[15:49] I would like to acknowledge the presence of Congressman Marco Juanco.
[15:53] Thank you.
[15:54] Sen Nguyen, go ahead.
[15:55] Are there countries or jurisdictions that went ahead with their nuclear energy agenda
[16:03] without ratifying these conventions?
[16:07] Mr. Chair, I think our colleagues from the Department of Foreign Affairs
[16:10] can provide the updated listing of the countries
[16:14] specifically for the status for the CNS, if you may.
[16:19] Thank you.
[16:20] Based on your research, meron bang mga ganun na bansa?
[16:23] Maybe while the DFA is looking for their notes,
[16:37] Director Patrick, after ratifying all of these conventions and treaties,
[16:42] what are the next steps?
[16:43] Because these are documents,
[16:45] but you have to operationalize it locally,
[16:48] through regulation, legislation, or even mga executive action.
[16:54] So what are the next steps?
[16:56] Can you give us, let's say, for this convention of nuclear safety,
[17:00] ano yung mga next steps?
[17:01] The practical, thank you, Mr. Chair.
[17:03] The practical next steps would be physically through our Department of Foreign Affairs
[17:08] and our posts in Vienna is to deposit the actual concurrence on the ratification.
[17:15] That's first and foremost what's going to happen.
[17:17] But on the practical sense po, Mr. Chair,
[17:20] the ONU is of course, the NEPIAC or the Nuclear Energy Program Interagency Committee
[17:25] as that whole of government framework will be supporting,
[17:28] actively supporting Philatom in its quest to operationalize all of these items.
[17:35] A lot of the confidence building and the actual implementation
[17:40] of this particular convention will rest with the Philatom, Mr. Chair.
[17:47] And that's why, rest assured, on the part of the NEPIAC, as the DOE is chair,
[17:55] we can assure you that the entire organization of NEPIAC will be helping
[18:00] and assisting our regulator to frame all of the necessary regulations needed
[18:07] and to extend the support needed by Philatom in its enforcement.
[18:12] So we can assure you that through the NEPIAC framework,
[18:16] there will be interagency coordination or whole of government approach
[18:19] and bringing in our stakeholders so that any upcoming issuances
[18:23] would have been thoroughly consulted and all of the agencies involved,
[18:27] apart from Philatom, will be ready to assist and have it implemented po.
[18:32] So all of these four conventions will be implemented by Philatom?
[18:37] Our understanding, Mr. Chair, is that primarily it will be Philatom who will be...
[18:41] As a regulator.
[18:42] Wala nang DOE assistance nilang, pati yung implementation.
[18:47] Yes, Mr. Chair.
[18:48] Philatom na siya.
[18:48] Will there be subsequent pieces of legislation to support these conventions?
[18:57] Mr. Chair, I think, as I mentioned earlier, there's a pending measure,
[19:01] particularly on the liability that is being worked on in the lower chamber.
[19:06] That's an item that I think we can speak to the Honorable Kong Kuwangko on the matter po.
[19:14] May I comment, Senator?
[19:17] We have House Bill 375, which has already passed the committee
[19:22] and is now at the Committee on Appropriations.
[19:30] They were waiting for the comments of the DOF.
[19:34] Those are now in.
[19:36] They are very positive comments.
[19:39] In the Senate here, we have the bill of Senator Bam Aquino as a counterpart bill.
[19:50] That's where it is, Paul.
[19:51] This is on civil liability, no?
[19:53] Correct, Mr. Chair.
[19:54] Okay.
[20:00] And then there's, when I was reading the different conventions,
[20:05] I'm asking as a whole nalang, rather than specific conventions.
[20:11] Meron doon, repeatedly, they mentioned peer review.
[20:15] And so how do you operationalize that peer review process?
[20:21] And at the same time, how will it improve our own regulation and processes?
[20:26] Based on your research and experience, interaction with other jurisdictions?
[20:33] Thank you for the question, Mr. Chair.
[20:35] Based on what we've been experiencing, for example,
[20:39] the Philippines has undergone at least two integrated infrastructure review or in-ear missions.
[20:46] So it is a procedure with the IAEA wherein they sent experts in the field to review our compliance with existing IAEA regulations
[20:56] and make recommendations, suggestions, or options for improvements.
[21:02] So what we envision, and I think it's going to be Phil Atom, who's going to be liaising this as the primary agency in charge with IAEA,
[21:11] is that any of our rules, regulations, or guidelines,
[21:16] they can opt to voluntarily or actively seek the assistance of our peers from IAEA and that IAEA as a member also can provide us with their necessary inputs.
[21:31] One of particular interests that Phil Atom will most likely tackle in the next decade once it's in operation
[21:37] will be the safety, security, and safeguard of small modular reactors or micromodular reactors.
[21:44] That is a field that, as indicated in the Philippine Nuclear Energy Plan,
[21:50] that we're eyeing to be on stream in the next decade or so.
[21:55] And we are hopeful that with the developments and experience coming from the IAEA and our peers in the international community,
[22:02] our Phil Atom can also issue the appropriate rules and regulations to ensure that any entry of these new technologies in the country
[22:10] would be under a safe, secure, and safeguard manner, Mr. Chair.
[22:18] Will small nuclear, small modular reactors in the deployment of these SMRs,
[22:27] do you still need to ratify the conventions?
[22:32] Because I would assume the regulations is different,
[22:38] but is it also to deploy them, do you still need to ratify these type of conventions?
[22:44] Mr. Chair, right now, the guidance document from IAEA,
[22:48] there's no specific for SMRs or micromodular reactors or small reactors right now.
[22:54] So, at present, we're still observing the conventional safety, security, safeguard requirements of the IAEA.
[23:03] But we are on the lookout for developments.
[23:06] We've taken note of the recent developments in two jurisdictions,
[23:11] one in Canada, as well as the second one is in the United States,
[23:16] where their nuclear regulatory authorities or commission have already issued specific guidance
[23:22] on a project-to-project basis for the possible deployment of small modular reactors.
[23:29] But that is not yet a universally adopted principle or guideline.
[23:34] So, the default, and I think our colleagues later on from PNRI will share,
[23:39] the default is that we still observe the conventional requirements,
[23:43] which what the four conventions under consideration still protects against.
[23:48] Medyo bago pa in technology, you know.
[23:49] So, I was just thinking out loud that since this is smaller, more modern,
[23:56] compared to the legacy technologies, the regulation will be much different.
[24:01] But I'm not very certain of that.
[24:04] That's why I want to get feedback from the OE as to what type of regulation,
[24:10] what type of approach do we need when we deploy small modular reactors.
[24:17] And is that something, I just lilis lang a konti.
[24:23] Based on your most current information, the SMRs are already commercially available globally anywhere in the world?
[24:32] Okay.
[24:33] Under consideration, when we included the SMRs in the nuclear energy plan,
[24:40] was we were eyeing those SMRs or MMRs that are licensed and possibly in commercial operation
[24:48] in the friendly countries that we interact with.
[24:51] What do you mean by commercial operation?
[24:53] But we can disclose, we're aware that there are commercially operating in China and in Russia, Mr. Chair.
[25:02] If by definition, on the size and capacity of the reactors,
[25:07] there are operating units that are under 300 megawatts in both China and in Russia,
[25:13] the one in Russia is the Lomozatom.
[25:18] We'll give you the name.
[25:19] Rosatom.
[25:21] Operated by Rosatom.
[25:22] And the one in China is, we'll also give you the name, Mr. Chair.
[25:25] Hindi ko ma-pronounce.
[25:27] Baka magkamali po.
[25:28] Lomo no-solve po yung sa Russia.
[25:31] And then yung sa China, baka hindi ko po ma-pronounce ng tama.
[25:33] Ibigayin niyo lang po namin sa inyo, Mr. Chair.
[25:36] Thank you, thank you.
[25:36] But other than those two countries, meron bang ibang commercial, commercially operated?
[25:42] What we're expecting, Mr. Chair, is that there are advanced license…
[25:45] Like-minded countries, ha?
[25:47] Opo.
[25:47] For the like-minded countries, there are in advanced license procedures stage
[25:53] in the countries that I mentioned earlier, which is the United States and Canada.
[25:57] The specific regulators have already signed off for them to proceed.
[26:02] But those units are not yet in commercial operation, Mr. Chair.
[26:08] Going back to DFA, do you have those?
[26:10] I just want to complete the discussion.
[26:12] Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[26:15] For our record, and going back to the question of Senator Gachalian here,
[26:20] there are countries that have ratified the Convention on Nuclear Safety
[26:26] but not the Convention on Supplementary Compensation.
[26:29] For example, France, Germany, and Korea, they have ratified the CNS but not the CSC.
[26:36] And then, with regards to, among ASEAN countries, on the CNS, which is the Convention on Nuclear Safety,
[26:46] there's only one signatory from ASEAN, and that is the Philippines so far, as of April 25, 2026.
[26:53] As for the Convention on Supplementary Compensation, as of October 3, 2025, there are 12 parties, 19 signatories,
[27:04] and only one signatory from the ASEAN region, and that is Indonesia.
[27:08] Your Honor, thank you.
[27:09] How about this, itong Convention on Nuclear Safety?
[27:12] Countries like, for example, the U.S., are they a party to that?
[27:18] They are a party to the CSC but not the CNS.
[27:24] The CNS.
[27:25] Like, for example, France, U.S.
[27:26] Could I yield the floor to Director, Your Honor?
[27:29] Go ahead.
[27:29] Thank you, sir.
[27:32] Sir, with respect to the U.S., the U.S. is a party to both the CSC and the CNS.
[27:36] Right, correct.
[27:40] But among the bigger nuclear power countries that we were able to monitor so far, sir,
[27:45] Korea, France, and Germany are the ones that we noted, which have big nuclear power programs,
[27:51] but notably, they are a party to the CNS but not the CSC.
[27:55] Thank you, sir.
[27:56] There are countries that are a party to CNS but not a party to the others.
[28:02] And I guess, mix and match na yan.
[28:04] May mga ibang mga countries na part.
[28:07] Itong joint convention on the safety of spent fuel, importante ito.
[28:13] Are these universally ratified by different countries?
[28:23] I would assume this is a very important convention because it governs this waste disposal.
[28:28] Mr. Chair, may I comment?
[28:30] Go ahead.
[28:30] Mr. Chair, I have with me comments from Attorney Helen Cook, the House Consultant on International Nuclear Law.
[28:44] Here are her comments.
[28:46] Together with the Vienna Convention and the CSC, the joint protocol, and that's the reason, po, I'm here.
[28:56] No, I'm not here to defend the four applications for ratification.
[29:04] I'm here to question why the joint protocol, the fifth one, was not included.
[29:10] I find it frivolous that it was not included.
[29:16] So let me begin again.
[29:18] Together with the Vienna Convention and the CSC, the joint protocol provides the most comprehensive nuclear liability coverage available.
[29:29] That's good for Philippine operator and Philippine companies and good for encouraging foreign vendor lender participation.
[29:39] Best to get the whole nuclear liability regime in place now.
[29:45] Joint protocol is already signed by the Philippines and has a relatively high number of parties, 36 today.
[29:54] There's no way to get nuclear liability protection with Paris Convention countries that are not CSC countries like France, other than through the joint protocol.
[30:12] France is a significant nuclear country and part of the supply chains of many vendor countries, Russian, U.S., Japanese, and increasing cooperation with Korean companies.
[30:30] So we are locking out some countries if we do not sign, we do not also ratify the joint protocol.
[30:42] That's the comment of Helen Cook, Your Honor, Mr. Chairman.
[30:48] Exactly, and that was the topic on the last committee meeting here in the Senate.
[30:59] And they're supposed to give us feedback today on why DFA should include the joint protocol in the request from the ODSGA that the president requests ratification from the Senate.
[31:19] Good thing, Congressman Coanko, you reminded me of that during our last hearing, this committee asked the DFA and the Department of Energy to submit.
[31:33] Have you already submitted?
[31:35] Mr. Chair, we can provide you with an update with your permission.
[31:39] So the DOE, through the NEPIAC or Nuclear Energy Program Interagency Committee, already met last April 26, 29, and we passed already there's a draft ratification package pertaining to the kit.
[31:58] We're expecting comments, if any, from the member agencies through the 8th.
[32:04] We will be formalizing the ratification package as agreed upon in the NEPIAC with the concurrence or equivalent documents.
[32:13] And we expect that this will be submitted formally to the DFA as a complete package for endorsement to the office of the president no later than June 9, Mr. Chair,
[32:27] or within the three months indicated by the DOE in the last hearing, Mr. Chair.
[32:32] Mr. Chair, for the benefit of Senator Gachalian, who was not present last hearing.
[32:42] What was presented here in this hearing was a letter from then-director, Dr. Carlos Arcelia of PNRI.
[32:54] He's now retired from PNRI and also a letter from, yeah, but he's retired, I think, anyway.
[33:08] And also, Secretary Renato Solidum of the DOST, who likewise wrote a letter urging that the 5th, the Joint Protocol, also be ratified.
[33:27] I'd like to remind the DOE that the DOE that the DOE and the PNRI are kind of co-chairs of the NEPIAC under Executive Order 164.
[33:46] So, they are not to be trivialized, the opinions of the DOE and the PNRI, Mr. Chairman.
[33:56] Thank you. DFA, will you be able to comply on June 9?
[34:02] As soon as we receive the package coming from DOE, we can endorse it right away to the office of the president, as long as the package is complete.
[34:11] So, I mean, June 9, it should be with the DFA, right?
[34:15] Yes, sir.
[34:16] Or are we talking like it will still be in Malacanang?
[34:18] On or before the 9th of June, Mr. Chair, that's our commitment that the ratification package will be with DFA for their endorsement to the office of the president.
[34:30] And you're confident that you'll be able to submit that by June 9?
[34:35] Sir, the process is that as soon as we receive the documents from the implementing agency, for example, DOE, and the package is complete, we can endorse the entire thing to the office of the president within one or two days.
[34:50] All right. Thank you.
[34:51] Before we move further, let me just go back to the Department of Energy.
[34:57] In our previous hearings, I was really wondering, a lot of people were asking who are watching us, the question is, how are we going to dispose our nuclear waste?
[35:10] Because there are only two ways to dispose this, I mean, underground or through water or something.
[35:18] How do we plan this?
[35:21] Mr. Chair, thank you for the question.
[35:23] As we've been relaying to the public, along with the other members of the NEPIAC, in the world, there's only one country that has an actual permanent working repository.
[35:37] And that came online just last year, late last year, which is Onkala in Finland.
[35:43] All of the other countries right now in the world with operating nuclear power plants, either store their intermediate waste within the nuclear facility in sealed cement caskets that you can touch after a while,
[36:01] or there's a self-seeding legislation that is passed specifically in the case of the United States.
[36:08] That is something that we're actively working on.
[36:11] That's why, at least on the part of the Department of Energy, when we are engaging our private sector and even our foreign counterparts, we've always, the Secretary, Secretary Green, and even the members of the NEPIAC has also been very clear, and even our private sector, we're also asking our foreign vendors if they're willing to take back the waste.
[36:32] That's one of the starting conversations, actually, Mr. Chair, because we are aware that the waste disposal is something that we need to address.
[36:42] But as indicated in the nuclear energy plan, that's actively being determined right now.
[36:48] And it will most likely be something that the specific NEPIAC subcommittee will be endorsing to fill atom once they are constituted because there is already ongoing work on the possible identification and the means by which we will be able to comply with fill atom on the disposal of the nuclear waste, Mr. Chair.
[37:09] So, wala pa tayong malinaw na plano or pamamaraan, how are we going to dispose itong nuclear waste?
[37:18] Nasa batas po.
[37:19] Republic Act 12305 defines the method of disposal of nuclear waste.
[37:25] Masyado pong mahaba ang sagot ng ating DOE.
[37:30] Ang maiksing sagot po is, ibabaon po natin.
[37:36] Ibabaon po natin sa isang butas na dalawang kilometro ang lalim at dalawang kilometro ang horizontal sa pagbutas.
[37:48] Yan po ay ipapasok sa silindro na stainless na hermetically sealed at doon sa horizontal portion at iba backfill ng bentonite, mud, and concrete.
[38:06] And then it is gone for eternity, cost and attention free.
[38:11] Ang tanong po is, bakit nating gustong ibaon, ang nakuha pa lang nating halaga ng fuel na yan ay 5% ng energy.
[38:27] So, malaking kayamanan po yan sa susunod na mga reactor na fast reactor, fast isobreaters, where we can reuse it 20 times.
[38:41] And pag nagamit po ng 20 times, nagiging safe po yan in 100 years and less radioactive than soil in 300 years.
[38:55] Kaya nawawala na po ang problema ng nuclear waste.
[39:00] Pero kung ninenerbios po tayo at gusto nating idispatcha, nandiyan po sa batas kung papanong ididispatcha,
[39:10] pati po ang pag-finance ng pagbutas, nandiyan po sa batas.
[39:17] Meron pong waste disposal trust fund na naset up po dyan, 6 centavos per kilowatt hour.
[39:28] Mr. Chair.
[39:29] Thank you.
[39:30] This is a very good explanation.
[39:32] Pero let me be the devil's advocate here, Congressman Nakuangko.
[39:36] So, people, particularly the critics, are really worried.
[39:41] Ito pong sinasabi ninyo, magandang pakinggan, ibabaon sa lupa, etc.
[39:46] Ang tanong po natin dito, ang kinakatakot po ng ilan,
[39:50] da baka magkaroon po ng leak and it will contaminate our groundwater and yung ating local ecosystem, sir.
[39:58] So, kasi, is this already proven in other countries na walang magiging leak?
[40:03] Mr. Chair.
[40:04] How long did other countries been using nuclear reactors and nuclear disposers like this?
[40:13] Nasa isang daang taon na po ba?
[40:15] Ano po ang ikang, what do you call this, yung safety measure, yung ikang pamamaraan na sigurado tayo na hindi magkakaroon ng leak underground
[40:29] pag ibinaong po natin at maapektuhan po ang mga tubig natin and local ecosystem?
[40:34] Yes, ang eksperto po dyan na Pilipino ay si Dr. Calayo Arcilia.
[40:40] Pinag-aralan po niya yan ng matagal.
[40:43] Ang eksperto po dyan sa Amerika ay ang kumpanyang Deep Isolation.
[40:52] May mga pilot projects na po sila.
[40:56] Yung dalawang kilometro po na lalim ay below any water table.
[41:03] Itanong nyo po sa mga geologists, sa mga eksperto.
[41:07] At ang pinag-iisipang na lugar, doon po sa laot, sa isang isla natin na sa ngayon ay,
[41:19] ito po, rekomendasyon ko lang, sa ngayon ay subject to sovereignty claims.
[41:27] We can, if we do it there, then we are putting economic value into that island.
[41:39] We are giving jobs, high-paying jobs.
[41:43] And we are attacking so many problems with one stone.
[41:50] Ang isa pa po, ang tinatawag na storage na sinasabi po ni Director Patrick,
[42:00] hindi niya maalaman kanina yung term, it's called interim storage.
[42:07] So ito po, naka-dry cask, naka-tabi sa interim storage,
[42:13] isang parang parking lot lang, or kung gusto niyong bubungan,
[42:17] pwedeng parang basketball court.
[42:20] May mga pictures po ako ng ganyan na sa Switzerland,
[42:25] pinapalibutan po ng mahigit 6,000 kabahayan.
[42:31] Tanggap na tanggap po nila yan, ang kaligtasan po niyan.
[42:35] And so, kung gusto po natin matago ang isang napakalaking yaman ng bansa,
[42:44] eh pwede po natin gawin yan.
[42:46] Pero kung nininervyos tayo at gusto natin i-dispatchan na yan with finality,
[42:54] cost and attention-free finality,
[42:58] eh gawin po natin yung nasa batas, Mr. Chair.
[43:02] Thank you, Congressman Quangal.
[43:03] Let me hear from Dr. Acilla.
[43:05] Paano po ninyo naisip na ibaon na lamang po natin ito?
[43:10] Hindi naman po ito natutunaw na parang plastic po ito,
[43:13] or basura na dudurog.
[43:15] I mean, nuclear waste,
[43:18] daang taon po ang pinag-uusap po nito,
[43:22] libong taon pa nga po.
[43:24] Bakit po ninyo naisip na pinakamaganda, ibaon sa lupa?
[43:28] Alam nyo naman po din sa atin, may earthquake tayo,
[43:30] may mga paggalaw po tayo.
[43:32] Ilagay man natin po yan sa simento,
[43:34] pag nag-crack po yan,
[43:36] baka magkaroon po tayo ng leak,
[43:38] yung ikang underground water source natin,
[43:41] local ecosystem natin,
[43:42] tamaan,
[43:43] baka naman po tayo madisgrasya po dyan.
[43:46] I mean, mayroon po bang full proof kayo?
[43:49] I mean, this is just a study, sir.
[43:51] Mayroon na po ba tala nagsabing bansa,
[43:53] hindi, full proof yan kahit na may earthquake.
[43:55] Hindi po maglilik yan,
[43:57] hindi po tumatagas yan.
[43:58] See, anuhong katibayan,
[44:01] anuhong nakita ninyo at naisip ninyo na,
[44:03] ibaon natin ang nuklear.
[44:04] E, my job,
[44:05] sang-ayon po po kanina siya sabi,
[44:06] di Direktora Aquino,
[44:09] na ipadala natin sa ibang bansa,
[44:11] pero ewan ko kung tatanggap sila,
[44:13] at saka isa pa,
[44:13] kung ready ba ang Bureau of Customs natin
[44:16] na mayroon ba silang pamamaraan na,
[44:18] ika nga,
[44:19] iship ito pa ibang bansa.
[44:20] Director, Dr. Arcelia.
[44:24] Thank you po, Senator.
[44:26] So, background ko lang po,
[44:29] I've been studying nuclear waste disposal
[44:31] for more than 20 years.
[44:34] So, ang key po dito,
[44:35] para hindi makontaminate yung tubig,
[44:38] yung bentonite.
[44:40] Kasi ganito yan,
[44:41] kasi yung nuclear waste,
[44:43] tatagal po yan,
[44:44] some of the nuclides can be for 100,000 years.
[44:48] So, patay na tayong lahat,
[44:49] nandyan pa rin siya.
[44:50] So, the only way that you can make it safe for humans
[44:55] is to isolate it from human activity.
[44:59] And the best way to do it is deep geologic burial.
[45:02] Either mine repository or deep boreholes.
[45:07] Ang sinasabi po ni Congressman Kawangko,
[45:09] in deep boreholes,
[45:10] meron tayong technology.
[45:12] Because we are number two in the world,
[45:14] the geothermal,
[45:15] our wells already reach up to three kilometers.
[45:19] Paano mo malalaman kung gaano kalalim ibabaon?
[45:23] Ang basis po niyan,
[45:25] may isa pong napaka-rich na uranium deposit sa Canada,
[45:30] si Garlic.
[45:32] Very rich po siya.
[45:33] It's 600 meters, 500 meters below the ground.
[45:37] Hindi siya makita sa saas.
[45:39] Ibig sabihin walang interaction with the groundwater.
[45:43] So, the deep geologic burial already covers that.
[45:48] Pero yung bentonite is called an engineered barrier addition.
[45:52] Bakit po importante yung bentonite?
[45:55] Bentonite, cat litter po yan.
[45:56] Meron tayong mina dito.
[45:57] Kasi bentonite, number one, is impermeable.
[46:02] Sa pangalawa,
[46:04] yung bentonite,
[46:04] yung crystal structure niya,
[46:06] clay,
[46:06] is clay layered,
[46:08] negatively charged yung layers po.
[46:11] So, kung yung positively charged,
[46:14] radioactive ions,
[46:16] escape,
[46:18] matatrap po siya doon sa layers.
[46:20] Walang takas yan,
[46:21] walang piansa.
[46:23] So, that is the standard
[46:24] for all of the world's nuclear disposal.
[46:28] Babalutin siya ng bentonite.
[46:31] So, ang gagawin,
[46:32] sinasabi ni Kongressant Kuwang Kong,
[46:34] ibaboon mo yan.
[46:35] Pag tinakpan mo ng bentonite yan,
[46:38] wala na.
[46:39] Talagang walang takas na po yan.
[46:42] Proven na po yan from many experiments.
[46:45] Tapos, ito pong si Finland,
[46:47] ginagawa na niyong kanilang,
[46:48] yung, ano po,
[46:50] yung kanilang,
[46:51] yung kanilang repository,
[46:55] yung po yung magiging, ano.
[46:57] By the way,
[46:57] there is also one existing repository po.
[47:02] Pero hindi for nuclear waste spent fuel.
[47:05] Sa U.S.,
[47:05] yung waste isolation pilot project,
[47:08] yun naman sa salt.
[47:09] So, yung technology niya,
[47:10] napakatagal na po yan.
[47:13] We're very,
[47:14] titira po ako sa isla,
[47:16] doon,
[47:17] kung papayagan.
[47:18] It's really safe.
[47:19] We've done experiments on this.
[47:21] Talagang walang tumatagos
[47:22] pag bentonite ang ilalagay mo.
[47:24] Bentonite po ang key.
[47:25] Huwag lang,
[47:26] pag walang bentonite,
[47:28] mahirap.
[47:29] So, the technology is very simple.
[47:32] The fear is not.
[47:33] I would argue that,
[47:35] Mr. Chairman,
[47:36] na para sa akin,
[47:38] kahit walang bentonite,
[47:40] okay,
[47:40] sa lalim,
[47:42] sa dami ng lupa
[47:43] na nakatambak po dyan,
[47:46] hindi na makakarating
[47:48] sa ibabaw.
[47:49] Ang example ko po,
[47:52] yung Oklo uranium mine
[47:55] sa Gabon,
[47:57] sa Africa,
[47:59] 2 billion years ago,
[48:02] natural nuclear reactor siya.
[48:06] At yung nuclear waste,
[48:07] hindi gumalaw
[48:09] kung saan nangyari
[48:11] ng mahigit isang metro.
[48:15] So,
[48:16] 2 billion years,
[48:17] hindi gumalaw
[48:18] ng isang metro,
[48:20] I think
[48:21] wala na po tayong
[48:24] hahanapin pang
[48:25] ibang safety.
[48:29] Thank you,
[48:30] Congressman.
[48:31] Sa akin ho naman,
[48:32] kaya ako natanong yan.
[48:34] Maganda ho yan,
[48:35] may binabaon ho natin,
[48:36] yung mga bentonite
[48:37] na sinasabi.
[48:38] Unfortunately,
[48:39] after several years,
[48:40] pag binaon ho ba natin ito,
[48:41] may magbabantay po ba
[48:43] na off limits?
[48:44] Alam mo naman ho
[48:45] sa ating bayan, sir,
[48:46] marami po,
[48:47] yung mga ikang
[48:48] magmimina,
[48:50] makita,
[48:51] may mga sign doon
[48:52] na keep out.
[48:53] Ano ba ito,
[48:53] keep out na ito?
[48:54] Mukhang baka may tagong
[48:55] yaman dito.
[48:56] Puhukain,
[48:57] kukotkutin,
[48:58] at sasabihin,
[48:59] di,
[49:00] mining yan,
[49:00] pwede tayo mag,
[49:01] mayroon dito
[49:02] yung gold deposit.
[49:03] E kaya siguro,
[49:04] pinapalabas tayo ng gobyerno,
[49:06] dahil dito lang tinatago,
[49:07] yung mga yamashita gold,
[49:08] kung ano-ano naman
[49:09] sasabihin ng mga tao.
[49:10] When we're all gone,
[49:11] kasi sabi nga ho ninyo,
[49:13] hundreds of thousands of years,
[49:14] 100 years pa na,
[49:16] wala na ho tayo rito lahat.
[49:17] Kaya paano yung mga yun?
[49:18] Yung mga pinanganak,
[49:19] itong after 100 years,
[49:21] makaisip ng malikot
[49:23] ang isipan.
[49:24] May mga sign tayo
[49:25] nilagay doon,
[49:25] unless kung babantayan natin yan,
[49:29] may mga tao po dyan
[49:30] for generation,
[49:31] na off limits po talaga ito.
[49:33] Mayroon marami,
[49:34] you know that,
[49:35] me and you know na,
[49:37] may mga kababayan tayo
[49:38] na hindi lang for adventure,
[49:41] kundi naghahanap ng kayamanan,
[49:43] kukutkutin,
[49:44] baka maibenta,
[49:45] titignan,
[49:46] di ba?
[49:47] So,
[49:47] curious,
[49:48] ano ba itong
[49:49] 100 years ago,
[49:51] noong 2025,
[49:52] mga binaon nila,
[49:53] 2028,
[49:53] binaon nila,
[49:54] baka kayamanan ito,
[49:55] after,
[49:56] baka sa 21,
[49:57] 25,
[49:58] eh,
[49:58] kukutkutin nila ho yun.
[50:00] Yun ang magiging problem natin dito,
[50:01] Sir.
[50:02] Senator,
[50:02] sa research mo namin,
[50:05] iniisip po yan,
[50:07] na pwedeng
[50:07] after thousands of years,
[50:10] baka nga may,
[50:11] ano,
[50:11] may magdig,
[50:12] no?
[50:13] Kaya,
[50:13] ang isang rule po,
[50:14] sa spent fuel disposal,
[50:18] you should not put it
[50:19] in any place
[50:20] na may economic.
[50:22] So,
[50:22] hindi mo pwede,
[50:22] hindi ka pwede maglagay
[50:23] na malapit sa,
[50:25] na pwedeng
[50:26] hukayan.
[50:27] Ang isang example po dyan sa US,
[50:29] yung sa kanilang,
[50:30] yung width,
[50:32] binaon nila,
[50:33] hundreds of meters,
[50:36] doon sa,
[50:37] sa,
[50:37] sa New Mexico,
[50:39] nakabaon siya,
[50:40] sa salt layer.
[50:42] Ang nangyari,
[50:43] after a few years,
[50:44] yung shale layer
[50:45] na nasa taas,
[50:47] naging viable
[50:48] for shale oil.
[50:50] So,
[50:51] nangyari nga yun,
[50:52] yung mga oil companies,
[50:54] nagdrill
[50:55] para kunin yung
[50:56] oil doon sa shale.
[50:58] So,
[50:58] kung titinan nyo yung
[50:59] repository sa US,
[51:02] may mga,
[51:03] hindi naman tinamaan
[51:04] yung repository.
[51:05] Pero,
[51:05] isa pong kagandahan yan,
[51:06] kung bakit malalim
[51:07] mong ibabaon.
[51:08] Kasi,
[51:09] it will be uneconomical
[51:10] to actually
[51:11] dig it up.
[51:12] At least,
[51:13] 500 to 600 meters.
[51:14] I'm geologist po ako.
[51:15] Marami na akong
[51:16] na-meet po
[51:16] na gustong hukayin yung,
[51:18] marami na mga,
[51:19] yung mga
[51:20] treasure,
[51:21] treasure.
[51:22] Mahirap pong hukayin
[51:23] pag nasa
[51:23] groundwater ka.
[51:25] So,
[51:25] kung nasa 500 meters,
[51:27] you will spend
[51:27] a lot more money
[51:28] than to get it out.
[51:30] But,
[51:30] there is a point
[51:30] of Congressman Cuangco here.
[51:32] And,
[51:32] part of the US,
[51:33] what it's doing now
[51:34] is this.
[51:35] Yung spent fuel po,
[51:36] 5% ang nagkukuha yan.
[51:38] There's a big research now.
[51:39] Baka pwede mong
[51:40] i-recycle.
[51:43] Because,
[51:44] the US now has
[51:44] more than 100,000 metric tons.
[51:46] Mr. Chair,
[51:47] actually,
[51:48] yung
[51:49] mainstream
[51:51] technology,
[51:53] yun po yung
[51:54] ginagawa ni Bill Gates
[51:56] sa
[51:58] fast reactor niya.
[52:00] So,
[52:00] yung
[52:01] ginagawa na po yan.
[52:03] Ginagawa na rin po yan
[52:04] ng Ruso,
[52:05] ginagawa na rin po yan
[52:07] ng China.
[52:08] So,
[52:09] yung reuse of
[52:10] or breathing
[52:11] of fuel
[52:12] is not
[52:13] a new
[52:14] technology.
[52:17] Thank you,
[52:19] Congressman Cuangco.
[52:21] Senmin,
[52:22] do you have any more
[52:23] further questions?
[52:24] Thank you.
[52:24] Thank you,
[52:25] Mr. Chairman.
[52:26] Mr. Chairman,
[52:26] let me just request
[52:27] from the
[52:27] DOF,
[52:29] sorry,
[52:29] DFA.
[52:31] Pasubmit na lang
[52:32] yung list
[52:32] ng mga
[52:33] countries na
[52:34] may mga ganitong
[52:35] convention.
[52:36] Just submit to the
[52:36] committee so we can
[52:37] take a look at that.
[52:39] And then,
[52:41] just on the topic
[52:44] of
[52:44] itong
[52:47] safety on
[52:49] spent fuel
[52:50] management
[52:50] and safety
[52:51] and safety
[52:51] on radioactive
[52:53] waste
[52:54] management.
[52:55] Ito yung isa
[52:56] sa mga
[52:57] kung meron
[52:59] dalawang
[53:00] issues
[53:00] na
[53:01] laging pinag-uusapan
[53:04] ng publiko
[53:04] is number one,
[53:05] safety.
[53:06] Number two is
[53:07] saan itatapon
[53:08] yung waste.
[53:09] So,
[53:11] nakita ko dito
[53:12] sa
[53:12] iraratify natin.
[53:13] We have
[53:14] this joint
[53:15] convention
[53:15] on safety
[53:16] of spent
[53:17] fuel
[53:18] management
[53:18] and on
[53:19] the safety
[53:20] of
[53:20] radioactive
[53:20] waste
[53:21] management.
[53:22] So,
[53:22] may I know
[53:23] from
[53:23] the DOE
[53:24] under this
[53:26] convention,
[53:27] what are
[53:27] the
[53:28] standards
[53:29] prescribed
[53:30] or what
[53:30] are the
[53:31] processes
[53:31] prescribed
[53:32] that our
[53:33] country
[53:34] should
[53:34] adhere to
[53:35] in terms
[53:37] of spent
[53:37] fuel
[53:38] management?
[53:39] So,
[53:39] we just
[53:39] want to
[53:40] understand
[53:40] kasi
[53:40] again,
[53:41] these
[53:41] conventions
[53:42] are meant
[53:43] to
[53:43] make us
[53:45] globally
[53:46] compliant
[53:47] to
[53:48] different
[53:49] global
[53:50] standards
[53:50] on
[53:51] nuclear
[53:52] safety
[53:52] as well
[53:53] as
[53:53] waste
[53:53] disposal,
[53:54] nuclear
[53:54] waste
[53:54] disposal.
[53:55] So,
[53:55] under
[53:56] this
[53:56] convention,
[53:56] can you
[53:57] cite
[53:57] some
[53:57] examples
[53:58] or
[53:58] some
[53:58] provision
[53:59] in which
[53:59] we should
[54:00] adhere
[54:01] to
[54:01] and
[54:03] also
[54:03] it
[54:04] will
[54:04] improve
[54:05] our
[54:06] processes
[54:06] on
[54:07] spent
[54:10] fuel
[54:10] disposal?
[54:13] Ito may
[54:14] mga
[54:14] global
[54:14] standards
[54:15] pagdating
[54:15] sa ganitong
[54:16] spent
[54:16] fuel
[54:17] management
[54:17] and
[54:17] disposal?
[54:18] Thank
[54:18] you,
[54:19] Mr.
[54:19] Chair.
[54:19] Part
[54:20] of
[54:20] what
[54:21] is
[54:21] required
[54:21] and
[54:22] the
[54:22] previous
[54:23] questions
[54:24] has
[54:24] already
[54:24] answered
[54:25] it,
[54:25] maliwanag
[54:26] pong
[54:26] nakalagay
[54:27] dito
[54:27] sa ating
[54:27] nilalagtaan
[54:28] na
[54:28] kinukonsidera
[54:30] na
[54:30] provision
[54:30] po is
[54:31] number
[54:31] one,
[54:31] yung
[54:32] pag-adapt
[54:32] nga po
[54:32] yung
[54:33] naunang
[54:33] tanong
[54:33] ni Mr.
[54:34] Chair
[54:34] on the
[54:35] National
[54:35] Waste
[54:35] Management
[54:36] Policy
[54:37] and
[54:37] Regulatory
[54:37] Framework.
[54:39] So,
[54:39] yun
[54:39] po yung
[54:39] ginagawa
[54:40] ngayon
[54:40] nakasalukuyan
[54:41] ng
[54:41] ating
[54:41] NEPYAC,
[54:43] Nuclear
[54:43] Energy
[54:43] Program
[54:44] Interagency
[54:49] Antipika
[54:49] dahil
[54:50] ang
[54:50] pinakamahalaga
[54:51] po
[54:51] pagdating
[54:52] dito
[54:52] sa mga
[54:52] spent
[54:53] fuel
[54:53] at
[54:53] radioactive
[54:54] waste
[54:54] management
[54:55] e
[54:55] whole
[54:55] of
[54:55] government
[54:55] po.
[54:56] So,
[54:56] bahagi
[54:57] po
[54:57] nung
[54:57] kailangan
[54:58] malaman
[54:58] e
[54:58] kung
[54:59] ano
[54:59] nga
[54:59] po
[54:59] ang
[54:59] gagawin.
[55:00] Pangalawa
[55:01] po yung
[55:01] pag-trato
[55:02] or
[55:02] cover
[55:03] po
[55:03] nito
[55:03] yung
[55:03] sa
[55:04] storage,
[55:05] paggalaw,
[55:05] pag-transport
[55:06] po at
[55:06] pag-treat
[55:07] including
[55:07] the
[55:07] disposal.
[55:09] Bahagi
[55:09] po
[55:09] nung
[55:09] mga
[55:10] requirements
[55:10] dito
[55:11] is
[55:11] that
[55:11] in-insure
[55:12] hindi
[55:12] lang po
[55:12] yung
[55:13] actual
[55:13] waste
[55:13] na
[55:14] tinatransport
[55:15] maging
[55:15] po
[55:15] yung
[55:16] public,
[55:17] maging
[55:17] po
[55:17] yung
[55:17] mga
[55:18] nagtatrabaho
[55:18] at yung
[55:19] mga
[55:19] environmental
[55:20] considerations
[55:20] are taken
[55:21] cared of.
[55:22] Bahagi
[55:23] rin
[55:23] ng plano
[55:23] Mr.
[55:24] Chair
[55:24] and
[55:24] members
[55:25] yung
[55:25] long-term
[55:25] safety
[55:26] planning.
[55:27] So,
[55:27] constantly
[55:28] po
[55:28] nagkakaroon
[55:29] ng mga
[55:29] exercises
[55:30] na ginagawa
[55:31] bilang
[55:32] a signatory
[55:33] party
[55:33] para
[55:34] masigurado
[55:35] na yung
[55:35] ating
[55:35] mga
[55:36] protocols
[55:36] yung
[55:36] ating
[55:37] mga
[55:37] procedures
[55:37] are
[55:38] working
[55:39] as planned.
[55:41] At just
[55:41] to make
[55:42] sure
[55:42] po
[55:42] na
[55:42] nababantayan
[55:43] rin
[55:43] tayo
[55:44] meron
[55:44] pong
[55:44] proseso
[55:45] rin
[55:45] ito
[55:45] ng
[55:46] triennial
[55:46] peer
[55:47] review
[55:47] process.
[55:48] So,
[55:48] yung
[55:48] ating
[55:49] mga
[55:49] kasamahan
[55:50] sa
[55:50] IAEA,
[55:51] iba pong
[55:51] bansa,
[55:52] mga
[55:52] eksperto,
[55:52] tinitignan
[55:53] po
[55:53] ito.
[55:54] So,
[55:54] kung
[55:54] susumahin
[55:55] po
[55:55] natin
[55:56] yung
[55:56] pinang
[55:56] mahalagang
[55:57] strategic
[55:57] benefit
[55:58] nito
[55:58] sa
[55:58] bansa
[55:59] dahil
[56:00] nga
[56:00] po
[56:00] kung
[56:00] sakali
[56:00] consider
[56:01] ng
[56:01] ating
[56:02] mga
[56:02] kababayan
[56:02] ng
[56:03] pagpasok
[56:03] ng
[56:03] nuclear,
[56:04] magiging
[56:05] bago
[56:05] po
[56:05] tayo
[56:05] dito.
[56:06] Meron
[56:06] pong
[56:06] mga
[56:06] bansa
[56:07] at
[56:07] mga
[56:07] eksperto
[56:08] mas
[56:08] matagal
[56:08] nang
[56:08] nag-ooperate,
[56:09] matitignan
[56:10] po at
[56:10] ma-apply
[56:11] nila
[56:11] yung
[56:12] mga
[56:12] natutunan
[56:12] para
[56:13] sigurado
[56:14] na
[56:14] pag
[56:14] tayo
[56:14] po
[56:14] nagde-deploy
[56:15] na rin
[56:15] dito,
[56:16] wala
[56:16] na po
[56:17] tayong
[56:17] magiging
[56:17] concern.
[56:19] What
[56:19] is
[56:20] the
[56:20] prescription
[56:21] under
[56:21] this
[56:21] convention?
[56:22] Ibabaon
[56:23] ba?
[56:23] Ilalagay
[56:32] safe
[56:33] waste
[56:35] disposal?
[56:36] Mr. Chair,
[56:37] sa ilalim
[56:38] po
[56:38] ng ating
[56:38] IAEA,
[56:39] yung
[56:39] determination
[56:40] po,
[56:40] ang pinuprovide
[56:41] lang po
[56:41] ng
[56:42] convention
[56:42] at
[56:42] general
[56:43] guidance
[56:43] nga po
[56:43] ng ating
[56:44] IAEA,
[56:45] yun nga po
[56:45] general
[56:45] guidance,
[56:47] yung mga
[56:47] proseso
[56:47] and
[56:47] procedures
[56:48] na
[56:48] kailangan
[56:49] ni-observe.
[56:50] Ang
[56:50] ating
[56:50] independent
[56:51] national
[56:52] regulators
[56:52] ultimately
[56:53] at
[56:54] yung
[56:54] mga
[56:54] batas
[56:54] po
[56:54] nating
[56:55] ipinapasa
[56:55] ang
[56:56] nag-determine
[56:57] kung
[56:57] paano
[56:57] po
[56:58] ito
[56:58] i-execute.
[56:59] Kagaya
[56:59] nga po
[56:59] nang
[57:00] nabanggit
[57:00] ni
[57:00] Congress
[57:01] 1.2305,
[57:03] meron pong
[57:04] nilagay
[57:04] na
[57:04] mekanismo
[57:05] na
[57:05] yung
[57:05] pagbabaon
[57:06] nga po,
[57:07] yung
[57:07] treatment
[57:07] ng
[57:07] intermediate
[57:08] waste
[57:09] disposal,
[57:10] so
[57:10] yun po
[57:10] yung
[57:10] ating
[57:11] susundin
[57:11] at
[57:11] i-implement
[57:12] ng
[57:12] ating
[57:13] philatom.
[57:16] Yung mga
[57:16] ganitong
[57:17] waste
[57:18] disposal
[57:18] under
[57:19] these
[57:19] conventions,
[57:20] under
[57:20] dito
[57:21] sa
[57:21] joint
[57:21] convention,
[57:22] who
[57:22] pays
[57:22] for it?
[57:24] Is
[57:24] it
[57:24] the
[57:24] operator?
[57:26] Is
[57:26] it
[57:26] government?
[57:28] Mr.
[57:28] Chair.
[57:29] Yes,
[57:31] that is
[57:33] provided
[57:34] for
[57:34] in the
[57:35] Republic
[57:36] Act
[57:36] 12305
[57:37] for
[57:39] nuclear
[57:40] waste
[57:40] disposal.
[57:41] It
[57:41] is
[57:41] six
[57:42] centavos
[57:43] per
[57:43] kilowatt
[57:44] hour
[57:44] paid
[57:46] for
[57:46] the
[57:47] entire
[57:48] life
[57:48] of
[57:49] the
[57:49] operating
[57:50] life
[57:51] of
[57:51] the
[57:51] nuclear
[57:51] power
[57:52] plant.
[57:52] Aside
[57:53] from
[57:53] the
[57:54] six
[57:54] centavos
[57:55] per
[57:55] kilowatt
[57:55] hour,
[57:56] there
[57:57] is
[57:57] another
[57:58] six
[57:58] centavos
[57:59] per
[57:59] kilowatt
[58:00] hour
[58:00] for
[58:01] end
[58:01] of
[58:01] life
[58:02] decommissioning
[58:03] of
[58:03] the
[58:04] nuclear
[58:04] power
[58:04] plant
[58:05] to
[58:06] bring
[58:06] it
[58:06] back
[58:06] to
[58:07] green
[58:07] field
[58:07] conditions.
[58:09] In
[58:09] fact,
[58:09] we have
[58:10] pictures
[58:10] of
[58:11] actual
[58:12] examples
[58:13] in
[58:14] New
[58:14] York
[58:14] State
[58:15] where
[58:15] they
[58:15] have
[58:15] already
[58:16] done
[58:17] this
[58:17] decommissioning.
[58:18] Mr.
[58:19] Chair.
[58:20] Thank
[58:20] you for
[58:21] that
[58:21] information.
[58:23] I'll
[58:23] go to
[58:24] another
[58:24] topic,
[58:24] Mr.
[58:24] Chair,
[58:25] with
[58:25] your
[58:25] permission.
[58:26] Go ahead.
[58:27] In
[58:28] the
[58:28] Philippines,
[58:28] we
[58:29] operate
[58:29] under
[58:29] a
[58:30] deregulated
[58:30] regime.
[58:31] It's a
[58:32] private
[58:32] sector
[58:33] that
[58:34] invests
[58:38] in terms
[58:39] of putting
[58:39] up
[58:39] power
[58:40] plants,
[58:41] in terms
[58:41] of putting
[58:42] up
[58:42] transmission
[58:44] and
[58:44] distribution
[58:44] facilities.
[58:45] So the
[58:46] whole
[58:46] electric
[58:46] power
[58:47] deregulated
[58:49] so how
[58:50] will
[58:50] this
[58:50] convention
[58:51] attract
[58:54] investors
[58:54] in the
[58:55] nuclear
[58:56] energy
[58:57] or
[58:58] nuclear
[58:58] power
[58:59] sector?
[59:00] Because
[59:00] these
[59:00] conventions
[59:01] are meant
[59:02] to put
[59:02] us on
[59:02] international
[59:03] footing.
[59:04] So
[59:04] if you
[59:06] have
[59:07] come to
[59:08] outside,
[59:09] there are
[59:09] value
[59:10] these
[59:11] conventions.
[59:12] I'm
[59:12] just
[59:12] thinking
[59:12] out
[59:13] loud.
[59:13] But
[59:14] give us
[59:15] some
[59:16] specific
[59:17] examples
[59:17] on how
[59:18] these
[59:19] four
[59:19] conventions
[59:20] will
[59:20] enable
[59:22] the
[59:22] country
[59:22] to
[59:23] attract
[59:23] investors
[59:25] in putting
[59:26] up
[59:26] nuclear
[59:26] power
[59:27] plants.
[59:27] And
[59:27] considering
[59:28] nuclear
[59:28] power
[59:28] plants
[59:28] are
[59:29] very
[59:29] expensive,
[59:30] not
[59:30] cheap.
[59:30] So
[59:32] what
[59:34] are
[59:34] features
[59:34] we can
[59:35] use
[59:36] to
[59:36] attract
[59:36] investors?
[59:37] Thank you
[59:38] Mr.
[59:38] Chair.
[59:39] The
[59:39] primary
[59:40] consideration
[59:41] as we
[59:41] mentioned
[59:42] earlier,
[59:43] that's why
[59:45] we
[59:46] will
[59:47] say
[59:47] that
[59:48] you
[59:49] are
[59:49] private
[59:50] sector.
[59:53] Privado
[59:53] ang
[59:53] invest.
[59:54] Hinihipa
[59:56] sa
[59:56] pag-tuloy
[59:58] po
[59:58] nating
[59:58] koordinasyon
[59:59] at
[59:59] kausap
[1:00:00] po
[1:00:00] natin
[1:00:00] ang DOE
[1:00:01] at
[1:00:01] kasama
[1:00:01] po
[1:00:02] yung
[1:00:02] NEPCAP,
[1:00:02] kausap
[1:00:02] po
[1:00:03] natin
[1:00:03] ang
[1:00:03] pribadong
[1:00:03] sektor,
[1:00:04] isa
[1:00:04] po
[1:00:05] ito
[1:00:05] sa
[1:00:05] mga
[1:00:05] hinihiling
[1:00:05] nila.
[1:00:06] Bakit
[1:00:07] po
[1:00:07] nila
[1:00:07] hinihiling
[1:00:08] ito
[1:00:08] Mr.
[1:00:09] Chair
[1:00:09] at
[1:00:09] mga
[1:00:10] kababayan
[1:00:10] natin?
[1:00:11] Nagbibigay
[1:00:12] po
[1:00:12] kasi
[1:00:12] itong
[1:00:13] apat
[1:00:13] na
[1:00:13] konbensyon
[1:00:13] nito
[1:00:14] ng
[1:00:14] certainty,
[1:00:16] regulatory
[1:00:16] certainty,
[1:00:17] the
[1:00:24] na
[1:00:25] ina-adapt
[1:00:25] natin
[1:00:26] sa
[1:00:26] konbensyon
[1:00:26] ito,
[1:00:27] ito
[1:00:27] rin
[1:00:27] yung
[1:00:27] sinusunod
[1:00:29] sa
[1:00:29] mga
[1:00:29] bansang
[1:00:30] pag
[1:00:30] gagalingan
[1:00:31] natin
[1:00:31] ng
[1:00:31] teknolohiya.
[1:00:33] So,
[1:00:33] yun yung
[1:00:33] assurance
[1:00:34] natin
[1:00:34] bilang
[1:00:35] mga
[1:00:35] Pilipino
[1:00:36] at
[1:00:36] yung
[1:00:36] ating
[1:00:37] pribadong
[1:00:37] sektor
[1:00:38] na
[1:00:38] kapagbahagi
[1:00:39] tayo
[1:00:39] nitong
[1:00:40] konbensyon
[1:00:40] na
[1:00:40] ito,
[1:00:41] kung
[1:00:41] ano
[1:00:41] yung
[1:00:41] nakikita
[1:00:42] natin
[1:00:42] na
[1:00:43] implementasyon,
[1:00:44] yung
[1:00:45] nakikita
[1:00:45] nating
[1:00:45] safety,
[1:00:46] nakikita
[1:00:46] nating
[1:00:46] security
[1:00:47] at
[1:00:47] safeguard
[1:00:54] dynamic
[1:00:55] po
[1:00:55] ang
[1:00:55] ating
[1:00:56] teknolohiya
[1:00:56] at
[1:00:57] dahil
[1:00:58] nga
[1:00:58] madaming
[1:00:58] bansa
[1:00:58] ang
[1:00:59] bahagi
[1:00:59] rin
[1:00:59] na
[1:00:59] ito
[1:00:59] na
[1:01:00] ibibigay
[1:01:00] po
[1:01:00] ng
[1:01:00] ating
[1:01:01] DFA
[1:01:01] na
[1:01:02] peer
[1:01:02] review
[1:01:03] nga
[1:01:03] ito.
[1:01:04] Yung
[1:01:04] ating
[1:01:04] mga
[1:01:04] conventions
[1:01:05] may
[1:01:05] mga
[1:01:05] peer
[1:01:06] review
[1:01:06] ito,
[1:01:07] may
[1:01:07] mga
[1:01:07] opportunities
[1:01:08] for
[1:01:08] expert
[1:01:09] missions
[1:01:09] na
[1:01:10] pupunta
[1:01:11] po
[1:01:11] sa
[1:01:11] ating
[1:01:11] bansa
[1:01:11] ang
[1:01:12] IAEA
[1:01:13] o
[1:01:13] magpapadala
[1:01:14] po
[1:01:14] tayo
[1:01:14] na
[1:01:14] eksperto
[1:01:15] para
[1:01:15] patuloy
[1:01:16] po
[1:01:16] rin
[1:01:16] nag-i-improve
[1:01:17] yung
[1:01:17] ating
[1:01:18] regulasyon
[1:01:18] yung
[1:01:18] ating
[1:01:19] implementasyon
[1:01:20] nito
[1:01:20] mga
[1:01:20] convention
[1:01:20] nito
[1:01:21] uulitin
[1:01:21] po
[1:01:22] natin
[1:01:22] kapag
[1:01:23] nag-decision
[1:01:23] po
[1:01:23] ang
[1:01:23] ating
[1:01:24] mga
[1:01:24] kababayan
[1:01:25] na
[1:01:25] umuos
[1:01:26] sa isang
[1:01:26] nuclear
[1:01:26] power
[1:01:27] plant
[1:01:27] maliwanag
[1:01:28] po
[1:01:28] ang
[1:01:28] direksyon
[1:01:29] ng
[1:01:29] gobyerno
[1:01:30] bilang
[1:01:30] whole
[1:01:31] of
[1:01:31] government
[1:01:32] we
[1:01:32] will
[1:01:33] only
[1:01:33] operate
[1:01:33] it
[1:01:34] under
[1:01:34] complete
[1:01:35] safety
[1:01:36] security
[1:01:36] and
[1:01:37] safeguard
[1:01:37] yun
[1:01:37] po
[1:01:38] talaga
[1:01:38] ang
[1:01:38] masusunod
[1:01:39] pag
[1:01:40] hindi
[1:01:40] po
[1:01:40] tayo
[1:01:41] makakapag-operate
[1:01:42] ng
[1:01:42] safety
[1:01:43] secure
[1:01:43] at
[1:01:43] safeguard
[1:01:44] kahit
[1:01:45] po
[1:01:45] pilitin
[1:01:45] natin
[1:01:46] hindi
[1:01:46] rin
[1:01:46] tayo
[1:01:46] bebentahan
[1:01:47] kaya
[1:01:47] ang
[1:01:47] mahalaga
[1:01:48] po
[1:01:48] talaga
[1:01:48] isa
[1:01:49] po
[1:01:49] ito
[1:01:49] sa
[1:01:49] hinihingi
[1:01:50] ng
[1:01:50] ating
[1:01:50] pribadong
[1:01:51] sektor
[1:01:51] at
[1:01:52] ang
[1:01:52] importante
[1:01:53] rin
[1:01:53] sa
[1:01:53] ating
[1:01:53] mga
[1:01:54] kababayan
[1:01:54] ito
[1:01:55] rin
[1:01:55] yung
[1:01:55] ating
[1:01:56] safety
[1:01:56] net
[1:01:57] na
[1:01:57] kinakailangan
[1:01:58] para
[1:01:59] yung
[1:01:59] lahat
[1:01:59] ng
[1:01:59] ino-operate
[1:02:00] natin
[1:02:00] world
[1:02:01] class
[1:02:01] sumusunod
[1:02:02] sa
[1:02:02] pandaing
[1:02:03] digan
[1:02:03] na pamantayan
[1:02:04] po
[1:02:04] thank you
[1:02:05] director
[1:02:06] to
[1:02:07] yes
[1:02:08] congressman
[1:02:09] mark
[1:02:09] senator
[1:02:10] signatory
[1:02:13] na po
[1:02:13] tayo
[1:02:14] sa
[1:02:14] vienna
[1:02:14] 63
[1:02:15] pero
[1:02:16] hindi
[1:02:17] tayo
[1:02:18] nag
[1:02:18] follow
[1:02:19] through
[1:02:19] noong
[1:02:20] in-upgrade
[1:02:21] yung
[1:02:21] vienna
[1:02:22] 63
[1:02:22] noong
[1:02:24] ginawang
[1:02:24] vienna
[1:02:25] 97
[1:02:25] so we
[1:02:26] did
[1:02:26] not
[1:02:26] follow
[1:02:27] although
[1:02:29] signatory
[1:02:29] po
[1:02:30] tayo
[1:02:31] nagkaroon
[1:02:32] ng
[1:02:32] requirement
[1:02:32] na
[1:02:33] ratify
[1:02:33] ng
[1:02:34] senate
[1:02:34] hindi
[1:02:35] po
[1:02:36] nagawa
[1:02:36] every
[1:02:37] administration
[1:02:38] nag-uumpisa
[1:02:39] from the
[1:02:40] beginning
[1:02:40] or
[1:02:41] nakakalimutan
[1:02:42] to pursue
[1:02:43] it at
[1:02:43] all
[1:02:43] right
[1:02:44] so
[1:02:45] kumbaga
[1:02:47] talo tayo
[1:02:48] by default
[1:02:49] Mr.
[1:02:50] Senator
[1:02:50] so
[1:02:52] yun
[1:02:54] namang
[1:02:54] CSC
[1:02:55] tinutulak
[1:02:56] ng
[1:02:56] Amerikano
[1:02:57] CSC
[1:02:59] mandates
[1:02:59] and
[1:03:00] nakalagay
[1:03:02] po
[1:03:02] sa
[1:03:02] ating
[1:03:03] liability
[1:03:04] bill
[1:03:05] a
[1:03:07] total
[1:03:08] liability
[1:03:09] cover
[1:03:11] insurance
[1:03:12] cover
[1:03:13] of
[1:03:13] 300
[1:03:14] million
[1:03:14] SDRs
[1:03:15] that is
[1:03:16] equivalent
[1:03:17] to about
[1:03:17] 450
[1:03:18] million
[1:03:19] US
[1:03:20] dollars
[1:03:21] kung may
[1:03:23] mangyaring
[1:03:23] disgrace
[1:03:26] ang lahat
[1:03:29] po
[1:03:29] ng
[1:03:29] miyembro
[1:03:30] ng
[1:03:30] CSC
[1:03:31] magkocontribute
[1:03:33] po
[1:03:33] para
[1:03:34] madagdagam
[1:03:35] pa
[1:03:35] yung
[1:03:36] 300
[1:03:38] million
[1:03:38] SDRs
[1:03:40] ang
[1:03:42] participation
[1:03:43] naman
[1:03:44] natin
[1:03:44] depende
[1:03:46] sa
[1:03:46] dami
[1:03:46] ng
[1:03:47] ating
[1:03:47] nuclear
[1:03:47] power
[1:03:48] plant
[1:03:48] kung
[1:03:49] wala
[1:03:49] pa tayong
[1:03:50] nuclear
[1:03:50] power
[1:03:50] plant
[1:03:51] ang
[1:03:51] contribution
[1:03:52] po
[1:03:53] natin
[1:03:53] napakaliit
[1:03:56] in the
[1:03:57] tens
[1:03:58] of
[1:03:58] thousands
[1:03:59] of
[1:03:59] dollars
[1:04:00] lang
[1:04:00] every
[1:04:00] year
[1:04:01] just
[1:04:02] to
[1:04:02] maintain
[1:04:04] good
[1:04:04] standing
[1:04:05] So
[1:04:06] I'll give you
[1:04:08] an example
[1:04:08] Mr.
[1:04:09] Senator
[1:04:09] yung
[1:04:10] UAE
[1:04:11] anong
[1:04:12] ginawa nila
[1:04:13] yung
[1:04:14] regime nila
[1:04:14] member sila
[1:04:16] ng
[1:04:16] Vienna
[1:04:17] 97
[1:04:17] member sila
[1:04:19] ng
[1:04:20] CSC
[1:04:21] and
[1:04:22] member sila
[1:04:23] ng
[1:04:23] joint
[1:04:23] protocol
[1:04:24] So
[1:04:25] all three
[1:04:26] po
[1:04:26] itong
[1:04:27] joint
[1:04:27] protocol
[1:04:28] hindi
[1:04:29] po
[1:04:29] naisali
[1:04:30] ng
[1:04:30] DFA
[1:04:31] sa
[1:04:32] pagrekomenda
[1:04:33] sa ating
[1:04:34] presidente
[1:04:34] na
[1:04:35] i-request
[1:04:36] sa Senado
[1:04:37] na
[1:04:38] isali
[1:04:39] yung
[1:04:39] joint
[1:04:40] protocol
[1:04:41] Alam
[1:04:41] nyo
[1:04:42] even
[1:04:42] for
[1:04:43] the
[1:04:44] image
[1:04:44] of
[1:04:44] the
[1:04:44] country
[1:04:45] in
[1:04:46] international
[1:04:47] relations
[1:04:48] para
[1:04:49] tayong
[1:04:49] napaka
[1:04:50] walang
[1:04:51] kwentang
[1:04:52] partner
[1:04:54] no
[1:04:55] pirmado
[1:04:56] tayo
[1:04:57] ang
[1:04:57] pumirma
[1:04:58] pa niyan
[1:04:58] si
[1:04:59] Cory
[1:04:59] Aquino
[1:05:00] 1988
[1:05:02] up to
[1:05:04] now
[1:05:04] hindi
[1:05:04] pa
[1:05:04] po
[1:05:05] na
[1:05:05] ratify
[1:05:05] yan
[1:05:06] So
[1:05:07] how
[1:05:07] can
[1:05:07] we
[1:05:08] be
[1:05:08] counted
[1:05:08] upon
[1:05:09] as
[1:05:10] reliable
[1:05:10] international
[1:05:12] partners
[1:05:12] our
[1:05:13] DFA
[1:05:14] succumbs
[1:05:15] to
[1:05:16] bureaucracy
[1:05:18] hindi
[1:05:20] po
[1:05:20] nila
[1:05:20] naitulak
[1:05:23] na
[1:05:23] at least
[1:05:24] i-argument
[1:05:25] lang
[1:05:25] sa cabinet
[1:05:26] meeting
[1:05:26] or sa
[1:05:27] nepyak
[1:05:28] uy
[1:05:28] baka
[1:05:30] dapat
[1:05:30] isalin
[1:05:31] na natin
[1:05:32] ito
[1:05:32] at
[1:05:32] ang
[1:05:33] pangit
[1:05:33] ng
[1:05:33] image
[1:05:34] natin
[1:05:34] sa
[1:05:34] international
[1:05:35] community
[1:05:36] hindi
[1:05:37] po
[1:05:37] nila
[1:05:37] naisagawa
[1:05:38] yun
[1:05:38] Thank you
[1:05:42] for that
[1:05:42] point
[1:05:43] Congressman
[1:05:44] Naku
[1:05:45] Wango
[1:05:45] problem
[1:05:45] po
[1:05:45] natin
[1:05:46] dito
[1:05:46] syempre
[1:05:47] yung
[1:05:47] international
[1:05:48] community
[1:05:49] pero
[1:05:50] yung
[1:05:51] reactions
[1:05:52] po
[1:05:52] ng mga
[1:05:52] kababayan
[1:05:53] po
[1:05:53] natin
[1:05:53] we just
[1:05:53] want
[1:05:54] to
[1:05:54] guarantee
[1:05:57] them
[1:05:57] that
[1:05:57] this is
[1:05:58] really
[1:05:58] Mr.
[1:05:58] Chair
[1:05:59] that
[1:05:59] this is
[1:06:00] really
[1:06:00] in case
[1:06:01] something
[1:06:02] goes
[1:06:02] wrong
[1:06:03] we are
[1:06:04] ready
[1:06:04] we have
[1:06:05] this
[1:06:05] options
[1:06:05] Mr.
[1:06:06] Chair
[1:06:06] At
[1:06:07] kahit
[1:06:08] hindi
[1:06:08] po
[1:06:09] tayo
[1:06:09] pumasok
[1:06:10] sa
[1:06:10] nuclear
[1:06:11] energy
[1:06:11] at
[1:06:12] all
[1:06:12] kailangan
[1:06:13] po
[1:06:14] natin
[1:06:14] ito
[1:06:14] sa
[1:06:15] medicine
[1:06:15] sa
[1:06:16] industry
[1:06:17] at
[1:06:18] in
[1:06:18] general
[1:06:19] kasi
[1:06:19] meron
[1:06:20] po
[1:06:21] meron
[1:06:21] pong
[1:06:22] radioactive
[1:06:22] substances
[1:06:23] na
[1:06:24] tinatransport
[1:06:25] through
[1:06:26] our
[1:06:26] territories
[1:06:27] po
[1:06:28] it's
[1:06:30] a
[1:06:30] commodity
[1:06:32] of
[1:06:32] trade
[1:06:33] so
[1:06:33] for
[1:06:35] that
[1:06:35] reason
[1:06:35] even
[1:06:36] not
[1:06:37] napapasok
[1:06:38] tayo
[1:06:38] sa
[1:06:39] nuclear
[1:06:39] energy
[1:06:40] kailangan
[1:06:41] po
[1:06:41] maratify
[1:06:42] itong
[1:06:42] mga
[1:06:42] convention
[1:06:43] na ito
[1:06:43] Thank you
[1:06:44] which
[1:06:45] brings me
[1:06:46] and would
[1:06:47] like to
[1:06:47] call the
[1:06:47] attention
[1:06:48] of the
[1:06:48] Bureau
[1:06:48] of
[1:06:48] Customs
[1:06:50] Dito
[1:06:51] po
[1:06:51] sa
[1:06:51] nabanggit
[1:06:52] po
[1:06:52] ni
[1:06:52] Congressman
[1:06:54] Kuwangko
[1:06:55] na
[1:06:55] meron tayong
[1:06:56] mga
[1:06:56] radioactive
[1:06:58] materials
[1:06:59] na
[1:06:59] pinapasok
[1:07:00] po
[1:07:00] sa
[1:07:00] ating
[1:07:01] bansa
[1:07:01] and
[1:07:02] if
[1:07:02] we
[1:07:02] will
[1:07:03] really
[1:07:03] move
[1:07:04] forward
[1:07:04] to
[1:07:05] build
[1:07:06] our
[1:07:06] own
[1:07:06] nuclear
[1:07:07] power
[1:07:07] plants
[1:07:08] kailangan
[1:07:08] po
[1:07:08] natin
[1:07:09] mga
[1:07:09] importations
[1:07:10] po
[1:07:10] mga
[1:07:11] uranium
[1:07:11] 235
[1:07:12] kung
[1:07:12] tawagin
[1:07:13] Are you
[1:07:13] guys
[1:07:14] ready
[1:07:14] to
[1:07:14] handle
[1:07:14] this
[1:07:15] sir?
[1:07:16] Kasi
[1:07:16] naalala
[1:07:17] ko
[1:07:17] several
[1:07:18] years
[1:07:18] ago
[1:07:18] ibang
[1:07:19] administration
[1:07:19] pa
[1:07:20] pinadala
[1:07:20] lang po
[1:07:21] tayo
[1:07:21] ng
[1:07:21] mga
[1:07:21] used
[1:07:21] diaper
[1:07:22] na
[1:07:22] tarantan
[1:07:22] ho
[1:07:22] tayo
[1:07:23] may
[1:07:24] mga
[1:07:24] dugo
[1:07:24] may
[1:07:24] mga
[1:07:25] kung
[1:07:25] ano
[1:07:25] ano
[1:07:25] kasi
[1:07:26] nabiyo
[1:07:26] sa
[1:07:26] mga
[1:07:26] kumakain
[1:07:27] na
[1:07:27] nervyos
[1:07:28] na
[1:07:28] isang
[1:07:29] container
[1:07:29] ng
[1:07:29] mga
[1:07:29] diaper
[1:07:30] ng
[1:07:30] mga
[1:07:30] matatanda
[1:07:31] ng
[1:07:31] mga
[1:07:31] bata
[1:07:32] yun
[1:07:32] pala
[1:07:33] ng
[1:07:33] yun
[1:07:33] dumi
[1:07:33] pala
[1:07:33] ng
[1:07:33] tao
[1:07:34] how
[1:07:34] much
[1:07:34] more
[1:07:35] kung
[1:07:35] ito
[1:07:36] po
[1:07:36] mga
[1:07:36] uranium
[1:07:36] 235
[1:07:37] para
[1:07:38] sa
[1:07:38] nuclear
[1:07:38] power
[1:07:38] plant
[1:07:39] ito
[1:07:39] po
[1:07:39] mga
[1:07:40] radioactive
[1:07:40] materials
[1:07:42] meron
[1:07:43] na
[1:07:43] po
[1:07:43] ba
[1:07:43] yun
[1:07:43] protocol
[1:07:44] dito
[1:07:44] I mean
[1:07:45] can
[1:07:45] you
[1:07:45] handle
[1:07:45] this
[1:07:46] good
[1:07:47] morning
[1:07:47] Mr.
[1:07:48] Chair
[1:07:48] Mr.
[1:07:49] Chair
[1:07:49] we
[1:07:50] have
[1:07:50] a
[1:07:50] protocol
[1:07:50] but
[1:07:51] unfortunately
[1:07:51] we
[1:07:52] don't
[1:07:52] have
[1:07:52] the
[1:07:52] equipment
[1:07:53] we
[1:07:54] only
[1:07:54] have
[1:07:55] one
[1:07:55] x-ray
[1:07:57] machine
[1:07:57] and
[1:07:58] it's
[1:07:58] not
[1:07:58] even
[1:07:58] functioning
[1:07:58] that's
[1:07:59] capable
[1:08:00] of
[1:08:00] detecting
[1:08:01] radioactive
[1:08:01] material
[1:08:02] so
[1:08:03] what
[1:08:03] we're
[1:08:03] doing
[1:08:03] right
[1:08:03] now
[1:08:04] if
[1:08:04] there's
[1:08:06] any
[1:08:06] product
[1:08:06] coming
[1:08:07] in
[1:08:07] of
[1:08:08] similar
[1:08:09] kind
[1:08:09] or
[1:08:10] radioactive
[1:08:10] we
[1:08:11] try
[1:08:11] to
[1:08:11] coordinate
[1:08:12] with
[1:08:12] the
[1:08:12] proper
[1:08:12] government
[1:08:13] agency
[1:08:13] to
[1:08:14] know
[1:08:14] the
[1:08:15] handling
[1:08:15] sans
[1:08:16] this
[1:08:17] particular
[1:08:17] detection
[1:08:18] machines
[1:08:19] we've
[1:08:19] been
[1:08:20] we
[1:08:22] are
[1:08:22] on
[1:08:23] the
[1:08:23] verge
[1:08:23] of
[1:08:24] modernizing
[1:08:25] our
[1:08:25] scanning
[1:08:26] capabilities
[1:08:27] and
[1:08:28] one
[1:08:28] of
[1:08:28] the
[1:08:28] requests
[1:08:29] that
[1:08:29] we're
[1:08:30] asking
[1:08:31] for
[1:08:31] is
[1:08:31] to
[1:08:31] upgrade
[1:08:32] some
[1:08:33] of
[1:08:33] our
[1:08:33] detection
[1:08:34] machines
[1:08:34] to
[1:08:34] include
[1:08:35] the
[1:08:36] capability
[1:08:36] of
[1:08:37] scanning
[1:08:37] radioactive
[1:08:38] materials
[1:08:38] so
[1:08:39] let me
[1:08:42] just
[1:08:43] follow
[1:08:43] up
[1:08:43] my
[1:08:43] question
[1:08:44] how
[1:08:46] did
[1:08:47] detect
[1:08:47] this
[1:08:47] cargamento
[1:08:48] may
[1:08:49] radioactive
[1:08:50] material
[1:08:51] mayroon
[1:08:52] po
[1:08:52] siyang
[1:08:52] how
[1:08:54] do you
[1:08:55] detect
[1:08:56] this
[1:08:56] kasi
[1:08:57] po
[1:08:57] napapanood
[1:08:57] natin
[1:08:58] sa
[1:08:58] pelikula
[1:08:58] sa
[1:08:59] mga
[1:08:59] youtube
[1:08:59] dyan
[1:09:00] pag
[1:09:00] nalaman
[1:09:00] nila
[1:09:00] na may
[1:09:01] radioactive
[1:09:01] naka
[1:09:02] suot
[1:09:03] ng mga
[1:09:03] gown
[1:09:05] mga
[1:09:05] mask
[1:09:06] etc
[1:09:07] etc
[1:09:07] how
[1:09:08] how
[1:09:09] do you
[1:09:09] handle
[1:09:09] this
[1:09:09] pag
[1:09:10] na
[1:09:10] detect
[1:09:10] nyo
[1:09:10] na
[1:09:11] meron
[1:09:11] radioactive
[1:09:12] yung
[1:09:13] yung
[1:09:13] x-ray
[1:09:13] machines
[1:09:13] namin
[1:09:14] sir
[1:09:14] nadidetect
[1:09:14] niya
[1:09:15] but
[1:09:15] the
[1:09:17] machine
[1:09:19] depends
[1:09:19] on
[1:09:20] the
[1:09:20] reading
[1:09:21] of
[1:09:21] the
[1:09:21] x-ray
[1:09:22] technician
[1:09:22] yung
[1:09:23] modern
[1:09:24] machines
[1:09:24] po
[1:09:25] kasi
[1:09:25] it
[1:09:26] alarms
[1:09:26] already
[1:09:27] meaning
[1:09:28] pag
[1:09:28] pasok
[1:09:28] ko
[1:09:28] na
[1:09:29] umaalarma
[1:09:29] kagad
[1:09:30] yung
[1:09:30] x-ray
[1:09:31] na may
[1:09:31] radioactive
[1:09:32] material
[1:09:32] yung
[1:09:33] ngayon
[1:09:33] po
[1:09:33] yung
[1:09:33] machine
[1:09:34] natin
[1:09:34] nadidetect
[1:09:35] lang
[1:09:35] ho
[1:09:35] nya
[1:09:35] and
[1:09:36] the
[1:09:38] x-ray
[1:09:39] technician
[1:09:39] will flag
[1:09:41] that
[1:09:41] and
[1:09:41] yun po
[1:09:42] yung
[1:09:42] kinoconfirm
[1:09:42] namin
[1:09:43] sa other
[1:09:43] government
[1:09:43] agencies
[1:09:44] ganun
[1:09:45] ho
[1:09:45] nangyayari
[1:09:45] hindi
[1:09:46] ho
[1:09:46] yung
[1:09:46] tulad
[1:09:47] nung
[1:09:47] sa
[1:09:47] ibang
[1:09:48] bansa
[1:09:48] no
[1:09:48] ang
[1:09:48] modern
[1:09:49] x-ray
[1:09:49] machines
[1:09:49] nila
[1:09:50] pag
[1:09:50] pasok
[1:09:51] pa
[1:09:51] lang
[1:09:51] po
[1:09:52] nag
[1:09:53] alarm
[1:09:53] na
[1:09:53] po
[1:09:53] kagad
[1:09:54] yung
[1:09:54] x-ray
[1:09:54] machine
[1:09:54] nadidetect
[1:09:55] niya
[1:09:55] kagad
[1:09:55] yung
[1:09:56] yung
[1:09:57] automatically
[1:09:57] yung
[1:09:58] radioactive
[1:09:59] materials
[1:10:00] and
[1:10:01] substances
[1:10:01] dito
[1:10:02] po
[1:10:02] madidetect
[1:10:03] siya
[1:10:03] manually
[1:10:03] which
[1:10:05] will
[1:10:06] then
[1:10:06] flag
[1:10:07] our
[1:10:08] x-ray
[1:10:09] technicians
[1:10:09] or
[1:10:10] the
[1:10:10] readers
[1:10:10] to
[1:10:11] consult
[1:10:12] government
[1:10:13] agencies
[1:10:13] on the
[1:10:15] matter
[1:10:15] I turn
[1:10:16] this over
[1:10:17] to
[1:10:17] Congressman
[1:10:18] Kuhangko
[1:10:18] so
[1:10:19] pag may
[1:10:19] nadetect
[1:10:20] kayo
[1:10:20] anong
[1:10:20] ginagawa
[1:10:21] nyo
[1:10:21] nilalagyan
[1:10:23] nyo
[1:10:23] siyang
[1:10:23] tabi
[1:10:23] meron
[1:10:24] kayong
[1:10:24] container
[1:10:25] na
[1:10:25] kasi
[1:10:26] this is
[1:10:27] radioactive
[1:10:28] di
[1:10:28] ho
[1:10:29] ba
[1:10:29] so
[1:10:29] naantay
[1:10:31] nyo
[1:10:31] kung
[1:10:31] nasasabihin
[1:10:31] ng
[1:10:32] pipick
[1:10:32] up
[1:10:33] in
[1:10:33] Department
[1:10:33] of
[1:10:34] Energy
[1:10:34] anong
[1:10:35] process
[1:10:35] how
[1:10:36] usually
[1:10:37] sir
[1:10:37] yung
[1:10:37] mga
[1:10:38] legitimate
[1:10:38] importers
[1:10:39] naman
[1:10:39] ito
[1:10:39] they
[1:10:40] follow
[1:10:40] a
[1:10:40] certain
[1:10:41] protocol
[1:10:42] may
[1:10:42] meron
[1:10:43] mga
[1:10:43] permits
[1:10:44] na
[1:10:45] ini-issue
[1:10:45] ang
[1:10:46] Department
[1:10:46] of
[1:10:46] Energy
[1:10:47] ang
[1:10:47] nuclear
[1:10:48] institutes
[1:10:49] natin
[1:10:50] yung
[1:10:50] hindi
[1:10:51] po
[1:10:51] nag
[1:10:52] follow
[1:10:53] ng
[1:10:53] protocol
[1:10:54] na yun
[1:10:54] tinitigil
[1:10:55] namin
[1:10:56] yung
[1:10:56] container
[1:10:57] at
[1:10:57] we
[1:10:57] consult
[1:10:58] on
[1:10:58] what
[1:10:58] to
[1:10:58] do
[1:10:58] with
[1:10:59] on
[1:10:59] the
[1:11:00] manner
[1:11:00] of
[1:11:00] disposal
[1:11:01] or
[1:11:01] how
[1:11:02] to
[1:11:02] handle
[1:11:02] these
[1:11:02] particular
[1:11:03] shipments
[1:11:04] Department
[1:11:06] of
[1:11:07] Energy
[1:11:07] Anong
[1:11:07] ginagawa
[1:11:08] ninyo
[1:11:08] pag
[1:11:08] tinawagan
[1:11:09] po
[1:11:09] meron
[1:11:10] kaming
[1:11:10] radioactive
[1:11:11] material
[1:11:12] or
[1:11:12] PNRI
[1:11:13] Mr.
[1:11:14] Chair
[1:11:14] ang
[1:11:15] agency
[1:11:16] na
[1:11:16] pinaflog
[1:11:17] pag
[1:11:17] radioactive
[1:11:17] material
[1:11:18] under
[1:11:18] the
[1:11:19] law
[1:11:19] is
[1:11:19] going
[1:11:19] to
[1:11:19] be
[1:11:20] PNRI
[1:11:20] po
[1:11:21] PNRI
[1:11:21] pnri
[1:11:21] pnri
[1:11:22] doctor
[1:11:22] director
[1:11:23] samson
[1:11:23] or
[1:11:24] buendia
[1:11:24] thank you
[1:11:25] Mr.
[1:11:26] chair
[1:11:26] chair
[1:11:26] actually
[1:11:27] po
[1:11:27] yung
[1:11:28] nakikita
[1:11:29] lang
[1:11:29] nila
[1:11:29] sa
[1:11:29] x-ray
[1:11:30] is
[1:11:30] either
[1:11:31] it's
[1:11:31] high
[1:11:31] density
[1:11:32] pag
[1:11:33] high
[1:11:33] density
[1:11:33] po
[1:11:34] hindi
[1:11:34] man
[1:11:35] nila
[1:11:35] masabi
[1:11:35] yan
[1:11:35] kung
[1:11:36] radioactive
[1:11:36] or
[1:11:37] not
[1:11:37] so
[1:11:38] pag
[1:11:39] may
[1:11:39] nakita
[1:11:39] lang
[1:11:40] sila
[1:11:40] na
[1:11:40] ganon
[1:11:40] pwede
[1:11:41] kasing
[1:11:42] hindi
[1:11:42] po
[1:11:42] siya
[1:11:42] radioactive
[1:11:43] eh
[1:11:44] hindi
[1:11:44] po
[1:11:45] alam
[1:11:45] kung
[1:11:45] how
[1:11:46] they
[1:11:46] will
[1:11:46] handle
[1:11:46] that
[1:11:47] but
[1:11:47] yung
[1:11:48] ibang
[1:11:48] importers
[1:11:49] po
[1:11:49] ay
[1:11:50] nagfa
[1:11:50] flag
[1:11:51] may
[1:11:51] tagging
[1:11:52] na
[1:11:52] ginagawa
[1:11:52] po
[1:11:56] yun po
[1:11:56] madedetermine
[1:11:57] nila
[1:11:57] but
[1:11:58] otherwise
[1:11:58] without
[1:11:59] the
[1:12:00] radiation
[1:12:02] machine
[1:12:03] hindi
[1:12:04] po yan
[1:12:04] madedetect
[1:12:05] talaga po
[1:12:06] Mr. Chair
[1:12:10] sana po
[1:12:11] magpakwento
[1:12:13] kayo
[1:12:14] sa PNRI
[1:12:15] kay
[1:12:16] Professor
[1:12:17] Arcilia
[1:12:18] kasi
[1:12:18] kariretire
[1:12:19] lang niya
[1:12:20] as
[1:12:20] said
[1:12:20] doon
[1:12:22] sa mga
[1:12:22] kaso
[1:12:23] recent
[1:12:24] case
[1:12:25] ng
[1:12:26] pag
[1:12:28] export
[1:12:28] po
[1:12:29] natin
[1:12:29] ng
[1:12:30] zinc
[1:12:30] dust
[1:12:31] sa
[1:12:32] Indonesia
[1:12:32] dalawampung
[1:12:35] container
[1:12:35] na
[1:12:37] re-eject
[1:12:38] ng
[1:12:40] Indonesian
[1:12:41] customs
[1:12:42] dahil
[1:12:42] nakadetect
[1:12:43] po sila
[1:12:44] ng
[1:12:45] radiation
[1:12:45] at
[1:12:47] pinabalik
[1:12:47] sa
[1:12:48] Pilipinas
[1:12:48] hindi
[1:12:50] po
[1:12:50] nahuli
[1:12:50] ng
[1:12:51] mga
[1:12:53] detector
[1:12:54] natin
[1:12:55] sa mga
[1:12:55] port
[1:12:56] po
[1:12:56] natin
[1:12:57] dahil
[1:12:58] sira
[1:13:00] po
[1:13:00] ang
[1:13:01] ating
[1:13:01] mga
[1:13:02] detector
[1:13:02] doon
[1:13:04] mismo
[1:13:05] sa
[1:13:05] anong
[1:13:08] pangalan
[1:13:09] ng
[1:13:09] steel
[1:13:09] company
[1:13:10] nagtutunaw
[1:13:11] po sila
[1:13:12] ng mga
[1:13:13] junk
[1:13:14] na
[1:13:15] yero
[1:13:15] na
[1:13:16] meron
[1:13:17] pong
[1:13:17] zinc
[1:13:18] kaya
[1:13:20] may
[1:13:20] zinc
[1:13:21] dust
[1:13:21] po
[1:13:22] doon
[1:13:22] and
[1:13:23] siguro
[1:13:24] nagtunaw
[1:13:25] po sila
[1:13:26] ng
[1:13:26] isang
[1:13:27] used
[1:13:28] medical
[1:13:28] device
[1:13:29] or
[1:13:29] industrial
[1:13:30] device
[1:13:31] na
[1:13:32] may
[1:13:32] cesium
[1:13:33] 137
[1:13:34] na
[1:13:35] sumama
[1:13:35] at
[1:13:35] nag
[1:13:36] contaminate
[1:13:37] po
[1:13:37] doon
[1:13:38] sa
[1:13:39] zinc
[1:13:39] dust
[1:13:40] so
[1:13:41] hindi
[1:13:42] naman
[1:13:42] nakakasakit
[1:13:43] yung
[1:13:44] level
[1:13:45] ng
[1:13:45] radiation
[1:13:46] pero
[1:13:48] nakukuha
[1:13:49] sa
[1:13:49] reading
[1:13:50] so
[1:13:51] dapat
[1:13:52] makialam
[1:13:55] ang
[1:13:55] mga
[1:13:56] otoridad
[1:13:56] so
[1:13:58] yun po
[1:13:58] that's
[1:14:00] the first
[1:14:00] my first
[1:14:01] point
[1:14:01] second
[1:14:04] point
[1:14:05] dapat
[1:14:05] i-explain
[1:14:07] ng
[1:14:07] PNRI
[1:14:08] at
[1:14:08] ng
[1:14:09] DOST
[1:14:09] at
[1:14:10] ng
[1:14:11] DOE
[1:14:11] kung
[1:14:12] ano
[1:14:13] ang
[1:14:13] norm
[1:14:14] NORM
[1:14:16] normally
[1:14:17] occurring
[1:14:22] radioactive
[1:14:23] material
[1:14:24] example
[1:14:25] po
[1:14:26] kung
[1:14:27] meron
[1:14:28] po
[1:14:28] akong
[1:14:28] isang
[1:14:29] sakong
[1:14:29] potassium
[1:14:31] chloride
[1:14:32] na
[1:14:32] fertilizer
[1:14:33] dito
[1:14:33] at
[1:14:34] binasa
[1:14:35] ko
[1:14:35] po
[1:14:35] ng
[1:14:36] Geiger
[1:14:37] counter
[1:14:37] pipitik
[1:14:38] na
[1:14:38] gusto
[1:14:39] yung
[1:14:39] Geiger
[1:14:40] counter
[1:14:40] high
[1:14:41] level
[1:14:42] gamma
[1:14:43] radiation
[1:14:43] po
[1:14:44] yun
[1:14:44] so
[1:14:45] kung
[1:14:46] hindi
[1:14:46] nyo
[1:14:46] po
[1:14:46] naintindihan
[1:14:48] yung
[1:14:48] konteksto
[1:14:49] maaalarman
[1:14:51] na po
[1:14:51] tayong
[1:14:52] lahat
[1:14:52] and
[1:14:53] that's
[1:14:53] the
[1:14:54] problem
[1:14:54] with
[1:14:55] the
[1:14:55] perception
[1:14:56] of
[1:14:56] danger
[1:14:57] there
[1:14:57] is
[1:14:58] no
[1:14:58] context
[1:14:59] so
[1:15:00] dapat
[1:15:01] ang
[1:15:01] ating
[1:15:02] mga
[1:15:02] agencies
[1:15:03] will
[1:15:05] none
[1:15:07] of
[1:15:07] you
[1:15:07] here
[1:15:07] seem
[1:15:08] to
[1:15:09] be
[1:15:09] familiar
[1:15:09] and
[1:15:11] are
[1:15:11] not
[1:15:12] explaining
[1:15:13] norm
[1:15:14] to
[1:15:14] the
[1:15:15] general
[1:15:15] public
[1:15:16] yun
[1:15:17] po
[1:15:17] ang
[1:15:17] aking
[1:15:18] komento
[1:15:18] Mr.
[1:15:19] Chair
[1:15:19] Thank
[1:15:23] you
[1:15:23] Mr.
[1:15:24] Chairman
[1:15:24] I just
[1:15:26] want
[1:15:26] to
[1:15:26] ask
[1:15:27] the
[1:15:27] conventions
[1:15:30] these
[1:15:31] are
[1:15:31] binding
[1:15:32] conventions
[1:15:32] right
[1:15:33] yes
[1:15:36] editor
[1:15:36] and
[1:15:37] then
[1:15:37] what
[1:15:38] are
[1:15:38] the
[1:15:38] penalties
[1:15:39] if
[1:15:39] ever
[1:15:39] our
[1:15:39] country
[1:15:40] will
[1:15:41] not
[1:15:41] adhere
[1:15:43] to
[1:15:43] the
[1:15:44] terms
[1:15:44] and
[1:15:45] the
[1:15:45] provisions
[1:15:45] of
[1:15:46] the
[1:15:46] conventions
[1:15:47] may
[1:15:47] mga
[1:15:48] penalties
[1:15:48] ba
[1:15:48] for
[1:15:50] this
[1:15:50] four
[1:15:50] actually
[1:15:58] sir
[1:15:58] I
[1:15:58] would
[1:15:58] say
[1:15:59] it
[1:15:59] would
[1:15:59] be
[1:15:59] more
[1:15:59] reputational
[1:16:01] risk
[1:16:01] punitive
[1:16:03] action
[1:16:03] it's
[1:16:04] there's
[1:16:05] just
[1:16:05] as
[1:16:05] mentioned
[1:16:06] by
[1:16:06] DOE
[1:16:06] may
[1:16:06] mga
[1:16:07] peer
[1:16:07] reviews
[1:16:07] so
[1:16:08] it
[1:16:08] will
[1:16:08] really
[1:16:09] be
[1:16:09] a
[1:16:09] gauge
[1:16:09] to
[1:16:09] our
[1:16:10] compliance
[1:16:11] with
[1:16:11] the
[1:16:11] commitments
[1:16:12] but
[1:16:12] once
[1:16:13] we
[1:16:13] access
[1:16:13] to
[1:16:13] this
[1:16:14] we
[1:16:15] are
[1:16:15] bound
[1:16:15] by
[1:16:15] the
[1:16:15] commitments
[1:16:16] Mr.
[1:16:17] Chair
[1:16:18] if I
[1:16:19] may
[1:16:19] meron
[1:16:20] pong
[1:16:21] ibang
[1:16:21] implication
[1:16:22] po
[1:16:22] jurisdiction
[1:16:24] sa
[1:16:25] court
[1:16:26] case
[1:16:26] right
[1:16:27] with
[1:16:27] these
[1:16:28] conventions
[1:16:28] the
[1:16:30] jurisdictions
[1:16:31] of
[1:16:32] where
[1:16:32] you
[1:16:32] can
[1:16:32] file
[1:16:33] court
[1:16:33] cases
[1:16:34] are
[1:16:34] defined
[1:16:35] I'm
[1:16:36] not
[1:16:36] the
[1:16:36] expert
[1:16:36] but
[1:16:37] those
[1:16:38] are
[1:16:38] one
[1:16:38] of
[1:16:38] the
[1:16:39] big
[1:16:39] implications
[1:16:40] my
[1:16:43] next
[1:16:43] question
[1:16:43] how
[1:16:44] mediation
[1:16:48] I
[1:16:49] heard
[1:16:51] earlier
[1:16:51] investors
[1:16:53] will
[1:16:54] have the
[1:16:56] confidence
[1:16:57] to invest
[1:16:57] in our
[1:16:58] country
[1:16:58] that's
[1:16:59] good
[1:16:59] but
[1:17:00] there
[1:17:00] are
[1:17:01] commitments
[1:17:01] that we
[1:17:02] need to
[1:17:02] fulfill
[1:17:03] and
[1:17:03] we
[1:17:04] should
[1:17:04] also
[1:17:05] adhere
[1:17:06] to
[1:17:06] the
[1:17:06] conventions
[1:17:07] paano
[1:17:08] kung
[1:17:08] hindi
[1:17:09] tayo
[1:17:09] sumunod
[1:17:09] or
[1:17:10] paano
[1:17:10] if
[1:17:10] our
[1:17:11] laws
[1:17:11] does
[1:17:13] not
[1:17:13] confirm
[1:17:13] with
[1:17:15] the
[1:17:15] convention
[1:17:16] ano
[1:17:16] ba
[1:17:16] yung
[1:17:16] meron
[1:17:18] bang
[1:17:18] mediation
[1:17:20] mechanism
[1:17:20] sabi
[1:17:21] nga
[1:17:21] ni
[1:17:21] kung
[1:17:21] mark
[1:17:22] meron
[1:17:22] bang
[1:17:23] mediation
[1:17:25] meron
[1:17:27] bang
[1:17:27] jurisdictional
[1:17:29] anong
[1:17:30] jurisdiction
[1:17:31] gagawin
[1:17:31] yun
[1:17:32] so
[1:17:34] may
[1:17:34] we
[1:17:34] get
[1:17:34] from
[1:17:35] DFA
[1:17:35] those
[1:17:37] basic
[1:17:37] questions
[1:17:38] lang
[1:17:38] to
[1:17:38] so
[1:17:38] that
[1:17:39] the
[1:17:39] public
[1:17:39] will
[1:17:40] understand
[1:17:40] and
[1:17:40] we
[1:17:41] will
[1:17:41] also
[1:17:41] understand
[1:17:41] go
[1:17:45] ahead
[1:17:45] yes
[1:17:45] director
[1:17:46] manantan
[1:17:50] thank you
[1:17:53] mr.
[1:17:53] chair
[1:17:53] on the
[1:17:55] specific
[1:17:55] issue
[1:17:56] of
[1:17:56] courts
[1:17:57] and
[1:17:57] their
[1:17:57] jurisdiction
[1:17:58] sir
[1:17:58] it
[1:17:58] depends
[1:17:58] on
[1:17:59] which
[1:17:59] convention
[1:18:00] because
[1:18:01] among
[1:18:01] these
[1:18:01] four
[1:18:01] two
[1:18:03] are
[1:18:03] liability
[1:18:03] conventions
[1:18:04] which
[1:18:04] are
[1:18:05] of course
[1:18:05] the
[1:18:05] Vienna
[1:18:05] Protocol
[1:18:06] and
[1:18:06] the
[1:18:06] CSC
[1:18:09] and then
[1:18:10] the
[1:18:10] other
[1:18:10] two
[1:18:10] are
[1:18:11] the
[1:18:11] safety
[1:18:11] or
[1:18:12] the
[1:18:12] benefits
[1:18:12] convention
[1:18:13] in the
[1:18:13] nature
[1:18:13] of
[1:18:14] benefits
[1:18:14] convention
[1:18:14] on
[1:18:15] the
[1:18:15] two
[1:18:16] benefits
[1:18:16] conventions
[1:18:17] sir
[1:18:17] the
[1:18:17] CNS
[1:18:18] and
[1:18:18] the
[1:18:18] joint
[1:18:18] convention
[1:18:19] they are
[1:18:19] really
[1:18:20] about
[1:18:20] compliance
[1:18:20] with
[1:18:21] standards
[1:18:21] and
[1:18:22] there
[1:18:23] is
[1:18:23] in
[1:18:23] terms
[1:18:24] of
[1:18:24] the
[1:18:24] previous
[1:18:24] question
[1:18:25] sir
[1:18:25] on
[1:18:25] whether
[1:18:25] there
[1:18:26] are
[1:18:26] penalties
[1:18:26] involved
[1:18:27] for
[1:18:27] non-compliance
[1:18:29] strictly
[1:18:30] speaking
[1:18:31] there
[1:18:31] isn't
[1:18:31] a
[1:18:32] penalty
[1:18:32] these
[1:18:33] two
[1:18:33] treaties
[1:18:33] operate
[1:18:34] on a
[1:18:34] peer
[1:18:34] review
[1:18:35] basis
[1:18:35] so
[1:18:36] basically
[1:18:36] it
[1:18:36] is
[1:18:37] about
[1:18:37] us
[1:18:37] being
[1:18:37] able
[1:18:38] to
[1:18:38] access
[1:18:38] the
[1:18:39] expertise
[1:18:39] as
[1:18:40] mentioned
[1:18:40] by our
[1:18:40] colleagues
[1:18:41] in the
[1:18:41] DOE
[1:18:41] expertise
[1:18:42] and
[1:18:43] experience
[1:18:43] of
[1:18:43] other
[1:18:44] states
[1:18:44] parties
[1:18:44] and
[1:18:44] really
[1:18:45] exchanging
[1:18:45] best
[1:18:46] practices
[1:18:46] so
[1:18:46] that
[1:18:47] we
[1:18:47] can
[1:18:47] continually
[1:18:47] improve
[1:18:48] our
[1:18:49] own
[1:18:49] domestic
[1:18:49] standards
[1:18:50] and
[1:18:50] safeguards
[1:18:52] with respect
[1:18:53] to the
[1:18:53] other two
[1:18:53] sir
[1:18:54] the
[1:18:54] CSC
[1:18:55] and
[1:18:55] particularly
[1:18:56] the
[1:18:56] CSC
[1:18:57] there is
[1:18:57] here
[1:18:57] as
[1:18:58] mentioned
[1:18:58] by
[1:18:58] Congressman
[1:18:59] Cuangco
[1:19:00] the issue
[1:19:00] of
[1:19:01] jurisdiction
[1:19:01] and
[1:19:02] in fact
[1:19:03] that is
[1:19:04] perhaps
[1:19:04] one of
[1:19:05] its
[1:19:05] benefits
[1:19:06] as well
[1:19:06] because
[1:19:07] it
[1:19:08] confers
[1:19:09] jurisdiction
[1:19:09] to the
[1:19:11] contracting
[1:19:12] state
[1:19:12] where the
[1:19:13] nuclear
[1:19:14] incident
[1:19:14] takes
[1:19:15] place
[1:19:15] so
[1:19:16] claims
[1:19:16] for
[1:19:17] example
[1:19:17] in
[1:19:18] cases
[1:19:18] of
[1:19:18] nuclear
[1:19:18] damage
[1:19:19] Yunpong
[1:19:20] state
[1:19:21] assuming
[1:19:21] that
[1:19:22] that
[1:19:22] state
[1:19:22] is a
[1:19:22] contracting
[1:19:23] state
[1:19:23] where
[1:19:24] the
[1:19:24] nuclear
[1:19:24] incident
[1:19:25] occurs
[1:19:25] that
[1:19:26] contracting
[1:19:27] state
[1:19:28] its
[1:19:28] courts
[1:19:28] will have
[1:19:29] jurisdiction
[1:19:29] over
[1:19:30] claims
[1:19:30] for
[1:19:30] damage
[1:19:31] so
[1:19:31] that
[1:19:31] is
[1:19:31] one
[1:19:32] benefit
[1:19:32] sir
[1:19:32] for
[1:19:33] why
[1:19:33] it
[1:19:34] is
[1:19:34] beneficial
[1:19:35] for
[1:19:35] us
[1:19:35] to be
[1:19:36] a
[1:19:36] contracting
[1:19:37] state
[1:19:37] and
[1:19:38] the
[1:19:39] alternate
[1:19:39] scenario
[1:19:40] is
[1:19:41] for that
[1:19:41] jurisdiction
[1:19:42] to be
[1:19:42] in the
[1:19:42] installation
[1:19:43] state
[1:19:43] so
[1:19:44] in
[1:19:44] the
[1:19:44] CSE
[1:19:45] that
[1:19:45] is
[1:19:45] not
[1:19:45] the
[1:19:46] case
[1:19:46] the
[1:19:46] jurisdiction
[1:19:47] lies
[1:19:47] in
[1:19:48] the
[1:19:48] courts
[1:19:49] of
[1:19:49] the
[1:19:49] contracting
[1:19:50] state
[1:19:51] party
[1:19:51] where
[1:19:52] the
[1:19:52] nuclear
[1:19:52] incident
[1:19:53] takes
[1:19:53] place
[1:19:53] and
[1:19:54] as
[1:19:54] an
[1:19:54] archipelagic
[1:19:55] state
[1:19:55] as
[1:19:56] a
[1:19:56] coastal
[1:19:56] state
[1:19:57] there
[1:19:58] is
[1:19:58] a
[1:19:58] provision
[1:19:59] in
[1:19:59] the
[1:20:00] treaty
[1:20:00] that
[1:20:00] provides
[1:20:01] for
[1:20:01] instances
[1:20:02] where
[1:20:03] the
[1:20:03] damage
[1:20:04] takes
[1:20:04] place
[1:20:05] even
[1:20:07] beyond
[1:20:08] our
[1:20:09] maritime
[1:20:09] zones
[1:20:10] as
[1:20:11] long
[1:20:11] as
[1:20:11] certain
[1:20:12] jurisdictional
[1:20:14] requirements
[1:20:14] are complied
[1:20:15] with
[1:20:15] and
[1:20:15] there's
[1:20:15] also
[1:20:15] the
[1:20:16] scenario
[1:20:16] where
[1:20:16] cases
[1:20:18] where
[1:20:18] the
[1:20:18] nuclear
[1:20:18] incident
[1:20:19] takes
[1:20:20] place
[1:20:20] in
[1:20:21] our
[1:20:21] EZ
[1:20:21] or
[1:20:22] even
[1:20:22] in
[1:20:22] our
[1:20:22] continental
[1:20:23] shelf
[1:20:23] so
[1:20:24] also
[1:20:24] given
[1:20:24] certain
[1:20:25] compliance
[1:20:25] with
[1:20:26] certain
[1:20:26] jurisdictional
[1:20:26] requirements
[1:20:27] our
[1:20:28] courts
[1:20:28] can also
[1:20:29] take
[1:20:29] cognizance
[1:20:29] over
[1:20:30] those
[1:20:30] claims
[1:20:31] for
[1:20:31] liability
[1:20:32] mr
[1:20:32] chair
[1:20:33] mr
[1:20:34] senator
[1:20:34] i like
[1:20:37] the way
[1:20:37] she
[1:20:38] has
[1:20:38] studied
[1:20:39] and
[1:20:40] explained
[1:20:41] the
[1:20:44] question
[1:20:44] sanapo
[1:20:46] you can
[1:20:47] do the
[1:20:47] same
[1:20:47] for
[1:20:48] the
[1:20:48] joint
[1:20:48] protocol
[1:20:49] can
[1:20:49] you
[1:20:50] do
[1:20:50] it
[1:20:50] do
[1:20:50] you
[1:20:50] know
[1:20:51] it
[1:20:51] okay
[1:20:55] anyway
[1:20:59] mr
[1:20:59] mr
[1:21:00] chair
[1:21:00] i'm
[1:21:01] pleased
[1:21:01] with
[1:21:02] the
[1:21:02] way
[1:21:02] she
[1:21:03] comprehends
[1:21:04] and
[1:21:05] explains
[1:21:06] why
[1:21:07] these
[1:21:08] conventions
[1:21:09] are
[1:21:10] beneficial
[1:21:10] for
[1:21:11] the
[1:21:11] philippines
[1:21:11] but
[1:21:13] sana
[1:21:13] mapag
[1:21:14] aralan
[1:21:14] din
[1:21:14] ang
[1:21:15] implication
[1:21:17] ng
[1:21:17] joint
[1:21:17] protocol
[1:21:18] because
[1:21:19] not
[1:21:21] everybody
[1:21:22] is
[1:21:22] assignatory
[1:21:23] to
[1:21:24] the
[1:21:24] paris
[1:21:24] convention
[1:21:25] right
[1:21:26] it's
[1:21:27] not
[1:21:27] listed
[1:21:28] in
[1:21:28] the
[1:21:28] four
[1:21:28] but
[1:21:29] all
[1:21:29] the
[1:21:30] european
[1:21:31] nuclear
[1:21:32] players
[1:21:33] vendors
[1:21:34] users
[1:21:35] are
[1:21:36] signatories
[1:21:37] of
[1:21:37] the
[1:21:38] paris
[1:21:38] protocol
[1:21:40] tayo
[1:21:41] we
[1:21:41] are
[1:21:42] vienna
[1:21:43] convention
[1:21:44] and
[1:21:44] csc
[1:21:45] so
[1:21:46] papanong
[1:21:47] i-reconcile
[1:21:48] yung
[1:21:49] dalawa
[1:21:49] yung
[1:21:50] po
[1:21:50] yung
[1:21:51] joint
[1:21:51] protocol
[1:21:52] thank
[1:21:54] you
[1:21:54] mr
[1:21:54] chair
[1:21:54] go
[1:21:57] go
[1:21:57] ahead
[1:21:57] as
[1:21:57] senator
[1:21:59] just
[1:22:00] to
[1:22:00] because
[1:22:00] we
[1:22:01] have
[1:22:01] already
[1:22:01] touched
[1:22:01] on
[1:22:02] the
[1:22:02] importance
[1:22:02] as
[1:22:04] postal
[1:22:04] state
[1:22:04] to
[1:22:05] these
[1:22:09] conventions
[1:22:10] because
[1:22:10] we are
[1:22:10] exposed
[1:22:11] to
[1:22:11] transboundary
[1:22:12] nuclear
[1:22:12] risk
[1:22:13] we may
[1:22:13] be
[1:22:13] exposed
[1:22:14] to
[1:22:14] transboundary
[1:22:15] nuclear
[1:22:15] risk
[1:22:16] such as
[1:22:17] possible
[1:22:17] radioactive
[1:22:18] releases
[1:22:18] from
[1:22:19] accidents
[1:22:20] in
[1:22:20] nearby
[1:22:20] plants
[1:22:21] in the
[1:22:21] region
[1:22:22] so
[1:22:22] hindi
[1:22:22] sa
[1:22:22] atin
[1:22:22] in
[1:22:23] the
[1:22:23] region
[1:22:23] and
[1:22:24] this
[1:22:24] could
[1:22:24] be
[1:22:24] carried
[1:22:26] by
[1:22:26] prevailing
[1:22:26] winds
[1:22:27] or
[1:22:27] ocean
[1:22:27] currents
[1:22:28] into
[1:22:29] the
[1:22:29] Philippine
[1:22:29] waters
[1:22:30] is
[1:22:30] the
[1:22:31] contamination
[1:22:31] of
[1:22:31] our
[1:22:31] fisheries
[1:22:32] in
[1:22:34] the
[1:22:34] West
[1:22:34] Philippine
[1:22:34] Sea
[1:22:34] Pacific
[1:22:35] Seaboard
[1:22:35] and
[1:22:36] of
[1:22:36] course
[1:22:36] the
[1:22:36] impacts
[1:22:36] on
[1:22:37] food
[1:22:37] security
[1:22:37] livelihoods
[1:22:38] tourism
[1:22:38] and
[1:22:38] public
[1:22:39] health
[1:22:39] that
[1:22:39] we
[1:22:41] would
[1:22:41] like
[1:22:41] to
[1:22:41] highlight
[1:22:42] in
[1:22:42] the
[1:22:42] discussions
[1:22:43] on
[1:22:43] this
[1:22:43] on
[1:22:43] the
[1:22:43] importance
[1:22:44] of
[1:22:44] acceding
[1:22:44] to
[1:22:44] these
[1:22:45] conventions
[1:22:45] I'm
[1:22:46] about
[1:22:46] understanding
[1:22:46] that
[1:22:47] even
[1:22:48] though
[1:22:48] we
[1:22:48] don't
[1:22:49] have
[1:22:49] a
[1:22:49] nuclear
[1:22:49] power
[1:22:50] plant
[1:22:50] but
[1:22:51] let's
[1:22:51] say
[1:22:51] Taiwan
[1:22:52] has
[1:22:52] a
[1:22:52] nuclear
[1:22:52] power
[1:22:53] plant
[1:22:53] which
[1:22:53] is
[1:22:54] very
[1:22:54] near
[1:22:54] I'm
[1:22:58] not
[1:22:58] saying
[1:22:58] there
[1:22:58] but
[1:22:59] this
[1:23:00] joint
[1:23:01] convention
[1:23:02] or the
[1:23:02] conventions
[1:23:02] that we
[1:23:03] are
[1:23:03] talking
[1:23:04] about
[1:23:04] can
[1:23:04] be
[1:23:05] enforced
[1:23:05] in
[1:23:06] order
[1:23:06] to
[1:23:07] protect
[1:23:07] our
[1:23:07] interest
[1:23:08] especially
[1:23:09] on
[1:23:10] nuclear
[1:23:12] damage
[1:23:12] liability
[1:23:13] for
[1:23:13] nuclear
[1:23:14] damage
[1:23:14] compensation
[1:23:17] for
[1:23:17] nuclear
[1:23:17] damage
[1:23:18] right
[1:23:19] understanding
[1:23:19] contracting
[1:23:20] party
[1:23:20] contracting
[1:23:21] party
[1:23:22] contracting
[1:23:23] party
[1:23:23] ng
[1:23:23] convention
[1:23:24] or contracting
[1:23:25] party
[1:23:26] ng
[1:23:26] planta
[1:23:27] convention
[1:23:28] so
[1:23:32] ibig
[1:23:32] sabihin
[1:23:33] may
[1:23:33] nangyari
[1:23:34] sa
[1:23:34] Taiwan
[1:23:34] malapit
[1:23:35] lang
[1:23:36] sa
[1:23:36] atin
[1:23:36] yan
[1:23:36] Japan
[1:23:39] Korea
[1:23:40] and
[1:23:41] then
[1:23:42] yung
[1:23:43] umabot
[1:23:45] sa atin
[1:23:46] yung
[1:23:46] radiation
[1:23:46] or
[1:23:47] umabot
[1:23:47] sa atin
[1:23:47] yung
[1:23:48] problema
[1:23:48] can
[1:23:49] we
[1:23:49] use
[1:23:50] this
[1:23:50] convention
[1:23:51] to
[1:23:51] get
[1:23:53] support
[1:23:54] protect
[1:23:55] our
[1:23:55] interest
[1:23:56] compensate
[1:23:57] our
[1:23:57] constituents
[1:23:58] sir
[1:24:01] and
[1:24:02] i hear
[1:24:02] that
[1:24:02] both
[1:24:02] have
[1:24:03] to
[1:24:03] be
[1:24:03] contracting
[1:24:04] parties
[1:24:04] so
[1:24:05] kung
[1:24:05] sa
[1:24:05] nangyari
[1:24:05] nung
[1:24:06] nuclear
[1:24:06] incident
[1:24:06] so
[1:24:06] i'm
[1:24:07] hearing
[1:24:07] now
[1:24:07] from
[1:24:07] my
[1:24:08] colleague
[1:24:08] that
[1:24:08] Taiwan
[1:24:08] is
[1:24:08] not
[1:24:09] a
[1:24:09] contracting
[1:24:09] party
[1:24:09] so
[1:24:10] tayo
[1:24:11] if
[1:24:12] Taiwan
[1:24:13] as an
[1:24:14] example
[1:24:14] but
[1:24:15] yes
[1:24:16] sir
[1:24:16] there
[1:24:16] are
[1:24:17] stipulations
[1:24:17] in
[1:24:17] the
[1:24:17] convention
[1:24:18] that
[1:24:18] we
[1:24:18] can
[1:24:18] invoke
[1:24:19] as
[1:24:19] a
[1:24:19] contracting
[1:24:19] party
[1:24:19] so
[1:24:19] even
[1:24:20] though
[1:24:20] we
[1:24:20] don't
[1:24:20] have
[1:24:21] a
[1:24:21] nuclear
[1:24:21] power
[1:24:22] plant
[1:24:22] we
[1:24:22] can
[1:24:22] enforce
[1:24:23] it
[1:24:23] but
[1:24:24] the
[1:24:25] two
[1:24:25] parties
[1:24:25] should
[1:24:25] be
[1:24:26] contracting
[1:24:27] parties
[1:24:27] yes
[1:24:29] i think
[1:24:30] dr
[1:24:31] arcilia
[1:24:32] would like
[1:24:33] to
[1:24:33] comment
[1:24:35] just
[1:24:36] to clarify
[1:24:37] some points
[1:24:37] first
[1:24:37] regarding
[1:24:38] jurisdiction
[1:24:38] the
[1:24:39] CSC
[1:24:40] mandates
[1:24:41] that
[1:24:42] the
[1:24:43] litigations
[1:24:46] should happen
[1:24:47] in the
[1:24:47] place
[1:24:48] where the
[1:24:48] accident
[1:24:49] occurred
[1:24:49] a very
[1:24:51] good
[1:24:51] illustration
[1:24:51] of this
[1:24:52] is in
[1:24:52] the
[1:24:52] Fukushima
[1:24:53] accident
[1:24:53] in the
[1:24:54] Fukushima
[1:24:55] accident
[1:24:55] the
[1:24:56] nuclear
[1:24:58] plant
[1:24:58] had
[1:24:59] some
[1:24:59] parts
[1:25:01] made
[1:25:01] in the
[1:25:01] US
[1:25:02] so
[1:25:03] some
[1:25:03] of
[1:25:03] the
[1:25:04] litigators
[1:25:04] went
[1:25:04] to
[1:25:05] the
[1:25:05] US
[1:25:05] to
[1:25:05] sue
[1:25:06] they
[1:25:07] sought
[1:25:09] refuge
[1:25:10] there
[1:25:10] after
[1:25:10] 10
[1:25:10] years
[1:25:11] of
[1:25:11] litigating
[1:25:11] sabi
[1:25:11] ng
[1:25:12] US
[1:25:12] courts
[1:25:12] balik
[1:25:13] kayo
[1:25:13] sa
[1:25:14] Japan
[1:25:15] so
[1:25:15] ang
[1:25:16] kumita
[1:25:16] lang
[1:25:16] mga
[1:25:16] abogado
[1:25:17] sorry
[1:25:18] pero
[1:25:19] this
[1:25:20] one
[1:25:20] says
[1:25:21] lahat
[1:25:21] ng
[1:25:21] litigation
[1:25:21] should
[1:25:22] be
[1:25:22] done
[1:25:22] in
[1:25:22] the
[1:25:23] country
[1:25:23] so
[1:25:24] that's
[1:25:24] the
[1:25:24] first
[1:25:24] the
[1:25:25] number
[1:25:25] two
[1:25:26] the
[1:25:26] payment
[1:25:27] to
[1:25:27] the
[1:25:27] to
[1:25:28] the
[1:25:28] victims
[1:25:29] need
[1:25:29] not
[1:25:30] pass
[1:25:30] litigation
[1:25:30] babayaran
[1:25:31] sila
[1:25:31] automatically
[1:25:32] so
[1:25:34] this
[1:25:34] is a
[1:25:34] very
[1:25:34] important
[1:25:35] consideration
[1:25:35] for
[1:25:36] bayad
[1:25:37] agad
[1:25:37] wala
[1:25:38] wala
[1:25:39] nang
[1:25:40] tapos
[1:25:41] pangatlo
[1:25:41] for
[1:25:43] example
[1:25:44] tama
[1:25:44] po
[1:25:44] kayo
[1:25:45] let's
[1:25:45] say
[1:25:46] wala
[1:25:46] pa tayong
[1:25:46] nuclear
[1:25:46] plant
[1:25:47] nagkaroon
[1:25:47] ng
[1:25:47] accident
[1:25:47] sa
[1:25:48] Taiwan
[1:25:49] or
[1:25:49] sa
[1:25:49] China
[1:25:49] lang
[1:25:50] marami
[1:25:50] we
[1:25:51] can
[1:25:51] still
[1:25:52] because
[1:25:53] China
[1:25:53] if I'm not
[1:25:53] mistaken
[1:25:54] is
[1:25:54] CSC
[1:25:56] I think
[1:25:57] CSC
[1:25:57] compliant
[1:25:57] na si
[1:25:58] China
[1:25:58] or
[1:25:59] maybe
[1:25:59] not yet
[1:26:00] but
[1:26:01] anyway
[1:26:01] you
[1:26:01] can
[1:26:01] that's
[1:26:02] the
[1:26:02] advantage
[1:26:03] po
[1:26:03] of
[1:26:03] these
[1:26:03] conventions
[1:26:04] is
[1:26:05] that
[1:26:05] even
[1:26:05] if
[1:26:06] that is
[1:26:06] precisely
[1:26:07] why
[1:26:07] there are
[1:26:08] not too
[1:26:08] many
[1:26:08] countries
[1:26:09] that are
[1:26:09] nuclear
[1:26:10] now
[1:26:10] if
[1:26:11] they
[1:26:11] accede
[1:26:12] to this
[1:26:12] they
[1:26:13] can
[1:26:13] be
[1:26:13] protected
[1:26:14] and
[1:26:14] also
[1:26:15] for
[1:26:15] if
[1:26:16] I'm
[1:26:16] a
[1:26:16] nuclear
[1:26:16] company
[1:26:17] no
[1:26:18] company
[1:26:18] can
[1:26:19] survive
[1:26:19] an
[1:26:19] accident
[1:26:20] so
[1:26:21] that's
[1:26:21] why
[1:26:22] they
[1:26:22] will
[1:26:22] want
[1:26:22] sovereign
[1:26:23] guarantees
[1:26:24] but
[1:26:25] the
[1:26:25] CSC
[1:26:26] provides
[1:26:26] additional
[1:26:27] protection
[1:26:28] for
[1:26:28] them
[1:26:28] so
[1:26:29] if
[1:26:29] I'm
[1:26:29] a
[1:26:29] nuclear
[1:26:29] vendor
[1:26:30] I
[1:26:31] would
[1:26:31] like
[1:26:31] the
[1:26:31] country
[1:26:32] where
[1:26:32] I'm
[1:26:32] selling
[1:26:33] to
[1:26:33] have
[1:26:33] the
[1:26:33] CSC
[1:26:34] accession
[1:26:34] because
[1:26:36] it
[1:26:36] adds
[1:26:36] protection
[1:26:37] not
[1:26:37] only
[1:26:39] also
[1:26:39] most
[1:26:39] specially
[1:26:40] for
[1:26:40] the
[1:26:40] residents
[1:26:41] po
[1:26:41] thank
[1:26:41] you
[1:26:42] po
[1:26:42] to
[1:26:44] the
[1:26:44] DFA
[1:26:45] again
[1:26:45] meron bang
[1:26:46] mga
[1:26:47] annual
[1:26:48] commitments
[1:26:49] itong
[1:26:49] mga
[1:26:49] convention
[1:26:50] as a
[1:26:51] contracting
[1:26:51] party
[1:26:51] let's
[1:26:52] say
[1:26:52] may
[1:26:52] membership
[1:26:52] fee
[1:26:53] merong
[1:26:54] meron
[1:26:55] ba
[1:26:55] just
[1:26:58] to
[1:26:58] be
[1:26:58] clear
[1:26:59] in
[1:26:59] fact
[1:26:59] Mr.
[1:27:00] Chair
[1:27:01] may
[1:27:02] website
[1:27:02] po
[1:27:03] ang
[1:27:03] CSC
[1:27:04] where
[1:27:05] you
[1:27:05] can
[1:27:06] input
[1:27:07] all
[1:27:08] the
[1:27:09] variables
[1:27:10] and
[1:27:11] makocompute
[1:27:14] yung
[1:27:14] premium
[1:27:16] at saka
[1:27:16] yung
[1:27:17] kailangan
[1:27:18] bayaran
[1:27:18] meron ba
[1:27:20] kayong
[1:27:20] computation
[1:27:21] on how
[1:27:22] much
[1:27:22] the
[1:27:22] country
[1:27:23] will
[1:27:23] spend
[1:27:24] or
[1:27:24] DOE
[1:27:25] or
[1:27:25] DFA
[1:27:26] or
[1:27:27] whoever
[1:27:27] how
[1:27:28] much
[1:27:28] ang
[1:27:29] siyempre
[1:27:29] kala
[1:27:30] ibudget
[1:27:30] natin
[1:27:30] to
[1:27:31] Mr.
[1:27:31] Chairman
[1:27:31] eh
[1:27:31] no
[1:27:32] pag
[1:27:32] kumerma
[1:27:32] tayo
[1:27:33] kala
[1:27:33] ko
[1:27:33] gratis
[1:27:34] eh
[1:27:34] hindi pala
[1:27:36] gratis
[1:27:37] for
[1:27:38] the
[1:27:38] benefits
[1:27:39] conventions
[1:27:39] which
[1:27:40] is
[1:27:40] the
[1:27:40] JNS
[1:27:41] as
[1:27:42] well
[1:27:42] as
[1:27:42] the
[1:27:42] joint
[1:27:42] convention
[1:27:43] on
[1:27:43] safety
[1:27:44] it's
[1:27:45] just
[1:27:45] going
[1:27:45] to
[1:27:46] the
[1:27:46] triennial
[1:27:48] annual
[1:27:48] convention
[1:27:49] so
[1:27:49] kailangan
[1:27:50] lang po
[1:27:50] natin
[1:27:50] gastusan
[1:27:51] yung
[1:27:51] mga
[1:27:51] pupunta
[1:27:52] don
[1:27:52] para
[1:27:52] umatend
[1:27:53] yun
[1:27:53] lang po
[1:27:54] yung
[1:27:54] gagastusan
[1:27:54] natin
[1:27:55] hindi
[1:27:55] po
[1:27:56] dapat
[1:27:57] junket
[1:27:57] because
[1:27:59] you are
[1:27:59] supposed
[1:28:00] to
[1:28:00] provide
[1:28:00] the
[1:28:01] national
[1:28:01] report
[1:28:02] and
[1:28:02] perform
[1:28:02] during
[1:28:03] the
[1:28:03] peer
[1:28:03] review
[1:28:04] process
[1:28:04] so
[1:28:04] yun
[1:28:05] lang po
[1:28:05] yung
[1:28:05] gastos
[1:28:06] para
[1:28:06] benefits
[1:28:07] regime
[1:28:08] now
[1:28:08] for
[1:28:09] the
[1:28:09] CSC
[1:28:10] for
[1:28:11] a
[1:28:11] country
[1:28:11] like
[1:28:12] us
[1:28:12] which
[1:28:12] has
[1:28:13] no
[1:28:13] nuclear
[1:28:13] power
[1:28:14] like
[1:28:14] zero
[1:28:15] nuclear
[1:28:16] power
[1:28:17] reactor
[1:28:18] we
[1:28:18] only
[1:28:18] need
[1:28:19] to
[1:28:19] spend
[1:28:20] like
[1:28:20] two
[1:28:21] thousand
[1:28:21] dollars
[1:28:22] two
[1:28:22] thousand
[1:28:23] dollars
[1:28:23] as
[1:28:24] a
[1:28:25] like
[1:28:25] a
[1:28:25] good
[1:28:25] standing
[1:28:26] good
[1:28:26] standing
[1:28:27] membership
[1:28:28] fee
[1:28:28] so
[1:28:28] it's
[1:28:28] only
[1:28:29] two
[1:28:29] thousand
[1:28:29] according
[1:28:30] to
[1:28:30] the
[1:28:30] calculation
[1:28:31] but
[1:28:32] another
[1:28:33] advantage
[1:28:33] also
[1:28:34] of
[1:28:34] the
[1:28:34] CSC
[1:28:35] is
[1:28:35] it
[1:28:35] has
[1:28:36] two
[1:28:36] tier
[1:28:37] benefit
[1:28:39] process
[1:28:40] for
[1:28:40] the
[1:28:41] country
[1:28:41] to
[1:28:41] comply
[1:28:42] yung
[1:28:42] tier
[1:28:42] one
[1:28:43] po
[1:28:43] is
[1:28:43] that
[1:28:44] the
[1:28:44] country
[1:28:45] needs
[1:28:45] to
[1:28:45] have
[1:28:46] a
[1:28:47] 300
[1:28:47] million
[1:28:48] SDR
[1:28:48] or
[1:28:49] around
[1:28:49] 450
[1:28:51] million
[1:28:51] US
[1:28:52] dollar
[1:28:52] na
[1:28:53] dapat
[1:28:54] ready
[1:28:55] in case
[1:28:55] there is
[1:28:56] an accident
[1:28:56] may
[1:28:57] may
[1:28:57] may
[1:28:57] yes
[1:28:58] but
[1:28:58] what
[1:29:00] do
[1:29:00] other
[1:29:00] countries
[1:29:01] do
[1:29:01] para
[1:29:02] makomply
[1:29:03] yung
[1:29:03] tier
[1:29:03] one
[1:29:03] they
[1:29:04] then
[1:29:04] ask
[1:29:05] their
[1:29:05] operators
[1:29:06] to
[1:29:07] have
[1:29:07] at least
[1:29:08] 450
[1:29:09] million
[1:29:10] dollars
[1:29:10] na
[1:29:11] insurance
[1:29:13] so
[1:29:13] yun
[1:29:13] po
[1:29:14] yung
[1:29:14] isang
[1:29:14] benefit
[1:29:14] po
[1:29:15] na
[1:29:15] yung
[1:29:15] country
[1:29:16] po
[1:29:16] ngayon
[1:29:16] ang
[1:29:17] magsasabi
[1:29:17] to
[1:29:18] its
[1:29:18] operator
[1:29:19] to
[1:29:19] the
[1:29:19] nuclear
[1:29:20] operator
[1:29:20] na
[1:29:20] you
[1:29:20] are
[1:29:21] required
[1:29:21] to
[1:29:21] have
[1:29:22] at
[1:29:22] least
[1:29:22] 450
[1:29:23] million
[1:29:24] US
[1:29:24] dollar
[1:29:25] insurance
[1:29:25] so
[1:29:26] meron
[1:29:26] po
[1:29:26] tayong
[1:29:26] advantage
[1:29:27] as a
[1:29:28] country
[1:29:28] na yung
[1:29:29] ating
[1:29:29] operator
[1:29:29] meron
[1:29:30] pong
[1:29:30] minimum
[1:29:31] na
[1:29:31] ganong
[1:29:31] kalaking
[1:29:32] insurance
[1:29:33] and
[1:29:33] then
[1:29:33] the
[1:29:33] tier
[1:29:33] two
[1:29:34] benefit
[1:29:34] of
[1:29:34] the
[1:29:34] CSE
[1:29:35] is
[1:29:35] yung
[1:29:35] international
[1:29:36] fund
[1:29:37] generated
[1:29:38] by
[1:29:38] all
[1:29:38] the
[1:29:39] countries
[1:29:39] who
[1:29:39] are
[1:29:40] contracting
[1:29:41] parties
[1:29:41] to
[1:29:41] the
[1:29:42] CSE
[1:29:42] magtutulong
[1:29:43] tulong
[1:29:44] po
[1:29:44] in case
[1:29:44] there
[1:29:44] is
[1:29:45] an
[1:29:45] accident
[1:29:46] merong
[1:29:46] additional
[1:29:47] to
[1:29:47] the
[1:29:48] 450
[1:29:48] million
[1:29:49] US
[1:29:49] dollar
[1:29:49] minimum
[1:29:50] na
[1:29:50] ipoprovide
[1:29:51] ng
[1:29:51] operator
[1:29:52] po
[1:29:52] Mr.
[1:29:54] Chair
[1:29:54] I'd just like
[1:29:55] to clarify
[1:29:55] that
[1:29:56] hindi
[1:29:56] yung
[1:29:59] country
[1:29:59] mismo
[1:30:00] ang
[1:30:00] magbabayad
[1:30:02] ng
[1:30:02] 300
[1:30:04] million
[1:30:04] SDRs
[1:30:05] ang
[1:30:06] operator
[1:30:07] bibili
[1:30:08] ng
[1:30:08] insurance
[1:30:09] ang
[1:30:10] halaga
[1:30:10] po
[1:30:11] ng
[1:30:11] insurance
[1:30:11] sa
[1:30:12] ngayon
[1:30:12] nasa
[1:30:12] mga
[1:30:12] around
[1:30:13] 1
[1:30:13] million
[1:30:14] dollars
[1:30:14] a
[1:30:15] year
[1:30:15] para
[1:30:16] magkaroon
[1:30:17] po
[1:30:17] siya
[1:30:17] ng
[1:30:18] 300
[1:30:18] million
[1:30:19] SDRs
[1:30:20] na
[1:30:20] cover
[1:30:21] insurance
[1:30:22] cover
[1:30:22] gustong
[1:30:26] gusto
[1:30:26] po
[1:30:26] ng
[1:30:26] insurance
[1:30:27] company
[1:30:28] kasi
[1:30:28] halos
[1:30:29] never
[1:30:30] po
[1:30:30] sila
[1:30:30] nagbabayad
[1:30:31] ng
[1:30:32] aksidente
[1:30:33] in fact
[1:30:34] yung
[1:30:35] Three Mile
[1:30:35] Island
[1:30:36] yung
[1:30:36] nangyari
[1:30:37] po
[1:30:37] doon
[1:30:38] ang
[1:30:38] maximum
[1:30:39] na
[1:30:39] kinover
[1:30:40] ng
[1:30:40] insurance
[1:30:41] industry
[1:30:42] ay
[1:30:43] hindi
[1:30:43] lumagpas
[1:30:44] ng
[1:30:44] 75
[1:30:45] million
[1:30:46] dollars
[1:30:46] so
[1:30:47] covered
[1:30:48] na
[1:30:48] covered
[1:30:48] po
[1:30:49] tayo
[1:30:50] thank you
[1:30:52] so
[1:30:53] basically
[1:30:54] ang
[1:30:55] tama
[1:30:58] po ba
[1:30:58] Director
[1:31:00] Samson
[1:31:00] na
[1:31:01] for the
[1:31:03] CNS
[1:31:03] it's only
[1:31:04] yung
[1:31:04] attendance
[1:31:05] natin
[1:31:05] and then
[1:31:06] for the
[1:31:07] CSE
[1:31:07] is for
[1:31:08] the
[1:31:08] $2,000
[1:31:09] ang
[1:31:10] annual
[1:31:11] fee
[1:31:11] and
[1:31:12] then
[1:31:12] the
[1:31:12] rest
[1:31:13] wala
[1:31:14] ng
[1:31:14] membership
[1:31:16] fee
[1:31:16] or
[1:31:17] alright
[1:31:18] thank you
[1:31:19] thank you
[1:31:19] Mr. Chairman
[1:31:20] yes
[1:31:21] let me
[1:31:22] get back
[1:31:23] to
[1:31:23] the
[1:31:24] PNRI
[1:31:25] what
[1:31:27] neighboring
[1:31:28] countries
[1:31:28] are
[1:31:28] transboundary
[1:31:32] effect
[1:31:32] nuclear
[1:31:32] incident
[1:31:33] are we
[1:31:33] talking
[1:31:33] here
[1:31:34] like
[1:31:34] Japan
[1:31:34] and
[1:31:34] China
[1:31:35] currently
[1:31:39] Japan
[1:31:40] and
[1:31:40] China
[1:31:40] are
[1:31:41] the
[1:31:41] biggest
[1:31:42] Asian
[1:31:44] neighbors
[1:31:44] but
[1:31:44] other
[1:31:45] Asian
[1:31:46] neighbors
[1:31:46] have
[1:31:47] research
[1:31:47] reactors
[1:31:48] but
[1:31:48] they're
[1:31:48] small
[1:31:48] like
[1:31:49] Indonesia
[1:31:50] has
[1:31:50] one
[1:31:51] Malaysia
[1:31:51] has
[1:31:51] one
[1:31:52] but
[1:31:52] they're
[1:31:52] like
[1:31:52] 3
[1:31:53] megawatt
[1:31:54] research
[1:31:55] reactor
[1:31:55] but
[1:31:55] power
[1:31:56] reactors
[1:31:56] we really
[1:31:57] have
[1:31:57] Japan
[1:31:58] China
[1:31:58] and
[1:31:59] Taiwan
[1:32:00] also
[1:32:00] has
[1:32:01] power
[1:32:01] reactors
[1:32:02] and
[1:32:02] Korea
[1:32:02] of course
[1:32:03] South Korea
[1:32:03] are they
[1:32:10] part of
[1:32:11] the
[1:32:11] contracting
[1:32:13] parts
[1:32:13] of the
[1:32:14] convention
[1:32:14] all
[1:32:15] these
[1:32:15] four
[1:32:15] are
[1:32:16] for
[1:32:18] the
[1:32:20] CSC
[1:32:21] the
[1:32:21] part
[1:32:21] of
[1:32:22] the
[1:32:22] IAEA
[1:32:24] website
[1:32:24] is
[1:32:25] India
[1:32:26] Japan
[1:32:27] UAE
[1:32:28] United
[1:32:29] Arab
[1:32:29] Emirates
[1:32:29] there are
[1:32:30] 11
[1:32:30] for
[1:32:31] the
[1:32:31] CSC
[1:32:31] China
[1:32:32] will
[1:32:33] probably
[1:32:33] never
[1:32:34] sign
[1:32:34] the
[1:32:34] CSC
[1:32:35] because
[1:32:36] the
[1:32:37] CSC
[1:32:38] is
[1:32:38] being
[1:32:38] propagated
[1:32:41] worldwide
[1:32:42] by the
[1:32:43] United
[1:32:43] States
[1:32:44] so
[1:32:44] malamang
[1:32:46] never
[1:32:46] pipirma
[1:32:47] ang
[1:32:48] China
[1:32:48] sa
[1:32:49] CSC
[1:32:49] but
[1:32:49] of course
[1:32:50] we can
[1:32:51] never
[1:32:51] say
[1:32:51] never
[1:32:52] so
[1:32:52] pag
[1:32:53] nagkaroon
[1:32:54] ba
[1:32:54] ng
[1:32:54] problema
[1:32:54] rito
[1:32:55] Director
[1:32:56] Aquino
[1:32:57] nagkaroon
[1:32:58] ng
[1:32:58] problema
[1:32:58] sa
[1:32:59] China
[1:32:59] yung
[1:33:00] kanilang
[1:33:00] reactor
[1:33:01] power
[1:33:02] plant
[1:33:02] tumabot
[1:33:03] dito
[1:33:04] yung
[1:33:04] epekto
[1:33:05] nito
[1:33:05] hindi
[1:33:05] sila
[1:33:06] magbabayad
[1:33:06] because
[1:33:07] hindi
[1:33:07] sila
[1:33:08] part
[1:33:09] ng
[1:33:09] contracting
[1:33:09] party
[1:33:10] Mr.
[1:33:11] Chair
[1:33:12] but
[1:33:12] I'll
[1:33:12] defer
[1:33:12] to
[1:33:12] our
[1:33:13] colleagues
[1:33:13] from
[1:33:13] the
[1:33:14] DFA
[1:33:14] but
[1:33:14] our
[1:33:14] understanding
[1:33:15] is
[1:33:15] that
[1:33:16] specifically
[1:33:17] for
[1:33:17] this
[1:33:18] particular
[1:33:19] treaty
[1:33:19] or
[1:33:19] convention
[1:33:20] hindi
[1:33:20] po
[1:33:20] but
[1:33:21] of
[1:33:21] course
[1:33:21] we
[1:33:21] can
[1:33:22] use
[1:33:22] all
[1:33:22] our
[1:33:22] diplomatic
[1:33:23] mechanisms
[1:33:24] to
[1:33:25] protect
[1:33:25] the
[1:33:25] interest
[1:33:26] of
[1:33:26] our
[1:33:26] country
[1:33:26] and
[1:33:27] our
[1:33:27] peoples
[1:33:27] we
[1:33:28] defer
[1:33:28] to
[1:33:28] the
[1:33:28] DFA
[1:33:29] on
[1:33:29] the
[1:33:30] mechanism
[1:33:30] specifically
[1:33:31] for
[1:33:31] us
[1:33:31] outside
[1:33:32] of
[1:33:32] this
[1:33:32] convention
[1:33:32] or
[1:33:33] treaty
[1:33:33] yes
[1:33:36] chair
[1:33:36] we
[1:33:36] could
[1:33:36] go
[1:33:36] the
[1:33:37] bilateral
[1:33:37] route
[1:33:38] if
[1:33:38] not
[1:33:39] within
[1:33:39] this
[1:33:39] convention
[1:33:40] there
[1:33:41] are
[1:33:41] other
[1:33:41] options
[1:33:42] sir
[1:33:42] diplomatic
[1:33:42] options
[1:33:43] wala pong
[1:33:44] nakalatag
[1:33:45] for example
[1:33:46] kung sakasakaling
[1:33:47] nagka problema
[1:33:47] na
[1:33:47] disgraced
[1:33:48] siya
[1:33:48] doon
[1:33:49] yung
[1:33:49] kanilang
[1:33:50] nuclear
[1:33:50] power
[1:33:51] plant
[1:33:51] at
[1:33:51] umabot
[1:33:52] po
[1:33:52] dito
[1:33:52] yung
[1:33:52] problema
[1:33:52] sa
[1:33:53] atin
[1:33:53] sa
[1:33:54] pag-asa
[1:33:54] dahil
[1:33:54] malapit
[1:33:55] wala
[1:33:56] po
[1:33:56] tayong
[1:33:57] mahihita
[1:33:58] ika
[1:33:59] nga
[1:33:59] na
[1:33:59] mahahabol
[1:34:01] sa
[1:34:04] part
[1:34:04] ng
[1:34:04] contracting
[1:34:05] party
[1:34:07] ma'am
[1:34:08] at
[1:34:08] saka
[1:34:08] so
[1:34:09] yung
[1:34:10] mga
[1:34:10] kababayan
[1:34:10] natin
[1:34:11] na
[1:34:11] apektado
[1:34:12] ay
[1:34:12] walang
[1:34:12] makukuha
[1:34:13] dito
[1:34:13] sa
[1:34:13] supplementary
[1:34:14] compensation
[1:34:15] fund
[1:34:15] ng
[1:34:16] singkong
[1:34:16] dulig
[1:34:17] papano
[1:34:18] po
[1:34:19] ito
[1:34:19] how
[1:34:19] do
[1:34:20] we
[1:34:20] makikiusap
[1:34:22] po
[1:34:22] tayo
[1:34:22] na
[1:34:22] please
[1:34:23] naman
[1:34:23] bayaran
[1:34:24] nyo
[1:34:24] naman
[1:34:24] kami
[1:34:24] oh
[1:34:24] chair
[1:34:26] is
[1:34:27] specific
[1:34:27] to
[1:34:27] this
[1:34:28] convention
[1:34:28] hindi
[1:34:29] po
[1:34:29] we
[1:34:29] cannot
[1:34:29] invoke
[1:34:30] this
[1:34:31] convention
[1:34:31] since
[1:34:31] they
[1:34:31] are
[1:34:32] not
[1:34:32] a
[1:34:32] contracting
[1:34:32] party
[1:34:33] understand
[1:34:33] but
[1:34:35] chair
[1:34:36] china
[1:34:37] is
[1:34:37] a
[1:34:37] party
[1:34:38] to
[1:34:38] the
[1:34:38] IAEA
[1:34:39] it's
[1:34:40] a
[1:34:40] member
[1:34:40] to
[1:34:40] the
[1:34:40] IAEA
[1:34:41] the
[1:34:41] international
[1:34:41] atomic
[1:34:42] agency
[1:34:43] and
[1:34:44] we
[1:34:44] can
[1:34:44] explore
[1:34:45] our
[1:34:46] options
[1:34:46] there
[1:34:46] and
[1:34:46] of
[1:34:47] course
[1:34:47] there's
[1:34:47] always
[1:34:47] the
[1:34:47] bilateral
[1:34:48] route
[1:34:48] sir
[1:34:49] have
[1:34:50] you
[1:34:50] started
[1:34:51] the
[1:34:51] ikama
[1:34:52] or
[1:34:52] planning
[1:34:52] to
[1:34:52] do
[1:34:53] that
[1:34:53] route
[1:34:53] you
[1:34:54] mag
[1:34:54] bilateral
[1:34:54] route
[1:34:55] tayo
[1:34:55] ngayon
[1:34:56] hanggang
[1:34:56] di
[1:34:56] po
[1:34:56] contracting
[1:34:59] party
[1:34:59] wala
[1:35:03] pa
[1:35:03] sir
[1:35:03] on
[1:35:03] as
[1:35:04] as far
[1:35:04] as
[1:35:04] we
[1:35:04] know
[1:35:05] sir
[1:35:05] wala
[1:35:06] pa
[1:35:08] repercussions
[1:35:10] mga
[1:35:11] incidents
[1:35:11] the
[1:35:11] possible
[1:35:12] incidents
[1:35:12] sir
[1:35:12] but
[1:35:13] we
[1:35:13] could
[1:35:13] look
[1:35:14] into
[1:35:14] that
[1:35:14] yeah
[1:35:15] all
[1:35:16] right
[1:35:16] parang
[1:35:17] talo
[1:35:17] naman
[1:35:17] ho
[1:35:17] tayo
[1:35:18] lugi
[1:35:18] naman
[1:35:19] ho
[1:35:19] tayo
[1:35:20] papasa
[1:35:20] natin
[1:35:21] itong
[1:35:21] mga
[1:35:22] treaties
[1:35:25] na ito
[1:35:25] conventions
[1:35:27] na ito
[1:35:28] pero yung
[1:35:29] neighbor
[1:35:29] po
[1:35:29] natin
[1:35:30] hindi
[1:35:30] nakapirma
[1:35:31] pag
[1:35:31] nakaproblema
[1:35:32] sila
[1:35:33] doon
[1:35:33] na
[1:35:34] tama
[1:35:34] sa
[1:35:34] atin
[1:35:35] sasaluin
[1:35:36] natin
[1:35:37] yung
[1:35:37] problema
[1:35:37] wala
[1:35:38] tayong
[1:35:38] makukuha
[1:35:39] ni
[1:35:39] singkonduling
[1:35:40] we
[1:35:40] have
[1:35:41] to
[1:35:41] study
[1:35:42] this
[1:35:42] ito
[1:35:43] po
[1:35:43] importante
[1:35:44] rito
[1:35:44] I
[1:35:45] mean
[1:35:46] mabuti
[1:35:46] na-raise
[1:35:47] itong
[1:35:47] issue
[1:35:48] na ito
[1:35:48] kung
[1:35:48] hindi
[1:35:49] kaya
[1:35:49] kala
[1:35:50] ho
[1:35:50] natin
[1:35:50] si
[1:35:50] China
[1:35:51] is
[1:35:51] contracting
[1:35:51] party
[1:35:52] din
[1:35:52] babayaran
[1:35:53] tayo
[1:35:53] maganda
[1:35:53] pakinggan
[1:35:54] di
[1:35:54] ho
[1:35:54] ba
[1:35:54] pero
[1:35:55] so
[1:35:55] how
[1:35:56] do we
[1:35:56] address
[1:35:56] this
[1:35:56] issue
[1:35:57] now
[1:35:57] itong
[1:35:57] supplementary
[1:35:58] compensation
[1:35:59] yung mga
[1:35:59] kababayan
[1:36:00] natin
[1:36:00] sabihin
[1:36:01] na natin
[1:36:01] God
[1:36:02] forbid
[1:36:02] yung mga
[1:36:03] kababayan
[1:36:03] natin
[1:36:04] sa
[1:36:04] pag-asa
[1:36:04] island
[1:36:05] tinamaan
[1:36:05] doon
[1:36:05] nasa
[1:36:06] ilang
[1:36:07] daan
[1:36:07] lang po
[1:36:07] sila
[1:36:08] doon
[1:36:08] walang
[1:36:09] makukuha
[1:36:09] kasi
[1:36:09] sabihin
[1:36:10] China
[1:36:10] hindi
[1:36:11] naman
[1:36:11] kami
[1:36:11] wala
[1:36:12] kami
[1:36:12] pinirmahan
[1:36:13] dyan
[1:36:13] na
[1:36:13] mga
[1:36:14] supplementary
[1:36:15] compensation
[1:36:15] fund
[1:36:16] na yan
[1:36:16] we're
[1:36:16] not
[1:36:17] so
[1:36:18] papano
[1:36:18] natin
[1:36:19] hahabulin
[1:36:19] po ito
[1:36:20] nga
[1:36:20] go ahead
[1:36:24] director
[1:36:25] samson
[1:36:27] okay
[1:36:27] with regards
[1:36:29] to these
[1:36:30] different
[1:36:30] conventions
[1:36:31] actually
[1:36:31] senator
[1:36:32] they are
[1:36:32] campaigning
[1:36:33] heavily
[1:36:34] to other
[1:36:35] countries
[1:36:36] to be
[1:36:36] a contracting
[1:36:37] party
[1:36:38] of the
[1:36:38] supplemental
[1:36:39] convention
[1:36:39] as well
[1:36:40] as the
[1:36:40] different
[1:36:40] joint
[1:36:41] conventions
[1:36:42] to have
[1:36:42] a global
[1:36:43] regime
[1:36:44] of
[1:36:44] nuclear
[1:36:45] compensation
[1:36:46] po
[1:36:46] so
[1:36:46] if
[1:36:47] the
[1:36:48] Philippines
[1:36:48] ratifies
[1:36:50] this
[1:36:50] convention
[1:36:50] this
[1:36:51] will
[1:36:51] also
[1:36:51] be
[1:36:51] a
[1:36:52] signal
[1:36:52] to
[1:36:52] our
[1:36:53] other
[1:36:53] ASEAN
[1:36:54] neighbors
[1:36:54] and
[1:36:54] we
[1:36:54] can
[1:36:54] also
[1:36:55] campaign
[1:36:56] to
[1:36:56] our
[1:36:56] other
[1:36:56] ASEAN
[1:36:57] neighbors
[1:36:57] to
[1:36:58] accede
[1:36:58] to
[1:36:58] this
[1:36:59] to
[1:37:00] these
[1:37:00] conventions
[1:37:00] so
[1:37:01] that
[1:37:01] we
[1:37:01] will
[1:37:03] be
[1:37:03] contracting
[1:37:03] parties
[1:37:04] and
[1:37:04] then
[1:37:04] we
[1:37:05] can
[1:37:05] also
[1:37:05] have
[1:37:06] when
[1:37:07] there
[1:37:07] are
[1:37:08] campaigns
[1:37:09] of
[1:37:10] the
[1:37:10] CSE
[1:37:10] and
[1:37:10] other
[1:37:11] joint
[1:37:11] conventions
[1:37:11] for
[1:37:12] compensation
[1:37:12] we
[1:37:13] can
[1:37:13] actually
[1:37:13] join
[1:37:14] so
[1:37:14] to
[1:37:15] promote
[1:37:15] these
[1:37:16] conventions
[1:37:16] para
[1:37:17] po
[1:37:17] magratify
[1:37:18] po
[1:37:18] yung
[1:37:18] ating
[1:37:19] mga
[1:37:19] big
[1:37:20] neighboring
[1:37:21] countries
[1:37:21] na
[1:37:21] merong
[1:37:22] nuclear
[1:37:22] power
[1:37:22] but
[1:37:23] I
[1:37:23] would
[1:37:23] just
[1:37:24] like
[1:37:24] to
[1:37:24] point
[1:37:24] out
[1:37:24] that
[1:37:25] si
[1:37:25] Japan
[1:37:25] po
[1:37:25] which
[1:37:26] is
[1:37:26] nearer
[1:37:27] to
[1:37:27] us
[1:37:27] is
[1:37:27] a
[1:37:28] party
[1:37:28] to
[1:37:28] the
[1:37:29] CSC
[1:37:30] kaya
[1:37:30] isa
[1:37:30] isa
[1:37:30] na
[1:37:31] guarantee
[1:37:32] sa
[1:37:32] at
[1:37:32] least
[1:37:33] si
[1:37:33] Japan
[1:37:34] ay
[1:37:34] contracting
[1:37:35] party
[1:37:35] na
[1:37:35] po
[1:37:36] director
[1:37:37] Mr. Aquino.
[1:38:07] Mr. Aquino.
[1:38:37] The Philippines and China are both parties to the Convention on Assistance for Nuclear Accident or Radiological Emergency.
[1:38:47] So there are protocols in place, Mr. Chair, at least at the onset.
[1:38:52] So kapag meron pong nangyari, duty bound po si China kung dun po nangyari yung incident at bilang member rin po sila dun sa IAEA at dun sa dalawang convention po na pareho na tayong party, dapat po sinasabi.
[1:39:04] At ang nakalagay po dun sa dalawang party, maliwanag po, kailangan pong mag-facilitate sila ng assistance sa atin para ma-minimize po yung impact sa tao, sa property at sa environment.
[1:39:18] Yung pinag-uusapan po lang natin dito kasi kaya natin dinudulog yung buod sa investor confidence kagaya po nung na-establish natin is yung extent po nung liability.
[1:39:26] So just to be very clear po, meron po tayong mga protocols in place na kapag kami nangyari po, China and the Philippines have a standing convention under a framework of at least two conventions na nagsasabing may responsibilidad po na mag-notify si China, may responsibilidad po na magpagay ng immediate assistance in relation to preserving life, protecting the environment, and protecting property, Mr. Chair.
[1:39:51] Saan ang convention po yan?
[1:39:53] Yung convention po ito, yung una ko pong binabanggit is convention on early notification of a nuclear accident.
[1:40:00] Both parties po signed it. It came in to enforce sa China po noong October 11, 1987, at sa Pilipinas naman po June 5, 1997.
[1:40:11] Yung pangalawa pong convention na binabanggit ko on the assistance in the case of the nuclear accident,
[1:40:17] yung listing po nito sa China, naging effective po siya noong October 11, 1987, at yung sa atin po eh noong June 5, 1997.
[1:40:28] Ang emergency cooperation framework po ito, Mr. Chair.
[1:40:31] Emergency cooperation lang, pero wala naman nakasaad doon na compensation.
[1:40:35] Kaya nga po may bukod pong convention.
[1:40:37] Ang nilalagay ko lang po sa on record na meron pong obligasyon ang ating China na i-minimize ka po,
[1:40:44] pero yung extent po nung damage, yung po yung kinukover nitong CSC po.
[1:40:48] Baka nakakalimutan po natin, Director Aquino, na ang China po minsan eh, matikas mo ang ulo.
[1:40:54] Yung sa UNCLOS na lamang po eh, hindi ko na sinusunod.
[1:40:57] I mean, I'm just, just be frank with you.
[1:41:00] Hindi po ba?
[1:41:00] And then you're saying na susunod yan dahil may treaty tayo.
[1:41:04] Eh ito na nga, UNCLOS naman.
[1:41:05] We are both members of UNCLOS,
[1:41:08] pero hindi naman po ginagalang yung decision ng UNCLOS.
[1:41:11] So how is that?
[1:41:12] Ano hong guarantee natin na susundin mo rito?
[1:41:21] Mr. Chair, siguro po ang colleagues rin natin sa DFA can give support credence to this.
[1:41:29] And also our colleagues from DOST.
[1:41:32] China is a vendor country for the nuclear technology.
[1:41:36] And what will be, if they are unable to keep up with the safe operation
[1:41:40] and make sure that their plans in the event it does have damage,
[1:41:45] cannot extend and support the assistance,
[1:41:50] meron pong impact rin yun sa ability po nung bansa nila na magbenta po nung technology.
[1:41:55] So yun po yung isang lever, not necessarily po dito sa convention na ito,
[1:42:00] na mechanism na maaari po natin gawin.
[1:42:02] Kasi vendor country po si China ng nuclear.
[1:42:05] Actively po siya ngayon na nagsisik sa iba't ibang bahagi ng mundo na magbigay ng kanyang teknolohiya.
[1:42:12] Kung dumating po, knock on wood, sa sitwasyon na meron pong aksidente
[1:42:15] at hindi matutugonan ng China ito sa isang pamamaraan na katanggap-tanggap sa mundo,
[1:42:22] meron pong, sa tingin ko po, personal po, meron pong magiging consequences ito
[1:42:26] sa kanilang standing as a nuclear operator, as a country and as a nuclear vendor, Mr. Chair,
[1:42:32] which hopefully, all things considered, will be enough pressure or onus on their part
[1:42:38] to ensure that the Philippines, in the event that happens, is taken care of, Mr. Chair.
[1:42:43] Sana nga, I mean, you're right, Director Aquino, when we get to that point,
[1:42:49] pero sinasabi ko nga lang, medyo nagdududaho tayo.
[1:42:52] Department of Foreign Affairs, your comment on this.
[1:42:56] Papano ho natin gagawin ito?
[1:43:00] May mga treaties daho tayo, other than this,
[1:43:03] ng SCF, Supplementary Compensation Fund po.
[1:43:12] Yes, Honorable Chair, we can invoke those conventions,
[1:43:15] but at the end of the day, sir, as you yourself said,
[1:43:19] wala naman tayong assurance magating sa ating neighbor.
[1:43:23] But just to comment, Chair, that China channels liability to the operator.
[1:43:31] So there are indeed, as I said, there are bilateral mechanisms that can be explored should an incident occur.
[1:43:36] And, sir, on it not being a state party to the convention,
[1:43:45] mayroon din pong, how do you call this,
[1:43:48] we call it reputational risk,
[1:43:49] but it's also, sir, connected with what DOE just said.
[1:43:53] We can pressure.
[1:43:54] There are more states that are getting on board with these conventions,
[1:43:58] and we can pressure other state party to comply with such standards or commitments.
[1:44:07] Yes, sir.
[1:44:07] Sana nga po, kasi nangyayari ho dito, parang lagi ho tayong the losing end, di po ba?
[1:44:14] Lagi ho tayong kawawa sa neighbor po natin.
[1:44:17] Lagi ho tayong ika nga, parang sila ho nasusunod.
[1:44:23] And anyway, moving forward po, I have a question po.
[1:44:27] Sa aling agency po kaya ito, DFA or DOE,
[1:44:33] budget line item na ilalagay ang contribution po ng Pilipinas,
[1:44:37] supplementary compensation fund, if ever?
[1:44:41] Anong agency po ito?
[1:44:42] Napag-usapan na po ba ng joint task force ito?
[1:44:45] Is it DOE?
[1:44:46] Is that DOSD?
[1:44:48] Mr. Chair, I think, at least on the working discussions,
[1:44:51] we'll confirm it when we do the submission,
[1:44:55] Mr. Chair, most likely we'll try to lodge it with Phil Atom as the regulator.
[1:45:00] All of the necessary implementation costs in relation to the ratification
[1:45:05] if we do accede to these conventions and treaties, Mr. Chair.
[1:45:08] Can you give us a ballpark figure now?
[1:45:10] How much are we talking?
[1:45:11] I mean, how much budget are we talking?
[1:45:13] Mr. Chair, earlier, I think Dr. Samson already mentioned
[1:45:17] that it will not be more than $2,000 and then annually
[1:45:22] and then the participation of the Philippine contingent
[1:45:26] on the triennial activities of the IAEA in relation to these conventions,
[1:45:31] Mr. Chair.
[1:45:33] All right, thank you.
[1:45:35] Sinwin?
[1:45:36] Just to follow up, Mr. Chairman,
[1:45:38] Yung kanina narinig ko na importante yung role ng Phil Atom
[1:45:43] in all of these conventions.
[1:45:45] So where are we now in terms of implementing Phil Atom?
[1:45:50] There's a law already.
[1:45:52] Of course, courtesy ni Congressman Mark Cuwanko
[1:45:55] who for many, many years crafted this law
[1:46:00] and finally na-approve siya.
[1:46:03] So where are we now in terms of putting that together?
[1:46:06] I don't believe it's in the 2026 budget eh.
[1:46:10] Hindi ko napansin siya.
[1:46:11] But ano ba ang kanyang timetable?
[1:46:18] Go ahead.
[1:46:19] Mr. Chair, based on the law,
[1:46:23] the IRR should be crafted upon the appointment
[1:46:27] of the Director General
[1:46:29] and the four Deputy Director Generals.
[1:46:33] So far, there is no appointment yet
[1:46:38] after the law has been signed.
[1:46:41] But initially, we,
[1:46:43] the Department of Science and Technology
[1:46:45] took the initiative to draft the IRR.
[1:46:49] But we were,
[1:46:51] our attention was called by Senator Cahuanko
[1:46:55] that this is not,
[1:46:57] that this is not compliant with the law.
[1:47:05] So it remained
[1:47:07] with the Department of Science and Technology.
[1:47:11] Mr. Chair, may I comment on that?
[1:47:15] The Republic Act 12305
[1:47:18] mandates that the IRR must be completed
[1:47:24] 180 days after the law comes into effect.
[1:47:31] But to do that,
[1:47:32] you need to have the Director General
[1:47:35] and Deputy Director Generals appointed
[1:47:38] and convened as a body.
[1:47:41] That hasn't happened.
[1:47:43] And we are past 180 days.
[1:47:48] So we are in violation of the law already.
[1:47:52] I find fault with DOE
[1:47:57] as the lead agency of the NEPIAC
[1:48:01] for misadvising the President
[1:48:04] on the urgency of appointing
[1:48:08] the Deputy Director Generals
[1:48:10] and the Director General.
[1:48:12] Why did they not prioritize
[1:48:29] the recommendation to the President
[1:48:33] to appoint those that needed appointing?
[1:48:37] Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[1:48:38] It would be under the office of the President,
[1:48:42] no, Pong Mark?
[1:48:43] Which one?
[1:48:44] Phil Atom.
[1:48:46] Phil Atom is an independent agency.
[1:48:51] The only authority of the President
[1:48:53] over the Phil Atom
[1:48:55] is the appointment of the Director General
[1:49:00] and Deputy Director General.
[1:49:02] And also,
[1:49:05] there is a permitting process
[1:49:09] for advanced reactors.
[1:49:13] Those that are not water reactors,
[1:49:15] these are new.
[1:49:19] So, since we did not want to be
[1:49:21] what you call it,
[1:49:25] yung trial balloon,
[1:49:28] anong tawag po doon?
[1:49:31] Yung guinea pig.
[1:49:34] Since we did not want na guinea pig
[1:49:37] ang Pilipinas sa mga advanced reactors,
[1:49:40] re-require ng batas
[1:49:42] ng two years of
[1:49:43] trouble-free operational experience
[1:49:46] in the vendor country of origin.
[1:49:48] And kung sasabihin ni Presidente
[1:49:55] na hindi, okay na yan
[1:49:59] kasi kinausap ako ng U.S. President,
[1:50:03] mahusay yan,
[1:50:04] pwede niyang i-overrule po yun,
[1:50:07] yung two-year requirement.
[1:50:10] Thank you.
[1:50:11] Quickly lang po sa Department of Justice.
[1:50:15] Kanina ko pa itong naisip.
[1:50:17] Sa tingin niyo ba,
[1:50:18] Department of Justice,
[1:50:20] itong technical at legal,
[1:50:23] handa na po ba kayo?
[1:50:25] Just in case,
[1:50:26] ang ating judicial system
[1:50:27] na mag-handle po
[1:50:29] ng ganito ka-complex
[1:50:30] yung mga transnational claims po.
[1:50:33] For example,
[1:50:34] we go to Japan
[1:50:36] or Taiwan.
[1:50:38] Are we ready for this?
[1:50:41] Ito po ba'y
[1:50:41] pinag-aaralan na hunin niyo?
[1:50:43] How do you do this?
[1:50:44] Yung ating po mga prosecutors?
[1:50:48] Yes.
[1:50:48] Good morning, Mr. Chair.
[1:50:49] Good morning, Your Honors.
[1:50:52] Yes, Your Honor.
[1:50:53] When we were asked
[1:50:54] for the issuance
[1:50:56] of a certificate of concurrence
[1:50:58] on these four instruments,
[1:51:00] we already looked
[1:51:02] into the issues
[1:51:04] that may come up
[1:51:05] with the Philippines
[1:51:07] ratifying these conventions.
[1:51:09] And I think
[1:51:10] since we issued
[1:51:12] our certificate of concurrence
[1:51:14] on these instruments,
[1:51:16] yes, we can say
[1:51:17] that the Philippines
[1:51:18] is ready for
[1:51:19] these four conventions.
[1:51:20] Mr. Chair.
[1:51:21] All right.
[1:51:22] And the Department of Finance,
[1:51:25] nire-require po
[1:51:27] ng convention
[1:51:28] ng mga nuclear operators
[1:51:29] na sapat
[1:51:31] ang financial security
[1:51:32] or insurance
[1:51:33] para makover
[1:51:34] ang potential liabilities.
[1:51:36] sa assessment po ba
[1:51:38] ng DOF
[1:51:39] kasamang insurance commission,
[1:51:42] may kapasidad ba
[1:51:43] ang ating local insurance market
[1:51:45] na i-cover po
[1:51:46] ang nuclear liability
[1:51:47] o mapipilitan
[1:51:48] ang ating mga operator
[1:51:49] na umasa po
[1:51:51] ng buo
[1:51:51] sa mga international
[1:51:52] insurance pools.
[1:51:54] Good morning, Mr. Chair.
[1:51:58] Good morning,
[1:51:59] owners.
[1:52:00] Based on the input
[1:52:01] from the insurance commission,
[1:52:03] they were already
[1:52:05] looked into the
[1:52:06] total maximum liability
[1:52:09] of around 25 billion
[1:52:10] and they're saying
[1:52:12] that the local insurance industry
[1:52:14] can cover this liability,
[1:52:17] your honor.
[1:52:19] Yung 25 billion po?
[1:52:21] Is that what you're saying?
[1:52:23] Yes, your honor.
[1:52:23] Or baka i-asa po ito
[1:52:25] sa gobyerno natin.
[1:52:26] I mean,
[1:52:27] wala na ho talaga tayong pera
[1:52:28] at baka
[1:52:29] pag hindi po kakayanin
[1:52:30] ang ating mga insurance claims po eh,
[1:52:32] baka ituro po
[1:52:33] ang gobyerno natin
[1:52:34] na naman,
[1:52:34] ang gobyerno ang papasan.
[1:52:36] And of course,
[1:52:37] pag ang gobyerno po
[1:52:38] ang papasan,
[1:52:39] sagot din po
[1:52:39] ng taong bayan,
[1:52:41] asek na pa.
[1:52:43] The IEC input,
[1:52:44] your honor,
[1:52:45] mentioned that
[1:52:46] although the 25 billion
[1:52:48] is not,
[1:52:50] is beyond the capacity
[1:52:51] of a single,
[1:52:52] local,
[1:52:53] non-life insurance company.
[1:52:55] There are mechanisms
[1:52:56] in the industry,
[1:52:58] including
[1:52:59] reinsurance scheme.
[1:53:03] And they're also proposing
[1:53:05] to explore a national
[1:53:07] nuclear insurance pool,
[1:53:09] whereby this will
[1:53:11] involve local insurers
[1:53:13] to voluntarily join
[1:53:15] a coinsurance,
[1:53:16] on a coinsurance basis.
[1:53:19] All right.
[1:53:19] Thank you,
[1:53:20] Asik Napa.
[1:53:21] Sanwin,
[1:53:21] do you have any more questions?
[1:53:23] What about you,
[1:53:25] Congressman Mark?
[1:53:29] Wala na pong question,
[1:53:31] pero ang masasabi ko lang po,
[1:53:34] we need these conventions
[1:53:39] whether or not we go
[1:53:41] into nuclear power.
[1:53:44] We need the joint protocol
[1:53:47] to be included
[1:53:49] in these four conventions.
[1:53:52] so there will be five conventions
[1:53:55] at the soonest possible time.
[1:54:00] The DFA did not give
[1:54:01] a date
[1:54:02] when they expect
[1:54:04] the president
[1:54:05] to write a letter
[1:54:07] to
[1:54:08] the Senate.
[1:54:10] So,
[1:54:12] dapat po siguro
[1:54:14] yun yung hard date
[1:54:15] na dapat natin malaman.
[1:54:19] I think the
[1:54:20] Odesga
[1:54:20] is just waiting
[1:54:22] for the DFA
[1:54:23] to advise them
[1:54:26] and they will proceed
[1:54:28] with getting
[1:54:29] the president
[1:54:29] to sign.
[1:54:30] So,
[1:54:32] kailan po
[1:54:33] darating sa Senado
[1:54:35] ang sulat
[1:54:36] ni Presidente
[1:54:37] requesting
[1:54:38] na pati yung
[1:54:40] joint protocol
[1:54:41] ay
[1:54:42] hinihiling nila
[1:54:44] na
[1:54:44] iratify
[1:54:46] ng Senado.
[1:54:47] Thank you.
[1:54:50] Congressman Mark,
[1:54:51] actually,
[1:54:53] ako po tatanungin,
[1:54:54] personally,
[1:54:55] I agree.
[1:54:56] Dito po,
[1:54:57] we really have to
[1:54:58] ratify
[1:54:59] these conventions.
[1:55:00] We really need it.
[1:55:01] We're lagging behind po
[1:55:02] lahat po ng
[1:55:03] countries around us.
[1:55:05] They are using
[1:55:05] all this in nuclear,
[1:55:07] electricity,
[1:55:08] in medicine,
[1:55:09] etc.
[1:55:09] The question lamang po
[1:55:11] is how do we
[1:55:11] sell this to the public?
[1:55:13] Mga kababayan natin,
[1:55:14] mga nasa kabundukan,
[1:55:15] nasa bukid,
[1:55:17] papasukan pa dyan
[1:55:18] ng mga statements
[1:55:19] na kung ano-ano
[1:55:19] mga grupo
[1:55:20] na delikado yan.
[1:55:21] Mr. Chair.
[1:55:22] Na kung matutunaw tayo.
[1:55:25] Meron kinomisyon po
[1:55:27] ang DOE
[1:55:28] na SWS survey
[1:55:31] na nung lumabas po
[1:55:34] ang resulta,
[1:55:35] tinago po nila
[1:55:36] na nagsasabi
[1:55:38] na 82%
[1:55:41] ng lahat po
[1:55:42] ng Pilipino
[1:55:43] ay sangayon
[1:55:45] sa nuclear power.
[1:55:46] Pati po
[1:55:47] sa bataan
[1:55:50] mismo
[1:55:50] 60 plus
[1:55:53] percent
[1:55:53] ay sangayon
[1:55:55] sa nuclear power.
[1:55:58] So,
[1:55:59] inimbargo po nila
[1:56:00] ang resulta,
[1:56:01] pati na po
[1:56:02] sa chairman
[1:56:04] ng nuclear committee
[1:56:06] ng
[1:56:06] House of Representatives.
[1:56:09] Inimbok pa namin
[1:56:11] ang freedom
[1:56:12] of information
[1:56:13] executive order
[1:56:14] para makuha po
[1:56:15] sa kanila.
[1:56:18] Bakit po
[1:56:19] tinatago
[1:56:19] yung mga resultang yan?
[1:56:21] Can we
[1:56:25] submit that
[1:56:26] to the committee?
[1:56:28] Mr. Chair,
[1:56:30] the Department of Energy
[1:56:31] will be providing
[1:56:32] the full copy
[1:56:33] similar to what
[1:56:34] was provided
[1:56:35] to the House Special
[1:56:35] Committee on Nuclear
[1:56:36] on the results
[1:56:37] of the 2020
[1:56:38] for SWS survey
[1:56:40] being referred to.
[1:56:42] And yes,
[1:56:42] we confirm
[1:56:43] that more than
[1:56:44] 70%
[1:56:45] if we're looking
[1:56:46] at the net
[1:56:47] approval,
[1:56:48] but 84%
[1:56:50] if only
[1:56:51] approved
[1:56:52] was the result
[1:56:53] of the nationwide
[1:56:54] survey
[1:56:54] in favor
[1:56:55] of nuclear
[1:56:56] Mr.
[1:56:57] Chair.
[1:56:57] Kasi po
[1:56:58] I was able
[1:56:59] to do my
[1:57:00] own research
[1:57:00] din
[1:57:01] several weeks
[1:57:02] ago
[1:57:02] yung church
[1:57:04] po
[1:57:04] ilang churches
[1:57:04] po
[1:57:05] particularly
[1:57:05] in Pangasinan
[1:57:06] medyo
[1:57:07] tutol po
[1:57:08] sila dito
[1:57:09] so
[1:57:09] this is what
[1:57:11] I'm talking
[1:57:11] about
[1:57:11] hindi naman
[1:57:12] po
[1:57:12] 100%
[1:57:13] tayo
[1:57:13] 80%
[1:57:14] 90%
[1:57:14] Congressman
[1:57:15] Mr.
[1:57:16] Chair
[1:57:16] doon po
[1:57:18] sa pastoral
[1:57:19] letter
[1:57:19] na lumabas
[1:57:20] may mga
[1:57:21] ibang
[1:57:22] ubispo po
[1:57:23] doon
[1:57:23] na naka
[1:57:24] claimed
[1:57:25] na pinirmahan
[1:57:26] po nila
[1:57:26] na kaibigan
[1:57:28] ko
[1:57:28] linapitan
[1:57:29] ko
[1:57:29] tinanong
[1:57:30] ko
[1:57:31] hindi
[1:57:32] daw po
[1:57:32] sila
[1:57:32] pumirma
[1:57:33] so
[1:57:34] and also
[1:57:37] I would
[1:57:37] like to
[1:57:38] bring to
[1:57:38] the attention
[1:57:39] of the
[1:57:39] committee
[1:57:39] Mr.
[1:57:40] Chair
[1:57:40] na
[1:57:41] Santo Papa
[1:57:43] mismo
[1:57:43] noong
[1:57:44] a week
[1:57:45] ago
[1:57:46] ay nagpahayag
[1:57:48] na
[1:57:48] nuclear
[1:57:49] technology
[1:57:50] needs to
[1:57:50] be used
[1:57:51] for
[1:57:51] peaceful
[1:57:52] means
[1:57:53] meaning
[1:57:54] hindi po
[1:57:55] siya
[1:57:55] tutol
[1:57:56] sa
[1:57:57] nuclear
[1:57:57] technology
[1:57:58] basta
[1:57:59] gamitin
[1:58:00] po
[1:58:00] sa
[1:58:00] peaceful
[1:58:01] means
[1:58:01] hindi
[1:58:01] lang
[1:58:02] po
[1:58:02] para
[1:58:03] sa
[1:58:04] digmaan
[1:58:05] so
[1:58:05] I don't
[1:58:07] know
[1:58:07] where
[1:58:07] the
[1:58:08] local
[1:58:09] bishops
[1:58:09] are
[1:58:10] getting
[1:58:10] the
[1:58:10] idea
[1:58:11] that
[1:58:12] the
[1:58:12] Catholic
[1:58:12] Church
[1:58:13] is
[1:58:13] against
[1:58:14] nuclear
[1:58:14] power
[1:58:15] hindi
[1:58:15] po
[1:58:15] impact
[1:58:17] pabor
[1:58:18] ang
[1:58:18] Catholic
[1:58:19] Church
[1:58:19] sa
[1:58:20] lahat
[1:58:20] ng
[1:58:20] teknolohiya
[1:58:21] na
[1:58:22] makakatulong
[1:58:25] sa
[1:58:25] taong
[1:58:26] bayan
[1:58:26] I
[1:58:27] I
[1:58:27] think
[1:58:27] that
[1:58:28] will
[1:58:28] fall
[1:58:28] on
[1:58:29] the
[1:58:29] shoulders
[1:58:30] of
[1:58:30] the
[1:58:30] Department
[1:58:30] of
[1:58:31] Energy
[1:58:32] for
[1:58:33] information
[1:58:33] dissemination
[1:58:34] correct
[1:58:35] information
[1:58:35] dissemination
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[1:58:43] media
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[1:58:43] go ahead
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[1:58:54] di
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[1:58:58] silang
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[1:58:59] ngayon
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[1:59:01] access
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[1:59:02] so
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[1:59:09] nuclear
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[1:59:11] convention
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[1:59:29] kumpiyansa
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[2:00:00] maraming
[2:00:00] maraming
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[2:00:01] thank you
[2:00:02] for that
[2:00:02] point
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[2:00:04] with
[2:00:05] and
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[2:00:06] without the committee
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[2:00:10] review these
[2:00:10] four nuclear
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[2:00:12] or actually
[2:00:13] five
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[2:00:15] pending document
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[2:00:17] agencies
[2:00:18] to determine
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[2:00:19] recommendation
[2:00:20] for
[2:00:20] concurrence
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[2:00:21] po
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[2:00:23] kulitin
[2:00:24] nyo na
[2:00:24] po
[2:00:24] yung
[2:00:25] odessa
[2:00:26] since there
[2:00:28] are no
[2:00:28] further
[2:00:28] matters
[2:00:29] to take
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[2:00:29] this
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[2:00:30] this
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[2:00:30] is
[2:00:30] hereby
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[2:00:31] senator
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[2:00:33] congressman
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[2:00:34] persons
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[2:00:35] everyone
[2:00:35] present
[2:00:36] for
[2:00:36] your
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[2:00:37] and
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