Senate holds hearing on Roblox, online gaming platforms over child safety — April 14 — Full Transcript (April 14, 2026)

[0:01] morning today's hearing of the committee on women children family relations and gender equality [1:06] is a motu proprio inquiry in aid of legislation on senate resolution number 357 [1:13] this hearing is held with the consent of the majority of the members of the committee [1:18] senate resolution 357 was filed by this representation to look into roblox and other [1:25] online gaming platforms as they are being used as a medium to exploit and abuse children this [1:32] discussion aims to come up with recommendations that will mandate age verification protocols [1:39] and child safety standards among others that being said this hearing is hereby called to order i will [1:47] shortly acknowledge the presence of my colleagues as they arrive so as a way of opening this [1:53] discussion please allow me this short opening statement the central issue up for discussion [1:59] today makes me wish that contemporary life saturated by technology was less complicated [2:07] especially for our children these are moments when i wish children could just play and enjoy [2:12] the benefits of technology benefits that develop their various skills and allow their creativity to [2:19] flourish without exposing them to different kinds of harm that exploit the vulnerabilities of their young [2:27] minds our discussion of senate resolution 357 has a clear and urgent purpose to protect filipino children [2:37] in an increasingly complex digital world what were once seen as harmless spaces for play and creativity [2:46] online gaming platforms have evolved into powerful social environments where children interact [2:53] communicate and unfortunately can also be harmed nakikita po natin kung paano sinasamantala ang mga espasyong ito [3:02] para abusuhin ang ating mga anak these platforms for play may be exploited for online sexual abuse [3:10] and exploitation of children for grooming for extortion and even for the spread of violent and extremist [3:18] ideas isa lang isang halimbawa na rito ay yung nabalitaan natin kamakailan na kaso ng pitong kabataan sa [3:27] laguna na na na-influensahan sa nilalaro nilang online games na magsagawa sana ng karahasan [3:36] these instances remind us that these risks are real immediate and deeply concerning aside from gaming [3:45] platforms kinakasangkapan din ang iba pang internet intermediaries tulad ng facebook kung saan makikitang may [3:53] mga nagbebenta at nagtitrade na mga accounts that are age verified minors may try to buy accounts [4:03] tailored to adults to gain access to a wider variety of content while adult players may seek accounts [4:10] verified for child age cohorts without the benefits of regulation it is concerning that these accounts may [4:19] very very well fall into the hands of bad actors as legislators we must ensure that innovation does [4:28] not come at the price of safety the burden cannot rest solely on parents and children gaming platforms [4:37] and other relevant intermediaries must be held accountable and government must set clear rights-based [4:45] standards that uphold both protection and dignity this hearing is about building a digital environment [4:54] where every filipino child can learn play and interact with others free from the dangers of abuse [5:03] exploitation and harm could i now ask our committee secretary to please acknowledge the resource persons [5:11] present good morning everyone for the record the committee would like to acknowledge the presence of the [5:21] following resource persons from the department of justice we have attorney stephanie garay attorney army [5:30] luques gutcheres bugarin from the national coordinating coordination center against osaik and osaem we have [5:38] attorney barbara may pagdilao flores from the department of information and communication technology [5:47] we have undersecretary sarah season assistant secretary ryan cote from the [5:56] cyber crime investigation cyber crime investigation and coordinating center we have attorney noel carlo [6:02] gracila from the national privacy commission we have attorney vida zora bucar from the national [6:13] telecommunication commission we have commissioner ella blanca lopez deputy commissioner andres castigliar [6:20] junior we have attorney regina aniel cruz velasco then from the department of social welfare and [6:30] development we have assistant secretary side asius from the department of health we have dr brennan marie [6:43] then from the philippine national police we have police colonel romeo desiderio from uh the council for [6:50] the welfare of children we have uh undersecretary angela tapales from the department of trade and industry [6:58] we have miss perpetua we have miss perpetua where lima limb then from the bank of central [7:04] and filipinas we have attorney maria corazon velgera cordero uh attorney regina [7:13] quely orendain attorney katherine may devesa lau then from a depth web connect we have mr luis angelo [7:28] tala tala tala from tara the homes netherland we have miss joanna abilinde from the globe telecom we have [7:42] mr carlo bernardo santos attorney joseph palcontento from smart communication we have mr kenneth [7:54] regagnon and attorney roy ebay from gcash we have attorney mark anthony amurao attorney gilbert scoto [8:08] attorney ramon mathai from roblox corporation will join us online we have miss dickie jackson [8:20] colaco mr edward palmieri mr hunter goldman that's all for thank you uh i saw at least one resource [8:38] person i think from the banco central uh who's not sitting uh at the table please those who are [8:43] acknowledged and are in one of the side chairs please take a chair in the center of the table [8:51] thank you so much okay so unang tanong ko po sa dicp use xara uh sorry ci cc first attorney gracila so [9:16] so attorney gracila uh wala na po ba sa usapan yung ban laban sa roblox could you uh expound on this [9:35] um mr chair actually the cicc the position of the cicc is uh is anchored on the compliance before [9:48] restriction your honor considering that uh there are already avenues uh talks made with roblox corporation [9:58] as to the demands of the primarily of the philippine government as to the certain compliances to them [10:09] uh they are being requested your honor for a formal compliance directive was issued to roblox [10:16] corporation uh requiring them for the implementation of robust age verification systems enhanced content [10:25] moderation and detection tools safeguards preventing unsupervised interaction between minor and unknown [10:34] adults improve transparency in reporting and enforcement mechanism consideration of local accountability [10:42] measures and what has been uh roblox's response so far to this uh compliance directive on age [10:58] verification safeguards transparency and accountability actually during the meeting your honor uh they uh [11:08] a meeting that they have attended upon invitation of the dicp your honor uh they have uh manifested their [11:16] willingness to comply but uh as of now as far as i can remember your honor there is for this week there [11:26] they will be presenting certain uh improvements in their system your honor well that's good to hear uh [11:34] attorney gracila uh the committee will strive to get those uh responses also from roblox and then from [11:42] uh other regulators in partnership with the ciccdicp during this hearing to also guide our own uh [11:48] legislative process towards regulating uh such online gaming platforms for the safety of our children [11:56] all right thank you thank you uh attorney gracila first time i've seen that designation highly technical consultant [12:06] highly po talaga just just for my okay i was curious now i know something new thank you attorney gracila [12:13] uh kung pwede ko pong matanong ang pnp uh acg uh colonel desiderio uh pwede po bang [12:22] ma-confirm for the record iyong nangyari sa isang eskwelahan sa calabar zone kung saan muntik [12:30] magkaroon di umano ng school shooting dahil di umano sa conversation na nung una nangyari daw sa roblox [12:39] uh so i'm asking for the benefit also of our uh resource persons online i'm asking the good [12:45] colonel to confirm that reported incident uh of a school shooting that was prevented uh in the calabar zone [12:54] region uh which reportedly began in con the discussions began in conversations on roblox [13:01] can you walk us through that case colonel of course while leaving out the identifying details [13:07] of those minors involved yes ma'am uh for the information mom of this uh committee first uh we [13:16] have conducted rescue operation of seven high school students this is uh on the preemption of violence [13:22] school in calamba laguna so that was on january 13 of this year uh the information came from our [13:31] foreign counterpart and the atfg so they become aware concerning this uh facebook communication by [13:39] one user uh colonel sino po yung and before uh i post my interjecting question the chair would just [13:46] like to acknowledge uh your colleagues the presence of senator aimee marco salamat for joining the [13:51] hearing uh after just after this question to the colonel i'll ask if you have any opening statement [13:57] salamat po yes colonel uh please proceed uh yung binanggit nyo pong may nag-report sa inyo sino po ba [14:03] yung nag-report kasi balita po namin foreign law enforcement pa ito yes ma'am foreign law enforcement [14:09] since uh we are member the pnpacg is member of the atfg anti-terrorism fusion group so so on january 13 [14:21] this year said ma'am uh we were informed by this uh foreign law enforcement agency through our uh [14:29] anti-terrorism fusion group concerning uh fb community uh facebook communication by the user [14:38] r a r a h so excuse me again colonel sorry uh ang facebook po ba comsec and ito sa hearing natin [14:45] it originated from roblox mom yes madam chair they're not represented uh but we the committee invited [15:01] facebook to be a resource person correct so why are they not present uh madam chair we invited uh [15:13] facebook but they did not reply to our uh letter oh my didn't even reply i thought at the very least [15:20] they would have a a reason or a or an acceptable excuse all right that's well noted by the chair i [15:26] hope it won't require the chair uh subpoenaing uh facebook just to attend the hearing uh where their [15:34] platform is one of those that we would like to draw in to regulation because as the colonel just [15:40] mentioned and as he knows um these disturbing incidents on roblox uh also occurred no in a wider [15:50] circle uh on facebook meta so please proceed colonel so now quantum information mom through our facebook [16:01] uh messages so the messages uh reference on uh past mass attacks and discuss using uh for extinguisher for a [16:11] uh plus blinding effect i.e this or the improvised explosive devices and uh molotov cocktails so it also [16:20] stated desired to carry out a school shooting locally and an intent to die by suicide so ito mga information [16:28] uh nakuha natin sa facebook messages na to then the message also asserted the family possession of [16:36] firearms is already inquired at a firing range on how to practice gun shooting then some information [16:44] mentioned plans to wear the natural selection or the hitler shirts yung sana nazis uh then post a final [16:54] youtube message and write a manifesto so ito yung ginawa nung ating uh na rescue ma'am then they plan [17:02] to conduct a mass shooting on supposed to be february 16 2026 during the foundations uh foundation [17:11] week along with these six friends so the intervention was made by a pnp acg so the content and rescue [17:19] operation with this uh seven present together with the dswd of lg us and including also the local police [17:32] and for the record mom also for information this committee we have conducted already five rescue [17:39] operations so aside from this kalamba another five rescue operations this involved the rescue of 12 [17:46] minors and the areas include marquina las piñas negros accidental and pampanga and currently we have [17:59] uh seven cases now ongoing for the conduct of this rescue so for the preparation of this uh thank you [18:07] ma'am thank you so much colonel desiderio sobrang nakakabahala po talagang 180 degrees away from gaming [18:15] no itong mga uh planong gumamit ng mga sandata gumawa ng karahasan laban sa mga kapwa estudyante at [18:24] hanggang sa sarili uh the use of of firearms uh yung mga narecover ng pnp na mga uh t-shirts uh with with [18:37] those messages with those teams uh yun pong limang operasyon pa dun sa naka rescue ng lapindalawang [18:45] minors sa metro manila luzon at visayas nagbunga ng seven cases ito po ba ay panay sa roblox din at least [18:55] nagsimula yung mga pag-uusap ng mga minors na yon yes ma'am as per study ng ating uh uh unit in the [19:03] icg so it all started in roblox so baka it's just a matter of time i hope not na meron pa kayong [19:11] uh kailanganin i-rescue pati sa mindanao kasi parang kumakalat no based on these uh previous [19:18] operations uh sino po yung grupo na kumausap sa mga bata at least dun sa kaso sa laguna terrorist [19:25] group ba to foreign group ba ito ano kaya yung endgame nila uh actually ma'am it will uh goes back [19:32] dun sa tinatawag nating nihilistic uh violent extremism or the nba so most of the groomer nag [19:39] groom sa mga bata natin ma'am or sa mga children na minors uh they they are from uh abroad also [19:53] only one one listed lang namin sa aming data is only one yung sa filipino but uh the big team [19:59] is abroad naman so balik that and the yung ating nihilistic violent extremism ma'am uh we have this [20:10] uh yung extremism where individual intent ma'am no the individuals or group commit or advocate [20:21] violence because they believe life society or human existence has no value or may so may mga group dito [20:28] ma'am uh suspected yung information na pinuproved sa atin ng ating ano foreign law enforcement agency [20:37] counterpart so yung victim ang tinuturo sa atin dito ma'am since the once na nakuha na natin [20:45] information so we provide the information report sa ating foreign counterpart law enforcement agency [20:50] so sila na yung nagpapalab doon sa areas of concern and uh that's why yung ating uh acg ma'am the pnp so we [21:01] have no cyber patroller uh mostly mostly dito sa ating mga gaming apps sa particularly sa roblox nga [21:09] so nagpa patrolling tayo doon and we had also meeting with roblox recently yung sinabi nyo [21:19] colonel na paniniwala nila na life has no value balita nga po namin bukod dun sa natural selection t-shirts may [21:28] narecover din kayong t-shirts na ang nakalagay ay no lives matter so meron ganun talaga [21:33] silang uh may ganun talaga silang uh philosophy ano po yung profile ng mga students colonel [21:40] uh nasa public schools ba sila private schools ba sila naka enroll at ano yung income profiles [21:46] ng mga magulang nila actually ma'am the age profile is between 12 years old to 15 years old most of our [21:55] rescued uh minors then uh sa school naman majority of them are studying some private schools so yung [22:08] income profile ay masasabi ng mga magulang ay masasabi ba nating uh middle class hanggang [22:15] mayaman hanggang upper lower class based on sana ma'am na rescue lang natin current data so since nasa [22:24] private school we assume nasa middle age to a middle income and uh high income families and uh [22:34] uh kaya nang sinabi nyo ito ng operasyon na mag rescue lahat mga bata na initially in rooms you use the [22:43] word grooming eh dati naririnig lang ng committee ito ang grooming kaugnay ng osa x isa m pero pati pala [22:50] nila dito sa tinawag niyong nihilistic violent extremism may grooming ah nakita nyo yung pattern na na [22:58] observe itong lahat na seven cases at least sa sa roblox yes ma'am uh actually when we collect the data [23:05] uh some of them uh goes on ideology on nazisim ma'am ito yung uh political principles of the national [23:17] socialist german workers party yung kay adult hitler then some on satanism since uh minarecover din kami [23:27] uh they often view as a symbol of individualism and rebellion then other is yung order of the nine [23:34] angels yung sa occult then some are no uh on idolizing personalities particularly involved in violent [23:45] extremism or violence uh mostly yung mga mass shooting incident happened in the us australia more [23:53] recently so they idolize these uh personalities so mukhang nag-converge sa uh sa mga incidents na to [24:04] maraming negative influences nagsasanib-sanib at nagbubuha ng ganito mga konkretong incidents all right [24:11] salamat maraming salamat colonel at this point uh senator aini would you like to make an opening statement [24:17] thank you very much i was very enthusiastic about joining this um motopropia hearing [24:24] dahil uh full disclosure lang ako ay nagpapatakbo dati ng isang animation and game development studio [24:33] sa totoo lang ganadong ganado ako nung lumabas nga itong roblox na to i was a fan in the very beginning [24:40] uh given that it gave kids the opportunity to create new worlds to uh embed themselves in gaming universe [24:51] and even upload and create games so i thought it was a very thrilling enterprise and i had full support for [24:58] it given that uh we had so many uh game development efforts and uh since it's such a rich field of [25:05] creativity full disclosure further is i am the principal sponsor of the uh creative industries law and as a [25:15] result uh malapit talaga sa puso ko to eh nakaka nakakatismaya lang na nagagamit ito sa masasamang [25:24] um pakay ng iba salamat uh senator aimi isa palang follow-up question kay colonel ito pong mga [25:34] studyante na na recoveran nyo ng firearms at napag-alaman ng pnp nakapag practice sa firing range [25:42] paano po nila nakuha oo oo paano na procure yung firearms online din po ba uh actually ma'am wala [25:49] po tayong firearms na na recover dito merong ano airsoft then mga replica apo sa las piñas area so [26:04] merong um sabi nyo nga replica so may role playing talaga yes gamit yung uh airsoft at saka ibang replica [26:13] ng firearms na yun all right salamat po uh colonel so uh whether pnp acg pa rin or cicc ulit ano [26:24] how does the abuse uh take place pwede nyo bang i walk through ang committing ito uh sa roblox ba lahat [26:33] nangyayari or dun nagsisimula and then later imamigrate sa ibang mga platforms good morning [26:40] your owners there are two forms of abuses that happens in gaming that both in gaming platforms [26:47] in general we can say that um one is the abuse that happens when it comes to uh the the game itself [26:54] the content itself so whether the contents are violent that are not age appropriate or they contain [27:00] sexual materials these are the abuses that happen and then there's the second part of the abuse [27:04] doon nawin siya sabi ni nang uh chair na yung grooming na nangyayari where they are uh [27:10] uh groomed to kung halimbawa naglalaro padalas ng mga violent games na yan tina target [27:15] ito mga batang to para naman ilipat sa ibang platform messaging platform doon naman ini indoctrinate [27:20] tinuturoan paano mag commit na violence or if the they they see the children that are active [27:26] when it comes to adult contents doon naman nangyayari yung mga osaik sisim cases naman [27:31] ho natin so these are the two forms of abuses that cicc has monitored during the uh on these [27:36] platforms so one can be remedied by content regulation by the platforms itself but again [27:42] i think there is need for government intervention when it comes to the second form of abuse when it [27:46] comes to grooming and yung nililipat sa mga ibang platforms mga batang to thank you your honors [27:51] thank you yes senator ann yes uh nasabi mo na kinakailangan government intervention we were given to [27:58] understand that on april 7th the ict was all set to uh ban roblox is that correct pero and that in [28:07] fact roblox is now going to uh turn out facial recognition all kinds of ids age uh age segmented [28:16] versions for kids etc uh is that correct yes you six sara please to reiterate about the meeting good [28:24] morning madam chair good morning senator marcus yes um i'm confirming that uh initially secretary [28:30] aguda in behalf of the ict has announced the the supposed ban of uh roadblocks they have reached out [28:40] uh the ict has reached out to roadblocks to inform them of this band and the executive committee of [28:45] roadblocks who are present online flew in the philippines uh to have a meeting with the secretary and [28:53] our team uh last april 7th this happened uh your honor after the ict had a stakeholders meeting in [29:02] our headquarters uh with stake uh with uh representatives of the youth sector children uh other government [29:10] agencies uh that happened the week prior uh in that meeting with the ict the executives committed as you [29:17] had said your honor um to have the safety measures in place and announced uh globally uh this week the [29:25] most uh significant of the announcements there your honor is um automatic ban in the messaging app which [29:32] they have already implemented and then automatic fan of what of them of the messaging of the chat uh [29:39] sorry i'm confused uh what are they banning the chat uh function in the roadblocks no chance at all [29:47] no chats at all your honor oh is that correct yes uh banning the chat mode yes so so they have done [29:53] that universal or only in the philippines it's universal your honor for only for nine years old [30:00] and below so it's entirely banned um under nine years okay uh please proceed yeah your honor for the [30:12] nine to 15 years old okay and um i would like the roadblocks um executives to correct me if i'm wrong [30:18] from nine to 15 years old they informed us that um it's conditional and uh conditioned upon what [30:26] age um age verification your honor and parental controls your honor yes but uh anyone between [30:34] nine to fifteen is allowed to uh chat or not what are they going to verify because it's happy more nine [30:40] to fifteen uh so if that's the case what's the condition your honor we were informed that um it's [30:48] conditioned on parental consent and uh uh proper age verification senator amy maybe we can ask the [30:57] roblox uh resource persons yes so would you like to uh chime in on this what exactly uh are the [31:08] commitments being made initially uh by roblox uh regarding uh these uh safeguards um thank you uh [31:19] chairperson may i um read some prepared remarks to establish maybe just maybe just up the volume yes [31:26] could you increase your volume we can not hear you very well okay and before your statement uh which [31:36] the chair will allow you to read could you please just initially uh answer the the questions at bar at [31:42] present uh unless that's the main content of your prepared statement what you're committing at least to [31:49] government uh to do it is all right how long is your prepared statement two minutes yes please proceed [31:59] okay um madam chairperson distinguished members of the committee good morning my name is nikki [32:06] jackson colosso and i am vice president and global head of public policy at roblox and i'm joined here [32:11] today by my colleague edward palmary who is senior director of public policy and interim head of asia pacific [32:17] i'd like to thank all of you for the opportunity to appear here today our mission in the philippines [32:24] remains clear to provide a safe transparent and innovative digital environment for all filipinos [32:30] and we recognize that with our growth comes a profound responsibility to protect young [32:35] and the most vulnerable users i'm here today not just to provide an overview of some of the questions [32:41] that you've asked already but also to share a fundamental shift in how we're approaching safety [32:48] just yesterday as some of you referenced earlier we announced a global overhaul of our safety systems [32:55] with the introduction of roblox kids mode and roblox select mode these updates represent a transition [33:04] to a fully safety by default model and by early june we will move away from the one-size-fits-all approach [33:11] that we have had historically and instead implement a tiered system that automatically [33:17] aligns a user's experience with their developmental stage specifically in response to some of your [33:23] questions we are introducing one roblox kids for ages five through eight these accounts will have [33:30] communication disabled by default and will be restricted to a vetted catalog of games that have [33:38] passed a rigorous multi-step screening process two roblox select accounts for ages 9 to 15 these accounts [33:47] offer age appropriate flexibility while maintaining strict guardrails on content maturity of note [33:55] children ages 9 to 15 will be able to chat but the chat will be filtered and they can only chat with [34:02] people in similar age groups although if their parents want to authorize additional users as trusted [34:08] friends they're able to do that but it is a more limited chat functionality we announced enhanced [34:14] parental controls giving filipino parents unprecedented visibility allowing them to block specific games [34:22] or experiences or approve others that they may feel are developmentally appropriate for their children [34:28] as well as creator accountability so for a game to reach any of the younger audiences that i'm [34:34] mentioning right now they will have to go undergo full id verification and maintain higher security [34:41] standards we want to assure you that we do understand the unique cultural and social values [34:47] of the philippines just last week as some of you have mentioned our team was on the ground meeting with [34:54] many of you and we look forward to continuing that engagement these global updates are designed to [34:58] complement those local efforts and to ensure that the internet remains a space for learning and creativity [35:04] rather than one for risk and we believe that by integrating world-class age check technology [35:10] and ai-driven moderation we are we hope to set a new standard for platform accountability thank you [35:17] thank you ms kalako yes senator ime yes thank you very much chairwoman um may i ask have any of these [35:24] efforts been piloted elsewhere in the world um the uh roblox for kids the 9 to 15 that's limited and [35:33] restricted to uh same age group and parental consent have they been piloted elsewhere in the world um senator [35:43] we just announced these uh changes uh yesterday they will be implemented in the coming weeks and um we [35:50] will begin a global rollout so there won't be a pilot but there will be a slow rollout so that those [35:56] changes can propagate i will mention that the age check technology that i referenced the facial age estimation [36:04] which allows us to understand how old a child is for the purposes of preventing stranger interaction [36:10] we have rolled out we began rolling that out last fall so that is well beyond pilot stage that is [36:17] implementation stage so the face verification has been uh uh tried and tested elsewhere yes senator yes [36:26] the reason i'm asking is of course uh the um rank skepticism we have about roblox um parental control [36:36] tools you've been very unsuccessful in the past and there have been huge complaints for many many [36:42] parents that the moderation policies the guardrails the safeguards that your staff you established are so [36:48] complex and uh so uh difficult to access that there were no roadblocks at all um are they still as [36:57] complicated that's the reason i'm asking if any of this has been tested uh whereas we have your promise [37:04] and we believe your sincere effort the reality is you haven't been very successful in the past yeah [37:11] senator um thank you for that feedback um our goal is to ensure that parents have a seamless experience [37:19] when they're using parental controls i'm a mother um and i know how difficult this is so we want to [37:26] make sure that those parental controls are easy to use and i believe over the last 18 months in particular [37:31] we have significantly simplified parental control so i'm optimistic that the answer to your question is [37:37] yes i also want to assure you that we do keep in mind that some parents um through no fault of their [37:44] own or through no lack of interest are simply unable to manage parental controls um sometimes they [37:50] don't have the time or um the tools seem complicated we want to ensure that the default experience for [37:57] children yes precisely yes because in the past your uh your safeguards were hardly intuitive impossible to [38:05] navigate and there was simply no way to access them how are we assured that this time it will be [38:10] different hashtag usec season in the ict have you tried these uh new uh new roadblocks for kids the [38:18] 9 to 15 filtering etc have you tried the face recognition does it work at least here in the philippines [38:26] your honor if i may pass it yes exactly to to you think about you said so [38:31] what i mean is that they are actually an attached agency under us that's why i realize that but uh [38:46] these are matters of uh intense it concern that uh by right you should also try yes your honor it's fun [38:53] anyway it is please go ahead with the permission of the chair yes madam chair we have tried and we have [39:02] extensively researched all the parental consents uh the parental controls of roadblocks and that's [39:07] why we came up with the report and recommendation that it's it's simply not enough especially with [39:12] the philippine setting we have disclosed this sorry what's not enough the parental controls that [39:16] were already set by roadblocks yes and then with the age verification we seem to have a problem and [39:31] when it comes to the facial recognition that is being used by roadblocks as their basis for each [39:37] verification okay the roblox vice president is telling us that we've moved forward and it's much [39:42] better now and the face uh verification has been utilized uh nasumbukan na ba ninyo you say yes po and [39:49] then really uh new and improved no uh i think they rolled out this in in april no they rolled those out last [39:57] fall in the in the states so this is us but does it work it has its two posts madam chair it has it [40:06] it has its loopholes we were able to uh register uh adults as kids i heard the face recognition is not [40:17] infallible yes yes madam how bad is it i mean uh 70 percent let's give it a grade again uh madam chair we [40:26] were able to uh register adults as kids and they were able to talk as kids based on the the the [40:33] parameters set by the same and the guardrails set by set by uh uh roblox i agree i agree madam chair [40:41] i agree madam chair that's why one of the recommendations of cicc and the ict was to [40:46] attach the facial that because i from what i heard from roadblocks and i we do appreciate the the the [40:52] the effort the effort that there will be full id verification and our recommendation is that full [40:57] id verification when comes to the philippine setting be tied up to our physical bill system [41:02] as our single source of truth madam chair yeah you have you have to forgive us roblox for being [41:07] paranoid we have to be given our uh nasty history of uh cyber pornography of children uh that being the [41:15] case uh we have to tighten these face identification so in addition um have we given roblox uh measurable [41:26] and time bound deliverables uh we are we you were all set to ban them and then uh have you given them [41:34] a time frame to prove otherwise and uh hold off the ban meron bang time frame one quarter three months [41:43] then yes yes your honor um the first time frame is to actually implement it starting this week [42:06] because we had the meeting because we had the meeting but hanggang kelan may cut off because [42:10] hindi po pwede palulusotin yung kay colonel desiderio hindi yan forever [42:15] e bigyan na nga natin ang mga safeguards okay lang subukan natin ilang pwan okay lang pero matapos yun [42:23] kailangan we have to take action otherwise mag-meeting na naman chairwoman ko yes your honor certainly we [42:31] just don't want to have continuous meetings with them so aside from the launch this week they are actually [42:36] so what's the deadline begin nothing with the deadline madam chair with the permission of the [42:43] church yes madam chair initially they were set to be banned uh uh april 10 but when uh we gave uh when [42:49] we had that meeting with them they committed and they were uh to be honest it was a very fruitful [42:54] meeting they committed to all the requests of the cicc and the icp first is to have a regional office [42:59] here yes senator ime i just would like to pick up on what you said uh paraiso mentioned that was going [43:07] to be one of my uh questions towards the close of this hearing yes would it be better for platforms [43:13] like roblox to actually have offices and representatives in country and then i would go [43:18] back to roblox since you mentioned you said that they committed to establish an office here if that is [43:24] firm and what's the time frame for that to answer the first question yes not only with roblox but with [43:30] any other platforms it would be best to have uh regional or uh representative offices here for [43:35] many purposes first and foremost is a reporting mechanism where we can talk to them have them banned [43:40] uh uh illegal uh having an outpost in the philippines does not stop prevent them from uh causing mayhem [43:52] from overseas we already heard from colonel desiderio ang nagreport foreign foreign law enforcement and [43:58] anti-terrorism group so nagagawa pa rin yan sa abroad digital nga to hindi naman to analog na kailangan [44:05] ng headquarter i i agree madam chair but i mean uh as a chairwoman said may pagre-reklamuhan i agree [44:12] madam chair and we recognize the fact that the cicc and the icc be open to establishing a three-month [44:19] deadline for example for uh these changes maybe shorter sorry but maybe shorter madam chair shorter [44:27] better for us and being uh liberal here as a game developer but what is that shorter [44:35] time frame they committed that they would be implementing and they would be providing us with [44:45] the roadmap this week so if past this week and by next week there would be no clear roadmap and you're [44:50] no clear commitment i'm not talking about only the roadmap policy the changes announced by uh roblox [44:57] what i'm talking about is that there are deficiencies even with the changes provided [45:02] so our i am saying three months within that period we were shorter as you said so it's not just the [45:10] road map it's the actual workings of those parental controls that in the past never worked so so [45:18] we already agreed that the uh the filtering for the 9 to 16 and the face recognition is not infallible [45:25] that is it it is it has in fact been cracked by many kids here in the philippines uh yung face recognition [45:34] parang uh they were able to do that so from a policy standpoint and from a technical standpoint three [45:40] months would be enough uh madam chair for them to from uh for the information yes madam chair so uh shall we [45:49] put the three months down we agree madam chair yung isa pa ano yung measurable uh di ba dapat time [45:56] bound and measurable change diba what's measurable uh magre report by yung mga parents how do we know it's [46:04] working magre report ba sa pnp wala nang reklamo uh how do we measure this uh it's always an issue yeah you [46:13] sexy son otherwise there are no real changes yes you succeed please yes your honor um for measurable [46:25] definitely uh we requested for them to report to us and the pnp uh in the the technical changes that [46:33] they have implemented yes reporting is fine but uh will they implement the changes for requesting for [46:40] example they are required to um implemented your honor in addition to the technical change [47:01] with the permission of the chair madam chair um yes there are measurable kpis that we can implement [47:06] first is uh the establishment of our of our representative office second is the when would [47:12] they be able to implement and integrate the phil system into their age verification excuse [47:17] music but i saw so means calaco by when will roblox be establishing an office here in the philippines [47:25] um senator i'm not in a position tonight to to address that simply because right now roblox is a fraction of [47:33] the size of some of the other companies um and right now we don't have representative offices [47:38] almost anywhere outside the us so it would be something i would need to speak about with [47:43] other members of the team at roblox and we certainly can continue that conversation but at [47:49] least in principle would it be possible that such an office office be established within the one [47:54] quarter time frame we're talking about for the implementation of the reforms that you're announcing [48:00] unfortunately i i'm unable to answer that only because i don't know what is operationally involved in [48:06] establishing an office so i would have to talk to members of our legal team and others in our [48:11] localization all right fair enough but the committee will get back to roblox on that [48:16] uh because though as you say you have a complement of people smaller than other online platforms but it [48:25] seems by the hearing so far roblox is accounting for an inordinate number of the cases that we are [48:32] we are concerned about so it might really be worth your while to to uh actually establish an office [48:40] in country as other black as other uh entities like facebook meta are doing yes you said if i may yes [48:48] uh thank you very much uh to uh roblox and i uh i've been involved with many startups in the past i know [48:57] how meager your staffing is and that it is not practice to have uh national headquarters but um may [49:04] i just uh urge that you give special attention or have some staff member check in on the philippines time [49:11] and again given as i said our dreadful history of child pornography online uh we are uh totally [49:18] paranoid about this sort of thing because it's happened too many times before and became a full [49:23] blown industry so if you could just please give us special attention and perhaps assign a staff member [49:31] even in your own office just to check in with us from time to time and someone that we can uh complain to [49:39] is that possible senator and chairperson i just want to reiterate yes we absolutely agree with that [49:45] and in fact we we hope heartily agree with that in fact we've recently um moved to a regional model [49:52] where we're starting to branch out so we have more local time zone support for the region including the [49:58] philippines and um and additionally we've um we're communicating 24 7 resources to make sure that [50:06] that law enforcement and other representatives um connected to cicc will have 24 7 access directly to [50:13] um roblox personnel to address any concerns you have because we agree we want to make sure there's [50:18] strong partnership and we we want to make sure we're available regardless of where those people may be [50:24] physically located speaking of local uh time zones i recall uh in the opening statement of ms calaco [50:32] you said that the reforms you're announcing and will be implemented represent a fundamental shift a [50:39] global overhaul of safety systems and now local zones is this because aside from the philippines [50:45] roblox has also had problems for example we've been reading about cases in singapore in germany even in [50:52] the united states is it in response uh to those problems in different countries around the world that [50:58] it's actually a global overhaul that you've just announced yes senator it is a global overhaul um [51:05] i think of it as a natural evolution roblox has gotten much bigger over time um and as many [51:12] platforms grow of course we see more scrutiny on them we also know that technology has changed so [51:19] the facial age estimation tool that we're talking about um you know that technology is a newer technology [51:26] and we have been able to use that to prevent unwanted chat between different groups we're now [51:32] um using it for content so i think it's less about responding to the world and more a natural evolution [51:39] of our product thank you very much yes i'm sorry no no no uh before before i continue back to senator [51:48] before i continue with the pnp and cicc just one more follow-up at this point miss galako in your [51:54] statement you also mentioned safety by default with other platforms we've been hearing safety by design [52:01] are these one in the same are they different from each other and if so why the difference [52:07] in the term safety by default and what's the substantive difference in terms of the concept [52:12] and the operationalization i think they're similar senator safety by design means that when you are [52:20] building a product you are working with your product and engineering teams to make sure that you're [52:24] never retrofitting for safety that safety is always part of the inception and the design process to that [52:31] we also take that philosophy and that approach we are adding the default status because we want parents [52:38] to have comfort that even if they couldn't go in and change any settings that their child would have [52:45] the safest experience possible for a given age thank you uh miss galako sorry madam chair if i may add to [52:54] that discussion um in my involvement uh with the fight against uh cyber pornography the reality is safety [53:02] was default implied that a violation at first to occur and the default mode would be to clamp it down [53:09] and safety would finally occur however safety by design was embedded at the outset so that was the [53:16] understanding uh back in the day but i'm very very grateful to roblox to vp calaco being a mom like you [53:23] said as we are and we do hope that you can provide us the name of the staffer or complaint desk uh as soon as [53:34] possible because we would like to get this up and running like i said earlier i was a very early [53:42] fangirl of roblox given that you uh provided an opportunity to uh creatives to make up their own [53:50] universe and uh upload a game that was actually playable so that was quite thrilling at least in [53:57] the beginning until these uh horror stories uh proliferated thank you very much thank you [54:03] senator aimi isa pang follow-up at this point kay you said para iso bukod dun sa grooming for violent [54:09] extremism ano pang ibang klasing mga unlawful or dangerous conversations ang nangyayari sa mga bata [54:17] dito sa platform ng roblox so madam chair as uh we have uh mentioned and uh we have documented and uh we we [54:26] really we're very keen on documenting these uh not only grooming is uh well occurred here but also [54:33] that the children are exposed to sex for sexual uh and mature contents in the platform thus giving [54:40] and paving the way for osaixis im cases to be proliferated in the platform madam chairs so um and [54:47] again again there's uh extremism uh and sometimes uh with the the chats are being used to uh conduct [54:55] illicit criminal activities and i i to be fair to roadblocks i don't think it's only peculiar to [55:00] roadblocks i think every game or every that has a chat function would be susceptible to this that they [55:05] are being used to mask illegal transactions for uh guns uh for uh firearms trades for drugs trades so [55:13] it's not it's not peculiar only the roadblocks but i think it it's best that we let them know that [55:19] that these are also happening in the platform madam chair and to add to uh the kpis that uh senator [55:25] i was right that's right yung kpi kasi yun ang importante diba so unang una nagkasundo tayo tatlong [55:31] buwan yes okay so probation period ika nga yes but the other one talagang nangako sila they promised [55:38] us that we had someone to call or to complain to once we receive a police report a parent complaint [55:45] etc so uh uh i hope they can give a special attention like i said earlier because we've had so much [55:52] trouble with cyber in the past and children so yung ikalawa kung sinong tatawagan yung ikatlo yung [55:59] bilanggit mo kanina yung sinabi mo yung kpis uh along that three month period anong mangyayari [56:06] ng mga deliverables so madam chair again and to be fair to uh when we spoke with edward and his [56:11] team when they were here in in the philippines they already named the person that we can contact [56:16] to contact with 24 7 for two particular reporting mechanisms one is to report [56:23] the content based violations uh if it's age inappropriate or sexual content and second and [56:30] when it comes to threat actors that the bnp and the law enforcement agencies have identified [56:35] we would be able to get the credentials of these persons and go after them so if they're they're [56:39] here in the philippines or if they're abroad then maybe we can uh utilize some of the functions cross [56:44] country uh uh functions that we can do to go after these criminals that's fine for local incidents [56:50] so uh okay so third uh fourthly siguro masasabi ko siguro kung meron tayong time bound meron tayong [57:07] kpi what are the sanctions anong parusa within the three month period palpak anong gagawin we will [57:17] extend the three month period for them to rectify systems or we will not extend there have to be [57:24] sanctions ano are we going to extend that or because we admit the inability to regulate this uh roblox and [57:33] such other games will just shut it down uh i'm open also to any possibility [57:41] madam chair that when we proposed the ban it's because we weren't able to talk the roadblocks and [57:46] to cicc and when we reviewed this since they're not an entity within the philippines they're not [57:51] entitled to the protection of our laws either madam chair so that's why we went for the ban and then they [57:56] came to us they were able to talk to us and then they committed but that that that the execution of [58:03] that ban is bound by their commitment and their by their implementation of those commitments madam chair [58:10] so i think it's important to reiterate that you said the suspension of the implementation of a ban [58:17] is conditional on their compliance so feeling that the ban could still be implemented and into our [58:24] mind parang probation period yung sinasabing three months diba kung magde-deliver sila lang [58:30] yung kpi contento tayo tapos pati yung systemic changes na undertake naman tapos yung quant yun nga yung [58:38] sanctions kasi as a general rule diba meron tayong uh una prayer warning kapag may fair warning ayan [58:45] so sabihin sila oh may mga complaint tapos may the usual notice of takedown diba magte-take down [58:52] tayo sabihin muna natin hey you better get your act together one month left and it's still the same [58:57] parang ganon diba meron ba tayong sistema nya tapos finally yung takedown na talagang uh ipa block na yan [59:05] so let's understand what will happen within that period of three months so with with there are no being clear [59:10] regulations when it comes to entities outside the philippines the only option that we have really [59:14] used to we can we can we can simply say that yes banning it that's it you're saying no pero pero [59:23] they're very cooperative they volunteered to change so many things they provided us contacts um that [59:31] being the case uh there's room to negotiate and uh to discuss suspensions or other uh preliminary action [59:40] so uh we don't like uh we don't like taking down stuff like this i i uh i i as i said i admit i i i have [59:49] game dev in my heart so uh i'm trying to save something but [59:53] uh uh uh uh within the philippine uh uh internet sphere uh madam chair effective ban [1:00:10] ban so of of these platforms whether they're web-based or app-based and i agree with the uh [1:00:28] uh the honorable senator aymi marcos that the any any actions prior to the banning would be subject to an [1:00:35] agreement and a commitment by both the government and and and the platforms madam chair but ultimately [1:00:41] again the power to uh limit them or to uh exclude them from the philippine sphere is in an entire [1:00:48] is an option that's available to us madam chair but again i agree that subject to go to the agreement [1:00:53] between roblox and the philippines there can be warnings first and there could be measurable kpis to [1:00:59] tell them that they are failing with their commitments so anong example alimbawa can you give an [1:01:08] example of um in action or action that would result in banning after that three month period or even [1:01:16] before that three month period but but the example for me may alam kami ng pnp alam namin kung ano yung [1:01:23] ground at alam rin ang telco para walang sisihan so right now the grounds will establish them at the [1:01:28] outset so madam chair right now what is available to us is that reporting mechanism with roadblocks [1:01:33] uh kasi hindi pa natin alam kung kailan sila mag-establish the office or when they would integrate [1:01:37] the bill system but right now we have that more reporting mechanism and if that reporting mechanism fails [1:01:43] for example we report something they fail to take action or we subpoena someone and they fail to uh [1:01:49] give us the credentials of that that threat actor or that criminal online using their platform [1:01:54] then that's a failure of of their commitment with the philippine government and that can be that [1:02:01] yes your honor ah legal ka naman music yes i'm the head of legal can you just establish some ground [1:02:10] and such other acts syempre may may catch all sa huli pero in such other acts na lang pero you put there [1:02:16] na nga yung uh failure to ganyan to uh to take action on failure to contact failure to accept to [1:02:23] revise system etc that are deemed inadequate pakilista na lang para klaro sa atin lahat lalo na sa pnp [1:02:30] kung ano yung mali at tama at hindi mas sabit yung telco natin at walang sisihan para claro yes thank you [1:02:38] thank you thank you yes your honor um madam chair if i may just thank you sir sir yes your honor [1:02:54] so madam chair and senator aini um as head of the legal of the ict we commit to provide this uh [1:03:01] document uh within two weeks your honor um within within the end of this week your honor moreover um [1:03:10] may i just um uh emphasize that we are already establishing the communications pipeline with [1:03:16] roadblocks this week your honor so uh the green lane as well as the assigned uh person to be reporting [1:03:23] to us and to cicc as well as um to the pnp uh will be determined uh within the week your honor and we [1:03:29] will be reporting to the committee accordingly and uh in response to your compliance directive [1:03:36] they have submitted their four reforms in writing already they have your honor um and i think there [1:03:41] will be or not yet adjust the statement um may i stand corrected they have submitted their statement [1:03:52] and uh and the bullet points but uh we will be asking them for it in writing your honor and then the [1:03:58] department can in turn attach the details of what will be required of them beginning with this first [1:04:03] quarter succeeding quarter of this yes madam chair all right yes that will be provided [1:04:09] with the uh statement and the opening of uh bp kalako we weren't quite able to absorb all the [1:04:17] changes we uh uh enumerated yes miss galako would like to do that hold them to their promise thank you [1:04:24] thank you senator ami and yes miss galako you want to interject you have your hand up hello um i just wanted to [1:04:32] add um we we absolutely agree with the commitment to formalize strong communications with dict and cicc to [1:04:42] make sure that one we're aligned on where our price stands with the enhancements that we announced [1:04:50] yesterday additionally our sincere hope is that well in advance of any concerns that get to the point [1:04:57] where you feel like banning is required that well in advance of that we have been in communications we [1:05:05] can address any of those concerns promptly and swiftly so that is our that is our sincere hope and [1:05:10] commitment and in addition to the the um staff person that we've got in the region from a time zone [1:05:16] perspective we also will follow up with the contact information for 24 7 resources that way well before [1:05:24] anything gets out of hand we can make sure that we're in tight communication and address any concerns [1:05:30] thank you the committee appreciates the uh communication you've had so far both with the [1:05:35] dic tcicc and the philippine national police but we also want to be satisfied in our legislative work [1:05:43] that those commitments those new ways of working of roblox moving forward together with the philippine [1:05:49] regulators will be institutionalized uh in our policies or in the law that we are we are contemplating to [1:05:56] to formulate so thank you so much so far please stay on because the share will have and maybe uh other [1:06:01] colleagues will have questions for you a little later uh just to continue with uh colonel desiderio at [1:06:07] this point uh chinet nyo rin po ba yung viewing history no mga batang iyon yung 12 kids so far [1:06:16] na na rescue ninyo ah yung viewing history nila sa youtube ah at yung humi query history sila [1:06:25] sa chat gpt at pati sa gemini yes ma'am actually so overall uh how it works so [1:06:33] um we have this grooming activity we have the groomer and we have the grooming as a target so [1:06:40] most of the victim um they have uh untethered access to the internet so so five hours up they are uh [1:06:49] chronically online we call them and those who want uh connection or some are uh minimal parental [1:06:56] supervision so ito yung mga easy targets for the groomer and the modus of this uh groomer ito yung mga [1:07:05] vulnerable uh online targets mga victim then they group uh they groom victims to commit violence and [1:07:12] make rootless some uh extortion so pano na ngayon extortion uh kaya nga yung chat message with roblox [1:07:21] lumilipat sila ng other social media platform like telegram messenger so dun ako uh on discord then uh [1:07:30] uh and doon din yung ano to influence them on the violence then some uh radically well uh we call [1:07:38] this radicalization and recruitment so may kami tinatawag yun na uh any influence dito mga nag-groom [1:07:47] to account ng self-mutilation then self-harm uh we got swatting uh ito yung deliberate and malicious false [1:07:57] reporting of uh emergency situation like bomb threats murders active shooters so pag nag-room na [1:08:03] siya then uh some ano yung they also promote rape and uh kidnapping or murder so yung ating mga uh materials [1:08:15] na nakuha nga ma'am mga replica of uh yes uh ng mga air soap uh like uh las pinas no las pinas nakakuha [1:08:26] tayo ng ilang replicas of firearms doon mga ano ak-47 m4 so a replica then air soap then uh meron [1:08:36] di tinatawag ng mga core content so these are uh yung mga like itong website featuring gore content yung mga [1:08:45] uh what's uh www.watchpeopledie.tv so ito yung mga site na pinupuntahan ng itong mga nag-groom so [1:08:54] pinapakita rito yung mga bombing smarter uh dismemberment or decapitation mga graphic [1:09:02] war and uh uh conflict potates mga terrorist propaganda also mass casualty events uh political [1:09:10] assassination then they spread the online past no sa ating mga social messaging platforms so [1:09:19] ating mga dedicated core sites na binibigay sa kanila during uh sa message uh ano sa message [1:09:28] ng roblox yun lang pero napangarami po yung sinabi niyong chronically online parang sakit na rin eh [1:09:37] kailangan may prevention kahit kailangan may cure kahit yung uh yes kahit kahit yung binanggit [1:09:46] niyong radicalization so mukhang may indications ng deep indoctrination [1:09:51] colonel so para matulungan din yung ating mga magulang ano yung typical script o kaya o style o [1:09:58] entrada uh ng mga groomers na ito sa mga batang online sa roblox at ibang platforms nag observe [1:10:04] muna sila ma'am ah lalo ni mga ano nakikita nila yung mga users natin mga minors na nagbababad nga [1:10:13] online so ito yung mga ano target nila agad potential target and ah dun sa cases natin ma'am dito sa [1:10:19] na rescue natin ah yung account is ah ang ginamit account ng parent niya yung isa sa isa yun ang dalawa [1:10:27] ang tanong yata eh paano na inaakit yung bata meron bang binibigay di ba parang yung physical [1:10:34] predator di ba nagbibigay ng candy magbibigay ng laruan paano na inaakit yung bata online [1:10:40] ah actually ma'am yung tinitingnan nila yung ano ma'am initial conversation muna so asking mga basic [1:10:52] question na yung greetings then mga basic na ano ginagawa mo everything so dun pala sa observation [1:11:00] ah you are uh uh uh nag-i-stay yung ating victim na mga five to hour hours dun na yun ma'am nag-i-start [1:11:07] ang conversation so tinitingnan yung interest ng bata so i think uh siguro ma'am makakapag-share din ah [1:11:16] we have uh our officer na talagang ah involved dito sa investigation itong mga cases na to so i may [1:11:24] turn over you ma'am kay uh sa ating officer anong pangalan po nila sorry ah mama na lang muna uh our [1:11:35] officer from the cpi all right so nire-request nyo po na hindi muna sabihin yung identity nila [1:11:43] all right we have uh ongoing cases ma'am kasi ninahan din ngayon uh seven cases and uh [1:11:50] we will request the roblox uh management all right so ma'am uh speaking for colonel desiderio please [1:11:59] proceed good morning ladies and gentlemen um on behalf of the philippine national police at the cyber [1:12:07] crime group um um referencing with the past rescue operations that we had we observed that most of [1:12:16] the victims uh have uh untethered uh internet connection or yung screen time po nila is [1:12:25] napakahaba meaning yung parental guidance po nila when it comes to the gadget access is very limited i mean [1:12:32] hindi ho sila na nasa sanction agad ng parents natin that's why uh ito ho yung kinakapitalize ng mga [1:12:40] groomers nila uh groomers nila and then and also the the need of the of these children to belong [1:12:48] so since uh yung age po kasi nila from 12 years old to 15 years old ito po kasi yung time na nagsisik [1:12:58] sila ng belongingness and the sense of individuality so ito po yung uh kinakapitalize ng mga groomers [1:13:05] para ma-hook-in sila doon sa relationship and also yung they are the hate that they have in [1:13:12] themselves to their families to their uh bully sa school ito din po yung winem weaponize nila [1:13:19] to brew hate and anger so once um once na nabuo na ho nila or yung hate nila sa sarili nila is na [1:13:30] na-establish na nila i-empower ho yun ang groomer so making them uh telling them that i am here with [1:13:39] you uh you have a friend with me na na pwede mong pagsabihan 24 7 so uh ginagawa siyang substitute po [1:13:48] sa sa real friends sa kaho families so ang ginagawa ho ng groomer isasabihin niya sayo pwede mong sabihin [1:13:56] sa akin everything salamat po ma'am um very concerning talaga may malahalim na inalaman [1:14:05] din ito sa child psychology and paano ito sinasamantala ng mga groomers at iba pang malign actors [1:14:11] could we also ask uh deep web connect kung ano po yung insights nyo sa mga red flags na dapat [1:14:17] pagbantayan na mga magulang para sa mga anak na active sa roblox at ibang platforms mr tala tala [1:14:25] thank you madam chair so based on the monitoring of the deep web connect one of the patterns that [1:14:31] we observe is the existence of role-playing groups in facebook so one of the most concerning uh [1:14:38] findings involved is the use of uh role-playing group chats uh structured environments for grooming [1:14:45] so during our monitoring we have found different posts inviting for clans or groups so that they will [1:14:53] be able to communicate freely uh bukod po dun sa roblox na medyo restricted mas nakapag interact [1:15:00] po kasi sila kapag ginagamit nila yung meta or facebook so again mr tala tala at comsek kailangan [1:15:06] makadalo ang facebook meta sa susunod na pagdinig paulit-ulit silang napabanggit din please proceed [1:15:12] mr tala tala okay po so in one documented uh documented cases a participant uh manipulated a child using in-game [1:15:22] resources such as virtual currency such as virtual currency robux yun po yung ginagamit uh encourage or to [1:15:29] lure yung mga miners po na kumbaga mahikayat po nila or makuha nila yung loob ng ating mga kabataan po so [1:15:37] these incentives were used to influence behaviors without the child fully understanding the implications [1:15:44] demonstrating how digital assets can be used as a tool of manipulation additionally the presence of [1:15:50] children operating gaming related accounts that contain sexualized comments or cyber bullying [1:15:57] interactions without compound uh further compound the risk uh these environments normalize harmful [1:16:02] behavior and lower the threshold for exploitation so mass na lumalala po yung issue because even yung [1:16:09] mga miners they are capable of uh creating games na after a week naman pa yung nabapan but as of now [1:16:17] napakadali po talagang gumawa ng mga ganong games sa robux na pwede pong ma-exploit ng mga [1:16:22] perpetrators po natin so yun po yung one of our findings and if i mean before you continue po binanggit [1:16:29] nyo yung clans mga role-playing groups bakit particularly useful sila nagagamit ng mga groomers [1:16:35] rumors because through the role-playing groups po mas naka-interact yung mga bata and even adults [1:16:41] kumbaga na ma-feel na mga bata naka-edad nila yung mga kausap nila wala pong barriers kasi hindi po nila [1:16:48] gamit yung totoong identity nila so in role-playing groups sa meta they use fake names fake photos of [1:16:55] celebrities or other individuals so that makapag interact po sila using another person so dun po nangyayari yung [1:17:02] pinaka transaction so parang sinasabi ni ma'am kanina kasama ni colonel desiderio walang gap kasi [1:17:11] akala nila kaedad nila di sila galit sa isang mas matanda tulad ng magulang or whatever mas [1:17:17] nakakausap nila so nakukuha yung tiwala nila yes ma'am napakadali po mag access kasi wala pong [1:17:23] restrictions walang ibang question gagawa ka lang po ng account mo at isip ka lang po ng name mo and photos [1:17:30] pwede ka na po makipag interact sa mga minors ganun po siya kadali yung ease of interaction [1:17:35] talaga na on the other side ibig sabihin kulang sa regulation talaga yes lalo na kung kailangan [1:17:40] dahil may mga harms na nangyayari na rin yes please proceed sir tala tala and i-add ko na lang din po dun po sa [1:17:47] namention din po din po ni colonel desiderio so aside uh since na mention po yung about sa replica [1:17:54] since 2016 po meron po mga pages facebook pages na nagpo-promote din po or nag-release [1:18:00] ng mga manuals for creating weapons or mga diy weapons and until now may mga ganun pa din pong [1:18:07] pailan ilan na nag-iexist na kung saan na aalaw po yung mga minors or mga uh childrens na gumamit [1:18:15] or gumawa ng mga ganun weapons na akala nila ay laro laro lang or medyo cool kapag ginawa so [1:18:20] doon po sila na expose sa facebook isang dekada ng may manual kung paano gumawa ng firearms [1:18:26] yes po since that's okay did i say more dapat nandito sila next time yes po madam chair [1:18:34] yes senator yeah magtatanong lang ako sino talaga yung con yung um yung national [1:18:40] coordination center against online sexual abuse or exploitation of children uh may head [1:18:48] pa dito yes attorney good morning i'm the oic executive director po of the secretariat of the [1:18:57] ncc osa exercise o ic of the secretariat yes of the end the national coordinating center against osa [1:19:04] excisa m pos uh madam madam chair is a coordinating body for multi-agency [1:19:10] the ncc osa xisim is code is chaired by the department of justice through the secretary of [1:19:20] justice and co-chaired by the dswd through the secretary of the swd and then uh but you derive [1:19:26] from which office po from the doj po the secretariat is uh an office of the doj but [1:19:33] pocket uh uh oac ka lang pinakialaman i'm currently a prosecutor did po oh so it's uh an add-on job [1:19:44] yes po so it's not full-time nakapag-meet na ba itong groupon to yes but we are um [1:19:50] no not the secretariat the ncc po yung mek mek has it actually met the ncc osa xisaem po or yeah [1:19:58] the secretaries in full the doj the dswd not meeting na ba yan uh we activate na ba to [1:20:04] ito kasi parang never ko naririnig yes po kami ng problema natin sa child exploitation yes [1:20:09] po we regularly meet uh quarterly po seka sekretariat nag-me-meet the the body but the coordinating [1:20:17] body as a whole uh since when kayo nag-meet uh since the the ncc osa xis i'm established in 2022 [1:20:28] correct and since i think in since 2020 i only came in in 2024 so i i i believe since 2023 or even [1:20:38] prior to that they've been there pwede lang ano alamin na lang ninyo kung anong nangyari doon ah [1:20:43] kung ilang meeting anong pinag-usapan sa meeting ano yung brief minutes sa meeting kasi napakahalaga [1:20:53] ganitong grupong to eh apakadaming problemang ganito sa ating bansa naging tanyag na tayo naging [1:20:59] number one na tayo sa child exploitation number two na nothing to be proud of [1:21:05] we slid down to tumataginting na number two kaya ah yun nga gusto ko namin malaman kung gaano ka-active [1:21:14] to kasi kung hindi talaga workable at sobrang dami na trabaho ng doj at dswd baka kinakailangan [1:21:21] kami sa legislature mag isip ng panibagong batas o baguhin itong batas para maging effective [1:21:28] talaga lalo na sa mga it issues na nangangapata yung lahat sa dicp sa ticc pati yung pnp pakibigay lang [1:21:37] ng records yes yes but yes but we would like to state that it has been actively um working po against [1:21:44] ozak and sisam and uh we just in fact we just launched our the first ever national strategic [1:21:49] plan last year which was um uh drafted by doing nationwide consultation with a lot of stakeholders [1:21:59] and we are in the process of um revising the current law on ra 11930 so there's a current [1:22:07] pending bill before the senate and before congress case we're very willing to help so if you could just [1:22:13] update us on the activities of your agency ah ang pakiwari ko sabog sabog kasi yung efforts [1:22:20] natin yung NBI kasama sa international task force nabanggit na yung ATC ng pnp meron rin dict meron [1:22:29] rin kayo meron rin sinagelo sa cwc so parang nagdududa ako baka nalulusaw yung ating laban dahil nga kadami [1:22:39] dami dami dami nate natin nalabu labu na the Omega [1:23:09] OSAIC-CSAEM. [1:23:11] So in fact, in follow-up to one [1:23:13] of the points Senator Amy was making, [1:23:16] yung mga datos na regularly [1:23:17] nyo namang fina-furnish [1:23:19] sa committee, could I ask, [1:23:21] in the past couple of years, mula nung [1:23:23] naging OICED kayo, or even in the past [1:23:25] four years of the existence of [1:23:27] NCC OSAIC-CSAEM, [1:23:29] ilan na bang mga kasong ganito ng [1:23:31] grooming and other harmful actions [1:23:33] against children, ang namonitor [1:23:35] ng NCC OSAIC-CSAEM [1:23:37] sa Roblox at sa ibang pang mga [1:23:39] katulad na gaming platforms. [1:23:45] Madam Chair, with regard to [1:23:47] cases filed, [1:23:50] so right now, what we are only [1:23:52] gathering are OSAIC cases [1:23:54] filed, which are also trafficking in [1:23:56] persons cases. [1:23:58] So for those OSAIC with trafficking [1:24:00] in persons, NXSUS, [1:24:02] for last year, [1:24:05] there were around [1:24:05] more than 800 [1:24:09] cases filed, but [1:24:11] we still feel that this is [1:24:13] under-reported [1:24:15] cases, we feel that there are more [1:24:16] cases [1:24:17] than that are actually existing. [1:24:21] Now, those are cases filed, [1:24:22] not yet convictions. [1:24:24] There are several convictions, [1:24:26] Nedinpo, Senator. [1:24:27] I will just [1:24:28] try to [1:24:29] fetch our data [1:24:32] first to be able to give a more accurate, [1:24:34] yes, we will furnish you with our data [1:24:36] of how many convictions, [1:24:38] how many cases were filed [1:24:39] involving OSAIC. [1:24:41] But right now, we are working [1:24:43] also hard [1:24:45] to gather [1:24:47] more evidence, not just [1:24:49] more [1:24:49] cases, not just trafficking in persons [1:24:52] cases that are also OSAIC cases, [1:24:54] but also OSAIC cases that are not [1:24:56] trafficking in persons. [1:24:57] So this includes sexual extortion, [1:25:00] possession of CISAEM, [1:25:02] creation of CISAEM. [1:25:07] So [1:25:07] these are data that are not [1:25:09] yet being gathered, [1:25:11] but we want to gather it [1:25:13] to be able to have [1:25:14] a more [1:25:14] better picture [1:25:16] of how prevalent [1:25:17] really the issue is [1:25:18] in the country. [1:25:19] And do you think, [1:25:20] given itong konteksto [1:25:22] ng [1:25:22] ang daming [1:25:23] various offenses, [1:25:25] pero may under-reporting, [1:25:27] therefore may marami-rami, [1:25:28] pero malamang kulang pa [1:25:29] ng mga kaso [1:25:30] at different stages [1:25:31] of prosecution, [1:25:33] do you think sapat po [1:25:34] yung mga batas natin [1:25:35] sa anti-CYBER CRIME [1:25:36] law man yan, [1:25:38] anti-OSAIC CISAEM law, [1:25:39] para i-prevent, [1:25:41] i-punish yung mga harms? [1:25:43] Yeah, [1:25:44] it's not [1:25:45] enough. [1:25:46] That's why we [1:25:47] proposed a [1:25:47] revision of the law [1:25:48] before the Senate [1:25:49] and before [1:25:50] the Congress, [1:25:51] and we really appreciate [1:25:52] both the House [1:25:53] and the Senate [1:25:54] for really pushing [1:25:55] for this law, [1:25:56] which was also [1:25:57] identified as [1:25:58] one of the priority bills [1:25:59] by the administration. [1:26:01] So one of those gaps [1:26:03] that we identified [1:26:04] that we wish [1:26:05] the proposed bill [1:26:06] would be able to answer [1:26:07] is, of course, [1:26:08] more strengthening [1:26:10] the role [1:26:11] of our internet [1:26:12] and financial intermediaries, [1:26:14] not just in reporting, [1:26:15] but really on detecting [1:26:16] and preventing [1:26:17] OSAIC and CISAEM. [1:26:18] And one is [1:26:19] of course, [1:26:20] the safety by design, [1:26:22] also requiring [1:26:23] internet intermediaries [1:26:27] to have a legal [1:26:28] representative [1:26:29] in the Philippines. [1:26:30] And I think [1:26:31] one gap [1:26:31] that we still [1:26:32] really have [1:26:32] to address [1:26:37] address is currently [1:26:38] we don't have [1:26:40] regulatory authority [1:26:42] over online intermediaries [1:26:45] that are based [1:26:45] outside the Philippines. [1:26:48] So that's why, [1:26:48] as mentioned by [1:26:49] Yusek Aboi, [1:26:50] our go-to remedy [1:26:52] is really [1:26:52] to immediately ban [1:26:53] because without [1:26:55] regulatory authority [1:26:57] over these [1:26:58] online intermediaries, [1:27:00] that's the only [1:27:00] action that we [1:27:02] can take against them. [1:27:04] Madam Chair, [1:27:05] suggestion? [1:27:06] Yes, Senator Ami, [1:27:06] just before. [1:27:07] So I was about to say [1:27:09] and that again [1:27:10] brings it home [1:27:11] very urgently [1:27:12] and I hope [1:27:12] and I know [1:27:13] that Roblox is hearing [1:27:15] the necessity [1:27:16] of having [1:27:16] in-country [1:27:17] representation [1:27:19] so that [1:27:20] the Philippine [1:27:21] regulatory agencies [1:27:22] not just feel [1:27:23] but know [1:27:24] that they have [1:27:25] somewhere to go [1:27:25] for immediate [1:27:26] response and action [1:27:28] given that gap [1:27:29] between being here [1:27:31] in the country [1:27:32] and then [1:27:32] companies like Roblox [1:27:34] being solely abroad. [1:27:36] Yes, Senator Ami? [1:27:37] Yes, I was going to say [1:27:39] in the meantime, [1:27:40] that there are [1:27:42] some problems [1:27:43] that are going [1:27:44] to foreign [1:27:45] managed corporations [1:27:48] and we don't have to [1:27:49] should we not start [1:27:52] at least the central database [1:27:53] so that all this [1:27:55] child exploitation [1:27:56] cases [1:27:57] are available [1:27:58] to all the agencies [1:27:59] concerned. [1:28:00] Habang ito nga, [1:28:02] parte-parte tayo [1:28:04] sa iba't-ibang kaso, [1:28:06] napakod na si [1:28:07] Attorney Flores [1:28:08] sa trafficking. [1:28:09] E alam naman natin [1:28:10] yung PNP, [1:28:12] maliban pa sa ATC [1:28:13] ang dami-daming [1:28:14] terrorism, [1:28:15] sedition, [1:28:15] etc. issues, [1:28:17] meron pa silang [1:28:18] child cybercrime. [1:28:20] Tapos tuloy-tuloy yan. [1:28:21] Hindi ba pwede [1:28:22] mag-central database? [1:28:23] Wala bang group chat? [1:28:25] Parang [1:28:25] nagkukulang [1:28:26] ang gobyerno [1:28:27] sa JCP. [1:28:27] Ako na mag-set-up [1:28:29] para may shared [1:28:30] information, [1:28:32] mag-central database [1:28:33] lang tayo [1:28:33] dun sa mga [1:28:34] complaints, [1:28:35] sa cases filed, [1:28:37] tapos mga [1:28:37] access rin [1:28:38] ng iba sa amin, [1:28:39] like the Senate [1:28:40] Committee on Women. [1:28:41] At least, [1:28:42] makikita natin [1:28:43] kung ano na [1:28:43] ang pangyayari. [1:28:45] In the meantime, [1:28:46] na wala pang batat [1:28:46] at hindi pa talaga [1:28:47] napopondohan [1:28:49] ad-interim OIC [1:28:52] at iba pang [1:28:53] the attorney, [1:28:54] hindi ba dapat [1:28:55] na mag-central database [1:28:57] na muna tayo? [1:28:58] Yusek, [1:28:58] Sara, [1:28:59] hindi po ba [1:28:59] meron ng [1:29:00] registry of [1:29:00] child offenders? [1:29:02] Ano na po bang [1:29:03] status niyan? [1:29:05] And I'm almost sure [1:29:05] hindi pa kasama [1:29:06] itong mga [1:29:07] offenses against [1:29:08] children [1:29:08] sa mga gaming [1:29:09] platforms, [1:29:10] but is it a possibility [1:29:11] na isama din yun [1:29:12] sa registry? [1:29:14] Yes, [1:29:14] Your Honor, [1:29:14] we have the [1:29:15] central registry, [1:29:16] but certainly [1:29:17] we would like [1:29:18] to include [1:29:18] and we will [1:29:19] initiate [1:29:20] the coordination [1:29:21] with them [1:29:22] on how we [1:29:23] will set it up, [1:29:24] Your Honor. [1:29:25] So, [1:29:25] ibig sabihin, [1:29:26] may database, [1:29:27] pero, [1:29:27] siyempre, [1:29:28] kailangan laging [1:29:28] nag-evolve yan [1:29:29] at nadadagdagan [1:29:30] yung mga datos [1:29:31] related to [1:29:32] new offenses [1:29:33] that we learn [1:29:34] of against children. [1:29:35] Yes, [1:29:35] Madam Chair. [1:29:36] Puro offender [1:29:37] lang yan. [1:29:38] Ibig sabihin, [1:29:38] convicted felons na yan. [1:29:40] At, [1:29:41] ang nakikita ko [1:29:42] sa batas, [1:29:43] kasi sa Osayik Batas, [1:29:45] naalala ko na yung [1:29:45] central database [1:29:47] requirement eh, [1:29:48] nasa section 30, [1:29:49] na talagang magshisharing, [1:29:51] pero sa pakikinip sa inyo, [1:29:54] mukhang wala. [1:29:55] So, [1:29:55] napakadali naman [1:29:56] gumawa ng [1:29:56] central database, [1:29:58] kahit GC lang [1:29:58] nagsimulan yan, [1:30:00] kahit chismisan lang [1:30:01] sa umpisa, [1:30:02] kahit hindi pa [1:30:02] magbigay ng [1:30:03] pangalan, [1:30:04] nagagawa ng bata, [1:30:05] di natin nagawa, [1:30:07] gawin na natin [1:30:08] para at least [1:30:09] claro, [1:30:09] what are the number [1:30:10] of cases [1:30:10] being investigated. [1:30:12] Andito sa batas eh, [1:30:12] profile and information [1:30:14] of each case, [1:30:15] kung ano yung na-file, [1:30:17] tapos number of victims, [1:30:18] tapos disaggregated data [1:30:20] o taek, [1:30:21] and victims, [1:30:22] and so on. [1:30:24] Tapos, [1:30:24] eto yung tinatanong [1:30:25] ng chairwoman ko, [1:30:26] si gender, [1:30:27] age, [1:30:27] nationality, [1:30:28] income group, [1:30:29] et cetera. [1:30:29] So kung maaari, [1:30:31] buhay na natin yan, [1:30:32] nasa batas naman yan. [1:30:34] If I may po, [1:30:36] madam chair, [1:30:37] senator Aymi. [1:30:38] So right now, [1:30:38] we are currently working [1:30:40] on the centralized database. [1:30:43] We have now the [1:30:44] Protect Portal [1:30:45] by the IACAT. [1:30:46] Initially, [1:30:47] the Protect Portal database [1:30:48] together with, [1:30:50] we're working closely [1:30:51] with PNB and NBI. [1:30:53] It only refers to [1:30:54] trafficking in persons cases, [1:30:56] but we already, [1:30:57] we are in the process [1:30:58] of extending it [1:30:59] to include all other [1:31:00] types of OSAIC cases. [1:31:02] And we're hoping [1:31:04] to roll it out [1:31:05] together with IACAT [1:31:06] within the year [1:31:07] so that all OSAIC cases [1:31:09] that are being investigated [1:31:11] and filed in court [1:31:12] could also be, [1:31:13] we could also gather [1:31:14] those data. [1:31:15] If I may, [1:31:16] huwag lang yung OSAIC cases. [1:31:18] Kasi ang dami-dami rin [1:31:19] kaso pa na sa PNC. [1:31:21] Ang dami-dami rin [1:31:22] sa CICC. [1:31:24] So I think it's important [1:31:26] that we put it all together. [1:31:28] For all you know, [1:31:29] you're probably, [1:31:30] be able to align the cases. [1:31:33] Baka yung iba dyan [1:31:33] para-pareho mga perpetrator. [1:31:35] Yung palas, [1:31:36] hindi kato na yan. [1:31:37] Tapos kung nasa abroad, [1:31:38] makikita mo, [1:31:39] sa tanga-tanga. [1:31:41] Di pa ganyan talaga [1:31:41] yung mga cybercrime eh. [1:31:43] So importante na [1:31:44] hindi lang DOJ, [1:31:46] kundi yung iba, [1:31:47] idamay na natin silang lahat. [1:31:49] Yes po. [1:31:49] And kaya doon po din [1:31:51] sa proposed bill po [1:31:52] ng, although admittedly [1:31:53] it's just on OSAIC [1:31:54] and si Saen, [1:31:56] we really, [1:31:57] yes po, [1:31:57] we are really pushing [1:31:58] for information sharing po. [1:32:00] Medyo, [1:32:01] may sila po tayo [1:32:02] sa mga information sharing, [1:32:03] so not just [1:32:04] among government agencies, [1:32:06] but even [1:32:06] including private entities po [1:32:09] na makapag-information sharing po tayo [1:32:12] for better detection. [1:32:13] Salamat, OIC Executive Director. [1:32:17] Since we're talking about [1:32:18] the private entities [1:32:19] at napanggit na rin kanina [1:32:21] yung ating mga [1:32:21] smart and globe, [1:32:24] kung pwedeng matanong, [1:32:26] well, [1:32:26] you've really been our [1:32:27] invaluable partners [1:32:28] in the last few years [1:32:29] in our battle against [1:32:30] OSAIC and si Saen, [1:32:32] kahit dito [1:32:32] sa Senate Committee on Women, [1:32:34] but it seems [1:32:35] we're seeing [1:32:35] a distinctly [1:32:36] new animal here. [1:32:38] Children being victimized [1:32:39] by violent extremists, [1:32:41] tulad ng sinabi [1:32:42] ni Colonel Desiderio kanina. [1:32:44] Mahirap dito, [1:32:45] walang madaling [1:32:46] smoking gun [1:32:47] na ma-identify. [1:32:49] Kahit nila, [1:32:49] siguro at the outset, [1:32:51] there are no [1:32:51] naked photos [1:32:52] that systems [1:32:53] can immediately [1:32:54] detect. [1:32:55] So, paano makakatulong [1:32:57] ang private sector [1:32:58] sa pagtugon [1:33:01] sa hamon na ito? [1:33:02] Given na, [1:33:03] nadinig din natin [1:33:04] na hindi lang pala [1:33:05] siya isolated [1:33:06] sa Laguna, [1:33:08] pero kumakalat na [1:33:09] sa buong bansa. [1:33:11] So, could we hear [1:33:11] first from Globe? [1:33:13] Mr. Santos. [1:33:16] Good morning, Madam Chair. [1:33:19] First and foremost, [1:33:20] I think, [1:33:21] from a telco perspective, [1:33:23] it's quite challenging [1:33:24] and we recognize [1:33:25] the challenge [1:33:26] because we're infra [1:33:27] and we don't actually [1:33:29] have purview [1:33:30] in terms of [1:33:31] looking into [1:33:32] what's happening [1:33:32] in Roblox [1:33:33] from a legal perspective. [1:33:36] But having said that, [1:33:37] we are actually [1:33:38] doing our own [1:33:39] initiatives [1:33:40] specifically, [1:33:42] for example, [1:33:42] for the start of the year, [1:33:44] we partnered with [1:33:44] NCC, [1:33:45] OSA, [1:33:45] XSIM, [1:33:47] even DOJ, [1:33:50] CWC, [1:33:51] and others [1:33:52] for Saver Internative. [1:33:55] We celebrated [1:33:56] that last February [1:33:57] and it was a strong [1:33:58] effort on our part. [1:34:00] We reached out [1:34:01] to 16 schools [1:34:03] to teach [1:34:05] over 3,000 kids, [1:34:07] but that's only [1:34:08] for this year. [1:34:11] Last year, [1:34:11] we were able [1:34:12] to do more, [1:34:14] specifically [1:34:15] around 16,000 [1:34:17] students educated [1:34:19] around OSA, [1:34:20] XSIM, [1:34:20] and other threats [1:34:21] online, [1:34:22] including [1:34:23] teaching them [1:34:24] about [1:34:24] keeping safe [1:34:28] online, [1:34:28] specifically [1:34:29] trying to [1:34:29] understand [1:34:30] what are [1:34:31] the tells [1:34:33] or signals [1:34:34] of grooming [1:34:36] of other threats, [1:34:39] even talking [1:34:40] about the issues [1:34:41] on overexposure [1:34:42] to violent [1:34:43] games, [1:34:44] including [1:34:45] pornography, [1:34:46] and how it [1:34:47] changes [1:34:47] the mind [1:34:51] in terms of [1:34:51] non-exposure. [1:34:53] So we are [1:34:53] doing that [1:34:54] and we've [1:34:55] done that [1:34:55] for the past [1:34:55] 10 years. [1:34:56] Thank you, [1:35:00] Mr. Santos. [1:35:01] I remember [1:35:01] noong hearings [1:35:03] din sa OSA, [1:35:04] XSIM, [1:35:04] ganun yung original [1:35:05] na concern [1:35:06] din ng globe [1:35:07] pati ng smart [1:35:08] na infra kami. [1:35:09] So what can we [1:35:10] really do? [1:35:10] Pero lumabas [1:35:11] sa legislative [1:35:12] process na yun, [1:35:13] especially in [1:35:14] coordination with [1:35:15] the government [1:35:15] agencies, [1:35:17] marami kayong [1:35:17] magagawa, [1:35:18] even by those [1:35:19] education efforts, [1:35:22] at saka kapag [1:35:23] may signal na [1:35:24] from the [1:35:24] government regulators, [1:35:26] request for [1:35:27] assistance from [1:35:28] the internet [1:35:29] service providers, [1:35:30] nakaka-step up [1:35:30] po kayo. [1:35:31] So thank you [1:35:31] for attending [1:35:32] this hearing [1:35:32] and also [1:35:33] being open [1:35:33] and I hope [1:35:34] willing to [1:35:35] extend the [1:35:36] same kind [1:35:36] of partnership [1:35:37] laban dito [1:35:38] sa pag-biktimay [1:35:39] sa mga bata [1:35:39] sa gaming [1:35:40] platforms. [1:35:41] Could we [1:35:41] hear from [1:35:42] smart? [1:35:42] Paano nyo [1:35:43] nakikita [1:35:43] mga katulong [1:35:44] ng private [1:35:44] sector sa [1:35:45] particular [1:35:45] na usapin nito? [1:35:46] First of all, [1:35:47] good morning, [1:35:48] Madam Chair. [1:35:49] Thank you [1:35:49] for giving [1:35:50] smart and [1:35:51] PLTT the [1:35:52] opportunity to [1:35:53] appear before [1:35:54] this committee. [1:35:56] As you [1:35:56] mentioned, [1:35:57] even during [1:35:58] the pandemic [1:35:58] when we [1:35:59] were crafting [1:35:59] the OSAIC [1:36:00] law, [1:36:00] we were [1:36:00] very much [1:36:02] active and [1:36:03] we were [1:36:03] strongly in [1:36:04] support of [1:36:05] passing the [1:36:05] OSAIC [1:36:06] law and [1:36:06] after its [1:36:07] passage, [1:36:09] we have been [1:36:09] strongly [1:36:09] coordinating [1:36:10] with all [1:36:11] the government [1:36:11] agencies [1:36:12] in strictly [1:36:13] enforcing [1:36:13] implementing [1:36:15] this law. [1:36:16] In fact, [1:36:16] even now, [1:36:18] we've been [1:36:18] coordinating [1:36:19] with all [1:36:20] the different [1:36:20] agencies, [1:36:21] especially [1:36:22] with the [1:36:22] DICT, [1:36:23] NPC, [1:36:23] CICC, [1:36:24] in doing [1:36:26] a lot [1:36:26] of efforts [1:36:28] also on [1:36:30] the side [1:36:31] in terms [1:36:32] of being [1:36:33] monitoring [1:36:34] and tracking [1:36:35] of course [1:36:35] within legal [1:36:36] bounds, [1:36:37] not only [1:36:38] OSAIC, [1:36:38] but other [1:36:40] online and [1:36:42] other cyber [1:36:42] scams [1:36:43] proliferating [1:36:44] online. [1:36:46] So with [1:36:46] this, [1:36:47] we again [1:36:48] reaffirm our [1:36:48] commitment [1:36:49] to be [1:36:50] strictly [1:36:51] monitoring [1:36:51] and enforcing [1:36:52] within the [1:36:53] bounds of [1:36:53] the OSAIC [1:36:54] law and [1:36:54] other laws [1:36:55] of the [1:36:55] Republic of [1:36:56] the Philippines [1:36:57] to enforce [1:36:58] child protection, [1:37:00] anti-terrorism, [1:37:01] and all the [1:37:02] other illegal [1:37:03] online activities [1:37:04] that proliferates, [1:37:06] Your Honor. [1:37:07] Thank you. [1:37:07] Thank you to [1:37:09] Attorney Ibai [1:37:09] also for [1:37:11] mentioning, [1:37:11] in addition to [1:37:12] countering [1:37:13] CISAIC, [1:37:14] OSAEM, [1:37:14] partnerships [1:37:15] with government [1:37:17] including the [1:37:18] legislature [1:37:18] against cyber [1:37:19] scams. [1:37:20] So yung [1:37:21] extra effort [1:37:23] na pwedeng gawin [1:37:23] ng private [1:37:24] sector to [1:37:24] address [1:37:25] these concerns [1:37:26] within the [1:37:27] legal bounds [1:37:27] as you say, [1:37:28] at saka [1:37:28] given yung [1:37:29] technical [1:37:30] capacities, [1:37:31] not just [1:37:31] limitations, [1:37:32] but capacities [1:37:33] po ninyo. [1:37:34] Okay, [1:37:34] salamat po [1:37:35] para doon. [1:37:36] If I could [1:37:36] have a follow-up [1:37:37] question to [1:37:38] Deep Web [1:37:40] Connect, [1:37:41] kaugnay pa rin [1:37:42] yung isa rin [1:37:42] binanggit [1:37:43] ni na [1:37:43] Colonel [1:37:44] Desiderio, [1:37:46] ano po yung [1:37:47] concerns ninyo [1:37:48] sa mga [1:37:48] militarized [1:37:50] or extremist [1:37:51] themed [1:37:52] na role-playing [1:37:53] groups at [1:37:54] paano niya [1:37:55] nanonormalize [1:37:56] yung mga [1:37:56] harmful [1:37:56] behaviors [1:37:57] sa mga [1:37:58] bata [1:37:58] lalo na? [1:38:00] Okay, [1:38:01] Madam Chair, [1:38:02] we have [1:38:03] identified [1:38:03] role-playing [1:38:04] groups that [1:38:05] mimic [1:38:05] militarized [1:38:06] structures, [1:38:07] specifically [1:38:08] some groups [1:38:09] within their [1:38:10] role-blocks [1:38:10] or some [1:38:11] games within [1:38:12] their role-blocks. [1:38:13] So may mga [1:38:14] na-identify [1:38:14] po kami [1:38:15] mga [1:38:15] games like [1:38:16] the [1:38:16] counter-blocks [1:38:17] or [1:38:18] Black Hawk [1:38:19] Rescue Mission [1:38:19] 5 na [1:38:20] nagsiserve [1:38:22] as simulation [1:38:22] po ng [1:38:23] AFP [1:38:23] and military [1:38:24] and meron [1:38:25] din pong [1:38:25] simulation [1:38:26] ng [1:38:27] fight [1:38:28] between [1:38:28] the [1:38:29] authorities [1:38:29] and the [1:38:30] rebel [1:38:30] groups. [1:38:30] So sila po [1:38:31] yung [1:38:32] nagsisilving [1:38:33] beating [1:38:34] ground [1:38:34] po [1:38:34] ng mga [1:38:35] bata [1:38:35] or [1:38:35] naging [1:38:36] influence [1:38:36] dun sa [1:38:37] mga [1:38:37] bata [1:38:37] na [1:38:38] ma-expose [1:38:38] sila [1:38:39] sa mga [1:38:39] ganong [1:38:39] activities [1:38:40] even [1:38:41] though [1:38:41] virtually [1:38:42] pero [1:38:42] nagkaroon [1:38:43] po sila [1:38:43] ng [1:38:44] idea [1:38:45] or [1:38:46] nagkaroon [1:38:46] po sila [1:38:46] ng [1:38:47] exposure [1:38:47] sa [1:38:48] pamaginan [1:38:48] po [1:38:48] ng [1:38:48] mga [1:38:49] ganong [1:38:49] games. [1:38:49] Salamat [1:38:52] Mr. [1:38:53] Talatala. [1:38:54] Could we [1:38:54] go back [1:38:55] now to [1:38:56] Roblox [1:38:57] Ms. [1:38:58] Galako [1:38:58] and [1:38:58] colleagues. [1:39:00] What are [1:39:01] the current [1:39:01] chat [1:39:02] monitoring [1:39:03] protocols [1:39:04] of Roblox [1:39:05] and how [1:39:06] can [1:39:06] dangerous [1:39:07] conversations [1:39:07] happen [1:39:08] on the [1:39:08] platform? [1:39:09] You [1:39:09] announced [1:39:10] earlier [1:39:10] that [1:39:10] you [1:39:11] will [1:39:11] be [1:39:11] limiting [1:39:12] or [1:39:12] even [1:39:13] blocking [1:39:14] the [1:39:14] chats [1:39:14] especially [1:39:14] for [1:39:15] the [1:39:15] youngest [1:39:15] group [1:39:16] of [1:39:16] users [1:39:16] or [1:39:17] players [1:39:17] but [1:39:18] what [1:39:19] are [1:39:19] the [1:39:19] current [1:39:20] protocols [1:39:20] and [1:39:20] how [1:39:21] are [1:39:21] the [1:39:21] new [1:39:21] ones [1:39:21] you're [1:39:21] announcing [1:39:22] going [1:39:23] to be [1:39:24] substantially [1:39:24] different [1:39:25] from [1:39:25] those. [1:39:28] Yes. [1:39:28] Senator, [1:39:29] as you [1:39:29] mentioned, [1:39:31] we [1:39:31] filter [1:39:32] all [1:39:32] chat [1:39:33] so [1:39:33] that [1:39:34] not [1:39:35] only [1:39:35] for [1:39:35] bad [1:39:36] words [1:39:36] and [1:39:36] words [1:39:38] that [1:39:38] might [1:39:38] be [1:39:38] offensive [1:39:39] but [1:39:39] if [1:39:40] anyone [1:39:40] is [1:39:40] trying [1:39:41] to [1:39:41] share [1:39:41] PII [1:39:42] personally [1:39:43] identifiable [1:39:44] information [1:39:44] or trying [1:39:45] to [1:39:45] coordinate [1:39:46] dangerous [1:39:46] activity [1:39:47] it's [1:39:47] extremely [1:39:48] difficult [1:39:49] to do [1:39:49] that [1:39:50] on [1:39:50] Roblox. [1:39:51] We [1:39:51] see [1:39:52] a [1:39:52] greater [1:39:52] risk [1:39:53] and [1:39:53] something [1:39:53] that [1:39:53] we [1:39:54] love [1:39:54] to [1:39:54] work [1:39:54] with [1:39:54] this [1:39:55] government [1:39:55] and [1:39:56] other [1:39:56] members [1:39:57] of [1:39:57] industry [1:39:57] on [1:39:57] a [1:39:58] greater [1:39:58] risk [1:39:59] when [1:39:59] people [1:39:59] can [1:40:00] leave [1:40:01] Roblox [1:40:01] and [1:40:01] move [1:40:02] to [1:40:02] other [1:40:02] platforms [1:40:03] for [1:40:03] coordination. [1:40:04] And so [1:40:04] this [1:40:05] platform [1:40:05] hopping [1:40:06] is [1:40:06] something [1:40:06] that [1:40:07] we [1:40:07] are [1:40:07] aware [1:40:08] of [1:40:08] and [1:40:08] that [1:40:08] we [1:40:09] take [1:40:09] really [1:40:09] seriously. [1:40:10] But [1:40:10] it is [1:40:11] actually [1:40:11] very [1:40:11] difficult [1:40:12] to [1:40:12] coordinate [1:40:12] on [1:40:13] Roblox. [1:40:15] It's [1:40:15] not [1:40:15] impossible [1:40:16] but it's [1:40:16] much [1:40:16] more [1:40:17] difficult [1:40:17] than [1:40:17] in [1:40:17] other [1:40:18] messaging [1:40:18] apps. [1:40:18] I [1:40:19] would [1:40:19] also [1:40:19] just [1:40:20] note [1:40:20] that [1:40:20] Roblox [1:40:21] is [1:40:21] not [1:40:21] an [1:40:21] encrypted [1:40:22] platform. [1:40:23] We [1:40:23] are [1:40:23] a [1:40:23] gaming [1:40:24] platform [1:40:24] and [1:40:24] we [1:40:25] are [1:40:25] for [1:40:25] play [1:40:26] and [1:40:27] in [1:40:27] that [1:40:28] kind [1:40:28] of [1:40:28] environment [1:40:28] we [1:40:29] don't [1:40:29] think [1:40:29] it's [1:40:29] appropriate [1:40:30] to [1:40:30] have [1:40:30] encrypted [1:40:31] communication [1:40:32] so [1:40:32] that [1:40:33] enables [1:40:34] us [1:40:34] to [1:40:35] better [1:40:35] work [1:40:37] with [1:40:37] law [1:40:37] enforcement [1:40:37] in [1:40:38] a [1:40:39] privacy [1:40:39] protective [1:40:39] way [1:40:40] to [1:40:40] ensure [1:40:40] that [1:40:40] users [1:40:41] stay [1:40:41] safe. [1:40:41] Thank [1:40:43] you [1:40:43] but [1:40:43] you [1:40:43] are [1:40:44] surely [1:40:44] aware [1:40:45] that [1:40:45] though [1:40:46] you [1:40:46] are [1:40:46] not [1:40:46] an [1:40:46] encrypted [1:40:47] platform [1:40:48] players [1:40:49] especially [1:40:50] those [1:40:50] who are [1:40:50] only [1:40:51] pretending [1:40:51] to be [1:40:52] who [1:40:52] they're [1:40:52] pretending [1:40:53] to be [1:40:53] in [1:40:53] the [1:40:54] game [1:40:55] they [1:40:57] code [1:40:57] their [1:40:58] language [1:40:58] especially [1:40:59] towards [1:41:00] prospective [1:41:01] victims [1:41:02] or their [1:41:03] targets [1:41:03] whom [1:41:03] they [1:41:04] will [1:41:04] later [1:41:04] on [1:41:04] migrate [1:41:05] to [1:41:06] encrypted [1:41:07] platforms [1:41:07] but [1:41:08] while [1:41:08] still [1:41:09] playing [1:41:09] on [1:41:10] Roblox [1:41:11] they [1:41:11] use [1:41:12] code [1:41:12] words [1:41:13] especially [1:41:13] to [1:41:14] replace [1:41:14] words [1:41:15] that [1:41:15] Roblox [1:41:16] and [1:41:16] other [1:41:16] platforms [1:41:17] do [1:41:17] not [1:41:17] allow [1:41:18] especially [1:41:19] you [1:41:19] mentioned [1:41:20] bad [1:41:20] words [1:41:21] earlier [1:41:21] not [1:41:21] just [1:41:21] curse [1:41:22] words [1:41:22] but [1:41:22] words [1:41:23] about [1:41:24] violent [1:41:24] actions [1:41:25] they [1:41:25] use [1:41:26] codes [1:41:26] and [1:41:27] they're [1:41:27] able [1:41:27] to [1:41:27] use [1:41:28] them [1:41:28] in [1:41:28] their [1:41:28] play [1:41:29] in [1:41:29] their [1:41:29] game [1:41:30] openly [1:41:31] on [1:41:31] Roblox [1:41:32] even [1:41:32] before [1:41:33] migrating [1:41:34] their [1:41:34] intended [1:41:35] victims [1:41:35] to [1:41:35] the [1:41:35] encrypted [1:41:36] platforms [1:41:36] is [1:41:37] Roblox [1:41:38] trying [1:41:40] to [1:41:40] move [1:41:40] on [1:41:41] that [1:41:41] especially [1:41:42] under [1:41:43] your [1:41:43] newly [1:41:43] announced [1:41:44] and [1:41:44] to [1:41:44] be [1:41:44] implemented [1:41:45] protocols [1:41:47] yes [1:41:49] so [1:41:49] we [1:41:49] are [1:41:49] aware [1:41:50] of [1:41:50] what [1:41:51] you're [1:41:51] referring [1:41:51] to [1:41:51] which [1:41:52] is [1:41:52] cryptographic [1:41:53] use [1:41:53] of [1:41:54] terms [1:41:55] that [1:41:56] is [1:41:57] a [1:41:57] constant [1:41:58] moving [1:41:59] target [1:41:59] and I [1:42:00] would [1:42:00] address [1:42:01] that [1:42:01] in [1:42:01] two [1:42:01] ways [1:42:02] one [1:42:02] is [1:42:02] to [1:42:03] say [1:42:03] that [1:42:03] this [1:42:04] is [1:42:05] one [1:42:05] of [1:42:05] the [1:42:05] ways [1:42:05] that [1:42:05] we [1:42:06] use [1:42:06] AI [1:42:07] is [1:42:09] to [1:42:09] try [1:42:09] and [1:42:09] track [1:42:10] these [1:42:10] behaviors [1:42:11] and [1:42:11] the use [1:42:12] of [1:42:12] these [1:42:12] terms [1:42:12] so [1:42:13] that [1:42:13] we [1:42:13] can [1:42:13] be [1:42:15] aware [1:42:15] of [1:42:15] these [1:42:15] trends [1:42:16] faster [1:42:17] I [1:42:18] would [1:42:18] also [1:42:18] say [1:42:19] that [1:42:19] we [1:42:20] have [1:42:20] great [1:42:20] luck [1:42:20] partnering [1:42:21] with [1:42:21] governments [1:42:22] in [1:42:23] local [1:42:23] languages [1:42:24] so [1:42:24] that [1:42:24] we [1:42:25] understand [1:42:25] what [1:42:26] are [1:42:26] the [1:42:26] terms [1:42:27] or [1:42:28] trends [1:42:29] that [1:42:29] we [1:42:29] need [1:42:29] to [1:42:30] be [1:42:30] aware [1:42:30] of [1:42:30] in [1:42:30] local [1:42:31] languages [1:42:31] not [1:42:32] just [1:42:32] in [1:42:32] for [1:42:33] example [1:42:33] English [1:42:34] but [1:42:35] in [1:42:35] Tagalog [1:42:36] or [1:42:36] Filipino [1:42:36] or [1:42:36] other [1:42:37] languages [1:42:38] and [1:42:38] that [1:42:38] is [1:42:39] something [1:42:39] that [1:42:39] we [1:42:39] would [1:42:39] be [1:42:39] happy [1:42:40] to [1:42:40] work [1:42:40] with [1:42:41] the [1:42:42] government [1:42:42] in [1:42:43] the [1:42:43] Philippines [1:42:43] on [1:42:43] as [1:42:44] well [1:42:44] as [1:42:44] other [1:42:44] members [1:42:44] of [1:42:45] civil [1:42:45] society [1:42:46] and [1:42:46] advocacy [1:42:46] groups [1:42:47] that [1:42:47] is [1:42:47] something [1:42:48] we [1:42:48] know [1:42:48] we [1:42:48] are [1:42:49] not [1:42:49] the [1:42:49] experts [1:42:49] in [1:42:50] that [1:42:50] area [1:42:50] but [1:42:50] we [1:42:50] always [1:42:51] partner [1:42:51] with [1:42:52] people [1:42:53] to [1:42:53] try [1:42:54] and [1:42:54] understand [1:42:56] what [1:42:57] that [1:42:57] terminology [1:42:57] is [1:42:58] and [1:42:59] I'm [1:42:59] afraid [1:42:59] it [1:42:59] will [1:43:00] be [1:43:00] a [1:43:00] lifelong [1:43:01] task [1:43:01] for [1:43:02] platforms [1:43:03] like [1:43:03] Roblox [1:43:03] because [1:43:04] as [1:43:04] for [1:43:04] CSA [1:43:05] XCSA [1:43:05] M [1:43:06] where [1:43:06] they're [1:43:06] always [1:43:06] evolving [1:43:07] new [1:43:08] words [1:43:08] to [1:43:08] mask [1:43:09] the [1:43:10] sexual [1:43:10] actions [1:43:11] that [1:43:11] they're [1:43:11] actually [1:43:11] referring [1:43:12] to [1:43:12] with [1:43:12] children [1:43:13] same [1:43:13] in [1:43:14] Roblox [1:43:14] are [1:43:15] always [1:43:15] evolving [1:43:17] their [1:43:17] code [1:43:18] especially [1:43:19] for [1:43:19] the [1:43:19] violent [1:43:20] and [1:43:20] sexual [1:43:21] matters [1:43:22] as [1:43:23] well [1:43:23] let's [1:43:24] take a [1:43:24] half [1:43:24] step [1:43:24] back [1:43:25] from [1:43:25] what [1:43:25] we [1:43:25] were [1:43:25] already [1:43:26] discussing [1:43:26] earlier [1:43:26] at [1:43:26] least [1:43:27] to [1:43:27] give [1:43:29] the [1:43:30] baseline [1:43:30] of [1:43:31] how [1:43:31] Roblox [1:43:32] is [1:43:32] as [1:43:32] of [1:43:32] today [1:43:33] before [1:43:33] your [1:43:33] new [1:43:34] protocols [1:43:34] can [1:43:35] you [1:43:35] describe [1:43:35] to [1:43:35] the [1:43:36] committee [1:43:36] the [1:43:36] content [1:43:37] moderation [1:43:38] processes [1:43:39] and [1:43:39] other [1:43:40] proactive [1:43:40] systems [1:43:41] that [1:43:41] are [1:43:41] in [1:43:41] place [1:43:42] to [1:43:42] detect [1:43:43] grooming [1:43:43] behavior [1:43:43] in [1:43:44] real [1:43:44] time [1:43:44] how [1:43:45] effective [1:43:46] are [1:43:46] they [1:43:46] so [1:43:46] as [1:43:47] you [1:43:47] admitted [1:43:47] earlier [1:43:47] not [1:43:48] completely [1:43:49] and [1:43:50] how [1:43:50] often [1:43:50] are [1:43:50] they [1:43:50] upgraded [1:43:51] so [1:43:51] you're [1:43:51] going [1:43:52] to [1:43:52] upgrade [1:43:52] them [1:43:52] as [1:43:53] of [1:43:53] this [1:43:54] week [1:43:54] but [1:43:54] what [1:43:55] do [1:43:55] they [1:43:55] look [1:43:55] like [1:43:55] as [1:43:56] of [1:44:00] a [1:44:01] combination [1:44:02] of [1:44:03] both [1:44:03] human [1:44:04] moderation [1:44:04] as [1:44:05] well [1:44:05] as [1:44:05] automated [1:44:06] systems [1:44:07] to [1:44:08] prevent [1:44:08] detect [1:44:10] and [1:44:10] address [1:44:11] any [1:44:12] behaviors [1:44:12] that may [1:44:13] violate [1:44:13] our [1:44:13] community [1:44:14] guidelines [1:44:15] but [1:44:15] specifically [1:44:16] those [1:44:17] behaviors [1:44:17] that present [1:44:18] a material [1:44:19] safety [1:44:19] risk [1:44:20] to [1:44:21] players [1:44:22] so [1:44:23] things like [1:44:23] grooming [1:44:24] or [1:44:24] terrorism [1:44:25] and [1:44:25] violent [1:44:25] extremism [1:44:26] we [1:44:28] every [1:44:29] single [1:44:29] what we [1:44:29] call [1:44:30] asset [1:44:30] every [1:44:31] single [1:44:31] image [1:44:32] that you [1:44:32] see [1:44:33] on [1:44:33] roadblocks [1:44:34] is [1:44:34] screened [1:44:35] before [1:44:36] it's [1:44:36] uploaded [1:44:36] usually [1:44:38] by an [1:44:38] automated [1:44:39] system [1:44:39] so [1:44:39] that [1:44:40] we [1:44:40] know [1:44:41] if [1:44:41] there [1:44:41] is [1:44:42] for [1:44:42] example [1:44:42] a [1:44:43] hate [1:44:43] symbol [1:44:43] or [1:44:44] something [1:44:44] that [1:44:45] is [1:44:45] synonymous [1:44:46] with [1:44:47] grooming [1:44:48] or [1:44:49] terrorism [1:44:49] and [1:44:50] violent [1:44:50] extremism [1:44:51] we can [1:44:52] try to [1:44:52] catch [1:44:52] that [1:44:53] at [1:44:53] the [1:44:53] point [1:44:53] that [1:44:53] it [1:44:54] is [1:44:55] uploaded [1:44:55] once [1:44:56] everything [1:44:57] is [1:44:58] in [1:44:59] the [1:44:59] environment [1:45:00] and [1:45:00] on [1:45:00] roadblocks [1:45:01] we [1:45:01] do [1:45:02] rely [1:45:02] on [1:45:03] real [1:45:03] time [1:45:04] filtering [1:45:04] to [1:45:05] try [1:45:06] and [1:45:06] prevent [1:45:06] people [1:45:07] from [1:45:07] being [1:45:07] able [1:45:07] to [1:45:08] coordinate [1:45:08] whether [1:45:09] that's [1:45:10] grooming [1:45:10] behavior [1:45:11] or [1:45:11] whether [1:45:11] that [1:45:12] is [1:45:12] other [1:45:13] kinds [1:45:13] of [1:45:13] unsaved [1:45:14] behaviors [1:45:14] we [1:45:15] use [1:45:15] that [1:45:15] real [1:45:15] time [1:45:16] chat [1:45:16] filtering [1:45:17] so [1:45:17] that [1:45:17] people [1:45:18] are [1:45:19] not [1:45:19] able [1:45:19] to [1:45:19] coordinate [1:45:20] so [1:45:20] for [1:45:20] example [1:45:21] a [1:45:21] groomer [1:45:21] would [1:45:22] not [1:45:23] be [1:45:23] able [1:45:23] to [1:45:24] get [1:45:24] a [1:45:24] child's [1:45:25] phone [1:45:25] number [1:45:26] or [1:45:26] home [1:45:27] address [1:45:28] because [1:45:28] we [1:45:29] would [1:45:29] block [1:45:29] any [1:45:30] numbers [1:45:31] that [1:45:31] we [1:45:31] see [1:45:32] that [1:45:32] they're [1:45:32] trying [1:45:32] to [1:45:32] chat [1:45:33] and [1:45:33] now [1:45:34] you're [1:45:34] going to [1:45:34] actually [1:45:35] block [1:45:35] chats [1:45:35] for [1:45:36] players [1:45:37] below [1:45:37] nine [1:45:37] years [1:45:37] old [1:45:38] right [1:45:38] correct [1:45:39] so [1:45:39] that [1:45:39] has [1:45:40] always [1:45:40] been [1:45:41] in [1:45:41] place [1:45:41] prospectively [1:45:43] so [1:45:43] starting [1:45:44] soon [1:45:45] but [1:45:45] announced [1:45:45] yesterday [1:45:46] no [1:45:47] players [1:45:47] under [1:45:47] the [1:45:48] age [1:45:48] of [1:45:48] nine [1:45:48] will [1:45:48] be [1:45:48] able [1:45:49] to [1:45:49] chat [1:45:49] at [1:45:49] all [1:45:50] players [1:45:50] between [1:45:51] the [1:45:51] ages [1:45:51] of [1:45:52] 10 [1:45:53] and [1:45:55] 15 [1:45:56] will [1:45:56] have [1:45:56] a [1:45:56] different [1:45:56] experience [1:45:58] and [1:45:58] then [1:45:58] others [1:45:59] a [1:45:59] different [1:45:59] experience [1:46:00] as [1:46:00] well [1:46:00] so [1:46:00] although [1:46:00] those [1:46:01] are [1:46:01] you [1:46:01] know [1:46:01] as [1:46:02] a [1:46:02] mother [1:46:02] yourself [1:46:03] those [1:46:03] are [1:46:04] practically [1:46:04] kids [1:46:04] too [1:46:05] preteens [1:46:06] and [1:46:06] midteens [1:46:07] yeah [1:46:07] and we [1:46:08] do [1:46:09] have [1:46:09] developmental [1:46:10] psychologists [1:46:10] on [1:46:11] staff [1:46:11] that [1:46:12] we [1:46:12] obviously [1:46:13] speak to [1:46:14] about [1:46:14] developmental [1:46:15] stages [1:46:15] we [1:46:16] also [1:46:17] part [1:46:17] of [1:46:17] the [1:46:17] demarcation [1:46:18] in [1:46:19] those [1:46:19] ages [1:46:19] comes [1:46:19] from [1:46:20] global [1:46:20] game [1:46:21] ratings [1:46:21] when [1:46:21] you [1:46:22] look [1:46:22] globally [1:46:22] at [1:46:22] ratings [1:46:23] you [1:46:24] tend [1:46:24] to [1:46:24] see [1:46:24] different [1:46:25] ratings [1:46:25] for [1:46:25] under [1:46:26] nines [1:46:26] 9 [1:46:27] to [1:46:27] 12 [1:46:27] 12 [1:46:28] to [1:46:28] 15 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age [1:48:43] verification [1:48:44] protocols [1:48:44] again [1:48:45] this [1:48:45] is [1:48:45] pre [1:48:45] yesterday's [1:48:46] announcement [1:48:47] so [1:48:47] but [1:48:47] could [1:48:48] can [1:48:48] you [1:48:48] tell [1:48:48] us [1:48:48] about [1:48:49] those [1:48:49] can [1:48:51] you [1:48:51] comment [1:48:51] on [1:48:51] reports [1:48:52] we [1:48:52] gather [1:48:52] that [1:48:52] these [1:48:53] even [1:48:53] these [1:48:53] age [1:48:54] verification [1:48:55] protocols [1:48:56] can [1:48:56] actually [1:48:57] be [1:48:57] gained [1:48:57] for [1:48:58] example [1:48:59] on [1:48:59] TikTok [1:48:59] some [1:49:00] people [1:49:00] are [1:49:00] selling [1:49:01] images [1:49:01] of [1:49:01] their [1:49:02] face [1:49:02] selling [1:49:03] images [1:49:03] of [1:49:04] their [1:49:04] face [1:49:04] adults [1:49:05] for [1:49:05] kids [1:49:05] to [1:49:05] use [1:49:06] so [1:49:07] can [1:49:07] your [1:49:07] system [1:49:08] human [1:49:09] and [1:49:09] automated [1:49:09] can [1:49:10] your [1:49:10] system [1:49:10] work [1:49:11] around [1:49:11] that [1:49:12] work [1:49:12] around [1:49:13] yeah [1:49:15] so [1:49:16] we [1:49:16] use [1:49:16] a [1:49:17] technology [1:49:17] that [1:49:18] is [1:49:18] developed [1:49:19] by a [1:49:19] third [1:49:19] party [1:49:20] called [1:49:20] persona [1:49:21] it [1:49:21] is [1:49:21] a [1:49:22] facial [1:49:22] age [1:49:22] estimation [1:49:23] tool [1:49:24] notably [1:49:25] it [1:49:25] uses [1:49:26] a [1:49:26] video [1:49:26] selfie [1:49:27] so [1:49:27] in [1:49:28] the [1:49:28] example [1:49:28] that [1:49:28] you [1:49:28] just [1:49:29] described [1:49:29] it [1:49:30] is [1:49:30] not [1:49:30] possible [1:49:31] to [1:49:31] just [1:49:31] look [1:49:32] at [1:49:32] someone's [1:49:33] face [1:49:33] and [1:49:33] to [1:49:34] say [1:49:35] okay [1:49:35] they're [1:49:36] over [1:49:36] a [1:49:37] certain [1:49:37] age [1:49:37] or [1:49:37] below 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vastly [1:50:30] reduce [1:50:31] the [1:50:31] risk [1:50:31] it [1:50:33] is [1:50:33] possible [1:50:33] that [1:50:34] any [1:50:34] parent [1:50:35] could [1:50:36] say [1:50:36] sure [1:50:37] I'll [1:50:37] use [1:50:37] my [1:50:37] face [1:50:38] so [1:50:38] that [1:50:38] you [1:50:38] can [1:50:38] have [1:50:38] access [1:50:39] to [1:50:39] all [1:50:39] of [1:50:39] the [1:50:39] different [1:50:40] tools [1:50:40] and [1:50:40] if [1:50:40] a [1:50:40] parent [1:50:41] makes [1:50:41] that [1:50:41] choice [1:50:41] our [1:50:42] technology [1:50:43] will [1:50:43] not [1:50:43] know [1:50:43] that [1:50:44] it's [1:50:44] the [1:50:44] parent [1:50:45] and [1:50:45] not [1:50:45] the [1:50:45] child [1:50:45] so [1:50:46] almost [1:50:46] any [1:50:47] technology [1:50:47] on [1:50:47] the [1:50:48] planet [1:50:48] can [1:50:49] be [1:50:49] gamed [1:50:49] and [1:50:49] that's [1:50:50] true [1:50:50] online [1:50:51] and [1:50:51] off [1:50:51] what [1:50:52] we 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safety [1:51:28] we [1:51:28] would [1:51:28] be [1:51:29] absolutely [1:51:29] happy [1:51:29] to [1:51:30] speak [1:51:30] with [1:51:30] them [1:51:31] and [1:51:31] the [1:51:32] reverse [1:51:32] so [1:51:32] you're [1:51:33] not [1:51:33] yet [1:51:33] we're [1:51:35] not [1:51:35] yet [1:51:35] but [1:51:35] I [1:51:35] will [1:51:36] note [1:51:36] that [1:51:36] I [1:51:36] have [1:51:37] not [1:51:37] personally [1:51:37] been [1:51:37] made [1:51:38] aware [1:51:38] of [1:51:38] people [1:51:39] selling [1:51:40] the [1:51:40] images [1:51:42] or [1:51:42] videos [1:51:42] of [1:51:43] the [1:51:45] facial [1:51:45] age [1:51:45] estimation [1:51:46] so [1:51:46] the [1:51:47] committee [1:51:47] is [1:51:47] making [1:51:47] you [1:51:48] aware [1:51:48] right [1:51:48] now [1:51:49] we'll [1:51:49] forward [1:51:50] you [1:51:50] any [1:51:51] other [1:51:51] details [1:51:51] we [1:51:51] have [1:51:52] on [1:51:52] that [1:51:52] but [1:51:52] please [1:51:52] start 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[1:52:21] things [1:52:22] to try [1:52:22] to [1:52:22] circumvent [1:52:23] our [1:52:23] systems [1:52:24] to [1:52:24] question [1:52:25] and [1:52:25] then [1:52:25] repose [1:52:26] the [1:52:27] facial [1:52:27] age [1:52:27] estimation [1:52:28] prompt [1:52:29] to [1:52:29] those [1:52:30] users [1:52:30] so [1:52:30] an [1:52:31] example [1:52:31] would [1:52:31] be [1:52:32] if [1:52:32] someone [1:52:33] had [1:52:33] let's [1:52:34] say [1:52:34] an [1:52:34] adult [1:52:35] stand [1:52:35] in [1:52:35] for [1:52:35] them [1:52:36] for [1:52:36] the [1:52:36] facial [1:52:37] age [1:52:37] estimation [1:52:38] process [1:52:38] and [1:52:38] were [1:52:39] a [1:52:40] 21 [1:52:40] plus [1:52:41] rating [1:52:41] because [1:52:41] they [1:52:42] got [1:52:42] an [1:52:42] adult [1:52:42] to [1:52:43] do [1:52:43] it [1:52:43] for [1:52:43] them [1:52:43] as [1:52:44] they're [1:52:44] using [1:52:45] roblox [1:52:45] and [1:52:46] typing [1:52:46] words [1:52:47] that 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cyber [1:54:37] line [1:54:37] reports [1:54:38] to [1:54:38] NECME [1:54:39] which [1:54:39] is [1:54:39] US [1:54:40] based [1:54:40] the [1:54:40] national [1:54:40] center [1:54:41] for [1:54:41] missing [1:54:42] and [1:54:42] exploited [1:54:42] children [1:54:43] 20,000 [1:54:44] cyber [1:54:45] tip [1:54:45] line [1:54:45] reports [1:54:46] what [1:54:47] are [1:54:47] these [1:54:47] reports [1:54:48] about [1:54:48] roughly [1:54:49] and [1:54:50] so [1:54:50] just [1:54:51] so [1:54:51] we [1:54:51] can [1:54:51] all [1:54:51] get [1:54:52] a [1:54:52] sense [1:54:52] of [1:54:52] the [1:54:53] harms [1:54:53] that [1:54:54] can [1:54:54] befall [1:54:55] children [1:54:55] on [1:54:55] your [1:54:55] platform [1:54:56] yeah [1:55:00] so [1:55:00] we [1:55:00] have [1:55:00] a [1:55:00] duty [1:55:01] to [1:55:01] report [1:55:01] anything [1:55:02] to [1:55:02] the [1:55:02] national [1:55:02] center [1:55:03] that [1:55:04] could [1:55:05] be [1:55:05] a [1:55:05] potential [1:55:06] instance [1:55:07] of [1:55:07] illicit [1:55:07] activity [1:55:08] or [1:55:08] something [1:55:09] that [1:55:10] could [1:55:10] be [1:55:10] harmful [1:55:11] to [1:55:11] children [1:55:11] and [1:55:13] we [1:55:13] report [1:55:14] those [1:55:14] every [1:55:15] time [1:55:16] that [1:55:16] we [1:55:16] have [1:55:17] them [1:55:17] and [1:55:19] you [1:55:19] know [1:55:19] 20,000 [1:55:20] is [1:55:21] obviously [1:55:21] a [1:55:21] large [1:55:22] number [1:55:22] Roblox [1:55:23] has [1:55:23] 144 [1:55:24] million [1:55:26] daily [1:55:26] active [1:55:27] users [1:55:27] and [1:55:28] so [1:55:28] and [1:55:28] we [1:55:29] report [1:55:29] every [1:55:30] instance [1:55:30] even [1:55:31] if [1:55:31] it's [1:55:31] a [1:55:32] duplicate [1:55:32] instance [1:55:33] because [1:55:33] that [1:55:33] is [1:55:34] our [1:55:34] duty [1:55:37] to [1:55:37] the [1:55:37] national [1:55:37] center [1:55:38] so [1:55:39] those [1:55:40] are [1:55:40] potential [1:55:41] cases [1:55:41] or [1:55:41] things [1:55:42] that [1:55:42] we [1:55:42] would [1:55:42] want [1:55:42] them [1:55:42] to [1:55:43] analyze [1:55:43] it [1:55:44] doesn't [1:55:44] mean [1:55:44] that [1:55:44] everything [1:55:45] is [1:55:45] problematic [1:55:45] and [1:55:46] some [1:55:46] of [1:55:46] those [1:55:46] are [1:55:47] duplicative [1:55:48] but [1:55:48] that is [1:55:50] how we [1:55:50] work [1:55:51] with [1:55:51] NCMEC [1:55:52] currently [1:55:52] I [1:55:53] understand [1:55:54] 20,000 [1:55:55] is [1:55:56] point [1:55:57] how many [1:55:57] zeros [1:55:58] percent [1:55:58] of [1:55:59] the [1:56:00] overall [1:56:00] magnitude [1:56:01] but [1:56:02] as [1:56:02] an [1:56:02] absolute [1:56:02] number [1:56:03] it [1:56:03] still [1:56:03] catches [1:56:04] attention [1:56:05] so [1:56:05] again [1:56:05] roughly [1:56:06] what [1:56:06] are [1:56:06] those [1:56:06] reports [1:56:07] about [1:56:07] why [1:56:07] did [1:56:07] you [1:56:08] feel [1:56:08] moved [1:56:08] to [1:56:08] report [1:56:09] them [1:56:09] to [1:56:10] NICMEC [1:56:10] we could [1:56:13] get you [1:56:13] additional [1:56:14] information [1:56:15] on [1:56:16] when we [1:56:17] report [1:56:18] things [1:56:18] to [1:56:18] NICMEC [1:56:19] from [1:56:20] members [1:56:20] of our [1:56:21] law [1:56:21] enforcement [1:56:21] team [1:56:22] but [1:56:22] those [1:56:23] are [1:56:23] potential [1:56:24] instances [1:56:24] of [1:56:25] child [1:56:25] endangerment [1:56:26] or [1:56:26] illicit [1:56:27] activity [1:56:27] involving [1:56:28] children [1:56:28] and [1:56:29] that's [1:56:29] when [1:56:29] we [1:56:29] report [1:56:30] all [1:56:37] right [1:56:37] thank [1:56:37] you [1:56:37] and [1:56:37] what [1:56:38] data [1:56:39] can [1:56:39] you [1:56:39] provide [1:56:40] on [1:56:40] harmful [1:56:41] in-game [1:56:42] interactions [1:56:43] and [1:56:43] what [1:56:44] percentage [1:56:44] of [1:56:45] them [1:56:45] are 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[1:57:12] guide [1:57:13] us [1:57:13] in [1:57:13] crafting [1:57:14] the [1:57:15] legislation [1:57:15] that [1:57:15] we're [1:57:16] contemplating [1:57:16] lastly [1:57:17] at this [1:57:17] point [1:57:18] in time [1:57:18] for [1:57:18] roblox [1:57:18] what are [1:57:19] your [1:57:19] current [1:57:20] reporting [1:57:21] mechanisms [1:57:22] and [1:57:22] what's [1:57:23] the [1:57:23] turnaround [1:57:23] time [1:57:24] for you [1:57:25] to [1:57:25] respond [1:57:25] to [1:57:26] these [1:57:26] reports [1:57:26] and [1:57:27] take [1:57:27] action [1:57:27] so [1:57:29] there [1:57:30] there [1:57:30] are [1:57:30] different [1:57:30] reports [1:57:31] on [1:57:32] roblox [1:57:32] I [1:57:33] will [1:57:33] note [1:57:33] that [1:57:34] for [1:57:34] governments [1:57:34] we [1:57:35] have [1:57:36] a [1:57:36] special [1:57:36] channel [1:57:37] that [1:57:38] we [1:57:38] make [1:57:38] available [1:57:38] to [1:57:38] governments [1:57:39] including [1:57:39] to 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[1:58:05] are [1:58:05] mindful [1:58:06] that [1:58:06] roblox [1:58:07] is [1:58:08] not [1:58:08] like [1:58:08] other [1:58:08] companies [1:58:09] that [1:58:09] say [1:58:10] you [1:58:10] have [1:58:10] to [1:58:10] be [1:58:10] 13 [1:58:11] to [1:58:11] use [1:58:12] our [1:58:12] service [1:58:12] we [1:58:13] have [1:58:13] young [1:58:13] children [1:58:14] on [1:58:15] roblox [1:58:16] who [1:58:17] are [1:58:17] playing [1:58:18] with [1:58:18] friends [1:58:18] who [1:58:18] are [1:58:19] learning [1:58:19] to [1:58:19] code [1:58:19] who [1:58:20] are [1:58:20] using [1:58:20] roblox [1:58:20] in [1:58:21] education [1:58:21] because [1:58:22] we [1:58:24] that [1:58:24] reporting [1:58:25] for [1:58:25] them [1:58:25] can [1:58:25] be [1:58:26] difficult [1:58:26] so [1:58:26] we [1:58:27] want [1:58:27] that [1:58:27] reporting [1:58:27] functionality [1:58:28] to [1:58:28] be [1:58:28] there [1:58:29] we [1:58:29] also [1:58:29] realize [1:58:30] that [1:58:30] we [1:58:30] need [1:58:31] things [1:58:31] that [1:58:31] allow [1:58:31] them [1:58:32] to [1:58:32] get [1:58:32] help [1:58:32] even [1:58:33] if [1:58:33] they [1:58:33] aren't [1:58:33] able [1:58:34] to [1:58:34] navigate [1:58:35] to [1:58:35] a [1:58:36] reporting [1:58:36] menu [1:58:37] and [1:58:38] so [1:58:38] we [1:58:38] do [1:58:39] use [1:58:39] AI [1:58:40] in [1:58:40] terms [1:58:41] of [1:58:41] filtering [1:58:41] communication [1:58:43] and [1:58:45] other [1:58:46] what we [1:58:47] call [1:58:47] multimodal [1:58:48] moderation [1:58:49] to be [1:58:50] able [1:58:50] to [1:58:50] understand [1:58:51] where [1:58:52] potential [1:58:52] instances [1:58:53] of [1:58:53] abuse [1:58:54] occur [1:58:54] you [1:58:56] mentioned [1:58:56] that [1:58:56] you [1:58:57] respond [1:58:57] to [1:58:58] or [1:58:58] take [1:58:58] action [1:58:58] on [1:58:59] these [1:58:59] reports [1:58:59] within [1:58:59] hours [1:59:00] how many [1:59:01] hours [1:59:01] is [1:59:01] that [1:59:01] and [1:59:02] on [1:59:02] the [1:59:02] other [1:59:02] end [1:59:03] how many [1:59:04] hours [1:59:05] or [1:59:05] days [1:59:05] is [1:59:05] the [1:59:05] longest [1:59:06] turnaround [1:59:06] time [1:59:07] for [1:59:07] roblox [1:59:07] for [1:59:09] the [1:59:10] reports [1:59:10] that [1:59:11] come [1:59:11] from [1:59:11] government [1:59:12] from [1:59:12] our [1:59:12] trusted [1:59:13] flaggers [1:59:15] it's [1:59:16] usually [1:59:17] a matter [1:59:17] of [1:59:17] hours [1:59:18] sometimes [1:59:19] they [1:59:19] submit [1:59:20] law [1:59:20] enforcement [1:59:21] requests [1:59:22] to [1:59:22] us [1:59:22] through [1:59:23] a [1:59:23] portal [1:59:23] that [1:59:24] we [1:59:24] have [1:59:24] called [1:59:24] codex [1:59:25] and [1:59:25] depending [1:59:25] on [1:59:25] the [1:59:25] size [1:59:26] of [1:59:26] that [1:59:26] request [1:59:27] that [1:59:27] could [1:59:27] take [1:59:27] longer [1:59:28] we [1:59:28] usually [1:59:28] acknowledge [1:59:29] those [1:59:29] but [1:59:29] sometimes [1:59:30] it [1:59:30] takes [1:59:30] longer [1:59:30] to [1:59:31] amalgamate [1:59:31] the [1:59:32] data [1:59:32] and [1:59:34] other [1:59:36] reports [1:59:37] user reports [1:59:38] we triage [1:59:38] those [1:59:39] to make [1:59:39] sure [1:59:39] that if [1:59:39] somebody [1:59:40] is [1:59:40] reporting [1:59:40] something [1:59:41] that's [1:59:42] materially [1:59:43] harmful [1:59:44] as [1:59:44] opposed [1:59:44] to [1:59:45] just [1:59:45] annoying [1:59:45] or [1:59:45] bothersome [1:59:46] that [1:59:46] we're [1:59:46] looking [1:59:47] at [1:59:47] those [1:59:47] faster [1:59:48] I [1:59:48] don't [1:59:48] have [1:59:48] information [1:59:49] on [1:59:49] when [1:59:49] the [1:59:50] longest [1:59:50] what [1:59:50] the [1:59:51] longest [1:59:51] has [1:59:51] taken [1:59:52] but [1:59:52] we [1:59:52] strive [1:59:52] to [1:59:53] answer [1:59:53] all [1:59:53] reports [1:59:54] within [1:59:55] a [1:59:56] matter [1:59:56] of [1:59:56] hours [1:59:56] though [1:59:58] you [1:59:58] don't [1:59:58] have [1:59:58] data [1:59:59] on [1:59:59] the [1:59:59] longest [2:00:00] would [2:00:00] it [2:00:00] take [2:00:01] days [2:00:02] for [2:00:02] example [2:00:02] or [2:00:03] just [2:00:03] hours [2:00:03] also [2:00:04] in [2:00:04] terms [2:00:04] of [2:00:04] longest [2:00:05] I [2:00:06] am [2:00:06] not [2:00:06] aware [2:00:06] of [2:00:06] any [2:00:07] reports [2:00:07] having [2:00:08] taken [2:00:08] days [2:00:09] however [2:00:09] I [2:00:10] don't [2:00:11] know [2:00:11] the [2:00:11] full [2:00:11] gamut [2:00:12] of [2:00:12] what [2:00:12] somebody [2:00:13] might [2:00:13] be [2:00:13] reporting [2:00:13] that [2:00:14] could [2:00:14] require [2:00:14] more [2:00:15] time [2:00:15] so [2:00:15] again [2:00:16] we [2:00:16] would [2:00:16] be [2:00:16] happy [2:00:16] to [2:00:17] follow [2:00:17] up [2:00:17] with [2:00:17] more [2:00:17] information [2:00:18] on [2:00:18] reporting [2:00:18] times [2:00:19] just [2:00:19] to [2:00:19] make [2:00:19] you [2:00:19] feel [2:00:20] comfortable [2:00:20] that [2:00:20] we're [2:00:21] either [2:00:22] doing [2:00:22] the [2:00:22] right [2:00:22] thing [2:00:22] or [2:00:23] that [2:00:23] we [2:00:23] have [2:00:23] more [2:00:23] work [2:00:23] to [2:00:24] do [2:00:24] we'd [2:00:24] be [2:00:24] happy [2:00:24] to [2:00:24] give [2:00:24] you [2:00:25] some [2:00:25] information [2:00:25] thank [2:00:26] you [2:00:26] and [2:00:26] of [2:00:26] course [2:00:27] as [2:00:27] I'm [2:00:27] sure [2:00:27] you [2:00:27] know [2:00:27] it's [2:00:28] not [2:00:28] about [2:00:28] making [2:00:29] the [2:00:29] committee [2:00:29] feel [2:00:29] comfortable [2:00:30] it's [2:00:30] just [2:00:30] that [2:00:30] our [2:00:30] sense [2:00:31] as [2:00:31] I'm [2:00:31] sure [2:00:31] you [2:00:32] have [2:00:32] that [2:00:32] between [2:00:33] hours [2:00:33] and [2:00:34] days [2:00:34] could [2:00:34] make [2:00:34] the [2:00:35] difference [2:00:35] between [2:00:35] when [2:00:36] the [2:00:37] predator [2:00:39] or [2:00:39] the [2:00:40] groomer [2:00:40] will [2:00:41] be able [2:00:42] successfully [2:00:43] to [2:00:43] migrate [2:00:44] the [2:00:44] young [2:00:45] person [2:00:45] or [2:00:45] the [2:00:45] child [2:00:46] to [2:00:46] an [2:00:47] encrypted [2:00:47] platform [2:00:48] beyond [2:00:48] the [2:00:49] reach [2:00:49] even [2:00:50] of [2:00:50] Roblox's [2:00:51] mechanisms [2:00:52] so [2:00:53] just [2:00:53] that [2:00:54] thank [2:00:54] you [2:00:54] very [2:00:54] much [2:00:55] Ms. [2:00:56] Galako [2:00:56] and [2:00:56] Mr. [2:00:57] sorry [2:00:57] I don't [2:00:58] see your [2:00:58] name [2:00:58] on [2:00:59] screen [2:01:00] all right [2:01:02] thank you [2:01:02] very much [2:01:03] to [2:01:03] both [2:01:04] of [2:01:04] you [2:01:05] for [2:01:05] joining [2:01:06] us [2:01:06] and [2:01:06] if [2:01:06] you [2:01:06] don't [2:01:06] have [2:01:07] to [2:01:07] log [2:01:07] off [2:01:07] yet [2:01:08] please [2:01:09] stay [2:01:09] on [2:01:10] but [2:01:10] if [2:01:10] you [2:01:10] need [2:01:10] to [2:01:11] we'll [2:01:11] be [2:01:11] in [2:01:11] touch [2:01:12] the [2:01:13] committee [2:01:13] will [2:01:13] be in [2:01:15] other [2:01:15] resource [2:01:16] persons [2:01:16] here [2:01:17] could [2:01:17] I [2:01:17] move [2:01:18] now [2:01:18] to [2:01:19] our [2:01:22] NGOs [2:01:22] who [2:01:22] are [2:01:22] here [2:01:23] please [2:01:25] take [2:01:25] your [2:01:26] turns [2:01:26] if [2:01:26] you'd [2:01:27] like [2:01:27] to [2:01:27] weigh [2:01:27] in [2:01:27] on [2:01:27] this [2:01:28] what [2:01:28] safeguards [2:01:29] should [2:01:30] be [2:01:30] mandatory [2:01:31] to [2:01:31] roblox [2:01:33] that [2:01:33] really [2:01:34] can't [2:01:34] help [2:01:35] but [2:01:37] in [2:01:37] particular [2:01:38] can't [2:01:38] help [2:01:38] the [2:01:39] minors [2:01:39] to [2:01:40] play [2:01:40] or [2:01:41] communicate [2:01:42] with [2:01:43] them [2:01:43] who [2:01:44] would [2:01:44] like [2:01:44] to [2:01:44] go [2:01:44] first [2:01:45] yes [2:01:46] oh [2:01:46] not [2:01:47] the [2:01:47] NGO [2:01:48] but [2:01:48] please [2:01:48] use [2:01:49] the [2:01:50] palace [2:01:50] of [2:01:50] CWC [2:01:51] just [2:01:51] to [2:01:51] contribute [2:01:52] to [2:01:52] the [2:01:52] conversation [2:01:53] we [2:01:53] appreciate [2:01:54] roblox [2:01:55] efforts [2:01:56] to [2:01:56] to [2:01:57] liaise [2:01:58] and [2:01:58] coordinate [2:01:59] with [2:01:59] the [2:01:59] DICT [2:02:00] and [2:02:00] the [2:02:00] CICC [2:02:01] but [2:02:01] for [2:02:01] the [2:02:01] council [2:02:02] for [2:02:02] the [2:02:02] welfare [2:02:02] of [2:02:02] children [2:02:03] and [2:02:03] I [2:02:03] think [2:02:03] everybody [2:02:04] would [2:02:04] agree [2:02:04] roblox [2:02:06] is [2:02:06] a [2:02:06] product [2:02:07] for [2:02:07] children [2:02:07] unlike [2:02:08] social [2:02:08] media [2:02:08] which [2:02:09] we [2:02:09] can [2:02:09] argue [2:02:09] that [2:02:10] it's [2:02:10] not [2:02:10] really [2:02:11] for [2:02:11] the [2:02:11] small [2:02:11] kids [2:02:12] roadblock [2:02:13] is [2:02:13] for [2:02:13] kids [2:02:13] so [2:02:14] it [2:02:14] has [2:02:14] no [2:02:14] reason [2:02:15] not [2:02:15] to [2:02:15] be [2:02:15] safe [2:02:15] for [2:02:16] children [2:02:16] so [2:02:17] while [2:02:17] we [2:02:17] appreciate [2:02:18] the [2:02:18] responsible [2:02:19] gatekeeping [2:02:20] by [2:02:21] requiring [2:02:22] ID [2:02:22] spatial [2:02:22] verification [2:02:23] through [2:02:23] AI [2:02:24] and [2:02:24] other [2:02:24] methods [2:02:25] it's [2:02:26] just [2:02:26] the [2:02:26] tip [2:02:27] of [2:02:28] the [2:02:28] iceberg [2:02:28] the [2:02:29] important [2:02:30] thing [2:02:30] for [2:02:30] the [2:02:30] council [2:02:31] for [2:02:31] the [2:02:31] welfare [2:02:31] of [2:02:31] children [2:02:32] is [2:02:32] to [2:02:32] maintain [2:02:34] the [2:02:34] safety [2:02:35] for [2:02:36] children [2:02:36] of [2:02:36] that [2:02:37] environment [2:02:37] the [2:02:38] gaming [2:02:38] platform [2:02:39] roblox [2:02:40] mentioned [2:02:40] the use [2:02:41] of AI [2:02:41] we [2:02:42] appreciate [2:02:42] that [2:02:42] because [2:02:43] in [2:02:43] cases [2:02:44] with [2:02:44] them [2:02:44] share [2:02:45] their [2:02:45] AI [2:02:46] identifying [2:02:47] images [2:02:47] and [2:02:47] even [2:02:48] the [2:02:48] conversation [2:02:48] or [2:02:49] the [2:02:49] language [2:02:49] so [2:02:49] if [2:02:50] roadblocks [2:02:50] really [2:02:50] implementing [2:02:51] that [2:02:51] that's [2:02:52] a step [2:02:53] in the [2:02:53] right [2:02:53] direction [2:02:53] but [2:02:54] we [2:02:55] admit [2:02:55] that [2:02:56] there [2:02:56] are [2:02:56] limitations [2:02:56] in [2:02:57] technology [2:02:57] but [2:02:58] self-policing [2:02:59] the [2:03:00] platform [2:03:01] and making [2:03:02] it safe [2:03:02] for [2:03:02] children [2:03:02] is [2:03:03] a [2:03:03] mandatory [2:03:04] thing [2:03:05] to do [2:03:06] globe [2:03:07] PLDT [2:03:08] Smart [2:03:09] Globe [2:03:10] Pintex [2:03:10] here [2:03:10] I think [2:03:11] Gcash [2:03:11] is also [2:03:11] Paymaya [2:03:12] all of [2:03:13] these [2:03:13] internet [2:03:14] intermediaries [2:03:15] are [2:03:15] self-policing [2:03:17] Madam Chair [2:03:17] pursuant to [2:03:19] RA [2:03:19] 11930 [2:03:20] the [2:03:21] anti-ocytosimac [2:03:22] and if we [2:03:23] ask them [2:03:23] now [2:03:23] Madam Chair [2:03:24] I'm confident [2:03:24] especially [2:03:26] attorney [2:03:28] can give you [2:03:29] a figure [2:03:29] how many [2:03:30] URLs [2:03:32] and [2:03:33] harmful [2:03:34] sites [2:03:34] that they [2:03:35] have [2:03:35] taken [2:03:35] down [2:03:36] Madam Chair [2:03:36] I'm just [2:03:36] concerned [2:03:37] that while [2:03:37] Roblox [2:03:38] is [2:03:38] mentioning [2:03:39] a lot [2:03:40] of [2:03:40] technologies [2:03:41] being used [2:03:41] and methods [2:03:42] they cannot [2:03:43] give us [2:03:43] data [2:03:45] Madam Chair [2:03:46] or figures [2:03:46] while [2:03:48] in the [2:03:48] 2024 [2:03:49] NECMET report [2:03:50] Roblox [2:03:51] has reported [2:03:52] 24,522 [2:03:53] cyber [2:03:54] tripline [2:03:54] reports [2:03:55] it can be [2:03:57] one of two [2:03:57] things [2:03:57] Madam Chair [2:03:58] it can be [2:03:59] that Roblox [2:04:00] is relatively [2:04:01] safe [2:04:01] while of course [2:04:02] we don't want [2:04:02] children to be [2:04:03] armed [2:04:03] it's relatively [2:04:04] low [2:04:05] or their [2:04:06] their mechanism [2:04:07] is [2:04:07] safety mechanisms [2:04:08] are not really [2:04:09] functioning [2:04:09] that well [2:04:10] or the [2:04:11] safety mechanism [2:04:12] is that [2:04:12] it's not [2:04:13] that robust [2:04:14] for children [2:04:14] that's why [2:04:15] for the [2:04:15] council [2:04:16] for the [2:04:16] welfare of [2:04:16] children [2:04:17] while we [2:04:18] think that [2:04:18] perhaps [2:04:20] banning [2:04:20] the chat [2:04:22] function [2:04:22] for below [2:04:23] 9 is a [2:04:23] good step [2:04:24] it's a [2:04:25] step in [2:04:25] the right [2:04:25] direction [2:04:26] but if [2:04:27] you check [2:04:27] the studies [2:04:28] on OSAEG [2:04:29] Madam Chair [2:04:30] when it [2:04:31] comes to [2:04:31] children [2:04:32] below [2:04:32] between [2:04:33] 12 to [2:04:33] 17 [2:04:34] Madam Chair [2:04:35] 95% [2:04:36] are already [2:04:36] in the [2:04:37] internet [2:04:37] and in [2:04:38] 2021 [2:04:38] 20% [2:04:39] of those [2:04:40] children [2:04:40] were victimized [2:04:41] or were [2:04:42] subjected [2:04:42] to OSAEG [2:04:43] for an [2:04:43] approximately [2:04:43] 2 million [2:04:44] Filipino [2:04:45] children [2:04:45] Madam Chair [2:04:46] so what [2:04:46] happens [2:04:47] to those [2:04:47] above [2:04:48] 9 years [2:04:48] 9 years [2:04:49] old [2:04:49] Madam Chair [2:04:49] so perhaps [2:04:51] above [2:04:52] 9 children [2:04:53] should also [2:04:54] be regulated [2:04:55] and not [2:04:56] just [2:04:56] by physical [2:04:58] manpower [2:04:58] but perhaps [2:04:59] with the [2:04:59] use of [2:05:00] AI [2:05:00] that's why [2:05:01] we agree [2:05:01] with the [2:05:03] amendment [2:05:03] of Republic [2:05:04] Act [2:05:04] 11930 [2:05:05] Madam Chair [2:05:06] because aside [2:05:07] from strengthening [2:05:07] the NCC [2:05:08] OSAEG [2:05:09] it also [2:05:10] expanded [2:05:11] the definition [2:05:12] of children [2:05:12] to include [2:05:13] AI [2:05:13] to make [2:05:14] room for [2:05:14] AI [2:05:15] and other [2:05:15] emerging [2:05:16] technologies [2:05:16] Madam Chair [2:05:17] because [2:05:18] in other [2:05:18] countries [2:05:18] they're not [2:05:19] even [2:05:19] talking [2:05:20] about [2:05:20] AI [2:05:20] anymore [2:05:21] they're [2:05:21] talking [2:05:21] about [2:05:22] quantum [2:05:22] technology [2:05:23] Madam Chair [2:05:23] which is [2:05:24] more problematic [2:05:25] according to [2:05:26] experts [2:05:27] that's why [2:05:28] we support [2:05:28] that Madam Chair [2:05:29] but aside [2:05:30] from that [2:05:30] Madam Chair [2:05:30] what else [2:05:31] is [2:05:31] Roblox [2:05:33] doing [2:05:33] to make [2:05:34] the environment [2:05:34] safe [2:05:35] if there is [2:05:35] such a [2:05:35] reporting [2:05:36] mechanism [2:05:36] what's [2:05:37] the figure [2:05:37] how do [2:05:38] they plug [2:05:39] reports [2:05:39] are these [2:05:40] reports [2:05:41] by users [2:05:41] by parents [2:05:42] or do [2:05:43] they save [2:05:43] self-police [2:05:44] like our [2:05:45] internet [2:05:45] intermediaries [2:05:46] how do [2:05:47] they regulate [2:05:49] how do [2:05:50] how people [2:05:51] report to [2:05:52] them [2:05:52] how are [2:05:53] they linked [2:05:54] to our [2:05:54] law enforcement [2:05:55] agencies [2:05:55] I'm not [2:05:55] sure if [2:05:56] they are [2:05:56] linked [2:05:57] to [2:05:57] the [2:05:57] ICT [2:05:58] and [2:05:58] CICC [2:05:59] Madam Chair [2:05:59] they mentioned [2:06:00] that the [2:06:01] government [2:06:01] has a [2:06:02] special [2:06:02] channel [2:06:03] of [2:06:03] communication [2:06:04] or way [2:06:04] of [2:06:04] communicating [2:06:05] with [2:06:06] Roblox [2:06:07] I'm not [2:06:07] sure [2:06:07] if [2:06:08] CICC [2:06:09] and [2:06:09] ICT [2:06:09] can [2:06:10] confirm [2:06:10] that [2:06:11] because [2:06:11] I'm not [2:06:11] I'm not [2:06:13] familiar [2:06:14] with any [2:06:14] reporting [2:06:15] mechanism [2:06:15] Madam Chair [2:06:16] and [2:06:16] while the [2:06:18] use of [2:06:18] AI [2:06:18] perhaps [2:06:19] is [2:06:19] being done [2:06:20] now [2:06:21] and perhaps [2:06:21] will be [2:06:22] strengthened [2:06:22] in the [2:06:22] future [2:06:23] the fact [2:06:24] that the [2:06:24] PNP [2:06:24] has reported [2:06:25] games [2:06:27] radicalize [2:06:27] or people [2:06:28] radicalizing [2:06:29] our kids [2:06:29] in that [2:06:29] platform [2:06:30] it means [2:06:31] that system [2:06:32] or that [2:06:32] protection [2:06:33] mechanism [2:06:33] is not [2:06:34] really [2:06:34] working [2:06:34] Madam Chair [2:06:35] so [2:06:35] perhaps [2:06:36] while of [2:06:37] course [2:06:38] I think [2:06:38] they are [2:06:40] doing [2:06:40] something [2:06:41] positive [2:06:41] of course [2:06:42] dealing [2:06:43] with the [2:06:43] government [2:06:43] and of [2:06:44] course [2:06:44] attending [2:06:45] the [2:06:45] Senate [2:06:45] hearing [2:06:45] but we [2:06:46] have a [2:06:47] long way [2:06:47] to go [2:06:47] Madam Chair [2:06:48] and I [2:06:49] think [2:06:49] for the [2:06:49] Council [2:06:50] for the [2:06:50] welfare [2:06:50] of [2:06:50] children [2:06:51] it's [2:06:52] let's [2:06:52] go back [2:06:53] to the [2:06:53] basic [2:06:54] a child [2:06:55] safeguarding [2:06:55] and [2:06:56] protection [2:06:56] system [2:06:57] or [2:06:57] protection [2:06:58] policy [2:06:58] to be [2:06:59] implemented [2:06:59] by Roblox [2:07:00] is [2:07:00] fundamental [2:07:01] Madam Chair [2:07:02] so that [2:07:03] Roblox [2:07:03] would understand [2:07:04] that in [2:07:04] the [2:07:04] Philippines [2:07:05] there is [2:07:06] such a [2:07:06] thing as [2:07:06] best interest [2:07:07] of the [2:07:07] child [2:07:07] such a [2:07:09] we have [2:07:10] values [2:07:11] like [2:07:12] protecting [2:07:12] children [2:07:13] we have [2:07:14] constitutional [2:07:14] concepts [2:07:15] like [2:07:15] parents [2:07:16] which is [2:07:17] not [2:07:18] perhaps [2:07:18] available [2:07:19] in other [2:07:19] countries [2:07:20] so before [2:07:21] even [2:07:21] Roblox [2:07:23] even [2:07:23] employing [2:07:24] technology [2:07:25] and other [2:07:26] mechanisms [2:07:27] to make [2:07:27] children [2:07:27] safe [2:07:28] they must [2:07:29] understand [2:07:29] the [2:07:30] Filipino [2:07:30] children [2:07:31] they must [2:07:32] understand [2:07:32] the [2:07:32] Philippines [2:07:33] and when [2:07:33] they understand [2:07:34] that [2:07:35] and when [2:07:35] they have [2:07:36] the [2:07:36] child [2:07:36] safeguarding [2:07:37] protection [2:07:37] policy [2:07:38] everything [2:07:38] flows [2:07:38] from there [2:07:39] Madam Chair [2:07:39] thank you [2:07:40] thank you [2:07:41] you [2:07:41] Roblox [2:07:43] I hope [2:07:43] you [2:07:43] were [2:07:44] listening [2:07:44] and [2:07:45] took [2:07:46] note [2:07:46] of that [2:07:47] we would [2:07:49] really doubly [2:07:50] appreciate [2:07:50] the data [2:07:51] that you [2:07:52] will be [2:07:52] submitting [2:07:52] also for [2:07:53] the [2:07:53] consideration [2:07:54] of all [2:07:55] the stakeholders [2:07:56] around the [2:07:57] table [2:07:57] and to [2:07:58] guide [2:07:58] the [2:07:59] committee [2:07:59] in crafting [2:08:00] our [2:08:00] legislation [2:08:01] I wonder [2:08:02] also if [2:08:03] your [2:08:03] coordination [2:08:05] so far [2:08:06] with the [2:08:06] ICT [2:08:07] and CICC [2:08:07] was a [2:08:08] one-off [2:08:08] with that [2:08:09] meeting [2:08:09] or if [2:08:10] that's [2:08:10] moving [2:08:10] towards [2:08:11] institutionalization [2:08:13] and of [2:08:14] course [2:08:14] what [2:08:15] you said [2:08:15] cannot be [2:08:17] overemphasized [2:08:18] that it's [2:08:19] really a [2:08:19] fundamental [2:08:20] duty [2:08:21] of Roblox [2:08:23] which even [2:08:24] looks like [2:08:24] it's mainly [2:08:25] targeting [2:08:26] children [2:08:27] as its [2:08:27] players [2:08:28] or users [2:08:28] to create [2:08:30] a safer [2:08:31] environment [2:08:32] thank you [2:08:33] Yusek [2:08:33] Tapales [2:08:34] could we [2:08:34] hear from [2:08:35] Terlesom [2:08:36] also [2:08:36] what [2:08:36] our [2:08:37] NGOs [2:08:38] perspectives [2:08:38] are [2:08:39] on [2:08:40] what [2:08:41] should [2:08:41] be [2:08:41] done [2:08:41] to [2:08:42] make [2:08:42] platforms [2:08:43] like [2:08:43] Roblox [2:08:44] and others [2:08:45] truly [2:08:45] safe [2:08:45] for [2:08:45] children [2:08:46] Good afternoon [2:08:47] po [2:08:47] I'm here [2:08:48] for [2:08:48] Terlesom [2:08:49] Netherlands [2:08:49] and also [2:08:50] for [2:08:50] the [2:08:50] Child Rights [2:08:51] Network [2:08:51] it's [2:08:52] the [2:08:52] largest [2:08:52] alliance [2:08:53] of [2:08:53] child [2:08:54] protection [2:08:54] NGOs [2:08:54] in the [2:08:55] Philippines [2:08:55] children [2:08:58] have [2:08:58] rights [2:08:59] in [2:08:59] the [2:08:59] digital [2:08:59] age [2:09:00] and [2:09:01] these [2:09:01] rights [2:09:02] do [2:09:02] not [2:09:02] disappear [2:09:02] simply [2:09:03] because [2:09:03] the [2:09:03] online [2:09:03] environment [2:09:04] carries [2:09:04] risks [2:09:05] so [2:09:05] meron [2:09:06] po [2:09:06] kaming [2:09:06] specific [2:09:07] recommendations [2:09:07] that [2:09:08] Roblox [2:09:09] might [2:09:09] consider [2:09:09] know [2:09:10] na po [2:09:10] yung [2:09:11] age [2:09:12] verification [2:09:13] systems [2:09:13] na [2:09:13] discussed [2:09:14] na po [2:09:14] kanina [2:09:14] pero [2:09:15] siguro [2:09:15] mas maganda [2:09:16] pong [2:09:16] tingnan [2:09:17] din yung [2:09:17] combination [2:09:18] ng age [2:09:19] verification [2:09:19] via [2:09:20] ids [2:09:20] and [2:09:21] i-combine [2:09:22] siya [2:09:22] with age [2:09:22] estimation [2:09:23] so [2:09:23] mas [2:09:23] accurate [2:09:24] maganda [2:09:27] rin [2:09:27] po [2:09:27] sana [2:09:27] kung [2:09:27] yung [2:09:27] systems [2:09:28] must [2:09:28] be [2:09:28] transparent [2:09:29] and [2:09:29] explained [2:09:30] in [2:09:30] clear [2:09:30] child [2:09:31] para [2:09:32] yung [2:09:32] mga [2:09:32] bata [2:09:33] can [2:09:33] truly [2:09:33] understand [2:09:34] what [2:09:34] they [2:09:34] are [2:09:34] consenting [2:09:35] to [2:09:35] narecommend [2:09:36] din po [2:09:36] namin [2:09:37] yung [2:09:37] increased [2:09:38] frequency [2:09:39] ng [2:09:39] reverification [2:09:40] para [2:09:41] yung [2:09:42] pagbebenta [2:09:43] yung [2:09:45] mga [2:09:45] faces [2:09:45] yung [2:09:46] mga [2:09:46] ma-overcome [2:09:49] natin [2:09:49] and then [2:09:49] siguro [2:09:50] kasi [2:09:50] siguro [2:09:50] dun sa [2:09:51] age [2:09:52] verification [2:09:53] baka [2:09:53] we are [2:09:54] assuming [2:09:54] that [2:09:55] children [2:09:55] have [2:09:55] their [2:09:55] own [2:09:55] devices [2:09:56] marami [2:09:57] pong [2:09:57] bata [2:09:57] from [2:09:57] low-income [2:09:58] households [2:09:59] have [2:09:59] shared [2:09:59] gadgets [2:10:00] sibling [2:10:00] share [2:10:01] phones [2:10:02] so [2:10:03] minsan [2:10:03] po [2:10:03] yung [2:10:04] 8 years [2:10:05] old [2:10:05] and [2:10:05] below [2:10:06] minsan [2:10:06] nagsishare [2:10:07] siya [2:10:07] dun sa [2:10:07] kapatid [2:10:08] niya [2:10:08] na mas [2:10:08] matanda [2:10:09] sa [2:10:09] kanya [2:10:09] so [2:10:10] baka [2:10:10] minsan [2:10:10] moot [2:10:11] point [2:10:11] yung [2:10:12] pag [2:10:12] disable [2:10:13] chat [2:10:14] chat [2:10:14] sa [2:10:14] 8 [2:10:14] years [2:10:14] old [2:10:15] and [2:10:15] below [2:10:15] kung [2:10:15] hindi [2:10:15] mo [2:10:15] rin [2:10:16] naman [2:10:16] titignan [2:10:16] yung [2:10:16] mas [2:10:17] matandang [2:10:17] mga [2:10:18] bata [2:10:18] maganda [2:10:21] rin [2:10:21] po [2:10:21] tingnan [2:10:22] na [2:10:22] yung [2:10:23] mga [2:10:23] data [2:10:23] they [2:10:23] also [2:10:23] access [2:10:24] through [2:10:25] Tison [2:10:25] and [2:10:25] wifi [2:10:25] so [2:10:26] marami [2:10:26] dun [2:10:27] unsupervised [2:10:27] access [2:10:28] how [2:10:29] will [2:10:29] I guess [2:10:30] roblox [2:10:31] and [2:10:31] the [2:10:32] government [2:10:32] also [2:10:32] address [2:10:33] that [2:10:33] magandang [2:10:35] tingnan [2:10:35] po [2:10:35] ano [2:10:35] yung [2:10:36] role [2:10:36] ng [2:10:36] schools [2:10:36] and [2:10:36] communities [2:10:37] sa [2:10:38] dito [2:10:38] para [2:10:39] yung [2:10:40] protection [2:10:40] hindi [2:10:40] lang [2:10:40] po [2:10:41] siya [2:10:41] nakadepende [2:10:42] on [2:10:42] whether [2:10:42] parents [2:10:43] are [2:10:43] digitally [2:10:43] literate [2:10:44] or [2:10:45] present [2:10:45] magandang [2:10:47] tingnan [2:10:47] din po [2:10:47] kasi [2:10:47] sa [2:10:48] experience [2:10:48] namin [2:10:49] children [2:10:50] report [2:10:50] abuses [2:10:52] to [2:10:52] peers [2:10:52] more [2:10:53] than [2:10:53] siguro [2:10:53] magre-report [2:10:54] sila [2:10:54] sa [2:10:55] platforms [2:10:55] or [2:10:55] inireport [2:10:56] nila [2:10:57] to [2:10:57] sa [2:10:57] trusted [2:10:57] adults [2:10:58] so [2:10:58] paano [2:10:58] sasampa [2:10:59] yung [2:11:00] informal [2:11:00] reporting [2:11:01] mechanism [2:11:01] dun [2:11:02] sa [2:11:02] formal [2:11:02] reporting [2:11:03] mechanisms [2:11:03] that [2:11:03] we [2:11:04] have [2:11:04] right [2:11:04] now [2:11:05] pag [2:11:06] dating [2:11:06] po [2:11:07] sa [2:11:07] communication [2:11:07] and [2:11:08] reporting [2:11:08] features [2:11:09] meron pong [2:11:11] tinatawag [2:11:11] na [2:11:12] trusted [2:11:12] connections [2:11:13] sa [2:11:13] Roblox [2:11:13] yung mga [2:11:14] anak [2:11:14] kung may [2:11:14] ganito [2:11:14] so [2:11:15] if you're [2:11:16] 9 years [2:11:17] old [2:11:17] and above [2:11:18] so [2:11:18] you have [2:11:19] to [2:11:19] the parent [2:11:20] has to [2:11:21] approve [2:11:22] yung [2:11:22] trusted [2:11:22] connection [2:11:23] but [2:11:24] also [2:11:25] for [2:11:25] 9 years [2:11:25] old [2:11:26] and above [2:11:26] kapag [2:11:27] consent [2:11:27] pag binigay [2:11:28] ng bata [2:11:28] yung [2:11:28] consent [2:11:29] and yung [2:11:30] kausap [2:11:30] niya [2:11:30] binigay [2:11:31] din yung [2:11:31] consent [2:11:31] that's [2:11:32] also [2:11:32] considered [2:11:32] a [2:11:33] trusted [2:11:33] connection [2:11:33] so [2:11:34] nababay [2:11:34] pass [2:11:34] na [2:11:35] yung [2:11:35] parents [2:11:35] so [2:11:36] ang [2:11:36] recommendation [2:11:36] po [2:11:37] namin [2:11:37] either [2:11:38] enable [2:11:39] trusted [2:11:39] connection [2:11:40] between [2:11:40] adults [2:11:41] and [2:11:41] minors [2:11:41] only [2:11:42] through [2:11:42] parental [2:11:43] consent [2:11:43] or [2:11:44] remove [2:11:44] this [2:11:44] communication [2:11:45] feature [2:11:45] altogether [2:11:46] reporting [2:11:48] mechanisms [2:11:48] simple [2:11:49] accessible [2:11:49] and [2:11:50] child [2:11:50] friendly [2:11:50] so [2:11:51] children [2:11:52] can [2:11:52] feel [2:11:52] safe [2:11:52] to [2:11:53] report [2:11:53] harmful [2:11:53] behavior [2:11:54] Pagdating [2:11:55] po [2:11:55] parental [2:11:56] consent [2:11:56] and [2:11:56] oversight [2:11:57] you [2:11:59] can sign [2:12:00] up [2:12:00] kasi [2:12:00] kahit [2:12:00] walang [2:12:00] email [2:12:01] so [2:12:02] baka [2:12:02] magandang [2:12:02] tingnan [2:12:03] din yung [2:12:03] area [2:12:05] na yun [2:12:05] so [2:12:07] for [2:12:09] our [2:12:10] side [2:12:10] so [2:12:10] government [2:12:10] side [2:12:11] and for [2:12:11] the [2:12:11] civil [2:12:11] society [2:12:12] sector [2:12:12] side [2:12:13] magandang [2:12:13] talakasin [2:12:15] yung [2:12:15] atas [2:12:15] ng [2:12:15] kaalaman [2:12:16] ng [2:12:16] mga [2:12:16] magulang [2:12:17] at [2:12:17] ng [2:12:17] schools [2:12:18] in [2:12:18] addressing [2:12:18] and [2:12:19] also [2:12:20] in spotting [2:12:20] red [2:12:21] flags [2:12:21] in terms [2:12:22] of [2:12:22] content [2:12:23] moderation [2:12:23] system [2:12:24] as far [2:12:24] as [2:12:24] we [2:12:24] know [2:12:25] parang [2:12:25] wala [2:12:25] kong [2:12:26] human [2:12:26] moderators [2:12:27] maganda [2:12:28] kong [2:12:28] tingnan [2:12:29] din yung [2:12:29] magkaroon [2:12:31] ng [2:12:31] well-trained [2:12:32] human [2:12:32] moderators [2:12:33] and [2:12:36] also [2:12:36] yung [2:12:36] moderation [2:12:37] system [2:12:37] must be [2:12:38] able [2:12:38] to detect [2:12:38] behavioral [2:12:39] patterns [2:12:39] para [2:12:40] consistent [2:12:41] siya [2:12:42] dun sa [2:12:42] age [2:12:42] reverification [2:12:43] also [2:12:45] yun [2:12:46] yung [2:12:46] coordination [2:12:47] po [2:12:47] between [2:12:48] gaming [2:12:48] platforms [2:12:49] the [2:12:49] enforcement [2:12:49] and [2:12:50] government [2:12:50] agencies [2:12:51] when [2:12:53] you [2:12:53] remove [2:12:53] roadblocks [2:12:54] in [2:12:54] the [2:12:54] equation [2:12:54] papasok [2:12:55] pa rin [2:12:55] yung [2:12:55] ibang [2:12:55] online [2:12:56] things [2:12:57] so [2:12:57] if [2:12:57] you [2:12:58] just [2:12:58] target [2:12:59] one [2:12:59] thing [2:13:00] hindi [2:13:00] nga [2:13:00] ma-address [2:13:01] yung [2:13:01] kabuhang [2:13:01] problema [2:13:01] natin [2:13:02] and [2:13:03] also [2:13:03] siguro [2:13:04] finally [2:13:04] for us [2:13:05] yung [2:13:05] recognize [2:13:05] that [2:13:06] children [2:13:06] are not [2:13:07] just [2:13:07] users [2:13:08] to be [2:13:08] protected [2:13:08] but [2:13:09] as [2:13:09] stakeholders [2:13:09] to be [2:13:10] heard [2:13:10] maganda [2:13:10] maganda [2:13:11] rin [2:13:11] magkaroon [2:13:12] ng [2:13:12] consultation [2:13:12] sa [2:13:13] mga [2:13:13] kabataan [2:13:14] at [2:13:14] ano [2:13:14] yung [2:13:14] kanilang [2:13:15] insights [2:13:15] on [2:13:16] this [2:13:17] proposed [2:13:19] ban [2:13:20] so [2:13:21] yung [2:13:21] po [2:13:21] we [2:13:21] encourage [2:13:22] you [2:13:22] to resist [2:13:22] the urge [2:13:22] for [2:13:23] sweeping [2:13:23] bans [2:13:23] that [2:13:24] intentionally [2:13:24] silence [2:13:25] isolate [2:13:26] or exclude [2:13:27] children [2:13:27] from the [2:13:27] very [2:13:28] spaces [2:13:28] that [2:13:28] shape [2:13:28] the [2:13:29] future [2:13:29] that [2:13:29] they [2:13:29] will [2:13:29] inherit [2:13:30] thank [2:13:32] you [2:13:33] so [2:13:33] much [2:13:33] miss [2:13:34] joana [2:13:35] also [2:13:35] for [2:13:36] bringing [2:13:36] in [2:13:36] that [2:13:36] perspective [2:13:38] yes [2:13:38] i'll [2:13:39] be [2:13:39] calling [2:13:39] you [2:13:39] next [2:13:39] are [2:13:40] you [2:13:40] you [2:13:40] want [2:13:40] to [2:13:41] jump [2:13:41] in [2:13:41] to [2:13:41] the [2:13:41] discussion [2:13:42] yes [2:13:43] sir [2:13:44] just [2:13:44] briefly [2:13:45] for [2:13:46] for [2:13:48] articulating [2:13:48] that [2:13:48] perspective [2:13:49] which [2:13:50] is [2:13:50] the [2:13:51] heart [2:13:51] also [2:13:52] of [2:13:52] the [2:13:52] committee [2:13:52] on [2:13:52] women [2:13:53] and [2:13:53] children [2:13:53] children [2:13:54] as [2:13:54] stakeholders [2:13:54] who [2:13:55] must [2:13:56] be [2:13:56] heard [2:13:56] in [2:13:56] all [2:13:56] these [2:13:57] I [2:13:57] hope [2:13:57] Roblox [2:13:58] from [2:13:58] what [2:13:59] you [2:13:59] were [2:13:59] able [2:13:59] to [2:14:00] understand [2:14:00] of [2:14:01] the [2:14:01] input [2:14:02] there [2:14:03] was [2:14:03] a [2:14:03] lot [2:14:04] of [2:14:04] valuable [2:14:04] input [2:14:05] here [2:14:05] also [2:14:07] in [2:14:07] the [2:14:08] Filipino [2:14:08] language [2:14:08] and [2:14:09] we'll [2:14:09] be [2:14:09] forwarding [2:14:11] you [2:14:11] that [2:14:12] ways [2:14:12] that [2:14:13] even [2:14:14] your [2:14:14] existing [2:14:15] and [2:14:15] probably [2:14:16] newly [2:14:16] announced [2:14:17] protocols [2:14:17] must [2:14:19] be [2:14:19] aware [2:14:19] of [2:14:20] that [2:14:20] the [2:14:21] system [2:14:21] could [2:14:21] be [2:14:22] intentionally [2:14:23] or [2:14:23] unintentionally [2:14:24] bypassed [2:14:26] also [2:14:26] because [2:14:27] of [2:14:27] the [2:14:27] situation [2:14:27] of [2:14:28] users [2:14:28] and [2:14:28] players [2:14:29] here [2:14:30] and [2:14:31] thank [2:14:31] you [2:14:32] also [2:14:32] miss [2:14:32] jo [2:14:32] ana [2:14:33] for [2:14:33] reminding [2:14:34] me [2:14:34] also [2:14:34] something [2:14:35] that [2:14:36] you [2:14:36] said [2:14:36] the [2:14:36] palace [2:14:36] mentioned [2:14:37] that [2:14:37] I [2:14:37] hope [2:14:37] roblox [2:14:38] picked [2:14:38] up [2:14:39] that [2:14:39] even [2:14:39] that [2:14:40] disabling [2:14:40] of [2:14:40] chats [2:14:41] may [2:14:41] be [2:14:41] something [2:14:42] to be [2:14:42] considered [2:14:43] even [2:14:43] for [2:14:43] older [2:14:44] age [2:14:45] groups [2:14:46] for [2:14:47] the [2:14:47] reasons [2:14:47] cited [2:14:48] by [2:14:48] miss [2:14:48] Joanna [2:14:49] and [2:14:49] you [2:14:49] sector [2:14:49] palace [2:14:50] so [2:15:00] ask [2:15:00] please [2:15:01] you [2:15:01] wanted [2:15:01] to [2:15:02] interject [2:15:02] thank [2:15:06] you [2:15:06] man [2:15:06] for [2:15:07] privilege [2:15:08] actually [2:15:10] this [2:15:10] is [2:15:10] not [2:15:11] really [2:15:12] the [2:15:13] related [2:15:13] directly [2:15:14] to [2:15:15] the [2:15:15] roblox [2:15:17] but [2:15:17] however [2:15:17] I [2:15:18] cannot [2:15:18] let [2:15:19] this [2:15:20] privilege [2:15:20] to [2:15:21] pass [2:15:21] without [2:15:22] stating [2:15:24] also [2:15:25] the [2:15:25] reports [2:15:27] of [2:15:28] the [2:15:28] disability [2:15:28] since [2:15:29] the [2:15:30] passage [2:15:31] of [2:15:32] the [2:15:32] USAI [2:15:32] the [2:15:34] disability [2:15:35] initiated [2:15:36] so much [2:15:36] program [2:15:37] and [2:15:37] it [2:15:39] accepted [2:15:39] reports [2:15:40] programs [2:15:41] time [2:15:42] on [2:15:42] how [2:15:43] to [2:15:44] give [2:15:44] place [2:15:45] to [2:15:45] the [2:15:45] law [2:15:45] and [2:15:46] one [2:15:48] of [2:15:49] the [2:15:49] program [2:15:50] is [2:15:50] the [2:15:51] so-called [2:15:53] CIP [2:15:55] which was [2:15:55] which was [2:15:57] conducted [2:15:59] through the [2:16:00] Social Technology [2:16:01] Bureau [2:16:01] of [2:16:01] the [2:16:02] DCWD [2:16:03] we [2:16:05] are [2:16:05] also [2:16:05] closely [2:16:06] coordinating [2:16:07] with [2:16:07] the [2:16:07] CWC [2:16:08] as well [2:16:09] as [2:16:09] the [2:16:09] NAXI [2:16:10] which [2:16:10] are [2:16:11] under [2:16:11] our [2:16:12] supervision [2:16:12] now [2:16:14] the [2:16:14] program [2:16:16] that [2:16:18] was [2:16:18] initiated [2:16:19] is [2:16:20] called [2:16:20] CIP [2:16:20] which [2:16:21] means [2:16:21] support [2:16:23] to [2:16:23] abandon [2:16:24] forgotten [2:16:25] and [2:16:25] exploited [2:16:26] children [2:16:26] in the [2:16:27] USAI [2:16:27] this [2:16:34] is [2:16:34] a [2:16:34] holistic [2:16:35] model [2:16:35] of [2:16:36] intervention [2:16:36] that [2:16:37] aims [2:16:38] to [2:16:38] strengthen [2:16:38] the [2:16:39] preventive [2:16:39] and [2:16:40] protective [2:16:40] mechanism [2:16:41] for [2:16:42] the [2:16:42] recovery [2:16:43] and [2:16:43] integration [2:16:44] of [2:16:44] children [2:16:45] victims [2:16:46] of [2:16:48] online [2:16:48] sexual [2:16:49] abuse [2:16:49] and [2:16:50] exploitation [2:16:50] of [2:16:51] children [2:16:51] and [2:16:53] prevent [2:16:53] the [2:16:54] risk [2:16:54] of [2:16:54] re-victimization [2:16:57] specifically [2:16:58] it [2:16:59] aims [2:16:59] to [2:17:01] capacitate [2:17:03] children [2:17:03] parents [2:17:04] or [2:17:05] guardians [2:17:06] on [2:17:06] safe [2:17:06] responsible [2:17:07] use [2:17:07] of [2:17:08] technology [2:17:08] improve [2:17:10] reporting [2:17:11] case [2:17:12] management [2:17:12] and [2:17:13] repair [2:17:13] system [2:17:14] of [2:17:15] OSAIC [2:17:15] facilitated [2:17:16] healing [2:17:17] of [2:17:17] children [2:17:18] victim [2:17:18] survivors [2:17:19] of [2:17:19] OSAIC [2:17:20] and [2:17:20] families [2:17:20] and [2:17:21] ensure [2:17:22] safe [2:17:23] reintegration [2:17:24] of [2:17:24] OSAIC [2:17:25] and [2:17:25] OSAIM [2:17:26] victim [2:17:27] survivors [2:17:28] to [2:17:29] their [2:17:29] family [2:17:29] and [2:17:30] community [2:17:30] as [2:17:32] part [2:17:32] of [2:17:32] the [2:17:32] project [2:17:33] inception [2:17:34] the [2:17:35] disability [2:17:36] established [2:17:36] strategic [2:17:37] partnership [2:17:38] with [2:17:39] key [2:17:39] organizations [2:17:40] and [2:17:41] agencies [2:17:41] to [2:17:42] develop [2:17:42] and [2:17:43] enhance [2:17:44] essential [2:17:44] tools [2:17:45] and [2:17:45] training [2:17:46] materials [2:17:46] in [2:17:47] collaboration [2:17:48] with [2:17:48] international [2:17:49] justice [2:17:49] mission [2:17:50] Philippines [2:17:50] consuelo [2:17:52] so [2:17:52] will [2:17:52] their [2:17:53] foundation [2:17:54] achieve [2:17:54] the [2:17:55] children [2:17:55] Philippines [2:17:56] suit [2:17:57] modules [2:17:58] was [2:17:59] developed [2:17:59] and [2:18:00] refined [2:18:00] including [2:18:01] the [2:18:01] family [2:18:01] framework [2:18:02] engagement [2:18:02] child [2:18:04] online [2:18:04] protection [2:18:05] COP [2:18:06] digital [2:18:06] parenting [2:18:07] literacy [2:18:08] and [2:18:10] family [2:18:10] healing [2:18:11] and [2:18:13] we [2:18:13] also [2:18:14] the [2:18:14] disability [2:18:15] with [2:18:17] different [2:18:18] LGUs [2:18:20] in [2:18:20] different [2:18:20] parts [2:18:20] of [2:18:21] the [2:18:21] countries [2:18:21] precisely [2:18:22] to [2:18:23] give [2:18:24] to [2:18:25] the [2:18:25] OSAIC [2:18:26] law [2:18:26] so [2:18:27] this [2:18:28] will [2:18:28] be [2:18:28] rendered [2:18:29] mandatory [2:18:29] unless [2:18:30] the [2:18:30] roadblocks [2:18:33] is [2:18:33] properly [2:18:34] addressed [2:18:34] so we [2:18:35] fully [2:18:36] support [2:18:36] the [2:18:37] investigation [2:18:37] that [2:18:38] somehow [2:18:39] would [2:18:39] help [2:18:40] enhance [2:18:41] the [2:18:42] existing [2:18:42] program [2:18:43] of [2:18:43] the [2:18:44] Department [2:18:45] of [2:18:45] Justice [2:18:45] that's [2:18:47] all [2:18:47] Madam [2:18:48] Chairman [2:18:48] Salamat [2:18:51] po [2:18:51] Assistant [2:18:51] Secretary [2:18:52] Sigurado [2:18:53] yung [2:18:53] mga [2:18:53] lessons [2:18:54] natin [2:18:54] and [2:18:55] the [2:18:55] better [2:18:56] models [2:18:58] or best [2:18:58] practices [2:18:59] we've [2:18:59] developed [2:19:00] combating [2:19:00] OSAIC [2:19:01] and CSAEM [2:19:02] makakagabay [2:19:03] din [2:19:03] satin [2:19:04] how to [2:19:04] address [2:19:04] children [2:19:05] who are [2:19:05] harmed [2:19:06] on [2:19:07] online [2:19:07] gaming [2:19:07] platforms [2:19:08] in the [2:19:08] same [2:19:08] way [2:19:09] mga [2:19:09] learnings [2:19:09] natin [2:19:10] combating [2:19:11] cyber [2:19:11] scams [2:19:12] na [2:19:12] binanggit [2:19:12] ng [2:19:12] smart [2:19:13] kanina [2:19:13] also [2:19:14] contribute [2:19:14] to [2:19:15] our [2:19:15] work [2:19:15] in [2:19:15] preventing [2:19:16] harms [2:19:16] sa [2:19:17] digital [2:19:17] space [2:19:18] so [2:19:19] salamat [2:19:20] po [2:19:20] could [2:19:22] I [2:19:22] have [2:19:24] an [2:19:25] input [2:19:25] from [2:19:25] one [2:19:26] of [2:19:26] our [2:19:26] resource [2:19:27] persons [2:19:28] one [2:19:28] of [2:19:28] our [2:19:29] young [2:19:30] resource [2:19:30] persons [2:19:30] but [2:19:31] could [2:19:32] I [2:19:32] please [2:19:32] also [2:19:32] ask [2:19:33] TNT [2:19:34] ACG [2:19:35] Colonel [2:19:35] Desiderio [2:19:36] yung [2:19:36] ibang [2:19:37] mga [2:19:37] kaso [2:19:37] dahil [2:19:38] kanina [2:19:39] po binanggit [2:19:39] niyo [2:19:39] yung [2:19:40] nakakasyak [2:19:40] na [2:19:40] may [2:19:41] suicide [2:19:42] po [2:19:42] yes [2:19:44] ma'am [2:19:44] dun sa [2:19:46] I have [2:19:46] mentioned [2:19:46] yung mga [2:19:47] cases [2:19:47] ma'am [2:19:48] the first [2:19:49] case [2:19:50] we have [2:19:51] encountered [2:19:52] ma'am [2:19:53] happened [2:19:53] last year [2:19:54] actually [2:19:55] last October [2:19:56] 2025 [2:19:58] so [2:19:59] it [2:19:59] happened [2:20:00] at [2:20:00] marikina [2:20:00] so [2:20:02] nagapan [2:20:03] to [2:20:03] mama [2:20:04] supposed [2:20:05] to [2:20:05] be [2:20:06] he [2:20:07] was [2:20:07] induced [2:20:09] to [2:20:09] conduct [2:20:10] potential [2:20:11] mass [2:20:11] shooting [2:20:11] but [2:20:13] it [2:20:14] was [2:20:15] one [2:20:16] of [2:20:16] black [2:20:17] and [2:20:17] rescue [2:20:19] operation [2:20:19] conducted [2:20:20] by [2:20:20] ACG [2:20:20] one [2:20:22] case [2:20:22] happened [2:20:23] last year [2:20:25] also [2:20:25] October [2:20:25] 21 [2:20:26] of [2:20:26] 2025 [2:20:27] this [2:20:28] involved [2:20:28] a grade [2:20:29] 10 [2:20:29] student [2:20:29] in [2:20:31] Marikina [2:20:32] City [2:20:32] so [2:20:33] this [2:20:34] victim [2:20:34] took his [2:20:35] grandfather [2:20:36] license [2:20:36] firearm [2:20:37] without [2:20:37] permission [2:20:38] so [2:20:39] he [2:20:39] pointed [2:20:40] the [2:20:40] firearm [2:20:41] to his [2:20:41] classmate [2:20:42] and [2:20:42] himself [2:20:43] while [2:20:43] joking [2:20:43] then [2:20:44] the [2:20:45] said [2:20:46] firearm [2:20:46] so [2:20:46] the [2:20:47] victim [2:20:47] later [2:20:48] died [2:20:48] at the [2:20:48] hospital [2:20:49] so [2:20:51] nakita [2:20:52] natin [2:20:52] sir [2:20:52] when we [2:20:54] checked [2:20:54] the [2:20:55] cellphones [2:20:57] and [2:20:57] other [2:20:57] gadgets [2:20:58] of this [2:20:58] victim [2:20:59] so [2:20:59] that [2:21:01] he [2:21:01] was [2:21:02] possibly [2:21:03] influenced [2:21:04] by this [2:21:05] violent [2:21:07] extremism [2:21:07] other [2:21:08] case [2:21:09] we [2:21:10] had [2:21:10] yung [2:21:11] grade 12 [2:21:11] student [2:21:12] naman [2:21:12] in [2:21:12] Batangas [2:21:13] so [2:21:15] it [2:21:15] happened [2:21:16] only [2:21:16] this [2:21:17] year [2:21:17] of [2:21:17] February [2:21:18] 5 [2:21:18] 2026 [2:21:20] so [2:21:21] he [2:21:21] brought [2:21:21] a [2:21:22] caliber [2:21:22] 45 [2:21:23] par [2:21:23] arms [2:21:23] to [2:21:24] his [2:21:24] school [2:21:24] and [2:21:26] yung [2:21:28] incident [2:21:28] reported [2:21:28] by his [2:21:29] classmate [2:21:31] then [2:21:31] he [2:21:31] drew [2:21:31] the [2:21:32] gun [2:21:32] then [2:21:32] fired [2:21:33] twice [2:21:33] at [2:21:33] the [2:21:33] classroom [2:21:34] floor [2:21:35] then [2:21:35] shot [2:21:36] himself [2:21:36] despite [2:21:37] intervention [2:21:38] attempts [2:21:38] so [2:21:39] he [2:21:39] later [2:21:39] died [2:21:40] in [2:21:40] the [2:21:40] hospitals [2:21:40] and [2:21:43] under [2:21:44] investigation [2:21:44] yung motive [2:21:45] and [2:21:45] yun [2:21:46] nga [2:21:46] ma'am [2:21:47] when [2:21:47] we [2:21:47] checking [2:21:48] on his [2:21:51] gadgets [2:21:52] so [2:21:52] andun din [2:21:53] po yung [2:21:53] tracing [2:21:54] na [2:21:55] he was [2:21:56] possibly [2:21:57] nagroom din [2:22:00] to conduct [2:22:01] this incident [2:22:01] pero [2:22:02] the [2:22:03] parent [2:22:04] decided [2:22:04] not to [2:22:05] file [2:22:05] any [2:22:05] case [2:22:06] whatever [2:22:07] so [2:22:08] yun yung [2:22:09] mga [2:22:09] cases [2:22:09] natin [2:22:10] and [2:22:11] ito [2:22:13] naman [2:22:13] sa [2:22:13] kalamba [2:22:13] yung [2:22:14] latest [2:22:14] and [2:22:15] one [2:22:16] is [2:22:16] las [2:22:18] piñas [2:22:18] so [2:22:19] dito [2:22:19] mga [2:22:19] and [2:22:20] negros [2:22:20] occidental [2:22:21] sa [2:22:22] las [2:22:22] piñas [2:22:22] nakakuha tayo [2:22:23] ng [2:22:23] how many [2:22:24] more or less [2:22:27] 20 [2:22:27] replica [2:22:28] of [2:22:28] arms [2:22:29] so [2:22:31] yun yung [2:22:32] mga [2:22:32] information [2:22:33] dito [2:22:34] sa mga [2:22:34] cases [2:22:35] that we [2:22:35] handled [2:22:36] thank you [2:22:37] salamat [2:22:38] din [2:22:38] colonel [2:22:38] so [2:22:38] reiteration [2:22:39] ng [2:22:39] iba't [2:22:40] ibang [2:22:40] klase [2:22:41] at [2:22:41] mga [2:22:41] grabbing [2:22:41] harms [2:22:42] na [2:22:43] dumarating [2:22:44] or [2:22:44] nagagawa [2:22:45] ng [2:22:45] mga [2:22:45] bata [2:22:46] mga [2:22:46] kabataan [2:22:47] sa mga [2:22:47] kapwa [2:22:48] bata [2:22:48] at [2:22:48] sa mga [2:22:49] sarili [2:22:49] nila [2:22:49] na [2:22:50] umaabot [2:22:50] nga [2:22:50] dun [2:22:50] sa [2:22:51] yung [2:22:51] sakdulan [2:22:52] yung [2:22:52] kikikin [2:22:54] yung [2:22:54] sariling [2:22:54] buhay [2:22:54] so [2:22:55] it's [2:22:55] also [2:22:56] related [2:22:57] to [2:22:57] mental [2:22:58] health [2:22:58] and [2:22:59] maybe [2:23:00] the [2:23:00] department [2:23:00] of [2:23:00] health [2:23:01] would [2:23:01] also [2:23:01] like [2:23:02] look [2:23:03] into [2:23:03] this [2:23:03] like [2:23:04] look [2:23:04] into [2:23:04] this [2:23:05] more [2:23:06] purposefully [2:23:06] dahil [2:23:07] nagko [2:23:07] converge [2:23:08] po [2:23:08] yung [2:23:09] iba't [2:23:09] ibang [2:23:10] negative [2:23:11] influences [2:23:11] dito [2:23:12] sa [2:23:13] common [2:23:13] space [2:23:14] ng [2:23:14] internet [2:23:14] supposed [2:23:15] to be [2:23:15] a [2:23:15] space [2:23:16] for [2:23:16] good [2:23:16] pero [2:23:17] sa [2:23:18] iba't [2:23:18] ibang [2:23:18] paraan [2:23:19] ginagawang [2:23:19] scene [2:23:20] of [2:23:20] crimes [2:23:21] thank [2:23:23] you [2:23:23] so [2:23:23] much [2:23:23] and [2:23:24] so [2:23:25] would [2:23:25] DOH [2:23:25] like [2:23:26] to [2:23:26] comment [2:23:26] on [2:23:26] that [2:23:27] department [2:23:27] of [2:23:27] health [2:23:27] ma'am [2:23:32] yes [2:23:33] ma'am [2:23:33] please [2:23:33] come [2:23:33] forward [2:23:34] po [2:23:34] doktora [2:23:34] if you [2:23:46] could [2:23:46] just [2:23:46] make [2:23:46] your [2:23:46] name [2:23:46] again [2:23:47] of [2:23:47] record [2:23:47] yes [2:23:53] good [2:23:53] afternoon [2:23:53] everyone [2:23:54] i am [2:23:55] dr [2:23:55] bernadette [2:23:56] arsena [2:23:57] i am [2:23:57] a psychiatrist [2:23:58] representing [2:23:59] the 700 [2:24:01] psychiatrists [2:24:02] all over [2:24:02] the country [2:24:03] under the [2:24:03] philippine [2:24:04] psychiatric [2:24:05] association [2:24:06] now the [2:24:08] reason why [2:24:08] i wanted [2:24:09] to [2:24:09] speak [2:24:10] in [2:24:10] behalf [2:24:11] of us [2:24:12] mental [2:24:13] health [2:24:13] professionals [2:24:14] is that [2:24:14] i would [2:24:19] always [2:24:19] tell [2:24:20] myself [2:24:20] where [2:24:21] are [2:24:22] the [2:24:23] children [2:24:23] why [2:24:24] are [2:24:24] they [2:24:24] not [2:24:24] playing [2:24:25] why [2:24:25] are [2:24:25] they [2:24:25] not [2:24:26] frolicking [2:24:26] you [2:24:28] see [2:24:28] them [2:24:28] having [2:24:29] their [2:24:30] laptops [2:24:30] ipads [2:24:31] even [2:24:31] di ba [2:24:32] yung [2:24:32] mga [2:24:32] kabataan [2:24:33] kahit [2:24:34] na [2:24:34] hindi [2:24:34] na [2:24:34] binabantay [2:24:35] ng [2:24:35] kanilang [2:24:36] mga [2:24:36] nanoy [2:24:36] yun [2:24:37] nandun [2:24:37] ang [2:24:37] ipod [2:24:38] so [2:24:38] where [2:24:40] have [2:24:40] all [2:24:41] our [2:24:41] parenting [2:24:42] go [2:24:42] each [2:24:44] and [2:24:44] every [2:24:45] one [2:24:45] of [2:24:45] us [2:24:45] here [2:24:45] i [2:24:46] believe [2:24:46] we [2:24:46] have [2:24:46] we [2:24:47] have [2:24:47] our [2:24:48] kamag [2:24:50] anak [2:24:50] mga [2:24:50] anak [2:24:51] no [2:24:51] well [2:24:53] of course [2:24:53] you [2:24:55] but [2:24:56] i [2:24:57] think [2:24:57] we [2:24:57] have [2:24:57] no [2:24:57] choice [2:24:58] but [2:24:58] to [2:24:59] adapt [2:24:59] also [2:24:59] for [2:25:00] us [2:25:01] seniors [2:25:01] and [2:25:01] also [2:25:02] for [2:25:02] the [2:25:02] younger [2:25:03] generation [2:25:03] suicide [2:25:05] rates [2:25:05] are [2:25:05] sad [2:25:07] to [2:25:07] say [2:25:07] getting [2:25:08] higher [2:25:09] and [2:25:10] they [2:25:11] are [2:25:11] getting [2:25:11] younger [2:25:12] slashers [2:25:14] we [2:25:14] call [2:25:15] them [2:25:15] slashers [2:25:15] they [2:25:17] overdosed [2:25:18] because [2:25:19] they [2:25:20] wanted [2:25:20] to [2:25:20] numb [2:25:21] the [2:25:21] pain [2:25:22] now [2:25:24] for [2:25:24] me [2:25:25] we [2:25:25] parents [2:25:26] and [2:25:26] we [2:25:26] older [2:25:26] ones [2:25:27] should [2:25:27] protect [2:25:28] our [2:25:28] children [2:25:29] from [2:25:31] exposure [2:25:31] especially [2:25:33] to [2:25:33] social [2:25:33] media [2:25:34] may [2:25:34] cyber [2:25:35] bullying [2:25:36] because [2:25:39] the [2:25:40] values [2:25:41] anymore [2:25:42] are not [2:25:43] there [2:25:43] so [2:25:44] where [2:25:45] are we [2:25:45] now [2:25:47] so [2:25:48] i would [2:25:48] encourage [2:25:49] since [2:25:49] i am [2:25:50] a member [2:25:50] of [2:25:50] the [2:25:51] committee [2:25:52] on [2:25:52] legislation [2:25:53] and [2:25:53] advocacy [2:25:54] and [2:25:54] also [2:25:55] in [2:25:55] media [2:25:56] at [2:25:56] times [2:25:56] talking [2:25:57] about [2:25:58] suicide [2:25:58] depression [2:25:59] and [2:26:00] dedicating [2:26:01] my [2:26:02] life [2:26:02] to [2:26:02] this [2:26:02] senator [2:26:03] Riza [2:26:04] so [2:26:05] for [2:26:05] me [2:26:05] i [2:26:07] think [2:26:09] this [2:26:09] is [2:26:10] just [2:26:10] the [2:26:10] beginning [2:26:10] of [2:26:11] a [2:26:11] wonderful [2:26:11] collapse [2:26:13] with [2:26:13] everyone [2:26:14] we [2:26:14] the [2:26:14] philippine [2:26:15] psychiatric [2:26:15] association [2:26:16] is [2:26:17] really [2:26:17] very [2:26:17] much [2:26:18] into [2:26:18] this [2:26:18] recently [2:26:20] i [2:26:25] have [2:26:25] patient [2:26:27] who [2:26:27] died [2:26:28] walking [2:26:28] jumping [2:26:30] from [2:26:30] the [2:26:30] third [2:26:31] floor [2:26:31] and [2:26:32] a lot [2:26:32] also [2:26:33] sa mga [2:26:33] condos [2:26:34] so [2:26:34] sana [2:26:35] tayo [2:26:36] the [2:26:37] Roblox [2:26:38] yes [2:26:38] we can [2:26:39] control [2:26:39] that [2:26:39] we [2:26:40] should [2:26:40] be [2:26:41] very [2:26:42] strict [2:26:42] with [2:26:43] age [2:26:44] verification [2:26:44] there [2:26:45] are [2:26:46] some [2:26:46] countries [2:26:46] wala [2:26:47] silang [2:26:47] wifi [2:26:48] hindi [2:26:50] sila [2:26:50] gumagamit [2:26:51] ng [2:26:51] mga [2:26:51] electronics [2:26:52] during [2:26:54] elementary [2:26:54] and [2:26:55] you [2:26:55] know [2:26:56] they [2:26:56] went [2:26:56] into [2:26:57] how [2:26:58] they [2:26:58] call [2:26:59] this [2:26:59] mental [2:26:59] wellness [2:27:00] may [2:27:01] mga [2:27:01] play [2:27:01] sila [2:27:02] may [2:27:02] mga [2:27:02] pahinga [2:27:03] sila [2:27:03] so [2:27:04] for [2:27:04] me [2:27:05] i'm [2:27:06] not so [2:27:06] sure [2:27:07] we are [2:27:07] just [2:27:07] a small [2:27:07] group [2:27:08] with [2:27:08] the [2:27:09] PPA [2:27:09] but [2:27:09] i [2:27:10] hope [2:27:10] that [2:27:11] this [2:27:11] will [2:27:11] be [2:27:11] heard [2:27:11] by [2:27:12] everyone [2:27:12] that [2:27:13] everyone [2:27:14] has a [2:27:14] role [2:27:15] hindi [2:27:15] lang [2:27:15] parents [2:27:16] hindi [2:27:16] lang [2:27:17] government [2:27:18] officials [2:27:18] hindi [2:27:19] lang [2:27:19] administration [2:27:20] every [2:27:21] one [2:27:21] of [2:27:21] us [2:27:22] said [2:27:22] to [2:27:22] do [2:27:23] this [2:27:23] now [2:27:24] we [2:27:24] cannot [2:27:25] just [2:27:25] afford [2:27:25] children [2:27:26] dying [2:27:27] and [2:27:28] we [2:27:28] accepting [2:27:29] suicidal [2:27:29] patients [2:27:30] every [2:27:30] now [2:27:30] and [2:27:31] then [2:27:31] and [2:27:31] in [2:27:32] one [2:27:33] clinic [2:27:34] time [2:27:34] that [2:27:35] i [2:27:35] have [2:27:35] almost [2:27:36] 20% [2:27:37] are [2:27:37] suicidal [2:27:38] so [2:27:39] please [2:27:39] help [2:27:40] us [2:27:40] also [2:27:40] and [2:27:41] we [2:27:41] are [2:27:41] gladly [2:27:42] here [2:27:42] and [2:27:43] i [2:27:43] want [2:27:44] our [2:27:44] voice [2:27:44] of [2:27:44] the [2:27:44] PPA [2:27:45] to [2:27:45] be [2:27:45] heard [2:27:46] that [2:27:47] we [2:27:47] would [2:27:47] not [2:27:48] like [2:27:48] our [2:27:48] children [2:27:49] to [2:27:49] die [2:27:49] desperately [2:27:50] we [2:27:51] have [2:27:51] to [2:27:52] control [2:27:52] the [2:27:53] social [2:27:53] media [2:27:54] let's [2:27:54] prevent [2:27:55] cyber [2:27:55] bullying [2:27:56] let's [2:27:57] be [2:27:57] parents [2:27:57] again [2:27:58] let's [2:27:58] give [2:27:58] love [2:27:59] and [2:27:59] care [2:27:59] i [2:27:59] think [2:28:00] that's [2:28:00] all [2:28:00] that [2:28:00] i [2:28:00] can [2:28:01] give [2:28:01] salamat [2:28:01] po [2:28:01] marami [2:28:04] salamat [2:28:04] din po [2:28:05] dr. [2:28:05] arsena [2:28:06] for [2:28:07] everything [2:28:07] that [2:28:07] you [2:28:08] have [2:28:08] shared [2:28:08] and [2:28:08] also [2:28:09] yung [2:28:09] offer [2:28:10] of [2:28:10] assistance [2:28:10] ninyo [2:28:11] hindi [2:28:12] lang [2:28:12] sa [2:28:12] comite [2:28:12] but [2:28:13] all [2:28:13] the [2:28:14] stakeholders [2:28:14] around [2:28:14] the [2:28:15] table [2:28:15] for [2:28:16] us [2:28:17] parents [2:28:17] for [2:28:17] our [2:28:18] children [2:28:18] and [2:28:19] gaya [2:28:19] nang [2:28:19] sinabi [2:28:20] ko [2:28:20] po [2:28:20] sa [2:28:20] simula [2:28:20] dear [2:28:21] colleagues [2:28:21] of [2:28:22] course [2:28:23] this [2:28:23] big [2:28:25] work [2:28:25] must [2:28:26] not [2:28:26] rest [2:28:26] alone [2:28:27] on [2:28:27] the [2:28:27] shoulders [2:28:28] of [2:28:28] parents [2:28:29] and [2:28:29] children [2:28:29] kaya [2:28:30] salamat [2:28:31] sa [2:28:31] paglahok [2:28:32] ng [2:28:32] lahat [2:28:32] sa [2:28:32] hearing [2:28:33] because [2:28:33] we [2:28:33] really [2:28:33] need [2:28:34] all [2:28:34] the [2:28:35] government [2:28:36] stakeholders [2:28:36] and [2:28:37] the [2:28:37] private [2:28:37] sector [2:28:38] as [2:28:38] well [2:28:38] to [2:28:39] work [2:28:40] together [2:28:40] and [2:28:40] three [2:28:41] point [2:28:41] natin [2:28:41] itong [2:28:42] paano [2:28:42] natin [2:28:42] regulate [2:28:43] ang [2:28:43] roadblock [2:28:44] sa [2:28:44] Pilipinas [2:28:44] and [2:28:45] we [2:28:46] will [2:28:46] be [2:28:46] very [2:28:47] strict [2:28:49] about [2:28:49] this [2:28:49] in [2:28:50] our [2:28:50] legislative [2:28:50] work [2:28:50] and [2:28:51] we [2:28:51] will [2:28:51] expect [2:28:52] the [2:28:52] executive [2:28:52] to [2:28:53] continue [2:28:53] to [2:28:53] be [2:28:53] strict [2:28:54] also [2:28:54] sa [2:28:54] implementation [2:28:55] relying [2:28:57] on [2:28:57] the [2:28:57] private [2:28:57] sector [2:28:57] as [2:28:58] partners [2:28:58] knowing [2:28:59] families [2:29:01] parents [2:29:02] and [2:29:02] children [2:29:02] in [2:29:02] the [2:29:03] end [2:29:03] are [2:29:03] major [2:29:04] participants [2:29:05] that [2:29:06] we're [2:29:08] trying [2:29:08] to [2:29:08] shape [2:29:09] and [2:29:10] speaking [2:29:10] of [2:29:11] children [2:29:11] according [2:29:13] to [2:29:13] one [2:29:13] resource [2:29:13] person [2:29:14] of [2:29:14] the [2:29:14] committee [2:29:15] and [2:29:16] this [2:29:16] is [2:29:16] about [2:29:16] the [2:29:17] reporting [2:29:17] mechanisms [2:29:18] that [2:29:18] I [2:29:18] was [2:29:18] asking [2:29:19] Roblox [2:29:20] about [2:29:20] earlier [2:29:20] and [2:29:20] that [2:29:21] our [2:29:21] NGOs [2:29:21] were [2:29:22] also [2:29:22] weighing [2:29:23] in [2:29:23] on [2:29:23] according [2:29:24] to [2:29:24] our [2:29:25] resource [2:29:25] person [2:29:25] after [2:29:26] reporting [2:29:26] a [2:29:27] user [2:29:27] he [2:29:28] never [2:29:28] saw [2:29:28] the [2:29:28] user [2:29:29] again [2:29:29] okay [2:29:30] but [2:29:30] is [2:29:31] the [2:29:31] user [2:29:32] does [2:29:32] that [2:29:32] mean [2:29:32] that [2:29:33] the [2:29:33] user [2:29:33] was [2:29:33] banned [2:29:34] or [2:29:35] that [2:29:35] user [2:29:35] was [2:29:36] just [2:29:36] blocked [2:29:37] from [2:29:37] accessing [2:29:38] the [2:29:39] reporting [2:29:40] could [2:29:41] Roblox [2:29:43] speak [2:29:43] to that [2:29:44] oh [2:29:47] have [2:29:47] they [2:29:47] left [2:29:47] too [2:29:49] early [2:29:49] okay [2:29:50] we will [2:29:51] communicate [2:29:51] with them [2:29:51] in writing [2:29:52] would [2:29:53] the [2:29:53] CICC [2:29:54] know [2:29:55] kapag [2:29:56] di [2:29:57] na nakita [2:29:57] ng isang [2:29:58] batang [2:29:59] player [2:29:59] isang [2:29:59] user [2:30:00] na [2:30:00] nireport [2:30:00] niya [2:30:01] ibig [2:30:02] bang [2:30:02] sabihin [2:30:02] na [2:30:02] ban [2:30:03] lang [2:30:03] yun [2:30:03] or [2:30:03] talagang [2:30:04] na [2:30:05] block [2:30:05] lamang [2:30:06] so [2:30:06] it [2:30:07] can [2:30:07] be [2:30:07] both [2:30:07] your [2:30:08] owners [2:30:08] it [2:30:08] could [2:30:09] be [2:30:09] the [2:30:10] account [2:30:10] could [2:30:11] have [2:30:11] been [2:30:11] blocked [2:30:12] from [2:30:12] the [2:30:12] platform [2:30:12] entirely [2:30:13] or [2:30:13] it [2:30:13] could [2:30:14] have [2:30:14] been [2:30:14] banned [2:30:14] within [2:30:15] that [2:30:15] particular [2:30:15] age [2:30:16] group [2:30:16] or [2:30:16] sometimes [2:30:17] we [2:30:17] even [2:30:17] see [2:30:17] that [2:30:18] it [2:30:18] it's [2:30:18] just [2:30:19] blocked [2:30:19] when [2:30:19] it [2:30:20] comes [2:30:20] to [2:30:20] that [2:30:20] particular [2:30:20] user [2:30:21] your [2:30:21] honor [2:30:21] All right [2:30:24] so [2:30:24] again [2:30:24] both [2:30:26] modes [2:30:27] will be [2:30:28] considered [2:30:28] hanggang [2:30:29] sa [2:30:29] technical [2:30:29] working [2:30:30] group [2:30:30] natin [2:30:31] kung [2:30:31] pareho [2:30:31] bang [2:30:31] gusto [2:30:32] natin [2:30:32] iwan [2:30:33] option [2:30:33] or [2:30:33] do [2:30:34] we [2:30:34] prefer [2:30:34] one [2:30:34] or [2:30:35] the [2:30:35] other [2:30:36] at [2:30:37] ipasok [2:30:38] natin [2:30:38] sa [2:30:38] panukalang [2:30:39] batas [2:30:40] I'm [2:30:40] sure [2:30:40] the [2:30:41] ICTC [2:30:42] ICC [2:30:42] in particular [2:30:43] are very [2:30:43] much [2:30:44] on top [2:30:44] of [2:30:44] this [2:30:45] sa inyo [2:30:45] ring [2:30:45] pag [2:30:45] engage [2:30:46] sa [2:30:46] roblox [2:30:47] all [2:30:48] right [2:30:48] so [2:30:49] unless [2:30:50] me [2:30:50] yes [2:30:51] ma'am [2:30:51] assistant [2:30:54] director [2:30:54] limb [2:30:55] for [2:30:56] DTI [2:30:56] you have [2:30:56] the [2:30:57] floor [2:30:57] you [2:31:00] from [2:31:00] the [2:31:00] DTI [2:31:01] recognizes [2:31:01] the [2:31:02] important [2:31:05] strength [2:31:06] and [2:31:06] we [2:31:07] will [2:31:10] support [2:31:10] any [2:31:11] measures [2:31:11] such [2:31:13] as [2:31:13] the [2:31:13] adoption [2:31:14] of [2:31:14] control [2:31:15] access [2:31:15] measures [2:31:16] to [2:31:16] protect [2:31:17] the [2:31:17] child [2:31:17] safety [2:31:18] and [2:31:18] ensure [2:31:19] their [2:31:20] protection [2:31:20] the [2:31:22] DTI [2:31:22] is [2:31:23] vested [2:31:23] with [2:31:23] authority [2:31:24] the [2:31:24] regular [2:31:25] jurisdiction [2:31:26] over [2:31:27] the [2:31:27] use [2:31:27] of [2:31:27] internet [2:31:28] in [2:31:28] e-commerce [2:31:29] by [2:31:31] marketplaces [2:31:32] online [2:31:33] merchants [2:31:34] and [2:31:34] digital [2:31:35] platforms [2:31:35] so [2:31:36] what's [2:31:36] the [2:31:36] applicability [2:31:37] of [2:31:37] this [2:31:38] internet [2:31:38] transactions [2:31:39] to [2:31:39] roblox [2:31:40] roblox [2:31:40] is [2:31:41] a [2:31:41] digital [2:31:41] platform [2:31:42] considering [2:31:44] that [2:31:45] they [2:31:45] operate [2:31:46] as [2:31:46] an [2:31:46] online [2:31:46] gaming [2:31:47] and [2:31:47] understand [2:31:48] they [2:31:49] facilitates [2:31:51] in [2:31:51] platform [2:31:52] purchases [2:31:52] and [2:31:55] with [2:31:55] that [2:31:56] our [2:31:57] children [2:31:57] are [2:32:02] online [2:32:06] consumers [2:32:07] specifically [2:32:08] when they [2:32:09] purchase [2:32:09] virtual [2:32:10] currencies [2:32:11] and [2:32:11] with [2:32:12] that [2:32:12] they [2:32:12] have [2:32:12] to [2:32:12] these [2:32:14] online [2:32:14] gaming [2:32:15] platforms [2:32:16] must [2:32:17] exercise [2:32:18] and [2:32:19] safeguards [2:32:20] must [2:32:20] have [2:32:21] that [2:32:21] appropriate [2:32:22] safeguards [2:32:23] to [2:32:23] protect [2:32:23] the [2:32:24] interest [2:32:24] of [2:32:24] the [2:32:24] children [2:32:24] and [2:32:25] we [2:32:25] will [2:32:25] support [2:32:25] whatever [2:32:26] measures [2:32:26] such as [2:32:28] any [2:32:30] appropriate [2:32:31] measures [2:32:31] that will [2:32:32] have to [2:32:32] protect [2:32:33] the [2:32:33] interest [2:32:34] of our [2:32:34] children [2:32:34] also [2:32:36] the DTI [2:32:37] continuously [2:32:38] intensify [2:32:42] its monitoring [2:32:42] having the [2:32:44] regulatory [2:32:44] jurisdiction [2:32:45] over the [2:32:46] use of [2:32:46] internet [2:32:46] although [2:32:47] the [2:32:48] law [2:32:48] recognizes [2:32:49] its [2:32:50] ancillary [2:32:50] jurisdiction [2:32:51] giving [2:32:53] respect [2:32:53] to [2:32:53] the [2:32:54] constituted [2:32:55] regulatory [2:32:56] authority [2:32:57] which [2:32:57] has [2:32:57] primary [2:32:58] jurisdiction [2:32:58] kagaya [2:32:59] po [2:32:59] cyber [2:32:59] crime [2:33:00] issues [2:33:00] and [2:33:01] the [2:33:01] DTI [2:33:01] notifies [2:33:03] and [2:33:04] coordinates [2:33:05] with that [2:33:05] concerned [2:33:06] agency [2:33:06] prior to [2:33:07] enforcement [2:33:08] kasi [2:33:08] the [2:33:09] DTI [2:33:09] has [2:33:10] the [2:33:11] authority [2:33:12] to issue [2:33:13] compliance [2:33:13] order [2:33:13] takedown [2:33:14] order [2:33:15] and even [2:33:15] blacklisting [2:33:16] we also [2:33:17] have [2:33:17] the [2:33:18] law [2:33:18] also [2:33:18] has [2:33:19] extraterritorial [2:33:20] application [2:33:20] po [2:33:21] so [2:33:21] even [2:33:22] if [2:33:22] Roblox [2:33:23] is [2:33:23] operating [2:33:23] but [2:33:25] meron [2:33:26] naman [2:33:26] siyang [2:33:26] presence [2:33:28] in the [2:33:29] market [2:33:29] subject [2:33:30] pushes [2:33:31] ating [2:33:31] existing [2:33:32] laws [2:33:32] however [2:33:33] the [2:33:34] DTI [2:33:34] has [2:33:35] yet [2:33:35] to [2:33:35] formulate [2:33:36] a [2:33:36] guideline [2:33:37] specifically [2:33:38] for [2:33:39] extraterritorial [2:33:40] application [2:33:41] and we [2:33:42] have [2:33:42] challenges [2:33:42] for [2:33:43] that [2:33:43] particular [2:33:43] for [2:33:44] the [2:33:44] formulation [2:33:45] of [2:33:45] such [2:33:45] guidelines [2:33:46] and [2:33:47] also [2:33:48] Madam [2:33:48] Chair [2:33:49] for [2:33:49] the [2:33:50] DTI [2:33:50] supports [2:33:51] the [2:33:51] measure [2:33:51] ito [2:33:52] pong [2:33:52] ating [2:33:52] Senate [2:33:54] bill [2:33:54] and with [2:33:55] that [2:33:55] we [2:33:55] recommend [2:33:56] to [2:33:56] include [2:33:57] DTI [2:33:57] in the [2:33:59] National [2:33:59] Coordinating [2:34:00] Council [2:34:00] to ensure [2:34:01] policy [2:34:02] coherence [2:34:03] and [2:34:03] coordinated [2:34:04] enforcement [2:34:05] activities [2:34:06] in the [2:34:06] digital [2:34:07] market [2:34:07] Thank [2:34:09] you [2:34:09] Thank [2:34:10] assistant [2:34:11] director [2:34:11] and [2:34:12] after [2:34:13] all [2:34:13] broadly [2:34:14] speaking [2:34:14] roblox [2:34:15] or [2:34:15] online [2:34:16] gaming [2:34:16] platforms [2:34:17] in general [2:34:17] could be [2:34:17] considered [2:34:18] services [2:34:19] subject [2:34:19] nga [2:34:20] po [2:34:20] sa [2:34:20] pag [2:34:21] regulate [2:34:21] sa mga [2:34:21] produkto [2:34:22] at [2:34:22] servisyo [2:34:23] dito [2:34:23] sa loob [2:34:24] ng [2:34:24] Pilipinas [2:34:25] or ng [2:34:25] Philippine [2:34:26] market [2:34:26] I took [2:34:27] note [2:34:27] yung [2:34:27] sinabi [2:34:28] yung [2:34:28] the [2:34:28] department [2:34:29] is yet [2:34:29] to [2:34:29] formulate [2:34:30] guidelines [2:34:31] for [2:34:31] extraterritorial [2:34:32] application [2:34:33] please do [2:34:34] share that [2:34:35] yung [2:34:35] developments [2:34:35] dyan [2:34:36] sa [2:34:36] komite [2:34:36] kasi [2:34:37] nga [2:34:37] we're [2:34:37] in [2:34:37] this [2:34:37] situation [2:34:38] with [2:34:38] just [2:34:38] one [2:34:39] company [2:34:39] roblox [2:34:40] na [2:34:40] wala [2:34:40] pa [2:34:41] silang [2:34:43] opisina [2:34:43] at [2:34:43] representante [2:34:44] Thank [2:34:45] you very [2:34:45] much [2:34:46] po [2:34:46] Oh [2:34:47] wow [2:34:47] Okay [2:34:48] last [2:34:48] round [2:34:49] Dr. [2:34:50] Abari [2:34:51] briefly [2:34:52] Yusek [2:34:52] Tapales [2:34:53] and [2:34:54] Attorney [2:34:55] Pagbilaw [2:34:56] Flores [2:34:56] Magandang [2:34:59] hapon po [2:35:00] sa inyong [2:35:00] lahat [2:35:00] Madam Chair [2:35:01] Magandang [2:35:01] hapon po [2:35:02] I am [2:35:02] Dr. [2:35:02] Christine [2:35:03] Elena [2:35:03] Barry [2:35:03] I am [2:35:04] a [2:35:05] medical [2:35:05] specialist [2:35:05] from [2:35:06] Department [2:35:06] of [2:35:07] Health [2:35:07] representing [2:35:07] National [2:35:08] Center [2:35:08] for [2:35:09] Mental [2:35:09] Health [2:35:09] I am [2:35:10] also [2:35:10] here [2:35:11] as a [2:35:11] representative [2:35:11] din po [2:35:12] kasama [2:35:13] ang [2:35:13] PPA [2:35:14] at [2:35:14] ang [2:35:15] PSCAP [2:35:15] I am [2:35:15] also [2:35:16] a [2:35:16] child [2:35:16] and [2:35:16] adolescent [2:35:17] psychiatrist [2:35:18] and [2:35:18] before [2:35:19] I [2:35:19] read [2:35:19] po [2:35:19] yung [2:35:20] aming [2:35:20] stand [2:35:21] ng [2:35:21] DOH [2:35:21] I [2:35:21] would [2:35:22] also [2:35:22] like [2:35:22] to [2:35:22] reiterate [2:35:23] po [2:35:23] what [2:35:24] we're [2:35:26] already [2:35:27] the [2:35:27] effects [2:35:27] and [2:35:29] with [2:35:30] addressing [2:35:30] the [2:35:31] well-being [2:35:31] of [2:35:32] our [2:35:32] children [2:35:32] and [2:35:33] adolescent [2:35:33] we [2:35:34] always [2:35:35] have [2:35:35] to [2:35:35] consider [2:35:36] prevention [2:35:37] is [2:35:37] better [2:35:37] than [2:35:38] cure [2:35:38] online [2:35:40] games [2:35:40] excessive [2:35:41] early [2:35:42] exposure [2:35:42] and [2:35:43] unsupervised [2:35:44] exposure [2:35:45] po [2:35:46] sa [2:35:46] online [2:35:46] games [2:35:47] really [2:35:47] has [2:35:47] a [2:35:47] high [2:35:48] correlation [2:35:48] with [2:35:49] anxiety [2:35:50] depression [2:35:51] as [2:35:51] earlier [2:35:51] mentioned [2:35:52] po [2:35:52] of [2:35:52] suicidality [2:35:53] although [2:35:54] we [2:35:54] have [2:35:54] to [2:35:54] consider [2:35:55] these [2:35:55] are [2:35:55] multi [2:35:56] multifactor [2:35:57] po [2:35:57] siya [2:35:57] not [2:35:58] blaming [2:35:59] just [2:35:59] the [2:35:59] roblox [2:36:00] or [2:36:00] any [2:36:00] online [2:36:01] games [2:36:01] in [2:36:01] that [2:36:02] matter [2:36:02] po [2:36:02] but [2:36:02] we [2:36:03] have [2:36:04] known [2:36:04] that [2:36:04] children [2:36:05] kanina [2:36:06] po [2:36:06] senator [2:36:07] you [2:36:08] asked [2:36:08] why [2:36:08] are [2:36:08] they [2:36:09] vulnerable [2:36:09] bakit [2:36:10] sila [2:36:10] ang [2:36:10] target [2:36:11] because [2:36:11] fundamentally [2:36:12] biologically [2:36:13] they are [2:36:14] immature [2:36:15] cognitively [2:36:16] emotionally [2:36:17] they [2:36:18] don't [2:36:18] have [2:36:19] the [2:36:19] capacity [2:36:19] yet [2:36:20] for [2:36:20] critical [2:36:20] thinking [2:36:21] they [2:36:22] cannot [2:36:22] differentiate [2:36:23] what [2:36:24] is [2:36:24] real [2:36:25] and [2:36:25] offline [2:36:26] they [2:36:27] cannot [2:36:27] differentiate [2:36:28] that [2:36:28] yet [2:36:29] no [2:36:29] and [2:36:29] they [2:36:29] are [2:36:30] most [2:36:30] vulnerable [2:36:30] because [2:36:31] of [2:36:31] the [2:36:31] environmental [2:36:32] factors [2:36:33] and [2:36:33] I'd [2:36:34] like [2:36:34] to [2:36:34] reiterate [2:36:35] po [2:36:35] these [2:36:36] are [2:36:36] the [2:36:36] effects [2:36:36] so [2:36:37] we [2:36:37] should [2:36:37] also [2:36:38] address [2:36:38] how [2:36:39] to [2:36:39] prevent [2:36:39] it [2:36:40] already [2:36:40] and [2:36:41] this [2:36:41] is [2:36:41] by [2:36:42] ensuring [2:36:42] as [2:36:43] the [2:36:44] DOH [2:36:44] mentioned [2:36:45] po [2:36:45] dito 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I [2:37:09] said [2:37:09] why [2:37:09] our [2:37:10] second [2:37:10] child [2:37:10] resources [2:37:11] she's [2:37:12] a 12 [2:37:12] years [2:37:13] old [2:37:13] senator [2:37:13] visa [2:37:15] and [2:37:15] I [2:37:15] asked [2:37:16] why [2:37:16] because [2:37:17] mommy [2:37:17] even [2:37:18] if [2:37:18] they [2:37:18] have [2:37:18] the [2:37:19] safety [2:37:19] measurement [2:37:20] already [2:37:20] all [2:37:21] you [2:37:21] have [2:37:21] to [2:37:21] do [2:37:21] is [2:37:22] go [2:37:22] online [2:37:22] go [2:37:23] to [2:37:23] youtube [2:37:24] and [2:37:25] search [2:37:25] how [2:37:26] to [2:37:26] deactivate [2:37:27] parental [2:37:27] control [2:37:28] and [2:37:29] even [2:37:29] as [2:37:30] I [2:37:30] go [2:37:30] here [2:37:31] on [2:37:31] my [2:37:32] way [2:37:32] I [2:37:32] try [2:37:32] to [2:37:33] search [2:37:33] it [2:37:33] on [2:37:36] how [2:37:36] to [2:37:36] deactivate [2:37:37] it [2:37:37] so [2:37:38] in [2:37:38] addition [2:37:39] to [2:37:39] enhancing [2:37:40] the [2:37:40] safety [2:37:41] measure [2:37:41] for [2:37:41] our [2:37:42] children [2:37:42] parental [2:37:43] control [2:37:44] it [2:37:44] is [2:37:44] also [2:37:45] important [2:37:45] that [2:37:46] we [2:37:46] work [2:37:46] with [2:37:47] our [2:37:47] community [2:37:47] the [2:37:48] school [2:37:48] and [2:37:49] parents [2:37:49] most [2:37:50] especially [2:37:50] the [2:37:51] parents [2:37:51] to [2:37:52] enhance [2:37:52] digital [2:37:53] literacy [2:37:54] that [2:37:55] will be [2:37:56] all [2:37:56] maraming [2:37:56] salamat [2:37:57] po [2:37:57] maraming [2:37:58] salamat [2:37:58] din po [2:37:59] Dr. [2:37:59] Christine [2:38:00] you [2:38:00] said [2:38:01] the [2:38:01] palace [2:38:01] briefly [2:38:01] po [2:38:02] very [2:38:02] briefly [2:38:03] madam [2:38:03] chair [2:38:04] as [2:38:04] to [2:38:05] the [2:38:05] prevention [2:38:05] aspect [2:38:06] I [2:38:06] fully [2:38:06] agree [2:38:06] with [2:38:06] doktora [2:38:07] that's [2:38:08] why [2:38:08] the [2:38:09] CWC [2:38:09] is [2:38:09] emphasizing [2:38:10] the [2:38:10] safeguarding [2:38:11] and [2:38:11] protection [2:38:12] policy [2:38:12] safeguarding [2:38:13] aspect [2:38:13] madam [2:38:14] chair [2:38:14] it's [2:38:15] about [2:38:16] prevention [2:38:17] yung [2:38:18] mga [2:38:18] bagay [2:38:19] situations [2:38:19] na [2:38:19] hindi [2:38:19] pa [2:38:20] illegal [2:38:20] hindi [2:38:21] pa [2:38:21] sakot [2:38:21] ng batas [2:38:22] natin [2:38:22] pero [2:38:23] it might [2:38:23] be [2:38:23] precursors [2:38:24] or [2:38:25] preparatory [2:38:26] acts [2:38:26] yun po [2:38:27] ang nagre-regulate [2:38:28] yung [2:38:28] CSPPs [2:38:29] na tinatawag [2:38:30] doon naman [2:38:32] sa reporting [2:38:33] madam chair [2:38:33] the point [2:38:34] stated earlier [2:38:35] when it [2:38:36] comes to [2:38:36] online [2:38:37] sexual [2:38:37] abuse [2:38:37] only 30 [2:38:38] to 40 [2:38:38] percent [2:38:39] lang po [2:38:39] ang nagre-report [2:38:40] as mentioned [2:38:42] by our [2:38:43] NGO [2:38:44] partner [2:38:45] hindi sila [2:38:46] nagre-report [2:38:46] usually [2:38:47] trusted [2:38:47] adult [2:38:48] yan [2:38:48] nagre-report [2:38:49] only 4% [2:38:50] report [2:38:50] to the [2:38:50] police [2:38:51] to social [2:38:52] workers [2:38:52] or to [2:38:53] a [2:38:53] helpline [2:38:53] that's [2:38:55] why [2:38:55] we [2:38:55] want [2:38:55] to [2:38:55] emphasize [2:38:56] that [2:38:56] mechanism [2:38:57] reporting [2:38:57] mechanism [2:38:58] should [2:38:58] be [2:38:58] functional [2:38:59] because [2:39:00] if [2:39:00] you [2:39:00] don't [2:39:02] have [2:39:02] a [2:39:02] reporting [2:39:02] mechanism [2:39:03] or if [2:39:04] it's [2:39:04] not [2:39:04] functional [2:39:05] children [2:39:06] or [2:39:06] people [2:39:07] reporting [2:39:07] will [2:39:08] lose [2:39:08] trust [2:39:08] in [2:39:09] the [2:39:09] system [2:39:09] and [2:39:10] doon [2:39:10] na [2:39:10] po [2:39:11] mapupunta [2:39:11] kina [2:39:11] doktora [2:39:12] sa [2:39:12] NCMH [2:39:13] po [2:39:13] we [2:39:14] want [2:39:14] to [2:39:14] avoid [2:39:15] that [2:39:15] we [2:39:15] don't [2:39:15] want [2:39:16] children [2:39:16] because [2:39:17] it [2:39:17] took [2:39:17] them [2:39:17] a lot [2:39:18] of [2:39:18] courage [2:39:19] to [2:39:20] begin [2:39:20] with [2:39:20] to [2:39:20] report [2:39:21] so [2:39:21] if [2:39:22] reports [2:39:22] are [2:39:22] not [2:39:23] acted [2:39:23] upon [2:39:23] or [2:39:24] reporting [2:39:24] mechanisms [2:39:25] are [2:39:25] not [2:39:25] functional [2:39:26] they [2:39:27] will [2:39:27] lose [2:39:27] trust [2:39:27] in [2:39:28] the [2:39:28] system [2:39:28] we [2:39:29] will [2:39:29] lose [2:39:29] them [2:39:29] Madam [2:39:30] Chair [2:39:30] kaya [2:39:31] po [2:39:31] one [2:39:33] example [2:39:34] that [2:39:35] we [2:39:35] can [2:39:35] look [2:39:35] at [2:39:35] is [2:39:35] the [2:39:36] revised [2:39:36] IRR [2:39:37] of [2:39:38] the [2:39:38] Anti-bullying [2:39:39] Act [2:39:39] there [2:39:39] is [2:39:40] a [2:39:40] provision [2:39:40] they're [2:39:40] stating [2:39:41] that [2:39:41] zero [2:39:41] reporting [2:39:42] or [2:39:42] zero [2:39:43] figures [2:39:43] or [2:39:44] bullying [2:39:45] cases [2:39:46] does not [2:39:46] mean [2:39:46] that [2:39:46] the [2:39:47] school [2:39:47] is [2:39:47] performing [2:39:48] well [2:39:48] so [2:39:49] it [2:39:49] should [2:39:49] the [2:39:50] same [2:39:50] goes [2:39:50] perhaps [2:39:51] to [2:39:51] internet [2:39:53] intermediaries [2:39:53] and gaming [2:39:54] platforms [2:39:54] with them [2:39:55] chair [2:39:55] reporting [2:39:58] the [2:39:58] platform [2:39:59] is [2:39:59] safe [2:39:59] maybe [2:40:00] there's [2:40:01] no [2:40:01] reporting [2:40:01] mechanism [2:40:02] there's [2:40:03] no [2:40:03] or [2:40:03] it's [2:40:03] not [2:40:04] functional [2:40:04] Madam [2:40:05] Chair [2:40:05] so [2:40:05] in [2:40:06] any [2:40:06] legislation [2:40:07] perhaps [2:40:07] a [2:40:08] provision [2:40:08] like [2:40:08] that [2:40:09] Madam [2:40:09] Chair [2:40:09] so [2:40:10] that [2:40:10] platforms [2:40:11] will [2:40:11] really [2:40:11] establish [2:40:13] robust [2:40:14] reporting [2:40:14] mechanisms [2:40:15] they [2:40:15] will [2:40:16] act [2:40:16] on [2:40:16] the [2:40:16] reports [2:40:17] Madam [2:40:17] Chair [2:40:17] and [2:40:18] for [2:40:19] those [2:40:19] who [2:40:19] for [2:40:20] the [2:40:20] reports [2:40:21] which [2:40:21] they [2:40:21] cannot [2:40:21] handle [2:40:22] by [2:40:22] themselves [2:40:22] of [2:40:23] course [2:40:23] the [2:40:23] government [2:40:24] the [2:40:24] law [2:40:24] enforcement [2:40:24] agencies [2:40:25] are here [2:40:25] Madam [2:40:25] Chair [2:40:25] thank you [2:40:27] thank you [2:40:28] you [2:40:28] and last [2:40:29] but not [2:40:30] the least [2:40:30] yes [2:40:31] thank you [2:40:32] Madam [2:40:32] Chair [2:40:33] in addition [2:40:34] to [2:40:34] requiring [2:40:35] not [2:40:35] just [2:40:36] not just [2:40:37] gaming [2:40:37] platform [2:40:37] but [2:40:38] all [2:40:38] online [2:40:38] platforms [2:40:39] to [2:40:39] really [2:40:40] install [2:40:41] safety [2:40:41] by [2:40:41] design [2:40:42] mechanisms [2:40:42] in [2:40:43] their [2:40:43] platforms [2:40:45] we [2:40:45] also [2:40:45] would [2:40:46] like [2:40:46] to [2:40:46] flag [2:40:46] in [2:40:47] so far [2:40:47] as [2:40:47] Roblox [2:40:48] is [2:40:48] concerned [2:40:49] to [2:40:51] improve [2:40:51] their [2:40:51] efficiency [2:40:52] in [2:40:52] reporting [2:40:53] so [2:40:54] it's [2:40:54] been [2:40:54] reported [2:40:55] that [2:40:55] although [2:40:56] they [2:40:56] report [2:40:57] cases [2:40:57] to [2:40:57] NICNIC [2:40:58] a lot [2:40:59] of [2:40:59] these [2:40:59] cases [2:40:59] reported [2:41:00] are not [2:41:01] actionable [2:41:01] simply [2:41:02] because [2:41:03] there's [2:41:03] no way [2:41:03] to move [2:41:04] forward [2:41:04] with regard [2:41:05] to [2:41:05] investigation [2:41:06] of [2:41:06] cases [2:41:07] so [2:41:07] even [2:41:07] if [2:41:08] it's [2:41:08] reported [2:41:08] that [2:41:09] there's [2:41:10] online [2:41:10] enticement [2:41:11] there's [2:41:11] grooming [2:41:11] if you [2:41:14] look at [2:41:14] the [2:41:14] reports [2:41:15] there are [2:41:15] no [2:41:15] details [2:41:16] that [2:41:16] could [2:41:16] help [2:41:17] or [2:41:17] assist [2:41:17] the [2:41:17] law [2:41:18] enforcement [2:41:18] agencies [2:41:19] to [2:41:20] move [2:41:20] forward [2:41:20] like [2:41:20] for [2:41:21] example [2:41:21] when I [2:41:22] tried [2:41:23] to [2:41:23] open [2:41:23] an [2:41:23] account [2:41:24] in [2:41:24] Roblox [2:41:24] there's [2:41:25] really [2:41:26] no [2:41:26] very [2:41:28] detailed [2:41:28] questions [2:41:30] like [2:41:30] to [2:41:31] verify [2:41:31] my [2:41:31] identity [2:41:32] like [2:41:32] I [2:41:32] could [2:41:32] just [2:41:33] made [2:41:33] up [2:41:33] some [2:41:33] emails [2:41:34] or [2:41:34] made [2:41:34] up [2:41:34] an [2:41:34] identity [2:41:35] and [2:41:35] do [2:41:36] the [2:41:36] age [2:41:36] verification [2:41:38] don't [2:41:38] look [2:41:38] for [2:41:38] IDs [2:41:39] they [2:41:40] don't [2:41:40] look [2:41:40] for [2:41:40] any [2:41:41] other [2:41:41] identifying [2:41:42] details [2:41:42] to [2:41:43] identify [2:41:43] who [2:41:43] you [2:41:44] are [2:41:44] so [2:41:44] for [2:41:45] example [2:41:45] if [2:41:45] it's [2:41:45] reported [2:41:46] to [2:41:46] NCMIC [2:41:47] and then [2:41:47] forwarded [2:41:48] to our [2:41:48] law [2:41:48] enforcement [2:41:49] agencies [2:41:49] we [2:41:50] have [2:41:50] nothing [2:41:51] to [2:41:51] go [2:41:53] forward [2:41:53] with [2:41:54] right [2:41:54] because [2:41:55] they're [2:41:55] very [2:41:56] insufficient [2:41:57] details [2:41:57] so [2:41:58] I [2:41:58] think [2:41:58] that [2:41:59] still [2:41:59] goes [2:41:59] back [2:42:00] to [2:42:01] how [2:42:01] they [2:42:01] gather [2:42:01] data [2:42:02] because [2:42:02] they're [2:42:03] very [2:42:03] concerned [2:42:03] about [2:42:04] data [2:42:04] privacy [2:42:04] that's [2:42:05] why [2:42:05] they [2:42:05] don't [2:42:05] ask [2:42:05] for [2:42:06] identification [2:42:08] but [2:42:08] then [2:42:08] we [2:42:08] have [2:42:09] to [2:42:09] balance [2:42:09] it [2:42:10] with [2:42:10] child [2:42:11] protective [2:42:11] policies [2:42:12] so [2:42:12] I [2:42:12] think [2:42:13] that's [2:42:13] really [2:42:13] one [2:42:13] aspect [2:42:14] that [2:42:14] we [2:42:14] have [2:42:14] to [2:42:14] look [2:42:15] into [2:42:15] also [2:42:16] because [2:42:17] right [2:42:17] now [2:42:17] their [2:42:17] age [2:42:18] verification [2:42:18] is [2:42:19] really [2:42:19] more [2:42:19] on [2:42:20] facial [2:42:21] recognition [2:42:22] not [2:42:22] on [2:42:23] any [2:42:23] other [2:42:23] and [2:42:24] behavioral [2:42:24] analysis [2:42:25] Thank [2:42:27] you [2:42:27] ma'am [2:42:28] kailangan [2:42:29] balansihin [2:42:30] yung [2:42:30] data [2:42:30] privacy [2:42:31] sa [2:42:31] kayong [2:42:32] best [2:42:32] interest [2:42:32] of [2:42:32] the [2:42:32] child [2:42:33] at [2:42:33] yung [2:42:33] pagprotecta [2:42:34] sa [2:42:35] mga [2:42:35] bata [2:42:35] sa [2:42:36] mga [2:42:36] potentially [2:42:37] or [2:42:37] actually [2:42:38] dangerous [2:42:39] situations [2:42:39] I [2:42:40] saw [2:42:40] okay [2:42:41] last [2:42:42] but [2:42:42] not [2:42:42] last [2:42:43] two [2:42:44] briefly [2:42:45] Yusek [2:42:46] Paraiso [2:42:47] and [2:42:47] save the [2:42:47] best [2:42:48] for last [2:42:48] Commissioner [2:42:49] Lopez [2:42:50] okay [2:42:51] Yusek [2:42:51] So [2:42:52] magpaparam [2:42:53] na rin [2:42:53] okay [2:42:54] kumela [2:42:54] mauna [2:42:54] na po [2:42:55] hukum [2:42:55] but [2:42:58] Madam Chair [2:43:00] we like [2:43:00] to emphasize [2:43:01] that [2:43:01] banning [2:43:02] was really [2:43:03] not the [2:43:03] option [2:43:03] banning [2:43:04] was [2:43:04] really [2:43:05] the [2:43:05] last [2:43:05] option [2:43:06] but [2:43:06] we [2:43:06] have [2:43:06] to [2:43:06] state [2:43:07] Sorry [2:43:07] Yusek [2:43:08] Paraiso [2:43:08] may [2:43:08] I [2:43:08] just [2:43:09] say [2:43:09] you [2:43:09] don't [2:43:10] have [2:43:10] to [2:43:10] be [2:43:10] shy [2:43:10] CICC [2:43:11] doesn't [2:43:11] have [2:43:11] to [2:43:12] be [2:43:12] shy [2:43:12] na [2:43:12] naisip [2:43:13] nyo [2:43:13] mag [2:43:13] ban [2:43:13] I [2:43:14] think [2:43:14] it [2:43:14] was [2:43:14] a [2:43:14] natural [2:43:15] response [2:43:16] dahil [2:43:16] nga [2:43:22] committee [2:43:23] so [2:43:23] we [2:43:24] understand [2:43:24] it's [2:43:25] very [2:43:25] understandable [2:43:26] and [2:43:26] we [2:43:27] are [2:43:27] talking [2:43:27] about [2:43:27] various [2:43:28] options [2:43:28] here [2:43:29] now [2:43:29] from [2:43:29] banning [2:43:30] to [2:43:30] strict [2:43:31] regulation [2:43:31] please [2:43:32] continue [2:43:32] Yes [2:43:33] Madam Chair [2:43:33] in fact [2:43:34] earlier [2:43:34] we stated [2:43:35] that [2:43:35] because [2:43:36] we were [2:43:37] considering [2:43:37] banning [2:43:38] because [2:43:38] these [2:43:39] entities [2:43:39] who are [2:43:40] outside [2:43:40] the [2:43:40] jurisdiction [2:43:41] of the [2:43:41] Philippines [2:43:41] have [2:43:42] no [2:43:42] right [2:43:42] to [2:43:42] seek [2:43:42] protection [2:43:43] under [2:43:43] our [2:43:43] laws [2:43:44] as [2:43:44] well [2:43:44] in [2:43:45] fact [2:43:45] when [2:43:45] all [2:43:45] we [2:43:45] were [2:43:46] discussing [2:43:46] whether [2:43:47] it's [2:43:47] the [2:43:47] DTI [2:43:48] or [2:43:48] CICC [2:43:48] cases [2:43:49] child [2:43:49] cases [2:43:50] even [2:43:50] scams [2:43:51] and [2:43:51] even [2:43:52] cyber [2:43:53] crimes [2:43:53] the [2:43:53] problem [2:43:54] really [2:43:54] is [2:43:54] acquiring [2:43:55] jurisdiction [2:43:55] over [2:43:56] all [2:43:56] these [2:43:57] platforms [2:43:57] I [2:43:57] think [2:43:57] that's [2:43:58] the [2:43:58] most [2:43:58] non-contentious [2:43:59] issue [2:44:00] here [2:44:00] if [2:44:01] we [2:44:01] can [2:44:01] gather [2:44:01] and [2:44:02] we [2:44:02] can [2:44:02] acquire [2:44:03] jurisdiction [2:44:03] over [2:44:03] these [2:44:03] platforms [2:44:04] we [2:44:04] can [2:44:04] effectively [2:44:05] legislate [2:44:07] and [2:44:07] effectively [2:44:07] enforce [2:44:08] that [2:44:08] legislation [2:44:08] because [2:44:09] if [2:44:09] we [2:44:10] allow [2:44:12] this [2:44:12] who [2:44:13] enforce [2:44:13] it [2:44:14] and [2:44:14] let [2:44:15] me [2:44:15] propose [2:44:16] this [2:44:16] since [2:44:17] it's [2:44:17] already [2:44:17] on the [2:44:18] committee [2:44:19] level [2:44:19] there is [2:44:19] a [2:44:20] discussion [2:44:20] now [2:44:20] on [2:44:20] the [2:44:21] revisions [2:44:22] of [2:44:22] RA [2:44:23] 10175 [2:44:24] or the [2:44:24] cybercrime [2:44:24] prevention [2:44:25] act [2:44:25] of [2:44:25] 2012 [2:44:26] which [2:44:27] is [2:44:27] really [2:44:28] needed [2:44:28] right [2:44:29] now [2:44:29] Madam [2:44:29] Chair [2:44:29] and [2:44:30] maybe [2:44:30] that [2:44:30] would [2:44:30] be [2:44:30] the [2:44:31] avenue [2:44:31] to [2:44:31] enforce [2:44:32] and [2:44:33] explore [2:44:34] certain [2:44:35] remedies [2:44:36] and [2:44:36] certain [2:44:36] revisions [2:44:37] amendments [2:44:38] to the [2:44:38] law [2:44:38] that [2:44:39] would [2:44:39] allow [2:44:40] us [2:44:40] to [2:44:40] effectively [2:44:41] govern [2:44:41] this [2:44:43] ongoing [2:44:43] online [2:44:44] phenomenon [2:44:47] that [2:44:47] we're [2:44:48] experiencing [2:44:48] right [2:44:48] now [2:44:49] Madam [2:44:49] Chair [2:44:49] Thank [2:44:49] you [2:44:50] Madam [2:44:50] Chair [2:44:50] Thank you [2:44:51] to [2:44:51] Yusek [2:44:51] Paraiso [2:44:52] at [2:44:52] importante [2:44:52] yung [2:44:53] isa yung [2:44:54] punto [2:44:54] na [2:44:54] binanggit [2:44:54] nyo [2:44:55] na [2:44:55] they have [2:44:56] no [2:44:56] right [2:44:56] to seek [2:44:57] protection [2:44:58] of [2:44:58] Philippine [2:44:58] law [2:44:58] if they [2:44:58] are not [2:44:59] following [2:44:59] Philippine [2:45:00] law [2:45:00] or if [2:45:00] we want [2:45:00] to put it [2:45:01] positively [2:45:01] pwede [2:45:02] pwede [2:45:02] pwede [2:45:02] pwede [2:45:02] nilang [2:45:02] i-enjoy [2:45:03] yung [2:45:03] protection [2:45:03] ng [2:45:03] Philippine [2:45:04] law [2:45:04] pero [2:45:04] kailang [2:45:04] sumunod [2:45:05] din [2:45:05] sila [2:45:05] sa [2:45:06] badas [2:45:06] ng [2:45:06] Pilipinas [2:45:07] Salamat [2:45:08] po [2:45:08] and [2:45:08] last [2:45:09] but [2:45:09] not [2:45:09] the [2:45:09] least [2:45:10] Yes [2:45:10] ma'am [2:45:11] Madam [2:45:12] Chair [2:45:12] good [2:45:13] afternoon [2:45:13] po [2:45:13] good [2:45:14] afternoon [2:45:14] po [2:45:14] sa [2:45:14] lahat [2:45:15] sundan ko [2:45:16] lang po [2:45:17] yung [2:45:17] sabi [2:45:17] ni [2:45:17] USEC [2:45:18] para [2:45:18] isunod [2:45:19] banning [2:45:20] naman po [2:45:20] talaga [2:45:21] is the [2:45:21] last [2:45:21] option [2:45:21] but [2:45:22] it's [2:45:22] the [2:45:22] only [2:45:22] option [2:45:23] po [2:45:23] kasi [2:45:23] available [2:45:23] to us [2:45:24] now [2:45:24] because [2:45:25] what [2:45:25] we're [2:45:25] doing [2:45:25] is [2:45:26] that [2:45:26] nakiusap [2:45:27] po [2:45:27] tayo [2:45:27] sa [2:45:28] mga [2:45:28] platforms [2:45:28] na ito [2:45:29] to take [2:45:29] action [2:45:29] Yes [2:45:30] they have [2:45:31] may mga [2:45:32] government [2:45:32] portals [2:45:33] where we can [2:45:33] report [2:45:34] pero [2:45:34] naghihintay [2:45:35] pa rin [2:45:35] po tayo [2:45:36] when [2:45:36] will they [2:45:37] take [2:45:37] action [2:45:37] on that [2:45:38] the [2:45:39] NTC [2:45:39] doesn't [2:45:40] regulate [2:45:41] online content [2:45:42] or [2:45:42] actually [2:45:43] mawala [2:45:44] wala [2:45:44] kasing [2:45:44] regulation [2:45:45] talaga [2:45:45] online [2:45:45] content [2:45:46] and [2:45:46] digital [2:45:47] platforms [2:45:48] directly [2:45:48] but [2:45:49] I think [2:45:50] we [2:45:50] recognize [2:45:51] naman [2:45:52] that [2:45:52] the [2:45:52] infrastructure [2:45:53] of the [2:45:53] telecommunications [2:45:54] are [2:45:55] very much [2:45:56] into [2:45:57] whether [2:45:58] to [2:45:58] disrupt [2:45:59] the [2:45:59] online [2:45:59] activities [2:46:00] or to [2:46:01] promote [2:46:01] online [2:46:01] activities [2:46:02] that [2:46:03] is [2:46:03] why [2:46:03] when [2:46:04] under [2:46:05] the [2:46:06] OSAXSIM [2:46:07] law [2:46:07] when [2:46:08] the [2:46:08] regulators [2:46:08] were [2:46:09] required [2:46:10] to [2:46:10] install [2:46:12] filtering [2:46:12] technologies [2:46:13] they [2:46:14] install [2:46:15] filtering [2:46:16] technologies [2:46:17] and [2:46:18] I [2:46:18] think [2:46:18] with [2:46:18] the [2:46:19] NCC [2:46:19] DOJ [2:46:19] we're [2:46:20] also [2:46:20] in [2:46:20] the [2:46:20] process [2:46:21] of [2:46:21] establishing [2:46:23] age [2:46:23] verification [2:46:24] protocols [2:46:24] as [2:46:25] for [2:46:25] NTC [2:46:26] we [2:46:26] have [2:46:29] submitted [2:46:29] the [2:46:30] research [2:46:31] paper [2:46:31] on [2:46:31] that [2:46:32] and [2:46:32] we [2:46:33] will [2:46:33] also [2:46:33] provide [2:46:34] the [2:46:34] committee [2:46:34] with [2:46:35] documents [2:46:35] or [2:46:35] information [2:46:36] as [2:46:36] to [2:46:36] age [2:46:37] verification [2:46:38] protocols [2:46:38] established [2:46:39] as [2:46:40] ibang [2:46:41] bansa [2:46:42] at [2:46:42] ibang [2:46:43] digital [2:46:43] platforms [2:46:44] thank you [2:46:45] and thank you [2:46:45] for this [2:46:46] opportunity [2:46:46] for inviting [2:46:47] the [2:46:47] NTC [2:46:47] and [2:46:49] opportunity [2:46:50] then [2:46:50] for all [2:46:51] the [2:46:51] government [2:46:51] agencies [2:46:52] and [2:46:52] the [2:46:54] stakeholders [2:46:54] to [2:46:54] align [2:46:55] and [2:46:56] as [2:46:58] I [2:46:58] mentioned [2:46:58] by [2:46:59] Senator [2:46:59] Aimee [2:46:59] kanina [2:46:59] medyo [2:47:00] fragmented [2:47:00] nga [2:47:01] po [2:47:01] yung [2:47:01] ating [2:47:01] mga [2:47:01] efforts [2:47:02] maganda [2:47:02] nga [2:47:03] po [2:47:03] na [2:47:03] isang [2:47:03] one [2:47:04] agency [2:47:07] to be [2:47:07] doing [2:47:07] that [2:47:08] or a [2:47:09] council [2:47:09] maybe [2:47:10] to [2:47:10] strengthen [2:47:11] po [2:47:12] ang [2:47:12] powers [2:47:12] po [2:47:13] thank you [2:47:13] madam [2:47:14] thank you [2:47:15] Commissioner [2:47:16] Lopez [2:47:16] I'm sure [2:47:16] the [2:47:17] relevant [2:47:17] agencies [2:47:18] are [2:47:18] listening [2:47:19] to [2:47:19] that [2:47:19] yung [2:47:19] mga [2:47:19] possible [2:47:20] institutional [2:47:21] adjustments [2:47:22] natin [2:47:23] at [2:47:23] salamat [2:47:24] din [2:47:24] po [2:47:24] sa [2:47:24] pagdagdag [2:47:25] sa [2:47:25] mga [2:47:25] detalye [2:47:26] na [2:47:26] sinimula [2:47:26] ng [2:47:26] ipigay [2:47:27] ng [2:47:27] internet [2:47:28] service [2:47:29] providers [2:47:29] natin [2:47:30] that [2:47:30] you [2:47:31] have [2:47:31] been [2:47:31] able [2:47:31] to [2:47:32] in [2:47:32] the [2:47:32] past [2:47:32] and [2:47:32] could [2:47:33] again [2:47:33] if [2:47:34] properly [2:47:34] requested [2:47:35] by [2:47:35] the [2:47:35] government [2:47:35] agencies [2:47:36] take [2:47:36] such [2:47:37] actions [2:47:37] as [2:47:37] disruption [2:47:38] or [2:47:38] promotion [2:47:39] using [2:47:40] of [2:47:40] filtering [2:47:41] technologies [2:47:42] etc. [2:47:43] So [2:47:44] subukan [2:47:45] natin [2:47:45] bigyang [2:47:46] daan [2:47:46] yun [2:47:46] pagdating [2:47:47] natin [2:47:47] dun [2:47:47] sa [2:47:48] ating [2:47:48] technical [2:47:49] working [2:47:49] group [2:47:49] then [2:47:50] Okay [2:47:50] maraming [2:47:52] salamat [2:47:52] po [2:47:52] sa [2:47:53] lahat [2:47:54] ng [2:47:54] resource [2:47:54] persons [2:47:55] na [2:47:56] dumalo [2:47:56] today [2:47:57] especially [2:47:57] our [2:47:58] law [2:47:59] enforcement [2:47:59] partners [2:48:00] who [2:48:00] shared [2:48:00] their [2:48:01] findings [2:48:01] Salamat [2:48:02] po [2:48:02] sa inyo [2:48:02] Colonel [2:48:03] Duciderio [2:48:03] at [2:48:03] Ma'am [2:48:04] Friends [2:48:05] if [2:48:06] you [2:48:06] feel [2:48:06] unsettled [2:48:07] and [2:48:07] concerned [2:48:08] after [2:48:09] this [2:48:09] hearing [2:48:10] you're [2:48:10] alright [2:48:11] to feel [2:48:12] this [2:48:12] way [2:48:12] but [2:48:12] there [2:48:12] is [2:48:13] something [2:48:13] wrong [2:48:13] with [2:48:13] us [2:48:13] kung [2:48:14] hindi [2:48:14] tayo [2:48:14] nabahala [2:48:15] hindi [2:48:16] na [2:48:16] kasi [2:48:16] ito [2:48:16] simple [2:48:17] content [2:48:17] moderation [2:48:18] issue [2:48:19] o [2:48:19] pagbabantay [2:48:20] at babysitting [2:48:21] this is [2:48:22] violent [2:48:23] extremism [2:48:24] kaya [2:48:26] gusto [2:48:26] ko [2:48:26] malaman [2:48:27] ninyo [2:48:27] na [2:48:28] masyadong [2:48:29] mabigat [2:48:30] talaga [2:48:30] kung [2:48:31] ipapasan [2:48:32] lang [2:48:32] natin [2:48:33] ito [2:48:33] sa mga [2:48:34] magulang [2:48:34] at sa [2:48:35] ating [2:48:35] kapulisan [2:48:36] and that [2:48:38] is why [2:48:38] this [2:48:39] committee [2:48:39] will [2:48:39] continue [2:48:40] this [2:48:40] conversation [2:48:41] dahil [2:48:42] itong [2:48:42] banta [2:48:43] na ito [2:48:43] sa mga [2:48:44] bata [2:48:44] itong [2:48:45] banta [2:48:45] sa [2:48:45] siguridad [2:48:46] ng ating [2:48:47] mga [2:48:47] public [2:48:47] spaces [2:48:48] mga [2:48:49] trahedya [2:48:50] na [2:48:50] nangyari [2:48:51] na [2:48:51] o [2:48:51] nagbabadya [2:48:52] pa [2:48:52] nakikinabang [2:48:55] dito [2:48:55] ang [2:48:56] roadblocks [2:48:57] ang [2:48:57] facebook [2:48:58] mga [2:48:59] messaging [2:49:00] apps [2:49:00] at [2:49:01] kahit [2:49:01] mga [2:49:01] electronic [2:49:02] wallets [2:49:03] hindi [2:49:04] po [2:49:04] ito [2:49:04] isolated [2:49:05] cases [2:49:06] these [2:49:06] incidents [2:49:06] are [2:49:07] happening [2:49:07] in [2:49:08] different [2:49:08] parts [2:49:08] of the [2:49:08] Philippines [2:49:09] gaya [2:49:09] ng [2:49:09] narinig [2:49:10] natin [2:49:11] hindi [2:49:11] lang [2:49:11] ito [2:49:11] sa [2:49:12] Laguna [2:49:12] hindi [2:49:13] lang [2:49:13] ito [2:49:13] sa [2:49:14] Marikina [2:49:15] Las [2:49:15] Piñas [2:49:16] Negros [2:49:17] Occidental [2:49:17] at [2:49:17] Pampanga [2:49:18] kundi [2:49:19] sigurado [2:49:20] unfortunately [2:49:21] marami [2:49:21] pang iba [2:49:22] underreported [2:49:23] din [2:49:23] and we [2:49:24] cannot [2:49:24] allow [2:49:25] even [2:49:26] one [2:49:27] school [2:49:27] shooting [2:49:28] to [2:49:28] happen [2:49:29] sa [2:49:30] susunod [2:49:30] the [2:49:30] hearing [2:49:31] we [2:49:31] will [2:49:31] again [2:49:32] invite [2:49:33] Roblox [2:49:34] but [2:49:35] we [2:49:35] will [2:49:35] also [2:49:35] invite [2:49:36] the [2:49:36] Roblox [2:49:36] creator [2:49:37] communities [2:49:38] mahalaga [2:49:39] na [2:49:39] marinig [2:49:39] din [2:49:40] natin [2:49:40] sila [2:49:40] because [2:49:41] they [2:49:41] understand [2:49:42] how [2:49:43] the [2:49:43] program [2:49:43] or [2:49:44] the [2:49:44] platform [2:49:44] works [2:49:45] from [2:49:45] the [2:49:45] inside [2:49:46] we [2:49:47] will [2:49:48] also [2:49:48] call [2:49:48] parenting [2:49:49] groups [2:49:49] sila [2:49:51] nasa [2:49:51] frontlines [2:49:52] araw-araw [2:49:53] tayo [2:49:53] nasa [2:49:54] frontlines [2:49:54] araw-araw [2:49:55] sila [2:49:56] tayo [2:49:57] ang nakakaalam [2:49:58] kung ano [2:49:59] ang screen time [2:50:00] online behavior [2:50:01] and the ways [2:50:02] to keep our [2:50:03] children safe [2:50:04] at the same [2:50:05] time [2:50:05] it is very [2:50:07] important [2:50:07] that [2:50:08] Facebook [2:50:08] attend the [2:50:10] next [2:50:10] hearing [2:50:10] we [2:50:11] expect [2:50:12] again [2:50:12] their [2:50:13] full [2:50:13] cooperation [2:50:14] Facebook [2:50:15] you are [2:50:16] not [2:50:16] bystanders [2:50:17] in [2:50:17] this [2:50:17] meeting [2:50:19] you are [2:50:20] atent [2:50:20] on [2:50:20] traffic [2:50:21] engagement [2:50:23] kaya [2:50:24] panagutan [2:50:24] ninyo [2:50:25] ang [2:50:26] pagtawid [2:50:26] ng [2:50:26] karahasan [2:50:27] sa [2:50:28] platform [2:50:28] ninyo [2:50:29] nagiging [2:50:30] scene [2:50:30] of the [2:50:30] crime [2:50:31] 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Senate holds hearing on Roblox, online gaming platforms over child safety — April 14

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