Senate Justice & Human Rights hearing on the case of Joseph Sy — November 5, 2026 — Full Transcript (November 5, 2026)

[1:16] Mr. C's birth was registered only when he was already 41 years old. [1:24] When authorities investigated the document supporting that late registration, they found serious irregularities. [1:32] The Office of the Civil Registrar of Balanga Bataan reportedly certified that it had no record of the alleged marriage between his declared parents. [1:42] The Office of the Punong Barangay of Barangay Santa Lucia, Quezon City reportedly certified that C and his purported parents were not residents of the barangay. [1:56] The declared residential address at No. 31 Visayas Avenue, Upper Santa Lucia, Nova Liches, Quezon City was reportedly found to be a vacant lot with no known connection to C or his purported parents. [2:10] The baptismal certificate submitted to support his birth registration could not be authenticated by the parish. [2:18] Wala nga po ang simbahan na yun. [2:21] The PSA could not find civil registry records for his supposed parents. [2:28] And despite these red flags, that birth certificate entered our civil registry. [2:34] From there, the consequences became much bigger. [2:36] Because once you have a birth certificate saying you are a Filipino, that document becomes a key. [2:45] It can help you obtain a Philippine passport. [2:47] It allows you to claim rights reserved for Filipinos. [2:51] It can help establish your eligibility as a citizen to own land, participate in constitutionally restricted industries, [3:00] and enter institutions where nationality matters. [3:03] In the case before us, we are talking about a person who became chairman of a major mining company and even became part of the Philippine Coast Guard Auxiliary. [3:15] So, this is not simply a question of whether one document was fraudulent. [3:19] Ang tanong ay, paano naging buong Filipino identity ang isang questionable dokumento? [3:29] Paano nakinabang sa mga pribilihyo ng isang Pilipino ang isang kamatch ang fingerprints sa isang Chinese citizen? [3:38] The strength of our citizenship system depends on the strength of the documents that establish citizenship in the first place. [3:47] Kung mahina ang front door, mahirap habulin ang problema kapag nakapasok na. [3:54] And this is not just about Joseph C. [3:57] The PSA itself has acknowledged hundreds, even more than a thousand, questionable or fraudulent birth registrations involving foreign nationals. [4:08] We already saw versions of this problem in the Alice Guo investigation. [4:12] So, ayaw natin matapos ang hearing na ito na ang sagot lang ay itong nangyari kay Joseph C. [4:22] Today, we want to close the loop. [4:25] Hindi pwedeng mas mabilis gumawa ng questionable identity kaysa mag-correct ng questionable identity ang gobyerno. [4:34] Di na ako nagulat dito sa kabikabilang raid ng mga POGO na isinasagawa ng ating gobyerno [4:40] kung saan ang nahuli ay mga foreigner na may mga peking passport. [4:46] Di na din ako nagulat sa balita na may isang pagawaan ng peking passport sa Sampaloc, Manila. [4:55] Ayon sa report ng GMA7, mistulang photocopying center sa labas pero sa loob, [5:02] peking birth certificate, peking passport, peking LTO certificate at kung ano pang diumanong opisyal na dokumento ang pinepeke. [5:13] So, today, I hope we can move beyond Joseph C., the person, and look at Joseph C., the case study. [5:19] Joseph C., bilang ehemplo ng anay na unti-unti tayong kinakain mula sa loob. [5:28] Ang mahalagang tanong, what do we change so that it cannot happen again? [5:33] Which gaps reflect ineffectual implementation on the ground? [5:39] And which gaps require legislation from Congress? [5:41] Because every government document is ultimately an expression of trust. [5:49] Kapag sinabi ng gobyerno na Pilipino ang isang tao, every other institution relies on that declaration. [5:55] If the foundation of that identity can be manipulated, then the vulnerability does not end with a civil registry. [6:05] It travels through that person throughout the entire government system. [6:10] And that is the loop we intend to close today. [6:15] Comsec, pakiacknowledge ang ating mga resource persons. [6:20] Good morning, Madam Chair. Magandang umaga po sa ating lahat. [6:23] From the Department of Justice, they are represented today by Attorney Paulito C. De Jesus. [6:31] Kindly acknowledge, please. Once called. Thank you. [6:34] And with him is from the Refugees and Stateless Persons Protection Unit, RSPPU, Head and State Council Attorney Melvin Suarez. [6:43] From the Department of Foreign Affairs, we have Assistant Secretary Ann Halandoon Lewis, DFA Office of Consular Affairs. [6:55] And with her is Assistant Secretary Ariel Peña Randa of the DFA Office of Protocol. [7:03] From the Bureau of Immigration, they are represented by Deputy Commissioner Attorney Joel Alejandro S. Naknak. [7:09] From the Office of the Solicitor General, today we have Assistant Solicitor General James L. Kundangan and Associate Solicitor General Eric Remigio Panga. [7:23] From the National Security Council, we have Deputy Director General Nestor C. Jericho. [7:29] From the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency, we have Acting Director Julius Tangred Managelon. [7:39] And with him is Legal Officer Titus Edison M. Kalaor. [7:47] From the National Bureau of Investigation, we have the Honorable Director Melvin Matibag, sir. [7:53] And with him this morning is Regional Director Renato Garbo III. [7:59] From the Philippine Statistics Authority, we have Director III of the Legal Service, Attorney Eleazar Ambatali. [8:04] And with him is Attorney Ansari S. Kosain from the Fraud Management Division, Registration Officer Emily R. Makario. [8:16] Attorney III of the Legal Service, Attorney Precious Angela Eugenio Paganahe. [8:20] And Registration Officer III, Ms. Jasmine Dizon. [8:25] From the Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Commission, we have Director and Executive Officer Angel Ay Madarang. [8:33] With him is Media Relations Officer Ms. Michelle Olaivar. [8:36] From the Philippine National Police, we have from the DIDM, Police Brigadier General Crescensio A. Landicho, Executive Officer. [8:48] And with him is Police Colonel Fitz A. Makariola. [8:55] Likewise, with them is Police Colonel Arturo P. Brual, Jr. [9:01] Morning, sir. [9:02] From the Intelligence Forces of the Armed Forces of the Philippines, we have Colonel Ferraeris confirmed to attend, Madam Chair, but he is not yet here. [9:12] Also confirmed, likewise, as of this morning, is Mr. Joseph C. [9:21] However, we have been informed by his counsel, Attorney Alma Malionga, of the Siguen Reina Montesilio and Onsakolo office, that he is in the emergency room of the Makati Med this morning. [9:34] What happened to him, Konsek? [9:37] Attorney Malionga? [9:39] Your Honor, I'd like to confirm that we did consult with Mr. Joseph C. yesterday. [9:44] In fact, we did have some discussions about this upcoming Senate hearing. [9:49] And on the basis of the belief, and even Mr. Joseph C.'s declared willingness to appear before the Senate, we confirmed our attendance. [9:59] Early this morning, however, Your Honor, Mr. C. called me up to say that he was in the emergency room of Makati Med. [10:09] He had been feeling unwell since last night. [10:13] Maybe part of it is the stress. [10:15] The fact that he had been incarcerated for more than 491 days, Your Honor, and it's just been three weeks, less than three weeks since he has been released, Your Honor. [10:23] And while he was incarcerated, he did undergo some surgical procedure, Your Honor. [10:29] I have not been in a position to state right now what has been happening, except to say that Mr. C. does honor and respect the proceedings before the Senate. [10:41] He had prepared himself to appear. [10:43] But this has happened, Your Honor, we endeavor and commit to advise the committee about the specific circumstances and submit whatever documentation may be required, Your Honor, just to show and demonstrate, Your Honor, that there is no condemnation's refusal to appear. [11:04] There was, in fact, as far as this representation is concerned, a genuine desire to participate, Your Honor. [11:12] Thank you. [11:12] Thank you, Attorney Malionga. [11:14] So, kung pwede pong mag-provide ng medical certificate mula dun sa attending doctor sa Makati Medical Emergency Room. [11:21] Yes, sure. [11:21] And then, Komsec, pakipa-confirm na lang sa ating Senate Clinic kung ano man yung protocols between our doctors here at yung mga doktor sa Makati Medical para lang i-confirm yung condition, Mr. C. [11:33] Yes, Madam Chair. [11:34] Salamat, Komsec. [11:35] Please proceed. [11:35] And finally, Madam Chair, we have from the Philippine Center on Transnational Crime, Attorney Baltazar C. Asadon. [11:44] That is all for this morning, Madam Chair. [11:45] Good morning. [11:47] Salamat, Komsec. [11:48] Paki-administer yung oath sa mga hindi pa nakapanumpa? [11:53] For those who have not yet been administered the oath, kindly stand up, please, and raise your right hand. [12:01] Do you swear to tell the truth? [12:03] One moment. [12:03] Do you swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth in the Senate investigation? [12:14] You may sit down, please. [12:16] Madam Chair, the oath has been administered. [12:18] Salamat, Komsec. [12:20] All right, so let's begin our last hearing on this issue. [12:29] Magsimulo po tayo kina Attorney Naknak sa Bureau of Immigration. [12:33] So, sir, nasabi na po ng bureau noon na yung fingerprints ni Cheng Zhong Zhen ay matched ng fingerprints ni Joseph C. [12:45] na existing na po sa BI records bilang Chinese national. [12:49] Kinoconfirm niyo po ba yung statement na iyon ngayong umaga? [12:55] Yes, sir. [12:55] We confirm. [12:58] Based on the reports of our fingerprint examiners, [13:03] mamatch nga po yung fingerprints niya. [13:05] At kailan po unang pumasok sa BI database yung fingerprints ni Cheng Zhong Zhen? [13:10] Well, under our records, Madam Chair, [13:15] he is an applicant po ng Returning Resident Visa 13E way back in 1989. [13:24] And subsequently, the Permanent Resident Visa was approved in February of 1989. [13:31] And later on, he also applied for under RA 7919. [13:41] Ito po yung Alien Social Integration Program which appears to be unrecorded March of 1996 na po. [13:52] So, with this, yung biometric records niya po ay nakita at nakapture po ng bureau. [14:01] So, yun yung sana isang follow-up question ko. [14:03] So, at that time, yung biometrics po niya kasama yung fingerprints ay pumasok na rin po sa registry ng bureau? [14:11] Yes, Madam Chair. [14:11] Yung pong fingerprints na iyon, yun po yung naihambi niyo sa fingerprints naman nung Joseph C. [14:19] Yes, Madam Chair. [14:23] Noong po na-report ng ating counterpart intelligence agencies ang kanyang presence as Joseph C. [14:31] Nakapag-provide po sila ng fingerprint. [14:34] At yun po ay kinumpair doon sa records niya nung nag-apply siya ng Alien Social Integration Program under 7919. [14:44] At nag-match nga po. [14:45] Aside from that, Madam Chair, the ACR card, yung kanyang card na Alien Certificate of Registration, 10 fingerprint chart, was also compared to the NBI records at nag-match din po, Madam Chair. [15:06] So, may cross-referencing na po. [15:08] Hindi lang sa pagitan ng dalawang sets of fingerprints na nasa BI, kundi yung nasa NBI rin. [15:13] And again, match. [15:15] Yes, Madam Chair. [15:16] So, hanggang ngayong umaga, wala po kayong duda na si Cheng Jong-Zhen ay siya rin si Joseph C. [15:22] For our records with the Bureau, Madam Chair, we don't have any conflict. [15:28] We confirm, Madam Chair. [15:30] So, ayon naman po sa PSA na tatanoyin ko rin mamaya, 2007, ang year ng registration ng birth certificate ni Joseph C. [15:43] So, kayo naman, ang hawak nyo ay yung biometrics ni Cheng Jong-Zhen, aside from pa yung cross-referencing sa data ng NBI. [15:55] So, at some point, within or across agencies, ang gobyerno ay may isang tao sa records natin, kayo sa executive, bilang Chinese national. [16:09] And apparently, sa isa pang government system, bilang Pilipino naman, kailan po unang nakita ito, either ng bureau nyo or ng government agencies in general? [16:21] Kailan po nakita, unang nakita yung conflict na ito? [16:24] Una pong nakita, ma'am, nung Madam Chair, when the intelligence community reported to us that there's such a person as Joseph C. [16:37] And requested for a confirmatory cross-referencing of the fingerprints. [16:42] This was in 2025, before we were able to coordinate with other government agencies for his eventual arrests, Madam Chair. [16:55] Ang tagal po, no? [16:57] So, ito lang, to 2025, anun lamang hinuli ng BI, si Mr. C, nung pabalik siya sa ating bansa. [17:05] And yet, 1989 pa lang, may datos na ang BI dahil sa returning resident visa nila. [17:13] 1996 muli dahil sa RA 7919. [17:19] And then, may cross-referencing pa sa data ng NBI. [17:23] And yet, 2025 lang, unang nakita yung conflict. [17:28] That's a gap of 89, 99, 0919. [17:32] 36 years. [17:34] Walang ano, walang nagparang short circuit anywhere sa loob ng government system, [17:40] whether sa isang agency or across agencies. [17:43] na, oops, bakit meron tayong dalawang set ng identity para sa iisang tao? [17:49] What accounts for that 36-year lag? [17:53] Madam Chair, the records of the BI remains as records of the BI. [17:58] And unless there are reports or requests coming from other government agencies for us to cross-reference, [18:06] then that's the only time we will be able to determine whether this individual is the same as the one in our records. [18:12] Saan po dapat manggaling yung request? [18:15] In the case of the other government agencies like the AFP, NBI, [18:20] if they have some requests, Madam Chair, [18:24] we can immediately conduct the study and cross-referencing of this fingerprints. [18:31] Baka, sir, yung mga executive agencies natin could afford to be more proactive, [18:36] lalo na kung earlier na may lumalabas na kaduda-duda na apparently two sets of identities for the same person, [18:44] na identified as the same person mismo sa fingerprints nyo at ibang biometrics. [18:49] Ang nasa likod po nung tanong kong ito na bakit hindi nakita earlier, [18:54] ay, so lumalabas po walang system pa na nagko-cross-check ng biometrics ng foreign nationals vis-a-vis Filipino identities. [19:04] Wala pang gano'n? [19:06] As of this time, unfortunately, Madam Chair, wala po. [19:10] Like when they apply, for instance, for registration of their birth, late registration, [19:18] wala pong reports coming from other government agencies for us to cross-check whether that applicant is a foreign national or not. [19:24] That's amazing. Couple of years after na-conclude yung Alice Guo case, [19:32] and then yun na nga po, 36 years after nasimulang pumasok sa databases ng gobyerno, [19:39] ang tungkol kay Chen Zhongzhen, it shouldn't have taken that long. [19:43] At ito nga, ito po yung gusto kong maintindihan or ma-reassure, ma-reassure natin yung publiko, [19:50] kung sakali gawin ito ulit ng iba namang tao bukas, [19:56] mahuhuli na ba siya automatically or makakalusot pa rin siya sa gaps? [20:02] Unfortunately, Madam Chair, unless it is reported to us, we will not be able to account it. [20:06] But I know, Madam Chair, that there are other individuals situated in the same predicament as what Mr. C is now having right now. [20:18] But unless all the government agencies coordinate and perhaps research on this personality, [20:25] that's the only time that we can account it, Madam Chair. [20:29] Well, I think hindi si Mr. C ang pinaka-nasa predicament, yung bayan natin, yung gobyerno po natin. [20:36] And yung matter ng coordination, ilang taon na pong pinag-uusapan niya dito sa Senado. [20:44] At in fairness sa executive, sa inyo, lalo na nung na-highlight yung kaso po ni Alice Guo [20:51] at yung buong problema ng POGOs na kinalalagyan niya. [20:55] Just to push the envelope a bit more, halimbawa po, [20:59] nasa BI database na ng BI, yung fingerprints ng isang Chinese national. [21:04] Tapos later, that same person acquires a PSA, birth certificate, under a Filipino name, [21:13] then applies for a passport. [21:15] May mag-alarm ba anywhere in government? [21:20] Unfortunately, Madam Chair, unless the PSA will report to us that there's some applicants for late registration [21:27] and request for cross-matching, then that's the only time that we will be able to accommodate, Madam Chair. [21:33] I think ang lumalabas po dito sa conversation natin, Sir, ay sa dami na mga ahensyang involved, [21:39] na babanggit nyo na po NBI, AFP, PSA, bukod po sa BI, [21:44] dapat automatically nagbuo na ng coordination system para bawasan yung sakit ng ulo nyo [21:52] and then bawasan yung sakit ng ulo ng buong gobyerno at ng buong bayan. [21:58] At dahil wala pang ganyang automatic alarm na masi-set off kapag mayroong already illogical na nangyayari. [22:09] Now, what prevents? [22:13] What prevents BI, PSA, DFA even, para magbuo ng isang secure na biometric conflict check? [22:21] So, hindi naman kailangan ibigay ninyo sa isa't isa yung buong database nyo. [22:27] Pero, ang kailangan lang siguro ay sasabihin yung sistema ang bubuoy nyo na, [22:31] teka, these biometrics already belong to another identity. [22:36] So, ano po yung kakailanganin para kayong mga agencies na dapat nagko-coordinate, [22:41] na nga kapag cross-check, ay makabuo ng ganyang klaseng system? [22:45] Well, it merits, Madam Chair, a good coordination between the government agencies [22:50] and with the technological advancement, perhaps we can take advantage of having a system [22:56] that will integrate the components or the information, databases of various agencies [23:06] so that ultimately we will be able to have a determination as to who these people are, Madam Chair. [23:14] Pinag-aaralan nyo na po ba, whether within BI or kasama ng ibang agencies, [23:19] kung anong mga teknolohiyang iyan na dapat nyong iseta para may agad na cross-referencing, [23:27] cross-checking between your data sets? [23:30] Yes, Madam Chair, we have some studies on this and I hope we will be able to present it [23:36] and the secure funding for the project, Madam Chair. [23:40] Well, speaking of funding, panahon na ng budget debates dito sa Senado, [23:44] kung hindi nyo pa kahit dalawang taon na mula nung alisgo, [23:47] kung hindi nyo pa ni-request yan sa DBM, [23:50] kung hindi pa yan napasok sa General Appropriations Bill, [23:55] ang habol lang dyan ay sa period of amendments dito [23:58] and mas walang assurances dyan. [24:01] Pero at the very least, i-expect po ng committee, [24:04] ipasok nyo yung recommended system na iyan dito sa recommendations ng ating committee report [24:10] para kahit 36 years late na po tayo, makahabol naman po tayo, sir. [24:19] May capability ba ang BI to run a systematic cross-match [24:23] and determine whether there are other foreign nationals sa database po ninyo [24:28] na ang biometrics ay maaring associated sa Philippine identities? [24:34] Right now, Madam Chair, we have that capability [24:37] provided they submit to us the samples of the fingerprints, Madam Chair. [24:45] Sino magsasubmit po? [24:46] If other government agencies will request or require us to cross-match, [24:51] Madam Chair, we can provide the necessary data. [24:55] Bakit hindi na lang yung BI mag-request sa kanila? [24:57] Para hindi kayo naghihintayan or nagtuturoan? [25:01] That can be done, Madam Chair, [25:03] for as long as we know the person to be cross-matched. [25:06] Baka makarinig din tayo mamaya sa NBI and the other agencies about that [25:10] kung ano na yung mga possible laman ng mga requests [25:15] na sige, pwedeng sila ang maunang magbigay sa inyo. [25:20] And then, well, ito related sa isang pinag-usapan natin kanina. [25:23] Kung wala pa ang BI na legal authority or technical capability, [25:28] ano mismo ang kailangan ninyo from Congress? [25:30] Or nasabi nyo na ba yun kanina? [25:33] Well, aside from the technical assistance, Madam Chair, [25:37] we would appreciate if there will be some sort of a law that will be passed [25:42] that will give authority for the border control, [25:47] especially that of BI, [25:49] to coordinate with other government agencies [25:51] in effecting or coming up with this system [25:56] and be applied to all the government agencies [25:59] for us to be able to cross-match and cross-reference fingerprints. [26:04] And aside from fingerprints, the personality piece, Madam Chair. [26:09] Kailangan pa ba ng batas yan? [26:11] Hindi ba kayo mandated ngayon pa lamang to coordinate [26:14] from border control to BI Central at saka sa ibang ahensya? [26:20] Kung kailangan pa saan? [26:21] Saan ang batas nyo kailangan ng amyenda? [26:25] Well, Madam Chair, we really coordinate with other government agencies. [26:29] But then it will be better if the Bureau will be strengthened [26:36] because we are co-equal departments or co-equal bureaus. [26:41] So if we talk about border control, [26:44] it would be better if the BI will be given the authority [26:49] to manage all of these things, Madam Chair. [26:52] Saan ang batas nyo particular nakikita dapat i-strengthen ang BI [26:56] at particularly yung border control? [26:59] We have a pending proposal for the modernization bill [27:03] for the Bureau of Immigration. [27:05] And perhaps you can look into this, Madam Chair, [27:07] and put up all of these provisions in that proposal. [27:11] Na-file na po iyan dito sa Senate? [27:14] We have a pending bill proposal, Madam Chair. [27:17] Also with the Congress, Madam Chair. [27:20] May authors na rin kayo sa House? [27:23] Yes, Madam Chair. [27:25] Sa Senate, wala pa? [27:26] I suppose there are, Madam Chair. [27:28] We will look into the records. [27:29] Okay, please do. [27:31] Para ma-follow up po namin, [27:33] mapagtulungan namin i-follow up yun dun sa kumite [27:35] kung saan nyo ni-refer yung bill na yun. [27:38] And lastly from now, [27:43] sinabi po kasi ng BI nung previous hearing [27:45] na may ilang national security issues [27:48] kaugnay kay Joseph C. [27:51] Pwede nyo po bang i-run through ulit [27:54] yung mga isyong iyon para sa kumite? [27:57] Yes, Madam Chair. [27:59] As personally, Madam Chair, [28:01] I can see some issues like [28:03] we have identified and discovered identity fraud. [28:07] Ito po ay pagnadakaw ng pagkatawa ng ibang tao [28:12] at nagkukunwa rin yung Pilipino. [28:15] Pangalawa po po ay [28:16] we can see that there is a big business [28:21] being handled by Mr. C. [28:23] So he controls critical national assets [28:28] which can affect our economy, Madam Chair. [28:33] Third, it can be illustrated, Madam Chair, [28:35] that there are security institutional infiltration [28:40] just like what has been reported [28:41] that he was even accepted [28:43] as an auxiliary commodore [28:47] of the Coast Guard in 2018. [28:51] Fourth, Madam Chair, [28:52] there is a foreign political alignment [28:55] since it was reported by our community [29:00] that in 2021, [29:03] he attended the Communist Party of China [29:06] and World Political Party Summit [29:08] representing the Philippines Silk Road [29:11] Chamber of International Commerce. [29:14] So this indicates some sort of political alignment [29:18] with other countries, Madam Chair. [29:20] And fifth and last, Madam Chair, [29:23] I would say that there is judicial vulnerability [29:25] on the part of our judicial system [29:29] because of the cases [29:34] of obvious corpus filed [29:36] before several courts [29:40] and it even went through the Supreme Court, Madam Chair. [29:45] Marami salamat, Attorney Natnak. [29:49] Importante yung enumeration nyo ng issues [29:51] kahit sa pagsegue natin sa NBI [29:54] at yung ibang mga ahensya [29:55] para mas mapindaw nung committee [30:00] yung findings [30:00] and then mapagbasihan ito [30:02] ng mga recommendations. [30:05] So you enumerated identity fraud [30:08] yung epekto sa ekonomiya [30:11] dahil critical national assets [30:13] ang dinidevelop [30:17] or ine-extract [30:18] nung big business [30:19] na hawak ni Mr. C. [30:21] Tapos yung [30:22] security institutional infiltration [30:25] lalo na sa Philippine Coast Guard [30:28] pero isang pinag-aaralan din [30:30] nung ating national security sector [30:34] sa iba pang mga institusyon [30:36] ng gobyerno [30:37] and then [30:38] foreign political alignment [30:41] and very timely [30:43] lalo na sa konteksto [30:44] nang hindi pa natin nare-resolve [30:46] yung dynamics natin [30:47] sa West Philippine Sea [30:49] and last but not the least [30:51] yung judicial vulnerability [30:53] na sinabi nyo. [30:54] So saramat po [30:55] para doon [30:56] mababalikan po natin [30:58] ang mga puntong ito [30:59] I'm sure throughout this hearing. [31:02] Dako na po ako [31:02] sa National Bureau of Investigation [31:04] kay Director Matibag. [31:07] So yaman din lang [31:08] na nababalita nga po [31:10] itong katakot-takot [31:11] na mga [31:11] dami na mga foreigner [31:13] na may peking [31:14] Filipino passport pala [31:16] pwede nyo po bang [31:17] i-walk through [31:18] yung kumite [31:19] sa [31:19] investigasyon so far [31:21] na sinasagawa ng bureau? [31:24] Good morning ma'am. [31:26] So una po [31:26] just to [31:28] put on record [31:28] noong [31:29] bago [31:31] after pa naman po [31:32] ng inyong privilege speech [31:34] about the Alice Go 2.0 [31:36] we conducted an investigation [31:38] on that personality [31:41] her name is [31:45] Ligong Basel [31:46] yun na po yung [31:47] naging Filipino name niya [31:48] so itong si Ligong Basel [31:50] she was [31:51] arrested [31:52] in the airport [31:53] carrying [31:54] postal ID [31:57] and the birth certificate [31:59] Filipino birth certificate [32:01] at hindi po peke [32:02] yung birth certificate [32:03] ano po [32:03] it is a birth certificate [32:05] issued by the PSA [32:07] talaga po nga [32:07] totoo yung papel [32:09] totoo yung mga [32:10] watermarks dito [32:11] but only to find out [32:13] that this person [32:14] is a [32:15] Chinese citizen [32:16] hindi po siya talaga [32:17] Pilipino [32:18] she availed of the [32:19] late registration [32:21] certificate of life [32:22] birth registration [32:23] yung pong [32:24] which is allowed by law [32:25] so [32:26] saan niya po ito in avail [32:27] she availed it from [32:28] Santa Cruz [32:29] Dabao del Sur [32:30] and [32:31] because of that [32:32] we issued an order [32:34] to our regional office [32:35] in [32:35] Mindanao [32:37] kaya nandito po yung [32:38] ating regional director [32:39] to investigate [32:40] and nakita nga po [32:42] natin [32:43] na may [32:43] may ginawang [32:45] proseso [32:46] na nakakuha [32:46] itong birth certificate [32:48] itong tao na ito [32:49] which she used [32:50] to obtain [32:51] other [32:52] government [32:53] identity [32:55] na naging [32:55] Pilipino na siya [32:56] so [32:57] based on our [32:58] investigation [33:00] even NBI clearance [33:01] she was able to [33:02] to have an NBI clearance [33:03] at nakapagrenew pa siya [33:04] so the problem [33:06] is [33:06] because when you [33:07] get an NBI clearance [33:09] ano po ba yung [33:09] hinihingi namin [33:10] na dokumento [33:11] kung ikaw ay [33:12] first time applicant [33:13] we ask for a [33:14] government ID [33:15] and the birth certificate [33:17] so we look at its face [33:19] the valid to [33:20] papasok siya sa system [33:22] na [33:23] siya ay [33:24] Pilipino [33:25] at may issue [33:26] ano siya ng [33:26] birth certificate [33:27] siguro doon na po [33:28] pumapasok yung [33:29] sinasabi nyo [33:31] wala bang cross-referencing [33:32] hindi ba na [33:32] mabalidate [33:33] ano po [33:33] so it looks like [33:35] hindi tayo [33:35] interconnected [33:37] digitally [33:39] para magawa [33:40] natin ito [33:41] so saan nanggaling [33:42] yung problema [33:43] nanggaling yung problema [33:43] because this person [33:45] was able to [33:46] to obtain [33:47] a certificate of [33:48] life birth [33:49] na Pilipino na siya [33:50] and it's not that [33:51] simple [33:52] ang nangyari na [33:53] she was granted [33:54] all the privileges [33:55] of a natural born [33:56] Pilipino [33:57] hindi siya kailangan [33:58] ipagbuntis [33:59] ng siyam na bondito [34:00] at ipanganak [34:01] ng mga magulang [34:02] na totoo Pilipino [34:03] o kaya mag-apply siya [34:05] ng proseso [34:05] para maging Pilipino [34:06] shortcut lang [34:08] mag-apply lang siya [34:08] sa isang maliit [34:09] na municipality [34:11] at nakakuha na siya [34:13] ng birth certificate [34:14] so after that [34:16] in-investigate po namin [34:17] nakita namin [34:17] sumulat kami [34:18] sa ibang mga [34:19] ahensya rin [34:19] ito na po siguro [34:20] mam yung hinahanap nyo [34:21] na coordination [34:23] unfortunately [34:24] some of the agencies [34:25] will give the reason [34:27] of data privacy [34:29] which is [34:31] kahit po sa kapwa [34:31] government agency [34:32] at saka sabi po kasi [34:34] from our perspective [34:35] if it's an investigation [34:37] of a [34:38] parently of crime [34:39] hindi po dapat [34:40] maging depensa [34:42] yung [34:42] data privacy [34:47] at saka director [34:48] kapag naman request [34:49] ng isang ahensya [34:50] sa ibang ahensya [34:51] it's not as if [34:51] ilalathalan nyo [34:53] na sa publiko [34:53] sa media [34:54] limited po [34:55] ang handling nyo [34:56] ng information [34:57] po na iyon [34:57] di po ba [34:58] so nakita namin [35:00] meron din po siyang [35:01] T number [35:02] na nakuha namin [35:04] through the [35:05] online [35:06] na meron siya [35:07] so may active siya [35:08] na T number [35:09] at active yun [35:10] ibig sabihin [35:10] nagtatransact siya [35:11] may ginagawa siyang [35:13] mga transaction [35:14] so anyway [35:15] that is the alis go to [35:16] yung si Lingo Basel [35:18] nga po na yan [35:19] ano po yung apelido [35:20] Lingo Basel [35:21] yun na po yung [35:22] Pilipino na [35:23] pangalan po niya [35:24] pero because of that [35:26] prior to that [35:27] pero di po kami [35:28] kinasuhan [35:29] na sa North Cotobato [35:30] because there are [35:30] two municipalities [35:32] there in North Cotobato [35:33] na nakakuha [35:35] na nag-i-issue rin [35:36] ng mga live birth certificate [35:38] so pending po yung [35:39] kaso na yan [35:40] with the [35:40] regional trial court [35:42] in North Cotobato [35:43] and right now [35:43] there's also [35:44] seven cases [35:46] na kinasuhan namin [35:47] yung civil registry [35:48] ng Santa Cruz [35:51] Davo del Sur [35:52] this is very alarming [35:55] because the data [35:56] coming from PSA also [35:58] is there are about [35:59] 50,000 personalities [36:01] so a bail of late registration [36:03] but I have to caution [36:04] hindi naman ibig sabihin [36:05] itong lahat ng 50,000 [36:07] na ito ay may problema [36:09] siguro [36:10] kasi marami din po [36:11] kababayan [36:12] in good faith [36:13] and for valid reasons [36:15] naglilate register [36:16] So because of this [36:17] ma'am [36:18] I issued [36:18] memorandum [36:19] circular number [36:20] 22 [36:20] ordering all the [36:22] regional offices [36:23] to conduct [36:23] an audit [36:24] and investigation [36:25] of all those [36:26] who availed [36:27] of late registration [36:28] so ang ginagawa po [36:30] ng aming mga regional [36:31] director ngayon [36:31] nagre-request dun [36:32] sa mga local [36:33] civil registry [36:34] na i-provide kami [36:37] ng names [36:37] specifically focusing [36:39] on 16 years old [36:41] pataas [36:41] from 2016 [36:43] up to the present [36:45] because yung [36:46] pong nag-avail [36:47] ng late registration [36:48] na sinasabi kong [36:48] about 50,000 [36:49] is from the period [36:51] about 2016 [36:52] to 2023 [36:53] or 2024 [36:55] ma'am [36:55] so in that way [36:57] makita po namin [36:58] at siguro [37:00] doon po papasok [37:01] yung [37:02] interplay [37:03] that the [37:04] Bureau of Immigration [37:05] kaya herpas [37:05] yung mga suspected [37:07] natin [37:07] eh [37:08] pwede po natin [37:09] siguro ipa-validate [37:11] yung biometrics po nila [37:12] kagaya po nito [37:13] itong binabagit [37:14] yung alis go [37:14] 2.1 na to [37:15] noong tinitingnan [37:17] yung entry [37:17] walang record [37:18] ng marriage [37:19] or yung parents [37:20] walang record [37:21] na hindi lang yung kasal [37:22] wala mismo yung [37:23] personality [37:24] mukhang invento [37:26] talaga yung [37:26] pangalan [37:27] nung mga magulang [37:29] parang ghost [37:30] ghost po talaga [37:31] parang uso yung ghost [37:33] unfortunately [37:34] ako [37:35] so unfortunately [37:36] so [37:37] so ma'am [37:37] established talaga [37:38] and until now [37:39] I think that [37:40] this person [37:41] nakakulong siya [37:43] sa Bureau of Immigration [37:45] ito yung problem [37:46] natin ma'am [37:47] and I think [37:47] the problem is [37:50] yung [37:51] offense na ipapail [37:52] natin [37:53] falsification [37:54] or [37:55] doon naman sa [37:56] ano [37:56] yung [37:57] Republic Act [37:57] 3019 [37:58] kasi may [37:58] graphed corruption [37:59] issue po tayo [38:00] rito [38:00] nakapag-bail [38:02] yan [38:03] so the point [38:04] is habang [38:04] nakabail [38:05] yan at nakalabas [38:06] nung mga tao [38:06] na to [38:06] which clearly [38:08] established [38:08] natin 100% [38:10] with certainty [38:11] na hindi naman [38:12] talaga [38:12] Pilipino [38:12] itong mga to [38:13] they are [38:14] benefiting [38:15] dun sa pagiging [38:17] Pilipino nila [38:17] because of the [38:18] letterization [38:19] all the benefits [38:20] of a [38:20] Pilipino [38:20] citizen [38:21] so ngayon po [38:22] pwede silang [38:23] bumili ng lupa [38:24] nakapag-degosyo [38:25] sila ng reserve [38:26] sa mga Pilipino [38:28] pwede pa silang [38:29] bumoto [38:30] pwede pang [38:31] kumandida [38:31] ito [38:32] may nanalo [38:33] na nga [38:33] dati [38:33] meron ka pong [38:34] nanalo [38:35] so [38:35] siguro po [38:37] the process [38:39] namin [38:40] ang aming ginagawa [38:41] ngayon na [38:41] investigin [38:42] bakita namin [38:42] ito [38:43] we will make [38:43] recommendations [38:44] na [38:45] baka [38:46] hindi ko po alam [38:47] kung tama ba [38:48] na tapusin [38:49] natin yung [38:49] kaso [38:50] na out in [38:51] bill sila [38:52] they're getting [38:52] the benefits [38:53] of the [38:53] Pilipino [38:54] napag-negosyo [38:55] sila [38:57] everything [38:58] or baka dapat [39:00] excluded natin sila [39:02] they should be banned [39:03] from entering [39:04] our country [39:05] so [39:06] those are the [39:08] challenges [39:08] but on our end [39:09] of the law enforcement [39:11] and investigation [39:11] we will definitely [39:13] establish [39:14] medyo mahaba [39:16] siguro pong [39:16] proseso [39:17] makikita namin [39:17] kung sino yung [39:19] mga tao na ito [39:20] in fact we were able [39:21] to identify [39:21] and file cases [39:22] to some of them [39:23] pero tingin ko po [39:25] maliit na [39:26] portion [39:26] because it's true [39:29] from your opening [39:29] statement [39:30] marami po [39:31] kaming [39:31] mga [39:32] nauhuli [39:33] nagpapakilala [39:33] ng Pilipino [39:34] may dokumento [39:35] na Pilipino [39:36] pero hindi [39:37] marunong [39:38] magsalita [39:39] ng [39:40] salita [39:41] ng Pilipino [39:41] even the [39:42] local [39:42] dialects [39:42] natin [39:43] so [39:44] malaki po [39:45] problema [39:46] and [39:46] that's the [39:48] reason why [39:49] we have [39:49] this [39:49] memorandum [39:50] order [39:50] 22 [39:51] which will [39:51] I will [39:51] share to [39:52] the [39:52] committee [39:52] para po [39:54] ito po [39:54] yung [39:54] basis [39:55] natin [39:55] but [39:56] rest assured [39:56] with the [39:57] NBI [39:57] hindi po [39:58] dapat [39:58] matapos [39:59] dito [39:59] tingin ko [40:01] po [40:02] ako [40:03] nagpapasalamat [40:04] that you're [40:04] hearing this [40:05] because [40:05] this is a [40:07] major [40:07] national [40:07] security [40:08] issue [40:08] hindi po [40:09] natin [40:09] alam [40:10] kung yung [40:11] mga [40:11] nakapag [40:11] avail [40:12] ng [40:12] citizenship [40:13] ng [40:13] Pilipino [40:14] through [40:14] late [40:14] registration [40:16] eh kung [40:17] nasaan [40:17] na ngayon [40:17] they might [40:18] be [40:18] occupying [40:19] sensitive [40:19] position [40:20] right now [40:20] na hindi [40:21] dapat [40:22] and this [40:22] is also [40:23] a concern [40:23] with our [40:24] foreign [40:24] counterparts [40:25] I had [40:25] meetings [40:26] with them [40:26] na [40:27] maaring [40:28] baka [40:28] na-issue [40:28] din po [40:29] nila [40:29] ng mga [40:30] dokumento [40:32] para makapasok [40:33] sa kanilang [40:33] bansa [40:34] thinking [40:34] that they [40:34] are [40:35] Pilipino [40:35] citizens [40:36] tapos [40:36] hindi [40:37] naman [40:37] po [40:37] bala [40:37] Tama [40:38] no? [40:39] Hindi [40:39] lang [40:39] sa [40:39] Pilipinas [40:40] naabuso [40:41] kapag [40:42] ma-assume [40:43] falsely [40:44] ang [40:44] Filipino [40:44] identity [40:45] sa buong [40:45] mundo [40:46] bilang [40:46] Filipino [40:47] citizen [40:47] And [40:48] this is [40:48] also [40:49] alarming [40:49] because [40:50] pwede [40:51] maging [40:51] reason [40:52] ito [40:52] sa atin [40:52] sa chair [40:53] classification [40:54] natin [40:54] with yung [40:56] terroristic [40:58] and [40:58] human [41:00] trafficking [41:00] issues [41:01] baka [41:01] maging [41:01] issue [41:02] po [41:02] sa atin [41:03] And [41:05] for one [41:06] yung issue [41:06] ng human [41:07] trafficking [41:07] naging [41:08] relevant [41:08] sa kaso [41:09] nga [41:09] ni Alice [41:09] Guo [41:10] sa buong [41:11] system [41:12] ng [41:12] POGOs [41:13] Bago [41:15] ko [41:15] ituloy [41:16] yung [41:16] mga [41:16] tanong [41:17] kay [41:18] Director [41:19] Matibag [41:20] Just [41:21] thinking [41:21] aloud [41:22] Sir [41:23] Attorney [41:24] Naknak [41:24] tulad [41:25] nung [41:25] sa NBI [41:26] meron [41:27] po silang [41:27] Memorandum [41:28] Circular [41:28] 22 [41:29] i-audit [41:30] lahat [41:30] ng [41:31] nag-avail [41:31] ng [41:31] late [41:32] registration [41:32] of a certain [41:33] age [41:34] pataas [41:34] from a [41:35] certain [41:35] year [41:35] pataas [41:36] Just [41:37] thinking [41:37] aloud [41:37] po [41:38] Is it [41:39] possible [41:39] na [41:40] dahil [41:41] na-identify [41:42] na yung [41:43] chain [41:43] ng pag-assume [41:44] ng Filipino [41:45] identity [41:46] ng isang [41:47] Chinese [41:48] national [41:49] ay nagsimula [41:50] sa [41:50] ACR [41:51] I don't [41:54] know kung [41:54] ano yung [41:55] volume [41:55] ng [41:55] ACR [41:56] na nasa [41:57] data [41:57] base [41:58] ng [41:58] BI [41:59] but [41:59] is it [42:00] also [42:00] possible [42:00] na [42:01] mag-institute [42:02] kayo [42:03] ng [42:03] katulad [42:04] or [42:04] parallel [42:05] na [42:05] process [42:06] na [42:06] just [42:07] to [42:07] double [42:07] check [42:08] na [42:08] lahat [42:08] nung [42:08] nag-file [42:09] ng [42:10] ACR [42:11] at [42:11] nag-grant [42:12] nito [42:12] ay hindi [42:13] at the [42:14] same [42:15] time [42:15] or [42:15] later [42:16] through [42:17] late [42:17] registration [42:18] of birth [42:18] certificate [42:19] ay kasabay [42:20] nag-assume [42:21] ng [42:22] diumanong [42:22] Filipino [42:23] identity [42:23] Your [42:24] thoughts [42:24] on that [42:25] Yes [42:26] Madam [42:26] Chair [42:27] we will [42:27] have to [42:27] study [42:28] that [42:28] and [42:30] we will [42:30] have [42:31] to [42:31] come up [42:32] with [42:32] memorandum [42:34] circular [42:34] as well [42:34] if [42:34] necessary [42:35] to [42:36] address [42:36] the [42:36] issue [42:36] of [42:37] adoption [42:37] at [42:39] least [42:39] for [42:39] considering [42:39] that [42:40] you [42:40] know [42:41] the [42:41] technical [42:41] of it [42:42] better [42:42] than [42:42] me [42:42] pero [42:43] naisip [42:43] ko [42:43] lang [42:44] kung [42:44] mayroong [42:44] proactive [42:45] na [42:46] isinasagawang [42:46] proseso [42:47] ng NBI [42:48] baka may [42:48] appropriate [42:49] din [42:49] for [42:49] BI [42:50] given [42:50] yung [42:51] details [42:51] ng [42:51] kasong [42:52] ito [42:53] and [42:53] moving [42:53] forward [42:54] dun [42:54] sa [42:54] rekomendasyon [42:55] ng [42:55] Komite [42:55] ano [42:55] yung [42:55] mga [42:56] reforms [42:57] na [42:57] dapat [42:57] both [42:57] on [42:57] the [42:58] executive [42:58] side [42:58] and [42:59] then [42:59] yung [42:59] legislative [43:00] na [43:00] dapat [43:01] namin [43:01] gawin [43:01] on [43:01] RM [43:02] salamat [43:03] po [43:03] so [43:04] back [43:04] to [43:04] director [43:04] Matibag [43:05] mayat-mayat [43:07] nababanggit [43:08] yung [43:08] Pogo [43:08] pwede [43:09] nyo [43:09] po bang [43:09] i-walk [43:10] through [43:10] din [43:10] ang [43:10] Komite [43:10] sa [43:11] recent [43:11] raid [43:12] nyo [43:12] laban [43:13] sa [43:13] Pogo [43:13] sa [43:13] Subic [43:14] interesado [43:17] din [43:17] po [43:17] sa [43:17] Grande [43:18] Island [43:18] na [43:19] yan [43:19] dahil [43:19] nung [43:20] investigation [43:21] natin [43:21] sa [43:21] Alice [43:22] Guo [43:22] dun [43:24] palang [43:24] nabalitaan [43:25] na [43:25] namin [43:25] ng [43:25] Komite [43:26] ang [43:26] Grande [43:27] Island [43:27] na [43:28] isang [43:29] R&R [43:29] venue [43:31] daw [43:31] ng [43:32] mga [43:32] Pogo [43:33] bosses [43:33] with [43:35] your [43:36] permission [43:36] let me [43:36] share [43:37] first [43:37] because [43:37] after [43:38] I [43:38] issued [43:38] the [43:38] memorandum [43:39] circular [43:39] we [43:40] have [43:40] monitored [43:41] in [43:41] the [43:41] dark [43:41] web [43:41] the [43:42] reaction [43:42] of [43:42] the [43:43] Chinese [43:44] community [43:44] sa [43:45] dark [43:46] web [43:46] na [43:47] naglagay [43:48] sila [43:49] ng [43:49] warning [43:50] attention [43:50] Chinese [43:51] in the [43:52] Philippines [43:52] the [43:52] Philippines [43:53] NBI [43:54] has [43:54] ordered [43:55] a [43:55] nationwide [43:55] investigation [43:56] into [43:57] fake [43:57] birth [43:57] certificate [43:58] and [43:59] citizens [43:59] documents [44:00] Chinese [44:01] warnings [44:01] na po [44:01] yung [44:02] iba [44:02] so [44:03] I had [44:03] to [44:03] get [44:03] the [44:04] translation [44:04] pero [44:04] it [44:05] looks [44:05] like [44:05] they're [44:06] also [44:06] aware [44:07] so [44:08] parang [44:08] may [44:08] warning [44:08] na [44:09] dun [44:09] sa [44:09] mga [44:09] nakapag [44:10] abil [44:10] dito [44:11] at [44:12] saka [44:12] hindi [44:12] lang [44:13] sila [44:13] aware [44:13] concerned [44:14] sila [44:15] so [44:16] bakit [44:16] sila [44:17] mag [44:17] warning [44:17] sa [44:18] nationals [44:19] nila [44:19] dito [44:19] kung [44:20] hindi [44:21] either [44:21] at least [44:21] alam [44:22] nila [44:22] or [44:23] at [44:23] worse [44:23] in [44:25] encourage [44:25] nila [44:25] yung [44:26] ganyang [44:26] modus [44:27] and [44:27] ngayon [44:28] iwawarn [44:29] nila [44:29] yung [44:29] nationals [44:30] nila [44:30] na [44:30] maging [44:31] mas [44:31] maingat [44:32] dahil [44:32] binabantayan [44:33] nyo [44:33] na [44:33] sila [44:33] in [44:33] the [44:34] dark [44:34] web [44:34] hindi [44:34] open [44:36] source [44:37] meron [44:37] lang [44:37] po [44:38] tayo [44:38] tools [44:39] to [44:40] wait [44:40] to [44:41] that [44:41] napapasok [44:42] po [44:42] natin [44:43] so [44:43] more [44:45] reason [44:46] for [44:46] us [44:46] in [44:46] the [44:47] bureau [44:47] to [44:47] believe [44:49] that [44:49] there [44:49] is [44:49] a [44:49] national [44:50] security [44:50] on [44:51] the [44:51] matter [44:51] now [44:52] I [44:52] go [44:53] back [44:53] to [44:53] your [44:53] tungkol [44:54] sa [44:55] Pogo [44:55] po [44:56] sunod [44:57] po [44:57] yung [44:57] naging [44:58] law [44:58] enforcement [44:59] action [44:59] before [45:00] the [45:00] subic [45:00] meron [45:01] po [45:01] muna [45:01] kami [45:02] sa [45:02] Sambwang [45:02] Sibugay [45:03] and [45:04] this [45:05] is [45:05] still [45:05] an [45:05] ongoing [45:06] investigation [45:07] Doon po [45:08] may [45:09] na [45:09] arrest [45:10] or [45:10] rescue [45:10] kayong [45:11] more [45:11] than [45:11] 200 [45:12] 291 [45:13] out [45:14] of [45:14] 291 [45:15] 200 [45:16] 234 [45:19] rescued [45:19] 61 [45:20] repiled [45:21] charges [45:21] but [45:22] right [45:23] now [45:23] we [45:23] are [45:23] in [45:24] the [45:24] process [45:24] we [45:24] subvenate [45:25] the [45:25] local [45:25] government [45:26] officials [45:26] of [45:26] CI [45:27] and [45:27] Alicia [45:27] because [45:28] malaki [45:29] po [45:29] yung [45:29] operation [45:30] para [45:31] po [45:31] itong [45:31] yung [45:31] complex [45:32] din [45:32] nung [45:32] resort [45:33] type [45:33] po [45:34] so [45:35] ongoing [45:36] po [45:37] yan [45:37] then [45:37] after [45:37] the [45:38] one [45:38] in [45:39] Sambwang [45:39] Sibugay [45:39] yan [45:40] nga [45:40] po [45:40] yung [45:40] subic [45:41] but [45:41] yung [45:42] subic [45:42] po [45:43] hindi [45:44] po [45:44] Chinese [45:45] Vietnamese [45:45] naman [45:46] yung [45:46] majority [45:46] rito [45:47] so [45:48] some [45:49] are [45:49] rescued [45:49] kasi [45:50] marami [45:50] po [45:50] dito [45:51] sa [45:51] 200 [45:53] plus [45:53] din [45:53] po [45:54] ito [45:55] yung [45:55] passport [45:56] nila [45:57] hawak [45:58] hawak [45:58] po [45:58] ng [45:58] employer [45:59] and [46:00] kaya [46:00] ko [46:00] binabanggit [46:01] yan [46:01] this [46:01] material [46:02] because [46:02] if [46:02] the [46:03] employer [46:03] is [46:03] holding [46:06] indication [46:06] of [46:07] human [46:07] trafficking [46:07] so [46:08] na-release [46:10] po [46:11] namin [46:11] yung [46:11] iba [46:12] in [46:12] coordination [46:12] with [46:12] their [46:13] embassy [46:13] and [46:14] at [46:15] large [46:15] po [46:15] yung [46:15] pinakang [46:17] ma-identify [46:17] na [46:18] operator [46:19] nito [46:19] is [46:20] a [46:20] Chinese [46:20] Vietnamese [46:21] ang [46:21] kanya [46:21] pong [46:22] nationality [46:22] At [46:23] saka [46:23] director [46:23] na [46:24] alala [46:24] ko [46:24] that [46:24] matter [46:25] na [46:25] hinahawakan [46:26] nung [46:26] bosses [46:27] yung [46:27] passports [46:28] nila [46:28] that [46:30] came [46:31] to [46:31] the [46:31] well [46:32] the [46:32] Committee [46:32] on [46:32] Women's [46:33] Attention [46:34] nung [46:35] pre [46:36] Alice [46:37] Guo [46:37] investigation [46:37] yung [46:38] investigation [46:38] dun [46:39] sa [46:39] isang [46:40] Taiwanese [46:40] woman [46:41] na [46:41] illegally [46:43] nirecruit [46:43] from [46:44] Taiwan [46:44] pa [46:44] pagpunta [46:45] dito [46:46] akala [46:46] niya [46:46] magtatrabaho [46:47] siya [46:47] bilang [46:47] interpreter [46:48] yung pala [46:49] pinagtrabaho [46:50] siya [46:50] sa [46:50] Pogo [46:50] na [46:51] hinawakan [46:52] din [46:52] nung [46:52] Chinese [46:52] bosses [46:53] niya [46:53] yung [46:53] passport [46:53] niya [46:54] and [46:54] then [46:54] we [46:54] saw [46:55] that [46:55] dun [46:56] sa [46:56] mga [46:56] tinraffic [46:57] sa [46:57] mga [46:58] Pogo [46:58] hubs [46:59] abroad [47:00] ng [47:00] mga [47:00] Pinoy [47:01] so [47:01] ganun [47:01] din [47:01] modus [47:02] That [47:06] is the [47:06] system [47:07] being [47:07] done [47:07] even [47:08] in [47:08] other [47:08] countries [47:09] this is [47:11] actually [47:12] cross-border [47:12] crimes [47:13] na po [47:13] yung [47:13] nangyayari [47:14] rito [47:14] and [47:14] I just [47:16] happy to [47:17] mention [47:17] that [47:17] we are [47:18] in [47:19] coordination [47:19] with our [47:19] counterparts [47:20] especially [47:21] the [47:22] Homeland [47:23] Security [47:24] Investigation [47:25] Unit [47:25] of the [47:25] US [47:25] Embassy [47:26] wherein [47:27] we are [47:27] planning [47:27] to put [47:28] up [47:28] a [47:28] unit [47:29] to [47:29] track [47:30] down [47:30] this [47:30] because [47:30] ito [47:31] po [47:31] nangyayari [47:31] yung [47:32] crime [47:33] na [47:33] to [47:33] ang mga [47:34] victims [47:34] nasa [47:35] ibang [47:35] bansya [47:35] yung [47:36] mga [47:37] cyber [47:37] scam [47:40] hub [47:40] na [47:40] nandito [47:40] sa [47:40] atin [47:41] but [47:41] speaking [47:42] of [47:42] Pogo [47:42] balik [47:44] po [47:44] tayo [47:44] roon [47:44] bago [47:46] umakalimutan [47:47] dun [47:47] po [47:48] sa [47:48] Sabwang [47:49] Cebu [47:49] there [47:49] are [47:49] about [47:50] 87 [47:50] Chinese [47:51] na [47:52] nag [47:52] avail [47:53] of [47:53] visa [47:53] free [47:53] entry [47:54] so [47:55] the [47:55] reason [47:55] I'm [47:56] mentioning [47:56] it [47:56] we [47:57] have [47:57] to [47:57] look [47:57] on [47:57] our [47:58] policy [47:58] on [47:58] the [47:58] visa [47:59] free [47:59] entry [47:59] yung [48:00] 14 days [48:00] lang [48:00] po [48:01] yan [48:01] pero [48:02] hindi [48:02] na [48:02] umaalis [48:04] and [48:04] ito [48:04] pong [48:05] visa [48:05] free [48:05] entry [48:06] ay [48:06] two-year [48:06] program [48:07] po [48:07] ng [48:07] Pilipinas [48:08] sa [48:09] ngayon [48:09] kasi [48:10] we [48:10] wanted [48:10] to [48:11] generate [48:12] more [48:12] tourism [48:13] pero [48:13] ayaw [48:14] naman [48:14] natin [48:14] mag-generate [48:15] ng [48:15] patuloy [48:16] at [48:16] mas maraming [48:16] Pogo [48:17] So [48:17] baka [48:19] because [48:19] we're [48:19] speaking [48:20] of [48:20] parang [48:21] yung [48:21] dapat [48:21] natin [48:22] i-plug [48:22] ng [48:22] mga [48:22] butas [48:23] po [48:23] mga [48:23] lupos [48:24] out [48:26] of [48:30] the [48:30] visa [48:30] free [48:30] entry [48:31] laki [48:31] kita [48:31] po [48:31] natin [48:32] yan [48:32] doon [48:32] so [48:33] meron [48:34] na rin [48:35] po [48:35] tayong [48:35] nahuli [48:37] na [48:37] Pogo [48:37] dito [48:38] na po [48:38] sa Metro [48:39] Manila [48:39] recently [48:40] with [48:41] also [48:42] CIDG [48:42] the other [48:43] day [48:43] Cyber [48:44] Scam [48:44] naman [48:45] po [48:45] yun [48:45] Indonesian [48:46] so [48:47] we are [48:48] being [48:49] alarm [48:49] po [48:49] tayo [48:50] ngayon [48:50] because [48:50] we have [48:51] received [48:51] communication [48:53] from [48:53] Cambodia [48:53] that they [48:54] also [48:54] closed [48:55] the [48:55] operation [48:56] ng [48:56] Pogo [48:56] sa [48:56] Cambodia [48:58] it's [48:59] been [48:59] declared [49:01] illegal [49:01] already [49:02] so [49:02] mag-aana [49:03] po [49:03] ng [49:03] pupuntahan [49:04] at babalikan [49:05] I think [49:05] at least [49:06] second wave [49:07] na po [49:07] yan [49:07] ang [49:07] pagsara [49:08] ng [49:08] Pogo [49:09] sa [49:09] Cambodia [49:09] dahil [49:10] din sa [49:11] di umano [49:13] in-legalize [49:15] ng [49:15] China [49:15] and [49:16] closed [49:17] naman [49:17] yung [49:18] dalawang [49:18] gobyerno [49:19] and [49:19] we remember [49:20] nung [49:21] una [49:22] or earlier [49:22] na [49:23] tinigil [49:24] ang Pogo [49:24] sa [49:24] Cambodia [49:25] talagang [49:25] dito [49:25] pumunta [49:26] and [49:27] then [49:27] nung [49:27] dito [49:28] ay [49:28] binan [49:29] and [49:29] pinasa [49:30] ng [49:30] kongreso [49:31] ang [49:32] Anti-Pogo [49:33] Act [49:33] again [49:34] from [49:35] chatter [49:35] and [49:35] yung [49:36] mga [49:36] inputs [49:36] nyo [49:36] mga [49:37] intel [49:37] from [49:38] the [49:38] law [49:39] enforcement [49:40] and [49:40] intelligence [49:41] agencies [49:41] yung [49:42] iba [49:42] ay [49:42] nagbalikan [49:43] doon [49:44] so [49:44] ngayon [49:44] nag-crackdown [49:45] nag-crackdown [49:47] ang [49:48] problema [49:49] dito [49:50] nung [49:51] din [49:51] declare [49:51] na [49:51] illegal [49:52] yung [49:52] Pogo [49:52] nag-convert [49:54] yung [49:55] iba [49:55] dito [49:55] as [49:55] scam [49:55] hub [49:56] so [49:57] yun [49:57] na [49:57] po [49:58] yung [49:58] mga [49:58] challenge [49:59] dito [49:59] it's [49:59] now [50:00] combination [50:01] na [50:01] may [50:01] nag-popogo [50:02] tapos [50:02] meron din [50:03] scam [50:05] hubs [50:06] so [50:06] yung [50:07] mga [50:07] love [50:07] scam [50:07] nandiyan [50:08] din [50:08] po [50:08] so [50:09] sa [50:11] amin [50:11] naman [50:11] po [50:11] tapos [50:12] yun [50:12] you [50:12] mentioned [50:12] grande [50:13] island [50:13] we [50:14] have [50:14] been [50:14] monitoring [50:15] it [50:15] meron [50:15] po [50:15] kaming [50:16] team [50:16] to [50:16] monitor [50:17] it [50:17] and [50:17] we [50:17] have [50:18] noticed [50:21] some [50:21] activities [50:22] that [50:22] needs [50:22] to be [50:23] further [50:23] investigated [50:24] so [50:25] meron [50:25] po [50:26] tayong [50:26] mga [50:26] nakatutok [50:27] doon [50:27] we [50:28] are [50:28] strengthening [50:28] our [50:29] district [50:29] office [50:29] in [50:30] Olongga [50:30] po [50:30] so [50:31] that [50:31] they [50:32] can [50:32] immediately [50:32] respond [50:33] dyan [50:34] po [50:34] sa [50:34] area [50:35] na [50:36] yan [50:36] because [50:36] grande [50:37] island [50:37] is [50:37] strategic [50:38] po [50:38] yan [50:38] yan [50:39] yan [50:41] na [50:41] rin [50:41] po [50:42] kasama [50:42] na [50:42] rin [50:42] po [50:42] investigation [50:43] namin [50:43] hindi [50:44] paputa [50:45] sa land [50:45] grabbing [50:46] issue [50:46] doon po [50:47] sa [50:47] bataan [50:48] na [50:49] apparently [50:50] suspected [50:51] din po [50:51] na yung [50:52] mga [50:53] Chinese [50:53] personalities [50:54] na [50:54] dinideclare [50:55] na owner [50:55] ng mga [50:55] properties [50:56] doon [50:57] sa [50:57] lucky [50:57] beach [50:58] na [50:58] tinatawag [50:58] ay [50:59] mga [51:00] nag-avail [51:00] din [51:00] ng [51:01] late [51:03] registration [51:04] to be [51:04] Filipino [51:04] citizens [51:05] po [51:05] kanina [51:06] nabanggit [51:06] sa [51:07] earlier [51:07] part [51:08] ng hiling [51:08] yung [51:09] balanga [51:09] ba [51:10] balanga [51:10] bataan [51:10] so [51:11] ito po [51:16] yung [51:16] ginamit [51:17] gagawin [51:17] po [51:18] centers [51:18] din [51:18] dapat [51:19] if you [51:19] recall [51:19] yung [51:20] reason [51:21] po [51:21] yung [51:21] ang [51:22] lawyer [51:22] din [51:23] yan [51:23] si [51:23] dating [51:24] secretary [51:25] Harry [51:26] Roque [51:26] ongoing [51:28] investigation [51:29] po [51:29] namin [51:29] yan [51:29] mom [51:30] baka [51:31] sa mga [51:33] selected [51:33] areas [51:34] ng mga [51:35] pogo [51:36] operators [51:36] and [51:37] scam [51:37] hub [51:37] operators [51:38] slowly [51:39] kinoconcentrate [51:40] nila [51:41] yung mga [51:41] parallel [51:42] activities [51:42] nila [51:43] so [51:44] kailangan [51:45] talagang [51:45] alagaan [51:46] protect [51:46] yung [51:46] iba't [51:46] ibang [51:47] areas [51:47] natin [51:48] also [51:48] director [51:49] yung [51:49] nabanggit [51:50] kanina [51:50] about [51:51] yung [51:52] pag-abuso [51:53] sa [51:53] visa [51:54] system [51:54] nare-recall [51:55] ko [51:55] tuloy [51:56] dun din [51:56] sa [51:56] committee [51:57] on [51:57] women [51:57] yung [51:58] pag-abuso [51:59] sa [51:59] visa [52:00] upon [52:00] arrival [52:01] noon [52:01] sa [52:02] bureau [52:03] of [52:03] immigration [52:03] kaya [52:04] na [52:04] uncover [52:05] natin [52:05] noon [52:05] yung [52:06] pastilia [52:06] scam [52:07] so [52:07] parang [52:07] nagmo-morph [52:08] may [52:09] mga [52:09] core [52:10] business [52:11] model [52:12] or core [52:12] revenue [52:13] streams [52:13] and then [52:13] over time [52:14] under pressure [52:15] ng mga [52:15] government [52:16] agencies [52:17] nagmo-morph [52:18] sila [52:18] but [52:18] basically [52:19] hindi pa rin [52:20] talaga nila [52:21] tinitigil [52:22] yung [52:22] ganyan [52:22] mga [52:22] illegal [52:23] activities [52:24] nila [52:24] doon [52:26] doon [52:26] po [52:26] pogo [52:27] raids [52:27] may [52:28] nakita [52:28] ba [52:29] kayong [52:29] ebidensya [52:29] ng mga [52:30] national [52:31] security [52:31] threats [52:32] halimbawa [52:32] na yung [52:33] mga [52:33] sangkot [52:34] yung mga [52:35] kinakasuhan [52:37] especially [52:37] ay [52:37] ahente [52:38] din [52:39] ng [52:39] foreign [52:39] states [52:40] we are [52:42] checking [52:43] on [52:44] that [52:44] ang challenge [52:45] po [52:45] ngayon [52:45] sa amin [52:46] senator [52:46] your [52:47] honor [52:47] is [52:47] madami [52:49] po yan [52:50] tapos [52:50] we will [52:50] confiscate [52:51] about [52:52] thousands [52:52] of [52:52] gadgets [52:53] so we [52:54] need [52:54] we need [52:55] tools [52:55] we need [52:56] we need [52:57] people [52:58] to [52:59] persons [52:59] to [53:00] examine [53:00] the gadgets [53:01] para po [53:02] lumabas [53:02] lahat [53:02] kagaya po [53:04] nung [53:04] Sambuanga [53:05] Sibugay [53:05] na yan [53:05] saka yung [53:06] pong [53:06] subic [53:07] na last [53:08] raid [53:08] namin [53:08] there's [53:10] a strong [53:10] indication [53:10] that [53:11] ito [53:11] ginagamit [53:12] din [53:12] na troll [53:12] farm [53:12] may [53:14] implication [53:16] na rin [53:16] po [53:16] sa atin [53:17] dahil [53:17] alam naman [53:17] natin [53:18] how the [53:18] troll [53:18] farm [53:19] affects [53:19] yung [53:20] ating [53:20] stability [53:21] especially [53:22] politically [53:22] so [53:23] tinitingnan [53:25] po rin [53:25] namin [53:25] yan [53:25] so [53:27] anything [53:27] po mami [53:28] pwede [53:28] nang pumasok [53:29] lahat [53:29] there is [53:29] an ecosystem [53:31] na sila [53:32] pala [53:32] nang nakakaalam [53:33] that we [53:34] have to [53:34] discover [53:34] by opening [53:37] one by [53:37] one yung [53:38] pong aming [53:38] mga [53:38] nakumpiskan [53:39] ng mga [53:39] laptops [53:40] computers [53:41] at mga [53:41] gadgets [53:42] po nila [53:43] but there [53:44] are [53:44] indications [53:44] already [53:45] so [53:46] pakihanda [53:46] din po [53:47] ng [53:47] recommendations [53:48] proposed [53:49] recommendations [53:50] para sa [53:50] committee [53:51] report [53:51] namin [53:51] in terms [53:52] of [53:52] yun [53:52] nga [53:53] pag [53:53] capacity [53:54] lalo [53:55] ng [53:55] bureau [53:56] para dun [53:56] sa mga [53:57] forensic [53:57] investigation [53:58] nyo [53:58] on the [53:59] gadgets [53:59] and yes [54:00] pag [54:00] troll [54:00] farms [54:00] so [54:01] syempre [54:01] yung [54:02] masamang [54:03] epekto [54:04] niyan [54:04] in terms [54:05] of [54:05] disinformation [54:07] fake news [54:08] etc. [54:08] senator [54:09] ayoko [54:09] lumayo [54:10] yung [54:10] usapan [54:11] pero [54:11] connected [54:12] na rin [54:12] po [54:13] rito [54:13] if you [54:13] recall [54:13] we've [54:14] been [54:15] reading [54:15] yung [54:16] mga [54:16] steel [54:17] industries [54:17] po [54:17] yan [54:19] po [54:19] yung [54:19] mga [54:19] nakarehistro [54:21] dyan [54:21] na owners [54:21] na [54:22] Pilipino [54:23] na [54:23] pero [54:23] marami [54:25] po [54:25] dun [54:25] na [54:26] nakikita [54:27] namin [54:28] na [54:28] i-think [54:28] also [54:29] a bill [54:29] and we're [54:29] validating [54:30] it [54:30] of the [54:31] late [54:31] registration [54:32] hindi [54:32] rin [54:32] po [54:32] marunong [54:33] magsalita [54:33] natin [54:34] so [54:35] kasama [54:36] rin [54:36] po [54:36] yun [54:36] sa [54:37] tinitingnan [54:38] po [54:38] natin [54:38] so [54:40] yan [54:40] naman [54:41] ini-investiga [54:41] sa [54:41] committee [54:42] on [54:42] economic [54:42] affairs [54:43] so [54:43] talagang [54:44] ang daming [54:45] problemang [54:45] nililikha [54:46] nitong [54:47] akala [54:48] natin [54:48] nung [54:49] una [54:49] simple [54:49] pero [54:50] pagpasok [54:52] at pag-aabuso [54:53] sa ating [54:54] identity [54:55] documents [54:56] issuing [54:57] na mga [54:58] proseso [54:59] because [54:59] I think [55:00] the question [55:00] is [55:01] bakit [55:01] sila [55:02] mag-a-avail [55:03] ng [55:03] Pilipino [55:04] citizen [55:04] chief [55:04] I think [55:06] that is [55:06] the [55:06] question [55:06] bakit [55:07] yung mga [55:09] Pilipino [55:09] gustong [55:10] mag-a-avail [55:11] ng ibang [55:11] citizenship [55:12] pero sila [55:12] bakit [55:13] because [55:14] of the [55:15] opportunity [55:16] yung [55:17] business [55:17] diba [55:18] una na yun [55:19] and [55:19] pwede rin [55:20] natin [55:20] sabihin [55:21] dahil may [55:21] alis [55:21] go [55:22] but [55:22] pumasok [55:22] ng [55:22] politika [55:23] so [55:24] it [55:25] goes [55:25] with [55:25] our [55:25] economy [55:27] and [55:27] the [55:28] national [55:28] security [55:29] kaya [55:29] nag-a-avail [55:30] so [55:30] hindi [55:31] po [55:31] talaga [55:31] maliit [55:32] na [55:32] bagay [55:32] and [55:33] that's [55:33] the [55:34] exact [55:34] motivation [55:35] why [55:35] we [55:35] have [55:36] order [55:37] number [55:37] 22 [55:38] because [55:39] we [55:40] also [55:42] made a [55:42] recommendation [55:43] to the [55:43] executive [55:44] secretary [55:44] to have [55:45] an [55:45] inter-agency [55:46] collaboration [55:47] on this [55:47] matter [55:48] because [55:49] we have [55:49] to [55:49] address [55:49] this [55:50] problem [55:50] immediately [55:51] nasa [55:52] system [55:53] so [55:54] problema [55:54] natin [55:55] paano [55:55] natin [55:55] sila [55:56] aalisin [55:56] dun [55:57] sa [55:57] sistema [55:58] babalik [55:59] po [55:59] kung [55:59] sinabi [56:00] ko [56:00] while [56:00] the [56:01] case [56:01] is [56:01] being [56:01] tried [56:02] in [56:02] any [56:02] court [56:02] at [56:03] alam [56:03] naman [56:03] po [56:03] natin [56:04] hindi [56:04] naman [56:04] po [56:04] natatapos [56:05] ng [56:05] isa [56:05] dalawang [56:06] buwan [56:06] yung [56:06] kaso [56:06] sila [56:07] ay [56:07] Pilipino [56:08] so [56:09] baka [56:10] dapat [56:10] po [56:10] we [56:10] exercise [56:11] a [56:11] sovereign [56:11] right [56:12] to [56:12] exclude [56:12] yung [56:13] mga [56:13] tao [56:13] na [56:14] yan [56:14] alam [56:14] naman [56:15] natin [56:23] na [56:23] parang [56:24] parang [56:25] immediately [56:25] somebody [56:26] like the [56:26] PSA [56:27] probably [56:28] or the [56:28] immigration [56:29] or to [56:29] sinuman [56:30] will [56:31] immediately [56:31] cancel [56:32] this [56:33] birth [56:34] certificate [56:34] and [56:35] cancel [56:35] everything [56:35] and [56:36] whatever [56:36] na [56:37] connected [56:37] the [56:37] properties [56:38] anything [56:38] we [56:38] forfeit [56:38] it [56:39] in [56:39] favor [56:39] of [56:39] the [56:39] government [56:40] and [56:40] exclude [56:41] that [56:41] citizen [56:41] return [56:42] it [56:42] balik [56:42] na lang [56:43] natin [56:43] sa [56:43] lugar [56:44] nila [56:44] kung sa [56:45] sila [56:45] nang [56:45] galing [56:45] ay [56:47] yung [56:47] siguro [56:48] yung [56:48] sa akin [56:49] but [56:49] we [56:49] can [56:49] do [56:50] the [56:50] investigation [56:50] we [56:51] can [56:51] establish [56:51] sino [56:52] itong [56:52] mga [56:52] to [56:52] and [56:53] actually [56:53] we [56:53] are [56:54] coordinating [56:54] also [56:54] with [56:55] AMLA [56:55] to [56:55] check [56:55] yung [56:56] mga [56:56] assets [56:56] and [56:57] we [56:57] will [56:57] make [56:58] recommendation [56:58] that [56:58] these [56:59] people [56:59] na [57:00] maliwanag [57:01] naman [57:01] na [57:01] nag-abail [57:02] ng [57:03] citizenship [57:03] illegally [57:04] e kung [57:04] may [57:05] mga [57:05] assets [57:05] ma-prease [57:06] natin [57:06] yung [57:06] mga [57:06] assets [57:07] in [57:07] coordination [57:07] with [57:08] LRA [57:08] LTO [57:09] ma-prease [57:10] yung [57:10] assets [57:10] nila [57:11] so [57:11] that [57:11] wala [57:11] silang [57:12] perang [57:12] ilalabas [57:13] to [57:13] to [57:14] to [57:15] yung [57:16] labanan [57:16] yung [57:23] I think [57:24] gano'n [57:24] na po [57:24] siguro [57:25] dapat [57:25] yung [57:25] direction [57:26] natin [57:27] kasi [57:28] on its [57:28] face [57:29] may [57:29] predicate [57:29] case [57:30] ka [57:30] naman [57:30] so [57:30] with [57:30] AMLA [57:31] if [57:31] there's [57:31] a [57:31] predicate [57:31] case [57:32] i-prease [57:35] natin [57:35] whatever [57:36] assets [57:36] that [57:36] they [57:36] have [57:37] At [57:37] nasimula [57:38] na po [57:38] natin [57:38] yan [57:38] dun [57:39] sa [57:39] AFASA [57:39] law [57:40] in [57:40] the [57:40] case [57:41] of [57:41] POGOs [57:41] na [57:42] yung [57:42] masize [57:43] ng [57:43] gobyerno [57:43] na [57:43] assets [57:44] ng [57:44] POGO [57:44] ay [57:45] pwedeng [57:45] gamitin [57:45] sa [57:46] rehabilitation [57:46] ng [57:47] POGO [57:48] victim [57:48] survivors [57:49] and [57:49] I'm [57:49] hearing [57:50] it [57:50] for [57:50] the [57:50] second [57:50] time [57:51] pero [57:51] I [57:51] think [57:51] deserving [57:52] of [57:52] serious [57:53] consideration [57:54] pati [57:55] sa [57:55] recommendations [57:56] ng [57:56] committee [57:56] report [57:57] yung [57:57] sinasabing [57:57] yung [57:57] the [57:58] possibility [57:59] of [57:59] excluding [58:00] so [58:00] iintayin [58:02] din [58:02] ng [58:02] committee [58:02] yung [58:03] recommendation [58:04] ng [58:04] NBI [58:05] dyan [58:05] because [58:05] what [58:06] we [58:06] have [58:07] here [58:07] is [58:07] a [58:08] terrible [58:08] combination [58:09] of [58:09] factors [58:11] may [58:12] ill [58:12] intent [58:12] yung [58:13] certain [58:13] actors [58:14] na [58:15] pasukin [58:16] at [58:16] abusuhin [58:17] yung [58:18] ating [58:18] identity [58:19] documents [58:20] issuing [58:20] agencies [58:21] and [58:21] processes [58:22] and [58:22] then [58:22] apparently [58:23] may [58:24] kahinaan [58:25] din [58:25] tayo [58:25] on our [58:26] side [58:26] hindi [58:27] natin [58:27] dapat [58:27] hayaang [58:28] magpatuloy [58:29] po [58:29] iyon [58:29] any [58:30] self-respecting [58:31] country [58:31] dapat [58:32] talaga [58:32] secure [58:33] may [58:34] may [58:34] lakas [58:35] na [58:36] isecure [58:37] yung [58:37] Filipino [58:38] identity [58:39] as [58:40] ascertained [58:41] in that [58:42] relationship [58:42] of trust [58:43] ng mga [58:44] documents [58:45] natin [58:45] at [58:46] hindi [58:46] papayagan [58:47] pasukan [58:48] gamitin [58:49] abusuhin [58:50] ng mga [58:51] dayuhan [58:51] so that [58:52] has to [58:52] stop [58:53] and [58:53] I hear [58:54] you [58:54] director [58:54] even [58:54] in terms [58:55] of [58:55] yung [58:55] mga [58:55] continuing [58:56] POGO [58:57] regions [58:57] tawag [58:58] nga [58:58] nung [58:58] iba [58:58] guerrilla [58:59] POGOs [58:59] bakit [59:00] natin [59:01] hayaan [59:01] magpatuloy [59:02] yan [59:02] at [59:02] patuloy [59:03] na [59:03] abusuhin [59:04] itong [59:05] mga [59:05] Filipino [59:06] identity [59:07] document [59:08] issuing [59:08] processes [59:09] and [59:09] agencies [59:11] natin [59:11] bago [59:14] ko [59:14] itanong [59:14] mga [59:15] similar [59:15] questions [59:15] din [59:16] sa [59:16] PAO [59:17] sa [59:19] observation [59:20] po [59:20] ng [59:21] NBI [59:21] malimit [59:22] po ba [59:22] iyong [59:23] pagkuha [59:24] ng [59:24] peking [59:25] passport [59:26] at [59:28] konektado [59:28] sa [59:29] paggawa [59:29] ng [59:29] iba [59:29] pang [59:30] mga [59:30] krimen [59:31] Well [59:32] ma'am [59:33] kaya [59:33] po [59:33] sila [59:34] actually [59:34] I'm not [59:35] so worried [59:36] dun sa [59:36] peke [59:37] na [59:37] passport [59:37] kasi [59:38] ang [59:38] nangyayari [59:38] hindi [59:39] na [59:39] peke [59:39] yung [59:39] passport [59:39] nila [59:40] once [59:40] they [59:40] got [59:40] hold [59:41] of [59:41] the [59:42] birth [59:42] certificate [59:43] they [59:43] can [59:43] already [59:44] apply [59:44] for [59:44] a [59:44] genuine [59:45] passport [59:46] pero [59:47] babalik [59:48] po [59:48] ko [59:48] sa [59:48] sinabi [59:48] ko [59:49] ma'am [59:49] na [59:49] kaya [59:50] nila [59:50] gusto [59:50] maging [59:51] Pilipino [59:51] because [59:52] they [59:53] will [59:53] operate [59:53] a [59:53] business [59:54] here [59:54] nandirito [59:55] na [59:55] sila [59:55] hindi [59:56] na [1:00:03] illegal [1:00:04] operations [1:00:05] din [1:00:05] meron [1:00:06] sila [1:00:06] nga [1:00:06] yung [1:00:06] identity [1:00:07] na [1:00:07] Pilipino [1:00:08] sila [1:00:08] which [1:00:09] yung [1:00:09] batas [1:00:10] na [1:00:10] extended [1:00:10] to [1:00:11] Pilipino [1:00:11] exclusively [1:00:12] to [1:00:12] Pilipino [1:00:13] citizens [1:00:13] they [1:00:13] benefit [1:00:14] from [1:00:14] that [1:00:14] that's [1:00:15] why [1:00:16] I [1:00:18] think [1:00:20] we have [1:00:20] to [1:00:21] determine [1:00:21] an [1:00:21] action [1:00:22] that [1:00:22] immediately [1:00:23] exclude [1:00:24] and [1:00:24] exercise [1:00:25] our [1:00:25] sovereign [1:00:25] right [1:00:26] to [1:00:27] exclude [1:00:27] yung [1:00:27] mga [1:00:28] personalities [1:00:29] na [1:00:29] ganito [1:00:29] because [1:00:29] they're [1:00:30] harmful [1:00:30] and [1:00:31] we [1:00:32] we [1:00:32] sees [1:00:33] all their [1:00:34] assets [1:00:34] kung [1:00:35] ano [1:00:35] yung [1:00:35] negosyon [1:00:36] ginagawa [1:00:36] nila [1:00:36] punin [1:00:37] natin [1:00:37] ng [1:00:37] gobyerno [1:00:38] at [1:00:38] gamitin [1:00:39] natin [1:00:39] ng [1:00:39] tama [1:00:40] para [1:00:40] sa [1:00:40] atin [1:00:41] mga [1:00:41] Pilipino [1:00:41] so [1:00:42] going back [1:00:43] sa sinayong [1:00:43] kung peke [1:00:44] yung [1:00:44] passport [1:00:44] ba't [1:00:45] kumuha [1:00:45] ng [1:00:45] passport [1:00:46] dahil [1:00:46] gusto [1:00:47] rin [1:00:47] mag [1:00:47] negosyo [1:00:48] remember [1:00:48] yung [1:00:48] passport [1:00:49] is [1:00:49] not [1:00:49] only [1:00:50] used [1:00:50] to [1:00:50] travel [1:00:51] pwede [1:00:52] na [1:00:52] rin [1:00:52] siyang [1:00:53] identity [1:00:53] rito [1:00:53] na [1:00:54] ID [1:00:54] siya [1:00:54] government [1:00:55] issued [1:00:55] ID [1:00:55] na [1:00:55] rin [1:00:56] siya [1:00:56] mas [1:00:57] powerful [1:00:57] pa nga [1:00:58] na [1:00:58] passport [1:00:59] because [1:00:59] the [1:01:00] presumption [1:01:01] is [1:01:01] very [1:01:01] difficult [1:01:02] to get [1:01:02] a [1:01:03] passport [1:01:04] hindi [1:01:04] ganun [1:01:05] kadali [1:01:05] mas [1:01:06] mabigat [1:01:07] yung [1:01:07] mga [1:01:08] requirements [1:01:08] mo [1:01:09] so [1:01:09] if [1:01:09] somebody [1:01:10] get [1:01:10] a [1:01:10] passport [1:01:11] asahan [1:01:11] na [1:01:12] natin [1:01:12] gagawa [1:01:13] po [1:01:13] na [1:01:13] iligay [1:01:14] yan [1:01:14] either [1:01:14] mag [1:01:14] popong [1:01:16] yan [1:01:16] mag [1:01:16] galagay [1:01:17] yan [1:01:17] ng [1:01:18] negosyo [1:01:18] appearing [1:01:19] to be [1:01:20] a [1:01:20] legitimate [1:01:20] appearing [1:01:22] to be [1:01:22] that [1:01:22] there [1:01:23] is [1:01:23] an [1:01:23] exportation [1:01:24] wala [1:01:24] naman [1:01:24] pala [1:01:25] pinagpapasukan [1:01:26] lang [1:01:26] pala [1:01:26] ng [1:01:27] pera [1:01:27] I think [1:01:28] I'm sure [1:01:29] you know [1:01:29] what I'm [1:01:29] saying [1:01:30] and [1:01:32] tama [1:01:32] kayo [1:01:33] director [1:01:33] they are [1:01:34] really [1:01:34] harmful [1:01:35] so [1:01:36] bakit [1:01:36] nating [1:01:36] patuloy [1:01:37] nahahayaan [1:01:38] na [1:01:38] maggamit [1:01:38] nila [1:01:39] yung [1:01:39] mga [1:01:39] dokumento [1:01:40] natin [1:01:41] para [1:01:41] saktan [1:01:42] din [1:01:42] yung [1:01:42] sariling [1:01:42] bayan [1:01:43] para [1:01:44] tayong [1:01:44] ginigisa [1:01:44] sa sariling [1:01:45] mantikan [1:01:46] yan [1:01:46] and [1:01:47] they're [1:01:47] harmful [1:01:48] all the [1:01:48] way [1:01:48] up [1:01:49] to [1:01:49] sabi [1:01:49] nyo [1:01:49] nga [1:01:49] yung [1:01:50] demokrasya [1:01:51] natin [1:01:51] yung [1:01:51] governance [1:01:52] natin [1:01:53] troll [1:01:53] farms [1:01:54] I mean [1:01:55] bakit [1:01:55] tayo [1:01:56] patuloy [1:01:56] na [1:01:57] mag-iissue [1:01:57] ng [1:01:57] mga [1:01:58] Filipino [1:01:59] IDs [1:02:00] sa mga [1:02:01] tao [1:02:01] na [1:02:02] at [1:02:02] mga [1:02:02] entities [1:02:03] na [1:02:04] sasaktan [1:02:05] yung [1:02:06] sarili [1:02:06] nating [1:02:07] mga [1:02:07] civil [1:02:09] processes [1:02:10] dito [1:02:11] sa [1:02:11] Pilipinas [1:02:11] Alam nyo [1:02:13] po ma'am [1:02:13] I have [1:02:13] just to [1:02:14] mention [1:02:14] yung [1:02:15] 1,477 [1:02:17] na [1:02:17] na-monitor [1:02:18] namin [1:02:18] na kumuha [1:02:19] ng [1:02:19] birth [1:02:20] certificate [1:02:21] registering [1:02:21] through [1:02:22] late [1:02:22] registration [1:02:23] ng [1:02:24] birth [1:02:24] dun po [1:02:24] sa [1:02:25] Santa Cruz [1:02:25] Dabao del Sur [1:02:26] special pa [1:02:27] sila [1:02:28] kasi [1:02:28] when we [1:02:28] check [1:02:29] with the [1:02:29] treasury [1:02:29] wala pong [1:02:30] payment [1:02:31] walang [1:02:32] pumasok [1:02:32] na [1:02:33] payment [1:02:33] hindi [1:02:35] man lang [1:02:35] nagbayad [1:02:35] ng [1:02:36] peace [1:02:37] para [1:02:38] makapuhan [1:02:38] ng [1:02:38] birth [1:02:38] certificate [1:02:39] pero [1:02:39] nagkaroon [1:02:40] ng [1:02:40] birth [1:02:40] certificate [1:02:41] so [1:02:41] libre [1:02:41] libre [1:02:42] pa po [1:02:42] so [1:02:43] special pa [1:02:44] sila [1:02:44] kaysa [1:02:45] sa totoong [1:02:45] Pilipino [1:02:46] na nag-avail [1:02:47] ng [1:02:47] late [1:02:48] registration [1:02:48] so [1:02:49] kung [1:02:56] sino man [1:02:59] po [1:02:59] nagpasimula [1:03:00] nitong [1:03:00] modus [1:03:01] na ito [1:03:03] napakabigat [1:03:04] po [1:03:04] ng ginawa [1:03:05] kaya [1:03:06] po may [1:03:06] mga [1:03:07] kaso [1:03:07] kayo [1:03:08] dun sa [1:03:08] 7 [1:03:09] kaso [1:03:09] sa mga [1:03:10] civil [1:03:10] registrar [1:03:10] para [1:03:11] sa akin [1:03:11] maninipis [1:03:12] po [1:03:12] yung [1:03:12] kaso [1:03:13] na [1:03:13] yun [1:03:13] sa akin [1:03:14] nga [1:03:15] may [1:03:15] personal [1:03:16] take [1:03:16] on that [1:03:16] yung [1:03:18] mga [1:03:19] na-identify [1:03:20] natin [1:03:20] na mga [1:03:21] foreigner [1:03:22] na nag-avail [1:03:23] ngan [1:03:23] exclude [1:03:24] na natin [1:03:25] huwag [1:03:25] na natin [1:03:25] ikulong [1:03:26] dito [1:03:26] basta [1:03:27] mabuti [1:03:27] pa [1:03:28] kasi [1:03:29] out on [1:03:29] bill [1:03:29] may [1:03:32] warrant of [1:03:33] pares [1:03:33] na [1:03:33] yung [1:03:33] iba [1:03:34] po [1:03:34] at [1:03:34] large [1:03:34] sinahanap [1:03:35] namin [1:03:35] yung [1:03:37] 7 [1:03:38] na [1:03:38] kinasuhan [1:03:39] they are [1:03:39] individuals [1:03:40] or [1:03:40] foreigners [1:03:41] na sinaman [1:03:41] namin [1:03:42] sa kaso [1:03:42] warrant of [1:03:43] pares [1:03:43] were issued [1:03:44] already [1:03:44] by the [1:03:44] RTC [1:03:45] we have [1:03:46] a [1:03:46] fugitive [1:03:46] search [1:03:47] unit [1:03:47] na [1:03:47] hinahanap [1:03:48] pa [1:03:48] sila [1:03:49] at [1:03:51] saka [1:03:52] ma'am [1:03:52] these [1:03:52] people [1:03:53] who are [1:03:53] able [1:03:53] to [1:03:54] get [1:03:55] birth [1:03:55] certificate [1:03:56] or [1:03:57] passport [1:03:57] na [1:03:57] hindi [1:03:58] naman [1:03:58] sila [1:03:58] Pilipino [1:03:59] ibig [1:03:59] sabihin [1:04:00] they [1:04:00] have [1:04:00] the [1:04:00] resources [1:04:01] to [1:04:01] do [1:04:02] a [1:04:02] lot [1:04:02] of [1:04:02] things [1:04:02] because [1:04:03] if [1:04:03] they [1:04:03] were [1:04:03] able [1:04:04] to [1:04:04] do [1:04:04] that [1:04:04] may [1:04:05] long [1:04:07] term [1:04:07] plan [1:04:07] na [1:04:07] sila [1:04:07] na [1:04:08] mag [1:04:08] negosyo [1:04:08] na [1:04:09] exactly [1:04:10] ma'am [1:04:11] and [1:04:11] going back [1:04:12] dito [1:04:12] kay [1:04:12] Lynn [1:04:13] Gombasel [1:04:14] na [1:04:14] to [1:04:14] live [1:04:16] po [1:04:16] yung [1:04:16] tax [1:04:16] niya [1:04:17] nag [1:04:17] kumaan [1:04:18] na [1:04:18] siya [1:04:19] nagbabayad [1:04:19] siya [1:04:19] ng [1:04:19] mga [1:04:20] tax [1:04:20] and [1:04:20] we're [1:04:22] looking [1:04:22] into [1:04:22] it [1:04:23] we're [1:04:23] seeking [1:04:23] the [1:04:24] help [1:04:24] of [1:04:24] other [1:04:24] agencies [1:04:25] including [1:04:25] AMLC [1:04:26] LRA [1:04:27] and [1:04:28] London [1:04:28] Station [1:04:29] Office [1:04:29] Baka [1:04:30] sabihin [1:04:30] pa [1:04:30] niya [1:04:31] dapat [1:04:31] may [1:04:31] utang [1:04:32] na [1:04:32] loob [1:04:32] pa [1:04:32] tayo [1:04:32] na [1:04:32] nagbabayad [1:04:33] siya [1:04:33] ng [1:04:33] buis [1:04:34] dito [1:04:34] but [1:04:34] no [1:04:34] I mean [1:04:35] at saka [1:04:35] talagang [1:04:36] manggigigil [1:04:38] ka [1:04:38] director [1:04:38] kasi [1:04:39] hindi [1:04:39] lang [1:04:40] inaabuso [1:04:40] yung [1:04:40] mga [1:04:41] sistema [1:04:41] natin [1:04:42] pero [1:04:42] yung [1:04:43] mga [1:04:43] advances [1:04:44] na [1:04:44] nagawa [1:04:45] na [1:04:45] natin [1:04:45] halimbawa [1:04:45] yung [1:04:46] pagpasa [1:04:46] ng [1:04:46] anti [1:04:47] POGO [1:04:47] law [1:04:47] parang [1:04:48] pinapawalang [1:04:49] visa [1:04:49] pa [1:04:49] kung may [1:04:50] guerrilla [1:04:50] POGOs [1:04:51] eh [1:04:52] dapat [1:04:52] wala [1:04:52] na yun [1:04:52] kasi [1:04:53] bawal [1:04:53] na [1:04:53] ang [1:04:53] POGO [1:04:54] dito [1:04:54] and [1:04:54] yet [1:04:55] yung [1:04:55] impunity [1:04:56] na [1:04:56] magpatuloy [1:04:57] in [1:04:58] another [1:04:58] form [1:04:59] through [1:04:59] those [1:04:59] so-called [1:05:00] guerrilla [1:05:00] POGOs [1:05:01] That's [1:05:02] correct [1:05:02] ma'am [1:05:02] and [1:05:03] we have [1:05:03] information [1:05:04] we have [1:05:04] intel [1:05:04] reports [1:05:05] and [1:05:05] we are [1:05:05] doing [1:05:05] the [1:05:05] surveillance [1:05:06] right [1:05:06] now [1:05:06] hindi [1:05:07] lang [1:05:07] po [1:05:07] sa [1:05:07] Metro [1:05:08] Manila [1:05:08] like [1:05:09] sa [1:05:09] Bumaga [1:05:10] Cebu [1:05:10] we have [1:05:11] monitoring [1:05:12] in [1:05:12] Bohol [1:05:13] and [1:05:13] Cebu [1:05:14] right [1:05:14] now [1:05:14] na [1:05:15] may [1:05:15] mga [1:05:15] ganun [1:05:15] po [1:05:16] so [1:05:16] ang [1:05:16] hirap [1:05:17] naman [1:05:17] ma'am [1:05:17] kasi [1:05:17] ang [1:05:17] nangyayari [1:05:18] ang [1:05:18] NBI [1:05:19] po [1:05:19] hindi [1:05:19] naman [1:05:19] kami [1:05:19] law [1:05:20] enforcement [1:05:20] para [1:05:20] habulin [1:05:21] lang [1:05:21] yung [1:05:22] yung [1:05:22] mga [1:05:22] gumawa [1:05:23] na [1:05:23] ng [1:05:23] crimen [1:05:23] o [1:05:23] gumagawa [1:05:24] ang gusto [1:05:24] sana [1:05:24] namin [1:05:25] mangyari [1:05:25] is [1:05:25] more on [1:05:26] the [1:05:26] prevention [1:05:27] na [1:05:27] hindi [1:05:27] na [1:05:28] sana [1:05:28] and [1:05:28] that's [1:05:28] the [1:05:28] reason [1:05:29] why [1:05:29] our [1:05:29] Congress [1:05:30] kayo [1:05:30] po [1:05:30] nagle-legislate [1:05:31] na mga [1:05:31] ganun [1:05:32] matas [1:05:32] is [1:05:33] for [1:05:33] that [1:05:33] purpose [1:05:33] pero [1:05:34] this [1:05:36] thing [1:05:36] is [1:05:36] clearly [1:05:37] inimical [1:05:47] asama [1:05:47] ng [1:05:48] BI [1:05:48] yung [1:05:48] interagency [1:05:50] coordination [1:05:50] at yung [1:05:51] sistema [1:05:51] ng [1:05:52] real-time [1:05:53] na [1:05:54] cross-referencing [1:05:55] kapag may [1:05:56] isang [1:05:56] set na [1:05:57] ng [1:05:57] identity [1:05:58] data [1:05:59] and then [1:05:59] mag-reappear [1:06:00] somewhere else [1:06:01] under a [1:06:01] different [1:06:02] identity [1:06:02] so [1:06:03] dapat may [1:06:04] may [1:06:05] some kind [1:06:05] of [1:06:06] kung hindi [1:06:06] man [1:06:06] presumption [1:06:07] of [1:06:07] ill-intent [1:06:08] may [1:06:09] natural [1:06:09] alarm [1:06:12] or [1:06:12] kahit [1:06:13] kaunting [1:06:13] suspicion [1:06:14] given [1:06:15] the recent [1:06:15] history [1:06:16] i-check [1:06:16] ka aga [1:06:17] dito [1:06:17] at mapigilan [1:06:18] kung mayroong [1:06:18] papuntang [1:06:19] malign [1:06:20] intent [1:06:22] na naman po [1:06:22] so [1:06:23] salamat po [1:06:23] director [1:06:24] from our [1:06:26] discussion [1:06:26] i-check [1:06:27] i-check [1:06:27] on [1:06:27] muna [1:06:27] sa [1:06:27] paok [1:06:28] yes sir [1:06:30] sir [1:06:32] madarang [1:06:33] yung sa inyo [1:06:34] naman po [1:06:35] kinokonduct [1:06:35] din na [1:06:36] anti-pogo [1:06:37] raids [1:06:37] ano po [1:06:38] yung mga [1:06:38] findings [1:06:39] ninyo [1:06:39] sa kasalukuyan [1:06:40] as [1:06:41] salabi [1:06:43] ni [1:06:43] director [1:06:44] matibang [1:06:44] we'll [1:06:46] also [1:06:48] continuing [1:06:49] mapping [1:06:50] up [1:06:50] yung [1:06:51] mga [1:06:51] reported [1:06:51] na [1:06:52] sabi [1:06:53] mo nga [1:06:53] mam [1:06:53] guerilla [1:06:54] pogo [1:06:54] and [1:06:55] very closely [1:06:56] in coordination [1:06:57] and with [1:06:58] the [1:06:58] law [1:06:59] and [1:06:59] personally [1:06:59] yung [1:07:00] bi [1:07:00] and [1:07:01] bi [1:07:01] the [1:07:02] the [1:07:03] philippine [1:07:03] national [1:07:03] place [1:07:04] also [1:07:04] with [1:07:05] the [1:07:05] afb [1:07:06] ma'am [1:07:06] continuous [1:07:08] pa rin [1:07:08] yung [1:07:08] mapping [1:07:09] ng [1:07:09] paok [1:07:11] ma'am [1:07:12] with [1:07:12] regards [1:07:12] to [1:07:12] this [1:07:13] reported [1:07:14] po [1:07:14] na [1:07:15] nag [1:07:16] nagsuso [1:07:17] face [1:07:17] ka naman [1:07:18] mo [1:07:18] tulad po [1:07:20] ng [1:07:20] NBI [1:07:21] meron na [1:07:22] rin po [1:07:22] bang [1:07:22] nag [1:07:22] emerge [1:07:23] ng [1:07:23] mga [1:07:23] proposed [1:07:25] recommendations [1:07:25] ang [1:07:27] commission [1:07:28] para sa [1:07:28] report [1:07:30] ng aming [1:07:30] committee [1:07:31] dito sa [1:07:31] Joseph C. [1:07:32] case study [1:07:32] We'll [1:07:33] have that [1:07:34] ma'am [1:07:34] from time [1:07:36] to time [1:07:36] ma'am [1:07:36] we're [1:07:37] calling [1:07:37] for [1:07:37] interagency [1:07:38] coordination [1:07:39] kung may [1:07:39] mga [1:07:40] reported [1:07:40] and [1:07:41] we're [1:07:41] taking [1:07:42] action [1:07:42] kung [1:07:42] anong [1:07:44] dapat [1:07:45] na [1:07:46] mas [1:07:47] magandang [1:07:47] gawin [1:07:48] sa [1:07:48] future [1:07:49] kung [1:07:49] planning [1:07:50] natin [1:07:51] Salamat [1:07:52] po [1:07:53] Sir [1:07:53] Madarang [1:07:54] unfortunately [1:07:55] wala nga [1:07:56] si [1:07:56] Mr. [1:07:57] C [1:07:57] Meron na [1:07:59] po bang [1:07:59] medical [1:08:00] certificate [1:08:01] na natanggap [1:08:02] ang [1:08:02] committee [1:08:02] from [1:08:03] the [1:08:03] Makati [1:08:04] Medical [1:08:04] Center [1:08:05] Consec [1:08:06] Madam Chair [1:08:07] as of [1:08:07] now [1:08:07] we have [1:08:08] not [1:08:08] received [1:08:08] yet [1:08:08] It's [1:08:09] one [1:08:10] forthcoming [1:08:10] attorney [1:08:11] Malionga [1:08:11] during [1:08:12] this [1:08:12] hearing [1:08:12] Sorry [1:08:14] your [1:08:14] honor [1:08:15] I [1:08:15] follow [1:08:15] up [1:08:16] now [1:08:16] I [1:08:16] was [1:08:16] not [1:08:17] aware [1:08:17] I [1:08:17] was [1:08:18] supposed [1:08:18] to [1:08:18] do [1:08:18] it [1:08:18] during [1:08:19] the [1:08:19] hearing [1:08:19] your [1:08:19] honor [1:08:19] so [1:08:20] sorry [1:08:20] if [1:08:21] possible [1:08:21] po [1:08:22] para [1:08:22] din [1:08:22] ma-action [1:08:23] na [1:08:23] namin [1:08:23] from [1:08:24] Senate [1:08:25] Clinic [1:08:25] just [1:08:25] to [1:08:26] confirm [1:08:26] these [1:08:28] contents [1:08:29] of the [1:08:29] med [1:08:29] sir [1:08:29] Thank you [1:08:31] Could I [1:08:38] ask [1:08:38] the [1:08:38] NSA [1:08:39] or [1:08:41] Sir [1:08:42] Jericho [1:08:43] Good [1:08:44] morning [1:08:45] Sir [1:08:46] Similar [1:08:47] sa [1:08:47] earlier [1:08:47] discussions [1:08:48] sa [1:08:49] NBI [1:08:49] at pati [1:08:50] sa BI [1:08:50] meron [1:08:51] po bang [1:08:51] nakikitang [1:08:52] national [1:08:54] security [1:08:54] angle [1:08:55] ang [1:08:56] NSC [1:08:56] dito [1:08:57] sa [1:08:57] kaso [1:08:58] ni [1:08:58] Joseph [1:08:58] C [1:08:58] Yeah [1:09:02] in [1:09:02] context [1:09:02] madam [1:09:03] chair [1:09:03] yes [1:09:04] yes [1:09:04] madam [1:09:05] chair [1:09:05] but [1:09:07] as [1:09:07] mentioned [1:09:09] earlier [1:09:10] and [1:09:10] with [1:09:11] the [1:09:11] query [1:09:11] of [1:09:12] the [1:09:12] chair [1:09:13] person [1:09:14] is [1:09:14] is [1:09:14] there [1:09:14] an [1:09:15] action [1:09:15] being [1:09:15] taken [1:09:16] by [1:09:16] by [1:09:17] the [1:09:17] executive [1:09:17] department [1:09:18] yes [1:09:19] thank [1:09:20] you [1:09:20] also [1:09:20] for [1:09:21] the [1:09:22] legislature [1:09:23] of [1:09:23] the [1:09:23] anti [1:09:23] POGO [1:09:24] Act [1:09:24] which [1:09:25] since [1:09:26] 19 [1:09:26] since [1:09:27] 2024 [1:09:28] we [1:09:28] were [1:09:28] able [1:09:28] to [1:09:29] curb [1:09:29] all [1:09:30] of [1:09:30] with [1:09:31] the [1:09:32] help [1:09:32] of [1:09:32] the [1:09:32] POC [1:09:32] as [1:09:33] well [1:09:33] yeah [1:09:36] the [1:09:37] question [1:09:38] earlier [1:09:38] posted [1:09:39] by [1:09:39] the [1:09:40] director [1:09:40] of [1:09:41] the [1:09:41] NBI [1:09:41] we [1:09:42] support [1:09:42] them [1:09:43] this [1:09:43] has [1:09:43] been [1:09:44] the [1:09:44] call [1:09:44] of [1:09:45] the [1:09:46] law [1:09:46] enforcement [1:09:46] agency [1:09:47] is [1:09:48] there [1:09:48] a [1:09:48] way [1:09:48] that [1:09:49] we [1:09:49] can [1:09:49] cancel [1:09:50] the [1:09:50] registration [1:09:51] specifically [1:09:52] madam [1:09:53] chair [1:09:53] because [1:09:54] this [1:09:54] is [1:09:55] where [1:09:55] if [1:09:56] we [1:09:57] say [1:09:57] the [1:09:57] root [1:09:58] of [1:09:58] the [1:09:59] ill [1:09:59] intent [1:10:00] of [1:10:00] gaining [1:10:01] the [1:10:03] Filipino [1:10:03] citizenship [1:10:05] citizenship [1:10:05] of [1:10:06] an [1:10:07] individual [1:10:08] that [1:10:08] intends [1:10:08] to [1:10:09] do [1:10:10] business [1:10:10] as [1:10:11] it [1:10:12] has [1:10:12] been [1:10:12] discussed [1:10:13] thoroughly [1:10:13] earlier [1:10:15] Madam Chair [1:10:15] At meron na po tayong [1:10:16] demonstrated [1:10:17] na [1:10:18] capacity [1:10:18] to cancel [1:10:19] late [1:10:20] registration [1:10:21] at itatanong ko [1:10:22] rin sa PSA [1:10:23] mamaya [1:10:23] in the [1:10:24] case of [1:10:24] Alice Guwo [1:10:25] nagrecommend [1:10:26] ng PSA [1:10:27] umaksyo ng [1:10:27] Office of the [1:10:28] Solicitor [1:10:29] General [1:10:29] para i-cancel [1:10:30] yung birth [1:10:31] certificate [1:10:31] po na [1:10:32] iyon [1:10:32] yes [1:10:33] Madam Chair [1:10:33] so [1:10:34] with [1:10:34] that [1:10:34] if [1:10:34] possible [1:10:35] we [1:10:35] could [1:10:36] continuously [1:10:36] sustain [1:10:38] that [1:10:39] effort [1:10:39] mind [1:10:40] you [1:10:41] Madam Chair [1:10:42] that's [1:10:42] what [1:10:42] presented [1:10:43] by the [1:10:43] NBI [1:10:44] director [1:10:44] on the [1:10:45] case [1:10:45] that [1:10:46] they [1:10:46] have [1:10:46] conducted [1:10:46] there [1:10:47] are [1:10:47] about [1:10:47] over [1:10:47] 1,000 [1:10:48] Chinese [1:10:49] national [1:10:50] well [1:10:51] we don't [1:10:51] know [1:10:52] what [1:10:52] nationality [1:10:53] is it [1:10:53] is it [1:10:54] but [1:10:55] it's [1:10:55] over [1:10:55] 1,000 [1:10:56] that [1:10:56] they [1:10:57] acquire [1:10:58] the [1:10:59] late [1:10:59] registration [1:11:00] since [1:11:01] if [1:11:02] these [1:11:02] are [1:11:02] foreign [1:11:02] national [1:11:03] acquiring [1:11:04] late [1:11:04] registration [1:11:05] and [1:11:06] subsequently [1:11:06] can [1:11:07] acquire [1:11:07] a [1:11:08] Filipino [1:11:08] citizenship [1:11:09] it [1:11:10] will [1:11:11] be [1:11:11] a [1:11:11] great [1:11:12] challenge [1:11:12] on the [1:11:13] part [1:11:13] of [1:11:13] our [1:11:15] national [1:11:16] sovereignty [1:11:16] so [1:11:17] if [1:11:18] we [1:11:18] could [1:11:19] sustain [1:11:19] that [1:11:20] on [1:11:20] what [1:11:20] we [1:11:20] have [1:11:20] done [1:11:21] with [1:11:21] Alice [1:11:21] Go [1:11:22] as [1:11:23] we [1:11:23] have [1:11:24] been [1:11:24] here [1:11:24] discussing [1:11:25] the [1:11:26] case [1:11:26] of [1:11:26] Joseph [1:11:27] C [1:11:27] as [1:11:28] Alice [1:11:28] Go [1:11:29] 2.2 [1:11:29] it [1:11:30] will [1:11:30] be [1:11:30] very [1:11:31] helpful [1:11:31] to [1:11:31] the [1:11:31] law [1:11:32] enforcement [1:11:32] agency [1:11:33] if [1:11:34] we [1:11:34] could [1:11:34] immediately [1:11:35] sustain [1:11:36] the [1:11:36] cancellation [1:11:37] of [1:11:38] the [1:11:38] registration [1:11:39] of [1:11:40] that [1:11:40] birth [1:11:42] certificate [1:11:43] itself [1:11:43] per se [1:11:44] because [1:11:44] if we [1:11:46] find [1:11:47] these [1:11:47] processes [1:11:48] it all [1:11:49] started [1:11:49] at the [1:11:50] register [1:11:51] of [1:11:51] deeds [1:11:51] it's [1:11:53] entirely [1:11:54] different [1:11:54] of the [1:11:55] executive [1:11:55] department [1:11:56] which is [1:11:57] the [1:11:57] local [1:11:57] government [1:11:58] code [1:11:58] that [1:11:58] we [1:11:59] see [1:11:59] which [1:12:00] has [1:12:00] its [1:12:00] own [1:12:01] independence [1:12:05] as [1:12:06] well [1:12:06] and [1:12:07] the [1:12:07] process [1:12:08] of [1:12:08] the [1:12:08] other [1:12:09] acquisition [1:12:11] of [1:12:12] a [1:12:12] legal [1:12:12] document [1:12:13] that [1:12:14] leads [1:12:14] the [1:12:14] process [1:12:15] with [1:12:16] the [1:12:16] executive [1:12:16] department [1:12:17] like [1:12:17] the [1:12:17] PSA [1:12:18] of [1:12:19] issuing [1:12:19] a [1:12:20] birth [1:12:20] certificate [1:12:21] which is [1:12:22] a [1:12:22] legal [1:12:22] document [1:12:23] now [1:12:23] which [1:12:24] could [1:12:24] subsequently [1:12:24] process [1:12:25] a [1:12:26] passport [1:12:27] of an [1:12:27] individual [1:12:28] and [1:12:28] eventually [1:12:29] acquiring [1:12:30] a [1:12:31] Filipino [1:12:31] citizenship [1:12:32] which [1:12:33] as [1:12:33] mentioned [1:12:34] earlier [1:12:34] and [1:12:35] has [1:12:35] been [1:12:35] discussed [1:12:36] thoroughly [1:12:36] the [1:12:37] benefits [1:12:37] of [1:12:38] acquiring [1:12:38] of a [1:12:38] Filipino [1:12:39] citizenship [1:12:39] as [1:12:40] mentioned [1:12:40] why [1:12:41] other [1:12:41] foreign [1:12:42] national [1:12:42] wants [1:12:43] to [1:12:43] acquire [1:12:44] a [1:12:44] Filipino [1:12:44] citizenship [1:12:45] while [1:12:46] Filipinos [1:12:46] want [1:12:46] to [1:12:47] acquire [1:12:47] other [1:12:48] other [1:12:48] citizenship [1:12:49] for a [1:12:50] greener [1:12:51] posture [1:12:51] it's [1:12:52] more on [1:12:52] economic [1:12:52] and business [1:12:53] processes [1:12:54] so [1:12:55] with a [1:12:56] heed [1:12:56] or with [1:12:57] a call [1:12:57] of the [1:12:58] NBI [1:12:58] director [1:12:59] if we [1:12:59] could [1:12:59] cancel [1:13:00] all of [1:13:00] this [1:13:00] over [1:13:01] 1,000 [1:13:01] acquired [1:13:03] late [1:13:04] registration [1:13:04] birth [1:13:05] certificate [1:13:06] at the [1:13:06] level [1:13:07] of this [1:13:07] committee [1:13:07] will be [1:13:08] very [1:13:08] thankful [1:13:09] on the [1:13:10] part of [1:13:11] this [1:13:11] committee [1:13:11] Madam Chair [1:13:12] Salamat [1:13:13] Sir [1:13:14] Heriko [1:13:14] of course [1:13:15] ideally [1:13:16] source of [1:13:17] pride [1:13:17] nating [1:13:18] mga [1:13:18] Pilipino [1:13:18] kapag [1:13:19] may mga [1:13:19] dayuhan [1:13:19] gustong [1:13:20] maging [1:13:20] Pilipino [1:13:21] and we [1:13:21] have [1:13:21] examples [1:13:22] nung [1:13:23] mga [1:13:23] dumaan [1:13:23] sa [1:13:24] tamang [1:13:24] proseso [1:13:25] and [1:13:25] have [1:13:26] continue [1:13:27] to live [1:13:27] as [1:13:28] Filipino [1:13:30] citizens [1:13:30] and good [1:13:31] Filipino [1:13:31] citizens [1:13:32] pero [1:13:32] yung [1:13:33] problema [1:13:33] pinag-uusapan [1:13:34] natin [1:13:35] sinabi [1:13:35] nga [1:13:36] ni [1:13:36] NBI [1:13:37] director [1:13:37] kanina [1:13:38] dun pa [1:13:38] lang [1:13:38] sa isang [1:13:39] bayan [1:13:39] sa Santa [1:13:40] Cruz [1:13:40] Davo [1:13:40] del Sur [1:13:40] over [1:13:41] 1,400 [1:13:42] ang [1:13:43] iniinvestigin [1:13:44] ganilang [1:13:44] late [1:13:45] register [1:13:45] tapos [1:13:46] hindi [1:13:47] nagbayad [1:13:48] kahit [1:13:48] ng fees [1:13:49] para [1:13:49] sa [1:13:49] pagpoproseso [1:13:50] nun [1:13:50] and again [1:13:52] to say [1:13:52] na [1:13:52] hindi [1:13:53] lahat [1:13:53] ng [1:13:54] mga [1:13:55] kababayan [1:13:55] natin [1:13:56] na nag-apply [1:13:56] ng late [1:13:57] registration [1:13:57] ay [1:13:57] ganito [1:13:58] kumbaga [1:13:59] dubius [1:13:59] o kaduda [1:14:00] duda [1:14:00] many [1:14:02] or even [1:14:02] most [1:14:02] of them [1:14:03] will [1:14:03] find out [1:14:05] through [1:14:05] PSA [1:14:06] and [1:14:06] lahat [1:14:06] kayo [1:14:06] mga [1:14:07] ahensya [1:14:07] did that [1:14:08] in good [1:14:08] faith [1:14:09] and [1:14:10] walang [1:14:11] ill [1:14:11] intent [1:14:11] pero [1:14:12] ito [1:14:12] nga [1:14:12] yung [1:14:13] mga [1:14:13] napag-uusapan [1:14:14] natin [1:14:14] the past [1:14:15] couple [1:14:15] of years [1:14:16] Alice [1:14:16] Guo [1:14:17] we're [1:14:17] talking [1:14:18] about [1:14:18] the case [1:14:19] of [1:14:19] Joseph [1:14:19] C [1:14:19] meron [1:14:20] ng [1:14:20] Alice [1:14:21] Guo [1:14:22] 2.0 [1:14:23] na si [1:14:23] Lin [1:14:24] Go [1:14:25] Basel [1:14:26] may [1:14:28] mga [1:14:29] ginagawa [1:14:32] ito [1:14:32] for [1:14:32] ill [1:14:33] intent [1:14:33] and [1:14:33] we have [1:14:34] to put [1:14:35] a stop [1:14:36] to that [1:14:37] talaga [1:14:37] so [1:14:38] and [1:14:40] kapag [1:14:41] and ito [1:14:42] particularly [1:14:43] sharp [1:14:43] ng NSC [1:14:44] kapag [1:14:45] may [1:14:47] perception [1:14:47] na [1:14:48] national [1:14:48] security [1:14:49] threat [1:14:50] ang isang [1:14:52] tao [1:14:52] ano yung [1:14:53] pinaka [1:14:53] judicious [1:14:54] course [1:14:55] of action [1:14:55] and again [1:14:56] hindi ko [1:14:57] lamang [1:14:57] itinatanong [1:14:58] ito [1:14:58] sa [1:14:58] NSC [1:14:59] about [1:15:00] the case [1:15:00] study [1:15:02] of [1:15:02] Joseph [1:15:03] C [1:15:03] pero [1:15:04] dun [1:15:04] sa [1:15:04] madami [1:15:05] dami [1:15:05] na [1:15:05] rin [1:15:05] mga [1:15:06] sinasabing [1:15:06] peking [1:15:07] Pilipino [1:15:08] na [1:15:08] nadidiskubre [1:15:09] ng ating [1:15:10] mga [1:15:10] ahensya [1:15:10] particularly [1:15:11] in the [1:15:12] wake [1:15:13] of the [1:15:13] Alice [1:15:13] Guho [1:15:13] case [1:15:14] ano yung [1:15:15] judicious [1:15:15] course [1:15:16] of action [1:15:16] kung [1:15:16] national [1:15:18] security [1:15:18] threat [1:15:18] or possibly [1:15:19] national [1:15:20] security [1:15:20] threat [1:15:21] ang isang [1:15:21] ganitong [1:15:22] klaseng [1:15:22] tao [1:15:23] as [1:15:27] discussed [1:15:27] earlier [1:15:28] Madam [1:15:28] Chair [1:15:28] at the [1:15:30] level [1:15:30] of [1:15:30] the [1:15:31] participants [1:15:31] here [1:15:32] as [1:15:32] being [1:15:33] resource [1:15:33] person [1:15:34] we [1:15:35] already [1:15:35] we have [1:15:37] done [1:15:37] a lot [1:15:37] of [1:15:37] proactive [1:15:38] measures [1:15:39] we [1:15:40] have [1:15:41] seen [1:15:41] results [1:15:42] we [1:15:42] have [1:15:43] been [1:15:43] able [1:15:44] to [1:15:44] implement [1:15:44] law [1:15:45] enforcement [1:15:45] with [1:15:46] all [1:15:46] the [1:15:47] available [1:15:48] present [1:15:49] law [1:15:49] enforcement [1:15:50] agencies [1:15:50] that we [1:15:51] do [1:15:51] have [1:15:51] so [1:15:52] even [1:15:55] we could [1:15:56] see [1:15:57] the reports [1:16:00] we have [1:16:00] been [1:16:00] presented [1:16:00] to [1:16:01] that's [1:16:01] why [1:16:02] we are [1:16:03] able [1:16:03] to [1:16:04] come up [1:16:05] with [1:16:05] an [1:16:06] action [1:16:07] in [1:16:08] the [1:16:10] aspect [1:16:11] of [1:16:11] a [1:16:12] threat [1:16:13] that [1:16:13] is [1:16:13] being [1:16:13] posed [1:16:14] to [1:16:14] our [1:16:14] national [1:16:15] security [1:16:15] and [1:16:17] in [1:16:17] some [1:16:18] cases [1:16:18] if [1:16:19] this [1:16:19] is [1:16:20] not [1:16:20] at [1:16:21] the [1:16:21] level [1:16:21] of [1:16:22] national [1:16:22] security [1:16:23] we [1:16:23] are [1:16:24] certain [1:16:25] and [1:16:25] we [1:16:26] are [1:16:26] definite [1:16:26] that [1:16:27] our [1:16:27] law [1:16:29] enforcement [1:16:30] agencies [1:16:30] are [1:16:31] still [1:16:31] on [1:16:31] top [1:16:32] of [1:16:32] the [1:16:32] situation [1:16:33] and [1:16:34] mind [1:16:35] you [1:16:35] Madam [1:16:36] Chair [1:16:36] as [1:16:36] mentioned [1:16:37] earlier [1:16:37] by [1:16:37] the [1:16:37] Bureau [1:16:38] of [1:16:38] Immigration [1:16:38] it [1:16:39] has [1:16:39] been [1:16:39] their [1:16:40] desire [1:16:40] to [1:16:41] have [1:16:41] this [1:16:41] Bureau [1:16:43] of [1:16:43] Immigration [1:16:44] Act [1:16:44] which [1:16:45] has [1:16:45] been [1:16:45] discussed [1:16:46] even [1:16:47] in [1:16:47] the [1:16:48] presidential [1:16:48] legislative [1:16:49] liaison [1:16:50] office [1:16:51] for [1:16:51] several [1:16:52] years [1:16:52] now [1:16:53] in [1:16:53] terms [1:16:53] of [1:16:54] border [1:16:54] control [1:16:55] in [1:16:55] terms [1:16:56] of [1:16:56] the [1:16:56] modernization [1:16:57] of [1:16:57] the [1:16:57] National [1:16:57] Bureau [1:16:58] of [1:16:58] Immigration [1:16:58] as [1:16:59] well [1:16:59] this [1:16:59] has [1:16:59] been [1:16:59] also [1:17:00] discussed [1:17:00] so [1:17:01] in [1:17:02] some [1:17:02] other [1:17:03] aspects [1:17:03] this [1:17:04] may [1:17:04] lead [1:17:05] to [1:17:05] national [1:17:06] security [1:17:06] concerns [1:17:07] as [1:17:07] being [1:17:08] affected [1:17:08] with [1:17:09] all of [1:17:09] this [1:17:10] interconnected [1:17:11] situation [1:17:12] but [1:17:13] it is [1:17:14] still [1:17:14] more [1:17:15] on [1:17:15] the [1:17:16] actions [1:17:17] being [1:17:17] undertaken [1:17:18] by our [1:17:19] law [1:17:19] enforcement [1:17:19] when it [1:17:20] comes to [1:17:21] all of [1:17:22] these [1:17:22] illegal [1:17:23] actions [1:17:24] being [1:17:24] conducted [1:17:24] by [1:17:25] other [1:17:26] foreign [1:17:29] institutions [1:17:32] or [1:17:32] interference [1:17:33] being [1:17:33] undertaken [1:17:34] in our [1:17:34] country [1:17:35] on [1:17:36] the [1:17:38] other [1:17:38] aspect [1:17:38] Madam [1:17:39] Chair [1:17:39] we [1:17:39] also [1:17:40] want [1:17:40] just [1:17:41] to [1:17:41] have [1:17:41] a [1:17:42] recommendation [1:17:42] on [1:17:44] the [1:17:44] amendment [1:17:48] of [1:17:48] the [1:17:48] 1930 [1:17:50] civil [1:17:51] registration [1:17:52] law [1:17:53] which [1:17:53] is [1:17:53] the [1:17:55] PSA [1:17:56] audit [1:17:57] as [1:17:57] well [1:17:57] Madam [1:17:58] Chair [1:17:58] so [1:17:59] if [1:17:59] this [1:17:59] could [1:17:59] be [1:18:00] enhanced [1:18:01] or [1:18:01] strengthened [1:18:02] on the [1:18:03] part [1:18:04] of [1:18:04] our [1:18:05] government [1:18:05] this [1:18:05] would [1:18:05] be [1:18:06] very [1:18:06] helpful [1:18:06] on our [1:18:08] part [1:18:09] Thank you [1:18:10] Sir Erico, well taken yung mga [1:18:12] proposed recommendations [1:18:14] para sa committee report because [1:18:16] the committee would really like to [1:18:18] contribute na mapigilan yung [1:18:20] mga attempted abuses from [1:18:22] outside and mapalakas [1:18:25] internally yung mga sistema [1:18:26] natin as any self-respecting [1:18:28] country would do. So, salamat po. [1:18:30] And yung mga [1:18:31] inputs nyo po, it's a perfect [1:18:34] platform to turn na to the [1:18:36] PSA. Yes, sir. [1:18:39] So, attorney, ang batali, okay. [1:18:41] Good morning, Madam Chair. Nag-emerge po kayong [1:18:43] kung hindi pinaka, isa sa [1:18:45] pinaka-importanting ahensya sa [1:18:47] kasong ito. So, balikan lang po [1:18:49] natin. Ano na [1:18:52] ngayon yung final na findings [1:18:54] ng PSA sa birth [1:18:56] certificate ni [1:18:58] Joseph C. At ano-ano yung mga [1:18:59] irregularities dito [1:19:01] na na-establish [1:19:03] ng inyong authority? Yes, [1:19:06] Madam Chair. [1:19:08] Based dun sa investigation [1:19:10] namin na kinandak, actually [1:19:13] investigation ng fraud [1:19:14] management division nito, [1:19:16] ng PSA, [1:19:18] we found out that [1:19:19] there is [1:19:20] evidence that [1:19:23] would say [1:19:24] na merong [1:19:26] kung baga merong mga [1:19:29] procurement ng [1:19:30] fake documents [1:19:33] during the registration. [1:19:34] So, as we have been [1:19:35] explaining, this [1:19:36] type of fraud [1:19:37] is the second [1:19:38] type, which is [1:19:39] it happens at the [1:19:40] source. [1:19:41] It happens at the [1:19:42] source during the [1:19:43] registration. So, [1:19:44] these are [1:19:45] fake yung [1:19:46] baptismal [1:19:47] certificate, [1:19:48] fake yung [1:19:49] hindi [1:19:50] makita yung [1:19:51] birth records [1:19:52] ng mga magulang, [1:19:54] hindi rin namin [1:19:54] makita yung [1:19:55] mga records [1:19:56] ng [1:19:56] hilot [1:19:58] or yung [1:19:59] attending [1:20:00] person during [1:20:01] the time of [1:20:01] birth, [1:20:02] something like [1:20:03] that, [1:20:03] Your Honor. [1:20:04] And we have [1:20:05] already endorsed [1:20:06] this and [1:20:06] as of now, [1:20:08] the OSG [1:20:09] has already [1:20:10] filed the [1:20:10] case for [1:20:12] the petition [1:20:12] for cancellation [1:20:13] of birth [1:20:14] records [1:20:14] of [1:20:15] Joseph C. [1:20:18] So, [1:20:19] na-file na po [1:20:19] ito, [1:20:20] Your Honor. [1:20:22] Okay, that is [1:20:23] good news. [1:20:24] Kasi yung [1:20:25] nagawa nyo [1:20:26] na nung [1:20:26] kaso ni [1:20:27] Alice Guo, [1:20:28] please you [1:20:28] have set [1:20:29] that same [1:20:30] process in [1:20:30] motion kaugnay [1:20:31] ni Joseph [1:20:32] C. [1:20:33] Okay, [1:20:33] that is [1:20:34] good news po [1:20:35] kasi how [1:20:36] can we [1:20:36] tolerate [1:20:37] the use of [1:20:39] fake documents [1:20:40] to procure [1:20:40] fake citizenship [1:20:41] and to [1:20:42] allow [1:20:43] a foreigner [1:20:44] acting in [1:20:45] bad faith [1:20:45] to then [1:20:46] pose as [1:20:46] a fake [1:20:47] Filipino. [1:20:48] So, [1:20:48] salamat para [1:20:49] sa good [1:20:51] news na [1:20:51] yan. [1:20:51] It continues [1:20:53] to set a [1:20:53] good precedent [1:20:54] following on [1:20:56] the heels [1:20:56] for example [1:20:56] of yung [1:20:57] iniimbestiga [1:20:58] ng NBI [1:20:59] na more [1:20:59] than [1:20:59] 1,400 [1:21:00] sa Davao [1:21:01] del Sur [1:21:01] and how [1:21:02] many others [1:21:02] in other [1:21:03] parts [1:21:03] of the [1:21:04] country [1:21:05] in order [1:21:07] to aid [1:21:07] such [1:21:08] processes [1:21:08] bukod pa [1:21:09] po sa [1:21:09] exclusion [1:21:10] na [1:21:10] recommendation [1:21:11] din [1:21:11] ng [1:21:12] bureau [1:21:12] nila. [1:21:14] So, [1:21:14] good. [1:21:15] You [1:21:15] already [1:21:15] answered [1:21:16] my [1:21:16] follow-up [1:21:16] question [1:21:17] na kung [1:21:17] may [1:21:17] koordinasyon [1:21:18] na kayo [1:21:18] sa OSG [1:21:19] para dun [1:21:19] sa cancellation [1:21:20] ng birth [1:21:21] certificate [1:21:21] ni Mr. [1:21:23] C. [1:21:23] And quickly [1:21:24] sa OSG, [1:21:25] will it be [1:21:25] Sir Kundangan? [1:21:26] So, [1:21:27] based on that, [1:21:29] nag-file na po [1:21:29] ng kaso [1:21:30] ang OSG [1:21:31] para makansela nga po [1:21:32] yung birth [1:21:33] certificate [1:21:33] ni Joseph C.? [1:21:34] Yes, [1:21:35] Madam Chair, [1:21:36] good morning po. [1:21:37] Good morning. [1:21:37] For the record, [1:21:38] the OSG filed [1:21:39] on October 12, [1:21:40] 2026 [1:21:41] the case [1:21:42] against Joseph C. [1:21:43] And the [1:21:44] initial hearing [1:21:45] is set on [1:21:46] January 27, [1:21:47] 2026. [1:21:49] With your [1:21:49] permission po, [1:21:51] Madam Chair, [1:21:52] can we make [1:21:53] a recommendation [1:21:53] jumping from [1:21:54] the manifestation [1:21:55] of the NBI [1:21:56] director [1:21:57] as well [1:21:57] as the [1:21:57] NSE po? [1:21:58] Yes, [1:21:59] please. [1:21:59] Babalik ako [1:21:59] sa PSA [1:22:00] mamaya konti [1:22:01] but for now, [1:22:01] please proceed [1:22:02] Sir Kundangan [1:22:03] for the OSG. [1:22:03] We are the same [1:22:04] group who handled [1:22:05] the Alice Guwo [1:22:06] cancellation [1:22:07] for Madam Chair. [1:22:08] And for the record, [1:22:10] the OSG filed [1:22:11] the Alice Guwo [1:22:12] cancellation [1:22:13] on July 4, [1:22:17] 2024 [1:22:17] but the RTC [1:22:19] issued a favorable [1:22:20] decision [1:22:20] in favor of the Republic [1:22:22] on September 24, [1:22:23] 2025. [1:22:24] It took us [1:22:25] more than one year. [1:22:27] The OSG [1:22:28] has been [1:22:28] clamoring [1:22:29] for an amendment [1:22:31] for the [1:22:33] passing of a law [1:22:34] for the [1:22:35] administrative [1:22:36] cancellation [1:22:37] of late [1:22:39] registration [1:22:40] of foreign [1:22:41] national. [1:22:42] Under the [1:22:43] civil code [1:22:43] Madam Chair, [1:22:45] we need [1:22:45] a judicial [1:22:46] order. [1:22:48] The absurdity [1:22:49] of the [1:22:49] situation, [1:22:51] a late [1:22:51] registration [1:22:52] is an [1:22:52] administrative [1:22:53] process. [1:22:54] But to [1:22:54] cancel the [1:22:55] same, [1:22:56] you need [1:22:56] a judicial [1:22:56] process. [1:22:57] Oo nga, [1:22:58] mas mahirap [1:22:58] yung exit [1:22:59] kesa yung [1:22:59] entry. [1:23:00] Even if [1:23:01] harm is [1:23:01] being done. [1:23:01] It's like [1:23:02] a marriage [1:23:02] po eh. [1:23:04] Madaling [1:23:04] pasukin, [1:23:05] mahirap [1:23:06] labasan. [1:23:07] Relevant [1:23:10] yan para [1:23:10] sa ibang [1:23:11] komite, [1:23:11] but very [1:23:12] relevant. [1:23:14] Siguro we [1:23:15] talked about [1:23:15] it on [1:23:16] some other [1:23:16] days, [1:23:17] but not [1:23:17] to do. [1:23:17] Yes, [1:23:17] in relation [1:23:18] to another [1:23:18] important [1:23:19] bill. [1:23:20] I agree, [1:23:20] Madam Chair. [1:23:21] Moving [1:23:21] forward, [1:23:22] the OSG [1:23:23] is proposing [1:23:24] for an [1:23:24] amendment [1:23:25] on the [1:23:26] passing of [1:23:28] the law [1:23:28] for an [1:23:29] administrative [1:23:29] cancellation [1:23:30] specifically [1:23:31] of [1:23:32] foreign [1:23:33] national, [1:23:33] if it [1:23:36] is [1:23:36] application [1:23:39] for [1:23:40] late [1:23:40] registration [1:23:41] of [1:23:41] foreign [1:23:41] national, [1:23:42] it can [1:23:42] be done [1:23:43] admissively. [1:23:44] I agree [1:23:44] with the [1:23:45] position [1:23:45] of the [1:23:46] NBI [1:23:47] and the [1:23:47] NSC. [1:23:48] In order [1:23:50] for us [1:23:51] to address [1:23:51] the issue, [1:23:52] kailangan [1:23:52] po immediate [1:23:53] po yung [1:23:54] action [1:23:54] po ng [1:23:54] government. [1:23:56] Unfortunately, [1:23:57] the prototype [1:23:57] of Alice [1:23:58] Guo, [1:23:59] the government [1:23:59] expense [1:24:01] is so [1:24:02] numerous [1:24:03] po sa [1:24:03] publication [1:24:03] alone. [1:24:05] Publication [1:24:06] alone. [1:24:06] Napakadali [1:24:07] pong [1:24:07] magpa-late [1:24:08] registration, [1:24:09] napakahira [1:24:09] pong [1:24:10] i-cancel [1:24:11] po yung [1:24:11] late [1:24:11] registration. [1:24:12] Madali [1:24:13] at libre [1:24:14] pa [1:24:14] kung sa [1:24:14] Santa [1:24:15] Cruz. [1:24:15] Yes. [1:24:16] As a matter [1:24:16] of fact [1:24:17] po, [1:24:18] the PSA [1:24:18] already [1:24:19] endorsed [1:24:19] the [1:24:19] 1,400. [1:24:22] The [1:24:22] OSG, [1:24:23] in order [1:24:23] for us [1:24:23] to address [1:24:24] that, [1:24:24] it will [1:24:25] entail [1:24:26] a lot [1:24:26] of public [1:24:27] funds [1:24:27] for [1:24:28] publication [1:24:28] alone. [1:24:30] And [1:24:30] then, [1:24:30] warm [1:24:31] bodies [1:24:31] attending [1:24:32] court [1:24:32] hearings [1:24:33] for the [1:24:33] cancellation. [1:24:34] The [1:24:34] Alice [1:24:34] Guo [1:24:35] po, [1:24:35] solicitors [1:24:36] coming [1:24:36] from [1:24:37] Manila [1:24:37] will [1:24:38] go to [1:24:38] Tarlac [1:24:38] to [1:24:39] appear [1:24:39] personally. [1:24:41] Ngayon po, [1:24:42] yun pong [1:24:42] administrative, [1:24:44] the quantum [1:24:45] of evidence [1:24:45] is [1:24:45] milisubstansyal. [1:24:47] Pagka po [1:24:48] nag-court [1:24:49] case po [1:24:49] tayo, [1:24:50] it will [1:24:50] take a [1:24:51] lot [1:24:51] of time. [1:24:52] Doon po [1:24:53] nagkakaroon [1:24:53] po ng [1:24:53] problema. [1:24:54] Even [1:24:54] the law [1:24:55] enforcer [1:24:55] will be [1:24:57] doing [1:24:57] their [1:24:58] job. [1:24:59] Humihinto [1:24:59] po doon [1:25:00] po [1:25:00] sa [1:25:01] cancellation [1:25:02] itself. [1:25:02] Even [1:25:03] if [1:25:03] harm [1:25:03] has [1:25:04] already [1:25:04] been [1:25:04] done [1:25:04] or [1:25:05] harm [1:25:05] is [1:25:05] continuing [1:25:05] to [1:25:06] be [1:25:06] done. [1:25:06] Yes. [1:25:07] Parang [1:25:07] continuing [1:25:08] crime [1:25:08] siya. [1:25:10] In order [1:25:11] for us [1:25:11] to [1:25:11] address [1:25:12] the [1:25:12] issue [1:25:12] po, [1:25:13] we [1:25:13] need [1:25:13] to [1:25:13] change [1:25:14] yung [1:25:14] pong [1:25:14] system [1:25:15] of [1:25:16] cancellation. [1:25:17] Napakadaling [1:25:17] mag-apply, [1:25:19] napakahira [1:25:20] pong [1:25:20] i-cancel. [1:25:22] And I [1:25:22] see a [1:25:23] parallel, [1:25:24] Sir [1:25:24] Kundangan, [1:25:25] in a [1:25:27] law that [1:25:27] was passed [1:25:28] by the [1:25:28] Committee [1:25:29] on [1:25:29] Women, [1:25:30] a law [1:25:30] to do [1:25:31] good, [1:25:31] yung [1:25:32] domestic [1:25:33] administrative [1:25:33] adoption. [1:25:34] Previously, [1:25:35] yung [1:25:35] adoption [1:25:36] via [1:25:36] court [1:25:37] action [1:25:38] na [1:25:38] gawang [1:25:39] domestic [1:25:39] administrative [1:25:40] through [1:25:41] DSWD. [1:25:42] Ito [1:25:42] naman [1:25:42] a [1:25:43] similar [1:25:43] process [1:25:44] na [1:25:44] magkaroon [1:25:45] ng [1:25:45] administrative [1:25:46] cancellation [1:25:47] to prevent [1:25:48] harm or [1:25:48] to prevent [1:25:49] further [1:25:49] harms. [1:25:50] Limited [1:25:50] only, [1:25:51] Madam [1:25:51] Chair, [1:25:52] to late [1:25:53] registration [1:25:53] of [1:25:54] foreign [1:25:54] national. [1:25:55] If the [1:25:55] foreign [1:25:56] national [1:25:56] cannot [1:25:56] speak [1:25:57] Tagalog, [1:26:00] substantial [1:26:00] evidence, [1:26:01] or another [1:26:01] Philippine [1:26:02] language, [1:26:02] or another [1:26:03] Philippine [1:26:03] language for [1:26:04] that [1:26:04] matter, [1:26:04] a local [1:26:05] dialect, [1:26:07] yun pa [1:26:07] lang po, [1:26:07] substantial [1:26:08] evidence, [1:26:08] okay na [1:26:08] po tayo. [1:26:09] But if [1:26:09] we need [1:26:10] to undergo [1:26:11] a court [1:26:11] case, [1:26:12] we need [1:26:12] publication, [1:26:13] we need [1:26:13] hearings, [1:26:15] and it [1:26:16] can be [1:26:16] done po [1:26:16] in order [1:26:17] to address [1:26:17] the issue [1:26:18] of the [1:26:18] NBI [1:26:18] and [1:26:19] NSE po. [1:26:20] Upon [1:26:21] the decision [1:26:22] on the [1:26:22] administrative [1:26:23] level, [1:26:24] it shall [1:26:24] be [1:26:25] executory, [1:26:25] not yet [1:26:26] final, [1:26:27] and the [1:26:28] person [1:26:28] concerned [1:26:29] should [1:26:30] secure [1:26:30] a TRO [1:26:31] coming from [1:26:32] a court [1:26:32] of law [1:26:32] in order [1:26:33] to address [1:26:34] immediately. [1:26:35] Kasi po, [1:26:36] in order [1:26:36] for us [1:26:37] to begin [1:26:38] the [1:26:38] for future [1:26:38] for the [1:26:40] cancellation [1:26:41] of the [1:26:43] LTO [1:26:43] registration, [1:26:45] ang [1:26:45] depensa po [1:26:46] kasi [1:26:46] from day [1:26:47] one, [1:26:48] Filipino [1:26:49] ako, [1:26:49] i-cancel [1:26:49] mo muna [1:26:50] ako. [1:26:52] That [1:26:52] is where [1:26:53] the problem [1:26:54] is as far [1:26:54] as the [1:26:55] OASG [1:26:55] is concerned. [1:26:56] Because [1:26:56] no amount [1:26:57] of [1:26:57] complete [1:27:00] staff work [1:27:01] from the [1:27:01] law [1:27:02] enforcer [1:27:02] po. [1:27:03] If [1:27:03] dun po [1:27:04] sa [1:27:04] dulo, [1:27:05] pag [1:27:05] filing [1:27:05] na po [1:27:05] ng [1:27:06] case, [1:27:06] look at [1:27:06] Alice [1:27:07] Google, [1:27:07] it took [1:27:07] us one [1:27:08] year, [1:27:08] more than [1:27:10] one [1:27:10] year po. [1:27:13] Thank you [1:27:13] so much, [1:27:14] Sir Kundangan. [1:27:15] A very [1:27:16] helpful [1:27:16] recommendation [1:27:18] po from [1:27:19] the OASG. [1:27:19] In addition [1:27:20] dun sa [1:27:20] exclusion [1:27:21] sa NBI, [1:27:22] ito pong [1:27:22] administrative [1:27:24] cancellation [1:27:25] of late [1:27:26] registration [1:27:26] of [1:27:27] foreign [1:27:28] nationals. [1:27:28] Yes, [1:27:29] limited to [1:27:29] foreign [1:27:30] nationals. [1:27:31] Salamat po. [1:27:32] I'll return [1:27:33] to [1:27:33] OASG [1:27:34] in a [1:27:36] bit. [1:27:37] But [1:27:37] one more [1:27:38] question at [1:27:39] this point [1:27:40] sa PSA [1:27:41] po. [1:27:41] last [1:27:42] hearing [1:27:43] po [1:27:43] natin [1:27:43] dito, [1:27:44] which [1:27:44] was [1:27:44] last [1:27:45] year [1:27:45] pa, [1:27:46] sinabi [1:27:47] ni rin [1:27:47] po [1:27:47] ng [1:27:47] PSA [1:27:48] under [1:27:48] oath [1:27:48] na [1:27:49] may [1:27:50] red [1:27:50] flags [1:27:51] ang [1:27:51] birth [1:27:52] certificate [1:27:52] ni [1:27:53] Joseph [1:27:53] C. [1:27:54] In [1:27:55] hindsight, [1:27:56] but [1:27:56] important [1:27:57] lessons [1:27:58] for us [1:27:58] moving [1:27:58] forward, [1:27:59] bakit [1:27:59] po [1:27:59] hindi [1:28:00] ito [1:28:01] na-action [1:28:02] na [1:28:02] agad-agad [1:28:03] late [1:28:05] last [1:28:05] year [1:28:05] or early [1:28:06] this [1:28:06] year? [1:28:07] Actually, [1:28:08] Your Honor, [1:28:10] last [1:28:10] year, [1:28:13] we are [1:28:14] conducting [1:28:14] the [1:28:15] investigation [1:28:15] still. [1:28:16] And we [1:28:17] were done [1:28:19] with all [1:28:20] the requirements [1:28:21] kasi kailangan [1:28:21] namin talaga [1:28:22] na magkaroon [1:28:23] ng [1:28:23] mga [1:28:25] dokumento [1:28:25] for us [1:28:26] to endorse [1:28:26] it to [1:28:27] the [1:28:28] OSG. [1:28:29] So, [1:28:30] nakapag-endorse [1:28:31] kami mga [1:28:31] February [1:28:32] because of [1:28:32] the documents [1:28:33] that we need [1:28:34] to secure [1:28:35] and also [1:28:36] to be [1:28:36] transmitted [1:28:37] to the [1:28:37] OSG [1:28:38] as well. [1:28:40] So, [1:28:41] nagkaroon lang [1:28:43] ng delay [1:28:43] sa mga [1:28:44] procurement [1:28:46] namin [1:28:46] ng mga [1:28:46] documents [1:28:48] Your Honor [1:28:49] so that [1:28:49] we can [1:28:49] have [1:28:50] somehow [1:28:51] a complete [1:28:52] evidence [1:28:53] and [1:28:54] stronger [1:28:54] case [1:28:56] that we [1:28:56] can [1:28:57] file [1:28:57] for the [1:28:58] petition [1:28:58] for [1:28:58] decancellation. [1:28:59] Again, [1:29:01] no, [1:29:01] attorney [1:29:02] Ang Batali, [1:29:02] in hindsight [1:29:03] again, [1:29:04] kung kailan [1:29:05] 2020 yung [1:29:06] vision natin [1:29:06] pero sige lang [1:29:07] para [1:29:07] makompleto [1:29:09] natin yung [1:29:09] findings dito. [1:29:11] Nung previous [1:29:11] hearings din, [1:29:12] lumabas na [1:29:13] yun nga, [1:29:15] gaya ng [1:29:15] inulit nyo ngayon, [1:29:16] hindi ma-authenticate [1:29:17] yung baptismal [1:29:18] certificate, [1:29:19] questionable [1:29:19] yung notarization [1:29:20] nun, [1:29:21] walang mahanap [1:29:22] na civil registry [1:29:23] records [1:29:23] ng kanyang [1:29:24] supposed [1:29:24] parents [1:29:25] ni Joseph C. [1:29:26] So, [1:29:27] given all those [1:29:27] red flags, [1:29:29] paano [1:29:30] nakalusot [1:29:31] yung late [1:29:32] registration [1:29:32] in the [1:29:33] first place? [1:29:34] Saan po [1:29:34] nagkaroon [1:29:35] ng [1:29:35] unang [1:29:38] failure [1:29:40] ng [1:29:41] pagbantay? [1:29:43] Okay. [1:29:44] Your Honor, [1:29:46] well, [1:29:46] sinasabi nga natin [1:29:47] na this is [1:29:47] the point [1:29:48] na mag-register, [1:29:50] yun yung [1:29:51] dun nang [1:29:51] kakaroon [1:29:52] ng [1:29:52] kababalaghan. [1:29:57] So, [1:29:59] kapag [1:29:59] pumunta yung [1:30:00] isang tao [1:30:01] magpaparehistro [1:30:02] sa local [1:30:03] civil [1:30:03] registrar, [1:30:04] well, [1:30:05] the local [1:30:05] civil [1:30:05] registrar [1:30:06] is not [1:30:06] connected [1:30:07] to the [1:30:07] PSA. [1:30:08] It's [1:30:08] under the [1:30:09] local [1:30:09] government [1:30:09] unit. [1:30:11] So, [1:30:11] yung [1:30:11] sinasabi [1:30:11] ni [1:30:12] Sir [1:30:14] Herico [1:30:15] kanina [1:30:16] na [1:30:16] they [1:30:17] have [1:30:18] a [1:30:19] local [1:30:19] autonomy. [1:30:19] we [1:30:22] provide [1:30:22] the [1:30:23] technical [1:30:23] supervision [1:30:24] which [1:30:25] means [1:30:25] meron [1:30:26] tayong [1:30:26] mga [1:30:26] guidelines [1:30:27] na [1:30:27] pinapatupad [1:30:28] ng [1:30:29] mga [1:30:29] local [1:30:29] civil [1:30:30] registrar [1:30:31] but [1:30:32] this [1:30:33] hindi [1:30:36] natin [1:30:36] kaagad-agad [1:30:38] na [1:30:39] namomonitor [1:30:40] kung [1:30:40] nasusunod [1:30:41] ba [1:30:41] yung [1:30:42] guidelines. [1:30:43] Sinusunod [1:30:43] ba [1:30:44] ito [1:30:44] ng [1:30:44] mga [1:30:44] local [1:30:44] civil [1:30:45] registrars? [1:30:46] So, [1:30:47] the [1:30:47] local [1:30:47] civil [1:30:47] registrars [1:30:48] have [1:30:49] a [1:30:50] wide [1:30:50] latitude [1:30:51] of [1:30:52] discretion [1:30:52] on [1:30:53] the [1:30:53] documents [1:30:55] that [1:30:55] they [1:30:55] will [1:30:55] accept. [1:30:57] So, [1:30:57] bukod pa [1:30:58] dito, [1:31:00] medyo [1:31:00] restricted [1:31:01] ang [1:31:01] visitorial [1:31:02] powers [1:31:02] ng [1:31:03] civil [1:31:03] registrar [1:31:03] general [1:31:04] because [1:31:04] of [1:31:05] the [1:31:05] issue [1:31:06] of [1:31:06] local [1:31:06] autonomy. [1:31:08] But [1:31:09] right [1:31:09] now, [1:31:10] since [1:31:11] we [1:31:11] already [1:31:12] have [1:31:12] this [1:31:12] kind [1:31:13] of [1:31:13] cases, [1:31:14] we [1:31:14] pushed [1:31:15] for [1:31:15] the [1:31:18] audit [1:31:19] of [1:31:19] our [1:31:19] local [1:31:20] civil [1:31:20] registrars. [1:31:21] In [1:31:21] fact, [1:31:21] Your [1:31:22] Honor, [1:31:22] yung [1:31:22] sinasabi [1:31:23] kanina [1:31:23] ni [1:31:23] director [1:31:24] Matibag [1:31:25] that [1:31:26] the [1:31:27] PSA [1:31:28] has [1:31:28] released [1:31:29] a [1:31:29] number [1:31:30] of [1:31:31] purported [1:31:34] or [1:31:35] alleged [1:31:35] fraudulent [1:31:37] documents, [1:31:38] the [1:31:38] 50,000. [1:31:39] We have [1:31:40] conducted [1:31:40] an [1:31:41] analytics [1:31:41] of [1:31:42] the [1:31:44] delayed [1:31:44] registration [1:31:45] using [1:31:46] some [1:31:47] parameters [1:31:47] and [1:31:48] these [1:31:49] are [1:31:49] subjected [1:31:51] to [1:31:52] LCRO [1:31:53] audits, [1:31:55] Your [1:31:55] Honor. [1:31:57] May [1:31:57] nag-emerge [1:31:58] findings [1:31:59] dito [1:31:59] sa [1:31:59] analytics [1:32:00] nyo [1:32:00] that [1:32:01] you [1:32:01] could [1:32:02] share [1:32:02] in [1:32:02] open [1:32:02] hearing [1:32:03] or [1:32:04] otherwise [1:32:04] by [1:32:06] submission [1:32:06] in [1:32:06] writing [1:32:07] to the [1:32:07] committee? [1:32:07] Yes, [1:32:08] there are [1:32:09] some [1:32:09] findings [1:32:10] that [1:32:10] somewhere [1:32:12] in [1:32:12] Mindanao [1:32:14] specifically [1:32:14] Alyosan [1:32:16] North [1:32:17] Cotabato [1:32:18] and [1:32:18] Pikit. [1:32:19] So, [1:32:20] yun yung [1:32:20] dalawang [1:32:20] munisip [1:32:21] yung [1:32:21] binagit [1:32:21] din [1:32:21] ni [1:32:22] Director [1:32:22] Matibag [1:32:23] kanina. [1:32:23] Okay. [1:32:25] So, [1:32:26] eto po [1:32:26] yung [1:32:27] mga [1:32:27] naging [1:32:27] resulta [1:32:28] ng [1:32:28] well, [1:32:30] first [1:32:30] yung [1:32:31] analytics [1:32:31] natin [1:32:32] and [1:32:32] also [1:32:32] yung [1:32:32] conduct [1:32:34] ng [1:32:34] LCRO [1:32:35] audits. [1:32:37] By [1:32:38] the way, [1:32:38] Your [1:32:38] Honor, [1:32:39] we are [1:32:39] already [1:32:40] at [1:32:40] our [1:32:40] 73% [1:32:41] mark [1:32:42] because [1:32:42] 50,000 [1:32:43] is [1:32:43] a lot [1:32:43] of [1:32:43] cases. [1:32:46] Matatapos [1:32:46] kaya [1:32:47] kayo [1:32:47] sa [1:32:47] katapusan [1:32:47] ng taon [1:32:48] or by [1:32:48] early [1:32:49] next [1:32:49] year [1:32:49] pa po? [1:32:50] Yung [1:32:50] last [1:32:51] mile [1:32:51] yung [1:32:51] pinakamahirap [1:32:52] kasi [1:32:52] medyo [1:32:55] malalayo [1:32:55] na po [1:32:55] siya. [1:32:56] But [1:32:56] we will [1:32:57] endeavor [1:32:58] to [1:32:58] finish [1:32:59] all [1:32:59] the [1:33:00] LCRO [1:33:00] audits [1:33:01] kasi [1:33:02] pinapamobilize [1:33:04] na [1:33:04] namin [1:33:04] yung [1:33:05] aming [1:33:05] field [1:33:07] offices [1:33:07] to [1:33:08] also [1:33:08] help [1:33:09] us [1:33:09] in [1:33:10] the [1:33:10] audit [1:33:11] of [1:33:11] our [1:33:12] LCROs. [1:33:13] And [1:33:13] any [1:33:13] major [1:33:13] emerging [1:33:14] findings [1:33:14] na [1:33:15] pwedeng [1:33:15] ibahagi [1:33:16] publicly? [1:33:17] Yes, [1:33:17] Your [1:33:18] Honor. [1:33:18] And [1:33:19] also [1:33:19] we would [1:33:21] like [1:33:22] to [1:33:22] emphasize [1:33:23] also [1:33:23] that [1:33:24] we are [1:33:24] refining [1:33:24] the [1:33:25] analytics [1:33:25] based on [1:33:26] the [1:33:27] earlier [1:33:28] algorithms [1:33:29] that we [1:33:30] have [1:33:31] and we [1:33:31] would want [1:33:32] to cover [1:33:32] also by [1:33:33] next year [1:33:34] previous [1:33:35] years [1:33:35] because [1:33:35] analytics [1:33:36] is [1:33:38] covering [1:33:38] 2010 [1:33:39] to [1:33:40] 2025. [1:33:44] Medyo [1:33:45] kagalang-galang [1:33:46] din a period [1:33:46] of time [1:33:47] but you're [1:33:47] telling the [1:33:48] committee [1:33:48] gusto [1:33:48] nyong [1:33:48] agahan [1:33:49] pa. [1:33:49] Yes, [1:33:50] Your [1:33:50] Honor [1:33:50] because [1:33:51] we have [1:33:52] been seeing [1:33:53] the [1:33:53] cases [1:33:54] of [1:33:54] Alice [1:33:55] Go [1:33:55] and [1:33:55] also [1:33:56] Joseph [1:33:57] C. [1:33:58] this [1:33:59] happened [1:33:59] somewhere [1:34:00] in [1:34:00] 2000 [1:34:01] to [1:34:01] 2010. [1:34:01] Actually, [1:34:04] gaya ng [1:34:04] sinabi [1:34:04] ni [1:34:05] Attorney [1:34:06] Naknak [1:34:07] kanina, [1:34:07] yung unang [1:34:08] mga data [1:34:08] ni [1:34:09] Cheng [1:34:10] Zhong [1:34:10] Zhen [1:34:11] 1989 [1:34:12] pa, [1:34:13] nagsimulang [1:34:13] pumasok [1:34:14] sa mga [1:34:14] government [1:34:14] agencies [1:34:15] natin. [1:34:16] Yes, [1:34:16] Your [1:34:16] Honor. [1:34:16] And [1:34:17] during [1:34:17] that [1:34:18] time, [1:34:18] Your [1:34:18] Honor, [1:34:19] I [1:34:19] think [1:34:19] madali [1:34:21] tayong [1:34:22] malusutan [1:34:22] because [1:34:23] hindi [1:34:24] pa [1:34:24] sophisticated [1:34:25] yung [1:34:26] mga [1:34:26] systems [1:34:26] natin. [1:34:28] Digitalization [1:34:28] of [1:34:29] civil [1:34:30] registration [1:34:30] will [1:34:31] help [1:34:31] a lot [1:34:31] and [1:34:32] also [1:34:33] revising [1:34:34] or [1:34:34] amending [1:34:35] the [1:34:35] civil [1:34:36] registration [1:34:36] law [1:34:37] which [1:34:37] is [1:34:37] already [1:34:38] filed. [1:34:39] I [1:34:39] think [1:34:40] you [1:34:40] already [1:34:40] filed [1:34:41] your [1:34:41] honor [1:34:41] a [1:34:42] version [1:34:42] of [1:34:43] the [1:34:43] CRBS [1:34:44] bill. [1:34:45] It's [1:34:46] being [1:34:46] tackled [1:34:46] also [1:34:47] in [1:34:47] the [1:34:47] House [1:34:48] of [1:34:48] Representatives [1:34:49] and [1:34:50] I [1:34:50] think [1:34:50] it's [1:34:51] already [1:34:51] on [1:34:52] its [1:34:53] way [1:34:53] to [1:34:53] the [1:34:53] first [1:34:53] reading. [1:34:54] So [1:34:54] I [1:34:55] hope [1:34:56] that [1:34:56] we [1:34:56] can [1:34:56] expedite [1:34:57] the [1:34:58] passage [1:34:59] of [1:34:59] the [1:35:00] CRBS [1:35:00] bill [1:35:01] because [1:35:01] there [1:35:01] are [1:35:02] a [1:35:02] lot [1:35:02] of [1:35:02] provisions [1:35:03] there [1:35:04] that [1:35:04] is [1:35:04] addressing [1:35:05] the [1:35:05] current [1:35:06] situation [1:35:06] in [1:35:07] terms [1:35:08] of [1:35:08] irregularities [1:35:09] in [1:35:09] the [1:35:10] registration [1:35:11] of [1:35:11] birth [1:35:12] especially [1:35:13] that [1:35:14] ito [1:35:15] nakikita [1:35:16] natin [1:35:16] na [1:35:17] pag [1:35:18] nag-violate [1:35:18] ka [1:35:19] ng [1:35:19] civil [1:35:20] registration [1:35:20] laws [1:35:21] your [1:35:21] honor [1:35:21] makukulong [1:35:22] ka lang [1:35:23] ng [1:35:23] six [1:35:23] months [1:35:23] so [1:35:25] sometimes [1:35:27] our [1:35:27] prosecutors [1:35:28] na [1:35:29] parang [1:35:29] ano [1:35:30] yung [1:35:30] magiging [1:35:30] violation [1:35:31] nito [1:35:31] six [1:35:33] months [1:35:33] po [1:35:33] so [1:35:35] ganoon [1:35:35] lang [1:35:35] po [1:35:35] siya [1:35:36] insurate [1:35:36] sa [1:35:36] lahat [1:35:36] ng [1:35:36] efforts [1:35:37] at [1:35:37] panahon [1:35:38] at [1:35:38] resources [1:35:38] yes [1:35:39] and [1:35:39] I [1:35:39] think [1:35:39] in [1:35:40] your [1:35:40] versions [1:35:40] and [1:35:41] also [1:35:41] the [1:35:41] versions [1:35:42] your [1:35:42] honor [1:35:42] of [1:35:42] senator [1:35:43] Kiko [1:35:43] and [1:35:44] also [1:35:44] senate [1:35:45] president [1:35:45] wing [1:35:46] got [1:35:46] shall [1:35:46] yan [1:35:46] you [1:35:48] have [1:35:48] already [1:35:48] increased [1:35:49] the [1:35:49] penalties [1:35:50] of [1:35:50] certain [1:35:50] violations [1:35:51] of [1:35:52] certain [1:35:52] violations [1:35:52] of [1:35:53] civil [1:35:54] registration [1:35:55] law [1:35:55] marami [1:35:57] salamat [1:35:58] attorney [1:35:58] ang batali [1:35:59] so [1:35:59] again [1:36:00] to [1:36:03] bring to [1:36:03] the [1:36:03] attention [1:36:04] of [1:36:04] BI [1:36:05] attorney [1:36:05] naknak [1:36:05] bukod [1:36:06] dun [1:36:06] sa [1:36:06] memorandum [1:36:07] circular [1:36:08] yung [1:36:08] process [1:36:09] na [1:36:09] initiate [1:36:09] sa [1:36:10] NBI [1:36:10] meron [1:36:11] na rin [1:36:11] pong [1:36:11] audit [1:36:12] ng [1:36:12] LCRs [1:36:13] ang [1:36:13] PSA [1:36:14] at [1:36:15] sinasubject [1:36:16] sa [1:36:16] analytics [1:36:17] nire-refine [1:36:18] yung [1:36:18] analytics [1:36:18] so [1:36:19] maybe [1:36:19] it's [1:36:19] a further [1:36:20] encouragement [1:36:20] sa [1:36:21] BI [1:36:21] na [1:36:21] mag-consider [1:36:23] ano yung [1:36:24] appropriate [1:36:24] na [1:36:25] parallel [1:36:25] process [1:36:26] na [1:36:27] pwedeng [1:36:27] i-undertake [1:36:28] ng [1:36:28] Bureau [1:36:28] para [1:36:29] sabayan [1:36:30] itong [1:36:31] at least [1:36:31] dalawang [1:36:32] ahensya [1:36:33] and others [1:36:34] at the [1:36:34] table [1:36:34] today [1:36:35] para [1:36:36] mapakinabangan [1:36:37] po [1:36:37] yung [1:36:37] findings [1:36:38] natin [1:36:38] sa [1:36:39] investigation [1:36:39] na ito [1:36:40] and [1:36:41] masuportahan [1:36:43] talaga [1:36:43] yung mga [1:36:44] recommendation [1:36:45] that the [1:36:45] committee [1:36:46] will include [1:36:46] in the [1:36:47] committee [1:36:47] report [1:36:47] para nga [1:36:48] mapalakas [1:36:49] masecure [1:36:51] from [1:36:52] outside [1:36:52] abuse [1:36:53] and [1:36:53] mapalakas [1:36:54] internally [1:36:55] at [1:36:55] maging [1:36:56] mas [1:36:56] coherent [1:36:57] internally [1:36:57] itong [1:36:58] ating [1:36:59] mga [1:36:59] sistema [1:37:01] ma'am [1:37:03] so [1:37:03] yung [1:37:04] follow [1:37:04] yes [1:37:05] attorney [1:37:05] bakalang [1:37:07] I would [1:37:08] like [1:37:08] to [1:37:08] mention [1:37:09] na [1:37:09] din [1:37:09] po [1:37:09] madam [1:37:10] chair [1:37:11] that [1:37:12] we [1:37:12] issued [1:37:13] 2024 [1:37:13] the [1:37:14] 17 [1:37:14] and [1:37:15] the [1:37:15] 17 [1:37:16] A [1:37:16] in [1:37:17] the [1:37:17] year [1:37:17] 2024 [1:37:18] this [1:37:20] is [1:37:21] the [1:37:21] guidelines [1:37:21] for [1:37:22] the [1:37:22] late [1:37:22] registration [1:37:23] so [1:37:23] ito [1:37:24] po [1:37:24] yung [1:37:24] nag-aamend [1:37:25] doon [1:37:26] sa [1:37:26] 1993 [1:37:28] natin [1:37:29] na rules [1:37:30] on [1:37:31] delayed [1:37:31] registration [1:37:32] or [1:37:32] registration [1:37:33] of birth [1:37:33] so [1:37:34] we [1:37:34] incorporated [1:37:35] here [1:37:36] that [1:37:37] it's [1:37:37] mandatory [1:37:37] that [1:37:38] you [1:37:38] personally [1:37:38] appear [1:37:39] when [1:37:39] you [1:37:39] are [1:37:40] applying [1:37:42] for [1:37:42] a [1:37:43] late [1:37:43] registration [1:37:43] of [1:37:44] birth [1:37:44] di [1:37:44] katulad [1:37:44] ni [1:37:45] Alice [1:37:45] Go [1:37:45] na [1:37:45] tatay [1:37:46] lang [1:37:46] niya [1:37:46] nag [1:37:46] register [1:37:47] sa [1:37:47] kanya [1:37:47] yes [1:37:48] and [1:37:48] also [1:37:49] we [1:37:49] required [1:37:50] that [1:37:50] the [1:37:51] person [1:37:52] registering [1:37:53] should [1:37:54] be [1:37:54] registered [1:37:55] also [1:37:56] at [1:37:56] the [1:37:56] national [1:37:56] ID [1:37:57] so [1:37:57] that [1:37:58] the [1:37:58] biometrics [1:37:59] is [1:38:00] captured [1:38:00] also [1:38:01] in [1:38:02] the [1:38:02] Philippine [1:38:03] identification [1:38:04] system [1:38:04] so [1:38:05] if [1:38:06] sharing [1:38:07] later [1:38:08] on [1:38:08] although [1:38:09] sa [1:38:10] Philz [1:38:10] is [1:38:11] your [1:38:12] honor [1:38:12] masyadong [1:38:13] restrictive [1:38:13] po [1:38:14] yung [1:38:14] pag-share [1:38:14] ng [1:38:15] information [1:38:15] doon [1:38:16] including [1:38:17] yung [1:38:17] biometry [1:38:17] so [1:38:18] we [1:38:18] cannot [1:38:18] share [1:38:19] it [1:38:19] automatically [1:38:20] to [1:38:20] other [1:38:21] government [1:38:22] agencies [1:38:23] but [1:38:23] at [1:38:24] least [1:38:24] during [1:38:25] the [1:38:26] registration [1:38:27] stage [1:38:28] ng [1:38:28] birth [1:38:29] na-capture [1:38:30] na natin [1:38:31] yung [1:38:31] biometrics [1:38:32] and [1:38:33] na-capture [1:38:33] na natin [1:38:34] na-register [1:38:35] na siya [1:38:35] sa [1:38:35] national [1:38:36] ID [1:38:36] we [1:38:36] already [1:38:37] have [1:38:37] data [1:38:38] on [1:38:38] that [1:38:38] so [1:38:39] yun po [1:38:40] yung [1:38:40] developments [1:38:41] ni [1:38:41] director [1:38:42] matibag [1:38:42] yata [1:38:42] kanina [1:38:43] yung [1:38:44] concern [1:38:44] about [1:38:44] data [1:38:45] privacy [1:38:45] kapag [1:38:45] may [1:38:46] request [1:38:46] for [1:38:46] information [1:38:47] between [1:38:47] agencies [1:38:48] na [1:38:48] siguro [1:38:49] nga [1:38:49] gaya [1:38:50] ng [1:38:50] napag-usapan [1:38:50] kanina [1:38:51] dapat [1:38:51] kapag [1:38:52] para [1:38:52] sa [1:38:52] investigasyon [1:38:53] may [1:38:54] responsible [1:38:56] naman [1:38:57] na [1:38:57] paghahawak [1:38:58] yung [1:38:58] mga [1:38:58] data [1:38:59] that [1:38:59] there [1:39:00] should [1:39:00] be [1:39:00] some [1:39:01] kind [1:39:01] of [1:39:01] legal [1:39:02] arrangement [1:39:03] for [1:39:03] that [1:39:04] between [1:39:04] the [1:39:04] agencies [1:39:05] yes [1:39:05] your [1:39:05] honor [1:39:06] for [1:39:06] our [1:39:06] law [1:39:07] enforcement [1:39:07] agencies [1:39:08] especially [1:39:08] the [1:39:09] NBI [1:39:09] we [1:39:09] have [1:39:10] arrangement [1:39:10] for [1:39:11] data [1:39:11] sharing [1:39:11] we [1:39:12] even [1:39:13] have [1:39:16] a [1:39:17] back [1:39:18] and [1:39:18] matching [1:39:20] if they [1:39:21] have [1:39:21] requests [1:39:22] kasi [1:39:22] masyado [1:39:23] pong [1:39:23] marami [1:39:23] din [1:39:24] minsan [1:39:24] yung [1:39:24] mga [1:39:25] yung [1:39:26] database [1:39:27] po [1:39:27] namin [1:39:28] so [1:39:28] and [1:39:28] we [1:39:29] have [1:39:29] capability [1:39:29] to [1:39:30] narrow [1:39:31] down [1:39:31] the [1:39:33] request [1:39:33] so [1:39:34] nagtutulungan [1:39:36] po kami [1:39:37] with the [1:39:38] NBI [1:39:38] regional [1:39:38] offices [1:39:39] then [1:39:39] and also [1:39:40] the [1:39:40] central [1:39:40] office [1:39:40] and also [1:39:42] the [1:39:42] PNP [1:39:43] mayor [1:39:44] honor [1:39:44] and of [1:39:44] course [1:39:44] the [1:39:45] OSG [1:39:45] and the [1:39:45] DOJ [1:39:46] as well [1:39:47] salamat [1:39:49] attorney [1:39:50] so [1:39:50] ayun [1:39:52] yung [1:39:53] itong [1:39:54] follow up [1:39:54] ay [1:39:55] nasimulan [1:39:56] nyo [1:39:56] na ring [1:39:57] sagutin [1:39:58] but [1:39:58] just in [1:39:58] case [1:39:58] meron [1:39:58] kayong [1:39:59] kailangan [1:39:59] idag [1:40:00] dag [1:40:00] so [1:40:00] yung [1:40:01] tanong [1:40:01] pa [1:40:01] rin [1:40:01] na [1:40:01] so [1:40:02] san [1:40:03] talaga [1:40:03] nag [1:40:03] fail [1:40:03] yung [1:40:04] system [1:40:04] na [1:40:04] pag-usapan [1:40:05] nyo [1:40:05] yung [1:40:05] where [1:40:06] was [1:40:06] the [1:40:06] first [1:40:06] failure [1:40:07] so [1:40:08] was [1:40:08] it [1:40:08] at [1:40:09] the [1:40:09] LCR [1:40:09] PSA [1:40:10] verification [1:40:11] the [1:40:11] rules [1:40:11] themselves [1:40:12] na [1:40:12] sabi [1:40:13] nyo [1:40:13] nga [1:40:13] pinapa-amend [1:40:15] nyo [1:40:16] na [1:40:16] dun [1:40:17] sa [1:40:18] batas [1:40:19] wala [1:40:22] wala [1:40:22] wala [1:40:22] wala [1:40:22] wala [1:40:22] wala [1:40:22] wala [1:40:22] wala [1:40:22] sapat [1:40:22] na [1:40:23] safeguards [1:40:23] para [1:40:24] sa [1:40:24] ganitong [1:40:24] klaseng [1:40:25] late [1:40:25] registration [1:40:26] I [1:40:26] think [1:40:26] that's [1:40:26] what [1:40:26] you're [1:40:27] proposing [1:40:27] to [1:40:28] address [1:40:28] already [1:40:28] ano [1:40:29] po [1:40:29] yes [1:40:29] po [1:40:30] yung [1:40:30] check and [1:40:30] balances [1:40:31] po [1:40:31] ng [1:40:31] registration [1:40:33] process [1:40:34] once [1:40:34] it's [1:40:35] registered [1:40:36] at the [1:40:36] point [1:40:37] of [1:40:37] the [1:40:38] local [1:40:38] civil [1:40:39] registrar's [1:40:39] office [1:40:40] it's [1:40:40] considered [1:40:40] a [1:40:41] public [1:40:41] document [1:40:41] already [1:40:42] it's [1:40:42] already [1:40:43] an [1:40:43] official [1:40:43] document [1:40:44] the [1:40:45] thing [1:40:45] is [1:40:45] that [1:40:46] after [1:40:48] the [1:40:48] registration [1:40:49] the [1:40:50] civil [1:40:50] registrar [1:40:51] general [1:40:51] should [1:40:52] have [1:40:52] a [1:40:52] review [1:40:53] or [1:40:53] an [1:40:53] audit [1:40:54] of [1:40:55] all [1:40:55] the [1:40:55] registrations [1:40:56] that's [1:40:56] being [1:40:57] made [1:40:57] not [1:40:57] only [1:40:57] in [1:40:58] terms [1:40:58] of [1:40:59] the [1:41:00] fraudulent [1:41:00] documents [1:41:01] but [1:41:02] also [1:41:02] on [1:41:03] the [1:41:03] irregularities [1:41:04] because [1:41:04] these [1:41:04] are [1:41:04] vital [1:41:05] events [1:41:05] these [1:41:05] are [1:41:05] very [1:41:06] important [1:41:07] documents [1:41:07] to [1:41:08] prove [1:41:08] your [1:41:08] identity [1:41:09] to [1:41:09] prove [1:41:09] your [1:41:10] status [1:41:10] and [1:41:11] there [1:41:12] are [1:41:13] some [1:41:13] requirements [1:41:14] that [1:41:14] should [1:41:15] be [1:41:15] there [1:41:15] during [1:41:16] registration [1:41:17] whether [1:41:17] you're [1:41:17] registering [1:41:18] a [1:41:19] birth [1:41:20] marriage [1:41:21] or [1:41:21] death [1:41:21] so [1:41:22] yun [1:41:23] po [1:41:24] nagkukulang [1:41:25] yung [1:41:25] proseso [1:41:26] natin [1:41:26] dati [1:41:27] in [1:41:29] terms [1:41:29] of [1:41:30] cross [1:41:32] checking [1:41:32] after [1:41:32] the [1:41:33] registration [1:41:33] and also [1:41:34] internally [1:41:35] pa lang [1:41:35] hindi pa [1:41:36] yung [1:41:36] cross [1:41:37] checking [1:41:37] across [1:41:37] agency [1:41:38] sa loob [1:41:38] ng [1:41:39] PSA [1:41:39] similar [1:41:41] po ba [1:41:41] ito [1:41:41] sa binanggit [1:41:42] ni [1:41:42] attorney [1:41:43] nakna [1:41:44] kanina [1:41:44] na [1:41:44] yung [1:41:46] in terms [1:41:49] of [1:41:50] border [1:41:50] control [1:41:51] ng [1:41:52] BI [1:41:53] is that [1:41:53] a similar [1:41:53] concern [1:41:54] sa [1:41:55] PSA [1:41:56] or [1:41:57] iba [1:41:57] siya [1:41:58] iba [1:41:58] itong [1:41:58] oversight [1:41:59] siguro [1:42:00] po [1:42:01] kaya [1:42:02] ko [1:42:02] nabanggit [1:42:03] po [1:42:03] kanina [1:42:03] yung [1:42:03] pag [1:42:04] capture [1:42:04] ng [1:42:04] national [1:42:05] ID [1:42:05] because [1:42:06] attorney [1:42:06] naknak [1:42:07] said [1:42:07] that [1:42:08] matitrigger [1:42:10] lang [1:42:10] yung [1:42:10] investigation [1:42:11] nila [1:42:12] kapag [1:42:13] may [1:42:13] nag [1:42:13] alert [1:42:13] sa kanila [1:42:15] na [1:42:15] I have [1:42:16] someone [1:42:17] here [1:42:17] registering [1:42:18] as [1:42:18] this [1:42:19] and [1:42:20] doon [1:42:20] sa [1:42:20] may [1:42:20] so [1:42:21] hindi [1:42:21] kasi [1:42:21] agad [1:42:23] agad [1:42:23] na [1:42:24] na [1:42:25] detect [1:42:25] din [1:42:25] namin [1:42:26] na [1:42:26] meron [1:42:26] na [1:42:26] pala [1:42:26] siyang [1:42:28] records [1:42:29] sa Bureau [1:42:30] of [1:42:30] Immigration [1:42:30] So [1:42:31] I [1:42:31] think [1:42:31] that's [1:42:32] an [1:42:32] opportunity [1:42:32] for [1:42:33] us [1:42:33] also [1:42:33] to [1:42:34] marry [1:42:35] the [1:42:35] two [1:42:36] systems [1:42:36] the [1:42:36] system [1:42:37] of [1:42:37] the [1:42:37] Bureau [1:42:37] of [1:42:37] Immigration [1:42:38] and [1:42:38] also [1:42:38] our [1:42:39] system [1:42:39] because [1:42:41] right [1:42:41] now [1:42:42] I [1:42:42] understand [1:42:43] that [1:42:43] the [1:42:43] civil [1:42:44] registration [1:42:45] that [1:42:45] especially [1:42:46] that [1:42:46] right [1:42:47] now [1:42:47] we [1:42:47] are [1:42:47] digitalizing [1:42:48] the [1:42:48] registration [1:42:49] it's [1:42:50] called [1:42:50] the [1:42:51] ECRBS [1:42:52] we are [1:42:53] piloting [1:42:54] some [1:42:55] local [1:42:55] civil [1:42:56] registrars [1:42:56] right [1:42:57] now [1:42:57] and [1:42:57] I [1:42:57] think [1:42:58] that [1:42:58] helps [1:42:58] because [1:42:59] it [1:42:59] will [1:42:59] be [1:42:59] more [1:43:00] interoperable [1:43:01] in terms [1:43:02] of [1:43:02] sharing [1:43:03] information [1:43:03] to other [1:43:04] government [1:43:04] agencies [1:43:05] Your [1:43:06] Honor [1:43:06] And [1:43:08] kapag [1:43:08] sinasabing [1:43:09] yung [1:43:09] meron [1:43:09] kayong [1:43:09] pinapilot [1:43:10] ngayon [1:43:10] ibig sabihin [1:43:11] din [1:43:11] time [1:43:12] bound [1:43:12] ito [1:43:13] and [1:43:14] so [1:43:14] it [1:43:14] leads [1:43:15] me [1:43:15] to [1:43:15] think [1:43:15] na [1:43:16] lalo [1:43:17] na [1:43:18] dahil [1:43:18] ang [1:43:18] sitwasyon [1:43:18] sa [1:43:18] ngayon [1:43:19] ay [1:43:19] napaka [1:43:19] urgent [1:43:20] so [1:43:20] habang [1:43:21] may [1:43:21] ongoing [1:43:21] audit [1:43:21] ng [1:43:22] NBI [1:43:22] may [1:43:23] ongoing [1:43:23] audit [1:43:24] at [1:43:24] analytics [1:43:25] kayong [1:43:26] ginagawa [1:43:26] kung [1:43:26] may [1:43:27] isasagawa [1:43:27] ring [1:43:27] similar [1:43:28] na [1:43:28] proseso [1:43:28] ang [1:43:28] BI [1:43:30] well [1:43:31] you would [1:43:32] know [1:43:32] better [1:43:32] than [1:43:32] me [1:43:32] in [1:43:33] your [1:43:33] specific [1:43:33] agencies [1:43:34] pero [1:43:34] naisip [1:43:34] ko [1:43:35] lang [1:43:35] na [1:43:35] baka [1:43:36] there [1:43:36] can [1:43:36] be [1:43:37] kahit [1:43:37] na [1:43:37] a [1:43:38] certain [1:43:38] time [1:43:39] frame [1:43:39] ilang [1:43:40] buwan [1:43:40] ba [1:43:40] or [1:43:41] isang [1:43:42] taon [1:43:42] ba [1:43:42] para [1:43:43] matapos [1:43:43] ninyong [1:43:43] lahat [1:43:44] itong [1:43:44] mga [1:43:44] audits [1:43:45] within [1:43:46] which [1:43:46] may [1:43:46] heightened [1:43:47] interoperability [1:43:50] or [1:43:50] interoperability [1:43:53] among [1:43:53] especially [1:43:54] your [1:43:54] databases [1:43:55] so [1:43:56] just [1:43:56] something [1:43:56] to [1:43:56] consider [1:43:57] na [1:43:58] for [1:43:58] the [1:43:58] immediate [1:43:59] for [1:43:59] the [1:43:59] disurgent [1:44:00] period [1:44:01] nakami [1:44:03] heightened [1:44:03] na [1:44:04] interoperability [1:44:05] until [1:44:05] mag [1:44:06] settle [1:44:06] ang [1:44:06] bawat [1:44:07] ahensya [1:44:08] ninyo [1:44:08] into [1:44:08] a new [1:44:10] and [1:44:10] improved [1:44:10] or an [1:44:11] updated [1:44:11] system [1:44:12] para [1:44:13] mapigilan [1:44:13] further [1:44:14] abuses [1:44:15] na ganito [1:44:15] and [1:44:15] ma-regularize [1:44:17] lang [1:44:17] na [1:44:18] secure [1:44:18] internally [1:44:19] yung [1:44:19] ating [1:44:20] system [1:44:20] 41 [1:44:25] years [1:44:25] old [1:44:26] na [1:44:26] si [1:44:26] Mr. [1:44:26] C [1:44:27] nung [1:44:27] niregister [1:44:28] yung [1:44:28] birth [1:44:28] nila [1:44:28] so [1:44:29] kapag [1:44:30] ganyang [1:44:30] ka [1:44:30] late [1:44:31] yung [1:44:31] registration [1:44:32] ano ba [1:44:33] o meron [1:44:34] bang [1:44:34] additional [1:44:34] verification [1:44:36] na ginagawa [1:44:37] o essentially [1:44:38] same [1:44:38] requirements [1:44:39] lang [1:44:39] sa ibang [1:44:40] late [1:44:40] registrations [1:44:41] same [1:44:43] requirement [1:44:43] your [1:44:44] honor [1:44:44] yung [1:44:45] yung [1:44:45] in-impose [1:44:47] natin [1:44:48] for [1:44:48] late [1:44:49] registration [1:44:50] it's [1:44:52] just [1:44:52] that [1:44:52] for [1:44:54] but [1:44:55] we have [1:44:56] a program [1:44:56] right now [1:44:57] kasi [1:44:57] your [1:44:57] honor [1:44:58] na [1:44:58] yung [1:44:58] mga [1:44:58] kababayan [1:44:59] naman [1:44:59] natin [1:44:59] na [1:45:00] talagang [1:45:01] legitimate [1:45:02] na [1:45:02] Pilipino [1:45:03] kailangan [1:45:05] nilang [1:45:05] mapapasok [1:45:06] sa [1:45:06] system [1:45:06] may [1:45:07] mga [1:45:07] sectors [1:45:07] nga [1:45:08] po [1:45:08] na [1:45:08] talagang [1:45:09] kinakailangan [1:45:10] ng [1:45:10] dagdag [1:45:10] na tulong [1:45:11] ng [1:45:11] PSA [1:45:11] tinutulungan [1:45:12] din [1:45:12] ng [1:45:12] civil [1:45:12] society [1:45:13] organizations [1:45:14] sa [1:45:14] limbawa [1:45:14] yung [1:45:15] mga [1:45:15] katutubong [1:45:15] Pilipino [1:45:16] o di [1:45:17] kaya [1:45:17] yung [1:45:17] mga [1:45:17] nawala [1:45:18] ng [1:45:18] dokumento [1:45:19] dahil [1:45:19] sa [1:45:19] disaster [1:45:20] mga [1:45:20] ganun [1:45:21] po [1:45:21] hindi [1:45:21] sila [1:45:21] dapat [1:45:22] mapinsala [1:45:23] dahil sa [1:45:25] mga [1:45:25] pangaabuso [1:45:26] ng [1:45:26] hilang [1:45:27] Tama po [1:45:27] kayo [1:45:27] your [1:45:28] honor [1:45:28] and [1:45:28] we [1:45:28] launched [1:45:29] since [1:45:30] 2023 [1:45:31] the [1:45:31] birth [1:45:32] registration [1:45:32] assistance [1:45:33] program [1:45:33] and [1:45:34] we [1:45:34] are [1:45:34] also [1:45:35] coordinating [1:45:36] with [1:45:36] the [1:45:37] NGOs [1:45:37] some [1:45:38] NGOs [1:45:38] showed [1:45:39] their [1:45:39] interest [1:45:42] in the [1:45:42] program [1:45:43] because [1:45:43] it [1:45:44] really [1:45:44] helped [1:45:45] us [1:45:45] register [1:45:47] yung [1:45:47] mga [1:45:47] talagang [1:45:49] kailangan [1:45:49] ma-register [1:45:50] like [1:45:50] mga [1:45:51] 80 [1:45:51] years [1:45:52] old [1:45:53] mga [1:45:54] IPs [1:45:56] nasa [1:45:56] vulnerable [1:45:56] groups [1:45:57] yes [1:46:00] your [1:46:00] honor [1:46:00] so [1:46:06] yun lang [1:46:06] po [1:46:07] your [1:46:07] honor [1:46:07] yung [1:46:07] dapat [1:46:09] relax [1:46:10] yung [1:46:10] namin [1:46:10] because [1:46:11] ang [1:46:12] system [1:46:12] naman [1:46:12] namin [1:46:13] doon [1:46:13] para [1:46:13] masigurado [1:46:16] natin [1:46:16] na [1:46:17] hindi [1:46:17] pumapasok [1:46:18] yung [1:46:18] mga [1:46:18] hindi [1:46:20] karapat [1:46:20] dapat [1:46:20] na [1:46:20] ma-rehistro [1:46:21] sa [1:46:21] B-RAP [1:46:22] B-RAP [1:46:22] po yung [1:46:22] tawag [1:46:23] po [1:46:23] namin [1:46:23] binivet [1:46:25] na po [1:46:25] natin [1:46:26] ito [1:46:26] sa [1:46:26] PSA [1:46:27] mismo [1:46:28] so [1:46:29] meron [1:46:30] na po [1:46:30] kaming [1:46:30] listahan [1:46:31] ng [1:46:31] mga [1:46:32] individuals [1:46:33] na [1:46:34] tingin [1:46:34] namin [1:46:35] ay [1:46:35] walang [1:46:36] birth [1:46:36] birth [1:46:37] certificate [1:46:37] this is [1:46:38] based on [1:46:39] the [1:46:39] conduct [1:46:40] of [1:46:40] the [1:46:40] census [1:46:41] and [1:46:42] also [1:46:42] the [1:46:43] community [1:46:44] based [1:46:44] monitoring [1:46:44] system [1:46:45] na [1:46:46] ginagawa [1:46:46] tuwing [1:46:47] three [1:46:47] years [1:46:48] and [1:46:48] also [1:46:48] five [1:46:49] years [1:46:50] for [1:46:50] the [1:46:50] census [1:46:51] dito [1:46:52] namin [1:46:53] nalalaman [1:46:54] kung [1:46:54] alam [1:46:57] ba [1:46:57] nila [1:46:57] aware [1:46:57] ba [1:46:57] sila [1:46:58] kung [1:46:58] meron [1:46:58] silang [1:46:58] birth [1:46:59] certificate [1:46:59] and [1:46:59] we [1:46:59] validate [1:47:00] that [1:47:00] also [1:47:01] with [1:47:01] our [1:47:01] civil [1:47:02] registry [1:47:02] database [1:47:03] so [1:47:03] that's [1:47:03] the [1:47:04] mechanism [1:47:05] that [1:47:06] we [1:47:06] had [1:47:06] for [1:47:09] us [1:47:09] to [1:47:09] determine [1:47:09] kung [1:47:10] meron [1:47:11] ba [1:47:11] talaga [1:47:11] siyang [1:47:11] birth [1:47:11] certificate [1:47:12] or [1:47:12] hindi [1:47:12] or [1:47:13] kung [1:47:13] talaga [1:47:13] bang [1:47:14] Pilipino [1:47:14] din [1:47:14] siya [1:47:14] or [1:47:15] hindi [1:47:15] so [1:47:16] meron [1:47:16] naman [1:47:16] na [1:47:16] pala [1:47:17] at [1:47:17] least [1:47:17] mga [1:47:18] pang [1:47:18] baseline [1:47:19] na [1:47:20] regular [1:47:20] processes [1:47:21] every [1:47:21] three [1:47:22] years [1:47:22] sa [1:47:22] CBMS [1:47:23] every [1:47:24] five [1:47:24] years [1:47:25] sa [1:47:25] census [1:47:25] at [1:47:26] least [1:47:26] for [1:47:26] some [1:47:26] kind [1:47:26] of [1:47:27] baseline [1:47:27] so [1:47:28] kinakailangan [1:47:29] lang [1:47:29] in [1:47:29] this [1:47:29] particular [1:47:30] kind [1:47:31] of [1:47:31] cases [1:47:32] na [1:47:33] konting [1:47:34] top [1:47:34] up [1:47:35] or [1:47:35] top [1:47:35] up [1:47:35] on [1:47:36] the [1:47:36] part [1:47:36] of [1:47:36] the [1:47:37] agencies [1:47:38] na [1:47:39] magbantay [1:47:39] laban [1:47:40] sa [1:47:40] pang-aabuso [1:47:40] at [1:47:41] strengthen [1:47:41] internally [1:47:42] yung [1:47:42] systems [1:47:42] natin [1:47:43] Yes [1:47:43] Your [1:47:44] Honor [1:47:44] and [1:47:45] just to [1:47:45] mention [1:47:46] na [1:47:46] din [1:47:46] Your [1:47:47] Honor [1:47:47] kapag [1:47:47] nag [1:47:48] audit [1:47:48] po [1:47:48] kami [1:47:49] we [1:47:50] are [1:47:50] looking [1:47:53] at [1:47:54] the [1:47:54] possible [1:47:55] number [1:47:55] one [1:47:56] filing [1:47:56] of [1:47:56] an [1:47:56] administrative [1:47:57] case [1:47:57] on [1:47:58] the [1:47:58] airing [1:47:58] local [1:47:59] civil [1:47:59] registrar [1:48:00] so [1:48:01] we [1:48:01] are [1:48:02] endorsing [1:48:02] administrative [1:48:04] cases [1:48:05] to the [1:48:05] local [1:48:06] government [1:48:06] units [1:48:06] the [1:48:07] local [1:48:07] chief [1:48:07] executives [1:48:08] for [1:48:08] the [1:48:08] filing [1:48:09] of [1:48:09] administrative [1:48:09] cases [1:48:10] we [1:48:11] are [1:48:11] also [1:48:12] looking [1:48:12] at [1:48:12] the [1:48:13] criminal [1:48:13] violation [1:48:14] on [1:48:14] the [1:48:14] civil [1:48:14] registration [1:48:15] law [1:48:15] or the [1:48:16] revised [1:48:16] penal [1:48:16] code [1:48:17] and [1:48:18] we [1:48:18] top [1:48:18] our [1:48:19] law [1:48:19] enforcement [1:48:19] agency [1:48:20] like [1:48:20] the [1:48:21] particularly [1:48:22] the [1:48:22] NBI [1:48:23] the [1:48:23] PNP [1:48:24] we [1:48:25] also [1:48:26] have [1:48:26] a [1:48:26] coordination [1:48:27] with [1:48:27] the [1:48:27] NICA [1:48:27] also [1:48:28] for [1:48:28] this [1:48:29] kind [1:48:30] of [1:48:30] situation [1:48:31] and [1:48:31] of [1:48:31] course [1:48:32] the [1:48:32] filing [1:48:33] of [1:48:33] a [1:48:33] civil [1:48:33] special [1:48:34] the [1:48:36] civil [1:48:36] case [1:48:36] the [1:48:37] petition [1:48:37] for [1:48:37] cancellation [1:48:38] of [1:48:38] birth [1:48:38] records [1:48:39] Your [1:48:40] Honor [1:48:40] So [1:48:41] ito [1:48:41] naman [1:48:41] yung [1:48:41] in-endorse [1:48:42] natin [1:48:42] sa [1:48:42] OSG [1:48:43] So [1:48:43] tatlo [1:48:43] po [1:48:43] yun [1:48:44] na [1:48:44] binabantayan [1:48:45] namin [1:48:46] sa [1:48:46] local [1:48:46] civil [1:48:47] registry [1:48:48] offices [1:48:48] audit [1:48:49] Salamat [1:48:51] and [1:48:52] yung [1:48:53] yung [1:48:54] binanggit [1:48:55] nyo [1:48:55] ay yung [1:48:55] binanggit [1:48:56] din [1:48:56] ni [1:48:56] Sir [1:48:57] Kundangan [1:48:57] kanina [1:48:58] na [1:48:58] law [1:49:00] para [1:49:01] sa [1:49:01] administrative [1:49:03] cancellation [1:49:03] of late [1:49:04] reg [1:49:04] of foreign [1:49:05] nationals [1:49:05] Yes [1:49:06] Your [1:49:06] Honor [1:49:06] and [1:49:06] this [1:49:07] is [1:49:07] I [1:49:07] think [1:49:07] included [1:49:08] already [1:49:08] in the [1:49:09] versions [1:49:09] of [1:49:10] the [1:49:10] Senate [1:49:10] and the [1:49:11] CRBS [1:49:11] bill [1:49:12] That's [1:49:13] right [1:49:13] attorney [1:49:13] Salamat [1:49:14] So [1:49:15] similar [1:49:16] questions [1:49:16] at [1:49:16] tinanong [1:49:16] ko [1:49:17] kanina [1:49:17] kay [1:49:17] attorney [1:49:18] Naknak [1:49:18] Kung may [1:49:20] pumunta [1:49:20] ngayong [1:49:21] araw [1:49:21] sa isang [1:49:22] local [1:49:22] civil [1:49:23] registrar [1:49:23] substantially [1:49:25] same [1:49:25] documents [1:49:26] that were [1:49:26] used [1:49:26] in this [1:49:27] case [1:49:27] yung [1:49:27] mga [1:49:27] na [1:49:28] red [1:49:28] flag [1:49:28] din [1:49:29] na [1:49:29] documents [1:49:30] mahuhuli [1:49:32] na ba [1:49:32] natin [1:49:33] or [1:49:33] posible [1:49:33] pa rin [1:49:34] bang [1:49:34] makakuha [1:49:34] siya [1:49:35] ng [1:49:36] birth [1:49:36] 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local [1:50:17] autonomy [1:50:17] and [1:50:18] also [1:50:18] data [1:50:18] privacy [1:50:19] can [1:50:19] they [1:50:19] do [1:50:20] that [1:50:20] under [1:50:20] the [1:50:21] current [1:50:21] law [1:50:21] under [1:50:22] the [1:50:22] current [1:50:23] law [1:50:23] hindi [1:50:23] po [1:50:23] kasi [1:50:23] clear [1:50:24] the [1:50:25] law [1:50:26] that [1:50:26] they [1:50:26] are [1:50:26] backing [1:50:30] upon [1:50:30] is [1:50:30] the [1:50:31] local [1:50:31] government [1:50:32] code [1:50:32] so [1:50:33] under [1:50:33] the [1:50:34] local [1:50:34] government [1:50:34] code [1:50:35] yes [1:50:35] there's [1:50:35] a [1:50:35] local [1:50:35] autonomy [1:50:36] so [1:50:37] under [1:50:37] the [1:50:37] civil [1:50:38] registration [1:50:38] law [1:50:39] kasi [1:50:39] this [1:50:39] is [1:50:39] a [1:50:40] 1931 [1:50:41] law [1:50:42] wala [1:50:43] pong [1:50:43] ganun [1:50:43] na [1:50:44] pinabanggit [1:50:45] and [1:50:47] kung [1:50:47] ano [1:50:47] 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[1:51:20] siguro [1:51:20] but [1:51:20] dun [1:51:21] sa [1:51:21] pag [1:51:21] sulong [1:51:22] namin [1:51:22] amended [1:51:24] law [1:51:25] kaugnay [1:51:26] ng [1:51:26] Philippine [1:51:26] Statistics [1:51:27] Authority [1:51:27] pwede [1:51:28] rin [1:51:28] namin [1:51:28] tignan [1:51:29] kung [1:51:29] papaano [1:51:30] i-address [1:51:32] itong [1:51:33] concern [1:51:33] and then [1:51:34] parallel to [1:51:34] that [1:51:35] kung [1:51:35] paano [1:51:36] posibleng [1:51:37] ma-update [1:51:39] ma-amend [1:51:39] mapalakas [1:51:40] lalo [1:51:41] yung [1:51:42] local [1:51:42] government [1:51:43] code [1:51:43] but also [1:51:44] in [1:51:44] this [1:51:44] aspect [1:51:45] yes [1:51:47] your [1:51:47] honor [1:51:48] that [1:51:48] would [1:51:48] really [1:51:48] help [1:51:49] siguro [1:51:50] dagdag [1:51:51] rin [1:51:53] ma-amend [1:51:55] sa [1:51:56] pwede [1:51:57] sa [1:51:58] pwede [1:51:59] namin [1:52:00] sa [1:52:00] pwede [1:52:01] din [1:52:02] i-establish [1:52:03] palakasin [1:52:04] natin [1:52:04] yung [1:52:04] inter [1:52:05] agency [1:52:05] coordination [1:52:07] dun [1:52:08] sa [1:52:08] CRBS [1:52:09] law [1:52:09] I [1:52:10] think [1:52:10] the [1:52:10] DFA [1:52:11] also [1:52:11] has [1:52:11] initiatives [1:52:12] in [1:52:13] addressing [1:52:14] the [1:52:14] passport [1:52:14] irregularities [1:52:15] which [1:52:16] the [1:52:16] PSA [1:52:16] is [1:52:16] also [1:52:17] a [1:52:17] member [1:52:18] yung [1:52:20] mga [1:52:21] gano'n [1:52:21] na [1:52:21] mga [1:52:21] working [1:52:23] groups [1:52:24] your [1:52:24] honor [1:52:25] and also [1:52:25] yung [1:52:25] active [1:52:26] participation [1:52:27] ng [1:52:27] mga [1:52:28] agencies [1:52:28] interagency [1:52:29] committees [1:52:31] nakakatulong [1:52:33] ito sa [1:52:33] faster [1:52:34] coordination [1:52:34] at [1:52:35] hindi [1:52:36] na [1:52:36] minsan [1:52:37] kailangan [1:52:38] mo lang [1:52:38] i-trigger [1:52:39] yung [1:52:40] other [1:52:40] agency [1:52:41] at [1:52:42] kung [1:52:42] alam [1:52:43] na [1:52:43] din niya [1:52:43] yung [1:52:43] purpose [1:52:45] mo [1:52:46] kunwari [1:52:47] nasa [1:52:47] akin [1:52:48] yung [1:52:48] initial [1:52:49] information [1:52:49] and [1:52:50] then [1:52:50] ibibigay [1:52:52] ko [1:52:52] lang [1:52:52] ito [1:52:52] sa [1:52:52] say [1:52:53] for [1:52:53] example [1:52:54] NBI [1:52:54] or [1:52:54] BI [1:52:55] and [1:52:55] DFA [1:52:56] and [1:52:56] they [1:52:56] can [1:52:57] already [1:52:57] know [1:52:58] na [1:52:58] okay [1:52:59] this [1:52:59] is [1:52:59] a [1:52:59] case [1:53:00] of [1:53:00] something [1:53:01] like [1:53:01] this [1:53:01] fraudulent [1:53:02] document [1:53:02] that's [1:53:03] being [1:53:03] registered [1:53:03] mas [1:53:06] madali [1:53:06] yung [1:53:06] coordination [1:53:07] and [1:53:08] also [1:53:08] mas [1:53:08] madali [1:53:09] din [1:53:09] yung [1:53:09] pag [1:53:10] action [1:53:10] and [1:53:12] I'm [1:53:13] glad [1:53:13] you [1:53:13] mentioned [1:53:13] DFA [1:53:14] attorney [1:53:14] kasi [1:53:14] actually [1:53:15] sila [1:53:15] yung [1:53:15] susunod [1:53:16] na [1:53:16] ahensiyang [1:53:17] tatunoyin [1:53:17] ko [1:53:18] and [1:53:18] and [1:53:18] speaking [1:53:18] of [1:53:19] triggers [1:53:19] napakalakas [1:53:22] na [1:53:22] na [1:53:22] trigger [1:53:23] yung [1:53:23] Alice [1:53:23] Guho [1:53:24] and [1:53:24] I [1:53:24] think [1:53:25] significant [1:53:25] din [1:53:25] na [1:53:26] trigger [1:53:26] itong [1:53:26] case [1:53:27] study [1:53:27] kay [1:53:27] Joseph [1:53:28] si [1:53:28] kung [1:53:28] hindi [1:53:29] pa [1:53:29] sapat [1:53:29] na [1:53:29] mga [1:53:30] triggers [1:53:30] yan [1:53:30] ewan ko [1:53:31] pa [1:53:31] kung [1:53:31] ano [1:53:31] pang [1:53:31] iniintay [1:53:32] natin [1:53:32] habang [1:53:33] yun [1:53:33] na nga [1:53:33] ginigisa [1:53:34] tayo [1:53:34] sa [1:53:34] sariling [1:53:35] mantika [1:53:35] so [1:53:36] it [1:53:37] really [1:53:37] calls [1:53:37] upon [1:53:38] us [1:53:38] to [1:53:38] take [1:53:39] action [1:53:39] so [1:53:39] ginagawa [1:53:40] namin [1:53:40] yung [1:53:41] part [1:53:41] namin [1:53:41] sa [1:53:41] sa [1:53:42] komite [1:53:44] but [1:53:45] we [1:53:46] will [1:53:46] really [1:53:46] call [1:53:47] on [1:53:47] the [1:53:47] executive [1:53:48] and [1:53:49] sections [1:53:50] of [1:53:50] executive [1:53:50] to [1:53:51] take [1:53:51] a [1:53:51] strong [1:53:51] action [1:53:52] on [1:53:52] this [1:53:52] sa [1:53:54] PSA [1:53:55] pa rin [1:53:55] ilan [1:53:56] na [1:53:56] yung [1:53:57] na-identify [1:53:57] ng [1:53:58] PSA [1:53:58] na [1:53:58] fraudulent [1:53:59] or [1:53:59] questionable [1:54:00] birth [1:54:00] registrations [1:54:02] involving [1:54:02] foreign [1:54:03] nationals [1:54:03] so [1:54:04] yung [1:54:04] pwedeng [1:54:04] maging [1:54:04] subject [1:54:05] nung [1:54:05] administrative [1:54:06] cancellation [1:54:07] or [1:54:07] exclusion [1:54:08] at [1:54:08] sa [1:54:09] mga [1:54:09] iyon [1:54:09] na-identify [1:54:10] yung [1:54:11] fraudulent [1:54:11] or [1:54:11] questionable [1:54:12] ilan [1:54:13] na [1:54:13] talaga [1:54:14] ang [1:54:14] cancelled [1:54:15] hindi [1:54:16] investigated [1:54:17] or [1:54:17] referred [1:54:18] lamang [1:54:18] pero [1:54:18] cancelled [1:54:19] as [1:54:19] of [1:54:20] this [1:54:20] date [1:54:20] yes [1:54:21] your [1:54:23] honor [1:54:23] we [1:54:23] have [1:54:24] already [1:54:24] endorsed [1:54:24] 1484 [1:54:26] birth [1:54:28] records [1:54:29] sa [1:54:30] OSG [1:54:30] and [1:54:31] right [1:54:32] now [1:54:33] etong [1:54:34] mga [1:54:34] to [1:54:34] blinak [1:54:35] na [1:54:35] po [1:54:35] namin [1:54:36] your [1:54:37] honor [1:54:37] so [1:54:38] yung [1:54:38] 1484 [1:54:40] na [1:54:40] ito [1:54:40] hindi [1:54:41] na [1:54:41] makakapag [1:54:41] request [1:54:42] ng [1:54:42] copy [1:54:42] ng [1:54:43] birth [1:54:46] record [1:54:46] sa [1:54:46] PSA [1:54:47] and [1:54:48] as [1:54:50] I've [1:54:50] mentioned [1:54:51] tatlo [1:54:52] na po [1:54:52] yung [1:54:53] naifile [1:54:54] sa [1:54:54] court [1:54:54] the [1:54:55] case [1:54:55] of [1:54:55] Valis [1:54:56] Go [1:54:56] can [1:54:57] be [1:54:57] discussed [1:54:58] by [1:54:58] Justice [1:54:59] James [1:54:59] later [1:55:00] on [1:55:00] siguro [1:55:01] po [1:55:01] but [1:55:02] it's [1:55:03] under [1:55:03] naka [1:55:05] appeal [1:55:05] po [1:55:05] sa [1:55:05] court [1:55:06] of [1:55:06] appeals [1:55:06] so [1:55:08] nagihiring [1:55:09] na po [1:55:10] sa [1:55:10] case [1:55:11] naman [1:55:11] ni [1:55:11] Sheila [1:55:11] Go [1:55:11] and [1:55:12] also [1:55:12] yung [1:55:13] filed [1:55:13] case [1:55:14] on [1:55:14] the [1:55:14] petition [1:55:15] for [1:55:15] cancellation [1:55:16] of [1:55:16] birth [1:55:16] record [1:55:16] ni [1:55:17] Joseph [1:55:19] C [1:55:19] so [1:55:23] very [1:55:24] painstaking [1:55:24] work [1:55:25] talaga [1:55:25] sa [1:55:25] ganyang [1:55:26] narration [1:55:27] nyo [1:55:27] lalong [1:55:28] nagiging [1:55:29] necessary [1:55:30] yung [1:55:30] sinabi [1:55:31] ni Sir [1:55:31] Kundangan [1:55:32] na [1:55:32] administrative [1:55:33] cancellation [1:55:34] I [1:55:34] share [1:55:35] the [1:55:35] burden [1:55:35] po [1:55:36] ng [1:55:36] pag [1:55:37] file [1:55:37] po [1:55:37] ng [1:55:38] case [1:55:40] on [1:55:40] this [1:55:40] petition [1:55:41] because [1:55:41] the [1:55:42] OSG [1:55:42] really [1:55:44] have [1:55:46] to [1:55:46] spend [1:55:47] so [1:55:47] much [1:55:47] time [1:55:48] in [1:55:48] building [1:55:49] up [1:55:49] the [1:55:49] case [1:55:49] tapos [1:55:50] sa [1:55:50] amin [1:55:50] din [1:55:51] po [1:55:51] yung [1:55:51] pag [1:55:52] procure [1:55:53] ng [1:55:53] mga [1:55:53] documents [1:55:54] na [1:55:54] kailangan [1:55:54] ng [1:55:54] OSG [1:55:55] to [1:55:55] have [1:55:56] strong [1:55:58] case [1:55:59] and [1:55:59] evidence [1:56:00] also [1:56:00] and [1:56:01] in fact [1:56:02] the [1:56:02] OSG [1:56:02] is [1:56:03] very [1:56:03] kind [1:56:03] enough [1:56:03] to [1:56:04] help [1:56:04] us [1:56:04] already [1:56:05] kung [1:56:05] merong [1:56:06] mga [1:56:06] documents [1:56:06] na [1:56:07] kailangan [1:56:07] namin [1:56:07] doon [1:56:08] sa [1:56:08] mga [1:56:09] ibang [1:56:09] agency [1:56:09] so [1:56:10] sila [1:56:11] din [1:56:11] nagli-li-iaise [1:56:11] na din [1:56:12] doon [1:56:12] sa pag-file [1:56:13] ng [1:56:13] case [1:56:13] and [1:56:13] this [1:56:14] will [1:56:14] take [1:56:14] a [1:56:14] lot [1:56:14] of [1:56:15] time [1:56:15] bukod [1:56:16] pa [1:56:16] doon [1:56:17] your [1:56:17] honor [1:56:17] in [1:56:18] the [1:56:18] case [1:56:22] for [1:56:22] the [1:56:23] publication [1:56:23] alone [1:56:24] so [1:56:25] yung [1:56:25] mga [1:56:25] out [1:56:26] of [1:56:26] office [1:56:26] expense [1:56:27] na [1:56:27] hindi [1:56:27] pa [1:56:28] doon [1:56:28] kasama [1:56:28] so [1:56:28] just [1:56:29] come [1:56:30] to [1:56:30] think [1:56:30] of [1:56:30] it [1:56:30] if [1:56:31] we [1:56:31] are [1:56:31] going [1:56:32] to [1:56:32] file [1:56:32] all [1:56:32] the [1:56:32] 1,484 [1:56:35] cases [1:56:35] times [1:56:36] roughly [1:56:37] around [1:56:37] 600,000 [1:56:38] it would [1:56:38] cost us [1:56:39] around [1:56:39] 90 [1:56:39] million [1:56:40] to [1:56:40] just [1:56:40] wipe [1:56:43] out [1:56:43] this [1:56:44] fraudulent [1:56:45] birth [1:56:46] records [1:56:46] ang [1:56:53] medyo [1:56:54] sa [1:56:54] iba [1:56:54] tibang [1:56:54] aspeto [1:56:55] ng [1:56:55] national [1:56:55] life [1:56:55] natin [1:56:56] pero [1:56:56] yung [1:56:56] kailangan [1:56:57] paggastos [1:56:58] pa [1:56:58] para [1:56:59] lang [1:56:59] is [1:56:59] taunch [1:57:00] yung [1:57:00] ganitong [1:57:01] klaseng [1:57:01] hemorrhage [1:57:02] so [1:57:03] again [1:57:03] it [1:57:03] gives [1:57:04] us [1:57:04] that [1:57:04] additional [1:57:05] sense [1:57:06] of [1:57:06] urgency [1:57:07] okay [1:57:10] so [1:57:13] in terms [1:57:14] of the [1:57:14] process [1:57:14] kapag [1:57:14] may [1:57:15] credible [1:57:15] finding [1:57:15] na po [1:57:16] yung [1:57:16] PSA [1:57:17] na [1:57:18] potentially [1:57:19] fraudulent [1:57:20] ang isang [1:57:20] birth [1:57:21] certificate [1:57:21] sino [1:57:22] po [1:57:22] yung [1:57:23] unang [1:57:23] at [1:57:24] mga [1:57:24] sinasabihan [1:57:25] nyo [1:57:25] DFA [1:57:26] nga [1:57:26] ba [1:57:26] BI [1:57:27] NBI [1:57:28] iba [1:57:29] pang [1:57:29] agencies [1:57:30] na [1:57:30] nagre-relye [1:57:31] sa identity [1:57:31] na iyan [1:57:32] kasi [1:57:32] nga [1:57:32] ang [1:57:33] lawak [1:57:33] ng [1:57:33] beneficiyong [1:57:34] nagbubukas [1:57:35] sa isang [1:57:35] taong [1:57:36] nakakuha [1:57:36] ng [1:57:36] Filipino [1:57:37] citizenship [1:57:38] so [1:57:38] sino-sino [1:57:39] mga [1:57:39] regulators [1:57:40] or may [1:57:41] oversight [1:57:42] dito [1:57:42] ang [1:57:42] sinasabihan [1:57:43] nyo [1:57:43] sinasabihan [1:57:47] namin [1:57:47] or [1:57:47] nag [1:57:48] communicate [1:57:49] kami [1:57:50] sa [1:57:50] Bureau [1:57:52] of [1:57:52] Immigration [1:57:52] DFA [1:57:53] we [1:57:54] send [1:57:55] the list [1:57:56] of [1:57:56] those [1:57:56] that [1:57:57] we [1:57:57] have [1:57:57] determined [1:57:58] that [1:57:59] there [1:58:00] is [1:58:01] an [1:58:02] evidence [1:58:02] of [1:58:02] fraud [1:58:03] and [1:58:04] also [1:58:04] those [1:58:04] that [1:58:05] we [1:58:05] have [1:58:05] already [1:58:05] blocked [1:58:06] before [1:58:09] blocking [1:58:09] your [1:58:10] honor [1:58:10] baka [1:58:10] nakakuha [1:58:11] na [1:58:11] siya [1:58:11] ng [1:58:11] record [1:58:12] niya [1:58:12] so [1:58:13] kapag [1:58:15] na [1:58:16] determine [1:58:16] namin [1:58:17] na [1:58:17] fraudulent [1:58:18] ito [1:58:18] bigla [1:58:19] block [1:58:19] namin [1:58:19] sa [1:58:20] civil [1:58:20] registry [1:58:20] database [1:58:21] para [1:58:22] hindi [1:58:22] na [1:58:22] makakuha [1:58:23] ng [1:58:23] birth [1:58:24] record [1:58:24] tapos [1:58:27] sinasabihan [1:58:28] din [1:58:28] namin [1:58:28] ang [1:58:29] LTO [1:58:29] ang [1:58:30] DFA [1:58:31] ang [1:58:31] BI [1:58:32] that [1:58:33] these [1:58:34] individuals [1:58:36] these [1:58:37] names [1:58:37] are [1:58:38] already [1:58:39] blocked [1:58:39] in [1:58:40] our [1:58:40] system [1:58:40] so [1:58:41] baka [1:58:41] meron [1:58:41] silang [1:58:41] pinapresent [1:58:42] pa [1:58:42] na [1:58:43] mga [1:58:44] documents [1:58:45] birth [1:58:45] certificate [1:58:46] just [1:58:48] to [1:58:48] watch [1:58:48] out [1:58:48] parang [1:58:49] ganun [1:58:49] po [1:58:49] yung [1:58:49] messaging [1:58:51] po [1:58:51] namin [1:58:51] sa [1:58:52] ating [1:58:52] mga [1:58:52] other [1:58:53] government [1:58:54] agencies [1:58:54] your [1:58:55] honor [1:58:55] yun [1:58:55] pala [1:58:56] first [1:58:56] time [1:58:57] ko [1:58:57] narinig [1:58:57] na [1:58:57] may [1:58:57] blocking [1:58:58] kayong [1:58:59] ginagawa [1:59:00] that's [1:59:01] good [1:59:01] para [1:59:01] siyang [1:59:02] yung [1:59:02] mga [1:59:02] nung [1:59:03] mas [1:59:04] uso [1:59:05] pa [1:59:05] yung [1:59:05] mga [1:59:05] help [1:59:06] wanted [1:59:06] pages [1:59:07] sa [1:59:07] mga [1:59:07] jaryo [1:59:07] yung [1:59:08] mga [1:59:08] pinupost [1:59:09] na [1:59:09] this [1:59:09] person [1:59:10] these [1:59:10] persons [1:59:11] are [1:59:11] no [1:59:11] longer [1:59:11] connected [1:59:12] to [1:59:13] the [1:59:13] company [1:59:14] so [1:59:14] dapat [1:59:16] at least [1:59:17] pag [1:59:18] binablock [1:59:18] nyo [1:59:19] dinideny [1:59:20] nyo [1:59:20] ng [1:59:20] access [1:59:21] na [1:59:21] makakuha [1:59:21] ng [1:59:21] kopya [1:59:22] na [1:59:22] magagamit [1:59:22] nila [1:59:23] for [1:59:24] other [1:59:24] transactions [1:59:25] posing [1:59:25] as [1:59:26] Filipinos [1:59:26] then [1:59:29] huli [1:59:29] sa [1:59:29] ngayon [1:59:30] attorney [1:59:30] ang [1:59:30] batali [1:59:31] kung [1:59:32] wala [1:59:33] pa [1:59:33] sa [1:59:33] ngayon [1:59:33] automatic [1:59:34] alert [1:59:35] hindi [1:59:37] ba [1:59:37] dapat [1:59:37] mayroon [1:59:38] kasi [1:59:38] habang [1:59:39] naging [1:59:39] investiga [1:59:40] tayo [1:59:41] ayun [1:59:41] na nga [1:59:41] kung [1:59:42] prior [1:59:42] sa [1:59:43] blocking [1:59:43] maaring [1:59:43] ginagamit [1:59:44] pa [1:59:44] yung birth [1:59:44] certificate [1:59:45] para nga [1:59:45] mag [1:59:46] obtain [1:59:46] ang iba [1:59:46] pang-government [1:59:47] document [1:59:48] yes [1:59:49] your [1:59:49] honor [1:59:50] hindi [1:59:51] automatic [1:59:51] but [1:59:52] there [1:59:53] are [1:59:53] efforts [1:59:53] to [1:59:54] communicate [1:59:54] it [1:59:55] like [1:59:55] say [1:59:55] for [1:59:55] example [1:59:55] we [1:59:56] have [1:59:56] an [1:59:57] information [1:59:57] or [1:59:58] we [1:59:58] have [1:59:58] already [1:59:58] investigated [1:59:59] a [1:59:59] certain [1:59:59] case [2:00:00] that [2:00:01] this [2:00:01] is [2:00:02] pertaining [2:00:03] to [2:00:03] a [2:00:03] fraudulently [2:00:04] procured [2:00:05] document [2:00:05] we [2:00:06] sent [2:00:07] notice [2:00:07] to [2:00:08] our [2:00:09] counterparts [2:00:09] like [2:00:10] the [2:00:10] Bureau [2:00:10] of [2:00:10] Immigration [2:00:11] like [2:00:11] the [2:00:11] DFA [2:00:12] NBI [2:00:13] LTO [2:00:14] so [2:00:15] dito [2:00:18] lang [2:00:18] dito [2:00:18] lang [2:00:18] siguro [2:00:19] medyo [2:00:19] may lag [2:00:22] po [2:00:22] yung [2:00:22] pag [2:00:23] communicate [2:00:23] gano'ng [2:00:24] katagal [2:00:25] yung lag [2:00:25] sa ngayon [2:00:26] well [2:00:28] kung [2:00:29] mano-manong [2:00:29] letter [2:00:30] po [2:00:30] kasi [2:00:30] yung [2:00:30] pasahan [2:00:32] natin [2:00:32] ng [2:00:33] communication [2:00:33] there's [2:00:34] a certain [2:00:35] mga [2:00:36] few [2:00:36] days [2:00:37] na [2:00:37] sabi [2:00:40] nyo [2:00:41] nga [2:00:41] dinidigitized [2:00:42] yun [2:00:42] yung [2:00:42] mga [2:00:42] proseso [2:00:43] pati [2:00:43] yung [2:00:43] coordination [2:00:44] dinidigitized [2:00:45] na ba [2:00:45] yes [2:00:46] your [2:00:46] honor [2:00:47] but [2:00:47] we [2:00:48] need [2:00:48] somehow [2:00:49] a [2:00:49] legal [2:00:50] framework [2:00:50] para [2:00:52] iisa [2:00:52] yung [2:00:54] purpose [2:00:54] ng [2:00:55] interagency [2:00:56] committee [2:00:57] kung [2:00:57] magkakaroon tayo [2:00:58] ng [2:00:58] interagency [2:00:59] committee [2:00:59] na [2:00:59] bubuoy [2:01:01] gano'n [2:01:03] para [2:01:03] at least [2:01:04] alam na [2:01:04] ng [2:01:04] bawat [2:01:04] agency [2:01:05] kung [2:01:06] para [2:01:06] saan [2:01:07] yung [2:01:07] purpose [2:01:07] na yun [2:01:08] para [2:01:08] hindi [2:01:08] na tayo [2:01:08] nag-determine [2:01:10] kung [2:01:10] ito [2:01:11] ba [2:01:11] ay [2:01:11] papaso [2:01:11] sa [2:01:12] data [2:01:12] privacy [2:01:12] or [2:01:13] something [2:01:13] else [2:01:13] because [2:01:15] I [2:01:15] think [2:01:15] meron [2:01:16] naman [2:01:16] pong [2:01:16] legitimate [2:01:17] purpose [2:01:17] itong [2:01:17] mga [2:01:18] ginagamah [2:01:18] natin [2:01:19] definitely [2:01:19] kumalabas [2:01:20] sa [2:01:20] investigasyong [2:01:21] ito [2:01:21] I [2:01:22] mean [2:01:22] hindi [2:01:23] dapat [2:01:23] na [2:01:24] yung [2:01:24] mga [2:01:24] maabuso [2:01:25] na [2:01:25] sa [2:01:26] mga [2:01:26] sistema [2:01:26] natin [2:01:27] para [2:01:28] pakinabangan [2:01:29] yung [2:01:33] thumb their [2:01:34] nose [2:01:34] at [2:01:35] our [2:01:35] systems [2:01:36] at [2:01:36] sabihin [2:01:36] ah [2:01:36] dito [2:01:37] tayo [2:01:37] pwedeng [2:01:37] lumusot [2:01:38] or [2:01:38] dito [2:01:38] tayo [2:01:39] pwedeng [2:01:39] mauna [2:01:40] dahil [2:01:40] mas [2:01:40] mabagal [2:01:41] itong [2:01:41] mga [2:01:41] prosesong [2:01:42] ito [2:01:42] hindi [2:01:42] talaga [2:01:43] po [2:01:43] pwede [2:01:43] salamat [2:01:44] attorney [2:01:45] ang [2:01:45] batali [2:01:45] and [2:01:46] so [2:01:46] dako [2:01:47] na [2:01:47] ako [2:01:47] sa [2:01:47] DFA [2:01:48] yes [2:01:49] director [2:01:50] Matibar [2:01:50] I [2:01:51] just [2:01:51] want [2:01:51] to [2:01:51] share [2:01:52] I'm [2:01:52] thinking [2:01:52] of [2:01:52] something [2:01:53] after [2:01:53] listening [2:01:54] to [2:01:54] everybody [2:01:55] maganda [2:01:57] po [2:01:57] lahat [2:01:58] your [2:01:58] recommendation [2:01:58] of [2:01:59] OSGA [2:02:04] confirm [2:02:06] talaga [2:02:06] po [2:02:07] may [2:02:07] mga [2:02:07] kaya [2:02:08] namin [2:02:08] nahabol [2:02:08] yan [2:02:09] dahil [2:02:09] sila [2:02:09] po [2:02:09] yung [2:02:09] algorithm [2:02:11] audit [2:02:11] dyan [2:02:11] doon [2:02:12] po [2:02:12] nang [2:02:12] galing [2:02:13] pero [2:02:13] right [2:02:14] now [2:02:14] alam [2:02:15] na [2:02:15] natin [2:02:16] we [2:02:16] all [2:02:17] agree [2:02:17] na [2:02:17] doon [2:02:18] sa [2:02:18] mga [2:02:18] nag [2:02:19] registration [2:02:19] na [2:02:20] yan [2:02:20] marami [2:02:21] talaga [2:02:21] dyan [2:02:21] mga [2:02:22] foreign [2:02:23] nationals [2:02:24] na pumasok [2:02:24] sa atin [2:02:25] so [2:02:26] definitely [2:02:26] nung pumasok [2:02:27] dito [2:02:27] yan [2:02:27] at [2:02:28] the [2:02:28] least [2:02:28] there [2:02:28] is [2:02:28] a [2:02:29] record [2:02:29] sa [2:02:29] immigration [2:02:30] yan [2:02:30] pumasok [2:02:31] sila [2:02:31] sa [2:02:32] foreign [2:02:33] nationals [2:02:33] and [2:02:33] I'd like [2:02:34] to [2:02:35] address [2:02:35] this [2:02:35] that [2:02:36] but [2:02:36] probably [2:02:36] baka [2:02:37] may [2:02:37] solution [2:02:37] ng [2:02:37] immigration [2:02:39] na [2:02:39] immediate [2:02:40] because [2:02:41] yung [2:02:41] ating [2:02:42] mong [2:02:42] pinag-uusapan [2:02:43] it will [2:02:43] take [2:02:43] time [2:02:44] para [2:02:44] ma-address [2:02:44] natin [2:02:45] but [2:02:45] there [2:02:46] is a [2:02:46] clear [2:02:46] and [2:02:46] present [2:02:47] danger [2:02:47] right [2:02:47] now [2:02:48] na [2:02:48] meron [2:02:48] nakapasok [2:02:49] sa [2:02:49] sistema [2:02:50] natin [2:02:50] na [2:02:50] hindi [2:02:51] natin [2:02:51] alam [2:02:51] bukod [2:02:52] sa [2:02:52] nagninegosyo [2:02:52] kung [2:02:53] ano [2:02:53] pa [2:02:53] yung [2:02:53] danger [2:02:54] sa [2:02:54] national [2:02:54] security [2:02:55] so [2:02:56] I [2:02:57] understand [2:02:57] that [2:03:02] foreign [2:03:05] national [2:03:05] even [2:03:06] without [2:03:06] going [2:03:07] through [2:03:07] the [2:03:07] judicial [2:03:07] process [2:03:08] lalo [2:03:09] na [2:03:09] kung [2:03:09] it [2:03:10] entails [2:03:10] national [2:03:10] security [2:03:11] it is [2:03:12] our [2:03:12] sovereign [2:03:12] right [2:03:13] of [2:03:13] the [2:03:13] state [2:03:13] that [2:03:14] they [2:03:14] can [2:03:14] exercise [2:03:14] to [2:03:15] exclude [2:03:15] that [2:03:16] foreign [2:03:17] individual [2:03:17] what [2:03:19] if [2:03:19] we [2:03:20] already [2:03:20] conducted [2:03:20] the [2:03:21] investigation [2:03:21] with [2:03:22] the [2:03:22] help [2:03:22] of [2:03:22] PSA [2:03:23] established [2:03:23] talaga [2:03:24] natin [2:03:24] nakakuha [2:03:25] lang [2:03:25] birth [2:03:26] certificate [2:03:26] itong [2:03:27] foreigner [2:03:27] na [2:03:27] ito [2:03:28] ibabangga [2:03:29] natin [2:03:29] sa [2:03:30] data [2:03:30] ng [2:03:31] immigration [2:03:31] na [2:03:31] pumasok [2:03:32] on [2:03:33] this [2:03:33] date [2:03:33] bakit [2:03:34] nagkaroon [2:03:35] ito [2:03:35] ng [2:03:35] birth [2:03:36] certificate [2:03:37] na [2:03:37] Pilipino [2:03:37] so [2:03:38] clearly [2:03:39] fraudulent [2:03:40] illegal [2:03:41] yung [2:03:41] pang-acquire [2:03:41] niya [2:03:41] ng [2:03:42] citizenship [2:03:42] niya [2:03:43] ano [2:03:43] ibig [2:03:43] sabihin [2:03:44] ito [2:03:44] it [2:03:44] doesn't [2:03:44] create [2:03:45] any [2:03:45] legal [2:03:46] right [2:03:46] so [2:03:47] ang [2:03:47] punto [2:03:48] ko [2:03:48] rito [2:03:48] is [2:03:49] can [2:03:49] the [2:03:50] immigration [2:03:50] exercise [2:03:51] its [2:03:52] power [2:03:52] to [2:03:52] exclude [2:03:53] an [2:03:53] undesirable [2:03:54] alien [2:03:54] for [2:03:55] violating [2:03:55] clearly [2:03:56] violating [2:03:56] our [2:03:56] law [2:03:58] na [2:03:59] hindi [2:03:59] na tayo [2:03:59] dumaan [2:03:59] pa [2:04:00] sa [2:04:00] process [2:04:00] itapon [2:04:01] na [2:04:01] natin [2:04:01] babalik [2:04:02] then [2:04:02] we [2:04:02] do [2:04:03] the [2:04:03] process [2:04:03] of [2:04:03] cancellation [2:04:04] and [2:04:04] everything [2:04:05] including [2:04:06] yung [2:04:06] perpetuate [2:04:07] ng mga [2:04:07] assets [2:04:08] na [2:04:08] binuo nila [2:04:09] rito [2:04:09] ang [2:04:10] sakin [2:04:11] po [2:04:11] rito [2:04:11] kasi [2:04:11] this [2:04:11] is [2:04:11] an [2:04:12] immediate [2:04:12] action [2:04:13] it [2:04:13] calls [2:04:13] for [2:04:13] an [2:04:14] immediate [2:04:14] action [2:04:14] and [2:04:15] I [2:04:16] sympathize [2:04:17] with [2:04:17] the [2:04:17] OSG [2:04:18] isipin [2:04:18] nyo [2:04:18] 1,400 [2:04:21] cases [2:04:22] yan [2:04:22] ilan [2:04:22] pa lang [2:04:22] yung [2:04:22] mapapain [2:04:23] alis [2:04:23] go [2:04:23] it [2:04:24] took [2:04:24] more [2:04:25] than [2:04:25] a [2:04:25] year [2:04:25] and [2:04:26] hindi [2:04:26] lang [2:04:27] naman [2:04:27] po [2:04:27] yan [2:04:27] yung [2:04:27] trabaho [2:04:28] ng [2:04:28] OSG [2:04:28] ngayon [2:04:28] napakarami [2:04:29] nilang [2:04:29] ginagawa [2:04:30] so [2:04:31] baka [2:04:32] naman [2:04:33] pwede [2:04:33] na [2:04:33] but [2:04:34] more [2:04:34] than [2:04:34] that [2:04:35] is [2:04:35] my [2:04:35] concern [2:04:35] on [2:04:36] our [2:04:36] national [2:04:36] interest [2:04:37] national [2:04:37] security [2:04:38] there is [2:04:38] a clear [2:04:39] and present [2:04:39] danger [2:04:40] mayroong [2:04:41] pumasok [2:04:41] at [2:04:41] it's [2:04:42] being seen [2:04:43] ngayon [2:04:43] our [2:04:43] law [2:04:43] enforcement [2:04:44] enforce [2:04:45] tayo [2:04:45] ng [2:04:45] product [2:04:47] standards [2:04:48] mayroong [2:04:49] tayong [2:04:49] even [2:04:49] politically [2:04:50] may nakikita [2:04:51] natin [2:04:51] may nakikialam [2:04:52] may mga [2:04:53] pumapasok [2:04:53] na pera [2:04:54] state [2:04:54] sponsored [2:04:55] ng [2:04:55] mga [2:04:56] companies [2:04:56] nagdadala [2:04:57] sa atin [2:04:57] ng [2:04:58] pera [2:04:58] using [2:04:59] these [2:04:59] individuals [2:05:00] so [2:05:01] we [2:05:01] just [2:05:01] investigate [2:05:02] look at [2:05:03] the [2:05:03] records [2:05:03] of [2:05:03] the [2:05:04] immigration [2:05:05] kailan [2:05:05] pumasok [2:05:06] to [2:05:06] o [2:05:06] paano [2:05:06] nangyari [2:05:08] na [2:05:09] naging [2:05:10] Pilipino [2:05:11] to [2:05:11] then we [2:05:12] exclude [2:05:12] let's [2:05:13] exercise [2:05:14] our [2:05:14] sovereign [2:05:14] right [2:05:15] that [2:05:15] cannot [2:05:16] be [2:05:16] taken [2:05:16] away [2:05:16] even [2:05:17] the [2:05:17] judiciary [2:05:17] hindi [2:05:18] pwedeng [2:05:18] makialam [2:05:19] doon [2:05:20] so [2:05:20] yun [2:05:21] lang [2:05:21] po [2:05:21] sakin [2:05:21] baka [2:05:22] pwede [2:05:23] na may [2:05:23] ganon [2:05:24] and [2:05:24] I [2:05:24] think [2:05:25] baka [2:05:25] the [2:05:25] immigration [2:05:26] can be [2:05:26] the [2:05:26] one [2:05:26] to [2:05:26] do [2:05:27] that [2:05:27] and [2:05:28] we [2:05:28] will [2:05:28] investigate [2:05:29] eto [2:05:29] maliwanag [2:05:30] na [2:05:30] established [2:05:31] na [2:05:31] with [2:05:32] the [2:05:32] help [2:05:32] of [2:05:32] PSA [2:05:32] and [2:05:33] other [2:05:33] law [2:05:34] enforcement [2:05:34] PNP [2:05:36] and DOJ [2:05:38] yun lang [2:05:39] mama [2:05:39] sakin [2:05:39] lang po [2:05:40] because [2:05:40] I want [2:05:41] an [2:05:41] immediate [2:05:42] solution [2:05:42] for what [2:05:43] we have [2:05:44] right [2:05:44] now [2:05:44] ang dami [2:05:45] nun [2:05:45] yung [2:05:46] 50,000 [2:05:46] hindi [2:05:47] naman [2:05:47] natin [2:05:47] sinabi [2:05:48] lahat [2:05:48] di ba [2:05:48] pero [2:05:48] the [2:05:49] possibility [2:05:49] is [2:05:50] there [2:05:50] kahit [2:05:51] liman [2:05:51] libon [2:05:51] lang [2:05:52] or [2:05:52] yung [2:05:52] isang [2:05:52] liman [2:05:53] na [2:05:53] lang [2:05:53] and [2:05:55] look at [2:05:55] the [2:05:55] damage [2:05:56] alis [2:05:56] go [2:05:56] hindi [2:05:57] lang [2:05:57] imagine [2:05:59] yung [2:06:00] electoral [2:06:00] system [2:06:01] natin [2:06:01] the [2:06:02] bus [2:06:02] and [2:06:05] we [2:06:05] have [2:06:06] to [2:06:06] set [2:06:06] a [2:06:06] tone [2:06:07] na [2:06:07] internationally [2:06:08] yung [2:06:09] Pilipinas [2:06:09] we will [2:06:10] not [2:06:10] allow [2:06:11] it [2:06:11] we are [2:06:12] sending [2:06:12] a signal [2:06:12] we will [2:06:13] not [2:06:13] allow [2:06:13] our [2:06:14] country [2:06:14] to [2:06:14] behave [2:06:15] for [2:06:15] these [2:06:15] people [2:06:15] at [2:06:16] baka [2:06:16] naman [2:06:16] undesirable [2:06:17] people [2:06:18] din [2:06:18] sa [2:06:18] kanila [2:06:18] yan [2:06:18] eh [2:06:19] na [2:06:19] kailangan [2:06:20] nilang [2:06:20] parusahan [2:06:21] so [2:06:21] yun [2:06:21] po [2:06:22] hindi [2:06:23] yan [2:06:23] lang [2:06:24] important [2:06:25] bagay [2:06:25] so [2:06:26] attorney [2:06:26] nakna [2:06:27] so [2:06:27] in the [2:06:28] face [2:06:28] of [2:06:28] that [2:06:28] clear [2:06:29] and [2:06:29] present [2:06:29] danger [2:06:30] yung [2:06:31] hamon [2:06:32] sa atin [2:06:32] itaguyod [2:06:33] yung [2:06:33] national [2:06:34] sovereignty [2:06:35] natin [2:06:36] and yung [2:06:37] standing [2:06:37] natin [2:06:37] sa region [2:06:38] at sa buong [2:06:39] international [2:06:39] community [2:06:40] kaya na [2:06:41] bang [2:06:41] i-operationalize [2:06:43] ng BI [2:06:44] yung [2:06:44] exclusion [2:06:44] process [2:06:45] na yan [2:06:45] fully [2:06:46] fleshed [2:06:47] out [2:06:47] na ba [2:06:47] at [2:06:47] nasa [2:06:48] fingertips [2:06:48] na po [2:06:49] ba [2:06:49] ng [2:06:49] bureau [2:06:49] yung [2:06:50] instrument [2:06:51] na [2:06:51] iyan [2:06:51] in the [2:06:52] cases [2:06:52] that [2:06:52] we [2:06:53] are [2:06:53] looking [2:06:53] at [2:06:53] today [2:06:54] yes [2:06:55] ma'am [2:06:55] ganito [2:06:56] po [2:06:56] yun [2:06:56] we can [2:06:58] start [2:06:58] with [2:06:59] the [2:06:59] listed [2:07:00] 1400 [2:07:01] cases [2:07:03] for as [2:07:04] long as [2:07:05] ma-identify [2:07:06] po [2:07:06] natin [2:07:07] yung [2:07:08] foreign [2:07:09] personality [2:07:10] ng tao [2:07:10] kasi [2:07:11] kasi [2:07:11] yung [2:07:12] nakarecord [2:07:12] sa [2:07:12] PSA [2:07:13] are [2:07:13] Filipino [2:07:14] names [2:07:14] I [2:07:15] suppose [2:07:15] but [2:07:16] we [2:07:16] have [2:07:17] to [2:07:17] establish [2:07:17] yung [2:07:17] foreign [2:07:18] identity [2:07:18] niya [2:07:19] through [2:07:20] the [2:07:20] help [2:07:20] of [2:07:20] the [2:07:20] NBI [2:07:21] and [2:07:22] then [2:07:22] it [2:07:22] will [2:07:23] ripen [2:07:23] into [2:07:23] an [2:07:24] immigration [2:07:24] case [2:07:25] for [2:07:26] undesirability [2:07:27] or [2:07:27] for [2:07:28] doing [2:07:28] illegal [2:07:29] immigration [2:07:30] violations [2:07:31] and [2:07:32] then [2:07:32] we [2:07:32] can [2:07:32] deport [2:07:33] them [2:07:33] ma'am [2:07:34] so [2:07:35] the [2:07:35] deportation [2:07:36] procedure [2:07:36] anyway [2:07:37] is an [2:07:38] administrative [2:07:38] process [2:07:39] which [2:07:40] does not [2:07:41] need [2:07:41] the [2:07:42] court's [2:07:43] processes [2:07:44] so [2:07:45] immediately [2:07:45] after [2:07:46] finding out [2:07:46] this [2:07:46] violation [2:07:47] and [2:07:47] we [2:07:47] have [2:07:47] confirmed [2:07:48] that [2:07:48] this [2:07:48] is [2:07:48] a [2:07:48] foreigner [2:07:49] and [2:07:49] has [2:07:50] violated [2:07:50] the [2:07:50] immigration [2:07:51] law [2:07:51] the [2:07:52] board [2:07:52] of [2:07:52] commissioners [2:07:53] will [2:07:53] decide [2:07:54] for [2:07:54] their [2:07:54] deportation [2:07:55] yes [2:07:56] ma'am [2:07:57] so [2:07:57] yes [2:07:58] please [2:07:59] complete [2:08:00] your [2:08:00] yes [2:08:01] I [2:08:01] have [2:08:01] a [2:08:02] suggestion [2:08:02] ma'am [2:08:03] for [2:08:03] PSA [2:08:04] and [2:08:04] for [2:08:04] BI [2:08:05] to [2:08:05] coordinate [2:08:06] for [2:08:07] future [2:08:07] registration [2:08:08] of [2:08:08] late [2:08:09] birth [2:08:10] certificates [2:08:11] why not [2:08:12] include [2:08:13] in your [2:08:13] system [2:08:14] a requirement [2:08:15] of [2:08:15] clearance [2:08:16] from [2:08:16] BI [2:08:17] so [2:08:18] that [2:08:18] immediately [2:08:19] you [2:08:20] let [2:08:20] the [2:08:20] person [2:08:21] report [2:08:21] physically [2:08:22] to [2:08:22] the [2:08:23] BI [2:08:23] so [2:08:24] that [2:08:24] we [2:08:24] can [2:08:24] capture [2:08:25] the [2:08:25] fingerprints [2:08:25] and [2:08:26] compare [2:08:27] it [2:08:27] to [2:08:27] the [2:08:27] set [2:08:27] of [2:08:28] fingerprints [2:08:28] in [2:08:29] our [2:08:29] database [2:08:29] as [2:08:30] part [2:08:31] of [2:08:31] the [2:08:31] process [2:08:32] before [2:08:32] you [2:08:32] will [2:08:32] include [2:08:33] them [2:08:33] in [2:08:33] your [2:08:33] database [2:08:34] in [2:08:34] PSA [2:08:35] Salamat [2:08:37] Attorney [2:08:37] Naknak [2:08:38] let's [2:08:38] go to [2:08:38] that [2:08:38] second [2:08:39] but [2:08:39] first [2:08:40] yung [2:08:40] urgent [2:08:41] action [2:08:41] natin [2:08:41] dun [2:08:42] sa [2:08:42] clear [2:08:42] and [2:08:42] present [2:08:43] danger [2:08:43] so [2:08:44] NBI [2:08:44] yung [2:08:45] 1000 [2:08:45] plus [2:08:46] fully [2:08:46] investigated [2:08:46] na po [2:08:47] siya [2:08:47] sa ngayon [2:08:48] makukumpleto [2:08:49] namin [2:08:49] pero [2:08:50] yun [2:08:51] talaga [2:08:51] yung [2:08:51] may [2:08:51] suspect [2:08:52] sa [2:08:52] mga [2:08:54] kailan [2:08:54] nyo [2:08:54] tansyang [2:08:55] makukumpleto [2:08:56] na po [2:08:56] once [2:09:00] we [2:09:00] get [2:09:00] the [2:09:00] we [2:09:01] have [2:09:01] requested [2:09:01] sa [2:09:01] PSA [2:09:02] once [2:09:02] we [2:09:02] get [2:09:02] it [2:09:03] makukumpleto [2:09:04] po [2:09:04] namin [2:09:04] salamat [2:09:05] director [2:09:06] siguro [2:09:07] 30 days [2:09:10] at least [2:09:11] hindi [2:09:11] lahat [2:09:12] pero [2:09:12] a big [2:09:13] part [2:09:13] of it [2:09:13] malaman [2:09:14] natin [2:09:14] by [2:09:14] process [2:09:15] of [2:09:15] exclusion [2:09:15] Salamat [2:09:17] and [2:09:17] PSA [2:09:18] kailan [2:09:19] po [2:09:19] makukumpleto [2:09:20] yung [2:09:20] requirements [2:09:21] 1,000 [2:09:22] plus [2:09:23] na yun [2:09:23] para [2:09:24] maibigay [2:09:26] sa [2:09:26] NBI [2:09:26] yes [2:09:30] your [2:09:31] honor [2:09:31] we'll [2:09:32] talk [2:09:33] with [2:09:33] the [2:09:33] NBI [2:09:34] kung [2:09:34] ano [2:09:34] yung [2:09:34] kailangan [2:09:35] if [2:09:36] the [2:09:36] list [2:09:36] kung [2:09:37] listahan [2:09:38] yung [2:09:38] kailangan [2:09:40] nila [2:09:40] and [2:09:41] some [2:09:41] information [2:09:42] po [2:09:42] we [2:09:42] can [2:09:43] send [2:09:43] it [2:09:44] to [2:09:44] them [2:09:44] right [2:09:44] away [2:09:45] like [2:09:45] at [2:09:46] most [2:09:46] siguro [2:09:47] baka [2:09:47] by [2:09:47] next [2:09:47] week [2:09:48] may [2:09:49] send [2:09:49] namin [2:09:50] po [2:09:50] sa [2:09:50] NBI [2:09:51] alright [2:09:52] so [2:09:52] if [2:09:53] within [2:09:53] and [2:09:53] then [2:09:54] I'll [2:09:54] go to [2:09:54] Mr. [2:09:54] Kundangan [2:09:55] if [2:09:55] within [2:09:55] one [2:09:56] week [2:09:56] or so [2:09:56] makompleto [2:09:57] ng [2:09:57] PSA [2:09:58] yung [2:09:59] required [2:09:59] documents [2:10:00] and [2:10:01] makompleto [2:10:02] ang [2:10:02] dokumento [2:10:02] sa [2:10:02] NBI [2:10:03] within [2:10:04] possibly [2:10:05] 30 [2:10:05] days [2:10:06] so [2:10:07] So [2:10:08] pag [2:10:08] yan [2:10:09] ay [2:10:09] nasa [2:10:09] kamay [2:10:09] na [2:10:10] ng [2:10:10] BI [2:10:11] you [2:10:11] would [2:10:11] be [2:10:11] able [2:10:12] to [2:10:12] start [2:10:13] the [2:10:14] process [2:10:14] of [2:10:14] exclusion [2:10:15] of [2:10:15] the [2:10:15] 1000 [2:10:16] plus [2:10:16] tama [2:10:17] po ba [2:10:17] Yes [2:10:18] ma'am [2:10:18] the [2:10:18] NBI [2:10:20] will [2:10:20] provide [2:10:20] the [2:10:21] names [2:10:21] we can [2:10:22] immediately [2:10:22] place [2:10:23] them [2:10:23] in the [2:10:23] watch list [2:10:24] order [2:10:24] and [2:10:25] blacklist [2:10:25] them [2:10:25] and then [2:10:26] the process [2:10:27] of [2:10:27] deportation [2:10:27] proceedings [2:10:28] will [2:10:28] come in [2:10:29] Ano [2:10:31] naman [2:10:32] po [2:10:32] yung [2:10:32] time [2:10:32] frame [2:10:33] sa [2:10:33] ganong [2:10:33] proseso [2:10:34] yung [2:10:34] watch list [2:10:38] pag [2:10:38] block [2:10:39] and then [2:10:39] eventual [2:10:41] deportation [2:10:42] of those [2:10:42] na madesisyon [2:10:43] na ng [2:10:43] board [2:10:43] of [2:10:43] commissioners [2:10:44] na [2:10:44] i-deport [2:10:45] For [2:10:46] the [2:10:46] watch [2:10:46] list [2:10:47] and [2:10:47] black [2:10:47] list [2:10:47] ma'am [2:10:48] it's [2:10:48] that's [2:10:48] immediate [2:10:48] within [2:10:49] a week [2:10:50] or so [2:10:51] or even [2:10:51] a day [2:10:52] as long [2:10:52] as the [2:10:53] files [2:10:53] are [2:10:54] delivered [2:10:54] to us [2:10:55] for [2:10:56] the [2:10:56] deportation [2:10:56] it may [2:10:57] take [2:10:57] a month [2:10:58] depends [2:10:59] on [2:10:59] the [2:11:00] cases [2:11:02] depending [2:11:03] on [2:11:04] the [2:11:04] volume [2:11:05] of [2:11:05] the [2:11:05] cases [2:11:05] or [2:11:06] the [2:11:06] evidence [2:11:11] presented [2:11:12] by the [2:11:12] parties [2:11:13] So [2:11:14] before [2:11:15] I go [2:11:15] to [2:11:15] Sir [2:11:16] Kundangan [2:11:16] so [2:11:17] kung [2:11:17] one [2:11:18] week [2:11:19] makompleto [2:11:19] ng [2:11:20] PSA [2:11:21] one [2:11:22] month [2:11:23] matrabaho [2:11:26] ng [2:11:26] NBI [2:11:27] and [2:11:28] then [2:11:28] another [2:11:28] week [2:11:29] para [2:11:30] simulang [2:11:31] aksyon [2:11:31] na [2:11:31] ng [2:11:32] BI [2:11:32] and [2:11:34] then [2:11:34] a [2:11:35] month [2:11:35] within [2:11:36] possibly [2:11:37] two [2:11:38] and [2:11:38] a [2:11:38] half [2:11:38] months [2:11:39] magkaroon [2:11:41] ng [2:11:41] Philippine [2:11:41] government [2:11:42] action [2:11:42] dito [2:11:43] sa [2:11:43] 1000 [2:11:44] plus [2:11:44] so [2:11:44] meaning [2:11:45] by [2:11:46] February [2:11:47] next [2:11:48] year [2:11:48] nagkaroon [2:11:49] na po [2:11:49] ng [2:11:50] urgent [2:11:50] action [2:11:50] on [2:11:51] the [2:11:51] 1000 [2:11:51] plus [2:11:52] having [2:11:53] gone [2:11:54] through [2:11:54] that [2:11:54] process [2:11:55] even [2:11:55] as [2:11:56] ina-action [2:11:58] din [2:11:58] natin [2:11:59] yung [2:11:59] recommendation [2:12:00] ng [2:12:01] OSG [2:12:01] na [2:12:01] by [2:12:02] law [2:12:02] we [2:12:03] provide [2:12:03] for [2:12:03] administrative [2:12:04] cancellation [2:12:04] in [2:12:05] the [2:12:05] case [2:12:05] of [2:12:06] foreign [2:12:06] nationals [2:12:06] so [2:12:07] Mr. [2:12:07] Kudangan [2:12:07] you wanted [2:12:08] to raise [2:12:08] a point [2:12:09] Madam Chair [2:12:09] jumping from [2:12:10] the manifestation [2:12:11] of the [2:12:12] NBI [2:12:12] director [2:12:12] as well [2:12:13] as [2:12:13] from [2:12:13] the [2:12:13] NBI [2:12:14] and [2:12:14] the [2:12:14] PSA [2:12:15] it [2:12:15] is [2:12:15] the [2:12:15] OSG [2:12:16] who [2:12:16] is [2:12:16] appearing [2:12:17] in [2:12:17] court [2:12:17] ideally [2:12:20] I [2:12:21] agree [2:12:22] na [2:12:23] pwede [2:12:23] po tayo [2:12:24] mag [2:12:24] exclusion [2:12:24] however [2:12:25] there [2:12:26] is [2:12:26] a [2:12:26] presumption [2:12:27] of [2:12:27] regularity [2:12:28] on [2:12:28] the [2:12:29] birth [2:12:29] certificate [2:12:29] itself [2:12:30] the [2:12:31] birth [2:12:31] certificate [2:12:31] will [2:12:32] be [2:12:32] the [2:12:32] basis [2:12:33] of [2:12:33] a [2:12:33] court [2:12:33] case [2:12:34] to [2:12:34] be [2:12:34] filed [2:12:34] by [2:12:35] lawyers [2:12:35] mind [2:12:36] you [2:12:36] these [2:12:37] are [2:12:38] wealthy [2:12:40] Chinese [2:12:41] national [2:12:42] the [2:12:42] OSG [2:12:43] is [2:12:43] pragmatic [2:12:43] on [2:12:44] this [2:12:44] matter [2:12:44] we [2:12:45] are [2:12:45] the [2:12:45] one [2:12:45] appearing [2:12:45] in [2:12:46] court [2:12:46] the [2:12:47] NBI [2:12:48] the [2:12:48] the [2:12:49] the [2:12:49] the [2:12:50] BI [2:12:51] and [2:12:51] the [2:12:51] PSA [2:12:52] can [2:12:52] do [2:12:52] their [2:12:52] thing [2:12:53] but [2:12:53] once [2:12:53] a [2:12:53] court [2:12:54] case [2:12:54] is [2:12:54] filed [2:12:54] all [2:12:56] of [2:12:56] these [2:12:56] things [2:12:57] can [2:12:57] be [2:12:57] stopped [2:12:57] by [2:12:58] an [2:12:58] injunction [2:12:58] even [2:13:00] if [2:13:00] it's [2:13:01] an [2:13:01] exclusion [2:13:01] if [2:13:02] there [2:13:03] will [2:13:03] be [2:13:03] a [2:13:03] court [2:13:03] case [2:13:04] for [2:13:04] injunction [2:13:04] and [2:13:05] mind [2:13:05] you [2:13:06] these [2:13:07] are [2:13:07] wealthy [2:13:07] Chinese [2:13:08] business [2:13:08] man [2:13:08] not [2:13:10] only [2:13:10] Chinese [2:13:10] I [2:13:11] am [2:13:11] not [2:13:11] inputting [2:13:14] bias [2:13:14] but [2:13:14] I'm [2:13:14] just [2:13:15] pragmatic [2:13:15] on [2:13:15] this [2:13:15] matter [2:13:16] and [2:13:16] point [2:13:16] is [2:13:17] from [2:13:17] the [2:13:18] start [2:13:18] there [2:13:18] should [2:13:18] be [2:13:19] an [2:13:19] immediate [2:13:19] cancellation [2:13:21] of [2:13:22] late [2:13:22] registration [2:13:23] of [2:13:23] foreign [2:13:23] national [2:13:24] we [2:13:25] can [2:13:25] we [2:13:25] can [2:13:26] alleging [2:13:27] national [2:13:27] security [2:13:28] para [2:13:28] po [2:13:28] tayong [2:13:29] magkaroon [2:13:29] ng [2:13:29] habiyas [2:13:30] corpus [2:13:30] immediate [2:13:31] po [2:13:31] yung [2:13:32] hearing [2:13:32] immediate [2:13:33] if [2:13:33] the [2:13:34] NBI [2:13:34] will [2:13:34] endorse [2:13:35] and the [2:13:35] BI [2:13:36] will [2:13:36] endorse [2:13:37] that [2:13:37] this [2:13:37] involves [2:13:38] national [2:13:38] security [2:13:39] magtitrigger [2:13:41] po yung [2:13:41] administrative [2:13:42] process [2:13:42] na dapat [2:13:43] po [2:13:43] within [2:13:44] three [2:13:44] days [2:13:44] mag-resolve [2:13:45] po [2:13:45] kagad [2:13:45] hindi [2:13:47] isang [2:13:47] buwan [2:13:48] the point [2:13:49] here is [2:13:50] there [2:13:50] should [2:13:50] be [2:13:50] a [2:13:50] process [2:13:51] we [2:13:52] cannot [2:13:52] immediately [2:13:54] set [2:13:54] aside [2:13:55] a birth [2:13:57] certificate [2:13:57] issued [2:13:58] by a [2:13:58] government [2:13:59] agency [2:13:59] which [2:14:00] is [2:14:00] PSA [2:14:00] kasi [2:14:01] on its [2:14:02] face [2:14:02] precious [2:14:02] yun [2:14:03] sa [2:14:03] atin [2:14:03] precisely [2:14:04] it [2:14:05] will [2:14:05] wreak [2:14:06] havoc [2:14:06] if [2:14:07] we [2:14:07] ourselves [2:14:08] a government [2:14:08] agency [2:14:09] is not [2:14:09] recognizing [2:14:10] the [2:14:10] legitimacy [2:14:11] of a [2:14:13] birth [2:14:13] certificate [2:14:13] issued [2:14:14] by [2:14:15] PSA [2:14:16] there is [2:14:16] a [2:14:16] presumption [2:14:17] so [2:14:19] it is [2:14:20] our [2:14:20] humble [2:14:20] submission [2:14:21] Madam Chair [2:14:21] I agree [2:14:22] with the [2:14:23] position [2:14:23] of the [2:14:23] NBI [2:14:24] director [2:14:24] and [2:14:24] with the [2:14:26] BI [2:14:27] but [2:14:27] when a [2:14:28] court case [2:14:28] is filed [2:14:29] argument [2:14:30] nila [2:14:31] Pilipino [2:14:32] ako [2:14:32] tanggalin [2:14:33] mo [2:14:33] muna [2:14:33] yung [2:14:34] aking [2:14:34] pagka [2:14:34] Pilipino [2:14:35] bago [2:14:35] mo [2:14:36] ako [2:14:36] galawin [2:14:36] yun [2:14:39] yun [2:14:39] yun [2:14:39] yun [2:14:39] yun [2:14:39] yun [2:14:39] yun [2:14:40] yun [2:14:41] yun [2:14:41] yun [2:14:41] yun [2:14:42] yun [2:14:42] yun [2:14:42] yun [2:14:42] yun [2:14:42] yun [2:14:43] yun [2:14:44] yun [2:14:44] yun [2:14:44] yun [2:14:45] yun [2:14:46] yun [2:14:46] yun [2:14:46] yun [2:14:48] the [2:14:48] route [2:14:48] na [2:14:49] nire-recommenda [2:14:49] nyo [2:14:50] to [2:14:50] provide [2:14:50] by [2:14:50] law [2:14:51] for [2:14:51] administrative [2:14:52] cancellation [2:14:52] of [2:14:53] late [2:14:53] registration [2:14:54] of [2:14:55] foreign [2:14:55] nationals [2:14:56] but [2:14:57] at the [2:14:57] same [2:14:57] time [2:14:57] in [2:14:58] this [2:14:58] immediate [2:14:59] time [2:15:00] for [2:15:00] some [2:15:01] kind [2:15:01] of [2:15:01] proper [2:15:02] executive [2:15:03] action [2:15:03] na [2:15:04] maisagawa [2:15:05] given [2:15:05] also [2:15:05] yung [2:15:06] tamang [2:15:06] timetables [2:15:07] ng [2:15:07] bawat [2:15:07] agency [2:15:08] just [2:15:08] to [2:15:09] show [2:15:09] yung [2:15:09] intent [2:15:10] ng [2:15:11] gobyerno [2:15:12] nila [2:15:13] sa [2:15:13] executive [2:15:13] to [2:15:15] take [2:15:15] action [2:15:15] and [2:15:15] so [2:15:16] parallel [2:15:16] yung [2:15:17] mangyayari [2:15:17] as [2:15:19] we [2:15:20] always [2:15:21] say [2:15:21] a whole [2:15:21] government [2:15:22] approach [2:15:23] na [2:15:23] bawat [2:15:24] isa [2:15:24] gagawin [2:15:25] yung [2:15:25] tamang [2:15:26] proseso [2:15:27] niya [2:15:27] sa [2:15:27] tamang [2:15:28] sa [2:15:28] required [2:15:29] timetable [2:15:29] salamat [2:15:31] sir [2:15:31] kundangan [2:15:32] yes [2:15:32] director [2:15:32] matibag [2:15:33] i [2:15:33] recognize [2:15:34] that [2:15:35] there [2:15:35] is [2:15:35] a court [2:15:36] proceedings [2:15:36] that's [2:15:37] why [2:15:37] my [2:15:37] premise [2:15:38] is [2:15:38] it's [2:15:38] already [2:15:39] been [2:15:39] established [2:15:39] itong [2:15:40] taong [2:15:40] ito [2:15:40] pumasok [2:15:41] as [2:15:41] foreigner [2:15:41] bigla [2:15:43] na lang [2:15:43] hindi [2:15:44] na siya [2:15:44] lumabas [2:15:45] walang [2:15:45] record [2:15:46] ng [2:15:46] lumabas [2:15:46] walang [2:15:47] ginawa [2:15:48] na [2:15:48] process [2:15:49] except [2:15:49] bigla [2:15:50] na lang [2:15:50] nagkaroon [2:15:50] ng birth [2:15:51] certificate [2:15:51] so [2:15:52] there's [2:15:53] already [2:15:53] a [2:15:54] basis [2:15:54] na [2:15:55] sasabihin [2:15:56] namin [2:15:56] sa [2:15:56] PSA [2:15:57] itong [2:15:58] taong [2:15:59] na to [2:15:59] ito yung [2:15:59] record [2:16:00] from [2:16:00] BI [2:16:00] pumasok [2:16:01] siya [2:16:01] ng [2:16:02] date [2:16:02] na to [2:16:02] wala [2:16:03] namang [2:16:03] record [2:16:04] na [2:16:04] lumabas [2:16:04] wala [2:16:04] namang [2:16:05] application [2:16:05] for [2:16:06] him [2:16:07] to be [2:16:07] a [2:16:07] Filipino [2:16:07] citizen [2:16:08] natabihin [2:16:09] siya [2:16:09] ng [2:16:09] legislation [2:16:10] naging [2:16:11] Pilipino [2:16:12] siya [2:16:12] bigla [2:16:12] so [2:16:13] the [2:16:14] acquisition [2:16:15] of the [2:16:15] birth [2:16:16] certificate [2:16:16] doesn't [2:16:17] create [2:16:17] any [2:16:17] legal [2:16:18] right [2:16:18] but [2:16:18] I [2:16:18] agree [2:16:19] it [2:16:19] should [2:16:20] be [2:16:20] the [2:16:20] court [2:16:20] but [2:16:21] that's [2:16:21] why [2:16:22] I'm [2:16:22] suggesting [2:16:22] there is [2:16:23] an [2:16:23] exclusion [2:16:24] process [2:16:24] being [2:16:25] exercised [2:16:25] by the [2:16:26] Bureau [2:16:26] of [2:16:26] Immigration [2:16:26] let's [2:16:27] do [2:16:27] that [2:16:28] and [2:16:28] meron [2:16:29] naman [2:16:29] sila [2:16:29] judicial [2:16:29] process [2:16:30] okay [2:16:30] you [2:16:30] go [2:16:30] to [2:16:31] court [2:16:31] you [2:16:31] file [2:16:31] the [2:16:31] TRO [2:16:32] but [2:16:32] when [2:16:32] we [2:16:33] go [2:16:33] to [2:16:33] court [2:16:33] PSA [2:16:34] NBR [2:16:35] saying [2:16:36] hindi [2:16:36] talaga [2:16:37] nila [2:16:37] nakuha [2:16:38] na [2:16:38] yun [2:16:38] peke [2:16:38] talaga [2:16:39] nila [2:16:39] na [2:16:39] Pilipino [2:16:40] ito [2:16:40] yung [2:16:40] ginawa [2:16:41] so [2:16:41] let [2:16:42] the [2:16:42] court [2:16:42] decide [2:16:43] on [2:16:43] that [2:16:43] but [2:16:43] what [2:16:43] I'm [2:16:43] saying [2:16:44] is [2:16:44] why [2:16:44] don't [2:16:45] we [2:16:45] exercise [2:16:45] that [2:16:46] available [2:16:46] option [2:16:47] right [2:16:47] now [2:16:47] dahil [2:16:48] ginagawa [2:16:49] naman [2:16:49] ng [2:16:49] Bureau [2:16:50] of [2:16:50] Immigration [2:16:50] yan [2:16:51] pag [2:16:51] may [2:16:51] nakita [2:16:51] silang [2:16:52] area [2:16:52] overstaying [2:16:53] exclusion [2:16:55] proceeding [2:16:55] but [2:16:56] they [2:16:56] have [2:16:56] a [2:16:57] remedy [2:16:57] of [2:16:57] appealing [2:16:58] your [2:16:58] decision [2:16:58] nabu [2:16:58] So [2:17:00] let's [2:17:01] them [2:17:01] challenge [2:17:01] it [2:17:01] but [2:17:02] let's [2:17:02] exercise [2:17:03] whatever [2:17:03] available [2:17:05] tayong [2:17:05] mayroon [2:17:05] tayong [2:17:06] pwedeng [2:17:06] gawing [2:17:06] practice [2:17:07] huwag [2:17:07] na [2:17:08] natin [2:17:08] hintay [2:17:08] if [2:17:08] they [2:17:09] want [2:17:09] to [2:17:09] go [2:17:09] to [2:17:10] court [2:17:10] let [2:17:10] them [2:17:10] go [2:17:10] to [2:17:10] court [2:17:11] but [2:17:11] let's [2:17:11] exercise [2:17:12] the [2:17:12] process [2:17:12] of [2:17:13] excluding [2:17:13] them [2:17:13] because [2:17:14] they [2:17:14] are [2:17:14] undesirable [2:17:15] and [2:17:15] they [2:17:15] made [2:17:16] an [2:17:16] illegal [2:17:16] action [2:17:17] based [2:17:17] on [2:17:18] the [2:17:18] findings [2:17:18] of [2:17:18] NBI [2:17:19] and [2:17:19] there [2:17:19] is [2:17:19] documentary [2:17:20] evidence [2:17:20] which [2:17:21] can [2:17:21] be [2:17:21] presented [2:17:22] to [2:17:22] the [2:17:22] exclusion [2:17:22] proceedings [2:17:23] yun [2:17:24] lang [2:17:24] po [2:17:24] yung [2:17:24] sakit [2:17:24] And [2:17:25] I [2:17:25] think [2:17:25] isang [2:17:27] nag-emerge [2:17:27] dito [2:17:28] sa [2:17:28] hearing [2:17:28] natin [2:17:29] even [2:17:29] prior [2:17:29] any [2:17:30] technical [2:17:30] working [2:17:31] group [2:17:31] is [2:17:32] very [2:17:32] healthy [2:17:32] I [2:17:34] always [2:17:35] appreciate [2:17:36] it [2:17:36] kapag [2:17:36] the [2:17:37] executive [2:17:37] is [2:17:38] assertive [2:17:38] or [2:17:39] trying [2:17:39] to [2:17:39] push [2:17:39] the [2:17:41] envelope [2:17:41] within [2:17:42] the [2:17:43] legal [2:17:44] parameters [2:17:45] Lagi [2:17:46] ko [2:17:46] rin [2:17:46] appreciate [2:17:46] kapag [2:17:47] through [2:17:47] OSG [2:17:48] today [2:17:48] yung [2:17:49] paalala [2:17:49] from [2:17:49] the [2:17:50] judicial [2:17:50] perspective [2:17:52] naman [2:17:52] presumption [2:17:54] of [2:17:54] regularity [2:17:54] everything [2:17:55] about [2:17:55] due [2:17:56] process [2:17:57] and [2:17:57] sabi [2:17:58] nyo [2:17:58] nga [2:17:58] director [2:17:59] the [2:17:59] executive [2:18:00] is [2:18:00] always [2:18:00] open [2:18:00] na [2:18:01] makalang [2:18:02] attention [2:18:02] ng [2:18:02] judisyari [2:18:03] pero [2:18:04] maganda [2:18:05] na [2:18:05] kung [2:18:05] ano [2:18:05] yung [2:18:05] instrumento [2:18:06] na [2:18:06] nasa [2:18:06] sa [2:18:07] kamay [2:18:07] na [2:18:07] ninyo [2:18:08] magamit [2:18:09] nyo [2:18:09] within [2:18:10] the [2:18:11] proper [2:18:11] process [2:18:12] the [2:18:12] proper [2:18:13] timetable [2:18:14] and [2:18:14] always [2:18:15] humbly [2:18:16] open [2:18:16] to [2:18:17] judicial [2:18:18] whatever [2:18:20] observations [2:18:20] or [2:18:21] or [2:18:21] corrections [2:18:22] yes [2:18:23] director [2:18:23] Matiba [2:18:23] you [2:18:25] might [2:18:25] be [2:18:25] creating [2:18:26] already [2:18:26] a [2:18:26] precedent [2:18:27] meron [2:18:27] ng [2:18:27] court [2:18:28] proceeding [2:18:28] na [2:18:28] nangyari [2:18:29] na yan [2:18:30] eto [2:18:31] na [2:18:31] bakit [2:18:33] hindi [2:18:33] natin [2:18:33] subukan [2:18:33] gawin [2:18:34] para [2:18:35] pwede [2:18:35] na [2:18:36] sabihin [2:18:36] ng [2:18:36] court [2:18:36] tama [2:18:37] yan [2:18:38] meron [2:18:39] na [2:18:39] may [2:18:39] nangyari [2:18:39] ng [2:18:39] ganyan [2:18:40] the [2:18:42] court [2:18:42] say [2:18:42] na [2:18:42] mali [2:18:43] sunod [2:18:43] tayo [2:18:44] na [2:18:44] ganito [2:18:44] then [2:18:44] pasok [2:18:45] yung [2:18:45] batas [2:18:46] na [2:18:46] ginagawa [2:18:46] natin [2:18:46] but [2:18:47] in [2:18:47] the [2:18:47] meantime [2:18:47] I [2:18:48] think [2:18:49] all [2:18:49] in [2:18:49] this [2:18:49] room [2:18:50] we [2:18:50] all [2:18:50] agree [2:18:50] na [2:18:51] ito [2:18:51] yung [2:18:51] problema [2:18:52] and [2:18:52] we [2:18:52] try [2:18:52] to [2:18:53] address [2:18:53] that [2:18:53] biggest [2:18:53] elephant [2:18:54] in [2:18:54] the [2:18:54] room [2:18:54] na [2:18:54] kailangan [2:18:55] may [2:18:55] action [2:18:56] tayo [2:18:56] rito [2:18:56] and [2:18:57] I [2:18:58] have [2:18:58] to [2:18:58] say [2:18:59] my [2:19:00] point [2:19:00] is [2:19:00] from [2:19:01] the [2:19:01] point [2:19:01] of [2:19:01] law [2:19:01] enforcement [2:19:02] na [2:19:03] continuing [2:19:04] yung [2:19:04] offense [2:19:04] na [2:19:05] nangyayari [2:19:05] and [2:19:08] I [2:19:08] also [2:19:08] want [2:19:08] to [2:19:08] create [2:19:09] a [2:19:09] chilling [2:19:09] effect [2:19:09] to [2:19:10] those [2:19:10] individuals [2:19:11] na [2:19:11] gusto [2:19:11] nyo [2:19:11] subukan [2:19:11] maganda [2:19:15] talaga [2:19:15] kung [2:19:16] makaambag [2:19:17] yung [2:19:17] ating [2:19:18] hearings [2:19:19] sa [2:19:21] isang [2:19:22] positive [2:19:23] na [2:19:24] precedent [2:19:24] kahit [2:19:25] naman yung [2:19:25] legislation [2:19:25] it's [2:19:26] supposed to [2:19:26] be [2:19:26] progressive [2:19:27] diba [2:19:27] so I [2:19:28] also [2:19:29] appreciate [2:19:29] yung [2:19:29] innovation [2:19:31] on the [2:19:31] part of [2:19:32] the [2:19:32] other [2:19:32] branches [2:19:33] of [2:19:33] government [2:19:33] para [2:19:34] ma-improve [2:19:35] natin [2:19:35] yung [2:19:35] governance [2:19:35] ma-improve [2:19:36] yung [2:19:36] law [2:19:37] enforcement [2:19:38] and [2:19:38] a [2:19:39] chilling [2:19:39] effect [2:19:39] is [2:19:40] always [2:19:40] welcome [2:19:41] sa [2:19:41] wrongdoing [2:19:42] kasi [2:19:43] a [2:19:43] deterrent [2:19:44] is [2:19:44] always [2:19:44] prevention [2:19:45] is [2:19:45] always [2:19:45] better [2:19:46] than [2:19:46] cure [2:19:47] and [2:19:47] it's [2:19:47] less [2:19:48] wasteful [2:19:48] of [2:19:48] resources [2:19:49] and [2:19:49] time [2:19:49] and [2:19:50] effort [2:19:50] Yes [2:19:51] Attorney [2:19:51] Batali [2:19:52] Yes [2:19:52] Your [2:19:52] Honor [2:19:53] Just to [2:19:54] set [2:19:54] the [2:19:55] expectation [2:19:55] of the [2:19:56] list [2:19:56] that we [2:19:57] will [2:19:57] be [2:19:57] providing [2:19:58] the [2:19:59] investigation [2:19:59] of [2:20:00] the [2:20:00] PSA [2:20:01] is [2:20:01] on [2:20:02] the [2:20:02] civil [2:20:02] registry [2:20:03] record [2:20:03] so [2:20:04] ang [2:20:04] ibig [2:20:05] sabihin [2:20:05] ito [2:20:05] ang [2:20:05] information [2:20:06] na [2:20:07] sa [2:20:07] amin [2:20:07] is [2:20:07] yung [2:20:08] Filipino [2:20:08] names [2:20:09] na [2:20:09] yung [2:20:09] Filipino [2:20:09] identity [2:20:10] na [2:20:10] we [2:20:11] do [2:20:11] not [2:20:11] know [2:20:12] kung [2:20:12] itong [2:20:13] mga [2:20:13] ito [2:20:13] would [2:20:13] be [2:20:13] linked [2:20:17] to [2:20:17] a [2:20:17] certain [2:20:17] foreign [2:20:18] national [2:20:19] wala [2:20:19] po [2:20:19] kaming [2:20:19] gano'n [2:20:20] information [2:20:20] so [2:20:21] baka [2:20:21] doon [2:20:22] sa [2:20:23] maibibigay [2:20:25] namin [2:20:25] baka [2:20:26] kailangan [2:20:27] pa [2:20:27] ng [2:20:27] further [2:20:27] investigation [2:20:28] to [2:20:28] link [2:20:29] it [2:20:29] to [2:20:29] a [2:20:30] foreign [2:20:30] name [2:20:32] kasi [2:20:33] as [2:20:33] far [2:20:34] as [2:20:34] our [2:20:34] interest [2:20:36] or [2:20:36] the [2:20:36] mandates [2:20:37] of the [2:20:37] PSA [2:20:38] is [2:20:38] concerned [2:20:38] ang [2:20:39] tinitingnan [2:20:40] namin [2:20:40] is yung [2:20:40] regularity [2:20:42] nung [2:20:42] pagrehistro [2:20:43] doon sa [2:20:44] local [2:20:45] civil [2:20:45] registrar [2:20:46] and that's [2:20:46] the only [2:20:46] basis [2:20:47] that we [2:20:47] have [2:20:48] and the [2:20:48] information [2:20:48] that we [2:20:49] have [2:20:49] that we [2:20:50] can share [2:20:50] to our [2:20:51] counterparts [2:20:52] that's [2:20:53] your [2:20:53] honor [2:20:53] it's your [2:20:55] honor [2:20:56] and yun [2:20:56] na nga yung [2:20:57] as they [2:20:58] cross-check [2:20:59] with their [2:20:59] data [2:21:01] I'm sure [2:21:01] magchat-chatter [2:21:02] na naman [2:21:02] sa dark [2:21:02] web [2:21:03] na yan [2:21:03] kasi [2:21:04] ina-action [2:21:04] nga yung [2:21:05] warning [2:21:06] nila [2:21:06] sa mga [2:21:06] nationals [2:21:08] na [2:21:08] maaring [2:21:09] sila ay [2:21:09] kasama [2:21:10] sa mga [2:21:10] lumalabag [2:21:11] nito [2:21:11] So if [2:21:13] I could [2:21:14] move on [2:21:15] second to [2:21:16] the last [2:21:17] sa DFA [2:21:19] Yes ma'am [2:21:23] Asek [2:21:24] Ann [2:21:25] Ma'am [2:21:26] sa pagkaalam po [2:21:28] ng department [2:21:28] ano pong [2:21:29] documents [2:21:29] ang [2:21:30] ginamit [2:21:32] ni Joseph C [2:21:32] para ma-obtain [2:21:34] yung kaniyang [2:21:34] Philippine [2:21:35] passport [2:21:35] Your Honor [2:21:38] So the [2:21:39] DFA [2:21:40] is able [2:21:41] to confirm [2:21:42] that based [2:21:42] on the [2:21:43] records [2:21:43] in the [2:21:44] e-passport [2:21:45] database [2:21:45] Joseph [2:21:48] C [2:21:48] was issued [2:21:49] five [2:21:50] regular [2:21:51] Philippine [2:21:51] passports [2:21:52] Our [2:21:53] records [2:21:53] go back [2:21:54] to [2:21:55] the available [2:21:56] records [2:21:57] go back [2:21:58] to [2:21:58] December [2:21:59] 4 [2:22:00] 2010 [2:22:02] and then [2:22:03] it was [2:22:04] renewed [2:22:05] 2014 [2:22:06] and then [2:22:09] 2017 [2:22:10] and then [2:22:11] his [2:22:11] existing [2:22:12] passport [2:22:13] August [2:22:14] 2021 [2:22:15] 2021 [2:22:15] now [2:22:16] in his [2:22:18] renewal [2:22:20] because this [2:22:21] is now a [2:22:22] series of [2:22:22] renewals [2:22:24] there are no [2:22:25] available records [2:22:26] from the very [2:22:28] first [2:22:28] passport [2:22:29] that was [2:22:30] issued [2:22:30] especially [2:22:31] because [2:22:32] if it is [2:22:33] not e-passport [2:22:35] we no longer [2:22:36] it's [2:22:37] the records [2:22:37] are not [2:22:38] digitized [2:22:39] yung lumapa [2:22:40] system [2:22:41] so we only [2:22:42] have the [2:22:43] records for [2:22:45] the e-passport [2:22:46] which started [2:22:47] 2018 [2:22:48] so for the [2:22:50] renewal of [2:22:51] his passport [2:22:53] in March [2:22:54] 2017 [2:22:55] he presented [2:22:57] he presented [2:22:57] his [2:22:57] old [2:22:58] passport [2:22:59] he presented [2:23:01] an APEC [2:23:02] business travel [2:23:03] card [2:23:03] which means [2:23:04] he was able [2:23:05] to obtain [2:23:05] an ABTC [2:23:06] a UMID [2:23:07] ID [2:23:08] and [2:23:09] endorsement [2:23:11] letter [2:23:11] from the [2:23:12] Philippine [2:23:12] Chamber of [2:23:13] Commerce [2:23:13] and Industry [2:23:14] and then [2:23:15] because [2:23:16] his current [2:23:17] passport [2:23:17] is a [2:23:19] renewal [2:23:19] he was [2:23:21] only required [2:23:21] to present [2:23:22] his old [2:23:23] passport [2:23:24] and the [2:23:24] application [2:23:25] form [2:23:26] yung [2:23:29] late [2:23:29] registration [2:23:30] po niya [2:23:31] was it [2:23:31] specifically [2:23:32] flagged [2:23:32] o [2:23:33] sinabject [2:23:33] po ba [2:23:34] yun [2:23:34] sa [2:23:34] additional [2:23:36] verification [2:23:36] yes [2:23:37] only [2:23:39] when [2:23:39] the [2:23:40] case [2:23:42] his [2:23:43] case [2:23:43] was [2:23:44] already [2:23:45] reported [2:23:45] then [2:23:47] there [2:23:48] was [2:23:48] a [2:23:49] verification [2:23:49] of [2:23:50] his [2:23:50] submitted [2:23:52] COLB [2:23:54] and [2:23:54] we [2:23:55] wrote [2:23:55] to [2:23:55] the [2:23:56] PSA [2:23:57] starting [2:23:58] I think [2:23:59] his [2:23:59] the [2:23:59] first [2:24:00] reports [2:24:01] regarding [2:24:01] surrounding [2:24:02] his [2:24:03] case [2:24:03] was [2:24:03] in [2:24:04] October [2:24:04] 2024 [2:24:05] and [2:24:06] we [2:24:06] verified [2:24:07] if [2:24:08] the [2:24:09] COLB [2:24:12] that [2:24:12] he [2:24:12] submitted [2:24:13] is [2:24:14] authentic [2:24:14] and [2:24:15] it's [2:24:15] authentic [2:24:16] I [2:24:17] mean [2:24:17] the [2:24:18] you know [2:24:18] the [2:24:19] security [2:24:19] paper [2:24:20] the [2:24:20] it's [2:24:21] it's [2:24:21] authentic [2:24:22] yes [2:24:23] additionally [2:24:26] according [2:24:28] to our [2:24:28] sources [2:24:29] a [2:24:30] philippine [2:24:30] passport [2:24:31] was [2:24:31] issued [2:24:31] to [2:24:31] a [2:24:32] joseph [2:24:32] quesce [2:24:33] on [2:24:34] feb [2:24:34] 30 [2:24:35] 1998 [2:24:36] hindi [2:24:37] po ba [2:24:37] natin [2:24:37] ito [2:24:38] matrace [2:24:39] kasi [2:24:39] 1998 [2:24:41] ibig [2:24:41] pong [2:24:42] sabihin [2:24:42] may [2:24:43] philippine [2:24:44] passport [2:24:44] siya [2:24:45] before [2:24:46] his [2:24:46] delayed [2:24:47] registration [2:24:47] in [2:24:48] 2007 [2:24:48] so [2:24:49] hindi [2:24:49] nagsisquare [2:24:49] ulit [2:24:50] there [2:24:51] are [2:24:51] two [2:24:52] passport [2:24:53] numbers [2:24:54] old [2:24:54] passport [2:24:54] numbers [2:24:55] these [2:24:55] are [2:24:55] the [2:24:56] old [2:24:57] machine [2:24:58] readable [2:24:59] passport [2:25:00] not yet [2:25:01] an [2:25:01] e-passport [2:25:02] there [2:25:03] were [2:25:03] two [2:25:03] passport [2:25:04] numbers [2:25:04] that [2:25:05] were [2:25:05] provided [2:25:06] to [2:25:06] us [2:25:06] by [2:25:07] esap [2:25:08] for [2:25:08] verification [2:25:09] but [2:25:10] we [2:25:10] are [2:25:11] unable [2:25:11] to [2:25:12] verify [2:25:13] this [2:25:13] anymore [2:25:14] because [2:25:14] there [2:25:14] are [2:25:15] no [2:25:15] available [2:25:16] records [2:25:17] anymore [2:25:17] with [2:25:18] the [2:25:18] dfa [2:25:18] so [2:25:24] i [2:25:24] think [2:25:24] baka [2:25:24] yung [2:25:24] isa [2:25:25] nito [2:25:25] is [2:25:25] the [2:25:26] one [2:25:26] you [2:25:26] mentioned [2:25:26] issued [2:25:27] in [2:25:27] 1998 [2:25:28] possibly [2:25:31] issued [2:25:31] 13 [2:25:32] feb [2:25:32] 1998 [2:25:34] so [2:25:36] nagkaroon [2:25:36] siya [2:25:36] ng [2:25:37] philippine [2:25:37] passport [2:25:38] the [2:25:38] year [2:25:39] before [2:25:39] na [2:25:40] oh [2:25:41] sorry [2:25:42] long [2:25:44] before [2:25:45] his [2:25:45] delayed [2:25:46] registration [2:25:47] as [2:25:47] a [2:25:47] filipino [2:25:48] can [2:25:48] be [2:25:49] possibly [2:25:50] issued [2:25:51] aside [2:25:51] from [2:25:52] the [2:25:52] ones [2:25:52] i [2:25:52] mentioned [2:25:53] my [2:25:53] record [2:25:54] start [2:25:54] in [2:25:55] december [2:25:55] 2010 [2:25:56] he [2:25:57] may [2:25:57] have [2:25:58] been [2:25:58] issued [2:25:58] three [2:25:59] earlier [2:26:00] three [2:26:01] there [2:26:02] are [2:26:02] three [2:26:03] passport [2:26:03] numbers [2:26:04] given [2:26:04] to [2:26:04] us [2:26:05] but [2:26:05] no [2:26:06] available [2:26:07] records [2:26:07] can be [2:26:08] retrieved [2:26:08] anymore [2:26:08] with [2:26:09] the [2:26:09] dfa [2:26:09] because [2:26:13] this [2:26:14] was [2:26:14] the [2:26:14] time [2:26:14] before [2:26:15] the [2:26:15] e-passport [2:26:16] ngayon [2:26:18] na e-passport [2:26:19] system [2:26:19] na tayo [2:26:19] digitized [2:26:20] na [2:26:20] it [2:26:21] should [2:26:21] be [2:26:21] easily [2:26:22] more [2:26:23] easily [2:26:24] and [2:26:24] immediately [2:26:24] traceable [2:26:26] briefly [2:26:28] before [2:26:29] i [2:26:29] return [2:26:29] to you [2:26:29] pwede [2:26:30] pong [2:26:30] matanong [2:26:30] kay [2:26:31] sir [2:26:32] attorney [2:26:32] naknak [2:26:33] may [2:26:34] travel [2:26:35] records [2:26:36] po ba [2:26:37] sa [2:26:37] BI [2:26:38] kung [2:26:38] ginamit [2:26:39] ni [2:26:39] Joseph C [2:26:40] ang isang [2:26:41] February [2:26:42] 13 [2:26:42] 1998 [2:26:43] passport [2:26:43] if ever [2:26:44] nagamit [2:26:45] niya [2:26:45] yung [2:26:45] 1998 [2:26:46] passport [2:26:46] na yun [2:26:47] let me [2:26:57] give [2:26:58] a [2:26:58] check [2:26:59] on [2:26:59] the [2:26:59] records [2:26:59] yes [2:27:00] please [2:27:00] sir [2:27:00] yun [2:27:12] na nga [2:27:12] po sir [2:27:12] attorney [2:27:12] naknak [2:27:13] while [2:27:13] you're [2:27:13] checking [2:27:14] the [2:27:14] records [2:27:14] ito [2:27:15] po [2:27:15] yung [2:27:15] somebody [2:27:17] used [2:27:17] that [2:27:17] term [2:27:18] yung [2:27:19] isa [2:27:19] pang [2:27:19] kababalaghan [2:27:20] asek [2:27:21] kasi [2:27:22] mangangahulugan [2:27:23] na [2:27:24] may [2:27:25] mayroong [2:27:26] may [2:27:26] passport [2:27:27] bago [2:27:28] na [2:27:28] register [2:27:28] yung [2:27:28] birth [2:27:29] niya [2:27:30] may [2:27:30] himala [2:27:31] parang [2:27:34] pano [2:27:34] nang [2:27:34] balibaliktad [2:27:35] po [2:27:35] yung [2:27:36] time [2:27:36] frames [2:27:36] my [2:27:38] god [2:27:38] yes [2:27:39] attorney [2:27:40] naknak [2:27:40] back [2:27:40] to [2:27:40] you [2:27:41] ma'am [2:27:41] for [2:27:42] the [2:27:42] philippine [2:27:42] passports [2:27:43] with [2:27:44] various [2:27:44] numbers [2:27:45] passport [2:27:46] numbers [2:27:46] he [2:27:47] started [2:27:48] using [2:27:48] it [2:27:49] since [2:27:49] 1998 [2:27:53] up [2:27:55] to [2:27:55] 2025 [2:27:57] so [2:27:58] may [2:27:58] travel [2:27:58] record [2:27:59] po [2:27:59] siya [2:27:59] using [2:27:59] the [2:27:59] february [2:28:00] 1998 [2:28:00] passport [2:28:01] i [2:28:03] suppose [2:28:03] ma'am [2:28:03] because [2:28:03] this [2:28:04] is [2:28:04] P815391 [2:28:08] passport [2:28:09] this [2:28:09] is a [2:28:10] philippine [2:28:10] issued [2:28:10] passport [2:28:11] yes [2:28:11] sir [2:28:12] i'll [2:28:12] double check [2:28:12] sir [2:28:13] kung yun [2:28:13] nga [2:28:13] yung [2:28:13] passport [2:28:14] number [2:28:14] pero [2:28:14] if [2:28:15] it's [2:28:15] the [2:28:15] same [2:28:15] february [2:28:16] 1998 [2:28:17] passport [2:28:17] ibig sabihin [2:28:18] may gumamit [2:28:19] ng [2:28:19] philippine [2:28:20] passport [2:28:21] lumakbay [2:28:22] bilang [2:28:22] isang [2:28:22] pilipino [2:28:23] bago pa [2:28:24] niya [2:28:24] nakuha [2:28:25] yung [2:28:25] late [2:28:25] registration [2:28:26] niya [2:28:26] birth [2:28:27] certificate [2:28:27] as a [2:28:27] filipino [2:28:28] talagang [2:28:28] bali [2:28:29] baliktad [2:28:30] po [2:28:30] nasa [2:28:31] time [2:28:31] warp [2:28:31] si [2:28:31] joseph [2:28:32] c [2:28:32] sa [2:28:33] ganitong [2:28:33] sistema [2:28:34] salamat [2:28:35] po [2:28:35] attorney [2:28:36] nak [2:28:36] balik [2:28:37] po [2:28:37] kay [2:28:37] asik [2:28:38] ma'am [2:28:39] ang dfa [2:28:39] po ba [2:28:40] nagdi [2:28:40] distinguish [2:28:41] between [2:28:42] birth [2:28:42] certificate [2:28:43] registered [2:28:44] shortly [2:28:45] after [2:28:45] birth [2:28:46] which [2:28:46] is [2:28:46] normal [2:28:47] for [2:28:47] those [2:28:47] na may [2:28:48] easy [2:28:48] access [2:28:48] makapagrehistro [2:28:49] ng [2:28:49] birth [2:28:50] certificate [2:28:50] and [2:28:51] one [2:28:51] registered [2:28:52] four [2:28:52] decades [2:28:53] later [2:28:53] may [2:28:54] pagtatangi [2:28:54] ba [2:28:55] ang [2:28:55] department [2:28:55] sa [2:28:56] mga [2:28:56] ganon [2:28:56] first [2:28:58] of [2:28:58] all [2:28:58] for [2:28:59] late [2:28:59] registration [2:29:00] if [2:29:01] the [2:29:02] we [2:29:03] have [2:29:03] certain [2:29:03] guidelines [2:29:04] if [2:29:04] the [2:29:05] processors [2:29:05] encounter [2:29:06] applications [2:29:07] that are [2:29:08] late [2:29:08] registered [2:29:09] it [2:29:10] immediately [2:29:11] kicks [2:29:11] in [2:29:12] more [2:29:13] rigorous [2:29:14] examination [2:29:16] of [2:29:17] the [2:29:17] requirements [2:29:18] and [2:29:19] on a [2:29:20] case [2:29:20] to [2:29:20] case [2:29:20] basis [2:29:21] the [2:29:22] processor [2:29:22] actually [2:29:23] has [2:29:23] discretion [2:29:24] to [2:29:25] require [2:29:25] the [2:29:27] applicant [2:29:28] to [2:29:28] produce [2:29:29] additional [2:29:30] documents [2:29:30] aside [2:29:31] from [2:29:31] the [2:29:31] published [2:29:32] daily [2:29:33] requirements [2:29:34] also [2:29:35] the [2:29:36] case [2:29:36] can [2:29:37] be [2:29:37] referred [2:29:37] to [2:29:38] for [2:29:38] further [2:29:38] interview [2:29:39] as well [2:29:41] as [2:29:41] evaluation [2:29:42] by a [2:29:43] separate [2:29:43] unit [2:29:44] so it's [2:29:45] not [2:29:45] a regular [2:29:46] process [2:29:46] flow [2:29:47] in the [2:29:48] passport [2:29:48] processing [2:29:49] but they [2:29:51] may be [2:29:51] required [2:29:52] additional [2:29:52] requirements [2:29:53] interview [2:29:54] and other [2:29:55] processes [2:29:56] of [2:29:57] evaluation [2:29:57] before we [2:29:58] determine [2:29:59] that there [2:30:00] is merit [2:30:00] to issue [2:30:01] a passport [2:30:02] yes [2:30:02] so maybe [2:30:04] ang naalala [2:30:05] ko po dun [2:30:06] sa [2:30:06] sinabi nyo [2:30:07] possibly [2:30:07] additional [2:30:08] requirements [2:30:08] something [2:30:09] I failed [2:30:09] to confirm [2:30:10] earlier [2:30:10] yung [2:30:11] pangalawang [2:30:11] suggestion [2:30:12] ng DI [2:30:13] ni [2:30:13] attorney [2:30:13] naknak [2:30:14] na [2:30:14] PSA [2:30:16] also [2:30:16] include [2:30:17] as a [2:30:17] requirement [2:30:18] yung [2:30:18] clearance [2:30:19] from [2:30:19] DI [2:30:20] so [2:30:20] similar [2:30:21] ang [2:30:22] tinatract [2:30:22] natin [2:30:23] dito [2:30:23] sa [2:30:23] DFA [2:30:24] and [2:30:25] I'm glad [2:30:26] ma'am [2:30:26] kung may [2:30:26] additional [2:30:27] requirements [2:30:28] maaring [2:30:28] may [2:30:29] interview [2:30:32] additional [2:30:33] process [2:30:36] kasi nga [2:30:39] pareho [2:30:39] lang yung [2:30:40] treatment [2:30:40] like [2:30:41] fully [2:30:41] it is [2:30:41] not [2:30:42] vulnerability [2:30:43] talaga [2:30:45] po yun [2:30:46] kasi [2:30:46] yung [2:30:47] extremely [2:30:47] late [2:30:48] registration [2:30:48] talagang [2:30:49] kahit [2:30:49] sa [2:30:49] isang [2:30:50] karaniwang [2:30:51] mamamayan [2:30:52] hindi pa [2:30:52] official [2:30:53] sa [2:30:53] DFA [2:30:54] or [2:30:54] assessor [2:30:55] sa [2:30:55] DFA [2:30:56] mag [2:30:57] trigger [2:30:57] talaga [2:30:57] ng mga [2:30:58] dagdag [2:30:58] na [2:30:59] tanong [2:30:59] bago [2:31:00] mag [2:31:00] issue [2:31:00] ng [2:31:00] isa [2:31:01] sa [2:31:01] pinakamalakas [2:31:03] na [2:31:03] katibayan [2:31:03] ng [2:31:03] Filipino [2:31:04] citizenship [2:31:04] which [2:31:05] is a [2:31:05] Philippine [2:31:05] passport [2:31:06] at [2:31:07] this [2:31:07] point [2:31:07] I've been [2:31:09] asking [2:31:10] the [2:31:10] different [2:31:10] agencies [2:31:11] ano [2:31:11] na [2:31:11] ang [2:31:11] ginagawa [2:31:12] nila [2:31:12] ano [2:31:13] pa [2:31:13] yung [2:31:13] pwede [2:31:13] gawin [2:31:14] pwede [2:31:15] po [2:31:15] kaya [2:31:15] ang [2:31:15] department [2:31:16] mag [2:31:16] commit [2:31:17] sa [2:31:19] Justice [2:31:21] and [2:31:22] Human [2:31:23] Rights [2:31:25] through [2:31:25] our [2:31:25] subcommittee [2:31:26] na [2:31:27] mag-a-undertake [2:31:27] po kayo [2:31:28] ng [2:31:28] investigation [2:31:29] dito [2:31:29] sa [2:31:29] February [2:31:31] 13 [2:31:31] passport [2:31:32] na [2:31:33] nagamit [2:31:34] ni [2:31:34] Joseph [2:31:34] C. [2:31:35] to [2:31:35] travel [2:31:36] for [2:31:36] travel [2:31:36] records [2:31:37] of [2:31:37] BI [2:31:37] a [2:31:41] decade [2:31:41] before [2:31:43] he [2:31:44] secured [2:31:44] his [2:31:45] late [2:31:45] registration [2:31:46] of [2:31:46] birth [2:31:46] certificate [2:31:47] kasi [2:31:50] baka [2:31:50] mamaya [2:31:50] tulad [2:31:51] ng [2:31:51] mga [2:31:51] late [2:31:52] registered [2:31:52] birth [2:31:53] certificates [2:31:53] na [2:31:53] nakukuha [2:31:54] kahit [2:31:55] walang [2:31:55] binabayarang [2:31:56] basic [2:31:56] fees [2:31:57] baka [2:31:58] may [2:31:58] binayaran [2:31:58] din [2:31:59] sa [2:31:59] DFA [2:31:59] noon [2:31:59] para [2:32:00] maka-issue [2:32:01] ng [2:32:01] ganyang [2:32:02] passport [2:32:02] sa [2:32:03] wala [2:32:03] pang [2:32:03] Philippine [2:32:04] birth [2:32:04] certificate [2:32:05] and [2:32:05] then [2:32:05] nagamit [2:32:06] pa [2:32:06] para [2:32:06] bumiyahe [2:32:07] bilang [2:32:07] isang [2:32:07] Pinoy [2:32:08] pwede [2:32:08] po [2:32:09] bang [2:32:09] mag-commit [2:32:09] ang [2:32:10] DFA [2:32:10] to [2:32:11] investigate [2:32:11] this [2:32:11] February [2:32:12] 1998 [2:32:13] passport [2:32:14] Yes [2:32:14] Your Honor [2:32:15] Thank [2:32:16] you [2:32:16] ma'am [2:32:16] and [2:32:16] we [2:32:16] will [2:32:17] anticipate [2:32:19] the [2:32:19] report [2:32:21] of that [2:32:21] investigation [2:32:22] bago [2:32:22] po [2:32:22] makumpleto [2:32:23] ang [2:32:23] committee [2:32:24] report [2:32:24] usually [2:32:25] po [2:32:25] sa [2:32:25] ganito [2:32:25] mga [2:32:26] investigasyon [2:32:26] how [2:32:26] long [2:32:27] would [2:32:27] be [2:32:28] needed [2:32:28] by [2:32:28] the [2:32:29] department [2:32:29] Your [2:32:31] Honor [2:32:31] I [2:32:31] would [2:32:31] just [2:32:32] like [2:32:32] to [2:32:32] say [2:32:33] recognize [2:32:34] from [2:32:34] the [2:32:34] outset [2:32:35] that [2:32:35] since [2:32:35] there [2:32:36] are [2:32:36] no [2:32:36] existing [2:32:37] records [2:32:37] we [2:32:38] really [2:32:38] have [2:32:38] to [2:32:39] try [2:32:39] to [2:32:40] look [2:32:42] back [2:32:42] into [2:32:42] our [2:32:42] archives [2:32:43] kung [2:32:44] anuman [2:32:45] yung [2:32:45] available [2:32:46] that [2:32:47] we [2:32:47] can [2:32:47] retrieve [2:32:48] also [2:32:49] noting [2:32:50] Your [2:32:50] Honor [2:32:50] that [2:32:50] we [2:32:51] some [2:32:52] logistics [2:32:53] we [2:32:53] recently [2:32:54] transferred [2:32:55] from [2:32:57] our [2:32:57] 2330 [2:32:58] main [2:32:59] building [2:32:59] to [2:33:00] a [2:33:01] temporary [2:33:01] location [2:33:02] so [2:33:03] medyo [2:33:03] na [2:33:04] ano [2:33:05] yung [2:33:05] aming [2:33:05] mga [2:33:06] records [2:33:07] na [2:33:08] move [2:33:09] yung [2:33:09] aming [2:33:09] passport [2:33:10] records [2:33:10] but [2:33:11] we [2:33:11] will [2:33:11] try [2:33:11] to [2:33:12] dig [2:33:13] up [2:33:13] what [2:33:13] we [2:33:14] can [2:33:14] regarding [2:33:14] the [2:33:15] February [2:33:15] 1998 [2:33:16] passport [2:33:17] as [2:33:18] I [2:33:18] mentioned [2:33:18] earlier [2:33:19] I [2:33:20] think [2:33:20] this [2:33:20] is [2:33:20] actually [2:33:21] one [2:33:21] of [2:33:21] the [2:33:22] passport [2:33:23] numbers [2:33:23] that [2:33:24] was [2:33:24] given [2:33:24] to [2:33:24] us [2:33:25] by [2:33:25] ISAF [2:33:25] we [2:33:26] learned [2:33:26] about [2:33:26] it [2:33:27] from [2:33:27] ISAF [2:33:28] and [2:33:29] we [2:33:29] tried [2:33:30] to [2:33:31] look [2:33:32] at [2:33:32] our [2:33:32] records [2:33:33] but [2:33:33] we [2:33:33] were [2:33:33] not [2:33:33] able [2:33:34] to [2:33:34] come [2:33:34] up [2:33:34] with [2:33:35] anything [2:33:35] but [2:33:36] we [2:33:36] will [2:33:37] try [2:33:37] we [2:33:38] will [2:33:38] try [2:33:38] take [2:33:40] to [2:33:41] take [2:33:42] up [2:33:42] to [2:33:43] travel [2:33:44] records [2:33:44] of [2:33:45] BI [2:33:45] because [2:33:46] apparently [2:33:47] Joseph [2:33:47] C [2:33:48] passport [2:33:49] for [2:33:50] to [2:33:50] lum [2:33:51] by [2:33:51] and [2:33:52] I'm [2:33:52] sure [2:33:52] your [2:33:52] archives [2:33:53] will [2:33:53] tell [2:33:54] who [2:33:54] were [2:33:54] the [2:33:54] responsible [2:33:55] units [2:33:56] or [2:33:56] persons [2:33:56] at [2:33:56] that [2:33:57] time [2:33:57] of [2:33:58] the [2:33:58] issuance [2:33:58] of [2:33:58] such [2:33:59] passport [2:33:59] because [2:34:09] we've [2:34:09] been [2:34:09] talking [2:34:10] about [2:34:10] the [2:34:10] interagency [2:34:11] mechanisms [2:34:12] where [2:34:13] we [2:34:13] can [2:34:14] follow [2:34:14] through [2:34:14] with [2:34:14] our [2:34:15] coordination [2:34:15] it [2:34:17] was [2:34:17] mentioned [2:34:17] by [2:34:17] attorney [2:34:18] from [2:34:20] PSA [2:34:21] the [2:34:22] department [2:34:23] as [2:34:23] chair [2:34:24] of [2:34:25] the [2:34:25] interagency [2:34:26] committee [2:34:27] in [2:34:27] passport [2:34:27] irregularities [2:34:28] is [2:34:29] convening [2:34:30] a [2:34:30] meeting [2:34:30] this [2:34:31] coming [2:34:31] November [2:34:32] 12 [2:34:32] and [2:34:33] this [2:34:34] is [2:34:34] one [2:34:34] of [2:34:34] our [2:34:34] agenda [2:34:35] the [2:34:36] issuance [2:34:37] of [2:34:38] the [2:34:38] passports [2:34:39] to [2:34:39] suspected [2:34:40] foreign [2:34:40] nationals [2:34:41] holding [2:34:42] which [2:34:43] were later [2:34:43] found out [2:34:44] to be [2:34:44] fraudulent [2:34:45] documents [2:34:46] so this [2:34:46] is in [2:34:47] one [2:34:47] of our [2:34:47] agenda [2:34:48] and I [2:34:48] think [2:34:48] most [2:34:51] of the [2:34:51] agencies [2:34:52] present [2:34:52] here [2:34:53] are part [2:34:53] of that [2:34:54] interagency [2:34:55] committee [2:34:55] that's [2:34:57] good to [2:34:57] know [2:34:57] ASSEC [2:34:58] and [2:34:59] hopefully [2:34:59] yung [2:35:00] ilang [2:35:00] mga [2:35:01] findings [2:35:01] na [2:35:02] lumilitaw [2:35:03] dito [2:35:03] yung [2:35:03] ilang [2:35:03] mga [2:35:03] rekomendasyon [2:35:04] na [2:35:05] pinapanukala [2:35:06] dito [2:35:06] if you [2:35:08] would [2:35:08] consider [2:35:09] pwede [2:35:10] nyong [2:35:10] gamitin [2:35:11] para [2:35:12] higit [2:35:13] nakapakipakinabang [2:35:14] yung hearing [2:35:14] natin [2:35:15] dun po [2:35:15] sa [2:35:15] November [2:35:15] 12 [2:35:16] meeting [2:35:17] po [2:35:17] ng [2:35:17] interagency [2:35:18] group [2:35:19] ninyo [2:35:19] o [2:35:20] salamat [2:35:21] ma'am [2:35:21] ayun [2:35:24] nabanggit [2:35:24] din [2:35:24] kanina [2:35:25] i [2:35:25] think [2:35:25] ni [2:35:26] NBI [2:35:27] director [2:35:27] yung [2:35:29] visa [2:35:29] free [2:35:29] entry [2:35:30] policy [2:35:30] ng [2:35:30] DFA [2:35:31] two [2:35:31] years [2:35:31] nga [2:35:32] po [2:35:32] from [2:35:34] China [2:35:35] for [2:35:35] example [2:35:35] and [2:35:36] ilan [2:35:36] pang [2:35:36] mga [2:35:37] bansa [2:35:37] nabanggit [2:35:38] po [2:35:38] kanina [2:35:39] ni [2:35:39] NBI [2:35:39] matibag [2:35:41] directly [2:35:42] matibag [2:35:42] nagagamit [2:35:43] para [2:35:44] pumasok [2:35:44] dito [2:35:44] pero [2:35:45] hindi [2:35:45] na [2:35:45] umaalis [2:35:46] so [2:35:47] naalala [2:35:47] ko [2:35:47] nga [2:35:47] po [2:35:47] kanina [2:35:48] yung [2:35:48] VUA [2:35:48] yung [2:35:50] pag [2:35:50] abuso [2:35:51] sa [2:35:51] visa [2:35:51] upon [2:35:51] arrival [2:35:52] noon [2:35:52] di [2:35:53] na [2:35:54] umaalis [2:35:54] nagiging [2:35:55] parte [2:35:55] na [2:35:55] lang [2:35:55] ng [2:35:55] scam [2:35:56] hub [2:35:56] dito [2:35:57] sa [2:35:57] atin [2:35:57] so [2:35:58] may [2:35:58] monitoring [2:36:00] po [2:36:00] bang [2:36:00] ginagawa [2:36:01] ang [2:36:01] DFA [2:36:02] katulong [2:36:03] ang [2:36:03] BI [2:36:04] para [2:36:04] siguruhin [2:36:06] na [2:36:06] hindi [2:36:06] yan [2:36:07] inaabuso [2:36:07] sa [2:36:08] ganyang [2:36:08] paraan [2:36:08] within [2:36:09] these [2:36:10] two [2:36:10] years [2:36:10] po [2:36:10] sorry [2:36:14] asek [2:36:15] tek [2:36:15] pakiyayos [2:36:16] parang [2:36:16] may [2:36:16] static [2:36:17] salamat [2:36:19] yes ma'am [2:36:20] please [2:36:20] proceed [2:36:20] just a [2:36:21] point of [2:36:21] clarification [2:36:22] the [2:36:23] 14-day [2:36:24] visa [2:36:24] free [2:36:25] entry [2:36:25] privilege [2:36:26] for [2:36:26] chinese [2:36:27] nationals [2:36:28] is in [2:36:28] effect [2:36:28] for [2:36:28] one [2:36:29] year [2:36:29] it [2:36:30] was [2:36:31] issued [2:36:31] in [2:36:32] january [2:36:32] this [2:36:33] year [2:36:33] and [2:36:34] it [2:36:34] is [2:36:35] valid [2:36:35] until [2:36:36] january [2:36:36] 20 [2:36:37] 27 [2:36:38] if [2:36:38] i'm [2:36:38] not [2:36:38] mistaken [2:36:39] i [2:36:39] think [2:36:39] january [2:36:40] 15 [2:36:40] um [2:36:41] 15 [2:36:43] 20 [2:36:44] 27 [2:36:45] and [2:36:46] um [2:36:46] it's [2:36:47] supposed [2:36:48] to [2:36:48] to [2:36:48] be [2:36:49] uh [2:36:49] well [2:36:49] the [2:36:49] policy [2:36:51] it's [2:36:51] really [2:36:52] it's [2:36:53] issued [2:36:53] and [2:36:54] it's [2:36:54] non [2:36:55] convertible [2:36:56] and [2:36:56] non [2:36:57] extendable [2:36:57] so [2:36:58] meaning [2:36:59] those [2:36:59] who [2:37:00] the [2:37:01] Chinese [2:37:01] nationals [2:37:02] who [2:37:02] availed [2:37:02] of that [2:37:03] 14-day [2:37:04] visa [2:37:04] free [2:37:04] should [2:37:05] really [2:37:05] be [2:37:05] just [2:37:06] be [2:37:06] staying [2:37:06] for [2:37:07] purpose [2:37:08] of [2:37:09] tourism [2:37:10] or [2:37:11] business [2:37:11] for a [2:37:12] period [2:37:12] of [2:37:13] 14 [2:37:13] days [2:37:13] so [2:37:14] that [2:37:15] means [2:37:15] in [2:37:15] the [2:37:15] case [2:37:16] that [2:37:16] was [2:37:16] cited [2:37:16] by [2:37:17] director [2:37:18] matibag [2:37:18] that [2:37:19] they [2:37:19] found [2:37:20] out [2:37:20] that [2:37:20] 87 [2:37:22] uh [2:37:23] Chinese [2:37:25] nationals [2:37:25] were [2:37:26] working [2:37:26] in that [2:37:27] establishment [2:37:27] they are [2:37:28] in [2:37:29] violation [2:37:29] already [2:37:30] of [2:37:31] uh [2:37:32] uh [2:37:33] of [2:37:33] the [2:37:33] this [2:37:34] policy [2:37:35] so [2:37:36] those [2:37:36] 87 [2:37:37] na [2:37:37] na [2:37:38] established [2:37:38] ng [2:37:38] DFA [2:37:39] were [2:37:39] abusing [2:37:40] this [2:37:41] visa [2:37:41] free [2:37:42] arrangement [2:37:42] your [2:37:43] honor [2:37:44] we're [2:37:44] learning [2:37:45] about [2:37:45] it [2:37:46] now [2:37:46] from [2:37:46] the [2:37:47] comments [2:37:48] of [2:37:48] the [2:37:49] bureau [2:37:49] of [2:37:49] immigration [2:37:50] so [2:37:50] we [2:37:50] will [2:37:51] be [2:37:51] taking [2:37:52] a [2:37:52] look [2:37:53] into [2:37:53] this [2:37:53] of [2:37:54] course [2:37:54] so [2:37:57] hindi [2:37:57] pa [2:37:58] po [2:37:58] sa [2:37:58] ngayon [2:37:58] minomonitor [2:37:59] ng [2:37:59] DFA [2:38:00] baka [2:38:01] kailangan [2:38:01] po [2:38:02] your [2:38:03] honor [2:38:04] it's [2:38:04] the [2:38:04] this [2:38:05] is [2:38:05] the [2:38:05] initial [2:38:06] implementation [2:38:07] this [2:38:07] is [2:38:07] the [2:38:07] first [2:38:08] year [2:38:08] of [2:38:08] implementation [2:38:09] so [2:38:10] with [2:38:10] this [2:38:11] feedback [2:38:11] from [2:38:13] the [2:38:13] agencies [2:38:14] especially [2:38:15] the [2:38:15] security [2:38:16] agencies [2:38:16] on [2:38:17] what [2:38:18] is [2:38:18] happening [2:38:18] then [2:38:19] we [2:38:19] will [2:38:19] take [2:38:19] it [2:38:20] into [2:38:20] consideration [2:38:21] and [2:38:21] investigate [2:38:22] the [2:38:22] matter [2:38:22] and [2:38:22] work [2:38:23] closely [2:38:23] of course [2:38:24] with [2:38:25] the [2:38:25] bureau [2:38:25] of [2:38:25] immigration [2:38:26] on [2:38:26] how [2:38:26] to [2:38:26] address [2:38:27] the [2:38:27] situation [2:38:28] please [2:38:30] please [2:38:30] do [2:38:30] ASSEC [2:38:32] kasi [2:38:32] gusto [2:38:33] natin [2:38:33] yung [2:38:34] ganyang [2:38:34] mga [2:38:34] visa [2:38:34] free [2:38:35] arrangements [2:38:36] para [2:38:37] gumana [2:38:37] yung [2:38:38] tourism [2:38:38] natin [2:38:39] hindi [2:38:39] para [2:38:40] gamitin [2:38:40] pala [2:38:41] for [2:38:41] malign [2:38:42] activities [2:38:43] or [2:38:44] for [2:38:45] crimes [2:38:47] lumalabas [2:38:48] na po [2:38:49] dito [2:38:49] sa [2:38:49] mga [2:38:49] kasong [2:38:50] ito [2:38:52] before we [2:38:59] continue [2:38:59] ASSEC [2:38:59] director [2:39:00] Matibag [2:39:00] by the way [2:39:01] lang po [2:39:01] alam ba [2:39:03] natin [2:39:03] kung sa [2:39:03] nakakulong [2:39:04] si [2:39:04] Mary Ann [2:39:05] Maslog [2:39:06] yung lumabas [2:39:07] na [2:39:07] scammer [2:39:08] dun sa [2:39:08] Alice [2:39:09] Guho [2:39:09] hearings [2:39:10] kasi [2:39:10] I'm in [2:39:10] receipt [2:39:11] of [2:39:11] new [2:39:11] information [2:39:12] na [2:39:13] di [2:39:13] umano [2:39:14] involved [2:39:14] siya [2:39:15] sa [2:39:15] bagong [2:39:16] wave [2:39:16] of [2:39:16] yung [2:39:17] guerilla [2:39:17] pogos [2:39:18] ngayon [2:39:18] to [2:39:20] check [2:39:20] that [2:39:21] kasi [2:39:21] parang [2:39:21] sa [2:39:22] we will [2:39:24] coordinate [2:39:25] also [2:39:25] with our [2:39:25] counterparts [2:39:26] sa [2:39:26] PNP [2:39:26] and [2:39:28] BGNP [2:39:28] also [2:39:28] check [2:39:29] po [2:39:29] namin [2:39:29] Salamat [2:39:30] director [2:39:30] thank you [2:39:31] so much [2:39:32] po [2:39:33] back to [2:39:40] the [2:39:41] mysterious [2:39:42] 1998 [2:39:42] passport [2:39:43] and [2:39:45] in relation [2:39:46] pa rin [2:39:46] sa [2:39:46] BI [2:39:47] para [2:39:47] ma [2:39:49] umusad [2:39:50] yung [2:39:50] investigation [2:39:51] ng [2:39:51] DFA [2:39:51] on [2:39:52] this [2:39:52] bukod [2:39:52] sa [2:39:53] please [2:39:53] pag [2:39:54] ma-monitor [2:39:54] nyo [2:39:54] na [2:39:55] hindi [2:39:55] inaabuso [2:39:56] yung [2:39:56] visa [2:39:56] free [2:39:56] arrangement [2:39:57] pero [2:39:57] dito [2:39:58] sa [2:39:58] 1998 [2:39:58] passport [2:39:59] ni [2:39:59] Joseph [2:39:59] C [2:40:00] pwede [2:40:00] po [2:40:00] bang [2:40:00] i-check [2:40:01] ng [2:40:01] DFA [2:40:01] kung [2:40:02] yung [2:40:02] biometrics [2:40:03] nung [2:40:04] applicant [2:40:04] ay [2:40:04] nag-exist [2:40:05] na [2:40:05] sa [2:40:06] alien [2:40:07] database [2:40:09] ng BI [2:40:10] under [2:40:11] another [2:40:12] identity [2:40:12] at [2:40:13] that [2:40:13] time [2:40:13] of [2:40:13] 1998 [2:40:14] pwede [2:40:15] bang [2:40:15] i-check [2:40:15] ng [2:40:15] department [2:40:16] your [2:40:18] honor [2:40:19] we [2:40:19] would [2:40:19] have [2:40:19] to [2:40:20] check [2:40:20] first [2:40:20] of [2:40:20] all [2:40:20] if [2:40:21] the [2:40:21] biometric [2:40:22] information [2:40:24] is [2:40:24] available [2:40:25] at [2:40:25] the [2:40:26] time [2:40:26] of [2:40:26] application [2:40:27] in [2:40:27] 1998 [2:40:28] meron [2:40:29] meron [2:40:29] na [2:40:29] po [2:40:29] ba [2:40:29] nun [2:40:30] attorney [2:40:30] knack [2:40:30] capture [2:40:31] ng [2:40:31] biometrics [2:40:32] ng [2:40:33] apikante [2:40:33] before [2:40:35] attorney [2:40:36] knack [2:40:36] sir [2:40:37] herico [2:40:38] may [2:40:39] i [2:40:40] just [2:40:41] correct [2:40:41] on [2:40:41] the [2:40:42] report [2:40:42] of [2:40:42] the [2:40:43] issued [2:40:43] passport [2:40:44] that [2:40:44] you've [2:40:44] been [2:40:45] mentioning [2:40:45] 1998 [2:40:46] on [2:40:47] our [2:40:48] report [2:40:49] we [2:40:51] have [2:40:51] a [2:40:51] record [2:40:52] that [2:40:52] it [2:40:54] is [2:40:54] 13 [2:40:54] February [2:40:55] 2001 [2:40:56] it is [2:40:57] not [2:40:58] 19 [2:40:58] 13 [2:40:58] Feb [2:40:59] 2001 [2:40:59] 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[2:41:42] August [2:41:43] 2006 [2:41:44] this [2:41:45] is [2:41:45] the [2:41:46] record [2:41:47] that [2:41:47] we [2:41:47] do [2:41:47] have [2:41:47] but [2:41:48] we [2:41:48] don't [2:41:49] have [2:41:49] the [2:41:49] 1990 [2:41:49] in [2:41:50] fairness [2:41:51] to [2:41:51] the [2:41:52] DFA [2:41:52] of [2:41:53] the [2:41:54] record [2:41:54] that [2:41:55] do [2:41:55] they [2:41:56] have [2:41:56] the [2:41:57] record [2:41:57] that [2:41:57] should [2:41:57] have [2:41:58] Madam [2:41:58] Chief [2:41:58] so [2:42:00] I [2:42:00] stand [2:42:00] corrected [2:42:00] and [2:42:01] salamat [2:42:01] for [2:42:01] that [2:42:01] correction [2:42:02] of [2:42:03] fact [2:42:03] very [2:42:03] important [2:42:04] 2001 [2:42:06] still [2:42:07] before [2:42:07] 2007 [2:42:08] okay [2:42:08] so [2:42:09] ano [2:42:10] lang [2:42:10] nabawasan [2:42:11] ng [2:42:11] tatlong [2:42:13] taon [2:42:13] yung [2:42:13] kababalaghan [2:42:14] pero [2:42:14] may [2:42:14] anong [2:42:15] taong [2:42:15] pa rin [2:42:15] kababalaghan [2:42:16] the [2:42:17] first [2:42:18] the [2:42:19] birth [2:42:20] certificate [2:42:21] that [2:42:21] he [2:42:21] acquired [2:42:22] is [2:42:22] 2007 [2:42:23] you [2:42:23] mentioned [2:42:24] it's [2:42:24] around [2:42:24] 41 [2:42:25] years [2:42:25] yes [2:42:26] then [2:42:26] we [2:42:26] were [2:42:27] able [2:42:27] to [2:42:27] implement [2:42:28] our [2:42:29] law [2:42:29] after [2:42:30] 20 [2:42:30] years [2:42:30] almost [2:42:33] close [2:42:33] to [2:42:33] 20 [2:42:33] years [2:42:34] 2025 [2:42:34] of [2:42:36] the [2:42:37] fraudulent [2:42:38] record [2:42:39] that he [2:42:40] maximizes [2:42:40] the [2:42:41] use [2:42:42] of [2:42:43] a [2:42:43] legal [2:42:44] document [2:42:44] which [2:42:45] is [2:42:45] the [2:42:46] certificate [2:42:47] of [2:42:47] life [2:42:47] birth [2:42:48] as [2:42:48] we [2:42:49] record [2:42:49] as [2:42:50] early [2:42:50] as [2:42:50] 2007 [2:42:51] as [2:42:52] he [2:42:52] acquired [2:42:52] but [2:42:53] as [2:42:53] we [2:42:54] consistently [2:42:54] says [2:42:55] that [2:42:55] he [2:42:56] is [2:42:56] a [2:42:57] former [2:42:57] Chinese [2:42:58] national [2:42:59] we [2:43:00] are [2:43:01] happy [2:43:01] on [2:43:01] the [2:43:02] investigation [2:43:03] that [2:43:04] made [2:43:04] by [2:43:04] the [2:43:05] Bureau [2:43:05] of [2:43:05] Immigration [2:43:05] by [2:43:06] our [2:43:06] law [2:43:06] enforcement [2:43:06] agency [2:43:07] Salamat [2:43:09] Salamat [2:43:10] Sir [2:43:10] Errico [2:43:10] So [2:43:17] sorry [2:43:18] Attorney [2:43:18] Naknak [2:43:19] so [2:43:19] may [2:43:19] biometrics [2:43:20] na po [2:43:20] ba [2:43:20] na [2:43:22] capture [2:43:23] na [2:43:23] pasok [2:43:24] sa [2:43:24] alien [2:43:24] database [2:43:25] at [2:43:26] the [2:43:27] time [2:43:27] of [2:43:27] the [2:43:27] passport [2:43:28] 2001 [2:43:28] pala [2:43:29] As [2:43:30] to [2:43:30] the [2:43:30] application [2:43:30] during [2:43:31] the [2:43:31] 1989 [2:43:33] for [2:43:33] the [2:43:33] ACR [2:43:34] card [2:43:34] for [2:43:35] a [2:43:35] permanent [2:43:36] resident [2:43:36] visa [2:43:36] I [2:43:37] suppose [2:43:37] it [2:43:38] was [2:43:38] captured [2:43:38] and [2:43:39] it [2:43:39] was [2:43:39] again [2:43:39] captured [2:43:40] when [2:43:40] he [2:43:41] applied [2:43:41] for [2:43:41] 7919 [2:43:42] in [2:43:43] 2007 [2:43:45] so [2:43:47] we [2:43:47] have [2:43:47] that [2:43:47] biometrics [2:43:48] ma'am [2:43:48] but [2:43:49] as [2:43:49] to [2:43:49] passing [2:43:50] through [2:43:50] the [2:43:50] airport [2:43:51] to [2:43:51] capture [2:43:51] biometrics [2:43:52] we [2:43:52] don't [2:43:53] have [2:43:53] that [2:43:53] process [2:43:53] we [2:43:55] only [2:43:55] used [2:43:56] capturing [2:43:57] of [2:43:57] the [2:43:57] passport [2:43:59] details [2:44:00] in [2:44:02] 2010 [2:44:03] yes ma'am [2:44:08] kung yung [2:44:08] passport [2:44:09] na [2:44:09] binanggit ko [2:44:10] at [2:44:11] kinore [2:44:11] kanina [2:44:12] ng [2:44:12] NSA [2:44:12] 2001 [2:44:13] so [2:44:14] older [2:44:15] passport [2:44:15] yung [2:44:15] ginamit [2:44:16] nya [2:44:16] nung [2:44:16] lumakbay [2:44:17] siya [2:44:17] noong [2:44:17] 1998 [2:44:18] yes ma'am [2:44:19] in [2:44:20] our [2:44:20] records [2:44:20] he [2:44:21] used [2:44:21] passport [2:44:23] number [2:44:23] P815391 [2:44:25] okay [2:44:30] salamat [2:44:30] po [2:44:31] Philippine [2:44:32] passport [2:44:33] pa rin [2:44:33] already [2:44:33] in [2:44:34] 1998 [2:44:34] okay [2:44:35] um [2:44:37] ASIC [2:44:44] and [2:44:44] so [2:44:45] yung [2:44:45] pag [2:44:46] check [2:44:46] kung [2:44:47] yung [2:44:49] isang [2:44:49] aplikante [2:44:49] for [2:44:50] Philippine [2:44:50] passport [2:44:51] sa [2:44:51] DFA [2:44:51] ay [2:44:52] may [2:44:52] biometrics [2:44:53] na [2:44:54] sa [2:44:54] alien [2:44:55] database [2:44:56] ng [2:44:56] but [2:44:57] under [2:44:57] another [2:44:58] identity [2:44:58] so [2:44:58] hindi [2:44:59] ito [2:44:59] yung [2:44:59] Joseph [2:45:00] C [2:45:00] case [2:45:00] lang [2:45:01] but [2:45:01] a [2:45:01] similar [2:45:02] person [2:45:02] kaya [2:45:04] na bang [2:45:04] i-check [2:45:05] yun [2:45:05] ng [2:45:05] DFA [2:45:05] as of [2:45:06] today [2:45:06] 2026 [2:45:08] actually [2:45:09] it's [2:45:09] now [2:45:09] happening [2:45:10] in the [2:45:10] cases [2:45:11] that [2:45:11] we [2:45:12] are [2:45:12] investigating [2:45:13] for [2:45:14] instance [2:45:14] we [2:45:15] suspect [2:45:15] not [2:45:16] only [2:45:17] suspected [2:45:17] foreign [2:45:18] nationals [2:45:18] but [2:45:19] other [2:45:20] Filipino [2:45:20] or [2:45:22] Filipino [2:45:23] citizens [2:45:23] applying [2:45:24] for a [2:45:24] passport [2:45:24] if [2:45:25] we [2:45:26] suspect [2:45:26] that [2:45:27] it [2:45:27] is [2:45:27] fraudulent [2:45:28] especially [2:45:29] the [2:45:30] documents [2:45:30] that [2:45:30] we [2:45:31] present [2:45:31] then [2:45:32] we [2:45:32] verify [2:45:33] it [2:45:33] with [2:45:33] several [2:45:34] agencies [2:45:34] usually [2:45:35] ito yung [2:45:36] PSA [2:45:37] and then [2:45:38] NBI [2:45:39] for the [2:45:41] NBI [2:45:41] clearance [2:45:42] and [2:45:43] also [2:45:44] with [2:45:44] the [2:45:45] BI [2:45:45] if [2:45:46] it [2:45:47] is [2:45:47] a [2:45:47] case [2:45:47] of [2:45:48] the [2:45:48] SFN [2:45:49] and [2:45:49] we [2:45:49] have [2:45:50] a [2:45:50] suspicion [2:45:50] then [2:45:51] that's [2:45:52] when [2:45:52] we [2:45:52] may [2:45:53] request [2:45:53] information [2:45:55] from [2:45:55] the [2:45:56] BI [2:45:56] but [2:45:56] it's [2:45:57] not [2:45:57] part [2:45:58] of [2:45:58] the [2:45:58] regular [2:45:59] system [2:46:01] so [2:46:02] it's [2:46:04] not [2:46:04] part [2:46:05] of [2:46:05] the [2:46:05] regular [2:46:05] processing [2:46:06] it's [2:46:08] only [2:46:08] when [2:46:08] the [2:46:09] if [2:46:10] it's [2:46:10] especially [2:46:11] in the [2:46:11] case [2:46:11] with [2:46:11] the [2:46:12] BI [2:46:12] the [2:46:12] checking [2:46:13] with [2:46:13] the [2:46:13] ACR [2:46:14] whether [2:46:14] the [2:46:14] person [2:46:15] has [2:46:15] been [2:46:15] issued [2:46:16] an [2:46:16] ACR [2:46:17] card [2:46:17] that [2:46:18] will [2:46:18] come [2:46:19] in [2:46:19] when [2:46:19] really [2:46:20] the [2:46:21] case [2:46:21] is [2:46:21] suspected [2:46:22] foreign [2:46:22] national [2:46:23] and [2:46:24] I [2:46:24] would [2:46:24] just [2:46:25] like [2:46:25] to [2:46:25] take [2:46:25] note [2:46:26] that [2:46:26] of [2:46:27] course [2:46:27] it's [2:46:27] the [2:46:28] SFN [2:46:30] cases [2:46:30] that we [2:46:30] handle [2:46:31] it's [2:46:31] not [2:46:31] only [2:46:31] Chinese [2:46:32] there [2:46:33] are [2:46:33] other [2:46:33] nationals [2:46:34] who [2:46:34] are [2:46:34] trying [2:46:35] to [2:46:36] obtain [2:46:37] passports [2:46:38] as well [2:46:39] actually [2:46:40] we [2:46:41] continue [2:46:41] to be [2:46:42] very [2:46:42] vigilant [2:46:43] about [2:46:43] it [2:46:43] well [2:46:44] of [2:46:44] course [2:46:44] since [2:46:45] all [2:46:45] the [2:46:45] cases [2:46:46] have [2:46:47] come [2:46:47] up [2:46:47] since [2:46:48] 2024 [2:46:49] since [2:46:49] Alice [2:46:50] Go [2:46:50] for [2:46:52] the [2:46:52] period [2:46:53] 2025 [2:46:54] up [2:46:54] to [2:46:55] present [2:46:56] our [2:46:58] office [2:46:59] in [2:46:59] Asiana [2:47:00] as well [2:47:00] as our [2:47:01] consular [2:47:01] offices [2:47:02] there [2:47:03] is a [2:47:04] report [2:47:04] of [2:47:04] about [2:47:05] 60 [2:47:06] attempts [2:47:07] of [2:47:09] individuals [2:47:10] SFN [2:47:11] suspected [2:47:12] who [2:47:13] have [2:47:13] tried [2:47:14] to [2:47:14] obtain [2:47:15] a [2:47:16] Philippine [2:47:16] passport [2:47:16] so [2:47:17] they [2:47:18] are [2:47:18] investigated [2:47:19] and [2:47:20] usually [2:47:21] we [2:47:22] pass [2:47:24] the [2:47:25] information [2:47:25] to [2:47:26] the [2:47:26] NBI [2:47:27] for [2:47:28] further [2:47:29] investigation [2:47:29] yes [2:47:31] Sabi nyo nga [2:47:34] Asik [2:47:34] this is not [2:47:35] yet part [2:47:36] of the [2:47:37] regular [2:47:37] system [2:47:37] so [2:47:38] similar [2:47:38] question [2:47:39] ko [2:47:39] sa [2:47:39] ibang [2:47:39] mga [2:47:40] ahensya [2:47:41] you will [2:47:43] also [2:47:43] undertake [2:47:44] a process [2:47:44] investigating [2:47:45] about [2:47:46] that [2:47:46] 2001 [2:47:47] passport [2:47:49] pala [2:47:49] and [2:47:50] yung [2:47:52] isa [2:47:53] pa [2:47:53] ah [2:47:54] yung [2:47:54] pag [2:47:54] monitor [2:47:54] nyo [2:47:55] dun sa [2:47:55] hindi [2:47:55] pag-aabuso [2:47:56] sa visa [2:47:57] free [2:47:57] arrivals [2:47:59] within [2:47:59] this [2:47:59] one [2:48:01] year [2:48:01] so [2:48:01] is it [2:48:03] is it [2:48:03] possible [2:48:04] po ba [2:48:04] na [2:48:05] itong [2:48:06] pag-check [2:48:07] ng [2:48:08] applicants [2:48:10] biometrics [2:48:11] passport [2:48:12] applicants [2:48:12] biometrics [2:48:13] aren't [2:48:14] also [2:48:14] in the [2:48:15] BI [2:48:15] alien [2:48:15] database [2:48:16] under [2:48:16] another [2:48:17] identity [2:48:18] would [2:48:19] it [2:48:19] be [2:48:19] possible [2:48:20] na [2:48:20] yun [2:48:20] yung [2:48:20] isang [2:48:21] immediate [2:48:21] or [2:48:21] urgent [2:48:22] action [2:48:23] even [2:48:23] within [2:48:23] a [2:48:23] limited [2:48:24] time [2:48:24] frame [2:48:24] hanggang [2:48:25] makumpleto [2:48:25] yung [2:48:25] audit [2:48:26] ng lahat [2:48:27] ng [2:48:27] mga [2:48:27] ibang [2:48:28] ahensya [2:48:29] na [2:48:29] kasama [2:48:29] nyo [2:48:29] alimbawa [2:48:30] dun sa [2:48:30] interagency [2:48:31] committee [2:48:33] maybe [2:48:33] that's [2:48:33] something [2:48:33] also [2:48:34] for [2:48:34] the [2:48:35] department [2:48:35] to [2:48:35] consider [2:48:36] po [2:48:36] para [2:48:36] confident [2:48:38] ng [2:48:38] bawat [2:48:39] ahensya [2:48:39] na [2:48:39] malinis [2:48:40] ang [2:48:40] kani-kaniang [2:48:41] database [2:48:42] and [2:48:43] it's [2:48:44] cross-check [2:48:45] with the [2:48:45] other [2:48:45] databases [2:48:46] malinis [2:48:47] nga [2:48:47] then [2:48:47] then [2:48:48] maybe [2:48:48] that's [2:48:49] the [2:48:49] time [2:48:49] you [2:48:49] will [2:48:49] move [2:48:49] back [2:48:50] into [2:48:50] more [2:48:50] of [2:48:50] regular [2:48:51] programming [2:48:51] o [2:48:52] asek [2:48:53] yes [2:48:54] sir [2:48:54] honor [2:48:54] so [2:48:56] yun [2:48:57] na [2:48:57] let's [2:48:57] use [2:48:57] the [2:48:58] Joseph [2:48:58] C. [2:48:58] case [2:48:58] as [2:48:59] the [2:49:00] test [2:49:00] kung [2:49:01] nasa [2:49:01] BI [2:49:01] records [2:49:02] si [2:49:02] Cheng [2:49:03] Zhong [2:49:03] Jian [2:49:03] as a [2:49:04] Chinese [2:49:05] national [2:49:05] and [2:49:06] then [2:49:06] the [2:49:07] DFA [2:49:07] comes [2:49:08] the [2:49:09] same [2:49:09] person [2:49:10] goes [2:49:10] to [2:49:11] DFA [2:49:11] naman [2:49:11] po [2:49:12] as [2:49:12] Joseph [2:49:12] C. [2:49:13] with [2:49:13] a [2:49:13] PSA [2:49:14] birth [2:49:14] certificate [2:49:15] so [2:49:16] iitanong [2:49:16] natin [2:49:17] ito [2:49:17] from [2:49:17] the [2:49:17] positive [2:49:18] angle [2:49:18] what [2:49:19] would [2:49:20] stop [2:49:20] DFA [2:49:21] from [2:49:21] issuing [2:49:21] the [2:49:22] passport [2:49:22] if [2:49:26] in [2:49:26] the [2:49:26] process [2:49:27] of [2:49:28] the [2:49:28] verification [2:49:29] of [2:49:29] the [2:49:29] documents [2:49:30] there [2:49:30] is [2:49:31] a [2:49:31] suspicion [2:49:31] for [2:49:33] first [2:49:33] of [2:49:33] all [2:49:33] there's [2:49:34] a [2:49:34] discrepant [2:49:35] entries [2:49:35] meaning [2:49:36] hindi [2:49:37] nagmamatch [2:49:39] then [2:49:40] also [2:49:42] if [2:49:43] in the [2:49:43] process [2:49:43] of [2:49:44] the [2:49:44] interview [2:49:44] and [2:49:45] this [2:49:45] has [2:49:46] happened [2:49:46] in [2:49:47] the [2:49:47] SFN [2:49:47] cases [2:49:48] that [2:49:48] we [2:49:49] denied [2:49:49] because [2:49:50] when [2:49:51] we [2:49:51] interviewed [2:49:51] them [2:49:52] they [2:49:52] could [2:49:52] not [2:49:53] speak [2:49:53] Filipino [2:49:55] or [2:49:55] any [2:49:55] Filipino [2:49:56] language [2:49:57] or [2:49:58] dialect [2:49:58] so [2:50:00] then [2:50:00] we [2:50:01] suspend [2:50:01] the [2:50:02] application [2:50:03] so [2:50:03] meaning [2:50:04] it [2:50:04] will [2:50:04] not [2:50:05] proceed [2:50:05] at [2:50:06] all [2:50:06] and [2:50:07] if [2:50:08] there [2:50:09] is [2:50:09] evidence [2:50:12] that [2:50:13] the [2:50:13] person [2:50:14] is [2:50:14] really [2:50:15] suspected [2:50:16] foreign [2:50:16] national [2:50:17] then [2:50:18] we [2:50:18] coordinate [2:50:19] with [2:50:19] the [2:50:19] other [2:50:19] agencies [2:50:20] such [2:50:20] as [2:50:20] reporting [2:50:22] it [2:50:22] to be [2:50:22] NBI [2:50:23] for [2:50:23] further [2:50:24] investigation [2:50:25] So [2:50:25] talagang [2:50:26] magsastop [2:50:27] siya [2:50:27] we [2:50:27] suspend [2:50:28] the [2:50:29] application [2:50:29] it [2:50:30] will [2:50:30] not [2:50:30] proceed [2:50:30] Okay [2:50:33] so [2:50:33] that's [2:50:33] good to know [2:50:34] at least [2:50:34] ngayon [2:50:34] meron [2:50:35] meron [2:50:36] na ring [2:50:36] triggers [2:50:36] within [2:50:37] the [2:50:37] department [2:50:37] itself [2:50:38] bukod pa [2:50:38] po sa [2:50:39] through the [2:50:39] interagency [2:50:40] cooperation [2:50:42] another [2:50:44] thinking aloud [2:50:46] ang DFA [2:50:48] po ba [2:50:49] magsusuporta [2:50:50] kaya [2:50:50] ang department [2:50:51] ang isang [2:50:51] biometric [2:50:52] conflict [2:50:53] checking [2:50:53] mechanism [2:50:54] with BI [2:50:54] at least [2:50:56] for high [2:50:56] risk [2:50:57] applications [2:50:58] tulad [2:50:58] ng mga [2:50:59] significantly [2:50:59] delayed [2:51:00] birth [2:51:02] certificate [2:51:02] registrations [2:51:03] open [2:51:05] kaya [2:51:05] ang department [2:51:06] i-consider [2:51:06] yan [2:51:06] Yes [2:51:08] we would [2:51:09] be [2:51:09] amenable [2:51:10] to [2:51:10] considering [2:51:11] that [2:51:11] actually [2:51:12] we are [2:51:12] discussing [2:51:13] with [2:51:13] BI [2:51:15] and [2:51:16] Nika [2:51:16] on a [2:51:17] similar [2:51:17] data sharing [2:51:20] arrangement [2:51:21] but this [2:51:22] one is [2:51:22] for visa [2:51:23] so I [2:51:24] think [2:51:24] there's [2:51:25] nothing [2:51:25] that [2:51:25] could [2:51:26] bar [2:51:26] us [2:51:26] from [2:51:27] having [2:51:28] the [2:51:29] same [2:51:29] sharing [2:51:31] of [2:51:31] information [2:51:32] this [2:51:33] time [2:51:33] for the [2:51:33] checking [2:51:34] of [2:51:34] passport [2:51:35] for the [2:51:35] purpose [2:51:36] of [2:51:36] passport [2:51:36] applications [2:51:37] so [2:51:38] our [2:51:40] discussions [2:51:41] on the [2:51:42] sharing [2:51:43] of [2:51:43] information [2:51:44] of [2:51:44] visa [2:51:44] is [2:51:45] still [2:51:45] ongoing [2:51:46] there's [2:51:47] no [2:51:47] it [2:51:48] hasn't [2:51:50] been [2:51:50] finalized [2:51:51] yet [2:51:51] but [2:51:51] if [2:51:52] we [2:51:53] are [2:51:53] moving [2:51:53] towards [2:51:54] that [2:51:54] direction [2:51:55] in [2:51:55] terms [2:51:56] of [2:51:56] checking [2:51:56] with [2:51:57] the [2:51:57] passport [2:51:57] details [2:51:58] I [2:51:58] think [2:51:58] that [2:51:59] could [2:51:59] also [2:51:59] be [2:51:59] done [2:51:59] we [2:52:00] just [2:52:00] need [2:52:00] to [2:52:00] work [2:52:00] out [2:52:01] details [2:52:01] of [2:52:02] how [2:52:02] it's [2:52:03] going [2:52:03] to [2:52:03] be [2:52:03] implemented [2:52:04] that's [2:52:06] good [2:52:06] to know [2:52:06] ma'am [2:52:06] salamat [2:52:07] and then [2:52:07] tulad [2:52:08] ng [2:52:08] tinanong [2:52:08] ko [2:52:08] sa [2:52:08] ibang [2:52:09] mga [2:52:09] ahensya [2:52:09] din [2:52:09] kanina [2:52:10] kailangan [2:52:11] pa ba [2:52:12] ng [2:52:12] department [2:52:12] ng [2:52:13] additional [2:52:13] authority [2:52:14] mula [2:52:15] sa [2:52:15] kongreso [2:52:15] para [2:52:16] mag-flag [2:52:16] mag-restrict [2:52:17] mag-investigate [2:52:18] o mag-temporarily [2:52:20] suspend [2:52:21] action [2:52:21] involving [2:52:22] a passport [2:52:23] kung saan [2:52:24] yung [2:52:24] foundational [2:52:25] identity [2:52:26] mismo [2:52:27] ay sumasa [2:52:28] ilalim [2:52:29] sa formal [2:52:29] fraud [2:52:29] proceedings [2:52:30] Your [2:52:32] Honor [2:52:32] let me [2:52:33] respond [2:52:34] with an [2:52:34] example [2:52:35] so [2:52:36] PSA [2:52:37] provided [2:52:37] us [2:52:38] a list [2:52:38] of [2:52:39] the list [2:52:40] they provided [2:52:40] us [2:52:41] was [2:52:41] 1,471 [2:52:43] the cases [2:52:44] in [2:52:44] Davao [2:52:45] del Sur [2:52:46] so [2:52:46] when [2:52:47] we [2:52:47] received [2:52:47] that [2:52:48] we [2:52:48] immediately [2:52:48] checked [2:52:49] our [2:52:50] e-passport [2:52:51] database [2:52:52] and found [2:52:53] that of [2:52:54] the [2:52:54] 1,471 [2:52:56] 39 [2:52:57] are [2:52:58] with [2:52:58] passports [2:52:59] so [2:53:00] out of [2:53:02] the [2:53:02] 39 [2:53:02] we [2:53:03] investigated [2:53:04] and [2:53:05] as of [2:53:05] this [2:53:06] date [2:53:06] we [2:53:06] cancelled [2:53:07] 7 [2:53:07] and [2:53:09] the [2:53:09] remaining [2:53:10] 32 [2:53:10] are [2:53:11] in [2:53:11] various [2:53:12] stages [2:53:13] of [2:53:13] investigation [2:53:14] some [2:53:15] requiring [2:53:15] confirmation [2:53:16] of [2:53:17] certain [2:53:17] details [2:53:18] from [2:53:18] the [2:53:18] PSA [2:53:19] and [2:53:20] so [2:53:22] I [2:53:23] think [2:53:23] this [2:53:24] shows [2:53:24] that [2:53:24] once [2:53:25] we [2:53:26] receive [2:53:26] the [2:53:27] advice [2:53:28] we [2:53:29] can [2:53:29] proceed [2:53:29] with [2:53:30] our [2:53:30] internal [2:53:31] investigation [2:53:32] in [2:53:33] coordination [2:53:33] with [2:53:34] the [2:53:34] other [2:53:34] security [2:53:35] agencies [2:53:35] if [2:53:35] needed [2:53:36] but [2:53:37] we [2:53:37] can [2:53:37] already [2:53:38] act [2:53:38] on [2:53:39] them [2:53:39] as [2:53:40] long [2:53:40] as [2:53:41] the [2:53:41] information [2:53:43] of [2:53:43] course [2:53:44] comes [2:53:44] from [2:53:44] the [2:53:45] PSA [2:53:46] and [2:53:47] there [2:53:47] is [2:53:48] but [2:53:49] on [2:53:50] certain [2:53:51] cases [2:53:51] then [2:53:52] we [2:53:52] really [2:53:52] need [2:53:53] the [2:53:53] formal [2:53:55] notification [2:53:55] that [2:53:56] the [2:53:57] birth [2:53:58] certificate [2:53:59] has been [2:54:00] cancelled [2:54:01] and [2:54:02] sometimes [2:54:02] that [2:54:02] may [2:54:03] have [2:54:03] to [2:54:03] come [2:54:03] from [2:54:04] the [2:54:05] courts [2:54:05] Well [2:54:08] good [2:54:09] to [2:54:09] know [2:54:10] na [2:54:10] meron [2:54:11] na [2:54:11] rin [2:54:11] kayong [2:54:11] nagagawa [2:54:12] with [2:54:12] the [2:54:12] information [2:54:13] provided [2:54:15] you [2:54:15] hindi [2:54:17] rin [2:54:17] naman [2:54:17] kayo [2:54:17] mag-o-object [2:54:18] dun [2:54:18] sa [2:54:18] mungkahin [2:54:20] ng [2:54:20] OSG [2:54:21] ano [2:54:21] po [2:54:21] for [2:54:22] or [2:54:23] would [2:54:24] you [2:54:25] support [2:54:25] that [2:54:25] to [2:54:26] legislate [2:54:27] administrative [2:54:27] cancellation [2:54:28] in the [2:54:29] case [2:54:29] of [2:54:30] foreign [2:54:30] nationals [2:54:30] Yes [2:54:31] because [2:54:31] I [2:54:32] think [2:54:32] that's [2:54:32] one [2:54:33] of [2:54:33] the [2:54:33] avenues [2:54:34] where [2:54:35] we [2:54:35] really [2:54:35] because [2:54:35] we're [2:54:36] one [2:54:36] of [2:54:36] the [2:54:36] agencies [2:54:37] where [2:54:37] these [2:54:37] documents [2:54:38] are [2:54:38] presented [2:54:39] so [2:54:40] I [2:54:40] think [2:54:40] that's [2:54:41] a [2:54:41] very [2:54:41] good [2:54:41] measure [2:54:41] to [2:54:42] ensure [2:54:42] that [2:54:43] the [2:54:44] integrity [2:54:45] of the [2:54:46] document [2:54:46] Yes [2:54:47] Sa akin [2:54:48] ma'am [2:54:49] the [2:54:49] integrity [2:54:49] of the [2:54:50] document [2:54:50] kasi [2:54:51] sobrang [2:54:51] connectado [2:54:51] sa [2:54:52] integrity [2:54:52] ng [2:54:53] Filipino [2:54:53] citizenship [2:54:54] mismo [2:54:54] yung [2:54:55] pagkakilan [2:54:55] na [2:54:55] natin [2:54:56] mismo [2:54:56] Yes [2:54:57] ma'am [2:54:58] and [2:54:59] then [2:55:00] huling [2:55:00] tanong [2:55:00] po [2:55:00] sa [2:55:01] department [2:55:01] tulad [2:55:01] sa [2:55:02] ibang [2:55:02] mga [2:55:02] ayhan [2:55:02] siya [2:55:02] kanina [2:55:02] ano [2:55:03] yung [2:55:03] reform [2:55:04] na [2:55:04] kailangan [2:55:05] para [2:55:05] hindi [2:55:08] ang [2:55:09] questionable [2:55:10] birth [2:55:10] certificate [2:55:11] papunta [2:55:12] sa [2:55:12] Philippine [2:55:12] passport [2:55:13] maputo [2:55:14] na po [2:55:14] yung [2:55:14] connection [2:55:14] dun [2:55:15] any [2:55:16] additional [2:55:17] reforms [2:55:18] needed [2:55:18] sa [2:55:18] perspective [2:55:19] ng [2:55:19] department [2:55:20] Well [2:55:22] the [2:55:22] DFA [2:55:23] has [2:55:23] actually [2:55:23] participated [2:55:24] in [2:55:24] the [2:55:25] hearings [2:55:25] on [2:55:26] the [2:55:26] bills [2:55:27] on [2:55:28] the [2:55:28] civil [2:55:28] registration [2:55:29] law [2:55:29] so [2:55:30] we [2:55:30] have [2:55:31] provided [2:55:31] inputs [2:55:32] as [2:55:32] well [2:55:32] based [2:55:34] on [2:55:34] our [2:55:34] experience [2:55:36] on [2:55:36] the [2:55:36] processing [2:55:37] of [2:55:37] the [2:55:37] document [2:55:38] on [2:55:38] how [2:55:38] the [2:55:39] processes [2:55:40] can [2:55:41] be [2:55:41] streamlined [2:55:42] and [2:55:43] I [2:55:44] think [2:55:44] that [2:55:44] is [2:55:44] one [2:55:45] avenue [2:55:45] where [2:55:45] the [2:55:46] DFA [2:55:46] has [2:55:46] been [2:55:46] provided [2:55:47] inputs [2:55:48] so [2:55:49] that [2:55:49] because [2:55:50] of course [2:55:51] as [2:55:51] mentioned [2:55:51] by [2:55:52] the [2:55:53] OSG [2:55:53] we [2:55:54] presume [2:55:54] the [2:55:55] DFA [2:55:55] when [2:55:56] the [2:55:56] PSA [2:55:58] civil [2:55:59] registry [2:55:59] documents [2:56:00] are [2:56:00] presented [2:56:00] we [2:56:01] presume [2:56:01] regularity [2:56:02] so [2:56:03] it's [2:56:04] really [2:56:04] the [2:56:05] recording [2:56:07] and [2:56:08] the [2:56:08] content [2:56:09] information [2:56:10] that [2:56:11] is [2:56:11] being [2:56:11] declared [2:56:12] in [2:56:13] the [2:56:13] civil [2:56:14] registry [2:56:14] documents [2:56:15] that [2:56:15] may [2:56:16] be [2:56:16] a [2:56:16] source [2:56:17] of [2:56:17] fraud [2:56:17] so [2:56:18] I [2:56:18] think [2:56:18] that [2:56:18] is [2:56:19] where [2:56:19] we [2:56:19] need [2:56:19] to [2:56:19] strengthen [2:56:20] the [2:56:21] process [2:56:22] we [2:56:24] need [2:56:24] to [2:56:25] preserve [2:56:25] the [2:56:25] integrity [2:56:25] of [2:56:26] the [2:56:26] birth [2:56:27] certificate [2:56:28] for one [2:56:29] important [2:56:30] documents [2:56:31] that [2:56:31] we [2:56:31] need [2:56:31] to [2:56:31] to [2:56:31] need [2:56:32] to [2:56:33] help [2:56:34] to [2:56:35] ensure [2:56:35] that [2:56:35] may [2:56:35] access [2:56:36] yung [2:56:36] hirap [2:56:37] maka [2:56:37] access [2:56:37] tulad [2:56:38] sa [2:56:38] GIDA [2:56:39] areas [2:56:39] mga [2:56:40] super [2:56:40] seniors [2:56:41] mga [2:56:41] katutubo [2:56:43] mga [2:56:43] disaster [2:56:44] victim [2:56:45] survivors [2:56:46] but [2:56:47] deny [2:56:48] access [2:56:49] sa [2:56:49] mga [2:56:50] umaabuso [2:56:50] nito [2:56:50] for [2:56:51] wrongdoing [2:56:52] hindi [2:56:53] lang [2:56:53] against [2:56:54] our [2:56:54] laws [2:56:54] but [2:56:54] creating [2:56:55] harms [2:56:56] against [2:56:56] against [2:56:57] our [2:56:57] people [2:56:58] Just one [2:57:00] question [2:57:01] sa [2:57:01] PNP [2:57:02] please [2:57:02] bago [2:57:03] tayo [2:57:03] mag [2:57:04] suspend [2:57:04] ga-adjourn [2:57:05] na sana [2:57:05] kaya lang [2:57:06] suspend [2:57:07] lamang [2:57:08] dahil may [2:57:08] importanteng [2:57:09] resource [2:57:09] person [2:57:10] na wala [2:57:10] sa [2:57:12] PNP [2:57:13] po [2:57:13] will it [2:57:14] be [2:57:14] police [2:57:16] brigadier [2:57:16] general [2:57:16] and [2:57:17] yes sir [2:57:18] meron po [2:57:22] kayong [2:57:22] sariling [2:57:23] investigations [2:57:24] sa mga [2:57:25] guerrilla [2:57:25] fogos [2:57:26] na [2:57:26] naglilipa [2:57:26] na po [2:57:27] sa [2:57:27] ngayon [2:57:27] meron [2:57:28] po [2:57:28] bang [2:57:28] emerging [2:57:28] findings [2:57:29] na [2:57:30] pwede [2:57:30] nyong [2:57:30] ibahagi [2:57:31] publicly [2:57:32] sa hearing [2:57:32] na ito [2:57:33] Actually [2:57:34] good afternoon [2:57:36] ma'am [2:57:36] just [2:57:37] yesterday [2:57:38] we have [2:57:38] successfully [2:57:39] conducted [2:57:40] an operation [2:57:41] against [2:57:42] POGO [2:57:42] wherein [2:57:42] 166 [2:57:45] foreign [2:57:46] national [2:57:46] were being [2:57:47] rescued [2:57:47] and it's [2:57:48] continuing [2:57:49] as to [2:57:51] answer [2:57:52] halos [2:57:52] same [2:57:53] din naman [2:57:53] po [2:57:53] as what [2:57:55] recommended [2:57:55] by the [2:57:56] NBI [2:57:59] director [2:58:00] halos [2:58:00] ganun [2:58:00] din po [2:58:01] and [2:58:02] still [2:58:02] ongoing [2:58:03] investigation [2:58:04] part [2:58:04] Paki [2:58:06] update [2:58:07] na lang [2:58:07] po [2:58:07] ang [2:58:08] committee [2:58:08] sir [2:58:08] bago [2:58:10] namin [2:58:10] ma-finalize [2:58:11] yung [2:58:11] committee [2:58:11] report [2:58:11] para [2:58:12] kung may [2:58:12] mga [2:58:12] findings [2:58:13] at [2:58:13] proposed [2:58:14] recommendations [2:58:14] din [2:58:15] mula [2:58:15] sa [2:58:15] PNP [2:58:15] makonsider [2:58:16] po [2:58:16] ito [2:58:16] para [2:58:17] sa [2:58:17] committee [2:58:17] report [2:58:18] yes [2:58:18] yes ma'am [2:58:19] we [2:58:19] welcome [2:58:19] salamat [2:58:20] sir [2:58:20] lalo [2:58:20] na [2:58:21] kung [2:58:21] paano [2:58:21] maputol [2:58:22] na [2:58:22] natin [2:58:23] yung [2:58:23] paggamit [2:58:23] ng [2:58:23] philippine [2:58:24] birth [2:58:24] certificates [2:58:25] and other [2:58:26] identity [2:58:26] documents [2:58:27] para sa [2:58:28] mga [2:58:28] POGO [2:58:28] at [2:58:28] iba [2:58:28] pang [2:58:29] criminal [2:58:29] activities [2:58:30] dito [2:58:30] sa atin [2:58:31] yes ma'am [2:58:32] we [2:58:32] will [2:58:32] go [2:58:32] salamat [2:58:33] general [2:58:35] oh [2:58:37] sorry [2:58:37] may isang [2:58:38] pahabog [2:58:38] na tanong [2:58:39] po [2:58:39] para sa [2:58:39] DOJ [2:58:41] sorry [2:58:43] yeah [2:58:44] po [2:58:45] attorney [2:58:46] de jesus [2:58:48] sir [2:58:48] bati po [2:58:55] sa [2:58:55] napag-usapan [2:58:56] natin [2:58:56] at [2:58:57] narinig [2:58:58] ng [2:58:59] department [2:58:59] sa [2:59:00] hearing [2:59:00] ngayon [2:59:01] anong [2:59:02] posibleng [2:59:03] additional [2:59:03] charges [2:59:04] ang [2:59:04] mairekomenda [2:59:06] laban [2:59:07] kay [2:59:07] Joseph C [2:59:08] good afternoon [2:59:12] madam chair [2:59:13] for now [2:59:15] we cannot [2:59:16] answer that [2:59:17] because we do not [2:59:18] belong to the [2:59:19] national prosecution [2:59:19] service [2:59:20] so we're from [2:59:21] the legal staff [2:59:22] so maybe [2:59:22] in the next [2:59:24] hearing [2:59:24] they can be [2:59:25] invited [2:59:25] so that [2:59:26] they can [2:59:26] shed light [2:59:27] on what [2:59:28] the possible [2:59:28] charge [2:59:29] could be [2:59:29] the legal [2:59:34] staff [2:59:34] specifically [2:59:35] from [2:59:35] but [2:59:40] as a [2:59:41] member [2:59:41] of the [2:59:41] DOJ [2:59:42] would [2:59:44] there [2:59:44] be [2:59:44] even [2:59:45] initial [2:59:46] thoughts [2:59:47] on the [2:59:47] possible [2:59:48] charges [2:59:48] or [2:59:49] are [2:59:49] you [2:59:49] going [2:59:49] to [2:59:50] leave [2:59:50] that [2:59:50] totally [2:59:50] to [2:59:51] the [2:59:51] other [2:59:51] unit [2:59:52] so [2:59:54] we [2:59:54] have [2:59:55] ideas [2:59:55] but [2:59:56] we [2:59:56] leave [2:59:56] it [2:59:56] to [2:59:57] the [2:59:57] national [2:59:57] prosecution [2:59:58] service [2:59:58] so [3:00:05] so [3:00:05] pakirelay [3:00:05] na [3:00:05] lamang [3:00:06] po [3:00:06] sa [3:00:06] kanila [3:00:06] yung [3:00:07] lumabas [3:00:08] na [3:00:08] mga [3:00:08] diskusyon [3:00:09] kanina [3:00:09] because [3:00:10] as in [3:00:11] previous [3:00:11] investigations [3:00:12] you will [3:00:12] be [3:00:12] counting [3:00:12] a lot [3:00:13] on the [3:00:14] DOJ [3:00:14] in terms [3:00:15] of [3:00:16] yung [3:00:16] findings [3:00:17] and [3:00:17] proposed [3:00:17] recommendations [3:00:18] na [3:00:18] tingin [3:00:18] nyo [3:00:19] mahalaga [3:00:19] para sa [3:00:20] committee [3:00:20] report [3:00:21] salamat [3:00:22] po [3:00:22] attorney [3:00:22] so [3:00:24] okay [3:00:26] yes [3:00:31] director [3:00:31] Matiba [3:00:32] just to [3:00:32] respond to [3:00:33] your [3:00:33] query [3:00:34] about [3:00:34] Mary [3:00:34] and [3:00:35] Maslong [3:00:35] yes [3:00:36] thank you [3:00:36] I got [3:00:37] information [3:00:38] from her [3:00:39] staff [3:00:39] that [3:00:39] she is [3:00:40] presently [3:00:40] detained [3:00:41] at [3:00:41] the [3:00:41] correctional [3:00:42] in [3:00:44] Madaluyong [3:00:45] women [3:00:45] correctional [3:00:46] in [3:00:46] Madaluyong [3:00:47] correctional [3:00:48] institution [3:00:49] for [3:00:49] women [3:00:50] and [3:00:50] it [3:00:51] was [3:00:51] the [3:00:52] NBO [3:00:52] turned [3:00:52] over [3:00:53] them [3:00:53] on [3:00:54] February [3:00:54] 17 [3:00:55] 2025 [3:00:55] she [3:00:56] was convicted [3:00:57] January [3:00:57] 28 [3:00:58] 2025 [3:00:59] so [3:00:59] that's [3:00:59] the [3:01:00] information [3:01:00] that [3:01:02] was [3:01:02] but [3:01:04] we have [3:01:04] to [3:01:04] take it [3:01:05] with [3:01:05] the [3:01:05] but [3:01:11] the [3:01:12] record [3:01:12] showed [3:01:12] that [3:01:13] on [3:01:13] February [3:01:13] 17 [3:01:14] we [3:01:14] turned [3:01:14] over [3:01:15] the [3:01:16] person [3:01:16] to [3:01:17] CIW [3:01:18] yes [3:01:20] before [3:01:21] the [3:01:22] director [3:01:22] about [3:01:23] Mary Ann [3:01:23] Maslong [3:01:25] before [3:01:26] you [3:01:26] go [3:01:26] to [3:01:26] that [3:01:27] women's [3:01:28] culture [3:01:29] so [3:01:29] doon [3:01:30] din [3:01:30] nakadetain [3:01:31] si [3:01:31] Alice [3:01:31] Tama [3:01:32] po [3:01:32] so [3:01:32] the [3:01:33] committee [3:01:34] would be [3:01:34] very [3:01:34] interested [3:01:35] kung [3:01:35] itong [3:01:35] information [3:01:36] involved [3:01:37] si [3:01:37] Mary Ann [3:01:38] Maslong [3:01:38] sa bagong [3:01:39] wave [3:01:40] ng [3:01:40] mga [3:01:40] guerilla [3:01:41] POGO [3:01:41] well [3:01:42] alam [3:01:42] nyo [3:01:43] naman [3:01:43] sometimes [3:01:43] you [3:01:44] don't [3:01:44] have [3:01:44] to [3:01:44] be [3:01:44] outside [3:01:45] of [3:01:45] prison [3:01:45] to [3:01:45] do [3:01:46] criminal [3:01:46] activities [3:01:47] and so on [3:01:47] definitely [3:01:48] I will [3:01:49] personally [3:01:49] check [3:01:50] it [3:01:50] we have [3:01:52] judicial [3:01:53] Justice [3:01:54] Caraman [3:01:55] that we [3:01:55] are dealing [3:01:56] with [3:01:56] Department [3:01:57] of [3:01:57] Justice [3:01:58] the [3:01:59] just [3:01:59] the same [3:02:00] today [3:02:00] as I [3:02:01] will send [3:02:01] the personnel [3:02:01] to check [3:02:02] thank you [3:02:03] director [3:02:03] yes [3:02:05] yes [3:02:05] may [3:02:05] comment [3:02:05] what was [3:02:08] mentioned [3:02:08] at maganda [3:02:09] po [3:02:10] tanan natin [3:02:12] that [3:02:12] DPSA [3:02:14] tapos [3:02:14] DFA [3:02:14] there is [3:02:15] already [3:02:16] work [3:02:16] being done [3:02:17] to address [3:02:18] noong [3:02:19] 1470 [3:02:21] sumiro [3:02:22] namin [3:02:22] na hininilang [3:02:23] tapos [3:02:24] mayroon [3:02:25] nilang [3:02:25] DFA [3:02:27] and there [3:02:27] are 13 [3:02:28] to a billion [3:02:29] possible [3:02:29] and [3:02:30] yung [3:02:32] seven [3:02:32] kinancel [3:02:33] na po [3:02:33] nila [3:02:33] yung [3:02:34] what [3:02:34] up [3:02:34] body [3:02:35] except [3:02:36] the [3:02:36] process [3:02:36] that [3:02:37] thing [3:02:37] ang [3:02:38] question [3:02:38] po [3:02:38] mab [3:02:38] kung [3:02:39] rapatin [3:02:40] po [3:02:40] yung [3:02:41] bang [3:02:41] sen [3:02:41] na [3:02:42] sen [3:02:42] mayroon [3:02:43] habol [3:02:44] judicially [3:02:45] or anything [3:02:46] kasi [3:02:47] if that [3:02:47] can be [3:02:48] that [3:02:48] because [3:02:49] that [3:02:49] is [3:02:50] the [3:02:50] power [3:02:51] of [3:02:51] DFA [3:02:52] to [3:02:53] cancel [3:02:53] apart [3:02:53] bakit [3:02:55] ako [3:02:56] doon [3:02:56] sa [3:02:56] sinasabi [3:02:56] ko [3:02:56] the [3:02:57] solutions [3:02:58] na [3:02:58] pwede [3:02:58] ng [3:02:59] immigration [3:03:00] itan [3:03:00] kung [3:03:02] gusto [3:03:02] nila [3:03:02] mag [3:03:02] habol [3:03:03] judicially [3:03:03] habol [3:03:04] sila [3:03:04] pero [3:03:05] in [3:03:05] likelihood [3:03:06] ang [3:03:06] pwedeng [3:03:07] mag [3:03:07] talaga [3:03:08] yung [3:03:08] tingin [3:03:08] nila [3:03:08] way [3:03:09] standing [3:03:09] kasi [3:03:09] dun sa [3:03:10] seven [3:03:11] na [3:03:11] kinansel [3:03:11] nila [3:03:12] po [3:03:12] that [3:03:13] can be [3:03:13] form [3:03:13] part [3:03:14] sa [3:03:14] evidence [3:03:14] can we [3:03:15] excluding [3:03:15] you [3:03:15] because [3:03:16] you're [3:03:16] an [3:03:16] desirable [3:03:16] alien [3:03:17] pumasok [3:03:17] ka rito [3:03:17] na [3:03:18] tour [3:03:18] tapos [3:03:19] nag [3:03:20] apply [3:03:20] ka [3:03:20] para [3:03:20] Pilipino [3:03:21] or [3:03:21] kasi [3:03:22] kasi [3:03:22] nila [3:03:22] yung [3:03:24] matter [3:03:26] of [3:03:26] evidence [3:03:26] kasi [3:03:27] during [3:03:27] the [3:03:28] proceeding [3:03:28] hindi [3:03:28] naman [3:03:29] arbitrary [3:03:29] yung [3:03:29] proceeding [3:03:30] ng [3:03:30] immigration [3:03:30] they [3:03:31] will [3:03:31] ask [3:03:32] to [3:03:32] present [3:03:32] their [3:03:33] evidence [3:03:33] mas [3:03:35] mabilis [3:03:35] na yung [3:03:35] action [3:03:36] na [3:03:37] dapat [3:03:37] talaga [3:03:38] may [3:03:40] masample [3:03:41] lang [3:03:41] talaga [3:03:41] na [3:03:41] inaalamat [3:03:42] natin [3:03:43] itong [3:03:43] tao [3:03:43] na to [3:03:43] yes [3:03:44] may masample [3:03:45] lang [3:03:45] out of [3:03:46] 39 [3:03:46] 7 [3:03:47] already [3:03:47] been [3:03:47] cancelled [3:03:48] yun po [3:03:49] yung [3:03:49] inaantay [3:03:49] natin [3:03:50] na [3:03:50] action [3:03:50] and [3:03:51] tuto [3:03:52] po [3:03:53] kami [3:03:53] yun [3:03:54] yung [3:03:54] hinihingi [3:03:54] namin [3:03:55] sabi [3:03:55] ko [3:03:55] kay [3:03:56] RD [3:03:56] doon [3:03:57] muna [3:03:57] tayo [3:03:57] sa [3:03:58] 1471 [3:03:59] huwag [3:04:00] na [3:04:00] muna [3:04:00] natin [3:04:01] punin [3:04:01] yung [3:04:01] buong [3:04:01] universe [3:04:02] yung [3:04:03] 1471 [3:04:04] may [3:04:06] pito [3:04:06] na [3:04:06] na [3:04:06] cancel [3:04:06] doon [3:04:07] tayo [3:04:07] naman [3:04:07] pa-exclude [3:04:08] naman [3:04:08] natin [3:04:08] sa [3:04:09] immigration [3:04:09] pauwi [3:04:10] na [3:04:10] natin [3:04:11] and [3:04:11] So again [3:04:24] whole of [3:04:24] government [3:04:25] approach [3:04:25] ang [3:04:26] pinag-emerge [3:04:26] pinag-usapan [3:04:27] natin [3:04:27] ano na po [3:04:29] yung status [3:04:29] sa judiciary [3:04:30] nitong [3:04:31] 7 [3:04:31] cases [3:04:31] We would [3:04:33] just like [3:04:33] to [3:04:34] clarify [3:04:34] that [3:04:35] these [3:04:36] are [3:04:36] the [3:04:37] 39 [3:04:38] are [3:04:39] well [3:04:39] Filipino [3:04:39] Nationals [3:04:41] we [3:04:43] not [3:04:44] and [3:04:45] the [3:04:45] passport [3:04:46] cancel [3:04:47] based [3:04:47] on [3:04:47] the [3:04:48] prudulent [3:04:49] documents [3:04:50] that [3:04:50] they [3:04:52] present [3:04:52] we [3:04:54] cannot [3:04:54] confirm [3:04:55] that [3:04:56] any [3:04:56] one [3:04:57] of [3:04:57] them [3:04:57] is [3:04:58] actually [3:04:58] an [3:04:58] SFN [3:04:59] but [3:05:00] they [3:05:00] are [3:05:01] filed [3:05:01] by [3:05:04] Filipino [3:05:05] citizens [3:05:05] so [3:05:06] there's [3:05:07] no [3:05:07] distinction [3:05:08] as [3:05:08] to [3:05:09] whether [3:05:09] they [3:05:10] are [3:05:11] but [3:05:12] they [3:05:12] are 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Senate Justice & Human Rights hearing on the case of Joseph Sy — November 5, 2026

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