Senate hearing on system loss charges, Epira — July 30

[1:13] and gentlemen on energy is hereby called to order today the committee convenes its second public [1:34] hearing in the proposed amendments the republic act number 9136 otherwise noticed the electric [1:40] power industry reform act of 2001. this hearing continues the committee's deliberation that [1:47] commenced during the first public hearing held on 23 july 2026. before we move on i'd like to [1:54] acknowledge the presence of uh my colleague senator jv during the first public hearing the committee [2:03] heard the presentations and recommendations of concerned government agencies in the malilla [2:08] electric company as the hearing was not completed the presentation of the remaining utilities industry [2:15] stakeholders consumer groups advocacy organizations will be taking off during today's proceeding [2:30] time on and pagtanggal o pagbaba sa systems laws na sinisingil sa ating mga consumers sa ganang [2:40] akin mas mainam natanggalin na yan upang mabawasan ang pansa pasamin ng ating mga kababayan ito po yung [2:48] gusto po ng pangulo but i also understand that this has repercussions not only to government revenue but [2:57] also to the power industry as a whole i'd also like to acknowledge the presence of uh senator senator [3:05] risa antiveros morning chair good morning today's hearing provides an opportunity to further examine [3:12] the proposed measures receive the views and recommendation of stakeholders and clarify issues [3:19] that may assist the committee on crafting responsive and effective legislative reforms with that may i ask our [3:30] my fellow senators if they have any uh statement to deliver senator jim yes thank you mr chair good [3:38] morning to my colleagues uh center tiberas our chair uh center are we doing first of all i'd like to thank [3:46] the chair for up uh for again calling this uh for continuing um the hearing on the amendments to the [3:54] epira and uh just the same also just like to command their colleague for including right away in this [4:06] morning city the bills on because of his privilege speech as uh in connection with the president's [4:16] state of the nation address regarding the system's laws in a samaray po mga ang agenda [4:22] sa agenda ngayong umaga bilang pagtugod dun sa nakarang state of the nation address si pangulong [4:30] pangbo marcos malinaw po ang kanyang naging mensahe at kagustuhan na mababa ang presyo ng kuryente [4:36] para sa bawat kami niyang pilipino ilan sa kanyang mga binanggit na polisiya gaya na nabanggit [4:43] ng ating chair ay ang pagtanggal ng systems laws at that sa bill ng ating kuryente [4:48] buong suporta po ang inyong lingkod sa panawagan ito as members of the senate we commit to do our part [4:54] in realizing this objective through the laws that we're about to pass through this committee [4:59] bilang tugon sa panawagan ng pangulo agad po natin file ang dalawang panukalang batas senate [5:04] bill number 2342 na naglalang tuloyan ang alisin ang recoverable systems laws at senate bill [5:11] number 2343 na magtatanggal naman sa pinapatawang the vats electric bill according to the department of [5:19] energy electricity bills could fall by five to ten percent if system losses are taken out of the [5:24] equation at present system loss caps set by the energy regulation commission are at 5.5 percent for [5:33] private distribution utilities and 8.25 percent for electric cooperatives ang argumento na kailangan [5:41] lagi ipasa sa consumers ang lahat ng gastos ay hindi na bago mula pa noong mga lumang power supply [5:49] at power purchase agreements agreements na pinasok ng gobyerno upang tugunan ang krisis sa kuryente [5:55] noong 19 early 1990s mr. chair na alala ko po yun yung ppa na nung panahopo ni pangulong ni fidel [6:04] ramos dahil po sa krisis na kinakaarap nagkaroon ng purchase power agreement para maitayo ka agad ang mga [6:11] power plants ngunit ilang taon ilang dekadang pinasan ng sambayanan yung mga enerhya kahit na hindi [6:21] po ginagamit ay ating po pinagbabayaran matagal po natin pinasan ang mga epekto ng ppa at hindi [6:29] po natin makakalimutan sanay natuto na tayo noong panahon na yun kaya kung may nagtatanong ngayon [6:36] kung sino ang sasalo sa system losses kapag hindi na ito pinasa sa consumers ang sagot ay hindi [6:42] ang ordinaryong pilipino tungkuri ng ating energy relegators na tiyakin na makahanap ng patas at [6:49] makataruang mekanismo hindi dapat pagbayarin ang mga consumer sa kuryente hindi nila nagamit at [6:56] wala sila pananagutan sa pagkakawala nito napakabigat na ho Mr. Chair ng ating pong [7:02] kinapasan sa araw-araw ngayon dahil sa krisis na kinakaarap nagkasabay-sabay mataas po ang [7:09] presyo ng bilihin mataas ang presyo ng kuryente dahil lahat tayo umaaray na no na itong mga huling buwan [7:15] dahil sa electric bills natin but consumers faithfully pay for every kilowatt hour of [7:22] electricity they consume they should not be made to pay for losses arising from outdated infrastructure [7:29] or operational inefficiency that are entirely beyond their control nilawin po natin ngayong araw ano ang [7:37] matching order ng Pangulo sa nalalabing dalawang taon ng kanyang panunungkulan bukod sa kanyang [7:42] directang mensahe na tanggalin na ang systems laws ganun din po ba ang magiging pulisya pagdating naman [7:50] sa VAT sa kuryente ayon sa DOE ang proposed VAT cut ay tubutukoy lamang sa charges para sa systems [7:57] laws at hindi sa buong electric bill ganito po ba ang not gusto nating legasya na iwan sa ating [8:03] makababayan tulungan po natin ang ating makababayan na maliwanagan sa konkretong [8:10] beneficyo na maari nilang asahan dapat natuto na tayo sa karanasan ng mga lumang power [8:16] purchase agreements naranasan natin na kapag ang lahat ng panganib at gastos ay [8:22] pinapasa sa consumers ang nagiging kuling tagabayan ay ang pamilyang [8:27] Pilipino hindi na dapat maulit yun beyond cheaper electricity bills the committee's goal should [8:33] be about institutional reform holding utility companies strictly accountable [8:37] and driving them to improve their operational efficiency the responsibility of minimizing [8:43] system losses should rest with the entities that own operate and manage the distribution [8:49] system and not without ordinary Filipino families already struggling with high electricity [8:56] costs and high costs of everyday everyday expenses our objective is clear consumers should only pay [9:06] for the electricity they actually use and the services they receive ang kuryente hindi mo nagamit [9:11] ay hindi mo dapat bayaran kaya nagpapasalamat ako Mr. Chair again for prioritizing these measures [9:17] no that are I would say corrective no sinibuan nyo na po doon sa oil regulation [9:24] ngayon po ay epira ngayon naman po ay systems dos kaya maraming salamat [9:29] ah ah ah chairman ah ah chairman ah Erwin Tulfo sa inyo pong magbigay prioridad [9:35] sa mga panukala pong ito maraming salamat at magandang umaga [9:39] Thank you Senator Hercito ah ah Senator ah Risa [9:44] Salamat Mr. Chair magandang umaga po sa lahat sa taas ng singil sa atin sa kuryente [9:53] nangunguna na ang Pilipinas sa buong ASEAN sa pinakamahal na residential electricity rate [10:03] at matapos ang 25 years ng epira hindi pa rin ito nakapaghatid ng pangakong mas murang kuryente [10:11] yan ang mga bagay na hindi dapat ipinagmamalaki [10:17] dahil habang tumataas ang singil sa kuryente sa bill na lang napupunta ang sweldo [10:23] dahil sa bill shock maraming napipilitang mamili kung alin ang uunahin [10:30] kuryente ba, pagkain, gamot o matrikula [10:36] kaya welcome ang malinaw na utos ng Pangulo sa SONA [10:40] alisin sa consumer ang systems loss charge at ang VAT nito [10:46] pinanghahawakan natin ang utos na yan bilang opisyal na direkso ng pamahalaan [10:53] maaaring maliit ang isang charge kapag tinignan sa isang bill [10:59] pero kapag kinuleta sa milyon-milyong tahanan buwan-buwan [11:04] bilyong-bilyong piso iyan [11:08] pero kung sakali isang linya lang sa bill ang mabubura [11:12] kung bubusisiin natin ang ating buong bill [11:17] mas malaking bahagin yan ang generation charge [11:22] kasama rito ang fuel at iba pang gastos ng industriya [11:27] na ipinapasalo sa consumer [11:30] ibig sabihin kung sa systems loss matatapos ang reforma [11:36] hindi pa rin mawawala ang totoong dahilan [11:40] kung bakit mahal ang kuryente natin sa bahay [11:44] kinikilala natin ang mga tunay at lehitimong gastos [11:50] sa paglikha at paghahatid ng kuryente [11:54] ngunit bago ito ipasok sa bill [11:58] dapat malinaw ang audit at batayan na yan talaga [12:02] ang pinakamakatarungang singil [12:05] Again, Mr. Chair, we welcome the order of the President [12:09] ngayon sundan sana ng aktual na bawas sa singil [12:14] na mararamdaman ng ating mga consumer [12:17] Salamat po [12:20] Thank you, Senator Risa Ontiveros [12:23] Before we move on in here [12:26] our resources [12:30] I would like to ask our Chairman of the Energy Regulatory Commission [12:38] Attorney Francis Juan [12:40] Narinit nyo naman po siguro [12:42] Attorney, Chairman, yung instruction po ng Pangulo [12:46] na it is a mission [12:50] our mission now [12:51] Pero I've been hearing after that [12:53] saw na yesterday [12:55] past few days na [12:56] medyo mahirap [12:59] malaking malulugi [13:01] malaking kabawasan [13:03] pag hinali systems law [13:05] 60 billion [13:06] mawawala sa mga distributors, generators, etc. [13:09] Your thoughts on this po? [13:14] Kung ito po ayaw nga ipag-uutos ng batas [13:16] na pamamagitan nga nga nga pag-amyanda [13:18] nga nga Section 43F [13:20] at hindi na maaaring masingil [13:24] yung gastusin [13:25] na associated dun sa system laws [13:28] Ito po ay aming i-implementa [13:31] ng buong buo [13:33] ng naaayon dun sa amyanda [13:35] Ang mga concerns nang po [13:37] na naglabasan [13:39] matapos nga po yung SONA [13:41] ay yung maaaring impact nito [13:43] sa operasyon ng ating mga distribution utilities [13:46] kasi ito pong system laws [13:49] ito ay associated [13:50] hindi dun sa kanyang negosyo [13:52] ng distribution [13:53] kundi dun sa pag-procure niya [13:56] ng generation ng supply [13:58] at ito naman ang kanyang [14:01] i-deliver o i-distribute [14:03] sa kanyang mga consumers [14:05] Dahil po dun sa prinsipyo [14:07] ng pass-through [14:08] na pinaiiral natin [14:09] ang mga distribution utilities [14:12] ay pinapayagan natin [14:13] sa kasalukuyan [14:14] na mabawi [14:15] yung gastusin na yun [14:17] na associated [14:18] dyan sa kuryenting [14:19] kinuha nila [14:20] mula sa generation companies [14:22] pero hindi na [14:24] actual na naihatid [14:25] sa mga distribution [14:27] sa mga customers nila [14:29] at kung ito po [14:30] ay gastus [14:32] na hindi naman maiwasan [14:34] yung mga technical losses [14:35] so kakailangan nilang po [14:37] ng pagdidesisyon [14:39] kung ano ang [14:40] magiging mekanismo na [14:42] para ito ay mapaghatian [14:44] o kuya yung burden [14:45] ay mapasan [14:46] hindi ng mga consumers [14:48] kundi ng ating mga utilities [14:50] o kaya naman [14:51] ay yung iba pang [14:52] stakeholders [14:53] sa ating [14:54] power sector [14:56] kasama na [14:57] ang generation [14:58] at transmission [14:59] Pero [15:01] Mr. Chairman [15:02] dalawang klase po [15:04] ang [15:05] systems laws [15:06] sa ilalim po nito [15:08] ay sa technical [15:09] yung sinasabi mo [15:11] law of physics [15:12] para pong walang iniwan yan [15:14] pag nag-order ako ako [15:15] isang restaurant [15:16] nag-order ako [15:18] ng isang blocking yelo [15:20] sa isang ice plant [15:21] pag dineliver po sa [15:25] restauran [15:26] lalo pag na-traffic pa [15:27] medyo natutunaw na po [15:29] bawas na po [15:30] di po ba [15:31] that's law of physics [15:33] pero meron din pong [15:34] non-technical [15:35] ang systems laws [15:37] ito po yung mga [15:38] pilperage [15:39] ito po yung mga [15:40] jumper [15:41] ito po yung mga [15:42] illegal connection [15:44] eh [15:45] na-charge din po [15:46] sa taong bayan [15:48] and I believe [15:49] this is not the problem [15:50] anymore [15:51] ng mga consumer [15:52] dapat sagot na po yun [15:54] ng distributor [15:55] kasi [15:56] ninakaw po sa kanya eh [15:58] kinuha po sa kanya [15:59] wala pong iniwan yan [16:01] and I will cite you [16:02] an example [16:03] siguro [16:04] Mr. Chairman [16:05] sa mga tindahan na lang po [16:08] yung nangyayari po ngayon [16:10] nagja-jumper [16:11] may mga pilferage [16:12] di po ba? [16:13] para sa tindahan niya po [16:15] may shoplifting [16:16] kailangan ba i-charge [16:19] sa tindahan dun sa customer [16:20] niya na susunod [16:21] ay nasapliftan kami [16:23] or internal theft [16:25] empleyado mismo yung [16:26] nagnakaw [16:27] eh babayaran [16:28] ng customer [16:29] so ito po yung [16:31] dapat pag-aralan din natin [16:32] ninyo po sa ERC [16:34] kasi po pwede [16:35] I was reviewing this [16:37] for the past 2 nights [16:38] nakita ko po pwede [16:40] systems laws po [16:41] doon po [16:42] sa non-technical [16:43] kasi po talagang [16:45] hindi naman po [16:46] law of physics yun eh [16:47] hindi po nag-i-vapority po ba? [16:50] will you agree with me? [16:51] na dapat [16:52] hindi na po i-charge ito [16:53] sa atin [16:54] itong non-technical [16:55] systems laws [16:56] your thoughts? [16:57] Opo [16:58] we [16:59] we agree to that [17:00] na [17:01] itong [17:02] non-technical [17:03] system laws [17:04] ito [17:05] may bahagi dito [17:06] na kontrolado [17:07] ng ating mga [17:08] distribution utilities [17:09] maaaring [17:10] pag-ibayuhin nila [17:12] ang pagbabantay [17:13] sa kanilang [17:14] distribution system [17:15] at [17:16] makita [17:17] kung mayroong [17:18] nagnanakaw [17:19] yung may mga [17:20] illegal [17:21] koneksyon [17:22] pero po [17:23] ito nga din [17:24] ang [17:25] pinakaunang [17:26] naging patayan [17:27] dun sa [17:28] RA 7832 [17:29] kaya ito nga pong [17:30] system laws caps [17:31] ay naunang nailagay [17:32] dyan [17:33] sa batas na yan [17:34] dahil ang layunin [17:35] talaga ng batas [17:36] ay mas mapababa [17:37] yung level [17:38] ng [17:39] non-technical [17:40] system laws [17:41] dahil ito nga pong [17:42] batas na ito [17:43] at nagkaroon [17:45] lang ng pagbabago [17:46] ito sa [17:47] epira [17:48] nung sinabi [17:49] na ang [17:50] ERC na [17:51] ang magdesisyon [17:52] ng [17:53] pagtatakda [17:54] ng system laws cap [17:55] pero nilagay dun [17:56] yung mga batayan [17:57] yung mga [17:58] konsiderasyon [17:59] na aming dapat [18:00] nasundin [18:01] ito yung mga [18:02] technical consideration [18:03] so [18:04] parang lumalabas [18:05] nga din po [18:06] doon sa epira [18:07] na maaaring [18:08] tingnan [18:09] itong [18:10] non-technical [18:11] system laws [18:12] at [18:13] magkaroon [18:14] ng [18:15] regulasyon [18:16] para ito [18:17] ay [18:18] ma-minimize na [18:19] ang pangungolekta [18:20] sa mga consumers po [18:22] Thank you Mr. Chair [18:23] Go ahead [18:24] Pwede na makasigit na [18:25] Mr. Chef Bago [18:26] kasi ayoko na iwanan [18:27] maganda yung in-open [18:28] nyo po [18:29] kasi napansin ko po rin noon [18:31] dati pag mayroong [18:32] mga nagja-jumper [18:33] nabanggit nyo [18:34] mga illegal connection [18:35] hinahabol po yun [18:36] at saka hinahabla [18:37] pero ngayon [18:38] dahil siguro [18:39] dahil [18:40] dito sa systems [18:41] eh hindi na hinahabol [18:43] wala na rin [18:44] nag-ahabla [18:45] kasi [18:46] nababawi na ng [18:47] mga distribution [18:48] electric companies [18:49] yung [18:50] nawala nila [18:51] pero dapat [18:52] matuto [18:53] dahil [18:54] naalala ko po to Mr. Chairman [18:55] Mayor Popov [18:56] nagtataka ko noon [18:57] nagtataka kami [18:59] bakit yung isang utility namin [19:01] ang taas ng electric bill [19:03] so nung pinahanap ko sa engineering department namin [19:09] nung pinutol [19:10] yung buong barangay halos nawala ng kuryente [19:12] pero hinahanap nun [19:14] inaalam natin [19:15] kasi hindi dapat [19:17] pasanim [19:18] ng mga ibang consumer [19:19] halimbawa [19:20] in this case [19:21] yung mga taxpayer [19:22] ng San Juan [19:23] yung bagay [19:24] na hindi silang gumamit [19:26] so yun ang [19:27] ramahuyo [19:28] kaya ko sumingit [19:29] Mr. Chair [19:30] dahil yung in-open nyo po [19:31] eh parang [19:32] napansin ko [19:33] hindi na naghahabol [19:34] ng mga nagja-jumper [19:35] mga naging illegal connection [19:37] kasi nga po [19:38] nababawi niyata [19:39] dahil sa systems loss [19:40] pero hindi dapat maging responsibilidad [19:43] ng mga ordinary mamamayan [19:45] na hindi nila ginamit [19:48] Thank you [19:49] Senator JV [19:51] and [19:52] sa [19:53] mga electric cooperative naman [19:57] attorney [19:58] Lee [19:59] you're from NIA right? [20:02] di po ba parang [20:04] 8 to 12 percent [20:05] ang systems loss [20:06] sa mga electric cooperative [20:07] correct me if I'm wrong [20:08] and [20:09] and out of that [20:10] mas malaki po yung mga non-technical [20:13] sa mga pilferage [20:15] ang report po sa inyo [20:16] are your findings [20:17] non-technical [20:18] yung mga [20:19] ah [20:20] jumper [20:21] illegal connection [20:22] di po ba [20:23] kung masayos lamang po siguro yan [20:25] ng mga electric cooperative natin [20:26] bababa din po [20:27] ng halos 8 percent po [20:29] yung siguro ng [20:30] ah [20:31] ah [20:32] ikang ah [20:33] ah [20:34] systems loss na yan [20:35] tama po ba [20:36] ah [20:37] attorney Lee [20:38] Good morning Mr. Chair [20:40] and to the honorable members [20:41] of the committee on energy [20:43] yes Mr. Chair [20:46] in fact [20:47] NIA [20:48] is monitoring [20:49] the system loss [20:51] data [20:52] submitted by [20:53] our electric cooperatives [20:55] in that regard [20:56] generally [20:57] ah [20:58] part of the bill [20:59] the system loss [21:00] which is [21:01] ah [21:03] ah [21:06] reflected [21:07] in the bill [21:08] generally is about [21:09] five percent [21:11] however the [21:12] data submitted [21:13] to the national electrification [21:15] by our electric cooperatives [21:17] across the country [21:18] is verified [21:19] by the [21:20] ERC [21:21] uh [21:22] at present [21:23] there is [21:24] the clustering [21:25] provided by [21:26] the ERC [21:27] through a resolution [21:28] that [21:29] uh [21:30] identifies [21:31] uh [21:32] the the different [21:33] caps [21:35] for [21:36] if i may mention [21:37] example for [21:38] off-grid [21:39] the cup is [21:40] twelve percent [21:41] that is allowable [21:42] now if our electric cooperatives [21:44] goes beyond the cup [21:45] then it is the electric cooperative [21:47] that shoulders it [21:48] but still eternally [21:51] i mean [21:52] ah [21:53] to twelve percent [21:54] medyo malaki po yun [21:55] lalo na pag sa mga [21:56] probinsya no [21:57] ah [21:58] kung aalisin po [21:59] yung non-technical [22:00] kasi ang malaking part po yata [22:02] sa twelve percent cap [22:03] na yun [22:04] eh [22:05] nasa non-technical [22:06] ah [22:07] inapailiwan [22:09] napaliwanag po sa [22:10] atin yan [22:11] ng ilang po mga engineer [22:13] kasi nga po yung [22:15] the reason why i learned about it [22:16] ah [22:17] dalawang klase po pala [22:18] yung systems loss [22:19] yung yung sinasabing [22:20] ah [22:21] non-technical [22:22] or technical [22:23] talaga [22:24] na [22:25] nag-evaporate lang [22:26] because of physics [22:27] pero yung non-technical [22:29] yun ang malaki-laki [22:30] sa mga electric cooperative eh [22:32] dahil kulang yung mga linya [22:34] may mga jumper [22:36] so kung aalisin po yung systems loss na yan [22:39] ah [22:40] yung non-technical [22:41] na malaki pong kabawasan sa bill ng mga kababayan po natin [22:44] sa mga puri-pubinsya [22:46] hindi po ba? [22:47] yes [22:48] ah [22:49] ah [22:50] ah [22:51] ah [22:52] ah [22:53] ah [22:54] ah [22:55] ah [22:56] ah [22:58] ah [22:59] ah [23:00] ah [23:01] ah [23:02] ah [23:03] ah [23:04] ah [23:05] ah [23:06] ah [23:07] ah [23:08] ah [23:09] ah [23:10] ah [23:11] ah [23:12] ah [23:13] ah [23:14] ah [23:15] ah [23:16] ah [23:17] ah [23:18] ah [23:19] ah [23:20] ah [23:22] ah [23:23] ah [23:25] ah [23:26] ah [23:28] ah [23:29] ah [23:30] ah [23:31] ah [23:32] ah [23:33] ah [23:34] ah [23:35] ah [23:36] ah [23:37] ah [23:39] ah [23:40] ah [23:41] ah [23:42] now hear from the remaining representatives of the utility sector industry association [23:47] consumer and advocacy groups who are unable to present during the first public hearing [23:53] we respectfully request all resource persons and representatives to please limit your [23:59] presentations to three minutes yes limit their presentation to three minutes unless otherwise [24:11] recognized by the chair for more detailed presentation go ahead senator riza salamat [24:16] mr. chair bago lang po yung iba natin resource persons follow up po dun sa unang topic sabi nga [24:23] po ni well and the quick observation i agree na dapat iba ang treatment natin sa mga electric co-ops [24:31] kahit sa usapin ng systems loss charge umpara sa treatment sa private distributors for the simple [24:38] fact na ang electric co-ops ay non-profit entities at sila po yung nagpubukas at unang nagsiserve [24:45] sa mga missionary roots so but the final upon dun sa unang line of questioning sinabi nyo nga po [24:54] chair juan na kung ipag-uutos ng batas itutupad ng buo ng erc yung pagtanggal sa systems [25:05] loss charge at yung vat doon pero meron nang sabi ko nga kanina malinaw na policy direction [25:12] na hiningi ang presidente sa amin dito sa kongreso so mr. chair gusto ko rin itanong sa do e parang [25:20] mixed signals kasi yung narinig in the past few days pagkatapos nung sinabing iyon ni presidente [25:26] sa zona so aside from erc on the part of do e meron din po bang mga hesitation or even resistance [25:36] on the part of the department o na naobserbahan nyo sa ibang mga stakeholders [25:41] good morning good morning chair um the part of the do e we're in support of course of the [25:48] directive of the president that's why immediately the secretary called for meetings with the erc and [25:54] nanea on how to handle this and we have learned that there are really some um um items that we [26:03] need to discuss further so that we do not um unnecessarily have a negative effect on the [26:10] industry as a whole so we have identified already as as mentioned there are two different kinds of [26:16] technique uh of systems of the technical and non-technical and we do intend to work with the [26:22] other agencies and the stakeholders in order to lessen the these systems caused by infrastructure [26:31] collection efficiency and by giving the assistance necessary to the e-system to be able to put up their [26:39] the unnecessary infrastructure in order to avoid these technical losses thank you and based uh mr [26:47] chair you sick on at least the new initial meetings paano boi paano po ipa tutupad at paano i [26:52] operationalize ng doe young policy direction na sinep uh sa sona actually ma'am initially we would be [27:01] giving instructions as far as the non-technical losses are concerned in order to give them the direction [27:09] uh they would have to be as mentioned by the chair to be more vigilant in the in watching out for the [27:17] uh filterage in the by under the under the ra that has been in 1994 maybe it's something that we have [27:27] to also consider um in this discussion we have to adjust already the with the help of the erc on what [27:37] is actually allowable because what's what's happening is um they there is a range and anything that is [27:44] beyond that alam na rin nila as a parang self-regulating now if you go beyond that but it's so it's really [27:52] determining what is the optimized or the the appropriate percentage that should be allowed that should only [28:00] cover mostly by the technical losses rather than the non-tech so we're we'll be coordinating of course with [28:08] nea and as you have mentioned um madam that there are some in intricacies and so far as treatment [28:16] between the private views and the ac so the the objective is for erc to actually have the [28:26] appropriate rate that would be applicable for each and every day and cooperative you said mr chair [28:35] did you mention 20 94 1994 19 sorry sorry okay po 1994 oh kasi uh at nabangit [28:43] nyo rin po yung erc so uh chair juan uh mr chair may timeline na po ba kung kailan maaasahan [28:51] nung ating mga consumers itong uh pagpapatupad ng tanggal no systems loss charge at vat sa charge na [28:59] yan sa ating mga bills ang ginagawa po namin ngayon while nagihintay kung ano ang magiging final na [29:08] version ng pag amyanda sa ipira ay tinitignan po kung paano pa mas mapapababa yung cap at ano yung [29:16] reasonable mga bagong cap na maaaring ipatupad para sa ating mga distribution utilities tinitignan din po [29:24] namin yung non-technical system loss yung component na yan na kung maaari nang bawasan pa nang mas [29:32] malaki ang pagbawas kasi nga ito po ay within the control of course uh healing din kami syempre na [29:39] matingnan din natin yung original na batas yung anti-filtration app dahil po um gustuhin man ang ating ilang [29:47] mga distribution utilities na talagang ah ah manghuli pero po may mga proseso din kasi na sinusunod sa [29:56] panguhuli nila at kadalasan kung meron silang isang mamali na pagsunod dun sa proseso na halimbawa ay yung [30:03] pagsasama ng isang offer officer of the law dun sa inspection that would lead to the uh uh discovery of the [30:12] illegal connection kapagka po wala yun hindi po ma hindi po mapinalize yung ah consumer na yun na [30:20] nagnanakaw ng kuryente so maaaring din po tingnan natin ah yung batas na yun nang sa ganon ay [30:26] magkaroon din naman ng kaukulang ah parusa doon sa mga consumers na nagnanakaw ng kuryente dahil po ang [30:33] lumalabas din ngayon ang ang erc pa ang nagagamit para maproteksyonal itong mga ganitong klaseng ah gawain dahil [30:42] po kung sila na ay ah ah hinahapon ng kanilang utility ang gagawin lang po nila ay magpapail sa [30:49] amin ng consumer complaint at mahihinto na yung ah apprehension at yung ah ah disconnection at sa [30:57] kalaunan kung meron talaga silang hindi nasunod dun sa proseso ng apprehension ay wala kaming choice [31:03] but to ah declare na yung panguhuli na yun ay hindi na ayon sa batas so ito po yung mga ginagawa namin at [31:11] base dun sa datos na nakarating sa amin tinignan po namin ang performance ng bawat utility para po [31:18] sa mga private utilities as of ah 2024 nagdatos nila tinignan po namin from 2020 to 2024 mayroong ah ah [31:27] walo na na mga distribution utilities ang nag-ooperate within the cap at ah meron pa rin [31:32] labing dalawa na hindi sa mga eases na may ah 12% na system loss marami dito ang nasa [31:39] within the cap na of ah 12% labing isa versus yung tatlo na over the cap sa easy cluster 2 yung 10.25 na cap [31:48] 42 ang within the cap at may 31 ang wala at dun sa easy cluster 3 na 8.25 ang feeder system loss cap mayroong tatlo na within the cap at apat na nasa labas [32:01] so ibig sabihin po tinitingnan namin kung saan pa namin pwede na itong mga caps na ito ay mas mas mapapaba [32:09] nang sa ganun ay habang naghihintay doon sa pag amyenda ng batas na talagang magtatanggal na sa system loss [32:17] ay naibaba na natin kahit paano yung gastusin na ito ng ating mga consumers [32:21] pero po tinitingnan din namin kung ano pa yung mga nakapending sa amin na capex applications [32:26] kasi marami rin po na nung mga nakarang taon na nakapending sa amin na capex applications [32:31] na mga distribution utilities na ang purpose ay patungkos sa pagpabababa ng kanina system loss [32:37] at kung ito ay aming maaksyonan at ang ating mga distribution utilities ay makapagsagawa [32:42] itong mga capex projects na ito ay mas mapapababa nila [32:46] so ang apin po iniisip ay kung ibababa natin o tatanggalin ng system loss [32:52] ay bigyan natin ng abilidad o resources ang ating mga distribution utilities [32:56] para mang sa ganun ay makapag-operate pa rin sila viably [33:00] at hindi maapektuhan yung serviso naman sa consumers [33:03] Well Chair, Mr. Chair, bukod sa binanggit niyong parusa sa consumers [33:08] kasi ngayon palang parusa na sa consumers yung taas ng presyo ng kuryente [33:13] later on po ipursue ko yung matters tungkol sa technical systems losses [33:21] bukod po sa non-technical systems losses [33:25] at ipurpursue ko na rin po mamaya yung usapin ng cap [33:29] including possible price cap sa tulong ng ating mga resource persons [33:36] So that's it for now, Mr. Chair, itutuloy ko na lang po mamaya [33:40] Salamat po, Mr. Chair [33:41] Thank you, Senator Risa [33:43] Mabilisan lang po ng question [33:45] I would like to get your opinion [33:46] Attorney Juan, Yusek Inusensio, Attorney Lee [33:49] Bakit hinayaan po natin? [33:52] Bakit hinayaan ninyo na singilin ang singilin ng taong bayan [33:58] ng systems loss [33:59] doon na lang sa non-technical [34:01] Yung technical, naintindihan ko po [34:04] law of physics po yun [34:05] parang yelo, natutunaw [34:06] Pero yung non-technical [34:09] yung bilferage [34:10] yung jumper [34:11] yung illegal connection [34:14] Bakit hinayaan nyo [34:15] ang mga distribution companies [34:18] na singilin kaming taong bayan [34:21] na hindi naman namin kasalanan [34:23] na tayo ay pinaparusahan [34:25] yung isang consumer [34:27] dahil ninakawan si Meralco [34:29] o si whoever it is [34:31] sa distribution utilities [34:32] e babawiin sa amin [34:34] Why did you not act on it? [34:38] Why did you not do anything about it? [34:40] For several years [34:42] Ngayon lang po na-discovery [34:43] na meron palang ganito [34:45] na sinisingil kami [34:47] ng systems loss [34:48] ng non-technical [34:50] dahil may pilferage [34:52] dahil may illegal metering [34:54] may nagja-jumper [34:56] Hinayaan lang po natin [34:58] Did we do something about it? [35:01] Kung hindi pa nabanggit ngayon [35:02] Kung hindi pa nabanggit sa Sona [35:04] Kung hindi pa nagkaroon ng hearing [35:06] itong Committee on Energy last week [35:10] Hindi natin matatalisod ito [35:11] Bakit po? [35:12] Nahinayaan natin [35:14] Parang nag-we reneak on our duties [35:17] Dapat po [35:21] Trabaho nyo po ito [35:23] na teka muna [35:24] Bakit yung sisingilin [35:25] distribution utility sa mga tao [35:27] sa kapalpakan ninyo [35:29] nag-illegal metering [35:31] nag-jumper [35:32] sisingilin nyo [35:33] itong consumer na ito [35:35] paparusahan nyo itong consumer [35:36] Why is that? [35:37] Why did we just [35:38] let it go for several years? [35:41] Can you explain [35:42] that po [35:43] Attorney Juan? [35:45] Gaya po ng [35:46] nasabi ko [35:47] Mr. Chair [35:48] Ito pong [35:49] pagkakaroon natin [35:50] ng system loss cap [35:51] ay nagsimula [35:52] at nababatay doon [35:53] sa anti-pilferage [35:54] act [35:56] noong [35:56] 1990s pa [35:58] o ito yung [35:58] RA 7832 [36:00] at ang layunin nga po [36:02] nung pagkakaroon ng cap [36:03] at yung pagpapababa [36:04] ng cap na ito [36:05] legislated cap ito [36:07] over time [36:07] ay ibinaba [36:08] ay para [36:09] mapababa [36:10] ng mapababa [36:11] yung gastusin [36:12] relating to [36:13] pilferage [36:13] kaya nga po [36:14] anti-pilferage [36:15] so ibig sabihin po [36:16] dun sa batas [36:17] na yan mismo [36:18] dun sa pulisiya [36:19] na nakapaloob [36:21] dyan sa batas [36:21] na yan [36:22] ay pinapayagan [36:23] this is a legitimate [36:25] cost [36:25] pero [36:26] subject to [36:27] a limit [36:28] at ito nga po [36:29] ang [36:30] aming [36:31] tinutukoy [36:32] ngayon [36:32] sa pag-aaral [36:34] ng [36:34] kung ano yung [36:35] nararapat na [36:36] cap [36:37] bagong cap [36:38] kung itong [36:39] para sa [36:40] non-technical [36:41] loss [36:42] ay totally [36:43] pwede na nating [36:44] ma-zero [36:44] ang kapara dito [36:46] nang sa ganon [36:47] ay wala na po [36:47] talaga [36:48] maragiging recovery [36:49] Thank you [36:51] Ito po yung hinahanap [36:52] natin [36:53] ng committee na ito [36:54] siguro unahin na po [36:55] natin itong [36:56] non-technical [36:56] itong mga [36:57] pilferage [36:58] illegal metering [36:59] tampering [37:00] huwag na pong isingil [37:02] sa mga kababayan natin [37:03] pati yung bat na ito [37:04] anyway moving on [37:06] let us now hear [37:08] the representative [37:11] from [37:11] the first gen [37:13] corporation [37:14] you have [37:14] three minutes [37:15] okay [37:19] san miguel [37:19] global power [37:20] holdings [37:21] corporation [37:21] you have [37:22] three minutes [37:23] please [37:24] Mr. Chair [37:28] Senators [37:30] Anteveos [37:31] and Senator [37:32] M.C. [37:33] Good morning [37:33] thank you [37:34] for [37:34] having us [37:36] at this [37:37] hearing [37:39] we support [37:41] any [37:42] and [37:42] any measure [37:44] that will [37:44] strengthen [37:45] government [37:46] institutions [37:48] such as [37:49] the [37:49] ARC [37:49] and we [37:50] certainly [37:51] support [37:52] any [37:52] measure [37:53] that will [37:54] help [37:54] the [37:55] consumers [37:55] thank you [37:57] sir [37:57] that will [37:58] be [37:58] all for [37:59] us [37:59] for [37:59] this [38:00] time [38:00] thank you [38:01] thank you [38:01] very much [38:02] san [38:02] miguel [38:03] global [38:03] power [38:03] holdings [38:04] corporation [38:05] comsec [38:05] who's [38:05] next [38:06] national [38:07] grid [38:08] corporation [38:08] of the [38:09] philippines [38:09] you have [38:10] three minutes [38:11] good morning [38:11] mr. [38:12] chairman [38:12] may i call [38:13] on our [38:13] assistant corporate [38:14] secretary [38:15] attorney [38:15] conception [38:16] to do [38:16] to do [38:16] the [38:16] opening [38:17] statement [38:17] a short [38:17] one [38:18] please [38:19] morning [38:23] mr. [38:24] chairman [38:24] the [38:25] morning [38:25] to the [38:26] members [38:26] of the [38:26] committee [38:28] on energy [38:29] of the [38:29] senate [38:29] the [38:32] national [38:33] grid [38:33] corporation [38:33] of the [38:34] philippines [38:34] and its [38:35] capacity [38:35] as the [38:35] country's [38:36] transmission [38:36] network [38:37] provider [38:37] and system [38:38] operator [38:39] expresses [38:39] its [38:40] gratitude [38:40] for the [38:41] opportunity [38:41] to participate [38:42] in this [38:43] important [38:43] discussion [38:44] on ensuring [38:45] that [38:45] electricity [38:46] remains [38:47] affordable [38:47] reliable [38:48] and accessible [38:49] to [38:50] Filipino [38:50] consumers [38:51] NGCP [38:52] fully [38:53] supports [38:53] efforts [38:54] to [38:54] enhance [38:54] the [38:55] performance [38:55] of the [38:56] Philippine [38:56] electric [38:57] power [38:57] industry [38:58] and [38:58] strengthen [38:59] the [38:59] institutions [39:00] tasked [39:00] with [39:01] safeguarding [39:02] the [39:02] public [39:02] interest [39:03] as the [39:04] operator [39:04] of the [39:05] transmission [39:05] highway [39:06] that [39:06] connects [39:06] power [39:07] generators [39:08] distribution [39:09] utilities [39:09] and end [39:10] users [39:10] across the [39:11] country [39:11] we [39:12] recognize [39:13] that [39:13] the [39:13] stable [39:14] regulatory [39:15] environment [39:16] sound [39:17] market [39:17] design [39:18] and [39:18] coordinated [39:18] energy [39:19] planning [39:19] are [39:20] essential [39:20] in [39:21] achieving [39:21] energy [39:22] security [39:22] and [39:23] economic [39:23] growth [39:23] from [39:25] our [39:25] perspective [39:25] the [39:26] challenges [39:27] facing [39:28] the [39:28] power [39:28] sector [39:29] today [39:29] are [39:29] multifaceted [39:30] while [39:31] the [39:32] transmission [39:32] network [39:32] continues [39:33] to [39:33] expand [39:34] and [39:34] modernize [39:35] the [39:36] sector [39:36] must [39:36] also [39:37] address [39:37] concerns [39:38] relating [39:38] to [39:38] generation [39:39] adequacy [39:40] investment [39:41] certainty [39:42] regulatory [39:43] efficiency [39:44] transmission [39:45] permitting [39:46] right-of-way [39:47] acquisition [39:48] and the [39:49] timely [39:49] completion [39:50] of [39:50] critical [39:51] energy [39:51] infrastructure [39:52] these [39:54] factors [39:54] collectively [39:55] affect [39:55] the [39:55] affordability [39:56] reliability [39:57] and [39:57] accessibility [39:58] of [39:59] electricity [39:59] services [40:00] NGCP [40:02] believes [40:02] that [40:02] reforms [40:03] should [40:03] be [40:03] guided [40:04] by [40:04] the [40:04] principles [40:04] of [40:05] transparency [40:05] competition [40:06] regulatory [40:08] independence [40:09] operational [40:10] efficiency [40:10] and [40:11] consumer [40:11] welfare [40:12] we [40:13] likewise [40:13] recognize [40:14] the crucial [40:14] role [40:15] of the [40:15] energy [40:15] regulatory [40:16] commission [40:16] in [40:17] maintaining [40:18] a [40:18] fair [40:18] predictable [40:19] and [40:20] responsive [40:20] regulatory [40:21] framework [40:22] that [40:23] balances [40:23] the [40:24] interests [40:24] of [40:24] investors [40:25] and [40:25] consumers [40:26] while [40:27] ensuring [40:27] the [40:28] continued [40:28] development [40:29] of [40:29] critical [40:29] energy [40:30] infrastructure [40:31] as [40:32] discussions [40:33] proceed [40:33] on [40:33] proposed [40:34] amendments [40:34] to the [40:35] electric [40:35] power [40:35] industry [40:36] reform [40:36] act [40:36] including [40:38] measures [40:38] relating [40:39] to [40:39] market [40:39] competition [40:40] cross [40:41] ownership [40:41] restrictions [40:42] public [40:43] ownership [40:44] participation [40:44] and the [40:45] strengthening [40:45] of [40:46] regulatory [40:46] oversight [40:47] NGCP [40:48] remains [40:49] committed [40:49] to [40:49] providing [40:50] technical [40:50] inputs [40:51] based [40:51] on [40:52] our [40:52] operational [40:53] experience [40:54] as [40:54] the [40:54] nation's [40:54] transmission [40:55] service [40:56] provider [40:56] and [40:57] system [40:57] operator [40:58] ultimately [40:59] our [41:00] shared [41:00] objective [41:00] is [41:01] clear [41:01] to [41:02] ensure [41:02] that [41:02] every [41:03] Filipino [41:03] has [41:03] access [41:04] to [41:04] reliable [41:05] secure [41:05] affordable [41:06] and [41:07] sustainable [41:07] electricity [41:08] that [41:09] supports [41:09] national [41:10] development [41:10] and improves [41:11] quality [41:12] of life [41:12] thank you [41:13] and we [41:13] look forward [41:14] to [41:14] contributing [41:15] constructively [41:15] to the [41:16] deliberations [41:17] thank you [41:17] mr. [41:17] general [41:18] i have [41:19] one [41:19] question [41:20] attorney [41:20] how [41:21] come [41:21] sa [41:21] misaya [41:22] sa [41:22] may [41:22] sebu [41:23] area [41:23] may [41:24] binabayaran [41:25] pa po [41:25] ang mga [41:26] consumer [41:27] natin [41:27] doon [41:27] parang [41:28] nagre-renta [41:29] ng linya [41:30] dahil [41:30] kulang [41:31] daw [41:31] what do [41:32] you call [41:32] that [41:33] attorney [41:33] lee [41:34] from [41:35] naya [41:35] meron [41:36] pong [41:36] ganun [41:37] eh [41:37] na [41:37] line [41:40] rental [41:40] kasi [41:41] daw [41:41] po [41:42] ng [41:42] gcp [41:43] kulang [41:44] po [41:44] yung [41:44] inyong [41:45] infrastructure [41:46] kaya [41:47] nga [41:47] po [41:47] kayo [41:48] nandyan [41:48] kaya [41:49] binigay [41:49] sa inyo [41:50] thinking [41:51] nagpaginawa [41:52] ng [41:52] privatize [41:53] po [41:54] yan [41:54] yung [41:54] linya [41:55] eh [41:56] marami [41:56] kayo [41:57] mga [41:57] lahat [41:57] pero [41:57] line [41:58] rental [41:58] magbabayad [41:59] ba yung [42:00] tao [42:00] may [42:00] babayaran [42:01] na siya [42:01] sa [42:01] cebu [42:02] na [42:02] systems [42:03] laws [42:04] may [42:04] babayaran [42:05] para [42:05] line [42:06] rental [42:06] problema [42:07] ba [42:07] ng [42:07] consumer [42:09] yung [42:10] pati [42:10] linya [42:11] ng [42:11] kuryente [42:11] babaya [42:12] alam [42:13] alam [42:13] nyo [42:13] i'm [42:14] very [42:14] disappointed [42:15] in [42:15] abuso [42:16] nyo [42:16] yung [42:17] mga [42:17] consumer [42:18] kasi [42:19] walang [42:20] imig [42:20] si [42:20] Juan [42:20] si [42:21] Maria [42:21] can [42:22] you [42:22] explain [42:23] that [42:23] to [42:23] us [42:24] ng [42:24] gcp [42:25] pati [42:25] line [42:25] rental [42:26] simisingil [42:28] sa [42:28] consumer [42:29] how [42:30] please [42:32] please [42:32] explain [42:33] thank you [42:33] mr. [42:34] chair [42:34] just to [42:35] clarify [42:36] the line [42:36] rental [42:37] is actually [42:37] a misnomer [42:38] any line [42:40] rental [42:40] paid [42:40] is not [42:41] actually [42:41] paid [42:42] to [42:42] ngcp [42:43] but [42:43] it's [42:43] the [42:43] cost [42:44] it's [42:44] a [42:44] premium [42:44] on [42:45] electricity [42:45] that [42:46] is [42:46] cost [42:46] when [42:47] a line [42:47] is [42:48] technically [42:49] overbooked [42:50] because [42:50] there [42:51] is [42:51] a [42:51] power [42:52] plant [42:53] that [42:53] goes [42:53] offline [42:53] so [42:54] that [42:54] sources [42:55] from [42:55] outside [42:56] but [42:56] it's [42:57] almost [42:58] every [42:58] month [42:58] sa [42:59] mga [42:59] power [42:59] bills [43:00] po [43:00] na [43:00] nakarating [43:01] sa akin [43:01] nagsumbong [43:02] po [43:02] sa email [43:02] ko [43:03] mga [43:03] tiga [43:03] Cebu [43:04] na [43:05] they're [43:06] paying [43:06] for that [43:06] sino [43:07] po [43:07] binabayaran [43:07] nila [43:08] ng line [43:08] rental [43:08] it's [43:09] a premium [43:09] po [43:10] on [43:10] generation [43:10] yun [43:11] yun [43:11] na [43:12] po [43:12] eh [43:12] kasi [43:12] nga [43:13] ang [43:13] sinisisi [43:13] naman [43:14] ng [43:14] mga [43:14] generator [43:15] distributor [43:16] eh [43:17] kulang [43:18] po [43:18] yung [43:18] facility [43:18] kaya [43:18] nagre-rental [43:19] dahil [43:19] nagkaklag [43:20] na [43:20] raw [43:20] dahil [43:21] sa [43:21] dami [43:21] ng [43:22] gumagamit [43:22] eh [43:23] ang [43:23] tanong [43:23] natin [43:24] bakit [43:25] hindi [43:25] hunin [43:25] yung [43:25] dagdagan [43:26] yung [43:26] linya [43:27] para [43:27] wala [43:28] na [43:28] po [43:28] tayong [43:28] line [43:28] rental [43:29] Diyos [43:30] ko [43:30] Panginoon [43:30] kumbayan [43:31] meron [43:32] ng [43:32] systems [43:33] laws [43:34] may [43:34] babayaran [43:35] pa [43:35] siyang [43:35] line [43:36] rental [43:36] patong [43:37] patong [43:38] na [43:38] po [43:38] yung [43:39] yung [43:39] binabayaran [43:41] niya [43:43] Mr. [43:43] Chair [43:43] natitrigger [43:44] po yung [43:45] line [43:45] rental [43:45] quote [43:46] unquote [43:46] pag [43:47] nagkaroon [43:48] po [43:48] tayo [43:48] ng [43:49] unplanned [43:49] shutdown [43:50] ng [43:50] mga [43:50] planta [43:51] kaya [43:51] po [43:52] nagugulo [43:52] yung [43:52] balance [43:53] ng [43:53] pagpasahan [43:53] ng [43:54] kuryente [43:54] pag [43:55] nag-off [43:55] po [43:56] yung [43:56] isang [43:56] planta [43:56] na [43:57] wala [43:57] sa [43:57] schedule [43:58] kailangan [43:58] po [43:59] tayong [43:59] mag-source [43:59] sa [43:59] ibang [44:00] lugar [44:00] kaya [44:01] doon [44:01] po [44:01] nawawala [44:02] yung [44:02] balance [44:02] it's [44:03] a little [44:03] bit [44:03] more [44:04] pronounced [44:05] po [44:05] sa [44:05] Visayas [44:06] dahil [44:06] puro [44:06] isla [44:07] po [44:07] sila [44:07] so [44:08] yung [44:08] pangunahing [44:10] sanhin [44:11] ng [44:11] line [44:11] rental [44:11] would [44:12] be [44:12] yung [44:13] sa [44:13] interconnections [44:14] so [44:14] pag [44:14] meron [44:15] pong [44:15] planta [44:16] na [44:16] nag-offline [44:17] at [44:17] kailangan [44:18] pong [44:18] kumuha [44:19] sa [44:19] ibang [44:19] lugar [44:19] makakaroon [44:20] po [44:20] sila [44:21] ng [44:21] premium [44:22] on [44:22] that [44:22] other [44:23] source [44:24] pero [44:25] hindi [44:25] po [44:25] sa [44:25] NGCP [44:26] na pupunta [44:26] yung [44:26] premium [44:27] na yon [44:27] okay [44:27] thank [44:28] you [44:28] attorney [44:28] juan [44:30] thank [44:31] you [44:31] mr. [44:32] chair [44:32] para [44:32] lang [44:33] mabigyan [44:33] ng [44:34] konting [44:34] background [44:35] dito [44:35] sa [44:35] issue [44:36] ng [44:36] line [44:36] rental [44:37] or [44:37] line [44:38] loss [44:38] at [44:38] congestion [44:39] cost [44:39] ito [44:40] na [44:40] po [44:40] yung [44:40] tawag [44:41] sa [44:41] kanya [44:41] ngayon [44:41] LLCC [44:42] nakita [44:44] po [44:44] ng [44:44] komisyon [44:45] yan [44:45] a few [44:47] years [44:47] ago [44:47] na [44:47] nagsimula [44:49] ang [44:49] interconnection [44:50] ng [44:51] Mindanao [44:52] at [44:52] Visayas [44:53] dahil [44:54] nakita [44:54] natin [44:55] na [44:55] sa [44:55] tuwing [44:55] nagre-reach [44:58] na [44:58] yung [44:59] transfer [44:59] capacity [45:00] nung [45:00] interconnection [45:01] yung [45:01] HVDC [45:02] na linya [45:03] na yan [45:03] ay [45:04] nagkakaroon [45:04] ng [45:05] pagkakaiba [45:05] yung [45:06] presyuhan [45:07] sa [45:07] Mindanao [45:08] at [45:08] presyo [45:09] sa [45:09] Visayas [45:10] yung [45:10] pong [45:11] ating [45:11] WESEM [45:12] ay [45:13] sa [45:14] WESEM [45:15] rules [45:15] na [45:15] pinasinaya [45:17] ng [45:17] Department [45:18] of [45:18] Energy [45:19] nandyan [45:19] po [45:19] yung [45:20] disenyo [45:20] ng [45:21] ating [45:21] WESEM [45:22] na kung [45:22] saan [45:22] ang [45:23] ating [45:24] Pilipinas [45:24] ay [45:25] binubuo [45:26] ng [45:26] iba't [45:27] ibang [45:27] grid [45:27] ito [45:28] ay [45:28] nakabase [45:29] doon [45:29] sa [45:29] mga [45:29] lokasyon [45:30] ng [45:30] mga [45:30] substation [45:31] kung saan [45:32] nakakonekta [45:33] yung mga [45:33] generation [45:34] plants [45:35] at saka [45:35] yung mga [45:36] distribution [45:36] utilities [45:37] so [45:38] meron tayong [45:38] nodes [45:39] kung saan [45:41] nakakabit [45:41] mga [45:41] generator [45:42] customer [45:43] meron [45:43] namang [45:43] mga nodes [45:44] na [45:44] customer [45:45] lang [45:45] ang [45:45] nakakabit [45:46] doon [45:46] dito [45:47] po [45:47] sa [45:47] bawat [45:48] node [45:48] na [45:48] ito [45:48] ay [45:49] nagkakaroon [45:49] ng [45:50] iba't [45:50] ibang [45:50] presyo [45:51] ito [45:51] po [45:51] yung [45:52] tinatawag [45:52] natin [45:53] ng [45:53] locational [45:53] marginal [45:54] price [45:55] at [45:55] ito [45:56] po [45:56] ay [45:56] naitatakda [45:57] ang [45:58] alam [45:58] po [45:58] kasi [45:59] natin [45:59] ang [45:59] USM [46:00] nagkakaroon [46:01] tayo [46:01] ng [46:01] isang [46:02] planta [46:02] yung [46:03] marginal [46:03] plant [46:03] na [46:04] siya [46:04] yung [46:04] nagtatakda [46:05] nung [46:05] talagang [46:05] presyo [46:06] para [46:06] sa [46:06] trading [46:07] interval [46:07] na [46:07] yan [46:07] ito [46:08] po [46:08] yung [46:08] tinatawag [46:09] nating [46:09] system [46:10] marginal [46:10] plant [46:11] at [46:12] yung [46:12] offer [46:13] nya [46:13] na [46:13] lalo [46:13] ito [46:14] po [46:14] yung [46:14] system [46:14] marginal [46:15] price [46:15] pero po [46:16] kada [46:17] node [46:17] ay [46:18] hindi [46:18] yan [46:18] ang [46:19] lalabas [46:19] na [46:19] presyo [46:20] dahil [46:20] ang [46:21] susundin [46:22] na [46:22] presyo [46:22] kada [46:22] node [46:23] ay yung [46:23] locational [46:24] marginal [46:25] price [46:25] na [46:25] binubuo [46:26] hindi [46:26] lang [46:26] yung [46:27] system [46:27] marginal [46:27] price [46:28] but [46:28] kasama [46:29] na [46:29] dyan [46:29] yung [46:30] cost [46:30] ng [46:30] line [46:31] loss [46:31] at [46:31] cost [46:32] ng [46:32] congestion [46:33] ito [46:33] po [46:33] yung [46:34] nabanggit [46:34] ni [46:34] attorney [46:35] ng [46:36] NGCP [46:37] so [46:37] ang [46:38] nangyari [46:39] po [46:39] dito [46:39] sa [46:39] Visayas [46:40] sa [46:40] tuwing [46:41] nagkakaroon [46:42] na [46:42] supposedly [46:42] isa [46:43] lang [46:43] yung [46:43] SMP [46:44] at [46:44] yung [46:44] LMP [46:45] ng [46:45] bawat [46:46] node [46:46] nakabatay [46:47] dyan [46:47] sa [46:47] SMP [46:48] na yan [46:48] pero [46:49] dahil [46:49] dito [46:49] sa [46:50] interconnection [46:50] ng [46:51] Visayas [46:52] at [46:52] Mindanao [46:53] at [46:53] nagkakaroon [46:55] ng [46:55] dalawang [46:56] presyo [46:57] yung [46:57] mga [46:58] ating [46:59] electric [46:59] cooperatives [47:00] lalo [47:00] na [47:01] sa [47:01] Visayas [47:01] sa [47:01] region [47:02] A [47:02] na [47:03] nakakontrata [47:04] ng [47:04] generation [47:06] na [47:06] nanggagaling [47:07] sa [47:07] Mindanao [47:08] ang [47:08] kanila [47:09] pong [47:09] presyo [47:09] yung [47:10] node nila [47:10] nakakonekta [47:11] sila [47:11] dito [47:12] sa [47:12] Visayas [47:13] na [47:13] ang [47:13] system [47:14] marginal [47:14] price [47:14] na [47:15] nagtakta [47:16] ng [47:16] locational [47:17] marginal [47:18] price [47:18] nila [47:18] ay [47:19] mas [47:19] mataas [47:19] kasi [47:20] sa [47:20] Visayas [47:20] mas [47:21] mataas [47:21] ang [47:21] lumalabas [47:22] ng [47:22] locational [47:22] marginal [47:23] price [47:23] at [47:24] sa [47:24] Mindanao [47:24] ay [47:25] mas [47:25] mababa [47:26] yung [47:26] line [47:27] rental [47:27] ay [47:28] kinakalkula [47:29] patay [47:30] doon [47:30] sa [47:30] kanilang [47:31] bilateral [47:32] contract [47:32] quantities [47:33] na [47:33] nakontrata [47:34] mula [47:34] sa [47:34] planta [47:35] sa [47:35] Mindanao [47:35] at [47:36] ang [47:37] nangyayari [47:38] po [47:38] ay [47:38] dahil [47:39] hindi [47:40] nakatawid [47:40] yung [47:41] mas [47:41] murang [47:41] nakontrata [47:43] nilang [47:43] generation [47:44] mula [47:44] sa [47:44] Mindanao [47:45] ang [47:46] nagsupply [47:46] po [47:47] nitong [47:47] kuryente [47:48] na ito [47:49] na kanilang [47:49] aktual [47:50] na ginamit [47:50] ay yung [47:51] mga [47:51] plantang [47:51] nanggaling [47:52] sa [47:52] Visayas [47:53] na [47:53] nagtakta [47:53] naman [47:54] ng [47:54] system [47:54] marginal [47:55] price [47:55] dyan [47:55] ay yung [47:56] planta [47:56] ng [47:56] Visayas [47:57] na [47:57] mas [47:57] mataas [47:58] so [47:58] ang [47:58] nangyayari [47:59] po [47:59] ang [48:00] talagang [48:00] gastos [48:01] ng [48:02] ating [48:03] mga [48:03] electric [48:04] cooperatives [48:04] sa [48:05] Visayas [48:05] nakabatay [48:06] dun sa [48:07] presyo [48:07] na yan [48:07] nung [48:08] planta [48:08] ng [48:09] Visayas [48:10] pero [48:11] ang [48:11] babayaran [48:12] naman nila [48:12] aktual [48:13] kasi [48:13] nakontrata [48:14] nila [48:14] yung [48:15] sa [48:15] Mindanao [48:15] na [48:16] planta [48:16] ang [48:17] babayaran [48:17] nila [48:18] batay [48:18] dun sa [48:19] presyo [48:20] ng [48:20] nasa [48:21] Mindanao [48:22] na [48:22] planta [48:22] na [48:23] mas [48:23] mababa [48:23] so [48:24] nakakaroon [48:24] naman [48:25] po [48:25] dahil [48:26] yung [48:26] line [48:27] rental [48:27] ay [48:27] ginagamit [48:28] natin [48:28] pampalansi [48:29] ibig sabihin [48:30] lang po nito [48:31] dapat makolekta [48:32] mula doon [48:33] sa mga [48:33] customers [48:34] mula sa [48:34] mga [48:34] distribution [48:35] utilities [48:36] yung [48:36] amount [48:37] na [48:37] sasapat [48:38] para [48:39] mabayaran [48:39] yung [48:40] planta [48:41] na dapat [48:42] bayaran [48:42] at [48:42] dahil [48:43] sumosobra [48:44] naman [48:45] ang [48:45] nakokolekta [48:46] mula [48:46] doon [48:46] sa [48:46] ating [48:47] mga [48:47] distribution [48:48] utilities [48:49] sa [48:49] Visayas [48:50] at [48:51] ang [48:51] ibabayaran [48:52] naman nila [48:53] sa Mindanao [48:53] ay mas [48:54] mababa [48:54] nagkakaroon [48:55] po tayo [48:55] ng [48:55] tinatawag [48:56] ng [48:56] next [48:56] settlement [48:57] surplus [48:57] at [48:58] ito [48:58] supposedly [48:59] ay [49:01] nagbayad [49:02] unfortunately [49:03] Mr. [49:03] Chair [49:04] Chairman [49:05] Juan [49:06] hindi po [49:07] ganun [49:07] ang nangyayari [49:08] wala naman sila [49:09] nakukuhang refund [49:10] paano yan [49:11] naibubulsa [49:12] lang [49:12] kaya nga po [49:13] masaklak [49:14] nga po [49:14] doon [49:15] bakit [49:16] sila [49:16] ang magbabayad [49:17] nagninegosyo [49:19] ikaw [49:19] distribution [49:20] distributor [49:21] generator [49:22] kapalpakan [49:23] ninyo [49:24] yung tao [49:25] ang consumer [49:25] ang customer [49:26] nyo [49:26] magbabayad [49:27] anong klase [49:27] yan [49:28] anong ibig [49:29] sabihin [49:29] ayaw [49:31] ninyo [49:31] whether [49:32] you're [49:32] distributor [49:33] whether [49:33] you're [49:34] the [49:34] generator [49:35] ayaw [49:36] ninyo [49:36] mag [49:36] incur [49:37] ng [49:37] losses [49:37] ang [49:38] losses [49:38] ninyo [49:39] sisingiling [49:40] ninyo [49:40] sa taong [49:40] bayan [49:41] why [49:41] do [49:42] you [49:42] allow [49:43] that [49:44] why [49:44] do [49:44] you [49:44] allow [49:44] that [49:45] ERC [49:45] why [49:45] do [49:45] you [49:45] allow [49:46] that [49:46] DOE [49:46] why [49:47] do [49:47] you [49:47] allow [49:47] that [49:48] national [49:48] electrification [49:49] administration [49:50] eh [49:51] all [49:51] the [49:51] while [49:52] simple [49:52] lang [49:53] naman po [49:53] eh [49:53] ako [49:53] hindi [49:54] ako [49:54] wala [49:56] akong [49:56] alam [49:56] dyan [49:56] sa mga [49:56] koryente [49:57] but [49:57] listening [49:58] to you [49:58] right [49:59] now [49:59] itong [49:59] mga [49:59] complaints [50:00] na [50:00] pumapasok [50:00] sa amin [50:01] ang sigaw [50:02] ng [50:02] taong [50:02] bayan [50:02] bakit [50:03] po kami [50:03] lagi [50:04] sinisingil [50:04] eh [50:05] problema [50:05] nyan [50:06] bumagsak [50:06] yung [50:06] power [50:07] nya [50:07] kumuha [50:08] siya [50:08] sa kabila [50:09] dahil [50:09] mas mataas [50:10] so [50:10] tataas [50:11] din [50:11] ang bill [50:11] nya [50:11] dapat [50:12] hindi [50:12] po [50:13] kung ano [50:14] nga [50:14] nyo [50:14] single [50:15] sa kanya [50:16] yun [50:16] lang [50:16] kasi [50:16] sasabi [50:17] mo [50:18] maganda [50:18] may [50:18] refund [50:19] na [50:19] ito [50:19] hindi [50:20] nga [50:20] po [50:20] wala [50:20] yun [50:22] masaklak [50:23] doon [50:23] at [50:23] tawa [50:25] tama po [50:25] yun [50:25] at yun [50:26] nga [50:26] yung [50:26] tinutukoy [50:27] namin [50:27] kung [50:28] paano [50:29] aayusin [50:29] yung [50:29] alokasyon [50:30] ng net [50:30] settlement [50:31] surplus [50:31] kung sino [50:33] talaga [50:33] yung [50:33] nagbayad [50:34] ng [50:34] mas mataas [50:34] na [50:35] line [50:35] loss [50:35] and [50:35] congestion [50:36] charge [50:36] sila [50:37] yung [50:37] mas [50:37] malaking [50:38] makukuhang [50:39] balik [50:39] nung [50:40] surplus [50:40] na yan [50:41] dahil [50:42] nga [50:42] mas [50:42] mababa [50:43] naman [50:43] yung [50:43] trading [50:44] amount [50:44] na [50:44] kakailanganin [50:45] para [50:45] sa [50:45] kapayaran [50:46] ng [50:46] generators [50:47] na [50:47] nagsupply [50:48] nung [50:48] kuryente [50:48] nyo [50:49] ito [50:50] po [50:50] ay [50:50] nasa [50:50] pinal [50:51] na [50:51] yung [50:51] aming [50:51] evaluation [50:52] dahil [50:53] po [50:53] merong [50:53] pending [50:54] sa amin [50:54] din [50:54] na [50:54] petisyon [50:55] ang [50:55] IMOP [50:56] at [50:56] ito [50:57] po [50:57] ay [50:57] talagang [50:57] aagarin [50:58] namin [50:58] ang [50:58] aksyon [50:59] para [50:59] maayos [50:59] na [51:00] po [51:00] yung [51:00] nangyayari [51:00] sa [51:01] Visayas [51:01] dalo [51:01] na [51:01] po [51:02] Alright [51:03] thank [51:04] you [51:04] attorney [51:05] one [51:05] sana [51:06] po [51:06] maayos [51:06] po [51:07] ninyo [51:07] sa [51:07] lalong [51:07] madaling [51:07] panahon [51:08] dahil [51:08] parusaw [51:08] talaga [51:09] ito [51:09] pabigat [51:10] po [51:10] ito [51:10] ang dami [51:11] ng [51:11] pasanin [51:12] lahat [51:12] pinasa [51:13] na po [51:13] sa [51:13] consumer [51:14] lahat [51:15] po [51:15] wala [51:16] ng [51:16] losses [51:16] ang mga [51:17] power [51:18] generators [51:19] walang [51:20] losses [51:21] ang [51:21] distributor [51:22] wala po [51:24] yung [51:26] kanilang [51:26] pagkalugi [51:27] sinisingil [51:28] po nila [51:29] yung [51:29] consumer [51:29] si [51:30] consumer [51:30] naman [51:30] na walang [51:31] kalam [51:31] alam [51:32] si [51:32] consumer [51:33] na [51:33] kailangan [51:33] niya [51:33] talaga [51:34] ng [51:34] kuryente [51:35] no [51:35] choice [51:36] you [51:37] know [51:37] dapat po [51:38] dati [51:39] ang [51:39] electricity [51:39] is [51:40] luxury [51:40] di po [51:41] ba [51:41] pero [51:42] ngayon [51:42] ho [51:43] it's [51:43] a [51:43] necessity [51:44] whether [51:45] mahirap [51:46] ka [51:46] kailangan [51:46] mo [51:47] ng [51:47] kuryente [51:47] dahil [51:48] yung [51:48] anak [51:48] mo [51:48] kailangan [51:49] mag [51:49] aral [51:50] yung [51:50] anak [51:51] mo [51:51] may [51:51] sanggol [51:51] ka [51:52] kailangan [51:52] ng [51:52] electric [51:53] pan [51:53] kailangan [51:53] mo [51:54] nang [51:54] hindi [51:54] mo [51:54] pwedeng [51:55] paypayan [51:55] lang [51:55] yung [51:56] baby [51:56] mo [51:56] maghapon [51:57] ito [51:58] yung [51:58] siguro [51:59] nasa [51:59] isip [51:59] pa [52:00] rin [52:00] natin [52:00] para [52:01] tayo [52:01] nung [52:01] dekada [52:10] para [52:11] na [52:11] rin [52:11] po [52:12] itong [52:12] bigas [52:12] para [52:13] na [52:14] rin [52:14] po [52:14] itong [52:14] pagkain [52:15] why [52:16] do [52:16] we [52:16] have [52:17] to [52:17] do [52:17] that [52:17] lahat [52:18] ipapasa [52:19] natin [52:19] sa [52:19] taong [52:20] bayan [52:20] this [52:21] is [52:21] very [52:21] very [52:22] unfair [52:22] anyway [52:23] who's [52:24] next [52:24] to [52:24] present [52:25] oriental [52:27] mindoro [52:27] electric [52:28] cooperative [52:28] you have [52:29] three [52:45] present [52:46] realities [52:46] faced [52:47] by [52:47] our [52:47] electric [52:47] cooperative [52:48] and [52:49] the [52:49] people [52:49] of [52:49] oriental [52:50] mindoro [52:50] electricity [52:52] is [52:52] more [52:52] than [52:53] the [52:53] commodity [52:53] it's [52:54] a [52:54] basic [52:54] necessity [52:55] that [52:55] powers [52:56] our [52:56] homes [52:57] hospitals [52:57] schools [52:58] and [52:58] businesses [52:58] and [52:59] the [52:59] local [52:59] economy [53:00] for [53:01] the [53:01] people [53:01] of [53:01] oriental [53:02] mindoro [53:02] reliable [53:03] and [53:03] affordable [53:04] electricity [53:04] is [53:05] essential [53:05] to [53:06] improving [53:06] lives [53:06] and [53:07] sustaining [53:07] development [53:08] however [53:09] as [53:09] an [53:09] upgrade [53:10] electric [53:10] cooperative [53:10] solely [53:11] distribute [53:11] power [53:12] in [53:12] the [53:12] province [53:12] of [53:13] oriental [53:13] mindoro [53:13] serving [53:14] more [53:14] than [53:17] or [53:17] micro [53:18] operates [53:18] under [53:18] conditions [53:19] that [53:19] are [53:19] fundamentally [53:20] different [53:21] from [53:21] those [53:22] other [53:22] utilities [53:22] connected [53:23] in [53:23] the [53:24] national [53:24] grid [53:24] our [53:25] recent [53:25] experience [53:26] has [53:26] shown [53:26] how [53:27] vulnerable [53:27] isolated [53:28] power [53:28] system [53:29] to [53:30] fluctuating [53:30] our [53:31] generation [53:31] you will [53:33] supply [53:34] disruption [53:34] delays [53:35] in [53:35] the [53:36] implementation [53:36] of [53:36] power [53:37] procurement [53:37] and [53:38] projects [53:38] regulatory [53:39] bottlenecks [53:40] and [53:41] rising [53:41] generation [53:41] costs [53:42] these [53:43] challenges [53:43] resulted [53:44] in [53:44] prolonged [53:45] dependence [53:45] on [53:46] expensive [53:46] emergency [53:47] power [53:47] increase [53:49] electricity [53:49] rates [53:50] and [53:50] financial [53:50] strain [53:51] on [53:51] both [53:51] or [53:52] MECO [53:52] and [53:52] our [53:52] member [53:53] consumer [53:53] owners [53:54] despite [53:55] these [53:55] difficulties [53:56] or [53:56] MECO [53:56] remain [53:57] committed [53:57] to [53:57] ensuring [53:58] that [53:58] electricity [53:59] continues [53:59] to [54:00] reach [54:00] every [54:00] household [54:01] and [54:01] businesses [54:02] in [54:02] oriental [54:03] mindoro [54:03] for [54:04] this [54:05] reason [54:05] we [54:06] respectfully [54:06] urge [54:07] the [54:07] Honorable [54:07] Senate [54:08] to [54:08] consider [54:08] policy [54:09] reforms [54:09] that [54:10] will [54:10] strengthen [54:10] the [54:11] energy [54:11] security [54:11] of all [54:12] upgrade [54:13] and [54:13] missionary [54:13] areas [54:14] first [54:15] we [54:15] respectfully [54:16] recommend [54:17] the [54:17] establishment [54:17] of an [54:18] energy [54:18] security [54:19] framework [54:19] for [54:20] upgrade [54:20] electric [54:21] cooperatives [54:22] this [54:22] framework [54:23] should [54:23] include [54:23] contingency [54:24] planning [54:25] during [54:25] our [54:25] fluctuating [54:26] generation [54:27] you will [54:27] security [54:28] measures [54:29] emergency [54:29] financial [54:30] assistance [54:31] and [54:31] strategic [54:32] support [54:32] during [54:33] crisis [54:33] like [54:33] this [54:34] to [54:35] ensure [54:35] that [54:36] electric [54:36] cooperatives [54:36] can [54:37] continue [54:37] delivering [54:38] power [54:38] without [54:39] placing [54:39] entire [54:40] financial [54:40] burden [54:41] on [54:42] consumers [54:42] second [54:43] second [54:43] we [54:44] seek [54:44] your [54:44] support [54:44] in [54:45] stream [54:45] lining [54:45] regulatory [54:46] approvals [54:47] during [54:48] a [54:48] power [54:48] shortage [54:49] every [54:49] day [54:49] of [54:50] delay [54:50] in [54:50] approving [54:51] power [54:51] supply [54:51] agreements [54:52] interconnection [54:53] testing [54:54] commissioning [54:55] means [54:55] another [54:55] day [54:56] that [54:56] consumer [54:57] rely [54:57] on [54:57] costly [54:58] emergency [54:58] generation [54:59] upgrade [55:00] electric [55:01] cooperatives [55:01] simply [55:02] do not [55:02] have [55:03] the [55:03] luxury [55:03] of [55:03] waiting [55:04] through [55:04] lengthy [55:04] regulatory [55:05] processes [55:05] while [55:06] communities [55:07] continue [55:07] to [55:07] suffer [55:08] from [55:08] unreliable [55:09] electricity [55:09] third [55:11] we [55:11] respectfully [55:11] ask [55:12] for [55:12] the [55:12] reforms [55:13] in [55:13] the [55:13] release [55:13] of [55:14] the [55:14] universal [55:14] charge [55:15] for [55:15] missionary [55:15] electrification [55:16] subsidies [55:18] timely [55:19] subsidy [55:19] releases [55:20] are vital [55:20] to [55:20] sustaining [55:21] the [55:21] operations [55:22] of [55:22] power [55:22] providers [55:23] serving [55:23] isolated [55:24] grids [55:25] delays [55:27] in [55:27] these [55:27] subsidies [55:28] weaken [55:28] the [55:28] financial [55:29] capability [55:29] of [55:30] generators [55:30] discourage [55:31] investment [55:32] and threaten [55:32] the [55:32] continuity [55:33] of [55:33] electric [55:34] service [55:34] finally [55:35] we [55:35] respectfully [55:36] seek [55:36] your [55:36] assistance [55:37] in [55:37] expediting [55:38] the [55:38] remaining [55:38] power [55:38] supply [55:39] procurement [55:39] of [55:39] or [55:40] mecca [55:40] and [55:41] pass [55:41] tracking [55:41] the [55:41] regulatory [55:42] approvals [55:43] necessary [55:43] to [55:43] bring [55:43] new [55:44] generating [55:44] facilities [55:45] into [55:45] operation [55:46] so [55:46] this [55:47] immediate [55:47] intervention [55:48] will [55:48] help [55:48] stabilize [55:49] electricity [55:49] rates [55:50] improve [55:50] supply [55:51] reliability [55:51] and [55:52] protect [55:52] the [55:53] welfare [55:53] of [55:53] our [55:53] consumers [55:54] honorable [55:55] senator [55:55] on [55:56] behalf [55:56] of [55:56] or [55:56] mecca [55:57] and [55:57] more [55:57] than [55:57] 200,000 [55:58] member [55:58] consumers [55:59] that [55:59] we [55:59] serve [55:59] respectfully [56:00] ask [56:01] for [56:02] your [56:02] continued [56:02] guidance [56:03] legislative [56:04] support [56:05] and [56:05] partnership [56:06] in [56:06] building [56:06] the [56:06] energy [56:07] sector [56:07] that [56:08] is [56:08] resilient [56:08] and affordable [56:09] for [56:10] every [56:10] oriental [56:11] mindureños [56:11] regardless [56:12] of where [56:13] they leave [56:13] maraming [56:13] salamat [56:14] thank you [56:16] or [56:16] mecca [56:16] pero [56:17] ma'am [56:17] tanong [56:18] ko [56:18] lang [56:18] nga [56:18] mong [56:19] ko [56:19] nag-rally [56:21] lang yung [56:22] mga [56:22] consumer [56:25] ninyo [56:26] last week [56:26] dahil sa [56:27] taas [56:27] ng [56:27] kuryente [56:28] ninyo [56:28] at [56:28] pangit [56:29] pa [56:29] ang [56:29] servisyo [56:30] hindi [56:30] ba [56:30] kayo [56:31] sinasubsidize [56:32] di ba [56:32] may [56:32] subsidia [56:33] kayo [56:33] mula [56:34] sa [56:34] national [56:34] electrification [56:35] administration [56:36] ano [56:36] reason [56:37] bakit [56:37] sa [56:38] ngayon [56:39] Mr. [56:40] Chair [56:40] ang [56:41] aming [56:41] supply [56:42] is [56:43] mixed [56:44] or [56:45] blended [56:45] meron [56:46] po [56:46] kaming [56:46] tinatawag [56:47] na [56:47] subsidized [56:48] dun [56:48] po [56:48] sa [56:49] regular [56:49] IPTs [56:50] namin [56:50] and [56:51] yung [56:51] mga [56:51] na-approve [56:52] na [56:53] po [56:53] ng [56:53] ERC [56:54] under [56:54] 57 [56:54] megawatt [56:55] however [56:56] meron [56:56] pa rin [56:57] po [56:57] kaming [56:57] supply [56:57] na [56:57] nanggagaling [56:58] sa [56:58] emergency [56:59] power [56:59] ito [57:00] po [57:00] yung [57:00] mga [57:01] supply [57:01] kung [57:02] saan [57:02] sila [57:02] po [57:02] yung [57:02] sumasalo [57:03] kapag [57:04] kagaya [57:05] ng [57:05] aming [57:05] sa panahon [57:06] ito [57:06] po [57:06] ang [57:06] renewable [57:07] energy [57:07] sources [57:08] namin [57:08] ay [57:09] mababa [57:10] minsan [57:11] po [57:11] walang [57:11] takbo [57:12] and [57:13] wala [57:14] po [57:14] itong [57:14] penalty [57:16] and [57:17] then [57:17] ang [57:17] aming [57:18] pong [57:18] iba [57:18] sa [57:18] 57 [57:19] megawatt [57:20] na [57:20] inaasahan [57:20] po [57:20] namin [57:21] na [57:21] tumatakbo [57:21] na [57:22] dapat [57:22] this [57:23] is [57:23] 24 [57:24] megawatt [57:24] po [57:24] sana [57:24] na [57:25] tumatakbo [57:26] na [57:26] but [57:26] then [57:26] this [57:27] year [57:27] hindi [57:28] pa rin [57:28] po [57:28] sila [57:28] nakakapag [57:29] deliver [57:30] sa [57:30] ormenco [57:31] kasi [57:33] ma'am [57:33] kung [57:33] hindi [57:34] niyo [57:34] na [57:34] kaya [57:35] mag [57:35] deliver [57:35] ng [57:36] kuryente [57:37] dyan [57:37] marami [57:39] ako [57:39] nakakausap [57:39] na [57:40] gustong [57:40] pumasok [57:40] dyan [57:41] sa [57:41] totoo [57:41] lang [57:41] may [57:42] mga [57:42] Chinese [57:43] company [57:44] may [57:44] mga [57:44] European [57:45] gusto [57:45] po [57:45] pumasok [57:46] talaga [57:46] hindi ko [57:47] lang [57:47] maintindihan [57:48] bakit [57:48] kayo [57:49] patuloy [57:49] na patuloy [57:50] nag-ooperate [57:51] sa totoo [57:52] lang [57:52] sinusukan [57:53] na [57:53] kayo [57:53] ng mga [57:53] consumer [57:54] sinusukan [57:55] na [57:55] kayo [57:55] ng mga [57:56] tiga [57:56] Oriental [57:58] Mindoro [57:58] it's a fact [57:59] yung [58:00] uton ko [58:01] pa rito [58:01] sa [58:01] senator [58:01] rapi [58:02] pan [58:02] chairman [58:02] problema [58:03] na [58:03] kayo [58:04] bago [58:04] pa [58:04] siya [58:05] problema [58:05] pa rin [58:06] hanggang [58:06] ngayon [58:06] hindi [58:06] na [58:07] natapos [58:07] tapos [58:07] baka [58:08] abutan [58:08] pa [58:09] mga [58:09] apoko [58:09] pag [58:10] naging [58:10] senador [58:10] isang [58:10] araw [58:11] ngayon [58:11] gano'n [58:12] pa rin [58:12] ang [58:12] problema [58:12] attorney [58:15] rosanley [58:15] anong [58:16] magandang [58:16] gawin [58:17] dito [58:17] sa [58:17] ormeco [58:18] brownout [58:19] na [58:20] lagi [58:20] mataas [58:21] pa [58:21] sumingil [58:22] hindi [58:23] na [58:23] nahiya [58:24] dios [58:24] ko [58:24] po [58:24] aren't [58:29] they [58:29] subsidized [58:30] they are [58:31] receiving [58:31] subsidy [58:32] from the [58:32] government [58:33] considering [58:33] that they [58:34] are [58:34] off [58:34] grid [58:35] so [58:35] they [58:36] are [58:36] getting [58:36] a [58:37] share [58:37] on [58:37] their [58:37] subsidized [58:38] approved [58:38] generation [58:39] rate [58:39] from [58:41] the [58:41] ucme [58:41] all [58:42] right [58:42] yes [58:43] however [58:43] as [58:43] explained [58:44] while [58:45] naya [58:45] has [58:45] been [58:46] pushing [58:46] for [58:47] the [58:47] utilization [58:48] of [58:49] renewable [58:49] energy [58:50] so [58:50] that [58:50] it [58:50] can [58:51] be [58:51] blended [58:51] in [58:51] their [58:51] energy [58:52] mix [58:52] in [58:53] the [58:54] effort [58:54] to [58:55] lower [58:55] the [58:55] rates [58:56] other [58:56] than [58:57] the [58:57] subsidized [58:58] amount [58:59] or [58:59] portion [58:59] that [59:00] is [59:00] taken [59:01] from [59:02] the [59:02] national [59:02] government [59:03] through [59:03] the [59:03] ucme [59:04] so [59:05] kailan [59:05] ho [59:06] kaya [59:06] makatikim [59:07] yung [59:07] mga [59:07] tiga [59:07] ormeco [59:08] nang [59:08] dirend [59:08] dirend [59:09] na [59:09] walang [59:12] may mataas [59:13] pa [59:13] ng [59:13] presyo [59:14] dalaw [59:14] doble [59:15] doble [59:15] pasan [59:16] din [59:16] sa [59:17] ano [59:18] kaya [59:18] ang [59:18] plano [59:18] dito [59:19] energy [59:19] regulatory [59:20] commission [59:20] maybe [59:20] you [59:20] could [59:21] help [59:21] anong [59:21] solusyon [59:22] kaya [59:22] dito [59:23] sa [59:23] mga [59:23] tiga [59:23] Mindoro [59:25] Oriental [59:25] Thank you [59:27] Mr. [59:27] Chess [59:27] sa pagkakaalam [59:28] po [59:28] natin [59:29] ay may [59:29] mga [59:29] programa [59:30] ang [59:30] Department [59:30] of [59:31] Energy [59:31] at [59:31] isa [59:31] na [59:32] dyan [59:32] ay [59:32] yung [59:32] transmission [59:34] line [59:35] na [59:35] makukonekta [59:36] sa [59:36] Mindoro [59:37] Oriental [59:37] at [59:38] saka [59:38] yung [59:38] occidental [59:38] dahil po [59:39] lalaki [59:40] yung [59:40] merkado [59:40] mas [59:41] makakahikayat [59:41] na tayo [59:42] na mayroong [59:43] mamuhunan [59:43] dyan [59:44] na mas [59:44] malalaking [59:44] planta [59:45] nang sa [59:46] ganon [59:46] ay [59:46] matugunan [59:47] yung [59:47] problema [59:48] ng supply [59:48] at [59:49] hindi [59:49] yung [59:49] nangyayari [59:49] ngayon [59:50] na [59:50] pautay-utay [59:52] ang [59:53] pagtatayo [59:53] ng mga [59:54] planta [59:54] at [59:54] karaniwan [59:55] pa [59:55] ay [59:55] diesel [59:56] sa [59:56] parte [59:56] naman [59:57] po [59:57] ng [59:57] Energy [59:57] Regulatory [59:58] Commission [59:58] meron [59:59] po [59:59] kaming [59:59] pinalangkas [1:00:00] na [1:00:00] at [1:00:01] paano [1:00:01] kalang [1:00:08] itong [1:00:08] mga [1:00:08] islang [1:00:09] ito [1:00:09] itong [1:00:09] mga [1:00:09] off-grid [1:00:10] areas [1:00:10] na [1:00:10] ito [1:00:11] at [1:00:11] mayroon [1:00:11] dito [1:00:11] mga [1:00:12] commercial [1:00:12] establishments [1:00:13] industrial [1:00:14] establishments [1:00:15] ang gusto [1:00:15] po [1:00:16] natin [1:00:16] ay [1:00:16] mahikayat [1:00:17] itong [1:00:17] mga [1:00:18] may-ari [1:00:18] ng [1:00:18] mga [1:00:18] ganitong [1:00:19] establishments [1:00:19] na [1:00:20] maglagay [1:00:20] sila [1:00:20] ng [1:00:21] sarili [1:00:21] nilang [1:00:21] solar [1:00:22] installations [1:00:23] at [1:00:23] kung [1:00:23] sila [1:00:24] ay [1:00:24] mayroong [1:00:24] extra [1:00:25] na [1:00:25] mapuproduce [1:00:26] ito [1:00:26] ay [1:00:27] ibibigay [1:00:28] nila [1:00:28] sa [1:00:28] kanilang [1:00:29] mga [1:00:29] cooperatives [1:00:30] dito [1:00:30] in the [1:00:31] case [1:00:38] at [1:00:39] dahil [1:00:39] ito [1:00:39] ay [1:00:40] sagar [1:00:40] ang [1:00:41] presyong [1:00:41] ibabaya [1:00:42] dito [1:00:43] sa mga [1:00:43] distributed [1:00:43] energy [1:00:44] resources [1:00:45] na [1:00:45] owners [1:00:45] or [1:00:46] operators [1:00:46] makakabawas [1:00:48] ito [1:00:48] doon [1:00:49] sa [1:00:49] pangangailangan [1:00:50] na [1:00:51] isubsidize [1:00:52] yung [1:00:52] generation [1:00:53] cost [1:00:54] ng [1:00:54] off-grid [1:00:55] ng [1:00:55] Mindoro [1:00:56] dahil [1:00:56] po [1:00:56] kung [1:00:57] matidisplace [1:00:57] niya [1:00:58] yung [1:00:58] generation [1:00:59] lalo [1:00:59] na [1:00:59] ng [1:00:59] diesel [1:01:00] mas [1:01:00] mababa [1:01:01] ang [1:01:02] actual [1:01:02] true [1:01:03] cost [1:01:03] generation [1:01:04] ngayon [1:01:04] po [1:01:05] kasama [1:01:06] dito [1:01:06] yung [1:01:06] insentibo [1:01:07] sa [1:01:07] renewable [1:01:08] energy [1:01:08] act [1:01:08] na [1:01:09] cash [1:01:09] incentive [1:01:09] na [1:01:10] po [1:01:10] pwede [1:01:11] rin [1:01:11] ma-access [1:01:11] ng [1:01:12] ating [1:01:12] mga [1:01:12] distributed [1:01:13] energy [1:01:13] resources [1:01:14] owners [1:01:14] or [1:01:15] operators [1:01:15] so [1:01:16] ito [1:01:16] po [1:01:16] ang [1:01:17] ginagawa [1:01:17] lang [1:01:18] natin [1:01:18] dahil [1:01:18] kung [1:01:18] fully [1:01:19] contracted [1:01:19] naman [1:01:19] ang [1:01:20] cooperative [1:01:21] ang [1:01:21] Ormeco [1:01:22] halimbawa [1:01:23] magpapatubad [1:01:25] tayo [1:01:25] ng [1:01:25] priority [1:01:26] dispatch [1:01:27] para [1:01:27] dun [1:01:28] sa [1:01:28] export [1:01:28] ng [1:01:29] mga [1:01:29] distributed [1:01:29] energy [1:01:30] resources [1:01:30] nang [1:01:31] sa [1:01:31] ganun [1:01:31] itong [1:01:32] mga [1:01:32] diesel [1:01:33] na [1:01:33] nakontrata [1:01:34] na [1:01:34] ng [1:01:34] Ormeco [1:01:35] o [1:01:35] ng [1:01:38] sila [1:01:38] po [1:01:38] ay [1:01:39] standby [1:01:39] na [1:01:39] lang [1:01:39] maaring [1:01:40] babayanan [1:01:40] pa rin [1:01:41] sila [1:01:41] ng [1:01:41] capital [1:01:41] recovery [1:01:42] fee [1:01:42] nila [1:01:42] pero [1:01:43] at least [1:01:43] hindi na [1:01:44] sila [1:01:44] gagastos [1:01:45] ng [1:01:45] fuel [1:01:45] dahil [1:01:46] po [1:01:46] kada [1:01:47] isang [1:01:47] kilowatt [1:01:48] hour [1:01:49] na [1:01:50] mapuproduce [1:01:51] ng [1:01:51] diesel [1:01:52] katumbas [1:01:53] po [1:01:53] ito [1:01:53] ng [1:01:53] one-fourth [1:01:54] ng [1:01:54] cost [1:01:54] ng [1:01:55] litro [1:01:55] ng [1:01:55] diesel [1:01:56] so [1:01:57] malaking [1:01:57] bahagi [1:01:58] talaga [1:01:58] po [1:01:58] ng [1:01:58] fuel [1:01:59] ng [1:01:59] generation [1:02:00] cost [1:02:01] ng [1:02:02] off-grid [1:02:02] areas [1:02:03] natin [1:02:03] ay yung [1:02:03] fuel [1:02:04] cost [1:02:04] at [1:02:04] kung [1:02:08] at [1:02:08] madadagdagan [1:02:09] pa [1:02:09] yung [1:02:09] supply [1:02:10] capacity [1:02:11] doon sa [1:02:11] mga [1:02:12] off-grid [1:02:12] areas [1:02:12] po [1:02:13] natin [1:02:13] so [1:02:13] for [1:02:14] now [1:02:14] ipasadyos [1:02:15] na [1:02:15] lamang [1:02:16] yung [1:02:16] brownout [1:02:16] at [1:02:17] yung [1:02:17] taas [1:02:18] ng [1:02:18] presyo [1:02:18] tumingala [1:02:19] na lang [1:02:19] siguro [1:02:20] yung [1:02:20] mga [1:02:20] kababayan [1:02:20] natin [1:02:21] sa [1:02:21] Oriental [1:02:21] Mendoro [1:02:22] wala [1:02:22] ba [1:02:22] talaga [1:02:23] immediate [1:02:23] solution [1:02:24] dito [1:02:24] kasi [1:02:24] I'm not [1:02:25] going [1:02:25] to ask [1:02:25] or make [1:02:26] anymore [1:02:26] kasi [1:02:26] nakailang [1:02:27] hearing [1:02:28] pinapanood [1:02:28] ko [1:02:29] ito [1:02:29] dati [1:02:29] ang [1:02:29] daming [1:02:30] panusot [1:02:30] ang daming [1:02:31] excuses [1:02:31] on the [1:02:32] government [1:02:32] side [1:02:32] what can [1:02:33] we do [1:02:33] about [1:02:33] this [1:02:34] do we [1:02:34] have to [1:02:35] shut [1:02:35] it [1:02:35] down [1:02:36] siguro [1:02:36] i-cancel [1:02:37] na yung [1:02:37] lisensya [1:02:39] nila [1:02:39] ibigay [1:02:40] nilang [1:02:40] sa iba [1:02:40] kasi [1:02:41] marami [1:02:41] naman [1:02:41] po [1:02:41] nag-volunteer [1:02:43] na gustong [1:02:43] pumasok [1:02:44] po [1:02:44] diyan [1:02:45] di po [1:02:46] ba [1:02:46] I don't [1:02:47] know [1:02:47] yung [1:02:48] sinasabi [1:02:48] mo [1:02:48] agreeable [1:02:49] ako [1:02:49] doon [1:02:50] siguro [1:02:50] yung [1:02:50] linya [1:02:51] from [1:02:51] Oriental [1:02:52] to [1:02:52] Occidental [1:02:53] maraming [1:02:53] papasok [1:02:54] na [1:02:55] ikanga [1:02:55] na mga [1:02:56] investors [1:02:57] gusto [1:02:57] po [1:02:58] nila [1:02:58] so [1:02:58] siguro [1:02:59] why [1:02:59] don't [1:02:59] we [1:02:59] talk [1:03:00] to [1:03:00] NAPOCOR [1:03:01] or [1:03:01] to [1:03:01] the [1:03:01] NGCP [1:03:02] NGCP [1:03:03] kaya [1:03:04] ba [1:03:04] nalagyan [1:03:05] na [1:03:05] linya [1:03:06] lahat [1:03:07] ng [1:03:07] buong [1:03:07] mundoro [1:03:08] na yan [1:03:08] are you [1:03:09] doing [1:03:09] that [1:03:09] now [1:03:09] or [1:03:10] is [1:03:10] it [1:03:10] NAPOCOR [1:03:11] for [1:03:12] the [1:03:12] interconnection [1:03:13] to [1:03:13] the [1:03:14] main [1:03:14] grid [1:03:14] we [1:03:14] already [1:03:15] have [1:03:15] an [1:03:15] ongoing [1:03:16] Batangas [1:03:16] Mindoro [1:03:17] interconnection [1:03:17] project [1:03:18] kailan [1:03:19] matatapos [1:03:20] yan [1:03:20] for [1:03:21] the [1:03:21] submarine [1:03:22] cable [1:03:22] 2028 [1:03:23] for [1:03:24] the [1:03:25] overhead [1:03:25] lines [1:03:26] 2029 [1:03:27] So [1:03:29] kailan [1:03:30] mararamdaman [1:03:31] ng mga [1:03:31] kababayan [1:03:32] natin [1:03:32] sa [1:03:32] Mindoro [1:03:33] na [1:03:33] tuloy-tuloy [1:03:34] na [1:03:34] yung [1:03:34] kanilang [1:03:34] power [1:03:35] Of course [1:03:36] Mr. [1:03:37] Chair [1:03:37] subject [1:03:38] po [1:03:38] dun [1:03:38] sa [1:03:38] existence [1:03:39] ng [1:03:39] supply [1:03:40] but [1:03:40] pag [1:03:41] natapos [1:03:41] po [1:03:41] yung [1:03:41] overhead [1:03:42] which [1:03:42] is [1:03:42] in [1:03:42] 2029 [1:03:43] makakasource [1:03:44] na po [1:03:45] ang [1:03:45] Mindoro [1:03:45] Island [1:03:46] from [1:03:47] the [1:03:47] main [1:03:47] grid [1:03:48] which [1:03:48] is [1:03:48] Luzon [1:03:48] Alright [1:03:49] Thank you [1:03:50] Attorney [1:03:50] Palawan [1:03:55] Electric [1:03:55] Cooperative [1:03:56] you have [1:03:56] three minutes [1:03:57] Mr. [1:03:58] Chair [1:03:58] if I may [1:03:59] before the [1:03:59] Palawan [1:04:00] Electric [1:04:00] Co-op [1:04:00] additional [1:04:03] point of [1:04:03] information [1:04:04] lang [1:04:04] kaungay [1:04:05] nung [1:04:05] naunang [1:04:06] pag-uusap [1:04:06] natin [1:04:07] na [1:04:08] with all [1:04:09] due [1:04:09] respect [1:04:09] po [1:04:09] sa [1:04:10] Attorney [1:04:10] Rosano [1:04:11] NEA [1:04:12] never [1:04:13] subsidizes [1:04:14] the [1:04:14] co-ops [1:04:15] nagpapautang [1:04:16] lamang [1:04:18] po [1:04:18] ang [1:04:18] NEA [1:04:19] sa [1:04:19] mga [1:04:19] co-ops [1:04:20] so [1:04:20] consumers [1:04:20] po [1:04:21] talaga [1:04:21] ang [1:04:22] nagsasubsidize [1:04:23] sa fuel [1:04:23] ng [1:04:24] NPC [1:04:25] at [1:04:25] mga [1:04:25] new [1:04:26] power [1:04:26] providers [1:04:27] sa [1:04:27] pamamagitan [1:04:28] ng [1:04:28] UCM [1:04:28] Just [1:04:29] for the [1:04:29] record [1:04:29] Mr. [1:04:30] Chair [1:04:30] Alright [1:04:32] Palawan [1:04:34] Electric [1:04:34] Cooperative [1:04:35] we have [1:04:35] three minutes [1:04:36] Sir [1:04:37] To [1:04:38] the [1:04:39] Honorable [1:04:39] Chair [1:04:39] and [1:04:40] members [1:04:40] of [1:04:40] the [1:04:40] Senate [1:04:41] Aids [1:04:42] and [1:04:42] representative [1:04:43] of [1:04:43] government [1:04:43] agencies [1:04:44] and [1:04:45] all [1:04:45] other [1:04:45] distinguished [1:04:46] participants [1:04:46] of this [1:04:47] public [1:04:47] hearing [1:04:48] Good [1:04:48] Morning [1:04:48] on behalf [1:04:50] of our [1:04:50] General [1:04:50] Manager [1:04:51] Engineer [1:04:51] I am [1:04:53] Engineer [1:04:54] of [1:04:54] Energy [1:04:54] Bylon [1:04:55] Jr. [1:04:55] The [1:04:56] current [1:04:56] manager [1:04:56] of [1:04:57] Palago's [1:04:57] Corporate [1:04:58] Planning [1:04:58] Department [1:04:59] The [1:05:00] Palawan [1:05:00] Electric [1:05:00] Cooperative [1:05:01] or [1:05:01] Palago [1:05:01] expresses [1:05:02] its [1:05:02] support [1:05:03] for [1:05:04] Senate [1:05:04] Bill [1:05:04] Number [1:05:05] 1950 [1:05:06] 2109 [1:05:07] 346 [1:05:09] 367 [1:05:10] and [1:05:10] 63 [1:05:10] While [1:05:12] respectfully [1:05:12] proposing [1:05:13] similar [1:05:13] amendments [1:05:14] and [1:05:14] recommendations [1:05:15] aimed at [1:05:16] better [1:05:16] protecting [1:05:17] electricity [1:05:18] consumers [1:05:18] and [1:05:19] strengthening [1:05:19] the [1:05:20] electric [1:05:21] operative [1:05:21] sectors [1:05:22] First [1:05:22] on Senate [1:05:23] Bill [1:05:23] Number [1:05:24] 1950 [1:05:24] and [1:05:25] 5109 [1:05:25] or the [1:05:26] proposed [1:05:27] amendments [1:05:27] to the [1:05:28] electric [1:05:28] power [1:05:28] industry [1:05:29] reform [1:05:29] act [1:05:29] to be [1:05:30] considered [1:05:31] the [1:05:31] following [1:05:32] concerns [1:05:32] Palago [1:05:34] recommends [1:05:35] expanding [1:05:35] proposed [1:05:36] tax [1:05:36] exemptions [1:05:37] or [1:05:37] zero [1:05:37] rating [1:05:38] beyond [1:05:38] generation [1:05:39] to cover [1:05:39] the [1:05:40] entire [1:05:40] electricity [1:05:40] supply [1:05:41] chains [1:05:41] including [1:05:42] generation [1:05:43] transmission [1:05:43] distribution [1:05:44] and [1:05:45] electric [1:05:45] operatives [1:05:45] this [1:05:47] would [1:05:47] reduce [1:05:48] cost [1:05:48] pass [1:05:48] on [1:05:49] to [1:05:50] the [1:05:50] consumer [1:05:50] and [1:05:51] improve [1:05:51] the [1:05:51] financial [1:05:51] and [1:05:52] operational [1:05:52] sustainability [1:05:53] of [1:05:54] electric [1:05:54] operatives [1:05:55] Then [1:05:56] for [1:05:57] off-grid [1:05:57] electric [1:05:58] operatives [1:05:58] we are [1:05:59] not [1:05:59] connected [1:06:00] to [1:06:00] listen [1:06:00] grid [1:06:00] notes [1:06:03] that [1:06:03] we [1:06:03] seem [1:06:04] is [1:06:04] not [1:06:04] currently [1:06:04] applicable [1:06:05] in [1:06:06] that [1:06:06] they [1:06:06] rely [1:06:07] on [1:06:07] our [1:06:08] bilateral [1:06:09] contracts [1:06:09] within [1:06:09] PPs [1:06:10] So [1:06:11] when [1:06:11] long-term [1:06:12] PCs [1:06:12] are pending [1:06:13] ERC [1:06:14] approval [1:06:14] operatives [1:06:16] may need [1:06:17] EFSA [1:06:17] to bridge [1:06:18] the gap [1:06:19] which can [1:06:20] expose [1:06:20] consumers [1:06:21] to higher [1:06:22] trocos [1:06:22] generation [1:06:23] Palago [1:06:25] therefore [1:06:25] recommend [1:06:26] allowing [1:06:26] qualified [1:06:27] off-grid [1:06:28] cooperatives [1:06:28] to enter [1:06:29] into [1:06:29] Transitary [1:06:30] Power [1:06:31] Supply [1:06:31] Agreements [1:06:32] or [1:06:32] TPC [1:06:33] while [1:06:34] awaiting [1:06:34] for [1:06:35] approval [1:06:35] of [1:06:36] the [1:06:37] long-term [1:06:37] PCs [1:06:37] with [1:06:38] appropriate [1:06:39] government [1:06:39] subsidies [1:06:40] Palico [1:06:42] also calls [1:06:42] for the [1:06:43] streamlining [1:06:43] of [1:06:44] LGU [1:06:44] permitting [1:06:44] affecting [1:06:46] the [1:06:46] city [1:06:46] electrification [1:06:47] program [1:06:47] to speed [1:06:51] up [1:06:52] the [1:06:53] electrification [1:06:54] of its [1:06:56] household [1:06:56] beneficiaries [1:06:57] of this [1:06:57] project [1:06:58] or [1:07:00] support [1:07:00] to [1:07:01] our [1:07:01] household [1:07:02] beneficiaries [1:07:03] Then [1:07:04] renewable [1:07:05] energy [1:07:06] projects [1:07:06] under [1:07:08] the [1:07:08] COACSP [1:07:09] Palico [1:07:10] recommends [1:07:10] to [1:07:12] increase [1:07:12] the [1:07:13] 10 [1:07:13] megawatt [1:07:13] allocation [1:07:14] for [1:07:14] electric [1:07:14] cooperative [1:07:15] with [1:07:16] an [1:07:16] allocation [1:07:17] based [1:07:17] on [1:07:18] its [1:07:18] cooperatives [1:07:19] forecasted [1:07:19] demand [1:07:20] to [1:07:21] lower [1:07:21] down [1:07:21] the [1:07:21] effective [1:07:22] rates [1:07:22] and [1:07:24] to [1:07:27] save [1:07:30] the [1:07:30] UCM [1:07:31] subsidy [1:07:31] and [1:07:33] second [1:07:33] bill [1:07:35] number [1:07:35] 346 [1:07:36] 37 [1:07:37] which [1:07:38] strengthens [1:07:38] the [1:07:39] energy [1:07:39] regulatory [1:07:39] commission [1:07:40] Palico [1:07:41] support [1:07:41] requirements [1:07:42] to [1:07:42] strengthen [1:07:42] the [1:07:42] ERC [1:07:43] it [1:07:44] believes [1:07:44] a [1:07:44] more [1:07:44] independent [1:07:45] professional [1:07:46] transparent [1:07:47] accountable [1:07:47] and [1:07:47] liquidity [1:07:48] funded [1:07:48] ERC [1:07:49] would [1:07:49] improve [1:07:49] regulatory [1:07:50] decision [1:07:51] making [1:07:51] consumer [1:07:52] protection [1:07:53] and [1:07:53] overall [1:07:53] stability [1:07:54] and [1:07:54] reliability [1:07:55] in the [1:07:55] power [1:07:55] sector [1:07:56] then [1:07:57] lastly [1:07:58] the [1:07:59] Senate [1:08:00] bill [1:08:00] number [1:08:00] 63 [1:08:01] which [1:08:02] seek to [1:08:02] enhance [1:08:02] the [1:08:02] implementation [1:08:03] of the [1:08:03] Lifeline [1:08:04] subsidy [1:08:04] program [1:08:05] for [1:08:05] low-income [1:08:09] and [1:08:09] vulnerable [1:08:10] electricity [1:08:10] consumers [1:08:11] however [1:08:12] it [1:08:13] recommends [1:08:13] that [1:08:13] the [1:08:14] subsidy [1:08:14] be [1:08:14] funded [1:08:15] primarily [1:08:15] through [1:08:15] national [1:08:17] government [1:08:17] appropriations [1:08:18] rather than [1:08:19] relying heavily [1:08:19] on [1:08:20] attribution [1:08:20] from [1:08:20] the [1:08:21] land [1:08:21] lifeline [1:08:21] consumers [1:08:22] then [1:08:24] Palico [1:08:24] agrees [1:08:24] that [1:08:25] government [1:08:25] funding [1:08:26] would be [1:08:27] a [1:08:27] more [1:08:27] transparent [1:08:28] and [1:08:29] more [1:08:29] sustainable [1:08:29] approach [1:08:30] and [1:08:30] would [1:08:30] prevent [1:08:31] additional [1:08:31] financial [1:08:32] burden [1:08:32] on [1:08:33] other [1:08:33] consumers [1:08:33] already [1:08:34] facing [1:08:34] the [1:08:35] electricity [1:08:35] cost [1:08:36] then [1:08:42] regarding [1:08:42] system [1:08:43] loss [1:08:43] Palico [1:08:44] has done [1:08:45] its best [1:08:45] to keep [1:08:46] system [1:08:46] loss [1:08:46] at a [1:08:47] single [1:08:47] digit [1:08:47] level [1:08:48] we are [1:08:49] willing [1:08:49] to [1:08:49] follow [1:08:49] any [1:08:50] law [1:08:50] or [1:08:50] policy [1:08:50] that [1:08:51] will [1:08:51] help [1:08:51] lower [1:08:52] electricity [1:08:52] cost [1:08:53] and [1:08:53] make [1:08:53] power [1:08:54] more [1:08:54] affordable [1:08:55] for [1:08:55] our [1:08:55] consumers [1:08:56] our [1:08:57] only [1:08:57] request [1:08:57] is [1:08:58] for [1:08:58] our [1:08:58] regulating [1:08:58] agencies [1:08:59] to [1:08:59] provide [1:09:00] their [1:09:00] guidance [1:09:01] on [1:09:01] how [1:09:01] these [1:09:01] laws [1:09:02] should [1:09:02] be [1:09:03] implemented [1:09:03] this [1:09:04] will [1:09:05] help [1:09:05] ensure [1:09:07] that [1:09:07] we [1:09:07] can [1:09:08] comply [1:09:09] properly [1:09:09] without [1:09:09] affecting [1:09:10] the [1:09:10] financial [1:09:10] stability [1:09:11] of the [1:09:11] electric [1:09:11] cooperative [1:09:12] and [1:09:12] our [1:09:13] ability [1:09:13] to [1:09:14] continue [1:09:15] providing [1:09:15] service [1:09:16] so [1:09:18] in [1:09:18] closing [1:09:18] Palico [1:09:19] remains [1:09:19] committed [1:09:20] to [1:09:20] supporting [1:09:20] policies [1:09:21] that [1:09:21] promote [1:09:21] affordable [1:09:22] and [1:09:23] sustainable [1:09:23] electricity [1:09:24] service [1:09:24] protecting [1:09:25] the interest [1:09:26] of our [1:09:27] consumers [1:09:27] and [1:09:28] strengthen [1:09:28] the [1:09:28] electric [1:09:29] operators [1:09:29] thank you [1:09:30] very much [1:09:31] King [1:09:31] Browning [1:09:31] Wallet [1:09:32] Alam mo [1:09:33] Engineer [1:09:33] Rogelio [1:09:34] Bailon [1:09:34] kaba [1:09:35] nagsasalita [1:09:36] ka [1:09:36] yung mga [1:09:37] kaibigan [1:09:37] at kamag-anak [1:09:38] sa Palawan [1:09:39] nagteteks [1:09:39] at natatawa [1:09:40] lang sa [1:09:41] pinagsasabi mo [1:09:42] kasi [1:09:44] alam nyo naman [1:09:46] siguro [1:09:46] pag pumunta [1:09:47] ako ako [1:09:47] doon [1:09:48] pag dumadalo [1:09:49] ako [1:09:49] 3 days [1:09:49] 4 days [1:09:50] walang araw [1:09:51] na hindi [1:09:52] 3 days [1:09:53] na hindi [1:09:53] nag-brown [1:09:54] out [1:09:54] kaya ginawa [1:09:56] ko po [1:09:56] yung [1:09:56] sa opisina [1:09:56] ko po [1:09:57] doon [1:09:57] pinalagyan [1:09:57] ko po [1:09:58] ng generator [1:09:58] dahil [1:09:59] wala [1:09:59] po [1:09:59] kong tiwala [1:10:00] and [1:10:00] did you [1:10:00] kaya po [1:10:01] hindi umasenso [1:10:02] ang Palawan [1:10:02] wala po [1:10:03] nag-i-invest [1:10:04] because [1:10:05] brown out [1:10:06] po lagi [1:10:06] yung mga [1:10:07] kumpanya [1:10:07] yung mga [1:10:08] hotel [1:10:08] na gustong [1:10:09] pumaso [1:10:09] kailangan nilang [1:10:11] maglayay [1:10:11] ng mga [1:10:12] generators [1:10:12] maingay [1:10:13] po yung [1:10:13] generator [1:10:14] wala po [1:10:16] silang [1:10:16] maasahan [1:10:17] lagi nilang [1:10:18] brown out [1:10:19] para [1:10:20] hindi kayong [1:10:20] ormeco [1:10:21] brown out [1:10:23] na sobra [1:10:24] sobra [1:10:25] tapos [1:10:25] napakataas [1:10:26] pa [1:10:26] ang singil [1:10:27] sinasabi nyo [1:10:28] kanina [1:10:28] puro yung [1:10:29] tinutulak [1:10:29] yung problema [1:10:30] sa gobyerno [1:10:30] ganito [1:10:31] ganun [1:10:31] tinutulak [1:10:33] kayong [1:10:33] gagawin [1:10:35] lahat [1:10:35] inasa sa [1:10:36] NEA [1:10:38] inasa sa [1:10:38] ARC [1:10:39] wala ba [1:10:40] lang kayong [1:10:40] gagawin [1:10:41] kayo ng [1:10:43] dalawang [1:10:43] hindi [1:10:44] porkit [1:10:45] off-grid [1:10:46] kayo [1:10:46] wala na [1:10:46] magagawa [1:10:47] bakit may [1:10:47] mga [1:10:47] probinsya [1:10:48] naman [1:10:48] mga [1:10:48] off-grid [1:10:49] mga [1:10:50] panay [1:10:50] na yan [1:10:50] hindi [1:10:51] naman [1:10:51] panay [1:10:52] panay [1:10:52] ang brown [1:10:52] out [1:10:53] o [1:10:53] ilo-ilo [1:10:54] bakit [1:10:55] kayo [1:10:56] Mindoro [1:10:56] Palawan [1:10:58] mga [1:10:58] notorious [1:10:58] sa brown [1:10:59] out [1:10:59] kasi [1:11:01] ba [1:11:01] hindi [1:11:01] nakakarating [1:11:02] yung [1:11:02] sumbong [1:11:02] ng mga [1:11:03] tao [1:11:03] mga [1:11:06] po ninyo [1:11:06] kaya [1:11:06] marami [1:11:07] pong [1:11:07] gusto [1:11:07] mag [1:11:07] invest [1:11:08] I believe [1:11:09] yung [1:11:10] NGCP [1:11:12] gusto nilang [1:11:13] magtayo po [1:11:14] ng linya [1:11:14] dyan [1:11:14] yata [1:11:15] did I hear [1:11:16] it right [1:11:16] attorney [1:11:17] Alabanza [1:11:17] I heard [1:11:18] from [1:11:18] some of [1:11:19] your [1:11:19] executives [1:11:19] they're [1:11:20] willing [1:11:20] to put [1:11:21] up [1:11:21] lines [1:11:22] yung [1:11:22] independent [1:11:23] na [1:11:23] linya [1:11:24] from [1:11:24] north [1:11:25] to [1:11:25] south [1:11:25] from [1:11:26] Taytay [1:11:27] all the [1:11:28] way [1:11:28] to [1:11:28] Batarasa [1:11:29] para [1:11:30] magkaroon [1:11:31] lang [1:11:31] ng [1:11:31] linya [1:11:32] tapos [1:11:32] para [1:11:33] pumasok [1:11:34] maraming [1:11:35] investors [1:11:35] na [1:11:36] gustong pumasok [1:11:36] yes [1:11:37] mr. [1:11:38] chair [1:11:38] for so [1:11:38] long [1:11:39] as we [1:11:39] have [1:11:39] regulatory [1:11:40] and legal [1:11:40] support [1:11:41] we will [1:11:42] be of course [1:11:42] willing [1:11:42] you see [1:11:44] that [1:11:44] hindi [1:11:45] hindi [1:11:45] hindi [1:11:45] hindi [1:11:45] hindi [1:11:45] hindi [1:11:46] hindi [1:11:46] hindi [1:11:46] hindi [1:11:47] hindi [1:11:47] hindi [1:11:47] hindi [1:11:47] hindi [1:11:48] hindi [1:11:49] hindi [1:11:49] hindi [1:11:49] hindi [1:11:50] hindi [1:11:52] hindi [1:11:53] hindi [1:11:54] hindi [1:11:54] sa [1:11:54] dora [1:11:55] risa [1:11:56] subsidea [1:11:57] pa [1:11:58] tao [1:11:58] pala [1:11:59] nagsosubsidiya [1:11:59] sa [1:12:00] inyo [1:12:00] nagpapautang [1:12:02] ang [1:12:02] niya [1:12:03] kius [1:12:04] ko [1:12:04] naman [1:12:05] kung [1:12:06] hindi [1:12:06] nang [1:12:06] kaya [1:12:07] ibigay [1:12:08] nyo [1:12:08] na [1:12:08] sa [1:12:09] ibang [1:12:09] marami [1:12:09] nung [1:12:09] gusto [1:12:10] pumasok [1:12:10] sa [1:12:11] paglagay [1:12:12] ng [1:12:12] kuryente [1:12:13] paleko [1:12:14] or [1:12:14] meko [1:12:14] okay [1:12:17] who's [1:12:17] next [1:12:17] peninsula [1:12:21] electric [1:12:21] cooperative [1:12:22] you have [1:12:22] three [1:12:22] minutes [1:12:23] Mr. Chairperson, sir, and to all the honorable members of the committee, as well as the guests in today's hearing, good morning. [1:12:31] As one of the front lines towards electricity distribution, Penelco welcomes reforms aimed at strengthening regulatory mechanisms, enhancing rate transparency, and easing the cost of living for Filipino families. [1:12:43] With this in consideration, allow me to present Penelco's ground-level operational experience. [1:12:48] Una po sa issues sa tumataas na singil po ng kuryente, sa kasalukuyang instruktura po ng energy billing sa Pilipinas, consumers po ang sumasalo sa market-driven costs, lalo na sa aspeto po ng generation. [1:13:05] Kaya po anumang pagbabago sa presyo ng kuryente ang ginagamit ng mga consumers na binili ng mga distribution utility mula sa generation company, ay direkta pong naipapasa bilang isang exact pass-on cost. [1:13:16] Ibig pong sabihin, wala pong idinadagdag na tubo ang mga electric cooperatives dito. [1:13:22] Ang halaga po ng kuryente, particular na ang base load supply, ay lubhang naapektuhan ng mga hindi makontrol na macroeconomic factors, gaya ng consumer price index, [1:13:31] parings po at makakulangan sa power supply, unplanned outages, problema sa transmission lines, at line congestion, ay lalo pa pong nagpapataas sa generation at replacement cost. [1:13:48] Katulad po ng lahat ng distribution utilities, ang mga power supply agreements po ng Penelco ay dumadaan sa pagsusuri at inaaprubahan po ng Energy Regulatory Commission. [1:13:58] We also second the statement of Honorable Chairman Juan na kapag po hinihingaan namin ng fuel receipts ang mga generation companies para po i-validate ang mga pass-on cost na ito, [1:14:07] i-ginigiit po nila ang confidentiality clauses mula sa kanilang fuel purchase agreements. [1:14:12] Sa isang standard na bill po ng kuryente, nasa 75% ang napupunta sa generation at transmission, habang 15% ay napupunta sa government charges at taxes. [1:14:23] Katunayan na malaking bahagi po ng retail power rates ay dulot ng external cost at mga electric cooperatives, [1:14:30] ay nagsisilbi lamang pong collection agent na walang nakukuhang anumang financial benefit mula dito. [1:14:35] Sa katunayan po, tanging nasa 10% lamang ng bill ang naiiwan sa mga electric co-op para sa operation and maintenance po nito [1:14:45] sa pamamagitan ng distribution, supply and metering charges at reinvestment fund for sustainable GAPEX. [1:14:51] Unfortunately po, ang mga nabanggit na distribution at reinvestment rates ay hindi pa po gumagalaw o naa-adjust simula po noong taong 2010. [1:15:00] Para po sa Penelgo, katumbas lamang po ito ng 1 peso and 53 centavos per kilowatt hour o nasa 153.72 po para sa isang household na may 100 kilowatt hour consumption. [1:15:12] Bilang mga non-profit utilities po na sumasa ilalim sa isang strict cost recovery model, [1:15:18] nahaharap ang mga electric cooperatives sa isang existential threat habang pilit nilang binagkakasya [1:15:22] ang mga stagnant funds na ito laban sa tumataas na operational cost para maipagpatuloy ang mga critical na reliability projects at araw-araw na operasyon. [1:15:32] Gayunpaman, mayroon din pong ibang source of fund ang mga electric co-op tulad ng loans, subsidy at electrification fund under ER1-94. [1:15:40] Subalit ang pagkuha po ng loans mula sa mga banko o sa NEA, [1:15:44] ay nangangailangan na ang mga popondohang proyekto ay kasama po sa capital expenditure projects application na isinusumiti po namin sa ERC. [1:15:52] Bukod po dito, ang amortization para sa mga loans na ito ay kukuhanin din lamang po sa RFSC na sinusuportahan ng DSM. [1:16:01] Ibig sabihin po, ang mga loans po na ito ay para sa mga project o capital expenditure na hindi nagpapasok ng revenue sa mga electric cooperatives. [1:16:10] Patungkol naman po sa isyo ng reliability, sa kabila po ng mga financial constraints na ito, [1:16:16] ang Penelco ay nag-ooperate ng maayos sa loob ng safety margins na mahigpit na itinakda ng ERC para sa unplanned interruptions. [1:16:24] Ang unscheduled sci-fi o interruptions per customer po ng Penelco ay nasa 3.24 lamang kumpara sa allowable ERC cap na 20, [1:16:33] habang ang unscheduled sci-fi o duration nito ay nasa 254.9 minutes naman po kumpara sa ERC cap na 2,700 minutes. [1:16:42] Habang ang system loss naman po ng Penelco ay nasa 4.96% noong taong 2025 kumpara sa 8.25% na cap para sa cluster na kinabibilangan po ng Penelco. [1:16:55] Upang pagbigyang prioridad po ang mga long-term stability at efficiency na tagtagan po ang mga planned outages ng Penelco noong taong 2025 [1:17:04] upang maisagawa ang mga proyektong inaprobahan ng NEA at DOE sa ilalim po ng aming distribution development plan. [1:17:12] Ang targeted modernization push po na ito ay isang mahalagang investment upang palakasin ang distribution system ng Penelco [1:17:20] laban sa mga future unscheduled failures. Lahat po ng scheduled outages ay naka-optimize [1:17:25] at tinitiyak po na ang lahat ng posibleng maintenance at upgrading works ay ginagawa ng sabay-sabay [1:17:31] upang masiguro ang mataas na productivity sa oras po ng downtime. [1:17:36] Sa pagsasagawa ng mga ito, patuloy din pong nahaharap ang aming kooperatiba sa malalaking hamon [1:17:41] kapilang na rin po ang mga right-of-way issues sa mga government agencies at mga local government units. [1:17:47] Environmental protection hurdles, hindi pagsunod na mga contractors at ibang property owners [1:17:53] sa tamang transmission clearances, at ang sadyang matagal na procurement process. [1:17:58] Upang matiyak po naman na tatiling abot kaya ang kuryente at maging viable ang mga utilities, [1:18:03] may ilang legislative at regulatory reforms po kaming naisimungkahi. [1:18:07] Una po ang pagpapatupad ng VAT0 rating sa power generation ay magbibigay ng immediate at tangible relief [1:18:13] sa mga consumer nang hindi nahihirapan ng operasyon ng mga utilities. [1:18:17] Pangalawa po, may critical na pangangailangan para sa streamlined at napapanahong rate reset proceedings [1:18:23] upang ma-irationalize ang stagnant na DSM at RFSC rates nang sa gayon ay sumalamin nito sa tumataas na gastus. [1:18:31] Isinusulong din po namin ang papapalakas sa Energy Regulatory Commission [1:18:35] sa kondisyong mapanatili ng mga regulatory bodies ang sole and non-duplicative jurisdiction. [1:18:40] At mayroon po sanang kahit isang ERC commissioner na may actual na operational, technical, [1:18:46] o executive background sa loob po ng electric cooperative sector. [1:18:50] Bukod po dito, ang pagtatakda ng mahigpit na statutory action windows para po sa ERC approvals [1:18:56] ng CAPEX at PSA. [1:18:58] Ito po ay napakahalaga para maiwasan ang delay sa grid modernization. [1:19:02] Ang anumang state subsidies po ay kinakailangan din para may sapat na kondo mula sa gobyerno [1:19:08] o maisama po sa General Appropriations Act upang hindi ito maipasa bilang unrecoverable financial burden [1:19:15] sa mga distribution utilities at customers. [1:19:18] Legislatively, dapat pong linawin din sa Kongreso ang Section 57 ng EPIRA [1:19:23] upang masiguro ang perpetual exemption ng mga electric cooperatives mula sa income, franchise, at local taxes. [1:19:31] Finally, ang mga panuntunan sa net margin utilization ay dapat din pong i-align [1:19:35] sa rules for setting electric cooperatives billing rates [1:19:38] na sa halip na isagawa ang 50% flowback mandates [1:19:42] bilang pagkilala na ang mga margins mula sa other related business activities [1:19:47] ay ginagamit na rin po ng mga electric cooperatives sa pagpupondo po sa mga capital expenditures. [1:19:52] Penelco remains a steadfast partner of the national government [1:19:56] in advancing a resilient, transparent, and equitable energy landscape. [1:20:01] Your Honor, Sir, Penelco formally manifests that it has submitted its position paper [1:20:06] regarding the other Senate bills currently under review by this committee. [1:20:11] We respectfully urge the Senate Committee on Energy [1:20:13] to integrate these vital recommendations into the amendatory bills [1:20:17] ensuring our legislative framework truly safeguards both the structural integrity of our utility [1:20:22] and the long-term welfare of the Filipino consumer. [1:20:26] Thank you po and good morning. [1:20:27] Alright, thank you, Ms. Renee De Los Reyes, right? [1:20:31] Okay. [1:20:32] Meron lang pong sumbong dito, dumating mo at tinex po sa akin. [1:20:36] Tiga balang abataan siya. [1:20:38] Bakit tanong po sa Penelco, ang ilaw lang po ang bukas sa amin. [1:20:42] Halos walang tumitira. [1:20:44] Walang sirang aming metro. [1:20:46] Walang kaming appliances. [1:20:47] Bakit 4,000 ang singil. [1:20:50] Napakataas para sa naging consumption. [1:20:52] Sir, para po sa mga ganitong mga instances po, [1:20:56] ang patuloy naman po namin ina-advise sa mga customers namin na [1:21:00] pwede po silang pumunta sa mga office po namin. [1:21:04] Kasi meron din po, aminado po kami na may mga pagkakataon po talaga [1:21:08] na nagkakaroon ng pagkakamali sa pag-releasing. [1:21:10] Pero ang mga pagkakamali naman po na ito ay kinokorek naman po namin, Senator. [1:21:17] Magpunta lamang po sila sa mga offices po namin. [1:21:20] Ang problema, ma'am, hindi po lahat ng tao walang trabaho. [1:21:24] Paano makapunta sa opisina ninyo kung may trabaho? [1:21:28] Paano kung yung tiraan niya doon, i-bakasyonan niya lamang? [1:21:31] O paano kung mga senior citizen na nakatira? [1:21:34] Imbis na pumunta siya na magreklamo, mamasahi po siya sa inyong opisina, [1:21:38] hindi na lang po nila itutuloy. [1:21:42] I mean, that's a poor excuse. [1:21:45] Magreklamo dahil may... [1:21:47] Dapat po, trabaho ninyo yan at to deliver, [1:21:51] ika nga yung right bill, tama po yung amount. [1:21:54] Hindi po yung sasabihin pag may pagkakamali kami, [1:21:57] hindi ho uubra yan. [1:21:58] Kasi hindi po lahat ng tao may oras para magreklamo, Mr. Los Reyes. [1:22:02] Tama po, Senator. [1:22:03] And humingi po kami ng paumanhin sa mga pagkakamali pong ito. [1:22:07] Pero gayon din po, na-acknowledge po namin na meron nga pong, [1:22:10] hindi po lahat ng tao ay may oras para po magtungo sa may mga opisina. [1:22:14] Meron din po kaming mga email addresses na pwede po nilang pagpadalhan ng kanilang concern. [1:22:19] Gayon din po, meron na pong dinedevelop na mobile app po ang Penelco [1:22:23] para po doon na po nila ma-submit po yung kanilang mga concerns. [1:22:27] Okay, isa pa ang katanungan. [1:22:30] Kayo din ho yung kapatakbo ng kuryente sa Murong, di po ba? [1:22:37] Penelco po? [1:22:37] Sakop po ng franchise ng Penelco ang Murong. [1:22:41] Penelco yung Murong, di po ba? [1:22:42] Tama po. [1:22:43] Bakit po linggo-linggo ang brownout po doon? [1:22:45] I mean, minsan, kasunod, Friday, Saturday, [1:22:50] minsan, one hour lang naman. [1:22:51] Pero brownout o brownout, ang sagot po ng mga tao daw ninyo [1:22:56] na may tumawid na po sa kuryente, na kuryente, [1:22:59] kaya tumigil yung kuryente, [1:23:01] bumagsak yung poste dahil malakas ang hangin, [1:23:04] ano po, yung mga bulok na yung mga poste ninyo. [1:23:07] Pam, could you fix this problem? [1:23:09] Ano po, ay hindi ho po pwede. [1:23:11] We have a lot of excuses na mahal ang diesel, mahal ang coal. [1:23:16] Well, Ormeco, Paleco, and Penelco, kayong tatlo, [1:23:23] nakamonitor po ako sa inyo habang ako po ang committee chair ng energy dito. [1:23:27] I'll be watching you guys. I'll be watching you. [1:23:31] Senator Risa, you have questions? [1:23:33] Yes, salamat Mr. Chair. [1:23:35] Bago natin ipagpatuloy sa ating mga electric co-ops, [1:23:38] balikan ko lang po yung sa pangtanong dun sa systems loss charge [1:23:42] bago yung follow-up questions ko tungkol sa pass-through charges [1:23:47] in general na pinanggit ni Chair Juan Ganina. [1:23:51] So sa, may ipapakita po akong electric bill, [1:23:55] sample po ng electric bill, Mr. Chair, [1:23:57] tanong po sa DOE at saka sa ERC, [1:24:01] kung maalis na nga po yung systems loss charges, [1:24:05] magkano pong ibababa na charges sa monthly bill [1:24:11] ng average Filipino household kung ibate po natin sa ganitong bill? [1:24:16] Sa bill na ito, ang nasa third line systems loss, [1:24:28] may halagang P238 at P78 centavos. [1:24:32] So on average po, magkano'ng ibababa sa electric bill [1:24:36] ng average Filipino household kapag nasunod na yung pagtanggal [1:24:40] sa systems loss at yung VAT nun? [1:24:48] Yes, Mr. Chair. [1:24:48] Nakabatay kasi po yung cost, yung peso equivalent ng system loss na yan, [1:24:54] yung P238, dun sa konsumo, nung consumer na yan. [1:24:57] So magdedepende talaga po dun sa actual na konsumo [1:25:01] at saka kung ano yung makocompute ng utility [1:25:04] na magiging system loss charge niya para sa buwan na yun. [1:25:08] Pero kung may initial na po bang pagkwenta [1:25:11] in the last three days mula nung SONA, [1:25:14] given yung average consumption ng mga kabahayan nating mga Pilipino, [1:25:21] kung magkano on average yung maibabawas sa electric bill ng mga Pilipino? [1:25:29] Meron na po bang estimate? [1:25:33] Sa ngayon po, wala pa po kami na-estimate. [1:25:35] Ako po may isang estimate, Chair at Mr. Chair. [1:25:38] On average, P175 pesos ang mababawas sa electric bill. [1:25:44] Ito nga, more than, sabi nga ni SP, P238. [1:25:49] Siguro mas mataas ang konsumo nito sa average na Filipino household. [1:25:53] Pero kung i-average po natin, P175 pesos po makakaltas. [1:25:58] Hindi wala, pero maliit. [1:26:00] So balikan ko po yung pass-through charges na binanggit ni Chair Juan kanina. [1:26:08] Maliban sa systems loss charges, [1:26:11] na on average P175 pesos in systems loss charges mababawas sa electric bill nating mga Pinoy, [1:26:18] may iba pa bang mga pass-through charges ang pinapasalo sa consumer? [1:26:25] At pwede po bang ipaliwanag gagamit itong bill na fina-flash ko po? [1:26:31] Bukod sa systems loss charges, ano pa ba dyan yung may pass-through charges sa mga linyang iyan? [1:26:37] Sir, Risa, makasingit lang ako. [1:26:40] Siguro that Attorney Juan will be the right person to answer this. [1:26:45] Andami ako nakikita rito, [1:26:47] Generation 26, Transmission 360, System Loss 238, [1:26:53] Distribution, Miralco 507, Government Taxes 393, [1:26:58] yung mga malalaki lang, Universal Charged. [1:27:00] Ano ho ito? Bakit napakadami? [1:27:02] Ipinasa na lahat talaga sa tao. [1:27:05] Ano ho, can you explain ho? [1:27:07] Line by line. [1:27:09] Saan po itong generation, transmission, [1:27:11] system loss distribution? [1:27:13] Para maintindihan ng mga kababayan natin na nananood po ngayon. [1:27:17] Dahil lahat talaga na ipasa na sa atin. [1:27:19] Pati Government Taxes, tayo pa rin po ang nagbabayad. [1:27:22] Di po ba dapat yung nagninegosyo na? [1:27:25] Can you explain, Attorney Juan? [1:27:27] Salamat po, Mr. Chair. [1:27:29] Yung pong ipira under Section 36, [1:27:33] nirequire niya yung unbundling of rates. [1:27:35] At dahil po in-unbundle natin yung rates, [1:27:38] yung dating nakikita lang natin na isa o dalawang linya sa ating bill, [1:27:42] yung power purchase cost at saka yung distribution, [1:27:46] ngayon po ay nahimay na into these various charges. [1:27:49] Pero lahat naman din po ito ay magkocorespond din doon sa dating singilan. [1:27:54] Kaya lang noon ay bundled yung ating electricity bills. [1:27:58] Isa-isayin po natin itong iba't ibang charges na nakikita natin sa ating electricity bill. [1:28:04] Kung natanong po kanina kung ano pa yung pass-through charges bukod doon sa system loss, [1:28:10] actually, yun na lang pong napapapunta sa distribution utility ang ating tukuyin. [1:28:17] At ito lang po yung distribution, supply, and metering. [1:28:20] At ito po ay yung para sa kanyang pagnenegosyo ng pagdidistribute ng kuryente. [1:28:26] Ito po ay regulated ng ERC. [1:28:28] Kaya lang nabanggit na rin na nagkaroon ng pagkakaantala nga [1:28:32] yung pagre-reset ng ating singil, ng ating mga private distribution utilities [1:28:37] at ganoon din ang ating mga electric cooperatives. [1:28:40] Subalit ngayon ay kumagalaw na po yan. [1:28:42] Pero Chair Juan, at mamaya itatanong ko rin yung distribution sa Meralco, [1:28:46] may nalaktawan po kayong pinakamalaking item dyan, yung generation. [1:28:51] Pwede nyo po bang ikumpara ang generation sa, [1:28:54] halimbawa, yung system loss. [1:28:59] Anong percentage ng average bill nating mga Pinoy [1:29:02] ang pass-through sa generation charge [1:29:06] kumpara sa percentage. [1:29:08] Sabi natin, 5% ang percentage ng system loss charge na pass-through. [1:29:13] Ano yung percentage ng generation pass-through charge [1:29:17] ang nasa electric bill na pinapasalo sa consumer? [1:29:21] Opo, ito na nga po yung sisimulan na natin lahat ng mga pass-through charges. [1:29:26] Kasi nabanggit ko, [1:29:27] ang talagang hindi lang pass-through [1:29:29] ay yung distribution charge [1:29:31] na kasama dito yung supply and metering. [1:29:33] So simulan po natin sa pinakamalaki, [1:29:35] ang generation charge. [1:29:36] Ang generation charge po ang ibinabayad sa ating mga planta ng kuryente [1:29:40] na nagsusupply sa ating mga consumers. [1:29:43] Ang distribution utility, [1:29:45] siya ay nagpo-procure on behalf of the electric consumers [1:29:47] na kanyang customers. [1:29:49] At siya ang pumapasok sa mga kontrata noon [1:29:52] sa power supply agreements [1:29:53] o kaya naman ay bumubili sa [1:29:55] wholesale electricity spot market. [1:29:58] Kasama po dito sa binibili niyang kuryente [1:30:00] o yung pinuprocure niyang kuryente, [1:30:02] kasama nga dito yung mga napapapunta [1:30:04] o napapapasama sa system loss. [1:30:07] Dahil po, [1:30:08] kung ang kukuni niyang kuryente [1:30:10] mula sa mga generation companies [1:30:12] ay halimbawa na lang ay [1:30:14] isang daan, [1:30:15] pero po itong isang daan units na ito, [1:30:18] pagka ito ay na-distribute na sa mga customers, [1:30:21] hindi naman talaga actually isang daan [1:30:24] ang kanyang nagiging kilowatt hour sales [1:30:26] dahil nababawasan na nga po [1:30:28] nung system loss. [1:30:30] So, ito po, [1:30:31] ang percentage nito [1:30:32] kumpara doon sa generation [1:30:34] o yung quantity ng generation [1:30:36] ay nakabatay [1:30:37] doon sa kung ano [1:30:39] ang cap na umihiral [1:30:41] dahil po ang cap po [1:30:42] ang magdedetermina [1:30:45] kung hanggang saan lang po [1:30:46] ang masisingil ng ating mga distribution utilities [1:30:49] bilang cost [1:30:50] na associated [1:30:52] with these system losses. [1:30:54] So, in the case of [1:30:55] Miralco halimbawa po, [1:30:56] dahil ito ay [1:30:57] nasa 5.5% [1:31:00] ang cap. [1:31:01] At ito po, [1:31:02] ilinawin ko, [1:31:03] ito ay distribution feeder [1:31:04] na cap [1:31:06] at dahil po, [1:31:07] meron din na [1:31:08] system loss [1:31:10] associated with [1:31:11] sub-transmission [1:31:12] at saka sub-station [1:31:13] at ito naman po [1:31:15] ang idinadagdag pa [1:31:16] doon sa [1:31:17] 5.5% na cap na yan [1:31:19] kaya't ang [1:31:20] sabi na nga din [1:31:21] ng Miralco [1:31:22] sa press release niya [1:31:23] kaabot [1:31:23] ay ang paabot [1:31:24] ng mga 6.5% [1:31:25] ang kanyang nagiging cap [1:31:27] akasingit lang ako [1:31:28] Yes, Mr. Chip. [1:31:29] One question lang. [1:31:31] Meron din po ba [1:31:32] sa generation [1:31:33] may systems loss [1:31:35] na kagad [1:31:35] pag binili po [1:31:36] ng Miralco yan [1:31:38] may systems loss [1:31:39] na? [1:31:39] Tama po ba? [1:31:41] Did I hear you right? [1:31:42] Opo at the level [1:31:44] yun po yung pagbili niya [1:31:46] pagbili niya [1:31:48] sa generation [1:31:49] kung may systems loss [1:31:51] na yun [1:31:52] sinacharge din po ba [1:31:54] sa mga [1:31:54] mama yan [1:31:55] yung pagkawala [1:31:57] dahil syempre [1:31:57] generation din po ba [1:31:58] from the generator [1:32:00] to the distributor [1:32:01] may systems loss [1:32:02] doon [1:32:03] ikinakarga na naman po [1:32:05] ba sa bill [1:32:05] po namin yan? [1:32:07] Ito po ay [1:32:08] nakapaloob [1:32:08] dun sa generation [1:32:10] cost din [1:32:10] o yung pagbenta [1:32:11] ng ating mga [1:32:13] generation na [1:32:13] Yeah, kaya sir [1:32:14] pero doble-doble na ho [1:32:15] di ba [1:32:16] meron na systems loss [1:32:17] sa generation [1:32:18] doon sa [1:32:19] 2,603 na yan [1:32:21] na siningil [1:32:22] na pinatong na [1:32:23] meron ba talagang [1:32:24] Diyos ko po [1:32:25] systems loss [1:32:28] tayo na [1:32:29] magkano ba yung [1:32:31] kanina [1:32:32] yung systems loss [1:32:33] na [1:32:34] nakapaloob na naman [1:32:36] so ang dami na [1:32:37] hong [1:32:37] systems loss [1:32:39] systems loss ka na [1:32:40] sa generation [1:32:41] di po ba [1:32:41] papunta dun sa [1:32:42] distributor [1:32:43] si distributor [1:32:44] dadalhin yung [1:32:46] kurente sa bahay [1:32:46] ko [1:32:47] nagkaroon ng [1:32:48] systems loss [1:32:48] dahil nag-evaporate [1:32:49] another single [1:32:50] na naman po ba yun? [1:32:52] Opo, yung [1:32:53] transmission loss [1:32:54] at that level [1:32:55] of the transmission [1:32:56] ito po ay [1:32:57] naka-embed [1:32:57] dun sa presyo [1:32:58] ng ating [1:32:59] mga generation [1:33:00] plans [1:33:00] So what you're saying [1:33:01] sir [1:33:02] kung alisin mo [1:33:03] yung systems [1:33:04] sa generation [1:33:05] sila naman [1:33:06] nag-uusap [1:33:06] dalawa nun [1:33:07] from the generation [1:33:08] to the distributor [1:33:09] di po ba [1:33:10] bakit kailangan [1:33:11] singilin na ho kami [1:33:12] hindi pa dumarating [1:33:13] yung kuryente [1:33:14] papunta sa bahay [1:33:14] namin [1:33:15] di po ba? [1:33:17] Opo, [1:33:18] depende po kasi yan [1:33:19] sa kung ano [1:33:19] ang usapan [1:33:20] ng generation [1:33:21] company [1:33:22] at ng [1:33:23] distribution utility [1:33:24] kung saan [1:33:25] i-re-recon yung [1:33:26] kilowatt hours [1:33:28] na i-memetrohan [1:33:30] na nanggaling [1:33:31] mula sa planta [1:33:32] at madadala [1:33:33] papunta doon [1:33:34] sa delivery point [1:33:35] ng distribution utility [1:33:37] dahil ito po [1:33:38] ay transmission [1:33:38] kumpara naman [1:33:39] sa distribution [1:33:40] mas mabababa [1:33:41] ang percentage [1:33:43] ng ating losses [1:33:44] na na-experience [1:33:45] yung technical losses [1:33:46] ito kalimitan [1:33:48] dahil nga [1:33:48] mahirap naman din [1:33:49] magnakausa [1:33:50] at the transmission [1:33:51] voltage level [1:33:52] so pag nating na po [1:33:54] ng kuryente na yan [1:33:56] na binili [1:33:56] ng distribution utilities [1:33:58] natin [1:33:59] on behalf of its [1:34:00] customers [1:34:01] yung pong presyo na yan [1:34:02] ay kung ano [1:34:03] yung presyong [1:34:04] babayaran naman niya [1:34:05] doon sa mga [1:34:06] generation companies [1:34:07] at yung presyo na yan [1:34:08] nakapaloob na dyan [1:34:09] yung kung ano man [1:34:11] ang naging efekto [1:34:12] noong cost na yan [1:34:13] ng transmission [1:34:14] Chair Juan [1:34:16] focus lang tayo [1:34:18] dito sa generation [1:34:19] at kung pwede [1:34:20] bagalan po natin [1:34:21] kasi napaka-technical [1:34:23] pero gusto po natin [1:34:24] at dapat maintindihan [1:34:25] ng mga consumers [1:34:27] natin [1:34:27] kasi nagkaroon [1:34:28] ng opening [1:34:29] dun sa pagtanggal [1:34:31] ng systems loss [1:34:32] charge at VAT [1:34:33] dun [1:34:33] para patuloy natin [1:34:34] reformahin yung [1:34:35] energy sector natin [1:34:37] yun sa generation charge [1:34:39] kasi siya po [1:34:39] yung pinakamalaki [1:34:40] ano po yung basehan [1:34:42] na pinapayagan [1:34:43] ng ERC [1:34:44] mapass through [1:34:45] yung charge dyan [1:34:46] at mapasalo [1:34:47] sa ating mga consumers [1:34:48] yung nakabasihan po natin [1:34:52] ay yung section 25 [1:34:53] ng IPIRA [1:34:54] na kung saan [1:34:54] nire-regulate [1:34:55] ng ERC [1:34:56] ang retail rates [1:34:57] para sa [1:34:58] captive market [1:34:59] ng distribution utilities [1:35:00] ang retail rates po [1:35:02] kasama dito [1:35:03] ang generation [1:35:03] nakabatay po yan [1:35:05] sa definition [1:35:05] ng retail rates [1:35:06] na nasa IPIRA din [1:35:07] Okay po sir [1:35:08] so paano po [1:35:09] kinikwenta ng ERC [1:35:11] exacto [1:35:12] at saka fair [1:35:13] kung magkano dapat [1:35:15] yung generation charge [1:35:17] na lumalabas [1:35:18] pass through charge siya [1:35:19] na lumalabas [1:35:20] sa bawat bill natin [1:35:22] sinecheck nyo po [1:35:23] muna [1:35:24] bago ipasa [1:35:25] at ipasalo [1:35:26] sa consumer [1:35:27] o meron ba dyang [1:35:27] generation charge [1:35:29] na lumalabas [1:35:30] sa bill [1:35:30] na yung pala [1:35:31] ay halos doble [1:35:32] o higit doble [1:35:33] sa presyo [1:35:34] na dapat [1:35:35] batay sa kontrata [1:35:36] ang paraan po [1:35:40] ng pagtatakda [1:35:41] ng generation charge [1:35:42] dahil nga po [1:35:43] ito ay nagbabago-bago [1:35:45] buwan-buwan [1:35:45] depende dun [1:35:46] sa pinagkuna [1:35:47] ng ating [1:35:47] distribution utilities [1:35:49] ang ating [1:35:50] pinapagamit [1:35:52] sa ating mga [1:35:52] distribution utilities [1:35:54] ay yung [1:35:55] ating [1:35:55] generation rate [1:35:56] adjustment formula [1:35:58] na kung saan [1:35:59] ang lahat [1:36:00] ng billings [1:36:01] ng mga [1:36:02] generation companies [1:36:03] na pinagkuna [1:36:04] ng isang [1:36:05] distribution utility [1:36:06] noong nakalipas [1:36:08] na supply month [1:36:09] ito po ay [1:36:10] ito total [1:36:11] at [1:36:11] i-divide [1:36:12] effectively [1:36:13] ito po [1:36:15] ang i-re-recover [1:36:16] ng ating [1:36:17] mga distribution utilities [1:36:19] pero po [1:36:20] para matukoy [1:36:21] kung at what rate [1:36:23] so ito pong [1:36:24] total peso [1:36:24] amount na ito [1:36:26] i-divide po [1:36:27] ng kilowatt hours [1:36:28] pero [1:36:29] since sa pagpapataw po [1:36:30] ng generation charge [1:36:31] na yan [1:36:32] para sa susunod na buwan [1:36:33] hindi pa po available [1:36:35] yung kilowatt hours [1:36:36] na yan [1:36:36] para sa buwan na yun [1:36:38] ang gagamitin po muna [1:36:39] ay yung kilowatt hours [1:36:41] noong nakaraang buwan [1:36:42] ito po yung [1:36:42] billing determinant [1:36:43] so [1:36:44] ganyan po natin [1:36:45] na-re-regulate [1:36:47] na-tutukoy [1:36:49] yung generation charge [1:36:50] buwan-buwan [1:36:51] at nagkaroon na rin po [1:36:52] ng kaso [1:36:54] sa Korte Suprema [1:36:55] umabot ito [1:36:56] dahil ganito rin po [1:36:57] ang paraan dati [1:36:58] ng pagsisingil [1:37:00] ng generation [1:37:00] even before ipira [1:37:02] at ito naman po [1:37:03] ay pinapadaan [1:37:04] through the [1:37:05] power purchase [1:37:05] adjustment [1:37:06] at ito po [1:37:08] sinabi ng [1:37:08] Korte Suprema [1:37:10] kasama na rin [1:37:11] yung mga [1:37:12] escalator crosses [1:37:13] fuel [1:37:13] cost mechanisms [1:37:15] kasama po ito [1:37:16] doon sa mga [1:37:17] mekanismo [1:37:18] na umiira [1:37:19] na pinapayagan din [1:37:20] naman [1:37:21] dahil po [1:37:21] ayun chair [1:37:22] sorry to interrupt [1:37:23] pero importante [1:37:24] yung isang kapapanggit [1:37:25] nyo [1:37:25] yung fuel [1:37:26] cost mechanism [1:37:27] fuel [1:37:27] yun yung isang item [1:37:29] na pre-generation [1:37:30] pre-transmission [1:37:32] pre-distribution [1:37:33] hindi lumalabas [1:37:35] explicitly sa bill [1:37:36] pero nung unang [1:37:37] hearing [1:37:38] hiningi ni [1:37:39] SP Sherwin [1:37:40] ang isang audit [1:37:41] na gawin [1:37:42] ng ERC [1:37:43] tungkol dun sa [1:37:44] fuel [1:37:44] charges [1:37:46] totoo po ba [1:37:47] na natigil [1:37:47] yung audit [1:37:48] na yan [1:37:48] at kung totoo [1:37:49] bakit po natigil [1:37:51] Mayroong po [1:37:54] specific na audit [1:37:55] na ipinatupad [1:37:57] noong nakaraan [1:37:58] at ito ay [1:37:58] specific dahil [1:37:59] nung nagkaroon [1:38:00] ng pagtataas [1:38:01] sa singil [1:38:03] sa kuryente [1:38:04] dulot ng [1:38:04] Ukraine war [1:38:05] at nagkaroon [1:38:06] ng pagtaas [1:38:06] yung mga [1:38:07] fuel cost [1:38:08] ng ating [1:38:09] mga generation [1:38:10] companies [1:38:11] nagkaroon nga po [1:38:12] ng audit [1:38:12] at ang ginawa [1:38:13] ng ERC [1:38:14] noon [1:38:14] ay pinagproduce [1:38:16] ang mga [1:38:17] generation companies [1:38:19] at distribution [1:38:19] utilities [1:38:20] ng kanilig [1:38:21] kanilang mga [1:38:21] kontrata [1:38:22] ng tungkol [1:38:24] sa supply [1:38:24] marami [1:38:25] doon sa [1:38:26] mga [1:38:26] mga [1:38:27] hiningan [1:38:28] ng ganitong [1:38:29] datos [1:38:30] o informasyon [1:38:31] ang hindi [1:38:32] nakapagbigay [1:38:33] at nag-a-allege [1:38:34] na mayroong [1:38:35] confidentiality [1:38:36] clauses [1:38:36] yung kanilang [1:38:37] mga fuel [1:38:38] supply [1:38:38] at [1:38:40] doon [1:38:40] nga po [1:38:41] nagkapos [1:38:42] yun [1:38:42] at [1:38:43] nagpalabas [1:38:44] ang ERC [1:38:45] ng mga [1:38:46] show cost [1:38:47] orders [1:38:47] para doon [1:38:48] sa hindi nila [1:38:48] pagtupa [1:38:49] doon sa [1:38:49] pagtalima [1:38:50] doon sa [1:38:51] kautosan [1:38:52] ng komisyon [1:38:52] at [1:38:53] kahapon [1:38:53] lang [1:38:54] para [1:38:54] naman [1:38:54] doon sa [1:38:55] pinag-uutos [1:38:57] ni [1:38:57] senator [1:38:57] senate [1:38:59] president [1:38:59] wing [1:39:00] gatchalian [1:39:01] na magkaroon [1:39:01] kami ng [1:39:02] audit [1:39:03] upang [1:39:03] matukoy [1:39:03] naman [1:39:04] kung bakit [1:39:04] pataas [1:39:05] ng pataas [1:39:06] at itong [1:39:07] first [1:39:07] six months [1:39:08] of the month [1:39:08] yung mga [1:39:09] generation [1:39:10] charges [1:39:10] kahapon po [1:39:11] ay nag-aproba [1:39:12] na ang [1:39:12] komisyon [1:39:13] ng audit [1:39:14] procedure [1:39:14] niya [1:39:14] sa isasagawang [1:39:16] pag-audit [1:39:17] ng fuel [1:39:18] cost [1:39:18] ang layunin [1:39:19] naman po [1:39:20] namin [1:39:20] ay matukoy [1:39:21] kung talagang [1:39:22] naipatutupad [1:39:23] yung mga [1:39:23] fuel [1:39:24] adjustment [1:39:24] formula [1:39:25] kasi po [1:39:26] yung fuel [1:39:27] pass-through [1:39:29] adjustments [1:39:30] ng mga [1:39:31] PSA [1:39:32] karaniwan [1:39:33] ito [1:39:33] ay hindi [1:39:33] naman nakabatay [1:39:34] doon sa [1:39:35] actual na [1:39:35] fuel [1:39:36] cost [1:39:37] na batay [1:39:37] sa kontrata [1:39:38] kundi [1:39:38] sa mga [1:39:39] indices [1:39:39] or benchmarks [1:39:40] so [1:39:41] ang layunin [1:39:42] po [1:39:42] namin [1:39:42] ngayon [1:39:42] ay makita [1:39:43] kung talagang [1:39:44] tama [1:39:45] ang ginagamit [1:39:46] base [1:39:46] doon sa [1:39:47] aprobado [1:39:47] power supply [1:39:48] agreement [1:39:49] at kung [1:39:49] naipatutupad [1:39:50] nga [1:39:50] ng ating [1:39:51] mga [1:39:51] generation [1:39:52] companies [1:39:53] yung mga [1:39:54] CAPS [1:39:54] kasi [1:39:55] meron din [1:39:55] po [1:39:55] naman [1:39:55] nakapaloob [1:39:56] karaniwan [1:39:57] doon sa [1:39:57] pag-aproba [1:39:58] ng [1:39:58] ERC [1:39:59] na [1:39:59] maaaring [1:40:00] i-adjust [1:40:01] maaaring [1:40:01] i-recover [1:40:02] yung [1:40:02] adjustments [1:40:03] sa cost [1:40:04] of fuel [1:40:04] pero [1:40:05] subject [1:40:05] din ito [1:40:06] sa CAPS [1:40:06] ito [1:40:07] po [1:40:07] ang layunin [1:40:08] ng aming [1:40:08] isasagawang [1:40:09] audit [1:40:09] at [1:40:09] magsisimula [1:40:10] na nga [1:40:10] po ito [1:40:11] with the [1:40:12] approval [1:40:12] yesterday [1:40:13] of our [1:40:13] audit [1:40:14] procedure [1:40:14] Well [1:40:15] mabuhay [1:40:16] po ang [1:40:16] ERC [1:40:17] kung [1:40:17] naglabas [1:40:18] kayo [1:40:18] ulit [1:40:18] ng [1:40:18] audit [1:40:20] procedure [1:40:20] ibig [1:40:21] po [1:40:21] bang [1:40:21] sabihin [1:40:22] na [1:40:22] yung [1:40:22] mga [1:40:22] dating [1:40:23] hindi [1:40:23] nagbigay [1:40:25] ay [1:40:26] makokompel [1:40:27] na rin [1:40:28] magbigay [1:40:29] nung [1:40:30] datos [1:40:30] nila [1:40:31] tungkol [1:40:31] sa [1:40:31] fuel [1:40:32] costs [1:40:33] nila [1:40:34] ilan [1:40:35] po [1:40:35] ba [1:40:35] yung [1:40:36] show [1:40:36] cost [1:40:36] order [1:40:37] noon [1:40:37] na [1:40:37] sinunod [1:40:38] at [1:40:38] ilan [1:40:39] yung [1:40:39] hindi [1:40:40] sumunod [1:40:41] dahil [1:40:41] di [1:40:42] umano [1:40:42] sa [1:40:42] confidentiality [1:40:43] pero [1:40:44] lahat [1:40:44] po ba [1:40:45] sila [1:40:45] ngayon [1:40:46] kasunod [1:40:47] ng [1:40:47] kiningi [1:40:48] ni [1:40:48] Senate [1:40:48] President [1:40:49] Sherwin [1:40:49] at [1:40:50] itong [1:40:50] audit [1:40:51] procedure [1:40:52] nyo [1:40:52] makokumpleto [1:40:54] na po [1:40:55] ba [1:40:55] ng [1:40:55] ERC [1:40:55] yung [1:40:56] larawan [1:40:57] niyang [1:40:58] fuel [1:40:58] na [1:40:59] mahalagang [1:41:00] factor [1:41:00] sa [1:41:01] generation [1:41:01] pass [1:41:02] through [1:41:02] na [1:41:02] pinakamalaking [1:41:03] item [1:41:04] sa [1:41:04] electric [1:41:04] bill [1:41:04] po [1:41:05] Ngayon [1:41:06] po [1:41:06] ay [1:41:06] sinisimula [1:41:07] namin [1:41:08] dahil [1:41:08] kinuuna [1:41:10] lang po [1:41:10] namin [1:41:10] kung ano [1:41:11] yung [1:41:11] mas [1:41:11] urgent [1:41:11] ito [1:41:12] pong [1:41:12] sa [1:41:13] current [1:41:13] na [1:41:14] pag-audit [1:41:15] namin [1:41:15] at [1:41:16] matapos [1:41:16] ito [1:41:16] if [1:41:17] this [1:41:17] will [1:41:18] already [1:41:18] be [1:41:18] in [1:41:19] place [1:41:19] tinitingnan [1:41:20] po [1:41:20] namin [1:41:20] kung [1:41:20] ano [1:41:21] yung [1:41:21] nararapat [1:41:22] na [1:41:22] amendments [1:41:23] sa [1:41:24] aming [1:41:24] umiiral [1:41:25] na [1:41:25] generation [1:41:27] charge [1:41:29] adjustment [1:41:30] mechanism [1:41:32] kung [1:41:32] maaaring [1:41:33] meron [1:41:33] ganito [1:41:34] munang [1:41:34] verification [1:41:35] na [1:41:35] gagawin [1:41:36] ng [1:41:36] ERC [1:41:37] kahit [1:41:37] mabilisan [1:41:38] lang [1:41:38] bago [1:41:39] magpapatupad [1:41:40] ang ating [1:41:40] mga [1:41:40] distribution [1:41:41] utilities [1:41:42] ng [1:41:42] kanilang [1:41:42] generation [1:41:44] charges [1:41:44] and other [1:41:45] charges [1:41:45] for the [1:41:46] current [1:41:46] mat [1:41:47] limitasyon [1:41:49] namin [1:41:49] bukod [1:41:49] sa [1:41:50] personnel [1:41:51] at [1:41:51] resources [1:41:53] ng [1:41:53] commission [1:41:54] ay yung [1:41:54] time [1:41:54] meron po [1:41:55] din kasing [1:41:56] time [1:41:56] element [1:41:57] na [1:41:57] involved [1:41:57] dito [1:41:58] dahil [1:41:58] maikli [1:42:00] lang [1:42:00] ang window [1:42:01] na pinag-uusapan [1:42:02] natin [1:42:02] kung saan [1:42:03] kung hindi [1:42:04] kaagad [1:42:04] magkakaroon [1:42:05] ng bagong [1:42:06] singil [1:42:07] ang ating [1:42:07] mga [1:42:07] distribution [1:42:08] utilities [1:42:09] halimbawa [1:42:10] ay [1:42:10] itong [1:42:11] nakaraang [1:42:11] buwan [1:42:11] ay talagang [1:42:12] tumaas [1:42:12] naman [1:42:13] ang [1:42:13] kanilang [1:42:14] kuha [1:42:15] ng [1:42:15] generation [1:42:16] mula [1:42:16] sa mga [1:42:16] generation [1:42:17] companies [1:42:17] at kung [1:42:18] ito [1:42:18] ay hindi [1:42:19] kaagad [1:42:19] nila [1:42:19] maipatutupad [1:42:22] ang [1:42:22] adjustment [1:42:22] sa kanilang [1:42:23] generation [1:42:23] charge [1:42:24] mga [1:42:24] ngahulugan [1:42:25] ito [1:42:25] na meron [1:42:26] sila [1:42:26] nga hawak [1:42:27] ang cost [1:42:27] na wala [1:42:28] naman [1:42:28] sa kanilang [1:42:29] taripa [1:42:29] so [1:42:30] pwede [1:42:31] na [1:42:31] kung [1:42:31] mayroon [1:42:32] talagang [1:42:32] delay [1:42:33] na [1:42:34] mangyayari [1:42:34] dahil [1:42:35] sa pre-audit [1:42:36] na gagawin [1:42:37] ng ERC [1:42:38] ay [1:42:38] titignan [1:42:39] naman [1:42:39] namin [1:42:40] kung paano [1:42:40] matutulungan [1:42:41] yung mga [1:42:41] distribution [1:42:42] utilities [1:42:43] dahil [1:42:43] sila [1:42:43] naman [1:42:43] ay [1:42:44] sisingili [1:42:45] na [1:42:45] nung kanilang [1:42:46] supplier [1:42:46] na nagsupply [1:42:47] nitong [1:42:47] nakaraang [1:42:48] but [1:42:48] pero [1:42:48] hindi pa [1:42:49] nila [1:42:49] makolekta [1:42:49] for the [1:42:50] ensuing [1:42:51] month [1:42:51] pero [1:42:52] chair [1:42:52] kung [1:42:53] magkaroon [1:42:53] man [1:42:53] ng [1:42:54] delay [1:42:54] at [1:42:54] sana [1:42:55] kung [1:42:55] magkaroon [1:42:55] maigli [1:42:56] lamang [1:42:56] ito [1:42:57] kailangan [1:42:58] namang [1:42:58] tapusin [1:43:00] yung [1:43:00] audit [1:43:00] kasi [1:43:01] kung [1:43:01] hindi [1:43:01] matapos [1:43:02] ng [1:43:02] ERC [1:43:02] ang [1:43:03] audit [1:43:03] paano [1:43:04] nyo [1:43:04] malalaman [1:43:04] ano [1:43:05] yung [1:43:05] tamang [1:43:06] bataya [1:43:07] ng [1:43:07] fuel [1:43:08] cost [1:43:09] na item [1:43:09] na yan [1:43:10] na [1:43:10] malaking [1:43:11] factor [1:43:11] doon [1:43:11] sa item [1:43:12] ng [1:43:12] generation [1:43:12] sa [1:43:13] building [1:43:13] po [1:43:13] ba [1:43:13] meron [1:43:15] naman [1:43:15] po [1:43:16] talagang [1:43:16] post [1:43:17] audit [1:43:17] na [1:43:18] confirmation [1:43:18] process [1:43:19] na [1:43:19] isinasagawa [1:43:20] namin [1:43:20] kaya [1:43:21] lang [1:43:21] ito [1:43:21] ay [1:43:22] inischedule [1:43:23] namin [1:43:24] ng [1:43:24] over [1:43:24] 3 [1:43:25] years [1:43:25] dahil [1:43:26] sa dami [1:43:27] na rin [1:43:27] po [1:43:27] nung [1:43:27] ating [1:43:28] mga [1:43:28] distribution [1:43:29] utilities [1:43:29] may [1:43:30] 140 [1:43:30] sila [1:43:31] so [1:43:31] ginrupo [1:43:32] namin [1:43:32] ng [1:43:32] Luzon [1:43:33] Visayas [1:43:33] Pintanao [1:43:34] kada [1:43:34] isang [1:43:35] taon [1:43:35] na [1:43:35] nagdaan [1:43:36] mayroong [1:43:37] isang [1:43:38] distribution [1:43:38] grupo [1:43:39] ng [1:43:40] distribution [1:43:40] utilities [1:43:41] ang magsusumite [1:43:42] ng kanilang [1:43:42] confirmation [1:43:43] so [1:43:43] post audit [1:43:44] po [1:43:44] natitingnan [1:43:45] lahat [1:43:45] ng mga [1:43:45] resibong [1:43:46] at lahat [1:43:48] ng [1:43:48] supporting [1:43:48] documents [1:43:49] na isinusumite [1:43:50] ng ating [1:43:50] mga [1:43:51] distribution [1:43:51] utilities [1:43:52] sa [1:43:52] ERC [1:43:53] 1-1 [1:43:53] pero [1:43:54] yun nga [1:43:54] din po [1:43:55] ang tinitingnan [1:43:55] namin [1:43:56] kung paano [1:43:56] pa ito [1:43:57] medyo [1:43:57] mas [1:43:57] masisiksik [1:43:58] yung [1:43:59] timeline [1:43:59] mas [1:44:00] mas [1:44:00] immediate [1:44:02] ang magiging [1:44:03] action po [1:44:03] namin [1:44:04] o [1:44:04] please [1:44:04] chair [1:44:05] mr. [1:44:05] chair [1:44:06] immediate [1:44:06] hindi na [1:44:07] kayang [1:44:07] magintay [1:44:08] ng 3 [1:44:08] taon [1:44:09] yung [1:44:10] ayaw natin [1:44:11] ng may [1:44:12] delay [1:44:13] sa mga [1:44:14] distributors [1:44:15] pero siguro [1:44:16] mas manipis pa [1:44:17] yung buffer [1:44:18] ng mga [1:44:18] consumers [1:44:19] para [1:44:20] makapaginta [1:44:21] hindi lang [1:44:22] sa mga [1:44:22] refund [1:44:22] na ang [1:44:23] tagal-tagal [1:44:23] mangyari [1:44:24] pero [1:44:25] na magkaroon [1:44:25] ng [1:44:26] pagbabasa [1:44:27] tama [1:44:27] namang [1:44:28] dapat [1:44:28] isingil [1:44:29] sa kanila [1:44:30] and [1:44:30] malaking [1:44:31] inaasahan [1:44:31] po [1:44:31] doon [1:44:32] yung [1:44:33] audit [1:44:33] ng [1:44:34] ERC [1:44:34] mr. [1:44:35] chair [1:44:35] last [1:44:36] question [1:44:36] ko [1:44:37] sa [1:44:37] topic [1:44:37] na [1:44:37] to [1:44:37] gusto [1:44:38] ko [1:44:38] i-flash [1:44:39] yung [1:44:39] isang [1:44:39] letter [1:44:40] na [1:44:40] pindadala [1:44:41] ng [1:44:42] ERC [1:44:42] kay [1:44:44] senate [1:44:44] president [1:44:45] at ito [1:44:45] ay [1:44:46] nagpapakita [1:44:47] na may [1:44:47] mga [1:44:48] generation [1:44:48] companies [1:44:49] talaga [1:44:49] ayaw [1:44:50] magbigay [1:44:51] ng kanilang [1:44:51] mga [1:44:51] resibo [1:44:52] para sa [1:44:53] audit [1:44:53] na yan [1:44:54] so [1:44:55] chair [1:44:56] ibig [1:44:56] po [1:44:56] ibig po [1:44:56] bang [1:44:56] sabihin [1:44:57] sa [1:44:57] sulat [1:44:58] na ito [1:44:59] bukod [1:45:00] sa [1:45:00] nawawalang [1:45:01] kuryente [1:45:01] bunga [1:45:02] ng [1:45:03] systems [1:45:03] laws [1:45:04] na [1:45:05] unang [1:45:06] agenda [1:45:06] natin [1:45:06] sa [1:45:07] hearing [1:45:07] ngayong [1:45:08] umaga [1:45:08] na [1:45:09] may [1:45:10] nawawala [1:45:10] rin [1:45:11] mga [1:45:11] resibo [1:45:11] mula [1:45:12] sa [1:45:12] generation [1:45:15] costs [1:45:15] na maaring [1:45:16] naipapasa [1:45:17] na rin [1:45:17] na [1:45:18] napapas [1:45:18] through [1:45:18] na rin [1:45:18] napapasalo [1:45:19] na sa [1:45:20] consumers [1:45:20] kahit [1:45:21] nga po [1:45:21] hindi [1:45:23] napapayagan [1:45:23] makompleto [1:45:24] ang audit [1:45:25] ng ERC [1:45:26] Pagdating naman po [1:45:29] sa resibo [1:45:29] alam naman natin [1:45:30] na kumpleto [1:45:31] yung sinusumite [1:45:32] buwan-buwan [1:45:32] ng ating mga [1:45:33] distribution utilities [1:45:34] na supporting [1:45:35] documents nila [1:45:36] sa kalkulasyon nila [1:45:37] ng kanilang [1:45:38] pass-through charges [1:45:38] at kasama na nga [1:45:39] dito [1:45:40] ang generation charge [1:45:41] So balit [1:45:42] kung gusto nga [1:45:43] talaga natin [1:45:43] na mas lalaliman pa [1:45:44] at [1:45:45] beberipikahin [1:45:46] kung tama naman [1:45:47] talaga [1:45:47] yung sinisingil [1:45:49] ng generation [1:45:49] o yung [1:45:50] binibill [1:45:50] ng generation [1:45:51] company [1:45:52] Ang alam naman po [1:45:53] natin [1:45:53] marami sa ating [1:45:54] mga utilities [1:45:55] ang nakikipag-upuan [1:45:57] sa kanilang [1:45:57] generation [1:45:58] supplier [1:45:59] bago pa man [1:46:00] nilatanggapin [1:46:01] yung billing na yan [1:46:02] at nagkakaroon sila [1:46:03] ng reconciliation [1:46:04] at determination [1:46:05] kung naayon nga yun [1:46:07] sa aprobatong formula [1:46:08] pero [1:46:08] ito po ay [1:46:09] aksyon [1:46:10] ng ating mga [1:46:11] distribution utilities [1:46:12] at alam po namin [1:46:13] aminato kami [1:46:14] na dapat ang ERC po [1:46:15] ay titingin din [1:46:17] para nang sa ganun [1:46:18] ay masiguro [1:46:19] na tama lahat [1:46:20] ang paniningil [1:46:20] ng ating mga [1:46:21] generation companies [1:46:22] sa ating mga [1:46:22] distribution utilities [1:46:23] at yung [1:46:24] kalkulasyon [1:46:24] ng mga [1:46:25] distribution utilities [1:46:26] sa kanilang [1:46:27] pass-through charges [1:46:28] na iniimpose [1:46:28] sa kanilang mga [1:46:29] consumers [1:46:30] Ilan po sa mga [1:46:31] generation companies [1:46:33] ay nag-comply na [1:46:34] dun sa audit [1:46:35] requirements ng [1:46:36] ERC [1:46:37] at ilan pa yung [1:46:38] hindi pa nagbibigay [1:46:39] ng mga resibo nila? [1:46:41] Dito po sa bagong [1:46:41] sasagawa namin [1:46:42] bali [1:46:43] ngayon [1:46:43] kaapon lang po namin [1:46:44] na-approve yung [1:46:45] audit procedure [1:46:45] so ngayon pa lang po [1:46:46] lalabas yung aming [1:46:47] mga audit letters [1:46:48] para sa kanila [1:46:49] pero yung nakaraan po [1:46:50] yung nung sumabog [1:46:51] yung Ukraine war [1:46:52] ilang porsyento [1:46:53] yung nag-comply [1:46:54] ilang porsyento [1:46:55] yung hindi pa [1:46:55] nag-comply [1:46:56] at hanggang ngayon? [1:46:57] I'm sorry Mr. Chair [1:46:59] hindi ko po dala ngayon [1:47:00] but we will gladly [1:47:01] provide the [1:47:02] committed [1:47:02] information [1:47:03] for requested [1:47:04] Salamat Chair [1:47:05] at salamat Mr. Chair [1:47:06] May huling tanong ako [1:47:08] mamaya Mr. Chair [1:47:08] tungkol sa consumer protection [1:47:10] Salamat po [1:47:10] Susundan ko lang po [1:47:12] itong topic [1:47:14] ng fuel pass-through [1:47:15] Can you go back [1:47:16] to the earlier slide? [1:47:19] Kasi pag titignan natin [1:47:20] dito [1:47:20] Chairman Juan [1:47:22] ang pinakamalaki [1:47:23] talaga is generation [1:47:25] 60% of our [1:47:27] electricity bill [1:47:28] is generation [1:47:29] at pag titignan natin [1:47:30] yung generation [1:47:31] wala lang breakdown dito [1:47:33] I'm very sure [1:47:34] malaki dyan ay fuel [1:47:36] except for RE [1:47:38] of course [1:47:39] but for [1:47:40] coal [1:47:41] LNG [1:47:42] for gas [1:47:44] malaki dyan fuel [1:47:45] and alam naman natin [1:47:47] lahat ang fuel [1:47:48] pass-through yan [1:47:49] pag tumakas ang presyo [1:47:51] consumer ang [1:47:52] sasalo [1:47:53] pag bumaba [1:47:53] ewan ko lang [1:47:54] ibababa rin yung presyo [1:47:56] kaagad [1:47:57] but ang [1:47:58] punto natin dito [1:47:59] kung gusto natin [1:48:00] pababay ni [1:48:01] electricity bill [1:48:02] dapat mag-target [1:48:04] natin [1:48:04] yung pinakamalaking [1:48:05] singil [1:48:06] which is [1:48:06] generation [1:48:07] so that's why [1:48:09] yan ang punto namin [1:48:10] ni Sen. Teresa [1:48:10] na dapat [1:48:12] ma-audit [1:48:13] mabuti [1:48:13] at makita natin [1:48:15] kung tama [1:48:16] ang ipinapasa [1:48:17] sa putin [1:48:18] ngayon ang tanong ko [1:48:19] Chair Juan [1:48:21] is assuming [1:48:23] audit nyo [1:48:25] hindi tama [1:48:26] o labis-labis [1:48:27] yung pinapasa [1:48:28] sa putin [1:48:28] is there a mechanism [1:48:29] to compel [1:48:31] the DU [1:48:31] or [1:48:32] the GENCO [1:48:33] to refund [1:48:34] Opo [1:48:36] nakapalob [1:48:37] naman dun [1:48:37] sa ating [1:48:38] confirmation [1:48:38] process [1:48:39] na mayroon [1:48:40] talagang [1:48:41] refund [1:48:42] and collect [1:48:43] mechanisms [1:48:44] sa tuwing [1:48:44] magkukumpirma tayo [1:48:45] ng over or under [1:48:46] recoveries [1:48:47] in the [1:48:48] implementation [1:48:49] of the [1:48:49] pastoral charges [1:48:50] of our [1:48:50] distribution [1:48:51] utilities [1:48:51] at dito [1:48:52] nga din [1:48:53] sa audit [1:48:53] na isasagawa [1:48:54] natin [1:48:54] nakalagay [1:48:55] naman dun [1:48:55] sa audit [1:48:55] procedure [1:48:56] na kung [1:48:57] ang magiging [1:48:57] findings [1:48:58] ay nagkaroon [1:48:59] ng over [1:48:59] recovery [1:49:00] ay maaaring [1:49:01] magpalabas [1:49:01] na ng [1:49:02] direktiba [1:49:02] ang komisyon [1:49:03] agad-agad [1:49:04] upang [1:49:04] maipabalik [1:49:05] kung ano [1:49:06] man [1:49:06] ang makikita [1:49:06] sobra [1:49:07] without prejudice [1:49:08] to the issuance [1:49:09] of [1:49:09] Shokos [1:49:09] order [1:49:10] yung over [1:49:11] recovery [1:49:11] sa generation [1:49:12] yan [1:49:13] but ito [1:49:13] is [1:49:14] assuming [1:49:16] the pricing [1:49:18] of fuel [1:49:19] is [1:49:19] mataas [1:49:21] siya [1:49:21] more than [1:49:22] market price [1:49:25] or even [1:49:25] more than [1:49:26] what they [1:49:26] have bought [1:49:26] magkano [1:49:27] yung bilhin [1:49:28] nila [1:49:28] pwede na [1:49:28] i-refund [1:49:29] yan ng [1:49:29] DU [1:49:30] o i-refund [1:49:31] yan ng [1:49:31] generation [1:49:32] assuming [1:49:34] nakita nyo [1:49:36] na [1:49:36] binili nila [1:49:37] mas mababa [1:49:39] tapos [1:49:39] sinarad siya [1:49:40] sa consumer [1:49:40] mas mataas [1:49:41] kung ang [1:49:43] sumobra [1:49:44] ang paniningil [1:49:45] ay yung [1:49:45] generation [1:49:46] company [1:49:46] ang mangyayari [1:49:47] po [1:49:48] ang refund [1:49:48] ay isasagawa [1:49:49] ng ating [1:49:50] mga [1:49:50] distribution [1:49:50] utilities [1:49:51] dahil sila [1:49:52] yung naniningil [1:49:52] sa kanilang [1:49:53] mga [1:49:53] consumers [1:49:53] pero [1:49:54] kukunin [1:49:55] nila yan [1:49:55] mula [1:49:55] sa mga [1:49:56] generator [1:49:56] na hindi [1:49:57] tumupa [1:49:57] doon [1:49:58] sa usapan [1:49:59] o sa [1:50:00] kontrata [1:50:00] patungkol [1:50:01] doon [1:50:01] sa [1:50:02] implementation [1:50:03] ng [1:50:03] fuel [1:50:04] adjustment [1:50:05] mechanism [1:50:06] So titignan [1:50:07] nyo rin [1:50:08] yung [1:50:08] kontrata [1:50:08] ng dalawa [1:50:09] dahil [1:50:09] yung [1:50:10] kontrata [1:50:10] is [1:50:10] between [1:50:10] the [1:50:11] DU [1:50:11] and [1:50:11] generation [1:50:12] Opo [1:50:12] lalo [1:50:13] na yung [1:50:13] mga [1:50:13] kontrata [1:50:14] dumaan [1:50:14] sa amin [1:50:15] sa pag [1:50:15] aproba [1:50:16] Sige [1:50:16] ganito [1:50:17] na lang [1:50:17] please [1:50:18] submit [1:50:18] to the [1:50:18] committee [1:50:19] yung [1:50:20] timetable [1:50:21] nitong [1:50:21] fuel [1:50:22] pass [1:50:23] through [1:50:23] audit [1:50:23] para [1:50:25] masundan [1:50:25] rin [1:50:25] namin [1:50:26] and [1:50:27] nakita [1:50:28] ko [1:50:28] nga [1:50:28] kanina [1:50:28] doon [1:50:29] sa [1:50:29] slide [1:50:30] ni [1:50:31] Senator [1:50:31] Risa [1:50:31] na maraming [1:50:32] hindi [1:50:32] tumutupad [1:50:33] give us [1:50:35] also [1:50:35] an update [1:50:36] kung sino [1:50:36] yung [1:50:36] mga [1:50:37] hindi [1:50:37] tumutupad [1:50:38] especially [1:50:39] mga [1:50:39] DU's [1:50:39] can [1:50:40] you [1:50:40] go [1:50:40] paka [1:50:41] move [1:50:44] nag-issue [1:50:44] kayo [1:50:44] ng [1:50:45] 400 [1:50:45] plus [1:50:46] show [1:50:46] cost [1:50:46] orders [1:50:47] ahet [1:50:49] ahet [1:50:49] pa [1:50:49] next [1:50:50] slide [1:50:51] so [1:50:54] meron [1:50:54] 104 [1:50:55] DU's [1:50:55] and [1:50:56] 37 [1:50:56] gen [1:50:57] codes [1:50:57] in [1:50:57] 104 [1:50:58] DU's [1:50:58] mga [1:50:58] regulated [1:50:59] entities [1:51:00] yan [1:51:00] may [1:51:01] mga [1:51:01] prangkisa [1:51:02] yan [1:51:02] na [1:51:03] tumadaan [1:51:03] sa [1:51:03] kongreso [1:51:04] so [1:51:04] kung [1:51:04] hindi [1:51:05] sila [1:51:05] sumusunod [1:51:06] pwedeng [1:51:07] recommend [1:51:08] ng ating [1:51:09] chairman [1:51:09] an audit [1:51:10] of their [1:51:11] franchise [1:51:11] or even [1:51:12] cancellation [1:51:12] if necessary [1:51:13] but [1:51:15] ang [1:51:15] puntohon [1:51:16] natin [1:51:16] dito [1:51:16] is [1:51:17] we have [1:51:17] to make [1:51:18] sure [1:51:18] na [1:51:19] yung [1:51:19] pinapaso [1:51:20] sa [1:51:20] consumers [1:51:20] reasonable [1:51:22] or [1:51:22] tama [1:51:22] wala naman tayo [1:51:24] inaakusa [1:51:24] gusto lang [1:51:25] natin [1:51:25] malaman [1:51:26] na [1:51:27] hindi [1:51:28] inaabuso [1:51:29] yung [1:51:30] sitwasyon [1:51:31] dahil nga [1:51:32] mabilis [1:51:32] ang pagtaas [1:51:33] ng [1:51:33] presyo [1:51:34] ng fuel [1:51:34] at hindi [1:51:35] inaabuso [1:51:35] yun [1:51:35] so yun [1:51:36] ang [1:51:36] punto [1:51:37] naman [1:51:37] ng [1:51:37] committee [1:51:37] so [1:51:38] submit [1:51:38] to [1:51:38] as a [1:51:38] timetable [1:51:39] submit [1:51:40] to [1:51:40] as an [1:51:40] audit [1:51:41] plan [1:51:41] submit [1:51:42] to [1:51:42] as [1:51:42] sa [1:51:43] inyong [1:51:46] resolution [1:51:47] para [1:51:47] mag-hydrate [1:51:48] kami [1:51:48] kung ano [1:51:48] ba [1:51:48] yung [1:51:48] resolution [1:51:49] ninyo [1:51:49] at [1:51:50] of course [1:51:51] submit [1:51:51] to us [1:51:51] itong mga [1:51:52] personalities [1:51:54] na hindi [1:51:54] second [1:51:59] question [1:51:59] is only [1:52:00] lifeline [1:52:01] not [1:52:02] lifeline [1:52:02] yung [1:52:03] system [1:52:03] loss [1:52:03] I was [1:52:04] listening [1:52:04] to [1:52:04] St. [1:52:05] Teresa [1:52:05] and [1:52:06] our [1:52:06] chairman [1:52:06] earlier [1:52:07] tanong [1:52:09] ko [1:52:09] sa [1:52:09] ERC [1:52:10] at [1:52:10] DOE [1:52:11] yung [1:52:12] sa [1:52:12] Sona [1:52:12] ni [1:52:13] Presidente [1:52:13] na [1:52:14] consult [1:52:14] ba [1:52:14] kayo [1:52:15] bago [1:52:15] niya [1:52:15] binang [1:52:16] did [1:52:16] yun [1:52:16] Mr. [1:52:21] Chair [1:52:21] on [1:52:21] the [1:52:21] part [1:52:21] of [1:52:21] the [1:52:21] DOE [1:52:22] we [1:52:22] have [1:52:23] always [1:52:23] supported [1:52:24] removal [1:52:26] of [1:52:26] the [1:52:27] system [1:52:30] loss [1:52:30] on [1:52:31] the [1:52:32] systems [1:52:33] loss [1:52:33] we [1:52:33] have [1:52:33] submitted [1:52:34] several [1:52:34] when we [1:52:37] were [1:52:37] asked [1:52:37] on [1:52:37] the [1:52:38] part [1:52:39] of [1:52:39] the [1:52:40] Sona [1:52:40] it's [1:52:41] not [1:52:42] one [1:52:42] of [1:52:42] those [1:52:42] items [1:52:43] but [1:52:43] I [1:52:44] would [1:52:44] have [1:52:44] to [1:52:45] check [1:52:45] with [1:52:45] the [1:52:45] Secretary [1:52:45] if [1:52:46] it [1:52:46] was [1:52:46] something [1:52:46] that [1:52:47] was [1:52:47] discussed [1:52:47] and [1:52:48] we [1:52:49] will [1:52:49] say [1:52:50] you [1:52:50] sa [1:52:50] ERC [1:52:51] being [1:52:51] the [1:52:51] regulator [1:52:52] hindi [1:52:53] po [1:52:54] kasi [1:52:54] ang [1:52:56] in-expect [1:52:57] kong [1:52:57] answer [1:52:57] niyo [1:52:57] kasi [1:52:57] Teresa [1:52:58] in [1:52:59] timetable [1:53:00] paano [1:53:00] i-implement [1:53:01] this [1:53:01] is a [1:53:02] policy [1:53:02] directive [1:53:03] ng [1:53:03] Presidente [1:53:04] through [1:53:04] the [1:53:04] Sona [1:53:05] so [1:53:06] in [1:53:09] and [1:53:10] ang [1:53:10] in-expect [1:53:11] ko [1:53:11] kung [1:53:11] na-consult [1:53:12] kayo [1:53:12] meron [1:53:13] na [1:53:13] kayong [1:53:13] timetable [1:53:14] kung [1:53:14] kailan [1:53:14] may [1:53:14] implement [1:53:15] meron [1:53:16] na [1:53:16] kayong [1:53:16] mechanism [1:53:16] kung [1:53:17] kailan [1:53:17] may [1:53:17] implement [1:53:18] meron [1:53:18] na [1:53:18] rin [1:53:18] kayong [1:53:19] batas [1:53:19] na [1:53:19] ibibigay [1:53:20] sa [1:53:20] amin [1:53:20] para [1:53:20] hear [1:53:24] na [1:53:24] ng [1:53:24] ating [1:53:24] chairman [1:53:25] so [1:53:26] that [1:53:26] is [1:53:26] the [1:53:26] answer [1:53:27] that [1:53:27] I'm [1:53:27] expecting [1:53:28] from [1:53:28] all [1:53:29] of [1:53:30] you [1:53:30] hindi [1:53:30] lang [1:53:30] yung [1:53:30] pag-aaralan [1:53:31] natin [1:53:31] ngayon [1:53:31] hindi [1:53:32] implementation [1:53:34] na [1:53:34] ang [1:53:34] pag-uusapan [1:53:35] kasi [1:53:35] policy [1:53:36] directive [1:53:36] na [1:53:36] ito [1:53:37] hindi [1:53:38] na [1:53:38] ito [1:53:38] kumbaga [1:53:39] this is [1:53:41] an [1:53:43] instruction [1:53:43] to [1:53:44] implement [1:53:45] it [1:53:45] so [1:53:46] kaya [1:53:47] merong [1:53:49] consultation [1:53:51] or [1:53:52] recommendation [1:53:52] na yun [1:53:53] galing [1:53:53] sa inyo [1:53:54] Mr. Chair [1:53:56] as [1:53:56] regards [1:53:56] the [1:53:57] drop [1:53:57] submitting [1:53:58] a [1:53:58] draft [1:53:59] of [1:53:59] the [1:53:59] bill [1:53:59] regarding [1:53:59] the [1:54:00] Saliling [1:54:01] Kuryente [1:54:02] Act [1:54:02] and also [1:54:03] on [1:54:03] the [1:54:03] systems [1:54:03] laws [1:54:04] but [1:54:04] having [1:54:05] said [1:54:05] that [1:54:05] meron [1:54:06] 8 [1:54:06] bills [1:54:06] dito [1:54:07] according [1:54:07] to [1:54:08] our [1:54:08] chairman [1:54:08] on [1:54:08] the [1:54:09] removal [1:54:09] of [1:54:10] system [1:54:10] laws [1:54:10] and [1:54:11] sabi ko [1:54:12] nga [1:54:12] that [1:54:12] is [1:54:13] water [1:54:13] under [1:54:13] the [1:54:13] beach [1:54:14] we [1:54:14] have [1:54:15] to [1:54:15] move [1:54:15] forward [1:54:16] to [1:54:16] that's [1:54:16] a [1:54:16] policy [1:54:17] directive [1:54:17] that [1:54:17] we [1:54:18] all [1:54:18] support [1:54:18] 8 [1:54:20] bills [1:54:20] dito [1:54:21] so [1:54:21] marami [1:54:23] senator [1:54:23] ang [1:54:23] sumusuporta [1:54:24] sa [1:54:24] pagtanggal [1:54:25] ng [1:54:25] system [1:54:25] laws [1:54:26] although [1:54:27] kanina [1:54:27] kaya rin [1:54:28] ako [1:54:28] nalita [1:54:29] was [1:54:29] watching [1:54:29] the [1:54:29] news [1:54:30] nasabi [1:54:31] ng [1:54:31] Mr. [1:54:32] Pangalina [1:54:32] boss [1:54:33] ni [1:54:33] attorney [1:54:34] valias [1:54:34] meralco [1:54:35] na [1:54:36] sino [1:54:37] sasagot [1:54:37] ng [1:54:39] system [1:54:39] laws [1:54:39] obviously [1:54:41] ayaw [1:54:42] namin [1:54:42] mga [1:54:42] consumers [1:54:43] sagutin [1:54:43] yun [1:54:43] kaya [1:54:44] it [1:54:45] ang [1:54:45] nagpasa [1:54:47] ng [1:54:47] bills [1:54:47] para [1:54:48] tanggalin [1:54:49] yung [1:54:49] system [1:54:49] laws [1:54:50] and [1:54:50] nakikita [1:54:54] namin [1:54:54] sasagot [1:54:54] yun [1:54:55] obviously [1:54:55] yung [1:54:56] distribution [1:54:56] company [1:54:57] and it [1:54:58] will be [1:54:58] part [1:54:59] of [1:54:59] their [1:54:59] cost [1:55:01] or [1:55:01] expense [1:55:01] in [1:55:02] generating [1:55:03] electricity [1:55:04] or [1:55:04] transmitting [1:55:05] electricity [1:55:06] so [1:55:07] nakikita ko [1:55:09] naman [1:55:09] ang [1:55:09] kagandahan [1:55:10] naman [1:55:10] doon [1:55:10] ay [1:55:12] mapagpwersa [1:55:13] ngayon [1:55:13] yung mga [1:55:13] distribution [1:55:15] utilities [1:55:15] to be [1:55:16] more [1:55:16] efficient [1:55:16] and [1:55:17] kasi [1:55:17] efficient [1:55:18] or [1:55:18] not [1:55:19] efficient [1:55:19] mahala [1:55:20] na [1:55:20] sa [1:55:20] consumer [1:55:20] papasa [1:55:21] na yun [1:55:22] of course [1:55:23] sinasabi [1:55:23] na [1:55:23] may [1:55:24] technology [1:55:24] and [1:55:25] all [1:55:25] that [1:55:25] pero [1:55:26] walang [1:55:26] pressure [1:55:27] for [1:55:27] them [1:55:27] to [1:55:28] lower [1:55:28] down [1:55:28] system [1:55:30] loss [1:55:30] because [1:55:30] everything [1:55:31] is [1:55:31] passed [1:55:31] to [1:55:32] the [1:55:32] consumers [1:55:32] so [1:55:33] ngayon [1:55:33] since [1:55:33] it's [1:55:34] part [1:55:34] of [1:55:34] their [1:55:34] cost [1:55:34] na [1:55:35] napapwersa [1:55:36] sila [1:55:36] na [1:55:36] talagang [1:55:37] pababaan [1:55:38] o [1:55:38] tanggalin [1:55:41] yung [1:55:41] system [1:55:42] loss [1:55:43] lalo [1:55:43] na [1:55:43] pagdating [1:55:44] sa [1:55:44] technical [1:55:44] sa [1:55:45] non-technical [1:55:46] makipag-usap [1:55:47] na lang [1:55:47] sa [1:55:47] mga [1:55:48] polis [1:55:48] para [1:55:49] hulihin [1:55:50] yung [1:55:50] mga [1:55:50] jumper [1:55:51] mga [1:55:51] jumper [1:55:52] yan [1:55:52] mga [1:55:53] jumper [1:55:54] o [1:55:54] barangay [1:55:54] o [1:55:54] ano [1:55:55] para [1:55:56] completely [1:55:57] matanggal [1:55:57] in [1:55:57] non-technical [1:55:58] but [1:55:58] the [1:55:58] point [1:55:59] of [1:55:59] the [1:55:59] matter [1:55:59] there [1:56:06] hindi [1:56:06] naman [1:56:06] namin [1:56:06] kasalanan [1:56:07] yung [1:56:07] technical [1:56:08] losses [1:56:08] hindi [1:56:09] rin [1:56:09] naman [1:56:09] namin [1:56:09] kasalanan [1:56:10] yung [1:56:10] jumper [1:56:10] so [1:56:12] hindi [1:56:12] dapat [1:56:12] sa [1:56:13] amin [1:56:13] ipasa [1:56:13] yan [1:56:14] so [1:56:14] again [1:56:16] it [1:56:17] builds [1:56:17] dito [1:56:18] and [1:56:18] ang [1:56:19] chairman [1:56:19] natin [1:56:19] will [1:56:20] fast [1:56:20] track [1:56:20] the [1:56:20] hearing [1:56:21] of [1:56:21] that [1:56:21] bill [1:56:21] so [1:56:22] we [1:56:23] expect [1:56:23] DOE [1:56:24] and [1:56:24] ERC [1:56:24] to be [1:56:25] ready [1:56:25] with [1:56:25] data [1:56:26] with [1:56:26] the [1:56:26] mechanisms [1:56:27] dahil [1:56:28] kung [1:56:28] mag-hearing [1:56:29] ng [1:56:29] ating [1:56:29] chairman [1:56:30] kalam [1:56:31] masagot [1:56:31] na [1:56:31] lahat [1:56:31] ng [1:56:31] tanong [1:56:32] hindi [1:56:33] pwedeng [1:56:34] sa [1:56:34] next [1:56:34] week [1:56:35] or [1:56:35] next [1:56:35] month [1:56:35] or [1:56:36] has [1:56:36] to [1:56:37] be [1:56:37] answered [1:56:37] right [1:56:38] away [1:56:38] and [1:56:38] I [1:56:38] think [1:56:38] the [1:56:38] chairman [1:56:39] is [1:56:39] going [1:56:39] to [1:56:39] hear [1:56:40] that [1:56:40] next [1:56:41] week [1:56:42] all of [1:56:43] the [1:56:43] questions [1:56:44] including [1:56:45] yung [1:56:45] mga [1:56:46] concerns [1:56:47] ng [1:56:47] Meralco [1:56:48] and [1:56:48] other [1:56:48] utilities [1:56:49] especially [1:56:50] the [1:56:50] ECS [1:56:51] nandito [1:56:51] ba yung [1:56:52] Philreca [1:56:52] dito [1:56:53] in [1:56:54] concerns [1:56:55] ng [1:56:55] Philreca [1:56:55] ma-address [1:56:57] na lahat [1:56:57] yun [1:56:57] we [1:56:59] want [1:56:59] to [1:57:00] make [1:57:00] sure [1:57:00] that [1:57:00] those [1:57:01] concerns [1:57:02] ma-address [1:57:02] nakita [1:57:04] ko sa [1:57:05] notes [1:57:05] ko [1:57:05] ang [1:57:06] estimate [1:57:06] ng [1:57:06] system [1:57:08] loss [1:57:08] nationwide [1:57:09] is [1:57:10] about [1:57:10] 70 [1:57:10] to [1:57:11] 80 [1:57:11] billion [1:57:11] is [1:57:12] that [1:57:12] correct [1:57:12] chair [1:57:14] 1 [1:57:14] kung [1:57:15] inat [1:57:16] natin [1:57:16] lahat [1:57:16] ng [1:57:16] system [1:57:17] losses [1:57:17] being [1:57:17] charged [1:57:18] to [1:57:18] consumers [1:57:19] it's [1:57:19] about [1:57:20] 7 [1:57:20] to [1:57:20] 80 [1:57:20] billion [1:57:21] is [1:57:21] that [1:57:21] correct [1:57:24] I [1:57:24] don't [1:57:24] have [1:57:24] the [1:57:25] exact [1:57:25] data [1:57:26] but [1:57:26] based [1:57:27] on [1:57:27] Meralco [1:57:28] which [1:57:29] is [1:57:30] more [1:57:30] than [1:57:31] 70 [1:57:31] percent [1:57:32] of [1:57:32] the [1:57:32] total [1:57:32] market [1:57:33] it's [1:57:33] already [1:57:34] 30 [1:57:35] billion [1:57:35] for [1:57:36] last [1:57:36] year [1:57:36] 30 [1:57:37] billion [1:57:37] last [1:57:37] year [1:57:39] overestimate [1:57:40] yung [1:57:40] awa [1:57:41] ko [1:57:41] so [1:57:41] baka [1:57:42] around [1:57:42] mga [1:57:42] 35 [1:57:43] billion [1:57:43] pagkasama [1:57:44] yung [1:57:44] EC [1:57:44] mga [1:57:44] 40 [1:57:45] billion [1:57:46] let's [1:57:46] say [1:57:46] 45 [1:57:47] so [1:57:50] ang tanong [1:57:50] who will [1:57:50] absorb [1:57:51] that [1:57:51] 45 [1:57:51] again [1:57:53] I think [1:57:56] that [1:57:56] 45 [1:57:56] can be [1:57:57] absorbed [1:57:58] by the [1:57:58] distribution [1:57:59] utility [1:57:59] they just [1:58:01] need to [1:58:01] be [1:58:02] efficient [1:58:02] kaya [1:58:03] ngayon [1:58:03] narinig [1:58:04] ko [1:58:04] nga [1:58:04] yung [1:58:04] mga [1:58:04] ibang [1:58:05] EC [1:58:05] na [1:58:06] dapat [1:58:06] VAT [1:58:06] zero [1:58:07] rating [1:58:07] pag [1:58:08] nag [1:58:08] VAT [1:58:08] zero [1:58:09] rating [1:58:09] tayo [1:58:09] paano [1:58:09] tayo [1:58:10] magpapatayo [1:58:10] ng [1:58:15] kalsada [1:58:19] wala [1:58:20] natin [1:58:21] pwis [1:58:21] wala [1:58:21] na tayong [1:58:22] panggasto [1:58:22] sa [1:58:22] social [1:58:24] services [1:58:24] natin [1:58:25] so [1:58:25] ang [1:58:26] aking [1:58:26] mungkahi [1:58:27] maging [1:58:27] efficient [1:58:27] magpababain [1:58:29] natin [1:58:29] or [1:58:30] pwede [1:58:30] nga [1:58:30] lalong [1:58:31] close [1:58:32] near [1:58:32] zero [1:58:33] yung [1:58:33] system [1:58:34] loss [1:58:34] mas [1:58:35] maganda [1:58:35] nga [1:58:35] yun [1:58:35] so [1:58:36] instead [1:58:36] of [1:58:37] burtailing [1:58:38] the [1:58:38] collection [1:58:38] of [1:58:39] government [1:58:39] let's [1:58:40] be [1:58:40] more [1:58:40] efficient [1:58:41] using [1:58:42] technology [1:58:43] and [1:58:43] other [1:58:44] mechanisms [1:58:44] so [1:58:45] thank [1:58:46] you [1:58:46] Mr. [1:58:46] Chairman [1:58:46] Thank [1:58:47] you [1:58:47] I [1:58:47] just [1:58:47] have [1:58:48] a [1:58:48] couple [1:58:50] attorney [1:58:51] Juan [1:58:52] and [1:58:52] Yusek [1:58:53] Innocentio [1:58:53] attorney [1:58:54] Juan [1:58:55] Mr. [1:58:58] Manny [1:58:58] Pangilinan [1:58:59] saying [1:58:59] na [1:58:59] pag [1:59:00] inalis [1:59:00] po [1:59:00] yung [1:59:00] systems [1:59:01] loss [1:59:01] maging [1:59:02] kernel [1:59:03] losses [1:59:03] at [1:59:04] baka [1:59:04] bumagsak [1:59:04] po [1:59:05] yung [1:59:05] industriya [1:59:07] ng [1:59:07] elektricidad [1:59:09] pag [1:59:10] binawasan [1:59:10] po [1:59:11] inalis [1:59:11] systems [1:59:12] loss [1:59:12] is it [1:59:15] is that [1:59:16] true [1:59:16] kung [1:59:17] malisin [1:59:17] natin [1:59:17] say [1:59:18] for example [1:59:19] we start [1:59:19] with [1:59:19] non-technical [1:59:21] systems [1:59:22] loss [1:59:22] malulugi [1:59:23] po [1:59:23] ba [1:59:24] dahil [1:59:26] po [1:59:26] ang [1:59:26] non-technical [1:59:27] system [1:59:28] loss [1:59:28] ay mga [1:59:29] nasa [1:59:29] isa [1:59:29] at [1:59:30] hanggang [1:59:30] 1.5% [1:59:32] ng total [1:59:33] kabuang [1:59:34] system [1:59:34] loss [1:59:34] nila [1:59:35] ito [1:59:36] po [1:59:36] magre-representa [1:59:37] ng kabawasan [1:59:38] dun sa [1:59:38] kita nila [1:59:39] pero [1:59:40] ito [1:59:40] naman [1:59:41] po [1:59:41] ay maliit [1:59:41] kumpara [1:59:42] dun sa [1:59:42] kabuang [1:59:43] system [1:59:43] so [1:59:43] kabawasan [1:59:44] sa [1:59:44] kita [1:59:44] nila [1:59:45] hindi [1:59:46] sila [1:59:46] mababankraft [1:59:48] kung [1:59:48] alisin [1:59:49] natin [1:59:49] ang [1:59:49] systems [1:59:50] loss [1:59:50] sa tingin [1:59:53] naman po [1:59:54] ng [1:59:54] ERC [1:59:54] kung [1:59:55] ito [1:59:55] ang [1:59:55] magiging [1:59:56] regulasyon [1:59:56] mag-a-adjust [1:59:57] mag-a-adapt [1:59:58] ang ating [1:59:58] mga [1:59:59] utilities [1:59:59] at [2:00:00] maaaring [2:00:00] mas magiging [2:00:01] masigasing [2:00:02] sila [2:00:02] sa [2:00:03] panguhuli [2:00:04] nung [2:00:04] mga [2:00:05] nagnanakaw [2:00:06] ng [2:00:06] kuryente [2:00:06] nang [2:00:07] sa ganon [2:00:07] ay [2:00:08] hindi [2:00:08] naman [2:00:08] maging [2:00:09] malaki [2:00:09] ang [2:00:09] impact [2:00:10] sa [2:00:10] kanila [2:00:10] nung [2:00:10] pagtanggal [2:00:11] ng [2:00:11] halimbawa [2:00:12] yung [2:00:12] non-technical [2:00:13] system [2:00:13] loss [2:00:13] are you [2:00:15] sick [2:00:15] inocenture [2:00:16] your [2:00:16] thoughts [2:00:16] on this [2:00:16] yes [2:00:17] I totally [2:00:17] agree [2:00:17] with the [2:00:18] statement [2:00:18] of the [2:00:19] chair [2:00:19] that [2:00:20] the [2:00:22] systems [2:00:25] loss [2:00:25] adjustment [2:00:26] could be [2:00:28] self-regulating [2:00:30] mechanism [2:00:31] for the [2:00:32] DUs and [2:00:32] the ECs [2:00:32] to make [2:00:33] themselves [2:00:33] more [2:00:34] efficient [2:00:34] and so [2:00:35] that [2:00:36] the [2:00:36] systems [2:00:37] loss [2:00:38] could be [2:00:39] more [2:00:40] reflective [2:00:42] only [2:00:42] of the [2:00:43] technical [2:00:44] for the [2:00:46] technical [2:00:46] it's [2:00:47] going to [2:00:48] be a [2:00:48] long-term [2:00:49] solution [2:00:49] that [2:00:49] we [2:00:50] would [2:00:50] have [2:00:50] to [2:00:50] assist [2:00:51] most [2:00:53] of [2:00:53] the [2:00:53] ECs [2:00:54] in [2:00:54] their [2:00:55] implementation [2:00:55] of [2:00:56] infrastructure [2:00:57] improvement [2:00:58] so that [2:00:58] they [2:00:58] can [2:00:59] make [2:00:59] sure [2:01:00] that [2:01:00] they [2:01:00] can [2:01:00] lessen [2:01:01] the [2:01:01] technical [2:01:01] losses [2:01:02] but [2:01:02] I [2:01:02] fully [2:01:03] agree [2:01:03] with [2:01:03] the [2:01:04] statements [2:01:04] of [2:01:04] the [2:01:05] chair [2:01:05] that [2:01:06] it's [2:01:06] a [2:01:06] self-regulating [2:01:07] mechanism [2:01:09] if there [2:01:09] will be [2:01:09] some [2:01:10] adjustments [2:01:10] or [2:01:10] lowering [2:01:11] down [2:01:11] of [2:01:11] the [2:01:12] allowable [2:01:12] cap [2:01:13] on [2:01:13] the [2:01:13] systems [2:01:13] let [2:01:15] me [2:01:16] go [2:01:17] back [2:01:17] here [2:01:17] attorney [2:01:18] Valyes [2:01:18] nameralco [2:01:19] Ano pong [2:01:20] ginagamit [2:01:21] nyo [2:01:21] ano [2:01:22] yung [2:01:22] formula [2:01:23] na [2:01:23] ginagamit [2:01:24] nyo [2:01:24] para [2:01:24] ma-detect [2:01:26] systems [2:01:26] loss [2:01:26] bawat [2:01:27] bay [2:01:27] pare-pareho [2:01:28] ba [2:01:28] pagpunta [2:01:29] po [2:01:29] ng [2:01:29] inyong [2:01:30] meter [2:01:31] reader [2:01:32] doon [2:01:32] yung [2:01:32] magkukuha [2:01:34] ng bill [2:01:34] anong [2:01:35] anong [2:01:35] klase [2:01:35] pong [2:01:36] system [2:01:37] anong [2:01:37] formula [2:01:39] pare-pareho [2:01:40] ba yung [2:01:40] ginagamit [2:01:41] yung [2:01:41] computations [2:01:42] para [2:01:43] makuha [2:01:43] yung [2:01:43] systems [2:01:44] loss [2:01:44] or [2:01:45] can you [2:01:46] explain [2:01:46] to us [2:01:47] yes [2:01:48] Mr. [2:01:48] Chair [2:01:49] pwede [2:01:49] po [2:01:49] pang [2:01:50] ipaliwanan [2:01:50] muna [2:01:50] yung [2:01:51] sa [2:01:51] system [2:01:52] loss [2:01:52] ng [2:01:52] meralco [2:01:53] so [2:01:54] yung [2:01:55] sa [2:01:55] meralco [2:01:56] po [2:01:56] today [2:01:57] ang [2:01:57] feeder [2:01:57] loss [2:01:58] cap [2:01:58] na [2:01:58] inimpose [2:01:59] ng [2:01:59] regulasyon [2:01:59] ay [2:02:00] nasa [2:02:00] 5.5% [2:02:01] so [2:02:02] ang [2:02:02] meralco [2:02:03] po [2:02:03] ay [2:02:03] ang [2:02:04] total [2:02:04] system [2:02:04] loss [2:02:05] cap [2:02:05] namin [2:02:05] or [2:02:05] feeder [2:02:06] loss [2:02:06] cap [2:02:06] namin [2:02:06] ay [2:02:07] 4.22% [2:02:08] as of [2:02:09] 2025 [2:02:10] so [2:02:10] mababaho [2:02:11] kami [2:02:11] kasa [2:02:13] doon [2:02:14] sa [2:02:14] feeder [2:02:16] loss [2:02:16] cap [2:02:16] na [2:02:16] sinet [2:02:17] ng [2:02:17] ERC [2:02:17] at [2:02:18] sa aming [2:02:18] palagay [2:02:18] ay [2:02:19] yung [2:02:19] 4.22% [2:02:21] na yan [2:02:22] ay [2:02:22] global [2:02:23] standard [2:02:23] na po [2:02:24] at [2:02:25] doon po [2:02:26] sa [2:02:26] 4.22% [2:02:27] na yan [2:02:27] less than [2:02:28] 1% [2:02:28] lang po [2:02:29] dyan [2:02:29] ang [2:02:30] pinatawag [2:02:31] nating [2:02:32] non-technical [2:02:32] losses [2:02:33] so [2:02:34] yung [2:02:34] non-technical [2:02:35] losses [2:02:35] po [2:02:35] alam [2:02:35] na po [2:02:36] natin [2:02:36] yun [2:02:36] yun [2:02:37] yung [2:02:37] mga [2:02:38] filter [2:02:38] of [2:02:38] electricity [2:02:39] so [2:02:40] sa [2:02:41] filperage [2:02:41] of [2:02:41] electricity [2:02:42] po [2:02:42] ang [2:02:42] Meralco [2:02:43] agresivo [2:02:43] po [2:02:44] kaming [2:02:44] nagpo [2:02:47] prosecute [2:02:47] ng mga [2:02:48] illegal [2:02:48] connection [2:02:49] jumper [2:02:49] nanguhuli [2:02:50] kami [2:02:50] yan [2:02:50] kaya [2:02:52] lang po [2:02:52] hindi [2:02:53] talaga [2:02:53] maiiwasan [2:02:54] dahil [2:02:54] syempre [2:02:55] po [2:02:56] marami [2:02:56] pong [2:02:57] nagnanakaw [2:02:58] sa [2:02:58] kuryente [2:03:00] halimbawa [2:03:00] bibigyan mo [2:03:01] kayo na [2:03:01] example [2:03:02] sa gabi [2:03:04] nila [2:03:05] ginagawa [2:03:05] halimbawa [2:03:06] madaling [2:03:06] araw [2:03:07] so [2:03:08] o kaya [2:03:08] naman po [2:03:09] yung [2:03:09] mga [2:03:10] jumper [2:03:10] pagka [2:03:11] nakita [2:03:11] nila [2:03:11] ang [2:03:11] Meralco [2:03:12] ang [2:03:12] Meralco [2:03:13] na [2:03:13] nandyan [2:03:14] satanggalin [2:03:15] nila [2:03:15] pag alis [2:03:15] ng [2:03:15] Meralco [2:03:16] kakabit [2:03:17] ibabalik [2:03:18] nila [2:03:18] so [2:03:19] hindi po [2:03:19] natin [2:03:19] may iwasan [2:03:20] ginawa [2:03:20] na po [2:03:21] namin [2:03:21] lahat [2:03:21] ng [2:03:21] hakbang [2:03:22] para [2:03:22] po [2:03:22] maibaba [2:03:23] ang [2:03:23] non-technical [2:03:24] loss [2:03:24] tinaas po [2:03:25] namin [2:03:25] ng metro [2:03:26] sa mga [2:03:26] ilang [2:03:27] depressed [2:03:27] areas [2:03:27] para [2:03:28] hindi [2:03:28] maabot [2:03:28] yet [2:03:29] may [2:03:29] nangyayari [2:03:30] pa rin [2:03:30] ng [2:03:30] non-technical [2:03:31] losses [2:03:32] so [2:03:32] ang [2:03:32] solusyon [2:03:40] na [2:03:41] 24x7 [2:03:43] nag-i-inspect [2:03:44] dito sa mga [2:03:45] kabahayan na to [2:03:46] at nakabantay [2:03:48] sa bawat [2:03:48] siguro [2:03:49] bawat [2:03:50] isang [2:03:50] kilometrong [2:03:51] poste [2:03:51] na umiikot sila [2:03:52] o rumuronda sila [2:03:53] at napakagastos po [2:03:55] nyo [2:03:55] so tinimbang po [2:03:57] namin yun [2:03:57] yung sinasabi nyo po [2:03:59] kailangan namin [2:04:00] gawa ng parahan [2:04:00] para mapababa [2:04:01] yung [2:04:02] non-technical [2:04:03] losses [2:04:03] nagkaroon na po [2:04:05] kami ng [2:04:05] simulation [2:04:06] dyan [2:04:06] kung [2:04:06] mas [2:04:07] makakabuti po [2:04:08] ba yun [2:04:08] sa consumers [2:04:09] kasi po [2:04:10] ngayon [2:04:10] yung [2:04:11] less than [2:04:12] 1% [2:04:12] within the [2:04:13] cap [2:04:13] kami [2:04:13] kung [2:04:14] i-improve pa po [2:04:15] namin yan [2:04:16] below [2:04:16] para ma [2:04:19] achieve natin [2:04:19] yung zero [2:04:20] na sinasabi [2:04:21] natin [2:04:21] yung [2:04:21] non-technical [2:04:22] losses [2:04:22] malaki naman po [2:04:23] yung gagastusin [2:04:24] namin [2:04:24] na operational [2:04:25] expenses [2:04:26] at saka [2:04:26] capital [2:04:27] expenses [2:04:27] capital [2:04:28] expenditure [2:04:28] na siya [2:04:29] naman po [2:04:30] ang [2:04:30] kakarga na [2:04:32] naman [2:04:32] doon [2:04:32] sa taripa [2:04:33] kasi po [2:04:34] hindi naman [2:04:36] papayagan [2:04:36] ng any [2:04:37] distribution [2:04:37] utility [2:04:38] na malugi [2:04:38] sila [2:04:39] dahil [2:04:40] sa mga [2:04:40] nagnanakaw [2:04:41] ng [2:04:41] kuryente [2:04:41] so gagawa sila [2:04:42] ng paraan [2:04:43] sabi nyo [2:04:43] nga [2:04:44] para ma-herb [2:04:46] ito [2:04:47] para mabawasan [2:04:47] ito [2:04:48] para ma-eradicate [2:04:49] ito [2:04:49] so mapipilitan [2:04:50] silang [2:04:51] gumastos [2:04:51] so kung gagastos [2:04:53] po sila [2:04:53] ng mas malaki [2:04:54] kaysa sa [2:04:55] magiging [2:04:56] pakinabang [2:04:56] ng customers [2:04:57] dito [2:04:57] sa system [2:04:58] loss [2:04:58] na [2:04:58] nanggalin [2:04:59] nanggalin [2:04:59] natin [2:04:59] or gawin [2:05:00] nating [2:05:00] zero [2:05:00] yung [2:05:01] non-technical [2:05:01] losses [2:05:02] eh [2:05:03] hindi po [2:05:04] magiging [2:05:05] pair [2:05:05] sa [2:05:05] consumers [2:05:05] yun [2:05:06] kasi [2:05:06] mas [2:05:06] yung [2:05:07] net [2:05:07] net [2:05:07] po [2:05:08] na [2:05:08] benefit [2:05:08] ma-offset [2:05:09] sir [2:05:10] I totally [2:05:11] disagree [2:05:12] with you [2:05:12] your [2:05:13] explanation [2:05:14] you mean [2:05:16] you're a [2:05:19] business [2:05:20] at the same [2:05:21] time [2:05:21] you're [2:05:22] catering [2:05:23] to public [2:05:23] service [2:05:23] di po ba [2:05:24] pero [2:05:26] boss [2:05:26] narinig ko [2:05:27] yung sinasabi [2:05:28] mo na [2:05:28] tataasan [2:05:29] kasi [2:05:30] systems [2:05:30] loss [2:05:30] parang [2:05:31] wala [2:05:32] ayaw [2:05:32] ninyo [2:05:33] magka [2:05:34] incur [2:05:35] na [2:05:35] losses [2:05:35] business [2:05:37] sir [2:05:38] ay may [2:05:39] mga [2:05:39] losses [2:05:39] dapat [2:05:40] you have [2:05:40] to be [2:05:41] prepared [2:05:41] for that [2:05:42] pinag-aralan [2:05:44] ko po [2:05:44] sa [2:05:44] eskwelahan [2:05:45] yun eh [2:05:45] normal po [2:05:46] yun [2:05:46] sa isang [2:05:47] negosyo [2:05:47] na magkaroon [2:05:48] ng losses [2:05:48] at dapat [2:05:49] meron po [2:05:50] kayong [2:05:50] allowance [2:05:51] lagi [2:05:51] for losses [2:05:52] I had a [2:05:54] degree po [2:05:55] in business [2:05:55] management [2:05:56] kaya alam [2:05:57] ko yun [2:05:57] so [2:05:58] ibig ko [2:05:58] lamang [2:05:58] sabihin [2:05:59] are you [2:06:00] saying [2:06:00] na pag [2:06:00] kailangan [2:06:01] wala kayong [2:06:02] losses [2:06:02] ipasa [2:06:03] nyo [2:06:03] sa amin [2:06:04] yung [2:06:04] pagdadagdag [2:06:05] nyo [2:06:05] ng mga [2:06:05] tao [2:06:06] ipapasa [2:06:06] itakarga [2:06:07] na naman [2:06:07] sa bill [2:06:08] namin [2:06:08] hindi [2:06:09] na muna [2:06:09] namin [2:06:10] problema [2:06:10] yun [2:06:11] hindi [2:06:11] na rin [2:06:11] problema [2:06:12] ng [2:06:12] consumer [2:06:12] yun [2:06:13] magdagdag [2:06:14] ka ng [2:06:14] tao [2:06:14] mag [2:06:15] expand [2:06:15] ka [2:06:16] wala [2:06:16] kaming [2:06:16] pakialam [2:06:17] doon [2:06:17] ang gusto [2:06:17] lang namin [2:06:18] kuryente [2:06:19] bumibili [2:06:20] po kami [2:06:20] bumibili [2:06:22] lang kami [2:06:22] ng kuryente [2:06:23] sa inyo [2:06:23] binibigyan [2:06:24] nyo [2:06:24] kami ng [2:06:24] kuryente [2:06:25] pero [2:06:25] yung sinasabi [2:06:25] mo [2:06:26] para bantayan [2:06:27] walang [2:06:27] magnanakaw [2:06:28] bakit [2:06:28] kami na [2:06:29] naman [2:06:29] nasasagot [2:06:30] noon [2:06:30] parang [2:06:30] lagi [2:06:31] nila [2:06:31] kami [2:06:31] sasagot [2:06:32] ganito [2:06:33] lang [2:06:33] sabibigyan [2:06:34] kita [2:06:34] ng [2:06:34] example [2:06:34] na nakawan [2:06:36] po [2:06:36] yung [2:06:36] tindahan [2:06:37] so [2:06:37] sa [2:06:37] kasusunod [2:06:38] the next week [2:06:39] gagawin niya [2:06:39] tataasan niya [2:06:40] lahat ng presyo [2:06:41] ng paninda niya [2:06:42] kasi [2:06:42] nalugi siya [2:06:43] na hold up siya [2:06:45] o nasunugan siya [2:06:46] o binahayong [2:06:47] tindahan niya [2:06:48] nasira [2:06:48] so may mga losses siya [2:06:50] dapat sir [2:06:51] meron kayong [2:06:52] mga miscellaneous [2:06:54] na mga losses [2:06:55] dapat [2:06:56] ready po kayo [2:06:57] mga distribution [2:06:58] utilities [2:06:59] ready po kayo [2:07:00] mga electric [2:07:01] cooperative [2:07:02] hindi yung po pwede [2:07:03] ayaw magkaroon [2:07:05] ng losses [2:07:05] di wag ka [2:07:06] lumipat ka na lang [2:07:07] negosyo [2:07:07] that's what my point is [2:07:09] that's what the people [2:07:10] are saying right now [2:07:11] bakit kami lagi [2:07:12] kayo [2:07:13] wala na ba kayong [2:07:14] sasagutin [2:07:15] na losses [2:07:16] puro na lang [2:07:17] sa tao [2:07:18] pass on [2:07:19] puro pass on [2:07:20] lahat ka lang [2:07:21] pinapass on [2:07:21] e napakaganda [2:07:22] negosyo pala nito [2:07:23] hindi ko naisip [2:07:25] sana [2:07:25] nagkaroon tayo [2:07:26] lang ako ng [2:07:26] electric company [2:07:27] din para [2:07:28] na generation [2:07:29] at saka [2:07:30] distribution [2:07:31] para [2:07:32] napakasarap pala [2:07:33] na negosyo [2:07:34] na ito [2:07:34] walang losses [2:07:35] sa tao [2:07:36] nyo lagi [2:07:37] sinisingil [2:07:37] ang kawawang [2:07:38] taong bayat [2:07:39] sir [2:07:39] hindi po tayo [2:07:40] mayaman na bansa [2:07:41] let us [2:07:42] not forget [2:07:43] yung mga sinisingil [2:07:44] yun ng mga [2:07:45] 360 na yan [2:07:46] e yan [2:07:47] no [2:07:47] e kita [2:07:48] ng isang kababayan [2:07:49] natin [2:07:49] dito sa metro [2:07:50] mayro [2:07:50] 507 na yan [2:07:52] na hindi [2:07:52] pagbili pa [2:07:53] ng mga pagkain [2:07:54] e [2:07:55] kailangan [2:07:56] ibayad po [2:07:57] this is what [2:07:58] I do not [2:07:58] understand [2:07:59] siguro [2:08:00] don't give us [2:08:01] that reason [2:08:02] na [2:08:03] tataas [2:08:04] ang sisingil [2:08:05] na naman ninyo [2:08:05] sa [2:08:06] consumer [2:08:07] bakit po sa amin [2:08:09] why is it always [2:08:10] like that [2:08:11] na kami [2:08:11] yung sasalo [2:08:12] dahil [2:08:13] kailangan [2:08:14] yung maraming [2:08:14] tagabantay [2:08:15] na mga jumper [2:08:16] etc [2:08:17] illegal metering [2:08:19] e problema [2:08:20] nyo ho yun [2:08:20] that is your [2:08:21] business [2:08:22] hindi po kami [2:08:23] hindi kami [2:08:23] partner [2:08:24] meralgo [2:08:24] kami po [2:08:25] ang mga [2:08:25] consumer [2:08:26] customer [2:08:27] po ninyo [2:08:28] yun po [2:08:28] yun lang [2:08:29] ho yun sa akin [2:08:30] salamat po [2:08:34] Mr. Chairman [2:08:36] Tulpo [2:08:38] ang pinapaliwanag [2:08:40] ko lamang po [2:08:40] yung sinasabi nyo pong [2:08:41] losses [2:08:42] ng mga distribution [2:08:43] utilities [2:08:44] actually po [2:08:45] kaya po [2:08:46] meron tayong [2:08:47] system loss [2:08:48] cap [2:08:49] na tinatawag [2:08:50] kasi po [2:08:50] yung mga [2:08:51] deals na sinasabi [2:08:53] nating [2:08:53] inefficient [2:08:54] na lumalagpas [2:08:55] doon sa cap [2:08:56] at hindi nila [2:08:57] ginagawa ng [2:08:58] mahusay [2:08:58] yung kanilang [2:08:59] trabaho [2:08:59] para [2:08:59] ulihin [2:09:00] yung mga [2:09:01] magnanakaw [2:09:01] ng kuryente [2:09:02] yung above [2:09:03] the cap [2:09:03] na yun [2:09:04] inaabsorb [2:09:06] po [2:09:06] ng buong [2:09:06] buo [2:09:07] ng mga [2:09:07] utilities [2:09:07] yun [2:09:08] so [2:09:09] pag ikaw po [2:09:10] ang naging [2:09:10] criteria [2:09:11] patayan [2:09:11] ay [2:09:12] pag ikaw [2:09:12] ay bumaba [2:09:13] sa cap [2:09:14] medyo [2:09:15] sinasabi [2:09:15] natin [2:09:15] efficient [2:09:16] ka na [2:09:16] so [2:09:17] hindi mo [2:09:18] na inaabsorb [2:09:19] yung [2:09:20] losses [2:09:21] na yun [2:09:21] below [2:09:21] the cap [2:09:22] lahat po [2:09:23] kami [2:09:23] pagka [2:09:24] nagpo-prosecute [2:09:25] kami [2:09:25] ng [2:09:26] filperage [2:09:28] lahat po [2:09:28] yan [2:09:28] nang [2:09:29] nare-recover [2:09:29] ng [2:09:30] meralco [2:09:31] presyo [2:09:35] ng kuryente [2:09:35] na nawala [2:09:36] nung tinatawag [2:09:37] nating [2:09:37] billing [2:09:38] na nawala [2:09:39] binabalik din [2:09:40] namin yan [2:09:40] sa customers [2:09:41] bilang kabawasan [2:09:42] sa aming [2:09:43] generation cost [2:09:44] so [2:09:45] wala [2:09:45] hong [2:09:46] napupunta [2:09:46] sa [2:09:47] meralco [2:09:47] dyan [2:09:47] kasi [2:09:48] yung [2:09:48] nakukuha [2:09:48] inabalik [2:09:50] sa [2:09:50] customers [2:09:50] at [2:09:51] yung [2:09:52] buong [2:09:52] buong [2:09:53] system [2:09:54] loss [2:09:54] actually [2:09:54] part [2:09:55] ng [2:09:55] generation [2:09:55] cost [2:09:55] yan [2:09:56] binabayat [2:09:56] din [2:09:56] naman [2:09:57] yan [2:09:57] sa [2:09:57] generation [2:09:58] companies [2:09:58] so [2:09:59] si [2:09:59] meralco [2:10:00] po [2:10:00] ang [2:10:00] mangyayari [2:10:01] dahil [2:10:01] malaki [2:10:02] yung [2:10:02] magiging [2:10:02] expenses [2:10:03] niya [2:10:03] lahat [2:10:04] nung [2:10:05] expenses [2:10:05] namin [2:10:06] pagka [2:10:06] ina-attempt [2:10:07] namin [2:10:08] na [2:10:08] pababayan [2:10:10] ang aming [2:10:10] system [2:10:10] loss [2:10:11] I think [2:10:12] karaniwan [2:10:13] sa lahat [2:10:13] ng [2:10:13] distribution [2:10:14] utility [2:10:14] ipinipresentan [2:10:15] namin [2:10:15] sa [2:10:16] energy [2:10:16] regulatory [2:10:17] commission [2:10:17] ito po [2:10:18] yung mga [2:10:18] gas [2:10:19] in terms [2:10:20] of [2:10:20] capital [2:10:20] expenditures [2:10:21] and [2:10:22] operational [2:10:22] expenditures [2:10:23] at [2:10:23] evaluate [2:10:23] naman [2:10:24] ng ERC [2:10:24] yun [2:10:24] kung [2:10:25] ano [2:10:25] doon [2:10:25] yung [2:10:26] fair [2:10:26] expenses [2:10:27] na [2:10:27] pwede [2:10:28] nilang [2:10:28] sabihin [2:10:28] na [2:10:29] ipapakis [2:10:29] asama [2:10:30] nila [2:10:30] sa [2:10:30] taripa [2:10:31] In any [2:10:35] case [2:10:35] po [2:10:35] attorney [2:10:36] Valius [2:10:37] kung [2:10:37] gaya [2:10:38] nang [2:10:38] sinasabi [2:10:39] 1. [2:10:39] something [2:10:40] percent [2:10:40] lang [2:10:40] naman [2:10:41] ang [2:10:41] component [2:10:42] na [2:10:42] non [2:10:43] technical [2:10:43] itong [2:10:44] mga [2:10:44] pilferage [2:10:45] etc. [2:10:46] sa [2:10:46] kabuoang [2:10:47] systems [2:10:47] laws [2:10:48] ibig sabihin [2:10:48] 98 [2:10:49] point [2:10:50] something [2:10:50] percent [2:10:51] ang [2:10:51] systems [2:10:52] laws [2:10:52] mula [2:10:52] sa [2:10:52] technical [2:10:53] hindi [2:10:54] ko [2:10:54] in-excuse [2:10:55] kung [2:10:55] may [2:10:55] nanakaw [2:10:56] ng [2:10:56] kuryente [2:10:57] but [2:10:58] ibig [2:10:58] pong [2:10:58] sabihin [2:10:59] yung [2:10:59] overwhelming [2:11:00] na [2:11:01] responsibilidad [2:11:02] at [2:11:02] potential [2:11:03] na [2:11:03] i-address [2:11:04] yung [2:11:04] kabuoang [2:11:05] systems [2:11:05] laws [2:11:06] ay [2:11:06] dun [2:11:07] sa [2:11:07] technical [2:11:07] side [2:11:08] so [2:11:08] sa [2:11:08] distribution [2:11:09] utilities [2:11:10] po [2:11:10] ibig [2:11:10] sabihin [2:11:10] kung [2:11:11] fully [2:11:12] electrify [2:11:13] nyo [2:11:13] lahat [2:11:14] lahat [2:11:15] ng mga [2:11:15] households [2:11:16] sa [2:11:16] Pilipinas [2:11:17] and [2:11:18] kaya [2:11:18] ng [2:11:18] sinabi [2:11:19] ni [2:11:19] SP [2:11:19] kanina [2:11:20] maging [2:11:20] mas [2:11:20] efficient [2:11:21] ma-address [2:11:22] po [2:11:23] natin [2:11:23] I [2:11:23] think [2:11:24] in [2:11:24] large [2:11:24] part [2:11:24] yung [2:11:25] 5% [2:11:26] lang [2:11:26] na [2:11:27] charge [2:11:27] sa [2:11:28] systems [2:11:29] losses [2:11:30] if I [2:11:30] may [2:11:31] Mr. [2:11:31] Chair [2:11:31] dahil [2:11:31] on board [2:11:32] ang [2:11:32] Meralco [2:11:32] may [2:11:33] tanong [2:11:33] po [2:11:33] ako [2:11:34] sa [2:11:34] kanila [2:11:34] at [2:11:34] sa [2:11:34] ERC [2:11:35] tungkol [2:11:35] sa [2:11:35] consumer [2:11:36] protection [2:11:36] before [2:11:37] that [2:11:38] Sen [2:11:40] Risa [2:11:41] hindi po [2:11:42] po ninyo [2:11:43] nasagot [2:11:43] at [2:11:43] Tony [2:11:43] Valles [2:11:44] anong [2:11:44] ginagamit [2:11:45] po ninyo [2:11:45] na formula [2:11:46] batayan [2:11:47] para [2:11:47] masabi [2:11:48] na itong [2:11:48] bahay [2:11:49] sa [2:11:49] number [2:11:50] 123 [2:11:51] Sampalok [2:11:51] ito [2:11:52] yung [2:11:52] systems [2:11:52] loss [2:11:53] nya [2:11:53] yung [2:11:54] kapitbahay [2:11:54] nya [2:11:54] 124 [2:11:55] ito [2:11:56] yung [2:11:56] systems [2:11:57] loss [2:11:57] anong [2:11:58] pinagbabasihan [2:11:59] nyo [2:11:59] roon [2:12:00] o [2:12:01] pare-pareho [2:12:01] lang [2:12:02] bahay [2:12:02] number [2:12:03] one [2:12:03] bahay [2:12:04] number [2:12:04] two [2:12:04] bahay [2:12:04] number [2:12:05] three [2:12:05] mas [2:12:06] malaki [2:12:06] si [2:12:06] number [2:12:07] three [2:12:07] yung [2:12:07] consumo [2:12:07] nya [2:12:08] mas [2:12:08] malaki [2:12:10] ba [2:12:10] systems [2:12:10] loss [2:12:11] nya [2:12:11] paano [2:12:11] kung [2:12:12] yung [2:12:12] maliit [2:12:12] ang [2:12:12] consumo [2:12:13] mas [2:12:13] maliit [2:12:14] ba [2:12:14] systems [2:12:14] loss [2:12:14] nya [2:12:15] hindi [2:12:15] po [2:12:15] ba [2:12:16] uniform [2:12:16] or [2:12:16] standard [2:12:17] ang [2:12:17] pagsisingil [2:12:18] ng [2:12:18] systems [2:12:18] loss [2:12:19] at [2:12:19] what [2:12:19] kind [2:12:19] of [2:12:19] formula [2:12:20] are [2:12:20] you [2:12:20] using [2:12:21] uniform [2:12:23] po [2:12:23] ang [2:12:24] singil [2:12:26] ng [2:12:26] system [2:12:27] loss [2:12:27] charge [2:12:27] magkakaiba [2:12:29] lamang [2:12:29] po [2:12:29] yan [2:12:29] per [2:12:30] customer [2:12:30] class [2:12:31] iba [2:12:32] sa [2:12:33] residential [2:12:33] iba [2:12:34] sa [2:12:34] commercial [2:12:36] or [2:12:36] industrial [2:12:36] pero [2:12:37] yung [2:12:37] pag pumunta [2:12:38] po [2:12:39] bahay-bahay [2:12:39] ang mga [2:12:40] meter [2:12:41] reader [2:12:41] na [2:12:42] meralco [2:12:43] ang tinitignan [2:12:44] lamang po [2:12:44] doon [2:12:44] kung ano [2:12:45] yung [2:12:45] basa [2:12:46] sa meter [2:12:47] kagaya [2:12:48] po [2:12:48] nito [2:12:49] sa [2:12:49] example [2:12:50] ni [2:12:51] sa [2:12:51] Risa [2:12:52] 238 [2:12:53] ang [2:12:53] systems [2:12:53] loss [2:12:54] lahat [2:12:55] sila [2:12:55] sa [2:12:55] barangay [2:12:55] na yan [2:12:56] 238 [2:12:56] lahat [2:12:57] sila [2:12:57] kahit [2:12:57] na [2:12:58] paano [2:12:58] kung [2:12:58] wala [2:12:59] siyang [2:12:59] refrigerator [2:13:00] walang [2:13:00] aircon [2:13:01] 238 [2:13:02] pa rin [2:13:02] ang [2:13:02] systems [2:13:03] loss [2:13:03] nya [2:13:03] hindi [2:13:04] hindi [2:13:04] po [2:13:04] your [2:13:05] honor [2:13:05] ang [2:13:06] ibig [2:13:06] kong [2:13:06] sabihin [2:13:06] ang [2:13:07] rate [2:13:07] per [2:13:07] kilowatt [2:13:08] hour [2:13:08] po [2:13:08] ng [2:13:10] system [2:13:10] loss [2:13:10] charge [2:13:11] pare-parehas [2:13:12] pero magkakaiba [2:13:14] yan [2:13:14] sa [2:13:15] billing [2:13:15] depende [2:13:16] sa [2:13:16] konsumo [2:13:16] kung [2:13:17] 1,000 [2:13:18] kilowatt [2:13:19] hour [2:13:19] ang [2:13:19] kinonsumo [2:13:19] niya [2:13:20] yung [2:13:20] multiply [2:13:21] po [2:13:21] yan [2:13:21] yung [2:13:21] rate [2:13:21] per [2:13:22] kilowatt [2:13:22] hour [2:13:22] yun [2:13:22] po [2:13:22] yung [2:13:23] magiging [2:13:23] lalabas [2:13:24] na [2:13:24] system [2:13:24] charge [2:13:25] sa [2:13:25] kanyang [2:13:26] bill [2:13:26] so [2:13:27] kung [2:13:27] 8500 [2:13:28] naman [2:13:28] po [2:13:29] ang [2:13:29] kilowatt [2:13:30] hour [2:13:34] charge [2:13:34] dito [2:13:34] sa [2:13:34] kanyang [2:13:35] rate [2:13:37] sa [2:13:38] Risa [2:13:38] Salamat [2:13:39] Chair [2:13:39] at [2:13:40] muli [2:13:40] point [2:13:41] out [2:13:41] ko [2:13:41] na [2:13:41] dito [2:13:42] sa [2:13:42] sample [2:13:43] bill [2:13:43] na [2:13:43] to [2:13:43] yung [2:13:44] system [2:13:44] loss [2:13:45] ay [2:13:45] 6 [2:13:46] lang [2:13:46] na [2:13:46] pinakamataas [2:13:47] na [2:13:47] pass [2:13:48] on [2:13:48] charge [2:13:48] di [2:13:49] hamak [2:13:49] na [2:13:49] mas [2:13:49] matataas [2:13:50] una [2:13:50] yung [2:13:50] generation [2:13:51] tapos [2:13:52] yung [2:13:53] distribution [2:13:55] in [2:13:56] this [2:13:56] case [2:13:56] Meralco [2:13:57] yung [2:13:58] government [2:14:01] taxes [2:14:01] na [2:14:02] nabagit [2:14:02] din [2:14:02] kanina [2:14:02] taxation [2:14:03] pang [2:14:04] 4 [2:14:04] transmission [2:14:05] pang [2:14:06] lima [2:14:06] transmission [2:14:09] and [2:14:10] then [2:14:10] finally [2:14:11] on [2:14:11] this [2:14:12] bill [2:14:12] yung [2:14:12] systems [2:14:12] laws [2:14:13] pwede [2:14:16] pa [2:14:16] natin [2:14:16] i-examine [2:14:17] further [2:14:17] mas [2:14:18] malalim [2:14:18] yung [2:14:18] lima [2:14:19] pang [2:14:19] mas [2:14:20] malalaking [2:14:20] may [2:14:21] pass [2:14:22] through [2:14:22] charge [2:14:22] character [2:14:23] sa mga [2:14:24] bill [2:14:24] po [2:14:24] natin [2:14:25] May [2:14:26] finel [2:14:27] po [2:14:27] akong [2:14:27] bill [2:14:27] ngayong [2:14:28] linggo [2:14:28] iniitay [2:14:29] ko [2:14:29] lang [2:14:29] kung [2:14:29] ma-refer [2:14:30] sa [2:14:30] committee [2:14:30] niyo [2:14:31] tungkol [2:14:31] sa [2:14:32] consumer [2:14:32] protection [2:14:33] at [2:14:33] gusto [2:14:33] ko [2:14:33] niitanong [2:14:34] ito [2:14:34] sa [2:14:34] Meralco [2:14:35] at [2:14:35] sa [2:14:35] ERC [2:14:36] kasi [2:14:37] nga po [2:14:37] may [2:14:38] nagbangit [2:14:38] na rin po [2:14:38] kanina [2:14:39] marami [2:14:39] po [2:14:39] sa mga [2:14:39] kababayan [2:14:40] natin [2:14:41] nagre-reklamo [2:14:42] sa maling [2:14:42] meter reading [2:14:43] kaya [2:14:44] tumaas [2:14:44] po yung [2:14:45] singil [2:14:45] sa kuryente [2:14:46] nila [2:14:46] yung bill [2:14:47] nila [2:14:47] for the record [2:14:49] lamang po [2:14:49] para marinig [2:14:50] yung [2:14:50] publiko [2:14:50] natin [2:14:51] hindi [2:14:52] po ba [2:14:53] official [2:14:53] policy [2:14:54] or [2:14:54] official [2:14:55] policy [2:14:55] po [2:14:56] pa [2:14:56] na [2:14:56] kailangan [2:14:57] munang [2:14:57] bayaran [2:14:58] ang [2:14:58] singil [2:14:59] kahit [2:15:00] pa [2:15:00] may [2:15:02] protesta [2:15:02] kailangan [2:15:03] bang [2:15:04] bayaran [2:15:04] yung [2:15:05] full [2:15:05] amount [2:15:05] kahit [2:15:06] nagprotesta [2:15:07] yung [2:15:07] customer [2:15:08] na [2:15:08] mali [2:15:09] po [2:15:09] yung [2:15:09] reading [2:15:09] na [2:15:10] to [2:15:10] sa [2:15:10] metro [2:15:10] ko [2:15:10] Atty. [2:15:12] Yes, [2:15:13] Mr. [2:15:13] Chair. [2:15:13] Ang mga [2:15:18] consumers [2:15:18] po [2:15:19] na may [2:15:19] reklamo [2:15:21] tungkol [2:15:21] sa kanilang [2:15:22] billing [2:15:23] or sa kanilang [2:15:24] meter reading [2:15:24] pag sila [2:15:25] po ay [2:15:25] tumugon [2:15:26] sa Energy [2:15:26] Regulatory [2:15:27] Commission [2:15:27] automatic [2:15:28] po [2:15:28] hindi [2:15:29] na po [2:15:30] na [2:15:30] enforce [2:15:30] yung [2:15:31] disconnection [2:15:32] so [2:15:32] pag [2:15:33] hindi [2:15:33] po [2:15:33] na [2:15:33] enforce [2:15:34] yung [2:15:34] disconnection [2:15:34] na [2:15:35] o [2:15:35] hold [2:15:35] nila [2:15:35] yung [2:15:36] kanilang [2:15:37] payment [2:15:38] ng [2:15:38] bills [2:15:38] pero [2:15:39] wala pong [2:15:41] official [2:15:41] policy [2:15:42] may [2:15:43] recollection [2:15:43] na [2:15:44] dapat [2:15:45] ay [2:15:45] hindi [2:15:45] sila [2:15:46] magbayad [2:15:47] ng [2:15:48] bill [2:15:48] pero [2:15:49] sa [2:15:49] Meral [2:15:49] po [2:15:49] ang [2:15:50] ginagawa [2:15:50] namin [2:15:51] tinitignan [2:15:51] namin [2:15:52] yung [2:15:52] mga [2:15:53] reklamo [2:15:53] yung [2:15:54] mga [2:15:54] complaints [2:15:54] at [2:15:55] within [2:15:56] the same [2:15:57] day [2:15:58] or two [2:15:58] days [2:15:58] nire-resolve [2:15:59] po [2:15:59] namin [2:15:59] yan [2:16:00] bago [2:16:00] pa [2:16:00] dumating [2:16:01] sa [2:16:02] due [2:16:02] date [2:16:02] ng [2:16:02] bill [2:16:02] so [2:16:04] malaking [2:16:04] porsyento [2:16:04] ng [2:16:05] mga [2:16:05] reklamo [2:16:05] na [2:16:06] yan [2:16:06] nare-resolve [2:16:06] namin [2:16:07] in a [2:16:07] matter [2:16:07] of [2:16:07] 24 [2:16:08] hours [2:16:08] or [2:16:09] 48 [2:16:09] hours [2:16:09] bago [2:16:10] pa [2:16:11] dumating [2:16:11] yung [2:16:11] due [2:16:12] date [2:16:12] ng [2:16:12] bill [2:16:12] para [2:16:13] pagdating [2:16:13] ng [2:16:13] due [2:16:14] date [2:16:14] ng [2:16:14] bill [2:16:14] alam [2:16:15] na [2:16:15] nila [2:16:15] kung [2:16:16] ano [2:16:16] po [2:16:16] yung [2:16:16] tamang [2:16:17] bayarin [2:16:18] sa [2:16:18] kanilang [2:16:19] kuryente [2:16:20] wala [2:16:21] wala [2:16:21] wala [2:16:21] wala [2:16:21] wala [2:16:21] bang [2:16:21] planong [2:16:21] meral [2:16:22] magkaroon [2:16:23] ng [2:16:23] official [2:16:24] company [2:16:24] policy [2:16:25] na [2:16:25] kung [2:16:26] may [2:16:26] protesta [2:16:26] yung [2:16:27] customer [2:16:27] nyo [2:16:27] anyway [2:16:28] 70% [2:16:29] kayo [2:16:29] ng [2:16:29] market [2:16:29] kung [2:16:30] may [2:16:30] protesta [2:16:31] po [2:16:31] sila [2:16:31] dahil [2:16:31] sasabihin [2:16:32] nila [2:16:32] mali [2:16:33] po [2:16:33] yung [2:16:33] meeting [2:16:33] nating [2:16:33] namin [2:16:34] ay [2:16:35] hindi [2:16:35] nyo [2:16:35] muna [2:16:36] sila [2:16:36] puputulan [2:16:37] ng [2:16:37] kuryente [2:16:37] ginagawa [2:16:38] po [2:16:39] namin [2:16:39] yan [2:16:39] your [2:16:40] honor [2:16:40] kung [2:16:41] alimbawa [2:16:42] po [2:16:43] at [2:16:43] pag [2:16:44] evaluate [2:16:45] namin [2:16:45] ng [2:16:45] kanilang [2:16:46] complaint [2:16:46] ay nakita [2:16:47] namin [2:16:47] na talagang [2:16:48] kami [2:16:49] initial [2:16:49] evaluation [2:16:50] pa lang [2:16:51] po [2:16:51] ito [2:16:51] nakita [2:16:52] namin [2:16:53] na [2:16:53] langan [2:16:54] busisigin [2:16:54] ng [2:16:54] mabuti [2:16:55] at [2:16:55] mukhang [2:16:56] tama [2:16:57] ang [2:16:57] complaint [2:16:57] ng [2:16:58] customer [2:16:58] inuhold [2:16:59] na po [2:17:00] namin [2:17:00] yan [2:17:00] hindi [2:17:01] na po [2:17:01] namin [2:17:01] pinipidit [2:17:02] sa [2:17:02] customer [2:17:02] na [2:17:03] pabayarin [2:17:04] pero [2:17:04] sana po [2:17:05] maintindihan [2:17:06] natin [2:17:06] na may [2:17:07] mga [2:17:07] consumer [2:17:07] po [2:17:08] kasi [2:17:08] na [2:17:08] inaabuso [2:17:09] yung [2:17:09] mga [2:17:09] ganitong [2:17:10] pagkataon [2:17:11] na magre-reklamo [2:17:12] kahit [2:17:12] naman [2:17:13] walang [2:17:13] basiyano [2:17:13] ang [2:17:13] reklamo [2:17:14] para [2:17:14] hindi [2:17:16] sila [2:17:16] makapag [2:17:17] bayad [2:17:18] at [2:17:18] mahold [2:17:18] yung [2:17:18] disconnection [2:17:19] kaya [2:17:19] tinitimbang [2:17:20] namin [2:17:21] so [2:17:21] kung [2:17:22] tingin [2:17:22] namin [2:17:23] initial [2:17:23] evaluation [2:17:24] ay [2:17:24] walang [2:17:25] basiyan [2:17:25] at [2:17:25] tama [2:17:26] naman [2:17:26] yung [2:17:27] healing [2:17:27] namin [2:17:28] ay [2:17:30] hindi [2:17:30] po [2:17:30] namin [2:17:30] inuhold [2:17:31] yung [2:17:31] disconnection [2:17:32] pero [2:17:32] kung [2:17:33] hindi po [2:17:33] siya [2:17:33] satisfied [2:17:34] yun [2:17:35] na po [2:17:35] yung [2:17:36] pagkakataon [2:17:36] niyang [2:17:36] pumunta [2:17:37] sa [2:17:37] Energy [2:17:37] Regulatory [2:17:38] Commission [2:17:38] at [2:17:38] pagdating [2:17:39] naman [2:17:39] sa [2:17:39] Energy [2:17:39] Regulatory [2:17:40] Commission [2:17:40] panfiring [2:17:41] ng [2:17:41] reklamo [2:17:42] eh [2:17:42] nahuhold [2:17:44] na po [2:17:44] yung [2:17:44] disconnection [2:17:45] Siyempre [2:17:46] po [2:17:46] attorney [2:17:46] mas [2:17:46] mahirap [2:17:47] pumunta [2:17:47] ang [2:17:47] isang [2:17:48] customer [2:17:48] sa [2:17:48] ERC [2:17:49] kesa [2:17:49] dumulog [2:17:50] diretso [2:17:51] sa [2:17:51] Meralco [2:17:52] meron [2:17:52] din po [2:17:52] mga [2:17:53] tao [2:17:53] na [2:17:53] kahit [2:17:54] nag [2:17:54] protesta [2:17:55] sila [2:17:55] na [2:17:56] mali [2:17:56] daw [2:17:57] yung [2:17:58] meter [2:17:58] reading [2:17:59] na [2:17:59] hindi po [2:17:59] na nga [2:17:59] abuso [2:18:00] pero [2:18:00] seryosong [2:18:01] nagsasabi [2:18:01] mali pa [2:18:02] yung [2:18:02] meter [2:18:02] reading [2:18:02] posible [2:18:03] parang [2:18:04] yung [2:18:04] isang [2:18:04] halimbawa [2:18:04] ni [2:18:05] chair [2:18:05] kanina [2:18:05] in the [2:18:06] meantime [2:18:07] habang [2:18:08] nire-review [2:18:08] ng [2:18:08] Meralco [2:18:09] main [2:18:09] office [2:18:10] napuputulan [2:18:10] na po [2:18:11] sila [2:18:11] so [2:18:11] are you [2:18:12] telling [2:18:12] the [2:18:12] committee [2:18:13] po [2:18:13] na [2:18:13] Meralco [2:18:14] is not [2:18:14] thinking [2:18:15] right [2:18:15] now [2:18:16] of [2:18:16] having [2:18:17] a [2:18:17] company [2:18:18] official [2:18:18] policy [2:18:19] na [2:18:19] anyway [2:18:20] ilang [2:18:20] percentage [2:18:21] po [2:18:21] ba [2:18:21] ng mga [2:18:26] 8.3 [2:18:31] million [2:18:31] customers [2:18:32] at [2:18:33] to my [2:18:34] recollection [2:18:35] nasa [2:18:37] 2 million [2:18:38] 2 million [2:18:40] yung [2:18:40] may mga [2:18:40] complaints [2:18:41] about [2:18:41] sorry [2:18:43] 2,000 [2:18:47] 2,000 [2:18:48] sorry [2:18:48] 2,000 [2:18:49] yung [2:18:50] may mga [2:18:51] customer [2:18:53] complaints [2:18:54] na [2:18:54] inevaluate [2:18:55] po [2:18:55] namin [2:18:56] ngayon [2:18:56] po [2:18:57] ang [2:18:57] dapat [2:18:59] po [2:18:59] natin [2:18:59] ma [2:18:59] isip [2:19:01] sana [2:19:01] pinigil [2:19:03] po [2:19:04] nila [2:19:04] yung [2:19:04] pagbabayad [2:19:05] halimbawa [2:19:05] po [2:19:06] ito [2:19:06] ay [2:19:06] tumami [2:19:06] at [2:19:07] maabuso [2:19:07] at [2:19:07] napigilan [2:19:08] yung [2:19:08] pagbabayad [2:19:09] kami po [2:19:09] yung [2:19:10] distribution [2:19:10] utility [2:19:11] naman po [2:19:11] hindi [2:19:11] naman po [2:19:12] namin [2:19:12] nabipigilan [2:19:12] yung [2:19:13] pagbabayad [2:19:13] doon [2:19:14] sa [2:19:14] generation [2:19:15] transmission [2:19:16] sa [2:19:16] taxes [2:19:16] sa [2:19:17] mga [2:19:18] subsidies [2:19:18] ang [2:19:19] distribution [2:19:20] component [2:19:22] po [2:19:22] total [2:19:22] bill [2:19:23] nasa [2:19:23] around [2:19:24] 10% [2:19:24] lang [2:19:25] po [2:19:25] so [2:19:25] in [2:19:26] other [2:19:26] words [2:19:26] yung [2:19:27] 90% [2:19:27] po [2:19:27] ng [2:19:28] total [2:19:28] bill [2:19:28] i-advance [2:19:29] na po [2:19:29] namin [2:19:30] yun [2:19:30] sa [2:19:31] mga [2:19:31] suppliers [2:19:32] sa [2:19:32] gobyerno [2:19:33] habang [2:19:34] naka-hold [2:19:35] ang [2:19:35] paniningil [2:19:36] namin [2:19:36] dito [2:19:36] sa [2:19:37] mga [2:19:37] customers [2:19:37] na [2:19:37] to [2:19:37] kaya [2:19:38] mabusisi [2:19:38] po [2:19:38] namin [2:19:39] tinignan [2:19:40] kung [2:19:40] ano [2:19:40] po [2:19:41] talaga [2:19:41] yung [2:19:41] may [2:19:41] mga [2:19:41] basihan [2:19:42] na [2:19:42] reklamo [2:19:42] last [2:19:44] last [2:19:44] appeal [2:19:44] nalang [2:19:45] attorney [2:19:45] 2,000 [2:19:46] lang [2:19:46] pala [2:19:47] sa [2:19:47] 8 [2:19:47] million [2:19:48] plus [2:19:48] yung [2:19:48] customers [2:19:49] so [2:19:50] ano ba [2:19:50] yun [2:19:50] 0.0025% [2:19:53] or [2:19:53] 0.025% [2:19:55] so [2:19:56] lalo [2:19:57] na panahon [2:19:57] ng [2:19:57] krisis [2:19:58] ngayon [2:19:58] I don't [2:20:00] know [2:20:00] maybe [2:20:00] I'll [2:20:00] just [2:20:00] leave [2:20:01] it [2:20:01] as [2:20:01] a [2:20:01] palaisapan [2:20:03] para [2:20:03] sa [2:20:04] konsiderasyon [2:20:05] ninyo [2:20:05] generate [2:20:06] a bit [2:20:07] more [2:20:07] goodwill [2:20:10] sa [2:20:11] customers [2:20:12] na [2:20:12] dagdag [2:20:13] na [2:20:13] konsiderasyon [2:20:14] na [2:20:15] habang [2:20:16] itong [2:20:16] 2,000 [2:20:17] lang [2:20:17] na [2:20:17] households [2:20:18] pero [2:20:18] 2,000 [2:20:19] households [2:20:19] pa rin [2:20:20] ay may [2:20:20] protest [2:20:21] na [2:20:21] dahil [2:20:21] di [2:20:21] umano [2:20:22] mali [2:20:23] ang [2:20:23] pagbasa [2:20:23] sa [2:20:23] metro [2:20:24] nila [2:20:24] for [2:20:27] the [2:20:27] consideration [2:20:28] of [2:20:28] Meralco [2:20:28] habang [2:20:29] binabakan [2:20:30] nyo rin [2:20:30] yung [2:20:30] issue [2:20:31] ng [2:20:31] system [2:20:32] laws [2:20:32] na [2:20:33] on [2:20:33] the [2:20:33] side [2:20:34] of [2:20:34] reading [2:20:35] of [2:20:35] the [2:20:36] meters [2:20:36] at [2:20:36] pagsingil [2:20:37] ng [2:20:37] bill [2:20:37] to [2:20:37] consider [2:20:38] an [2:20:40] official [2:20:40] company [2:20:41] policy [2:20:41] na [2:20:42] wala [2:20:42] munang [2:20:42] pagputol [2:20:44] habang [2:20:44] under [2:20:45] protest [2:20:45] dahil [2:20:45] di [2:20:46] umano [2:20:46] sa [2:20:47] wrong [2:20:47] meter [2:20:47] reading [2:20:47] I'll leave that [2:20:49] for your [2:20:49] consideration [2:20:50] attorney [2:20:50] Yes [2:20:51] po [2:20:51] salamat [2:20:52] po [2:20:52] Alright [2:20:53] walang [2:20:54] anuman [2:20:54] If you [2:20:56] would [2:20:56] care [2:20:56] to get [2:20:57] back [2:20:57] to our [2:20:57] chair [2:20:57] about [2:20:58] that [2:20:58] anytime [2:20:58] soon [2:20:59] ma-appreciate [2:21:00] po [2:21:00] Doe [2:21:07] po [2:21:07] napangit [2:21:08] ko [2:21:08] na [2:21:09] po [2:21:09] na [2:21:09] nasa [2:21:10] crisis [2:21:10] po [2:21:11] tayo [2:21:11] at [2:21:11] nakapag [2:21:11] declara [2:21:12] po [2:21:12] ng [2:21:12] national [2:21:13] energy [2:21:14] emergency [2:21:14] so [2:21:15] parallel [2:21:16] question [2:21:17] posible [2:21:18] po [2:21:18] ba [2:21:18] magpatupad [2:21:19] ang [2:21:19] pamahalaan [2:21:20] ng [2:21:20] price [2:21:21] cap [2:21:22] price [2:21:23] cap [2:21:24] ngayong [2:21:24] tumataas [2:21:24] ang panahon [2:21:25] ng [2:21:25] petrolyo [2:21:26] at [2:21:26] yun [2:21:26] na [2:21:26] nasa [2:21:27] national [2:21:27] energy [2:21:27] emergency [2:21:28] price [2:21:29] cap [2:21:29] po [2:21:29] dito [2:21:30] sa presyo [2:21:31] ng [2:21:32] kuryente [2:21:32] sa ating [2:21:32] mga [2:21:33] kababayan [2:21:34] Well we [2:21:37] will consult [2:21:37] with our [2:21:38] team [2:21:38] in the [2:21:39] DOE [2:21:40] on that [2:21:40] matter [2:21:40] and we [2:21:41] will [2:21:41] refer [2:21:41] Thank you [2:21:42] May follow-up [2:21:43] ko [2:21:43] Senrisa [2:21:45] Yusek [2:21:46] Rio [2:21:47] and [2:21:47] Attorney [2:21:47] Juan [2:21:48] What [2:21:49] will [2:21:49] it [2:21:50] take [2:21:50] para [2:21:51] ikang [2:21:52] makontrol [2:21:53] natin [2:21:54] itong [2:21:54] particular [2:21:55] generation [2:21:56] charges [2:21:57] na ito [2:21:57] Alam [2:21:58] ko [2:21:58] deregulated [2:21:59] parang [2:21:59] gasolina [2:22:00] din [2:22:00] kaya [2:22:00] medyo [2:22:02] allergic [2:22:02] po [2:22:03] sa mga [2:22:03] deregulation [2:22:04] na ito [2:22:05] What [2:22:05] will it [2:22:06] take [2:22:06] I know [2:22:07] hindi naman [2:22:07] pwede [2:22:07] natin [2:22:08] deregulate [2:22:08] pero [2:22:09] putting [2:22:10] a price [2:22:10] up [2:22:10] giving [2:22:10] you [2:22:11] the [2:22:11] powers [2:22:12] cost [2:22:17] fuel [2:22:18] cost [2:22:19] coal [2:22:20] and [2:22:21] then [2:22:21] yung [2:22:21] profit [2:22:21] ninyo [2:22:22] What [2:22:23] will [2:22:23] it [2:22:23] take [2:22:23] for [2:22:23] this [2:22:24] committee [2:22:24] to [2:22:25] give [2:22:25] you [2:22:25] what [2:22:25] kind [2:22:26] of [2:22:26] power [2:22:26] so [2:22:26] that [2:22:27] you [2:22:27] can [2:22:28] put [2:22:29] a [2:22:29] price [2:22:29] cap [2:22:30] what [2:22:30] do [2:22:30] you [2:22:33] need [2:22:33] attorney [2:22:34] Mr. [2:22:36] Chair [2:22:36] the [2:22:37] DOE [2:22:38] has [2:22:38] been [2:22:38] very [2:22:38] bullish [2:22:39] in [2:22:39] encouraging [2:22:40] what [2:22:41] we [2:22:41] call [2:22:41] the [2:22:42] retail [2:22:42] competition [2:22:43] the [2:22:43] open [2:22:44] competition [2:22:44] and [2:22:45] that [2:22:46] will [2:22:46] give [2:22:46] the [2:22:47] consumer [2:22:48] the [2:22:49] right [2:22:49] to [2:22:49] choose [2:22:50] the [2:22:50] supplier [2:22:51] that [2:22:51] they [2:22:51] would [2:22:52] want [2:22:52] to [2:22:53] supply [2:22:53] from [2:22:54] where [2:22:54] they [2:22:55] were [2:22:55] going [2:22:55] to [2:22:55] get [2:22:55] the [2:22:55] supply [2:22:56] and [2:22:56] it's [2:22:56] a [2:22:56] negotiated [2:22:57] contract [2:22:58] so [2:22:59] this [2:22:59] has [2:22:59] been [2:22:59] lower [2:23:00] the [2:23:00] threshold [2:23:00] it [2:23:01] started [2:23:01] as [2:23:01] a [2:23:02] 1 [2:23:02] megawatt [2:23:02] threshold [2:23:03] it's [2:23:03] now [2:23:03] down [2:23:03] to [2:23:04] 100 [2:23:04] kilowatt [2:23:05] and [2:23:05] in [2:23:05] fact [2:23:06] together [2:23:07] with [2:23:08] ERC [2:23:08] the [2:23:09] ERC [2:23:09] has [2:23:10] already [2:23:10] issued [2:23:11] retail [2:23:12] aggregation [2:23:13] where [2:23:14] the [2:23:15] households [2:23:15] even [2:23:16] if [2:23:16] they're [2:23:17] less [2:23:17] than [2:23:17] 100 [2:23:17] kilowatt [2:23:18] they can [2:23:18] aggregate [2:23:19] their [2:23:20] demand [2:23:20] and [2:23:21] actually [2:23:21] negotiate [2:23:22] with [2:23:23] their [2:23:23] supplier [2:23:24] this [2:23:24] will [2:23:25] empower [2:23:25] the [2:23:26] power [2:23:33] from [2:23:34] so [2:23:35] sa [2:23:36] tayo [2:23:36] isang [2:23:36] kumulaan [2:23:47] si [2:23:47] Penelco [2:23:49] wala [2:23:49] namang [2:23:49] other [2:23:50] companies [2:23:50] po [2:23:51] na [2:23:51] pwede [2:23:52] lang [2:23:52] pagpipili [2:23:53] an [2:23:53] kung [2:23:53] meron [2:23:53] lang [2:23:53] siguro [2:23:54] pipiliin [2:23:54] na [2:23:55] Actually [2:23:55] Mr. Chair [2:23:57] meron [2:23:57] na tayong [2:23:58] tinatawag [2:23:58] na [2:23:59] retail [2:23:59] electricity [2:23:59] suppliers [2:24:00] and [2:24:02] there [2:24:02] are [2:24:02] very [2:24:02] like [2:24:03] for [2:24:03] example [2:24:03] the [2:24:03] recent [2:24:04] may [2:24:04] mga [2:24:05] big [2:24:07] companies [2:24:07] already [2:24:08] that [2:24:08] have [2:24:08] already [2:24:09] opted [2:24:10] to [2:24:10] get [2:24:11] their [2:24:11] supply [2:24:11] from [2:24:12] retail [2:24:12] electricity [2:24:13] suppliers [2:24:13] and [2:24:14] as [2:24:14] mentioned [2:24:15] it [2:24:15] has [2:24:15] already [2:24:15] gone [2:24:16] down [2:24:16] to [2:24:16] 100 [2:24:16] kilowatt [2:24:17] as a [2:24:18] threshold [2:24:18] and [2:24:19] it [2:24:20] can [2:24:20] even [2:24:20] be [2:24:21] less [2:24:21] than [2:24:21] that [2:24:21] the [2:24:22] threshold [2:24:22] by [2:24:22] aggregating [2:24:23] their [2:24:24] demand [2:24:25] and [2:24:25] they [2:24:26] can [2:24:26] actually [2:24:27] contract [2:24:28] or [2:24:29] contact [2:24:29] this [2:24:30] retail [2:24:30] electricity [2:24:30] supplier [2:24:31] and [2:24:31] negotiate [2:24:32] for [2:24:32] lower [2:24:33] rates [2:24:33] and [2:24:33] the [2:24:34] number [2:24:35] of [2:24:35] electricity [2:24:36] suppliers [2:24:36] have [2:24:37] really [2:24:37] been [2:24:37] has [2:24:39] gone [2:24:39] up [2:24:39] and [2:24:39] the [2:24:40] competition [2:24:40] is [2:24:41] very [2:24:41] strict [2:24:43] already [2:24:43] and [2:24:43] they [2:24:43] have [2:24:44] that [2:24:44] option [2:24:44] Mr. [2:24:44] Chair [2:24:45] Attorney [2:24:45] Juan [2:24:46] what [2:24:47] need [2:24:48] for [2:24:49] the [2:24:51] past [2:24:52] 20 [2:24:52] plus [2:24:53] years [2:24:53] and [2:24:54] many [2:24:55] pass [2:24:55] on [2:24:56] charges [2:24:56] to [2:24:56] people [2:24:57] have [2:24:58] to [2:24:59] give [2:25:00] us [2:25:00] an [2:25:00] idea [2:25:00] to [2:25:03] review [2:25:03] the [2:25:03] EPHERA [2:25:03] law [2:25:04] and [2:25:04] then [2:25:04] you're [2:25:04] requesting [2:25:05] for [2:25:05] more [2:25:05] power [2:25:05] so [2:25:06] what [2:25:06] will [2:25:07] it [2:25:07] take [2:25:08] for [2:25:08] you're [2:25:10] need [2:25:10] what [2:25:11] kind [2:25:11] of [2:25:12] power [2:25:13] or [2:25:33] something [2:25:33] that [2:25:33] you [2:25:33] need [2:25:34] to [2:25:34] control [2:25:35] this [2:25:35] kasi [2:25:35] alam [2:25:35] ko [2:25:35] yung [2:25:36] mga [2:25:36] infrastruktura [2:25:37] kasama [2:25:37] na [2:25:37] yung [2:25:37] transmission [2:25:38] at [2:25:38] yung [2:25:38] mga [2:25:39] distribution [2:25:39] masabay [2:25:40] lang [2:25:40] dun [2:25:40] sa [2:25:41] paglaki [2:25:41] ng [2:25:41] demand [2:25:42] at [2:25:42] kung [2:25:43] nakakaroon [2:25:44] na nga [2:25:44] nung [2:25:44] mga [2:25:45] pagtanda [2:25:46] nung [2:25:46] ibang [2:25:46] mga [2:25:46] planta [2:25:47] natin [2:25:47] at [2:25:47] yung [2:25:47] mga [2:25:48] infrastruktura [2:25:48] kasama [2:25:49] na yung [2:25:49] transmission [2:25:50] at [2:25:50] yung [2:25:50] mga [2:25:50] distribution [2:25:51] sa tuwing [2:25:52] magkakaroon [2:25:53] ng mga [2:25:53] ganitong [2:25:53] aberya [2:25:54] ay [2:25:54] nagkukulang [2:25:55] ang supply [2:25:56] at [2:25:57] nagre-react [2:25:58] ang [2:25:58] merkado [2:25:58] nagkakaroon [2:25:59] ng [2:25:59] pagtaas [2:26:00] sa ating [2:26:00] mga [2:26:01] singil [2:26:01] lalo [2:26:01] na sa [2:26:02] wholesale [2:26:02] electricity [2:26:03] spot [2:26:03] market [2:26:04] so [2:26:05] kung [2:26:05] ako [2:26:05] ang [2:26:06] matatanong [2:26:06] siyempre [2:26:07] ang supply [2:26:07] kailangan [2:26:08] natin [2:26:08] ayusin [2:26:09] at [2:26:09] siguruhin [2:26:10] na talagang [2:26:11] magkakaroon [2:26:12] ng [2:26:13] kalagdagang [2:26:13] mga [2:26:13] supply [2:26:14] upang [2:26:14] matugunan [2:26:15] yung [2:26:16] lumalaking [2:26:16] demand [2:26:17] natin [2:26:17] sa [2:26:17] kuryente [2:26:18] at [2:26:18] ano [2:26:18] namang [2:26:19] klaseng [2:26:19] supply [2:26:20] ang [2:26:20] kailangan [2:26:20] nating [2:26:20] paghandaan [2:26:21] siyempre [2:26:22] po [2:26:22] dahil [2:26:22] ito [2:26:23] ay [2:26:23] privadong [2:26:25] sektor [2:26:25] ang [2:26:25] mamumuhunan [2:26:26] dito [2:26:27] sa mga [2:26:27] generation [2:26:28] supply [2:26:29] na ito [2:26:29] kakailangan [2:26:30] na mayroon [2:26:34] ay mabawasan [2:26:35] yung [2:26:36] reliance [2:26:36] natin [2:26:37] sa [2:26:37] imported [2:26:37] fuel [2:26:38] so [2:26:38] kinakailangan [2:26:39] na magkaroon [2:26:40] tayo [2:26:41] ng mga [2:26:41] implementasyon [2:26:42] ng mga [2:26:42] pulisiya [2:26:43] at [2:26:43] regulasyon [2:26:44] na makahikayat [2:26:45] sa [2:26:45] pagtatayo [2:26:46] ng mga [2:26:46] kalagdagang [2:26:47] mga [2:26:47] renewable [2:26:47] plants [2:26:48] halimbawa [2:26:49] nang sa ganon [2:26:49] ay mabawasan [2:26:50] naman [2:26:50] yung ating [2:26:51] dependence [2:26:52] on [2:26:52] imported [2:26:53] fuel [2:26:53] at [2:26:54] kung [2:26:54] magtatayo [2:26:54] naman [2:26:55] ng [2:26:55] planta [2:26:55] itong [2:26:56] mga [2:26:56] privadong [2:26:57] sektor [2:26:57] na ito [2:26:57] sila [2:26:58] ay [2:26:58] umuutang [2:26:59] sila [2:26:59] ay [2:26:59] naglalagak [2:27:00] ng kanilang [2:27:01] kapital [2:27:01] at itong [2:27:02] kapital [2:27:03] na ito [2:27:03] kumpara [2:27:04] naman [2:27:04] sa ibang [2:27:04] mansa [2:27:05] medyo [2:27:05] may kamahalan [2:27:06] ang ating [2:27:06] cost of [2:27:07] capital [2:27:07] so [2:27:07] ito rin [2:27:08] ay napapasama [2:27:09] doon [2:27:09] sa ating [2:27:10] generation [2:27:10] charge [2:27:11] kasama [2:27:12] na dito [2:27:12] kung tayo [2:27:13] ay patuloy [2:27:13] nagre-rely [2:27:15] doon [2:27:15] sa mga [2:27:15] imported [2:27:16] fuel [2:27:16] na binibili [2:27:17] natin [2:27:18] ng [2:27:18] dolyar [2:27:18] so [2:27:19] sa tuwing [2:27:20] magkakaroon [2:27:20] ng [2:27:20] pagtataas [2:27:21] sa singil [2:27:22] ng [2:27:22] coal [2:27:22] sa singil [2:27:23] ng [2:27:23] nut [2:27:24] gas [2:27:24] at binibili [2:27:25] natin [2:27:25] lalong [2:27:27] tumataas [2:27:27] yung [2:27:28] gastusin [2:27:28] sa paglikha [2:27:29] ng [2:27:29] kuryenting [2:27:30] ito [2:27:30] so [2:27:30] pagkalahatan [2:27:31] kung gusto [2:27:32] natin [2:27:32] na pababaan [2:27:33] siguro [2:27:33] ang singil [2:27:34] ng [2:27:34] kuryente [2:27:35] ultimately [2:27:36] yun [2:27:36] ang ating [2:27:36] punteriyahin [2:27:38] yung [2:27:38] generation [2:27:39] at [2:27:40] kung titignan [2:27:41] pa natin [2:27:41] yung ibang [2:27:42] mga [2:27:42] maliliit [2:27:42] na [2:27:43] component [2:27:43] dyan [2:27:43] yung [2:27:44] mga [2:27:44] policy [2:27:44] tulad [2:27:45] nung [2:27:45] sa [2:27:45] universal [2:27:46] charge [2:27:46] palaki [2:27:47] na rin [2:27:47] po [2:27:47] ng [2:27:48] palaki [2:27:48] yung [2:27:49] universal [2:27:49] charge [2:27:49] for [2:27:50] missionary [2:27:50] electrification [2:27:51] ganun [2:27:51] din [2:27:52] po [2:27:52] meron pa [2:27:52] dyan [2:27:53] yung [2:27:53] ibang [2:27:54] pass-through [2:27:54] charges [2:27:55] na po [2:27:56] pwede [2:27:56] na [2:27:56] tingnan [2:27:57] natin [2:27:57] kung paano [2:27:58] ito [2:27:58] mas [2:27:58] mapapababa [2:27:59] nabuksan [2:28:02] ni [2:28:02] USEC [2:28:04] Rio [2:28:05] yung [2:28:06] retail [2:28:08] competition [2:28:09] meron [2:28:11] si [2:28:11] EFERA [2:28:12] yung [2:28:12] retail [2:28:13] competition [2:28:13] open [2:28:14] access [2:28:14] kailangan [2:28:15] all the way [2:28:16] to the [2:28:16] household [2:28:17] level [2:28:17] yan [2:28:17] but [2:28:20] ang [2:28:21] aspiration [2:28:23] natin [2:28:23] ay [2:28:24] lahat [2:28:25] ng [2:28:25] kabahayan [2:28:25] pwedeng [2:28:26] pumili [2:28:26] ng [2:28:26] generator [2:28:27] nila [2:28:27] para [2:28:28] talagang [2:28:28] laban [2:28:29] laban [2:28:29] yung [2:28:29] mga [2:28:29] generator [2:28:30] hindi [2:28:30] lang [2:28:30] aggregation [2:28:31] kundi [2:28:32] all the [2:28:32] way [2:28:32] to the [2:28:33] household [2:28:33] level [2:28:34] that's [2:28:34] the [2:28:34] dream [2:28:35] but [2:28:37] that [2:28:37] dream [2:28:37] is [2:28:37] not [2:28:38] unique [2:28:38] sa [2:28:39] Singapore [2:28:39] ginagawa [2:28:40] na yan [2:28:40] sa [2:28:41] Australia [2:28:41] ginagawa [2:28:42] na yan [2:28:43] so [2:28:43] kami [2:28:44] mga [2:28:45] consumers [2:28:45] we can [2:28:46] choose [2:28:46] our [2:28:46] generator [2:28:47] kung gusto [2:28:47] namin [2:28:47] RE [2:28:48] pwede [2:28:49] kaming [2:28:49] mag [2:28:49] full [2:28:49] RE [2:28:50] kung gusto [2:28:50] namin [2:28:50] blended [2:28:51] pwede [2:28:51] kaming [2:28:52] mag [2:28:52] blended [2:28:52] so [2:28:53] kailan [2:28:53] natin [2:28:55] magagawa [2:28:56] yan [2:28:56] kailan [2:28:56] natin [2:28:57] ma-reach [2:28:58] na [2:28:58] retail [2:28:59] competition [2:29:00] all the [2:29:01] way [2:29:01] to the [2:29:01] household [2:29:02] level [2:29:02] sa [2:29:03] ngayon [2:29:04] po [2:29:04] ay [2:29:04] nagkaroon [2:29:05] na naman [2:29:05] ng [2:29:05] katuparan [2:29:06] yung [2:29:06] pangarap [2:29:06] na yan [2:29:07] sa ilan [2:29:07] ilan [2:29:07] natin [2:29:08] na mga [2:29:08] household [2:29:08] dahil [2:29:09] sa programa [2:29:09] ng [2:29:10] retail [2:29:10] aggregation [2:29:10] program [2:29:11] na kung [2:29:11] saan [2:29:12] ng [2:29:12] ating [2:29:12] mga [2:29:13] even [2:29:14] household [2:29:14] mga [2:29:15] kabahayan [2:29:15] magpwede [2:29:16] silang [2:29:16] magpuklod [2:29:17] puklod [2:29:17] tulad [2:29:18] nung [2:29:18] isang [2:29:18] nangyari [2:29:18] sa isang [2:29:19] subdivision [2:29:20] exclusive [2:29:21] sa malapit [2:29:22] sa [2:29:22] Ortiga [2:29:23] sa opisina [2:29:24] namin [2:29:24] nagpuklod [2:29:25] puklod [2:29:25] sila [2:29:25] at sila [2:29:26] ay nakipag [2:29:27] negotiate [2:29:27] sa isang [2:29:28] retail [2:29:28] electricity [2:29:29] supplier [2:29:30] at [2:29:30] nagkaroon [2:29:30] sila [2:29:31] ng [2:29:31] sariling [2:29:32] kontrata [2:29:33] nila [2:29:33] for the [2:29:34] supply [2:29:34] at [2:29:34] nakikita [2:29:35] natin [2:29:35] dito [2:29:36] sa mga [2:29:36] nagpa [2:29:36] participate [2:29:37] sa ating [2:29:37] retail [2:29:38] market [2:29:38] maging [2:29:39] ito [2:29:39] ay [2:29:40] yung [2:29:40] individual [2:29:41] o kaya [2:29:42] ay [2:29:42] aggregate [2:29:43] ay [2:29:43] nagkakaroon [2:29:44] ng [2:29:44] pagbaba [2:29:45] ang [2:29:45] overall [2:29:46] ng [2:29:46] kanilang [2:29:46] retail [2:29:47] rate [2:29:48] dahil [2:29:48] yung [2:29:48] kanilang [2:29:49] generation [2:29:49] charge [2:29:50] ay [2:29:51] naitetaylor [2:29:52] doon sa [2:29:52] kanilang [2:29:53] pangangailangan [2:29:54] unlike [2:29:54] dito sa [2:29:55] mga [2:29:55] captive [2:29:55] market [2:29:56] tayong [2:29:56] lahat [2:29:57] na nakadepende [2:29:58] doon sa [2:29:58] contracting [2:29:59] na [2:29:59] mga [2:30:00] decisions [2:30:01] and [2:30:01] procurement [2:30:02] decisions [2:30:02] ng ating [2:30:03] utility [2:30:03] at [2:30:04] paminsan [2:30:05] ito [2:30:05] ay hindi [2:30:06] na [2:30:06] po-optimize [2:30:08] at talagang [2:30:08] na [2:30:09] hahanap [2:30:10] yung [2:30:10] least cost [2:30:10] pagdating [2:30:11] po sa [2:30:11] retail [2:30:12] electricity [2:30:12] suppliers [2:30:13] dahil [2:30:14] alam nila [2:30:14] ang kanilang [2:30:15] customer [2:30:15] ang load [2:30:16] nila [2:30:16] hahanap [2:30:17] sila [2:30:17] ngayon [2:30:17] supply [2:30:19] na matutuganan [2:30:21] yung [2:30:21] kanilang [2:30:22] load [2:30:22] o yung [2:30:23] customer [2:30:23] at [2:30:24] mas mababa [2:30:25] para sila [2:30:26] ay makipag-compete [2:30:27] doon pa sa [2:30:28] ibang mga [2:30:28] retail [2:30:29] electricity [2:30:29] suppliers [2:30:30] at [2:30:30] dito po [2:30:31] natin [2:30:31] narikita [2:30:32] yung [2:30:32] competition [2:30:32] at the [2:30:33] retail [2:30:33] level [2:30:34] naibaba [2:30:39] na po [2:30:39] natin [2:30:39] yung [2:30:40] threshold [2:30:40] to [2:30:40] 100 [2:30:41] kilowatt [2:30:41] so [2:30:41] kasama [2:30:42] na po [2:30:42] dito [2:30:43] kahit [2:30:43] yung [2:30:43] medium [2:30:44] na [2:30:46] mga [2:30:46] negosyo [2:30:47] medium [2:30:48] sized [2:30:48] businesses [2:30:49] at [2:30:50] sa green [2:30:51] energy [2:30:52] option [2:30:52] naman po [2:30:53] kung ikaw [2:30:53] ay [2:30:54] individual [2:30:54] at [2:30:54] meron kang [2:30:55] naisin [2:30:56] na [2:30:56] makipag-contrast [2:30:57] sa [2:30:58] renewable [2:30:58] lang [2:30:58] ito [2:30:59] ay [2:30:59] binaba [2:31:00] na nga [2:31:00] din [2:31:00] ng [2:31:01] department [2:31:01] of [2:31:01] energy [2:31:02] to [2:31:02] 50 [2:31:03] kilowatt [2:31:03] so [2:31:03] mayroon [2:31:05] din [2:31:05] of [2:31:05] course [2:31:05] na [2:31:06] mga [2:31:06] implementation [2:31:06] issues [2:31:07] ang lagi [2:31:08] nating [2:31:08] naririnig [2:31:08] na [2:31:09] issue [2:31:09] mula [2:31:09] sa [2:31:09] ating [2:31:10] mga [2:31:10] distribution [2:31:10] utilities [2:31:11] ay [2:31:11] yung [2:31:11] kanilang [2:31:12] stranded [2:31:12] contract [2:31:14] na [2:31:15] kung [2:31:15] sila [2:31:16] ay [2:31:16] mababawasan [2:31:17] ng [2:31:17] customer [2:31:17] yung [2:31:18] mga [2:31:18] nakontrata [2:31:19] naman [2:31:19] nila [2:31:19] under [2:31:20] power [2:31:21] supply [2:31:21] agreements [2:31:21] na [2:31:22] pamisan [2:31:22] ay [2:31:23] long term [2:31:23] hanggang [2:31:23] sampung [2:31:24] taon [2:31:24] maaaring [2:31:25] hindi [2:31:25] na nila [2:31:26] ito [2:31:26] magamit [2:31:26] at [2:31:27] ito [2:31:27] ay [2:31:27] matadagdag [2:31:28] sa gastos [2:31:29] na ipapasco [2:31:30] nila [2:31:30] sa kanilang [2:31:30] remaining [2:31:31] captive [2:31:31] customers [2:31:32] so [2:31:32] yan din [2:31:33] po [2:31:33] ang mga [2:31:33] issues [2:31:33] na pinag-iisipan [2:31:35] natin [2:31:35] kung paano [2:31:36] maikatarv [2:31:37] out ito [2:31:37] mailalagay [2:31:38] as a [2:31:39] standard [2:31:39] provision [2:31:40] ng [2:31:40] template [2:31:41] ng [2:31:41] mga [2:31:41] PSAs [2:31:42] na ikatarv [2:31:42] out [2:31:42] ito [2:31:43] ay [2:31:44] ma-free [2:31:45] up din [2:31:45] naman [2:31:45] yung [2:31:46] mga [2:31:46] distribution [2:31:46] utilities [2:31:47] natin [2:31:47] at [2:31:48] yung [2:31:48] kanilang [2:31:48] captive [2:31:48] customers [2:31:49] ay [2:31:49] hindi [2:31:49] kailangan [2:31:50] magbayad [2:31:50] dito [2:31:51] sa [2:31:51] mga [2:31:51] contracted [2:31:52] capacities [2:31:53] na hindi [2:31:53] naman [2:31:53] kailangan [2:31:54] kaya ba [2:31:57] in the next [2:31:57] two years [2:31:58] before this [2:31:59] administration [2:32:00] ends [2:32:01] chairman [2:32:03] Nino [2:32:05] yeah [2:32:05] as is po [2:32:05] natin [2:32:06] bago lang [2:32:07] po natin [2:32:07] ipilatupad [2:32:08] yung [2:32:08] customer [2:32:09] switch [2:32:09] para sa [2:32:09] 100 [2:32:10] kilowatt [2:32:10] noong [2:32:11] June [2:32:11] 26 [2:32:12] at [2:32:12] itignan [2:32:13] po [2:32:13] natin [2:32:13] yung [2:32:13] performance [2:32:14] ng [2:32:14] market [2:32:14] at [2:32:15] ang [2:32:15] readiness [2:32:16] ng [2:32:16] ating [2:32:16] mga [2:32:16] distribution [2:32:17] utilities [2:32:17] that [2:32:17] will [2:32:18] really [2:32:18] give [2:32:18] the [2:32:18] consumers [2:32:19] the [2:32:19] power [2:32:19] of [2:32:20] choice [2:32:20] lahat [2:32:21] ka [2:32:22] pwede [2:32:22] kang [2:32:22] pumili [2:32:23] kung [2:32:23] gusto [2:32:23] mo [2:32:23] full [2:32:24] solar [2:32:24] gusto [2:32:24] mo [2:32:24] geothermal [2:32:25] gusto [2:32:26] mo [2:32:26] blended [2:32:26] bahala [2:32:27] ka [2:32:27] na [2:32:27] tapos [2:32:28] laban [2:32:28] laban [2:32:28] yan [2:32:29] because [2:32:29] all [2:32:29] the [2:32:29] generators [2:32:30] now [2:32:30] or [2:32:30] yung [2:32:31] rest [2:32:31] ilalapit [2:32:33] yan [2:32:33] sa mga [2:32:33] consumers [2:32:34] pag [2:32:34] offer [2:32:34] sila [2:32:35] so [2:32:36] hopefully [2:32:36] in the [2:32:36] next [2:32:37] two [2:32:57] down [2:32:57] to [2:32:57] household [2:32:57] level [2:32:58] they [2:32:58] can [2:32:58] just [2:32:59] have [2:32:59] to [2:32:59] aggregate [2:33:00] but [2:33:00] nagiging [2:33:01] mas [2:33:01] known [2:33:04] na [2:33:04] that [2:33:04] they [2:33:04] actually [2:33:05] can [2:33:05] choose [2:33:05] their [2:33:06] source [2:33:06] of [2:33:06] supply [2:33:07] and [2:33:08] negotiate [2:33:09] for [2:33:09] lower [2:33:09] rates [2:33:10] to [2:33:11] care [2:33:12] tanong [2:33:13] pa rin [2:33:13] sa [2:33:14] DOE [2:33:14] hindi [2:33:16] po [2:33:16] ba [2:33:16] na [2:33:16] kapag [2:33:17] may [2:33:17] emergency [2:33:18] or [2:33:19] may [2:33:21] calamity [2:33:21] may [2:33:22] tulad [2:33:23] yun [2:33:23] state [2:33:23] of [2:33:24] energy [2:33:24] emergency [2:33:25] hindi [2:33:25] ba [2:33:26] automatic [2:33:26] na [2:33:27] hindi [2:33:27] puputunan [2:33:28] ng [2:33:28] kuryente [2:33:28] kung [2:33:29] hindi [2:33:29] makabayad [2:33:30] on [2:33:30] time [2:33:30] actually [2:33:33] madam [2:33:34] there's [2:33:35] no [2:33:35] policy [2:33:36] as of [2:33:36] now [2:33:37] but [2:33:37] we [2:33:37] will [2:33:37] look [2:33:38] into [2:33:38] that [2:33:38] what [2:33:39] we [2:33:39] did [2:33:39] during [2:33:40] the [2:33:40] emergency [2:33:40] in [2:33:41] order [2:33:41] to [2:33:41] regulate [2:33:42] the [2:33:42] cost [2:33:43] is [2:33:44] when [2:33:44] we [2:33:44] have [2:33:45] together [2:33:45] with [2:33:45] ERC [2:33:46] made [2:33:46] the [2:33:47] administered [2:33:47] pricing [2:33:48] effective [2:33:49] for [2:33:49] first [2:33:51] month [2:33:52] of [2:33:52] the [2:33:53] so [2:33:57] posibleng [2:33:58] gawin [2:33:58] na [2:33:59] default [2:34:01] yung [2:34:01] no [2:34:01] disconnection [2:34:02] muna [2:34:02] habang [2:34:03] may [2:34:03] calamity [2:34:04] or [2:34:04] emergency [2:34:04] pwedeng [2:34:05] kasama [2:34:06] ito [2:34:06] sa [2:34:06] pag-aaralan [2:34:07] nyo [2:34:07] yes [2:34:08] for the [2:34:10] record [2:34:10] kasi [2:34:10] Mr. [2:34:11] Chair [2:34:11] gaya [2:34:11] nang [2:34:11] napang [2:34:11] ko [2:34:12] kanina [2:34:12] naghahain [2:34:13] po ako [2:34:13] kahapon [2:34:14] lang [2:34:14] ng [2:34:14] Senate [2:34:14] Bill [2:34:15] 2361 [2:34:16] naglalayong [2:34:17] bigyan [2:34:18] ng [2:34:18] kapangyarihan [2:34:19] ang [2:34:19] gobyerno [2:34:19] na [2:34:20] magtakda [2:34:21] ng [2:34:21] presyo [2:34:21] ng [2:34:22] kuryente [2:34:22] kapag [2:34:23] may [2:34:23] state [2:34:24] of [2:34:24] emergency [2:34:24] or [2:34:25] calamity [2:34:25] ang [2:34:26] panukalang [2:34:27] ito [2:34:27] gagawing [2:34:28] automatic [2:34:28] ang [2:34:29] no [2:34:29] disconnection [2:34:30] policy [2:34:30] kapag [2:34:31] emergency [2:34:31] or [2:34:32] calamity [2:34:32] deferred [2:34:33] payment [2:34:34] scheme [2:34:34] at [2:34:35] saka [2:34:35] yung [2:34:36] sabi [2:34:37] ng [2:34:37] Meralco [2:34:37] pag [2:34:38] arala [2:34:38] nila [2:34:38] pagbabawal [2:34:40] sa [2:34:40] disconnection [2:34:40] habang [2:34:41] pinoprotesta [2:34:43] ang [2:34:43] diumanong [2:34:44] maling [2:34:44] bill [2:34:45] I have [2:34:46] a final [2:34:46] question [2:34:47] for [2:34:47] DOE [2:34:47] Mr. [2:34:48] Chair [2:34:48] So [2:34:50] sa [2:34:50] 25 [2:34:51] years [2:34:51] po [2:34:52] quarter [2:34:52] century [2:34:53] ng [2:34:53] epira [2:34:54] hindi [2:34:55] natupad [2:34:56] ang [2:34:56] pangako [2:34:56] nito [2:34:57] sa [2:34:58] pagpapababa [2:34:59] sa presyo [2:35:00] ng [2:35:00] kuryente [2:35:00] So [2:35:01] masasabi [2:35:02] niyo [2:35:02] po ba [2:35:03] na [2:35:04] naging [2:35:04] efektibo [2:35:05] ang [2:35:05] epira [2:35:06] dyan [2:35:07] sa [2:35:08] pangarap [2:35:09] na [2:35:09] pagpapababa [2:35:09] ng [2:35:10] presyo [2:35:10] ng [2:35:10] kuryente [2:35:10] sa [2:35:11] loob [2:35:11] ng [2:35:11] 25 [2:35:12] taon [2:35:12] ma'am [2:35:13] epira [2:35:14] has [2:35:14] institutionalized [2:35:16] several [2:35:17] improvements [2:35:20] in the [2:35:20] energy [2:35:20] sector [2:35:21] but [2:35:21] we [2:35:21] agreed [2:35:22] that [2:35:22] it [2:35:22] is [2:35:22] something [2:35:23] that [2:35:23] we [2:35:24] need [2:35:24] to [2:35:24] revisit [2:35:24] and [2:35:25] identify [2:35:26] areas [2:35:27] of [2:35:27] improvement [2:35:27] Salamat [2:35:31] po [2:35:31] Mr. [2:35:32] Chair [2:35:33] Thank [2:35:33] you [2:35:34] Senator [2:35:35] Reza [2:35:36] Before [2:35:38] we [2:35:38] proceed [2:35:39] we [2:35:40] really [2:35:40] have [2:35:41] a [2:35:41] mission [2:35:41] on [2:35:41] DOE [2:35:42] and [2:35:42] ERC [2:35:44] and [2:35:45] NAIA [2:35:46] whether [2:35:46] we [2:35:47] like [2:35:47] it [2:35:47] or [2:35:47] not [2:35:47] we [2:35:48] really [2:35:48] have [2:35:48] to [2:35:48] finish [2:35:49] this [2:35:49] and [2:35:50] we [2:35:50] really [2:35:50] have [2:35:50] to [2:35:50] work [2:35:51] on [2:35:51] based [2:35:52] on [2:35:52] the [2:35:52] policy [2:35:53] of [2:35:54] the [2:35:54] government [2:35:54] we [2:35:56] have [2:35:57] to [2:35:57] do [2:35:58] this [2:35:58] and [2:35:58] we [2:35:58] have [2:35:58] to [2:35:58] do [2:35:58] this [2:35:59] quickly [2:35:59] all [2:35:59] right [2:36:00] moving [2:36:01] on [2:36:02] Philippine [2:36:04] who's [2:36:04] next [2:36:05] Phil [2:36:06] Reca [2:36:06] are you [2:36:06] here [2:36:07] please [2:36:07] may [2:36:07] remind [2:36:08] our [2:36:08] resource [2:36:09] persons [2:36:09] to [2:36:09] please [2:36:10] limit [2:36:10] to [2:36:11] three [2:36:11] minutes [2:36:11] your [2:36:11] presentation [2:36:12] or [2:36:12] your [2:36:13] statements [2:36:13] for [2:36:14] we [2:36:14] can [2:36:14] accommodate [2:36:15] there's [2:36:16] 15 [2:36:17] different [2:36:18] organizations [2:36:19] to [2:36:20] our [2:36:21] resource [2:36:22] persons [2:36:22] today [2:36:23] to give [2:36:23] out [2:36:23] their [2:36:24] positions [2:36:26] statements [2:36:29] Phil Reca [2:36:30] go ahead [2:36:30] magandang [2:36:32] tanghali po [2:36:32] Mr. Chair [2:36:33] and to [2:36:34] our [2:36:34] Senate [2:36:34] President [2:36:35] our [2:36:35] Honorable [2:36:36] Risa [2:36:36] Ontiveros [2:36:37] kaisa po [2:36:39] ang [2:36:40] Philippine [2:36:40] Rural [2:36:41] Electric [2:36:41] Cooperative [2:36:42] or [2:36:42] Phil Reca [2:36:43] sa [2:36:43] direksyon [2:36:44] ng [2:36:44] pamalaan [2:36:45] at [2:36:46] bukas [2:36:46] ang [2:36:47] aming [2:36:47] hanay [2:36:47] na [2:36:48] aktibo [2:36:48] makilahok [2:36:49] sa [2:36:49] mga [2:36:49] talakayan [2:36:50] pagkilus [2:36:52] ukol [2:36:52] sa [2:36:52] pag-amyanda [2:36:52] ng [2:36:53] ipira [2:36:53] at [2:36:54] sa [2:36:54] mga [2:36:54] reforma [2:36:55] sa [2:36:55] ating [2:36:55] sektor [2:36:55] na [2:36:56] identifikasyon [2:36:56] Mahalagang [2:36:58] kilalanin [2:36:59] na ang [2:36:59] system [2:37:00] loss [2:37:00] ay isang [2:37:01] likas [2:37:02] na [2:37:02] tatotohan [2:37:02] ng [2:37:02] technical [2:37:03] na [2:37:04] itinapda [2:37:04] ng [2:37:04] agham [2:37:05] at [2:37:05] mga [2:37:06] batas [2:37:06] ng [2:37:07] physics [2:37:07] o [2:37:07] science [2:37:08] lalo [2:37:09] na [2:37:10] sa [2:37:10] malalawak [2:37:11] malalayo [2:37:12] at [2:37:12] kabundukang [2:37:13] sakop [2:37:13] ng mga [2:37:13] electric [2:37:14] cooperatives [2:37:15] pagaman [2:37:16] patuloy [2:37:17] na [2:37:18] nagpopunto [2:37:18] at [2:37:19] nagsisikap [2:37:19] ang mga [2:37:19] electric [2:37:20] cooperatives [2:37:21] na [2:37:21] maimitort [2:37:22] modernisa [2:37:23] ang mga [2:37:25] linya [2:37:25] at [2:37:26] sugpuin [2:37:26] ng [2:37:26] pagkinakaw [2:37:27] ng [2:37:27] kuryente [2:37:27] likas [2:37:29] na may [2:37:29] nawawalang [2:37:30] enerhiya [2:37:30] habang [2:37:31] dumatalo [2:37:32] ito [2:37:32] sa [2:37:32] mahabang [2:37:33] linya [2:37:33] mas [2:37:34] mahabang [2:37:35] linya [2:37:35] mas [2:37:36] mataas [2:37:37] na [2:37:37] system [2:37:37] loss [2:37:37] sa aming [2:37:39] pampanig [2:37:40] buo [2:37:41] ang [2:37:41] supportan [2:37:42] ng [2:37:42] pilweka [2:37:42] sa [2:37:45] pagtanggal [2:37:45] ng [2:37:46] system [2:37:47] loss [2:37:47] charges [2:37:48] at [2:37:49] iba [2:37:49] pang [2:37:50] ng [2:37:50] power [2:37:50] cost [2:37:51] sapagkat [2:37:52] hindi [2:37:52] dapat [2:37:52] patawan [2:37:53] ang [2:37:55] kuryente [2:37:56] hindi [2:37:56] naman [2:37:56] nagamit [2:37:57] ng [2:37:57] ati [2:37:57] mahamayan [2:37:58] kayon [2:37:59] paman [2:37:59] upang [2:38:00] maprotectahan [2:38:01] ang [2:38:01] operasyon [2:38:02] ng [2:38:02] non-stock [2:38:03] non-profit [2:38:03] electric [2:38:04] cooperatives [2:38:05] ang ganap [2:38:07] na [2:38:07] pagpapatigil [2:38:09] sa [2:38:09] pagbawi [2:38:10] o recovery [2:38:11] ng [2:38:11] system [2:38:11] loss [2:38:11] ay dapat [2:38:12] tapatan [2:38:13] ng [2:38:13] direktibang [2:38:14] mekanismo [2:38:15] o [2:38:18] isang [2:38:19] performance [2:38:20] driven [2:38:20] transition [2:38:21] model [2:38:21] o [2:38:22] isang [2:38:22] performance [2:38:23] based [2:38:23] standards [2:38:24] sa ilalim [2:38:25] ng [2:38:26] Energy [2:38:26] Regulatory [2:38:27] Commission [2:38:28] Kasabay [2:38:30] po nito [2:38:30] inaasahan [2:38:32] po namin [2:38:32] isang [2:38:33] formal [2:38:33] na [2:38:33] comprensibong [2:38:34] talakayan [2:38:34] sa usapin [2:38:36] ito [2:38:36] ganyan din [2:38:37] sa iba [2:38:37] pang [2:38:37] mahalagang [2:38:38] hakbangin [2:38:39] gaya [2:38:39] ng [2:38:39] pagpapababa [2:38:41] ng [2:38:41] generation [2:38:42] charges [2:38:43] pag-aayos [2:38:44] ng [2:38:45] great [2:38:45] congestion [2:38:46] cost [2:38:46] at [2:38:47] ang [2:38:48] pagpalakas [2:38:48] sa [2:38:49] National [2:38:49] Power [2:38:50] Corporation [2:38:50] upang [2:38:51] mapatakbo [2:38:52] ang mga [2:38:53] backup [2:38:53] power [2:38:53] capacity [2:38:54] sa Luzon [2:38:54] Visayas [2:38:55] at [2:38:56] Pindanao [2:38:56] nananatiling [2:38:58] buo [2:38:58] ang support [2:38:59] ng [2:38:59] Phil [2:38:59] Reka [2:38:59] na [2:39:01] mayapagtulungan [2:39:01] sa [2:39:01] gobyerno [2:39:02] mga [2:39:02] mababatas [2:39:03] at [2:39:04] iba [2:39:04] pang [2:39:04] kasapi [2:39:05] na [2:39:05] industriya [2:39:06] upang [2:39:06] makamit [2:39:07] ang [2:39:07] makatarong [2:39:07] ang [2:39:07] presyo [2:39:08] at [2:39:09] mahasabang [2:39:09] ang [2:39:10] mahasabang [2:39:10] servisyo [2:39:10] ng [2:39:11] kuryente [2:39:11] para [2:39:11] sa [2:39:11] bawat [2:39:12] patingyap [2:39:12] pamilyang [2:39:13] Pilipino [2:39:13] Pindanao [2:39:14] Pindanao [2:39:14] Pindanao [2:39:15] Pindanao [2:39:17] National [2:39:20] Association [2:39:20] of [2:39:21] General [2:39:21] Managers [2:39:21] of [2:39:21] Electric [2:39:22] Cooperatives [2:39:22] you [2:39:23] have [2:39:23] three [2:39:23] minutes [2:39:23] sir [2:39:24] thank [2:39:26] you [2:39:26] Mr [2:39:26] Chair [2:39:27] and [2:39:27] to [2:39:28] all [2:39:28] the [2:39:28] senators [2:39:29] present [2:39:30] thank [2:39:30] you [2:39:30] so [2:39:31] much [2:39:31] and [2:39:33] thank [2:39:33] you [2:39:33] for [2:39:33] the [2:39:33] opportunity [2:39:34] to [2:39:34] present [2:39:35] our [2:39:35] views [2:39:36] position [2:39:36] in [2:39:37] the [2:39:37] long [2:39:37] overdue [2:39:38] reform [2:39:39] of [2:39:40] the [2:39:40] electric [2:39:40] power [2:39:41] industry [2:39:41] reform [2:39:41] act [2:39:42] I [2:39:42] think [2:39:42] this [2:39:43] year [2:39:43] is [2:39:43] our [2:39:44] anniversary [2:39:45] to [2:39:46] the [2:39:46] we [2:39:48] support [2:39:48] the [2:39:49] objectives [2:39:49] of [2:39:50] this [2:39:50] committee [2:39:50] the [2:39:51] measures [2:39:52] that [2:39:53] we [2:39:53] are [2:39:53] tackling [2:39:53] now [2:39:54] can [2:39:55] be [2:39:55] and [2:39:55] will [2:39:55] be [2:39:55] of [2:39:56] significant [2:39:56] help [2:39:57] to [2:39:57] electric [2:39:58] consumers [2:39:58] and [2:39:59] electric [2:39:59] cooperatives [2:40:00] in the [2:40:01] electric [2:40:01] co-op [2:40:02] when we [2:40:02] say [2:40:02] electric [2:40:03] co-op [2:40:03] it [2:40:03] is [2:40:03] really [2:40:04] the [2:40:04] people [2:40:04] because [2:40:05] we [2:40:05] are [2:40:05] owner [2:40:06] and [2:40:06] members [2:40:07] of [2:40:07] the [2:40:07] co-op [2:40:07] that's [2:40:08] how [2:40:09] we [2:40:09] become [2:40:09] distinct [2:40:09] from [2:40:10] other [2:40:10] teams [2:40:10] so [2:40:11] every [2:40:11] time [2:40:12] na [2:40:12] may [2:40:12] ma [2:40:12] taas [2:40:13] na [2:40:13] tarifa [2:40:14] ng [2:40:14] kuryente [2:40:14] tao [2:40:15] po [2:40:15] yung [2:40:16] tinatamaan [2:40:17] kaya [2:40:17] una [2:40:18] ma-review [2:40:20] yung [2:40:21] value [2:40:23] added [2:40:23] tax [2:40:23] kasi [2:40:24] nang tinignan [2:40:25] namin [2:40:25] yung [2:40:25] Republic [2:40:25] Act [2:40:26] 10026 [2:40:27] at [2:40:28] Republic [2:40:28] Act [2:40:29] 7109 [2:40:30] yung [2:40:31] tubig [2:40:31] po [2:40:32] merong [2:40:32] consideration [2:40:33] when it [2:40:34] comes to [2:40:34] taxes [2:40:35] real [2:40:36] property [2:40:36] anything [2:40:37] yung [2:40:38] tubig [2:40:39] at [2:40:39] saka [2:40:39] yung [2:40:39] kuryente [2:40:40] are [2:40:40] intertwined [2:40:41] in [2:40:42] handling [2:40:42] our [2:40:43] development [2:40:43] kung [2:40:44] hindi [2:40:45] man [2:40:45] lang [2:40:45] totally [2:40:46] mawala [2:40:46] yung [2:40:47] tax [2:40:47] kahit [2:40:48] na [2:40:48] lang [2:40:48] residential [2:40:49] consumers [2:40:50] ang walang [2:40:51] tax [2:40:52] kasi [2:40:52] hindi [2:40:52] niya [2:40:53] ma-recover [2:40:53] yung [2:40:54] binabayad [2:40:55] niya [2:40:55] na [2:40:55] tax [2:40:55] after [2:40:55] all [2:40:56] yung [2:40:56] iba [2:40:56] na [2:40:56] nag-negosyo [2:40:57] meron silang [2:40:58] proper fund [2:40:59] to look [2:41:00] into [2:41:00] some [2:41:00] scheme [2:41:01] para [2:41:02] ayusin [2:41:02] yung [2:41:03] tax [2:41:03] after [2:41:03] all [2:41:04] you [2:41:04] cannot [2:41:04] evade [2:41:05] tax [2:41:05] when [2:41:05] you [2:41:05] are [2:41:05] doing [2:41:06] business [2:41:06] but [2:41:07] residential [2:41:07] consumers [2:41:08] are [2:41:09] not [2:41:09] doing [2:41:09] business [2:41:10] as [2:41:11] to [2:41:11] systems [2:41:11] laws [2:41:12] we'll [2:41:14] just [2:41:14] follow [2:41:15] but [2:41:16] in [2:41:17] the [2:41:17] engineering [2:41:17] side [2:41:18] we cannot [2:41:19] go [2:41:19] against [2:41:19] the [2:41:19] physics [2:41:20] so [2:41:21] doon [2:41:21] technical [2:41:22] losses [2:41:22] in [2:41:23] electric [2:41:23] cooperative [2:41:24] bakit [2:41:24] medyo [2:41:25] yung [2:41:25] cap [2:41:25] because [2:41:28] merong [2:41:29] situ [2:41:31] electrification [2:41:32] the longer [2:41:46] the line [2:41:47] the higher [2:41:48] the [2:41:49] another [2:41:49] thing [2:41:49] Mr. [2:41:50] Chair [2:41:50] yung [2:41:51] mga [2:41:51] regulatory [2:41:52] penalties [2:41:52] and [2:41:53] avoidable [2:41:53] system [2:41:54] cost [2:41:54] to [2:41:54] consumers [2:41:55] kung [2:41:55] pwede [2:41:55] wala [2:41:56] na yun [2:41:57] kasi [2:41:58] may mga [2:41:59] ano [2:41:59] kasi [2:42:00] exclusively [2:42:01] dapat [2:42:01] kung [2:42:02] sino [2:42:02] yung [2:42:03] entity [2:42:04] responsible [2:42:05] they will [2:42:06] be the [2:42:06] one [2:42:06] to [2:42:07] pay [2:42:07] for [2:42:07] that [2:42:07] doon [2:42:08] naman [2:42:08] sa [2:42:08] paguhuli [2:42:09] ng mga [2:42:09] magdanakaw [2:42:10] kung [2:42:10] pwede [2:42:10] yung [2:42:11] 1732 [2:42:12] baguhin [2:42:12] po [2:42:13] ma'am [2:42:13] kasi [2:42:14] doon [2:42:14] po [2:42:14] yung [2:42:14] officer [2:42:15] of the [2:42:15] law [2:42:15] is [2:42:16] just [2:42:16] a [2:42:16] witness [2:42:16] tapos [2:42:17] kami [2:42:18] yung [2:42:18] naghuhuli [2:42:18] hindi [2:42:18] naman po [2:42:19] kami [2:42:19] polis [2:42:20] wala [2:42:20] kaming [2:42:20] armas [2:42:21] pag [2:42:22] dating [2:42:22] doon [2:42:23] we [2:42:23] should [2:42:23] we will [2:42:23] be [2:42:23] coordinating [2:42:24] the [2:42:24] officer [2:42:24] of [2:42:25] the [2:42:25] law [2:42:25] kasi [2:42:25] sinabi [2:42:25] sa [2:42:25] IRR [2:42:26] the [2:42:27] officer [2:42:27] of [2:42:27] the [2:42:27] law [2:42:28] must [2:42:28] be [2:42:28] the [2:42:28] witness [2:42:29] and [2:42:29] the [2:42:29] apprehension [2:42:30] kaya [2:42:31] mahirap [2:42:31] panghuli [2:42:32] na kami [2:42:33] wala pong [2:42:33] armas [2:42:34] at [2:42:34] the [2:42:34] BNP [2:42:35] kaya [2:42:36] kailangan [2:42:36] din [2:42:36] ma-review [2:42:38] yung [2:42:38] republic [2:42:39] up [2:42:39] 7832 [2:42:40] another [2:42:41] thing [2:42:41] po ma'am [2:42:42] and [2:42:42] sors [2:42:42] yung [2:42:43] system [2:42:44] stores [2:42:44] kung [2:42:44] pwede [2:42:44] hindi [2:42:45] lang [2:42:45] po [2:42:45] doon [2:42:45] sa [2:42:45] distribution [2:42:46] kami [2:42:47] sa [2:42:48] Visayas [2:42:48] tinatamaan [2:42:49] ng [2:42:49] line [2:42:49] loss [2:42:50] position [2:42:50] cost [2:42:51] ganito [2:42:52] po [2:42:52] pag [2:42:53] may [2:42:53] PSA [2:42:54] ka [2:42:54] akala [2:42:55] namin [2:42:55] nag-aggregate [2:42:56] kami [2:42:56] nag-PSA [2:42:56] kami [2:42:57] yung [2:42:58] contract [2:42:58] is [2:42:58] 4 [2:42:59] pesos [2:42:59] 70 [2:42:59] centavos [2:43:00] pumapalakpak [2:43:01] na kami [2:43:01] kasi [2:43:01] moray [2:43:02] but [2:43:03] because [2:43:03] what we [2:43:04] have [2:43:05] contracted [2:43:05] is [2:43:05] outside [2:43:06] of [2:43:06] the [2:43:06] Visayas [2:43:07] even [2:43:07] though [2:43:08] meron [2:43:08] 700 [2:43:09] megawatt [2:43:10] you [2:43:10] thermal [2:43:11] in late [2:43:11] pero hindi [2:43:12] kami [2:43:12] nakakonsumo [2:43:12] doon [2:43:14] e nung [2:43:14] tinamaan [2:43:15] kami [2:43:15] ng [2:43:15] 5 [2:43:16] pesos [2:43:16] LCC [2:43:18] sabi [2:43:19] ng [2:43:19] consumers [2:43:20] sabi [2:43:20] nyo [2:43:20] 5 [2:43:21] lang [2:43:21] bakit [2:43:21] naging [2:43:22] cheese [2:43:22] hindi [2:43:23] namin [2:43:24] po [2:43:24] ma-explain [2:43:25] pero [2:43:25] in-explain [2:43:26] namin [2:43:26] yung [2:43:26] sinabi [2:43:27] ni [2:43:27] chairman [2:43:27] na [2:43:27] ganyan [2:43:28] but [2:43:28] sabi [2:43:29] naman [2:43:29] nila [2:43:29] hindi [2:43:30] namin [2:43:30] kasalanan [2:43:31] yun [2:43:31] we are [2:43:32] just [2:43:32] consumers [2:43:33] if [2:43:33] there [2:43:34] is [2:43:34] congestion [2:43:34] kung [2:43:35] sumakay [2:43:36] ka ba [2:43:36] ng [2:43:36] grub [2:43:37] sinabi [2:43:38] nun [2:43:38] 700 [2:43:39] pagkatapos [2:43:40] na [2:43:40] traffic [2:43:41] ka [2:43:41] sa [2:43:41] insa [2:43:41] sasabihan [2:43:42] ka [2:43:42] ba [2:43:42] ng [2:43:42] grub [2:43:42] bare [2:43:43] bayan [2:43:50] 1.5 [2:43:52] billion [2:43:52] for [2:43:53] january [2:43:54] to [2:43:55] june [2:43:56] yung [2:43:56] nabayad [2:43:57] ng [2:43:57] LCC [2:43:58] sa [2:43:58] region [2:43:59] 8 [2:43:59] kaya [2:44:00] nga [2:44:00] po [2:44:00] after all [2:44:01] the [2:44:02] president [2:44:02] is [2:44:02] from [2:44:02] region [2:44:03] 8 [2:44:03] kaya [2:44:04] ginaginagin [2:44:04] na siya [2:44:04] okasyo [2:44:05] ang [2:44:05] region [2:44:05] 8 [2:44:05] and [2:44:06] hopefully [2:44:06] that [2:44:07] can [2:44:07] be [2:44:07] reviewed [2:44:08] also [2:44:08] and [2:44:09] as [2:44:09] to [2:44:10] the [2:44:10] restructuring [2:44:10] and [2:44:11] operationalizing [2:44:13] the [2:44:14] ERC [2:44:14] we [2:44:14] supported [2:44:15] that [2:44:15] para [2:44:16] yung [2:44:16] mga [2:44:16] CAPEX [2:44:17] namin [2:44:17] mapadali [2:44:17] na [2:44:18] and [2:44:18] pwede [2:44:19] hindi [2:44:19] siya [2:44:19] centralized [2:44:20] dito [2:44:20] kasi [2:44:20] kung [2:44:20] sa [2:44:21] Mindanao [2:44:21] ka [2:44:21] pupunta [2:44:22] ka [2:44:22] pa [2:44:22] dito [2:44:22] natatagalan [2:44:23] po [2:44:23] kumwede [2:44:24] gaya [2:44:25] ng [2:44:25] may [2:44:26] cordobot [2:44:26] hills [2:44:26] parang [2:44:27] ganon [2:44:27] para [2:44:27] mapadali [2:44:28] so [2:44:28] that [2:44:28] yung [2:44:29] mga [2:44:29] efficiency [2:44:29] na [2:44:30] sinasabi [2:44:30] sa [2:44:30] electric [2:44:31] co [2:44:31] matutugunan [2:44:33] namin [2:44:33] and [2:44:38] same [2:44:39] price [2:44:39] brutality [2:44:39] yung [2:44:41] power [2:44:41] industry [2:44:41] is [2:44:41] one [2:44:42] may [2:44:42] apat [2:44:43] na [2:44:43] sectors [2:44:43] pero [2:44:44] dahil [2:44:45] one [2:44:45] siya [2:44:45] any [2:44:46] ownership [2:44:47] of [2:44:47] those [2:44:47] sectors [2:44:48] be [2:44:48] construed [2:44:48] that [2:44:49] that [2:44:49] is [2:44:49] already [2:44:49] cross [2:44:49] ownership [2:44:50] kung [2:44:51] nag [2:44:51] generation [2:44:51] ka [2:44:51] nag [2:44:52] distribute [2:44:52] cross [2:44:53] ownership [2:44:53] na yung [2:44:53] tingin [2:44:54] namin [2:44:54] doon [2:44:55] generation [2:44:55] ka [2:44:56] nag [2:44:56] retail [2:44:56] ka [2:44:56] rin [2:44:56] paano [2:44:58] makikumpit [2:44:58] yung [2:44:58] deus [2:44:59] yung [2:45:00] customer [2:45:01] choice [2:45:02] if [2:45:03] yung [2:45:03] generation [2:45:03] at [2:45:03] yung [2:45:04] rest [2:45:04] isa [2:45:05] lang [2:45:05] may [2:45:05] are [2:45:05] kami [2:45:06] wala [2:45:06] generation [2:45:07] magdi [2:45:07] distribute [2:45:08] lang [2:45:08] may [2:45:08] iwan [2:45:10] yung [2:45:10] deus [2:45:11] with [2:45:11] that [2:45:11] pag [2:45:11] naiwan [2:45:12] siya [2:45:12] yung [2:45:12] contract [2:45:13] niya [2:45:13] in [2:45:13] long [2:45:14] term [2:45:14] of [2:45:14] 20 [2:45:14] years [2:45:15] who [2:45:15] will [2:45:15] pay [2:45:16] the [2:45:16] standard [2:45:16] cost [2:45:16] may [2:45:17] freedom [2:45:18] of [2:45:18] choice [2:45:18] yung [2:45:19] mga [2:45:19] kayang [2:45:19] maka-afford [2:45:20] kasi [2:45:21] di ka [2:45:21] na-afford [2:45:22] the [2:45:22] money [2:45:22] yung [2:45:23] may [2:45:23] iwan [2:45:23] na [2:45:24] consumer [2:45:24] po [2:45:24] i-cost [2:45:25] quantified [2:45:26] din po [2:45:27] yun [2:45:27] dapat [2:45:27] dahil [2:45:28] i-increase [2:45:29] din yung [2:45:30] rates [2:45:30] ng [2:45:31] residential [2:45:31] consumers [2:45:32] compared [2:45:32] to [2:45:33] others [2:45:34] and [2:45:34] another [2:45:35] thing [2:45:35] Mr. [2:45:35] Chair [2:45:36] yung [2:45:36] granting [2:45:36] emergency [2:45:37] presidential [2:45:38] crisis [2:45:38] powers [2:45:39] na [2:45:40] mention [2:45:40] ni [2:45:40] Senator [2:45:41] Riza [2:45:41] kanina [2:45:41] in terms [2:45:42] of [2:45:43] force [2:45:43] major [2:45:43] kung [2:45:45] pwede [2:45:45] meron [2:45:46] yun [2:45:46] siya [2:45:46] kasi [2:45:46] kung [2:45:46] merong [2:45:47] bagyo [2:45:47] lalo [2:45:49] na po [2:45:49] yung [2:45:50] ECRF [2:45:51] usually [2:45:52] nakalagi [2:45:52] ngayon [2:45:52] 750 [2:45:53] million [2:45:54] ngayon [2:45:54] 200 [2:45:55] million [2:45:55] na lang [2:45:55] kasi [2:45:56] we [2:45:57] there [2:45:57] will [2:45:57] like [2:45:57] ito [2:45:57] sa [2:45:57] Philippines [2:45:58] 16 [2:45:59] iPhones [2:45:59] in a [2:45:59] year [2:46:00] so [2:46:00] yung [2:46:01] electric [2:46:01] co-op [2:46:01] nagbabayanihan [2:46:02] kami [2:46:02] pero [2:46:03] sinusubsidize [2:46:04] po [2:46:04] namin [2:46:04] yung [2:46:04] electric [2:46:05] co-op [2:46:05] doon [2:46:06] pag pumunta [2:46:06] kami [2:46:07] 1EC [2:46:08] will [2:46:08] cost us [2:46:09] 1 million [2:46:11] pupunta [2:46:11] lang [2:46:11] ng isang [2:46:12] trupa [2:46:12] cost [2:46:13] po yun [2:46:13] in our [2:46:14] part [2:46:14] example [2:46:15] lang [2:46:15] tinamaan [2:46:15] yung [2:46:16] bicol [2:46:16] pupunta [2:46:17] kami [2:46:17] doon [2:46:17] para [2:46:18] tulungan [2:46:19] magdadala [2:46:19] kami [2:46:19] ng [2:46:19] post [2:46:20] transformer [2:46:20] donation [2:46:21] na yun [2:46:22] pero [2:46:22] that is [2:46:22] a cost [2:46:23] in our [2:46:23] co-op [2:46:24] in task [2:46:25] force [2:46:25] kapatid [2:46:26] sa ECRF [2:46:26] natungunan [2:46:27] na yun [2:46:28] na goberno [2:46:28] na meron [2:46:28] siyang [2:46:29] subsidy [2:46:29] pero [2:46:30] kulang [2:46:30] 750 [2:46:31] kasi [2:46:32] sabi ng [2:46:33] typhoon [2:46:33] it's [2:46:34] more fun [2:46:34] in the [2:46:35] philippines [2:46:35] bumabalik [2:46:36] balik [2:46:36] siya [2:46:36] 16 [2:46:37] times [2:46:37] yan po [2:46:38] yung [2:46:39] ano [2:46:39] sa [2:46:39] amin [2:46:39] and [2:46:40] then [2:46:40] sana [2:46:40] makita [2:46:41] to [2:46:41] and [2:46:42] then [2:46:42] yung [2:46:42] sinabi [2:46:42] ni [2:46:42] senatore [2:46:44] sa [2:46:44] hontiveros [2:46:44] ka na [2:46:45] yung [2:46:45] protection [2:46:45] of [2:46:45] consumers [2:46:46] because [2:46:46] we [2:46:47] believe [2:46:47] in the [2:46:48] electric [2:46:48] co-op [2:46:48] kami [2:46:49] po [2:46:49] yung [2:46:50] consumer [2:46:51] ganun [2:46:52] po [2:46:52] ma'am [2:46:52] and [2:46:52] sir [2:46:53] in the [2:46:54] part [2:46:54] of [2:46:54] nagpek [2:46:57] thank you [2:46:57] and [2:46:58] good [2:46:58] high [2:46:58] note [2:46:59] thank you [2:47:00] sir [2:47:01] for bringing [2:47:02] that to [2:47:02] our [2:47:03] attention [2:47:03] take note [2:47:05] department [2:47:07] of energy [2:47:07] and [2:47:08] ERC [2:47:09] and [2:47:10] national [2:47:11] electrification [2:47:11] business [2:47:12] yun [2:47:12] nga po [2:47:12] yung sinasabi [2:47:13] natin [2:47:13] yun [2:47:14] kanina [2:47:15] ang dami [2:47:15] lang [2:47:15] problema [2:47:16] sa [2:47:16] bisayas [2:47:16] yun [2:47:17] ngayon [2:47:17] line [2:47:18] rental [2:47:18] na wala [2:47:19] ipapasa [2:47:20] dun sa [2:47:21] consumer [2:47:21] hindi [2:47:22] nga [2:47:22] kasalan [2:47:22] ng [2:47:22] consumer [2:47:23] wala [2:47:23] lang [2:47:23] pa [2:47:23] kailangan [2:47:23] kusumi [2:47:24] kusam [2:47:24] binili [2:47:24] ng [2:47:25] distributor [2:47:26] yung [2:47:27] kanyang [2:47:27] power [2:47:27] bakit [2:47:28] biglang [2:47:28] tataas [2:47:29] kasi [2:47:29] kumuha [2:47:29] kami [2:47:30] sa [2:47:30] ganitong [2:47:30] lugar [2:47:30] kasi [2:47:31] dapat [2:47:32] na [2:47:32] mag [2:47:32] incur [2:47:33] na [2:47:33] noon [2:47:33] yung [2:47:33] distributor [2:47:34] hindi [2:47:35] na [2:47:35] yung [2:47:36] consumer [2:47:37] kasi [2:47:37] yung [2:47:37] consumer [2:47:38] yun [2:47:38] lang [2:47:38] talagang [2:47:38] babayaran [2:47:39] niya [2:47:40] yung [2:47:40] ginagamit [2:47:40] niya [2:47:41] wala [2:47:41] na siyang [2:47:41] pakialam [2:47:42] diba [2:47:42] parang [2:47:43] sinabi [2:47:43] sir [2:47:43] na [2:47:44] yung [2:47:45] grab [2:47:46] yung [2:47:47] sinakya [2:47:47] mo [2:47:48] taxi [2:47:48] mas [2:47:49] mura [2:47:49] itong [2:47:49] binilihan [2:47:50] niya [2:47:50] ngayon [2:47:50] which is [2:47:57] which is [2:47:58] unfair [2:47:58] thank you [2:47:59] po [2:47:59] thank you [2:48:00] national [2:48:01] association [2:48:02] general [2:48:02] managers [2:48:03] of electric [2:48:03] cooperative [2:48:04] next [2:48:04] philippine [2:48:07] electric [2:48:07] plant [2:48:07] owner [2:48:08] association [2:48:08] you have [2:48:08] three minutes [2:48:09] sir [2:48:09] good afternoon [2:48:11] honorable [2:48:12] chair [2:48:12] and [2:48:13] members [2:48:14] of the [2:48:14] committee [2:48:15] on [2:48:16] energy [2:48:16] the power [2:48:20] represents [2:48:20] the small [2:48:22] private [2:48:22] electric [2:48:23] utility [2:48:23] now [2:48:25] we already [2:48:25] submitted [2:48:26] our [2:48:26] comments [2:48:27] to the [2:48:28] pending [2:48:29] bill [2:48:30] on [2:48:31] the [2:48:32] amendments [2:48:32] and [2:48:34] generally [2:48:34] we [2:48:35] support [2:48:35] the [2:48:36] bills [2:48:37] proposing [2:48:37] the [2:48:38] strengthening [2:48:39] of the [2:48:39] energy [2:48:41] regulatory [2:48:41] commission [2:48:42] let me [2:48:45] just [2:48:45] highlight [2:48:46] the [2:48:46] bill [2:48:47] on [2:48:47] the [2:48:48] proposal [2:48:49] to [2:48:50] impose [2:48:51] cross [2:48:52] ownership [2:48:52] prohibition [2:48:54] as it [2:48:55] is [2:48:55] the [2:48:55] provides [2:48:56] only [2:48:57] cross [2:48:58] ownership [2:48:59] restriction [2:49:00] where [2:49:00] a [2:49:01] distribution [2:49:02] utility [2:49:03] is [2:49:04] limited [2:49:04] to [2:49:05] pure [2:49:05] only [2:49:05] 50% [2:49:06] of [2:49:07] power [2:49:08] requirements [2:49:09] from [2:49:09] its [2:49:09] affiliate [2:49:10] generation [2:49:12] company [2:49:13] now [2:49:14] the [2:49:15] issue [2:49:16] is [2:49:17] the [2:49:17] high [2:49:17] cost [2:49:18] of [2:49:18] generation [2:49:20] and [2:49:21] the [2:49:22] high cost [2:49:23] of [2:49:23] generation [2:49:23] is [2:49:24] indicative [2:49:24] of [2:49:25] the [2:49:25] lack [2:49:26] of [2:49:26] investments [2:49:27] in [2:49:28] the [2:49:28] country [2:49:29] if [2:49:31] we [2:49:32] prohibit [2:49:34] cross [2:49:37] ownership [2:49:37] between [2:49:38] generation [2:49:39] and [2:49:39] distribution [2:49:40] we [2:49:41] would [2:49:42] be [2:49:42] disqualifying [2:49:43] a large [2:49:44] portion [2:49:44] of potential [2:49:45] investments [2:49:46] into [2:49:47] generation [2:49:48] which would [2:49:50] further [2:49:50] aggravate [2:49:51] the [2:49:51] supply [2:49:53] in the [2:49:55] market [2:49:56] so we [2:49:56] would [2:49:56] recommend [2:49:58] just to [2:49:59] retain [2:49:59] the [2:50:00] restriction [2:50:03] as [2:50:03] prescribed [2:50:04] in the [2:50:06] PPL [2:50:06] now [2:50:07] we have [2:50:09] not yet [2:50:10] submitted [2:50:10] comments [2:50:12] on the [2:50:12] proposed [2:50:13] bills [2:50:13] on [2:50:14] system [2:50:15] loss [2:50:15] but [2:50:15] I would [2:50:16] just like [2:50:17] to make [2:50:17] some [2:50:18] preliminary [2:50:18] comments [2:50:19] on [2:50:20] system [2:50:20] loss [2:50:21] we [2:50:21] agree [2:50:22] with the [2:50:22] observation [2:50:23] of the [2:50:24] chair [2:50:24] that [2:50:25] there [2:50:25] are [2:50:25] two [2:50:26] kinds [2:50:26] of [2:50:26] system [2:50:29] losses [2:50:29] technical [2:50:30] and [2:50:30] non-technical [2:50:31] system [2:50:32] losses [2:50:33] we [2:50:35] appreciate [2:50:35] that [2:50:36] there [2:50:36] may [2:50:36] be [2:50:37] some [2:50:37] recognition [2:50:37] for [2:50:38] allowing [2:50:39] technical [2:50:40] losses [2:50:40] because [2:50:41] this [2:50:41] is [2:50:41] inherent [2:50:42] in [2:50:43] the [2:50:43] business [2:50:44] of [2:50:44] distribution [2:50:45] of [2:50:46] electricity [2:50:47] or [2:50:48] the [2:50:48] non-technical [2:50:49] losses [2:50:49] this [2:50:51] is [2:50:52] the [2:50:52] rationale [2:50:52] for [2:50:53] setting [2:50:53] a [2:50:54] system [2:50:55] loss [2:50:56] cap [2:50:56] on [2:50:58] system [2:50:59] losses [2:50:59] in [2:51:00] the [2:51:00] republic [2:51:02] up [2:51:03] 78 [2:51:03] 34 [2:51:04] this [2:51:05] was [2:51:05] ultimately [2:51:06] set [2:51:06] at [2:51:07] 9.5 [2:51:08] percent [2:51:08] and [2:51:09] the [2:51:11] ERC [2:51:11] in [2:51:13] 2018 [2:51:13] brought [2:51:14] down [2:51:14] this [2:51:14] system [2:51:15] loss [2:51:15] cap [2:51:16] further [2:51:17] the [2:51:17] feeder [2:51:17] system [2:51:18] loss [2:51:18] cap [2:51:18] to [2:51:19] 5.5 [2:51:20] percent [2:51:21] there [2:51:25] was [2:51:25] an [2:51:25] observation [2:51:26] earlier [2:51:26] made [2:51:27] that [2:51:27] there [2:51:28] is [2:51:28] no [2:51:28] more [2:51:29] incentive [2:51:29] for [2:51:31] the [2:51:31] utility [2:51:31] to [2:51:32] apprehend [2:51:33] this [2:51:34] filterage [2:51:35] because [2:51:35] for as [2:51:37] long as [2:51:38] they are [2:51:38] within [2:51:38] this [2:51:39] system [2:51:40] loss [2:51:40] cap [2:51:40] they are [2:51:41] able [2:51:41] to [2:51:42] recover [2:51:42] all [2:51:44] system [2:51:44] loss [2:51:44] within [2:51:45] the [2:51:45] cap [2:51:45] now [2:51:46] let me [2:51:47] just [2:51:47] correct [2:51:48] that [2:51:49] observation [2:51:50] because [2:51:50] there [2:51:51] is [2:51:51] an [2:51:52] incentive [2:51:52] for [2:51:53] a [2:51:53] utility [2:51:53] to [2:51:54] apprehend [2:51:56] filters [2:51:57] of [2:51:58] electricity [2:51:58] even [2:51:59] if [2:52:00] they [2:52:00] are [2:52:00] not [2:52:01] even [2:52:01] if [2:52:01] their [2:52:02] losses [2:52:03] are [2:52:03] within [2:52:03] the [2:52:03] cap [2:52:04] this [2:52:05] is [2:52:05] because [2:52:05] system [2:52:07] loss [2:52:07] refers [2:52:08] only [2:52:08] to [2:52:08] generation [2:52:09] cost [2:52:10] and [2:52:12] that [2:52:13] is [2:52:13] being [2:52:14] paid [2:52:14] to [2:52:14] the [2:52:15] suppliers [2:52:15] aside [2:52:17] from [2:52:17] the [2:52:17] generation [2:52:18] cost [2:52:18] distribution [2:52:19] utilities [2:52:20] also [2:52:21] lose [2:52:21] out [2:52:22] on [2:52:22] distribution [2:52:23] revenues [2:52:25] so [2:52:25] there [2:52:26] is [2:52:26] that [2:52:26] distribution [2:52:27] revenue [2:52:28] losses [2:52:29] this [2:52:30] is [2:52:31] the [2:52:31] revenue [2:52:31] that [2:52:32] goes [2:52:32] to [2:52:32] the [2:52:33] utility [2:52:33] in [2:52:34] system [2:52:34] loss [2:52:35] they [2:52:35] are [2:52:35] not [2:52:35] able [2:52:36] to [2:52:36] collect [2:52:36] that [2:52:37] distribution [2:52:38] charge [2:52:38] because [2:52:39] it [2:52:39] is [2:52:40] lost [2:52:41] in [2:52:42] the [2:52:42] system [2:52:43] that [2:52:44] is [2:52:44] why [2:52:44] there [2:52:45] is [2:52:45] that [2:52:45] incentive [2:52:46] for [2:52:46] a [2:52:47] utility [2:52:47] to [2:52:48] apprehend [2:52:49] to [2:52:49] the [2:52:49] extent [2:52:50] possible [2:52:50] all [2:52:51] filters [2:52:51] of [2:52:52] electricity [2:52:53] so [2:52:54] that [2:52:54] that [2:52:55] system [2:52:55] loss [2:52:56] the [2:52:58] equivalent [2:53:00] consumption [2:53:01] of [2:53:01] that [2:53:01] system [2:53:02] loss [2:53:02] can [2:53:03] also [2:53:03] be [2:53:03] converted [2:53:04] into [2:53:05] a [2:53:05] distribution [2:53:06] sales [2:53:08] so [2:53:09] they [2:53:09] would [2:53:10] derive [2:53:10] revenue [2:53:11] from [2:53:12] it [2:53:12] in [2:53:13] the [2:53:13] same [2:53:13] token [2:53:14] for [2:53:14] technical [2:53:14] losses [2:53:16] there [2:53:17] is [2:53:17] still [2:53:17] that [2:53:18] incentive [2:53:19] for [2:53:19] utilities [2:53:20] to [2:53:21] bring [2:53:22] down [2:53:23] further [2:53:23] the [2:53:23] system [2:53:24] loss [2:53:25] because [2:53:26] if [2:53:27] they [2:53:27] just [2:53:28] maintain [2:53:29] their [2:53:29] system [2:53:30] loss [2:53:30] within [2:53:30] the [2:53:31] hub [2:53:31] they [2:53:33] also [2:53:33] lose [2:53:33] distribution [2:53:34] revenues [2:53:35] that [2:53:38] could [2:53:38] be [2:53:38] a [2:53:39] potential [2:53:40] revenue [2:53:40] for [2:53:41] them [2:53:41] if [2:53:41] they [2:53:42] lower [2:53:42] further [2:53:42] their [2:53:43] system [2:53:44] loss [2:53:44] so [2:53:44] that's [2:53:45] why [2:53:45] they [2:53:45] invest [2:53:46] in [2:53:46] capital [2:53:47] expenditure [2:53:48] projects [2:53:48] in [2:53:49] order [2:53:49] that [2:53:50] their [2:53:50] distribution [2:53:51] system [2:53:52] would [2:53:52] become [2:53:53] more [2:53:54] efficient [2:53:54] to [2:53:56] reduce [2:53:56] system [2:53:57] loss [2:53:57] and [2:53:58] that [2:53:58] will [2:53:58] result [2:53:58] into [2:53:59] a [2:53:59] reduction [2:54:00] of [2:54:00] system [2:54:01] loss [2:54:01] which [2:54:02] will [2:54:02] be [2:54:02] converted [2:54:03] into [2:54:04] distribution [2:54:05] revenue [2:54:07] so [2:54:08] with that [2:54:09] in mind [2:54:10] the [2:54:11] subject [2:54:11] of [2:54:12] system [2:54:12] loss [2:54:13] is [2:54:13] very [2:54:13] technical [2:54:14] and [2:54:15] there [2:54:15] are [2:54:16] many [2:54:16] matters [2:54:17] to be [2:54:17] considered [2:54:18] in [2:54:20] addressing [2:54:20] the [2:54:21] problem [2:54:21] of [2:54:21] system [2:54:22] loss [2:54:22] so [2:54:23] we [2:54:24] would [2:54:24] recommend [2:54:25] from [2:54:25] PEPOA [2:54:26] that [2:54:26] we [2:54:28] allow [2:54:29] the [2:54:29] regulator [2:54:31] the [2:54:33] opportunity [2:54:33] to [2:54:34] address [2:54:34] how [2:54:36] best [2:54:36] to [2:54:37] solve [2:54:39] this [2:54:39] problem [2:54:40] of [2:54:40] system [2:54:40] loss [2:54:41] because [2:54:42] under [2:54:43] the [2:54:43] they [2:54:43] have [2:54:44] been [2:54:44] empowered [2:54:44] to [2:54:45] issue [2:54:46] rules [2:54:46] and [2:54:46] regulation [2:54:47] to [2:54:48] address [2:54:49] these [2:54:49] fast [2:54:50] through [2:54:50] charges [2:54:51] among [2:54:51] other [2:54:51] things [2:54:52] thank [2:54:52] you [2:54:53] thank [2:54:54] you [2:54:54] attorney [2:54:54] ronald [2:54:55] for [2:54:55] campo [2:54:56] go [2:54:56] ahead [2:54:56] Paul [2:54:56] just [2:54:57] a quick [2:54:57] rejoinder [2:54:59] there [2:54:59] lang [2:54:59] kay [2:54:59] attorney [2:55:00] ocampo [2:55:02] we have [2:55:04] a different [2:55:04] view [2:55:05] attorney [2:55:05] ocampo [2:55:06] on [2:55:06] the [2:55:06] matter [2:55:07] of [2:55:07] cross [2:55:09] ownership [2:55:09] we [2:55:10] have [2:55:10] with all [2:55:11] due [2:55:11] respect [2:55:11] i have [2:55:12] a [2:55:12] different [2:55:13] view [2:55:13] it [2:55:16] might [2:55:16] discourage [2:55:17] investments [2:55:18] in [2:55:18] generating [2:55:19] companies [2:55:20] but [2:55:21] actually [2:55:21] the [2:55:21] reason [2:55:22] why [2:55:22] i [2:55:22] filed [2:55:22] this [2:55:23] bill [2:55:23] is [2:55:23] because [2:55:23] precisely [2:55:25] it's [2:55:25] discouraging [2:55:26] investments [2:55:27] in [2:55:28] generation [2:55:28] in the [2:55:30] generation [2:55:30] sector [2:55:31] i [2:55:32] often [2:55:32] hear [2:55:33] meralco [2:55:36] is the [2:55:36] biggest [2:55:37] utility [2:55:38] in the [2:55:38] country [2:55:39] i [2:55:39] if you [2:55:41] don't [2:55:42] know [2:55:43] meralco [2:55:43] if you [2:55:44] are not [2:55:45] an investor [2:55:46] meralco [2:55:47] it's hard [2:55:48] to [2:55:48] lose [2:55:48] the [2:55:49] contract [2:55:49] so [2:55:50] this [2:55:53] type [2:55:54] of [2:55:54] comments [2:55:55] i [2:55:55] hear [2:55:55] throughout [2:55:56] that's [2:55:57] why [2:55:57] there are [2:55:58] cases [2:55:59] where [2:55:59] meralco [2:56:00] invested [2:56:00] in [2:56:00] that [2:56:00] generating [2:56:01] company [2:56:02] marami [2:56:03] cases [2:56:03] na [2:56:03] ganyan [2:56:04] so [2:56:05] the [2:56:06] point [2:56:06] why [2:56:07] i [2:56:07] filed [2:56:08] decouple [2:56:10] or [2:56:10] to [2:56:11] prevent [2:56:11] yung [2:56:11] cross [2:56:12] ownership [2:56:12] between [2:56:13] utilities [2:56:14] and [2:56:14] gen [2:56:14] cross [2:56:14] is [2:56:15] really [2:56:15] to [2:56:15] encourage [2:56:15] true [2:56:16] competition [2:56:16] meaning [2:56:17] the [2:56:20] distribution [2:56:21] does not [2:56:22] have any [2:56:22] stake [2:56:23] in the [2:56:23] generation [2:56:24] and [2:56:25] therefore [2:56:25] the [2:56:25] generation [2:56:26] company [2:56:26] will [2:56:27] have to [2:56:27] compete [2:56:28] on the [2:56:30] basis [2:56:30] of [2:56:30] price [2:56:31] and [2:56:31] service [2:56:31] kasi [2:56:32] wala [2:56:32] siyang [2:56:32] equity [2:56:33] stake [2:56:33] in [2:56:34] the [2:56:34] distribution [2:56:35] company [2:56:36] so [2:56:36] that's [2:56:37] the [2:56:37] point [2:56:37] kaya [2:56:38] ko [2:56:38] finel [2:56:38] to [2:56:39] because [2:56:39] to [2:56:40] encourage [2:56:40] more [2:56:40] competition [2:56:41] to [2:56:42] also [2:56:42] avoid [2:56:43] temptation [2:56:43] kasi [2:56:44] kung [2:56:44] ikaw [2:56:45] ang [2:56:45] temptation [2:56:47] in both [2:56:47] ways [2:56:47] kung [2:56:48] ikaw [2:56:48] si [2:56:48] distribution [2:56:49] ikaw [2:56:50] rin [2:56:50] may [2:56:50] ari [2:56:50] ng [2:56:51] generation [2:56:51] may [2:56:52] temptation [2:56:52] na ayusin [2:56:53] mo yung [2:56:53] POR [2:56:54] in terms [2:56:54] of [2:56:54] reference [2:56:55] na sinabi [2:56:55] ni chairman [2:56:56] actually [2:56:56] in the [2:56:57] first [2:56:57] series [2:56:57] na [2:56:58] sometimes [2:56:58] naglalagay [2:56:59] ng mga [2:57:00] utilities [2:57:01] do [2:57:02] maglalagay [2:57:03] ng [2:57:03] konting [2:57:04] technicalities [2:57:07] do [2:57:07] dapat [2:57:07] yung [2:57:08] planta [2:57:08] mo [2:57:08] mas [2:57:09] bago [2:57:09] ng [2:57:09] ganito [2:57:10] dapat [2:57:11] yung [2:57:11] fuel [2:57:12] mo [2:57:12] galing [2:57:12] sa [2:57:13] ganito [2:57:13] e [2:57:14] kaagad [2:57:15] yung [2:57:16] terms [2:57:16] of [2:57:16] reference [2:57:17] will [2:57:17] now [2:57:17] be [2:57:18] customized [2:57:18] to a [2:57:19] certain [2:57:19] generating [2:57:21] company [2:57:21] na meron [2:57:22] rin siyang [2:57:22] equity [2:57:22] stake [2:57:23] doon [2:57:23] so [2:57:24] to [2:57:24] remove [2:57:25] that [2:57:26] temptation [2:57:26] in my [2:57:28] view [2:57:28] mas magandang [2:57:29] walang [2:57:31] cross [2:57:31] ownership [2:57:32] between [2:57:32] generation 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sweetheart [2:58:12] deal [2:58:13] now [2:58:14] the [2:58:14] long [2:58:15] term [2:58:15] solution [2:58:16] it's [2:58:20] retail [2:58:21] competition [2:58:22] and [2:58:23] open [2:58:23] access [2:58:24] kasi [2:58:24] kung [2:58:25] above [2:58:25] market [2:58:26] yung [2:58:26] generation [2:58:26] cost [2:58:27] utility [2:58:28] because [2:58:29] of [2:58:30] that [2:58:30] sweetheart [2:58:31] deal [2:58:32] with [2:58:32] an [2:58:32] affiliate [2:58:32] contract [2:58:33] the [2:58:34] consumer [2:58:35] can [2:58:36] switch [2:58:37] to [2:58:37] another [2:58:37] supplier [2:58:38] na [2:58:39] yung [2:58:40] negotiated [2:58:41] supply [2:58:42] contract [2:58:42] na [2:58:43] yung [2:58:43] would [2:58:44] be [2:58:45] market [2:58:46] based [2:58:47] yung [2:58:48] price [2:58:48] yung [2:58:49] utility [2:58:53] naman [2:58:54] there is [2:58:54] that [2:58:54] risk [2:58:55] of [2:58:55] incurring [2:58:56] kasi [2:58:57] nga [2:58:57] because [2:58:57] of [2:58:57] free [2:58:57] time [2:58:57] competition [2:58:58] they have [2:58:59] the [2:58:59] risk [2:58:59] of [2:59:00] incurring [2:59:00] stranded [2:59:01] contract [2:59:02] cost [2:59:02] under [2:59:03] the [2:59:04] IPRA [2:59:04] what [2:59:04] is [2:59:05] recoverable [2:59:06] as [2:59:06] stranded [2:59:06] contract [2:59:07] cost [2:59:07] are [2:59:07] only [2:59:08] contracts [2:59:08] that [2:59:09] were [2:59:09] entered [2:59:09] to [2:59:10] prior [2:59:11] to [2:59:11] IPRA [2:59:12] so [2:59:13] any [2:59:14] contracts [2:59:14] that [2:59:15] were [2:59:15] entered [2:59:15] to [2:59:16] during [2:59:17] IPRA [2:59:17] and [2:59:18] we're [2:59:19] stranded [2:59:19] are [2:59:20] not [2:59:20] recoverable [2:59:21] from [2:59:21] the [2:59:21] consumers [2:59:22] so [2:59:23] yun [2:59:23] lang [2:59:23] yun [2:59:24] present [2:59:24] with [2:59:25] us [2:59:25] all [2:59:25] right [2:59:25] well [2:59:26] let me [2:59:26] just [2:59:26] add [2:59:27] to 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please [3:00:13] limit [3:00:13] you [3:00:13] we still [3:00:14] have [3:00:15] a lot [3:00:15] of [3:00:15] resource [3:00:16] persons [3:00:16] there [3:00:16] philippine [3:00:17] independent [3:00:17] power [3:00:18] producer [3:00:18] association [3:00:19] good afternoon [3:00:21] mr [3:00:21] chair [3:00:22] members [3:00:22] of the [3:00:23] senate [3:00:23] committee [3:00:23] on [3:00:24] energy [3:00:24] as well [3:00:25] as [3:00:25] to the rest [3:00:26] of [3:00:26] participants [3:00:26] of today's [3:00:27] hearing [3:00:28] this is [3:00:29] just to [3:00:29] provide [3:00:30] mr [3:00:30] chair [3:00:31] pipa's [3:00:31] general [3:00:32] comment [3:00:32] but we [3:00:33] will [3:00:33] submit [3:00:33] a formal [3:00:34] position [3:00:34] on [3:00:35] specific [3:00:35] provisions [3:00:36] of the [3:00:36] proposed [3:00:37] bills [3:00:37] pipa [3:00:38] supports [3:00:39] a careful [3:00:39] review [3:00:40] of the [3:00:40] epira [3:00:40] especially [3:00:41] as it [3:00:41] has been [3:00:42] more than [3:00:42] two decades [3:00:43] since [3:00:44] its [3:00:44] implementation [3:00:45] with [3:00:46] respect [3:00:46] to [3:00:46] bills [3:00:47] with [3:00:47] provisions [3:00:48] on [3:00:48] lifeline [3:00:48] rates [3:00:49] pipa [3:00:50] supports [3:00:50] reforms [3:00:51] that [3:00:51] assist [3:00:52] vulnerable [3:00:53] customers [3:00:53] yet [3:00:54] respectfully [3:00:55] submits [3:00:55] that [3:00:56] social [3:00:56] protection [3:00:57] should [3:00:57] be [3:00:57] funded [3:00:58] transparently [3:00:59] and [3:00:59] sustainably [3:01:00] any [3:01:01] subsidy [3:01:02] granted [3:01:02] must also [3:01:03] be [3:01:03] accompanied [3:01:04] by [3:01:04] reliable [3:01:05] beneficiary [3:01:05] evaluation [3:01:06] validation [3:01:07] clear [3:01:08] eligibility [3:01:08] rules [3:01:09] adequately [3:01:10] funded [3:01:10] annual [3:01:11] appropriation [3:01:12] and a [3:01:12] prompt [3:01:12] reimbursement [3:01:14] and [3:01:14] reconciliation [3:01:15] mechanism [3:01:15] as for [3:01:17] amendments [3:01:17] on [3:01:18] erc [3:01:18] strengthening [3:01:19] pipa [3:01:20] supports [3:01:20] measures [3:01:21] that [3:01:21] strengthen [3:01:22] the [3:01:22] erc's [3:01:23] institutional [3:01:23] independence [3:01:24] technical [3:01:25] capability [3:01:26] accountability [3:01:26] and [3:01:27] capacity [3:01:28] to resolve [3:01:29] cases [3:01:29] within [3:01:29] predictable [3:01:30] timelines [3:01:30] specific [3:01:32] amendments [3:01:32] should [3:01:32] nevertheless [3:01:33] preserve [3:01:34] due [3:01:34] process [3:01:34] regulatory [3:01:35] consistency [3:01:36] and [3:01:36] proportionality [3:01:37] of penalties [3:01:38] because [3:01:39] epira [3:01:39] governs [3:01:40] an [3:01:40] interconnected [3:01:41] electricity [3:01:41] market [3:01:42] we [3:01:43] emphasize [3:01:43] that [3:01:44] major [3:01:44] amendments [3:01:44] should [3:01:45] be [3:01:45] assessed [3:01:45] and [3:01:46] supported [3:01:46] by [3:01:46] regulatory [3:01:47] competition [3:01:48] fiscal [3:01:49] and [3:01:49] system [3:01:50] impact [3:01:51] studies [3:01:51] while [3:01:52] pipa [3:01:53] supports [3:01:53] amendments [3:01:53] which [3:01:54] strengthen [3:01:54] the [3:01:55] erc [3:01:55] prevent [3:01:56] anti-competitive [3:01:57] conduct [3:01:57] and [3:01:58] improve [3:01:58] reliability [3:02:00] we [3:02:01] nonetheless [3:02:02] submit [3:02:02] that [3:02:02] any [3:02:03] measure [3:02:03] imposed [3:02:04] should [3:02:04] be [3:02:04] carefully [3:02:05] calibrated [3:02:06] so [3:02:06] that [3:02:06] they [3:02:06] do [3:02:07] not [3:02:07] unintentionally [3:02:08] impair [3:02:08] existing [3:02:09] contracts [3:02:10] create [3:02:11] duplicative [3:02:11] regulation [3:02:12] provide [3:02:13] for [3:02:13] retroactive [3:02:14] changes [3:02:14] to [3:02:15] approve [3:02:15] cost [3:02:16] recovery [3:02:16] mechanisms [3:02:17] or [3:02:17] discourage [3:02:18] the [3:02:18] generation [3:02:19] and [3:02:19] infrastructure [3:02:20] investments [3:02:21] needed [3:02:21] by the [3:02:22] country [3:02:22] that [3:02:23] said [3:02:23] IPA [3:02:24] remains [3:02:24] committed [3:02:24] to [3:02:25] engagement [3:02:25] and in [3:02:27] providing [3:02:27] the [3:02:28] committee [3:02:28] with [3:02:28] operational [3:02:29] and [3:02:29] technical [3:02:30] information [3:02:30] necessary [3:02:31] to develop [3:02:32] effective [3:02:33] and [3:02:33] implementable [3:02:34] legislation [3:02:35] thank you [3:02:36] thank you [3:02:37] attorney [3:02:37] margaret [3:02:38] developers [3:02:46] of [3:02:46] renewable [3:02:46] energy [3:02:47] for [3:02:47] advancement [3:02:48] retail [3:02:54] electric [3:02:54] suppliers [3:02:55] of the [3:02:55] Philippines [3:02:56] we have [3:02:57] three [3:02:57] minutes [3:02:58] sir [3:02:58] on behalf [3:03:04] of [3:03:04] Teresa [3:03:05] we [3:03:07] would like [3:03:07] to [3:03:07] manifest [3:03:07] we [3:03:08] support [3:03:08] the [3:03:09] policy [3:03:10] direction [3:03:11] to amend [3:03:11] portions [3:03:12] of [3:03:12] the [3:03:12] IPRA [3:03:12] and [3:03:13] we [3:03:14] would [3:03:14] like [3:03:14] to [3:03:14] further [3:03:15] align [3:03:15] with [3:03:15] how [3:03:16] the [3:03:16] PRC [3:03:17] would [3:03:17] like [3:03:17] to [3:03:18] undertake [3:03:18] reforms [3:03:19] needed [3:03:20] as [3:03:20] we [3:03:21] view [3:03:21] the [3:03:21] ERC [3:03:22] as [3:03:22] the [3:03:22] competent [3:03:23] entity [3:03:23] to [3:03:24] determine [3:03:25] how [3:03:25] they [3:03:25] would [3:03:25] like [3:03:26] to [3:03:26] impact [3:03:27] on [3:03:27] their [3:03:28] service [3:03:28] so [3:03:29] outside [3:03:30] of [3:03:30] that [3:03:30] we [3:03:31] will [3:03:31] provide [3:03:31] a [3:03:31] detailed [3:03:32] paper [3:03:33] for [3:03:33] consideration [3:03:34] of [3:03:34] the 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tax [3:04:17] applications [3:04:17] on [3:04:18] the [3:04:18] retail [3:04:18] sector [3:04:19] transactions [3:04:20] and [3:04:21] further [3:04:21] improve [3:04:22] on [3:04:22] the [3:04:22] process [3:04:22] thank [3:04:26] you [3:04:26] very [3:04:26] much [3:04:27] sir [3:04:28] moving [3:04:29] on [3:04:29] National [3:04:30] Geothermal [3:04:31] Association [3:04:31] the [3:04:31] Philippines [3:04:32] I'm [3:04:35] sorry [3:04:35] Phil [3:04:36] Hydro [3:04:37] Association [3:04:37] Mr. [3:04:41] Chair [3:04:42] and [3:04:42] to [3:04:42] the [3:04:43] esteemed [3:04:43] senators [3:04:44] in [3:04:44] this [3:04:44] committee [3:04:45] Phil [3:04:46] Hydro [3:04:46] is [3:04:47] an [3:04:47] organization [3:04:47] of [3:04:48] hydropower [3:04:48] developers [3:04:49] manufacturers [3:04:50] and [3:04:50] service [3:04:51] providers [3:04:51] in [3:04:52] the [3:04:52] hydropower [3:04:53] industry [3:04:53] which [3:04:54] primarily [3:04:54] is [3:04:55] involved [3:04:55] in [3:04:56] the [3:04:56] generation [3:04:57] sector [3:04:57] on [3:04:58] Senate [3:04:59] bills [3:04:59] number [3:05:00] 63 [3:05:00] 346 [3:05:01] 367 [3:05:02] 1091 [3:05:03] 1164 [3:05:04] 1477 [3:05:05] 1950 [3:05:07] 2109 [3:05:08] and [3:05:09] House [3:05:09] Bill [3:05:09] 2112 [3:05:10] these [3:05:11] are [3:05:11] proposed [3:05:12] amendments [3:05:12] to [3:05:13] RA [3:05:14] 9136 [3:05:15] which is [3:05:16] EPIRA [3:05:16] Phil [3:05:17] Hydro [3:05:18] recognizes [3:05:18] the [3:05:19] urgent [3:05:20] need [3:05:20] to [3:05:20] accelerate [3:05:20] RE [3:05:21] development [3:05:22] we [3:05:23] leave [3:05:23] the [3:05:23] wisdom [3:05:23] to [3:05:23] the [3:05:24] authors [3:05:24] of [3:05:24] the [3:05:24] said [3:05:24] bills [3:05:25] on [3:05:25] the [3:05:25] said [3:05:25] direction [3:05:26] we [3:05:27] also [3:05:27] hail [3:05:27] these [3:05:28] bills [3:05:28] especially [3:05:28] on [3:05:29] its [3:05:29] aim [3:05:29] to [3:05:29] further [3:05:30] strengthen [3:05:30] the [3:05:31] ERC [3:05:32] on [3:05:33] Senate [3:05:34] bill [3:05:34] 1088 [3:05:35] which [3:05:35] is [3:05:35] an [3:05:36] act [3:05:36] removing [3:05:36] the [3:05:37] public [3:05:37] offering [3:05:37] requirement [3:05:38] of [3:05:38] generation [3:05:39] companies [3:05:40] which [3:05:40] is [3:05:40] authored [3:05:41] by [3:05:41] our [3:05:41] esteemed [3:05:42] senator [3:05:42] we [3:05:44] hail [3:05:44] this [3:05:45] bill [3:05:45] and [3:05:46] push [3:05:46] for [3:05:46] its [3:05:46] enactment [3:05:47] Phil [3:05:48] Hydro [3:05:48] believes [3:05:48] the [3:05:49] IPO [3:05:49] requirement [3:05:50] no [3:05:50] longer [3:05:50] serves [3:05:50] its [3:05:51] purpose [3:05:52] especially [3:05:53] as [3:05:53] hydro [3:05:53] developers [3:05:54] whose [3:05:55] average [3:05:55] capacity [3:05:56] are [3:05:56] within [3:05:56] the [3:05:57] 5-10 [3:05:57] megawatt [3:05:58] range [3:05:58] about [3:05:59] 90-95% [3:06:01] of [3:06:01] hydro [3:06:01] plants [3:06:02] also [3:06:02] are [3:06:02] below [3:06:02] 50 [3:06:03] megawatt [3:06:03] in [3:06:04] capacity [3:06:04] the [3:06:05] ERC [3:06:06] is [3:06:06] also [3:06:06] there [3:06:06] to [3:06:07] review [3:06:07] and [3:06:07] regulate [3:06:08] our [3:06:08] contracts [3:06:08] if [3:06:08] ever [3:06:09] we [3:06:09] wanted [3:06:10] to [3:06:10] enter [3:06:10] into [3:06:10] power [3:06:11] supply [3:06:11] agreements [3:06:11] with [3:06:12] the [3:06:12] use [3:06:12] and [3:06:14] lastly [3:06:14] though [3:06:15] this [3:06:15] is [3:06:15] not [3:06:15] part [3:06:16] of [3:06:16] the [3:06:16] agenda [3:06:16] I [3:06:17] would [3:06:17] like [3:06:17] to [3:06:17] commend [3:06:17] the [3:06:17] national [3:06:18] government [3:06:18] through [3:06:19] the [3:06:19] DOE [3:06:20] for [3:06:20] including [3:06:21] run [3:06:21] of [3:06:21] river [3:06:21] hydro [3:06:22] in [3:06:22] the [3:06:22] next [3:06:23] round [3:06:23] of [3:06:23] the [3:06:23] green [3:06:23] energy [3:06:24] auction [3:06:24] which [3:06:24] is [3:06:25] J7 [3:06:25] as [3:06:27] this [3:06:27] gives [3:06:27] us [3:06:27] the [3:06:28] opportunity [3:06:28] to [3:06:28] develop [3:06:28] more [3:06:29] hydro [3:06:29] projects [3:06:29] to [3:06:30] add [3:06:30] more [3:06:30] power [3:06:30] and [3:06:31] stability [3:06:31] to [3:06:31] our [3:06:31] grid [3:06:32] using [3:06:32] indigenous [3:06:32] sources [3:06:33] so [3:06:34] if [3:06:35] there [3:06:35] is [3:06:35] a [3:06:35] bill [3:06:35] to [3:06:36] strengthen [3:06:36] the [3:06:36] grid [3:06:36] energy [3:06:37] auction [3:06:37] then [3:06:37] we [3:06:38] would [3:06:38] appreciate [3:06:38] it [3:06:38] a lot [3:06:39] thank [3:06:40] you [3:06:40] and [3:06:40] that's [3:06:41] for [3:06:41] all [3:06:41] now [3:06:41] Mr. [3:06:41] Chair [3:06:41] thank [3:06:42] you [3:06:43] very [3:06:43] much [3:06:43] Wind [3:06:46] Energy [3:06:46] Developers [3:06:47] Association [3:06:48] are you [3:06:48] there [3:06:48] you [3:06:49] have [3:06:50] three [3:06:50] minutes [3:06:50] sorry [3:06:51] morning [3:06:51] Mr. [3:06:51] Chair [3:06:51] morning [3:06:54] Senator [3:06:54] Wind [3:06:54] and [3:06:55] Senator [3:06:55] Rotteros [3:06:56] the [3:06:57] Wind [3:06:57] Energy [3:06:58] Developers [3:06:58] Association [3:06:59] is [3:06:59] composed [3:07:00] entirely [3:07:00] of [3:07:01] wind [3:07:02] developers [3:07:02] and [3:07:03] we [3:07:03] are [3:07:03] focused [3:07:03] on [3:07:04] the [3:07:04] generation [3:07:04] and [3:07:05] promotion [3:07:06] of [3:07:06] the [3:07:07] wind [3:07:08] industry [3:07:08] now [3:07:09] we've [3:07:09] submitted [3:07:10] our [3:07:10] position [3:07:10] paper [3:07:11] and [3:07:11] in [3:07:11] the [3:07:11] interest [3:07:12] of [3:07:12] time [3:07:12] we [3:07:13] are [3:07:13] I [3:07:13] just [3:07:14] like [3:07:14] to [3:07:14] focus [3:07:14] on [3:07:15] two [3:07:15] things [3:07:15] we [3:07:16] support [3:07:16] the [3:07:17] bills [3:07:18] which [3:07:18] strengthen [3:07:19] the [3:07:19] ERC [3:07:19] in [3:07:21] its [3:07:21] role [3:07:21] as [3:07:21] regulator [3:07:22] considering [3:07:22] the [3:07:23] breadth [3:07:23] of [3:07:23] its [3:07:24] of [3:07:25] the [3:07:25] industry [3:07:27] that [3:07:27] it [3:07:27] regulates [3:07:27] starting [3:07:28] from [3:07:28] the [3:07:29] distribution [3:07:30] utilities [3:07:30] generation [3:07:31] and [3:07:31] down [3:07:31] to [3:07:32] consumers [3:07:33] at a [3:07:33] very [3:07:34] granular [3:07:34] level [3:07:34] so [3:07:35] the [3:07:35] enforcement [3:07:36] capability [3:07:37] of [3:07:37] the [3:07:38] commission [3:07:38] should [3:07:39] be [3:07:39] strengthened [3:07:40] in [3:07:40] this [3:07:40] instance [3:07:41] the [3:07:42] salaries [3:07:43] exemption [3:07:44] from [3:07:44] the [3:07:44] salary [3:07:44] standard [3:07:45] station [3:07:45] would [3:07:46] be [3:07:46] a [3:07:46] very [3:07:46] important [3:07:47] step [3:07:48] towards [3:07:48] making [3:07:48] the [3:07:49] ERC [3:07:50] competitive [3:07:51] in [3:07:52] terms [3:07:52] of [3:07:52] retaining [3:07:52] talent [3:07:53] and [3:07:53] trading [3:07:54] talent [3:07:54] over [3:07:55] the [3:07:55] long [3:07:55] run [3:07:56] that [3:07:57] it [3:07:57] can [3:07:57] rely [3:07:58] on [3:07:58] in [3:07:58] order [3:07:58] to [3:07:58] perform [3:08:00] its [3:08:01] mandate [3:08:01] properly [3:08:02] of [3:08:03] the [3:08:03] other [3:08:03] point [3:08:05] already [3:08:05] mentioned [3:08:06] by [3:08:06] my colleague [3:08:06] from [3:08:07] Phil Hydro [3:08:07] is [3:08:08] is [3:08:08] that [3:08:08] we [3:08:08] support [3:08:09] the [3:08:09] public [3:08:09] offering [3:08:10] requirement [3:08:12] to [3:08:13] be [3:08:13] candid [3:08:15] in [3:08:15] addition [3:08:15] to [3:08:16] the [3:08:16] comments [3:08:17] made [3:08:17] or [3:08:17] to [3:08:18] the [3:08:18] rationale [3:08:18] provided [3:08:19] by [3:08:19] SPWIN [3:08:20] the [3:08:22] public [3:08:22] offering [3:08:23] requirement [3:08:23] may [3:08:23] actually [3:08:24] be [3:08:24] a [3:08:24] bit [3:08:25] anti [3:08:26] competitive [3:08:26] in [3:08:27] terms [3:08:27] of [3:08:27] the [3:08:27] smaller [3:08:28] developers [3:08:28] because [3:08:29] the [3:08:29] smaller [3:08:30] developers [3:08:30] would not [3:08:31] have [3:08:31] more [3:08:31] than [3:08:31] one [3:08:31] two [3:08:32] or [3:08:32] three [3:08:32] projects [3:08:33] and [3:08:34] the [3:08:36] stock [3:08:36] exchange [3:08:37] looks [3:08:37] for [3:08:37] a [3:08:39] pipeline [3:08:39] of [3:08:39] projects [3:08:40] and [3:08:40] continued [3:08:40] growth [3:08:43] so [3:08:44] they may [3:08:44] not be [3:08:44] fit [3:08:45] for the [3:08:45] stock [3:08:46] exchange [3:08:46] and [3:08:47] there [3:08:47] are [3:08:47] a [3:08:48] lot [3:08:48] more [3:08:48] ways [3:08:48] to [3:08:49] achieve [3:08:52] capital [3:08:52] or [3:08:52] secure [3:08:53] capital [3:08:53] more [3:08:53] effectively [3:08:55] or more [3:08:56] efficiently [3:08:56] for small [3:08:57] developers [3:08:57] and [3:08:58] then [3:08:59] lastly [3:08:59] separately [3:09:01] in [3:09:02] keeping [3:09:03] with the [3:09:03] topic [3:09:04] we'd [3:09:04] like [3:09:04] to [3:09:05] support [3:09:05] the [3:09:06] statement [3:09:06] or [3:09:07] the [3:09:07] statement [3:09:10] that [3:09:11] the [3:09:12] ARCOA [3:09:13] that will [3:09:14] accelerate [3:09:15] the [3:09:15] implementation [3:09:16] of ARCOA [3:09:16] so that [3:09:17] it will [3:09:17] reach [3:09:17] household [3:09:18] level [3:09:18] as soon [3:09:19] as [3:09:19] possible [3:09:19] because [3:09:20] this [3:09:21] provides [3:09:22] the [3:09:22] electricity [3:09:23] consumer [3:09:23] at the [3:09:24] very [3:09:24] end [3:09:24] of [3:09:24] the [3:09:24] line [3:09:25] the [3:09:25] direct [3:09:26] benefits [3:09:26] of [3:09:26] competition [3:09:27] in [3:09:27] vision [3:09:28] by [3:09:28] APIR [3:09:29] thank [3:09:29] you [3:09:30] attorney [3:09:32] Ambrosio [3:09:33] would you [3:09:34] happen [3:09:34] to know [3:09:34] if [3:09:35] investors [3:09:36] would [3:09:36] like [3:09:36] to [3:09:36] come [3:09:37] in [3:09:37] wind [3:09:39] turbine [3:09:40] infrastructure [3:09:42] infrastructure [3:09:42] in [3:09:45] terms [3:09:45] of [3:09:45] wind [3:09:47] yes [3:09:47] we do [3:09:49] have [3:09:49] a lot [3:09:49] of [3:09:49] developers [3:09:50] sir [3:09:50] I mean [3:09:51] are [3:09:51] there [3:09:51] would [3:09:52] you [3:09:52] happen [3:09:52] to [3:09:52] know [3:09:52] if [3:09:52] there [3:09:53] are [3:09:53] interested [3:09:53] from [3:09:54] overseas [3:09:55] who would [3:09:55] like [3:09:55] to [3:09:55] come [3:09:56] in [3:09:56] yes [3:09:56] in [3:09:57] fact [3:09:57] we do [3:09:58] have [3:09:58] developers [3:09:59] already [3:09:59] from [3:09:59] Denmark [3:10:00] China [3:10:01] and [3:10:03] Spain [3:10:04] who [3:10:04] are [3:10:05] who are [3:10:06] using [3:10:07] the [3:10:08] rule [3:10:08] of the [3:10:09] establish [3:10:10] that [3:10:11] there [3:10:11] can be [3:10:11] 100% [3:10:12] foreign [3:10:12] investment [3:10:13] in [3:10:13] wind [3:10:14] and [3:10:14] solar [3:10:14] yeah [3:10:15] yeah [3:10:15] that [3:10:16] will [3:10:21] be [3:10:21] very [3:10:21] reasonable [3:10:22] not [3:10:23] depend [3:10:24] dependent [3:10:25] on [3:10:25] power [3:10:25] from [3:10:26] Luzon [3:10:26] for [3:10:27] example [3:10:27] my [3:10:28] province [3:10:28] Palawan [3:10:29] and [3:10:29] Mindoro [3:10:30] that's [3:10:31] they [3:10:33] don't [3:10:34] have [3:10:34] to [3:10:34] rely [3:10:35] on [3:10:35] power [3:10:35] coming [3:10:36] from [3:10:36] Luzon [3:10:37] mainland [3:10:38] correct [3:10:39] chairman [3:10:40] and [3:10:41] because [3:10:41] of the [3:10:41] advances [3:10:42] in [3:10:42] technology [3:10:42] hybridization [3:10:44] is much [3:10:44] more [3:10:44] possible [3:10:45] nowadays [3:10:45] either [3:10:46] wind [3:10:46] battery [3:10:48] solar [3:10:48] battery [3:10:49] and [3:10:50] that's [3:10:50] a lot [3:10:51] more [3:10:51] possible [3:10:51] so [3:10:52] when [3:10:52] you [3:10:52] think [3:10:53] that [3:10:54] will [3:10:54] be [3:10:54] possible [3:10:54] how [3:10:55] many [3:10:55] more [3:10:56] years [3:10:56] are [3:10:56] we [3:10:56] talking [3:10:56] about [3:10:57] now [3:10:57] we [3:10:58] will [3:10:58] be [3:10:58] seeing [3:10:58] a lot [3:10:59] of [3:10:59] wind [3:10:59] turbines [3:11:00] in [3:11:00] the [3:11:00] country [3:11:01] right [3:11:02] now [3:11:02] there's [3:11:02] nearly [3:11:04] 500 [3:11:04] megawatts [3:11:05] in [3:11:05] operation [3:11:06] and [3:11:07] I [3:11:07] believe [3:11:08] there's [3:11:08] nearly [3:11:09] a [3:11:09] gigawatt [3:11:09] in [3:11:09] development [3:11:10] and [3:11:11] we [3:11:11] will [3:11:11] see [3:11:11] them [3:11:11] soon [3:11:11] as [3:11:11] a [3:11:12] result [3:11:12] of [3:11:12] the [3:11:12] green [3:11:13] energy [3:11:13] option [3:11:13] thank [3:11:15] you [3:11:15] Philippine [3:11:19] Solar [3:11:20] and [3:11:20] Storage [3:11:21] Energy [3:11:21] Alliance [3:11:21] Good [3:11:23] afternoon [3:11:23] Mr. [3:11:24] Chair [3:11:24] Senator [3:11:25] Irwin [3:11:25] Tulfo [3:11:26] Senate [3:11:26] President [3:11:27] Senator [3:11:27] Ubing [3:11:28] Gatchalian [3:11:28] and [3:11:28] Senator [3:11:29] Risa [3:11:29] Contiveros [3:11:30] Misea [3:11:32] and [3:11:33] Battery [3:11:33] Energy [3:11:34] Storage [3:11:34] Systems [3:11:35] Companies [3:11:35] On behalf [3:11:36] of [3:11:36] Pwesea [3:11:36] na [3:11:37] nagsubmit [3:11:37] na po [3:11:37] kami [3:11:38] ng [3:11:38] aming [3:11:38] position [3:11:39] paper [3:11:39] sinusuportahan [3:11:40] po [3:11:40] namin [3:11:41] ng mga [3:11:41] bill [3:11:41] na [3:11:42] pinapalakas [3:11:43] po [3:11:43] ang [3:11:43] ERC [3:11:44] Kasama [3:11:44] po [3:11:44] sa [3:11:44] aming [3:11:45] mga [3:11:45] proposals [3:11:45] are [3:11:46] una [3:11:46] po [3:11:47] i-maintain [3:11:48] po [3:11:48] yung [3:11:48] composition [3:11:49] ng [3:11:49] ERC [3:11:50] na [3:11:50] chairperson [3:11:52] and [3:11:52] for [3:11:52] commissioners [3:11:53] para [3:11:53] conducive [3:11:54] yung [3:11:54] decision [3:11:55] making [3:11:55] Pangalawa [3:11:56] po [3:11:56] nananawagan [3:11:57] po [3:11:57] kami [3:11:57] ng [3:11:57] mga [3:11:58] reforma [3:11:58] sa competitive [3:11:59] selection [3:12:00] process [3:12:00] na isa [3:12:01] batas [3:12:01] kasi po [3:12:02] isa [3:12:03] batas [3:12:03] po [3:12:03] itong [3:12:04] mga [3:12:04] reforma [3:12:04] na ito [3:12:05] to [3:12:05] promote [3:12:05] competition [3:12:06] also [3:12:07] po [3:12:07] para [3:12:07] po [3:12:08] magkaroon [3:12:08] po [3:12:08] ng [3:12:08] level [3:12:09] playing [3:12:09] field [3:12:10] sa lahat [3:12:10] po [3:12:10] ng [3:12:10] energy [3:12:11] power [3:12:11] generation [3:12:12] companies [3:12:12] na wala [3:12:13] pong [3:12:13] palakasan [3:12:14] magkaroon [3:12:14] po tayo [3:12:15] ng [3:12:15] transparency [3:12:16] and [3:12:16] accountability [3:12:16] gawin [3:12:17] pong [3:12:17] mandatory [3:12:18] ang [3:12:18] CSP [3:12:19] at [3:12:19] nakasigurado [3:12:20] po [3:12:20] tayo [3:12:20] na [3:12:20] least [3:12:21] cost [3:12:21] electricity [3:12:22] ang [3:12:22] binibili [3:12:23] ng [3:12:23] ating [3:12:23] mga [3:12:23] kababayan [3:12:28] consistent [3:12:29] po [3:12:29] ang [3:12:29] Pilipinas [3:12:30] for the [3:12:30] past [3:12:30] 25 [3:12:31] years [3:12:31] na [3:12:31] nasa [3:12:32] top [3:12:32] 3 [3:12:32] highest [3:12:33] residential [3:12:34] electricity [3:12:34] prices [3:12:35] in the [3:12:35] whole [3:12:36] of [3:12:36] Asia [3:12:36] at [3:12:37] isa [3:12:37] po [3:12:37] sa [3:12:37] mga [3:12:37] core [3:12:38] issues [3:12:39] sa [3:12:39] high [3:12:40] electricity [3:12:40] prices [3:12:41] sa [3:12:41] Pilipinas [3:12:41] ang [3:12:42] CSP [3:12:42] o [3:12:42] competitive [3:12:43] selection [3:12:43] process [3:12:44] nabanggit [3:12:45] nyo [3:12:45] na rin [3:12:45] po [3:12:45] kanina [3:12:45] marami [3:12:46] po [3:12:46] talagang [3:12:46] problema [3:12:47] sa [3:12:47] CSP [3:12:48] meron [3:12:48] po [3:12:48] yung [3:12:48] alleged [3:12:49] tailor [3:12:49] fitting [3:12:50] of [3:12:50] bit [3:12:50] requirements [3:12:51] meron [3:12:51] din [3:12:51] po [3:12:52] yung [3:12:52] mga [3:12:52] passed [3:12:58] kaya [3:12:59] naniniwala [3:12:59] po [3:12:59] kami [3:13:00] na [3:13:00] it's [3:13:00] about [3:13:00] time [3:13:01] na [3:13:01] magkaroon [3:13:01] po [3:13:02] tayo [3:13:02] ng [3:13:02] reforma [3:13:03] sa [3:13:03] CSP [3:13:03] at [3:13:03] isabatas [3:13:04] po [3:13:04] ito [3:13:04] para [3:13:05] mas [3:13:05] maging [3:13:05] malakas [3:13:06] itong [3:13:06] mga [3:13:06] reforma [3:13:07] nito [3:13:07] at [3:13:07] mas [3:13:07] magkaroon [3:13:08] po [3:13:08] ng [3:13:08] permanency [3:13:09] itong [3:13:09] reforms [3:13:10] sa [3:13:10] CSP [3:13:10] po [3:13:11] natin [3:13:11] at [3:13:11] nanawagan [3:13:12] din [3:13:12] po [3:13:12] kami [3:13:13] na [3:13:13] palakasin [3:13:14] po [3:13:14] natin [3:13:14] ang [3:13:14] mandate [3:13:15] ng [3:13:15] ERC [3:13:15] na [3:13:16] magpromote [3:13:16] na [3:13:16] strategic [3:13:17] investment [3:13:18] sa [3:13:18] power [3:13:18] sector [3:13:19] bawasan [3:13:28] ng [3:13:29] energy [3:13:29] virtual [3:13:30] one-stop [3:13:31] shop [3:13:31] Thank you [3:13:34] for [3:13:34] bringing [3:13:35] that [3:13:35] to [3:13:35] our [3:13:35] attention [3:13:36] Take [3:13:37] note [3:13:38] Energy [3:13:39] Regulatory [3:13:39] Commission [3:13:40] Mr. [3:13:41] Shebe [3:13:41] may I [3:13:42] just [3:13:42] state [3:13:44] for the [3:13:44] record [3:13:45] that [3:13:45] ERC's [3:13:46] record [3:13:47] in terms [3:13:47] of [3:13:48] EVOS [3:13:48] compliance [3:13:49] is [3:13:49] 100% [3:13:50] in fact [3:13:51] we've [3:13:51] been [3:13:51] processing [3:13:52] applications [3:13:53] way [3:13:53] below [3:13:54] the [3:13:54] timeline [3:13:55] that [3:13:55] is [3:13:55] specified [3:13:55] in [3:13:56] the [3:13:56] law [3:13:56] I [3:13:57] take [3:13:57] offense [3:13:57] to [3:13:58] that [3:13:58] statement [3:13:58] that [3:13:59] implies [3:13:59] that [3:14:00] we've [3:14:00] not [3:14:00] been [3:14:01] complying [3:14:01] with [3:14:01] the [3:14:01] EVOS [3:14:02] law [3:14:02] But [3:14:02] sir [3:14:03] somebody [3:14:05] came up [3:14:06] to my [3:14:06] office [3:14:07] and [3:14:07] was [3:14:07] complaining [3:14:08] na [3:14:08] I [3:14:08] agree [3:14:09] with [3:14:10] him [3:14:10] yung [3:14:10] competitiveness [3:14:12] Tatlo [3:14:13] po sila [3:14:13] nag-beating [3:14:13] sa isang [3:14:14] distributor [3:14:15] problem [3:14:16] is [3:14:16] pinili [3:14:16] yung [3:14:17] pinakamahal [3:14:18] so [3:14:18] therefore [3:14:19] yung [3:14:19] sisingilin [3:14:20] po [3:14:20] mahal [3:14:20] di [3:14:21] po [3:14:21] ba [3:14:21] hindi [3:14:21] ko [3:14:21] alam [3:14:21] kung [3:14:22] may [3:14:22] sweetheart [3:14:23] deal [3:14:23] yung [3:14:23] distributor [3:14:24] at [3:14:24] saka [3:14:25] yung [3:14:25] generator [3:14:25] kasi [3:14:26] nagre-reklamo [3:14:27] siya [3:14:27] pinakamura [3:14:28] and then [3:14:29] suddenly [3:14:30] sinilipan [3:14:31] siya [3:14:31] ng ganito [3:14:31] hindi [3:14:31] siya [3:14:31] nanalo [3:14:32] e dapat [3:14:33] pa lang [3:14:33] daw [3:14:34] dun sa [3:14:34] pagtanggap [3:14:35] pa lang [3:14:35] ng kanyang [3:14:35] mga [3:14:35] requirements [3:14:36] kung [3:14:36] hindi [3:14:36] siya [3:14:36] nakafulfill [3:14:37] dapat [3:14:37] dinikyo [3:14:39] na siya [3:14:39] di ba [3:14:39] disqualified [3:14:40] unfortunately [3:14:41] hindi [3:14:41] hanggang [3:14:42] sa matapos [3:14:43] natalo [3:14:43] siya [3:14:43] pero [3:14:44] nung [3:14:44] tinignan [3:14:44] nila [3:14:45] yung [3:14:45] kinuha [3:14:46] ng [3:14:46] distributor [3:14:47] ng [3:14:48] kuryente [3:14:49] ay yung [3:14:50] mas [3:14:50] pinakamahal [3:14:51] ng [3:14:51] generator [3:14:51] so [3:14:52] he [3:14:53] doesn't [3:14:53] understand [3:14:54] kaya [3:14:54] nga po [3:14:54] nireklamo [3:14:55] niya [3:14:55] when I [3:14:56] took [3:14:56] over [3:14:56] as [3:14:56] energy [3:14:57] committee [3:14:58] chair [3:14:58] gusto [3:14:59] po [3:14:59] niya [3:14:59] iparating [3:15:00] sa inyo [3:15:00] pero [3:15:00] without [3:15:01] mentioning [3:15:01] his name [3:15:02] kasi [3:15:02] may [3:15:03] kontrata [3:15:04] na po [3:15:04] siya [3:15:04] isang [3:15:04] distributor [3:15:05] yun [3:15:07] po [3:15:07] yung [3:15:07] naririnig [3:15:08] namin [3:15:08] so [3:15:09] pakipantayan [3:15:11] lang [3:15:11] kung [3:15:11] mabuti [3:15:11] i don't [3:15:12] know [3:15:12] kung [3:15:12] anong [3:15:12] mga [3:15:13] process [3:15:13] na [3:15:13] ginagawa [3:15:14] ninyo [3:15:14] na [3:15:15] para [3:15:15] maiwasan [3:15:16] po [3:15:16] yung [3:15:16] favoritism [3:15:17] yung [3:15:18] bidding [3:15:19] bidding [3:15:19] nag [3:15:20] bidding [3:15:20] pa [3:15:20] dinirection [3:15:21] nilang [3:15:22] kaya nga [3:15:27] napag-usapan [3:15:28] natin [3:15:28] nung [3:15:28] last week [3:15:29] na [3:15:29] kami [3:15:30] mag [3:15:30] i-implement [3:15:31] ng [3:15:31] requirement [3:15:32] na dapat [3:15:33] ay dadaan [3:15:33] sa amin [3:15:33] lahat [3:15:34] yung [3:15:34] terms [3:15:34] of [3:15:34] reference [3:15:35] dahil [3:15:35] sa kasalukuyan [3:15:36] ay [3:15:36] wala po [3:15:37] kaming [3:15:37] control [3:15:38] dito [3:15:38] at [3:15:39] hindi [3:15:39] namin [3:15:39] na nga [3:15:39] natitignan [3:15:40] ngayon [3:15:40] po [3:15:40] pagka [3:15:41] na [3:15:42] i-promulgate [3:15:43] na namin [3:15:43] yung [3:15:44] yung [3:15:44] regulasyon [3:15:45] na yan [3:15:45] dadaan [3:15:46] po [3:15:46] sa amin [3:15:47] lahat [3:15:47] ng [3:15:47] terms [3:15:48] of [3:15:48] reference [3:15:48] at [3:15:48] hindi [3:15:49] na [3:15:49] po [3:15:49] yung [3:15:49] mangyayari [3:15:49] yung [3:15:50] ngayon [3:15:50] nakakaroon [3:15:51] sila [3:15:51] ng [3:15:51] ITV [3:15:52] or [3:15:52] invitation [3:15:52] to [3:15:53] beat [3:15:53] tapos [3:15:53] malilimitahan [3:15:57] yung [3:15:57] pwedeng [3:15:58] magpartisipate [3:15:59] so [3:15:59] maraming [3:16:00] nga [3:16:00] po [3:16:00] narinig [3:16:01] na [3:16:01] ganun [3:16:01] kaya [3:16:02] gusto [3:16:02] natin [3:16:02] maiwasan [3:16:03] na [3:16:04] po [3:16:04] yung [3:16:04] mga [3:16:04] ganito [3:16:04] mga [3:16:05] mga [3:16:05] mga [3:16:06] aktividad [3:16:06] kailan [3:16:07] na [3:16:07] maimplement [3:16:08] yung [3:16:08] program [3:16:09] na [3:16:09] yan [3:16:09] ito [3:16:11] po [3:16:11] minamadali [3:16:11] namin [3:16:11] katatapos [3:16:12] lang [3:16:12] ng [3:16:12] aming [3:16:13] public [3:16:13] consultations [3:16:14] at [3:16:14] kinopulate [3:16:15] lang [3:16:15] namin [3:16:15] para [3:16:16] may [3:16:16] sa final [3:16:16] yung [3:16:17] final [3:16:17] version [3:16:18] ng [3:16:18] resolution [3:16:18] po [3:16:19] at [3:16:19] ipopromovate [3:16:20] po [3:16:20] namin [3:16:20] yan [3:16:21] most likely [3:16:21] within [3:16:21] august [3:16:22] po [3:16:22] all right [3:16:23] thank you [3:16:23] good [3:16:24] chair [3:16:25] nino [3:16:26] anong [3:16:27] official [3:16:27] position [3:16:28] yun [3:16:28] dito [3:16:29] sa [3:16:29] cross [3:16:30] ownership [3:16:30] na [3:16:31] what's [3:16:32] your [3:16:32] official [3:16:33] position [3:16:34] being [3:16:35] the [3:16:35] regulator [3:16:36] ngayon [3:16:39] po [3:16:39] wala [3:16:39] talaga [3:16:39] kaming [3:16:40] napag-usapan [3:16:41] pa [3:16:41] at the [3:16:41] level [3:16:41] of [3:16:42] the [3:16:42] commission [3:16:42] but [3:16:43] if [3:16:43] ako [3:16:44] po [3:16:44] ang [3:16:44] matatanong [3:16:45] dahil [3:16:45] ito [3:16:46] ay [3:16:46] nangyari [3:16:48] po [3:16:48] ito [3:16:48] sa [3:16:48] ipira [3:16:49] pa [3:16:49] lang [3:16:49] dahil [3:16:50] nung [3:16:50] pagsisimula [3:16:51] nung [3:16:51] deliberation [3:16:52] ng [3:16:52] ipira [3:16:53] mayroon [3:16:54] tayong [3:16:54] umiiral [3:16:54] na [3:16:55] mga [3:16:55] power [3:16:55] purchase [3:16:56] agreement [3:16:56] at [3:16:57] mga [3:16:57] ito [3:16:57] ay [3:16:58] between [3:16:58] Miralco [3:16:59] at [3:17:00] ang [3:17:00] kanyang [3:17:00] ka-affiliate [3:17:01] at [3:17:02] ito [3:17:02] nga [3:17:02] po [3:17:02] ang [3:17:03] naging [3:17:03] pag-uusap [3:17:03] sa [3:17:04] kongreso [3:17:05] nung [3:17:05] isa batas [3:17:06] ang [3:17:06] ipira [3:17:07] kung [3:17:07] ito [3:17:08] ba [3:17:08] ay [3:17:08] ipagbabawal [3:17:09] na [3:17:09] dahil [3:17:10] ang [3:17:10] naging [3:17:10] parang [3:17:11] impresyon [3:17:11] ay [3:17:12] dahil [3:17:12] mag-anak [3:17:14] itong [3:17:14] dalawang [3:17:15] kumpanya [3:17:15] yung [3:17:16] may-ari [3:17:16] ng [3:17:17] mga [3:17:17] power [3:17:18] plants [3:17:18] na [3:17:19] kinontratan [3:17:21] ng [3:17:21] Miralco [3:17:22] so [3:17:22] maaaring [3:17:22] hindi [3:17:23] nagkaroon [3:17:24] ng [3:17:24] talagang [3:17:25] negosasyon [3:17:26] na [3:17:26] arms [3:17:26] leg [3:17:27] at [3:17:27] hindi [3:17:27] tuloy [3:17:28] yung [3:17:29] kontrata [3:17:30] ay [3:17:30] nagkaroon [3:17:31] tuloy [3:17:31] ng [3:17:31] pagkakataon [3:17:33] na makapag [3:17:34] recover [3:17:34] ng mga [3:17:35] gastusin [3:17:36] na hindi [3:17:36] naman [3:17:37] nararapan [3:17:37] so [3:17:38] yun lang [3:17:38] po [3:17:38] yung [3:17:38] impresyon [3:17:39] and [3:17:39] I think [3:17:39] dyan po [3:17:40] nang [3:17:40] galing [3:17:41] kaya [3:17:41] nagkaroon [3:17:42] ng [3:17:43] partial [3:17:43] na [3:17:44] prohibition [3:17:45] sa [3:17:45] cross [3:17:45] ownership [3:17:46] pagdating [3:17:47] sa [3:17:47] procurement [3:17:48] dahil [3:17:49] nga po [3:17:49] ang [3:17:49] distribution [3:17:51] utility [3:17:52] dapat ay [3:17:53] nagpo-procure [3:17:54] siya [3:17:54] ng [3:17:54] least [3:17:55] cost [3:17:55] para sa [3:17:56] kanyang [3:17:56] captive [3:17:57] market [3:17:57] at [3:17:57] kung [3:17:58] mayroon [3:17:58] nga [3:17:58] ganitong [3:17:59] pagkakataon [3:17:59] na [3:17:59] may [3:18:00] mapapaboran [3:18:01] na [3:18:01] kamag-anak [3:18:02] na [3:18:02] kumpanya [3:18:02] ay hindi [3:18:03] niya [3:18:03] magkagampanan [3:18:06] yung [3:18:06] obligasyon [3:18:07] na yan [3:18:07] pagdating [3:18:08] naman po [3:18:08] sa [3:18:08] cross [3:18:09] ownership [3:18:09] sa [3:18:09] panggitan [3:18:10] ng [3:18:11] transmission [3:18:11] at [3:18:12] ng [3:18:12] ibang [3:18:13] mga [3:18:13] sektor [3:18:14] kasi po [3:18:14] yan din [3:18:15] ay isang [3:18:15] humiiral [3:18:16] na [3:18:16] prohibition [3:18:17] na [3:18:17] ng [3:18:17] cross [3:18:18] ownership [3:18:18] ng [3:18:18] transmission [3:18:20] company [3:18:20] dahil [3:18:21] siya po [3:18:21] ang [3:18:21] pinakadaluyan [3:18:22] ng [3:18:22] kuryente [3:18:23] para [3:18:24] para magkaroon [3:18:25] talaga [3:18:25] ng [3:18:26] competition [3:18:26] dapat [3:18:27] ay [3:18:27] mananatiling [3:18:28] independente [3:18:29] ang [3:18:30] transmission [3:18:32] at [3:18:32] walang [3:18:33] may [3:18:33] mamayaring [3:18:34] or [3:18:35] interest [3:18:36] na [3:18:36] distribution [3:18:38] or [3:18:38] kaya [3:18:39] ay [3:18:39] generation [3:18:40] or [3:18:41] supply [3:18:42] ng [3:18:42] si [3:18:42] ganon [3:18:42] ay [3:18:43] walang [3:18:43] masasabi [3:18:44] na [3:18:44] mapapaboran [3:18:45] ang [3:18:45] transmission [3:18:46] operator [3:18:47] at [3:18:47] walang [3:18:48] masasabi [3:18:49] na [3:18:49] impact [3:18:50] sa [3:18:51] pagkakaroon [3:18:51] ng [3:18:52] competition [3:18:52] sa mga [3:18:53] sektor [3:18:53] na mayroon [3:18:54] tayong [3:18:55] pagpuporsige [3:18:56] na magkaroon [3:18:57] ng [3:18:57] competition [3:18:58] tulad [3:18:58] ng [3:18:58] generation [3:18:59] at [3:18:59] supply [3:18:59] sa [3:19:03] commission [3:19:03] yung [3:19:05] position [3:19:06] we'd like [3:19:07] to hear [3:19:08] sana [3:19:08] from the [3:19:10] regulator [3:19:10] dahil [3:19:11] at [3:19:11] end of [3:19:11] the day [3:19:12] kayo [3:19:12] yung [3:19:12] mahihirapan [3:19:14] o [3:19:14] kayo [3:19:14] yung [3:19:15] madadalian [3:19:15] ng [3:19:16] trabaho [3:19:16] dahil [3:19:16] kayo [3:19:17] magreview [3:19:17] ng [3:19:17] mga [3:19:17] documents [3:19:18] may [3:19:19] mga [3:19:19] accusation [3:19:20] nga [3:19:20] of [3:19:20] favoritism [3:19:21] or [3:19:21] sabi [3:19:23] ko [3:19:24] sa [3:19:24] daming [3:19:24] ways [3:19:25] to [3:19:25] disenfranchise [3:19:26] divider [3:19:27] kayo [3:19:28] rin [3:19:28] ang [3:19:28] mahihirapan [3:19:28] dyan [3:19:29] so [3:19:30] ang [3:19:30] tendency [3:19:33] and [3:19:33] temptation [3:19:34] is [3:19:34] mabigat [3:19:34] kung [3:19:35] ikaw [3:19:36] in [3:19:36] distribution [3:19:36] company [3:19:37] tapos [3:19:38] meron [3:19:38] kang [3:19:38] mayaring [3:19:39] generation [3:19:41] company [3:19:41] yung [3:19:42] temptation [3:19:42] na [3:19:42] bumili [3:19:43] sa [3:19:43] kanya [3:19:43] mabigat [3:19:44] so [3:19:44] you'll [3:19:45] really [3:19:45] find [3:19:46] ways [3:19:46] to [3:19:46] makabili [3:19:47] sa [3:19:47] kanya [3:19:48] dahil [3:19:49] kita [3:19:51] yan [3:19:51] for [3:19:51] both [3:19:52] companies [3:19:53] so [3:19:53] pag-aralan [3:19:55] nyo [3:19:55] official [3:19:55] position [3:19:56] and [3:19:56] of [3:19:57] course [3:19:57] that [3:19:57] should [3:19:57] be [3:19:58] based [3:19:58] also [3:19:58] on [3:19:59] your [3:19:59] experiences [3:20:00] in the [3:20:00] past [3:20:01] and [3:20:02] ako [3:20:02] naman [3:20:02] alam [3:20:02] ko [3:20:02] maraming [3:20:03] maraming [3:20:04] magagalit [3:20:05] na negosyante [3:20:05] diyan [3:20:06] dahil [3:20:06] maraming [3:20:07] generation [3:20:08] at [3:20:08] utility [3:20:09] but [3:20:09] ang [3:20:10] punto [3:20:10] naman [3:20:10] para [3:20:11] sa [3:20:11] consumers [3:20:11] to [3:20:11] para [3:20:13] sa [3:20:13] kabutihan [3:20:14] ng [3:20:14] consumers [3:20:14] at [3:20:15] para [3:20:15] bumaba [3:20:16] pa [3:20:16] ang [3:20:16] presyo [3:20:17] ng [3:20:17] koreyante [3:20:17] natin [3:20:18] dahil [3:20:18] mas [3:20:18] maraming [3:20:19] competition [3:20:19] ang [3:20:20] papasok [3:20:20] so [3:20:21] pumili [3:20:22] ka [3:20:22] na [3:20:22] kung [3:20:23] gusto [3:20:23] mo [3:20:23] na [3:20:23] sa [3:20:23] distribution [3:20:24] ka [3:20:24] gusto [3:20:25] mo [3:20:25] na [3:20:25] sa [3:20:25] generation [3:20:26] kapili [3:20:26] ka [3:20:26] na [3:20:26] lang [3:20:27] but [3:20:27] wag [3:20:27] both [3:20:27] pwede [3:20:29] ka [3:20:29] naman [3:20:29] kumita [3:20:30] in [3:20:30] both [3:20:30] sides [3:20:31] thank [3:20:32] you [3:20:33] thank [3:20:33] you [3:20:33] thank [3:20:34] you [3:20:34] philippine [3:20:37] chamber [3:20:37] of [3:20:37] commerce [3:20:38] and [3:20:38] industry [3:20:38] have [3:20:38] three [3:20:39] minutes [3:20:39] sir [3:20:41] are [3:20:49] you [3:20:49] here [3:20:50] sir [3:20:51] sorry [3:20:51] just [3:20:51] for [3:20:52] clarification [3:20:52] the [3:20:53] philippine [3:20:54] chamber [3:20:54] of [3:20:54] commerce [3:20:55] yes [3:20:56] philippine [3:20:57] chamber [3:20:57] of [3:20:57] commerce [3:20:58] and [3:20:58] industry [3:20:58] we [3:21:06] are [3:21:06] from [3:21:06] the [3:21:06] joint [3:21:06] foreign [3:21:07] chamber [3:21:07] sir [3:21:07] oh [3:21:08] okay [3:21:08] all [3:21:09] right [3:21:09] the [3:21:11] philippine [3:21:11] project [3:21:12] yes [3:21:13] sir [3:21:13] the [3:21:14] philippine [3:21:15] project [3:21:15] is [3:21:16] advocacy [3:21:16] arm [3:21:17] of [3:21:17] the [3:21:18] joint [3:21:18] foreign [3:21:18] chambers [3:21:19] consisting [3:21:19] of [3:21:19] the [3:21:20] american [3:21:20] canadian [3:21:21] european [3:21:22] japanese [3:21:23] and [3:21:23] korean [3:21:24] and [3:21:24] the [3:21:24] pamuri [3:21:24] or [3:21:25] the [3:21:25] association [3:21:26] of [3:21:26] multinational [3:21:27] regional [3:21:28] headquarters [3:21:29] we of [3:21:30] course [3:21:31] are grateful [3:21:31] for having [3:21:32] us [3:21:32] and we [3:21:33] are thankful [3:21:33] to the [3:21:33] chair [3:21:34] and to [3:21:34] the [3:21:34] committee [3:21:35] and our [3:21:35] honorable [3:21:35] senators [3:21:36] for allowing [3:21:37] us to [3:21:37] participate [3:21:38] in today's [3:21:38] hearing [3:21:39] the [3:21:40] amendments [3:21:41] to the [3:21:41] apira [3:21:41] has always [3:21:42] been [3:21:42] one [3:21:43] of the [3:21:44] priority [3:21:44] legislations [3:21:45] of the [3:21:45] jfc [3:21:46] we included [3:21:47] this [3:21:47] in fact [3:21:48] in every [3:21:49] letter [3:21:49] that we [3:21:50] sent to [3:21:50] the [3:21:50] president [3:21:50] before [3:21:51] his [3:21:51] sona [3:21:52] including [3:21:52] this [3:21:53] year [3:21:53] given [3:21:54] the [3:21:54] technical [3:21:54] nature [3:21:55] and [3:21:55] the [3:21:55] time [3:21:55] constraint [3:21:56] we [3:21:56] would [3:21:56] submit [3:21:57] our [3:21:57] detailed [3:21:58] session [3:21:59] and [3:21:59] on [3:22:00] the [3:22:01] professions [3:22:01] in a [3:22:02] position [3:22:02] paper [3:22:02] as we [3:22:03] have [3:22:03] done [3:22:03] during [3:22:04] the [3:22:05] previous [3:22:05] congresses [3:22:06] thank [3:22:06] thank [3:22:06] you [3:22:06] thank [3:22:06] you [3:22:06] mr [3:22:06] chair [3:22:07] okay [3:22:08] thank [3:22:08] you [3:22:08] very [3:22:09] much [3:22:09] uh [3:22:10] the [3:22:11] philippine [3:22:12] project [3:22:12] well [3:22:12] we [3:22:13] move [3:22:13] on [3:22:13] i think [3:22:14] we have [3:22:14] like [3:22:14] four more [3:22:17] freedom [3:22:18] from that [3:22:18] coalition [3:22:19] uh [3:22:19] what is [3:22:20] your [3:22:20] uh [3:22:20] position [3:22:21] on [3:22:58] the ADV in the full field so number one for you sir but not even at this with your respect [3:23:13] sama say stop now and you see the paper ng ngc ngcp because the transmission for some [3:23:22] papel ng mga gobyerno sa asya yan ang center sila ang system operator so sila nag nagbabasbas how to [3:23:34] develop the whole power sector eh pero nakikita nyo medyo paudlot-udlot ang adjustment so we're [3:23:44] suggesting na ibalik sana yung uh nationalization ng transmission kundi month to definition kasi po [3:23:55] meron di security implications yan anyway that's one for so generation masyadong mahaba na discussion [3:24:04] doon sa system losses but the thing that the poor yung pag-approve ng erc surprising na binibigay [3:24:14] ng guan at saka sa ah ang Supreme Court po eh dati na may decision na ah pwede na ho sa mga [3:24:22] monopolies katulad sa nasa generation na magkaroon silang return on investment na 12% pero ay [3:24:33] sarisari hong deduction ng ina ang ating inoconsider tapos pati yung itemization ng possible expenses [3:24:42] for the next five years in terms of investment kaya po nagkakaroon ng ah malaking sakit ng [3:24:49] ulo ang mga kasama sa erc computing magkano yung overpriced na nasisingil ang mirarco why [3:24:57] that we simplify this and why that we appeal to the the big companies na mag exercise naman sila ng [3:25:05] corporate social responsibility palagay ko po kayang kaya ng Pangulo ng Pilipinas na eh eh eh eh [3:25:12] i-convene yung mga big ah jencos at tapos eh in the name of ah the welfare of the country at saka [3:25:20] para maging competitive tayo sa getting investment magsama-sama how to lower the cost yan po [3:25:27] ang solusyon dyan hindi yan magagawa ng erc lang pagdating sa sa distribution we agree na bawasan [3:25:36] naman po itong cross ownership at tapos po sa sa distribution po lalo na sa electric co-ops ah mahalaga [3:25:44] po ang papel ng consultation with the people yung po marami po tayong ko pero hindi yata nila pinagagana [3:25:52] yung prinsipyo ng cooperative na ah itong pagpatakbo ng cooperative is with the people and for the [3:26:00] people so dapat po eh ah nagsasama-sama dyan to it in a way ganyan po ang ginawa sa vietnam vietnam by the [3:26:09] way ah nalampasan po tayo sa vietnam was a devastated country because of the war divided yung country and yet [3:26:18] they achieve full electrification lalo na sa rural areas but malaki po ang papel ng consultation sa [3:26:25] tao malaki po and then hindi po namin maintindihan itong itong animal na tinatawag na wesem kasi yung wesem [3:26:34] naman parang ilan lang naman nagpa-participate dyan tapos ah bakit sila eh nakapag didigta ng ah price [3:26:43] dito sa gagamit sila dito sa yung search ng pricing ng ilang mga nangailangan ng kuryente [3:26:57] so medyo po dapat ma-review itong overall yun po ah in summary ang gusto namin mangyari magkaroon ng ah hindi [3:27:06] lamang review ng system losses but system uh the system as a whole system overall thank you [3:27:14] oh well mr reno friend the reason why uh this uh hearing is being conducted uh this is our second [3:27:20] hearing uh it is all about the pira law sir we really have to it's high time that we have to review [3:27:26] this hindi lang po impira pati all the regulation po riribihin po nitong uh committee na ito thank you [3:27:32] very much attorney uh selesa institute uh for climate sustainable cities are you here yes mr chairman [3:27:44] please limit your presentation or uh statement for three minutes thank you mr chairman uh first of all [3:27:51] good afternoon senator uh tool for good afternoon senator win senator yourisa and tiveros uh thank you for the [3:27:58] opportunity to provide uh our small input to this hearing disaster rule and uh earlier this morning [3:28:05] so first of all um uh marami na pong na-discuss earlier with regard to system laws and all of this [3:28:13] uh but uh in all of this uh since we are working in a free economy uh there has always been a private [3:28:21] entity and a regulator uh but from what we can uh see um there has been some sort of lacking uh [3:28:31] characteristics or categories by which we determine if the private entities are compliant or are up to [3:28:38] our standards by which they provide their service uh secret just to balance between a regulator and a [3:28:44] private entity it will always uh it will also be for the benefit of all so in the private sector for this [3:28:50] is uh if i may suggest for a private sector this is term as a service level agreement so we agree on [3:28:58] by which standards we determine if the service providers are uh are compliant or not and in [3:29:05] conjunction to that if i may also suggest is of course we need uh in a free economy we need a [3:29:11] strong regulatory agency or a regulator so this is where we come in for the erc and the efforts of [3:29:18] of this committee uh to provide a stronger regulatory agency as a erc so what we suggest for is that uh [3:29:26] maybe uh in the earlier discussion for for example uh we were only talking about the audience of the [3:29:32] erc on the fuel pass uh if the uh the gencos passed on to the uh computed their fuel pass to uh correctly [3:29:41] but maybe pa we can go a little bit a little bit further by providing a mechanism or a process by which [3:29:48] erc can impose penalties and fines rather than just uh refund so that's all mr chair thank you thank you [3:29:57] attorney uh guanzon next uh uh representative from the uh japanese chamber of commerce mr robago you have three [3:30:05] minutes good afternoon mr chair and uh senators good afternoon for over five decades the japanese [3:30:13] chamber of commerce and industry here in the philippines has remained committed to strengthening and [3:30:17] enduring economic partnership between japan and the philippines today our chamber represents over seven [3:30:25] almost 700 japanese companies and affiliated organizations and they all watch out for energy [3:30:32] costs and predictability here in the philippines in fact we employ more than 300 000 filipinos here in [3:30:38] the philippines we would like to manifest that uh reliable affordable and sustainable electricity [3:30:48] remains one of the most important considerations for japanese companies operating and investing in the [3:30:54] philippines energy costs directly affect the competitiveness of manufacturers exporters logistics [3:31:02] logistics providers and other industries that contribute to employment tech transfer and economic growth [3:31:10] so we at the japanese chamber uh support reforms that strengthen the country's power sector [3:31:18] by promoting competition improving regulatory efficiency and encouraging timely investment in power [3:31:26] infrastructure the philippines continue to attract high value manufacturing and strategic [3:31:35] investments we all know that maintaining a stable predictable energy environment is equally important [3:31:42] we encourage that the amendments to the apira be guided by the principles of regulatory certainty [3:31:50] fair competition and meaningful stakeholder consultation these will help sustain investor confidence while [3:31:59] advancing the shared objective of ensuring reliable affordable and sustainable electricity for [3:32:07] consumers and businesses alike the japanese chamber and also the joint foreign chambers [3:32:14] looks forward to continuing continuing to work with the congress and the irrelevant government [3:32:20] agencies in support of these objectives thank you very much for the consideration thank you mr [3:32:26] robago center for energy research and policy uh you have three minutes sir thank you mr chair good [3:32:35] afternoon the center for energy ecology and development has been engaging issues in the power and energy sectors [3:32:43] in the past decade alongside consumer groups and other csos towards promoting clean and affordable renewable energy [3:32:51] many of the issues mentioned in the previous hearing and even today [3:32:54] like pass-through costs annual outages and issues on market pollution have been part of the issues that we've been [3:33:01] been engaging we welcome these hearings which seek to discuss apira a 25-year legislation that we believe has failed [3:33:09] in bringing about affordable electricity for filipinos we have submitted our position paper and complete presentation [3:33:17] for the reference of the committee but for the sake of brevity we would like to share just three points [3:33:23] today the first point is the reason behind the high electricity rates which is the result of continued [3:33:28] dependence on fossil fuels much of which are imported counter to the objective of apira to generate affordable [3:33:35] rates data since the start of the decade and through the two wars showed that electricity rates have only [3:33:42] continued to increase residential rates of miracle for example have jumped from 9 pesos to 13 pesos since [3:33:49] 2020 we can observe this across the country as well as mentioned in the earlier discussion a large portion [3:33:56] of our electricity electricity bills come from the generation sector or rather generation rate component [3:34:03] where re sources play around four to six pesos while fossil fuel sources generate at the rate of up to nine [3:34:10] pesos as one of our recommendations we should prioritize re development as opposed to technological [3:34:18] neutral stance given the benefits of re in reducing generation rates the second reason behind high [3:34:25] electricity rates are passed through costs which particularly include fossil fuel costs the removal of [3:34:33] system loss is very welcome and the discussion that opened up a while ago covering what components of the [3:34:40] generation charge are being passed on is also welcome these are exorbitant costs passed on to electric consumers [3:34:48] while private generation companies profit from electricity generation selling electricity electric [3:34:55] consumers unfortunately have no share on those profits however in when it comes to the risks attributed [3:35:02] to imported fossil fuels electric consumers shoulder that burden this has long been questioned by consumer [3:35:09] groups especially now that the consumers are reeling from the impacts of the energy crisis in fact [3:35:15] according to the philippine institute of development studies study the energy crisis may push up to 3.1 million [3:35:24] filipinos into poverty pass-through should be prohibited and street pricing should be mandated instead we are part of [3:35:32] groups that have questioned and asked for the adoption of street pricing in the terms of power supply agreements but [3:35:39] unfortunately pass-through is still allowed today one last point in the interest of time in the in the need [3:35:47] in the interest of time is the need to prohibit cross ownership and to raise the threshold that limits market [3:35:53] concentration in the grid that aims to prevent prevent price manipulation and market collusion data shows [3:36:01] those that are goods are annually subjected to prolonged outages penalties should be increased and sanctions [3:36:09] placed on those that go on prolonged outages far beyond the um uh imposed uh limitations uh thank you mr [3:36:16] chair thank you uh mr andres uh uh sp do you have a closing statement or uh senator orisa we're good okay i just [3:36:27] have one uh question for a 31 31 kong ian bundle natin yung generation costs so electric bill do you think [3:36:40] will you be able to do that then therefore makikita ninyo you can control your profit margin [3:36:46] siguro if we have bundled this and bundling of the generation costs and don't push a regulation [3:36:54] ng erc ngayon nire require natin ang bawat distribution utility na ipo sa kanilang mga websites yung [3:37:01] kanilang generation suppliers at kung magkano ang kuha at kung gaano kadami ang kinuha nila bawat [3:37:08] one so makikita po natin dito yung aktual na ibinabayad sa kanya ng kanilang mga [3:37:14] uh at kakontratang distribution utilities pwede po natin naman na makikita ikumpara rin ito doon [3:37:21] sa kanilang mga annual report na sinusumite sa komisyon at isusuma natin kung magkano yung kanilang [3:37:28] benta sa kanilang mga kakontrata at more or less makita din natin kung magkano ang kinikita po ng ating [3:37:35] mga generation companies thank you 31 31 uh you second essential and uh attorney uh rosero [3:37:42] lee uh we'll have one more hearing pertaining to this uh assistance laws kailangan po natin [3:37:49] madalihin uh we have you guys really have to talk to each other and communicate with us we have a [3:37:56] mission here kailangan kailangan na po mga kababayan natin para hindi na po nahihirapan sobrang [3:38:02] kahirap na po ito uh go ahead uh said risa nagdag po dyan mr chair di ba may kasabihan na if it ain't broke [3:38:10] don't fix it pero simula dito sa pagtatanggal ng system loss charge at vats a system loss charge [3:38:18] sa bill ng kuryente ng ating mga kababayan i think maganda po yung direction tinatahak [3:38:24] natin na dahil hindi naman po naganap yung pangako ng ipira sa loob ng quarter of a century [3:38:32] obviously kailangan po talaga nating amyandahan yan kung di man palitan ng isang bagong batas na [3:38:39] gaganap sa pangako niya na magkaroon ng kuryente lahat ng pilipino at the least cost salamat mr chair [3:38:47] thank you sanresa you know yung target natin siguro uh attorney juan and uh yusek rio and uh [3:38:54] attorney rosa you will agree with me is that possible we will endeavor mr [3:39:05] chair attorney what yes from nea we will follow the lead of the department of energy thank you very [3:39:15] much well with that thank you to all our resource persons for your valuable insights recommendations [3:39:20] and contribution to this discussion the committee extends its sincerest appreciation to all our [3:39:25] resource persons stakeholders and distinguished colleagues for their valuable participation [3:39:30] and meaningful contribution to today's deliberation together with the submission and discussions [3:39:36] from the hearing conducted on july 23 today's proceedings have further enriched the committee's [3:39:41] understanding and discussions from the hearing conducted on july 23 today's proceedings have [3:39:48] further enriched the committee's understanding of the issues and proposed reforms relating to epira [3:39:55] the secretariat is directed to consolidate all position papers comments recommendations [3:40:00] and additional submission received in connection with this hearing for the committee's review and [3:40:05] evaluation for those of not yet submitted their position papers supplemental comments we respectfully [3:40:11] request that they be forwarded to the committee at the soonest possible time and uh i'd like to [3:40:17] announce that on friday next week there will be another hearing pertaining to this systems loss there [3:40:24] being no further matters to discuss this hearing is hereby suspended thank you and have a pleasant day to everyone