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"I got the big one that doesn't have it. Is that it? Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. I will call this meeting to order of the Blue Ribbon Committee. But before that, I would like to make an opening statement. Today, we gather for a consultative meeting and an organizational briefing to organize..."
[0:00] I got the big one that doesn't have it.
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[10:39] Ladies and gentlemen, good morning.
[10:41] I will call this meeting to order of the Blue Ribbon Committee.
[10:46] But before that, I would like to make an opening statement.
[11:02] Today, we gather for a consultative meeting
[11:05] and an organizational briefing to organize the Blue Ribbon Committee
[11:09] under the present majority block headed by Senate Pro Temporary
[11:12] and Acting Senate President Sherwin Gatchelian.
[11:15] To be clear, we will be asking for updates from the executive agencies.
[11:21] As we proceed, this committee must likewise address the circumstances
[11:26] surrounding the June 4 press conference held in the session hall.
[11:30] That press conference was presented to the public as a Blue Ribbon Committee proceeding,
[11:36] despite having no authorization from the duly recognized chairman of the committee
[11:42] or from the office of the Acting Senate President.
[11:46] It was conducted outside established Senate rules and institutional processes.
[11:50] Simply put, it was not a legitimate Blue Ribbon Committee hearing.
[11:56] It was irregular, a house show, as you may want to call it,
[12:00] a make-believe investigation, masquerading as an official Senate proceeding.
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[17:23] Okay, Comsec. So with that, we now allow our fellow senators to deliver their opening statements, if they have any. Go ahead.
[17:42] Thank you, Chairperson, Senator Irwin.
[17:47] Good morning to everyone. As earlier noted, for the record, today's proceedings are being conducted as a consultation and organizational meeting, rather than a hearing of the Committee.
[18:00] The purpose is to facilitate the orderly transition and continuity of the Committee's work pending the completion of its reorganization and membership and formal constitution of the Committee.
[18:16] As we proceed with the formal and official public consultation meeting of this Committee, allow us to place on record the following and reiterate the following.
[18:25] The June 3 session, convened by 12 senators, was in compliance with the Constitution, the rules of the Senate, and jurisprudence.
[18:34] And 12 being a quorum, all acts pertaining to the official business of the Senate in plenary on June 3 are deemed lawful, consistent with the Constitution, including the motion to declare all elected positions vacant, which includes the position of Senate President, number one.
[18:55] Number two, the election of Senator Irwin Gatchalian as Senate President pro temp to address the vacancy in the position of Senate President is also lawful and consistent with the Constitution.
[19:10] And number three, the election of Senator Irwin Tulfo as chairperson of the Blue Ribbon Committee is likewise lawful and consistent with our rules.
[19:20] In addition, the official acts of the Senate in plenary last June 3 has been recognized as lawful and consistent with the Constitution by the Office of the President, the House of Representatives, several retired Supreme Court Justices, Deans, and eminent professors of law of various law schools nationwide, five former Senate presidents, and no less than the Integrated Bar of the Philippines, the largest organization of lawyers in the country.
[19:52] As such, we reiterate, therefore, that the so-called Blue Ribbon Committee hearing conducted last Thursday, June 4, was illegal, void ab initio, and had no binding effect.
[20:10] It is in this context that today's public consultation and organizational meeting of the Blue Ribbon Committee is being called to order.
[20:18] And we hope that with these proceedings, we will be able to get to the bottom of the truth behind the allegations earlier presented.
[20:31] Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I yield the floor.
[20:35] I yield the floor.
[20:36] Thank you, Senator Pangilinan.
[20:37] Thank you, Senator Pangilinan.
[20:38] We now go to our acting Senate President, Senate Pro Tempore, Huynh Gachilian.
[20:42] Thank you, Chairman.
[20:43] Let me acknowledge and thank our Chairman, Chairman Irwin Tulfo, for calling this hearing slash consultative meeting.
[20:56] Let me also thank our Vice Chairman, Vice Chairman Tico Pangilinan, and of course, all the members of this esteemed committee.
[21:05] Unang-una sa lahat po, nakakadismaya na hindi po umatin yung 18 bodyguards, yung kanilang abogado na si Atty. Baligod at si Ginoong Mike Defensor dito sa ating patawag.
[21:22] Ito po ay opisyal na patawag.
[21:24] Nag-release po ang Blue Ribbon Secretariat ng official na invitation.
[21:31] Ipinost to sa website. Itong ating consultative meeting today ay ini-stream rin po sa website.
[21:43] At makikita po natin na full complement po ang nandito po sa consultative meeting.
[21:50] At nakakadismaya po dahil kung alam ng mga invited guests, particularly po yung 18 bodyguards, na sa loob ng kanilang puso ay alam nila ang kototohanan,
[22:06] e dapat pumunta po sila dito para ipamahagi at ishare sa ating lahat ang kototohanan.
[22:12] Hindi po pwedeng pumili kung saan sila pupunta at magsalita.
[22:15] Hindi po pwedeng pumili kung sino ang kakausapin nila, kung kakampi man o hindi.
[22:21] Dahil kung alam mo na sa puso mo ang katotohanan, kahit saan ka pumunta, katotohanan ang dapat mong sabihin.
[22:29] Marami po kaming ako, personally, marami po akong inihandang mga katanungan.
[22:35] Nakita ko po yung kanilang mga sinumpaang salaysay.
[22:39] Marami po akong gustong itanong.
[22:41] Dahil marami po akong nakikitang inconsistency gaps.
[22:45] At gusto kong malinawan itong mga inconsistencies at gaps.
[22:50] Nagprepara po tayo para makausap po sila.
[22:53] At parang po maging patas ang pagdinig po natin ngayong umagang ito.
[22:58] Pero sa ganitong sitwasyon, ako po personal na nadidismaya.
[23:06] Dahil hindi po tayo nagkaroon ngayon ng pagkakatoon para matanong sila.
[23:11] At lalong klaruhin yung mga kanilang isinasabi itong mga nakaraang mga panahon.
[23:18] Sa alam ko, marami po silang inikutan na iba't ibang venue para magsalita.
[23:24] Pero ito po yung pinakamahalagang venue para po ilahad ang katotohanan.
[23:29] So sa ganitong punto, ako po ay nagpapasalamat po sa ating chairman.
[23:34] Sa kanyang paghahanda dito sa ating aktibidad ngayong araw na ito.
[23:40] At nagpapasalamat po ako sa lahat ng ating mga kasamahan dahil nagbigay sila ng oras.
[23:46] At naghanda sila para harapin po itong mga eating bodyguards na marami pong sinasabi tungkol sa iba't iba pong mga personalidad.
[24:00] So marami marami salamat po.
[24:02] Marami salamat po, Senator Tempore, Acting Assistant President Wayne Gachilian.
[24:09] We'd also like to acknowledge the presence of our colleagues, Senator JV Ercito, Senator Bamakino, Senator Tito Soto, and Senator Risa Anteberos.
[24:21] Salamat, Chair.
[24:22] We now, I believe Senator Raffi has a statement.
[24:26] Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[24:28] Mr. Chair, it took all my energy to not to gatecrush the live selling that happened here last June 4.
[24:37] The way it happened, the way it was handled, the statements being made.
[24:42] Gusto ko lang talagang pumunta dito, hindi naman po ako invited doon sa conference nila na yon.
[24:48] I waited for today's hearing to confront the resourceful persons they presented.
[24:56] Let me call on them labing walong kargador.
[24:59] Kasi nga po, nagkakarga sila ng mga mali-maletang pera, sabi nga nila.
[25:04] Yun po talagang trabaho niya tagabitbit, tagakarga ng maleta.
[25:07] Una, sino ba itong labing walong kargador ng mga maleta?
[25:13] Saan ba sila galing?
[25:14] We cannot simply bring in people sa Blue Ribbon Committee na nag-aakusa na mabibigat na paratang
[25:21] nang hindi man lang nalalaman kung karapat-dapat ba sila paniwalaan.
[25:27] Kasi simulang-simula pa lamang po na tinawag silang 18 Marines, may paglilil lang na agad.
[25:34] Yung bansag na 18 Marines ay isang paraan upang pabanguhin sila sa publiko.
[25:40] Matig po kasi yan.
[25:42] Pag sinabing Marines, aba, iba po ang respeto ng mga tao.
[25:47] Pero hindi naman po silang lahat ay dating Marines.
[25:51] At mahigit kalahati sa kanila ay discharged without honors or dishonorably discharged from service for various offenses.
[26:00] Ibig sabihin palpak sila.
[26:02] Tulad na pagiging able o absent without leave.
[26:07] Why is this information very important?
[26:11] Because for people to believe their allegations, it must come from a credible and reliable source.
[26:18] And so, the people using them portray them as heroes.
[26:23] God damn.
[26:24] Sabi nga ng isa sa mga senador na dumalun nung araw na yon,
[26:27] Bayani daw po sila.
[26:29] Pero nangakaya naman po sila sa iba nating mga bayani.
[26:34] Na itong labing walong kargador, na ilang taong nagtrabaho kay Saldico,
[26:41] may seven years at nine years,
[26:44] at nagbitbit daw, sabi nila,
[26:46] ng sangkatutak ng maleta ng pera.
[26:49] At bigla na lang, tinubuan ng konsensya,
[26:53] at ngayon ay naninira ng buhay ng mga inusenteng tao,
[26:57] ay tatawagin nating,
[27:00] Bayani,
[27:01] Pasensya na.
[27:03] Hindi ako papayag na matabi ang mga sinungaling neto
[27:06] kila Jose Rizal, Andres Bonifacio,
[27:09] at mga dakila nating OFWs.
[27:12] At dito papasok ang pangulaw kong punto.
[27:15] Hindi lang po ang kredibilidad ng labing walong kargador ang kaduda-duda.
[27:20] Ang mismong testimonya nila ay nakakapagtaka.
[27:26] Lumabas na po ang ilan sa mga ito sa balita.
[27:29] Pero, pasadaan lang po natin.
[27:31] Let me show some video clips of the hearing.
[27:33] Video 1.
[27:36] Si Father Flabi ay hinateran ko ng pera doon sa Mindanao Ab.
[27:45] Isang sobre yun, sir.
[27:48] Anong lugar po yun?
[27:49] Sa Mindanao Ab, sa mismo simbanya, sir.
[27:52] Sa may gilid ng kalsada.
[27:54] Bakit po kayo nagdala ng pera doon sa pare?
[27:57] Kasi, sir, pang...
[28:00] Hindi ko ano, sir.
[28:01] Ang pakaano nila yun, sir.
[28:03] Basta nagdala lang kami ng pera, sir.
[28:05] Tapos doon, sa 33...
[28:08] Maleta din ba?
[28:09] Hindi nila mo?
[28:10] Isang sobre, sir.
[28:11] Tapos doon, sir.
[28:12] Sa 33 Clemente...
[28:14] Baka naman sulat lang pinadala kayo sobre.
[28:16] Hindi, sir.
[28:17] Pero, sir.
[28:18] Kita ko mismo, sir.
[28:19] Tapos sa 33 Clemente, sir.
[28:20] Isang maleta.
[28:21] Kanino?
[28:22] Kay Father Klabe, binuwat ko papunta sa sakyan niya.
[28:25] Tapos yung soot niya, sir.
[28:26] Itim.
[28:27] Napangpare.
[28:28] Sagot naman ni Diocese of Cabal Bishop Elias Ayuban Jr.
[28:32] There is no church entrusted to the Society of the Divine Word on Mindanao Avenue or anywhere in its vicinity.
[28:39] Alawa.
[28:40] Tapos yung soot niya, sir.
[28:47] Itim.
[28:48] Napangpare.
[28:49] Sagot naman ni Diocese of Cabal Bishop Elias Ayuban Jr.
[28:54] There is no church entrusted to the Society of the Divine Word on Mindanao Avenue or anywhere in its vicinity.
[29:01] Alawa.
[29:06] iPhone time travel.
[29:09] 2024 pa lang, wala pang iPhone 16E noong 2024.
[29:16] Ang mutok yung flood control po, 2024.
[29:21] Nakapagsalita na po dito si Master Sergeant Orly Gotiza.
[29:27] Ngayon, maraming nagliligaw sa amin.
[29:32] Ano po? Ano po?
[29:33] Nililigawan po kami na hindi na po kami magsalita.
[29:36] Yung lahat ng cellphone po namin bibigay po sa kanila.
[29:41] Sa anong dahilan?
[29:42] Papalitan po ng mga bago po, iPhone po.
[29:47] Ano ang klase yung mga cellphone nyo?
[29:50] Nokia?
[29:51] iPhone 16.
[29:52] So papalitan nila ng mas maganda?
[29:54] Yes sir or no.
[29:55] Alam ninyo ang dahilan kung ba't nila gagawin yun?
[29:58] Kasi nandun yung mga picture namin nyo.
[30:00] Ano klaseng cellphone para ma-record?
[30:02] iPhone 16E 128GB.
[30:06] Nang i-check ng News 5 sa mismong website ng Apple,
[30:09] lumalabas na February 21, 2025 ang pre-order na naturang model na sinasabi ng Bagman Sahiri.
[30:15] Matlo, pinili na impormasyon. Ano ang nangyari sa pagpapalabas ng katotohanan?
[30:25] Kung pinipili lang nila kung sino ang ilalabas?
[30:29] Malinaw ang detalya nila sa una nilang affidavit
[30:32] tungkol sa mga maletang dinala sa ilan namin kasamahan dito na may address pa.
[30:37] Pero bakit parang miraculo na naglaho ang naratibo tungkol dito?
[30:42] Sa original affidavit ng mga dating sundalo,
[30:47] nandun din si Senator Loren daw at saka yung magkapatid na billiards.
[30:51] Ngayon po lang nakita yung affidavit.
[30:53] I have not read, etc.
[30:55] Pangapat, aking pinasilip ang lugar na yun sa Makati.
[31:04] Video 4. Money changing.
[31:07] Nag-advise po si boss, magpapalit kami ng piso to dollar na dalawang maleta.
[31:13] Doon sa Makati po.
[31:15] Bibili kayo ng US dollar?
[31:17] Yes, yes our honor.
[31:19] Dinala po namin ito sa Pearl Bank Makati,
[31:21] Salcedo Village po.
[31:23] Dalawang maleta, worth of 50 to 60 m po ang laman.
[31:30] Aking pong pinasilip ang lugar na yun sa Makati
[31:35] at walang record ng money changer sa Pearl Bank building.
[31:39] Dapat po makumpirma ito.
[31:41] At syempre, nandiyan din po ang mga kadudadudang testimonya nila
[31:45] sabang kay Sen. Soto na pinabulaanan niya
[31:48] na dahil nga matagal ng patay ang sinasabi nilang
[31:51] si E.A. Mark or Executive Assistant Mark.
[31:57] At ang pambawi nila ng aligasyon tungkol kaya
[31:59] Representative Laila D. Lima
[32:01] na noong mga panahon na yun ay hindi pa kongresista
[32:04] at nakakulong pa.
[32:05] At sabi niyong Boltzmann Boyeng Rimulya,
[32:07] ang isang letrato ay delivery na nangyari
[32:11] nung panahon ni Speaker Lord Velasco pa.
[32:16] And so I come to my third point.
[32:18] Because it seems that some of the information from these
[32:21] 18 porters or kargador are fed.
[32:24] They have a hard time telling their story on their own.
[32:27] Kung papanawin mo ang live selling nila noong Webes,
[32:31] hirap silang ikwento ang kanilang naratibo.
[32:34] The presiding officers of that conference were coaching
[32:38] and leading the resourceful persons.
[32:42] Pag medyo nagkakamali,
[32:44] siyempre,
[32:46] inaayos ng mga presiding officers ang testimonya.
[32:49] Minsan si Atty. Baligod na
[32:51] hindi naman involved sa pagbitbit ng balita,
[32:53] ay siyang tumitistigo tungkol sa nangyari.
[32:57] E wala naman siyang personal knowledge.
[32:59] Ikaapat na punto,
[33:02] nais ko pong humingi ng dispensa sa ating mga Senate Media.
[33:05] Bilang broadcaster at kasapin na media,
[33:10] masakit po tuwing nababansagan ng ilan sa atin na bayaran
[33:14] kasi nasisira po ang profesyon natin.
[33:18] Pero itong pagsisigawan na bayaran ng karamihan sa atin
[33:21] dito sa lugar na tinawag niyo ng tahanan at buong puso niyong
[33:26] prinoprotektahan sa pamamagitan na makatotohan ang pagpapayag,
[33:29] ay tatawagin kayong bayaran.
[33:32] Hindi po tama yun.
[33:34] This institution time and time again owes you its dignity
[33:37] because you keep the Senators on their toes
[33:41] and make sure we stay true to the Filipino people.
[33:45] At kay Sen. Cayetano,
[33:48] huwag po tayo masyadong demanding.
[33:50] Itong magreklamo na wala ka sa front page.
[33:54] Limited pong front page space ng mga diyaryo.
[33:57] Kaya pili lang po talaga ang nalalagay dyan.
[34:01] Pero hindi ibig sabihin din na sila patas.
[34:04] Dahil kung titignan mo naman online,
[34:07] all these news outlets reported his statement.
[34:10] It is in their online platform.
[34:13] Kung saan libo-libo ang nagbabasa.
[34:15] The front page is reserved for the biggest and latest news.
[34:19] Yun bang bagong kaganapan.
[34:23] Yun po kasing pagkapit sa kapangirian at hindi pagtanggap sa pagkatalo nyo.
[34:28] Lumambalita na po.
[34:30] But nevertheless, it was reported upon.
[34:34] I-Google nyo po yun.
[34:35] And my fifth point, we have to look into the allegation
[34:40] na nabayaran ng limang milyon ang labing walong kargador.
[34:44] I'm not saying it's true.
[34:47] Hira po ng NBI itong witness nila na nagsabi noon.
[34:52] Pero ang masasabi ko lang,
[34:54] Itlang kayo ng mga malalaking tao
[34:56] para sa mga personal nilang interest sa politika.
[34:59] Kulang yung 5 milyon.
[35:02] Kunwari inanalayan nila kayo.
[35:04] Pero pagharapin nyo na itong sangkatutak na kaso na isasampas sa inyo,
[35:10] nitong mga siniraan ninyo,
[35:13] Tingnan nyo, unti-unti kayong iwan yan.
[35:15] Ngayon pa lang,
[35:17] nainig mo na sila na nagugas kamay sa mga paratang nyo.
[35:20] Dumidistansya sila sa inyo dahan-dahan.
[35:23] Kaya sa ating mga kababayan,
[35:25] mag-ingat po tayo sa paniwalaan or papaniwalaan.
[35:29] Remember, the devil can cite the scripture for his purpose.
[35:36] No more no less.
[35:38] When Jesus went into the wilderness to pray,
[35:42] the devil tried to tempt him three times.
[35:46] But as he was failing to tempt Jesus,
[35:52] and as he was getting desperate,
[35:55] what did the devil do?
[35:58] He quoted the scriptures from the book of Psalms.
[36:01] Huwag po tayo magpapadala sa mga mabubulaklak na mga pananalita
[36:06] dahil lang siya ay nagbabasa ng Biblia.
[36:09] Huwag po tayo basta maniniwala
[36:12] dahil binansagang bayani o marins ang 18 na kargador.
[36:18] Buksan po natin ang ating mga mata,
[36:20] taing at utak.
[36:21] Huwag po tayo magpapadala sa mga live selling nila.
[36:24] Tingnan nyo po kung sino ang nagbebenta.
[36:26] Kasi kung mahistoryan ng pagbubudol
[36:30] at di tayo maingat,
[36:32] tayo na po ang susunod na biktima nila.
[36:35] And before I end,
[36:36] I would like to remind my colleagues here in the Senate
[36:43] to please be very careful
[36:46] in calling out some people as bayani,
[36:51] putting them on a pedestal
[36:54] dahil hindi naman talaga totoo
[36:57] because that will be a reflection of you.
[37:00] Tatawagin mo ang mga taong umami naman
[37:03] na nag-deliver ng mga kickback
[37:05] kung sino-sino ang poncho pilato.
[37:06] So therefore,
[37:08] matatawag silang sindikato.
[37:10] So kung tatawagin mong bayani
[37:12] isang sindikato,
[37:13] sindikato ka rin.
[37:15] As simple as that.
[37:16] Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.
[37:17] Maraming salamat, Senator Rafi.
[37:21] We now go to Senator J.B.
[37:23] If you have any opening statement.
[37:25] Mr. Chair,
[37:26] I'll just go straight to the question later
[37:29] so that we can start the ball rolling.
[37:31] Thank you.
[37:32] Thank you, Senator J.B.
[37:34] Senator Bang.
[37:35] Okay.
[37:36] Now we go to Senator Tito Soto.
[37:40] Thank you.
[37:41] I'm just here to listen.
[37:44] I actually would not want to dignify
[37:49] parang siningit na doon sa salaysay.
[37:52] But nevertheless,
[37:53] I'm here to listen,
[37:54] Mr. Chairman.
[37:55] Thank you.
[37:59] Thank you very much,
[38:00] Senator Soto.
[38:01] Senator Rizonteferros.
[38:03] Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[38:06] And good morning to all.
[38:08] The new mayor of the Senate.
[38:12] But in any investigation,
[38:15] there should be evidence
[38:17] that it is not just a story.
[38:19] That's what we want to know today.
[38:23] But the 18 ex-bodyguards
[38:26] are not in the Senate now.
[38:29] It's an opportunity to know
[38:32] what the truth is.
[38:35] But the resource persons
[38:38] are not here
[38:39] to make their story clear.
[38:42] I recall a quote which says,
[38:46] Truth doesn't mind being questioned.
[38:50] A lie does not like being challenged.
[38:53] Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[38:56] Thank you very much,
[38:59] Mr. Chair.
[39:00] Thank you very much,
[39:02] Mr. Chair.
[39:03] Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
[39:06] go to the questioning in the matter of the order of arrival of our colleagues.
[39:16] Senator, Senate Pro Tempore Wingachalian, followed by Senator Rafi Tulfo, Senator JV,
[39:27] Senator Baum, Senator Soto, and Senator Arie Santander.
[39:29] Of course, after the chairman, it will be the vice chairman, and then the Senate Pro Tempore.
[39:38] And let us now, before we go to the presentation of the various agencies present today that we invited,
[39:49] like the National Bureau of Investigation, the Ombudsman, the Department of Public Works and Highways,
[39:54] and the Department of Justice, Department of Budget Management,
[39:56] I would just like to quickly mention, because it's based on the accusations of the blue ribbon of the 20th Congress,
[40:07] headed by Senator Ping Lakson.
[40:09] Iwala pong nagawa.
[40:10] Actually, there were bills filed because of the investigation.
[40:15] Isa po diyan, ang Senate Bill No. 1453, License Integrity Act.
[40:19] Ito po yung prohibiting unlawful lending, borrowing, a fraudulent use of licenses,
[40:26] permits, and other concessions granted by the state.
[40:29] Yung pagpapahiram po na mga lisensya na mga kontraktor.
[40:32] Dahil po, na bulgar po dito po sa blue ribbon hearing.
[40:37] Isa po po, ang Senate Bill No. 1373, Contractors License Law.
[40:43] Ito po yung bill, restructuring and strengthening the Philippine Contractors Accreditation Board,
[40:48] introduces stricter qualifications in terms of office for its members.
[40:52] Ang ibig po sabihin, hindi na po, pag ikaw ay member ng PICAB, hindi ka po pwedeng mankontrata sa gobyerno.
[40:59] SB No. 1360, Master Plan for Infrastructure and National Development Act.
[41:04] 30-year Comprehensive Infrastructure Development Master Plan,
[41:09] which shall focus on the country's long-term vision, goals, and strategy of infrastructure development.
[41:15] Hindi po yung basta na lamang isumiti yung program of work ng isa pong politiko para makakuha po ng pondok.
[41:23] Kailangan po ito'y nakabase sa master plan po for infrastructure and national development.
[41:29] Isa po ay ang regulation of foreign travel for government officials and employees.
[41:35] Senate Bill No. 1362, this bill regulates foreign travels and government officials and employees
[41:39] who are under investigation for acts that may compromise national security, public safety, or public health.
[41:47] Senate Bill No. 1364, amending the Bank Secrecy Act.
[41:52] This measure proposes to amend the law by authorizing a competent court or investigating body
[41:57] to examine the bank deposits of public officials.
[42:00] Senate Bill No. 1365, amending PD No. 1759,
[42:04] penalizing the contractors and subcontractors who violate any material provision
[42:09] of contracts involving public works of government officials of government
[42:14] and public officials who allow such violation.
[42:18] Senate Bill No. 1358, Budget Modernization Act of September 9, 2025,
[42:24] ito po kaya po natin mapapanood na from now on ang bicameral conference po
[42:28] ng dalawang kupulungan sa pagsasagawa po ng ating budget at marami pa pong iba.
[42:33] E yun lamang po ay pinapaalala po natin doon sa mga nagsasabi na wala pong ginawa
[42:38] ang Blue Ribbon hearings po nito mga nagdaang panahon.
[42:43] Iyan po ang accomplishments po ng Blue Ribbon hearing na isinagawa po natin ngayong 20th Congress.
[42:50] Now, we go to the presentation.
[42:52] Yes.
[42:52] If you don't mind, Mr. Chairman, yes, also, to fortify what you're saying,
[43:00] Senate Bill 1835 is an infrastructure governance act reorganizing the DPWH.
[43:09] We filed the bill.
[43:12] Now that Senator Soto, let us now move to the presentation of the various agencies.
[43:19] We start with the National Bureau of Investigation.
[43:20] Attorney Melvin Matibag, go ahead please.
[43:26] Meron po kaming pre-repair na slides, baka po pwedeng ablas.
[43:34] Go ahead.
[43:37] Una po sa lahat, magandang umaga po sa inyong lahat.
[43:40] Maraming salamat po sa inyong imbitasyon at kamusta na po kayo, mga kaibigan naming Senador.
[43:46] Noong Pebrero 23 po, 2026, nagsumite ng Joint Apidavit ang grupo
[43:51] na sinasabing the former security of Saldico kasama si Attorney Balikod
[43:57] na naglalaman ng mga aligasyon ng cast deliveries.
[44:01] Ang investigasyon ay sinagawa ng NBI Task Force Marino
[44:04] base sa deputisasyon ng ombudsman at sa sariling kapangyarihan ng NBI.
[44:10] So, tinawag po namin Task Force Marino ito noon,
[44:13] pero pwede naman na po namin palitan siguro yung pangalan ng Task Force
[44:16] pag mamarapatin.
[44:19] Yes, please do that.
[44:21] Kasi po, insulto po sa institusyon sa Philippine Marine Corps
[44:25] at sa Armed Forces of the Philippines
[44:27] dahil ito pong mga ito ay karamihan po sa kanila.
[44:30] Tulad po na nasabi ni Sen. Raffi,
[44:33] ito po yung mga nag-awol.
[44:34] May kaso po.
[44:35] Dishonorable discharge.
[44:35] At sinabi na rin po ng AFP na maaari huwag pong gamitin
[44:40] na sila po ay 18 Marines
[44:42] dahil hindi po sila lahat Marines
[44:44] at ang iba may mga kaso.
[44:46] Maraming salamat po.
[44:47] Salamat po.
[44:47] Palitan lang po namin kung hindi Task Force Bodyguard,
[44:50] baka Task Force Bellboys po
[44:51] para mas appropriate po siguro.
[44:55] Next slide, please.
[44:56] Ang ating tatalakayin ngayon
[44:59] ay ang ebidensyang halaga ng abidabit
[45:03] ng tinagroang 18 bodyguards.
[45:05] Sa kasong ito,
[45:06] ginamit ang abidabit bilang pangunahing ebidensya
[45:09] na umano'y cast deliveries.
[45:11] Ngunit ayon sa NBI Task Force,
[45:14] kailangan nating suriin kung sapat ba
[45:16] ang bigat ng ebidensya,
[45:18] kung may issue sa paggamit ng titulong Marines
[45:20] at kung paano na iba ang independent recollection
[45:24] sa collective narrative.
[45:25] Ang layunin natin ay makita
[45:28] kung ang abidabit ay talagang nakatutulong
[45:32] sa pagbuo ng probable cause.
[45:34] Kung ito man ay kahinaan na dapat
[45:36] pagtunan ang pansin.
[45:37] Sa katunayan po,
[45:38] ang ginamit na lang nga naming pamantayan
[45:40] ay probable cause
[45:41] at hindi na yung memorandum circular ng DOJ
[45:45] na nagsasabi ng
[45:46] there should be reasonable certainty of conviction
[45:49] pag mag-aakyat tayo ng kaso.
[45:51] Next slide, please.
[45:54] Ang tanong na dapat sagutin,
[45:55] nakakatulong ba o nakakasira
[45:58] sa kredibilidad ang label na ex-Marine?
[46:01] Ginagamit ang label na ito
[46:03] para ipakita ng grupo
[46:04] na may integridad at disiplina.
[46:07] Gaya na nga po ng sinabi ni Sen. Rapi Tulfo
[46:10] kanina sa kanyang opening statement.
[46:12] Sa kasong ito,
[46:13] may mga member ng grupo
[46:15] na hindi naman tunay na Marines
[46:16] o honorably discharged.
[46:20] Sa katunayan po,
[46:21] ayon sa aming pagsusuri at pag-iimbestiga,
[46:24] labindalwa sa labing anim
[46:26] na dating Marines
[46:27] ay dishonorably discharged.
[46:29] At may mga miyembro ng Army
[46:31] at Reservist lamang
[46:32] o sibilyan.
[46:33] Kaya ang ex-Marine label
[46:35] ay otomatikong nagbibigay
[46:37] ng kredibilidad
[46:38] na sa dyang ginamit
[46:39] upang itaas
[46:40] ang kalidad ng kanilang
[46:42] sinasabing testimonya.
[46:44] Next slide, please.
[46:45] Ayon sa batas,
[46:48] ang testimonya
[46:49] ay dapat nakabatay
[46:50] sa personal na kaalaman
[46:52] kung ang testigo
[46:53] ay aktual na nakakita
[46:54] ng cash delivery,
[46:56] mas malakas ang ebidensya.
[46:59] Ngunit kung narinig lang niya
[47:00] mula sa iba,
[47:02] ito ay hearsay
[47:03] at mahina
[47:04] ang probative value.
[47:07] Ito po ay isang legal na provision.
[47:08] Testimony must be based
[47:10] on personal knowledge.
[47:12] Hearsay has a weak probative value.
[47:14] Sa report na lumabas
[47:16] ng aming task force,
[47:18] lumalabas na karamihan
[47:19] sa payag ng
[47:20] i-hearsay
[47:21] at 10 to 20% lamang
[47:23] ang base sa personal knowledge
[47:25] ng mga afayans.
[47:27] Halimbawa,
[47:28] may testigo na nagsabing
[47:29] sinabi sa akin ni Estrada
[47:30] na may cash delivery.
[47:33] Hindi ako mismo
[47:33] ang nakakita
[47:34] at hindi rin po nakita
[47:36] kung ano ang laman
[47:37] ng mga maleta.
[47:38] Base lamang
[47:39] sa sinasabi
[47:40] ng kanilang mga kasama
[47:41] o kung ano
[47:42] ang itinex
[47:43] sa kanilang group chat.
[47:46] Next slide, please.
[47:47] Sabi naibit,
[47:49] 10 to 20% lang
[47:51] ang base sa personal
[47:52] na kaluman.
[47:53] Halimbawa,
[47:54] may ilang testigo
[47:55] na nagsabing
[47:55] nakita nila ang bag
[47:56] pero ang karamihan
[47:58] ay narinig lamang
[47:59] mula sa ibang membro
[48:00] ng grupo
[48:01] o executive assistant.
[48:03] Ang majority
[48:04] ng pahayag
[48:04] ay hearsay
[48:05] kaya mahina
[48:06] ang ebidensya.
[48:08] Isang halimbawa
[48:09] ng pahayag
[48:09] ng testigo
[48:10] sinabi sa akin
[48:11] ni Estrada
[48:12] na may cash delivery.
[48:14] Hindi ako mismo
[48:14] ang nakikita
[48:15] sa report
[48:16] na binanggit
[48:16] ng mga personal
[48:17] knowledge
[48:17] ng bawat tapayan
[48:18] ay limitado.
[48:20] Ang natitirang assertions
[48:22] ay hearsay na.
[48:24] Next slide, please.
[48:27] Walang dokumento.
[48:28] Ito na po,
[48:29] importante po ito
[48:30] para suportahan
[48:31] ang kanilang testimonya.
[48:33] Walang dokumento.
[48:35] Ito yung next slide pa po.
[48:38] Lack of collaboration.
[48:40] Walang dokumento,
[48:42] device,
[48:43] o physical evidence
[48:44] na sumusukorta
[48:45] sa mga aligasyon.
[48:47] Halimbawa,
[48:49] walang CCTV footages,
[48:52] resibo,
[48:53] o cellphone,
[48:55] records.
[48:55] Wala po.
[48:57] Nagpapatunay ng kasili.
[48:58] Ang ebidensya
[48:59] ay puro salita lamang.
[49:01] Walang kasamang
[49:02] physical na ebidensya.
[49:04] Sa report,
[49:04] kahit may sabwina,
[49:06] walang naipakitang
[49:07] original photographs,
[49:08] receipts,
[49:09] o bank statement
[49:10] ang grupo.
[49:11] Ang absence
[49:12] ng documentary evidence
[49:13] ay hindi lamang kahinaan,
[49:15] kundi direct failure
[49:16] to comply with
[49:17] the legal directive.
[49:18] Binigyan po namin sila
[49:19] ng sufficient time
[49:21] para magsumite
[49:22] ng mga
[49:22] corroborative evidence,
[49:25] testimonya man,
[49:26] o material evidence,
[49:27] o physical evidence,
[49:28] wala po silang
[49:29] isinumite.
[49:32] Next slide please.
[49:34] Ang laman ng bag
[49:35] ay kadalasang
[49:36] hinuhulaan lang.
[49:37] Hindi actual na nakita.
[49:39] Halimbawa,
[49:40] sinabi ng testigo
[49:41] na mabigat ang bag,
[49:43] kaya pinaniniwalaan nilang
[49:44] pera ang laman.
[49:46] Pero walang actual
[49:47] na pagtingin
[49:47] o pagbubukas ng bag.
[49:49] Sa report
[49:50] ng 12,
[49:52] sa 18 na payans,
[49:53] hindi nakita
[49:54] ang laman ng maleta
[49:55] at tumaasa lamang
[49:56] sa bigat,
[49:58] code word na basura
[49:59] o sinabing
[50:00] executive assistant,
[50:01] ang corpus,
[50:03] ang elemento,
[50:03] o ang kas mismo
[50:04] ay hindi napatunay
[50:06] na independent evidence.
[50:07] Kung maalala nyo po,
[50:09] may mga lubabas
[50:09] noon na,
[50:11] na binibit na
[50:12] noonang inilabas
[50:13] sa media
[50:13] na sinasabi nila,
[50:15] kaya na lamang pera,
[50:17] merong mga
[50:17] nasa active duty pa
[50:19] na PNP
[50:20] na binuksan
[50:21] at kumuha ng pera.
[50:23] Pero nung isinumiti na po
[50:24] sa ombudsman
[50:25] yung abidibit,
[50:26] wala na po yun.
[50:28] Hindi na po binanggit yun
[50:29] doon sa kanilang
[50:30] abidibit
[50:30] na isinumiti
[50:31] sa ombudsman.
[50:34] Ang mangyari po rito,
[50:35] parang nagpapalit-palit
[50:37] palagi
[50:37] ang sinasabi doon
[50:38] sa abidibit
[50:38] hanggang po
[50:39] nung huling
[50:39] nagkaroon ng
[50:40] pagdinig po dito.
[50:42] Next slide please.
[50:43] Ang abidibit
[50:46] ay hindi dumadaan
[50:47] sa cross-examination.
[50:49] Kaya mas mababa
[50:51] ang bigat nito
[50:52] kumpara sa
[50:52] testimonya sa korte.
[50:54] Halimbawa sa abidibit,
[50:56] hindi natatanong
[50:57] ang testigo
[50:58] ng kabilang panig.
[51:01] Sana po,
[51:01] ito nga yung pagkakataon
[51:02] na magkaroon
[51:03] ng paghaharapan.
[51:04] Kaya hindi masusuri
[51:05] ang katotohanan
[51:06] ng pahayag.
[51:08] Kung may maling
[51:08] informasyon,
[51:09] hindi ito agad
[51:10] mahihihwatingan.
[51:12] Sa report,
[51:13] binanggit
[51:14] ng abidibit
[51:15] ay ex-parte
[51:16] coordinated
[51:16] at hindi
[51:17] subject
[51:18] sa cross-examination.
[51:20] Ang Supreme Court
[51:21] na po mismo
[51:21] ang nagsabing
[51:22] ang coordinated
[51:23] testimony
[51:23] ay may
[51:24] diminish weight.
[51:27] Next slide please.
[51:29] May mga
[51:30] informasyon
[51:30] na dumaan
[51:31] pa sa dalawa
[51:32] o higit pang tao
[51:33] bago makarating
[51:35] sa abidibit.
[51:37] Halimbawa,
[51:38] ang isang
[51:38] miyembro
[51:38] ay naniniglang
[51:39] mula sa ibang
[51:40] miyembro
[51:41] na may
[51:41] cast delivery
[51:42] tapos
[51:43] isasama
[51:44] sa abidibit,
[51:45] lalong humihina
[51:46] ang credibility
[51:47] ng ganitong
[51:48] payag
[51:48] dahil
[51:49] hindi ito
[51:51] directang
[51:52] karanasan.
[51:53] Sa report,
[51:54] maraming assertion
[51:55] ang galing
[51:55] sa group
[51:56] Viber Chats
[51:56] o sa
[51:57] Executive Assistant.
[51:58] Hindi sa
[51:59] sariling
[52:00] karanasan
[52:00] ng
[52:00] appayant
[52:01] ang hearsay
[52:03] ay
[52:03] inadvisable
[52:04] at walang
[52:07] independent
[52:08] probative
[52:08] weight.
[52:10] Double
[52:10] hearsay pa nga po.
[52:12] Narinig sa ganito,
[52:13] pinasa sa kanila.
[52:15] At yung
[52:15] grupo po,
[52:18] doon sa
[52:18] Viber Chats nila,
[52:19] hindi na alam
[52:20] kung sino
[52:20] nagpadala
[52:21] at nung
[52:21] inahanap po namin
[52:22] yung mga
[52:24] Viber Chats na ito,
[52:25] ang sinasabi,
[52:26] wala na yung
[52:26] telepono.
[52:28] Kaya maaaring yung
[52:28] binabanggit po noon
[52:29] na sinabing
[52:30] papalitan yung
[52:31] telepono
[52:31] kasama na sa
[52:32] naratibo
[52:32] ang kanilang binubuo.
[52:35] Next slide,
[52:35] please.
[52:36] Attorney Mativag,
[52:37] before you continue,
[52:38] we'd just like to
[52:39] inform everyone.
[52:40] Nayun pong
[52:41] labing walong
[52:42] ex-bodyguides
[52:43] narito po
[52:44] sa
[52:45] building na ito,
[52:47] nasa tanggapan po
[52:48] ni
[52:49] Senator
[52:49] Robin Padilla,
[52:51] kasama po si
[52:52] Attorney Baligod.
[52:53] Despite po
[52:54] yung
[52:54] ating po
[52:55] imbitasyon sa kanila
[52:56] na dumalo sa
[52:57] hearing,
[52:58] mas binabuti po nilang
[52:59] magtungo sa
[53:00] opisina ni
[53:00] Senator Robin Padilla
[53:01] at doon po
[53:03] ika nga magmonitor
[53:04] at maglive din
[53:05] yung labing walong
[53:07] ika nga
[53:09] bodyguard
[53:10] at magpa-presscon.
[53:12] Yun lamang po,
[53:13] I just want to
[53:13] let everybody know
[53:15] na they're here
[53:16] in the building,
[53:16] yung labing walo po na yun,
[53:18] kasama po si
[53:18] Attorney Baligod,
[53:19] pero ayaw po nilang
[53:20] bumabali dito
[53:22] sa ating
[53:22] hearing
[53:23] at nandoon po sila
[53:24] sa tanggapan
[53:25] ni Senator Robin Padilla.
[53:27] Continue,
[53:28] Attorney
[53:28] Baligod.
[53:29] Yes,
[53:29] go ahead,
[53:30] Sena Risa.
[53:31] Mr. Chair,
[53:32] for the record
[53:33] lang po,
[53:33] bagamat
[53:34] ito pong
[53:36] dinadaos natin
[53:37] ngayon
[53:37] sa pamumuno
[53:39] ninyo na
[53:39] Blue Ribbon
[53:40] Committee
[53:40] ay meeting,
[53:42] pero inaasahan
[53:43] ko rin po
[53:44] na
[53:44] iimbitahan
[53:45] ng Chair
[53:46] itong 18x
[53:48] bodyguards
[53:49] sa hearing
[53:51] kapag
[53:52] fully
[53:52] constituted
[53:53] na yung
[53:53] committee.
[53:55] And dapat po,
[53:56] hindi nila
[53:57] baliwalain
[53:58] yung
[53:58] impitasyon
[53:58] ng
[53:59] committee
[53:59] dahil
[54:00] pag
[54:01] ginawa pa
[54:02] nila po
[54:02] iyon,
[54:03] magiging
[54:03] subject
[54:03] po sila
[54:04] sa
[54:04] subpina
[54:06] and show
[54:06] cause
[54:06] order
[54:07] at higit
[54:08] pa
[54:08] mula
[54:08] sa
[54:09] committee.
[54:10] Salamat po
[54:10] Mr.
[54:10] Chair.
[54:11] Noted po
[54:11] Senator
[54:12] Anteberos,
[54:13] gagawin po
[54:14] natin yan,
[54:14] pero for now
[54:15] kasi ang ginawa
[54:15] po natin
[54:16] ay inibitahan
[54:17] lamang
[54:17] natin
[54:18] dahil ito
[54:18] po ay
[54:18] isang
[54:19] meeting
[54:20] lamang
[54:20] at
[54:22] organizational
[54:22] meeting
[54:23] po
[54:23] ng Blue
[54:23] Ribbon
[54:23] Committee.
[54:25] Kaya po
[54:25] hindi po
[54:25] natin
[54:25] mapapwersa
[54:26] yung
[54:26] mga
[54:26] yun,
[54:27] pero
[54:27] inibitahan
[54:28] po rin
[54:28] natin
[54:28] gayon
[54:29] paman
[54:29] noong
[54:30] pong
[54:30] Merkules
[54:30] para
[54:31] walang
[54:31] masabi
[54:32] po
[54:32] yung
[54:32] kabilang
[54:32] grupo,
[54:33] yung
[54:34] Minority
[54:34] Block
[54:35] na
[54:35] iniiwas
[54:36] po natin
[54:37] at
[54:37] ayaw
[54:37] natin
[54:37] sila
[54:37] imbitahan.
[54:38] So for
[54:38] the record
[54:39] po,
[54:39] nabanggit
[54:40] po
[54:40] kanina
[54:40] ng
[54:41] sekretary
[54:41] at
[54:41] inibitahan
[54:42] po
[54:42] ang
[54:42] labing
[54:42] walo
[54:43] na
[54:43] ito
[54:43] kasama
[54:43] po
[54:43] si
[54:44] attorney
[54:44] Baligod.
[54:46] Subalit
[54:46] po
[54:46] hindi
[54:47] po
[54:47] sila
[54:48] at
[54:49] nagpahayag
[54:49] po
[54:49] sila
[54:50] kanina
[54:50] lamang
[54:51] na
[54:51] hindi
[54:51] po
[54:51] sila
[54:51] bawaba
[54:52] rito
[54:52] sila
[54:53] po
[54:53] ay
[54:53] bisita
[54:55] ni
[54:55] Senator
[54:56] Robin
[54:56] Padilla.
[54:58] Mr.
[55:05] mga
[55:06] kababayan
[55:06] kaya
[55:07] ito
[55:08] ay
[55:08] hindi
[55:08] hearing
[55:09] at
[55:10] ito
[55:10] ay
[55:11] committee
[55:12] meeting
[55:13] consultative
[55:14] meeting
[55:15] ay dahil
[55:15] kinikilala
[55:16] natin
[55:17] na
[55:18] hindi
[55:18] pa
[55:19] nahahalal
[55:19] ang
[55:20] lahat
[55:21] ng
[55:21] membro
[55:22] ng
[55:23] Committee
[55:23] on
[55:24] Public
[55:25] Accountability.
[55:26] At
[55:26] dahil
[55:26] hindi
[55:27] pa
[55:27] nahahalal
[55:27] lahat
[55:28] ng
[55:28] membro,
[55:29] hindi
[55:29] pa
[55:30] constituted
[55:31] ang
[55:31] committee.
[55:32] Although
[55:32] the
[55:34] chairperson
[55:34] has
[55:34] been
[55:35] elected
[55:36] and the
[55:37] chairperson
[55:37] as
[55:38] legislative
[55:39] practice
[55:40] will
[55:41] reveal
[55:42] has
[55:42] from
[55:43] time
[55:43] to
[55:43] time
[55:43] been
[55:44] allowed
[55:45] by
[55:45] practice
[55:46] to
[55:46] hold
[55:47] consultative
[55:47] meetings
[55:48] even
[55:49] if
[55:49] there
[55:50] is
[55:50] no
[55:50] quorum
[55:50] even
[55:51] if
[55:52] the
[55:52] committee
[55:52] has
[55:53] not
[55:53] been
[55:53] fully
[55:53] constituted.
[55:56] And
[55:56] also
[55:56] yes
[55:57] that
[55:57] is
[55:58] correct
[55:58] is
[55:58] empowered
[55:59] to
[55:59] designate
[56:00] a
[56:00] vice
[56:00] chairman.
[56:01] So
[56:01] in
[56:01] the
[56:01] meantime
[56:02] because
[56:03] we
[56:03] are
[56:03] have
[56:04] not
[56:05] out
[56:05] of
[56:05] respect
[56:06] for
[56:06] our
[56:07] colleagues
[56:07] in
[56:07] the
[56:08] minority
[56:08] this
[56:19] is
[56:19] in
[56:19] contrast
[56:20] to
[56:20] the
[56:21] previous
[56:21] bogus
[56:24] hearing
[56:25] last
[56:25] Thursday
[56:26] wherein
[56:27] the
[56:27] Blue
[56:28] Ribbon
[56:28] Committee
[56:28] precisely
[56:29] had
[56:29] been
[56:31] declared
[56:31] vacant
[56:32] and
[56:33] even
[56:33] before
[56:34] we
[56:34] removed
[56:35] the
[56:35] former
[56:37] Senate
[56:37] president
[56:38] they
[56:39] already
[56:39] sent out
[56:42] notices
[56:42] for that
[56:43] June
[56:44] 4
[56:44] hearing
[56:45] which
[56:46] again
[56:46] is an
[56:48] indication
[56:48] of their
[56:48] disregard
[56:49] for our
[56:50] rules
[56:50] in the
[56:52] Senate
[56:52] just
[56:53] for the
[56:54] record
[56:54] Mr.
[56:56] Chair
[56:56] person
[56:56] thank
[56:57] you
[56:57] for
[56:57] that
[56:58] clarification
[56:58] go ahead
[56:59] dagdag
[57:00] lamang
[57:00] po dun
[57:00] sa sinabi
[57:01] ni
[57:01] Vice
[57:02] Chair
[57:03] Kiko
[57:03] Mr.
[57:04] Chair
[57:04] in fact
[57:05] dun
[57:06] sa bogus
[57:06] hearing
[57:07] nagpakita
[57:08] at
[57:08] nagsalita
[57:09] yung
[57:09] 18x
[57:10] bodyguards
[57:11] at saka
[57:11] si
[57:12] Attorney
[57:12] Baligod
[57:13] so
[57:14] although
[57:14] of course
[57:15] I submit
[57:15] to what
[57:15] the
[57:16] Chair
[57:16] has
[57:16] said
[57:16] na
[57:17] hindi
[57:17] naman
[57:17] sila
[57:18] mapipilitang
[57:18] dumalo
[57:19] dito
[57:20] sa ating
[57:20] meeting
[57:21] bilang
[57:21] mga
[57:21] guests
[57:22] I
[57:22] think
[57:22] loss
[57:23] po
[57:23] sa
[57:23] kanila
[57:24] na
[57:24] hindi
[57:25] sila
[57:25] humarap
[57:25] sa
[57:26] committee
[57:26] hearing
[57:26] na
[57:26] ito
[57:27] para
[57:28] matanong
[57:28] din
[57:28] natin
[57:29] ibang
[57:30] mga
[57:30] senador
[57:31] and
[57:31] yung
[57:31] mga
[57:31] miyembro
[57:32] magiging
[57:33] miyembro
[57:33] ng
[57:34] committee
[57:35] once
[57:36] constituted
[57:36] dahil
[57:37] naghanda
[57:37] rin
[57:38] po tayo
[57:38] ng mga
[57:38] tanong
[57:39] sa
[57:39] kanila
[57:39] just
[57:40] for
[57:40] the
[57:40] record
[57:40] Mr.
[57:41] Chair
[57:41] Salamat
[57:41] po
[57:42] Mr. Chairman
[57:42] just to
[57:43] emphasize
[57:43] na yung
[57:44] June 3
[57:45] klarong
[57:46] klaro
[57:46] na
[57:47] noong
[57:48] din
[57:48] declare
[57:49] all
[57:49] seats
[57:49] vacant
[57:50] ang
[57:51] in-elect
[57:52] natin
[57:52] as
[57:52] chairman
[57:53] of the
[57:53] Blue
[57:53] Ribbon
[57:54] Committee
[57:54] ay
[57:55] no other
[57:55] than
[57:56] Senator
[57:57] Irwin
[57:57] Tulfo
[57:58] so
[57:58] siya
[57:59] lang
[57:59] ang
[57:59] may
[57:59] karapatan
[58:00] na
[58:00] tumawag
[58:00] ng
[58:00] ganitong
[58:01] consultative
[58:02] meeting
[58:02] at
[58:03] siya
[58:03] lang
[58:03] may
[58:03] karapatan
[58:04] para
[58:04] mag-issue
[58:05] ng
[58:05] invitations
[58:06] through
[58:07] the
[58:08] Blue
[58:08] Ribbon
[58:08] Secretariat
[58:09] so
[58:09] let
[58:09] me
[58:10] just
[58:10] put
[58:10] that
[58:10] on
[58:10] record
[58:11] thank
[58:12] you
[58:12] Mr.
[58:16] Senate
[58:16] Pro Tempore
[58:16] Acting
[58:17] President
[58:18] Wayne
[58:19] Kachala
[58:19] Clyde
[58:20] Attorney
[58:20] Matibag
[58:21] we
[58:22] approach
[58:22] there's
[58:24] an
[58:25] important
[58:25] thing
[58:25] that
[58:25] I
[58:26] want
[58:26] to
[58:26] relay
[58:26] sa
[58:26] inyo
[58:27] po
[58:27] pwede
[58:27] po
[58:27] lumapit
[58:28] dyan
[58:28] because
[58:29] I
[58:29] cannot
[58:29] say
[58:30] one
[58:31] minute
[58:31] suspension
[58:31] production
[58:31] but
[1:01:23] dame
[1:01:26] nang
[1:01:26] substantial
[1:01:27] pieces
[1:01:27] na wala
[1:01:29] sa kaso
[1:01:29] nito
[1:01:30] assertion
[1:01:31] at
[1:01:32] uncorroborated
[1:01:33] at
[1:01:33] kakamahapayan
[1:01:34] eh
[1:01:35] hindi
[1:01:35] nakakita
[1:01:36] ng
[1:01:36] public
[1:01:42] representation
[1:01:42] po tayo
[1:01:45] sa
[1:01:45] pagrebro
[1:01:46] nila
[1:01:46] ng
[1:01:46] eating
[1:01:47] Marines
[1:01:47] pinakilala
[1:01:49] ang
[1:01:49] grupo
[1:01:49] ng
[1:01:49] eating
[1:01:50] Marines
[1:01:50] na
[1:01:51] parang
[1:01:52] may
[1:01:52] darad
[1:01:52] ng
[1:01:52] integridad
[1:01:53] ng
[1:01:55] material
[1:01:56] facts
[1:01:59] next
[1:01:59] slide
[1:02:00] please
[1:02:00] public
[1:02:03] representation
[1:02:04] balik po
[1:02:05] tayo
[1:02:06] ron
[1:02:06] on the label of their 18 Marines.
[1:02:09] They have been recognized as a group as 18 Marines
[1:02:12] that has a lot of integrity.
[1:02:16] For example,
[1:02:16] using this label on the media
[1:02:18] to have a credibility of the group
[1:02:21] even if they are not a member of the Marines.
[1:02:25] In the report,
[1:02:26] the report published by Army Reserve Bs and Civilian
[1:02:29] at the group's popular narrative
[1:02:31] is not a record.
[1:02:33] It is not a record of actual record.
[1:02:35] But,
[1:02:37] we can see that the AFP and Marines
[1:02:39] are not allowed to call the 18 Marines
[1:02:43] and if they are not an honorable discharge,
[1:02:46] they are not considered to be a Marine Corps.
[1:02:50] Next slide, please.
[1:02:54] Next slide.
[1:02:58] Actual composition.
[1:02:59] In fact,
[1:03:00] it is not an honorable retired.
[1:03:02] If it is not an honorable discharge,
[1:03:04] it is not an honorable discharge.
[1:03:06] For example,
[1:03:06] the breakdown of the NBI
[1:03:07] tatlo lang ang honorably retired.
[1:03:11] Labindalawa ang dishonorably discharged
[1:03:14] at may RV reservis at civilian.
[1:03:17] Karamihan pa po rito
[1:03:18] ay mayroong mga naging kaso
[1:03:20] at mayroong isa
[1:03:21] na mayroong pang patuloy
[1:03:22] na dinidinig na kaso.
[1:03:24] Ang popular narrative
[1:03:25] na Marine Honor Code
[1:03:27] ay hindi tugma
[1:03:28] sa actual na record.
[1:03:29] Ang Philippine Marine Corps mismo
[1:03:31] ang nagsabing karamihan
[1:03:32] ay dishonorably discharged
[1:03:34] at maikli lamang ang servisyo.
[1:03:36] Mayroon po rito
[1:03:36] sampung buwan lang
[1:03:38] na nagservisyo sa Marine.
[1:03:40] Nag-awol na po.
[1:03:42] At ang karagnagan po rito
[1:03:44] para tawagin sila na Marines,
[1:03:48] matagal na po yung ibang wala
[1:03:49] sa Marine Service
[1:03:50] bago po na-recruit
[1:03:51] ng grupo po
[1:03:52] ni dating Congressman Saldico.
[1:03:54] Next slide, please.
[1:03:59] Effect of credibility.
[1:04:01] Nagkakaroon ng maling akala
[1:04:03] na lahat ay may mataas na integridad
[1:04:05] dahil sa titulo.
[1:04:06] Kahit hindi naman totoo.
[1:04:08] Halimbawa,
[1:04:09] ang publiko ay naniniwala
[1:04:10] na ang grupo ay may Marine values
[1:04:12] pero may mga miyembro
[1:04:13] na may record ng misconduct
[1:04:15] o hindi naman tunay na Marines.
[1:04:17] Sa report mismo
[1:04:18] ng Philippine Marine Corps
[1:04:19] ang nagsabing karamihan
[1:04:20] ay dishonorably discharged
[1:04:22] at maikli lamang ang servisyo.
[1:04:24] Ang invocation ng Marine Honor
[1:04:26] ay walang institutional basis
[1:04:27] sa grupo na ito.
[1:04:30] Next slide, please.
[1:04:33] Legal Impact of Title Marines.
[1:04:35] Sa korte,
[1:04:36] ebidensya ang malaga,
[1:04:38] hindi ang label o titulo.
[1:04:40] Kahit pa ex-Marine
[1:04:41] ang tawag
[1:04:41] kung walang sapat na ebidensya,
[1:04:43] hindi ito magpapalakas ng kaso.
[1:04:47] Courts rely on evidence,
[1:04:49] not on labels.
[1:04:51] Sa report,
[1:04:52] binanggit na ang invocation
[1:04:54] ng Marine Honor
[1:04:55] ay walang institutional basis
[1:04:56] sa grupo.
[1:04:57] Ang Supreme Court
[1:04:58] ay nagsabi
[1:04:59] ng probative value
[1:05:00] ay nakasalalay
[1:05:01] sa personal knowledge,
[1:05:02] hindi sa titulo
[1:05:03] o sa label.
[1:05:06] Next slide, please.
[1:05:09] Independent Recollection.
[1:05:11] Ang tunay
[1:05:12] na malakas na ebidensya
[1:05:14] ay galing
[1:05:14] sa sariling karanasan
[1:05:16] ng testigo.
[1:05:17] Halimbawa,
[1:05:18] kung ang testigo
[1:05:19] ay actual na nakakita
[1:05:20] at nakaranas
[1:05:21] ng kas delivery,
[1:05:23] mas malakas ang pahayag.
[1:05:24] Sa report,
[1:05:25] may ilang appiant
[1:05:26] na nagsabing
[1:05:26] nakita nila ang kas,
[1:05:28] pero karimian
[1:05:29] ay umasa lamang
[1:05:30] sa kwento ng iba.
[1:05:31] Ang logistics
[1:05:32] ng operation
[1:05:33] ay corroborated,
[1:05:34] pero ang core allegation
[1:05:36] na kas ay laman
[1:05:37] ng maleta
[1:05:38] ay madalas
[1:05:39] na hearsay lamang.
[1:05:41] Next slide, please.
[1:05:42] Pinagsama-sama
[1:05:51] ang pahayag
[1:05:51] ng grupo
[1:05:52] sa isang abidibit.
[1:05:53] Halimbawa,
[1:05:54] may mga miyembro
[1:05:55] na hindi alam
[1:05:55] ang buong kwento,
[1:05:57] pero isinama
[1:05:58] ang kanilang pahayag
[1:05:59] sa collective narrative.
[1:06:01] Sa report mismo
[1:06:01] ng appiant
[1:06:02] ng nasabing
[1:06:03] hinalo-halo
[1:06:03] ang abidibit
[1:06:04] at binoo
[1:06:05] ng kansel
[1:06:07] na si Atty.
[1:06:08] Baligod,
[1:06:08] ang collective execution
[1:06:10] ay hindi
[1:06:10] nagko-convert
[1:06:11] ng hearsay
[1:06:12] sa personal knowledge.
[1:06:15] Next slide, please.
[1:06:16] May palatandaan
[1:06:23] ng koordinasyon
[1:06:24] ng group discussions,
[1:06:25] shared preparation.
[1:06:27] Halimbawa,
[1:06:27] bago gumawa
[1:06:28] ng abidibit,
[1:06:29] nagkaroon ng group meeting
[1:06:30] para pag-usapan
[1:06:32] ng mga sasabihin.
[1:06:33] Sa report na binanggit
[1:06:34] na ang abidibit
[1:06:35] ay produkto
[1:06:36] ng collective briefing,
[1:06:38] common housing
[1:06:39] at cancel-assembled content,
[1:06:41] ang appiant
[1:06:42] ay house
[1:06:43] sa cancel unit
[1:06:44] na may real-time
[1:06:45] coaching interview.
[1:06:46] Anong ibig sabihin po nito?
[1:06:48] Mula,
[1:06:49] mayroon pong testimonya doon
[1:06:50] na November pa lang
[1:06:51] magkakasama na sila
[1:06:53] at inilabas po
[1:06:54] yung testimonya
[1:06:54] February.
[1:06:55] Ang ibig sabihin po nito,
[1:06:57] bumuo sila ng
[1:06:58] naratibo.
[1:07:00] So,
[1:07:01] ang nangyari po kasi rito,
[1:07:03] yung si Buduan,
[1:07:04] siya ang nilapitan
[1:07:06] ni Atty.
[1:07:07] Baligod.
[1:07:07] Please take note
[1:07:08] na hindi po sila
[1:07:09] ang lumapit
[1:07:09] kay Atty.
[1:07:10] Baligod,
[1:07:11] kundi si Atty.
[1:07:12] Baligod,
[1:07:12] lumapit kay Buduan.
[1:07:14] At si Buduan
[1:07:15] ang nag-recruit
[1:07:16] ng mga sasama po rito.
[1:07:18] Ano pong palatandaan
[1:07:19] itong
[1:07:19] na-coordinated,
[1:07:22] sinasabi naman nila
[1:07:22] lahat sila
[1:07:23] nang galing doon
[1:07:24] sa White Plains,
[1:07:25] doon po sila,
[1:07:25] magkakasama po sila.
[1:07:27] Tapos,
[1:07:28] inamin din,
[1:07:29] may umamin din
[1:07:30] na may nagbibigay
[1:07:30] ng pera
[1:07:31] parang allowance
[1:07:32] si Atty.
[1:07:33] Baligod.
[1:07:34] Kung tutuusin nga po
[1:07:35] sa aming mga abugado,
[1:07:36] ito po ay violation
[1:07:38] ng Code of Professional
[1:07:39] Responsibility and Accountability.
[1:07:41] Sapagkat bilang
[1:07:42] isang abugado ka,
[1:07:43] hindi ka maaaring
[1:07:44] dapat magbigay
[1:07:45] ng financial consideration.
[1:07:47] Papasok po ito
[1:07:48] sa tinatawag
[1:07:48] na champertubus contract
[1:07:50] na maaaring
[1:07:50] merong kang inaasahan
[1:07:51] kapalit
[1:07:52] sa pagtulong mo
[1:07:53] sa iyong abugado.
[1:07:54] Magkaiba po ito
[1:07:55] doon sa tinatawag
[1:07:56] na contingent basis
[1:07:57] na agreement
[1:07:59] ng pagiging abugado.
[1:08:02] Sinabidad po mismo,
[1:08:03] halimbawa,
[1:08:04] specific example,
[1:08:05] that Baligod suggested
[1:08:06] to Buduan
[1:08:07] that 18 should
[1:08:08] disturb in Baligod's residence.
[1:08:10] So, in-offer po talaga
[1:08:11] yung tirahan.
[1:08:12] Meron po talagang
[1:08:13] pag-aalok
[1:08:14] na pumunta po.
[1:08:17] At si Buduan po
[1:08:18] is one of those
[1:08:19] who are dishonorably discharged.
[1:08:22] Ang kaso po niya rito,
[1:08:23] corruption eh,
[1:08:24] ito si Buduan.
[1:08:25] Siya po ay isang kasama
[1:08:26] doon sa volunteer
[1:08:27] doon sa Golan,
[1:08:28] yung peacekeeping po
[1:08:29] na pinadala natin.
[1:08:30] So, meron po kaming
[1:08:31] halimbawa lang po yun,
[1:08:33] ang NBI po
[1:08:33] ay may record,
[1:08:34] service record
[1:08:35] ng lahat po
[1:08:36] ng labing walong ito.
[1:08:38] Next slide, please.
[1:08:41] Legal Implication.
[1:08:42] Ayon sa batas,
[1:08:43] kapag coordinated
[1:08:44] ang testimonya,
[1:08:45] bumababa
[1:08:46] ang probative
[1:08:47] value nito.
[1:08:49] Halimbawa,
[1:08:50] kung pare-pareho
[1:08:50] ang wording ng
[1:08:51] Avinibit,
[1:08:52] maaaring indikasyon
[1:08:53] ng coaching
[1:08:54] o collusion.
[1:08:56] Coordinated testimony
[1:08:57] reduces
[1:08:58] probative value.
[1:08:59] Sa report
[1:09:00] na binanggit
[1:09:01] ng Supreme Court
[1:09:03] na doktry
[1:09:04] ng coordinated
[1:09:04] testimony
[1:09:05] ay may
[1:09:06] diminish rate,
[1:09:07] ang collective narrative
[1:09:08] ay hindi reliable
[1:09:09] marker
[1:09:11] ng independent
[1:09:11] testimonial
[1:09:12] reliability.
[1:09:15] When multiple witnesses
[1:09:17] function
[1:09:17] like synchronized
[1:09:19] recorders,
[1:09:20] the testimony
[1:09:20] fails the test
[1:09:21] of personal
[1:09:22] knowledge
[1:09:23] and perception
[1:09:24] required under
[1:09:25] Rule 130,
[1:09:26] Section 37
[1:09:27] of the rules
[1:09:28] of court.
[1:09:29] Because the court
[1:09:30] cannot determine
[1:09:31] where the real
[1:09:32] observation ends
[1:09:33] and the script
[1:09:35] begins.
[1:09:36] The probative value
[1:09:37] of the synchronized
[1:09:38] statement
[1:09:38] are discarded
[1:09:39] entirely.
[1:09:40] Ito po ay decided
[1:09:42] case na
[1:09:42] ng Supreme Court
[1:09:43] sa People
[1:09:44] versus Centeno.
[1:09:45] The Supreme Court
[1:09:46] explicitly stated
[1:09:48] that perfect symmetry
[1:09:49] among testimony
[1:09:51] does not
[1:09:51] inspire belief.
[1:09:53] Instead,
[1:09:54] it breeds suspicion
[1:09:55] that the testimonies
[1:09:57] were rehearsed
[1:09:58] or concocted.
[1:10:01] Next slide,
[1:10:02] please.
[1:10:04] Key distinction
[1:10:05] between independent
[1:10:07] and collective.
[1:10:08] Attorney Matibag,
[1:10:09] I'm sorry for interrupting.
[1:10:11] How many more minutes
[1:10:12] do we have?
[1:10:12] I'm about to wrap up
[1:10:14] three slides na lang po.
[1:10:15] Okay, thank you.
[1:10:17] Independent,
[1:10:18] malakas na ebidensya,
[1:10:20] collective, mahina.
[1:10:21] Ang independent
[1:10:22] recollection
[1:10:23] ay personal
[1:10:24] na karanasan,
[1:10:25] samantalang
[1:10:26] ang collective narrative
[1:10:27] ay pinaghalo-halong
[1:10:28] kwento ng grupo.
[1:10:31] Sa report,
[1:10:31] lumalabas ng logistics
[1:10:33] ng operation
[1:10:34] ay corroborated,
[1:10:35] pero ang core
[1:10:36] allegation
[1:10:37] na kas ang laman
[1:10:38] ng maleta
[1:10:38] ay madalas
[1:10:39] hearsay lamang.
[1:10:40] Next slide,
[1:10:41] please.
[1:10:45] Integrated
[1:10:46] findings,
[1:10:46] weak evidence,
[1:10:47] misleading title,
[1:10:49] non-independent testimony.
[1:10:50] Tatlong issue,
[1:10:52] mahina ang ebidensya.
[1:10:54] Misleading ang title
[1:10:55] at hindi independent
[1:10:56] ng testimonya.
[1:10:57] Ang apinibit
[1:10:58] ay hindi sapat.
[1:10:59] Ang ex-marine
[1:11:00] ay misleading
[1:11:01] at ang testimonya
[1:11:02] ay coordinated.
[1:11:04] Sa report,
[1:11:05] binanggit na walang
[1:11:06] credible witness
[1:11:07] na makapapatunay
[1:11:08] ng buong
[1:11:09] allegation
[1:11:10] at photographic
[1:11:11] evidence
[1:11:12] ay compromise.
[1:11:13] Ang political
[1:11:14] context,
[1:11:15] ang kaso
[1:11:16] na nagpapakita
[1:11:17] na coordinated
[1:11:18] ang operation,
[1:11:19] hindi independent
[1:11:20] whistleblowing.
[1:11:21] Ano pong ibig sabihin
[1:11:22] ito?
[1:11:23] Dahil kinocoach,
[1:11:24] depende po
[1:11:25] sa political
[1:11:26] perception
[1:11:28] or political
[1:11:28] belief
[1:11:29] ng tao.
[1:11:31] Ang halimbawa
[1:11:31] na nga po rito
[1:11:32] sa mga unang
[1:11:33] lumabas na
[1:11:33] abinibit,
[1:11:34] binabanggit po
[1:11:34] yung dalawang
[1:11:35] senador,
[1:11:36] pero nung
[1:11:36] nag-iba na yung
[1:11:37] alyansa
[1:11:38] ng senador,
[1:11:38] iba na po
[1:11:39] yung abinibit
[1:11:40] at may mga
[1:11:40] dadagdag pa po
[1:11:41] na personalidad.
[1:11:42] Last slide
[1:11:44] na po.
[1:11:47] Ano po ang
[1:11:47] konklusyon
[1:11:48] dito po sa aming
[1:11:49] ginawang
[1:11:49] pag-iimbestiga?
[1:11:51] Hindi
[1:11:51] napatunayan
[1:11:52] ng mga
[1:11:52] allegation
[1:11:53] base sa
[1:11:53] ebidensyang
[1:11:54] iniharap.
[1:11:55] Walang
[1:11:55] sapat na
[1:11:56] personal
[1:11:56] knowledge,
[1:11:57] puro
[1:11:57] hearsay,
[1:11:58] walang
[1:11:59] corroboration
[1:11:59] at
[1:12:00] coordinated
[1:12:00] ang
[1:12:01] narrative.
[1:12:02] Ang
[1:12:02] abinibit
[1:12:03] ay hindi
[1:12:03] sapat
[1:12:04] na
[1:12:04] basihan
[1:12:04] para
[1:12:05] mag-pile
[1:12:05] ng
[1:12:05] kaso.
[1:12:06] Sa
[1:12:06] report,
[1:12:07] binanggit
[1:12:07] ng
[1:12:08] joint
[1:12:08] abinibit
[1:12:09] ay hindi
[1:12:09] self-sufficient
[1:12:10] basis
[1:12:10] for probable
[1:12:11] cause
[1:12:12] at
[1:12:13] bawat
[1:12:13] allegation
[1:12:14] ay
[1:12:14] dapat
[1:12:14] ay
[1:12:15] independent,
[1:12:16] competent
[1:12:16] at
[1:12:17] authenticated
[1:12:17] evidence.
[1:12:19] Ang
[1:12:19] tanong
[1:12:19] ay hindi
[1:12:19] kong
[1:12:20] possible
[1:12:20] ang
[1:12:20] pangyari
[1:12:21] kundi
[1:12:22] napatunayan
[1:12:23] sila
[1:12:23] batay
[1:12:24] sa
[1:12:24] ebidensya
[1:12:24] at
[1:12:25] ang
[1:12:25] kasong
[1:12:25] ito
[1:12:26] hindi
[1:12:26] nila
[1:12:27] napatunayan.
[1:12:28] Maraming
[1:12:28] salamat
[1:12:29] po and
[1:12:29] we can
[1:12:29] submit
[1:12:30] the full
[1:12:30] report
[1:12:31] to the
[1:12:31] committee.
[1:12:32] Thank
[1:12:33] you.
[1:12:34] Yes,
[1:12:34] and
[1:12:35] just
[1:12:36] an
[1:12:36] administrative
[1:12:37] matter
[1:12:37] to
[1:12:37] the
[1:12:38] director.
[1:12:39] The
[1:12:39] report
[1:12:39] please
[1:12:40] and
[1:12:40] the
[1:12:40] attachments
[1:12:41] including
[1:12:41] the
[1:12:41] affidavits
[1:12:42] of the
[1:12:43] six
[1:12:44] or
[1:12:44] five
[1:12:45] money.
[1:12:46] Five po yung
[1:12:46] pumirma po.
[1:12:47] Yes.
[1:12:47] Pero we're able
[1:12:48] to get
[1:12:48] everyone
[1:12:49] na
[1:12:50] recorded
[1:12:50] po ito.
[1:12:51] So
[1:12:51] the
[1:12:52] report
[1:12:52] plus
[1:12:53] the
[1:12:53] attachments
[1:12:53] so
[1:12:54] that
[1:12:54] we
[1:12:54] have
[1:12:55] a
[1:12:55] full
[1:12:55] appreciation
[1:12:56] of
[1:12:56] your
[1:12:57] documents.
[1:12:57] Thank
[1:12:58] you,
[1:12:58] Mr.
[1:12:59] Chairman.
[1:12:59] Thank
[1:13:00] you,
[1:13:00] Attorney
[1:13:00] Senator
[1:13:02] Pangilinan.
[1:13:03] Do you
[1:13:05] have
[1:13:05] any
[1:13:06] presentations
[1:13:06] or
[1:13:07] opening
[1:13:07] statement?
[1:13:08] Please
[1:13:08] make it
[1:13:09] brief
[1:13:09] our
[1:13:11] invited
[1:13:12] guests.
[1:13:12] The
[1:13:13] Prosecutor
[1:13:14] General
[1:13:15] Padulion.
[1:13:19] Good
[1:13:19] morning,
[1:13:19] Mr.
[1:13:19] Chair.
[1:13:20] Good
[1:13:20] morning,
[1:13:21] Honorable
[1:13:21] Senators
[1:13:21] and members
[1:13:22] of the
[1:13:22] committee.
[1:13:23] We do
[1:13:23] not have
[1:13:23] a
[1:13:23] presentation,
[1:13:24] Mr.
[1:13:24] Chair,
[1:13:25] although we
[1:13:25] have a
[1:13:26] report on
[1:13:27] the status
[1:13:27] of the
[1:13:27] cases that
[1:13:28] have been
[1:13:28] filed and
[1:13:29] investigated by
[1:13:30] the Department
[1:13:30] of Justice.
[1:13:32] As of
[1:13:32] June 5,
[1:13:33] 2026,
[1:13:34] there were
[1:13:34] 14 cases
[1:13:35] which were
[1:13:35] endorsed to
[1:13:36] the Department
[1:13:37] of Justice
[1:13:37] for preliminary
[1:13:38] investigation.
[1:13:40] 13 of
[1:13:41] these have
[1:13:41] been endorsed
[1:13:42] already or
[1:13:42] have been
[1:13:43] resolved and
[1:13:43] have been
[1:13:43] endorsed to
[1:13:44] the Office
[1:13:44] of the
[1:13:45] Ombudsman
[1:13:45] for approval.
[1:13:46] Some of
[1:13:47] them have
[1:13:47] already been
[1:13:47] approved and
[1:13:48] in fact,
[1:13:49] some of the
[1:13:49] cases have
[1:13:50] already been
[1:13:50] filed before
[1:13:51] the appropriate
[1:13:51] courts.
[1:13:53] The
[1:13:53] remaining case
[1:13:54] before the
[1:13:54] Department
[1:13:54] of Justice
[1:13:55] is one
[1:13:56] involving
[1:13:56] former
[1:13:57] Senator
[1:13:57] Bong
[1:13:58] Revillia
[1:13:58] Roberto
[1:14:00] Bernardo,
[1:14:01] Gerard
[1:14:02] Opelensia,
[1:14:03] Henry
[1:14:03] Alcantara,
[1:14:04] Corona,
[1:14:05] Manny
[1:14:05] Bolosan,
[1:14:06] Ruel
[1:14:06] Umali,
[1:14:07] Arturo
[1:14:08] Gonzales for
[1:14:08] violation of
[1:14:09] Republic
[1:14:10] Act 3019
[1:14:11] or the
[1:14:12] Anti-Graft and
[1:14:13] Corrupt
[1:14:13] Practices
[1:14:14] Act,
[1:14:14] plunder under
[1:14:15] Republic
[1:14:16] Act 7080
[1:14:17] and
[1:14:18] Article
[1:14:20] 210 of
[1:14:21] the Revised
[1:14:21] Penal Code.
[1:14:22] This case
[1:14:23] is now
[1:14:23] just being
[1:14:24] edited
[1:14:24] before it
[1:14:25] will be
[1:14:25] subjected
[1:14:26] for review
[1:14:27] and then
[1:14:27] for final
[1:14:28] approval.
[1:14:29] Apart from
[1:14:29] these cases,
[1:14:30] Mr. Chair,
[1:14:31] there are
[1:14:32] also Bureau
[1:14:33] of Internal
[1:14:34] Revenue
[1:14:34] cases that
[1:14:35] were filed
[1:14:35] against several
[1:14:36] personalities.
[1:14:38] There were
[1:14:38] 20 BIR
[1:14:39] cases filed
[1:14:40] with the
[1:14:40] Department
[1:14:40] of Justice
[1:14:41] from 2025
[1:14:42] to 2026.
[1:14:44] Of these
[1:14:44] cases,
[1:14:45] seven have
[1:14:45] already been
[1:14:46] filed in the
[1:14:48] corresponding
[1:14:49] information filed
[1:14:50] in court.
[1:14:51] Twelve have
[1:14:51] been dismissed
[1:14:52] and one
[1:14:53] is submitted
[1:14:53] for resolution.
[1:14:54] The remaining
[1:14:55] case is the
[1:14:55] one which
[1:14:56] involves
[1:14:57] Mark
[1:14:58] Alan
[1:14:59] Villamore
[1:14:59] Arevalo
[1:15:00] of
[1:15:00] Wawao
[1:15:01] Builders
[1:15:01] for violation
[1:15:02] of Section
[1:15:03] 254
[1:15:04] and 255
[1:15:05] of the
[1:15:05] National
[1:15:05] Internal
[1:15:06] Revenue
[1:15:06] Code
[1:15:07] of 1997.
[1:15:09] Also,
[1:15:10] we would
[1:15:10] like to
[1:15:10] report,
[1:15:11] Mr. Chair,
[1:15:12] that as
[1:15:12] of today,
[1:15:14] covered by
[1:15:15] the
[1:15:15] Witness
[1:15:15] Protection
[1:15:16] Program
[1:15:16] of the
[1:15:17] Department
[1:15:17] of Justice
[1:15:18] are seven
[1:15:19] personalities,
[1:15:21] namely,
[1:15:22] Yusek
[1:15:23] Roberto
[1:15:23] Bernardo,
[1:15:24] Engineer
[1:15:25] Henry
[1:15:25] Alcantara,
[1:15:26] Engineer
[1:15:27] Gerard
[1:15:27] Opalencia,
[1:15:28] Sally
[1:15:29] Santos,
[1:15:30] Monica
[1:15:30] Santos,
[1:15:32] Virgil
[1:15:32] Nino
[1:15:32] Garcia,
[1:15:33] and
[1:15:33] Francisco
[1:15:34] De La
[1:15:34] Fuente,
[1:15:35] Jr.
[1:15:35] And
[1:15:36] Lastly,
[1:15:37] we would
[1:15:37] like to
[1:15:37] report,
[1:15:38] Mr.
[1:15:38] Chair,
[1:15:39] that as
[1:15:39] of today,
[1:15:43] the amount
[1:15:43] of people's
[1:15:45] money recovered
[1:15:45] and have
[1:15:46] been turned
[1:15:46] over to
[1:15:47] the
[1:15:47] land bank
[1:15:48] totals
[1:15:49] 841,381,500,000.
[1:15:55] That's all
[1:15:56] for the
[1:15:56] Department
[1:15:57] of Justice,
[1:15:57] Mr.
[1:15:58] Chair.
[1:15:58] Thank you.
[1:15:58] Thank you,
[1:15:59] Prosecutor General
[1:16:00] Fadulian.
[1:16:01] Just one
[1:16:01] quick question.
[1:16:02] Ito pong
[1:16:03] pagka-file
[1:16:03] po ninyo
[1:16:04] ng mga kaso.
[1:16:05] Where did
[1:16:05] this come from?
[1:16:06] Is this the
[1:16:06] result of the
[1:16:07] Blue Ribbon
[1:16:08] hearing previous
[1:16:09] weeks and
[1:16:09] months?
[1:16:10] Well,
[1:16:11] part of it,
[1:16:11] sir,
[1:16:12] were as a
[1:16:13] result of
[1:16:14] the investigation
[1:16:15] or the
[1:16:16] hearings before
[1:16:17] the Senate
[1:16:18] Blue Ribbon
[1:16:18] Committee,
[1:16:19] which were
[1:16:20] followed up
[1:16:21] by the
[1:16:21] Department
[1:16:21] and by the
[1:16:22] National Bureau
[1:16:23] of Investigation,
[1:16:24] as a consequence
[1:16:24] of which cases
[1:16:25] were filed
[1:16:26] with the
[1:16:26] Department,
[1:16:27] and the
[1:16:28] same were
[1:16:29] the ones
[1:16:29] subjected
[1:16:29] to preliminary
[1:16:30] investigation,
[1:16:31] sir.
[1:16:32] Thank you,
[1:16:33] Prosecutor General
[1:16:34] Fadulian.
[1:16:36] We now move
[1:16:36] to the
[1:16:37] Office of
[1:16:37] the Ombudsman,
[1:16:38] Attorney
[1:16:38] Ravello
[1:16:39] or
[1:16:39] Attorney
[1:16:40] Batu.
[1:16:41] Do you have
[1:16:42] any presentation
[1:16:43] or opening
[1:16:44] statement?
[1:16:45] Good morning,
[1:16:47] Your Honor.
[1:16:49] Good morning,
[1:16:49] Honorable
[1:16:50] Chairperson.
[1:16:51] Wala po
[1:16:52] coming
[1:16:53] presentation,
[1:16:54] but we
[1:16:54] also have
[1:16:55] a report.
[1:16:56] Without
[1:16:56] going into
[1:16:57] details,
[1:16:58] doing so
[1:16:59] might
[1:17:00] jeopardize
[1:17:00] our
[1:17:00] ongoing
[1:17:01] investigations,
[1:17:02] but I'm
[1:17:04] going to
[1:17:04] report on
[1:17:05] the
[1:17:05] complaints
[1:17:07] received by
[1:17:08] our
[1:17:08] office
[1:17:09] from
[1:17:09] 2025
[1:17:10] and
[1:17:10] to
[1:17:10] 2026.
[1:17:12] So
[1:17:12] for
[1:17:13] 2025,
[1:17:14] we have
[1:17:15] cases
[1:17:16] under
[1:17:17] packfinding
[1:17:17] investigation
[1:17:18] totaling
[1:17:19] to
[1:17:19] 124
[1:17:21] and
[1:17:21] for
[1:17:22] 2026
[1:17:23] meron po
[1:17:23] kaming
[1:17:23] packfinding
[1:17:25] investigation
[1:17:26] totaling
[1:17:27] to
[1:17:27] 209
[1:17:28] and
[1:17:29] meron
[1:17:29] din po
[1:17:30] kaming
[1:17:30] undergoing
[1:17:30] preliminary
[1:17:31] investigation
[1:17:32] and
[1:17:32] administrative
[1:17:33] adjudication
[1:17:34] for
[1:17:34] 2025,
[1:17:36] 29
[1:17:36] po
[1:17:37] yun
[1:17:37] and
[1:17:37] 2026
[1:17:38] meron pong
[1:17:39] lima.
[1:17:39] As
[1:17:40] to
[1:17:40] the
[1:17:40] cases
[1:17:40] filed
[1:17:41] in
[1:17:41] courts
[1:17:41] for
[1:17:43] 2025
[1:17:43] meron pong
[1:17:44] isang
[1:17:44] na
[1:17:44] file
[1:17:44] sa
[1:17:45] lower
[1:17:46] court
[1:17:46] and
[1:17:47] then
[1:17:47] for
[1:17:47] 2026
[1:17:48] tatlo po
[1:17:49] dalawa
[1:17:49] sa
[1:17:49] Sandigan
[1:17:50] Bayan
[1:17:50] and
[1:17:50] one
[1:17:50] with
[1:17:51] the
[1:17:51] lower
[1:17:51] court.
[1:17:53] Attorney
[1:17:53] Bato,
[1:17:54] quick
[1:17:55] question
[1:17:55] lang
[1:17:56] kasi
[1:17:56] the
[1:17:56] people
[1:17:57] are
[1:17:57] wondering
[1:17:57] parang
[1:17:58] sobrang
[1:17:59] bagal
[1:17:59] umusad.
[1:18:00] I
[1:18:01] mean
[1:18:01] the
[1:18:01] Ombudsman,
[1:18:01] the
[1:18:01] Office
[1:18:02] of the
[1:18:02] Ombudsman,
[1:18:02] even
[1:18:03] the
[1:18:03] Office
[1:18:03] of the
[1:18:03] President
[1:18:03] was
[1:18:04] saying
[1:18:04] that
[1:18:05] people
[1:18:05] are
[1:18:05] waiting
[1:18:10] Wala
[1:18:11] pong
[1:18:11] lumalabas
[1:18:12] isa
[1:18:12] palama
[1:18:13] po
[1:18:13] nalabasan
[1:18:13] ng
[1:18:13] warrant
[1:18:14] actually
[1:18:14] dalawa
[1:18:14] pa
[1:18:15] lang
[1:18:15] former
[1:18:15] Senator
[1:18:16] Revilla
[1:18:17] and
[1:18:17] then
[1:18:17] Senator
[1:18:17] Jingoy
[1:18:18] the
[1:18:18] question
[1:18:19] now
[1:18:19] the
[1:18:19] people
[1:18:19] is
[1:18:20] like
[1:18:20] kailan
[1:18:20] po
[1:18:20] kaya
[1:18:21] lalabas
[1:18:21] yung
[1:18:21] ibang
[1:18:21] mga
[1:18:22] warrants
[1:18:22] meron
[1:18:22] na
[1:18:23] bubang
[1:18:23] palabas
[1:18:24] because
[1:18:24] we keep
[1:18:25] on
[1:18:25] investigating
[1:18:26] we keep
[1:18:26] on
[1:18:26] parang
[1:18:27] puro
[1:18:27] tay
[1:18:28] kwento
[1:18:28] pero
[1:18:28] ala
[1:18:28] nang
[1:18:29] nang
[1:18:29] nangyayari
[1:18:30] kaya
[1:18:30] people
[1:18:31] are
[1:18:31] really
[1:18:31] waiting
[1:18:32] if
[1:18:32] this
[1:18:32] government
[1:18:33] is
[1:18:33] serious
[1:18:34] in
[1:18:34] its
[1:18:34] investigation
[1:18:35] may
[1:18:36] mangyayari
[1:18:37] then
[1:18:37] can we
[1:18:38] expect
[1:18:38] soon
[1:18:39] meron
[1:18:39] po
[1:18:40] mga
[1:18:40] arrest
[1:18:41] warrants
[1:18:41] the
[1:18:42] Sandigan
[1:18:42] Bayan
[1:18:42] will
[1:18:43] issue
[1:18:43] from
[1:18:44] your
[1:18:44] office
[1:18:44] Attorney
[1:18:45] Batu
[1:18:48] Your
[1:18:48] Honor
[1:18:48] as
[1:18:49] these
[1:18:50] cases
[1:18:50] are
[1:18:50] already
[1:18:51] undergoing
[1:18:51] preliminary
[1:18:52] investigation
[1:18:53] and
[1:18:54] administrative
[1:18:54] adjudication
[1:18:55] before
[1:18:56] we're
[1:18:56] going
[1:18:56] to
[1:18:56] file
[1:18:57] the
[1:18:57] necessary
[1:18:58] information
[1:18:58] with
[1:18:59] the
[1:18:59] appropriate
[1:18:59] court
[1:19:00] so
[1:19:00] I'm
[1:19:03] not
[1:19:03] at
[1:19:03] liberty
[1:19:03] to
[1:19:04] say
[1:19:04] kung
[1:19:04] profiling
[1:19:07] sa
[1:19:07] courts
[1:19:07] or
[1:19:07] kung
[1:19:10] sino-sino
[1:19:10] yung
[1:19:10] profiling
[1:19:11] ng
[1:19:12] information
[1:19:13] sa
[1:19:13] courts
[1:19:13] Go ahead
[1:19:16] Senator
[1:19:17] Baum
[1:19:18] Maraming
[1:19:18] salamat
[1:19:19] Mr.
[1:19:19] Chairman
[1:19:19] This
[1:19:20] question
[1:19:20] is for
[1:19:21] the
[1:19:21] Ombudsman
[1:19:21] Ito
[1:19:22] pong
[1:19:23] mga
[1:19:23] affidavits
[1:19:24] ng
[1:19:24] ating
[1:19:25] 18
[1:19:26] former
[1:19:27] bodyguards
[1:19:27] po
[1:19:28] ni
[1:19:28] Zaldico
[1:19:28] Ito
[1:19:29] po
[1:19:29] ba
[1:19:29] iniimbestigan
[1:19:30] rin
[1:19:30] po
[1:19:30] ninyo
[1:19:31] Kasama
[1:19:31] ba
[1:19:32] ito
[1:19:32] sa
[1:19:32] nabanggit
[1:19:32] nyong
[1:19:33] for
[1:19:33] fact
[1:19:34] finding
[1:19:34] or
[1:19:34] preliminary
[1:19:35] investigation
[1:19:36] I'm
[1:19:38] not
[1:19:38] at
[1:19:38] any
[1:19:38] liberty
[1:19:39] to
[1:19:40] say
[1:19:40] that
[1:19:40] pero
[1:19:41] from
[1:19:42] what
[1:19:42] I
[1:19:43] know
[1:19:43] from
[1:19:43] my
[1:19:44] personal
[1:19:44] knowledge
[1:19:45] kasi
[1:19:45] ako po
[1:19:46] yung
[1:19:46] OIC
[1:19:46] ng
[1:19:47] Central
[1:19:47] Records
[1:19:48] Division
[1:19:48] when
[1:19:49] all
[1:19:50] documents
[1:19:50] addressed
[1:19:51] to
[1:19:51] the
[1:19:51] Ombudsman
[1:19:52] or filed
[1:19:52] with the
[1:19:52] Office
[1:19:53] of the
[1:19:53] Ombudsman
[1:19:54] usually
[1:19:54] undergo
[1:19:55] evaluation
[1:19:55] po
[1:19:56] kasi
[1:19:56] So
[1:19:57] when
[1:19:57] it
[1:19:57] was
[1:19:57] evaluated
[1:19:58] by
[1:19:58] our
[1:19:59] lawyer
[1:19:59] evaluators
[1:20:00] and
[1:20:00] reviewed
[1:20:01] and
[1:20:01] approved
[1:20:01] by
[1:20:02] our
[1:20:02] officials
[1:20:02] we
[1:20:04] sent
[1:20:04] a
[1:20:04] notice
[1:20:05] to
[1:20:05] Attorney
[1:20:08] Baligol
[1:20:08] saying
[1:20:09] that
[1:20:10] what
[1:20:11] the
[1:20:11] office
[1:20:11] requires
[1:20:12] is
[1:20:12] yung
[1:20:14] tigi-isa
[1:20:15] pong
[1:20:15] affidavit
[1:20:16] for the
[1:20:17] Marines
[1:20:17] to
[1:20:18] declare
[1:20:18] or to
[1:20:19] state
[1:20:19] their
[1:20:19] personal
[1:20:20] knowledge
[1:20:20] dun
[1:20:21] sa
[1:20:21] mga
[1:20:21] statements
[1:20:22] hindi
[1:20:22] po
[1:20:22] yung
[1:20:22] kollektivo
[1:20:23] yes
[1:20:24] kasi
[1:20:25] parang
[1:20:25] collective
[1:20:26] isa
[1:20:26] lang po
[1:20:27] yung
[1:20:27] joint
[1:20:28] affidavit
[1:20:28] nilang
[1:20:29] lahat
[1:20:29] so
[1:20:29] when
[1:20:30] it
[1:20:30] was
[1:20:30] evaluated
[1:20:30] sabi
[1:20:32] po
[1:20:32] nung
[1:20:32] lawyer
[1:20:33] evaluator
[1:20:33] namin
[1:20:35] and
[1:20:35] then
[1:20:35] it
[1:20:36] was
[1:20:36] reviewed
[1:20:36] and
[1:20:36] approved
[1:20:36] by
[1:20:37] our
[1:20:37] officials
[1:20:37] na
[1:20:38] parang
[1:20:38] hindi
[1:20:39] pwedeng
[1:20:40] lahat
[1:20:40] sila
[1:20:41] iisa
[1:20:41] lang
[1:20:41] ang
[1:20:41] sinasabi
[1:20:42] kasi
[1:20:42] yung
[1:20:43] mga
[1:20:43] sinasabi
[1:20:43] nilang
[1:20:44] dinala
[1:20:44] nila
[1:20:44] ilan
[1:20:45] lang
[1:20:45] naman
[1:20:46] do
[1:20:46] nang
[1:20:46] present
[1:20:47] so
[1:20:47] others
[1:20:48] hindi
[1:20:48] naman
[1:20:48] din
[1:20:48] present
[1:20:49] so
[1:20:49] they
[1:20:49] cannot
[1:20:49] have
[1:20:50] a
[1:20:50] collective
[1:20:51] affidavit
[1:20:51] okay
[1:20:52] so
[1:20:52] kung
[1:20:52] kumbaga
[1:20:52] po
[1:20:53] sinaseryoso
[1:20:56] ninyo
[1:20:56] itong
[1:20:56] mga
[1:20:56] allegasyon
[1:20:57] na ito
[1:20:58] at
[1:20:58] nag
[1:20:58] next
[1:20:59] step
[1:20:59] kayo
[1:20:59] which
[1:20:59] is
[1:20:59] to
[1:21:00] ask
[1:21:00] for
[1:21:00] individual
[1:21:01] affidavits
[1:21:02] tama
[1:21:02] po yun
[1:21:03] attorney
[1:21:03] batu
[1:21:04] yes
[1:21:04] your
[1:21:04] honor
[1:21:05] at
[1:21:05] nakapagsummit
[1:21:06] ba
[1:21:06] ng
[1:21:06] individual
[1:21:07] affidavits
[1:21:07] as
[1:21:08] far as
[1:21:09] I
[1:21:09] know
[1:21:09] wala
[1:21:09] pa
[1:21:09] po
[1:21:09] okay
[1:21:10] kasi
[1:21:10] dito
[1:21:11] po
[1:21:11] sa
[1:21:12] blue
[1:21:12] ribbon
[1:21:17] marami
[1:21:18] talagang
[1:21:18] paratang
[1:21:20] marami
[1:21:21] nabibring
[1:21:21] up
[1:21:21] kadalasan
[1:21:23] po
[1:21:23] mga
[1:21:23] kasama
[1:21:24] rin
[1:21:24] po
[1:21:25] namin
[1:21:25] sa
[1:21:25] lis
[1:21:26] latura
[1:21:26] kasama
[1:21:27] namin
[1:21:27] dito
[1:21:28] pero
[1:21:29] ang
[1:21:29] expectation
[1:21:30] po
[1:21:30] namin
[1:21:30] merong
[1:21:31] further
[1:21:31] investigation
[1:21:32] yan
[1:21:32] para
[1:21:33] malaman
[1:21:33] may
[1:21:34] corroborative
[1:21:34] evidence
[1:21:35] may
[1:21:35] further
[1:21:35] investigation
[1:21:36] at
[1:21:37] syempre
[1:21:39] po
[1:21:39] marami
[1:21:39] dito
[1:21:40] maraming
[1:21:41] sinasabi
[1:21:42] marami
[1:21:42] ring
[1:21:42] denial
[1:21:43] pero
[1:21:43] yung
[1:21:43] pinaka
[1:21:43] mainam
[1:21:45] talaga
[1:21:45] kung
[1:21:45] talagang
[1:21:46] totoong
[1:21:46] iniimbestighan
[1:21:47] to
[1:21:47] mga
[1:21:47] to
[1:21:48] at
[1:21:49] sa mga
[1:21:49] hensya
[1:21:49] kung
[1:21:50] meron
[1:21:50] ba
[1:21:50] talagang
[1:21:51] bigat
[1:21:52] ito
[1:21:52] o
[1:21:52] wala
[1:21:53] sinasabi
[1:21:54] po
[1:21:54] ninyo
[1:21:55] tinutuloy
[1:21:56] nyo
[1:21:56] yung
[1:21:56] investigasyon
[1:21:57] pero
[1:21:58] hindi
[1:21:58] pa
[1:21:58] sila
[1:21:58] nagsasubmit
[1:21:59] ng
[1:21:59] individual
[1:22:00] affidavit
[1:22:01] para
[1:22:01] talagang
[1:22:02] mahimay
[1:22:02] at
[1:22:03] malaman
[1:22:03] kung
[1:22:03] meron
[1:22:04] pa
[1:22:04] talagang
[1:22:05] probative
[1:22:05] value
[1:22:06] yung
[1:22:06] kanilang
[1:22:06] mga
[1:22:06] statement
[1:22:07] tama
[1:22:07] po
[1:22:07] ba
[1:22:07] yun
[1:22:08] attorney
[1:22:08] batu
[1:22:09] your
[1:22:12] order
[1:22:12] but
[1:22:13] upon
[1:22:13] evaluation
[1:22:14] we
[1:22:14] required
[1:22:15] the
[1:22:15] handling
[1:22:16] lawyer
[1:22:17] si
[1:22:17] attorney
[1:22:18] balikod
[1:22:18] to
[1:22:18] please
[1:22:19] submit
[1:22:21] individual
[1:22:22] joint
[1:22:22] affidavit
[1:22:23] dr.
[1:22:23] marines
[1:22:23] kung makapagbigay
[1:22:24] po sila
[1:22:25] ng
[1:22:25] individual
[1:22:25] affidavit
[1:22:26] o
[1:22:26] kaya
[1:22:26] ngayon
[1:22:26] kung
[1:22:27] pumunta
[1:22:27] po
[1:22:27] sila
[1:22:27] dito
[1:22:28] may
[1:22:28] kanya-kanyang
[1:22:29] testimonya
[1:22:30] under oath
[1:22:31] at
[1:22:32] nakuha
[1:22:32] po
[1:22:32] nyo
[1:22:32] yun
[1:22:33] ano
[1:22:33] po
[1:22:33] yung
[1:22:34] responsibilidad
[1:22:35] ng
[1:22:35] ombudsman
[1:22:35] hindi
[1:22:36] ho
[1:22:36] ba
[1:22:36] para
[1:22:36] investigahan
[1:22:37] pa rin
[1:22:37] po
[1:22:37] yan
[1:22:38] at
[1:22:38] hanapin
[1:22:39] yung
[1:22:39] katotohanan
[1:22:39] going
[1:22:42] to
[1:22:42] the
[1:22:42] usual
[1:22:43] process
[1:22:43] or
[1:22:43] order
[1:22:44] if
[1:22:44] it's
[1:22:44] sufficient
[1:22:45] in
[1:22:45] form
[1:22:45] and
[1:22:46] substance
[1:22:46] yung
[1:22:47] kanila
[1:22:47] if
[1:22:47] it's
[1:22:48] the
[1:22:48] form
[1:22:48] of
[1:22:48] complaint
[1:22:49] affidavit
[1:22:49] and
[1:22:50] then
[1:22:50] it's
[1:22:50] sufficient
[1:22:51] in
[1:22:51] form
[1:22:51] and
[1:22:51] substance
[1:22:52] pwede
[1:22:52] po
[1:22:52] siyang
[1:22:53] mag-undergo
[1:22:54] ng
[1:22:54] preliminary
[1:22:54] investigation
[1:22:55] at
[1:22:56] kayo
[1:22:56] po
[1:22:56] mismo
[1:22:56] attorney
[1:22:57] yung
[1:22:57] nag-iimbestiga
[1:22:57] o
[1:22:58] ripapasa
[1:22:58] po
[1:22:58] nyo
[1:22:58] sa
[1:22:59] NBI
[1:22:59] o
[1:23:00] sa
[1:23:00] DOJ
[1:23:00] kami
[1:23:03] po
[1:23:03] pwede
[1:23:04] po
[1:23:04] namin
[1:23:04] investighan
[1:23:05] direts
[1:23:06] yun
[1:23:06] preliminary
[1:23:07] investigation
[1:23:08] din po
[1:23:08] kasi
[1:23:08] we
[1:23:09] have
[1:23:09] our
[1:23:09] bureaus
[1:23:10] doing
[1:23:10] that
[1:23:10] okay
[1:23:11] so
[1:23:11] in
[1:23:11] usual
[1:23:12] practice
[1:23:12] kapag
[1:23:12] may
[1:23:13] mga
[1:23:13] bagong
[1:23:13] informasyon
[1:23:14] ano
[1:23:14] po
[1:23:15] yung
[1:23:15] proseso
[1:23:15] po
[1:23:15] ninyo
[1:23:16] do
[1:23:16] you
[1:23:16] forward
[1:23:17] it
[1:23:17] to
[1:23:18] the
[1:23:18] other
[1:23:18] agencies
[1:23:18] for
[1:23:19] further
[1:23:19] investigation
[1:23:20] or
[1:23:20] kayo
[1:23:20] mismo
[1:23:21] yung
[1:23:21] nag-iimbestiga
[1:23:21] yung
[1:23:22] packfinding
[1:23:23] investigation
[1:23:24] po
[1:23:24] our
[1:23:25] office
[1:23:25] yun
[1:23:26] nagkakonduct
[1:23:27] talaga
[1:23:27] ng
[1:23:27] packfinding
[1:23:28] investigations
[1:23:29] for
[1:23:29] context
[1:23:30] po
[1:23:30] your
[1:23:30] honor
[1:23:31] yung
[1:23:31] mga
[1:23:31] sinasubject
[1:23:32] to
[1:23:37] na
[1:23:38] hindi
[1:23:38] siya
[1:23:38] sufficient
[1:23:38] inform
[1:23:39] but
[1:23:39] merong
[1:23:40] mga
[1:23:40] verifiable
[1:23:41] needs
[1:23:41] at
[1:23:42] hindi
[1:23:42] pa
[1:23:43] yun
[1:23:43] nagagawa
[1:23:43] para
[1:23:44] sa
[1:23:44] affidavits
[1:23:45] ng
[1:23:46] mga
[1:23:46] 18
[1:23:47] bodyguards
[1:23:47] kasi
[1:23:47] hindi
[1:23:48] pa
[1:23:48] sila
[1:23:48] nagsasubmit
[1:23:49] ng
[1:23:49] individual
[1:23:49] na
[1:23:50] affidavit
[1:23:50] is that
[1:23:51] correct
[1:23:51] yun
[1:23:51] ba yung
[1:23:51] tamang
[1:23:52] proseso
[1:23:52] so
[1:23:54] yun
[1:23:55] po
[1:23:55] ang
[1:23:55] last
[1:23:55] ano
[1:23:55] namin
[1:23:56] sa
[1:23:56] kanila
[1:23:56] evaluation
[1:23:58] is
[1:23:58] for
[1:23:59] them
[1:23:59] to
[1:23:59] submit
[1:23:59] individual
[1:24:01] affidavits
[1:24:03] at
[1:24:03] kung
[1:24:04] makapagsubmit
[1:24:04] po
[1:24:04] sila
[1:24:05] ano po yung magiging susunod na proseso doon
[1:24:07] it will still be subject to evaluation your honor
[1:24:10] so
[1:24:10] kasi
[1:24:10] we'll just check
[1:24:11] we'll still check kung completo siya
[1:24:13] like I said
[1:24:14] sufficient informant substance
[1:24:17] that can go through the
[1:24:19] directly to the preliminary investigation
[1:24:21] kung hindi naman
[1:24:22] we can forward it
[1:24:24] to the
[1:24:25] field investigation office
[1:24:26] for the
[1:24:26] conduct of
[1:24:27] finding investigation
[1:24:28] pero hindi pa
[1:24:29] I guess
[1:24:31] kasi
[1:24:31] attorney
[1:24:31] Batu
[1:24:32] yung
[1:24:32] yung binabato
[1:24:33] kasi
[1:24:33] parang
[1:24:34] hindi daw
[1:24:35] pinapansin
[1:24:35] yung mga
[1:24:36] yung mga ibang
[1:24:38] testimonya nila
[1:24:39] o nasa affidavit
[1:24:40] yan yung kanilang
[1:24:41] binabato ngayon
[1:24:42] gusto kong lang malaman
[1:24:43] hindi nyo naman sinasara ito
[1:24:45] humihingi kayo ng further affidavit
[1:24:47] para ma-fact finding
[1:24:48] kasi lahat po kami dito
[1:24:49] pwedeng i-fact finding
[1:24:50] diba
[1:24:51] tama naman po
[1:24:51] attorney Melvin
[1:24:53] lahat ng mga
[1:24:54] pangalang binanggit
[1:24:56] fina-further
[1:24:57] investigate po ninyo
[1:24:58] kahit
[1:24:59] congressman yan
[1:24:59] senador yan
[1:25:00] o kung sino man yan
[1:25:02] well
[1:25:03] tama po yun
[1:25:03] kagaya nga po
[1:25:05] sa sinabi namin
[1:25:05] senator
[1:25:07] is
[1:25:07] mr. chair
[1:25:08] is
[1:25:08] hindi kami makapunta
[1:25:10] dun sa kanilang
[1:25:11] aligasyon
[1:25:11] dahil dun mismo
[1:25:12] sa kanilang isinabit
[1:25:13] na affidavit
[1:25:14] at nung kinuha namin
[1:25:16] sila ng pahayag
[1:25:16] isa-isa
[1:25:17] ayaw naman din
[1:25:17] pirmahan
[1:25:18] so paano po tayo
[1:25:19] magtutungo dun sa next step
[1:25:21] na ipapatawag natin
[1:25:22] yung
[1:25:23] mga binabangkit
[1:25:24] nilang pangalan
[1:25:25] mr. chair
[1:25:26] pwede makasing
[1:25:26] yes
[1:25:27] with the indulgence
[1:25:28] of senator
[1:25:29] aquino
[1:25:30] bakit kinakailangan
[1:25:32] individual affidavit
[1:25:34] hindi ba pwede yung
[1:25:34] grupo sila
[1:25:36] mag issue na affidavit
[1:25:37] yun na nga po
[1:25:38] yung binabanggit namin
[1:25:39] kasi yung
[1:25:40] probative value
[1:25:40] po nito mababa
[1:25:41] kasi ang affidavit po
[1:25:43] dapat
[1:25:43] base sa yung
[1:25:44] karanasan
[1:25:45] sa sarili mong
[1:25:46] recollection
[1:25:46] tapos yung
[1:25:48] pag-identify
[1:25:48] kung maalala nyo po
[1:25:50] bahasa dun sa
[1:25:50] binanggit ko na
[1:25:51] report
[1:25:53] base sa natapos na
[1:25:54] report ng aming
[1:25:54] fact-finding
[1:25:55] ng task force namin
[1:25:56] hinihingan po sila
[1:25:57] ng mga additional
[1:25:58] na ebidensya
[1:25:59] hinihingan sila
[1:26:00] ng kanya-kanyang
[1:26:01] pahayag
[1:26:01] pero binigyan po
[1:26:03] namin ng supesyenteng
[1:26:04] panahon para
[1:26:05] magsumitin ito
[1:26:06] para makaproceed po kami
[1:26:07] to do a fact-finding
[1:26:09] dun po sa mga
[1:26:10] binanggit na pangalan
[1:26:11] Okay, dalawa na lamang
[1:26:12] So, nakapag-issue na ba
[1:26:14] ng kanyang-kanyang
[1:26:15] affidavit
[1:26:15] itong 18 kargador
[1:26:17] have they issued?
[1:26:19] Kasi sabi nyo
[1:26:19] paiba-ibang
[1:26:20] statement nila
[1:26:20] Yun nga po
[1:26:21] sinabject namin sila
[1:26:23] sa individual
[1:26:23] question and answer
[1:26:25] lima lang po
[1:26:26] yung pumirma
[1:26:27] yung labing tatlo
[1:26:28] pinigilan ni
[1:26:28] Atty. Balikod
[1:26:29] na pumirma
[1:26:30] gusto pa nga
[1:26:30] punitin yung
[1:26:31] kanilang managing
[1:26:32] statement
[1:26:32] ngayon, base po
[1:26:34] kung tatanungin
[1:26:35] inap ba na
[1:26:36] para mag-imbestiga
[1:26:37] hindi po tatayo
[1:26:38] baka mangyari po
[1:26:39] sa NBI
[1:26:40] nakakaroon kami
[1:26:41] ng parang
[1:26:41] phishing expedition
[1:26:42] para may mga
[1:26:43] binanggit na pangalan
[1:26:44] e investigahan namin
[1:26:45] pero
[1:26:46] hindi po namin
[1:26:47] isinasara yung
[1:26:48] investigasyon
[1:26:49] hanggang ngayon
[1:26:49] bukas po yung
[1:26:50] investigasyon
[1:26:51] kung meron po
[1:26:52] papasok na mga
[1:26:52] ebidensya
[1:26:53] na directang
[1:26:54] magtuturo
[1:26:55] o matibay na
[1:26:56] ebidensya
[1:26:56] napapasa po
[1:26:57] doon sa probable
[1:26:58] cause na tinatawag
[1:26:59] Okay, yung lima po
[1:27:01] na nag-execute
[1:27:02] ng affidavit
[1:27:02] individually po yun
[1:27:04] Individually po
[1:27:05] Okay
[1:27:05] Ano pong nilalaman
[1:27:08] ng kanilang affidavit
[1:27:09] at yun po ba
[1:27:11] hindi na nagpabago-bago
[1:27:13] o pinahindihan nila
[1:27:15] nakawan yung unang
[1:27:16] affidavit na inisyo nila
[1:27:17] sa inyo
[1:27:17] Ang malungkot po
[1:27:18] doon sa mga pumirma
[1:27:19] lumalabas
[1:27:20] 10% lang po talaga
[1:27:22] yung parang
[1:27:22] directang alam nila
[1:27:23] and all the others
[1:27:25] are hearsay
[1:27:26] lagi nilang itinuturo
[1:27:27] yung
[1:27:27] kung sino-sino
[1:27:28] ang personalidad po
[1:27:29] o nakita nila sa group
[1:27:31] So, ano tawag niyo po
[1:27:32] sa ganung klaseng affidavit
[1:27:33] na hearsay lang pala
[1:27:34] nanunumpa sila
[1:27:35] na sa buong katotohanan
[1:27:37] yung pagkakaalam nila
[1:27:37] pero yun pala
[1:27:38] yung information na yun
[1:27:40] ay second hand
[1:27:40] o third hand pala
[1:27:41] binigyan lang sa kanila
[1:27:42] Ang hindi po ako nagsasabi
[1:27:43] ang Korte Supremo na po
[1:27:44] nagsasabi
[1:27:45] na yan yung pinakamababang
[1:27:46] value ng ebidensya po
[1:27:47] na hindi po titindig
[1:27:49] na kahit po
[1:27:50] baka pagdinala namin
[1:27:51] sa DOJ
[1:27:52] or sa Umbudsman
[1:27:53] ay doon pa lang po
[1:27:53] sa level na yun
[1:27:54] hindi na po pumasok yung kaso
[1:27:56] sa halip na po
[1:27:57] na tumiba yung kaso
[1:27:58] doon sa mga binabanggit
[1:28:00] mahalimbawa
[1:28:00] na meron talagang
[1:28:01] kinalaman sa anomalya
[1:28:02] ay baka makatulong pa ito
[1:28:04] para humina po
[1:28:05] yung kaso na ilalaban po
[1:28:06] Okay, noong April 28 po
[1:28:08] no, 2026
[1:28:10] isa pong affidavit
[1:28:11] na in-execute
[1:28:12] sa Special Action Unit
[1:28:14] ng NBI
[1:28:14] ano po
[1:28:15] ng isa sa mga kamag-anak
[1:28:17] ng labing walong kargador
[1:28:18] Now, ready na po bang
[1:28:20] NBI na ipresent po
[1:28:22] yung detalye
[1:28:22] doon sa affidavit na yun
[1:28:23] na sinasabi nga pong
[1:28:26] nakatanggap ng 5 million
[1:28:29] para sa isang false testimony
[1:28:31] Pabuti po na nabanggit to yan
[1:28:34] kasi nangyari nga po yan
[1:28:36] noong habang nagkakaroon sila
[1:28:37] ng pagdinig dito
[1:28:40] hindi ko alam kung
[1:28:41] ano pong eksaktong tawag doon
[1:28:42] na hawak na po namin yun
[1:28:45] since April 28 pa
[1:28:47] tapos bumalik pa nga po
[1:28:49] para ayusin yung kanyang testimony
[1:28:50] ito po
[1:28:51] parang benan po niya yung isa
[1:28:54] sa miyembro nung 18 bodyguards
[1:28:57] ano po
[1:28:57] na sinasabi niya
[1:29:00] ang pinangako po ni
[1:29:01] na kinumbisi sila na sumama
[1:29:03] sa pangako na bibigyan
[1:29:05] ang bawat isa
[1:29:05] ng 5 million
[1:29:06] pero ang sinabi
[1:29:08] hindi naman po
[1:29:09] nabigay pa yung 5 million
[1:29:10] ang una
[1:29:10] sabi 700,000
[1:29:12] pero ang kabuan pa lang
[1:29:13] pala na nabibigay
[1:29:14] 350,000
[1:29:15] 500 million each
[1:29:17] dapat
[1:29:17] 5 million po dapat
[1:29:18] 5 million pesos each
[1:29:20] pero hindi na ibigay
[1:29:21] yung 5 million each
[1:29:22] wala pa po yatang naibibigay
[1:29:23] base po doon
[1:29:24] sa testimonya nitong
[1:29:25] manugang
[1:29:27] magkano lang pong na-release
[1:29:29] sabi po doon ito
[1:29:30] yung sa personal account po
[1:29:31] 350
[1:29:32] sino pong nabigyan ng 350
[1:29:34] out of that
[1:29:35] si
[1:29:35] galik po kay Mike Defensor
[1:29:36] at siyempre
[1:29:37] kasama po si Atone Balikod
[1:29:39] yung po yung aming pinapalawak pa
[1:29:40] kaya nga po
[1:29:41] dami sinab
[1:29:42] pero sino pong nakatanggap
[1:29:43] nung
[1:29:43] 350
[1:29:44] isang marine po
[1:29:45] isa lang po
[1:29:46] isa pa lang po
[1:29:47] so yung 17
[1:29:47] wala pa
[1:29:48] isa lang po yung may recollection
[1:29:50] hindi ko po alam yun sa 17
[1:29:51] ibig sabihin po
[1:29:52] Mr. Chair
[1:29:54] ang recollection po nito
[1:29:55] yun sa pag-uusap nilang dalawa
[1:29:58] ng kanyang bienaan
[1:29:59] so ibig sabihin
[1:30:00] kaya po
[1:30:00] lumantad itong
[1:30:01] 18 kargador
[1:30:03] dahil pinangkuhan po sila
[1:30:05] mabibigyan ng
[1:30:05] 5 million pesos each
[1:30:07] yun po yung
[1:30:07] sinasabi
[1:30:08] isa sa membro nila
[1:30:09] pero gusto ko po
[1:30:10] liwanagin
[1:30:11] I will take the opportunity
[1:30:12] na liwanagin
[1:30:13] kasi narinig ko po
[1:30:14] pinapupunta ko rito
[1:30:15] noon ni
[1:30:16] Senator Cayetano
[1:30:17] kasi para daw
[1:30:19] harapin ko daw
[1:30:20] si Ginoong Mike Defensor
[1:30:21] alam naman po natin
[1:30:23] na hindi naman po
[1:30:24] ganun yung proseso
[1:30:25] ng isang committee hearing
[1:30:26] pero una-una po
[1:30:28] hindi naman po
[1:30:29] ibig sabihin
[1:30:30] suspect na kagad natin
[1:30:31] o akusado na si
[1:30:32] Mike Defensor
[1:30:33] ang NBI po
[1:30:34] nag-i-issue po kami
[1:30:35] ng sabwi na
[1:30:36] hindi dahil pinagsususpechahan
[1:30:38] kayo
[1:30:38] kundi
[1:30:38] as a part of our
[1:30:40] packfinding
[1:30:40] inaalam nga po namin
[1:30:42] ang sabi ko nga po
[1:30:42] kung mapatunayan namin
[1:30:44] na itong taon to
[1:30:44] nagsisinungaling
[1:30:45] laban kay Mike Defensor
[1:30:47] tutulungan pa po namin
[1:30:48] si Ginoong Mike Defensor
[1:30:50] na habulin at
[1:30:50] papanagutin po
[1:30:51] yung tao na yun
[1:30:52] Okay, last na naman
[1:30:53] alimbawa po
[1:30:54] napatunayan ng NBI
[1:30:55] na totoo nga yung
[1:30:56] allegasyon
[1:30:57] na sila po ay
[1:30:58] tumanggap ng 5 million
[1:31:00] in exchange for
[1:31:01] false testimony
[1:31:02] ano pong kaso noon?
[1:31:03] Well, may pananagutan po yan
[1:31:04] sa revised penal code
[1:31:06] kasi
[1:31:06] yung pong ikaw
[1:31:08] nagihimok
[1:31:09] ng titistigo
[1:31:10] para kasuhan ng kriminal
[1:31:12] yung isang tao
[1:31:12] na wala naman talagang basihan
[1:31:14] e pinaparusahan po yan
[1:31:15] sa ilalim ng ating
[1:31:16] revised penal code
[1:31:17] At yung pong nagtistigo
[1:31:18] nagbigay ng false testimony
[1:31:20] kapalit ng pera
[1:31:21] ano pong kaso?
[1:31:22] May kaso rin po yun
[1:31:23] pwedeng managot po
[1:31:24] ng perjury po
[1:31:24] Maraming salamat po
[1:31:26] Thank you
[1:31:26] Mr. Chair
[1:31:27] with the indulgence
[1:31:28] of Senator Bam
[1:31:29] I'm done Mr. Chair
[1:31:31] Go ahead
[1:31:32] Is that the only
[1:31:33] A follow up question
[1:31:34] Mr. Chair
[1:31:35] Salamat po
[1:31:36] So, malinaw na
[1:31:38] dun sa mga
[1:31:39] allegasyon
[1:31:39] ng 18 ex-bodyguards
[1:31:41] nagpapatuloy
[1:31:42] ang investigasyon
[1:31:43] ng NBI
[1:31:44] and then kung kanina
[1:31:46] sa ombudsman
[1:31:47] ang next step
[1:31:48] dun sa mga
[1:31:48] allegasyon nila
[1:31:49] ay pinagsusumitin nyo sila
[1:31:51] ng tigi isang
[1:31:52] individual affidavit
[1:31:54] Sa DOJ naman po
[1:31:56] ano yung next steps
[1:31:57] ng department
[1:31:59] dun sa mga
[1:32:00] allegasyon
[1:32:00] ng ex-bodyguards?
[1:32:02] Well, as far as
[1:32:03] the DOJ is concerned
[1:32:04] ma'am
[1:32:04] we will work
[1:32:05] together with
[1:32:06] the National Bureau
[1:32:07] of Investigation
[1:32:08] kasi meron po tayong
[1:32:10] dun sa fact finding
[1:32:11] or dun sa case build up
[1:32:12] dapat po magkatuwang
[1:32:14] yung public prosecutors
[1:32:16] at saka yung ating
[1:32:17] law enforcement
[1:32:18] So, yung sinasabi kanina
[1:32:21] ni Director
[1:32:22] binabaan pa nga daw po
[1:32:24] nila yung antas
[1:32:24] ng ebidensya
[1:32:25] which is
[1:32:26] probable cause only
[1:32:28] but again
[1:32:29] as far as
[1:32:30] the department
[1:32:31] is concerned
[1:32:31] there is already
[1:32:32] a higher standard
[1:32:33] which is prima facie
[1:32:34] with reasonable
[1:32:35] certainty of conviction
[1:32:36] Kung dun sa sinasabi
[1:32:38] ni Director
[1:32:38] hindi na lumulusot
[1:32:39] sa probable cause
[1:32:40] with all the more reason
[1:32:42] it cannot prosper
[1:32:43] or not even be accepted
[1:32:44] by the department
[1:32:45] kasi
[1:32:46] sa department po ngayon
[1:32:48] hindi po como
[1:32:48] na i-submit
[1:32:49] o na-file yung kaso
[1:32:50] automatic
[1:32:51] it will be docketed
[1:32:52] as a criminal case
[1:32:53] and subject to
[1:32:54] preliminary investigation
[1:32:55] Ang mangyayari po
[1:32:57] ito po'y dadaan pa rin
[1:32:58] sa masusing evaluation
[1:32:59] para malaman
[1:33:01] kung sapat na po ba
[1:33:02] yung ebidensya
[1:33:03] at kung ito'y sapat na
[1:33:04] sa kapadamang po ito
[1:33:05] aakyat
[1:33:06] para maging
[1:33:07] isang kaso
[1:33:08] the criminal case
[1:33:09] which should be subject
[1:33:10] to PI
[1:33:11] tinitiyak po natin
[1:33:13] kasi
[1:33:13] na kung magsasampa tayo
[1:33:15] ng kaso ngayon
[1:33:16] hindi lang yung
[1:33:16] for the sake of filing it
[1:33:18] but one which should
[1:33:19] really be able to
[1:33:20] withstand the rigors
[1:33:21] of trial
[1:33:22] kung darating po tayo
[1:33:23] sa punto na yon
[1:33:23] so if that is the case
[1:33:26] sa malamang
[1:33:26] at sa malamang ho
[1:33:27] kung sa probable cause
[1:33:29] hindi lulusot
[1:33:30] sa malamang ho
[1:33:31] pag sa evaluation pa lang
[1:33:32] baka hindi na rin po
[1:33:33] makalusot sa department yan
[1:33:34] Alright
[1:33:35] Salamat Mr. Chair
[1:33:37] Gusto ko lang
[1:33:37] i-make of record na
[1:33:38] na-appreciate ko po
[1:33:40] yung efforts
[1:33:40] ng DOJ
[1:33:43] ang Office of the Ombudsman
[1:33:44] at saka NBI
[1:33:45] lalo na yung huling sinabi
[1:33:47] ni Prosecutor General
[1:33:49] Fadulion
[1:33:50] may certain
[1:33:51] liberality
[1:33:52] na sinusubukang
[1:33:53] gamitin
[1:33:54] and yet
[1:33:55] hinahanda ng maayos
[1:33:57] kung anumang
[1:33:58] mga kaso
[1:33:59] para talagang
[1:33:59] ang maging resulta
[1:34:01] ay mahanap po
[1:34:02] yung katotohanan
[1:34:03] and I hope
[1:34:03] everyone around the table
[1:34:05] and even those
[1:34:06] na hindi dumalo sa table
[1:34:08] ay na-appreciate po
[1:34:09] yung effort na ganoon
[1:34:11] Salamat Mr. Chair
[1:34:12] Thank you
[1:34:12] Just a quick question
[1:34:13] Mr. Chairman
[1:34:14] Sabi ng ating
[1:34:16] representative
[1:34:17] ng Ombudsman
[1:34:18] ang hiniling nila
[1:34:19] ay gawing
[1:34:20] individual affidavits
[1:34:21] dahil nga
[1:34:22] omnibus
[1:34:23] affidavit
[1:34:24] yung sinumiti
[1:34:24] Ganon din ang sinabi
[1:34:26] ng ating director
[1:34:27] individual
[1:34:28] I mean
[1:34:28] affidavits
[1:34:30] at hindi pa pwede
[1:34:30] itong labing walo
[1:34:31] ay pumirman
[1:34:32] ng isang affidavit
[1:34:33] can we get the sense
[1:34:34] of the prosecutor general
[1:34:35] how do you
[1:34:36] how do you treat
[1:34:37] as a general rule
[1:34:39] how do you treat
[1:34:40] an omnibus
[1:34:41] affidavit
[1:34:42] of 15
[1:34:43] 20
[1:34:43] maybe 40 people
[1:34:45] I don't know
[1:34:46] go ahead
[1:34:47] go ahead
[1:34:48] Mr. Chair
[1:34:48] if a joint affidavit
[1:34:50] if a joint affidavit
[1:34:50] is submitted
[1:34:51] to the Department
[1:34:52] of Justice
[1:34:53] and this joint affidavit
[1:34:54] is signed by
[1:34:55] let's say
[1:34:56] 10 or 18 people
[1:34:57] for that matter
[1:34:58] kapag hindi
[1:35:00] wala pong
[1:35:00] qualification
[1:35:01] dun sa affidavit
[1:35:02] dun sa salaysay
[1:35:03] na ito po
[1:35:05] ay
[1:35:05] was taken
[1:35:07] was participated
[1:35:08] in
[1:35:09] by this particular
[1:35:10] individual
[1:35:11] it would appear
[1:35:12] as far as
[1:35:13] the reader is concerned
[1:35:14] that lahat po sila
[1:35:15] na nakapirma dun
[1:35:16] lahat sila
[1:35:17] may personal na kaalaman
[1:35:18] dun sa mga
[1:35:20] nakasalaysay dun
[1:35:21] kaya sinasabi lagi po namin
[1:35:23] kung magjo-joint affidavit
[1:35:24] tiyakin ninyo
[1:35:25] na lahat po
[1:35:26] ng nakasaad yan
[1:35:27] ay merong kayong
[1:35:29] personal na kaalaman
[1:35:30] kung wala naman po
[1:35:31] pwede po silang
[1:35:32] magkaroon ng qualification
[1:35:33] dun mismo
[1:35:34] sa joint affidavit
[1:35:35] na sabihin
[1:35:36] patungkol po
[1:35:38] dito sa pangyayaring to
[1:35:39] tanging itong mga tao
[1:35:40] lamang na ito
[1:35:41] ang merong kabahagi
[1:35:43] or naging bahagi
[1:35:44] pero if there is
[1:35:46] no such qualification
[1:35:47] then
[1:35:48] I would have to
[1:35:49] concede
[1:35:49] to the
[1:35:50] strategy
[1:35:51] being undertaken
[1:35:52] by the NBI
[1:35:53] as well as
[1:35:54] the ombudsman
[1:35:54] that
[1:35:55] it's better
[1:35:56] to really have
[1:35:57] individual
[1:35:58] affidavits
[1:35:59] because
[1:36:00] it's also a way
[1:36:01] of trying
[1:36:02] to compare
[1:36:03] and test
[1:36:03] the credibility
[1:36:05] of these witnesses
[1:36:06] kapag
[1:36:07] again
[1:36:08] yung sinabi po
[1:36:09] kanina
[1:36:09] supreme court
[1:36:11] has already
[1:36:11] decided
[1:36:12] in a host
[1:36:12] of cases
[1:36:13] that when
[1:36:14] affidavits
[1:36:15] perfectly
[1:36:16] or the
[1:36:16] allegations
[1:36:17] or statements
[1:36:17] perfectly
[1:36:18] dovetail
[1:36:19] ibig sabihin
[1:36:20] pag tinignan nyo
[1:36:21] parang talagang
[1:36:22] pattern talaga siya
[1:36:24] inakaduda-duda po
[1:36:26] yung ganon
[1:36:27] mas maigi po yung
[1:36:28] merong konting
[1:36:29] inconsistency
[1:36:30] because it gives
[1:36:31] badges of truth
[1:36:32] to it
[1:36:32] rather than
[1:36:33] if it perfectly
[1:36:34] dovetails
[1:36:35] and then it says
[1:36:36] practically the same
[1:36:37] thing
[1:36:37] then
[1:36:38] there is something
[1:36:39] questionable
[1:36:40] about that
[1:36:40] Mr. Chair
[1:36:42] quickly
[1:36:42] before we
[1:36:43] do indulgence
[1:36:45] actually
[1:36:45] after
[1:36:46] Senator
[1:36:47] Raffi
[1:36:48] it's your turn
[1:36:50] para lang
[1:36:51] bago natin
[1:36:52] iwanan itong
[1:36:53] subject
[1:36:54] sa affidavit
[1:36:55] Mr. Chair
[1:36:56] siguro hindi
[1:36:57] hod naman
[1:36:58] sa Central
[1:36:59] Division Office
[1:37:00] ng Ombudsman
[1:37:01] pero itong
[1:37:01] affidavit
[1:37:02] na lima
[1:37:03] ay nakakuha po
[1:37:04] from
[1:37:05] Deputy Ombudsman
[1:37:07] Nico Clabano
[1:37:09] and also
[1:37:09] si Director
[1:37:10] Matibag
[1:37:11] ang sakin ko
[1:37:12] kasi Mr. Chair
[1:37:13] iba po yung
[1:37:13] talagang
[1:37:14] pinirmahan
[1:37:14] pagpinalmahan
[1:37:15] ang affidavit
[1:37:16] ibig sabihin
[1:37:17] pag
[1:37:18] pagpalagay na natin
[1:37:21] 10%
[1:37:21] nga lang
[1:37:22] ang totoo
[1:37:22] pero may magagamit
[1:37:25] pa rin hubo
[1:37:25] tanong ko lang
[1:37:27] kay Director
[1:37:28] Matibag
[1:37:28] sinasabi nyo
[1:37:29] halimbawa
[1:37:30] yun sa mga limang
[1:37:32] individual na pumirma
[1:37:33] may matutukoy
[1:37:35] kasi ang
[1:37:35] gusto natin
[1:37:36] matuntun dito
[1:37:37] matayon na yung
[1:37:38] nasalarin
[1:37:38] kahit papano
[1:37:39] kung meron silang
[1:37:41] personal knowledge
[1:37:42] kung talagang
[1:37:43] yung kanilang
[1:37:44] isinalaysay
[1:37:44] kahit pa
[1:37:46] 10%
[1:37:46] 20%
[1:37:47] ay
[1:37:48] sa tingin nyo ba
[1:37:49] pwede magamit
[1:37:50] para matukoy
[1:37:51] yung mga tunay
[1:37:52] na salary nito
[1:37:53] dahil baka pwede
[1:37:53] sabi ko nga
[1:37:54] yung
[1:37:54] yung
[1:37:55] labing walong
[1:37:56] yun
[1:37:56] maganda
[1:37:57] kung sabihin
[1:37:58] nila rito
[1:37:59] para
[1:37:59] maitahin natin
[1:38:00] para malaman natin
[1:38:02] at matuntun
[1:38:03] yung mga talagang
[1:38:03] may kagagawa nito
[1:38:05] sige
[1:38:06] sige
[1:38:06] director
[1:38:06] matibag
[1:38:07] salamat
[1:38:08] Mr. Chair
[1:38:09] tama po yun
[1:38:10] pero
[1:38:11] dun po sa
[1:38:11] 10%
[1:38:12] na 20%
[1:38:13] na sinasabing
[1:38:14] totoo
[1:38:14] yung participation
[1:38:15] nila
[1:38:15] sa driver
[1:38:16] ganyan
[1:38:17] hindi po
[1:38:18] ma-establish
[1:38:18] pa rin talaga
[1:38:19] kung nakita nilang
[1:38:20] actual
[1:38:21] na may pera
[1:38:21] ba talaga
[1:38:22] may dala
[1:38:22] I will cite
[1:38:23] an example
[1:38:24] yung isa po
[1:38:24] sa pubirma
[1:38:25] si Gil
[1:38:26] Navidad
[1:38:27] yung isa
[1:38:28] sa mga
[1:38:28] labing walo
[1:38:29] tinanong siya
[1:38:30] kasi may
[1:38:31] allegation siya
[1:38:32] ron
[1:38:32] nakasama siya
[1:38:32] nag-deliver
[1:38:33] tinanong siya
[1:38:34] dun po sa
[1:38:35] one-on-one
[1:38:35] interview
[1:38:36] sa pag-deliver
[1:38:37] po ng mga
[1:38:38] mali
[1:38:38] tanong
[1:38:40] na maneho mo
[1:38:41] po ba
[1:38:41] lahat ng ito
[1:38:42] o may maneho
[1:38:44] pang iba
[1:38:44] kasi nagbigay
[1:38:45] po siya
[1:38:45] ng plate number
[1:38:46] so sinabi niya
[1:38:47] yun
[1:38:47] dun yung totoo
[1:38:48] yung mga plate number
[1:38:49] totoo yun
[1:38:51] tapos tinanong
[1:38:52] nila sa
[1:38:52] sa pag-deliver
[1:38:53] po ng maleta
[1:38:53] na may lamang pera
[1:38:55] anong maleta po
[1:38:56] ang personal
[1:38:57] na i-deliver
[1:38:58] ninyo
[1:38:58] very specific
[1:38:59] po yung tanong
[1:39:00] personal
[1:39:00] na i-deliver
[1:39:01] ninyo
[1:39:02] ang sagot po niya
[1:39:03] wala po
[1:39:04] tagahatid lamang po ako
[1:39:07] at sila
[1:39:07] Mark Tixay
[1:39:08] at Paul Estrada
[1:39:09] po
[1:39:09] ang personal
[1:39:10] na nag-ahatid
[1:39:11] kung para
[1:39:11] kanina
[1:39:11] ang mga ito
[1:39:13] dun pa lang po
[1:39:14] meron ng problema
[1:39:15] kasi may admission siya
[1:39:16] inalays niya ron
[1:39:17] sa pinakang
[1:39:18] joint up in a bit
[1:39:20] na nag-deliver
[1:39:21] siya ng maleta
[1:39:22] nung tinanong na siya
[1:39:22] ng personal
[1:39:23] ang sagot na niya
[1:39:24] wala pala
[1:39:25] nag-drive lang siya
[1:39:27] so paulit-ulit po
[1:39:28] ganun yung nangyari
[1:39:29] alright thank you
[1:39:32] quickly lang
[1:39:33] balik po tayo
[1:39:34] sa ombudsman
[1:39:35] para po sa mga
[1:39:38] isasagawang
[1:39:39] susunod po
[1:39:40] na pagdinig
[1:39:41] ano po pong
[1:39:42] mga data
[1:39:43] o informasyon
[1:39:44] na kailangan po
[1:39:45] ibigay sa inyo
[1:39:46] ng Blue Ribbon
[1:39:47] para ika nga
[1:39:49] ay
[1:39:49] kitibay po
[1:39:51] ang inyong
[1:39:51] investigasyon
[1:39:52] do you need
[1:39:54] do you need any more
[1:39:54] documents
[1:39:56] pieces of evidence
[1:39:58] from the Blue Ribbon
[1:39:59] o
[1:39:59] sapat na po yung
[1:40:01] naibigay po
[1:40:02] ng chairman's report
[1:40:03] sa inyo
[1:40:04] sa ombudsman
[1:40:06] lahat po ba
[1:40:07] ng cases
[1:40:08] na kailangan po ninyo
[1:40:09] kasi
[1:40:09] I believe
[1:40:10] naibigay na po
[1:40:11] ng dating chairman
[1:40:12] chairman
[1:40:13] Lakson
[1:40:14] sa ombudsman po
[1:40:15] yung kanyang report
[1:40:16] thank you your honor
[1:40:20] but the office
[1:40:21] of the ombudsman
[1:40:22] will always welcome
[1:40:23] po yung additional
[1:40:24] pieces
[1:40:25] also yung mga
[1:40:27] COA reports
[1:40:28] po kung meron din
[1:40:29] na makukuha
[1:40:29] from the senate
[1:40:31] Blue Ribbon
[1:40:32] committee
[1:40:32] that would help
[1:40:33] a lot
[1:40:33] on our
[1:40:35] ongoing
[1:40:35] investigations
[1:40:36] pero kung
[1:40:37] the same
[1:40:38] issue pa rin po
[1:40:39] actually
[1:40:40] what I mean
[1:40:41] to say
[1:40:41] pag may lumutang
[1:40:43] po dito
[1:40:43] may akusasyon
[1:40:44] na naman
[1:40:45] sa isa doon
[1:40:46] sa mga senador
[1:40:46] na napangalanan
[1:40:48] na po
[1:40:48] na isabit na po
[1:40:49] sa report
[1:40:50] may dadagdag
[1:40:51] lang po
[1:40:51] na ebidensya
[1:40:52] or pareho
[1:40:54] pa rin po
[1:40:55] pero ibang tao
[1:40:56] you get
[1:40:57] you what I mean
[1:40:58] isang tao
[1:40:59] po inakusahan
[1:41:00] pero nakasama
[1:41:01] na po siya
[1:41:02] sa chairman's report
[1:41:03] pero ibang tao
[1:41:04] naman ito
[1:41:05] nagakusahan
[1:41:05] pero the same
[1:41:06] case naman po
[1:41:07] kailangan
[1:41:08] i-entertainin
[1:41:09] pa rin po ninyo
[1:41:09] di po ba
[1:41:10] yung ebidensya
[1:41:11] or kailangan
[1:41:12] yun
[1:41:12] bagong
[1:41:13] ebidensya
[1:41:13] na naman
[1:41:14] because
[1:41:14] different
[1:41:15] person
[1:41:15] itong
[1:41:16] nag-a-allege
[1:41:16] po
[1:41:17] na
[1:41:17] nag-aakusa
[1:41:18] kung bagong
[1:41:20] complainant po
[1:41:23] yun
[1:41:23] your honor
[1:41:24] hindi naman po
[1:41:25] magbabago
[1:41:26] yung investigation
[1:41:26] namin
[1:41:27] what the office
[1:41:28] usually do
[1:41:29] is parang
[1:41:30] kinokonsolidate
[1:41:31] namin yun
[1:41:32] dun sa naunang
[1:41:32] complaint
[1:41:33] against the same
[1:41:35] say lawmaker
[1:41:36] or senator
[1:41:37] or congressman
[1:41:38] so
[1:41:38] ikokonsolidate
[1:41:39] lang namin
[1:41:40] yung another
[1:41:40] complaint
[1:41:41] coming from
[1:41:42] a different
[1:41:42] complainant
[1:41:43] pero yung
[1:41:45] mga
[1:41:45] pieces of
[1:41:46] evidence
[1:41:46] yun din po
[1:41:47] yung magagamit
[1:41:48] po
[1:41:48] pero po
[1:41:49] pwede po ba
[1:41:50] na sabihin na lang
[1:41:51] na idiretsyo na lang
[1:41:52] sa ombudsman
[1:41:53] kasi po
[1:41:54] kung dito
[1:41:55] paulit-ulit
[1:41:56] na lang
[1:41:56] tayo
[1:41:57] hindi na po
[1:41:57] matatapos
[1:41:58] ang trabaho
[1:41:59] po
[1:41:59] ng Blue Ribbon
[1:42:00] at nakasentro
[1:42:01] lang ang
[1:42:02] investigasyon
[1:42:03] sa flood
[1:42:04] control
[1:42:04] baka naman
[1:42:05] na po pwede
[1:42:06] kung same
[1:42:06] individual yun
[1:42:07] isumiti na lang
[1:42:09] po diretsyo
[1:42:09] sa ombudsman
[1:42:11] para naman po
[1:42:12] hindi po
[1:42:12] ikang redundant
[1:42:14] na
[1:42:14] may investigasyon
[1:42:15] ko yung unggawing
[1:42:16] sa isang tao
[1:42:17] na ito
[1:42:17] kunwari si
[1:42:18] person A
[1:42:19] may darating na naman
[1:42:21] na inakosan si
[1:42:22] person A
[1:42:22] the same
[1:42:23] anomaly
[1:42:24] yung nga lang
[1:42:25] yung bagong tao
[1:42:26] na magsabihin
[1:42:27] na nagpaparatang
[1:42:28] po pwede po ba
[1:42:30] yung kanyang
[1:42:30] statements
[1:42:31] diretsyo na lang
[1:42:32] po sa ombudsman
[1:42:33] rather than
[1:42:34] iimbestigahan na naman po
[1:42:35] dito
[1:42:35] kasi hindi na po
[1:42:36] tayo matatapos
[1:42:37] marami po po
[1:42:38] problema
[1:42:38] ang ating bayan
[1:42:39] ang kailangan silipin
[1:42:40] iba ka redundant na po
[1:42:42] anong masasabihin niyan
[1:42:44] Your Honor
[1:42:45] the Office of the Ombudsman
[1:42:47] hindi naman yan
[1:42:49] never naman yan
[1:42:50] nagrefuse to accept
[1:42:51] documents submitted to it
[1:42:52] so
[1:42:53] kung isasabit po siya
[1:42:54] sa amin diretsyo
[1:42:55] we will always welcome it
[1:42:57] kung isasabit naman po siya
[1:42:59] sa Senate Blue Ribbon Committee
[1:43:00] you can always endorse it to us
[1:43:02] Alright
[1:43:03] thank you
[1:43:04] Senator Rafi
[1:43:04] Yeah
[1:43:05] Ma Karen
[1:43:08] nabanggit nga ganina
[1:43:10] ni Attorney Matibag
[1:43:12] ng NBI
[1:43:12] kalamihan doon
[1:43:14] sa labing walo
[1:43:15] na mga
[1:43:16] tawag kong kargador
[1:43:17] tawag nila
[1:43:17] bodyguards
[1:43:18] na paiba-ibang
[1:43:19] state
[1:43:20] said that
[1:43:20] siyempre gusto natin
[1:43:22] yung salarin
[1:43:23] talagang makasuhan
[1:43:24] at managot
[1:43:25] kung sino man yung
[1:43:27] mga talagang tumanggap
[1:43:28] ng pera
[1:43:28] Now how would you appreciate
[1:43:30] that
[1:43:30] complaints
[1:43:32] being forwarded
[1:43:33] to your office
[1:43:34] na
[1:43:35] yung affidavit
[1:43:36] ay paiba-iba
[1:43:37] tulad niya sa
[1:43:39] labing walong kargador
[1:43:41] eh gusto talaga natin
[1:43:42] madiin
[1:43:42] yung dapat madiin
[1:43:43] meron talagang tumanggap
[1:43:45] kung meron
[1:43:46] pero
[1:43:46] tulang binanggit ni
[1:43:48] Attorney Matibag
[1:43:49] paiba-iba yung
[1:43:49] statement nila
[1:43:50] tulak atras
[1:43:53] tulak atras
[1:43:54] at
[1:43:55] wala talagang
[1:43:56] definite na
[1:43:57] sila mismo
[1:43:58] ang nag-deliver
[1:44:00] sila mismo
[1:44:01] eyewitness
[1:44:02] at may mga dokumento
[1:44:04] mayroong screenshot
[1:44:05] may recorded
[1:44:06] conversation
[1:44:07] et cetera
[1:44:07] nothing like that
[1:44:09] kundi hearsay lamang
[1:44:10] so paano
[1:44:11] paano atake niya
[1:44:12] ng ombudsman
[1:44:13] para
[1:44:14] maging
[1:44:15] tight yung case
[1:44:16] against anybody
[1:44:17] na talagang
[1:44:18] tumanggap ng pera
[1:44:19] Your Honor
[1:44:21] that's why
[1:44:22] the office of the ombudsman
[1:44:23] required
[1:44:24] an individual
[1:44:25] complaint
[1:44:26] affidavit
[1:44:27] to verify po
[1:44:28] yung personal
[1:44:29] knowledge
[1:44:29] talaga
[1:44:30] ng bawat
[1:44:30] isa dun
[1:44:31] sa mga
[1:44:31] nag-submit
[1:44:32] ng
[1:44:32] affidavit
[1:44:35] kasi
[1:44:35] the office
[1:44:36] requires
[1:44:37] personal
[1:44:37] knowledge
[1:44:38] para
[1:44:38] upon
[1:44:40] evaluation
[1:44:40] ma-check
[1:44:41] namin
[1:44:41] agad
[1:44:42] kung
[1:44:42] this can
[1:44:43] stand
[1:44:44] yung preliminary
[1:44:45] investigation
[1:44:46] or pwede
[1:44:47] namin
[1:44:47] siyang
[1:44:47] i-refer
[1:44:48] for further
[1:44:48] pack
[1:44:48] finding
[1:44:49] unfortunately
[1:44:50] kasi
[1:44:50] pag
[1:44:51] i-refer
[1:44:51] mo siya
[1:44:51] sa pack
[1:44:52] finding
[1:44:52] dapat po
[1:44:53] talaga
[1:44:53] may
[1:44:54] verifiable
[1:44:54] leads
[1:44:55] at
[1:44:55] hindi
[1:44:55] kami
[1:44:55] magkakandak
[1:44:56] fishing
[1:44:57] expedition
[1:44:57] okay
[1:44:58] yung sinasabi
[1:45:00] nitong
[1:45:01] labing
[1:45:01] walo
[1:45:01] na
[1:45:02] sila
[1:45:03] talaga
[1:45:03] nagdeliver
[1:45:04] ng pera
[1:45:04] at walang
[1:45:04] ebedensya
[1:45:05] kung talagang
[1:45:06] pera
[1:45:06] ba yung
[1:45:06] laman
[1:45:06] ng maleta
[1:45:07] at hindi
[1:45:08] naman
[1:45:08] sila
[1:45:08] mismo
[1:45:08] ang
[1:45:08] nagbilang
[1:45:09] ng pera
[1:45:10] at walang
[1:45:11] matibay
[1:45:11] na
[1:45:11] ebedensya
[1:45:12] na
[1:45:13] meron silang
[1:45:13] pinig
[1:45:14] deliver
[1:45:14] ng
[1:45:14] tao
[1:45:14] kung
[1:45:14] sino
[1:45:15] man
[1:45:15] yung
[1:45:15] tao
[1:45:15] although
[1:45:15] we
[1:45:15] really
[1:45:16] need
[1:45:16] to
[1:45:16] know
[1:45:16] kung
[1:45:16] sino
[1:45:17] talaga
[1:45:17] dapat
[1:45:17] managot
[1:45:18] ang
[1:45:18] dapat
[1:45:18] managot
[1:45:18] I've been
[1:45:19] saying
[1:45:19] that's
[1:45:19] all
[1:45:19] along
[1:45:19] so
[1:45:20] paano
[1:45:21] magiging
[1:45:22] appreciation
[1:45:23] nyo
[1:45:23] doon
[1:45:23] sa
[1:45:24] affidavit
[1:45:25] ng taong
[1:45:26] dun
[1:45:27] sa
[1:45:27] labing
[1:45:27] walo
[1:45:27] your
[1:45:29] honor
[1:45:30] kung
[1:45:30] matanggap
[1:45:31] na
[1:45:31] namin
[1:45:31] halimbawa
[1:45:32] yung
[1:45:32] kanilang
[1:45:32] individual
[1:45:33] affidavit
[1:45:34] yung
[1:45:35] magsubmit
[1:45:35] na sila
[1:45:36] siguro
[1:45:37] po
[1:45:37] ang
[1:45:37] magiging
[1:45:38] ano
[1:45:38] namin
[1:45:38] is
[1:45:38] like
[1:45:39] I've
[1:45:39] said
[1:45:39] kung
[1:45:40] it
[1:45:40] can
[1:45:40] withstand
[1:45:41] po
[1:45:41] yung
[1:45:41] ano
[1:45:41] ng
[1:45:42] preliminary
[1:45:42] investigation
[1:45:43] kasi
[1:45:43] nga
[1:45:44] po
[1:45:44] meron
[1:45:46] na
[1:45:46] kaming
[1:45:46] bagong
[1:45:48] ano
[1:45:48] when it
[1:45:49] comes
[1:45:50] kanda
[1:45:51] preliminary
[1:45:51] investigation
[1:45:52] prima
[1:45:53] patch
[1:45:53] with
[1:45:54] reasonable
[1:45:54] certainty
[1:45:55] of
[1:45:55] conviction
[1:45:56] din po
[1:45:56] so
[1:45:58] kapag
[1:45:58] ang
[1:45:59] isang
[1:46:00] tao
[1:46:01] nag-issue
[1:46:01] ng
[1:46:01] affidavit
[1:46:02] na
[1:46:02] nagpaiba-iba
[1:46:03] na
[1:46:03] ng
[1:46:03] statement
[1:46:05] at
[1:46:07] lumilitaw
[1:46:07] na
[1:46:08] wala pala
[1:46:08] siyang
[1:46:08] first-hand
[1:46:09] information
[1:46:09] kung
[1:46:09] hindi
[1:46:10] nakuha
[1:46:10] lang
[1:46:10] niya
[1:46:10] o
[1:46:11] na
[1:46:11] ipasa
[1:46:11] lang
[1:46:11] niya
[1:46:12] sa
[1:46:12] kanya
[1:46:13] yung
[1:46:13] information
[1:46:13] na
[1:46:13] so
[1:46:14] David
[1:46:15] na
[1:46:15] yun
[1:46:15] sa
[1:46:16] ang
[1:46:16] bulsman
[1:46:16] your
[1:46:17] honor
[1:46:18] kasi
[1:46:18] nga
[1:46:18] po
[1:46:18] lahat
[1:46:19] ng
[1:46:19] mga
[1:46:19] complaints
[1:46:20] nag-undergo
[1:46:22] yan
[1:46:22] ng
[1:46:22] evaluation
[1:46:23] so
[1:46:23] yung
[1:46:23] mga
[1:46:23] nag-evaluate
[1:46:24] po
[1:46:24] samin
[1:46:25] are
[1:46:25] lawyer
[1:46:25] evaluators
[1:46:26] and
[1:46:27] then
[1:46:27] yung
[1:46:27] evaluation
[1:46:27] recommendation
[1:46:28] nila
[1:46:29] is
[1:46:29] subject
[1:46:30] to
[1:46:30] review
[1:46:30] and
[1:46:30] approval
[1:46:31] of
[1:46:31] our
[1:46:31] officials
[1:46:32] so
[1:46:32] based
[1:46:33] on
[1:46:33] I
[1:46:35] do
[1:46:35] not
[1:46:35] have
[1:46:35] any
[1:46:35] personal
[1:46:36] knowledge
[1:46:36] when
[1:46:36] it
[1:46:37] comes
[1:46:37] to
[1:46:37] the
[1:46:37] affidavit
[1:46:40] marines
[1:46:40] but
[1:46:40] I
[1:46:41] signed
[1:46:41] the
[1:46:42] notice
[1:46:42] address
[1:46:42] to
[1:46:43] attorney
[1:46:44] baligod
[1:46:45] that's
[1:46:45] why
[1:46:45] yun
[1:46:45] lang
[1:46:46] po
[1:46:46] yung
[1:46:46] binasa
[1:46:47] ko
[1:46:47] yung
[1:46:47] notice
[1:46:48] so
[1:46:48] ang
[1:46:48] nakalagay
[1:46:49] po
[1:46:49] dun
[1:46:49] sa
[1:46:49] notice
[1:46:50] nga
[1:46:50] dahil
[1:46:51] nga
[1:46:51] po
[1:46:51] hindi
[1:46:51] siya
[1:46:52] it
[1:46:53] cannot
[1:46:53] be
[1:46:53] considered
[1:46:54] personal
[1:46:54] knowledge
[1:46:55] na
[1:46:56] meron
[1:46:56] sila
[1:46:56] bawat
[1:46:57] isa
[1:46:57] dun
[1:46:57] sa
[1:46:57] 18
[1:46:58] personnel
[1:47:00] or
[1:47:00] people
[1:47:01] na
[1:47:01] yun
[1:47:01] last
[1:47:04] kahit
[1:47:06] na
[1:47:06] hindi
[1:47:06] dito
[1:47:06] sa
[1:47:07] 18
[1:47:07] merong
[1:47:10] nagsubmit
[1:47:10] ng
[1:47:11] complaint
[1:47:11] sa inyo
[1:47:12] with
[1:47:12] affidavit
[1:47:13] paano
[1:47:15] yun
[1:47:16] approach
[1:47:16] yun
[1:47:16] once
[1:47:18] na
[1:47:18] receive
[1:47:18] yun
[1:47:19] yung
[1:47:19] isang
[1:47:19] affidavit
[1:47:20] against
[1:47:20] anybody
[1:47:21] your
[1:47:23] honor
[1:47:23] the
[1:47:24] usual
[1:47:24] process
[1:47:25] ano
[1:47:26] yung
[1:47:26] hinahanap
[1:47:27] nyo
[1:47:27] doon
[1:47:28] sa
[1:47:28] nagsubmit
[1:47:29] ng
[1:47:29] affidavit
[1:47:30] pag
[1:47:31] nagsubmit
[1:47:31] po yun
[1:47:31] ng
[1:47:32] affidavit
[1:47:32] or
[1:47:32] complaint
[1:47:33] affidavit
[1:47:34] sa
[1:47:34] min
[1:47:34] your
[1:47:34] honor
[1:47:34] dumadaan
[1:47:36] po
[1:47:36] muna
[1:47:36] yan
[1:47:36] sa
[1:47:36] verification
[1:47:37] to see
[1:47:37] kung
[1:47:38] meron
[1:47:38] siyang
[1:47:38] similar
[1:47:39] or
[1:47:40] earlier
[1:47:40] complaint
[1:47:41] na
[1:47:41] so
[1:47:41] as
[1:47:42] na
[1:47:42] hindi
[1:47:42] siya
[1:47:43] mag
[1:47:43] doble
[1:47:43] doble
[1:47:44] so
[1:47:44] pag
[1:47:44] na
[1:47:45] verify
[1:47:45] say
[1:47:46] wala
[1:47:46] siyang
[1:47:46] existing
[1:47:47] complaint
[1:47:47] or
[1:47:47] previous
[1:47:48] complaint
[1:47:48] similar
[1:47:49] complaint
[1:47:49] sa
[1:47:50] office
[1:47:50] of
[1:47:50] the
[1:47:50] ombudsman
[1:47:51] it
[1:47:51] will
[1:47:51] undergo
[1:47:52] evaluation
[1:47:53] okay
[1:47:53] doon
[1:47:54] doon
[1:47:54] sa
[1:47:54] evaluation
[1:47:54] maghanap
[1:47:55] ba
[1:47:56] kayo
[1:47:56] ng
[1:47:56] pieces
[1:47:58] of
[1:47:59] evidence
[1:47:59] hard
[1:47:59] evidence
[1:48:00] to
[1:48:01] corroborate
[1:48:02] doon
[1:48:03] sa
[1:48:03] sinasabi
[1:48:04] niya
[1:48:04] sa
[1:48:04] kanyang
[1:48:04] complaint
[1:48:05] affidavit
[1:48:06] pwede
[1:48:07] pong
[1:48:07] ganun
[1:48:07] your
[1:48:08] honor
[1:48:08] kasi
[1:48:08] one
[1:48:09] of
[1:48:09] the
[1:48:09] recommendations
[1:48:10] na
[1:48:10] pwedeng
[1:48:10] gawin
[1:48:11] ng
[1:48:11] lawyer
[1:48:11] evaluator
[1:48:12] is
[1:48:12] to
[1:48:12] dismiss
[1:48:12] it
[1:48:13] outright
[1:48:13] kung
[1:48:14] makita
[1:48:14] nyo
[1:48:14] na
[1:48:14] frivolous
[1:48:15] lang
[1:48:15] yung
[1:48:15] mga
[1:48:16] complaint
[1:48:16] so
[1:48:17] in
[1:48:17] other
[1:48:18] words
[1:48:18] maghahanap
[1:48:19] kayo
[1:48:20] ng
[1:48:20] ebidensya
[1:48:21] like I said
[1:48:23] earlier
[1:48:23] na mag-corroborate
[1:48:24] doon sa
[1:48:25] sinasabi
[1:48:25] sa affidavit
[1:48:26] kasi
[1:48:26] kung hindi
[1:48:26] frivolous
[1:48:27] ngayon
[1:48:27] sabi mo
[1:48:28] initial
[1:48:30] evaluation
[1:48:31] pa lang
[1:48:31] po yun
[1:48:32] your
[1:48:32] honor
[1:48:32] pero
[1:48:32] still
[1:48:33] inevaluate
[1:48:33] po
[1:48:34] namin
[1:48:34] siya
[1:48:34] kung
[1:48:35] yung
[1:48:35] sinasabi
[1:48:35] niya
[1:48:36] sa
[1:48:36] affidavit
[1:48:36] is
[1:48:37] supported
[1:48:37] by
[1:48:38] evidence
[1:48:38] okay
[1:48:39] last
[1:48:39] so
[1:48:40] base
[1:48:41] po
[1:48:41] na
[1:48:41] sa
[1:48:41] mga
[1:48:41] narinig
[1:48:42] natin
[1:48:42] ngayon
[1:48:42] lahat
[1:48:43] doon
[1:48:43] sa
[1:48:43] sinabi
[1:48:43] ni
[1:48:44] director
[1:48:44] ng
[1:48:46] NBI
[1:48:46] na
[1:48:46] si
[1:48:47] attorney
[1:48:48] Melvin
[1:48:48] Matibag
[1:48:49] paano
[1:48:50] po
[1:48:50] madidescribe
[1:48:51] yung
[1:48:52] testimony
[1:48:54] o itong
[1:48:55] pinagsasabi
[1:48:56] nitong
[1:48:56] labing
[1:48:56] walong
[1:48:57] kargador
[1:48:58] your
[1:49:00] honor
[1:49:00] hindi
[1:49:01] ko
[1:49:01] po
[1:49:01] siguro
[1:49:01] pwedeng
[1:49:02] sagutin
[1:49:02] yan
[1:49:02] because
[1:49:02] I
[1:49:03] did
[1:49:03] not
[1:49:03] evaluate
[1:49:04] that
[1:49:04] affidavit
[1:49:05] I understand
[1:49:06] maraming salamat
[1:49:07] Mr.
[1:49:07] Chair
[1:49:07] follow up
[1:49:08] question
[1:49:08] Mr.
[1:49:09] Chair
[1:49:09] in
[1:49:11] interview
[1:49:11] ba
[1:49:11] ninyo
[1:49:12] at
[1:49:12] kinuha
[1:49:13] yung
[1:49:13] affidavit
[1:49:13] ni
[1:49:14] attorney
[1:49:14] Baligod
[1:49:15] yung
[1:49:16] 18
[1:49:17] marines
[1:49:17] po
[1:49:18] kahit
[1:49:18] kargador
[1:49:20] in-interview
[1:49:21] po namin
[1:49:22] isa-isa
[1:49:22] hindi po
[1:49:24] kasi
[1:49:24] hindi naman
[1:49:25] po siya
[1:49:25] subject
[1:49:26] actually
[1:49:27] gusto namin
[1:49:28] siya
[1:49:28] interview
[1:49:28] si Mike
[1:49:29] Defensor
[1:49:30] ayaw nila
[1:49:31] wala po
[1:49:32] kasi
[1:49:33] kaming
[1:49:33] content
[1:49:33] power
[1:49:34] to force
[1:49:34] them
[1:49:35] kung
[1:49:35] na-monitor
[1:49:36] nyo
[1:49:36] yung
[1:49:36] hearing
[1:49:36] dito
[1:49:37] o yung
[1:49:38] bogus
[1:49:38] na hearing
[1:49:38] siya
[1:49:39] ang
[1:49:39] nagpapaliwanag
[1:49:41] siya
[1:49:42] yung
[1:49:42] nagsasalita
[1:49:43] on behalf
[1:49:43] of the
[1:49:44] opo
[1:49:45] diba
[1:49:45] tama po
[1:49:46] nagtataka
[1:49:47] nga po
[1:49:47] kasi
[1:49:48] sa ganun ba
[1:49:49] pag siya
[1:49:49] ang nagpapaliwanag
[1:49:51] ano yun
[1:49:51] hearsay
[1:49:51] well
[1:49:52] ang nangyari
[1:49:53] na nga po
[1:49:53] niyan
[1:49:53] it validates
[1:49:55] and strengthen
[1:49:56] the findings
[1:49:56] of NBI
[1:49:57] na mukhang
[1:49:58] kinotes
[1:49:59] na tinuro
[1:50:00] kasi
[1:50:00] ganito po yan
[1:50:01] in-approach
[1:50:02] niya yung
[1:50:02] labing walo
[1:50:03] actually
[1:50:03] 26 nga po
[1:50:04] nung una yan
[1:50:05] naging labing walo
[1:50:06] tapos
[1:50:07] in-house niya
[1:50:08] mula November
[1:50:09] hanggang February
[1:50:10] at sa huyong
[1:50:11] nagsulat
[1:50:13] nung
[1:50:13] Joint
[1:50:13] Affidavit
[1:50:14] at tama po
[1:50:15] Mr. Chairman
[1:50:16] nagtataka nga ako
[1:50:17] medyo marami-rami na rin po
[1:50:19] nga akong
[1:50:19] na-attend naman
[1:50:20] na committee hearing
[1:50:21] na kung saan
[1:50:22] ang abogado
[1:50:23] sa likod
[1:50:23] pinapaupo
[1:50:24] at bihiram-bihirang
[1:50:25] pagsalitain
[1:50:26] yun po yung
[1:50:27] ipinagtataka ko
[1:50:27] bakit si
[1:50:28] Atty. Balikod
[1:50:29] ang
[1:50:30] nagsasalita
[1:50:31] baka mas mabuti po
[1:50:32] para sa akin
[1:50:33] gumawa na rin po siya
[1:50:35] ng sarili niyang
[1:50:35] Affidavit
[1:50:36] at siya na po
[1:50:37] mismo magreklamo
[1:50:38] base sa kanya
[1:50:39] mga narinig
[1:50:39] Yun lang ang tanong ko
[1:50:40] actually
[1:50:40] kasi nga
[1:50:41] yun nakita ko
[1:50:42] siya mismo
[1:50:43] and you're right
[1:50:44] and for the record
[1:50:45] it's a violation
[1:50:46] of our rules
[1:50:47] in Senate proceedings
[1:50:50] when a lawyer speaks
[1:50:52] and
[1:50:52] deliberates
[1:50:55] on the
[1:50:56] and represents
[1:50:57] not representing
[1:50:58] the resource persons
[1:51:01] so doong maliwanag
[1:51:02] na hindi dapat
[1:51:03] nagsasalita
[1:51:04] yung abogado
[1:51:05] dapat
[1:51:06] yung resource persons
[1:51:07] mismo ang nagsasalita
[1:51:09] and for the record
[1:51:10] we just wanted that
[1:51:10] clarified
[1:51:11] Thank you
[1:51:13] Senator Kiko
[1:51:14] is it
[1:51:15] just one quick
[1:51:16] kasi we'll just have to
[1:51:17] give the floor
[1:51:19] to individuals
[1:51:20] who want to ask questions
[1:51:22] Yes Mr. Chairman
[1:51:23] isang follow-up question po
[1:51:24] Salamat Mr. Chairman
[1:51:26] Follow-up question
[1:51:27] kay Sen Rafi
[1:51:30] kanina sa ombudsman
[1:51:32] sa NBI
[1:51:33] naman po
[1:51:33] meron po bang
[1:51:35] mapopoint out
[1:51:35] ang bureau
[1:51:36] na inconsistencies
[1:51:37] sa pagitan
[1:51:38] ng joint affidavit
[1:51:40] at yung limang
[1:51:41] individual affidavits
[1:51:43] na pinirmahan
[1:51:43] o sa pagitan
[1:51:45] ng limang
[1:51:46] individual affidavits
[1:51:47] any inconsistencies po
[1:51:49] yun na nga po
[1:51:50] nagbigay na ko
[1:51:51] ng example mismo
[1:51:52] nung tinanong
[1:51:52] si Nabidad
[1:51:53] at isasabit po namin
[1:51:56] ito
[1:51:56] itong mga aming interview
[1:51:57] tinanong siya
[1:51:58] kung nag-deliver siya
[1:52:00] ng maleta
[1:52:00] may deliver ba siyang maleta
[1:52:02] ang sambut niya
[1:52:02] wala
[1:52:03] pero dun sa kanilang
[1:52:04] mga joint affidavit
[1:52:05] may sinasabi
[1:52:06] Mr. Chair
[1:52:07] actually
[1:52:08] not only the affidavit
[1:52:10] na sinabit
[1:52:10] sa ombudsman
[1:52:11] yung pinagbasihan namin
[1:52:12] nakita rin po namin
[1:52:14] yung mga lumabas
[1:52:14] sa social media
[1:52:15] na unang affidavit
[1:52:16] at saka po yung testimony
[1:52:18] na po nung nakaraan dito
[1:52:20] at nakita na po namin
[1:52:22] yung mga inconsistencies
[1:52:23] in fact
[1:52:23] gumawa po kami
[1:52:24] ng parang diagram dyan
[1:52:26] nakalagay na po dyan
[1:52:27] ito yung affidavit dito
[1:52:29] ito yung lumabas
[1:52:29] at ano yung inconsistencies
[1:52:31] that will be part of our
[1:52:33] submission to the committee
[1:52:34] Mr. Chair
[1:52:34] Alright, thank you
[1:52:35] Salamat Mr. Chair
[1:52:36] Thank you
[1:52:37] Director of the NBI
[1:52:39] maraming salamat
[1:52:40] Committee Secretary
[1:52:41] are you here?
[1:52:44] Can you put this on record
[1:52:45] and then send someone
[1:52:47] from the Blue Ribbon
[1:52:49] Committee
[1:52:51] to go upstairs
[1:52:52] sa office po
[1:52:53] ni Senator Robin Padilla
[1:52:55] para to inquire
[1:52:57] the good senator
[1:52:59] kung sasamahan niya ba
[1:53:01] yung 18 bodyguards
[1:53:04] dito sa Blue Ribbon hearing
[1:53:06] just to put on record
[1:53:08] para ika nga
[1:53:09] mas maayos po
[1:53:10] dahil while we're
[1:53:11] conducting this hearing
[1:53:12] ongoing din po
[1:53:14] yung kanilang press conference
[1:53:15] po dun sa taas
[1:53:16] so might as well
[1:53:18] mabuti po
[1:53:18] bumaba na lang po
[1:53:19] sila dito
[1:53:20] para ika nga
[1:53:21] may lahat nila
[1:53:22] yung gusto nilang sabihin
[1:53:23] matanong po natin
[1:53:24] sila maayos
[1:53:25] unlike po dito
[1:53:26] na puro press conference
[1:53:27] po sila
[1:53:28] so committee secretary
[1:53:29] I'm directing you
[1:53:30] to send one of your
[1:53:32] staff or your personnel
[1:53:34] to invite
[1:53:35] or to ask
[1:53:36] Senator Robin Padilla
[1:53:37] inquire
[1:53:38] if they're still interested
[1:53:39] coming down here
[1:53:40] sa Blue Ribbon
[1:53:41] hearing po natin
[1:53:43] para malinaw po
[1:53:44] on record lahat
[1:53:45] hindi po yung
[1:53:46] bisita po natin
[1:53:48] ni Senator Robin Padilla
[1:53:49] yung 18 bodyguard
[1:53:51] na yun
[1:53:51] at si attorney Baligod
[1:53:53] at nagbibigay na
[1:53:55] sa 5th floor
[1:53:55] nagbibigay po
[1:53:56] ng press conference
[1:53:57] ang nagtatanong
[1:53:59] lamang po
[1:53:59] ang media
[1:54:00] and nandito po tayo lahat
[1:54:01] gusto po natin
[1:54:02] silang matanong
[1:54:03] at marinig
[1:54:03] ito po siguro
[1:54:05] ang tamang venue
[1:54:06] na ikang magpahayag
[1:54:09] sila
[1:54:09] hindi po
[1:54:09] sa isang
[1:54:10] media conference
[1:54:11] so committee secretary
[1:54:12] go ahead
[1:54:13] and send someone
[1:54:14] to the office
[1:54:15] of Senator Robin
[1:54:17] okay let's move on
[1:54:19] yung order of arrival
[1:54:21] po
[1:54:21] ng client of questioning
[1:54:22] Senator JV
[1:54:23] Senator Baum
[1:54:25] and
[1:54:25] Senator
[1:54:27] JV
[1:54:28] Senator Baum
[1:54:29] Senator Risa
[1:54:30] Senator Soto
[1:54:31] but before that
[1:54:35] may tatanong po
[1:54:36] yata
[1:54:36] si
[1:54:37] Senate
[1:54:38] Pro Tempore
[1:54:38] Gatchelian
[1:54:40] maraming salamat
[1:54:41] Mr. Chairman
[1:54:41] this is directed
[1:54:43] to
[1:54:44] attorney Matibag
[1:54:46] director of the NBI
[1:54:47] meron ho kayong
[1:54:49] mga
[1:54:50] nasabi sa media
[1:54:52] na merong informant
[1:54:53] actually
[1:54:54] tutuloy ko lang po
[1:54:55] yung
[1:54:55] tanong ni
[1:54:56] Senator
[1:54:57] Rafi
[1:54:58] na meron kayong
[1:54:59] informant
[1:55:00] na nagsabi na
[1:55:01] si Mike Defensor
[1:55:03] ay nag-offer
[1:55:04] ng 5 minutes
[1:55:05] as a narration
[1:55:06] of that
[1:55:06] and
[1:55:07] base sa inyong
[1:55:09] statement
[1:55:09] meron rin
[1:55:10] sinumpaang
[1:55:11] salay sa ito
[1:55:12] meron po
[1:55:14] kasi kaming
[1:55:15] sa NBI po
[1:55:16] we function
[1:55:16] na meron pong
[1:55:17] mga
[1:55:17] tinatawag kaming
[1:55:18] all power assets
[1:55:19] na
[1:55:20] nag-gather po
[1:55:22] ng mga
[1:55:22] intelligence
[1:55:22] report
[1:55:23] yan
[1:55:23] so
[1:55:24] he came across
[1:55:25] dito po
[1:55:26] sa parang
[1:55:26] hindi po
[1:55:27] son-in-law talaga
[1:55:28] but he
[1:55:29] is a partner
[1:55:30] of the daughter
[1:55:31] nung isa sa
[1:55:32] 18
[1:55:34] bodyguards
[1:55:36] I think
[1:55:37] siguro
[1:55:37] for
[1:55:38] purposes
[1:55:39] na
[1:55:39] mas malinaw
[1:55:41] pwede ko na rin
[1:55:43] siguro
[1:55:43] bangitin yung
[1:55:43] pangalan
[1:55:44] tutal
[1:55:44] napadala naman
[1:55:45] naman na siya
[1:55:46] ng
[1:55:46] nasa
[1:55:47] actually
[1:55:47] tatanong ko nga
[1:55:47] ano yung
[1:55:48] pangalan niya
[1:55:49] si
[1:55:49] Anselmo
[1:55:50] Taberdo po
[1:55:51] yung isa sa
[1:55:51] marines
[1:55:52] na
[1:55:52] may anak
[1:55:53] siya
[1:55:54] at partner
[1:55:55] niya po
[1:55:55] itong
[1:55:55] nakausap
[1:55:57] ng ating
[1:55:57] mga
[1:55:58] ehente
[1:55:58] at nagpahayag
[1:56:00] po siya
[1:56:00] ng malayang
[1:56:01] pahayag
[1:56:01] recorded din po
[1:56:02] ito
[1:56:03] noong
[1:56:03] April 28
[1:56:04] and I will also
[1:56:05] submit na
[1:56:06] yung pong
[1:56:08] parang
[1:56:09] salaysay niya
[1:56:10] na kanyang
[1:56:10] pinirmahan
[1:56:11] malayang
[1:56:11] pinirmahan
[1:56:12] na ang
[1:56:13] sinasabi po
[1:56:13] rito sa
[1:56:14] salaysay
[1:56:14] na
[1:56:15] itong si
[1:56:16] Anselmo
[1:56:17] Taberdo
[1:56:17] ay isa sa
[1:56:19] mga doon
[1:56:19] sa labing
[1:56:19] walo
[1:56:20] na in-approach
[1:56:21] ng grupo
[1:56:22] ni Mike
[1:56:22] Defensor
[1:56:23] at pinangakuan
[1:56:24] ng
[1:56:24] limang
[1:56:25] milyong
[1:56:25] piso
[1:56:25] kapalit
[1:56:26] ng
[1:56:26] pagsasalita
[1:56:28] ang sinabi
[1:56:29] malino pa nga po
[1:56:30] sinabi
[1:56:30] mag-a-appear
[1:56:31] sa media
[1:56:31] at
[1:56:32] magkakaroon
[1:56:34] ng testimonya
[1:56:35] so
[1:56:36] dun po
[1:56:37] ang pangako
[1:56:38] limang
[1:56:38] milyon
[1:56:38] at kaya po
[1:56:39] binabanggit
[1:56:39] niya to
[1:56:40] personal sa
[1:56:41] kanya
[1:56:41] sinabi niya
[1:56:41] na silang
[1:56:42] magka-partner
[1:56:43] may anak po
[1:56:44] silang isa
[1:56:44] ay pinangakuan
[1:56:45] ng
[1:56:45] 500,000
[1:56:47] para
[1:56:48] makapagnegosyo
[1:56:48] sila
[1:56:49] so
[1:56:50] ngayon
[1:56:51] nung tinatanong
[1:56:51] yung
[1:56:51] 500,000
[1:56:52] dun po
[1:56:53] naikwento
[1:56:53] na
[1:56:54] ang
[1:56:54] naibibigay
[1:56:55] pa lang
[1:56:55] daw
[1:56:56] ay
[1:56:56] 700,000
[1:56:57] pero
[1:56:57] eventually
[1:56:58] bumalik
[1:56:59] po siya
[1:57:00] nung
[1:57:00] May 6
[1:57:01] sa aming
[1:57:02] pong
[1:57:02] tanggapan
[1:57:03] para
[1:57:03] magdagdag
[1:57:04] pa ng
[1:57:04] kanyang
[1:57:04] testimonya
[1:57:05] at
[1:57:05] nilinaw
[1:57:06] niya
[1:57:06] na
[1:57:06] hindi pa
[1:57:07] pala
[1:57:07] nabibigay
[1:57:08] talaga
[1:57:08] yung
[1:57:08] 700,000
[1:57:09] 350,000
[1:57:11] pa lang
[1:57:12] yung
[1:57:12] nabigay
[1:57:12] at
[1:57:13] utay-utay
[1:57:14] pa po
[1:57:14] itong
[1:57:14] naibigay
[1:57:15] so
[1:57:16] nung
[1:57:17] magkakaroon
[1:57:19] nagpatawag
[1:57:20] dito
[1:57:20] nung
[1:57:21] June
[1:57:21] na
[1:57:21] yung
[1:57:21] pagdinig
[1:57:23] po nila
[1:57:23] rito
[1:57:23] we
[1:57:24] contact
[1:57:24] itong
[1:57:25] persona
[1:57:25] ito
[1:57:26] to
[1:57:26] validate
[1:57:26] ulit
[1:57:27] at
[1:57:27] katunayan
[1:57:28] sinusurveilas
[1:57:29] at sinusundan
[1:57:30] ba rin
[1:57:30] naman po
[1:57:31] namin
[1:57:31] siya
[1:57:31] kasi
[1:57:32] nga po
[1:57:33] kakaibat
[1:57:33] nito
[1:57:34] nagpadala
[1:57:34] na kami
[1:57:35] ng
[1:57:35] sabwina
[1:57:35] kay
[1:57:36] Mike
[1:57:36] Defensor
[1:57:37] at
[1:57:38] kay
[1:57:38] Anselmo
[1:57:39] Taberdo
[1:57:39] para
[1:57:40] magbigay
[1:57:40] lino po
[1:57:41] dito
[1:57:41] sa
[1:57:41] testimonya
[1:57:42] nitong
[1:57:43] tao
[1:57:43] na ito
[1:57:44] yun
[1:57:44] po
[1:57:44] yung
[1:57:44] sinasabi
[1:57:45] natin
[1:57:50] ang halaga
[1:57:50] namin
[1:57:51] at
[1:57:51] amin
[1:57:51] sinusundan
[1:57:53] director
[1:57:54] itong
[1:57:55] can you
[1:57:55] can you
[1:57:55] state
[1:57:56] the name
[1:57:56] of this
[1:57:57] informant
[1:57:57] is it
[1:57:57] possible
[1:57:58] siya
[1:58:00] 28 years
[1:58:01] old
[1:58:02] Fred
[1:58:03] Ragaza
[1:58:04] opo
[1:58:04] Brent
[1:58:05] Brent
[1:58:05] po
[1:58:06] and
[1:58:07] pwede
[1:58:10] rin
[1:58:10] po ba
[1:58:11] siyang
[1:58:11] dalin
[1:58:11] dito
[1:58:12] para
[1:58:12] magbigay
[1:58:12] ng
[1:58:13] personal
[1:58:13] testimony
[1:58:14] yun po
[1:58:14] ang pinapavalidate
[1:58:15] namin
[1:58:15] kung
[1:58:15] kasi
[1:58:16] tinatawagan
[1:58:17] ang huling
[1:58:17] pakikipag-usap
[1:58:18] po
[1:58:18] sa aming
[1:58:19] mga
[1:58:19] investigador
[1:58:21] ay tinatawagan
[1:58:22] siya
[1:58:22] ngayon
[1:58:22] ito
[1:58:23] ni Anselmo
[1:58:23] Taberdo
[1:58:25] Is he
[1:58:25] willing
[1:58:25] to come
[1:58:26] here
[1:58:26] to give
[1:58:26] his testimony
[1:58:27] i-ahalamin
[1:58:28] po namin
[1:58:28] yun po
[1:58:28] itanong
[1:58:29] namin
[1:58:29] dahil
[1:58:30] nung po
[1:58:30] siya
[1:58:30] kinuhuhan
[1:58:33] na namin
[1:58:33] ulit
[1:58:33] ng
[1:58:33] testimony
[1:58:34] eh
[1:58:35] mukhang
[1:58:36] sumasabay
[1:58:36] na tinatawagan
[1:58:37] sa bigla
[1:58:37] po
[1:58:38] ano ang
[1:58:38] motibo
[1:58:39] naman
[1:58:39] nitong
[1:58:40] taong
[1:58:40] to
[1:58:40] gusto
[1:58:43] malaman
[1:58:43] bakit
[1:58:43] siya
[1:58:44] biglang
[1:58:44] nag
[1:58:45] bigay
[1:58:47] ng
[1:58:47] ganitong
[1:58:48] information
[1:58:49] considering
[1:58:49] na
[1:58:50] parang
[1:58:50] son-in-law
[1:58:51] siya
[1:58:51] tinitingnan
[1:58:53] po
[1:58:53] namin
[1:58:53] base sa
[1:58:53] kwento
[1:58:54] niya
[1:58:54] mukhang
[1:58:54] meron
[1:58:55] ang
[1:58:55] diferensya
[1:58:55] yung
[1:58:56] magka
[1:58:56] partner
[1:58:56] at
[1:58:57] siya
[1:58:57] ngayon
[1:58:58] yung
[1:58:58] may
[1:58:58] dala
[1:58:58] sa
[1:58:58] anak
[1:58:59] niya
[1:59:00] so
[1:59:00] parang
[1:59:00] may
[1:59:00] personal
[1:59:01] reason
[1:59:01] po
[1:59:01] na
[1:59:02] tungkol
[1:59:02] sa
[1:59:02] kanilang
[1:59:03] relasyon
[1:59:03] at
[1:59:04] maaaring
[1:59:04] yung
[1:59:04] isang
[1:59:05] dahilan
[1:59:05] pinag-iisipan
[1:59:07] hindi dumating
[1:59:07] yung
[1:59:08] talagang
[1:59:08] pangako
[1:59:08] na
[1:59:09] 500,000
[1:59:10] bilang
[1:59:10] parte
[1:59:11] dun
[1:59:11] sa
[1:59:11] makukuha
[1:59:12] dapat
[1:59:12] na
[1:59:12] 5
[1:59:13] milyong
[1:59:13] piso
[1:59:13] yung
[1:59:15] parang
[1:59:15] may
[1:59:15] because of
[1:59:16] that
[1:59:17] personal
[1:59:17] circumstance
[1:59:18] nagsalita
[1:59:20] siya
[1:59:21] doon
[1:59:21] and
[1:59:22] based on
[1:59:22] your
[1:59:23] analysis
[1:59:23] itong
[1:59:24] informant
[1:59:25] is a
[1:59:25] credible
[1:59:26] witness
[1:59:28] itong
[1:59:29] si Ragasa
[1:59:30] si Mr.
[1:59:30] Ragasa
[1:59:31] Pag
[1:59:31] pinalidate
[1:59:32] po yung
[1:59:32] kanyang
[1:59:32] personal
[1:59:33] circumstances
[1:59:33] at
[1:59:34] relationship
[1:59:34] maari
[1:59:35] po
[1:59:35] talagang
[1:59:35] napagkwentohan
[1:59:36] doon na
[1:59:37] nga po
[1:59:37] Mr.
[1:59:38] Chair
[1:59:38] po
[1:59:38] mapasok
[1:59:39] yung
[1:59:39] aming
[1:59:39] kagustuhan
[1:59:40] na ipatawag
[1:59:41] si
[1:59:41] Anselmo
[1:59:42] Taberdo
[1:59:42] at si
[1:59:43] Mike
[1:59:43] Defensor
[1:59:43] para po
[1:59:44] mas
[1:59:45] pabigyang
[1:59:45] linaw
[1:59:45] yung
[1:59:46] testimony
[1:59:46] yung
[1:59:46] ibinibigay
[1:59:47] po
[1:59:47] nitong
[1:59:47] tao
[1:59:48] na ito
[1:59:50] base
[1:59:50] ba
[1:59:50] dun
[1:59:51] sa
[1:59:51] information
[1:59:51] na
[1:59:52] consummate
[1:59:53] ba
[1:59:53] itong
[1:59:53] 5 million
[1:59:54] na ibigay
[1:59:54] ba
[1:59:55] hindi
[1:59:55] pa po
[1:59:55] lumalabas
[1:59:56] po
[1:59:56] sa
[1:59:56] huling
[1:59:57] statement
[1:59:57] 350
[1:59:58] 350
[1:59:58] pa lang
[1:59:59] po
[1:59:59] yung
[1:59:59] kabuhang
[2:00:00] natatanggap
[2:00:00] pero
[2:00:01] may mga
[2:00:02] kwinento
[2:00:02] pa po
[2:00:03] siya
[2:00:03] na
[2:00:03] siya
[2:00:04] yung
[2:00:05] mga
[2:00:05] lugar
[2:00:06] kaya
[2:00:06] po
[2:00:06] nagkaroon
[2:00:07] ng
[2:00:07] credibility
[2:00:08] sinunda
[2:00:08] namin
[2:00:08] yung
[2:00:09] mga
[2:00:09] lugar
[2:00:09] na
[2:00:09] binabanggit
[2:00:10] kung
[2:00:10] nasaan
[2:00:11] yung
[2:00:11] labing
[2:00:11] walo
[2:00:12] e
[2:00:12] tumutog
[2:00:13] ma
[2:00:13] po
[2:00:13] sa
[2:00:13] kanyang
[2:00:14] story
[2:00:14] and
[2:00:16] nasaan
[2:00:17] na itong
[2:00:17] taong
[2:00:18] to
[2:00:18] is he
[2:00:18] under
[2:00:19] NBI
[2:00:20] custody
[2:00:20] wala po
[2:00:21] sa aming
[2:00:21] custody
[2:00:22] pero
[2:00:22] alam po
[2:00:24] namin
[2:00:24] kung sa
[2:00:25] siya
[2:00:25] nakatira
[2:00:25] dati
[2:00:26] pong
[2:00:26] nasa
[2:00:26] tagig
[2:00:26] lumipat
[2:00:27] po
[2:00:27] ng
[2:00:27] tirahan
[2:00:28] at
[2:00:28] amin
[2:00:28] po
[2:00:28] siyang
[2:00:28] minamanmanan
[2:00:29] po
[2:00:29] nakasurveillance
[2:00:30] po
[2:00:31] and
[2:00:31] then
[2:00:31] gusto ko
[2:00:32] lang
[2:00:33] rin
[2:00:33] matanong
[2:00:34] itong
[2:00:34] informant
[2:00:36] na ito
[2:00:36] nag
[2:00:37] an ba
[2:00:40] siya
[2:00:40] nag
[2:00:40] appear
[2:00:41] personally
[2:00:41] sa
[2:00:42] NBI
[2:00:42] opo
[2:00:43] dalawang
[2:00:43] beses
[2:00:43] po
[2:00:44] katunayan
[2:00:45] nung isang
[2:00:45] beses
[2:00:46] nagpunta
[2:00:46] siya
[2:00:46] meron
[2:00:46] pang isang
[2:00:47] video
[2:00:47] personality
[2:00:48] na nakapang
[2:00:49] cover
[2:00:49] po
[2:00:49] sa
[2:00:49] kanya
[2:00:49] at
[2:00:50] record
[2:00:50] it
[2:00:50] po
[2:00:51] lahat
[2:00:51] ang
[2:00:51] kanya
[2:00:52] pong
[2:00:52] pagdalo
[2:00:52] sa
[2:00:52] NBI
[2:00:53] po
[2:00:53] pasabit
[2:00:54] na lang
[2:00:54] sa amin
[2:00:58] yung
[2:00:58] video
[2:00:59] as well
[2:00:59] as
[2:00:59] yung
[2:01:00] transcripts
[2:01:01] ng
[2:01:01] interview
[2:01:01] we'll
[2:01:02] comply
[2:01:02] po
[2:01:03] we can
[2:01:03] look
[2:01:07] at it
[2:01:07] and
[2:01:08] then
[2:01:08] balikan ko
[2:01:09] lang
[2:01:10] kanina
[2:01:10] yung
[2:01:10] inyong
[2:01:11] presentation
[2:01:11] director
[2:01:12] based
[2:01:13] on
[2:01:13] your
[2:01:13] analysis
[2:01:14] doon
[2:01:15] sa
[2:01:15] mga
[2:01:15] sinumpa
[2:01:17] ang salaysay
[2:01:18] nung
[2:01:18] 18
[2:01:18] bodyguards
[2:01:19] anong
[2:01:21] analysis
[2:01:21] nyo
[2:01:21] bottom
[2:01:23] line
[2:01:23] kasi
[2:01:25] nakita ko
[2:01:25] marami
[2:01:26] kayong
[2:01:26] standards
[2:01:26] na sinusundan
[2:01:27] and these
[2:01:28] are legal
[2:01:28] standards
[2:01:29] na ayon
[2:01:29] sa batas
[2:01:30] but
[2:01:30] based on
[2:01:31] your
[2:01:31] analysis
[2:01:32] ano
[2:01:32] ano
[2:01:32] itong
[2:01:33] kanilang
[2:01:34] sinumpaang
[2:01:34] salaysay
[2:01:35] ano
[2:01:37] ang
[2:01:37] inyong
[2:01:37] analysis
[2:01:38] dito
[2:01:38] well
[2:01:38] unang
[2:01:39] una
[2:01:39] po
[2:01:39] yung
[2:01:39] pinagsamang
[2:01:41] sinumpaang
[2:01:41] salaysay
[2:01:42] nila
[2:01:42] na isinumiti
[2:01:43] sa
[2:01:43] ombudsman
[2:01:43] meryo
[2:01:45] marami
[2:01:46] pong
[2:01:46] kaduda
[2:01:46] duda
[2:01:47] sabi ko
[2:01:47] nga
[2:01:47] kung
[2:01:47] meron
[2:01:48] pong
[2:01:48] katotohanan
[2:01:50] doon
[2:01:50] at
[2:01:50] tibasin
[2:01:50] sa
[2:01:51] jersey
[2:01:51] mga
[2:01:51] 10
[2:01:51] to
[2:01:52] 20
[2:01:52] percent
[2:01:52] malaki
[2:01:53] na
[2:01:53] po
[2:01:53] yung
[2:01:53] 20
[2:01:53] percent
[2:01:54] at
[2:01:54] nung
[2:01:54] brinik
[2:01:55] doon
[2:01:55] pangunap
[2:01:55] po
[2:01:56] namin
[2:01:57] ito
[2:01:57] at
[2:01:57] tanungin
[2:01:58] isa-isa
[2:01:58] yung
[2:01:58] 18
[2:01:59] ay lalo
[2:02:00] pong
[2:02:00] napagtiba
[2:02:01] yung
[2:02:01] aming
[2:02:01] pananaw
[2:02:03] na ito
[2:02:04] ay hindi
[2:02:05] namin
[2:02:05] maaring
[2:02:05] magamit
[2:02:06] para
[2:02:06] magsampan
[2:02:07] ng kaso
[2:02:08] doon
[2:02:08] sa mga
[2:02:08] taong
[2:02:08] nabanggit
[2:02:09] at
[2:02:10] higit
[2:02:11] pa po
[2:02:11] dyan
[2:02:11] lumalabas
[2:02:13] na talagang
[2:02:13] mukhang
[2:02:14] sinulat
[2:02:15] at
[2:02:15] kinotes
[2:02:16] corroborated
[2:02:18] po
[2:02:18] yung
[2:02:19] pagsusulat
[2:02:19] nitong
[2:02:20] pinagsamang
[2:02:21] sinumpang
[2:02:22] salaysay
[2:02:22] in addition
[2:02:23] to
[2:02:24] distilling
[2:02:24] nan
[2:02:24] po
[2:02:24] namin
[2:02:25] yung
[2:02:25] mga
[2:02:25] pronouncement
[2:02:26] sa media
[2:02:27] sa social
[2:02:27] media
[2:02:28] yung
[2:02:28] unang
[2:02:29] mga
[2:02:29] lumabas
[2:02:29] na
[2:02:30] pinagsamang
[2:02:30] sinumpang
[2:02:31] salaysay
[2:02:31] ay marami
[2:02:33] pong
[2:02:33] inconsistency
[2:02:34] masyado
[2:02:34] na magiging
[2:02:35] problema
[2:02:36] po
[2:02:36] pag
[2:02:36] aming
[2:02:36] inakyat
[2:02:37] sa
[2:02:38] prosecution
[2:02:39] at pati
[2:02:39] na rin
[2:02:39] po
[2:02:40] sa
[2:02:40] korte
[2:02:40] kung
[2:02:40] ito
[2:02:41] itatayo
[2:02:41] and
[2:02:44] kung
[2:02:45] ganun
[2:02:46] meron bang
[2:02:48] violation
[2:02:48] of the
[2:02:49] law
[2:02:49] na ginawa
[2:02:50] itong
[2:02:50] mga
[2:02:51] taong
[2:02:52] ito
[2:02:53] meron
[2:02:54] silang
[2:02:54] sinumpang
[2:02:55] salaysay
[2:02:56] pumunta
[2:02:56] ba
[2:02:56] sila
[2:02:57] sa
[2:02:57] NBI
[2:02:57] to
[2:02:57] personally
[2:02:58] give the
[2:03:00] statement
[2:03:01] or
[2:03:01] meron ba
[2:03:02] silang
[2:03:02] personal
[2:03:03] narration
[2:03:03] sa
[2:03:03] NBI
[2:03:04] sinumpina
[2:03:04] po
[2:03:05] namin
[2:03:05] sila
[2:03:05] pumunta
[2:03:06] po
[2:03:06] sila
[2:03:06] yung
[2:03:07] una
[2:03:07] ayaw
[2:03:07] nilang
[2:03:07] magbigay
[2:03:08] ng
[2:03:08] pahayag
[2:03:09] so
[2:03:10] binigyan
[2:03:10] po
[2:03:10] namin
[2:03:11] ng
[2:03:11] pangalawang
[2:03:11] pagkakataon
[2:03:12] kasama
[2:03:13] po
[2:03:13] sa
[2:03:13] sinumpina
[2:03:13] dyan
[2:03:14] nga
[2:03:14] sila
[2:03:15] yung
[2:03:15] mga
[2:03:16] may
[2:03:16] kinalaman
[2:03:16] si
[2:03:16] Bishop
[2:03:17] Efren
[2:03:17] Tendero
[2:03:18] si
[2:03:19] Mike
[2:03:20] Defensor
[2:03:20] yung
[2:03:21] asawa
[2:03:22] po
[2:03:22] Mike
[2:03:22] Defensor
[2:03:23] mga
[2:03:24] ilang
[2:03:24] personalities
[2:03:25] po
[2:03:25] pero
[2:03:26] hindi po
[2:03:28] nagbigay
[2:03:28] ng
[2:03:28] testimony
[2:03:29] yung
[2:03:29] nung
[2:03:30] bumalik
[2:03:31] po
[2:03:31] sila
[2:03:31] yung
[2:03:33] po
[2:03:33] labing
[2:03:33] walo
[2:03:33] nagbigay
[2:03:34] po
[2:03:34] ng
[2:03:35] testimony
[2:03:35] nila
[2:03:35] pero
[2:03:36] dun
[2:03:36] po
[2:03:36] sa
[2:03:36] labing
[2:03:36] walo
[2:03:37] lima
[2:03:37] lamang
[2:03:38] po
[2:03:38] ang
[2:03:38] pumirma
[2:03:39] yung
[2:03:40] labing
[2:03:41] tatlo
[2:03:41] pinigilan
[2:03:42] ni
[2:03:42] Atty.
[2:03:43] Balikod
[2:03:43] na
[2:03:44] pirmahan
[2:03:44] at
[2:03:44] gusto
[2:03:45] niya
[2:03:45] ay
[2:03:45] kanya
[2:03:46] munang
[2:03:46] review
[2:03:46] yung
[2:03:47] naging
[2:03:47] mga
[2:03:48] statement
[2:03:48] nung
[2:03:48] labing
[2:03:49] walo
[2:03:53] bodyguards
[2:03:55] na hindi
[2:03:56] naman po
[2:03:56] natin
[2:03:56] pinayagan
[2:03:57] kaya
[2:03:57] meron po
[2:03:58] kaming
[2:03:58] hawak
[2:03:58] na limang
[2:03:59] yung
[2:04:00] interview
[2:04:00] po
[2:04:00] alam
[2:04:01] niyo
[2:04:01] po
[2:04:01] yung
[2:04:01] parang
[2:04:01] blatter
[2:04:02] na
[2:04:02] question
[2:04:02] and
[2:04:02] answer
[2:04:03] napirmahan
[2:04:04] po
[2:04:04] nung
[2:04:04] lima
[2:04:05] yung
[2:04:05] labing
[2:04:05] tatlo
[2:04:06] hindi
[2:04:06] na
[2:04:06] po
[2:04:06] pumirma
[2:04:06] I would
[2:04:07] assume
[2:04:07] na
[2:04:08] kung
[2:04:08] buoy
[2:04:09] yung
[2:04:10] loob
[2:04:10] mo
[2:04:10] magbigay
[2:04:10] ng
[2:04:11] testimony
[2:04:11] pupunta
[2:04:12] ka
[2:04:12] doon
[2:04:12] magbigay
[2:04:13] ka
[2:04:13] testimony
[2:04:13] permahan
[2:04:14] mo
[2:04:14] Tama
[2:04:15] po
[2:04:15] yan
[2:04:16] Mr.
[2:04:16] How come
[2:04:16] mayroon
[2:04:17] pang
[2:04:17] commotion
[2:04:18] and drama
[2:04:18] na nangyari
[2:04:19] na may
[2:04:19] pupunitin
[2:04:20] at hindi
[2:04:20] pumerma
[2:04:21] lahat
[2:04:21] Marahe
[2:04:22] pong drama
[2:04:23] nangyari
[2:04:23] yung unang
[2:04:23] patawag
[2:04:24] pa lang
[2:04:24] ano po
[2:04:25] actually
[2:04:25] nung unang
[2:04:26] patawag
[2:04:26] pa lang
[2:04:26] po
[2:04:27] mas mahaba
[2:04:27] pa
[2:04:28] yung
[2:04:28] naging
[2:04:28] salita
[2:04:28] ni
[2:04:29] Mike
[2:04:29] Defensor
[2:04:29] at
[2:04:30] ang
[2:04:30] abogado
[2:04:31] sa
[2:04:31] media
[2:04:31] ng
[2:04:31] NBI
[2:04:32] kaysa
[2:04:33] po
[2:04:33] makipag-usap
[2:04:34] ng
[2:04:34] maayos
[2:04:34] sa aming
[2:04:34] mga
[2:04:35] investigador
[2:04:35] at
[2:04:36] illegally
[2:04:37] binidio
[2:04:38] capture
[2:04:39] nila
[2:04:39] yung
[2:04:40] pag-iimbestiga
[2:04:41] tapos
[2:04:41] inilabas
[2:04:42] nila
[2:04:42] sa
[2:04:42] media
[2:04:43] so
[2:04:43] may
[2:04:44] mga
[2:04:44] behavior
[2:04:44] po
[2:04:44] na
[2:04:45] ganun
[2:04:45] pero
[2:04:45] ang
[2:04:45] naging
[2:04:46] instruction
[2:04:46] po
[2:04:46] natin
[2:04:47] sa ating
[2:04:47] mga
[2:04:47] investigador
[2:04:48] is to
[2:04:49] exercise
[2:04:49] maximum
[2:04:50] tolerance
[2:04:50] kasi
[2:04:51] alam
[2:04:51] naman
[2:04:51] po
[2:04:52] natin
[2:04:52] politically
[2:04:54] high
[2:04:54] profile
[2:04:55] itong
[2:04:55] kaso
[2:04:55] na
[2:04:56] ito
[2:04:56] kaya
[2:04:56] atin
[2:04:57] iningatan
[2:04:57] hanggang
[2:04:58] suno
[2:04:58] nagbigay
[2:04:59] na po
[2:04:59] sila
[2:04:59] ng
[2:04:59] pahayag
[2:05:00] nila
[2:05:00] at
[2:05:00] ayaw
[2:05:00] namang
[2:05:01] pirmahan
[2:05:01] kaya
[2:05:02] ang
[2:05:02] hirap
[2:05:02] din
[2:05:03] pong
[2:05:03] gamitin
[2:05:03] tama
[2:05:04] po
[2:05:04] pero
[2:05:05] meron din
[2:05:06] po
[2:05:06] kaming
[2:05:06] recording
[2:05:07] lahat
[2:05:07] po
[2:05:07] ng
[2:05:07] proceedings
[2:05:08] siningin
[2:05:09] namin
[2:05:09] ng
[2:05:09] kanilang
[2:05:09] consent
[2:05:10] na
[2:05:10] amin
[2:05:10] i-video
[2:05:11] record
[2:05:11] yung
[2:05:11] proceedings
[2:05:12] at
[2:05:12] meron
[2:05:13] po
[2:05:13] tayo
[2:05:13] noon
[2:05:13] ipakisubmit
[2:05:15] na lang
[2:05:15] sa
[2:05:15] committee
[2:05:16] so
[2:05:17] that
[2:05:17] we can
[2:05:17] analyze
[2:05:18] and also
[2:05:18] the
[2:05:18] full
[2:05:19] transcript
[2:05:19] para
[2:05:21] din
[2:05:21] mabasa
[2:05:23] namin
[2:05:23] at
[2:05:23] maanalyze
[2:05:24] namin
[2:05:24] dito
[2:05:25] and my
[2:05:25] last
[2:05:25] question
[2:05:26] Mr.
[2:05:26] Chairman
[2:05:26] before
[2:05:27] I
[2:05:27] go
[2:05:27] to
[2:05:28] any
[2:05:28] round
[2:05:28] two
[2:05:29] based
[2:05:30] on
[2:05:30] your
[2:05:30] analysis
[2:05:30] kung lima
[2:05:31] lang
[2:05:31] ang
[2:05:31] pumerma
[2:05:32] base
[2:05:33] sa inyong
[2:05:33] testimony
[2:05:35] ngayon
[2:05:35] can we
[2:05:36] take
[2:05:37] the
[2:05:37] entire
[2:05:38] testimonies
[2:05:41] kasi
[2:05:43] sabi nyo
[2:05:43] 10%
[2:05:44] yung
[2:05:45] masasabing
[2:05:47] direct
[2:05:47] information
[2:05:48] the 90%
[2:05:49] hindi
[2:05:49] so
[2:05:50] ano
[2:05:51] ang
[2:05:51] analysis
[2:05:52] ng
[2:05:52] NBA
[2:05:54] on this
[2:05:54] entire
[2:05:55] testimony
[2:05:56] or
[2:05:57] testimonies
[2:05:57] ang
[2:05:58] mahirap
[2:05:58] po
[2:05:58] yung
[2:05:59] 10%
[2:05:59] na
[2:05:59] totoo
[2:06:00] totoo
[2:06:00] naging
[2:06:01] empleyado
[2:06:01] naging
[2:06:02] empleyado
[2:06:03] sila
[2:06:03] ni
[2:06:03] Saldico
[2:06:04] na
[2:06:05] tapos
[2:06:06] totoo
[2:06:06] po
[2:06:06] na
[2:06:07] na
[2:06:09] na-assign
[2:06:09] kung
[2:06:09] kani-kanino
[2:06:10] totoo
[2:06:11] po
[2:06:11] na
[2:06:11] dating
[2:06:12] Marines
[2:06:12] yung
[2:06:12] iba
[2:06:13] yun
[2:06:14] po
[2:06:14] yung
[2:06:14] mga
[2:06:14] totoo
[2:06:15] ron
[2:06:15] totoong
[2:06:16] kakilala
[2:06:16] nila
[2:06:16] siguro
[2:06:17] yung
[2:06:17] ibang
[2:06:17] tao
[2:06:17] pero
[2:06:18] yung
[2:06:18] mismong
[2:06:19] allegasyon
[2:06:19] na po
[2:06:20] ng
[2:06:20] nangyaring
[2:06:20] krimen
[2:06:21] na
[2:06:21] nagdeliver
[2:06:21] sila
[2:06:22] ng
[2:06:22] pera
[2:06:22] directly
[2:06:23] yun
[2:06:23] po
[2:06:24] dapat
[2:06:24] yung
[2:06:24] alam
[2:06:25] nila
[2:06:25] hindi
[2:06:26] po
[2:06:26] nila
[2:06:31] binanggat
[2:06:32] ko
[2:06:32] kanina
[2:06:32] tinanong
[2:06:33] siyang
[2:06:34] direkta
[2:06:34] nung
[2:06:34] nag-iimbestiga
[2:06:35] kung ano
[2:06:37] yung
[2:06:37] diniliver
[2:06:37] niya
[2:06:37] Mareta
[2:06:38] ang sagot
[2:06:38] niya
[2:06:38] wala
[2:06:39] pero
[2:06:39] pag
[2:06:39] pinagsama-sama
[2:06:40] po
[2:06:40] yung
[2:06:41] pinagsamang
[2:06:42] salaysay
[2:06:43] magmumukhang
[2:06:44] maganda
[2:06:44] yung
[2:06:44] istorya
[2:06:45] at
[2:06:45] paniniwalaan
[2:06:46] pwedeng
[2:06:47] paniwalaan
[2:06:48] for
[2:06:48] purposes
[2:06:49] other than
[2:06:50] prosecuting
[2:06:51] or going
[2:06:52] after
[2:06:52] sa mga
[2:06:53] nagkamali
[2:06:53] mukhang
[2:06:54] hindi
[2:06:54] po
[2:06:54] titindig
[2:06:55] binanggit
[2:06:56] nga
[2:06:56] po
[2:06:56] kanina
[2:06:57] ni
[2:06:57] P.J.
[2:06:57] binabanan
[2:06:59] namin
[2:06:59] yung
[2:07:00] standard
[2:07:00] to
[2:07:01] probable
[2:07:02] cause
[2:07:03] eh
[2:07:04] hindi
[2:07:04] pa rin
[2:07:04] po
[2:07:04] lulusot
[2:07:05] eh
[2:07:05] hindi
[2:07:05] pa rin
[2:07:06] po
[2:07:06] papasok
[2:07:06] sa
[2:07:07] probable
[2:07:07] cause
[2:07:07] kasi
[2:07:08] gusto
[2:07:08] lang
[2:07:09] nga
[2:07:09] po
[2:07:09] namin
[2:07:09] makita
[2:07:09] na
[2:07:10] maimbestigahan
[2:07:10] yung
[2:07:11] mga
[2:07:11] binanggit
[2:07:12] na
[2:07:12] tao
[2:07:12] na
[2:07:12] gusto
[2:07:12] rin
[2:07:13] nila
[2:07:13] gusto
[2:07:13] rin
[2:07:13] po
[2:07:14] namin
[2:07:14] ipatawag
[2:07:15] ang
[2:07:15] problema
[2:07:15] po
[2:07:16] namin
[2:07:16] Mr.
[2:07:16] Chair
[2:07:17] pag
[2:07:17] ipinatawag
[2:07:18] namin
[2:07:18] base
[2:07:19] rin
[2:07:19] sa
[2:07:19] kanilang
[2:07:19] inilatag
[2:07:20] joint
[2:07:21] affidavit
[2:07:22] na yun
[2:07:22] eh
[2:07:23] baka
[2:07:23] po
[2:07:23] mukhang
[2:07:23] nagpipishing
[2:07:24] expedition
[2:07:25] kami
[2:07:25] at
[2:07:25] kami
[2:07:25] naman
[2:07:25] po
[2:07:26] ang
[2:07:26] papanagutin
[2:07:27] ng mga
[2:07:27] taong
[2:07:27] abing
[2:07:27] ipinapatawag
[2:07:28] po
[2:07:28] Thank you
[2:07:30] Mr.
[2:07:30] Chairman
[2:07:30] Maraming
[2:07:31] salamat
[2:07:32] Acting
[2:07:33] President
[2:07:34] Gatchelanda
[2:07:34] Senator
[2:07:35] JV
[2:07:35] It's
[2:07:36] your turn
[2:07:36] Thank you
[2:07:37] Mr.
[2:07:37] Chair
[2:07:37] Before
[2:07:38] we move
[2:07:38] on to
[2:07:39] another
[2:07:39] topic
[2:07:39] Siguro
[2:07:41] nabanggit
[2:07:41] kanina
[2:07:42] I'd just
[2:07:42] like to
[2:07:43] ask
[2:07:43] probably
[2:07:44] the
[2:07:44] NBI
[2:07:44] or
[2:07:45] DOJ
[2:07:46] Are there
[2:07:47] efforts
[2:07:47] to
[2:07:47] locate
[2:07:48] yung
[2:07:48] nabanggit
[2:07:49] na
[2:07:49] doon sa
[2:07:51] affidavit
[2:07:51] yung mga
[2:07:52] EA
[2:07:53] ni Saldico
[2:07:54] yung Paul
[2:07:56] Estrada
[2:07:56] Mark
[2:07:57] Tixay
[2:07:58] Roberto
[2:07:59] Albarigo
[2:08:00] ito yung mga
[2:08:01] nabanggit
[2:08:01] na rin
[2:08:01] ng mga
[2:08:02] Blue Ribbon
[2:08:03] Committee
[2:08:03] hearing
[2:08:04] na nakaraan
[2:08:04] na
[2:08:04] naalala ko
[2:08:06] na kasi
[2:08:06] na ito yung
[2:08:07] mga taong
[2:08:07] individual
[2:08:08] na malapit
[2:08:08] kay Saldico
[2:08:09] and they
[2:08:10] were also
[2:08:10] mentioned
[2:08:11] Mr.
[2:08:11] Chair
[2:08:11] doon sa
[2:08:12] affidavit
[2:08:13] ni
[2:08:14] Gilna Bidad
[2:08:15] at ni
[2:08:15] Ancel
[2:08:17] Taberdo
[2:08:17] Tama no
[2:08:18] Attorney
[2:08:19] Director
[2:08:20] they were also
[2:08:21] mentioned
[2:08:21] itong
[2:08:22] mga malalapit
[2:08:23] supposedly
[2:08:24] kay Saldico
[2:08:24] ang tanong ko
[2:08:26] na may
[2:08:26] effort ba tayo
[2:08:27] mahanap
[2:08:27] itong mga
[2:08:28] mga
[2:08:30] executive
[2:08:31] assistant
[2:08:32] o itong
[2:08:32] alleged
[2:08:33] bagman
[2:08:33] ni Saldico
[2:08:35] dahil
[2:08:36] kung
[2:08:36] sakasakali
[2:08:37] pagpalagay na
[2:08:38] natin
[2:08:38] merah
[2:08:39] 5-10%
[2:08:41] lang
[2:08:41] ang magagamit
[2:08:42] doon
[2:08:42] dahil kilala nila
[2:08:43] yung mga
[2:08:43] tao
[2:08:44] eh pwede
[2:08:44] pa rin
[2:08:45] magamit
[2:08:45] no
[2:08:46] Attorney
[2:08:47] Patibag
[2:08:48] meron bang
[2:08:48] effort
[2:08:48] to look
[2:08:49] for
[2:08:49] these
[2:08:50] individuals
[2:08:50] well
[2:08:51] we are
[2:08:52] willing
[2:08:53] to see
[2:08:53] issues
[2:08:53] of
[2:08:54] Pina
[2:08:54] to
[2:08:54] them
[2:08:54] pero
[2:08:56] yung
[2:08:56] identification
[2:08:58] nila
[2:08:58] sa
[2:08:59] personal
[2:09:00] circumstances
[2:09:00] hindi
[2:09:01] po
[2:09:01] maibigay
[2:09:01] sa amin
[2:09:02] nung
[2:09:03] 18
[2:09:03] Marines
[2:09:03] so
[2:09:04] if
[2:09:05] there's
[2:09:05] an
[2:09:05] effort
[2:09:05] there's
[2:09:06] a
[2:09:06] continuing
[2:09:06] effort
[2:09:07] lahat
[2:09:07] naman
[2:09:07] po
[2:09:08] dito
[2:09:08] yung
[2:09:08] mga
[2:09:08] binanggit
[2:09:09] make
[2:09:10] no
[2:09:10] mistake
[2:09:11] na
[2:09:11] ibig
[2:09:11] sabihin
[2:09:12] dahil
[2:09:12] hindi
[2:09:12] maayos
[2:09:13] yung
[2:09:14] pagkasalaysay
[2:09:14] dito
[2:09:15] sa
[2:09:15] pinagsamang
[2:09:17] hindi na namin
[2:09:18] titignan
[2:09:18] titignan
[2:09:19] pa lang po
[2:09:20] namin
[2:09:20] yun
[2:09:20] kaya lang
[2:09:21] yung
[2:09:21] magiging
[2:09:22] direction
[2:09:22] po
[2:09:22] natin
[2:09:23] sa halip
[2:09:24] na
[2:09:24] naging
[2:09:24] maluwag
[2:09:25] at mas
[2:09:25] mabilis
[2:09:26] yung
[2:09:26] direction
[2:09:26] ng
[2:09:27] pagpunta
[2:09:27] meron pa
[2:09:28] po
[2:09:28] nangyari
[2:09:29] na
[2:09:29] ganito
[2:09:30] na
[2:09:30] sa gabal
[2:09:30] po
[2:09:30] sa aming
[2:09:31] hangari
[2:09:31] na may
[2:09:31] patawag
[2:09:32] po
[2:09:32] yung
[2:09:32] mga
[2:09:32] taong
[2:09:33] dapat
[2:09:33] naming
[2:09:33] investigahan
[2:09:34] at
[2:09:35] maganda
[2:09:35] po
[2:09:35] kanina
[2:09:36] binanggit
[2:09:36] ni
[2:09:36] P.J.
[2:09:37] Padul
[2:09:37] yun
[2:09:37] I just
[2:09:39] like
[2:09:39] to
[2:09:39] take
[2:09:40] the opportunity
[2:09:40] na ang NBI
[2:09:41] katulong
[2:09:42] ang DOJ
[2:09:43] at saka
[2:09:44] ang Ombudsman
[2:09:45] tuloy-tuloy
[2:09:45] yung aming
[2:09:46] pag-iimbestiga
[2:09:47] at mga kasong
[2:09:48] aming inihahain
[2:09:49] doon sa mga
[2:09:50] dapat managot
[2:09:50] dito sa ating
[2:09:51] usapin na
[2:09:52] flood control
[2:09:53] issue
[2:09:53] po na to
[2:09:54] Ang ano lang
[2:09:56] dahil
[2:09:56] sabi nga natin
[2:09:58] pag sinabi mong
[2:09:59] Marines
[2:09:59] ibang
[2:10:01] pananaw
[2:10:04] alam natin
[2:10:04] na yan
[2:10:05] talagang
[2:10:06] buhay
[2:10:06] lahat
[2:10:07] i-a-ano
[2:10:08] yan
[2:10:08] i-a-alay
[2:10:10] niya
[2:10:10] para sa
[2:10:10] bayan
[2:10:10] ang sa akin
[2:10:13] lang po
[2:10:13] Mr.
[2:10:14] Chair
[2:10:14] kung
[2:10:16] siguro
[2:10:17] sabanggit
[2:10:18] ni
[2:10:18] yung
[2:10:18] atty.
[2:10:18] Matibag
[2:10:19] doon po
[2:10:19] kasi
[2:10:20] sa handling
[2:10:20] mukhang
[2:10:20] hindi maganda
[2:10:21] yung mga
[2:10:22] handler
[2:10:22] baaring
[2:10:23] doon
[2:10:24] sa mga
[2:10:24] kaunting
[2:10:25] kaya nga
[2:10:25] po
[2:10:25] nag-a-appealing
[2:10:26] na tayo
[2:10:26] doon
[2:10:26] sa lima
[2:10:28] na nag-execute
[2:10:29] ng
[2:10:29] apidabit
[2:10:30] maari
[2:10:31] pong
[2:10:31] may magamit
[2:10:32] pa doon
[2:10:32] kung
[2:10:34] sakasakali
[2:10:34] kaya
[2:10:35] lang
[2:10:35] kung
[2:10:35] nasingitan
[2:10:37] kasi
[2:10:37] ng
[2:10:37] handler
[2:10:38] na
[2:10:38] ibang
[2:10:39] informasyon
[2:10:39] dinagdag
[2:10:41] kung saan-saan
[2:10:41] pero dapat
[2:10:42] nag-concentrate
[2:10:44] din sila
[2:10:44] doon sa
[2:10:44] personal
[2:10:45] knowledge
[2:10:45] maaring
[2:10:46] mas nagamit
[2:10:47] pag napagtahitahe
[2:10:49] kung sakali
[2:10:49] Atty.
[2:10:50] Matibag
[2:10:50] kung
[2:10:50] nahanap
[2:10:51] itong
[2:10:52] Paul Estrada
[2:10:52] Mark Dixay
[2:10:53] Albarigo
[2:10:54] at
[2:10:55] naitahe
[2:10:56] doon
[2:10:56] kailan
[2:10:56] na
[2:10:56] Bidad
[2:10:56] at
[2:10:57] Taberdo
[2:10:57] maaring
[2:10:59] may magamit
[2:10:59] kung hindi
[2:11:00] lang siguro
[2:11:01] na sinasabi
[2:11:02] nyo
[2:11:02] na coach
[2:11:03] na mali
[2:11:04] o
[2:11:04] na dagdagan
[2:11:05] maari
[2:11:06] ho bang
[2:11:06] magamit
[2:11:07] itong
[2:11:07] kung sakasakali
[2:11:08] mahanap
[2:11:08] nyo itong
[2:11:09] mga
[2:11:10] sinasabing
[2:11:11] bagman
[2:11:11] at yung
[2:11:12] EA
[2:11:12] ni Saldico
[2:11:13] doon
[2:11:14] dahil
[2:11:15] nabangit
[2:11:16] nyo rin
[2:11:16] kanina
[2:11:16] yung
[2:11:17] sa mga lima
[2:11:18] na nag-apply
[2:11:18] David
[2:11:19] na-assign
[2:11:21] po talaga
[2:11:21] sila
[2:11:22] kay Mr.
[2:11:22] Saldico
[2:11:23] Well
[2:11:24] ito naman pong
[2:11:25] aming findings
[2:11:26] na to
[2:11:26] including po
[2:11:27] yung nakuha
[2:11:28] na aming mga
[2:11:28] testimonya
[2:11:29] doon sa mga
[2:11:29] Marines
[2:11:30] we are
[2:11:30] officially
[2:11:31] sharing it
[2:11:32] to the
[2:11:32] DOJ
[2:11:32] and to the
[2:11:33] Office
[2:11:33] of the
[2:11:33] Ombudsman
[2:11:34] for proper
[2:11:35] disposition
[2:11:35] kung maalala nyo
[2:11:36] po
[2:11:36] yung aming
[2:11:37] pagkilos
[2:11:38] based on
[2:11:38] the letter
[2:11:39] deputizing
[2:11:40] us
[2:11:41] by the
[2:11:41] Ombudsman
[2:11:42] to do
[2:11:42] the
[2:11:42] background
[2:11:43] investigation
[2:11:43] so
[2:11:44] that is
[2:11:45] a background
[2:11:45] investigation
[2:11:46] yung pong
[2:11:47] mga
[2:11:47] binanggit
[2:11:47] nila roon
[2:11:48] will be
[2:11:49] properly
[2:11:49] assessed
[2:11:49] by the
[2:11:50] Office
[2:11:50] of the
[2:11:50] Ombudsman
[2:11:51] in the
[2:11:51] Department
[2:11:51] of Justice
[2:11:52] and
[2:11:53] we take
[2:11:54] your advice
[2:11:55] po
[2:11:55] at sabi ko
[2:11:56] nga
[2:11:56] ito pong
[2:11:57] kasong
[2:11:57] ito
[2:11:57] hindi pa
[2:11:58] po sarado
[2:11:58] tuloy-tuloy
[2:11:59] yung pag-iimbestiga
[2:12:00] ngayari
[2:12:01] lamang po
[2:12:01] nung lumabas
[2:12:02] nga itong
[2:12:02] payag
[2:12:03] ng 18
[2:12:03] bodyguards
[2:12:05] na to
[2:12:05] sa halip
[2:12:06] na parang
[2:12:07] luminaw
[2:12:07] mas lumabo
[2:12:08] mas humaba
[2:12:10] po yung
[2:12:10] prosesong
[2:12:11] ating gagawin
[2:12:11] para habulin
[2:12:12] natin
[2:12:13] yung mga
[2:12:13] mananagot
[2:12:14] po
[2:12:14] dito
[2:12:14] sa issue
[2:12:14] ng
[2:12:15] flood control
[2:12:15] na ito
[2:12:16] kaya nga po
[2:12:17] nag ano
[2:12:18] papasalamat tayo
[2:12:20] sa ating
[2:12:20] chairperson
[2:12:21] si
[2:12:21] Sen. Erwin
[2:12:23] Tulfo
[2:12:24] na binagbibigyan
[2:12:25] sana na
[2:12:25] pagkakataon
[2:12:26] yung
[2:12:27] labing
[2:12:28] walo
[2:12:29] na maihayag
[2:12:31] yung kanilang
[2:12:31] nalalaman
[2:12:32] na sa halip
[2:12:33] na nagprescon
[2:12:34] maaaring
[2:12:35] doon sa mga
[2:12:36] kasi iba yung
[2:12:37] pagpumirma ka
[2:12:37] kahit papano
[2:12:39] tinitindigan mo
[2:12:40] yun eh
[2:12:40] so maaaring
[2:12:41] may magamit
[2:12:42] doon
[2:12:42] mapagtahitahin
[2:12:43] natin
[2:12:44] kumahanap
[2:12:44] itong mga
[2:12:45] individual na ito
[2:12:46] kaysa
[2:12:46] umiwas po sila
[2:12:48] kaya hindi natin
[2:12:49] pinalalabas ito
[2:12:50] Mr. Chair
[2:12:50] salamat
[2:12:51] at inimbitan mo sila
[2:12:52] na i-discredit sila
[2:12:54] kundi
[2:12:54] kung may magagamit
[2:12:55] doon
[2:12:55] bakit hindi
[2:12:56] diba
[2:12:56] I'm sure
[2:12:56] si Atty. Matibag
[2:12:57] would agree
[2:12:58] na doon
[2:12:59] sa kahit
[2:13:00] sampung
[2:13:00] porsyento
[2:13:01] eh kung magagamit
[2:13:03] magtatahitahin
[2:13:03] natin ito
[2:13:04] eh matutunto
[2:13:05] natin
[2:13:05] kung may delivery
[2:13:07] nga
[2:13:07] mayroong
[2:13:08] ang delivery
[2:13:08] kung mayroong
[2:13:09] itong mga
[2:13:09] bagman na ito
[2:13:10] may kinalaman
[2:13:11] talaga
[2:13:11] para
[2:13:13] talaga
[2:13:13] malaman na natin
[2:13:14] itong mga tunay
[2:13:15] na may salarin
[2:13:16] dito sa
[2:13:17] buong
[2:13:18] modus na ito
[2:13:21] Yan
[2:13:21] ano lang po
[2:13:23] salamat po sa
[2:13:24] tanong ni
[2:13:24] Senator JB
[2:13:25] Mr. Chair
[2:13:26] let me state po
[2:13:28] that the NBI
[2:13:29] will be relentless
[2:13:29] in pursuing
[2:13:30] those who violate
[2:13:32] the law
[2:13:32] lalo na po
[2:13:33] dito sa issue
[2:13:34] ng corruption
[2:13:34] that is the
[2:13:35] commitment po
[2:13:36] ng NBI
[2:13:36] dito sa committee
[2:13:37] na ito
[2:13:38] just to cite
[2:13:39] an example
[2:13:40] just recently
[2:13:40] we are going
[2:13:41] after politically
[2:13:42] exposed persons
[2:13:43] recently po
[2:13:44] we arrested
[2:13:45] a director
[2:13:45] from SEC
[2:13:46] na
[2:13:47] nag-i-extort po
[2:13:49] at meron po
[2:13:50] kaming sinusundad
[2:13:50] din na lead
[2:13:51] na
[2:13:52] medyo malaking
[2:13:53] personality po
[2:13:54] na
[2:13:54] hindi lang namin
[2:13:56] ibibigay po po
[2:13:57] yung bond
[2:13:57] detalye
[2:13:58] pero
[2:13:58] meron pong
[2:13:59] dalawa
[2:13:59] na malaking
[2:14:00] personality
[2:14:01] na tingin namin
[2:14:02] ay gumamit
[2:14:04] ng mga dami po
[2:14:05] para itago
[2:14:06] itong issue po
[2:14:06] doon
[2:14:06] ang flood control
[2:14:07] po
[2:14:07] Before we go
[2:14:11] to Senator Baum
[2:14:12] just want to
[2:14:12] remind everybody
[2:14:13] yung report po
[2:14:15] sa atin
[2:14:16] ng
[2:14:16] Blue Ribbon
[2:14:18] Committee Secretariat
[2:14:20] ay nagaantay
[2:14:21] pa rin po sila
[2:14:22] ng sagot
[2:14:23] sa taas
[2:14:23] ayaw po silang
[2:14:24] bigyan ng sagot
[2:14:25] binibigyan po
[2:14:28] natin ng chance
[2:14:29] we're inviting
[2:14:29] them to
[2:14:30] to attend
[2:14:31] this hearing
[2:14:32] ang sagot po
[2:14:33] ng attorney po nila
[2:14:34] si attorney baligod
[2:14:35] natatakot daw
[2:14:36] yata na
[2:14:37] pag nag-attend
[2:14:37] naman po sila
[2:14:38] dito
[2:14:38] baka isight
[2:14:39] lang po
[2:14:39] ng contempt
[2:14:40] ng
[2:14:41] committee
[2:14:42] hindi naman po
[2:14:43] ganun
[2:14:43] dahil ito po
[2:14:43] invitation
[2:14:44] lamang po
[2:14:45] naman
[2:14:45] hindi po ba
[2:14:46] and this is
[2:14:47] just a meeting
[2:14:47] but anyway
[2:14:48] go ahead
[2:14:49] Sen
[2:14:52] Bang
[2:14:53] maraming salamat
[2:14:54] Mr. Chairman
[2:14:54] isa lang po
[2:14:56] itong
[2:14:57] manifestation
[2:14:58] marami po
[2:14:59] tayong tanong
[2:15:00] at yung mga
[2:15:01] tanong
[2:15:01] natin
[2:15:02] ay para sa
[2:15:03] 18
[2:15:04] bodyguards
[2:15:06] na
[2:15:06] hinihikayat pa rin
[2:15:07] po nating
[2:15:08] mag-attend
[2:15:09] dito po
[2:15:09] sa ating
[2:15:10] meeting
[2:15:10] eventually
[2:15:11] magiging
[2:15:12] hearing po
[2:15:12] ito
[2:15:13] and under
[2:15:13] oath
[2:15:14] mapag-uusapan
[2:15:15] yung
[2:15:15] kanilang
[2:15:16] sinasabi
[2:15:17] at malalaman
[2:15:18] natin
[2:15:18] yung
[2:15:18] katotohanan
[2:15:19] pero siguro
[2:15:20] po
[2:15:20] yung mongkahi
[2:15:21] ko na lang
[2:15:21] to the
[2:15:22] agencies
[2:15:22] in front
[2:15:23] of us
[2:15:23] ang DOJ
[2:15:24] ang NBI
[2:15:25] at ang
[2:15:26] ombudsman
[2:15:27] ito po
[2:15:29] palagay ko
[2:15:30] ito po
[2:15:30] yung pakiramdam
[2:15:31] ng maraming
[2:15:31] tao
[2:15:31] kailangan
[2:15:33] nating
[2:15:33] i-resolve
[2:15:33] itong
[2:15:34] issue
[2:15:34] ng
[2:15:34] flood
[2:15:35] control
[2:15:35] mag-iisang
[2:15:37] taon na po
[2:15:37] ang
[2:15:38] sonah
[2:15:39] yung sonah
[2:15:40] po
[2:15:40] last year
[2:15:41] dun po
[2:15:42] lumabas
[2:15:42] yung
[2:15:43] mahiyan
[2:15:44] naman
[2:15:44] kayo
[2:15:45] at mag-iisang
[2:15:46] taon na po
[2:15:46] yan
[2:15:46] next month
[2:15:47] na po
[2:15:47] yan
[2:15:48] so huwag
[2:15:49] na po
[2:15:49] natin
[2:15:49] paubutin
[2:15:50] ng isang
[2:15:51] taon
[2:15:51] na yung
[2:15:51] pinakamalalaking
[2:15:52] isda
[2:15:53] ay hindi
[2:15:53] po
[2:15:53] nahuhuli
[2:15:55] at sana
[2:15:56] po
[2:15:56] gawin
[2:15:56] natin
[2:15:57] yan
[2:15:57] na wala
[2:15:57] tayong
[2:15:58] kinikilingan
[2:15:59] we follow
[2:16:00] the law
[2:16:01] we follow
[2:16:02] where the
[2:16:02] evidence
[2:16:03] leads
[2:16:03] us
[2:16:04] at
[2:16:04] gawin
[2:16:05] po
[2:16:05] natin
[2:16:05] yung
[2:16:05] narapat
[2:16:06] kasi
[2:16:07] alam
[2:16:07] nyo po
[2:16:07] may nagsasabi
[2:16:08] kasi
[2:16:08] nakalimutan
[2:16:09] na yung
[2:16:10] issue
[2:16:11] ng flood
[2:16:11] control
[2:16:12] yun po
[2:16:12] yung mga
[2:16:12] binabato
[2:16:13] po rin
[2:16:13] po
[2:16:13] pero
[2:16:14] hindi po
[2:16:15] nakakalimutan
[2:16:15] yung
[2:16:16] flood
[2:16:16] control
[2:16:16] dahil
[2:16:17] meron
[2:16:18] pong
[2:16:18] magpapaalala
[2:16:19] sa atin
[2:16:19] ng
[2:16:20] flood
[2:16:20] control
[2:16:20] yung
[2:16:21] panahon
[2:16:21] dahil
[2:16:22] rainy
[2:16:22] season
[2:16:23] na rin
[2:16:23] po
[2:16:23] ngayon
[2:16:24] kapag
[2:16:24] bumabaha
[2:16:25] na po
[2:16:25] sa Metro
[2:16:26] Manila
[2:16:26] sa Cebu
[2:16:27] sa Iloilo
[2:16:28] at napakarami
[2:16:29] pa mga
[2:16:29] lugar
[2:16:30] pag
[2:16:30] bumabaha
[2:16:31] na po
[2:16:31] sa buong
[2:16:32] kapuloan
[2:16:32] natin
[2:16:33] maalala
[2:16:38] nangyari
[2:16:38] kaya
[2:16:39] mahalaga
[2:16:40] po na
[2:16:40] ituloy
[2:16:41] po yung
[2:16:42] hearing
[2:16:42] ituloy
[2:16:43] po yung
[2:16:44] investigasyon
[2:16:44] at sana
[2:16:45] po
[2:16:45] ma-resolve
[2:16:46] na po
[2:16:46] natin
[2:16:46] ito
[2:16:47] bago
[2:16:47] pa
[2:16:47] umabot
[2:16:48] ng
[2:16:48] one-year
[2:16:49] anniversary
[2:16:50] na kung
[2:16:51] saan
[2:16:51] po
[2:16:51] una
[2:16:51] itong
[2:16:52] nailabas
[2:16:53] no
[2:16:53] habang
[2:16:54] hindi
[2:16:55] pa po
[2:16:55] ito
[2:16:55] nare-resolve
[2:16:56] ba
[2:16:56] tuloy
[2:16:56] tuloy
[2:16:57] po
[2:16:57] ang mga
[2:16:58] tanong
[2:16:58] ng
[2:16:58] taong
[2:16:58] bayan
[2:16:59] kung
[2:16:59] siniseryoso
[2:17:00] ba
[2:17:00] natin
[2:17:00] ang
[2:17:00] issue
[2:17:01] na
[2:17:01] ito
[2:17:01] at
[2:17:01] mahalaga
[2:17:02] po
[2:17:02] naseryosohin
[2:17:03] po
[2:17:03] natin
[2:17:03] ito
[2:17:03] isa
[2:17:04] po
[2:17:04] ito
[2:17:04] sa
[2:17:04] pinakamalaking
[2:17:05] nakawan
[2:17:06] sa buong
[2:17:07] kasaysayan
[2:17:07] ng ating
[2:17:08] bansa
[2:17:08] at
[2:17:09] alam
[2:17:09] ko
[2:17:09] mahirap
[2:17:09] ang
[2:17:09] trabaho
[2:17:10] ninyo
[2:17:10] kada
[2:17:11] hakbang
[2:17:12] may
[2:17:13] bumabatikos
[2:17:14] alam
[2:17:14] ko
[2:17:14] yan
[2:17:15] pero
[2:17:16] siguro
[2:17:17] para
[2:17:17] rin
[2:17:17] sa
[2:17:18] taong
[2:17:18] bayan
[2:17:18] let's
[2:17:20] do
[2:17:21] our
[2:17:21] best
[2:17:21] I know
[2:17:22] everyone
[2:17:22] is
[2:17:23] trying
[2:17:23] their
[2:17:23] hardest
[2:17:24] but
[2:17:24] mahalaga
[2:17:25] siguro
[2:17:25] itong
[2:17:25] sense
[2:17:26] of
[2:17:26] urgency
[2:17:26] natin
[2:17:27] na
[2:17:27] magkaroon
[2:17:27] ng
[2:17:27] resolution
[2:17:28] ang
[2:17:29] issue
[2:17:29] na
[2:17:29] ito
[2:17:29] mahuli
[2:17:30] ang
[2:17:30] dapat
[2:17:31] mahuli
[2:17:31] yung
[2:17:31] talagang
[2:17:32] nasa
[2:17:33] likod
[2:17:33] nito
[2:17:33] mastermind
[2:17:34] kung saan
[2:17:34] pa po
[2:17:34] ito
[2:17:35] papunta
[2:17:35] kailangan
[2:17:36] po
[2:17:36] mahuli
[2:17:37] na
[2:17:37] para
[2:17:38] maka
[2:17:38] move
[2:17:38] on
[2:17:38] na
[2:17:38] rin
[2:17:39] po
[2:17:39] tayo
[2:17:39] dito
[2:17:39] po
[2:17:40] sa
[2:17:40] ating
[2:17:40] mga
[2:17:40] kailangan
[2:17:41] gawin
[2:17:42] dito
[2:17:42] po
[2:17:42] sa
[2:17:42] ating
[2:17:42] bansa
[2:17:43] napakarami
[2:17:43] pong
[2:17:44] issue
[2:17:44] napakarami
[2:17:45] pong
[2:17:45] krisis
[2:17:45] ngayon
[2:17:46] lang
[2:17:46] po
[2:17:46] nagkaroon
[2:17:46] ng
[2:17:47] earthquake
[2:17:47] po
[2:17:47] sa
[2:17:48] Mindanao
[2:17:48] at
[2:17:48] marami
[2:17:49] po
[2:17:49] sa
[2:17:49] amin
[2:17:50] pagkatapos
[2:17:51] po
[2:17:51] ng
[2:17:52] hearing
[2:17:52] na
[2:17:52] ito
[2:17:52] ay
[2:17:52] a-action
[2:17:53] na
[2:17:53] po
[2:17:53] namin
[2:17:54] yung
[2:17:54] iba't
[2:17:54] ibang
[2:17:54] pwedeng
[2:17:55] gawin
[2:17:55] po
[2:17:55] doon
[2:17:55] pero
[2:17:56] habang
[2:17:56] di pa
[2:17:57] po
[2:17:57] ito
[2:17:57] nabibigyan
[2:17:58] ng
[2:17:58] tamang
[2:17:59] resolusyon
[2:17:59] patuloy
[2:18:00] po
[2:18:00] yung
[2:18:01] sugot
[2:18:01] na
[2:18:01] ito
[2:18:01] sa
[2:18:02] ating
[2:18:02] bansa
[2:18:02] na
[2:18:02] kailangan
[2:18:03] pong
[2:18:03] magkaroon
[2:18:04] na
[2:18:04] po
[2:18:04] ng
[2:18:04] lunas
[2:18:05] yun
[2:18:05] lang
[2:18:05] po
[2:18:05] Mr.
[2:18:05] Chairman
[2:18:06] maraming
[2:18:06] salamat
[2:18:07] po
[2:18:07] sa
[2:18:07] mga
[2:18:07] resource
[2:18:07] persons
[2:18:08] po
[2:18:08] natin
[2:18:08] Thank you
[2:18:09] Senator
[2:18:09] Bam
[2:18:09] after
[2:18:10] Senator
[2:18:10] Soto
[2:18:10] will be
[2:18:11] Senator
[2:18:11] Riz
[2:18:12] Go ahead
[2:18:13] po
[2:18:14] Senator
[2:18:15] Soto
[2:18:25] but
[2:18:26] after
[2:18:27] hearing
[2:18:28] the
[2:18:28] NBI
[2:18:29] report
[2:18:29] and
[2:18:31] then
[2:18:31] looking
[2:18:31] at
[2:18:32] the
[2:18:32] reading
[2:18:34] through
[2:18:34] the
[2:18:34] joint
[2:18:35] affidavit
[2:18:37] and
[2:18:37] then
[2:18:37] the
[2:18:38] copies
[2:18:40] of
[2:18:40] the
[2:18:41] affidavit
[2:18:41] of
[2:18:41] the
[2:18:41] five
[2:18:42] who
[2:18:42] individually
[2:18:43] submitted
[2:18:44] their
[2:18:44] wala na
[2:18:47] ako
[2:18:47] itatanong
[2:18:47] kasi
[2:18:48] apparently
[2:18:49] yung
[2:18:50] joint
[2:18:50] affidavit
[2:18:51] was
[2:18:53] it
[2:18:53] the
[2:18:53] word
[2:18:54] used
[2:18:54] by
[2:18:54] NBI
[2:18:54] based
[2:18:55] on
[2:18:56] the
[2:18:56] NBI
[2:18:56] report
[2:18:56] concapte
[2:18:57] merong
[2:18:58] gumawa
[2:18:59] at
[2:19:01] for
[2:19:01] media
[2:19:02] purposes
[2:19:02] tapos
[2:19:04] nakabanggit
[2:19:06] ako
[2:19:06] nasingit
[2:19:09] ako
[2:19:09] somewhere
[2:19:10] along
[2:19:12] this
[2:19:12] makapal
[2:19:13] na
[2:19:13] bidavit
[2:19:14] na
[2:19:14] to
[2:19:14] and
[2:19:15] then
[2:19:15] nung
[2:19:15] magbigay
[2:19:16] ng
[2:19:16] sinumpaang
[2:19:18] salaysay
[2:19:19] yung mga
[2:19:19] nabanggit
[2:19:20] doon
[2:19:20] lalo
[2:19:20] na yung
[2:19:21] lima
[2:19:21] hindi
[2:19:22] ako
[2:19:22] binanggit
[2:19:23] wala
[2:19:25] akong
[2:19:25] banggit
[2:19:25] doon
[2:19:26] walang
[2:19:26] sinasabi
[2:19:26] sa akin
[2:19:27] doon
[2:19:27] pero
[2:19:28] pagdating
[2:19:29] nung
[2:19:29] nung
[2:19:30] pseudo
[2:19:32] hearing
[2:19:33] ay
[2:19:35] pilit
[2:19:36] itinatanong
[2:19:36] nung dalawang
[2:19:37] senador
[2:19:37] tungkol
[2:19:38] sa akin
[2:19:38] saka
[2:19:38] kaysen
[2:19:39] lakson
[2:19:39] so
[2:19:40] I actually
[2:19:42] sympathize
[2:19:42] with the
[2:19:43] 18
[2:19:43] ex-bodyguards
[2:19:44] because
[2:19:46] parang
[2:19:47] nagagamit
[2:19:48] talaga
[2:19:48] sila
[2:19:49] nakakaawa
[2:19:53] dahil
[2:19:54] later on
[2:19:55] baka
[2:19:55] sila
[2:19:55] sasalo
[2:19:56] ng lahat
[2:19:56] ng
[2:19:56] kabulastu
[2:19:58] ganong
[2:19:58] ginawa
[2:19:58] nung
[2:19:58] nagprepare
[2:19:59] ng
[2:19:59] joint
[2:20:00] apidabit
[2:20:00] nagsingit
[2:20:01] si ganito
[2:20:01] sinama
[2:20:02] si ganito
[2:20:02] pagkatapos
[2:20:04] individually
[2:20:05] pagka
[2:20:05] nakausap
[2:20:06] iba ang
[2:20:07] kwento nila
[2:20:08] nung sarili
[2:20:08] nilang
[2:20:09] kaalaman
[2:20:09] so
[2:20:10] with that
[2:20:12] Mr.
[2:20:12] Chairman
[2:20:13] I have
[2:20:14] no
[2:20:14] questions
[2:20:14] to any
[2:20:16] of them
[2:20:16] obvious
[2:20:17] na
[2:20:17] alam
[2:20:18] na
[2:20:18] ng
[2:20:18] taong
[2:20:18] bayan
[2:20:19] ano
[2:20:19] nangyari
[2:20:19] thank
[2:20:21] thank you
[2:20:22] Senator
[2:20:22] Soda
[2:20:22] Senator
[2:20:23] Arisa
[2:20:23] salamat
[2:20:25] Mr.
[2:20:26] Chair
[2:20:26] with the
[2:20:27] advice
[2:20:27] of
[2:20:28] Vice
[2:20:28] Chair
[2:20:28] Kiko
[2:20:29] in
[2:20:30] relation
[2:20:30] dun
[2:20:30] sa
[2:20:31] lindol
[2:20:32] na
[2:20:32] binagit
[2:20:32] ni
[2:20:33] Senator
[2:20:33] Bam
[2:20:34] tatlong
[2:20:35] maikling
[2:20:35] factual
[2:20:36] questions
[2:20:36] na lamang
[2:20:37] po
[2:20:37] sa
[2:20:39] NBI
[2:20:40] po
[2:20:40] hindi
[2:20:41] po ba
[2:20:42] sa
[2:20:43] investigasyon
[2:20:43] nyo
[2:20:44] parti
[2:20:44] po yung
[2:20:45] pagkondukta
[2:20:45] ng
[2:20:46] lie
[2:20:46] detector
[2:20:46] test
[2:20:47] and
[2:20:48] if
[2:20:48] so
[2:20:48] bakit
[2:20:49] po
[2:20:49] hindi
[2:20:50] nakapag
[2:20:50] lie
[2:20:51] detector
[2:20:51] test
[2:20:51] po yung
[2:20:52] 18
[2:20:52] ex
[2:20:53] bodyguards
[2:20:54] meron
[2:20:55] pong mga
[2:20:56] nung tinanong
[2:20:57] kung willing
[2:20:57] siya lang
[2:20:57] pumasok sa
[2:20:58] lie detector
[2:20:59] test
[2:20:59] meron
[2:21:00] namang
[2:21:00] mga
[2:21:00] sumagot
[2:21:01] na
[2:21:01] directly
[2:21:02] na
[2:21:02] opo
[2:21:03] meron
[2:21:03] namang
[2:21:04] mga
[2:21:04] sumagot
[2:21:04] din
[2:21:04] ang
[2:21:05] sinasabi
[2:21:05] is
[2:21:06] tatanungin
[2:21:07] si
[2:21:07] attorney
[2:21:07] balikod
[2:21:08] kaya
[2:21:09] nangyari
[2:21:09] po
[2:21:09] diyan
[2:21:09] hindi
[2:21:10] muna
[2:21:10] na
[2:21:10] subject
[2:21:11] sa
[2:21:11] lie
[2:21:11] detector
[2:21:11] test
[2:21:12] kasi
[2:21:12] po
[2:21:12] yung
[2:21:13] dumalabas
[2:21:14] on a
[2:21:14] general
[2:21:15] sense
[2:21:15] ay
[2:21:16] tanungin
[2:21:16] po
[2:21:16] yung
[2:21:17] kanilang
[2:21:17] abogado
[2:21:17] pero
[2:21:18] we are
[2:21:19] ready
[2:21:19] to
[2:21:19] conduct
[2:21:20] yung
[2:21:20] lie detector
[2:21:21] test
[2:21:21] if they
[2:21:22] will
[2:21:22] agree
[2:21:23] salamat
[2:21:25] po
[2:21:25] mr.
[2:21:25] chair
[2:21:26] at
[2:21:26] dun
[2:21:26] po
[2:21:26] sa
[2:21:26] investigasyon
[2:21:27] ng
[2:21:27] bureau
[2:21:28] lumabas
[2:21:28] po
[2:21:28] ba
[2:21:29] kung
[2:21:29] paano
[2:21:30] nakilala
[2:21:30] nung
[2:21:30] labing
[2:21:31] walong
[2:21:31] ex
[2:21:31] bodyguards
[2:21:32] si
[2:21:32] attorney
[2:21:33] balikod
[2:21:33] mr.
[2:21:36] chair
[2:21:36] ganito
[2:21:37] po
[2:21:37] in
[2:21:37] approach
[2:21:38] nila
[2:21:40] yung
[2:21:40] isa
[2:21:40] si
[2:21:41] buduan
[2:21:44] nila
[2:21:44] po
[2:21:44] nag
[2:21:45] recruit
[2:21:45] dun
[2:21:45] sa
[2:21:46] labing
[2:21:47] walo
[2:21:47] sa
[2:21:47] labing
[2:21:47] pito
[2:21:48] at
[2:21:48] nagsimula
[2:21:49] sila
[2:21:49] nag
[2:21:49] meeting
[2:21:50] and
[2:21:50] eventually
[2:21:51] hini
[2:21:51] house
[2:21:52] na po
[2:21:52] sila
[2:21:52] sa
[2:21:52] isang
[2:21:53] tirahan
[2:21:53] sa
[2:21:55] lugar
[2:21:55] ni
[2:21:55] attorney
[2:21:56] balikod
[2:21:56] mismo
[2:21:56] mula
[2:21:57] pa
[2:21:57] po
[2:21:58] nung
[2:21:58] november
[2:21:58] so
[2:21:59] ang
[2:21:59] naging
[2:22:00] option
[2:22:01] po
[2:22:01] naging
[2:22:02] option
[2:22:02] yan
[2:22:03] kaya
[2:22:03] po
[2:22:03] na
[2:22:03] ano
[2:22:03] si
[2:22:03] buduan
[2:22:04] e
[2:22:05] yung
[2:22:05] kay
[2:22:05] gutesa
[2:22:05] po
[2:22:06] dun
[2:22:06] po
[2:22:06] nagsimula
[2:22:07] salamat
[2:22:10] mr.
[2:22:10] chair
[2:22:11] at
[2:22:11] huling
[2:22:11] tanong
[2:22:11] na
[2:22:12] lamang
[2:22:12] so
[2:22:13] paano
[2:22:14] po
[2:22:14] nabuo
[2:22:15] yung
[2:22:15] grupong
[2:22:15] ito
[2:22:16] ganun
[2:22:16] po
[2:22:17] na
[2:22:17] lumapit
[2:22:17] si
[2:22:18] attorney
[2:22:18] balikod
[2:22:18] kay
[2:22:19] mr.
[2:22:20] buduan
[2:22:20] at
[2:22:21] si
[2:22:21] mr.
[2:22:21] buduan
[2:22:21] na
[2:22:28] si
[2:22:28] buduan
[2:22:29] yung
[2:22:29] pinakang
[2:22:30] kinuha
[2:22:30] na
[2:22:30] kubausap
[2:22:31] para
[2:22:32] dun
[2:22:32] sa
[2:22:32] labing
[2:22:32] walo
[2:22:32] na
[2:22:32] sumama
[2:22:33] katunayan
[2:22:33] hindi lang
[2:22:34] po
[2:22:34] ang aming
[2:22:34] findings
[2:22:35] hindi
[2:22:36] lang po
[2:22:36] labing
[2:22:37] walo
[2:22:37] yung
[2:22:37] kanilang
[2:22:37] kinakausap
[2:22:38] 26
[2:22:39] po
[2:22:39] dapat
[2:22:40] yan
[2:22:40] at
[2:22:41] 24
[2:22:42] may
[2:22:42] 6
[2:22:42] pa
[2:22:42] po
[2:22:43] kumakita
[2:22:44] nyo
[2:22:44] po
[2:22:44] may
[2:22:44] mga
[2:22:45] lumabas
[2:22:45] dun
[2:22:45] sa
[2:22:45] social
[2:22:46] media
[2:22:46] na
[2:22:46] aming
[2:22:46] nilabas
[2:22:47] may
[2:22:47] kinakausap
[2:22:48] na
[2:22:48] additional
[2:22:49] na
[2:22:49] 6
[2:22:50] para
[2:22:51] magiging
[2:22:51] 24
[2:22:52] tapos
[2:22:59] meron po
[2:23:00] kaming
[2:23:00] recording
[2:23:00] noon
[2:23:01] nakuha
[2:23:01] rin
[2:23:01] po
[2:23:01] namin
[2:23:02] sa aming
[2:23:02] monitoring
[2:23:02] ng aming
[2:23:03] CCD
[2:23:04] yung
[2:23:04] aming
[2:23:05] cybercrime
[2:23:05] division
[2:23:06] nando
[2:23:06] doon
[2:23:06] po
[2:23:06] meron
[2:23:08] din
[2:23:08] po
[2:23:08] mga
[2:23:08] report
[2:23:08] na
[2:23:09] pumasok
[2:23:09] sa
[2:23:09] amin
[2:23:10] na
[2:23:10] malalayong
[2:23:11] lugar
[2:23:11] mga
[2:23:11] taga
[2:23:12] Isabela
[2:23:12] taga
[2:23:12] Tugigaraw
[2:23:13] pinupuntahan
[2:23:14] pa
[2:23:14] ni
[2:23:14] Atty.
[2:23:15] Balikod
[2:23:16] para
[2:23:16] kumbinsihin
[2:23:17] unofficially
[2:23:20] we cannot
[2:23:20] make use
[2:23:21] of the
[2:23:22] recording
[2:23:22] that was
[2:23:23] given
[2:23:23] to us
[2:23:23] dahil
[2:23:24] meron
[2:23:25] konting
[2:23:25] violation
[2:23:26] pero
[2:23:30] kumbinsin
[2:23:31] na
[2:23:31] kumuhan
[2:23:32] ng picture
[2:23:33] na to
[2:23:33] asan na
[2:23:33] yung
[2:23:33] USB
[2:23:34] sinasabi
[2:23:35] ng tao
[2:23:35] ayoko
[2:23:36] na makialam
[2:23:36] nananahimik
[2:23:37] na ko
[2:23:38] yung
[2:23:38] pamilya
[2:23:38] ko
[2:23:38] At
[2:23:39] pag
[2:23:39] mapapansin
[2:23:40] po
[2:23:40] ninyo
[2:23:41] itong
[2:23:41] labing
[2:23:42] walo
[2:23:42] these
[2:23:42] are
[2:23:42] the
[2:23:43] individuals
[2:23:43] na wala
[2:23:44] pong
[2:23:44] trabaho
[2:23:45] kasi
[2:23:46] dun sa
[2:23:46] 100
[2:23:47] pag
[2:23:47] inyo
[2:23:47] pong
[2:23:48] i-check
[2:23:48] i-validate
[2:23:49] some
[2:23:50] of
[2:23:50] them
[2:23:50] probably
[2:23:51] more
[2:23:51] than
[2:23:51] 10
[2:23:52] of
[2:23:52] them
[2:23:52] are
[2:23:53] still
[2:23:53] in
[2:23:53] active
[2:23:53] service
[2:23:54] So
[2:23:56] kaya
[2:23:56] ko
[2:23:56] po
[2:23:57] this
[2:23:57] is
[2:23:57] material
[2:23:57] kaya
[2:23:58] ko
[2:23:58] sinasabi
[2:23:58] ito
[2:23:59] yung
[2:23:59] mga
[2:23:59] nasa
[2:24:00] active
[2:24:00] service
[2:24:00] may
[2:24:01] trabaho
[2:24:01] hindi mo
[2:24:01] na
[2:24:01] pwedeng
[2:24:02] kumbinsihin
[2:24:02] dahil
[2:24:04] meron
[2:24:04] silang
[2:24:04] career
[2:24:04] more than
[2:24:05] the
[2:24:05] salary
[2:24:07] na
[2:24:07] makukuha
[2:24:07] yung
[2:24:07] career
[2:24:08] nila
[2:24:08] tinitingnan
[2:24:09] nila
[2:24:09] pero
[2:24:10] itong
[2:24:10] individual
[2:24:10] na
[2:24:11] labing
[2:24:12] walo
[2:24:12] na to
[2:24:13] pag
[2:24:13] pre-profile
[2:24:13] nga
[2:24:14] po
[2:24:14] natin
[2:24:14] tingnan
[2:24:14] mo
[2:24:15] yung
[2:24:15] pagka
[2:24:15] profile
[2:24:15] natin
[2:24:16] dyan
[2:24:16] halos
[2:24:16] pare-pare
[2:24:17] yung
[2:24:17] kanilang
[2:24:17] mga
[2:24:18] katatayuan
[2:24:18] po
[2:24:19] yun na po
[2:24:22] kasama na po
[2:24:22] yung seri
[2:24:23] bibigay namin
[2:24:23] findings
[2:24:24] na
[2:24:24] tingin ko
[2:24:25] dapat
[2:24:26] pong
[2:24:26] matingnan
[2:24:26] kung
[2:24:27] siguro
[2:24:28] kumamara
[2:24:30] patin
[2:24:31] po
[2:24:31] meron namang
[2:24:33] lista
[2:24:33] dun sa
[2:24:33] mga
[2:24:34] empleyado
[2:24:35] na yun
[2:24:35] na ni
[2:24:36] dating
[2:24:36] congressman
[2:24:37] saldiko
[2:24:38] na nasa
[2:24:38] active
[2:24:38] service
[2:24:39] with their
[2:24:40] career
[2:24:40] baka
[2:24:41] sakali
[2:24:41] po
[2:24:42] sa pamamagitan
[2:24:43] po ninyo
[2:24:43] through an
[2:24:44] executive
[2:24:44] session
[2:24:45] makausap
[2:24:46] po itong
[2:24:46] mga
[2:24:46] tao
[2:24:46] na ito
[2:24:47] para po
[2:24:48] matapos
[2:24:48] at makita
[2:24:49] natin
[2:24:49] po
[2:24:49] ang
[2:24:49] katotohanan
[2:24:50] Actually
[2:24:52] yun lang
[2:24:53] naman po
[2:24:54] yung huli
[2:24:54] kong
[2:24:55] tanong
[2:24:55] Mr.
[2:24:55] Chair
[2:24:56] maraming
[2:24:56] salamat
[2:24:57] po
[2:24:57] Mr.
[2:24:58] Chair
[2:24:58] at
[2:24:58] Director
[2:24:59] and
[2:25:00] kapag
[2:25:00] fully
[2:25:01] constituted
[2:25:01] na po
[2:25:02] yung
[2:25:02] ating
[2:25:02] committee
[2:25:03] at
[2:25:03] magpatuloy
[2:25:03] na yung
[2:25:03] mga
[2:25:04] hearings
[2:25:04] I would
[2:25:05] be very
[2:25:06] interested
[2:25:06] kung
[2:25:07] mabigyan
[2:25:08] daan
[2:25:08] po
[2:25:08] ng
[2:25:08] Chair
[2:25:09] yung
[2:25:09] executive
[2:25:09] session
[2:25:10] na
[2:25:10] minungkahin
[2:25:11] ni
[2:25:11] Director
[2:25:12] Matibag
[2:25:12] para nga
[2:25:13] po
[2:25:13] makausap
[2:25:14] yung
[2:25:14] ibang
[2:25:14] mga
[2:25:14] taong
[2:25:15] iyon
[2:25:15] na
[2:25:16] pwedeng
[2:25:16] magbigay
[2:25:17] ng buong
[2:25:18] katotohanan
[2:25:18] and
[2:25:19] napaka
[2:25:20] interesante
[2:25:20] pong
[2:25:21] makausap
[2:25:21] din
[2:25:21] si
[2:25:22] Mr.
[2:25:22] Buduan
[2:25:23] so
[2:25:24] sana po
[2:25:24] ay
[2:25:25] ma
[2:25:27] find
[2:25:27] within
[2:25:28] themselves
[2:25:28] nung
[2:25:28] labing
[2:25:29] walong
[2:25:29] ex-bodyguards
[2:25:31] na
[2:25:31] tawag
[2:25:34] nito
[2:25:35] bigyan
[2:25:35] ng
[2:25:35] respeto
[2:25:36] ang
[2:25:36] ipadadalang
[2:25:37] invitasyon
[2:25:38] ng
[2:25:38] committee
[2:25:38] sa
[2:25:39] kanila
[2:25:39] sa
[2:25:40] susunod
[2:25:40] po
[2:25:40] na
[2:25:40] pagdinig
[2:25:41] ng
[2:25:41] fully
[2:25:41] constituted
[2:25:42] committee
[2:25:43] salamat
[2:25:43] po
[2:25:43] Mr.
[2:25:43] Chair
[2:25:44] Thank you
[2:25:44] Senator
[2:25:44] reason
[2:25:45] noted
[2:25:45] go ahead
[2:25:46] Senator
[2:25:46] Rafi
[2:25:47] Okay
[2:25:48] kasi
[2:25:49] ganina
[2:25:49] nababanggit
[2:25:50] ni
[2:25:50] attorney
[2:25:50] Matibag
[2:25:51] paulit
[2:25:51] ulit
[2:25:51] si
[2:25:52] Buduyan
[2:25:53] buduan
[2:25:55] saka
[2:25:56] baligod
[2:25:57] so
[2:25:58] sila
[2:25:59] yung
[2:25:59] nagrecruit
[2:26:00] dito
[2:26:01] sa
[2:26:01] labing
[2:26:01] walo
[2:26:02] and
[2:26:02] meron
[2:26:03] pang
[2:26:03] sinasabing
[2:26:04] nga
[2:26:04] nagbayaran
[2:26:04] nagtawaran
[2:26:05] etc
[2:26:06] wala
[2:26:07] bang
[2:26:07] pwedeng
[2:26:08] maikaso
[2:26:08] dito
[2:26:09] sa
[2:26:09] dalawang
[2:26:09] personalidad
[2:26:10] na
[2:26:10] nabanggit
[2:26:11] na
[2:26:11] sila
[2:26:11] yung
[2:26:11] nagrecruit
[2:26:12] sa mga
[2:26:12] tao
[2:26:13] para
[2:26:13] magsinungaling
[2:26:14] at
[2:26:14] babayaran
[2:26:15] itong
[2:26:15] mga
[2:26:15] tao
[2:26:16] ito
[2:26:16] kapag
[2:26:16] itong
[2:26:17] mga
[2:26:17] tao
[2:26:17] itong
[2:26:17] labing
[2:26:18] walong
[2:26:18] kargador
[2:26:19] eventually
[2:26:19] may
[2:26:20] mga
[2:26:20] magkakaso
[2:26:20] sa
[2:26:20] kanila
[2:26:21] kung
[2:26:21] sino
[2:26:21] man
[2:26:21] yun
[2:26:22] hindi
[2:26:22] alam
[2:26:22] dahil
[2:26:22] nga
[2:26:23] sa
[2:26:23] pagsinungaling
[2:26:23] lalo
[2:26:24] noong
[2:26:24] last
[2:26:24] hearing
[2:26:24] yung
[2:26:25] last
[2:26:25] press
[2:26:26] conference
[2:26:26] excuse
[2:26:26] me
[2:26:27] kawawa
[2:26:28] naman
[2:26:29] yung
[2:26:29] labing
[2:26:30] walong
[2:26:30] kargador
[2:26:30] so
[2:26:31] itong
[2:26:31] dalawa
[2:26:32] na
[2:26:32] nagrecruit
[2:26:33] wala
[2:26:33] mga
[2:26:33] kaso
[2:26:34] para
[2:26:34] sa
[2:26:34] kanila
[2:26:35] Mr.
[2:26:36] Chair
[2:26:37] katunayan
[2:26:37] may mga
[2:26:37] kaso
[2:26:38] na
[2:26:38] na
[2:26:38] i-file
[2:26:39] sa
[2:26:39] kanila
[2:26:39] yung
[2:26:40] mga
[2:26:40] binanggit
[2:26:41] po
[2:26:41] na
[2:26:41] pangalan
[2:26:41] may
[2:26:43] mga
[2:26:43] nagkaso
[2:26:43] na
[2:26:44] po
[2:26:44] at
[2:26:44] sa
[2:26:44] amin
[2:26:44] din
[2:26:44] po
[2:26:45] meron
[2:26:45] nakapending
[2:26:46] kaming
[2:26:46] mga
[2:26:46] investigation
[2:26:47] na
[2:26:48] ang
[2:26:48] ikinaso
[2:26:49] naman
[2:26:49] po
[2:26:49] yung
[2:26:50] sa
[2:26:50] cyber
[2:26:50] libel
[2:26:50] naman
[2:26:51] dahil
[2:26:51] inilabas
[2:26:52] nga
[2:26:52] po
[2:26:52] sa
[2:26:53] Socmend
[2:26:53] at
[2:26:54] kasama
[2:26:54] po
[2:26:54] sa
[2:26:54] kinakasuhan
[2:26:55] si
[2:26:55] si
[2:26:56] Attorney
[2:26:56] Malikud
[2:26:57] pero
[2:26:57] ang
[2:26:57] NBI
[2:26:57] po
[2:26:58] itself
[2:26:58] hindi
[2:26:59] pa
[2:26:59] po
[2:26:59] namin
[2:26:59] maitulak
[2:27:00] na
[2:27:00] kami
[2:27:00] ang
[2:27:00] magkaso
[2:27:01] hanggat
[2:27:01] na
[2:27:01] amin
[2:27:02] pong
[2:27:03] mabuo
[2:27:03] finally
[2:27:04] yung
[2:27:04] kabuan
[2:27:05] ng
[2:27:05] historia
[2:27:06] nito
[2:27:06] na
[2:27:06] kwento
[2:27:06] kaya
[2:27:07] nga
[2:27:07] sabi ko
[2:27:07] po
[2:27:07] this
[2:27:08] is
[2:27:08] an
[2:27:08] operation
[2:27:08] shot
[2:27:09] case
[2:27:09] kasi
[2:27:09] po
[2:27:09] may
[2:27:10] mga
[2:27:10] nasasara
[2:27:11] kami
[2:27:11] pero
[2:27:11] meron
[2:27:12] pa
[2:27:12] rin
[2:27:12] po
[2:27:12] mga
[2:27:13] pumapasok
[2:27:13] na
[2:27:13] informasyon
[2:27:14] kagaya
[2:27:14] po
[2:27:14] nung
[2:27:15] galing
[2:27:16] kay
[2:27:16] Mr.
[2:27:16] Ragasa
[2:27:17] na
[2:27:17] binigay
[2:27:18] kaya
[2:27:19] po
[2:27:19] bubuwin
[2:27:20] po
[2:27:20] namin
[2:27:21] yun
[2:27:21] at
[2:27:21] pag
[2:27:21] natapos
[2:27:22] po
[2:27:22] we
[2:27:22] will
[2:27:22] come
[2:27:22] out
[2:27:23] with
[2:27:23] the
[2:27:23] recommendation
[2:27:23] and
[2:27:24] if
[2:27:24] charges
[2:27:24] can be
[2:27:25] filed
[2:27:26] following
[2:27:26] the
[2:27:27] MC20
[2:27:27] na
[2:27:27] po
[2:27:28] ng
[2:27:28] Department
[2:27:29] of
[2:27:29] Justice
[2:27:29] magkakaso
[2:27:30] naman
[2:27:30] po
[2:27:31] tayo
[2:27:31] dyan
[2:27:31] Thank
[2:27:32] you
[2:27:32] Mr.
[2:27:32] Chair
[2:27:32] Thank
[2:27:33] you
[2:27:33] for
[2:27:34] the
[2:27:34] record
[2:27:35] at
[2:27:36] patuloy
[2:27:36] pong
[2:27:37] pagbibigay
[2:27:37] ng
[2:27:38] press
[2:27:38] conference
[2:27:39] medyo
[2:27:40] maging
[2:27:40] kanilang
[2:27:40] mga
[2:27:41] pahayag
[2:27:41] po
[2:27:41] sa media
[2:27:42] nagkabalibaliko
[2:27:45] na
[2:27:45] dahil
[2:27:46] kanina
[2:27:46] sabi nila
[2:27:47] willing
[2:27:47] po silang
[2:27:47] buwaba
[2:27:48] and then
[2:27:49] kumambi
[2:27:49] naman po
[2:27:50] si
[2:27:50] attorney
[2:27:51] baligod
[2:27:51] sabi
[2:27:51] naman po
[2:27:52] ayon
[2:27:53] buwaba
[2:27:53] dahil
[2:27:53] baka
[2:27:54] masight
[2:27:54] daw
[2:27:54] sila
[2:27:54] ng
[2:27:54] contempt
[2:27:55] ng
[2:27:56] committee
[2:27:56] na
[2:27:56] ito
[2:27:57] dahil
[2:27:57] sa
[2:27:57] umano
[2:27:58] yung
[2:27:58] titig
[2:27:59] isipin
[2:28:00] natin
[2:28:00] nagsisinungaling
[2:28:01] sila
[2:28:01] pero
[2:28:02] nevertheless
[2:28:02] po
[2:28:03] ayaw
[2:28:03] po
[2:28:03] nilang
[2:28:04] mag-attend
[2:28:04] sa
[2:28:04] hearing
[2:28:05] sa
[2:28:05] meeting
[2:28:06] po
[2:28:06] na
[2:28:06] ito
[2:28:07] tatlong
[2:28:07] beses
[2:28:08] na
[2:28:11] ngayon
[2:28:12] ayaw
[2:28:13] po nilang
[2:28:13] bumaba
[2:28:14] despite
[2:28:15] the fact
[2:28:15] na
[2:28:15] mainutusan
[2:28:16] na po
[2:28:17] tayo
[2:28:17] sa
[2:28:17] blue
[2:28:17] ribbon
[2:28:18] secretariat
[2:28:19] wala
[2:28:20] po silang
[2:28:20] sagot
[2:28:21] patpatuloy
[2:28:21] po
[2:28:22] kanila
[2:28:22] pag
[2:28:22] bibigay
[2:28:23] ng
[2:28:23] press
[2:28:23] con
[2:28:24] nililinlang
[2:28:25] din po
[2:28:25] nilang
[2:28:26] sambayanan
[2:28:27] oo
[2:28:27] pero
[2:28:28] mamaya
[2:28:28] maya
[2:28:29] sinasabi
[2:28:29] eh
[2:28:30] hindi
[2:28:30] na
[2:28:30] lamang
[2:28:31] po
[2:28:31] so
[2:28:32] sa
[2:28:33] ngayon
[2:28:33] po
[2:28:33] ayaw
[2:28:34] po
[2:28:34] talaga
[2:28:34] nilang
[2:28:34] umaten
[2:28:35] mga
[2:28:36] kasama
[2:28:37] na
[2:28:37] dito
[2:28:38] po
[2:28:38] sa
[2:28:38] ating
[2:28:38] ipinatawag
[2:28:39] po
[2:28:39] na
[2:28:40] meeting
[2:28:40] well
[2:28:41] it
[2:28:41] makes
[2:28:42] us
[2:28:42] question
[2:28:43] their
[2:28:44] credibility
[2:28:45] at
[2:28:45] kanila
[2:28:46] pong
[2:28:46] motivo
[2:28:46] pumunta
[2:28:47] po
[2:28:47] sila
[2:28:47] dito
[2:28:48] pero
[2:28:48] ay
[2:28:48] naman
[2:28:49] po
[2:28:49] nilang
[2:28:49] bumaba
[2:28:50] dito
[2:28:50] sa
[2:28:51] meeting
[2:28:52] po
[2:28:52] na
[2:28:53] ito
[2:28:53] parang
[2:28:54] ito
[2:28:54] po
[2:28:55] isang
[2:28:55] press
[2:28:55] release
[2:28:57] isa
[2:28:58] pong
[2:28:58] optics
[2:28:58] para
[2:28:59] sabihin
[2:29:00] po
[2:29:00] na
[2:29:00] dumalo
[2:29:00] sila
[2:29:01] rito
[2:29:01] pero
[2:29:02] sa
[2:29:02] totoo
[2:29:03] po
[2:29:03] ilang
[2:29:03] beses
[2:29:04] po
[2:29:04] nating
[2:29:04] inibitahan
[2:29:05] ayaw
[2:29:05] po
[2:29:05] nilang
[2:29:06] bumaba
[2:29:07] po
[2:29:08] rito
[2:29:08] sa
[2:29:08] ating
[2:29:08] tanggapan
[2:29:09] and yet
[2:29:10] ang gusto
[2:29:10] lamang
[2:29:10] po
[2:29:11] nila
[2:29:11] magpres
[2:29:11] con
[2:29:12] na
[2:29:12] magpres
[2:29:12] con
[2:29:12] po
[2:29:13] sa
[2:29:13] taas
[2:29:14] to
[2:29:14] our
[2:29:14] resource
[2:29:15] persons
[2:29:15] please
[2:29:16] submit
[2:29:16] the
[2:29:16] relevant
[2:29:17] documents
[2:29:17] and
[2:29:17] status
[2:29:18] updates
[2:29:18] to
[2:29:19] this
[2:29:19] committee
[2:29:20] at
[2:29:21] the
[2:29:21] appropriate
[2:29:21] time
[2:29:22] we
[2:29:22] shall
[2:29:22] determine
[2:29:23] further
[2:29:23] measures
[2:29:24] to
[2:29:24] ensure
[2:29:24] accountability
[2:29:25] we
[2:29:27] sympathize
[2:29:28] with the
[2:29:28] victims
[2:29:29] of the
[2:29:29] earthquake
[2:29:29] in
[2:29:30] Mindanao
[2:29:30] kaya
[2:29:30] po
[2:29:31] dalawang
[2:29:31] bagay
[2:29:32] tatapusin
[2:29:32] na
[2:29:32] muna
[2:29:33] natin
[2:29:33] we
[2:29:33] suspend
[2:29:34] this
[2:29:34] meeting
[2:29:35] bilang
[2:29:36] pagalang
[2:29:37] po
[2:29:37] sa mga
[2:29:38] biktima
[2:29:40] po
[2:29:40] ng
[2:29:40] malting
[2:29:41] lindol
[2:29:42] ngayon
[2:29:43] dyan po
[2:29:43] sa
[2:29:43] Mindanao
[2:29:45] at
[2:29:45] nakausap
[2:29:47] ko po
[2:29:47] ang ating
[2:29:47] acting
[2:29:48] senate
[2:29:49] president
[2:29:49] na
[2:29:50] anytime
[2:29:51] po
[2:29:51] ay
[2:29:52] pupunta
[2:29:53] po
[2:29:53] ang
[2:29:53] mga
[2:29:54] member
[2:29:54] ng
[2:29:54] majority
[2:29:55] block
[2:29:55] para
[2:29:55] marinig
[2:29:56] at
[2:29:57] makita
[2:29:57] po
[2:29:57] ang
[2:29:58] pangangailangan
[2:29:59] ng mga
[2:29:59] biktima
[2:29:59] po
[2:30:00] ng
[2:30:00] lindol
[2:30:02] at the
[2:30:03] same
[2:30:03] time
[2:30:03] since
[2:30:04] ayan
[2:30:04] naman
[2:30:04] pumaba
[2:30:05] ng
[2:30:05] labing
[2:30:06] walong
[2:30:07] bodyguards
[2:30:07] kasama
[2:30:08] si
[2:30:08] attorney
[2:30:08] baligod
[2:30:09] so
[2:30:09] we
[2:30:10] hereby
[2:30:10] yes
[2:30:11] go ahead
[2:30:11] just
[2:30:11] very
[2:30:11] quick
[2:30:12] mr.
[2:30:12] president
[2:30:12] at
[2:30:13] some
[2:30:13] iimbitayin
[2:30:14] po
[2:30:14] natin
[2:30:14] ulit
[2:30:14] itong
[2:30:15] labing
[2:30:15] walon
[2:30:16] na
[2:30:16] ito
[2:30:16] sa
[2:30:17] susunod
[2:30:18] na
[2:30:18] pagpupulong
[2:30:19] at
[2:30:20] sa
[2:30:21] darating
[2:30:22] namang
[2:30:22] araw
[2:30:22] at
[2:30:23] the
[2:30:23] proper
[2:30:24] time
[2:30:24] kung
[2:30:24] if
[2:30:25] they
[2:30:25] continue
[2:30:26] to
[2:30:26] refuse
[2:30:26] we
[2:30:27] can
[2:30:27] at
[2:30:27] the
[2:30:28] right
[2:30:28] time
[2:30:28] compel
[2:30:29] them
[2:30:29] to
[2:30:29] attend
[2:30:29] contempt
[2:30:34] has been
[2:30:34] fully
[2:30:35] constituted
[2:30:35] for
[2:30:35] the
[2:30:36] record
[2:30:36] mr.
[2:30:36] president
[2:30:36] definitely
[2:30:37] vice
[2:30:37] chair
[2:30:38] kasi
[2:30:38] nga
[2:30:38] nag
[2:30:39] pupunta
[2:30:40] sila
[2:30:40] sa ating
[2:30:40] wisina
[2:30:41] para
[2:30:41] nama
[2:30:41] insult
[2:30:42] pupunta
[2:30:43] sa tanggapan
[2:30:43] isa
[2:30:44] sa
[2:30:44] kasama
[2:30:44] natin
[2:30:44] at
[2:30:45] doon
[2:30:45] po
[2:30:45] mag
[2:30:45] press
[2:30:45] conference
[2:30:46] ayaw
[2:30:47] po
[2:30:47] mong
[2:30:47] maten
[2:30:47] na
[2:30:47] meeting
[2:30:48] ayang
[2:30:48] pinapakita
[2:30:49] pong
[2:30:49] optics
[2:30:50] nila
[2:30:50] pumunta
[2:30:51] po
[2:30:51] sila
[2:30:51] dito
[2:30:51] matapang
[2:30:52] silang
[2:30:52] pumunta
[2:30:52] pero
[2:30:53] ayaw
[2:30:53] nilang
[2:30:53] bumaba
[2:30:54] dito
[2:30:54] sa
[2:30:54] meeting
[2:30:55] na
[2:30:55] ito
[2:30:55] before
[2:30:59] we
[2:31:00] suspend
[2:31:00] this
[2:31:01] meeting
[2:31:01] I would
[2:31:01] like
[2:31:02] to
[2:31:02] personally
[2:31:03] thank
[2:31:03] ang
[2:31:03] buong
[2:31:04] majority
[2:31:05] block
[2:31:06] sa
[2:31:06] staff
[2:31:07] po
[2:31:07] ng
[2:31:08] blue
[2:31:08] ribbon
[2:31:08] committee
[2:31:09] sa
[2:31:09] osaa
[2:31:10] sa
[2:31:10] prib
[2:31:11] at
[2:31:11] sa
[2:31:11] lahat
[2:31:11] po
[2:31:11] ng
[2:31:12] senate
[2:31:12] staff
[2:31:12] na
[2:31:13] faithfully
[2:31:14] fulfilling
[2:31:15] their
[2:31:15] duties
[2:31:16] and
[2:31:16] for
[2:31:16] showing
[2:31:17] up
[2:31:17] today
[2:31:17] despite
[2:31:18] the
[2:31:18] fact
[2:31:18] na
[2:31:18] mayroong
[2:31:19] threats
[2:31:19] sa
[2:31:20] kanila
[2:31:20] na
[2:31:20] ididimanda
[2:31:21] sisibakin
[2:31:22] po
[2:31:22] ng
[2:31:22] minority
[2:31:23] block
[2:31:23] eh
[2:31:24] sabi
[2:31:25] ko
[2:31:25] po
[2:31:26] basi
[2:31:26] po
[2:31:26] sa
[2:31:26] ating
[2:31:27] pong
[2:31:27] acting
[2:31:28] senate
[2:31:28] president
[2:31:29] siya
[2:31:29] po
[2:31:29] ang
[2:31:29] bahala
[2:31:30] you
[2:31:30] are
[2:31:30] protected
[2:31:30] dahil
[2:31:31] may
[2:31:31] bago
[2:31:31] na
[2:31:31] po
[2:31:32] tayong
[2:31:32] mayroong
[2:31:33] po
[2:31:33] tayong
[2:31:33] acting
[2:31:34] senate
[2:31:34] president
[2:31:35] so
[2:31:35] with
[2:31:35] this
[2:31:36] this
[2:31:36] meeting
[2:31:37] is
[2:31:37] now
[2:31:37] suspended
[2:31:37] until
[2:31:38] further
[2:31:38] notice