Prosecution counsel Atty. Kapunan holds press briefing after Day 5 of impeachment trial

[00:00:00] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:01:30] Speaker 1: Thank you. I did say that the more than four days of direct examination, cross-examination, plus the probing and clarificatory questions of the senator judges, and I did not need any testimony of both, because the testimony, when you present a witness, you start with offer of testimony. And in our offer of testimony, if the purpose really for the purpose for getting Attorney Solueka as a witness was first for three reasons. First, confirm that she was personally present during the live broadcast of November 23, 2024. Because the defense themselves showed the video of her crying in the detention center, so that became mutant academic. The second purpose was for her to confirm that the vice president uttered their statements in front of herself and in front of media. Again, that became totally unnecessary because of the statements of attorney Vin Luan. Remember, he made a four and a half minute speech the last time. And in that speech, he mentioned, and I counted more than ten times, that the vice president was there, that she made this statement in front of the media, media ask, and all that. So, that second purpose also became mutant academic. And lastly, on the issue of authenticity, hindi na kailangan yun, because the very same video that we used is the video that they used. So, hindi na at issue yung authenticity at saka yung provenance, yung source ng videos that we presented. Si Captain Bela naman was just supposed to attest to the fact that she personally knows the vice president and attorney Lopez, and that they were both in the detention center, and she was the one who served the transfer order. But hindi naman disputed fact that na-serve ang transfer order, because that was what preceded the press conference. [00:04:41] Speaker 2: Categorically lang, attorney, hindi naman natakot ang prosecution kay attorney Zulaika sa kung ano man pwede niyang sabihin sa impeachment court. [00:04:51] Speaker 1: I mean, you know me. I was supposed to handle attorney Zulaika, attorney Zulaika, attorney Zulaika, attorney Lopez na lang. I supposed to handle attorney Lopez and made a judgment upon the control and supervision of the public prosecutors. It really became unnecessary. And those of you who know me, and I see many familiar faces here, know that hindi ako maatras at all. In fact, I killed a mosquito with an atomic bomb. This was not necessary here. [00:05:33] Speaker 2: So, you can confirm, attorney, na hindi natakot ang prosecution kay Zulaika Lopez. [00:05:38] Speaker 1: Ask and answer, dear honor. [00:05:40] Speaker 2: Okay, and lastly, wala naman po naganap na backdoor negotiations, hindi naman umapila ang defense sa inyo internally, privately. Nauwag nyo nang kunin si Zulaika. [00:05:52] Speaker 1: Oh, no, not at all. Not at all. In fact, I don't know attorney Lopez personally. We have cordial relations with the defense councils. And there was never a discussion on whether to present her or not, or any accommodation to be made as regards her presence here in the Senate. So, the direct answer to your question is, no, there was no backdoor channeling and walang atras. If you saw social media, sabi nga nila, may bagyong, ano, bagyong, Sara. Inday. San? Inday. Bagyong Inday. May bagyong Inday na. And alam mo nyo naman, lumipas na yung bagyong Inday na yan. Tapos na. Typhoon Josie na ngayon. So, wala na. Wala nang strength. [00:06:49] Speaker 3: Ano, Josie? All right. Thank you, ma'am. Regarding nung po again, dun sa pag-drop po kay Zulaika, Hindi po ba meron din part on, you know, some lawmakers or lawyers are saying na baka makasira pa, makasama pa sa prosekusyon, ano, na isa lang pa nga po. Ito si Atty. Zulaika, you know, lalot they're saying na mukhang nakuha nyo naman na, kumbaga, itong article on grave threats. [00:07:19] Speaker 1: No, we were not concerned about whether we could face cross-examination questions, both from the defense and the senator judges, because here we stand on the strength of what are the facts, what is the evidence, and as we have often said, that it has nothing to do with a belief that there are biased senator judges who will act as defense counsels, because we believe that the senator judges are faithful to their oath of political neutrality and an impartial justice. So, hindi po kami natakot na baka may possible quest examinations which will antagonize or which will embarrass the prosecutors. [00:08:20] Speaker 3: Ma'am, si Vice President Sarah Duterte po, meron po siyang statement, as sinabi po niya, yung day for the impeachment trial, the country witness, sinasabi po niya what she has been saying all along, the complaint is not supported by evidence, repeatedly claiming that there were threats when none existed, inventing an assassin where there was none, and fabricating evidence to support those claims does not transform fiction into fact. Ano po ang inyong komento tungkol po dito sa pahayag ni Diti Sarah? [00:08:49] Speaker 1: Alam mo, these are all matters of defense, but matagal na ninyo nakita both ang testimony at saka ang documentary evidence ng prosecution. Matagal na yan, since last year and recently sa house committee on justice, all the evidence of the prosecution is transparent. What is not transparent here is the evidence of the defense because ang sabi nila, hindi sila, they would not participate in the house hearings because this is the proper venue. But so far we have not seen, we have not seen any evidence coming from the defense. Ang evidence lang nila ay kung kahapon, madami daw typo, marami daw typographical errors yung investigation report na pre-sent ng dalawang NBI agents, principally si Attorney Lotok. Yun lang ang nasabi nila. So, so far, when we are talking here about serious matters like did she do it? Did she utter it? Did she, what did she really mean? Yun, is this really an impeachable offense? We want to really hear from the vice president or the vice president's team. Right now, what we're hearing lang is, eh madami namang typo errors itong report na to. What kind of a defense is that? [00:10:39] Speaker 3: Kanina rin po, minalit din ni Congressman Terry Ridon itong defense team ni VP Sarah. You're entitled to demand out your opinion. Pero just want to follow up lang po, clarify lang na hindi pa tapos ang grave threats article. Monday po, isasalang sa Atty. Melvin Matibag. Yes. And tama po ma'am, as you know, if you can just, you know, give us some ano lang. Sino pa po ba yung mga isasalang natin sa susunod na ringgo? [00:11:04] Speaker 1: So, no, we have to evaluate, no, after Attorney Matibag, because merong kaming, you know, in all of the articles, merong kaming reservation. Reservation as to additional witnesses and additional documentary evidence. So, you will know by Tuesday, because the prosecution, or both sides, the prosecution is required to give notice to the court, to the presiding officer, and to the impeachment court every Tuesday. A list of witnesses for the coming week, because kung merong kaming request for subpoena, they want that that subpoena would be issued on a Wednesday. So, who the next witnesses are after Attorney Matibag, you will know on Tuesday. [00:12:01] Speaker 4: Ma'am, good evening. Earl Tobias from IBC News. Ma'am, you said, you manifested kanina on the Senate impeachment court na na-establish na na-admit na rin ng defense camp mismo, na meron talagang grave threats na ginawa ang vice-presidente. For the prosecution, may I just get the stand again, that the grave threats is already established, and hence, hindi na kailangan i-present yung testimony ni Ma'am Zelayka Lopez and the others. [00:12:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, because it is their own admission, no, that there was really the statements made. The statement made by the vice president during that press conference that she did hire someone to kill, no? If that is not grave threats, then what is it, no? Ang sinasabi lang nila, sinabi nga niya yun, pero hindi yun ang intention niya. That they're saying that the prosecution has read intention other than what was intended by the vice president. But that is a matter of defense. When a person threatens you, an ordinary citizen threatens you, there are consequences. Narinig niya naman kanina, somebody who threatened the former president was arrested because he did threaten. Whether he had resources to pay $150 million or in another case, $50 million, that was beside the point. The point was the threat was made. And that is exactly here, regardless of the motivation, regardless of the interpretation, the utterance by itself and the statement that a person was hired to kill. There is no such thing as conditional threat, sabi ng dalawang witnesses naman, there is absolute threat. And this afternoon, you saw the statement of the president and how he reacted. He said, this cannot happen in a democracy. This cannot happen under the rule of law. You cannot threaten, not himself, but institutions. When you threaten the government and the presidency, you are threatening the very stability and security of a nation. And that was very clear in the statement of the president. So there are laws that say you cannot do that. In fact, what they have tried to do, and we are very appreciative that binalik sa discussion ang impeachable offense, because pinag-uusapan na na prison correction na. Dapat MTC daw tong kasong to, kasi grave threats and inciting to sedition, MTC lang yan, Metropolitan Trial Court, saka Regional Trial Court. There is a deliberate attempt to misinform the viewing public. This is not a criminal case. Yung criminal case, oo, pending yan sa NBI. One count of sedition and three counts of grave threats. That is the criminal case pending before the DOJ. And that was what the defense focused on, the criminal case. Teka, teka, layo naman ang pending criminal case sa DOJ. Yung one count of sedition na yan, saka yung three counts of grave threats, ang pinag-uusapan natin dito. Ay hindi yung criminal cases na yan. We are talking about fitness. A public official who makes statements like that, who has shown her emotional instability, who has shown how she can, she can and is capable of carrying out her threats. What is that? Is that punishable by six months imprisonment? [00:16:07] Speaker 4: Ma'am, last from my end. So, if the defense would insist that there's no threat present, the burden of proof now shifts on them. [00:16:17] Speaker 1: Well, the defense, the defense should prove their defense. The prosecution, we will prove our case. We will prove, they said, oh, you don't have, you don't have evidence. But that is, those are words. We have already shown how many? Nineteen documents in evidence. Attorney Kalilong, although credentials were asked, his credentials were asked, ano ba yung credentials nitong witness? Tatlong beses, tinanong ano ba yung credentials mo? Finally, it was concluded that he is, although he's not an expert witness, he is a competent witness. An attorney Kalilong, akita nyo naman, was able to show that authentic yung video, and that yung provenance, yung source na video, in fact, walked us through this electronic evidence. May kahabaan lang, because iba ang rules and evidence natin, ano. Iba ang proving electronic evidence. There is a step-by-step process. Through him, his testimony, credible. He even attested to the fact that this is not AI-generated video. Yung second witness, si attorney Lotto, credible rin. And through him, we presented 45 documents, 19 of which have been marked, the rest have been unmarked, because the attachments to the investigation report, you know. So, when they say there is no evidence, wait a minute, these documents are not evidence. These two credible witnesses, competent witnesses, are not evidence. So, and there will be more coming. There will be more coming in this article on grave threats and inciting, which is culpable violation of the Constitution and betrayal of public trust, and the three other grounds for impeachment. Mas marami pa silang makikitang evidence. Sana naman, pag puro typo error mo, ang evidence ng defense. [00:18:41] Speaker 5: Ma'am, just a quick clarification. I'm playing devil's advocate lang. Kasi baka some people might say na you were, the prosecution wasn't serious in their plan to present Atty. Zulaika Lopez. Kung baga parang tinesting the waters lang. Is this the case, or talagang you planned to have Atty. Lopez presented, kaso magiging redundant na? [00:19:06] Speaker 1: Yes. Exactly. We don't bluff. This is not a bluffing game. This is not a poker game. This is not a chess game. This is not a game. This is a serious matter. When we say we will present, we will present. When we say it is not necessary, it's not necessary. Why waste the time of the court? 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