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House prosecutors hold press briefing — June 26

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"the top litigator uh the trial legal spokesperson uh of the house impeachment attorney benjamin j tolosa jr sir uh thank you for joining us this morning and uh before we begin the the media questions uh i let the two of you to deliver your short opening statements let's begin with uh spokesia..."

[0:00] the top litigator uh the trial legal spokesperson uh of the house impeachment attorney benjamin j [0:10] tolosa jr sir uh thank you for joining us this morning and uh before we begin the [0:18] the media questions uh i let the two of you to deliver your short opening statements let's [0:27] begin with uh spokesia followed by uh attorney jay tolosa comes here let's proceed thank you very [0:37] much kaya raya no salamualaikum warahmatullahi talahi wabarakatuh magandang umaga po sa ating [0:43] lahat ah una salat man nagpapasalamat po kami sa ating mga kasamahan sa media na narito at patuloy [0:51] na nagahatid ng tama at up-to-date na informasyon ukol sa impeachment sa publiko kakatapos lang po ang [0:58] ng free trial conference kahapon at nakahanda ang prosecution na mag submit ng kanilang mga [1:04] komento hiningi o hiningi na rin po ng prosecution sa impeachment court na buksan ng dir box na naglalaman [1:12] ng tax documents ng vice president ang laman ng box ay parehong parte ng reserve evidence ng dalawang [1:19] panig hindi natin po it natin hinihingi agad-agad na ma admit ang mga ibensya na ito ang hinihingi po [1:28] ng prosecution ay supervised opening upang makita ang mga dokumento at mamarkahan ang [1:35] mga ito upang maging mas matiwasay at mas madali ang diskusyon sa magiging impeachment trial ang [1:43] impeachment proceeding isa sa mga exception sa confidentiality of tax information sa ilalim [1:48] ng batas this is the proper time this is the proper venue in the interest of justice let us open the [1:55] box at panghuli po nagpapasalamat po kami sa senado sa matagumpay na pre-trial conference na nasaksihan [2:04] ng sambayan ng pilipino ang pagtatapos po ng pre-trial conference ay isang malaking hudya na wala pong maaaring [2:11] mga hadlang sa pag-uumpisa ng actual impeachment trial sa nalalapit na july 6 na naayon sa ating saligang [2:20] batas sa pong araw na lang po ang natitira upang ang senado na uupong hukom ay madinig makita at [2:29] masuri ang ebidensya ng bawat panig na naayon sa prinsipyo ng due process ang taong bayan po ay nakikinig [2:39] nagbabantay at nagmamatsyag deserve nila ang katotohanan at pawang katotohanan lamang at yan po ang [2:49] panata ng prosecution team ang ilatag ang katotohanan at pawang katotohanan lamang sa sambayan ng [2:56] pilipino sa nalalapit na paglilites kayo vice president sarah duterte maraming salamat po magandang umaga [3:04] salamu alaikum warahmatullahi ta'ala yung wabarakatuh [3:06] thank you both folks here let's go to uh attorney tulosa sir uh thank you sir and uh good morning [3:16] everyone and thank you for joining us today so the house prosecution panel is pleased to announce the [3:22] successful completion of the pre-trial proceedings in the impeachment case against vice president [3:27] sarah duterte after five days of pre-trial conferences from june 18 and june 22 to 25 [3:35] we have completed the marking of documentary exhibits identification of our intended witnesses [3:41] submitted our respective proposals for stipulations and made appropriate manifestations and requests [3:48] in preparation for the trial proper in july 6. the good news is that with the completion of the pre-trial [3:54] proceedings the impeachment trial is now septa commenced on july 6. we welcome this important [4:00] milestone because it allows the constitutional process to move forward and gives the filipino [4:06] people the opportunity to hear the evidence examine the facts and know the truth through a fair [4:12] transparent and orderly trial we express our sincere appreciation to the secretariat of the impeachment [4:18] court for its guidance and accommodations that it extended to both parties which enabled us to [4:24] complete this extensive process despite the thousands of documentary exhibits involved [4:30] particularly those relating to the articles of impeachment unexplained wealth and confidential [4:35] funds from the very beginning the house prosecution panel has remained committed to one objective to [4:43] complete the pre-trial proceedings as expeditiously and efficiently as possible while ensuring that the [4:49] process remains fair orderly and faithful to the constitution we believe that this objective has been achieved [4:56] so this morning we are ready to proceed to provide you an update on the completed pre-trial proceedings [5:02] address matters raised during the conference and discuss the next steps as we prepare for the formal [5:08] commencement of the impeachment trial again thank you and good morning to all of you [5:12] thank you [5:17] now let's start the ball rolling by calling mr billy vegas of uh [5:22] uh [5:25] magandang umaga po [5:26] ibabalik ko lang po doon sa pre-trial conference normal po ba yung nangyari na [5:32] na magmamark lang na evidence you know object pa [5:35] sige uh let me respond to that that's uh definitely unusual no so during pre-trial conference one of the [5:45] important things that you do there is the marking of exhibits paliwanag ko simple lang po ito [5:50] kung ito ho ang isa sa mga ebidensya na nasa pre-trial brief nyo ito ay minamarkahan lang [5:56] ito ay naririnig natin pangkaraniwan sa mga trial ho na exhibit a exhibit b no so now [6:03] ang pagmamarkahan ng ebidensya ang bawat partido na gustong magmarkahan ng kanyang [6:09] epidensya sa pre-trial no um ito ho ay decision nila no at hindi hindi ho kailangan ipaliwanag [6:18] kung bakit mo gustong markahan itong dokumento na to no itong object na ito as your evidence no and [6:26] they do not have the right to object to it so um to answer your point your question uh [6:33] very unusual ho yan na even just the marking of the sealed bir box was vehemently objected to [6:39] by the other party um gusto ko lang po dagdagan yung sinabi ni attorney jay talo talosa no um [6:47] actually yung sa bir box po na po yan very important po yan doon sa unexplained wealth no this is [6:57] kung this is the only way we can actually explain kung tama ba po yung nakareflect sa salen [7:02] na declared asset declared liability at saka yung legal in lawful income na tinatanggap na ating [7:09] vice-presidente so inyong pong pagmamarka ah sa pagkakaalam ko po and the attorney jay talosa can [7:17] correct me if i'm wrong it's not the stage of admissibility ng evidence ah para lang po [7:23] mapresenta at masimplify kung ano yung yung ipipresenta ng mga possible namang ebidensya hindi [7:30] ang korte po ang may kapangirin para i admit ito so from the very start na ayaw nila it only speaks to us [7:37] one thing no nam parang takot sila mabuksan itong box na ito baka ito yata yung smoking gun in fact [7:46] hindi lang hata ito smoking gun para mukhang ah mukhang armory na itong ah box na ito no so it only [7:54] speaks about their unwillingness to face the charges head on kung may karapat may tamang proseso naman po [8:02] na nilatag para maipresenta ng prosecution ang kanilang mga ebidensya na ayon naman sa rules ng senate ay [8:10] ay hindi naman ito itong punto ng pag admit ng evidence but merely to mark the potential evidence [8:16] that the prosecution would present and then that stage alone on that stage alone that early stage [8:23] alone a object nila vehemently isa lang ang nasa utak ng ating taong bayan sa isipan ng ating [8:30] saong bayan natakot sila doon sa pagbubukas ng ah ah box na ito ah nagaling sa bir takot sila at wala [8:40] silang maipaliwanag doon sa unexplained wealth na artikulo na kinacharge under the articles of [8:47] impeachment ah akong tsaka ah yung dalawang spokes po tanong ko na rin po ano po ba yung laman ng box [8:58] ito po ito po ito po ay sinumiti no ng bir dun sa house committee on justice pursuad to as a [9:12] subpoena issue to them directing them to submit um itr filings of the respondent um her spouse and [9:21] and their financial interests? [9:52] So, instead of clarifying to the court and to the public minds [10:11] na handa sila sumagot sa lahat ng paratang sa vice-presidente, [10:18] mukhang half-baked ang gusto nilang pag-uusap sa impeachment court. [10:22] Ayaw nila yung puong picture because the ITR box nang galing po sa VAR, [10:28] that will give us the whole financial picture of what we are discussing here [10:35] regarding the SALN and the unexplained wealth. [10:38] E mukhang ang gusto nila half-baked lang, huwag na nating pag-usapan ng buo. [10:42] So, hint of course, the impeachment court ay may kapangyarihan naman po sila sa discretion po nila [10:48] kung ano yung i-admit nila ng mga ebidensya. [10:51] Ito lang po ay marking. [10:53] Kumbaga, pagdating po ng korte, lahat naman po tayo naku nanunood ng mga trial drama. [10:58] Ang markings lang po para mas simplify kung if ever na pag-uusapan na yung artikulo [11:03] and Attorney Jay can confirm this, we can immediately refer to a particular document, [11:10] exhibit ganito. [11:12] Para mas mapadali, expedius yung trial, hindi masyadong conflagrated yung issue, [11:20] specific at particular yung nire-refer natin ng dokumento [11:23] na ayon doon sa particular na artikulo na pinag-usapan ng korte. [11:28] And if I can just quickly add, again, your question is, [11:33] ano bang laman itong document ng box na ito? [11:36] And this is actually precisely one of the reasons why we want it to be open. [11:42] Para once and for all, let's open it together. [11:45] And then we could invent to reach contents. [11:48] Para wala man na natin ano ba exactly ang mga documents na nandyan [11:52] and markahan na, as pointed out by Kung Zia, [11:55] total, both parties mentioned in their respective pre-trial briefs, [12:01] their reservation of evidence, which is this BIR submissions. [12:08] At saka, we are very perplexed, no? [12:12] Kasi the opening of the box will not only be, ano, [12:17] with the Senate or the impeachment court, [12:21] with the prosecution alone. [12:23] Hindi naman po, i-supervise naman po atay ito na opening ng box. [12:27] Ibig sabihin, nandun din ang depensa. [12:30] So, it's very perplexing na if ever that this box will be open, [12:37] it's also before in the presence of the defense. [12:40] So, dun po tayo nagkakaroon din ng panaisipan kung bakit ayaw nila. [12:45] Isamantalang sila mismo ay magsusupervise sila sa marking [12:49] ng mga dokumento na nilalaman itong box na ito. [13:00] To clarify lang po, ngayon pong tapos na yung pre-trial conference [13:04] at hindi po namarkahan yung BIR box, [13:07] pwede pa rin po siyang i-present? Tama po ba? [13:10] Definitely. But, well, first of all, what happened? [13:15] So, we filed a written request asking for the opening of the box. [13:20] And then yesterday, ang naging resolution ng clerk of court [13:24] is to give the defense until the end of day, today, [13:29] to file a written response. [13:30] So, it's still possible that when the impeachment court resolves this matter, [13:36] sasabihin na, let's open it. [13:39] This could be done either before the first hearing on July 6, [13:44] or even while the trial is already ongoing. [13:49] Pwede naman ho yan. [13:50] So, it doesn't mean that it was not open today for close-knit possibility. [13:55] But, in our position, it would have been better [13:58] if it was open during the pre-trial conference. [14:01] Since, precisely, yan ho yung mga isang reason ba't ginagawa ho yan [14:05] para ma-identify na at mamarkahan na mga ebidensya [14:09] ng mga magkabilang panik. [14:11] Tsaka, ano, idadagdag ko lang kay Attorney Jay, no? [14:15] I think nung na-experience naman po natin, [14:18] at saksihan na po natin, [14:19] even during the corona impeachment trial, [14:22] there were evidence that were presented [14:25] while the court was ongoing, the trial was ongoing. [14:28] So, minamarkahan naman po yan, [14:30] even during the trial of then, the late Chief Justice. [14:34] So, that can also be done in this current trial. [14:39] So, hindi naman po yan bagbaguhan. [14:42] While the trial is ongoing, [14:45] meron naman pong way to mark this evidence. [14:52] Sorry, tanong ko na rin po. [14:54] After po ba nila mag-file ng comment, [14:55] ano po bang susunod? [14:57] Okay. [15:00] So, we will wait for the impeachment court [15:02] to act on that matter. [15:04] And, in fact, since the pre-trial conference [15:07] has concluded yesterday, [15:10] so, the impeachment secretary would have, [15:15] or clerk would have 10 days, no, [15:16] to issue a pre-trial order. [15:18] So, we would be waiting for that. [15:21] Thank you po. [15:22] Salamat, Billy. [15:24] Punta natin si Tina Pangalibang Perez [15:26] from GMA 7 for her questions. [15:28] Tina? [15:29] Thank you po. [15:31] Attorney Tolosa, earlier you said that [15:34] it was the decision of the panel [15:37] to have whatever evidence they want marked [15:42] and that at the stage of the pre-trial conference, [15:46] eh, hindi dapat nag-o-object yung kabilang party. [15:50] Sir, ito layman question. [15:53] Kung unusual yung pag-object ng defense panel [15:56] dun sa pag-open ng BIR box, [15:59] why didn't the prosecution panel insist [16:02] on having it marked? [16:04] Since evidentia nyo naman yun [16:05] and you don't need to explain [16:07] why you want it marked. [16:10] Actually, to correct that, [16:12] we definitely insisted [16:15] that we be allowed to a market [16:18] and it was met with repeated [16:20] and vehement objections [16:22] on the part of the defense. [16:23] So, we really tried to have it marked. [16:25] But since the ruling made [16:28] by the impeachment clerk [16:30] was just to give the other party [16:33] an opportunity to respond to this in writing [16:35] and then just wait for the resolution. [16:38] So, that's what happened. [16:43] Opo. [16:43] Nabanggit po ni Chair Luistro [16:47] that kung mag-a-agree naman yung defense, [16:51] hindi na kailangan ng comment-comment [16:53] from both parties. [16:56] Meron po bang like backdoor usap [17:00] between the two panels na [17:02] o since evidentia nyo rin naman ito, [17:05] pamarkahan na natin ngayon? [17:06] No, we didn't see any need for that. [17:11] Kasi precisely, [17:13] both parties identified [17:15] in their pre-trial briefs [17:17] as part of their reserved [17:19] documentary exhibits, [17:21] the BIR submissions. [17:23] So, ang tingin namin, [17:25] this should not be a contentious issue [17:26] since pareho natin gustong [17:28] namiting evidentia to, [17:30] then let's open it, [17:31] let's mark it. [17:32] So, we didn't see any need for that. [17:37] Opo. [17:37] Sir, going to another topic. [17:40] Nag-lista po kasi yung prosecution [17:42] di ba ng several witnesses? [17:46] Excluding the hostile witnesses, [17:48] were all the witnesses on the list [17:51] convinced? [17:55] Or did they already say [17:56] that they will face the trial, [18:02] give testimony during the trial? [18:04] Well, I mean, [18:07] lahat ba sila umoon na [18:08] na mag-witness? [18:11] Except for the... [18:12] Except for the hostile witnesses. [18:14] Hostile witnesses. [18:15] Well, there are some, [18:17] as you would see, [18:18] there are reserved witnesses. [18:20] Because [18:20] this pertains to [18:23] people that [18:24] we will have to request [18:26] the court [18:27] to issue subpoena [18:28] so that we could [18:29] present them [18:32] as witnesses. [18:32] So usually, [18:33] kapag ganyan, [18:34] possible ho yan [18:35] ang subpoena [18:36] is not directed [18:37] to a particular person, [18:39] but for example, [18:40] an officer [18:42] with these duties [18:43] in a particular [18:44] government agency. [18:45] And then, [18:46] that government agency [18:47] would send [18:48] the appropriate representative. [18:50] So, [18:50] but for others, [18:52] of course, [18:52] they're very much [18:53] willing to testify. [18:55] Ma'am Tina, [18:57] I remember po [18:59] the articles of impeachment. [19:01] Nakita naman po natin [19:02] during the confirmation hearing [19:03] that those guests [19:05] or those [19:06] witnesses [19:08] that were present [19:09] or that were actually [19:10] invited [19:11] ay mga galing po [19:13] na [19:14] empleyado, [19:15] officers [19:16] ng ating pamahalaan. [19:18] So, [19:19] they themselves [19:20] know exactly [19:21] their responsibility [19:23] and obligation [19:24] to heed the request [19:25] coming from the court. [19:27] So, [19:28] I'm not preempting [19:29] whatever is the arrangement [19:30] as to the presentation [19:32] of the witnesses, [19:33] but what I can tell you [19:34] is that [19:34] these witnesses [19:36] who we've seen [19:38] during the confirmation hearings [19:40] would be the exact witnesses [19:41] that will be [19:42] presented to [19:44] the court [19:46] na alam naman po nila [19:47] kasi galing po silang [19:49] ang tinetestify lang po nila [19:50] is the veracity [19:51] ng mga documentong [19:53] dinala po nila [19:54] during the confirmation hearings [19:56] and I don't think [19:57] there will be any trouble [19:58] if we are talking [20:00] of the obligation [20:02] of these employees [20:03] not only to this [20:05] to their work [20:06] but their mandate [20:07] but also to heed [20:08] the request of the court. [20:09] I'd like to [20:11] be specific [20:13] about my question [20:14] yung [20:14] si Sheriff Andres po kasi [20:16] nakausap po ba siya [20:17] ng ProSec [20:18] and did he agree [20:19] to give [20:21] his testimony [20:22] before the impeachment court? [20:24] Yeah. [20:25] I hope [20:25] you would understand [20:27] that we can't give [20:28] specifics [20:29] with regard to [20:30] evidentiary matters [20:30] at this point. [20:34] Okay, [20:34] I understand sir. [20:35] Ito isa pa pong specific. [20:38] Yung Mary Grace Piatos, [20:40] how will the prosecution [20:42] present [20:42] someone who has [20:45] no birth, [20:46] death, [20:46] or marriage records? [20:48] Parang someone [20:49] who does not exist? [20:52] I'll take it [20:52] from there muna [20:53] before [20:54] Attorney Jay [20:55] you respond. [20:56] Yes, [20:56] congly. [20:57] Una-una, [20:57] si Mary Grace Piatos [20:58] is very central [20:59] figure [21:00] during our [21:01] good government [21:03] investigation [21:04] and in fact [21:05] her name [21:06] again popped up [21:07] during the confirmation [21:08] hearing of the [21:09] Committee on Justice. [21:10] We wanted [21:11] for the agencies [21:13] involved in [21:14] determining the [21:14] existence of [21:15] a particular person [21:16] with this particular [21:17] name [21:18] na ma-confirm [21:19] sa Committee on Justice [21:20] na meron din talagang [21:21] totoong [21:22] Mary Grace Piatos [21:23] na hindi ito [21:24] fictitious character [21:25] this is based on [21:26] an actual living person. [21:28] Unfortunately, [21:29] the PSA came out [21:30] with the report [21:31] that there's no record [21:32] whatsoever [21:33] na meron [21:35] Mary Grace Piatos [21:36] na pinanganak, [21:37] nagkaroon ng marriage [21:38] contract [21:38] or whatever. [21:39] So in the matter [21:41] of presentation [21:43] of the articles [21:44] of impeachment, [21:45] ang sinasabi po natin [21:46] katotohanan [21:47] at pawang katotohanan [21:49] lamang [21:49] ang ilalatag natin [21:51] sa Senado [21:52] at sa sambayan [21:52] ng Pilipino. [21:54] Our contention [21:55] is that [21:55] and confirmed [21:56] by the PSA [21:57] that Mary Grace Piatos [21:59] does not exist [22:01] and has no record [22:02] and therefore [22:03] the logical conclusion [22:05] that we can derive [22:06] is that [22:06] the acknowledgement [22:08] receipts [22:09] nag-breed siyata. [22:20] Kung ginagkamata [22:21] si Kongsiya. [22:27] Kongsiya. [22:27] Hello. [22:33] Nawala. [22:34] Hello. [22:35] Pakasikong gay. [22:36] Ah, there na. [22:36] Okay, sir. [22:37] Please proceed again. [22:39] Yeah. [22:39] So, again, [22:41] it would be better [22:43] lahat ho tayo [22:44] excited [22:44] makilala [22:45] si Mary Grace Piatos [22:47] dahil parating [22:49] natin itong naririnig [22:50] for the past [22:51] year. [22:54] So, let's see [22:55] kung meron talaga [22:56] silang [22:56] meron talagang tao [22:58] na mag-a-appear [23:00] before the court [23:01] na ako [23:01] si Mary Grace Piatos. [23:03] Excited po tayong lahat [23:04] para ma [23:04] once and for all [23:05] mapatunayan po natin [23:08] na [23:08] ma-establish [23:09] itong identity na ito [23:10] na hindi [23:11] puros haka-haka. [23:12] yun naman po talaga [23:15] yung allegation natin [23:17] na yung confidential funds [23:18] ay natanggap [23:20] ng mga haka-haka [23:21] gawa-gawa-gawang pangalan. [23:23] Sir? [23:24] Yes. [23:25] So, to go... [23:26] Yes. [23:26] Yes, Mam Tina. [23:27] Sorry, sir. [23:28] Ipapaulit ko lang po [23:29] kasi sana dun sa part [23:30] na naputol kayo [23:31] yung sinabi nyo na [23:32] the fact that [23:35] the PSA reported [23:36] that Mary Grace Piatos [23:37] doesn't exist [23:39] so ang logical conclusion [23:40] ay... [23:41] The logical conclusion [23:42] is that [23:43] those who receive [23:44] the confidential funds [23:46] indicated [23:47] under the confidential funds [23:49] might probably [23:50] be a made-up character. [23:52] Now, [23:52] it's not... [23:53] That's the allegation [23:55] and the only way [23:56] to establish that [23:57] is to a proper forum [23:59] which is being agreed [24:01] by both sides [24:02] and the proper forum [24:02] is the court. [24:03] Let the court [24:04] find out [24:05] who really is [24:07] who really is [24:08] Mary Grace Piatos. [24:14] Thank you, Kong. [24:15] Attorney? [24:17] Yeah, [24:17] I completely agree [24:18] with that. [24:19] As you've mentioned, [24:19] that's a good point. [24:20] If she does not exist, [24:22] why name her [24:22] as a witness? [24:24] But that's exactly [24:25] the point. [24:27] This is the opportunity [24:28] for her [24:30] if she actually exists [24:31] to come forward [24:32] and say, [24:33] here I am [24:33] presenting myself [24:35] before the impeachment court [24:36] ready to testify. [24:37] So if she does not appear, [24:38] this just supports [24:39] our possession [24:40] that she's a [24:41] made-up person. [24:45] Excited na lahat [24:45] kasi ma'am Tina [24:46] na malaman [24:48] kung sino talaga [24:49] si Mary Grace Piatos. [24:53] Opo. [24:53] Thank you po. [24:59] Thank you, Tina. [25:00] Next is [25:01] Annalise Verano [25:02] from Bombo Radio. [25:06] Hello po. [25:06] Good morning. [25:07] Hello po. [25:08] Good morning. [25:10] Kung [25:10] ngayon tapos na po [25:16] ang free trial brief [25:17] at tuloy na po [25:18] yung impeachment trial [25:20] sa July 6. [25:21] What is the expected [25:22] schedule [25:23] for the presentation [25:24] of evidence [25:25] and witness testimony? [25:27] And when [25:27] can the public [25:29] expect [25:29] the first [25:30] presentation [25:31] of evidence? [25:33] So the first [25:35] day of hearing [25:36] for the presentation [25:38] of our first witness [25:39] has been scheduled [25:40] on July 6. [25:41] Tapos ang schedule [25:43] naman ho [25:43] ng presentation [25:44] of evidence [25:46] would be Monday [25:47] to Wednesday [25:49] every week ho yan [25:50] hanggang bago ho [25:51] ang SONA [25:52] and then after SONA [25:54] ang schedule [25:55] naman ho [25:55] would be Tuesday [25:56] to Thursday. [25:57] Now kung gano [25:59] ho ito katagal [26:00] ang paglilitis [26:02] during the free trial [26:05] the prosecution [26:06] asked for 62 days [26:08] to present our evidence [26:10] and then [26:11] sa kabilang panig [26:13] naman ho [26:13] sa depensa [26:14] humingi sila [26:14] at least 30 days [26:15] so kung babasahin [26:16] natin dito [26:17] at least 3 months [26:20] ho yan [26:20] or could be more [26:21] but of course [26:22] it will still depend [26:24] on several circumstances [26:26] for example [26:27] kung possible ho [26:28] na we could present [26:29] more than one witness [26:31] per day [26:31] so pwede hong [26:32] mapabilis [26:34] okay [26:35] si kong [26:36] diya po [26:37] kung meron ka [26:38] or [26:38] I'll push to [26:41] my next question [26:42] sir [26:43] without revealing [26:44] your legal strategy [26:46] what should the public [26:47] watch [26:48] for in the next phase [26:50] in the impeachment trial [26:51] well [26:52] I would like to [26:54] think that this is very [26:56] you know [26:56] the interest [26:58] of the public [26:59] is exactly [27:00] what is [27:01] what is under [27:03] trial here [27:04] because we're talking [27:05] about [27:06] the [27:07] principle [27:09] that no one [27:10] should be above [27:10] the law [27:10] that's in relation [27:11] to the threat [27:12] that no one [27:14] is allowed [27:14] to take justice [27:15] into their own hands [27:17] that's [27:17] number two [27:18] is public office [27:19] this is a public trust [27:20] so [27:21] ang tiwala [27:22] ng taong bayan [27:23] dapat suklian [27:24] ng tapat [27:25] na pagsisirbisyo [27:26] ibabanga po natin yan [27:28] doon sa [27:29] unexplained wealth [27:30] kung saan [27:31] napupunta [27:32] yung mga hindi [27:33] na papaliwanag [27:35] na yaman [27:36] yung [27:37] the way [27:39] by which [27:40] a public officer [27:41] especially if it's [27:43] an elected [27:43] the trust [27:44] that has given [27:45] to her [27:46] or to him [27:46] and so far [27:48] as improving [27:49] the programs [27:50] under her [27:51] department [27:52] kung tama ba [27:53] na ayun din [27:54] sa mga [27:55] memorandum [27:56] circular [27:57] ng mga [27:58] agensya [27:58] na binigyang [27:59] kapangyarihan [28:01] ng saligang batas [28:02] para [28:02] himain [28:04] ang panggastos [28:05] ng taong bayan [28:06] dahil pera yan [28:07] ng taong bayan [28:08] ibabanga po natin [28:09] sa confidential funds [28:10] yan [28:10] kasi very clear po [28:12] ang sinabi [28:12] ng ano [28:13] very clear po [28:14] ang sinabi [28:14] ng COA [28:15] kailangan [28:16] ibalik na yan [28:17] dahil hindi tama [28:18] at malik [28:19] ang paggasta [28:20] ng perang taong bayan [28:21] sa confidential funds [28:22] so ultimately [28:23] all in all [28:24] this is in [28:25] for the interest [28:26] of the public [28:27] dahil pera nila [28:28] ang pinag-usapan nila [28:30] at dapat lang [28:31] na malaman nila [28:32] kung saan [28:33] napunta [28:33] ang kanilang pera [28:35] Okay, attorney [28:36] what legal issues [28:38] do you expect [28:40] to be the most [28:40] contested [28:41] during the [28:42] impeachment trial? [28:44] Well, there'll be a lot [28:45] I think they've already [28:47] mentioned this [28:48] that their position [28:49] is that [28:50] fee office conduct [28:51] meaning [28:52] acts and omissions [28:53] committed [28:54] before the respondent [28:56] became a vice president [28:57] should not be admitted [28:59] in evidence [28:59] and we have [29:01] our position [29:02] on this [29:02] of course [29:04] we do not agree [29:05] to that [29:07] position [29:07] since [29:09] for us [29:10] fee office conduct [29:12] by themselves [29:13] actually construes [29:14] impeachable offences [29:16] and I hope [29:17] you could [29:17] understand [29:18] why I can't [29:19] go to the merits [29:20] of that [29:20] but second [29:21] even if we [29:23] will consider [29:24] for a second [29:25] that [29:26] they're not [29:27] impeachable offences [29:28] but they remain [29:29] to be relevant [29:30] dahil [29:31] itong mga [29:32] prior acts [29:34] or omissions [29:34] na to [29:35] they could [29:35] establish [29:36] pattern [29:37] they could [29:38] provide the baseline [29:39] with respect [29:40] to the wealth [29:40] that was accumulated [29:41] which continued [29:43] until [29:44] dun sa 2022 [29:45] Thank you attorney [29:47] Thank you po [29:48] Boss Rye [29:49] Welcome [29:50] Salamat [29:52] Annali [29:53] Next is [29:54] Fred Mendoza [29:54] from Manila Times [29:55] Hi po [29:58] Good morning po [30:00] First off [30:05] yun nga po [30:06] yung kay Mary Grace [30:07] Piatos nga po [30:08] again [30:08] ito sinasabi po [30:11] ng iba [30:11] confidential nga po [30:13] I mean [30:13] may bin alias nga po [30:15] siya [30:15] baka isa po [30:16] siyang informant [30:17] hindi po [30:18] maka danger po [30:19] sa [30:19] kawang pangalan [30:21] ay Mary Grace [30:22] Piatos [30:22] sa lumabas po [30:23] siya [30:23] kasi [30:23] yun nga po [30:24] I mean [30:25] baka nga po [30:26] lumabas siya [30:27] bagla nga po [30:27] siyang patay [30:28] ng mga [30:28] nagturo sa kanya [30:31] hindi po ba [30:32] nakadangerous po [30:33] yun na [30:33] inalabas po [30:34] si Mary Grace [30:35] Piatos [30:36] out in the open [30:37] and baka siya [30:38] naman po [30:38] yung maging [30:39] target ng mga [30:41] nagpuro [30:42] pinuro niya [30:43] In the interest [30:45] of transparency [30:46] and accountability [30:46] it will not be [30:48] a danger to [30:48] this government [30:49] to strengthen [30:51] that [30:52] ang ginagawa po [30:55] natin [30:56] is to strengthen [30:57] yung transparency [30:58] and accountability [30:58] of public officials [30:59] and that will not [31:01] endanger anybody [31:02] number two [31:03] if you're talking [31:04] about personal [31:05] security [31:07] of the [31:08] perceived to be [31:09] recipients [31:10] of the confidential [31:11] funds [31:12] let's go back [31:13] to the good [31:13] government hearing [31:14] it was the AFP [31:16] who said [31:17] and denied [31:18] that there was [31:19] indeed [31:19] distribution [31:20] of confidential [31:21] funds [31:21] that the AFP [31:23] actually [31:25] were involved [31:27] in [31:27] sinabi ho nila [31:28] and they deny [31:29] that there's no [31:30] such program [31:31] that we have [31:32] actually [31:32] implemented [31:34] in partnership [31:35] of the [31:36] office of [31:37] the vice [31:37] president [31:37] insofar [31:39] as this [31:40] particular [31:40] confidential [31:41] funds [31:42] were used [31:42] so [31:43] thirdly [31:44] yes [31:45] assuming [31:46] for example [31:47] and I'm not [31:48] confirming [31:49] the fact [31:50] that this [31:51] is true [31:51] but assuming [31:52] without conceding [31:54] that these [31:55] are all [31:55] code names [31:56] hindi mo po [31:57] pwedeng [31:58] i-code name [31:58] lang [31:58] kay COA [31:59] kasi [32:00] doon po [32:00] sa joint [32:01] circular [32:01] even if [32:02] code name [32:02] yan [32:03] for the [32:03] purpose [32:03] of security [32:04] of either [32:05] purchase [32:06] of information [32:07] or [32:08] reward [32:09] kailangan [32:10] at makinaka [32:11] attach [32:11] na envelope [32:12] diyan [32:13] na si [32:13] Batman [32:14] ang tunay [32:15] niyang [32:15] pangalan [32:16] ay ito [32:17] for the [32:18] purpose [32:18] of [32:19] auditing [32:20] auditing [32:22] the funds [32:23] that have [32:23] been used [32:24] for the [32:24] purchase [32:25] of [32:25] information [32:26] or [32:26] reward [32:27] to [32:27] an [32:27] informant [32:28] so [32:28] kaya nga [32:29] sinabi [32:29] po [32:29] ni COA [32:30] na [32:30] teka [32:31] lang [32:31] hindi [32:31] lang [32:31] puros [32:32] acknowledgement [32:32] receipt [32:33] kayo [32:33] in fact [32:34] very [32:34] clear [32:35] po [32:35] sa [32:35] joint [32:36] circular [32:36] na [32:37] bago [32:38] yung [32:38] acknowledgement [32:38] receipt [32:39] halimbawa [32:40] lang [32:40] ay dapat [32:41] may nakalakit [32:42] dyan [32:42] na [32:43] attachment [32:43] na [32:43] nakasobre [32:44] na [32:45] yung [32:46] custody [32:46] ng [32:47] sobre [32:47] na yan [32:47] dapat [32:48] classified [32:49] at [32:49] derecho [32:49] binibigay [32:50] yan [32:50] sa [32:50] IGVAL [32:51] so [32:52] in the [32:52] interest [32:53] of [32:53] public [32:54] in the [32:56] interest [32:56] of [32:57] yung [32:58] publiko [32:59] I [33:01] don't [33:01] see [33:02] any [33:02] reason [33:02] why [33:03] this [33:04] will [33:05] threaten [33:05] the [33:07] democratic [33:08] processes [33:08] na [33:09] in-establish [33:11] po [33:11] ng [33:11] ating [33:12] proseso [33:13] kasi [33:14] ang [33:14] sinasabi [33:15] po [33:15] natin [33:15] dito [33:16] ay [33:16] ang [33:16] pagpapalakas [33:18] sa [33:19] gobyerno [33:21] ay [33:21] isa [33:22] po [33:22] sa [33:22] mga [33:22] prinsipyo [33:24] ng [33:25] transparency [33:25] and [33:26] accountability [33:26] ng [33:27] isang [33:27] opisyal [33:28] atorini [33:30] may [33:31] dadadago [33:31] kayo [33:32] no [33:33] i [33:33] think [33:33] that [33:34] was [33:34] properly [33:35] addressed [33:35] already [33:35] by [33:35] kong [33:36] z [33:36] yeah [33:36] yeah [33:37] ano [33:37] lang [33:38] if [33:38] ever [33:38] man [33:39] kunyari [33:39] umabit [33:39] po [33:39] sa [33:40] inyo [33:40] yung [33:40] nagkailala [33:41] mary [33:41] grace [33:41] platos [33:42] and [33:42] sinabi [33:42] niya [33:43] katatakot [33:43] po [33:44] po [33:44] i'm [33:44] threatened [33:44] po [33:45] for [33:45] my [33:45] life [33:45] would [33:46] you [33:46] give [33:46] that [33:47] version [33:47] security [33:48] pong [33:49] adyong [33:50] red [33:51] wouldn't [33:52] you [33:52] aren't [33:53] you [33:53] ano [33:54] red [33:54] as [33:55] a [33:55] taxpayer [33:56] i'll [33:57] ask [33:57] you [33:57] this [33:58] not [33:58] just [33:58] na [33:59] journalist [33:59] as [33:59] a [34:00] taxpayer [34:00] aren't [34:02] you [34:02] also [34:02] intrigued [34:03] kung [34:04] sino [34:04] si [34:04] mary [34:04] grace [34:05] piatos [34:05] ayaw mo ba [34:06] siyang [34:06] malaman [34:07] ayaw mo [34:11] siyang [34:11] makilala [34:12] gusto [34:13] natin [34:14] kasi [34:14] ma [34:15] maestablish [34:17] yung [34:17] kanyang [34:17] identity [34:18] na ito [34:19] lang [34:19] sa [34:19] paraan [34:20] na [34:20] naayong [34:21] sa saligang [34:21] batas [34:22] at [34:22] sa due [34:23] process [34:23] so [34:25] kung [34:26] well [34:27] sa amin [34:27] lang [34:28] kung [34:28] palagay [34:28] kung [34:29] kami [34:30] pong [34:30] tatanungin [34:31] nyo [34:31] wala [34:32] talagang [34:32] mary [34:32] grace [34:33] piatos [34:33] yun [34:35] naman [34:35] po [34:35] yung [34:35] allegation [34:36] natin [34:36] wala [34:36] mary [34:37] grace [34:37] piatos [34:38] now [34:38] if [34:39] they [34:39] can [34:39] provide [34:39] I [34:40] think [34:40] the [34:40] defense [34:40] is [34:41] in [34:41] best [34:41] position [34:41] to [34:42] provide [34:42] that [34:42] person [34:43] with [34:44] that [34:44] kind [34:44] of [34:44] name [34:45] no [34:45] para [34:46] once [34:47] and [34:47] for [34:47] all [34:48] itong [34:48] allegation [34:49] na [34:49] confident [34:50] itong [34:50] pangalan [34:52] na [34:52] mary [34:52] grace [34:52] piatos [34:53] ay [34:54] sa aming [34:54] palagay [34:55] sa [34:55] prosecution [34:56] panel [34:56] ay gawa [34:57] gawa [34:58] lamang [34:58] haka [34:58] haka [35:02] do [35:03] exist [35:03] despite [35:04] the [35:04] fact [35:04] that [35:05] the [35:05] PSA [35:05] also [35:06] came [35:06] out [35:06] with [35:07] a [35:07] report [35:07] that [35:07] there's [35:08] no [35:08] such [35:08] person [35:08] with [35:09] that [35:09] name [35:09] existing [35:10] is [35:11] the [35:11] court [35:11] I [35:12] think [35:13] all [35:13] of [35:13] us [35:13] even [35:15] you [35:15] red [35:15] I [35:15] don't [35:16] know [35:16] how [35:16] you [35:16] would [35:17] approach [35:17] this [35:17] but [35:18] even [35:18] you [35:18] you [35:18] deserve [35:19] to [35:19] know [35:19] who [35:20] is [35:20] mary [35:20] grace [35:21] piatos [35:21] because [35:21] you've [35:22] been [35:22] paying [35:22] your [35:22] taxes [35:23] and [35:23] the [35:24] confidential [35:24] funds [35:25] is [35:25] actually [35:26] the [35:26] tax [35:27] na [35:27] binabayaran [35:28] ng [35:35] witness [35:37] I [35:38] mean [35:38] of [35:39] course [35:39] the [35:40] incident [35:40] happened [35:41] in [35:41] 2011 [35:42] hindi [35:44] po [35:44] ba [35:44] parang [35:45] medyo [35:45] far [35:49] reaching [35:50] na [35:50] po [35:50] na [35:50] why [35:51] would [35:52] the [35:53] prosecution [35:53] invite [35:54] the [35:55] sheriff [35:55] na [35:56] sinapak [35:56] ni [35:57] Vice [35:58] President [35:58] Sa [35:59] Duterte [35:59] ano [35:59] po [36:00] ba [36:00] maging [36:02] inter [36:02] may [36:03] iambag [36:04] niya [36:05] sa [36:05] case [36:08] ng [36:08] Vice [36:09] President [36:09] I [36:09] mean [36:09] do [36:10] you [36:10] intend [36:10] to [36:11] present [36:11] the [36:12] witness [36:12] as [36:13] a [36:13] character [36:13] witness [36:14] without [36:17] going [36:17] too [36:17] much [36:18] into [36:18] the [36:18] strategy [36:19] into [36:19] the [36:20] merits [36:20] into [36:20] the [36:21] weight [36:22] of [36:22] the [36:22] evidence [36:22] but [36:23] let me [36:23] clarify [36:24] that [36:24] under [36:25] the [36:25] rules [36:25] it [36:26] is [36:26] allowed [36:26] to [36:27] present [36:27] evidence [36:28] to [36:28] establish [36:29] behavioral [36:29] pattern [36:30] to [36:30] establish [36:31] propensity [36:32] of a [36:33] person [36:33] to [36:34] resort [36:35] to [36:35] violence [36:36] for [36:36] example [36:36] so [36:37] these [36:37] are [36:37] all [36:37] allowed [36:38] under [36:38] the [36:38] rules [36:39] but [36:39] I'm [36:39] sure [36:39] you [36:39] would [36:40] understand [36:40] why [36:41] at [36:41] this [36:41] point [36:41] we [36:41] can't [36:42] disclose [36:42] the [36:43] particular [36:43] reasons [36:44] why [36:44] we [36:44] will [36:45] be [36:45] presenting [36:45] this [36:46] witness [36:46] actions [36:49] and [36:51] words [36:52] are very [36:57] apparent [36:57] and so [36:58] far [36:58] as [36:58] the [36:58] Vice [36:58] President [36:59] is [36:59] concerned [37:00] when [37:00] she's [37:01] angry [37:01] she [37:02] gets [37:03] too [37:03] volatile [37:03] not [37:05] not [37:05] only [37:06] the [37:07] way [37:09] by which [37:10] she [37:10] threatened [37:10] the [37:11] sitting [37:11] president [37:11] and [37:13] the [37:13] first [37:14] lady [37:14] and the [37:14] former [37:15] speaker [37:15] but [37:16] the [37:17] way [37:17] that [37:17] she [37:18] acted [37:18] on [37:19] certain [37:20] issues [37:20] that [37:20] she [37:21] thinks [37:22] undermines [37:22] her [37:22] authority [37:23] it [37:26] also [37:31] speaks [37:32] about [37:32] the [37:34] attitude [37:34] that [37:35] she [37:36] is [37:36] impunity [37:38] the [37:38] culture [37:38] of [37:38] impunity [37:39] that [37:39] we [37:39] would [37:40] try [37:40] to [37:40] address [37:42] and [37:42] nidapat [37:42] maging [37:43] mangyarin [37:44] ang [37:44] bawat [37:44] halal [37:46] na [37:47] opisyal [37:48] dahil [37:49] may [37:50] certain [37:50] privilege [37:52] or may [37:52] certain [37:52] authority [37:53] binigay [37:54] sa'yo [37:54] ay [37:54] pupwede [37:55] mo [37:55] ng [37:55] maksyon [37:56] sa bagay [37:56] na [37:57] hindi [37:57] naayon [37:58] sa [37:58] iyong [37:59] tanggapan [38:01] so [38:01] we [38:02] actually [38:04] see [38:04] the [38:06] attitude [38:06] that [38:07] yung [38:09] impunity [38:10] I am [38:12] beyond [38:12] reproach [38:13] I am [38:13] beyond [38:13] the [38:14] law [38:15] ibabanga [38:16] po natin [38:17] sa prinsipyo [38:18] na no one [38:18] should be [38:19] above [38:19] the [38:19] law [38:19] no one [38:20] should [38:20] have [38:20] the [38:20] right [38:21] to [38:21] take [38:21] justice [38:22] into [38:22] their [38:23] own [38:23] hands [38:25] nakikita [38:26] naman po [38:26] natin [38:26] but the [38:27] way [38:27] she [38:27] skips [38:29] invitation [38:30] harapin [38:31] yung [38:31] mga [38:32] pandinig [38:33] sa [38:34] kongreso [38:35] at [38:36] may pattern [38:36] talaga [38:37] yung [38:37] action [38:38] niya [38:38] na [38:38] parang [38:38] attitude [38:39] is [38:39] impunity [38:42] and [38:42] she [38:43] should [38:43] not [38:43] be [38:43] subject [38:44] to [38:45] legal [38:46] policies [38:48] or [38:49] regulation [38:50] na [38:50] na [38:50] na [38:51] na [38:51] na [38:51] na [38:51] opisy [38:52] ng [38:52] kanyang [38:52] nire [38:53] represent [38:53] okay [38:54] thank you [39:01] pa [39:01] mga [39:01] kong [39:01] CIA [39:02] thank you [39:03] thank you [39:03] thank you [39:03] itong [39:04] papalikan ko [39:04] lang yung [39:05] ethical [39:05] standard [39:06] may batas [39:07] na pa [39:08] po tayo [39:08] dyan [39:08] and [39:08] attorney [39:09] jeta [39:09] to [39:10] losa [39:10] can [39:10] actually [39:11] expand on [39:12] this [39:12] meron [39:12] talaga [39:13] tayong [39:13] expected [39:14] ethical [39:14] standards [39:15] sa lahat [39:15] ng [39:16] government [39:16] employees [39:17] at the [39:18] very [39:18] least [39:18] kung may [39:18] violation [39:19] doon [39:19] that's [39:21] already [39:21] a betrayal [39:22] of [39:22] public [39:23] trust [39:23] dahil [39:23] hinalal [39:24] ka dyan [39:24] ng [39:25] tiwalan [39:25] ng [39:26] taong [39:26] bayan [39:26] na hindi [39:27] mo lang [39:27] pagsisirbisyuan [39:29] ang taong [39:29] bayang [39:29] tapat [39:30] pero [39:31] you also [39:31] resemble [39:32] the [39:32] office [39:32] the [39:33] standard [39:33] which [39:34] by [39:34] which [39:34] you [39:34] are [39:34] expected [39:35] to [39:35] do [39:35] so [39:35] thank [39:39] you [39:40] Bernard [39:41] Taguino [39:41] from [39:42] Abante [39:42] Bernard [39:46] yes sir [39:47] excited [39:48] ako makilala [39:49] si [39:49] Mary Grace [39:50] Piatas [39:51] anyway [39:53] tanong ko [39:56] sa inyong [39:56] dalawa [39:57] paano pag [39:58] hindi [39:58] dumating [39:59] yung [39:59] mga [39:59] hostile [40:00] witness [40:00] tulad [40:01] nila [40:01] Zolaika [40:02] Lopez [40:04] mga [40:04] colonels [40:05] anong [40:07] parusa [40:07] sa kanila [40:08] well [40:09] that's [40:10] up to [40:11] the [40:11] impeachment [40:11] court [40:12] of course [40:12] the [40:13] impeachment [40:13] court [40:13] has [40:14] the [40:14] power [40:14] to [40:14] enforce [40:15] its [40:16] compulsory [40:17] processes [40:17] such [40:18] as [40:19] subpoenas [40:20] so [40:21] it's up [40:21] for the [40:21] impeachment [40:22] court [40:22] if it [40:23] will [40:23] compel [40:23] its [40:23] attendance [40:24] but [40:24] in [40:26] that [40:26] case [40:26] even [40:26] if [40:27] they [40:27] will [40:27] not [40:27] be [40:27] presented [40:28] will [40:28] still [40:29] have [40:29] other [40:30] evidence [40:30] to [40:31] prove [40:31] the [40:32] articles [40:32] of [40:32] impeachment [40:33] kong [40:39] siya [40:39] balik po [40:45] yung tanong [40:45] pasensya [40:46] na [40:46] parang [40:47] naglag [40:48] eh [40:48] paano [40:49] pag [40:49] yung tanong [40:51] ko rin [40:52] kanina [40:52] eh [40:52] paano [40:52] pag [40:53] hindi [40:53] dumating [40:53] anong [40:54] anong [40:55] gagawin [40:56] ng [40:56] prosecution [40:57] baka [40:57] maging [40:58] way [40:58] yun [40:59] ng [40:59] paghina [41:00] ng [41:00] kaso [41:00] niya [41:01] well [41:04] unang [41:04] unang [41:04] una [41:04] we [41:05] don't [41:06] sabi [41:07] ni [41:07] attorney [41:08] jay [41:08] this [41:09] is [41:09] something [41:09] that [41:09] is [41:09] already [41:10] in [41:11] you [41:12] know [41:13] contingency [41:14] in [41:14] what [41:14] might [41:15] happen [41:15] these [41:16] are [41:16] part [41:17] of [41:17] the [41:17] discussion [41:18] in [41:19] the [41:19] railroad [41:19] possibility [41:20] which [41:20] I [41:20] believe [41:21] the [41:21] house [41:21] prosecution [41:22] team [41:22] would [41:23] be [41:24] conscious [41:24] about [41:24] and [41:25] the [41:26] house [41:28] prosecution [41:28] team [41:29] will [41:29] respond [41:30] to [41:30] actual [41:31] occurrences [41:31] during [41:32] the [41:32] trial [41:32] so [41:33] let's [41:33] see [41:33] kung [41:33] ano [41:33] pong [41:33] mangyari [41:34] sa [41:34] actual [41:35] na [41:35] trial [41:35] na [41:35] yan [41:35] but [41:36] definitely [41:36] the [41:37] house [41:37] prosecution [41:37] team [41:38] sinasabi [41:38] po [41:39] natin [41:39] ready [41:39] naman [41:39] po [41:40] tayo [41:40] sa [41:40] ating [41:40] mga [41:40] ebidensya [41:41] pagpapresenta [41:42] po [41:42] ng [41:42] mga [41:42] testimony [41:43] ng [41:44] mga [41:44] witnesses [41:45] that [41:45] would [41:45] also [41:46] include [41:46] the [41:46] possible [41:47] occurrences [41:50] or [41:51] events [41:51] that [41:51] might [41:51] happen [41:52] during [41:53] the [41:53] actual [41:53] trial [41:54] so [41:54] this [41:54] is [41:54] part [41:55] of [41:55] the [41:55] possibility [41:55] in [41:56] contingency [41:56] plan [41:57] ready [41:57] na po [41:58] ang [41:58] house [41:58] prosecution [41:58] team [41:59] to [41:59] deal [42:00] with [42:00] whatever [42:00] eventualities [42:01] that [42:01] might [42:01] happen [42:02] in [42:02] the [42:02] actual [42:02] trial [42:03] follow-up [42:05] lang [42:05] meron [42:08] bang [42:09] power [42:10] ang [42:11] impeachment [42:11] court [42:12] to [42:12] contempt [42:13] for [42:14] contempt [42:15] kung [42:16] hindi [42:16] daratong [42:16] sa mga [42:17] ito [42:17] yes [42:18] yes [42:18] yes [42:18] yes [42:19] otherwise [42:21] the [42:21] power [42:22] to [42:23] issue [42:23] subpoena [42:23] will [42:24] have [42:24] no [42:24] meaning [42:24] so [42:25] yes [42:26] the [42:26] impeachment [42:27] court [42:27] has [42:27] the [42:27] power [42:28] to [42:28] compel [42:29] people [42:30] to [42:30] attend [42:30] them [42:30] and [42:31] to [42:31] set [42:31] them [42:31] contempt [42:32] if [42:32] they [42:32] continue [42:33] to [42:33] refuse [42:33] to [42:34] heed [42:34] such [42:35] directive [42:36] so [42:37] pwede [42:37] silang [42:38] kakaladka [42:38] rin [42:39] aaresto [42:40] and [42:40] kaladka [42:41] rin [42:41] sa [42:41] impeachment [42:41] sana [42:42] hindi [42:43] umabot [42:43] dun [42:44] sa [42:44] kaladka [42:44] kaladkaran [42:45] yes [42:50] sir [42:50] pwede [42:51] silang [42:52] ano [42:52] pwede [42:53] hong [42:54] i-compel [42:55] mag [42:56] attend [42:56] sila [42:56] otherwise [42:57] magiging [42:59] walang [42:59] visa [42:59] ang power [43:00] to issue [43:01] subpoena [43:01] actually [43:04] yun po yung purpose [43:06] ng subpoena [43:07] yun eh [43:07] yung [43:08] yung [43:09] just to [43:10] explain it [43:11] to more [43:11] layman [43:12] ano [43:12] ano [43:14] term [43:15] yun po yung [43:16] hindi naman kaladkarin [43:17] yung [43:18] kinakailangan [43:20] na [43:21] makapunta [43:22] sila [43:23] doon [43:23] sa korte [43:24] i think [43:24] that's the [43:24] very purpose [43:25] of [43:25] subpoena [43:26] no [43:27] one more [43:30] things [43:30] balik tayo [43:31] kay [43:32] mary [43:32] grace [43:33] piano [43:33] so [43:35] inilistan [43:38] niyo [43:38] siya [43:39] as [43:40] witness [43:41] ano yun [43:43] yung [43:44] sumulat [43:44] ng [43:44] mary [43:45] grace [43:45] piano [43:45] or [43:46] before [43:50] kay [43:51] attorney [43:52] jay [43:52] yun [43:53] yung [43:53] pinipresenta [43:54] nila [43:55] na itong [43:56] pumirma [43:56] na ito [43:57] na si [43:57] mary grace [43:58] piatos [43:58] sabihin pa [43:59] natin [44:00] na [44:00] codename [44:01] ito [44:01] siya [44:02] mismo [44:02] din [44:02] yung [44:02] pumirma [44:03] nung [44:04] acknowledgement [44:04] receipt [44:05] na yun [44:05] so [44:06] dalawa [44:06] po yun [44:06] pangalan [44:07] at [44:08] perma [44:08] at [44:09] petsa [44:10] at [44:10] lugar [44:11] so [44:12] ang [44:13] sinabi [44:13] po [44:13] ng [44:13] NBI [44:15] kung [44:15] babalikan [44:16] po [44:16] natin [44:17] yung [44:17] confirmation [44:17] hearings [44:18] nagkaroon [44:19] po [44:19] kasi [44:19] ng [44:19] sampling [44:19] ng [44:20] mga [44:21] acknowledgement [44:21] receipts [44:22] so [44:23] tinest [44:23] po [44:24] ito [44:24] ng [44:24] forensic [44:24] experts [44:25] yung [44:26] specimen [44:27] signatures [44:28] doon [44:28] sa [44:29] acknowledgement [44:29] receipts [44:30] and [44:30] they [44:31] derived [44:31] into [44:31] a [44:32] conclusion [44:32] na [44:33] mukhang [44:33] ang [44:34] pumirma [44:34] nitong [44:35] mga [44:35] acknowledgement [44:36] receipts [44:37] ay [44:37] isang [44:38] tao [44:38] so [44:40] andun [44:40] yung [44:41] issue [44:41] ng [44:41] one [44:42] tunay [44:43] ba [44:43] si [44:43] mary grace [44:44] piatos [44:44] pangalawa [44:46] kung [44:46] tunay [44:46] ba [44:46] siya [44:47] siya [44:47] ba [44:47] talaga [44:47] yung [44:48] pumirma [44:48] nung [44:49] acknowledgement [44:50] na yan [44:50] pangatlo [44:52] yung [44:53] halimbawa [44:54] lang [44:54] kasi [44:54] dudugtong [44:55] ko [44:55] na [44:55] hindi [44:55] lang [44:55] actually [44:56] si [44:56] mary grace [44:56] piatos [44:57] si mary grace [44:57] piatos [44:58] ay [44:58] lead [44:59] actress [45:00] may lead [45:00] actor [45:00] din [45:01] si [45:01] kokoy [45:02] billyamin [45:02] si [45:03] kokoy [45:04] billyamin [45:04] sa [45:05] confidential [45:05] funds [45:06] ay [45:06] nakatanggap [45:07] po siya [45:08] na [45:08] acknowledgement [45:08] receipt [45:09] sa [45:09] opisina [45:10] ng [45:10] vice [45:10] president [45:11] pati [45:11] na rin [45:12] sa [45:12] department [45:12] of [45:12] education [45:13] nakita [45:14] po [45:14] natin [45:15] si [45:15] kokoy [45:15] billyamin [45:16] ay [45:16] tumanggap [45:17] ng [45:17] acknowledgement [45:18] receipts [45:18] pero [45:19] yung [45:19] kanyang [45:20] firma [45:20] ay [45:21] magkaiba [45:21] pareho [45:22] po [45:23] yung [45:23] petsa [45:23] at yung [45:23] pangalan [45:24] pero [45:24] magkaiba [45:25] yung [45:26] kanyang [45:26] firma [45:26] ang [45:26] tanong [45:27] may tunay [45:28] ba yung [45:28] kokoy [45:28] billyamin [45:29] kung [45:29] tunay [45:30] ba [45:30] nakatanggap [45:31] pa siya [45:31] ng [45:32] confidential [45:32] funds [45:33] sa [45:33] magkaibang [45:33] lugar [45:34] pangalawa [45:34] pangatlong [45:35] tanong [45:36] ay [45:37] sa [45:37] kanya [45:38] ba [45:38] itong [45:38] mga [45:38] firma [45:39] na [45:39] ito [45:39] bakit [45:39] hindi [45:40] magkatugma [45:41] yung [45:41] firma [45:42] niya [45:43] doon [45:43] sa [45:43] confidential [45:44] funds [45:44] na [45:44] tinanggap [45:44] niya [45:45] di umano [45:46] sa [45:46] opisina [45:47] ng [45:47] vice [45:47] president [45:48] at [45:48] yung [45:48] tinanggap [45:49] niyang [45:49] confidential [45:51] funds [45:52] doon [45:52] sa [45:53] opisina [45:53] ng [45:54] department [45:54] of [45:55] education [45:55] kilala [45:58] nyo [45:58] kilala [45:59] nyo [45:59] na [45:59] sila [46:01] kilala [46:02] nyo [46:02] na [46:03] yung [46:03] mga [46:03] nagsulat [46:04] mga [46:05] gumawa [46:05] ng [46:06] acknowledgement [46:06] receipts [46:10] kilala [46:12] po [46:13] namin [46:13] sila [46:14] as [46:14] far [46:14] as [46:15] yung [46:15] pangalan [46:16] nila [46:16] na [46:17] nakasulat [46:18] sa [46:18] confidential [46:19] funds [46:19] kaya [46:20] nga [46:20] po [46:21] gusto [46:21] natin [46:21] ang [46:22] taong [46:22] bayan [46:23] ay [46:24] at [46:24] ang [46:24] korte [46:25] na [46:26] malaman [46:26] kung [46:27] tunay [46:27] itong [46:28] taong [46:29] ito [46:29] si [46:29] Mary [46:29] Gris [46:29] Piatos [46:30] at [46:32] si [46:32] Koke [46:33] Villamin [46:34] kung [46:34] tama [46:34] ba [46:34] na [46:35] merong [46:35] klaseng [46:36] tao [46:36] na [46:37] naggangalan [46:38] kung [46:38] sabi [46:38] naman [46:38] nilang [46:39] codename [46:39] eh [46:40] okay [46:41] codename [46:41] pero [46:42] aling [46:42] asahan [46:42] po [46:42] yung [46:43] mga [46:43] attachment [46:43] para [46:45] ikfaw [46:46] ang [46:47] koa [46:47] ay [46:47] malaman [46:48] nila [46:48] at [46:48] masuri [46:49] nila [46:49] na [46:50] itong [46:50] codename [46:51] na [46:51] ito [46:51] ang [46:52] tunay [46:52] niyang [46:53] pangalan [46:53] at [46:54] tama [46:54] yung [46:54] paggasta [46:55] ng [46:55] confidential [46:56] funds [46:56] as [46:57] as [46:57] far [46:57] as [46:57] we [46:58] are [46:58] concerned [46:58] we [46:59] know [46:59] the [46:59] person [47:00] to [47:00] be [47:00] Kokoy [47:00] Villamin [47:01] but [47:02] as [47:02] to [47:03] his [47:03] real [47:04] identity [47:04] which [47:05] debunked [47:06] by [47:06] the [47:06] experts [47:07] report [47:08] from [47:09] NBI [47:09] and [47:10] from [47:10] PSA [47:11] na [47:11] walang [47:12] tao [47:12] with [47:13] the [47:13] name [47:14] of [47:14] Mary [47:14] Gays [47:14] Piatos [47:15] and [47:16] probably [47:16] with [47:17] that [47:17] of [47:17] Kokoy [47:17] Villamin [47:18] last [47:20] word [47:20] for [47:21] me [47:21] nakalagay [47:23] dun [47:24] sa trial [47:24] brief [47:24] meron [47:25] kayong [47:25] mga [47:26] reserve [47:26] witness [47:26] ang [47:27] nakalagay [47:28] dun [47:28] sa [47:28] mga [47:28] reserve [47:29] witness [47:29] yung [47:29] mga [47:29] tumanggap [47:30] pero [47:31] meron [47:35] silang [47:35] pangalan [47:35] sa [47:36] acknowledgement [47:36] receipt [47:37] pero [47:37] hindi [47:38] sila [47:39] nakatanggap [47:40] ng [47:40] fans [47:41] so [47:42] kilala [47:43] nyo [47:43] na [47:43] kung [47:43] sino [47:43] yung [47:44] mga [47:44] yun [47:44] at [47:47] reserve [47:47] witness [47:47] nyo [47:48] meron [47:49] kami [47:50] bigyan [47:51] naman [47:51] kami [47:52] ng [47:52] konting [47:52] idea [47:53] tungkol [47:53] din [47:54] yun [47:55] one [47:56] of [47:56] the [47:56] actual [47:57] reasons [47:58] why [47:58] you're [47:59] allowed [47:59] to have [48:00] reserved [48:00] witnesses [48:01] the [48:02] rules [48:03] allowed [48:04] during [48:05] pre-trial [48:05] you have [48:06] not yet [48:07] identified [48:08] the identity [48:09] of these [48:10] people [48:10] then [48:11] you [48:12] consider [48:13] them [48:13] as [48:13] reserved [48:13] witnesses [48:14] dahil [48:15] hindi [48:15] nyo [48:15] mailagay [48:16] yung [48:16] saktong [48:17] pagkakal [48:18] kilal [48:18] niya [48:18] surprise [48:21] na [48:21] yan [48:21] yun [48:22] yung [48:23] mga [48:23] tinatawag [48:23] na [48:23] surprise [48:24] hindi [48:25] surprise [48:25] reserved [48:26] witness [48:26] kasi [48:27] kung [48:27] surprise [48:27] ibig [48:28] sabihin [48:28] talaga [48:28] magkakagulatan [48:29] yan [48:30] but [48:30] hindi [48:30] yan [48:30] magiging [48:31] surprise [48:31] dahil [48:32] before [48:33] we [48:33] present [48:34] them [48:34] in [48:34] court [48:35] bibigyan [48:36] naman [48:36] ng [48:37] proper [48:38] notice [48:38] both [48:39] the [48:39] court [48:39] and [48:40] the [48:40] other [48:40] party [48:41] so [48:41] i-disclose [48:42] na [48:43] ko [48:43] yung [48:43] identity [48:43] sa [48:44] other [48:44] party [48:45] in a [48:46] reasonable [48:47] period [48:47] before [48:48] that [48:48] witness [48:49] is [48:49] actually [48:49] presented [48:50] in [48:50] court [48:50] so [48:51] wala [48:51] pa [48:51] rin [48:51] naman [48:51] hong [48:52] surprise [48:52] dyan [48:53] I think [48:55] si [48:55] attorney [48:56] jay [48:56] yung [48:56] sinasabi [48:57] niyang [48:57] notice [48:59] kasi [49:00] na [49:00] unang [49:00] nirelease [49:01] ng [49:01] senado [49:01] po [49:02] ng [49:02] corte [49:03] i-think [49:04] the [49:04] three [49:04] days [49:05] prior [49:05] to [49:05] the [49:06] presentation [49:06] of [49:07] of [49:08] this [49:08] witness [49:08] even [49:10] the [49:10] testimony [49:11] in [49:11] documents [49:12] kasi [49:12] ibig [49:13] sabihin [49:13] kung [49:13] hindi [49:13] po [49:14] available [49:14] nung [49:14] oras [49:15] na [49:15] yun [49:15] ipapaalam [49:17] na [49:17] sa [49:19] corte [49:20] na [49:20] itong [49:21] dokumento [49:22] itong [49:22] witness [49:23] may [49:23] papresenta [49:24] namin [49:24] three [49:26] days [49:26] prior [49:26] to [49:27] the [49:27] actual [49:27] presentation [49:28] of [49:28] the [49:28] documents [49:29] and [49:29] the [49:29] testimony [49:30] testimony [49:31] evidence [49:32] including [49:32] the [49:33] evidence [49:33] itself [49:34] so [49:34] ganun [49:34] po [49:35] yung [49:35] magiging [49:36] according [49:37] to the [49:38] notice [49:38] coming [49:38] from [49:39] the [49:39] Senate [49:39] Impeachment [49:40] Court [49:40] That is [49:41] true [49:41] Thank you [49:44] Thank you [49:49] Bernard [49:50] We will [49:50] now call [49:51] on [49:52] Rosalikos [49:53] from [49:53] UNTV [49:54] Rose [49:54] you're [49:55] recognized [49:56] Hello [49:57] Good [49:57] morning [49:58] everyone [49:58] UNTV [50:00] Rosalikos [50:01] Una [50:02] article [50:03] na [50:03] isasalang [50:04] ng [50:05] prosecution [50:06] pag [50:06] nag-umbisa [50:06] na [50:06] yung [50:07] paglilitis [50:07] yun [50:07] grave [50:08] threats [50:08] and [50:09] inciting [50:09] to [50:09] sedition [50:10] and [50:11] according [50:11] sa inyo [50:12] pre-trial [50:13] brief [50:13] nandito [50:14] po [50:14] yung [50:15] Philippine [50:15] National [50:15] Police [50:16] Firearms [50:17] and [50:17] Explosive [50:17] Office [50:18] representatives [50:19] sa hanay [50:20] po [50:20] ng [50:20] witnesses [50:21] po [50:22] na [50:22] iprepresent [50:22] gano [50:23] po [50:24] crucial [50:24] yung [50:24] kanila [50:25] pong [50:25] testimony [50:26] testimony [50:26] um [50:31] kabilang [50:41] po [50:41] sa [50:41] witnesses [50:41] po [50:42] ng [50:42] prosecution [50:42] para [50:43] po [50:43] sa [50:43] grave [50:43] threats [50:44] and [50:44] inciting [50:45] to [50:45] sedition [50:45] yun pong [50:46] Philippine [50:46] National [50:47] Police [50:47] Firearms [50:48] and [50:48] Explosives [50:49] Office [50:49] representative [50:50] gano po [50:51] kacrucial [50:52] yung [50:52] kanilang [50:52] magiging [50:53] testimony [50:53] jay [50:56] would you [50:57] like [50:57] to [50:57] that's [50:57] the [50:57] detail [50:58] yes [50:58] without [51:00] again [51:01] without [51:01] going [51:01] too [51:02] much [51:02] into [51:03] the [51:04] weight [51:04] of [51:05] the [51:05] evidence [51:05] purpose [51:06] of [51:06] the [51:06] evidence [51:06] etc [51:07] but [51:07] this [51:08] could [51:08] establish [51:08] among [51:09] others [51:09] the [51:10] capability [51:11] to [51:11] carry out [51:12] threats [51:12] but [51:13] for [51:14] now [51:15] I hope [51:16] you'll [51:16] understand [51:16] that [51:17] that's [51:18] the extent [51:18] that I [51:18] could [51:19] reveal [51:19] capability [51:22] to [51:23] carry out [51:25] threats [51:25] because [51:26] threats [51:26] have been [51:27] made [51:27] so [51:28] that [51:29] would [51:29] be [51:29] material [51:30] on that [51:30] point [51:31] May [51:31] relasyon [51:32] po ba [51:32] ito [51:33] dun po [51:33] sa [51:33] mga [51:33] firearms [51:34] na [51:34] pagmamayari [51:35] po [51:35] ng [51:36] pangalawang [51:36] Pangulo [51:36] Let's [51:39] wait [51:39] and [51:39] see [51:39] we'll [51:40] show [51:40] the [51:40] details [51:41] you're [51:41] in [51:41] China [51:42] Most [51:43] of [51:44] the [51:44] witnesses [51:44] po [51:44] kasi [51:45] na [51:45] listed [51:45] po [51:45] dito [51:46] po [51:46] sa [51:46] pre [51:46] trial [51:47] brief [51:47] ay [51:47] na [51:47] i-presenta [51:48] na [51:48] po [51:48] sa [51:48] House [51:48] Justice [51:48] Committee [51:49] and [51:49] ang [51:50] bago [51:50] po [51:50] para [51:51] sa [51:51] amin [51:51] ayun [51:51] nga [51:51] nga [51:51] po [51:52] si [51:52] Sheriff [51:52] Abe [51:53] Andres [51:53] Maituturing [51:55] po [51:55] siyang [51:55] star [51:56] witness [51:56] Not [52:00] not [52:00] really [52:00] a [52:01] star [52:01] witness [52:01] but [52:02] a [52:02] material [52:03] one [52:04] And [52:05] then [52:05] po [52:06] sa [52:06] reserve [52:06] witness [52:06] nyo [52:07] naman [52:07] po [52:07] dito [52:07] rin [52:08] po [52:08] sa [52:08] article [52:08] na [52:08] grave [52:09] if [52:09] I [52:09] could [52:09] just [52:09] add [52:10] to [52:10] that [52:10] specifically [52:11] with [52:12] regard [52:13] to [52:13] the [52:13] grave [52:13] threats [52:13] we [52:15] don't [52:17] need [52:17] any [52:17] star [52:18] witness [52:18] here [52:18] to [52:20] be [52:20] quite [52:20] frank [52:20] because [52:21] ang [52:23] witness [52:24] na [52:24] dito [52:24] siguro [52:25] is [52:25] mismo [52:26] ang [52:26] respondent [52:27] na [52:27] if [52:28] you [52:28] could [52:29] put [52:29] it [52:29] in [52:30] simple [52:30] terms [52:31] dahil [52:31] kitang-kita [52:32] naman [52:33] dun [52:33] sa [52:33] mga [52:34] video [52:34] footages [52:35] which [52:35] was [52:36] made [52:36] publicly [52:37] available [52:38] yung [52:38] subject [52:39] utterances [52:39] niya [52:40] so [52:40] hindi [52:40] na [52:40] namin [52:41] kailangan [52:41] mag-presenta [52:42] pa [52:42] ng [52:42] ibang [52:43] witness [52:43] to [52:43] prove [52:43] those [52:44] matters [52:45] Clarification [52:47] lang po [52:47] so [52:47] you're [52:48] regarding [52:48] the vice [52:49] president [52:49] a [52:50] stark [52:50] witness [52:51] against [52:51] herself [52:52] not [52:55] really [52:55] but [52:55] just [52:56] to [52:57] drive [52:57] home [52:57] the [52:57] point [52:57] that [52:58] we [52:58] don't [52:58] need [52:59] any [52:59] other [52:59] witness [53:00] to [53:00] prove [53:01] that [53:01] those [53:01] utterances [53:02] were [53:02] made [53:03] kasi [53:03] clear [53:04] na [53:04] yan [53:04] sa [53:05] mga [53:06] widely [53:07] circulated [53:08] videos [53:09] and [53:09] even [53:10] in [53:12] her [53:12] subsequent [53:13] press [53:14] conferences [53:14] she [53:15] also [53:15] did [53:16] in fact [53:17] confirm [53:17] having [53:18] made [53:18] those [53:19] statements [53:19] rose [53:20] dadagdag [53:21] ko [53:21] you're [53:22] asking [53:22] about [53:22] the [53:22] star [53:23] witness [53:23] the [53:23] star [53:23] witness [53:24] is [53:24] ang [53:24] sambayan [53:25] ng [53:25] Pilipino [53:25] we [53:26] all [53:26] heard [53:27] the [53:27] vice [53:27] president [53:27] made [53:28] these [53:28] threats [53:29] we [53:29] all [53:30] watch [53:30] how [53:30] the [53:30] vice [53:31] president [53:31] was [53:31] really [53:32] angry [53:32] when [53:33] she [53:33] was [53:33] uttering [53:34] these [53:34] threats [53:35] for [53:36] all [53:36] of [53:36] us [53:36] to [53:37] see [53:37] so [53:37] we [53:38] are [53:38] all [53:38] witness [53:38] to [53:39] this [53:39] collaborated [53:40] by [53:41] the [53:41] official [53:41] report [53:42] of [53:42] NBI [53:43] that [53:43] this [53:43] video [53:44] was [53:45] not [53:45] doctored [53:46] or [53:46] manufactured [53:47] it was [53:47] the [53:48] vice [53:48] president [53:48] herself [53:49] saying [53:49] these [53:50] utterances [53:50] and [53:51] seriously [53:52] making [53:53] these [53:53] utterances [53:54] because [53:55] she [53:55] described [53:55] it as [53:56] no joke [53:57] no joke [53:58] all right [54:01] thank you [54:02] sir [54:02] regarding [54:03] naman [54:03] po [54:03] dito [54:04] sa [54:04] reserve [54:04] witness [54:04] nyo [54:05] pa rin [54:05] po [54:05] sa [54:06] grave [54:06] threats [54:07] and [54:07] inciting [54:07] to [54:07] sedition [54:08] you're [54:09] seeking [54:09] or [54:09] you're [54:09] planning [54:10] to [54:10] present [54:10] a [54:11] family [54:11] or [54:11] family [54:12] member [54:12] of [54:13] a [54:13] victim [54:13] of [54:14] threats [54:14] so [54:15] are [54:15] you [54:15] eyeing [54:15] to [54:16] present [54:16] a [54:17] relative [54:18] or [54:19] family [54:19] member [54:19] of [54:20] the [54:20] president [54:20] the [54:21] first [54:21] lady [54:21] or [54:22] the [54:22] former [54:22] house [54:23] speaker [54:23] yeah [54:25] I hope [54:26] you [54:26] understand [54:26] again [54:27] that [54:27] we [54:27] can't [54:27] disclose [54:30] permission [54:31] at [54:31] this [54:31] point [54:31] so [54:31] let's [54:32] wait [54:32] for [54:32] that [54:33] to [54:33] unfold [54:34] Ms. [54:35] Rose [54:35] what [54:35] we [54:36] can [54:36] guarantee [54:36] to [54:36] you [54:37] is [54:37] that [54:38] all [54:38] the [54:38] witnesses [54:39] that [54:39] we [54:40] will [54:40] present [54:40] will [54:41] be [54:42] important [54:44] and [54:46] their [54:46] testimony [54:47] are [54:49] indispensable [54:49] in [54:50] trying [54:51] to [54:51] prove [54:51] the [54:52] allegations [54:52] as contained [54:54] in the [54:54] articles [54:54] of [54:55] impeachment [54:55] all [54:56] right [54:56] last [54:57] one [54:57] may [54:57] part [54:57] na [54:57] po [54:58] following [54:59] po [54:59] ng [54:59] conclusion [54:59] ng [55:00] pre-trial [55:00] conference [55:01] and [55:01] we're [55:02] waiting [55:02] for [55:02] the [55:03] pre-trial [55:03] brief [55:03] po [55:04] ng [55:04] senate [55:04] impeachment [55:05] court [55:05] meron [55:06] na po [55:06] ba [55:06] kayong [55:06] anticipated [55:07] na magiging [55:08] takbo [55:08] ng [55:08] trial [55:09] given [55:09] that [55:10] during [55:10] the [55:11] pre-trial [55:11] conference [55:12] the [55:12] defense [55:13] panel [55:13] objected [55:15] the [55:15] opening [55:15] of [55:15] the [55:16] sealed [55:16] BIR [55:17] box [55:17] they [55:17] objected [55:18] it [55:18] to [55:18] be [55:19] marked [55:19] I [55:22] am [55:25] hearing [55:26] someone [55:26] else [55:26] talking [55:27] hello [55:29] can you [55:30] repeat [55:30] the [55:30] question [55:30] yes [55:32] sorry [55:32] following [55:33] po [55:33] ng [55:33] conclusion [55:34] ng [55:34] pre-trial [55:35] conference [55:36] for the [55:36] impeachment [55:36] trial [55:37] more or [55:38] less [55:38] meron [55:38] na po [55:39] kayong [55:39] anticipated [55:40] na magiging [55:40] takbo [55:41] ng [55:41] trial [55:41] pag [55:42] nagumpisa [55:42] na po [55:43] sa [55:43] July 6 [55:44] especially [55:44] that [55:44] the [55:45] defense [55:45] panel [55:46] have [55:46] objected [55:46] to mark [55:47] the [55:47] BIR [55:47] box [55:48] or [55:48] open [55:48] the [55:48] sealed [55:48] box [55:49] they [55:49] they [55:49] also [55:49] did [55:50] not [55:50] agree [55:50] with [55:50] common [55:51] marking [55:51] and [55:51] will [55:52] block [55:52] the [55:52] presentation [55:52] of [55:53] evidence [55:53] related [55:55] ng [55:55] hindi [55:55] pa po [55:56] vice [55:56] president [55:57] si [55:57] D.P. [55:57] Duterte [55:57] So [55:59] this [55:59] strategy [56:00] is [56:01] consistent [56:01] with [56:02] what [56:02] they've [56:03] done [56:03] starting [56:04] from [56:05] the [56:05] proceedings [56:06] before [56:06] the [56:06] House [56:06] of [56:07] Representatives [56:07] and [56:08] even [56:08] when [56:08] they [56:08] found [56:09] their [56:09] answer [56:09] to [56:09] the [56:09] articles [56:10] of [56:10] impeachment [56:10] everyone [56:11] has [56:12] noted [56:12] that [56:13] their [56:14] main [56:14] defense [56:15] is [56:15] really [56:15] to [56:15] raise [56:16] procedural [56:17] arguments [56:18] and [56:19] technicalities [56:19] so [56:20] we've [56:20] anticipated [56:21] this [56:21] that [56:22] this [56:22] is [56:22] exactly [56:22] what [56:22] they're [56:24] going [56:24] to do [56:24] during [56:25] pre-trial [56:25] and [56:26] even [56:26] during [56:27] the [56:27] trial [56:28] itself [56:28] they'll [56:29] try to [56:29] block [56:29] representation [56:30] of [56:31] witnesses [56:31] or [56:32] documents [56:32] but [56:32] we're [56:33] prepared [56:33] to [56:33] argue [56:34] against [56:34] that [56:34] Thank you [56:43] Rose [56:43] Next [56:45] is [56:45] Marian [56:48] Good [56:50] morning [56:50] Sir [56:52] Regarding [56:54] grave [56:56] threats [56:57] I'll [56:57] ask [56:58] Rose [56:59] You [56:59] also [57:00] listed [57:00] as [57:01] witnesses [57:01] some [57:03] journalists [57:04] and a [57:05] psychiatrist [57:05] Can you elaborate [57:07] the significance [57:08] of their [57:08] testimony [57:09] in the [57:10] trial? [57:12] Again [57:13] without [57:13] going too [57:14] much [57:14] to [57:14] the [57:14] details [57:14] it's [57:15] possible [57:15] for [57:16] example [57:16] to [57:17] present [57:19] journalists [57:20] who have [57:20] personally [57:21] witnessed [57:23] some [57:23] of [57:24] the [57:24] utterances [57:26] which [57:28] we will [57:29] highlight [57:29] to the [57:30] public [57:30] because [57:30] they're [57:30] relevant [57:31] to [57:31] these [57:31] articles [57:32] of [57:32] impeachment [57:33] and [57:34] the [57:34] psychiatrist [57:35] could [57:35] also [57:35] be [57:36] presented [57:36] to [57:36] show [57:37] the [57:38] seriousness [57:38] of [57:39] the [57:39] threats [57:40] if [57:42] it [57:42] appeared [57:43] that [57:43] the [57:43] person [57:43] making [57:44] them [57:44] these [57:45] utterances [57:46] meant [57:46] them [57:47] and [57:47] they [57:47] were [57:47] not [57:47] meant [57:48] in [57:48] jest [57:49] so [57:49] but [57:50] again [57:50] that's [57:51] the [57:51] extent [57:51] that [57:51] I [57:51] could [57:52] disclose [57:52] at [57:52] this [57:52] point [57:53] I [57:54] think [57:55] it's [57:55] also [57:56] a way [57:59] to [57:59] strengthen [57:59] what [58:01] the [58:01] NBI [58:02] according [58:04] to [58:04] their [58:04] investigation [58:05] has [58:05] reported [58:06] that [58:07] this [58:08] is [58:08] not [58:08] a [58:08] doctored [58:09] video [58:10] it [58:10] is [58:10] not [58:11] a [58:11] manufactured [58:11] video [58:12] so [58:13] having [58:14] those [58:14] present [58:15] during [58:15] the [58:15] press [58:16] briefing [58:17] or [58:18] the [58:18] meeting [58:19] or [58:19] whatever [58:20] you [58:20] can [58:20] call [58:20] it [58:21] the [58:21] vice [58:22] president [58:22] made [58:22] these [58:23] utterances [58:23] those [58:24] real [58:24] persons [58:25] journalists [58:25] can [58:26] in [58:26] fact [58:26] be [58:27] important [58:27] their [58:28] testimony [58:28] and [58:29] also [58:29] strengthening [58:30] the [58:31] report [58:32] of the [58:32] NBI [58:32] that [58:33] this [58:33] is [58:33] not [58:33] doctored [58:33] for [58:34] manufactured [58:34] thank [58:37] you [58:37] regarding [58:39] the [58:39] article [58:39] unexplained [58:40] wealth [58:40] I just [58:41] noticed [58:41] that [58:41] it's [58:55] up for [58:55] the [58:56] defense [58:56] if they [58:57] want to [58:57] present [58:58] him [58:58] as [58:58] their [58:59] own [58:59] witness [58:59] to [59:00] counter [59:01] the [59:01] allegations [59:02] and [59:02] the [59:02] evidence [59:03] that [59:03] we [59:03] will [59:03] present [59:04] but [59:04] what [59:05] is [59:06] important [59:06] here [59:07] is [59:07] we [59:07] will [59:07] be [59:08] able [59:08] to [59:08] establish [59:09] by [59:09] presenting [59:10] relevant [59:11] documents [59:11] the [59:11] AMLOC [59:12] reports [59:13] the [59:14] SAL [59:15] ENDS [59:15] and [59:16] bank [59:17] records [59:18] and [59:19] hopefully [59:20] the [59:20] BIR [59:21] ITRs [59:22] as well [59:22] to prove [59:23] the [59:23] allegation [59:24] that [59:24] the [59:26] assets [59:27] and [59:27] liabilities [59:28] and total [59:29] net worth [59:29] of the [59:30] respondent [59:31] and her [59:31] spouse [59:31] which [59:35] were [59:35] disclosed [59:36] in her [59:37] SAL [59:37] ENDS [59:37] this [59:39] do not [59:40] match [59:40] her [59:41] actual [59:42] wealth [59:42] and [59:43] net worth [59:43] so [59:49] there's [59:50] no need [59:51] for [59:51] insofar [59:53] as we're [59:54] concerned [59:54] there's [59:54] no need [59:55] for the [59:55] husband [59:56] to testify [59:56] because [59:57] these [59:57] matters [59:58] would [59:59] be [59:59] established [1:00:00] by the [1:00:01] documents [1:00:01] that we'll [1:00:02] be [1:00:02] presenting [1:00:03] yes [1:00:04] Marian [1:00:05] you want [1:00:06] me to [1:00:06] comment [1:00:06] do you [1:00:08] think [1:00:08] kailangan [1:00:09] din [1:00:10] or [1:00:10] okay [1:00:10] na [1:00:11] yan [1:00:11] well [1:00:11] I [1:00:12] personally [1:00:13] trust [1:00:16] and [1:00:17] confident [1:00:18] with how [1:00:19] the [1:00:19] house [1:00:19] prosecution [1:00:19] would [1:00:20] be [1:00:20] able [1:00:20] to [1:00:21] present [1:00:21] the [1:00:22] articles [1:00:22] of [1:00:22] impeachment [1:00:23] and [1:00:24] I [1:00:24] believe [1:00:24] in [1:00:24] the [1:00:24] judgment [1:00:25] of [1:00:25] the [1:00:25] house [1:00:25] prosecution [1:00:26] team [1:00:26] kung [1:00:27] sino [1:00:27] po [1:00:27] nakalagay [1:00:28] dyan [1:00:28] ng [1:00:28] mga [1:00:28] witnesses [1:00:30] ano [1:00:31] po [1:00:31] nakalagay [1:00:31] dyan [1:00:32] ng [1:00:32] mga [1:00:32] testimonial [1:00:32] evidence [1:00:33] material [1:00:33] evidence [1:00:34] ay [1:00:35] naayon [1:00:35] sa [1:00:36] pagpapresenta [1:00:36] ng [1:00:37] case [1:00:38] sa [1:00:38] korte [1:00:39] na [1:00:39] hindi [1:00:39] lang [1:00:40] ma-prove [1:00:41] na [1:00:41] tama [1:00:41] yung [1:00:42] allegation [1:00:42] pero [1:00:43] magiging [1:00:44] mas [1:00:44] madali [1:00:45] intindihin [1:00:46] ng [1:00:46] ating [1:00:46] taong [1:00:47] bayan [1:00:47] so [1:00:47] whoever [1:00:48] is [1:00:49] listed [1:00:49] there [1:00:49] as [1:00:49] the [1:00:49] witness [1:00:50] of [1:00:50] the [1:00:50] prosecution [1:00:51] I'm [1:00:52] confident [1:00:52] that [1:00:52] they [1:00:53] can [1:00:53] actually [1:00:53] deliver [1:00:53] to [1:00:54] the [1:00:54] court [1:00:54] what [1:00:55] really [1:00:55] are [1:00:55] the [1:00:56] evidence [1:00:56] and [1:00:57] that [1:00:58] would [1:00:58] be [1:00:58] corroborated [1:00:59] by [1:00:59] witnesses [1:01:00] for [1:01:01] not [1:01:01] only [1:01:02] for [1:01:02] the [1:01:02] Senate [1:01:02] to [1:01:03] arrive [1:01:04] into [1:01:04] sound [1:01:04] judgment [1:01:05] but [1:01:05] for [1:01:05] the [1:01:06] clarity [1:01:06] of [1:01:07] the [1:01:07] Filipino [1:01:07] people [1:01:08] last [1:01:10] sir [1:01:11] you [1:01:11] mentioned [1:01:12] Kong Zia [1:01:12] and [1:01:13] Kong [1:01:14] Jay [1:01:14] yung [1:01:16] defense [1:01:17] regarding [1:01:17] doon [1:01:18] sa [1:01:18] BIR [1:01:18] box [1:01:18] they [1:01:19] do not [1:01:19] have [1:01:19] the [1:01:19] right [1:01:19] to [1:01:20] object [1:01:20] to [1:01:20] it [1:01:20] even [1:01:21] yung [1:01:21] marking [1:01:21] nga [1:01:21] po [1:01:21] nung [1:01:22] box [1:01:22] na [1:01:23] in [1:01:23] object [1:01:24] nila [1:01:24] and [1:01:25] Kong [1:01:25] Zia [1:01:26] sinabi [1:01:26] mo [1:01:26] kanina [1:01:26] takot [1:01:27] sila [1:01:27] sa [1:01:27] pagbubukas [1:01:28] ng [1:01:28] box [1:01:28] na [1:01:28] ito [1:01:28] even [1:01:29] Chair [1:01:29] Luistro [1:01:30] said [1:01:30] that [1:01:30] yesterday [1:01:31] ano [1:01:31] bang [1:01:31] meron [1:01:31] sa [1:01:31] box [1:01:32] na [1:01:32] ito [1:01:32] takot [1:01:33] silang [1:01:33] ilabas [1:01:33] to [1:01:34] ano [1:01:34] ba [1:01:34] sa [1:01:34] tingin [1:01:35] nyo [1:01:35] sir [1:01:35] ang [1:01:35] kano [1:01:37] kabigat [1:01:37] yung [1:01:39] makikita [1:01:39] natin [1:01:40] dito [1:01:40] sa [1:01:40] box [1:01:41] na [1:01:41] to [1:01:41] kasi [1:01:41] bigat [1:01:42] din [1:01:42] ba [1:01:42] nung [1:01:42] mga [1:01:42] nakita [1:01:43] natin [1:01:43] ng [1:01:43] amlock [1:01:44] records [1:01:44] the [1:01:44] bank [1:01:45] transactions [1:01:46] ni [1:01:47] VP [1:01:47] sarat [1:01:47] ng [1:01:47] kanya [1:01:48] asawa [1:01:48] I'll [1:01:50] go [1:01:50] first [1:01:50] before [1:01:51] attorney [1:01:52] Jay [1:01:52] could [1:01:52] explain [1:01:53] one [1:01:53] there's [1:01:54] no [1:01:54] other [1:01:54] way [1:01:54] to [1:01:55] describe [1:01:55] the [1:01:55] reaction [1:01:56] than [1:01:56] takot [1:01:57] ayaw [1:01:59] nilang [1:01:59] makita [1:01:59] sabi [1:02:00] nga [1:02:00] half [1:02:01] big [1:02:01] yung [1:02:01] gusto [1:02:01] nilang [1:02:02] pag-usapan [1:02:02] sa [1:02:03] korte [1:02:03] what [1:02:03] we [1:02:04] want [1:02:04] for [1:02:05] the [1:02:05] court [1:02:05] to [1:02:05] appreciate [1:02:06] is [1:02:06] the [1:02:06] entire [1:02:07] financial [1:02:08] picture [1:02:08] insofar [1:02:10] as [1:02:11] the [1:02:11] declared [1:02:13] assets [1:02:14] declared [1:02:14] liabilities [1:02:15] and the [1:02:15] declared [1:02:16] lawful [1:02:16] income [1:02:17] of the [1:02:17] vice [1:02:17] president [1:02:18] and her [1:02:19] spouse [1:02:20] kasi [1:02:20] by virtue [1:02:21] of their [1:02:21] union [1:02:21] talagang [1:02:22] they're [1:02:22] considered [1:02:23] legally [1:02:23] as [1:02:24] one [1:02:24] entity [1:02:24] panganawa [1:02:26] tanong mo [1:02:27] ano ba [1:02:28] talagang [1:02:28] kinakatakutan [1:02:29] dito [1:02:29] siyempre [1:02:31] hindi po [1:02:31] magsisinungaling [1:02:33] ang dokumento [1:02:34] makikita po [1:02:35] natin [1:02:35] yung kanilang [1:02:36] binabayaran [1:02:37] ng mga [1:02:37] taxes [1:02:37] kung ano [1:02:39] po yung [1:02:39] pag-aari [1:02:40] nilang [1:02:40] mga [1:02:41] yaman [1:02:41] at [1:02:42] ano po [1:02:42] yung [1:02:43] mga [1:02:43] kanilang [1:02:43] mga [1:02:44] liabilities [1:02:45] sila [1:02:45] so [1:02:45] hindi po [1:02:46] magsisinungaling [1:02:47] ang taxes [1:02:47] ang tanong [1:02:48] ng taong [1:02:49] bayan [1:02:49] takot ba [1:02:50] tayo [1:02:50] sa katotohanan [1:02:51] kung [1:02:52] ang sinasabi [1:02:53] po [1:02:53] ng [1:02:53] ITRs [1:02:55] na ito [1:02:55] ay [1:02:55] ang [1:02:56] pawang [1:02:56] katotohanan [1:02:57] katotohanan [1:02:58] at katotohanan [1:02:59] lamang [1:02:59] at yun naman [1:03:00] ang gusto [1:03:00] ng prosecution [1:03:01] may lahat [1:03:02] sa taong [1:03:02] bayan [1:03:02] ang katotohanan [1:03:03] at pawang [1:03:04] katotohanan [1:03:05] lamang [1:03:05] mukhang [1:03:07] ang [1:03:07] reservation [1:03:08] nila [1:03:08] or ang [1:03:09] pag-object [1:03:09] nila [1:03:10] ay [1:03:10] tama [1:03:12] yung [1:03:12] ating [1:03:13] observation [1:03:13] na takot [1:03:14] sila [1:03:14] sa katotohanan [1:03:15] so [1:03:16] yun lang po [1:03:16] ang [1:03:17] observation [1:03:18] natin [1:03:19] at [1:03:20] there's no [1:03:20] other way [1:03:20] again [1:03:21] to describe [1:03:22] it [1:03:22] but [1:03:23] kinakatakutan [1:03:24] nila [1:03:24] itong [1:03:24] box [1:03:25] kasi nga [1:03:25] mukhang [1:03:26] hindi lang [1:03:26] ito [1:03:27] smoking [1:03:27] gun [1:03:27] mukhang [1:03:28] arsenal [1:03:29] na ito [1:03:29] ng armory [1:03:30] na ayaw nilang [1:03:31] mailahad [1:03:32] sa buong taong bayan [1:03:33] hello [1:03:43] hello [1:03:43] can you hear me [1:03:44] yes [1:03:45] yes [1:03:46] yes [1:03:46] so [1:03:46] just to [1:03:47] add to [1:03:47] that [1:03:47] to [1:03:48] address [1:03:48] the [1:03:48] question [1:03:49] as [1:03:49] well [1:03:49] of [1:03:49] what [1:03:50] are [1:03:50] the [1:03:50] contents [1:03:51] of [1:03:51] this [1:03:51] box [1:03:53] so [1:03:53] again [1:03:53] pursuant to [1:03:54] the [1:03:54] subpoena [1:03:55] issued [1:03:55] to them [1:03:56] by the [1:03:56] house [1:03:57] committee [1:03:57] on [1:03:57] justice [1:03:57] this [1:03:58] should [1:03:58] contain [1:03:59] the [1:03:59] ITRs [1:04:00] of [1:04:01] the [1:04:01] respondent [1:04:01] and [1:04:02] their [1:04:02] spouse [1:04:02] so [1:04:03] dito [1:04:03] malalahad [1:04:05] kung [1:04:05] ano [1:04:05] yung [1:04:06] declared [1:04:06] income [1:04:07] nila [1:04:07] so [1:04:08] this [1:04:08] is [1:04:09] material [1:04:09] because [1:04:09] this [1:04:10] we [1:04:10] will [1:04:10] have [1:04:11] to [1:04:11] take [1:04:11] this [1:04:11] together [1:04:12] with [1:04:12] their [1:04:13] sal [1:04:13] ends [1:04:14] to [1:04:14] see [1:04:15] if [1:04:15] the [1:04:15] declared [1:04:16] income [1:04:17] matches [1:04:18] the [1:04:19] assets [1:04:21] liabilities [1:04:21] and [1:04:22] net [1:04:22] worth [1:04:22] indicated [1:04:24] in the [1:04:24] sal [1:04:25] ends [1:04:25] and [1:04:25] their [1:04:25] position [1:04:25] is [1:04:26] there's [1:04:27] a [1:04:27] discrepancy [1:04:28] and [1:04:29] even [1:04:30] just [1:04:30] for [1:04:30] that [1:04:31] the [1:04:31] declared [1:04:31] income [1:04:32] do [1:04:33] not [1:04:33] meet [1:04:33] the [1:04:35] net [1:04:36] worth [1:04:37] indicated [1:04:38] in the [1:04:38] sal [1:04:38] ends [1:04:39] in [1:04:41] fact [1:04:42] you [1:04:42] own [1:04:43] what [1:04:43] the [1:04:44] wealth [1:04:46] that [1:04:46] they've [1:04:46] actually [1:04:47] accumulated [1:04:47] is [1:04:48] way [1:04:48] more [1:04:48] than [1:04:49] what's [1:04:50] disclosed [1:04:51] in [1:04:52] the [1:04:52] sal [1:04:52] end [1:04:52] because [1:04:53] as [1:04:53] shown [1:04:53] in [1:04:54] the [1:04:54] proceedings [1:04:54] before [1:04:54] the [1:04:55] committee [1:04:55] on [1:04:55] justice [1:04:55] there [1:04:56] are [1:04:57] billions [1:04:57] of [1:04:57] transactions [1:04:58] involved [1:05:00] in [1:05:01] the [1:05:01] bank [1:05:02] records [1:05:04] of [1:05:05] the [1:05:06] spouses [1:05:06] remember [1:05:11] if [1:05:12] we [1:05:12] go [1:05:12] back [1:05:13] to [1:05:13] the [1:05:13] confirmation [1:05:14] hearing [1:05:14] it [1:05:15] was [1:05:15] actually [1:05:15] AMLA [1:05:16] that [1:05:16] says [1:05:16] that [1:05:16] some [1:05:17] of [1:05:17] the [1:05:17] income [1:05:19] the [1:05:20] deposits [1:05:20] in [1:05:21] the [1:05:21] banks [1:05:21] are [1:05:22] considered [1:05:22] to be [1:05:23] suspicious [1:05:23] transaction [1:05:24] so [1:05:26] babang [1:05:26] tayo [1:05:27] po [1:05:27] natin [1:05:27] ito [1:05:28] sa [1:05:28] mga [1:05:29] dokumentong [1:05:29] may [1:05:29] presenta [1:05:30] po [1:05:30] sa [1:05:31] trial [1:05:32] na [1:05:33] yan [1:05:33] including [1:05:33] also [1:05:34] the [1:05:34] box [1:05:34] that [1:05:35] were [1:05:35] initially [1:05:36] voted [1:05:37] by [1:05:37] the [1:05:37] committee [1:05:37] on [1:05:39] justice [1:05:39] not [1:05:40] to [1:05:40] open [1:05:40] it [1:05:40] so [1:05:41] yun [1:05:42] po [1:05:42] yung [1:05:42] ating [1:05:42] babantayan [1:05:43] doon [1:05:43] mukhang [1:05:45] mukhang [1:05:46] babalik [1:05:46] sinabi [1:05:49] ko [1:05:49] kanina [1:05:49] mukhang [1:05:51] ginagawa [1:05:53] ng lahat [1:05:54] ng paraan [1:05:54] para [1:05:54] hindi [1:05:55] mabuksan [1:05:56] ng [1:05:56] korte [1:05:57] ayong [1:05:58] sa [1:05:59] depensa [1:05:59] ayong [1:06:00] po [1:06:00] sa [1:06:00] pag-object [1:06:02] ng [1:06:02] depensa [1:06:02] sir [1:06:04] last [1:06:04] another [1:06:04] just [1:06:05] to [1:06:05] follow [1:06:06] up [1:06:06] on [1:06:06] that [1:06:06] may [1:06:08] possibility [1:06:08] ba [1:06:08] na [1:06:08] kaya [1:06:09] may [1:06:09] fear [1:06:09] na [1:06:09] open [1:06:10] yung [1:06:10] box [1:06:10] is [1:06:11] because [1:06:11] baka [1:06:11] madali [1:06:12] rin [1:06:12] siya [1:06:12] sa [1:06:12] tax [1:06:13] evasion [1:06:13] hindi [1:06:13] lang [1:06:14] si [1:06:14] VP [1:06:14] pati [1:06:14] yung [1:06:14] asawa [1:06:15] niya [1:06:15] si [1:06:15] man [1:06:15] scarpe [1:06:16] yo [1:06:16] hindi [1:06:19] mabuk [1:06:20] mabuk [1:06:20] nabuk [1:06:20] mabuk [1:06:22] nabuk [1:06:24] under the Articles of Impeachment. Again, what we want is actually to show to the public and to the Senate that these are the evidence [1:06:34] that can actually corroborate the allegations as contained under the Articles of Impeachment. [1:06:39] So we are not actually hitting a particular person. We're actually on the principle of transparency and accountability. [1:06:47] It's just so happened that the Vice President was the one who's facing these charges. [1:06:51] The one that is actually talking here is the Constitution, applying the principle of accountability mechanism under the Constitution, [1:06:58] regardless who is being charged with the allegations. So we are not actually trying to focus on a particular person. [1:07:08] We are trying to drive the allegations that have been presented as contained in the Articles of Impeachment [1:07:16] with the evidence that we can actually provide. So let's see kung ano po yung magiging takbo ng actual trial. [1:07:25] But what we can tell you again is that going back to the proposed witness under the list that we have presented to the Court, [1:07:34] all of the witnesses, all of the witnesses, are the witnesses that are indispensable [1:07:41] to prove that the accusations that the vice-president in the Constitution are right [1:07:51] because it's the testimony and the evidence that we have presented to the Court. [1:07:56] If I could just quickly add to that. I can't blame anyone for having such an observation. [1:08:06] But insofar as the prosecution is concerned, as mentioned by Congressman Zia, [1:08:11] our focus is to use this evidence to prove the Articles of Impeachment, [1:08:16] particularly the charge that the respondent accumulated unexplained wealth, [1:08:23] which is grossly disproportionate to the assets and the net worth that she declared in her silence. [1:08:31] All right. Thank you very much po. [1:08:36] Salamat po, Attorney J. Conzia. [1:08:38] Thank you, Moria. Next is Linesca Panti from GMA Online. [1:08:41] Linesca? [1:08:43] Sir? [1:08:45] Sir? [1:08:46] Sir? [1:08:48] Sir? [1:08:50] Sir? [1:08:51] Sir? [1:08:52] Question po lang po. [1:08:53] Meron po ang sinabing dahilan ng E-Rocs? [1:08:56] Kahit ng I-Rocs? [1:08:58] Or E-Rocs? [1:08:59] I-Rocs? [1:09:00] Meron po pa silang sinabing bismang power? [1:09:05] Meron po pa silang sinabing reason for objecting to it? [1:09:13] Is that the question? [1:09:14] Sorry, can you repeat it? [1:09:15] Medyo mahina po yung reception. [1:09:17] I can quite hear it. [1:09:20] Oh, sir. [1:09:21] Ano po yung, [1:09:24] Ano po yung sinabi nilang dahilan? [1:09:26] So, fa? [1:09:27] Do you have a power box? [1:09:31] So, sabi ko, [1:09:33] what's your name? [1:09:34] Is that the question? [1:09:35] At least, [1:09:36] when it was not like the trouble trial, Mor? [1:09:42] Okay. [1:09:43] Medyo malabo ko, no? [1:09:44] I don't know if it's just on my side. [1:09:46] Pero, [1:09:47] from what I heard, [1:09:48] mukhang ang question is, [1:09:50] meron ba silang reason na binanggit [1:09:52] why they didn't want the box to be marked? [1:09:56] So, ang reason that they stated there [1:09:58] is it's a violation of due process, no? [1:10:01] But this was addressed by the prosecutors, no? [1:10:05] Congresswoman Luistro, [1:10:08] and Congresswoman Luistro, [1:10:10] and Congresswoman Schell, no? [1:10:11] They pointed out, [1:10:12] there's no violation of due process rights here. [1:10:15] Again, no? [1:10:16] Kahapon, [1:10:17] we were not even asking that these documents [1:10:22] be admitted in evidence, no? [1:10:24] Hindi pa namin ito pinapatanggap as ebidensya, no? [1:10:27] Ang gusto lang ho namin gawin, [1:10:29] since part ho ng pretrial [1:10:31] ay marking of evidence by both parties, no? [1:10:35] Pagmamarka pa lang ho, no? [1:10:36] Yun lang ho ang gusto namin gawin. [1:10:38] Let's just mark it. [1:10:39] So even just the box itself, no? [1:10:41] Kahit ipagpapaliban muna ang pagbukas, [1:10:44] kung yan ang magiging desisyon ng Clerk of Court, [1:10:47] kahit yung box muna, [1:10:49] markahan na natin, [1:10:51] even that the objective to it. [1:10:53] Sir, even yung situation sa BI after box, [1:11:04] hindi ba makaka-affect? [1:11:07] Hindi ba makaka-affect pa yun sa impeachment court [1:11:18] yung kay Vice President? [1:11:19] Hindi ba yung kaso nyo? [1:11:22] Or the case will stand with or without the P55? [1:11:27] Okay. Well, first of all, [1:11:29] we don't want to preempt the action [1:11:32] that may be taken by the impeachment court about this. [1:11:35] To be clear, they did not yet deny the motion to open the box. [1:11:41] It just didn't happen yesterday, [1:11:44] but this does not mean that they will not allow its opening. [1:11:50] So we will address that issue once it becomes apparent already, [1:11:57] meaning when they've acted on it. [1:11:59] So we will wait for the impeachment court's action on it. [1:12:02] Thank you, Lineshka. [1:12:15] Asaya Mirapuentes from Abante Billionario. [1:12:19] Hello, Kong. Good morning. Good afternoon, po. [1:12:23] Good afternoon, Asaya. [1:12:25] Apo. Just one question lang, [1:12:26] kung just regards with the reserve witnesses, [1:12:30] dun po sa may article 4, [1:12:32] yung grave threats. [1:12:34] Upon checking here po, [1:12:36] meron pong isa po sa mga reserve nyo po ay psychiatrists. [1:12:39] Does it mean kung medyo questionable po this time, [1:12:45] yung mental state or I mean, [1:12:49] if ever masasabi ba natin na may mental challenge, [1:12:52] si Vice President Sara Duterte, [1:12:54] that's why nabitawan niya po yung mga salita [1:12:57] na sinabi niya po dun sa video. [1:12:59] Jay, you want to go first? [1:13:01] Sir, can you please repeat the question? [1:13:03] I didn't quite yet at least. [1:13:05] I'm sorry. [1:13:07] Regarding sir dun sa may isa sa mga reserve witnesses ng article 4, [1:13:12] upon checking here kasama po ay isang psychiatrist. [1:13:15] Does it mean sir na isa po sa tinitinga natin na ang gulo, [1:13:20] kaya po nasabi ni Vice President Sara Duterte na ipapapatay po niya ang first couple [1:13:26] and even the former House Speaker, [1:13:28] is because merong mental challenge or issue about the mental state of the Vice President? [1:13:34] Again, as I've mentioned a while ago when this same question was asked, [1:13:41] we cannot yet go into the details about the exact testimonies that our witnesses will give. [1:13:50] But what I can say is that this witness will be relevant in establishing the charges. [1:13:57] So particularly here, the charge concerning grave threats. [1:14:01] So it could show, it could establish a lot of things. [1:14:05] Among other things will be the seriousness of the threats. [1:14:08] The fact that when it was made, it was not made in jest. [1:14:14] You could see from the words used, the actuation and everything, [1:14:19] and what was done during and after or even before, [1:14:23] or consistent with the position that the threat was seriously made. [1:14:30] And there was very intention to produce that intended effect, [1:14:37] which is to threaten the recipients of these statements. [1:14:42] Just to add to that explanation, the attorney Jeno, [1:14:45] the psychology psychiatrist would be objective in trying to respond to the question [1:14:52] of either the defense and the prosecution. [1:14:56] We can establish an expert analysis as to the seriousness, [1:15:01] to establish the seriousness. [1:15:05] Nobody can actually be able to prove, to establish seriousness of these threats, [1:15:13] other than, I guess, someone who has the expertise to objectively assess the utterances. [1:15:24] No? [1:15:25] Kung ibang malalagay dyan, alam natin baka maging partisan. [1:15:29] No? [1:15:30] Ito ang magiging possible na kanyang magiging testimony ay doon lang sa sinasabi ni attorney Jeno, [1:15:39] na serious ba itong allegation na ito? [1:15:41] I mean, itong utterances na ito. [1:15:43] So, it's an expert view, an assessment on whether these threats are made with seriousness. [1:15:53] So, I think the expert analysis, someone who is objective and non-partisan, [1:15:58] is the right witness to establish to the court that, yes, indeed, [1:16:07] these allegations and these threats are made with seriousness. [1:16:12] Kung habol ko na rin, if ever I'm just curious, [1:16:16] sabihin ng psychiatrist na merong mental issue or mental challenge, [1:16:23] itong si PP Sara. [1:16:25] Ano pong possible na mangyari doon sa i-result ka ng impeachment? [1:16:29] I'll take this one, Jeno. [1:16:32] I'll take this one. [1:16:33] First, we don't preempt again. [1:16:36] We will not predict what would be the exchanges, [1:16:42] the questions of the House prosecution panel, [1:16:47] and also the cross-examination of the defense [1:16:51] in the event that the psychiatrist would be presented before the court. [1:16:56] So, again, let's go back to the explanation of Attorney J. Tolosa [1:17:02] that part of the presentation of the House prosecution team, [1:17:06] as far as the threat is concerned, [1:17:08] is to establish the seriousness. [1:17:12] Kasi the defense is saying that this is a, [1:17:16] kumbaga parang, [1:17:18] hindi naman ito talagang threat eh. [1:17:20] Yung iba sabi nila, it's a figures of speech. [1:17:23] Narinig natin yan sa kanila as their form of defense. [1:17:27] Ang iba naman sabi nila, [1:17:28] eh hindi naman talaga ito threat kasi conditional threat eh. [1:17:31] So, ibig sabi in the defense is saying that, [1:17:35] uh, these are made in, in, in probably in jest, [1:17:38] or because of yung spur of the moment, et cetera. [1:17:42] So, the only way for the public to know that these threats, [1:17:46] uh, are made with, in seriousness, no? [1:17:49] With clarity and with seriousness, [1:17:51] is, as far as I can, for an expert, for an expert, [1:17:55] to observe and assess, uh, the utterances of threats [1:18:00] against the president, the first lady, [1:18:02] and the former speaker. [1:18:04] Yun lang po, that's the only purpose, uh, for the defense, [1:18:07] to include, for the prosecution panel, [1:18:09] to include an expert on the subject matter [1:18:12] when it comes to the seriousness of the threats [1:18:15] made by the vice president, [1:18:17] against three highest, uh, you know, three, uh, personalities. [1:18:22] All right. Thank you, Kong. Thank you, attorney. [1:18:27] Thank you, Isaiah. [1:18:30] Next is Gidea Bernardo from V8 TV. Gidea? [1:18:34] Hello, po. Good afternoon, po. [1:18:41] Hello, po, Kong, and attorney. [1:18:44] Follow up lang naman po yung akin. [1:18:46] Two points lang po. [1:18:47] One of which is, [1:18:48] can you help us understand, po, in legal terms, [1:18:51] uh, possible po ba maggaroon ng conflict of interest? [1:18:54] Kasi nakita rin po natin si attorney Michael po, [1:18:56] na nandun po siya list of fitnesses, [1:18:59] and he's also part of the defense team. [1:19:04] Uh, hindi naman ho, no? [1:19:05] Ang itatanong naman sa kanya dyan [1:19:07] would be factual matters. [1:19:09] So, and I think he also stated in one of his interviews [1:19:13] that, uh, he doesn't see any problem about that. [1:19:16] Last na lang po, then, uh, [1:19:19] dadagdagan po lang yung Gidea, dadagdagan. [1:19:21] Remember si attorney Michael po, uh, um, [1:19:24] kasama po siya doon sa na-invite you the confirmation hearings. [1:19:28] The confirmation hearings ba, balikan po natin, uh, [1:19:31] ito po yung mga complaints ng Sabalia Cabrera, [1:19:34] and part of the complaints doon sa artikulo is yung primary. [1:19:37] So, kasama po siya doon, uh, na mga possible na mga witnesses [1:19:43] para po doon sa artikulo na yun. [1:19:45] So, alam naman po niya, no? [1:19:47] Uh, from the very start. [1:19:48] Can we ask na lang po an update po dun sa threshold po? [1:19:52] Isn't it advisable po ba na may agreed upon threshold na po tayo [1:19:56] for the, po to po, of conviction and acquittal of VP, [1:20:00] uh, before the trial proceeds po? [1:20:02] Yeah. [1:20:04] Well, uh, just to clarify yung, when you say agreed upon, [1:20:08] this matter cannot be agreed upon by the parties, no? [1:20:12] Um, second, uh, for us in the prosecution, no? [1:20:16] Our focus here is to present a compelling case, no? [1:20:22] Packed by overwhelming evidence. [1:20:24] So that regardless of how it will be interpreted, [1:20:27] yung two-thirds, uh, threshold na yan, [1:20:30] we will be able to secure the two-thirds vote. [1:20:33] Now, um, we will, um, respect the impeachment court's action on this. [1:20:40] We will wait for it, no? [1:20:41] And then, um, when the impeachment court deems it to be appropriate, [1:20:46] be appropriate to address it, then, uh, we will be prepared [1:20:50] to advance our positions on this matter. [1:20:53] That's all for me. [1:20:56] Well, thank you, Paul. [1:20:57] Thank you. [1:21:00] Thank you. [1:21:03] Thank you, Judea. [1:21:04] We will now recognize Willie Delgado from PRTV. [1:21:07] Willie Delgado Jr. [1:21:11] Good afternoon, Kong Sia. [1:21:13] Good afternoon. [1:21:14] Good afternoon, Attorney Jay. [1:21:15] Good afternoon. [1:21:16] Good afternoon, Willie. [1:21:17] So, um, kung hindi po talaga mabubuksan yung BIR box, [1:21:21] patayo pa rin ho ba yung issue ng unexplained wealth? [1:21:25] I understand kasi kinakilangan ng history nung ano eh, [1:21:28] nung takbo nung mga finances ni Vice President Sare. [1:21:34] So, um, the, uh, uh, case of the prosecution with respect to this article is not hinged exclusively [1:21:42] in the contents of the BIR box, you know? [1:21:44] Uh, we have, uh, a lot of other evidences to present, no? [1:21:48] Such as the AMLOC reports, uh, bank documents, but still, no, to see a complete picture, [1:21:56] because this would show the, um, declared income, no, of the respondent, no, and her spouse, no? [1:22:05] Why declared income? [1:22:06] Ito lang dahil, alam, as we know, dito sa ITR, dito ho natin rinireport sa gobyerno, ano ho ang mga lawful income natin, no? [1:22:14] So, it's still very crucial. That's why, uh, we're adamant, no, insisting that, uh, the box be opened, you know? [1:22:22] Uh, and that, uh, this become available to both parties actually, you know? [1:22:27] Since after all, again, both parties have identified, uh, this BIR submissions to be, uh, their, uh, reserved, um, documentary exhibits. [1:22:38] Um, Willie, dadagdaga ko yung sinabi ni, uh, [1:22:42] Okay, no, beyond the appreciation of the court, beyond, uh, the presentation of evidence, [1:22:47] I think it is a matter of right of the people to know, uh, uh, and understand the whole picture. [1:22:55] Uh, karapatan po ng taong bayan na malaman nila, no, without any stone unturned, ang katotohanan at pawang katotohanan namang. [1:23:05] Uh, because that's what the House Prosecution believes. This is the Constitution speaking. This is the workings of the accountability mechanism of the Constitution. [1:23:14] So it is but right and prudent that we allow the people to see the whole picture and appreciate the whole picture. [1:23:21] No, yung financials, uh, standing po ng ating vicepresidente. [1:23:26] Dahil sinasubmit naman po nila ito, uh, regularly, uh, sa, sa BIR. [1:23:32] So beyond, again, beyond legal appreciation, I think it's right, uh, that the people would also know exactly. [1:23:39] And the whole picture, ano ba yung nilalaman ng box na yan, at ano ba yung pupwede niyang ma-explain sa taong bayan, uh, tungkol sa sal-e na din-neclare na asset, uh, din-neclare na liability, at din-neclare na lawful income ng vicepresidente at a kanyang may bahay. [1:23:57] Alright. May, may nakikita ba kayong, uh, malaking kahinaan ng kaso na, against BP, na inaasahan niyong maaaring punteriyahin ng depensa? [1:24:13] Wala. No, no. We believe that the articles of impeachment will be sufficiently established by all of the evidence that we have. [1:24:23] Well, really, very clear naman, eh, the purpose of the, the purpose of the defense is to defend the respondent. [1:24:31] So, we anticipate and we will, we continuously anticipate that any evidence that the House prosecution will provide to the court will be contested by the defense. [1:24:43] But it's a, ang katotohanan, maski ang gaano mo pa yung takpan, ay, uh, on its own, it will stand on its own. Truth will always prevail, no matter the trappings and the lies that you want to cover it. [1:24:57] Yun po ang paninindigan ng House prosecution team. Ito po ay katotohanan at pawang katotohanan lamang na isa sa liwala po namin sa publiko. [1:25:10] Alright. Kaya, Attorney Jay, medyo nabitin tayo nung interview kumakalawa sa ATM, Attorney Jay, eh. Medyo kinapos kasi tayo ng oras. [1:25:17] Um, yung naging tanong ko nun, yung, anong pagkakaiba ng impeachment ngayon versus sa impeachment ni, ni, uh, President Erat before, na pwede yung, ano, presentation ng surprise witness gaya nitong si, ano, sino ba yung, yung bank executive si Clarissa Ocampo? Eh, understand kung wala po yata ganun ngayon. Papano po yun? [1:25:41] Okay. Sige, to clarify ho, again, as a general rule, parties are required to already identify all of their evidence. So, both ho, to documentary and testimonial evidence. [1:25:56] They have to be identified during pre-trial. Yan ho ang general rule diyan. Now, that rule admits certain exemptions, which is, even if the, uh, that evidence or that witness was not identified during pre-trial, [1:26:12] pwede pa rin ho yung payagan na ang pag-present niyan during the trial itself, no? But it has to be justified. So, under the rules, pwede ho yan. [1:26:22] Kung, for example, during pre-trial, that person was not reasonably known or available to the party, no? So, uh, yun ho ang test dyan. [1:26:33] They should not have been reasonably known or available. So, kung naging negligent ka lang, no? But that, uh, document was already available to you, but you were just negligent, that's why you were not able to mark it. [1:26:45] Hindi ho yan papayagan. So, kailangan ma-justify. But, toward you, it's still not proper to call it [1:26:51] as, uh, we don't want to call it a surprise evidence, no? Dahil, as pointed out by Kong Zia a while ago, no? [1:26:58] Hindi naman yan completely, um, surprised, no? Dahil three days, as required under the rules, before, uh, that is presented in court, [1:27:07] you have to give advance notice. So, magkakaroon pa rin naman ho ang chance yung other party na malaman ito and prepare for it [1:27:15] before it's presented in court. [1:27:18] Okay. Um, Kong Zia? [1:27:21] Yes, sir! [1:27:22] Paano, paano, paano, babalansin yung, yung mga legal issues versus sa mga matitinding public opinion, [1:27:31] uh, ng public? Kasi, sa pinaka-latest survey, 19% lang, di ba? [1:27:38] Uh, yung napag-usapan natin, 19% lang na mga Pilipino believe na yung, yung, yung, uh, yung botohan sa Senado, [1:27:52] eh, hindi, mukhang malayo magbase sa, ano, sa evidence-based yung kanina magiging boto. [1:28:00] Well, una-una, itong mga surveys na ito, kaya parati po natin sinasabi, let's proceed with the trial, [1:28:05] let's give clarity to the people, and let's end this process. Kasi naumpisan na po yan. [1:28:09] I think the more na nadidelay po yung proseso, talagang nagkakaroon po ng individual na opinion. [1:28:16] What is important, opinion ng ating taong bayan. What is important is the people is now engaged. [1:28:21] They want to proceed with the trial. They want to see the evidence that would be presented by both sides. [1:28:26] And I think it's not only that they want to do, they want to witness, but it is also their right to see [1:28:33] and open up all these allegations in an actual trial. [1:28:36] So, ang para sa akin, how do we balance it? Let's proceed with the actual trial. [1:28:44] Dahil habang wala pa pong trial, eh, talagang hindi mo may iwasan ang ating taong bayan. [1:28:49] Magkakaroon ng haka-haka. Kaya nga po, in-establish natin itong proseso na ito [1:28:54] para yung haka-haka ay mapunta sa actual na pangyayari. [1:28:58] Alright, one last point. I understand, may kanya-kanya na pong assigned article yung mga house prosecutors. [1:29:07] Ganon din ho ba? May kanya-kanya na rin assignment na ibinigay sa mga private prosecutors, Tony? [1:29:15] Tama ho yan. But it's still, it's a continuing process. So, of course, some adjustments may have to be made [1:29:24] during the trial itself, but that is correct. So, syempre, ongoing ho yung preparation natin. [1:29:32] So, that has to be done para mas organized ang ating pag-prepara at pag-hawak ng kaso. [1:29:39] Okay. Thank you po, Tony Jay. Kong Sia, thank you. [1:29:44] Thank you, sir. Thank you as well. [1:29:46] Thank you, Willie. Okay. Pagbabalik po si Red Mendoza para sa ating last question. [1:29:54] Red Mendoza, para Manila Times. [1:29:56] Hi po, Kong. Sorry. [1:29:58] It's the best for you. [1:30:01] So, sinasabi niyo po, dun sa trial week na po, na you're going to invite the journalists [1:30:07] who were at the press conference of the Vice President nung inata niyo yung mga words na yun. [1:30:13] Now, hindi po ba medyo, ano yun, would it create a red consternation among the media outfits [1:30:22] na iimbitahan yung mga journalists and they're just doing their jobs as reporters? [1:30:28] Are they, ano po ba, will they be, man, will they be, sige na, mandated to attend dun sa, [1:30:36] to be witnesses at the hearing po ba? [1:30:38] Or they be allowed na umayaw sila dun sa, sa hearing po? [1:30:43] Or doon sa trial? [1:30:45] Jay, Jay, attorney Jay, this is an opinion that I think, uh, Red would like to, ano, solicit from us, no? [1:30:52] Let me, let me go. [1:30:53] Okay. All right. [1:30:54] The, the, the, the, the media, if ever there's going to be a, a, a, there's going to be a, ano, um, um, a witness, no? [1:31:04] Na nandoon during the, the press briefing, they will not be tested as to the, ano, as to the, the profession [1:31:12] by which they are actually conducting interviews. [1:31:15] They will be asked, uh, to verify whether that video is doctored or not. [1:31:21] So their presence alone would prove that the, the, the video is, is not doctored, uh, which also confirmed by the report of the NBI. [1:31:33] Okay. [1:31:34] Attorney, may dalalago kayo? [1:31:38] Um, alam nyo, wala akong personal, alam nyan, no? [1:31:40] Uh, nasa batas ang kapangyariyan ng impeachment court na mag-issue ng subpina, no? [1:31:47] At, uh, regardless of personalities, kahit sino hong makatanggap ng subpina, [1:31:52] responsibilidad ho, yan, under the law, na sumunod. [1:31:57] Okay. Okay. Okay. [1:31:58] Yun lang po, yun lang po. [1:31:59] Take yung figure, take it. [1:32:00] And Red, Red, just to, ano, just to give you, ay, ano, para kasi importante yung mga tanong mo para sa akin, eh. [1:32:06] Just to give you, ano, this can be within the realm of possibility, uh, [1:32:11] hindi yung upig sabihin na nandiyan, nakalista yung witness, [1:32:15] ay automatic kayo nang kailangan, cast on stone, dapat matawag siya. [1:32:19] So depending on how the actual trial would go. [1:32:24] Okay. Yun lang po. [1:32:25] Yeah, if you could just add quickly, you know, that is correct. [1:32:28] For example, if the defense, no, would already agree on the authenticity of the videos, [1:32:34] then there may be no more need to present, no, um, other witnesses to prove that. [1:32:40] Okay. Thank you, Pop. [1:32:45] Thank you. Uh, with all your indulgence, we will just allow Lance Meheko for today's last question [1:32:53] from, um, Newswatch Philippines. [1:32:56] Lance? [1:32:56] Hello po. Hello po. Good afternoon, um, kay Attorney J. N. Kongzia. [1:33:00] Very quick lang po kasi kaka, parang just in lang po siya from the Senate. [1:33:04] According to Senate Secretary Ray Bantug, um, the pretrial conference could be reopened [1:33:10] if the court decides to allow the opening of the box containing the tax records of Vice President Duterte [1:33:17] and her spouse. Any reaction lang po from the trial spokespersons? [1:33:21] And just in case, sir, na i-allow po yung pretrial, or magkaroon, i-reopen yung pretrial [1:33:28] before July 6, will this affect the calendar at all, or hindi naman po ito, hindi naman kayo nangangamba? [1:33:35] Uh, well, that would be good if that happens, no, because that's precisely, uh, what we prayed for [1:33:42] in our motion, no, that, uh, it be opened so that we'll be allowed to conduct an inventory in its contents [1:33:48] and mark them accordingly. Now, we don't think this will, um, cause any delay, no? [1:33:54] On our presentation of our first witness is scheduled on July 6 since, um, ano lang to, mabilis lang naman to, [1:34:01] we're just talking about one box, we'll just open it, inventory it, and mark it. So, it could be done [1:34:06] in a few hours. So, we don't see any reason why that would cause any delay. [1:34:14] Thank you, sir. Attorney, um, I mean, Kongzia, would you like to add po, or okay na po kayo? [1:34:20] Well, ang akin lang, position, position naman talaga ng House Prosecution Team is whatever the notice, [1:34:26] the directives of the impeachment for it, we will comply. [1:34:32] Thank you po. [1:34:33] Thank you, Lance. Singin na po natin ang closing statements ng ating guests, Kongzia. [1:34:39] Nauna ko kanina ng opening, I think it's proper, the Attorney Dean would go first. [1:34:45] Yeah, so just a short one, no, again, we'd like to emphasize that we're very glad, no, [1:34:50] that the impeachment process has finally commenced, no, and, uh, gumugulong na ho siya, [1:34:55] at, um, uh, siguraduin na po natin pare-pareho, no, na ito ay hindi maaantala, [1:35:01] at patuloy ho, no, na mangyari na ang inihintay ho, not just by the prosecution, [1:35:08] and I believe the entire country, no, na maglapagan na ng ebidensya, [1:35:12] at, uh, let's see this through to its logical conclusion, [1:35:15] which is, um, mag-decide ang mga, um, presiding judges based on the evidence presented by both parties. [1:35:22] Well, sa amin po, para sa akin, gusto na po natin hikayatin ang ating taong bayan na makilahok at mamanood, [1:35:32] at subaybayan po ang, uh, itong nararating na impeachment trial na to sa June, uh, 6. [1:35:39] Sampung araw na po, sampung araw na lang po ang natitirang araw para makita po ng taong bayan, [1:35:45] na kung ano po yung magpag-uusapan dyan, ay unang-una, ito po yung sinasabi nating pananagutan ayon sa ating saligang batas. [1:35:55] Para po sa kanila ito, it does not need that you agree or you disagree to, uh, the allegations contained under the articles of impeachment. [1:36:03] What is important is this process is enshrined in the constitution specifically to serve the Filipino people. [1:36:10] Ito po ang ating, uh, ito po ang ating, uh, ginagawang, uh, garantisa sa ating taong bayan na ano po ang may papresenta ng prosecution [1:36:20] ay ang katotohanan at pawang katotohanan lamang. [1:36:24] At ang katotohanan, dapat walang expiry, dapat po ay madaliing pag-usapan. [1:36:30] May nag-umpisa na po ang proseso, tatapusin po natin ito, tatapusin po natin ito. [1:36:37] So, again, nagpapasalamat po tayo sa Senado sa matiwasay at maayos na pre-trial conference. [1:36:44] Nagpapasalamat din po tayo sa ating mga partners at mga kaibigan sa media [1:36:50] dahil natutulungan po nila ang Senado para i-para is pakita or i-report ang mga aktual na pangyayari sa pre-trial conference sa publiko. [1:37:02] Tayo po ay nagpapasalamat sa buong sambayan ng Pilipino [1:37:04] dahil pinakita po nila, according to the survey, [1:37:08] nagbusto na po nilang tapusin itong proseso na ito. [1:37:11] So, what we can assure you is that the House Prosecution Team will be there to deliver to you the truth [1:37:16] and nothing but the truth at the finish line. [1:37:21] Maraming salamat po. [1:37:21] Maraming salamat po ulit. [1:37:25] Trial Spokesperson Zia Alon Tojong of Lano del Sur [1:37:28] and Trial Legal Spokesperson Attorney Beneming J. Tolosa Jr. [1:37:34] for joining us this afternoon. [1:37:36] To everyone, maraming salamat po sa mga staff ng PRIB at sa ICTS. [1:37:41] Thank you po. Magandang tanghali po sa inyo lahat. [1:37:45] Thank you po. [1:37:47] Thank you so much. [1:37:48] God bless po. [1:37:49] God bless. [1:37:49] Thank you, everyone. [1:37:51] Salamat po po. [1:37:53] Thank you po. [1:37:55] Salamat po.

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