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House prosecution team holds press briefing on Day 38 of impeachment trial — October 12, 2026

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"financial transactions. Pinilit mang ikutan ang batas, pero ang totoo, kusang lumabas. Matagal ko na pong sinasabi na hindi confidential ang katotohanan. Ang kabuhang hindi yan tineklara ay yung nakabold na numerong 817 milyon. Isang forensic expert at respetatong financial analyst, Atty. Alexander"

[0:59] financial transactions. [1:01] Pinilit mang ikutan ang batas, [1:03] pero ang totoo, kusang [1:05] lumabas. Matagal ko na pong [1:07] sinasabi na hindi confidential [1:09] ang katotohanan. [1:10] Ang kabuhang hindi yan tineklara ay yung [1:12] nakabold na numerong 817 [1:15] milyon. [1:16] Isang forensic expert at [1:19] respetatong financial analyst, [1:21] Atty. Alexander Cabrera. [1:23] Sinuri ang mga dokumento, [1:25] pinagtapat ang mga datos, [1:26] inilabas ang totoo. [1:28] Ito po ay summation po [1:31] ng ending balances po sa iba't-ibang [1:34] banko na [1:35] pag-aari po ni B.P. Sarah, [1:37] na kanyang asawa. [1:41] At kinumpir lamang po [1:43] namin yung ending balances [1:44] po ng banko, galing po sa bank account, [1:48] sa kanila pong nakadeclare [1:49] na cash. Taon-taon [1:51] ito ang mga halagang inilatag ng [1:53] witness. 190.6 [1:55] milyon pesos noong 2022, [1:58] 167.3 [2:00] milyon pesos noong 2023, [2:02] 264.2 [2:04] milyon pesos noong 2024, [2:06] at [2:06] 195.7 [2:08] milyon pesos noong 2025. [2:11] Kinumpirma rin niya [2:12] na sa kanyang metod, [2:13] hindi niya binilang ng dalawang [2:15] beses ang parehong [2:16] asset. [2:17] At yung tanong na ating [2:18] gagalanggalang ng [2:19] Senate President, [2:20] sa 2025, [2:21] ang kabuhang hindi niya [2:22] tineklara ay yung [2:22] nakabold na [2:24] numerong [2:24] 817 [2:25] milyon. [2:26] Tama po. [2:27] Sunod-sunod na inilahad ng [2:28] witness ang summary [2:29] ng mga undeclared [2:30] assets ng B.C. [2:32] tulad ng bank account [2:33] na nakapangalan mismo [2:34] kay VP Sara Duterte [2:36] at maging [2:37] ang asawa nito. [2:38] Ang table 2 po [2:39] ay nagre-refer po [2:40] sa mga bank accounts po [2:41] na nasa pangalan po [2:42] ng spouse po [2:43] ni VP Sara. [2:44] Maging ang joint accounts [2:45] na silip din. [2:47] Maging bank records [2:48] na nakaugnay sa asawa [2:49] ng D.C., [2:50] lumabas din. [2:52] Isa, [2:52] sa pinakamalaking bahagi [2:54] ng report ay [2:54] ang mga bank accounts. [2:56] Pinagsama ni Cabrera [2:57] ang ending balances [2:58] mula sa iba't ibang [2:59] account ni Sara Duterte [3:00] at ni Manz Carpio [3:01] at inihambing ang mga ito [3:03] sa cash declaration [3:05] sa Salen. [3:06] Kasama rin sa kanyang [3:07] pagsusuri ang mga [3:08] insurance policy. [3:10] Ayon kay Cabrera, [3:11] may humigit kumulang [3:12] 17 policies. [3:14] na hindi niya nakita [3:15] sa mga Salen [3:16] at sinuri niya. [3:17] Kabilang dito, [3:19] ang FWD policy [3:20] na binayari ni Carpio [3:21] ng P10.6M [3:23] sa isang bagsahan [3:25] noong May 25, 2024. [3:28] Ipinaliwanag din ni Cabrera [3:29] na hindi lahat ng deposito [3:30] ay itinuri niyang income. [3:33] May mahalagang ibinawas niya [3:34] kabilang ang loan proceeds, [3:37] rolled overtime deposit, [3:38] investment proceeds [3:39] at transfers [3:40] sa pagitan ng sariling account. [3:42] Damay rin, [3:43] pa di real properties. [3:45] Maging ang mga negosyong [3:46] nabanggit, [3:47] hindi pinalusok [3:48] ng prosekusyon. [3:49] Why did BP Sara [3:51] include Gencorp [3:52] in her Salen? [3:53] Honorable Jochno, [3:54] the reason why [3:54] I think [3:56] BP Sara included [3:58] Gencorp [3:59] in her Salen [4:00] is [4:00] napaka [4:01] halaga po kasi [4:03] ng Gencorp. [4:04] Malaki po [4:05] ang value [4:06] ng Gencorp. [4:06] Bakit niyo sinasabing [4:08] malaki ang value [4:09] ng Gencorp? [4:10] Kasi po sa loob po [4:11] ng Gencorp, [4:12] meron pong limang [4:12] Jollibee branches pa. [4:14] Ayon sa witness, [4:16] aabot sa halagang [4:16] P35 to P50 million [4:18] ang halaga ng franchise [4:20] ng nasabing [4:21] fast food chain. [4:22] Kunit, [4:23] mukhang hindi [4:24] nagtutugbang halagang ito [4:25] kung ang kapital [4:26] ng Gencorp [4:27] ang pag-uusapan. [4:29] Subalit ang kapital [4:30] lang po ng Gencorp [4:31] ay 1,250,000. [4:34] Ganito rin ang kaso [4:35] sa ibang kumpanya [4:36] na nakakabit [4:37] sa bisaya at asawa nito. [4:39] Tulad ng Metro City [4:40] Chao Foods [4:41] at maging [4:41] ang Cali 88 Foods [4:43] Corporation. [4:44] Timbago sa batas [4:45] ang nasasakdal. [4:47] Kaya naman, [4:48] katakataka [4:49] kung bakit nila [4:50] hindi nito alam [4:51] ang mga paglabag [4:52] sa salingang batas [4:53] kaugnay [4:54] ng sinumpaan [4:55] itong tungkulin. [4:56] Si BP Sara [4:57] ay isang [4:58] mapanuring [4:59] abogado. [5:01] Ang kanyang kabyak [5:02] si Attorney [5:02] Manscarpio [5:04] ay isang [5:05] tanyag [5:05] na abogado. [5:07] Bakit kahit [5:07] isa man lang [5:08] sa kanila [5:09] hindi sa ulado [5:11] ang Article 7 [5:12] Section 13 [5:14] ng ating [5:15] Konstitusyon? [5:16] Strike 2 na po ito [5:17] Mr. President [5:18] Officer. [5:19] Maybe, [5:20] just maybe, [5:21] they intentionally [5:22] ignored [5:23] the said [5:24] law thinking [5:25] that they are [5:26] exception to the rule [5:27] because [5:29] for them [5:30] what are they [5:31] in power for? [5:33] Therefore, [5:33] they should [5:33] be [5:34] untouchable. [5:36] Alright, [5:42] salamat po, [5:43] pero we will [5:43] pause for a while [5:44] para po lang po [5:45] mabigyan ng pagkakataon [5:46] na makapagsettle down [5:47] ng ating mga guests [5:48] for today. [6:32] Udi po, [6:33] isang magandang tanghali [6:34] sa ating lahat. [6:34] Nung gabalik po tayo [6:35] para sa ating [6:36] talakayan [6:37] ngayong tanghali [6:38] na ito. [6:39] Makakapiling po natin, [6:40] walang iba [6:40] kundi ang [6:41] advisor [6:42] ng House [6:42] Impeachment Team, [6:43] si [6:44] former Congressman [6:45] Ace Barbers. [6:47] Ang isa sa ating [6:48] mga prosecutors, [6:49] si Representative [6:50] Joel Chuan [6:51] ng 3rd District [6:52] ng Manila [6:52] at ang ating [6:53] Council for the [6:54] Prosecution [6:55] and Spokesperson [6:56] Attorney [6:57] Benjamin J. [6:58] Tulose Jr. [6:59] Baka may gusto po bang [7:03] paunang pananalita [7:04] ang ating mga [7:05] miembro ng panel [7:07] o diretsyon na tayo [7:10] sa ating mga katanungan. [7:11] Kung gano'n, [7:12] i-open na po natin [7:13] ang floor [7:14] para sa mga questions. [7:15] Go ahead. [7:18] Morning po ko [7:19] ang Sen. Atty. [7:20] Balikan lang po natin [7:21] yung mga statements [7:22] during the weekend [7:23] but before that, [7:24] can you give us [7:24] a brief assessment? [7:26] Doon po siya [7:26] naging cross-examination [7:27] ni Atty. [7:28] This time, [7:29] compared to the last [7:30] cross-examination, [7:31] may direksyon po ba [7:32] tayong nakikita. [7:35] Okay, [7:35] ako muna. [7:37] Isa lang, [7:38] sa tingin ko, [7:39] very consistent naman [7:40] yung mga lawyers [7:42] sa defense panel. [7:44] Consistent sila sa [7:45] hindi nila nagiba [7:47] yung mga witnesses [7:49] na ating pinisinta. [7:51] So, [7:51] in fairness to them, [7:52] they're very consistent. [7:57] As mentioned po kanina, [7:58] may mga statements po [7:59] over the weekend [8:00] in relation to impeachment. [8:02] One of which is [8:03] President Ferdinand [8:04] Bongbong Marcos Jr. [8:05] We know him [8:06] that he usually [8:07] does not express [8:08] his opinion [8:09] to the impeachment [8:10] matters. [8:10] But, [8:11] one statement po [8:12] from him, [8:13] he mentioned that [8:14] threat at the highest [8:16] level, [8:17] kung i-koconsidera niya, [8:18] kung totoo po, [8:19] itong Chinese remittances [8:20] na natanggap daw po [8:21] ng KAL88. [8:22] The President himself [8:23] stating this, [8:24] what do you think [8:26] does this state [8:27] to the case [8:28] of the prosecution? [8:29] I think si Kong Barbers [8:33] po ulit ang makakasagot. [8:35] So, ano, [8:36] hindi, [8:37] talagang [8:37] very alarming kasi [8:39] dahil merong [8:40] national security [8:42] implications yan. [8:43] Kaya, [8:44] kung ito'y mapapatunayan [8:46] at merong [8:46] mabigat na [8:47] ebidensyang [8:48] magpapatunay [8:49] na talagang [8:49] may tinanggap [8:51] na pera [8:52] na ganung [8:53] kalaking halaga [8:54] pumasok [8:55] sa isang kumpanya [8:56] na posibleng [8:59] ginamit [9:02] para pagpondo [9:03] sa political [9:05] activities [9:06] ng ating [9:06] pangalawang [9:07] Pangulo, [9:08] kung ito'y [9:09] mapapatunayan [9:10] sa isang [9:10] malalimang [9:12] investigasyon, [9:12] therefore, [9:14] napaka-alarming [9:16] at nakakatakot [9:17] ito. [9:18] At ito [9:19] ay may serious [9:20] national security [9:21] implication. [9:24] Well, [9:25] Wiggy, [9:25] if [9:26] these [9:27] allegations [9:28] are found [9:29] to be [9:29] true [9:30] and accurate [9:30] by the [9:31] senator judges, [9:32] it may have [9:33] national security [9:34] implications [9:35] as mentioned [9:35] by Kong [9:36] Ace. [9:37] And again, [9:38] insofar as [9:39] these impeachment [9:39] proceedings [9:40] are concerned, [9:41] ang pinag-uusapan [9:42] natin dito [9:43] at the end of [9:43] the day, [9:44] tinutukoy natin [9:45] is, [9:45] is the vice [9:46] president [9:47] still fit [9:48] to continue [9:48] to hold [9:49] that position, [9:50] a second [9:51] highest official [9:51] of the land? [9:52] And lagi, [9:53] mabalik tayo [9:54] dun sa question, [9:55] no? [9:57] Was there [9:58] culpable [10:00] violation [10:01] of the [10:01] constitution, [10:02] did she [10:02] betray [10:03] the [10:03] public [10:03] trust? [10:04] So, [10:05] in looking [10:06] into this [10:07] issue, [10:07] if she, [10:09] in fact, [10:09] received funds [10:10] from [10:11] foreign [10:13] government, [10:14] no? [10:14] Which [10:14] has taken [10:16] aggressive [10:16] actions [10:17] against [10:17] our [10:17] country, [10:19] certainly, [10:22] this [10:22] constitutional [10:22] provisions [10:23] will come [10:24] into play [10:24] and they'll [10:24] be considered [10:25] by the [10:26] senator [10:27] judges [10:27] if they [10:27] were, [10:28] in fact, [10:29] violated. [10:29] Again, [10:30] we've already [10:31] stated before, [10:33] the vice [10:35] president is [10:35] absolutely [10:36] prohibited [10:37] from receiving [10:38] gifts or any [10:41] compensation [10:42] from any [10:43] foreign [10:43] government. [10:44] So, [10:44] I'm sure [10:45] that's a matter [10:46] that they could [10:47] look into. [10:47] And, [10:48] you know, [10:49] ultimately, [10:50] I'm sure [10:52] they'll [10:52] weigh in [10:53] on that [10:53] issue. [10:54] Seryoso ba [10:55] itong [10:56] paglabag, [10:59] hindi lang [10:59] sa [11:00] constitution, [11:00] but [11:00] isa tiwala [11:01] ng bayan, [11:02] kung [11:02] tumanggap [11:03] talaga siya [11:03] ng [11:03] ganitong [11:04] pera [11:04] from [11:05] another [11:05] country, [11:06] which [11:06] has [11:07] taken [11:07] aggressive [11:07] actions [11:08] against [11:08] us. [11:08] Okay, [11:09] last na lang po, [11:10] sa pagbubukas po [11:11] nung day [11:12] 38 ng impeachment [11:13] trial, [11:13] may press [11:14] conference din po [11:15] si [11:15] Vice [11:16] President [11:16] Sarah [11:16] since it's [11:17] the 91st [11:17] anniversary [11:18] daw po [11:18] ng OVP. [11:19] And, [11:20] she [11:20] said po [11:22] na may [11:22] lumapit [11:22] daw po [11:23] sa [11:23] kanya [11:23] at [11:23] kinukumpara [11:24] daw po [11:24] siya [11:25] kay [11:25] former [11:25] Vice [11:26] President [11:26] Judge [11:26] Mer [11:26] Binay [11:27] that [11:28] during [11:28] that [11:28] time, [11:29] inuulan [11:30] daw po [11:31] ng [11:31] paninira [11:31] sa [11:32] kanya. [11:32] Ang [11:32] sagot [11:32] po [11:33] niya, [11:34] alam [11:34] niyo, [11:34] wala [11:35] si [11:36] Binay [11:36] sa akin [11:36] dahil [11:37] hindi [11:37] siya [11:37] umabot [11:38] sa [11:38] impeachment [11:38] not [11:39] once [11:40] but [11:40] twice. [11:41] How [11:41] do [11:41] you [11:41] read [11:41] this [11:42] behavior [11:43] of [11:43] VP [11:43] Sarah [11:44] now [11:44] that [11:45] she's [11:45] on [11:45] trial? [11:54] Ako [11:54] personally [11:55] ang [11:55] opinion [11:56] ko [11:56] dyan [11:56] ay [11:57] itong [11:59] nangyayaring [12:00] impeachment [12:01] proceedings [12:01] ngayon [12:02] ay [12:03] hindi [12:04] ito [12:05] gaya [12:05] ng [12:06] naiisip [12:07] ng [12:07] iba [12:07] na [12:08] ito [12:08] ay [12:08] isang [12:09] political [12:10] persecution [12:11] against [12:12] the [12:12] Vice [12:12] President. [12:13] Definitely [12:13] not. [12:14] Why? [12:15] Because [12:15] nakita [12:16] naman [12:16] ninyo [12:16] at [12:16] nakita [12:17] ng [12:17] ating [12:17] mga [12:17] kababayan [12:18] ang [12:19] mga [12:19] ebidensya [12:20] ating [12:20] inilatag [12:21] ang mga [12:22] testimonya [12:22] mula [12:23] sa mga [12:23] credible [12:24] na mga [12:24] witnesses [12:24] gaya [12:25] nga [12:25] nga [12:25] sinabi ko [12:26] kanina [12:26] ay [12:27] hindi [12:27] nila [12:28] na [12:28] impeach [12:29] yung [12:29] mga [12:30] witnesses [12:31] na [12:31] impirisinta [12:32] ng ating [12:32] prosecution [12:33] panel. [12:34] So [12:34] again, [12:35] ang [12:36] nagsasalita [12:36] dito [12:37] ang [12:37] ebidensya [12:38] ang [12:38] nagsasalita [12:39] dito [12:39] yung [12:40] mga [12:40] dokumento [12:41] itong [12:41] mga [12:41] dokumentong [12:42] ito [12:42] ay [12:43] galing [12:43] mismo [12:44] sa [12:44] mga [12:44] reputable [12:45] institutions [12:46] such [12:46] as [12:46] banks [12:47] at [12:48] mga [12:48] government [12:48] agencies [12:49] na [12:49] hindi [12:50] matatawaran [12:51] ang [12:51] kanilang [12:53] credibilidad [12:54] because [12:54] the [12:55] documents [12:55] will [12:56] speak [12:56] for [12:56] itself. [12:57] So [12:58] yun ang [12:58] aking [12:58] pananaw [12:59] dyan. [12:59] I [13:03] think [13:03] in [13:03] answering [13:03] that [13:04] I [13:04] will [13:04] quote [13:04] the [13:05] statement [13:05] given [13:06] last [13:07] over [13:07] the [13:07] weekend [13:08] by [13:08] one [13:08] of [13:08] the [13:09] senator [13:09] judges. [13:11] It [13:11] was [13:11] stated [13:12] by [13:13] Senator [13:14] Ping [13:14] Lacson. [13:15] Let [13:16] me [13:16] read it [13:16] to be [13:17] accurate. [13:18] Without [13:18] intending [13:19] to [13:19] prejudge [13:19] the [13:20] outcome [13:20] and [13:20] subject [13:21] to [13:21] any [13:21] convincing [13:21] rebuttal, [13:22] the [13:22] defense [13:23] may [13:23] present [13:23] during [13:24] the [13:24] cross [13:24] examination [13:24] of [13:25] prosecution [13:25] expert [13:26] witness [13:26] attorney [13:27] Alexander [13:27] Cabrera. [13:28] Congress [13:28] shall [13:29] joke [13:29] not [13:29] to [13:30] have [13:30] tied [13:30] up [13:30] the [13:30] issues [13:31] under [13:31] article [13:31] 2 [13:32] with [13:32] remarkable [13:32] clarity [13:33] precision [13:33] and [13:34] coherence. [13:34] So [13:34] in [13:35] other [13:35] words, [13:36] we're [13:36] here [13:36] to [13:37] point [13:37] that [13:37] this [13:39] serious [13:40] allegations [13:41] and [13:42] evidence [13:42] that [13:43] we've [13:43] seen [13:43] so [13:43] far [13:43] cannot [13:44] be [13:44] easily [13:45] dismissed [13:45] by [13:46] saying [13:46] that [13:46] these [13:47] are [13:47] just [13:47] a [13:48] product [13:49] of [13:49] political [13:50] persecution [13:51] or [13:51] whatever [13:52] other [13:52] motives. [13:53] So [13:53] as [13:54] mentioned [13:54] the [13:54] important [13:55] here [13:56] is [13:56] to [13:57] give [13:57] them [13:57] to [13:58] give [13:58] a [13:59] public [14:00] and [14:01] public [14:03] and [14:04] apparently [14:07] members [14:08] of the [14:08] impeachment [14:09] court [14:09] also [14:10] because [14:10] there are [14:13] serious [14:14] questions [14:15] before the [14:15] court [14:16] based on [14:17] not just [14:18] allegations [14:18] of the [14:18] prosecution [14:19] based on [14:19] official [14:20] records [14:20] government [14:21] records [14:21] bank [14:22] records [14:22] which [14:23] shows [14:23] financial [14:25] picture [14:26] of the [14:27] vice [14:28] president [14:28] so [14:28] you should [14:29] have [14:29] to [14:30] with [14:30] credible [14:32] evidence [14:32] from [14:33] the [14:33] other [14:33] side [14:33] of [14:36] the [14:37] court [14:39] as we [14:39] listened [14:41] to [14:41] the [14:42] cross [14:42] defense [14:44] sabi [14:44] ko [14:44] nga [14:44] consistent [14:45] sila [14:45] sa [14:46] hindi [14:46] pag [14:46] giba [14:47] ng [14:48] testimony [14:49] ng [14:50] witnesses [14:50] kumbaga [14:51] parang [14:52] habang [14:54] pinakikinggan [14:55] natin [14:55] yung [14:55] kanilang [14:56] pagtatanong [14:56] nanguhula [14:57] nga kami [14:58] kung saan [14:58] papunta [14:58] para bang [14:59] tinotorture [15:01] tayo [15:01] dito [15:01] para [15:02] pakinggan [15:03] yung [15:03] mga [15:03] ganong [15:04] klaseng [15:04] tanong [15:05] again [15:05] they [15:06] were [15:06] not [15:06] directly [15:08] asking [15:08] questions [15:09] pertaining [15:10] to [15:11] the [15:11] findings [15:12] kung [15:14] gano [15:15] kabigat [15:16] itong [15:16] mga [15:16] findings [15:17] na [15:17] isinama [15:18] dito [15:19] sa report [15:19] so [15:19] again [15:20] I feel [15:21] that [15:21] this [15:21] is [15:21] like [15:22] parang [15:24] pinapahaba [15:25] na parang [15:26] natutorture [15:26] tayo [15:27] para makinig [15:28] dun sa mga [15:28] questions [15:29] that [15:29] sometimes [15:30] are [15:31] irrelevant [15:32] to me [15:33] Well [15:37] unang-una [15:38] tingnan muna [15:38] natin [15:39] yung [15:39] konteksto [15:40] paano [15:41] na [15:41] paano [15:42] niya [15:42] sasabihin [15:43] na [15:43] kung paano [15:45] naging [15:45] dalawang [15:46] beses [15:46] siyang [15:46] in-impeach [15:47] unang-una [15:48] kasi [15:49] yung [15:49] kanyang [15:50] impeachment [15:51] ay finahil [15:52] noong [15:52] 19th [15:53] Congress [15:53] at [15:54] ito [15:54] rin [15:54] naman [15:55] ay [15:55] base [15:56] sa [15:57] report [15:58] ng [15:59] Commission [16:00] on Audit [16:01] kung saan [16:02] may mga [16:03] notice of [16:04] disallowance [16:05] na naganap [16:06] sa kanyang [16:06] mga [16:07] confidential [16:08] fund [16:08] at [16:09] ito [16:09] ay [16:09] hindi [16:09] naman [16:10] nila [16:10] maipaliwanag [16:11] Pangalawa [16:12] kung maaalala [16:13] ninyo [16:13] nangyari [16:14] rin [16:14] ito [16:15] noong [16:15] 19th [16:15] Congress [16:16] kung saan [16:17] siya [16:17] ay nagbanta [16:18] sa ating [16:19] Pangulo [16:20] sa ating [16:21] First Lady [16:22] sa former [16:22] Speaker [16:23] na [16:24] nag-cause [16:27] ng grave [16:28] threat [16:28] pero [16:29] bagamat [16:30] ganun [16:31] nangyari [16:31] ito'y [16:32] na-file [16:32] sa [16:33] Senado [16:35] pero [16:36] nagkaroon [16:36] ng ruling [16:37] ang [16:37] Korte [16:37] Suprema [16:38] hindi [16:39] naman [16:39] base [16:39] sa [16:40] merito [16:40] ang [16:41] naging ruling [16:42] ng [16:42] Korte [16:42] Suprema [16:43] ay base [16:43] sa [16:44] technicality [16:45] yung [16:46] sinasabi [16:46] po [16:46] nating [16:47] one year [16:47] barul [16:48] so [16:49] ito [16:49] naman [16:49] pong [16:50] pangalawang [16:51] hindi po [16:51] ibig sabihin [16:52] na [16:53] porque [16:53] dito [16:54] ay [16:54] na-dismiss [16:55] ng [16:56] Korte [16:56] Suprema [16:57] ay ibig [16:57] sabihin [16:58] hindi na [16:58] siya [16:58] dapat [16:59] panagutin [17:00] sa mga [17:01] nagawa [17:02] niya [17:02] nung [17:03] nakaraang [17:05] ilang [17:05] taon [17:05] kaya [17:06] ito [17:06] naman [17:07] ay [17:07] ang [17:08] pinagbabasihan [17:09] na natin [17:09] ngayon [17:10] ay yung [17:10] mismong [17:11] substansya [17:11] o yung [17:12] substance [17:12] ng [17:13] impeachment [17:14] at [17:14] hindi [17:15] na [17:15] base [17:16] sa [17:16] technicality [17:17] so [17:17] maliwanag [17:17] po [17:17] ang [17:18] ating [17:18] saligang [17:18] batas [17:19] public [17:20] office [17:21] is a [17:21] public [17:21] trust [17:22] so [17:22] hindi [17:22] po [17:23] porque [17:23] siya [17:24] ay [17:24] vice [17:25] presidente [17:25] ibig [17:26] sabihin [17:27] po [17:27] niyan [17:27] immune [17:29] na [17:29] siya [17:30] sa [17:30] lahat [17:31] ng [17:31] kanilang [17:31] gagawin [17:32] Alright [17:34] Thank you [17:35] Let's hear [17:36] now from [17:37] Gab [17:37] Sirs [17:40] meron [17:42] po lumabas [17:42] na Pulse [17:43] Asia [17:43] survey [17:44] kanina [17:44] kanina [17:45] lang [17:45] Doon [17:47] sa Pulse [17:47] Asia [17:48] survey [17:48] it was [17:49] taken [17:49] yung [17:50] survey [17:50] the [17:51] questions [17:51] were [17:51] fielded [17:52] during [17:53] from [17:54] September [17:55] 17 [17:55] to [17:56] 24 [17:56] kasagsagan [17:57] po [17:57] ng [17:57] trial [17:58] tapos [17:59] may [17:59] lima [17:59] pong [17:59] scenario [18:00] na [18:00] lumabas [18:01] doon [18:01] sa [18:01] scenarios [18:02] parang [18:04] nagtry [18:05] sila ng iba [18:06] ibang [18:06] combination [18:07] of [18:07] presidential [18:07] candidates [18:08] set [18:10] A [18:10] ang [18:11] naglaban [18:12] laban [18:12] daw [18:12] Sara [18:13] Duterte [18:13] Lenny [18:14] Robredo [18:14] Rafi [18:15] Tulfo [18:15] ang [18:16] nanalo [18:16] Sara [18:17] Duterte [18:17] 52 [18:18] closest [18:18] was [18:18] Lenny [18:19] Robredo [18:19] at [18:19] 30 [18:20] set [18:21] B [18:21] Sara [18:21] Duterte [18:22] Erwin [18:22] Tulfo [18:23] Risa [18:23] Honte [18:23] Veros [18:24] Sara [18:24] Duterte [18:25] pa rin [18:25] ang [18:25] panalo [18:26] 57 [18:27] set [18:28] C [18:28] Sara [18:29] Duterte [18:29] Erwin [18:30] Tulfo [18:30] Obama [18:31] Quino [18:31] 57% [18:33] ulit [18:33] ng votes [18:33] kay [18:34] Sara [18:34] Duterte [18:34] set [18:35] D [18:35] Ito [18:36] So far [18:37] D [18:37] So far [18:38] D [18:38] 1 [18:39] 1 [18:39] 1 [18:39] Sara [18:40] Duterte [18:41] vs [18:41] Lenny [18:41] Robredo [18:42] 54 [18:43] against [18:44] 40 [18:44] and [18:45] Sara [18:46] Duterte [18:46] against [18:46] Risa [18:47] Honte [18:47] 60 [18:48] to [18:48] 23 [18:49] Sir [18:50] Tanong [18:51] lang [18:52] Despite [18:53] yung [18:54] survey [18:54] was [18:55] taken [18:55] during [18:56] the [18:56] height [18:56] of [18:56] the [18:56] impeachment [18:57] trial [18:57] it [18:57] seems [18:58] that [18:58] the [18:58] vice [18:58] president [18:59] still [18:59] enjoys [18:59] high [19:00] support [19:01] from [19:01] the [19:01] people [19:02] Do you [19:03] think [19:03] the [19:04] impeachment [19:05] trial [19:05] is not [19:05] making [19:06] an [19:06] impact [19:07] or [19:07] it's [19:08] not [19:08] penetrating [19:09] the [19:10] day-to-day [19:11] discussions [19:12] of the [19:12] people [19:13] Well [19:19] unang-una [19:19] dapat [19:20] alamin [19:21] natin [19:21] saan [19:22] kinandak [19:22] yung [19:23] survey [19:23] dahil [19:24] pag [19:25] ito [19:25] yung [19:25] inumission [19:26] ng [19:26] well [19:27] whether [19:28] malamang [19:29] alay nila [19:29] eh [19:30] unang-una [19:31] nagbibigay yan [19:32] ng mga lugar [19:32] kung saan [19:33] ikakandak [19:34] yung survey [19:34] so baka [19:35] mamaya [19:35] yung mga [19:36] areas [19:37] kung saan [19:38] ito [19:38] kinandak [19:38] eh [19:39] dun sa [19:39] alam nila [19:39] na [19:40] malalaka [19:40] sila [19:42] pangalawa [19:42] napaka [19:43] aga pa [19:46] para [19:46] sabihin [19:47] natin [19:47] na yan [19:48] ay yung [19:48] magiging [19:49] outcome [19:49] dahil [19:50] based [19:50] sa mga [19:51] experience [19:51] natin [19:52] sa [19:52] politika [19:52] since [19:53] time [19:54] immemorial [19:54] lahat [19:55] ang [19:55] nanguna [19:55] sa [19:55] survey [19:56] pagdating [19:57] sa [19:57] dulo [19:58] ay [19:58] hindi [19:59] naman [19:59] ganun [20:00] na [20:00] nakikita [20:00] nating [20:01] resulta [20:02] except [20:03] for one [20:03] for [20:04] former [20:04] president [20:05] josep [20:06] estrada [20:06] pangatlo [20:09] hindi [20:09] natin [20:10] sigurado [20:10] kung yung [20:11] mga [20:11] nakalagay [20:12] doon [20:12] ay puro [20:12] kandidato [20:13] for [20:13] president [20:14] dahil [20:15] to begin [20:15] with [20:16] si [20:16] vice [20:16] president [20:17] ay [20:17] naharap [20:18] ngayon [20:18] sa [20:19] impeachment [20:19] what [20:20] if [20:20] siya [20:20] ay [20:20] na [20:22] convict [20:23] so [20:23] hindi [20:23] na [20:24] siya [20:24] qualified [20:24] pangalawa [20:25] si [20:26] VP [20:26] Lenny [20:26] ay [20:26] consistent [20:27] sa [20:27] kanyang [20:27] sinasabi [20:28] na [20:29] hindi [20:29] siya [20:29] tatakbo [20:30] so [20:31] medyo [20:32] at doon [20:33] sa mga [20:33] ibang [20:33] mga [20:33] nandiyan [20:34] dyan [20:34] ay puro [20:34] mga [20:35] hindi [20:35] naman [20:35] nagde-deklara [20:36] pa [20:36] so [20:37] as we [20:38] speak [20:39] parang [20:39] hindi [20:39] masyado [20:40] pang [20:40] premature [20:41] so [20:41] hindi [20:41] pa [20:42] natin [20:42] alam [20:42] kung [20:42] yan [20:43] ay [20:43] ginagawa [20:43] bilang [20:44] mind [20:45] conditioning [20:45] sa mga [20:46] tao [20:47] o [20:47] pwede [20:48] para [20:48] ipakita [20:49] sa mga [20:49] senator [20:50] judges [20:50] na [20:51] the [20:52] vice [20:52] president [20:52] enjoys [20:53] still [20:54] a [20:55] commanding [20:55] lead [20:56] at [20:56] lalong [20:57] lalong [20:57] sa mga [20:57] reeleksyonista [21:01] kayo [21:01] sa inyong [21:02] magiging [21:02] boto [21:03] so [21:03] hindi [21:04] natin [21:04] alam [21:04] kung [21:05] ano [21:05] ang [21:05] purpose [21:05] ng [21:06] survey [21:06] na yan [21:07] gaya [21:11] ng [21:12] observation [21:12] din [21:13] ni [21:13] congressman [21:14] chua [21:15] tungkol [21:15] dito [21:15] sa [21:15] resultang [21:16] ito [21:16] maraming [21:17] tanong [21:18] number [21:18] one [21:18] bukod [21:19] dun [21:19] kung saan [21:20] ba [21:20] kinondak [21:20] yung [21:20] survey [21:21] baka [21:21] maaaring [21:22] nasa [21:23] teritoryo [21:25] na [21:25] masasabing [21:26] pabor [21:27] sa kanila [21:28] ang [21:28] mayoria [21:29] next [21:30] is [21:31] ano [21:31] ba [21:31] yung [21:31] tanong [21:32] diba [21:32] ang [21:33] tanong [21:33] maliwanag [21:34] ito bang [21:35] mga itong [21:36] personalidad [21:36] na ito [21:37] ay tatakbong [21:38] presidente [21:39] sino sa inyo [21:40] ang iboboto [21:40] nila [21:41] kasi [21:41] sometimes [21:42] yung [21:42] prompting [21:43] of the [21:43] question [21:44] will [21:44] result [21:45] to a [21:46] will [21:46] the results [21:47] will [21:47] vary [21:47] hindi [21:48] naman [21:48] siya [21:49] halimbawa [21:50] itong [21:51] nga [21:51] natanong [21:52] sa [21:53] mga [21:53] nagdeklara [21:54] kunyari [21:54] na [21:54] natatakbo [21:55] isa pala [21:56] nga [21:56] nagdeklara [21:57] ang [21:57] tatakbo [21:57] yung [21:58] mga [21:58] hypothetical [21:59] personalities [22:00] na nilagay [22:01] dun sa [22:01] survey [22:02] wala pa [22:03] namang [22:04] mismo [22:04] nang [22:04] galing [22:05] sa [22:05] kanina [22:05] na [22:05] sila [22:06] interesado [22:06] so [22:07] we [22:07] cannot [22:07] or [22:08] they [22:08] cannot [22:08] command [22:09] a [22:09] support [22:10] dahil [22:11] hindi pa [22:11] naman [22:12] din [22:12] sila [22:12] nagde-declare [22:13] ibang [22:14] marami [22:15] pang [22:15] questions [22:17] at the [22:17] bottom [22:17] line [22:18] ay [22:19] masyado [22:19] pa [22:20] tayong [22:20] maaga [22:20] hintayin [22:21] natin [22:22] ang [22:22] resulta [22:23] nitong [22:23] trial [22:25] na ito [22:26] dahil [22:27] nga [22:27] ang pinag-uusapan [22:28] dito [22:29] karapat [22:29] dapat [22:30] ba [22:30] manatili [22:31] sa [22:32] pwesto [22:32] o hindi [22:32] ba [22:32] karapat [22:33] dapat [22:33] ba [22:34] itong [22:35] politikong [22:36] ito [22:37] na [22:37] umupo [22:39] bilang [22:40] isang [22:40] lingkod [22:40] bayan [22:41] assuming [22:44] that [22:45] the [22:45] results [22:46] are [22:46] accurate [22:47] at [22:47] pinapakita [22:48] nga [22:48] na [22:49] merong [22:50] patuloy [22:51] na [22:51] sumusuporta [22:52] at [22:52] nagtitiwala [22:52] sa [22:53] vice [22:53] presidente [22:53] tulad [22:54] ng [22:54] sinabi [22:55] namin [22:55] dati [22:55] all the [22:56] more [22:56] na [22:57] dapat [22:57] masagot [22:58] ng [22:59] presidente [23:00] sa [23:00] pamamagitan [23:01] ng [23:01] ebidensya [23:02] itong [23:03] mga [23:03] aligasyon [23:05] at [23:05] ebidensya [23:05] na [23:05] nalatag [23:06] na [23:07] ng [23:07] prosecution [23:08] laban [23:08] sa [23:08] kanya [23:08] dito [23:09] sa [23:09] impeachment [23:09] proceedings [23:10] dahil [23:11] mas [23:12] seryoso [23:12] ang [23:13] issue [23:15] dito [23:15] kung [23:16] ganoon [23:16] hanggang [23:17] ngayon [23:17] merong [23:17] nagtitiwala [23:18] sa kanya [23:19] so [23:19] mas [23:19] lalo [23:20] dapat [23:20] alamin [23:20] natin [23:21] kung [23:22] sinira [23:24] ba [23:24] niya [23:24] linambag [23:25] ba [23:25] niya [23:25] ang [23:26] tiwala [23:27] nitong [23:27] mga [23:27] taong [23:28] bayan [23:28] sa [23:29] kanya [23:29] pero [23:30] sir [23:30] would [23:31] the [23:31] prosecution [23:31] use [23:32] these [23:33] figures [23:33] from [23:34] the [23:34] Pulse [23:34] Asia [23:34] survey [23:35] to [23:35] maybe [23:36] siguro [23:37] transmit [23:39] the [23:40] message [23:41] or [23:41] improve [23:42] the [23:42] messaging [23:42] kasi [23:43] it [23:43] appears [23:43] that [23:44] from [23:45] the [23:45] numbers [23:46] sir [23:46] parang [23:48] ang [23:49] pinakamababa [23:50] ni [23:50] VP [23:50] Sarah [23:50] dito [23:51] was [23:51] 52 [23:56] meron [23:57] siyang [23:58] at least [23:58] 50% [23:59] na [23:59] solid [23:59] na [24:00] foundation [24:00] na [24:00] no [24:00] matter [24:01] what [24:01] happens [24:01] during [24:02] the [24:02] trial [24:03] will [24:03] still [24:03] vote [24:04] for [24:04] her [24:04] during [24:06] the [24:07] for [24:07] the [24:07] 2028 [24:08] elections [24:08] is that [24:09] a [24:09] parang [24:10] signal [24:10] well [24:11] maybe [24:11] it [24:12] will [24:12] not [24:12] be [24:13] accurate [24:14] to [24:14] say [24:14] that [24:15] no [24:15] matter [24:15] the [24:16] results [24:16] of [24:16] this [24:16] child [24:17] that [24:17] they [24:17] will [24:17] vote [24:17] for [24:18] her [24:18] baka [24:19] in [24:19] fairness [24:20] to [24:20] the [24:20] people [24:21] who [24:21] were [24:22] made [24:22] part [24:23] of [24:23] this [24:23] survey [24:23] baka [24:24] premature [24:25] to [24:25] make [24:25] that [24:25] judgment [24:26] about [24:26] their [24:26] opinion [24:27] let's [24:27] remember [24:28] when [24:29] that [24:29] survey [24:29] was [24:30] conducted [24:30] it [24:31] was [24:32] madami [24:33] din [24:33] mga [24:33] ebidensyang [24:34] lumabas [24:35] after [24:35] that [24:35] survey [24:35] was [24:36] conducted [24:36] for [24:36] example [24:37] lalo [24:37] na [24:37] itong [24:38] witness [24:38] natin [24:39] at [24:39] si [24:39] attorney [24:40] Alex [24:40] Cabrera [24:40] hindi pa [24:41] narinig [24:42] kung [24:42] itong [24:43] yung [24:43] witness [24:44] na [24:44] pinagtahitahe [24:45] lahat [24:45] nitong [24:46] mga [24:47] different [24:48] bank [24:49] records [24:49] financial [24:50] transactions [24:50] etc. [24:51] na [24:52] pre-resenta [24:52] ng prosecution [24:53] paukol [24:54] sa unexplained [24:55] wealth [24:55] na [24:55] allegation [24:56] against [24:56] the [24:57] vice [24:57] president [24:57] so [24:58] baka [24:59] hindi [24:59] din [24:59] fair [25:00] to say [25:01] to [25:01] them [25:01] na [25:01] kahit [25:03] anong [25:03] lumabas [25:03] dito [25:04] hindi [25:05] magbabago [25:05] opinion [25:06] ng mga [25:06] kababayan [25:07] natin [25:07] sa vice [25:07] presidente [25:08] dagdagan ko [25:09] ng [25:10] konti [25:10] rin [25:11] if you [25:12] recall [25:12] itong [25:13] karang [25:14] halos [25:14] mahigit [25:15] isang buwan [25:16] ang pinag-uusapan [25:18] ay numero [25:18] you are [25:20] correct [25:20] in saying [25:21] that [25:21] there must [25:22] be [25:22] some [25:22] room [25:22] for [25:23] improvement [25:23] dun [25:24] sa [25:24] communications [25:25] aspect [25:26] of [25:27] letting [25:28] the [25:28] people [25:28] know [25:28] kung [25:29] ano [25:29] yung [25:29] nangyayari [25:29] sa [25:29] loob [25:30] ng [25:30] korte [25:30] mahalaga [25:31] yan [25:31] kasi [25:32] ang [25:33] ina-address [25:33] dapat [25:34] ng ating [25:34] mga [25:35] communication [25:37] strategies [25:39] ay yung [25:39] mga [25:39] tao [25:40] na [25:40] hindi [25:41] naman [25:42] palagi [25:42] nakakasubaybay [25:43] hindi [25:44] naman [25:44] palagi [25:45] nakikinig [25:45] sa [25:46] radio [25:48] or sa [25:48] TV [25:49] at [25:49] most [25:50] of [25:50] them [25:50] are [25:50] influenced [25:51] perhaps [25:51] by [25:52] what [25:52] they [25:52] see [25:53] and [25:53] read [25:53] in [25:54] the [25:54] social [25:54] media [25:55] kaya [25:55] dun [25:56] siguro [25:56] sa [25:56] aspetong [25:57] yun [25:57] we [25:58] agree [25:58] that [25:59] there [25:59] is [25:59] a [25:59] need [25:59] to [26:00] improve [26:00] on [26:01] the [26:01] communication [26:01] strategy [26:03] and [26:04] precisely [26:05] targeting [26:06] or [26:06] pinpointing [26:07] yung [26:07] market [26:08] yung [26:08] target [26:09] market [26:09] sa [26:10] communications [26:10] well [26:12] unang-una [26:13] tingnan muna [26:14] natin [26:14] dun sa [26:15] mga [26:15] sinorbay [26:16] siya [26:16] pa lang [26:17] naman [26:17] talaga [26:17] ang [26:17] officially [26:18] nagde-declare [26:19] sa lahat [26:20] pangalawa [26:21] assuming [26:22] for the [26:22] sake [26:22] of [26:23] argument [26:23] na [26:24] totoo [26:24] po [26:24] yung [26:25] mga [26:25] numero [26:26] na [26:27] pinakikita [26:27] nila [26:28] pero [26:29] ang [26:29] tanong [26:29] po [26:29] dito [26:30] ay [26:30] simple [26:30] lang [26:31] karapat [26:32] dapat [26:32] po [26:33] ba [26:33] siya [26:33] para [26:34] sa [26:34] posisyon [26:35] at [26:36] pinakikita [26:37] po [26:37] dito [26:37] sa [26:37] trial [26:38] sa [26:38] tingin [26:39] po [26:39] namin [26:39] hindi [26:40] thank [26:41] you [26:41] sir [26:42] all [26:43] right [26:44] good [26:49] afternoon [26:49] po [26:49] may [26:50] be [26:50] kay [26:50] attorney [26:50] jason's [26:51] procedural [26:51] question [26:52] attorney [26:52] walk us [26:53] through [26:53] what [26:54] will [26:54] happen [26:54] after [26:55] the [26:56] conclusion [26:57] of [26:58] cross [26:59] direct [27:00] and [27:00] redirect [27:01] and [27:01] recross [27:02] of [27:03] Mr. [27:04] Cabrera [27:05] given [27:07] that [27:08] it was [27:08] already [27:09] said [27:09] last [27:09] week [27:09] that [27:10] Cabrera [27:10] is [27:10] the [27:10] last [27:11] witness [27:11] of [27:11] the [27:12] prosecution [27:13] and [27:13] the [27:13] prosecution [27:14] also [27:14] said [27:14] that [27:15] you [27:16] have [27:17] dropped [27:17] the [27:18] article [27:18] of [27:19] impeachment [27:19] on [27:19] bribery [27:20] conclusion [27:22] pa [27:22] ba [27:22] pa [27:22] ano [27:22] ba [27:23] yung [27:23] inaasahan [27:24] natin [27:25] from [27:25] the [27:25] prosecution [27:25] So [27:26] since [27:26] you'll [27:26] be [27:26] our [27:27] last [27:27] witness [27:28] normally [27:30] in [27:31] ordinary [27:32] criminal [27:33] or [27:33] civil [27:33] cases [27:34] what [27:34] will [27:34] happen [27:34] is [27:35] the [27:37] party [27:37] who [27:38] presented [27:39] evidence [27:39] will now [27:40] file a [27:40] formal [27:41] offer [27:41] of [27:41] evidence [27:42] tapos [27:43] the [27:43] other [27:43] party [27:44] will [27:44] be [27:44] given [27:44] a [27:44] chance [27:45] to [27:45] find [27:45] their [27:45] comment [27:46] or [27:46] objections [27:46] and [27:47] then [27:47] the [27:47] court [27:47] will [27:47] rule [27:48] on [27:48] it [27:48] after [27:49] ruling [27:49] on [27:49] it [27:49] and [27:50] then [27:50] that's [27:51] the [27:51] time [27:51] that [27:51] the [27:51] other [27:52] party [27:52] will [27:52] start [27:52] presenting [27:53] their [27:54] evidence [27:54] but [27:55] here [27:56] we [27:57] don't [27:57] want [27:57] to [27:57] preempt [27:58] the [27:58] action [27:59] that [27:59] the [28:00] impeachment [28:00] court [28:01] may [28:01] take [28:01] maaring [28:02] ang [28:03] rule [28:03] na [28:04] gagawin [28:04] nila [28:04] pareho [28:05] dun [28:05] sa [28:05] lower [28:06] courts [28:06] sa [28:06] trial [28:06] courts [28:07] and [28:07] then [28:07] that's [28:08] what's [28:09] going [28:09] to [28:09] happen [28:09] we [28:10] will [28:10] be [28:10] directed [28:11] to [28:11] file [28:11] our [28:12] formal [28:12] offer [28:12] be [28:13] beginning [28:13] chance [28:14] na [28:14] sumagot [28:15] ng [28:15] kabilang [28:16] partido [28:16] the [28:17] court [28:17] will [28:17] rule [28:17] on [28:17] it [28:18] and [28:18] most [28:18] probably [28:18] if [28:19] that [28:19] will [28:19] be [28:19] the [28:19] case [28:19] mokong [28:20] sa [28:21] resumption [28:21] na [28:22] ng [28:22] hearing [28:22] after [28:23] the [28:23] break [28:23] because [28:24] we [28:24] know [28:24] there [28:25] will [28:25] be [28:25] a [28:25] break [28:25] sometime [28:26] mid [28:26] October [28:27] until [28:27] November [28:28] pagbalik [28:29] that [28:30] will [28:31] be [28:31] the [28:31] start [28:31] of [28:31] their [28:31] presentation [28:32] of [28:32] evidence [28:33] but [28:33] as [28:35] I've [28:35] stated [28:35] I [28:36] don't [28:36] want [28:36] to [28:36] preempt [28:36] the [28:37] court [28:37] 's [28:37] action [28:37] kasi [28:37] baka [28:38] naman [28:38] ibang [28:39] procedure [28:39] nila [28:40] dito [28:40] for [28:41] example [28:42] maalala [28:43] natin [28:48] yet [28:48] with [28:48] respect [28:49] to [28:50] article [28:51] 1 [28:52] yung [28:52] confidential [28:52] funds [28:53] dahil [28:54] nga [28:55] daw [28:55] baka [28:55] the [28:56] court [28:56] will [28:57] call [28:58] additional [28:59] witnesses [29:00] at the [29:00] end [29:01] so [29:01] let's [29:03] see [29:03] how [29:03] the [29:03] court [29:04] will [29:04] clarify [29:04] that [29:04] order [29:05] no [29:05] you [29:07] rest [29:07] your [29:07] case [29:07] already [29:08] kasi [29:08] kung [29:08] tatawagin [29:09] yan [29:09] it [29:09] will [29:09] be [29:10] the [29:10] court's [29:10] witnesses [29:11] not [29:11] yours [29:12] so [29:12] pwede [29:12] ka [29:12] na [29:12] magrest [29:13] so [29:14] but [29:15] there's [29:15] that [29:15] ruling [29:15] so [29:16] that's [29:16] why [29:16] we [29:16] ayaw [29:18] na [29:18] magbigay [29:18] ng [29:19] definitive [29:20] assumption [29:22] as to [29:23] how [29:23] the [29:23] court [29:24] will [29:24] handle [29:24] this [29:24] matter [29:25] so [29:25] that [29:27] will [29:27] probably [29:28] be [29:28] clarified [29:29] later [29:30] pagkatapos [29:31] na ng [29:31] cross [29:33] redirect [29:33] recross [29:34] ng last [29:35] witness [29:35] namin [29:35] and then [29:36] we'll [29:36] see [29:37] how [29:37] we'll [29:37] move [29:37] forward [29:38] kasi [29:39] kami [29:39] ang gusto [29:40] sana [29:40] namin [29:40] as stated [29:41] in our [29:41] manifestation [29:42] wag [29:44] nating [29:44] sayangin [29:46] yung [29:46] natitirang [29:47] oras [29:47] pa [29:47] before [29:47] the [29:47] break [29:48] that's [29:48] why [29:48] you're [29:49] requesting [29:49] if [29:49] possible [29:50] that [29:51] the [29:51] defense [29:51] be [29:51] directed [29:52] to [29:52] immediately [29:53] start [29:54] presenting [29:54] its own [29:54] evidence [29:55] already [29:55] pagkatapos [29:56] namin [29:56] mag-conclude [29:57] but [29:58] we'll [29:58] find out [29:59] later [29:59] how [30:00] the [30:01] court [30:01] will [30:02] rule [30:02] on [30:02] this [30:02] kung [30:03] sasabihin [30:03] na ba [30:03] sa direct [30:04] start [30:04] na [30:04] kayo [30:05] or [30:05] sasabihin [30:06] prosecution [30:08] formal [30:09] offer [30:10] muna [30:10] kayo [30:10] of [30:10] evidence [30:11] sa [30:12] normal [30:14] court [30:14] proceedings [30:15] kasi [30:15] pag [30:18] nag-rest [30:18] pag [30:18] natapos [30:19] ang [30:19] presentation [30:21] ng [30:22] prosecution [30:22] witness [30:23] or [30:24] witnesses [30:24] nag-rest [30:26] na [30:26] so anong [30:27] ibig sabihin [30:27] ng [30:28] pag [30:28] nag-rest [30:28] na [30:28] ibig sabihin [30:29] sinasarado [30:30] na namin [30:30] yung [30:31] pinto [30:31] ibig sabihin [30:32] wala na [30:33] kaming [30:33] ipatatawag [30:34] kaya po [30:35] after neto [30:37] after [30:37] mag-rest [30:37] ng [30:38] prosecution [30:38] ang [30:40] normal [30:41] na [30:41] ginagawa [30:41] po [30:42] dyan [30:42] nagsasubmit [30:43] kami [30:43] ng [30:43] formal [30:44] offer [30:44] of [30:44] evidence [30:45] ibig sabihin [30:46] sinarado [30:47] na namin [30:47] yung [30:47] pinto [30:48] wala na [30:48] kami [30:48] patatawag [30:49] na [30:49] testigo [30:49] wala [30:50] nang [30:50] ebidensya [30:50] iprepresenta [30:51] kaya [30:52] eto [30:52] na [30:52] formally [30:53] your [30:53] honor [30:53] ang [30:54] mga [30:54] ebidensya [30:55] na [30:55] naipresenta [30:56] namin [30:56] at [30:57] ihingyan [30:57] ng [30:57] pagkakataon [30:58] yung [30:59] defense [31:00] para [31:01] magbigay [31:03] ng [31:03] kanilang [31:04] mga [31:04] komento [31:04] dito [31:05] and [31:05] then [31:05] that's [31:09] present [31:09] ng [31:09] depensa [31:10] pero [31:11] kagaya [31:11] nga po [31:12] nang [31:12] nasabi [31:12] ni [31:13] attorney [31:13] jay [31:14] nung [31:14] kami [31:14] po [31:14] ay [31:15] nag [31:15] present [31:15] ng [31:16] aming [31:16] mga [31:17] testigo [31:18] doon [31:19] sa [31:19] article [31:19] 1 [31:20] sa [31:20] confidential [31:21] fund [31:21] ay [31:22] sinabihang [31:23] kami [31:23] o [31:24] binigyan [31:24] kami [31:25] ng [31:25] payo [31:25] ng [31:26] presiding [31:27] officer [31:28] na [31:28] huwag [31:28] muna [31:28] kaming [31:29] mag-rest [31:29] so [31:30] as [31:30] we [31:30] speak [31:31] yung [31:31] article [31:32] 1 [31:32] ay [31:32] nakabukas [31:33] pa [31:33] ang [31:34] pinto [31:34] so [31:35] sa [31:35] madaling [31:36] salita [31:36] hindi [31:36] pa [31:37] namin [31:37] naisasara [31:38] so [31:38] paano [31:39] kami [31:39] makakapagbigay [31:40] ng [31:40] formal [31:41] offer [31:41] of [31:42] evidence [31:42] ibig [31:43] sabihin [31:43] paano [31:43] namin [31:44] ipepresenta [31:44] yung [31:44] mga [31:45] ebidensya [31:45] kung [31:46] nakabukas [31:46] pa [31:47] yung [31:47] pinto [31:47] ibig [31:48] sabihin [31:48] maaaring [31:49] meron [31:49] pang [31:49] mga [31:50] testigo [31:50] na [31:51] ipresenta [31:52] ang [31:53] panig [31:53] ng [31:54] prosecution [31:54] so [31:56] ngayon [31:57] ang [31:57] time po [31:58] namin [31:58] kung [31:59] ano [31:59] po [31:59] ipapayo [32:00] sa [32:00] amin [32:01] mamaya [32:01] dahil [32:02] iba [32:02] po [32:03] yung [32:03] sitwasyon [32:04] ngayon [32:05] dito [32:08] panig [32:09] ng [32:09] prosecution [32:10] since [32:10] nanabi [32:10] niyo [32:11] na po [32:11] last [32:11] week [32:11] last [32:12] witness [32:12] niyo [32:13] na [32:13] itong [32:13] si [32:13] cabrera [32:14] and [32:14] following [32:16] that [32:16] logic [32:17] po [32:17] ano [32:18] po [32:18] nangyari [32:19] doon [32:19] kay [32:20] VP [32:20] Sara [32:20] Duterte [32:21] because [32:21] the [32:22] prosecution [32:23] made [32:23] of us [32:24] last [32:24] month [32:25] saying [32:26] that [32:27] at [32:27] some [32:27] point [32:27] you're [32:28] hoping [32:28] to [32:29] present [32:30] or [32:30] to [32:31] call [32:31] the [32:31] vice [32:31] president [32:32] to [32:33] the [32:33] witness [32:33] stand [32:34] so [32:34] what [32:35] happened [32:35] to [32:35] that [32:36] plan [32:38] or [32:38] possible [32:39] plan [32:39] well [32:42] first [32:43] of all [32:44] as [32:45] you've [32:46] stated [32:46] every [32:46] time [32:47] we [32:47] make [32:47] decisions [32:48] regarding [32:48] witnesses [32:49] that [32:49] we'll [32:49] present [32:49] it's [32:50] always [32:51] based [32:51] on [32:51] our [32:51] analysis [32:52] of [32:52] the [32:52] evidence [32:53] that [32:53] we've [32:53] presented [32:53] so [32:54] far [32:54] and [32:55] we're [32:56] already [32:56] satisfied [32:57] with [32:58] the [32:58] evidence [32:58] that [32:59] we've [32:59] presented [32:59] and [33:00] the [33:00] case [33:00] that [33:00] we [33:00] built [33:00] now [33:01] narinig [33:03] na din [33:03] naman [33:04] natin [33:05] declarations [33:10] of [33:10] the [33:10] vice [33:11] president [33:11] herself [33:12] regarding [33:13] matters [33:15] affecting [33:16] itong [33:16] issue [33:17] explained [33:17] wealth [33:18] ano [33:18] ito [33:19] yung [33:19] sworn [33:20] declaration [33:21] nya [33:21] sa [33:22] kanyang [33:22] salen [33:23] yung [33:24] mga [33:24] figures [33:24] nya [33:24] sa [33:25] kanyang [33:25] nang [33:25] galing [33:25] yan [33:26] those [33:26] are [33:26] sworn [33:27] statements [33:28] nung [33:28] sinabi [33:29] niyang [33:29] ang [33:29] yaman [33:30] nya [33:30] ay [33:30] 98 [33:31] million [33:31] as [33:32] of [33:32] end [33:32] of [33:32] 2025 [33:33] she [33:35] also [33:35] spoke [33:35] through [33:36] the [33:36] bank [33:36] records [33:37] official [33:37] bank [33:37] records [33:38] that [33:39] were [33:39] presented [33:39] in [33:39] this [33:40] case [33:40] already [33:40] again [33:41] this [33:42] did [33:42] not [33:42] come [33:42] from [33:42] the [33:43] prosecution [33:43] this [33:44] did [33:44] not [33:44] come [33:44] from [33:44] the [33:45] government [33:45] ito [33:46] ay [33:46] nang [33:47] galing [33:47] sa [33:48] mga [33:48] bank [33:49] records [33:49] ng [33:50] vice [33:50] presidente [33:50] at [33:51] kanyang [33:51] asawa [33:51] she [33:52] also [33:52] spoke [33:53] through [33:53] the [33:54] BIR [33:54] records [33:55] that [33:55] were [33:55] already [33:58] nagsumiti [33:59] niyan [33:59] sa [34:00] BIR [34:00] na [34:00] sinasabi [34:01] niya [34:01] during [34:02] the [34:02] relevant [34:02] periods [34:03] ito [34:04] lang [34:04] ang [34:05] kanyang [34:05] kinita [34:05] so [34:06] we [34:07] don't [34:07] need [34:08] we [34:08] don't [34:08] see [34:09] the [34:09] need [34:09] to [34:09] get [34:10] testimonial [34:10] or [34:12] her [34:12] testimony [34:13] anymore [34:13] when [34:14] the [34:15] records [34:16] most [34:17] of [34:17] them [34:18] which [34:18] came [34:18] from [34:19] her [34:19] already [34:20] spoke [34:20] loudly [34:21] second [34:21] mukhang [34:23] based [34:24] dun [34:24] sa [34:25] naririnig [34:25] natin [34:26] dun [34:26] sa [34:26] cross [34:26] examination [34:27] ng [34:28] kabila [34:28] parang [34:29] without [34:30] not [34:31] to [34:31] preempt [34:32] the [34:33] explanation [34:33] that [34:34] they'll [34:34] be [34:34] giving [34:34] when [34:35] it's [34:35] their [34:35] turn [34:35] to [34:36] present [34:36] evidence [34:37] pero [34:37] narinig [34:38] natin [34:38] for [34:38] example [34:39] sinabi [34:40] nung [34:40] one [34:40] of [34:40] her [34:41] councils [34:41] tumayo [34:42] dun [34:42] sa [34:42] joint [34:43] account [34:43] di [34:43] na [34:43] daw [34:43] niya [34:43] maalala [34:44] and [34:45] dun [34:46] sa [34:46] cross [34:46] parang [34:48] ang [34:48] pinupunto [34:49] is [34:50] alaging [34:53] tinatanong [34:53] alam [34:53] ba [34:53] niy [34:54] yung [34:54] busy [34:54] presidente [34:54] yung [34:55] mga [34:55] transactions [34:56] bank [34:57] accounts [34:57] ng [34:58] kanyang [34:58] asawa [34:58] so [34:59] kung [34:59] sasabihin [35:00] lang [35:00] din [35:00] naman [35:01] hindi [35:01] din [35:01] niya [35:01] tulad [35:02] ng [35:02] mga [35:02] ibang [35:02] witnesses [35:03] natin [35:03] narinig [35:04] na [35:04] madami [35:04] silang [35:05] bagay [35:05] na [35:05] walang [35:05] alam [35:06] eh [35:06] kung [35:06] sasabihin [35:07] lang [35:07] din [35:07] naman [35:08] na [35:08] ganun [35:09] din [35:09] wala [35:10] ding [35:10] alam [35:10] ang [35:11] vice [35:11] president [35:11] sa [35:12] mga [35:12] bagay [35:12] na [35:12] ito [35:12] we [35:13] didn't [35:13] see [35:13] the [35:14] need [35:14] to [35:14] burden [35:17] the [35:18] court's [35:18] calendar [35:19] and [35:19] the [35:19] senator [35:20] judges [35:20] with [35:20] that [35:21] kind [35:21] of [35:21] testimony [35:21] as [35:22] of [35:22] today [35:23] wala [35:23] nang [35:23] plano [35:23] prosecution [35:24] na [35:24] ipatawag [35:25] ang [35:25] vice [35:25] presidente [35:25] that's [35:26] correct [35:26] but [35:26] of [35:26] course [35:27] if [35:27] they [35:27] want [35:27] to [35:28] you [35:28] know [35:28] we [35:31] wanted [35:32] to [35:32] give [35:32] the [35:32] senator [35:33] judges [35:33] the [35:33] chance [35:34] to [35:34] hear [35:34] the [35:35] explanation [35:35] from [35:36] her [35:36] but [35:36] we [35:36] stated [35:37] the [35:37] documents [35:38] have [35:38] spoken [35:39] already [35:39] and [35:40] we [35:41] don't [35:41] see [35:41] the [35:41] need [35:41] for [35:41] that [35:42] but [35:42] if [35:43] during [35:43] their [35:43] turn [35:44] papatawag [35:44] nila [35:44] then [35:45] we [35:45] welcome [35:45] it [35:46] and [35:46] we'll [35:46] be [35:46] ready [35:46] to [35:46] cross [35:47] examiner [35:47] as a matter [35:52] of [35:52] strategy [35:53] legal [35:54] strategy [35:55] siguro [35:55] mas maganda [35:56] ang po [35:56] pwede [35:56] magpatawag [35:57] sa ating [35:57] vice [35:58] presidente [35:58] ay [35:59] ang [35:59] defense [36:00] dahil [36:01] yun [36:01] ang [36:02] kanilang [36:02] pwede [36:02] maging [36:03] legal [36:03] strategy [36:04] para [36:04] may [36:04] paliwanag [36:05] ng [36:06] ating [36:06] vice [36:08] presidente [36:09] yung [36:10] mga [36:10] bagay [36:10] bagay [36:11] na [36:11] halimbawa [36:12] yung [36:13] mga [36:13] dokumento [36:13] na [36:14] ipingresenta [36:14] namin [36:15] alright [36:18] thank you [36:19] Dwight [36:19] G [36:20] your turn [36:22] maganda tanghali [36:23] kong [36:23] Saji [36:23] Kaamino [36:24] Brigada [36:24] News [36:24] FM [36:25] sabi [36:26] po [36:26] ni [36:26] VP [36:27] Sara [36:27] sa [36:27] press [36:28] con [36:28] niya [36:29] nag [36:30] iimbento [36:30] daw po [36:31] ng [36:31] impeachment [36:32] case [36:32] ang [36:32] prosecution [36:33] nag [36:35] umpisa [36:35] nag [36:36] isam [36:36] nag [36:37] umpisa [36:37] raw [36:37] po [36:37] kayo [36:38] sa [36:38] madriaga [36:39] pero [36:40] eventually [36:41] na [36:41] laglag [36:42] or [36:42] bumagsak [36:43] daw [36:43] po [36:43] ang [36:44] kaso [36:44] so [36:45] ngayon [36:45] nag [36:45] shift [36:46] daw [36:46] po [36:46] kayo [36:46] sa [36:46] narrative [36:47] ng [36:47] China [36:47] China [36:48] ang [36:50] binabanggit [36:51] po [36:51] niya [36:51] bumabagsak [36:52] na nga [36:52] daw po [36:52] ang [36:53] impeachment [36:54] case [36:54] against [36:55] her [36:55] Well if that is the case [36:57] we challenge the defense [36:59] mag file sila ng demurrer [37:00] to evidence [37:01] kung sa tingin nila [37:02] wala namang kaming [37:03] naipresenta [37:04] Unang-una [37:05] ito pong [37:06] impeachment [37:07] ay [37:08] kung makikita ninyo [37:09] papano po nila [37:10] sasabihin na [37:11] ito'y [37:11] imbento [37:12] halimbawa na [37:12] lamang po [37:13] sa grave threat [37:14] e [37:15] papano po niya [37:16] sasabihin na [37:16] imbento yun [37:17] e siya po mismo [37:18] hindi naman po nila [37:19] dininay [37:20] natapos po [37:22] yung presentation [37:22] pero never po [37:24] natin narinig [37:25] na dininay niya [37:25] yung mga kataga [37:26] na pagbabanta [37:28] sa presidente [37:29] sa first lady [37:30] at sa former speaker [37:31] sa dum po [37:32] sa confi fund [37:33] mismong yung mga [37:35] tauhan niya [37:37] si miss Gina [37:38] Costa mismo [37:38] nagsabi [37:39] na [37:40] apan sa utos po niya [37:41] ibinigay nila [37:42] itong pera [37:43] dito sa isang [37:45] tao [37:47] na hindi naman [37:48] accountable officer [37:49] so dito naman [37:52] ngayon [37:53] sa unexplained wealth [37:55] itong pinakikita po [37:56] natin [37:56] ay hindi naman po [37:57] itong masasabing [37:58] gawa-gawa [37:59] dahil mismo [38:00] ang AMLOC [38:01] director po [38:01] executive director [38:03] ang [38:04] nagpresenta [38:05] ng mga dokumento [38:07] at mga katibayan [38:09] so [38:10] kung [38:11] sa tingin po niya [38:12] lahat po [38:13] ng ito [38:13] ay gawa-gawa [38:14] lamang [38:14] at wala namang [38:15] naipresenta [38:16] ang prosecution [38:18] sa paniniwala [38:19] ng defense [38:20] at ng ating [38:21] vice-presidente [38:22] e bakit hindi sila [38:23] mag-file [38:24] ng demurrer [38:25] to evidence [38:26] nang sa ganun [38:26] ito po [38:27] ay mahusgahan na [38:29] ng mga senator [38:31] judges [38:31] kung meron nga po [38:32] bang ebidensya [38:33] o wala [38:34] this is a recent [38:38] statement [38:39] by the vice [38:39] president [38:40] na [38:40] gawa-gawa [38:42] lang [38:42] can you [38:44] nag-i-invento [38:45] ang prosecution [38:46] well first of all [38:47] this is not the [38:48] first time that she [38:49] made such an [38:51] accusation [38:52] against the [38:52] prosecution [38:53] we're resorting [38:55] to [38:55] fabricated [38:57] narratives [38:57] etc [38:57] so unang-una [38:59] again [39:00] we will leave it [39:01] to the court [39:02] to determine [39:03] if this constitutes [39:05] a violation [39:06] of the subjudice [39:07] rule [39:07] medyo madami-dami [39:08] na ho [39:08] yung mga [39:09] attacks against [39:10] the integrity [39:11] of the court [39:12] kung dati [39:12] sinasabi [39:13] itong mga [39:15] allegations [39:15] against the [39:16] senator judges [39:16] now against [39:17] the prosecution [39:18] so we'll leave it [39:19] to the court [39:19] kung sa tingin [39:20] may violation [39:21] ng subjudice [39:22] rule [39:22] but more importantly [39:24] again [39:24] kailangan namin [39:25] emphasize dito [39:26] as mentioned [39:27] by Kong Joel [39:28] itong narinig [39:29] natin [39:29] let's just focus [39:30] now [39:31] I'll focus [39:32] and then explain [39:33] well [39:33] hindi ito [39:34] allegations [39:36] ng prosecution [39:37] again [39:37] itong mga [39:38] numero na to [39:39] nakabase to [39:40] sa mga [39:41] bank records [39:43] tax filings [39:47] mismo [39:47] ng vice-presidente [39:48] dun sa mga [39:49] witnesses [39:52] na narinig [39:53] natin [39:53] from [39:54] we heard [39:55] witnesses [39:55] from more [39:56] than [39:56] eight [39:56] banking [39:58] institutions [39:59] tapos [40:00] I think [40:01] six [40:02] from [40:02] insurance [40:03] companies [40:03] at [40:04] again [40:05] itong sinabi [40:07] na [40:07] figure [40:09] ni [40:09] attorney [40:09] Alex Cabrera [40:11] na total [40:11] undeclared [40:12] assets [40:13] as of [40:13] end of [40:14] 2025 [40:14] ng vice-presidente [40:16] na [40:16] 817.8 [40:19] million [40:19] hindi ito [40:21] inimbento [40:22] ng prosecution [40:23] nang galing ito [40:24] sa expert [40:25] witness [40:26] at [40:26] tulad ng [40:28] pinapaliwanag [40:29] niya [40:29] magmula [40:30] last week [40:30] hanggang [40:31] ngayon [40:31] nakabatay [40:32] itong [40:33] ginawa niyang [40:34] very [40:34] conservative [40:36] estimate pa [40:37] ito [40:37] itong [40:38] binigay niya [40:39] na [40:39] 817 [40:40] million [40:40] undeclared [40:41] nakabatay [40:42] ito dun [40:42] sa lahat [40:43] ng mga [40:43] dokumento [40:44] na binigay [40:44] sa kanya [40:45] which ways [40:45] have [40:45] pinad [40:46] yung kahon-kahon [40:48] na nakita [40:49] natin [40:49] ng mga [40:49] bank records [40:50] different [40:51] financial [40:52] transactions [40:52] etc [40:53] yan ang [40:53] pinagbasihan [40:54] nitong [40:55] numero [40:55] na ito [40:56] sabi po [40:58] ni [40:59] attorney [41:00] salvador [41:00] panelo [41:01] naniniwala [41:01] siyang [41:02] mako-convict [41:02] si vice [41:05] president [41:05] saradote [41:06] but on [41:07] the basis [41:07] na [41:08] wala [41:08] rapong [41:09] evidence [41:09] political [41:10] by the [41:12] senator [41:12] judges [41:13] so [41:13] mako-convict [41:14] si [41:14] vp [41:14] saradote [41:14] pero [41:15] wala [41:15] daw [41:15] ebidensya [41:16] gusto [41:17] lang [41:18] daw [41:18] i-convict [41:18] so [41:18] hindi [41:19] daw [41:19] siya [41:19] ma [41:19] acquit [41:21] at the [41:21] end [41:21] of the [41:21] day [41:22] kung [41:22] mako-convict [41:23] ano yung [41:25] basis [41:26] nila [41:26] para [41:28] sabihin [41:28] na [41:28] mako-convict [41:29] siya [41:29] kahit [41:30] walang [41:31] ebidensya [41:31] hindi [41:32] naman [41:32] siguro [41:33] ganon [41:33] dapat [41:34] ang [41:34] tingin [41:34] natin [41:35] sa ating [41:35] mga [41:35] senator [41:36] judges [41:36] huwag [41:37] natin [41:37] tawaran [41:37] yung [41:37] kanilang [41:38] talino [41:38] yung [41:39] kanilang [41:40] servisyo [41:41] para [41:41] sa [41:41] bayan [41:42] because [41:42] itong [41:44] issue [41:44] ay [41:44] hindi [41:45] ito [41:45] ordinary [41:45] issue [41:46] na [41:46] pang-araw [41:47] issue [41:48] because [41:48] how [41:48] often [41:49] do [41:49] we [41:49] conduct [41:50] proceedings [41:51] of [41:51] impeachment [41:51] in [41:52] this [41:52] country [41:53] hindi [41:53] naman [41:54] ito [41:54] normal [41:54] as if [41:55] you're [41:56] doing [41:57] your [41:57] legislative [41:57] work [41:59] hindi [41:59] ito [42:00] ay [42:00] isang [42:00] constitutional [42:01] duty [42:02] na [42:03] pinapakita [42:04] pinipresenta [42:05] ang mga [42:07] ebidensya [42:07] gaya [42:08] nga [42:08] nang [42:08] nasabi [42:09] ng [42:09] Nikong [42:10] Joel [42:11] Chua [42:12] at [42:12] saka [42:12] ni [42:12] attorney [42:13] Jay [42:13] itong [42:14] mga [42:14] ebidensya [42:15] ito [42:15] nagsususumigaw [42:16] ng mga [42:17] ebidensya [42:17] as we [42:19] always say [42:20] the evidence [42:21] speaks [42:22] for itself [42:23] nagsusumigaw [42:25] ng mga [42:25] ebidensya [42:25] kaya [42:26] hindi [42:26] pwedeng [42:27] isipin [42:27] na ito [42:28] ay gawa-gawa [42:28] kung ito [42:29] ay gawa-gawa [42:30] are they [42:31] saying [42:31] na ito [42:32] ay ginawa [42:32] ng [42:32] prosecution [42:33] hindi [42:34] because [42:35] itong [42:35] mga [42:36] ebidensya [42:36] ito [42:37] ay [42:37] nanggaling [42:38] sa [42:38] banko [42:39] nanggaling [42:40] sa [42:40] AMLAC [42:41] nanggaling [42:42] sa [42:42] tax [42:46] filings [42:47] at [42:47] higit [42:47] sa lahat [42:48] lahat [42:48] po yan [42:49] ay nanggaling [42:50] mismo [42:50] sa bibig [42:51] ng ating [42:51] pangalawang [42:52] Pangulo [42:52] so [42:54] saan [42:55] banda [42:55] tayo [42:56] para [42:57] sabihan [42:58] na gumagawa [42:58] o ginagawa-gawa [43:00] lamang [43:01] okay [43:01] unang-una [43:04] maliwanag [43:05] dito [43:05] mga [43:06] dadagdagang [43:07] ko lang [43:07] yung sinabi [43:08] ni [43:09] Kong Ace [43:10] na ito [43:11] paano [43:12] maging [43:12] gawa-gawa [43:13] e [43:13] siya mismo [43:14] yung gumawa [43:15] ng kanyang [43:15] salin [43:15] e [43:17] siya mismo [43:18] nagdeklara [43:18] ng kanyang [43:19] business [43:19] interest [43:20] e [43:21] ang linaw-linaw [43:22] dito sa ating [43:23] saligang batas [43:24] na ang [43:24] vice-presidente [43:25] hindi po [43:25] pwedeng [43:26] magkaroon [43:27] ng kahit [43:27] na anong [43:27] business [43:28] interest [43:28] either [43:29] directly [43:30] or [43:30] indirectly [43:31] so [43:32] hindi naman po [43:34] kami ang gumawa [43:34] nun e [43:35] yung pinresenta [43:36] po namin [43:37] yung salin [43:38] na mismo [43:38] pinirmahan niya [43:39] at pinanumpaan niya [43:41] sa notaryo [43:42] yun po lamang [43:43] yung pinresenta [43:44] so ano po [43:45] yung gawa-gawa [43:46] dun [43:46] yung pong [43:47] pagbabanta [43:48] hindi rin naman po [43:48] yung AI [43:49] never naman po [43:50] nilang [43:50] tinanggi yun [43:52] diba [43:53] so [43:54] hindi ko po [43:55] alam kung [43:56] ano po yung [43:56] gawa-gawa [43:57] na sinasabi po [43:58] nila [43:58] okay [44:00] last na lang po [44:01] um [44:01] dun po [44:03] sa [44:03] cross-examination [44:05] and I think [44:05] si [44:06] attorney [44:06] man [44:07] scarpe [44:07] sinagot [44:07] na rin [44:08] po [44:08] yun [44:09] tungkol [44:09] sa [44:09] pagkas [44:10] sa [44:10] credit [44:11] card [44:11] abroad [44:13] at [44:13] some [44:15] stores [44:15] po [44:15] shoe [44:16] stores [44:17] yung [44:18] sa [44:18] like [44:19] for example [44:20] yung sa [44:20] Japan [44:20] group [44:21] naman [44:21] daw [44:21] po [44:21] kasi [44:21] yun [44:22] yung [44:23] transaction [44:25] so [44:25] kung baka [44:25] may mga [44:26] kasama [44:26] po [44:26] silang [44:27] group [44:27] kaya [44:28] umabot [44:28] po [44:28] ng [44:28] ganun [44:29] and [44:29] kanya [44:30] daw [44:31] po [44:31] yung [44:31] credit [44:32] card [44:32] po [44:33] na [44:33] yun [44:33] and [44:33] at [44:34] the [44:34] same [44:34] time [44:34] ang [44:35] sinasabi [44:35] dun [44:36] sa [44:36] sapatos [44:37] na [44:38] purchase [44:39] daw po [44:39] for [44:39] the [44:40] basketball [44:40] team [44:41] ng [44:42] anak [44:42] po [44:42] kundi [44:42] ako [44:43] nagkakaman [44:43] sinagot [44:46] niya yung [44:47] sapatos [44:47] ng buong [44:48] basketball [44:48] team [44:49] big time [44:51] so [44:52] sana [44:53] sana [44:53] yung [44:54] yaman [44:55] yaman [44:55] yun [44:56] dun [44:56] sa [44:56] kanilang [44:57] salen [44:57] kaya [44:58] nga [44:58] pinag-uusapan [44:59] at [45:00] mahalagang [45:00] maintindihan [45:01] ng ating [45:01] mga [45:02] kababayan [45:03] na [45:03] pinag-uusapan [45:04] dito [45:05] ay [45:06] yung [45:06] sinasabing [45:07] hindi [45:07] maipaliwanag [45:08] na yaman [45:08] dahil [45:10] hinihingi [45:11] lamang [45:11] po [45:11] ng ating [45:12] mga [45:12] batas [45:13] at [45:13] ng ating [45:14] saligang [45:14] batas [45:15] na [45:15] i-deklara [45:16] mo ito [45:16] bilang [45:17] isang [45:17] lingkod [45:17] bayan [45:18] kung hindi mo [45:18] kayang [45:19] maideklara [45:19] ito [45:20] at hindi ka [45:20] tumalima [45:21] sa utos [45:22] ng ating [45:22] saligang [45:23] batas [45:23] meron kang [45:25] nilabag [45:27] at dahil [45:28] ikaw [45:29] ay isang [45:29] mataas [45:29] na opisyal [45:30] ng gobyerno [45:31] ang tanong [45:32] ng taong [45:32] bayan [45:33] dapat ka [45:33] pa bang [45:34] manatili [45:34] in spite [45:35] of the [45:35] fact [45:35] na [45:36] hindi ka [45:36] tumutugon [45:38] o tumatalima [45:39] sa utos [45:39] ng ating [45:40] saligang [45:40] batas [45:41] so [45:41] yun yun [45:42] pangalawa [45:43] yung [45:44] pagkain [45:45] so [45:46] ang ibig [45:47] bang [45:47] sabihin [45:47] nanlibre [45:48] nanlibre [45:50] ng pagkain [45:51] dahil marami [45:51] sila [45:52] nanlibre [45:53] siya [45:53] sa halagang [45:54] 200,000 [45:55] pesos [45:56] mahigit [45:57] big time [45:59] inabunohan [46:02] wala silang [46:07] yan [46:11] wala silang [46:12] yan [46:12] okay [46:13] so [46:13] well [46:14] that is [46:15] their [46:15] excuse [46:16] that is [46:16] their [46:17] defense [46:17] but let [46:18] the court [46:19] establish [46:20] that [46:20] at tingnan [46:21] natin [46:22] kung ano [46:22] yung [46:23] mas [46:23] matimbang [46:24] na [46:24] ebidensyang [46:25] papaniwalaan [46:26] ng ating [46:26] mga [46:26] senator [46:27] judges [46:27] more than the [46:32] purpose [46:33] kung para [46:33] saan itong [46:33] mga [46:34] transactions [46:34] na ito [46:35] wag [46:36] natin [46:36] kalimutan [46:37] ang una-una [46:37] kasing [46:38] tanongin [46:38] dito [46:38] is [46:39] consistent [46:40] ba [46:40] itong [46:41] ganitong [46:41] klaseng [46:42] transactions [46:42] with [46:44] what [46:45] they've [46:45] indicated [46:46] in the [46:47] SALN [46:48] let's [46:49] remember [46:49] from [46:49] 2019 [46:50] onwards [46:50] walang [46:51] nakadeklarang [46:52] cash on hand [46:52] or cash [46:52] in [46:53] bank [46:53] so [46:53] kung wala [46:54] kang [46:54] cash [46:54] on hand [46:55] or cash [46:55] in [46:55] bank [46:55] pero [46:56] posible [46:57] ba [46:57] na [46:58] sagutin [46:59] mo [46:59] or [47:00] kahit [47:01] nasabihin [47:01] mo [47:01] pang [47:02] you [47:02] just [47:02] advanced [47:03] it [47:03] 200,000 [47:05] worth [47:05] of [47:05] a meal [47:06] sagutin [47:08] mo [47:08] ang [47:09] ano ba [47:11] mga [47:11] shoes [47:11] ba [47:12] yan [47:12] Nike [47:12] apparel [47:13] ng [47:13] entire [47:13] basketball [47:14] team [47:14] so [47:15] yun [47:15] yung [47:15] question [47:16] doon [47:16] consistent [47:17] ba [47:17] siya [47:17] doon [47:18] sa [47:18] diniklar [47:18] sa [47:18] SALN [47:19] na [47:19] ito [47:20] lang [47:21] ang [47:21] ari-ari [47:21] nyo [47:22] it's [47:22] in fact [47:22] wala [47:23] kayong [47:23] diniklar [47:23] ang [47:23] cash [47:24] in [47:24] hand [47:24] or [47:24] cash [47:25] in [47:25] bank [47:25] and [47:25] mabalik [47:26] ako [47:26] lang [47:26] very [47:26] quickly [47:27] yung [47:27] doon [47:27] sa [47:28] na [47:28] mention [47:28] mo [47:28] na [47:29] sinabi [47:29] ng [47:29] spokesperson [47:30] ng [47:30] vice [47:30] president [47:31] na [47:31] mukhang [47:33] convinsido [47:34] siya [47:34] magkakaroon [47:34] ng [47:34] conviksyon [47:35] pero [47:35] hindi [47:36] ito [47:36] nakabatay [47:37] sa [47:37] ebidensya [47:38] well [47:46] pangalawa [47:48] yung [47:49] doon sa [47:49] point [47:49] naman [47:50] hindi [47:50] nakabatay [47:50] sa [47:51] ebidensya [47:51] again [47:51] ito [47:52] din yung [47:52] same [47:52] spokesperson [47:53] na [47:53] nagsabi [47:54] ng [47:54] sariswela [47:55] lang [47:55] ang [47:55] nangyayari [47:55] dito [47:56] so [47:56] malinaw [47:57] ang [47:58] ginagawa [47:58] nila [47:58] this is [47:59] mind [47:59] conditioning [47:59] sabi [48:01] nga [48:01] niya [48:01] kung [48:01] mukhang [48:02] nakikita [48:02] na [48:02] niya [48:02] papunta [48:03] to [48:03] sa [48:03] conviksyon [48:04] again [48:04] siya [48:04] nagsabi [48:05] niyan [48:05] pero [48:06] kinukondisyon [48:07] na nila [48:07] yung [48:08] mga [48:08] supporters [48:08] nila [48:09] naisipin [48:10] hindi [48:10] yan [48:10] nakabatay [48:11] sa [48:11] ebidensya [48:12] para [48:12] hindi [48:12] tanggapin [48:13] ang [48:14] magiging [48:14] pag-ahatol [48:15] na [48:15] gagawin [48:15] ng [48:16] mga [48:16] senator [48:16] judges [48:17] at [48:17] ito [48:17] yung [48:17] lagi [48:18] namin [48:18] sinasabi [48:19] na [48:19] napaka [48:19] delikado [48:20] na [48:21] kind [48:21] of [48:21] rhetoric [48:21] na [48:22] mind [48:22] conditioning [48:22] na [48:23] ginagawa [48:23] ng [48:23] kampo [48:24] na [48:24] ito [48:24] at [48:25] this [48:25] attacks [48:26] again [48:26] the [48:27] integrity [48:27] of [48:28] the [48:28] proceedings [48:29] and [48:29] of [48:29] the [48:30] institution [48:30] itself [48:31] at [48:31] ito [48:32] suguro [48:32] yung [48:32] problema [48:33] if [48:33] these [48:34] kinds [48:34] of [48:34] statements [48:34] are [48:35] left [48:35] unchecked [48:36] they feel [48:37] emboldened [48:38] at [48:38] makikita [48:39] natin [48:39] patuloy [48:39] pa [48:40] ito [48:40] lalo [48:40] na [48:41] nilang [48:41] ahatakihin [48:42] itong [48:43] proceedings [48:43] ito [48:43] yung [48:43] credibility [48:44] ng [48:44] senator [48:45] judges [48:45] at [48:45] ang [48:45] credibility [48:46] na [48:46] magiging [48:47] pag [48:47] huhusga [48:48] na [48:49] gagawin [48:50] dito [48:50] lalo [48:50] na [48:50] kung [48:50] hindi [48:51] magiging [48:51] pabor [48:51] sa [49:19] I guess [49:20] kung totoo [49:21] yun [49:21] they'll show [49:21] evidence [49:22] they donated [49:23] it [49:23] but again [49:23] the [49:24] issue [49:25] here [49:26] that [49:27] we're [49:27] trying [49:28] to [49:28] look [49:29] into [49:29] is [49:30] yung [49:30] financial [49:31] capacity [49:32] nila [49:32] to make [49:32] these [49:33] kinds [49:33] of [49:33] transactions [49:34] when [49:34] on the [49:34] one [49:35] hand [49:35] you're [49:35] saying [49:35] you don't [49:36] have [49:36] any [49:36] cash [49:36] in [49:37] hand [49:37] or [49:37] cash [49:37] in [49:37] bank [49:37] at [49:38] least [49:38] you [49:38] did [49:38] not [49:38] declare [49:39] any [49:39] separately [49:40] in [49:41] your [49:41] silence [49:41] diba [49:45] ang [49:45] yaman [49:45] niya [49:46] sagutin [49:47] mo [49:47] yung [49:47] basketball [49:48] team [49:48] ng [49:48] sapatos [49:49] Alright [49:52] Mukha pong [49:54] medyo [49:55] malapit [49:56] nang magbalik [49:57] ating mga [49:57] senator [49:58] judges [49:58] sa pagpapatuloy [49:59] ng trial [49:59] so on that [50:00] note [50:00] pasalamatan [50:01] natin [50:01] ang ating [50:02] mga [50:02] miembro [50:03] ng panel [50:03] si [50:04] attorney [50:04] jay [50:05] si [50:05] kong [50:05] chua [50:05] and [50:06] si [50:06] chair [50:07] ace [50:07] ating [50:08] mga [50:08] kaibigan [50:09] sa [50:09] media [50:09] sa [50:09] ating [50:09] mga [50:09] kababayan [50:10] patuloy [50:10] po [50:10] nating [50:11] sabaybayan [50:11] ang [50:12] pagpapatuloy [50:12] na [50:12] impeachment [50:13] trial [50:13] laban [50:14] kay [50:14] vice [50:14] president [50:15] sarah [50:15] duterte [50:16] magandang [50:16] hapon [50:16] po [50:17] sa [50:17] ating [50:17] lahat

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