House prosecution team holds press briefing on Day 12 of impeachment trial — Aug 4

[0:47] Welcome to the Noontime Press Briefing of the House Prosecution Team. [0:53] Para po masimula ng ating talakayan, panoorin muna natin ang konting recap sa mga nakaraang pagtalakay ng impeachment court sa mga isyong nakapaloob dito. [1:03] Oras ng pagdinig ay oras din ng taong bayan. Kapag pwedeng iwasan ang pagkaantala, dapat itong iwasan. [1:26] Kapag handa ang lahat, mas mabilis ang usad ng justisya. [1:32] Nakahanda na ang mga dokumento na ibigay na para ma-review. [1:37] Hindi dapat pinapahaba ang prosesong maaari namang mapabilis. [1:42] Ang buhat po nung nag-assume ako noong 2014, ang tanging si Vice Presidente Sara Duterte lang po yung aking na-audit na may confidential fund. [1:52] Halos isang dekadang nakapaglingkot ang ilang nagdaang umupo sa Office of the Vice President ng walang confidential funds. [2:00] Wala po ang naging appropriation for confidential funds si dating Vice President Binay at si dating Vice President Robredo. [2:08] Tanging si Vice President Sara Duterte lang po yung nagkaroon ng appropriation for the confidential fund. [2:13] Hindi otomatikong kailangan ng OVP at maging ng deped ng confidential funds. [2:20] Kung bagong pondo ito para sa opisina, mas mahalagang malinaw kung bakit ito kailangan at paano ito ginamit. [2:29] Ang pagkakaroon ng confidential funds ay hindi otomatikong paglabag. [2:35] Ang tanong ay kung tama at maayos ba ang paggamit nito. [2:41] May patakaran ang confidential funds. [2:44] At ayon sa co-awitness, [2:46] ay hindi compliant dun sa requirements ng Joint Circular 2015-01. [2:51] Kung walang malinaw na aktibidad, [2:54] paano susukatin kung saan napunta at ano ang resulta ng pondo? [2:59] Confidential ang operasyon, [3:01] pero hindi confidential ang pananagutan. [3:05] Hindi dami ng dokumento ang sukatan. [3:08] Ang mahalaga ay co-compliant ang mga ito. [3:12] Confidential ang operasyon, [3:14] hindi confidential ang resibo. [3:17] Kung may binili, [3:19] dapat may patunay kung saan at magkano ang binayaran. [3:22] Hindi sapat ang acknowledgement receipt [3:25] kung walang resibo at walang supporting document. [3:31] Ang mga nakatanggap mula sa confi funds [3:33] na tila kaduda-duda ang pangalan, [3:36] nadagdagan pa. [3:37] At hindi nilang sila hango sa pagkain. [3:42] Hindi pwedeng confidential ang sagot sa nawawalang dokumento. [3:46] Kailangang maliwanag. [3:50] Ang dilim! [3:52] Kanya ko pala hindi mabasa. [3:54] Ang dilim! [3:55] Hindi dapat mangibabaw ang mga kloses, [3:58] at mga batas na pumuprotekta sa confidentiality [4:02] laban sa konstitusyonal na tungkuli ng impeachment court. [4:07] Hindi confidential ang katotohanan. [4:10] Ilabas ang ebidensya, [4:12] sundan ang testimonya, [4:14] hayaang gumulong ang justisya. [4:17] Ayan, matapos po ang video showing na yan. [4:31] We'll pause for a short break [4:32] para lang po mabigyan ng pagkakataon ng ating mga panelists [4:35] ngayong tanghaling ito. [4:58] Ayan, nagbabalik po tayo sa ating panayam ngayong tanghaling ito. [5:01] Pinalad po tayo ng mga kakasama natin ngayon, [5:04] si House Impeachment Team Advisor [5:06] and former 2nd District ng Surigao del Norte, [5:10] Congressman Robert Ace Barbers. [5:12] At kasama rin natin, [5:14] walang iba kundi si Representative [5:16] Rods Rodriguez Gutierrez, [5:20] laging Rodriguez nasasal. [5:21] Rods Gutierrez, [5:23] ng One Rider Party List [5:25] para po sagutin ang inyong mga katanungan. [5:27] Para sa panimula, [5:30] baka may gustong opening statement [5:32] ng ating mga guests nga? [5:34] Kong Ace? [5:36] Siguro, hindi naman mahalaga [5:38] na mag-opening statement pa. [5:40] Roy, we'd appreciate [5:43] if we go straight to the questions [5:45] na gustong madinig ng ating mga kasamahan sa media. [5:49] Okay then, Haji, go ahead for your question. [5:55] Magandang tanghali po sa inyo. [5:57] Sa pagharap po ni Roderick Wamil, [5:59] madami pong mga napakita [6:02] ng mga supporting documents [6:03] na hindi nga raw po na i-submit [6:05] at iba pa pong mga bagay. [6:07] Satisfied na po ba kayo sa kanyang testimony? [6:09] Do you still see the need [6:10] na ipatawag yung isa pang state auditor [6:13] after ng direct examination [6:14] kay Roderick Wamil? [6:17] Yeah, thank you. [6:20] Speaking for the prosecution, [6:22] we don't want to preempt the team, of course. [6:24] But yeah, that's a fair assessment. [6:26] Very full naman po yung testimony ni [6:30] Atty. Wamil. [6:31] But we have to recall [6:32] the other witnesses [6:33] that were also in line, [6:35] they also serve other purposes. [6:36] So most probably [6:37] they would still be called. [6:38] But I don't want to say anything [6:39] that would preempt the team. [6:41] Yun na po. [6:42] Ako naman, [6:42] ang aking opinion ay [6:44] ito ay parang isang puzzle eh. [6:48] So kalahati pa lang [6:49] yung ating na bubuo. [6:51] At kailangan natin kumplituhin [6:53] lahat ng ebidensya. [6:54] Nang sa ganon ay makita natin [6:56] yung buong kabuoang litrato [6:58] o picture [6:59] ng ebidensyang ito. [7:02] So I don't want also to preempt [7:05] the decision of the prosecution panel [7:08] with respect to the withdrawal [7:12] of their witnesses. [7:15] But again, I'd like to emphasize [7:18] na ito ay [7:19] unti-unting [7:21] pagbuo [7:22] ng litrato [7:23] ng [7:24] allegasyon [7:26] na [7:26] sumusuporta [7:27] dito sa [7:28] ebidensyang itong [7:29] sumusuporta [7:30] sa mga allegasyon [7:31] na nakasaad dito [7:32] sa Article 1. [7:35] Last na lang po. [7:37] May sinabi po si [7:38] Attorney Michael [7:39] po wakahapon [7:40] na parang [7:40] sinadyaro po [7:42] yung pagpili [7:43] doon sa mga [7:44] acknowledgement receipts [7:45] especially sa mga pangalan [7:46] na lumabas nga po kahapon. [7:49] Ang alam kong huli [7:50] yung mga Gabriel Visaya [7:51] etc. [7:53] Parang sinadya nga raw po [7:55] tapos yun nga [7:55] may sagot naman daw po [7:57] doon yung [7:58] defense [8:00] pag turn na po nila [8:01] pero yung [8:02] kiniklaim po nila [8:03] is parang sinadya nga raw [8:04] po ng prosecution. [8:08] Sa tingin ko hindi [8:09] because lahat naman po [8:11] nakita naman po natin [8:12] yung labing limang karton [8:13] ng ebidensyang yun [8:15] and even if you [8:16] you get [8:17] samples of these documents [8:20] inside those boxes [8:21] makikita nyo [8:22] na yung mga pangalan [8:23] na lumalabas doon [8:25] ay mukhang [8:26] katawa-tawa. [8:29] Kaya nga [8:30] maraming nga [8:31] nagkomento na [8:32] yung mga pangalan niyan [8:33] ay hango [8:34] kundi sa chichiria [8:35] ito ay hango [8:36] doon sa mga [8:37] na-inventong pangalan. [8:40] And [8:40] we will come to that point [8:42] when the [8:43] next witness [8:43] that the prosecution [8:44] will present [8:45] will [8:46] also [8:47] certify [8:48] kung [8:49] ano ang [8:50] findings [8:50] ng prosecution [8:51] dito sa mga [8:52] dokumentong [8:53] itong [8:53] ay nilatag. [8:56] Just in addition [8:56] of course [8:57] it's the [8:58] full prerogative [8:59] of the prosecution [9:00] to present [9:00] which evidence [9:01] po [9:01] that they will [9:01] be presenting [9:02] but the fact of the matter [9:03] is [9:03] nandun yun [9:04] just because [9:04] they say po [9:05] na parang [9:05] pinipili na [9:07] ito lumalabas [9:08] pero [9:08] it might not [9:09] be the case [9:11] for the [9:12] other pieces [9:12] of evidence [9:13] but the fact of the matter [9:14] is merong ganun. [9:14] So I think [9:15] that's what [9:15] the prosecution [9:16] is trying [9:16] to point out [9:17] here po. [9:19] Okay. [9:20] Sir, [9:22] good afternoon. [9:24] Sir, [9:24] may nabanggit kasi [9:25] yung [9:25] payment of [9:27] 16 million [9:28] in 11 days [9:29] for a safe house. [9:30] Would that [9:31] be correct? [9:32] And [9:32] this was [9:33] issued [9:34] notice of [9:35] suspension? [9:37] Tama po ba yun? [9:38] How is this [9:39] different from [9:40] the 73 million [9:41] notice of [9:42] this allowance [9:43] issued [9:44] for the [9:45] 2022 [9:46] confidential fund [9:47] allocation [9:48] of the OVP? [9:49] Yes. [9:49] Doon sa [9:50] initial [9:50] audit [9:51] findings [9:52] merong [9:53] 73 million [9:55] doon [9:56] na hindi [9:57] supported [9:57] by [9:58] sufficient [10:01] justification [10:03] meaning [10:03] may question [10:05] kasi nga [10:05] maraming [10:06] dokumentong [10:07] ibinigay [10:08] o isinumite [10:09] ang ating [10:10] OVP [10:10] na [10:11] mga [10:11] ARs [10:12] lamang [10:12] o ito yung [10:13] acknowledgement [10:13] receipts. [10:15] For example, [10:16] yan sa [10:17] warehouse na yan [10:18] nagbayad [10:19] kundi [10:20] ako [10:20] nagkakamali [10:20] 1 million [10:21] peso [10:21] a day [10:22] ba yan? [10:24] I cannot [10:26] recall [10:26] kung ano [10:27] yung [10:27] exact [10:27] amount [10:28] in [10:29] relation [10:30] to the [10:31] rental [10:31] of this [10:32] warehouse [10:33] or safe [10:34] house. [10:35] Pero kung may [10:36] ganyan, [10:36] dapat meron [10:37] niyang [10:37] either [10:38] contract, [10:40] meron [10:40] niyang [10:40] sigurong [10:41] other [10:41] documents [10:42] that can [10:43] prove [10:43] that [10:43] indeed [10:44] merong [10:44] nirentahan [10:45] na [10:46] safe [10:47] house. [10:49] Yung [10:49] 73 [10:51] million [10:51] in [10:51] question [10:52] is [10:53] dun [10:53] sa [10:53] kabuoang [10:54] audit [10:56] report [10:58] ni [10:58] Roderick [11:00] Wamil [11:00] dun [11:00] sa [11:01] fourth [11:02] quarter [11:03] of [11:03] 2022. [11:05] Apparently, [11:06] he found [11:07] something [11:08] irregular [11:08] in the [11:09] submissions [11:09] of the [11:10] OVP [11:10] with [11:11] respect [11:11] to [11:12] the [11:12] documents [11:13] that [11:13] they [11:14] used [11:15] to [11:15] justify [11:16] the [11:17] disbursements [11:17] of [11:18] these [11:18] funds. [11:22] Sir, [11:22] follow-up. [11:23] Meron kasi [11:23] napansin ko [11:24] lang po [11:24] kanina [11:25] yung [11:25] discussion [11:26] centered [11:26] on [11:27] AOM. [11:30] Rather [11:30] that [11:30] as we [11:32] are all [11:32] aware [11:32] of, [11:33] meron [11:33] din pong [11:33] notice [11:34] of [11:34] this [11:34] allowance [11:35] although [11:35] this [11:36] is [11:36] not [11:36] yet [11:36] final. [11:37] Yung [11:37] 73M [11:38] kasi [11:38] may [11:38] final [11:39] decision [11:39] na yung [11:39] COA [11:40] dun. [11:40] May [11:41] 375 [11:42] million [11:42] na [11:44] inisyohan [11:45] ng COA [11:45] ng [11:45] notice [11:46] of [11:46] disallowance [11:46] for [11:47] 2023 [11:48] confidential [11:49] funds [11:50] of [11:50] the [11:50] OVP. [11:51] May [11:51] witness [11:52] po [11:52] ba [11:52] tayo [11:52] on [11:54] this [11:55] ND? [11:57] Speaking [11:58] for the [11:58] prosecution, [11:59] we cannot [11:59] preempt [12:00] the [12:00] team. [12:00] I hope [12:00] you'll [12:00] understand. [12:01] As [12:01] attorney [12:02] Virgil [12:02] says, [12:02] hold [12:03] your [12:03] horses. [12:03] And [12:06] this [12:06] may [12:07] disclose [12:08] the [12:09] legal [12:09] strategy [12:10] na [12:11] gagawin [12:11] ng [12:11] ating [12:12] prosecution [12:12] team. [12:13] So I [12:14] hope [12:14] you [12:14] understand [12:15] that [12:15] our [12:17] prosecutor [12:17] here [12:18] cannot [12:18] discuss [12:18] the [12:20] strategies [12:22] that [12:23] they [12:23] will [12:23] employ. [12:24] Meron [12:25] paring [12:25] dapat [12:25] element [12:26] of [12:26] surprise. [12:28] But [12:29] that's [12:29] just to [12:30] be [12:30] very [12:30] clear, [12:31] the [12:31] prosecution [12:31] does [12:32] intend [12:32] to [12:32] present [12:33] a [12:33] full [12:33] picture [12:34] of [12:34] what [12:35] happened [12:35] with [12:35] the [12:35] funds. [12:36] So [12:36] as [12:38] for [12:38] which [12:38] elements [12:39] would [12:39] be [12:39] testified [12:40] by [12:40] whom, [12:41] we [12:41] have [12:41] to [12:41] wait [12:41] for [12:41] the [12:42] actual [12:42] calling [12:42] of [12:42] the [12:42] witness. [12:43] Thank [13:19] I can [13:19] say [13:20] is [13:20] dapat [13:21] siguro [13:22] isang [13:23] pina [13:23] natin [13:23] yan [13:24] para [13:24] makilala [13:25] natin [13:25] dahil [13:25] umiikot [13:26] yung [13:26] controversy [13:27] dyan [13:27] sa [13:27] pangalang [13:28] yan [13:28] especially [13:29] ito [13:29] kay [13:29] Mary [13:30] Grace [13:30] Piatos. [13:30] It's [13:32] high [13:32] time [13:32] probably [13:33] that [13:33] lumabas [13:35] siya [13:35] at [13:38] magpakilala. [13:39] So [13:39] sa [13:40] aking [13:40] personal [13:42] opinion [13:43] dapat [13:43] nararapat [13:44] lamang [13:44] na [13:45] isang [13:45] pina [13:45] siya. [13:47] Last [13:48] lang [13:48] kung [13:48] kanina [13:48] mo rin [13:49] sa [13:49] trial [13:49] ng [13:49] bangit [13:49] na [13:50] yung [13:50] ilang [13:51] part [13:51] of [13:51] the [13:52] confidential [13:52] funds [13:52] were [13:53] used [13:53] sa [13:54] MOE [13:55] considering [13:56] na [13:56] ang [13:56] mga [13:57] congressman [13:57] and [13:57] even [13:58] the [13:58] office [13:59] of [13:59] the [13:59] vice [13:59] president [14:00] merong [14:00] ganong [14:00] budget. [14:01] Is it [14:02] a clear [14:02] sign [14:03] ban [14:03] na [14:03] yung [14:04] pondo [14:04] hindi [14:04] talaga [14:05] nagamit [14:05] sa [14:05] tama [14:05] kasi [14:06] may [14:06] nakalaang [14:06] pondo [14:07] sa [14:07] MOE [14:09] pero [14:09] bakit [14:10] pa [14:10] niya [14:10] nilagyan [14:10] ng [14:11] confidential [14:11] funds? [14:12] Well [14:12] ako [14:13] una [14:13] dalawang [14:14] beses [14:15] nangyari [14:15] na [14:15] kung [14:16] saan [14:16] MOE [14:17] yung [14:17] isinabmit [14:18] na [14:19] liquidation [14:19] and [14:20] this [14:21] is [14:21] in [14:21] clear [14:22] violation [14:22] of [14:23] the [14:23] provisions [14:23] of [14:24] the [14:24] joint [14:24] circular [14:25] dahil [14:25] nakalagay [14:26] naman [14:26] doon [14:27] sa [14:27] joint [14:27] circular [14:27] kung [14:28] ano [14:28] lang [14:28] yung [14:28] dapat [14:29] pagkagastusan [14:30] ng [14:30] confidential [14:31] fund [14:31] and [14:32] MOE [14:33] is not [14:34] included [14:34] in that [14:35] list [14:35] so [14:36] again [14:36] bakit [14:37] sinabi [14:37] dito [14:37] hindi [14:37] pwedeng [14:38] isipin [14:38] na [14:39] ito [14:39] ay [14:39] isang [14:39] oversight [14:40] lang [14:40] dahil [14:41] nagkamali [14:42] pero [14:43] dahil [14:43] there [14:44] seems [14:44] to be [14:44] a [14:45] pattern [14:45] dahil [14:46] dalawa [14:46] tatlong [14:46] beses [14:47] na [14:47] isubmit [14:48] na [14:48] MOE [14:49] kasama [14:49] doon [14:50] sa [14:50] kanilang [14:50] justification [14:51] so [14:51] merong [14:53] irregular [14:56] at [14:57] merong [14:58] highly [14:59] questionable [15:00] dyan [15:01] sa [15:01] liquidation [15:03] na yan [15:03] in addition [15:05] to that [15:05] lang po [15:05] we can [15:06] only [15:06] speak [15:06] as to [15:07] what [15:07] was [15:07] testified [15:07] kanina [15:08] and [15:08] claro [15:08] naman [15:09] po [15:09] na [15:09] sinabi [15:09] ng [15:09] testigo [15:10] and [15:10] according [15:11] to [15:11] the [15:11] testimony [15:11] that [15:12] that [15:12] was [15:12] considered [15:13] irregular [15:13] po [15:13] having [15:14] justified [15:16] the use [15:16] of [15:16] confidential [15:17] funds [15:17] for [15:17] MOE [15:18] but [15:18] that [15:18] is [15:18] not [15:19] to [15:19] say [15:19] that [15:19] we [15:19] can [15:19] characterize [15:20] yet [15:20] as [15:20] to [15:21] how [15:21] an [15:21] MOE [15:21] is [15:22] spent [15:22] it's [15:22] a [15:22] different [15:22] thing [15:23] but [15:23] we're [15:23] just [15:23] focusing [15:23] here [15:24] on [15:24] confidential [15:24] funds [15:25] the [15:25] fact [15:26] that [15:26] it [15:26] was [15:26] irregular [15:27] you [15:27] know [15:27] malinaw [15:29] na [15:30] merong [15:31] isinubmit [15:34] o isinumite [15:34] ng mga [15:35] dokumento [15:36] to justify [15:36] the [15:37] expenditure [15:38] or the [15:38] disbursement [15:39] na hindi [15:40] angkop [15:40] o hindi [15:41] sangayon [15:41] dun sa [15:42] provisyon [15:42] ng joint [15:43] circular [15:43] so [15:44] I don't [15:45] know [15:45] how else [15:46] we can [15:46] call it [15:47] it can [15:47] be called [15:48] irregular [15:49] it can [15:49] also be [15:50] called [15:50] perhaps [15:51] illegal [15:51] so [15:52] that's [15:53] the way [15:53] the [15:54] witness [15:55] described [15:57] what he [15:59] discovered [15:59] in these [16:00] documents [16:00] that was [16:01] submitted [16:01] to the [16:02] ICOA [16:04] thank you [16:05] I say [16:05] Rosalie [16:06] our turn [16:07] may we [16:09] know [16:10] kung [16:10] ano [16:10] yung [16:10] current [16:11] position [16:11] ng [16:11] house [16:12] prosecution [16:12] team [16:13] regarding [16:14] Mary [16:14] Grace [16:15] Piatos [16:15] kasi [16:16] isa [16:16] po [16:16] siya [16:16] dun [16:16] sa [16:16] 27 [16:17] na [16:17] proposed [16:18] witnesses [16:18] nyo [16:18] para [16:19] dito [16:19] sa [16:19] article [16:20] 1 [16:20] pero [16:21] kahapon [16:21] sabi [16:22] po [16:22] ni [16:22] representative [16:22] Joel [16:23] Chua [16:23] kung [16:23] siya [16:23] yung [16:23] tatanungin [16:24] personally [16:25] di [16:26] na [16:26] niya [16:26] gustong [16:26] iharap [16:27] pa [16:27] or [16:27] ipatawag [16:28] si [16:28] Mary [16:28] Grace [16:28] Piatos [16:29] sa [16:29] paglilitis [16:29] but [16:29] this [16:30] morning [16:30] sa [16:31] ambush [16:31] interview [16:32] kay [16:32] attorney [16:32] Capunan [16:33] sinabi [16:33] niya [16:33] po [16:34] na [16:34] isa [16:34] sa [16:34] Pina [16:35] po [16:35] nga [16:35] si [16:35] Mary [16:35] Grace [16:36] Piatos [16:36] hinahanap [16:37] pa [16:37] namin [16:38] hindi [16:38] namin [16:38] makita [16:38] kung [16:39] saan [16:39] saan [16:39] Mary [16:40] Grace [16:40] na [16:40] pumunta [16:41] hindi [16:41] namin [16:41] makita [16:42] papadala [16:42] namin [16:42] sa [16:43] office [16:43] of [16:43] the [16:43] vice [16:44] president [16:44] yung [16:44] sa [16:44] Pina [16:45] so [16:45] ano [16:46] po [16:46] ba [16:46] ang [16:46] current [16:47] position [16:47] po [16:47] na [16:48] prosecution [16:48] team [16:48] dito [16:49] kay [16:49] Mary [16:49] Grace [16:50] Piatos [16:50] I'm [16:51] sorry [16:52] again [16:52] on behalf [16:52] of the [16:52] prosecution [16:53] we cannot [16:53] disclose [16:54] the formal [16:54] plan [16:55] po [16:55] the [16:55] final [16:56] plan [16:56] I [16:56] think [16:57] just [16:57] goes [16:57] to [16:57] show [16:57] po [16:57] it's [16:58] a [16:58] very [16:59] lively [16:59] discussion [17:00] even [17:00] between [17:00] members [17:01] of the [17:01] prosecution [17:02] but [17:04] all [17:04] that [17:04] we [17:04] can [17:04] say [17:05] siguro [17:05] is [17:05] that [17:06] it [17:06] just [17:06] speaks [17:07] of [17:07] how [17:07] important [17:08] the [17:08] question [17:08] is [17:08] sino [17:09] yung [17:09] tumanggap [17:09] that's [17:10] one [17:10] of [17:10] the [17:10] core [17:11] principles [17:11] here [17:11] that [17:11] we're [17:11] looking [17:12] at [17:12] sino [17:13] tumanggap [17:14] kailan [17:14] tinanggap [17:15] para saan [17:15] ginamit [17:16] these are [17:16] the [17:16] questions [17:17] that [17:17] we're [17:17] trying [17:17] to [17:17] answer [17:17] with [17:18] the [17:18] choice [17:19] of [17:19] our [17:19] witnesses [17:20] so [17:20] I [17:21] think [17:21] it [17:22] goes [17:22] to [17:22] show [17:22] like [17:22] if [17:22] we [17:23] think [17:23] about [17:23] it [17:23] kung [17:23] sino [17:24] si [17:24] Mary [17:24] Grace [17:24] Piatos [17:25] what [17:26] they [17:26] can [17:26] testify [17:27] to [17:27] that [17:27] speaks [17:28] as [17:28] to [17:28] one [17:28] of [17:28] the [17:28] questions [17:28] so [17:29] definitely [17:29] it's [17:30] still [17:30] at [17:31] play [17:32] but [17:32] whether [17:32] or [17:33] not [17:33] sorry [17:41] yung [17:42] diskusyon [17:43] tungkol [17:44] sa [17:44] mga [17:44] strategy [17:46] na [17:46] dapat [17:47] gawin [17:47] ng [17:47] prosecution [17:48] panel [17:48] in fact [17:48] para [17:49] lang [17:49] sa [17:49] kaalaman [17:50] ng [17:50] lahat [17:50] bawat [17:51] hakbang [17:52] na ginagawa [17:53] ng ating [17:54] prosecution [17:54] team [17:55] lahat po [17:55] yan [17:56] ay pinag-uusapan [17:57] they [17:58] consider [17:59] opinions [17:59] of all [18:00] other [18:00] members [18:02] of the [18:02] hindi [18:03] ho yan [18:03] decision [18:04] ng [18:04] isa [18:04] dalawa [18:05] o [18:05] ng [18:06] ilang [18:06] tao [18:07] lamang [18:07] kundi [18:08] ito [18:08] ay [18:08] consensus [18:09] ng [18:10] mayurian [18:11] ng [18:11] member [18:12] ng [18:12] prosecution [18:13] team [18:13] will [18:15] still [18:15] will [18:16] her [18:17] testimony [18:18] his [18:18] or her [18:19] testimony [18:19] still be [18:20] relevant [18:21] at this [18:21] point [18:21] in [18:21] time [18:22] given [18:22] that [18:22] may [18:23] mga [18:23] findings [18:23] na nga [18:24] po [18:24] yung [18:24] ko [18:24] meron [18:25] na [18:25] nga [18:25] rin [18:25] notice [18:26] of [18:26] this [18:26] allowance [18:27] na [18:27] currently [18:27] ina [18:28] appeal [18:28] ng [18:29] OVP [18:30] well [18:31] again [18:32] without [18:32] speaking [18:33] into [18:33] whether [18:33] or [18:34] not [18:34] we [18:35] cannot [18:35] characterize [18:36] it [18:37] fully [18:37] but [18:38] like [18:39] I [18:39] mentioned [18:39] a while [18:39] ago [18:40] that [18:41] additional [18:42] testimony [18:42] would [18:42] tend [18:43] to answer [18:43] that [18:44] question [18:44] po [18:44] no [18:45] kung [18:45] para [18:45] san [18:45] ginamit [18:46] for [18:46] example [18:46] or [18:47] kung [18:47] sino [18:47] nga [18:47] tumanggap [18:48] but [18:48] at the [18:50] same [18:50] time [18:50] the [18:51] ultimate [18:51] arbiter [18:52] of [18:52] its [18:52] acceptance [18:53] or [18:53] relevance [18:54] as you [18:54] were [18:54] asking [18:54] would [18:55] be [18:55] the [18:55] impeachment [18:55] court [18:56] so [18:56] we [18:56] have [18:56] to [18:56] leave [18:56] it [18:56] to [18:57] them [18:57] po [18:57] second [19:00] second [19:00] issue [19:00] regarding [19:01] regarding [19:01] po [19:01] sa [19:01] nabuksan [19:02] kanina [19:03] regarding [19:04] po [19:04] sa [19:04] ginawang [19:05] meeting [19:05] sa [19:06] ICFAO [19:07] office [19:07] po [19:07] with [19:08] attorney [19:08] Soleika [19:09] Lopez [19:09] attorney [19:10] Michael [19:10] Poa [19:11] and [19:11] Roderick [19:13] Wamil [19:14] Ano pong [19:14] significance [19:15] nun [19:15] sa pagkakalantad [19:18] na may [19:18] gano'n palang [19:18] meeting [19:19] Well [19:20] yung [19:20] meeting [19:21] yun [19:21] klarong [19:21] klaro [19:22] na [19:22] sinabi [19:22] ni [19:22] Mr. [19:23] Wamil [19:23] na [19:23] nagtanong [19:24] ang [19:25] office [19:25] of [19:25] the [19:25] vice [19:26] president [19:26] represented [19:27] by [19:27] attorney [19:28] Soleika [19:28] Lopez [19:29] and [19:29] attorney [19:30] Michael [19:31] Poa [19:31] nagtanong [19:32] sila [19:32] paano [19:32] naliliquidate [19:33] ano yung [19:34] mga [19:34] requirements [19:35] in the [19:35] liquidation [19:36] of the [19:37] confidential [19:37] and [19:38] intelligence [19:38] funds [19:39] yun [19:40] ang [19:40] napag-usapan [19:41] yun [19:41] ang [19:41] meet [19:42] nung [19:42] kanilang [19:45] para sa akin [19:45] I'm [19:46] surprised [19:46] na [19:46] sinabi [19:47] naman [19:47] siguro [19:47] malamang [19:48] kung ano [19:51] yung [19:52] pamantayan [19:53] o [19:53] ano yung [19:53] panuntunan [19:55] dun sa [19:55] pag [19:55] dequidate [19:56] nitong [19:56] pondong [19:57] ito [19:57] pero [19:58] mukhang [19:58] hindi [19:58] pa rin [19:59] nasunod [19:59] In fact [20:00] they were [20:01] given [20:01] several [20:01] chances [20:03] First [20:04] nung [20:05] nag-submit [20:06] sila [20:07] ng dokumento [20:07] binigyan [20:08] sila [20:08] ng [20:08] AOM [20:10] nag-submit [20:11] sila [20:11] ulit [20:11] ng [20:11] pangalawang [20:12] set [20:13] of [20:13] documents [20:14] to [20:14] justify [20:15] the [20:15] disbursement [20:16] and still [20:17] may kakulangan [20:18] pa rin [20:18] insufficient [20:19] pa rin [20:20] yung [20:20] kanilang [20:20] sinubmit [20:21] kaya [20:21] nga [20:21] nagkaroon [20:22] ng [20:22] notice [20:22] of [20:23] suspension [20:23] na [20:25] in order [20:25] ang [20:25] COA [20:26] so that [20:27] they will [20:27] be [20:27] given [20:28] more [20:28] time [20:28] to [20:29] submit [20:30] the [20:31] documents [20:31] necessary [20:32] para [20:33] ma [20:33] liquidate [20:34] ng [20:34] tama [20:35] itong [20:35] pondong [20:35] ito [20:38] Sorry [20:38] last [20:38] on that [20:38] na lang [20:39] po [20:39] sa inyo [20:40] po ba [20:40] questionable [20:41] po yung [20:42] meeting [20:42] na yun [20:43] especially [20:43] that [20:44] meron [20:44] pong [20:44] na [20:44] mention [20:44] na [20:45] instead [20:46] of [20:46] AOM [20:47] audit [20:50] query [20:51] na lang [20:51] po yung [20:52] ibigay [20:53] ng [20:53] COA [20:53] sa [20:54] kanila [20:54] po [20:54] next [20:54] time [20:55] sa [20:57] tingin [20:57] ko [20:57] nothing [20:58] irregular [21:00] doon [21:00] kasi [21:00] marami [21:01] namang [21:01] mga [21:01] ahensya [21:02] na [21:02] merong [21:03] gumagamit [21:04] ng mga [21:05] intelligence [21:05] and confidential [21:06] funds [21:07] na [21:07] pwedeng [21:07] magtanong [21:08] at any [21:08] given [21:09] time [21:09] they [21:09] can [21:09] ask [21:10] the [21:10] agency [21:11] concerned [21:13] na [21:13] merong [21:14] mandato [21:14] para [21:15] magbigay [21:16] ng [21:17] assistance [21:18] o [21:19] ng [21:19] information [21:20] kung [21:21] papano [21:21] nililiquidate [21:23] ito [21:23] so I [21:23] don't [21:24] see [21:24] anything [21:24] irregular [21:25] with [21:25] the [21:25] meeting [21:26] pero [21:28] kung [21:28] ini-influenza [21:29] halimbawa [21:30] nung [21:31] meeting [21:31] na yun [21:31] na [21:32] instead [21:33] of [21:34] AOM [21:35] i-dismiss [21:37] na lang [21:37] or [21:37] something [21:38] that's [21:38] a big [21:38] question [21:39] mark [21:39] wala [21:39] namang [21:40] ganong [21:40] nangyari [21:40] All right [21:44] thanks [21:44] Rosary [21:46] si [21:46] God [21:46] Sir [21:51] sa dalawang [21:51] follow-up [21:51] dun sa [21:52] tanong [21:52] ni [21:52] Ate [21:52] Rose [21:52] Una yung [21:53] sa [21:54] comments [21:55] ni [21:55] Atty [21:56] Lord [21:56] Nakapunan [21:57] could you [21:57] take it [21:57] as [21:58] parang [21:58] dahil [21:59] counsel [22:00] sila [22:00] for the [22:00] prosecution [22:01] they are [22:03] still under [22:03] the control [22:04] of the [22:04] prosecution [22:04] team [22:05] so [22:05] any [22:05] decision [22:05] would [22:06] come [22:07] from [22:07] the [22:08] public [22:09] prosecutors [22:09] ganun [22:10] po ba [22:10] yan [22:10] Yes [22:11] that's [22:11] how [22:11] this [22:12] works [22:12] po [22:12] naman [22:12] po [22:12] being [22:13] members [22:14] of [22:14] the [22:14] panel [22:14] of [22:14] the [22:14] prosecutors [22:15] the [22:17] control [22:18] but [22:18] that's [22:19] not [22:19] to [22:19] say [22:19] that [22:19] even [22:19] within [22:20] the [22:20] panel [22:20] we [22:20] have [22:20] different [22:21] opinions [22:21] po [22:21] on [22:22] how [22:22] we [22:22] will [22:22] approach [22:23] our [22:23] witness [22:23] up [22:24] to [22:24] the [22:24] point [22:24] nga [22:24] po [22:24] na [22:25] even [22:25] up [22:25] to [22:25] the [22:25] day [22:26] before [22:26] the [22:26] presentation [22:26] of [22:27] the [22:27] witness [22:27] we [22:27] might [22:27] actually [22:28] change [22:28] our [22:28] mind [22:28] as [22:29] a [22:29] group [22:29] so [22:30] I [22:30] don't [22:30] think [22:31] it [22:31] has [22:31] any [22:31] bearing [22:31] whether [22:32] one [22:32] is [22:33] private [22:33] or [22:33] public [22:33] because [22:34] we [22:34] talk [22:34] about [22:34] as [22:34] a [22:34] team [22:34] Sir [22:36] regarding [22:48] some [22:49] members [22:49] of [22:49] the [22:49] prosecution [22:50] panel [22:50] na [22:51] yung [22:51] ibang [22:51] abogado [22:52] ni [22:52] VP [22:52] Sara [22:53] involved [22:54] dun sa [22:55] mga [22:55] issues [22:55] na [22:56] dinidiscuss [22:57] Doon sa [23:01] konteksto [23:03] ng [23:03] meeting [23:03] sa aking [23:04] palagay [23:05] wala namang [23:06] ang [23:07] involvement [23:07] lang nila [23:08] doon [23:08] ay nagtanong [23:09] sila [23:09] kung [23:09] papaano [23:10] and [23:11] there's [23:11] nothing [23:12] perhaps [23:12] irregular [23:13] about [23:13] that [23:14] because [23:14] they can [23:15] inquire [23:16] naman [23:16] talaga [23:16] pero [23:18] pagka [23:19] ang [23:19] usapin [23:19] ay tungkol [23:20] sa [23:20] pag [23:20] halimbawa [23:21] ipinilit [23:22] na [23:23] imbis [23:23] na [23:23] AOM [23:24] ang [23:25] inyong [23:25] i-issue [23:26] ay dapat [23:26] ang inyong [23:27] i-issue [23:28] ay dismissal [23:29] or [23:29] whatever [23:30] it is [23:31] under [23:31] the [23:31] rules [23:32] siguro [23:33] ibang [23:34] usapan [23:34] yun [23:34] nothing [23:35] similar [23:37] to that [23:38] that [23:38] happened [23:39] in that [23:39] meeting [23:40] pero Sir [23:40] kasi [23:41] yung request [23:41] ng [23:42] sabi ni [23:43] auditor [23:45] Wamil [23:46] ang sabi niya [23:47] ang request [23:47] was [23:48] an audit [23:49] query [23:49] which [23:50] he said [23:51] was [23:51] not [23:51] included [23:52] among [23:52] the [23:52] wala siya [23:53] sa menu [23:54] of [23:54] options [23:54] hindi siya [23:55] notice of [23:56] disallowance [23:56] hindi siya [23:57] AOM [23:57] hindi ba [23:58] irregular [23:59] nakagad [23:59] yun sir [24:00] kasi [24:00] they were [24:00] asking [24:01] for [24:01] something [24:01] that [24:02] was [24:02] not [24:02] inside [24:03] what [24:04] the [24:04] joint [24:05] circular [24:05] provides [24:06] yes [24:07] yes [24:08] it is [24:11] outside [24:12] of [24:12] the [24:13] provisions [24:14] of [24:14] the [24:15] joint [24:15] circular [24:15] baka [24:17] merong [24:18] question [24:18] mark [24:18] but [24:19] again [24:19] sabi ko [24:20] nga [24:20] baka [24:21] napapag [24:21] usapan [24:22] lang [24:22] there [24:22] was [24:22] no [24:23] perhaps [24:24] action [24:25] or [24:25] maybe [24:26] a [24:26] request [24:27] to [24:28] really [24:28] change [24:30] the [24:30] findings [24:31] of [24:31] the [24:31] audit [24:32] findings [24:32] of [24:33] Mr. [24:33] Wamil [24:33] absent [24:36] that [24:36] we cannot [24:37] conclude [24:37] nor [24:38] even [24:38] perhaps [24:39] even [24:40] say [24:40] na [24:40] merong [24:41] anomaly [24:42] or [24:43] irregular [24:43] na [24:43] nangyari [24:44] Sir [24:45] yung [24:46] testimony [24:46] ni [24:47] Attorney [24:48] Wamil [24:49] towards [24:49] the end [24:50] hindi ko [24:51] sure [24:51] kung tama [24:52] kung [24:52] verbatim [24:53] yung [24:53] pagkakaalala [24:54] ko [24:54] pero may [24:54] sinabi [24:55] siya [24:55] something [24:55] to the [24:55] effect [24:56] that [24:56] there [24:56] is a [24:57] presumption [24:57] that [24:58] the [24:58] funds [24:59] were [24:59] missing [25:00] and [25:00] have [25:01] been [25:01] used [25:02] for [25:03] other [25:03] purposes [25:04] does [25:04] that [25:04] strengthen [25:05] not [25:06] only [25:06] yung [25:06] sa [25:06] confidential [25:07] fund [25:08] issue [25:08] but [25:08] also [25:09] the [25:09] unexplained [25:09] wealth [25:10] accusations [25:11] I do [25:19] believe [25:19] that [25:19] as [25:20] per [25:20] the [25:20] witnesses [25:21] testimony [25:21] what [25:22] your [25:22] recollection [25:24] is [25:25] correct [25:25] but [25:26] as [25:26] to [25:26] how [25:27] that [25:27] would [25:27] be [25:27] taken [25:27] as [25:28] a [25:28] whole [25:29] together [25:29] with [25:29] the [25:29] other [25:30] pieces [25:30] of [25:30] evidence [25:31] we [25:31] have [25:31] to [25:31] submit [25:32] to [25:33] the [25:33] impeachment [25:34] court [25:34] that [25:35] would [25:35] properly [25:35] characterize [25:36] how to [25:36] take [25:36] it [25:36] all [25:36] together [25:37] I'm [25:38] sorry [25:38] it [25:39] goes [25:39] with [25:39] a lot [25:40] of [25:40] the [25:40] questions [25:40] today [25:40] I [25:41] understand [25:41] there's [25:41] a lot [25:41] of [25:41] questions [25:42] about [25:42] the [25:42] technicalities [25:43] and [25:43] I [25:43] can [25:43] only [25:44] answer [25:44] insofar [25:44] as [25:45] they [25:45] were [25:45] testified [25:46] too [25:46] but [25:47] what [25:47] I [25:47] can [25:47] say [25:47] is [25:48] you [25:48] are [25:49] asking [25:49] the [25:49] right [25:49] questions [25:50] correct [25:52] and [25:53] the [25:53] right [25:53] answers [25:53] will [25:54] come [25:54] soon [25:55] yun [26:01] po [26:01] bang [26:01] paggamit [26:02] ng [26:02] ALGAS [26:02] confidential [26:04] funds [26:04] is [26:04] irregular [26:05] illegal [26:07] kasi [26:09] di ba [26:10] yun [26:10] ang [26:10] pinaka [26:10] mga [26:11] punto [26:11] Mary [26:12] Gris [26:12] Piatos [26:13] Andy [26:14] Lim [26:14] Pati [26:17] T [26:17] base [26:18] sa [26:18] dokumentong [26:19] kanilang [26:19] isinumit [26:20] doon [26:22] sa [26:22] COA [26:22] the [26:25] auditors [26:26] found [26:26] something [26:27] irregular [26:28] and [26:30] perhaps [26:30] even [26:30] illegal [26:31] base [26:32] sa [26:32] kanyang [26:32] audit [26:33] findings [26:34] so [26:35] ito [26:36] ay [26:36] sangayon [26:38] doon [26:39] sa [26:39] rules [26:40] o hindi [26:41] kaya [26:41] doon [26:41] sa [26:42] provision [26:42] ng [26:42] joint [26:44] circular [26:45] na kung [26:46] saan [26:46] e yun [26:47] ang [26:47] dapat [26:47] sinusunod [26:48] ng mga [26:49] ahensyang [26:49] gumagamit [26:50] ng [26:50] confidential [26:51] funds [26:51] sa [26:51] pag [26:52] liquidate [26:53] nila [26:53] o [26:53] pag [26:54] gastos [26:54] nila [26:54] ng [26:55] pondong [26:55] yan [26:55] So [26:56] kailangan [26:56] po [26:56] yung [26:57] totoong [26:57] pangalan [26:58] nung [26:58] tao [26:58] na [26:59] tumanggap [27:00] ng [27:00] reward [27:00] binayaran [27:01] dun [27:01] sa [27:02] information [27:03] No [27:04] not [27:05] necessarily [27:06] they can [27:06] use [27:07] other [27:07] names [27:07] pero [27:09] may [27:10] kaakibat [27:10] na report [27:11] yan [27:11] halimbawa [27:13] ginamit [27:13] si Mickey [27:14] Mouse [27:14] dahil [27:15] si Mickey [27:16] Mouse [27:16] ay [27:16] merong [27:17] informasyon [27:18] tungkol [27:18] sa [27:19] mga [27:19] terorista [27:20] na [27:20] nakatira [27:20] sa [27:21] isang [27:22] lugar [27:23] at [27:23] kailangan [27:24] kumuha [27:24] ng [27:25] informasyon [27:25] tungkol [27:26] sa [27:26] organisasyon [27:28] ng [27:28] mga [27:28] terorista [27:29] sa [27:29] lugar [27:30] na yan [27:31] then [27:31] pwede [27:32] siyang [27:33] gumamit [27:34] ng [27:35] ibang [27:35] pangalan [27:35] dahil [27:36] siya [27:36] naman [27:36] ang [27:37] malalagay [27:38] sa [27:38] alanghani [27:39] pag [27:39] naibunyag [27:41] yung [27:41] kanyang [27:41] totoong [27:42] circumstances [27:44] lalo na [27:45] yung [27:45] kanyang [27:45] pangalan [27:46] So [27:46] dun po [27:46] sa [27:46] paggamit [27:47] ng [27:47] LSS [27:48] per se [27:48] wala [27:49] pong [27:49] irregular [27:49] and [27:50] illegal [27:50] Well [27:51] ang gumagamit [27:52] kasi nyan [27:52] mga [27:53] military [27:53] mga [27:54] PNP [27:54] all law [27:55] enforcement [27:55] agents [27:56] ginagamit [27:56] naman [27:57] talaga [27:57] yan [27:57] to [27:58] secure [27:59] an [27:59] intelligence [28:00] report [28:00] that [28:01] can be [28:02] used [28:02] for [28:03] one [28:04] to [28:04] protect [28:05] the [28:05] national [28:06] interest [28:06] and [28:07] the [28:08] security [28:09] of [28:09] the [28:09] country [28:10] and [28:10] of [28:10] course [28:10] for [28:11] peace [28:11] and [28:11] order [28:12] purposes [28:12] importante [28:13] yun [28:13] kaya [28:15] minsan [28:16] nalalagay [28:16] sa [28:17] alanganin [28:17] ang buhay [28:18] ng [28:18] ibang [28:19] agent [28:20] because [28:21] pag [28:22] na-expose [28:22] sila [28:23] Sabi po [28:24] halatang [28:25] sinisigil [28:26] out [28:26] daw [28:26] si [28:26] VP [28:27] Sara [28:27] dito [28:28] sa [28:28] usapin [28:29] ng [28:29] confidential [28:30] fans [28:31] ng [28:31] OVP [28:31] at [28:31] DepEd [28:32] yung [28:34] pong [28:34] pag [28:35] bulatlat [28:35] ng [28:36] kanyang [28:36] CF [28:37] sa [28:37] nasabing [28:38] mga [28:39] ahensya [28:39] ay [28:40] pwedeng [28:44] president [28:45] para [28:46] doon [28:47] sa [28:47] iba [28:47] pang [28:48] mga [28:48] government [28:49] agencies [28:50] ang [28:51] hamon [28:51] po [28:52] kasi [28:52] ni [28:52] Atty. [28:53] Kapunan [28:54] pwedeng [28:55] mag-file [28:55] ng [28:56] kaso [28:57] o [28:57] reklamo [28:57] against [28:58] doon [28:58] sa mga [28:59] iba [28:59] pang [28:59] government [29:00] agencies [29:00] na [29:00] merong [29:00] confidential [29:01] funds [29:01] like [29:02] the [29:02] office [29:03] of [29:03] the [29:03] president [29:04] na [29:04] sinasabing [29:05] billions [29:05] of [29:06] pesos [29:07] yung [29:07] kanyang [29:07] confi [29:08] funds [29:08] Well, [29:08] ang malinaw [29:09] dito [29:09] dapat [29:10] kung [29:10] sino [29:10] man [29:11] yung [29:11] gumagamit [29:12] o gumagasta [29:13] ng [29:13] ating [29:14] confidential [29:14] funds [29:15] dapat [29:16] sumunod [29:16] sa mga [29:17] panuntunan. [29:18] Ito [29:18] yung [29:19] malinaw [29:19] na nakasaad [29:20] dyan [29:20] sa [29:21] joint [29:22] circular [29:22] and [29:23] because [29:23] of [29:23] that [29:24] hindi [29:24] dapat [29:25] magkamali. [29:26] Dito [29:26] naman [29:27] sa usapin [29:27] na [29:27] sinisingle [29:28] out [29:28] hindi [29:28] ho [29:29] totoo [29:29] yan. [29:30] Bakit? [29:31] Lahat [29:31] naman [29:31] po [29:31] yang [29:32] inilabas [29:32] sa audit [29:33] report [29:33] o [29:34] doon [29:34] sa [29:34] findings [29:35] ng [29:35] COA [29:35] e [29:36] submission [29:36] po [29:36] yan [29:37] ng [29:37] Office [29:37] of the [29:37] Vice [29:38] President [29:38] at [29:39] submission [29:39] ng [29:39] mga [29:40] tao [29:40] ng [29:40] ating [29:41] pangalawang [29:42] Pangulo. [29:42] So [29:43] bakit [29:43] sinasabing [29:44] single out? [29:45] Dahil [29:45] lahat [29:46] po [29:46] yan [29:46] mga [29:46] ebidensyang [29:47] yan [29:47] e [29:48] nanggaling [29:48] ho [29:48] sa [29:48] kanila. [29:49] Kaya [29:50] nga [29:50] sa [29:51] aming [29:51] pananaw [29:52] maraming [29:54] ingay [29:54] napapaloob [29:55] dito [29:55] sa usaping [29:56] ito [29:56] that [29:57] what [29:57] is [29:57] important [29:58] ay [29:59] yung [29:59] ebidensya. [30:01] Kahit [30:01] saan [30:01] nila [30:02] tingnan [30:02] kahit [30:02] anumang [30:03] ingay [30:03] marinig [30:03] natin [30:04] sa [30:04] labas [30:04] politika [30:05] man [30:05] o [30:05] hindi [30:05] politika [30:06] what [30:07] is [30:07] important [30:08] e [30:08] kung [30:08] ano [30:09] yung [30:09] sinasabi [30:09] ng [30:09] ebidensya [30:10] dahil [30:10] yan [30:10] ang [30:11] mahalaga [30:11] para [30:11] sa [30:12] paglilitis [30:12] na [30:13] ito. [30:13] Last [30:13] question [30:14] ko [30:14] na [30:14] po. [30:14] So [30:14] yung [30:15] hamon [30:15] po [30:15] ni [30:15] Atornica [30:16] Puna [30:16] na [30:16] magfile [30:17] ng [30:17] kaso [30:18] o [30:18] reklamo [30:18] against [30:19] dun [30:20] sa [30:20] iba [30:20] pang [30:20] mga [30:20] government [30:21] agencies [30:21] with [30:22] CF [30:22] especially [30:32] kasi [30:33] nga [30:33] sinasabi [30:34] nga [30:34] lahat [30:35] naman [30:35] e [30:36] kung [30:36] merong [30:37] pagkakamali [30:37] merong [30:38] paglabag [30:38] sa ating [30:39] batas [30:39] paglabag [30:40] sa ating [30:40] joint [30:40] circular [30:41] e [30:41] dapat [30:41] i-reklamo [30:42] diba [30:43] kung [30:43] merong [30:43] kayong [30:43] nalalaman [30:44] i-reklamo [30:45] natin [30:45] yun [30:45] dahil [30:45] ito [30:46] ay [30:46] pera [30:46] ng [30:46] taong [30:47] bayan [30:47] bawat [30:48] piso [30:49] rito [30:49] dapat [30:49] all [30:49] accounted [30:50] for [30:50] let's [30:51] not [30:52] allow [30:53] officials [30:54] of this [30:54] government [30:55] to [30:55] waste [30:55] the [30:57] public [30:58] funds [30:59] ng [30:59] galing [30:59] sa ating [31:00] buwis [31:01] so yan [31:02] ang [31:02] aking [31:03] paniwala [31:03] kaya [31:04] ang [31:04] on trial [31:05] dito [31:06] ay hindi [31:06] naman [31:06] yung [31:07] ibang [31:07] ahensya [31:07] ang [31:08] on trial [31:08] dito [31:09] ay [31:09] ang [31:09] ating [31:10] pangalawang [31:11] pangulo [31:12] at [31:13] ang [31:13] kanilang [31:13] mga [31:14] isinumite [31:14] ng [31:14] mga [31:15] dokumento [31:16] to [31:17] justify [31:17] yung [31:18] kanilang [31:18] paggamit [31:19] ng [31:19] pondo [31:19] according [31:20] to [31:21] a [31:21] government [31:21] institution [31:22] yung [31:23] COA [31:23] may [31:24] kakulangan [31:25] insufficient [31:26] at [31:26] meron [31:27] silang [31:27] findings [31:28] this [31:28] could [31:29] be [31:29] irregular [31:29] perhaps [31:31] improper [31:32] or [31:32] illegal [31:34] so [31:34] yun [31:35] ang [31:35] kanilang [31:35] sinabi [31:36] dun [31:37] sa [31:37] kanilang [31:37] report [31:37] and [31:38] I [31:38] think [31:38] si [31:38] congressman [31:41] Gutierrez [31:42] I'm [31:43] sorry [31:44] again [31:44] I [31:45] asked [31:46] the [31:46] earlier [31:47] questions [31:47] I [31:47] just [31:47] wanted [31:47] to [31:48] say [31:48] chairman [31:48] that [31:50] we [31:50] can [31:51] only [31:51] speak [31:51] as [31:51] to [31:51] what [31:51] was [31:52] testified [31:52] just [31:53] to [31:53] go [31:53] back [31:53] we [31:54] can't [31:54] really [31:55] speak [31:55] as [31:55] to [31:55] what [31:56] was [31:56] not [31:56] testified [31:56] to [31:57] so [31:57] we [31:57] have [31:57] to [31:57] take [31:57] the [31:58] testimony [31:58] on [31:58] its [31:58] face [31:59] as [31:59] it [31:59] now [32:00] going [32:00] on [32:00] to [32:00] this [32:00] current [32:01] question [32:01] I [32:02] think [32:03] all [32:03] that [32:03] I [32:03] can [32:03] add [32:04] is [32:04] that [32:04] the [32:06] COA [32:06] is [32:06] an [32:06] independent [32:07] body [32:07] and [32:08] they [32:08] are [32:08] specifically [32:09] empowered [32:10] to do [32:10] precisely [32:11] that [32:11] to [32:11] audit [32:12] so [32:13] actually [32:13] I [32:13] don't [32:13] think [32:14] it [32:14] would [32:14] even [32:14] be [32:14] necessary [32:15] for [32:15] anyone [32:15] to [32:15] file [32:15] a [32:16] complaint [32:16] the [32:16] question [32:17] is [32:17] is [32:17] there [32:18] a [32:18] complaint [32:18] from [32:18] the [32:19] COA [32:19] on [32:20] these [32:20] other [32:21] agencies [32:21] I [32:21] think [32:21] that's [32:22] where [32:22] we [32:22] start [32:22] from [32:23] and [32:23] then [32:23] you [32:23] go [32:23] from [32:23] there [32:23] Kasi [32:26] nga [32:26] kung [32:27] titignan [32:28] natin [32:28] mabuti [32:29] maraming [32:31] mga [32:31] issues [32:32] kagaya [32:32] nung [32:33] fertilizer [32:34] scam [32:35] ano pa [32:37] ba yung [32:37] scam [32:38] na yun [32:38] ito [32:38] may tuturing [32:39] natin [32:40] na isang [32:40] malaking [32:41] confidential [32:42] fund [32:43] scam [32:43] in fact [32:44] lubambas [32:45] nga [32:45] ito [32:45] kanina [32:45] sa pagtatanong [32:46] ni [32:47] attorney [32:49] Kapunan [32:50] that [32:50] this [32:51] can [32:52] be [32:52] likened [32:53] to [32:53] a [32:53] scam [32:54] para [32:55] nga [32:55] sa [32:55] marami [32:56] na [32:57] naiintindihan [32:58] natin [32:58] na [32:59] itong [33:00] paggamit [33:00] ng [33:01] confidential [33:01] fund [33:02] na ito [33:02] dapat [33:03] iginastos [33:05] ito [33:05] sa [33:05] tama [33:05] at [33:07] ito [33:08] ay [33:08] mahigit [33:09] kalahating [33:10] bilyong [33:10] piso [33:11] hindi [33:12] naman [33:12] natin [33:12] sinasabi [33:13] lahat [33:13] yan [33:13] ay [33:13] merong [33:14] malaking [33:15] question [33:15] mark [33:15] pero [33:15] base [33:16] sa [33:16] findings [33:17] ng [33:17] ating [33:17] COA [33:18] na [33:18] kung [33:18] saan [33:19] ang [33:19] mandato [33:20] ay [33:20] i-audit [33:21] yung [33:21] mga [33:22] pondong [33:22] lumalabas [33:23] sa [33:23] gobyerno [33:23] eh [33:24] siguro [33:25] dapat [33:26] eh [33:27] paniwalaan [33:27] natin [33:28] ito [33:28] ito [33:28] ay [33:28] proseso [33:29] ito [33:30] ay [33:30] sang-ayon [33:31] sa mga [33:31] batas [33:31] at [33:32] sang-ayon [33:32] sa [33:32] joint [33:33] circular [33:33] Okay [33:35] dahil [33:35] malapit [33:36] na po [33:36] mag-resume [33:36] muli [33:37] yung [33:37] trial [33:37] we have [33:37] one [33:38] last [33:38] question [33:39] from [33:39] Leneska [33:39] Sir [33:40] what [33:40] does [33:40] it [33:40] say [33:41] lang [33:41] about [33:41] the [33:41] OVP [33:42] under [33:42] the [33:42] vice [33:43] president's [33:43] leadership [33:44] kasi [33:44] three [33:45] consecutive [33:45] quarters [33:46] na [33:46] walang [33:48] documentary [33:49] evidence [33:50] yung [33:50] mga [33:50] sinasubmit [33:51] nilang [33:51] liquidation [33:53] reports [33:53] on [33:53] confidential [33:54] funds [33:55] how do [33:55] you [33:55] characterize [33:56] this [33:56] is this [33:57] irresponsibility [33:58] corruption [33:58] how do [33:59] you [33:59] describe [34:00] it [34:00] as [34:01] testified [34:01] by the [34:02] witness [34:02] personally [34:03] I don't [34:03] want to [34:04] speculate [34:04] nor [34:04] even [34:05] conclude [34:05] something [34:06] kasi [34:06] umpisa [34:07] pa lang [34:07] nakikita [34:08] pa lang [34:08] natin [34:08] na binubuo [34:09] pa lang [34:09] itong [34:10] puzzle [34:10] na ito [34:11] kapag [34:11] nabuo [34:12] na [34:12] perhaps [34:12] that's [34:13] the only [34:13] time [34:13] I [34:15] personally [34:15] can [34:16] conclude [34:16] and [34:17] maybe [34:17] share [34:18] my [34:18] opinion [34:18] on [34:19] the [34:19] issue [34:19] sa [34:20] ngayon [34:20] kasi [34:20] binubuo [34:22] pa lang [34:22] natin [34:22] gaya [34:23] nga [34:24] nung [34:24] lagi [34:24] kong [34:24] nasasabi [34:25] kumbaga [34:26] sa [34:26] basketball [34:27] nasa [34:27] first [34:28] second [34:28] quarter [34:29] pa lang [34:29] tayo [34:30] at [34:30] dahil [34:31] diyan [34:31] marami [34:32] pang [34:32] pwede [34:32] mangyari [34:33] sabi [34:34] nga [34:34] ng [34:34] mga [34:34] basketball [34:35] ista [34:35] bilugan [34:36] bola [34:37] so [34:37] hindi [34:37] ating [34:38] masasabi [34:38] alright [34:42] on that [34:44] note [34:45] pasalamat [34:46] tayo [34:46] sa ating [34:47] mga [34:47] panelists [34:48] ngayon [34:48] kay [34:48] kong [34:48] roch [34:49] at [34:49] kong [34:50] ace [34:50] sa inyo [34:50] mga [34:51] kaibigan [34:51] sa [34:52] media [34:52] sa ating [34:53] mga [34:53] kababayan [34:53] at [34:53] tumututok [34:54] sa ating [34:55] panayam [34:55] at [34:56] sama-sama [34:56] po [34:57] nating [34:57] subaybayan [34:57] ang [34:58] pagpapatuloy [34:59] ng [34:59] impeachment [34:59] trial [35:00] laban [35:01] kay [35:01] Vice [35:01] President [35:02] Sarah [35:02] Duterte [35:03] magandang [35:03] hapon po [35:04] salamat [35:04] sa inyo [35:05] thank you [35:05] thank you [35:06] very much [35:06] lunchtime