House hearing on bills seeking a legislated wage hike — June 30

[0:00] Ito ang P1,200 Living Wage Bill. [0:04] Tugon ito sa panawagan ng mga manggagawang Pilipino. [0:08] Ang wage hike ay hindi dapat PBM, bariya, barat at makunat. [0:16] Hindi katanggap-tanggap ang nangyari noong nakaraang kongreso [0:20] kung saan P200 na minimum wage increase ang pinasa ng dalawang kamera, [0:27] ngunit hindi pinasa sa bycam. [0:29] Kinukundin na natin na ang numero unong humahadlang sa pagtaas ng sahod [0:36] ng mga manggagawa ay ang mismong Administrasyong Marcos Jr., [0:41] particular ang mga economic managers na kinakatigan mismo ng Pangulo. [0:49] Ano ba ang karaniwang ginagawang panakot ng mga economic managers [0:53] laban sa wage hike? [0:57] Una, hindi daw kakayanin ng mga negosyo ang P1,200 per day. [1:02] Magsasara ang mga kumpanya, sabi nila. [1:07] Batay sa pag-aaral ng Ebon Foundation, [1:11] kaya ng mga micro, small and medium enterprises na magpasahod ng P1,200. [1:17] Ang P656 wage gap noon ay katumbas lamang ng 49.1% ng tubo ng mga micro enterprises, [1:27] 42.2% ng profit ng small enterprises at 29.7% ng profits ng medium enterprises. [1:37] Kung ang MSME kaya ibigay ang P1,200 lalot-lalong kaya ng large corporations, [1:46] sa katunayan, 34.6% lang ng P1,6 trillion pesos na tubo ng P4,118 na large corporations [1:58] ang kinakailangan para itaas o dagdagan ng P656 pesos ang sweldo ng P3,200,000 manggagawa. [2:10] Pangalawang argumento, inflationary raw ang wage increase. [2:14] Kung itataas ang sahod, magtataas daw ang presyo ng mga bilihin. [2:20] Panong natin sa kanila, sino bang nagtatakda ng presyo ng mga bilihin? [2:23] Hindi ba't ang mga employer din naman? [2:25] Ang tunay na inflationary ay ang paskiman ng mga kapitalista para sa super tubo. [2:33] Tignan niyo niya na lang ang oil crisis dito sa Pilipinas. [2:37] Hindi naman ito dahil sa wage. [2:39] Tumubo ng bilyon-bilyon ang oil companies mula sa pagdurusa ng taong bayan. [2:44] Pero ang mga ordinaryong manggagawa, tumas ba ang sahod? [2:51] Di ba? Hindi naman. [2:52] Ang problema, kapitalista ang nagtatakda ng presyo ng mga bilihin, [2:56] kapitalista rin ang nagtatakda ng sahod. [2:59] Kaya napapanahon, makatwiran at makatarungan, [3:04] ang panawagang itaas ang minimum na sahod sa 1,200 nationwide. [3:10] Bakit 1,200 nationwide? [3:12] Ito ang tunay na halaga ng nakabubuhay na sahod araw-araw ng manggagawa. [3:19] Huwag po tayong magpa... [3:24] Ito talaga ang kailangan. [3:27] Hindi yung kasalukuyan na national average sa regional wages na 510 pesos. [3:38] Umaabot sa bahigit 700 ang tinatawag na wage gap. [3:44] Batid natin na ang karamihan ang nakafile dito sa kongreso ay 200 pesos na daily wage increase lang. [3:51] Bagaman, napakaliit, halos one-fourth lang ng kinakailangang wage increase para makamit ang 1,200 minimum wage. [4:01] Hindi naman natin tinutunggal ito. [4:03] Ang may mga panukalang yan. [4:05] Pero mananatiling hamon sa ating mga kinatawan at nananatiling panawagan ng mga manggagawa, [4:13] kasama ang mga guro at education personnel, na ang minimum wage ay dapat living wage. [4:22] Kaya muli, sa akin, di taas, presyo, maraming salamat, Mr. Chair. [4:30] Thank you very much, Representative Tino. [4:32] Mr. Chair, a moment lang. [4:34] Deputy Speaker Mendoza. [4:36] Yung National Wages Commission, wala dito? [4:38] I think there's a representative who is... [4:43] Yeah, join us kung pwede. [4:46] Because they're very important. [4:48] You're there. [4:50] Wala kayong... [4:51] Walang nameplate. [4:52] Walang nameplate. [4:54] NLRC? [4:55] Yes. [4:56] Anyway. [4:57] NLRC may rin dito ba? [4:58] Yes, thank you. [4:58] Thank you, Deputy Speaker Mendoza. [5:01] We now move on to our next sponsor, Representative Zendanya, Apakbayin Partilist. [5:10] Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair. [5:11] Maraming salamat po at magandang umaga sa mga kasamahan natin dito sa Komite. [5:16] Magandang umaga po sa mga kasamahan natin sa gobyerno. [5:19] Habang sinasabi ko po na magandang umaga sa atin, [5:22] ay isip ko sigurado na ang milyong-milyong mga Pilipino [5:25] na manggagawa na lumalaban ang patas sa kanilang pamilya [5:29] dahil sa baba ng sweldo at taas ang presyo, [5:32] hindi po maganda ang kanilang umaga. [5:35] Ang malagim na realidad ay nalulunod ang ating mga kababayan [5:38] sa taas presyo ng bilihin. [5:40] Noong 19th Congress, sinabi natin, [5:43] itong 200 peso wage increase, [5:45] ito sana yung salbabida na kailangan nila [5:48] para kahit papano maitawid dun sa pagkalunod sa taas presyo [5:52] ang kanilang mga pamilya. [5:54] Pero ano pong nangyari? [5:56] Nalulunod ang mga kababayan natin, [5:59] nariyan yung 200 peso wage increase sa salbabida, [6:02] pero pinagkait ng administrasyon. [6:05] Tinatay ang 6.8% na ang inflation rate [6:09] at halos dumoble ang presyo ng petrolyo [6:12] dahil sa Middle East crisis. [6:15] Hindi na kayang itawid ng minimum wage [6:17] ang ating manggagawa sa taas ng gustusin araw-araw. [6:21] We have kept on repeating [6:23] that our workers are drowning [6:25] in the high cost of basic necessities. [6:28] But our regional wage boards [6:29] are just granting minuscule wage increases. [6:33] Pabarya-barya, [6:35] nakaka-insulto sa mga manggagawang [6:37] lumalaban ng pata sa araw-araw [6:40] para sa kanilang pamilya [6:41] at mga mahal sa buhay. [6:44] Sa nangyayari po ngayon, [6:45] parang sinasabi, [6:46] na nalulunod sa baha [6:48] ng kaspresyo ang ating mga manggagawa, [6:50] pero ang advice lang sa kanila ay [6:52] subukan yung tagalan pa na wag huminga. [6:56] Cruel. Cruel. [7:00] Mr. Chair, my dear colleagues, [7:02] we have a duty to save Filipino workers [7:05] from the dire and disastrous situation [7:07] they are in. [7:09] 1989 pa po, [7:11] ang last legislated wage hike. [7:13] That's 37 years ago. [7:16] 37 years is too long of a wait. [7:19] In fact, it is insulting. [7:21] And we are almost broke [7:23] and we almost broke [7:25] that long wait last Congress. [7:27] Pero tulad po na nabanggit ko, [7:29] last Congress, [7:31] we failed the Filipino worker. [7:33] The 19th Congress was able [7:35] to master the numbers [7:36] and to support finally [7:37] to pass a 200 peso minimum wage hike [7:40] through the leadership [7:41] of our good chairperson, [7:43] Representative Jolo Rivilla. [7:45] Na itawid po natin mula [7:47] kumite hanggang plenario [7:49] ang 200 peso wage hike, [7:50] nakapagpasa din po [7:52] ang Senado ng similar measure [7:53] at umasa sana tayo [7:56] sa huling dalawang minuto [7:57] ng 19th Congress, [7:59] maibibigay ang relief na ito [8:00] sa ating mga kababayan. [8:02] And I am hopeful [8:03] that it will master [8:04] even greater numbers [8:05] to push less into law [8:07] this Congress. [8:09] Huwag na po natin ulitin [8:10] ang pagkakamali [8:11] ng 19th Congress. [8:13] Ituwid po natin ito [8:15] dahil ang salbabida [8:16] mas lalong kailangan ngayon. [8:19] Ipasa na po natin [8:20] ang 200 peso wage hike [8:21] para sa ating mga minimum wage barriers. [8:24] Panahon na, [8:25] para akbayan muli [8:26] ang ating mga manggagawa. [8:28] Dahil sinasabi po natin palagi, [8:30] pag mahal mo, [8:31] akbayan mo. [8:32] At yung salbabida na yan, [8:33] pag pinagkait mo, [8:35] kasama na yan ang pagkatao. [8:37] Marami pong salam. [8:38] Thank you very much, [8:39] Representative Zendanio [8:40] of Akbayan Party List. [8:42] Nag-fail tayo [8:43] nung nakarang kongreso, [8:46] pero tayo'y patuloy [8:48] natitindig [8:49] at ipaglalaban natin [8:50] ang karapatan [8:51] ng ating mga manggagawa. [8:53] Kagaya nga nang lagi [8:54] niyong sinisigaw, [8:57] presyo, [8:58] iba ba, [8:59] sahod, [9:00] itaas. [9:02] We may now move on [9:03] to our next sponsor, [9:04] Representative Bong Tevez [9:06] of TGP Party List. [9:09] Mr. Chairman, [9:11] fellow congressman, [9:12] guest, [9:12] a pleasant morning [9:13] to all of us. [9:15] He proposed [9:16] a 200 pesos increase [9:18] the daily minimum wage [9:21] of all workers [9:22] in the private sector. [9:24] As we are all aware, [9:26] the currently daily minimum wage [9:28] na may halagang [9:29] 411 to 540 pesos [9:32] outside NCR [9:34] at 695 pesos [9:37] per day naman [9:37] sa NCR [9:38] ay hindi sapat [9:40] na tumataas [9:40] ng peso presyo [9:41] ng bilhin [9:42] sa pang-araw-araw. [9:45] According to [9:45] my fellow congressman, [9:46] sponsor roon sila [9:49] ng mga bills nila, [9:51] ganun din po [9:52] ang paninindigan [9:52] ng TGP Party List. [9:55] Taas ang ating sahod [9:57] at iba ba [9:58] ang presyo [9:59] ng mga bilhin. [10:01] According to [10:02] Independent Research [10:03] Organization, [10:04] Ebon Foundation, [10:05] ang isang pamilyang [10:07] may limang membro [10:08] sa Mito Manila [10:09] ay kinakailangan [10:11] ng 1,221 pesos [10:14] kada araw. [10:17] At kung ikukumpara natin ito [10:18] sa currently daily wage [10:20] na 695 pesos [10:23] ay kapos [10:24] para din po ito. [10:26] A worker earning [10:29] the minimum wage [10:29] still falls [10:31] 100 of pesos [10:32] short [10:33] of what is required [10:35] to provide [10:36] enough food, [10:37] shelter, [10:39] transportation, [10:40] healthcare, [10:42] education, [10:43] and other basic [10:44] necessities [10:45] for a family. [10:47] The proposed [10:48] 200 daily wage [10:49] increase [10:50] would raise [10:51] the NCR minimum [10:53] wage [10:54] to 895. [10:55] Napakalaki po [10:57] pa rin [10:57] ng margin [11:00] sa 1,221 [11:02] na sinasabi [11:04] ng Ebon Foundation. [11:08] While this [11:09] world still [11:10] fall below [11:11] the estimated [11:11] family living wage, [11:14] malaking tulong [11:15] pa po ito [11:15] upang maibsahan [11:16] ng kaunti [11:18] ang mataas [11:19] na presyo [11:19] ng bilihin [11:20] at ng [11:21] 6.8% [11:23] inflation rate [11:25] based [11:25] sa Philippine [11:26] Statistic [11:27] Authority. [11:29] This is a matter [11:30] of social [11:30] justice. [11:31] It allows [11:32] the ordinary [11:33] Pilipinos [11:34] who contribute [11:35] their labor [11:37] to wealth [11:37] our economy [11:38] to live [11:39] with dignity [11:40] and security. [11:43] This affirms [11:43] our commitment [11:44] that economic [11:45] progress [11:46] ay nararamdaman [11:47] ng Pilipino [11:48] sa lahat [11:49] ng sektor [11:50] ng ating [11:51] lipunan. [11:52] Maraming salamat. [11:53] Thank you very much [11:55] Representative Tevez. [11:57] At isa din po ito [11:59] sa nagpapalakas [12:00] na loob natin [12:01] para tayo [12:01] ay tumindig [12:02] at ipaglaban [12:03] ito. [12:04] Of course [12:05] our Senior Deputy [12:06] Majority Leader [12:06] will now [12:07] sponsor House Bill [12:08] number [12:08] 8246. [12:12] Maraming salamat [12:13] Chairman Revillea. [12:16] Magandang umaga [12:16] po sa ating lahat. [12:19] Ako po si [12:19] Lawrence Defensor [12:20] ng Province [12:22] of Ilohilo. [12:24] At hihingi po ako [12:25] sa inyo [12:26] ng tatlong minuto [12:26] na baka sakaling [12:29] mapagbigyan natin [12:30] ng totoong [12:31] pagkakataong [12:32] magkaroon [12:34] ng wage hike [12:36] at mapagbigyan [12:38] ang pangarap [12:39] ng manggagawang [12:40] Pilipino [12:41] na hindi natin [12:42] sinisira [12:43] ang ating [12:44] mga industriya. [12:47] I hope [12:47] to inspire [12:48] our labor [12:50] sector today [12:51] as well as [12:53] our industries [12:54] and employers [12:54] especially the [12:57] Department of Labor, [12:58] NEDA, [13:00] and my fellow [13:00] members of Congress [13:01] under the leadership [13:03] of our Chairman [13:04] Jolo Revillea. [13:07] I hope [13:08] that we can come [13:09] together [13:09] to have [13:11] a realistic [13:12] chance [13:14] and a realistic [13:16] solution [13:16] by seriously [13:18] considering [13:19] the staggered [13:21] wage hike [13:21] bill [13:22] that I am [13:23] proposing. [13:25] Kapag malaki po [13:26] at biglaan [13:27] ang pagtaas, [13:30] siguradong [13:30] patay [13:31] ang bill [13:32] at hindi matutuloy [13:34] ang pagtaas [13:35] ng sahod. [13:37] Ngunit, [13:39] kung reasonable [13:40] at dahan-dahan [13:42] ang pagtaas [13:43] sa ang ayon [13:44] sa kakayahan [13:45] ng ating mga [13:47] industriya [13:48] at ng ating [13:49] gobyerno, [13:49] sigurado po [13:52] akong matutuloy [13:53] ito at [13:55] masasabi ninyo [13:56] in this lifetime [13:57] and on my [13:59] last term, [14:01] we gave [14:01] a real chance [14:03] to change [14:04] the lives [14:04] of the [14:05] Filipino workers [14:06] and for the [14:07] private sector [14:08] to seriously [14:10] contribute [14:11] to national [14:12] development [14:13] by helping [14:14] our poor [14:16] Filipino [14:16] workers. [14:18] Ang staggered [14:19] wage hike [14:20] bill na po [14:20] ito [14:20] ay hindi [14:22] biglang [14:22] pahihirapan [14:23] ang ating [14:25] micro, [14:25] small, [14:26] and medium [14:26] enterprise [14:27] hindi [14:28] sisirain [14:29] ang malalaking [14:30] industriya [14:31] na nagdadala [14:32] ng trabaho [14:33] para sa ating [14:33] mga manggagawa [14:34] but it will be [14:36] a staggered [14:36] wage hike [14:37] kung saan [14:38] pwedeng [14:38] 50 o [14:40] isang daan [14:41] sa unang taon [14:42] 50 ulit [14:44] sa pangalawang taon [14:45] 50 sa [14:47] pangatlong taon [14:48] hanggat kaya [14:49] ng ating [14:50] mga employers [14:51] meron [14:52] meron din [14:52] mekanismo [14:53] dito [14:53] kung saan [14:54] ang ating [14:54] micro, [14:55] small, [14:55] and medium [14:56] enterprise [14:57] ay mapoprotektahan [14:58] sa ilalim [15:00] ng liderato [15:02] ni Chairman [15:02] Revillea [15:03] ang mga haligin [15:05] ng labor [15:05] sector [15:05] dito [15:06] si Congressman [15:07] Eli San Fernando [15:08] si TOCP [15:10] Partilist [15:11] at my idol [15:12] Raymond [15:13] Democrito [15:14] Mendoza [15:15] ang aking [15:16] mga kasamahan [15:17] pagbigyan niyo po [15:20] naman [15:20] ang mga manggagawa [15:22] na magbago [15:24] ang kanilang buhay [15:25] passing this bill [15:27] into law [15:28] will give meaning [15:31] and real purpose [15:32] for the existence [15:33] of this committee [15:34] and will give meaning [15:36] to the existence [15:37] of Congress [15:38] if we keep saying [15:39] that we are [15:39] the house [15:40] of the people [15:41] a purpose [15:43] to protect [15:44] the best interest [15:46] of the Filipino workers [15:47] without destroying [15:49] our industry [15:50] I'm so po [15:52] si Lawrence Defensor [15:53] at sana po [15:54] magsama-sama tayong [15:56] pagbigyan [15:57] ang kapwa nating [15:57] Pilipino [15:58] Maraming salamat po [15:59] Thank you very much [16:03] Senior Deputy [16:05] Majority Leader [16:06] Lawrence Defensor [16:07] I would like to [16:11] recognize [16:12] Honorable San Fernando [16:14] Mr. Chair [16:15] on behalf [16:16] of the [16:18] representatives [16:20] who are not present [16:20] here today [16:21] but they have [16:22] house bills [16:23] that have been [16:24] referred to [16:25] this committee [16:25] may I move [16:26] that their [16:27] explanatory notes [16:28] serve as their [16:28] sponsorship speech [16:30] to move [16:31] Mr. Chair [16:31] Any objection? [16:33] Seconded? [16:34] No objection? [16:36] The set motion [16:36] is hereby carried [16:37] At this point [16:42] we may now give [16:43] the floor [16:44] to the resource [16:45] person starting off [16:46] from the government [16:47] agencies [16:48] followed by the [16:49] labor groups [16:50] and the employer sector [16:51] and then [16:52] the NGOs [16:53] may we start [16:56] with [16:56] our [16:57] Department of Labor [16:58] and Employment [16:59] Undersecretary [16:59] Attorney [17:00] Felipe [17:01] Higargo Jr. [17:02] You're now recognized [17:03] Maraming salamat [17:05] Mr. Chair [17:05] Honorable [17:12] Chairperson [17:13] Honorable [17:15] members [17:16] of the [17:17] committee [17:17] guests [17:19] colleagues [17:20] from the [17:21] government [17:21] branch [17:22] fellow resource [17:24] persons [17:25] good morning [17:26] on behalf [17:28] of our [17:29] Secretary [17:29] Francis [17:30] N. [17:30] Tolentino [17:31] Department of Labor [17:33] and Employment [17:34] is very much [17:35] grateful [17:36] for the [17:37] privilege [17:37] and opportunities [17:39] extended [17:40] by this [17:41] committee [17:41] for us [17:42] to participate [17:42] into this [17:44] discussion [17:44] on the [17:45] proposed [17:46] legislative [17:47] measures [17:48] The [17:49] Executive [17:50] Department [17:50] of which [17:51] the Dolly [17:52] Forms Park [17:53] is constitutionally [17:55] mandated [17:55] to ensure [17:57] that laws [17:58] passed [17:58] by Congress [17:59] are faithfully [18:00] executed [18:01] We continue [18:03] to be guided [18:04] by existing [18:06] legislation [18:07] on wage [18:07] determination [18:08] or Republic [18:09] Act [18:10] No. [18:11] 6727 [18:12] otherwise [18:13] known [18:14] as the [18:14] Wage [18:15] Rationalization [18:16] Act [18:16] Pursuant [18:18] to existing [18:19] law [18:20] the National [18:21] Wages [18:22] and Productivity [18:23] Commission [18:23] and the [18:24] Regional [18:25] Tripartite [18:26] Wages [18:26] and Productivity [18:28] Board [18:28] remain [18:30] steadfast [18:31] in its [18:31] mandate [18:32] to comply [18:33] with the [18:33] law [18:34] and continues [18:35] to comply [18:36] with the [18:37] President's [18:37] directive [18:38] to make [18:39] a timely [18:40] review [18:40] of regional [18:41] minimum [18:42] wage rates [18:43] to address [18:44] the impact [18:45] of inflation [18:46] and ensure [18:47] fair play [18:48] for workers [18:49] On December [18:51] 1, [18:52] 2025, [18:54] the Department [18:54] already submitted [18:56] its comprehensive [18:57] technical inputs [18:58] to this [19:00] August body [19:01] where it was [19:02] stressed, [19:03] among others, [19:04] that in accordance [19:05] with the minimum [19:06] wage setting [19:07] mechanism [19:08] currently in place, [19:10] both the [19:11] right of workers [19:12] reliving wage [19:13] and the right [19:14] of business [19:15] and industry [19:16] to a reasonable [19:17] return on their [19:19] investment, [19:20] expansion, [19:21] and growth [19:22] are carefully [19:23] considered. [19:25] Since the [19:26] technical [19:26] paper already [19:28] discussed, [19:29] the Department [19:30] view comments [19:31] and recommendation [19:32] on the proposed [19:33] legislative wage [19:34] increases [19:35] from 100 [19:37] to 1,200 [19:39] and it already [19:41] touched upon [19:42] the effects [19:43] of having fixed [19:44] annual increases [19:45] which is not [19:46] far from the [19:47] proposed [19:47] trancing [19:48] with the [19:49] specific amounts [19:50] as contained [19:51] in House Bill [19:52] No. 8246 [19:54] under consideration [19:55] today, [19:57] we shall be [19:57] adopting [19:58] the same [19:59] for purposes [20:00] of today's [20:01] deliberation. [20:01] and then [20:03] the proposed [20:04] measures [20:05] on the [20:05] introduction [20:06] of an [20:07] amendment [20:07] to the [20:07] labor code [20:08] requiring [20:09] employers [20:10] to provide [20:11] a personal [20:12] financial [20:13] education [20:13] program [20:14] to employers [20:15] and bills [20:16] pertaining [20:17] to the [20:19] awards [20:19] of grants, [20:21] loans, [20:21] and eligible [20:22] employers [20:22] and working [20:24] entrepreneurs [20:24] to enable [20:26] them to [20:27] provide [20:27] financial [20:28] literacy [20:28] and [20:29] entrepreneurship [20:30] program [20:31] and fraud [20:32] detection [20:32] and prevention [20:33] programs [20:34] to work [20:35] in. [20:35] The Department [20:36] allows [20:38] these objectives [20:39] of these [20:40] measures [20:40] and signify [20:41] its full [20:42] support. [20:44] We shall be [20:45] submitting [20:45] our official [20:46] position paper [20:47] for this [20:47] matter [20:48] as soon [20:49] as it [20:49] is finalized. [20:51] Finally, [20:52] with respect [20:53] to House [20:54] Bill, [20:55] House Resolution [20:55] No. 221, [20:57] seeking an [20:58] inquiry [20:58] in aid [21:00] of legislation [21:00] into the [21:02] skills matching [21:02] and forecasting [21:04] policies [21:04] to ensure [21:05] quality [21:06] employment [21:06] and job [21:07] security [21:08] for Filipinos, [21:08] the Department [21:10] shall fully [21:11] cooperate [21:12] and provide [21:13] its insight. [21:15] The Department [21:16] also agrees [21:17] that there is [21:20] an urgent [21:20] necessity [21:21] for the [21:22] development [21:22] and implementation [21:24] of the [21:25] comprehensive [21:25] labor plan [21:26] and centralized [21:28] interoperable [21:30] labor market [21:31] information system, [21:33] ensuring [21:33] interagency [21:34] coordination [21:35] and cooperation [21:37] to address [21:38] problems [21:38] and skills [21:39] and effects [21:41] both workers [21:42] and enterprises [21:44] like. [21:45] Thank you [21:45] very much. [21:50] Yes, [21:51] Representative Mendoza, [21:53] TCP. [21:54] I was just [21:55] calling your attention. [21:56] But then again, [21:57] I'd like to [21:57] commend [21:58] you, [21:58] good friend, [22:02] because at least [22:03] there is a [22:03] principle stand [22:04] to Dole. [22:05] Unlike previously, [22:07] outright, [22:09] you know, [22:09] I don't want [22:11] that and we [22:11] don't want [22:11] that. [22:12] At least [22:13] it is a [22:14] committee [22:14] hearing and [22:15] just watch [22:19] and learn [22:19] and be open [22:21] to anything. [22:22] Of course, [22:23] with respect [22:23] to our [22:24] friends in [22:24] the business [22:25] sector, [22:26] it's good [22:27] to hear [22:27] that, [22:28] Mr. Chair. [22:29] Again, [22:30] unlike before, [22:31] a press release [22:32] padate, [22:33] huwag naman sana. [22:34] And congratulations [22:35] and thank you [22:36] to Secretary [22:37] Tolentino [22:38] for that. [22:39] Thank you. [22:41] Thank you. [22:41] Thank you very much. [22:44] Actually, [22:44] we would like [22:44] to commend [22:45] Secretary Tol [22:46] because [22:46] nakita natin [22:47] yung deprension [22:48] niya sa [22:49] mga past [22:50] secretaries. [22:51] Si Sec Tol, [22:53] nakita naman [22:53] natin [22:54] nakikinig siya [22:55] sa mga [22:55] labor groups. [22:57] Pinakikinggan niya [22:57] yung mga hinahing. [22:59] At [22:59] sabi nga niya, [23:01] kung anuman [23:01] ang ipapasa [23:02] ng kongreso, [23:03] yun ang kanilang [23:04] i-implement [23:04] at susundin. [23:06] In fact, [23:06] ginuna niya [23:07] si Congrisman [23:07] Elie [23:07] sa siya [23:08] na. [23:08] Mr. Chair, [23:09] I don't know why. [23:12] I guess, [23:12] ano, [23:13] you would like [23:14] to be invited. [23:15] Ang una [23:17] ay si [23:17] si [23:19] Sani, [23:20] pangalawa [23:21] si [23:22] Congrisman [23:23] Elie [23:23] kasi [23:24] nag-differ [23:25] muna. [23:26] Yes. [23:29] Okay, [23:30] Mr. Chair, [23:30] we just want [23:32] a dialogue [23:32] on the [23:33] labor sector. [23:34] At first, [23:36] we told [23:36] Tolentino [23:37] as a group [23:38] because [23:38] wala pa yan [23:39] because it's [23:40] new. [23:40] And of [23:41] course, [23:43] after six, [23:44] let me see, [23:45] six years, [23:46] four years, [23:48] four years, [23:49] and I hope [23:49] you can [23:50] bridge that [23:51] message of your [23:53] position. [23:54] The labor [23:54] group has [23:55] been since [23:56] 2022, [23:57] walang meeting [23:58] with the [23:59] president. [24:00] Like meetings [24:00] at EUCP, [24:01] but EUCP is [24:01] not the [24:02] labor group. [24:04] These fine [24:05] gentlemen and [24:05] gentlewomen [24:06] here are [24:07] partly part [24:08] of the [24:09] so-called [24:10] labor group. [24:12] So, [24:13] USEC, [24:13] please. [24:16] Yes, [24:16] please relate [24:17] to [24:17] Secretary [24:17] Tolentino. [24:18] Yes, [24:19] actually, [24:21] Mr. [24:22] Joshua [24:23] Mata [24:23] came to [24:24] me [24:24] and [24:25] he [24:26] called [24:26] his [24:26] letter [24:28] for a [24:28] dialogue [24:28] between [24:29] the [24:30] government, [24:32] the [24:32] DOLE [24:32] and the [24:33] labor [24:33] sector. [24:34] We told [24:35] that [24:35] we [24:36] called. [24:36] follow-up [24:36] namin. [24:37] Mr. [24:38] Chair, [24:38] i-balance [24:39] it. [24:39] Parate [24:40] la PCC [24:40] are [24:40] ECHOP [24:41] eh. [24:42] So, [24:43] you're [24:44] here, [24:44] in front [24:45] of us. [24:47] We're [24:47] not [24:47] invisible. [24:49] Mr. [24:50] Chair, [24:51] Mr. [24:51] Chair, [24:55] Mr. [24:55] Chair, [24:57] I formally [24:59] move that [25:00] we [25:00] endorse [25:01] the [25:02] request [25:02] of the [25:02] labor [25:03] groups [25:03] present [25:03] here [25:03] today [25:04] for [25:04] a [25:05] dialogue [25:05] with [25:05] the [25:06] good [25:06] Secretary [25:06] of [25:06] Labor. [25:07] Let us [25:15] now [25:15] move [25:16] on [25:16] to [25:16] any [25:22] representative [25:22] from [25:23] the [25:23] NWPC, [25:24] I think [25:24] Attorney [25:24] Grace, [25:27] yes, [25:27] you're [25:27] now [25:27] recognized. [25:29] Good [25:29] morning, [25:30] Mr. [25:30] Chair, [25:30] and to [25:31] everyone [25:31] present [25:31] here. [25:33] As [25:33] part [25:34] of the [25:34] Department [25:35] of [25:35] Labor [25:35] and [25:36] Employment, [25:37] we [25:37] joined [25:37] for [25:37] the [25:38] Department [25:38] in [25:38] saying [25:39] that [25:39] any [25:39] legislation [25:40] that [25:41] the [25:41] Congress [25:41] may [25:42] provide [25:43] what [25:43] we [25:43] will [25:44] be [25:44] faithfully [25:44] implementing. [25:45] And [25:46] we [25:46] don't [25:46] have [25:47] a [25:47] position. [25:48] We [25:48] just [25:48] provided [25:48] technical [25:49] inputs [25:49] previously, [25:51] but [25:51] we [25:51] receive [25:51] materials [25:53] just [25:53] recently [25:54] from [25:54] the [25:54] Kamagagawa [25:55] party list. [25:56] We [25:56] are [25:56] also [25:57] preparing [25:57] our [25:57] technical [25:58] inputs [25:59] and [25:59] to [25:59] the [25:59] other [26:00] references [26:01] or [26:02] materials [26:03] that [26:03] they [26:03] are [26:03] requesting, [26:04] we [26:04] will [26:04] be [26:04] providing. [26:05] Thank [26:05] you. [26:05] Thank [26:06] you. [26:06] Thank [26:06] you very [26:06] much. [26:08] Let's [26:10] now [26:10] move [26:10] on [26:11] to [26:11] DEP [26:13] DTI. [26:20] May [26:20] may [26:20] may [26:20] DTI [26:21] dito. [26:22] Let's [26:24] move on [26:25] to our [26:25] labor [26:25] groups. [26:26] First, [26:28] Partido [26:29] Manggagawa, [26:30] Representative [26:30] Magtubo, [26:33] former [26:33] congressman. [26:34] Gandang [26:35] umaga [26:36] po, [26:37] Sir [26:37] Chair. [26:38] Gandang [26:38] umaga [26:39] po sa [26:39] lahat [26:39] ng [26:39] resource [26:40] persons [26:40] at [26:40] mga [26:41] kamagagawa. [26:43] Kami [26:43] po [26:43] ay [26:43] si [26:45] Partido [26:45] Manggagawa, [26:46] nagkayo [26:46] sa [26:46] Labor [26:47] Coalition [26:47] at [26:47] member [26:48] kami [26:48] ng [26:48] National [26:49] Wage [26:49] Coalition. [26:51] Kami [26:51] po [26:52] ay [26:52] nagpapasalamat [26:53] sa [26:53] lahat [26:53] ng [26:53] mga [26:54] sponsors [26:54] na [26:55] congressman [26:56] sa [26:57] Legislated [26:58] Wage [26:58] Hike. [26:59] Amin [26:59] pong [26:59] sinusportahan [27:00] ang [27:01] 200 [27:01] Wage [27:03] Hike [27:03] sa [27:04] sumusnod [27:04] na [27:04] dahilan. [27:06] Una, [27:06] ang [27:07] hiningiipo [27:07] namin [27:08] ay [27:08] katarungan. [27:10] Kasi [27:11] bate naman [27:11] sa datos [27:12] ng ating [27:12] gobyerno, [27:14] since [27:14] 2014 [27:15] hanggang [27:16] 2024, [27:17] tumasang [27:18] productivity [27:19] ng [27:19] mga [27:19] gagawa [27:19] ay [27:19] 22%. [27:20] Pero [27:21] yung [27:22] real [27:22] wage [27:22] ng [27:23] mga [27:23] magagawa [27:23] na [27:23] tatanggap [27:24] sa [27:24] wage [27:26] boards, [27:26] ang [27:27] real [27:27] value [27:27] nito [27:27] ay [27:28] zero, [27:29] hindi [27:30] flat. [27:31] So [27:31] malayo [27:32] ng [27:32] agwat [27:33] ng [27:34] cost [27:34] of [27:35] living [27:35] sa [27:35] minimum [27:36] wage [27:36] times [27:37] 2 [27:37] na [27:38] living [27:39] wage [27:39] yung [27:39] pag-uusapan. [27:41] So [27:41] yun po [27:41] ay [27:42] inihingi lang [27:43] namin [27:43] yung [27:43] share [27:44] ang [27:45] labor [27:46] dun sa [27:46] yaman [27:48] na [27:48] inakyat [27:49] ng aming [27:50] lakas [27:50] paggawa [27:50] dun sa [27:51] paglago [27:52] ng [27:52] negosyo [27:52] at [27:53] ekonomyah. [27:55] Pangalawa, [27:56] ang [27:57] paghingi [27:57] naman [27:57] ng [27:57] dagdag [27:58] na [27:58] sweldo [27:59] ay [27:59] paglago [28:00] ng [28:00] ekonomyah. [28:02] Ang [28:02] 200 [28:02] pesos [28:03] minimum [28:04] wage [28:05] increase [28:06] kapag [28:07] minultiply [28:08] natin [28:08] sa [28:08] 3.5 [28:09] to [28:09] 4 [28:10] million [28:10] minimum [28:10] wage [28:11] earners, [28:11] meron tayong [28:12] economic [28:13] stimulus [28:13] of [28:14] more [28:14] than [28:14] 237 [28:15] billion [28:16] pesos [28:16] for [28:18] this [28:18] year [28:18] alone. [28:20] Economic [28:20] stimulus [28:21] yan [28:21] na [28:22] mabubuhay [28:23] ng [28:23] makarindiriya, [28:25] mabuhay [28:26] ng [28:26] mga [28:26] talipapa, [28:28] bumuhay [28:28] ng [28:28] sari-sari [28:29] store, [28:30] at [28:30] mag-increase [28:31] ng [28:31] demand [28:32] para [28:32] sa [28:33] produksyon [28:33] at [28:34] patuloy [28:35] na [28:35] paglago [28:35] ng [28:35] ating [28:36] ekonomyah. [28:37] Pangatlo [28:38] po, [28:39] napatunayan [28:40] naman [28:40] na [28:40] may [28:41] capacity [28:41] ang [28:42] ating [28:43] mga [28:43] employers. [28:44] ang [28:46] 200 [28:47] wage [28:48] increase [28:48] ay [28:50] 4.5 [28:53] to [28:54] 5% [28:55] increase [28:56] lang [28:56] sa gastos [28:57] sa [28:57] produksyon [28:58] sapagkat [28:58] ang [28:59] labor [28:59] cost [29:00] sa ating [29:01] mga [29:01] industriya [29:03] generally [29:04] is only [29:05] 15%. [29:06] So pag [29:07] nag-increase [29:08] ng [29:08] 200 [29:10] pesos, [29:13] 4 [29:13] to [29:13] 5% [29:14] lang yan [29:14] na [29:15] increase [29:15] sa [29:15] production [29:16] cost. [29:17] So kung [29:18] margin [29:19] ng [29:19] ating [29:19] negosyo [29:20] ay [29:21] 15 [29:21] to [29:22] 20%, [29:22] they [29:23] can [29:23] absorb [29:23] it. [29:25] So with [29:27] those [29:28] reasons, [29:30] sa tingin [29:30] namin, [29:30] hindi [29:31] na [29:31] natin [29:31] pwedeng [29:32] guwin [29:33] pang [29:34] hulugan [29:34] ang [29:35] dagdag [29:36] na [29:36] sweldo. [29:37] Sa pag [29:37] at uno [29:38] sa [29:38] lahat, [29:38] hindi [29:39] naman [29:39] hulugan [29:39] ang [29:40] inflation [29:40] at [29:42] kung gusto [29:43] nating [29:43] kagyat [29:44] na [29:44] bigyan [29:45] ng [29:45] kabuhayan [29:47] o maampatan [29:48] ang [29:48] kahirapan [29:49] ng ating [29:50] mga [29:51] manggagawa, [29:52] sana naman [29:52] buuin [29:53] na natin [29:54] ang dagdag [29:55] na [29:55] sweldo [29:56] ng [29:56] mga [29:56] manggagawa. [29:57] At muli [29:57] po [29:57] ang [29:58] salamat [29:58] sa [29:59] committee [29:59] para [30:00] talakayan [30:01] ito [30:01] at [30:02] hinihingi [30:03] namin [30:03] na [30:04] isama [30:05] kami [30:05] sa [30:05] pag-undad. [30:07] Kasama [30:07] dapat [30:07] yung [30:07] manggagawa [30:08] at [30:08] hindi [30:09] ito [30:09] kontra [30:11] sa [30:11] negosyo [30:12] sapagat [30:12] nagpapalago [30:13] na [30:13] ekonombiya [30:14] ang dagdag [30:14] na [30:14] sweldo. [30:15] Maraming salamat po. [30:18] I would like to call on now [30:20] Mr. Elmer Labog [30:21] of Kilusan ng [30:22] Mayuno. [30:34] Let's now move on to [30:35] Mr. Joshua Mata [30:36] of Centro. [30:38] Thank you Chair. [30:39] Magandang umaga po [30:40] sa inyo lahat. [30:41] And thank you for convening [30:42] this hearing [30:43] kahit na [30:44] supposedly [30:45] ay nakabreak [30:46] ang Kongreso. [30:47] Let me start by saying [30:48] that [30:48] like [30:49] what [30:49] people [30:49] earlier [30:52] have said, [30:52] we recognize [30:53] yung [30:54] tripartite [30:54] agreement [30:55] po natin. [30:56] Mr. Chair, [30:57] may tripartite [30:57] agreement [30:58] sa [30:58] ILO [30:59] Convention [31:00] 193. [31:01] And [31:02] hindi yun [31:03] medyo [31:05] rare [31:05] yung [31:05] may tripartite [31:06] agreement [31:06] sa ILO [31:07] kaya [31:08] napakahalaga [31:09] talaga [31:09] na [31:09] siguraduhin [31:10] natin [31:11] that [31:11] the [31:11] Philippines [31:12] would be [31:12] the first [31:13] to ratify [31:14] ILO [31:14] Convention [31:15] 193. [31:17] Pangalawa, [31:18] I'd also like [31:19] to add [31:19] that [31:19] I'm glad [31:20] to hear [31:21] yung [31:21] sinabi [31:21] niyo [31:21] kanina [31:22] Mr. [31:22] Chair [31:22] na [31:22] nakikinig [31:23] si [31:24] Secretary [31:25] of [31:25] Labor [31:25] sa mga [31:26] manggagawa. [31:27] Medyo [31:27] nag-isipan ko [31:29] lang, [31:29] paano [31:29] siya [31:29] makikinig [31:30] eh [31:30] hindi [31:30] po [31:30] siya [31:30] nakikipag [31:31] meeting [31:31] sa amin. [31:32] So [31:32] pwede [31:32] ho [31:32] bang [31:34] rather [31:35] than [31:35] imbitahin [31:35] kami [31:36] sa mga [31:36] flag [31:36] ceremony [31:37] makipag [31:38] dialogue [31:38] sa amin [31:39] because [31:39] that's [31:39] what [31:39] we [31:40] need [31:40] to [31:40] have. [31:41] So [31:42] thank [31:42] you [31:43] sa motion [31:43] ng [31:44] committee [31:51] po [31:51] sa [31:51] Centro [31:51] together [31:52] with [31:52] Nagkaisa [31:52] and [31:53] the [31:53] entire [31:53] National [31:53] Wage [31:54] Coalition [31:54] we [31:55] urge [31:56] the [31:56] immediate [31:56] passage [31:57] of [31:58] legislated [31:58] wage [31:59] increase [31:59] sa [31:59] kongreso. [32:02] To be [32:03] honest, [32:04] hindi ho [32:04] natin [32:04] ito [32:05] ito [32:05] is [32:06] ito [32:10] po [32:10] ay [32:10] wage [32:11] recovery [32:11] dahil [32:12] magmula [32:13] pa po [32:14] ng [32:14] umupo [32:14] ang [32:15] ating [32:15] Pangulo [32:16] sa [32:16] Malkanyang [32:17] na [32:17] erode [32:18] na [32:18] po [32:18] ang [32:19] real [32:20] wages [32:21] ng [32:21] mga [32:21] manggagawa [32:21] anywhere [32:22] from [32:22] 23% [32:23] to [32:23] 30%. [32:24] Which [32:25] means [32:25] yung [32:26] hinihingi [32:26] po [32:26] namin [32:27] na [32:27] minimum [32:27] na [32:28] 200 [32:28] siyempre [32:29] mas maganda [32:29] kung mas mataas [32:30] hindi [32:30] ho namin [32:31] tatanggahan [32:31] pag [32:31] mas mataas [32:32] pero [32:33] yung [32:33] minimum [32:33] na [32:33] hinihingi [32:33] namin [32:34] na [32:34] 200 [32:34] pag [32:35] yun [32:35] na [32:36] ipasa [32:36] nyo [32:36] that's [32:37] not [32:37] even [32:37] enough [32:37] para [32:38] i-patch [32:38] up [32:39] yung [32:39] nawala [32:39] na [32:40] real [32:41] wages [32:41] mga [32:41] manggagawa [32:42] kaya [32:42] para [32:43] sa [32:43] amin [32:43] ang [32:44] image [32:45] na [32:45] pagpapasa [32:46] nito [32:46] is about [32:47] justice [32:48] Tama yung [32:49] sinabi ni Karen [32:51] Justicia po [32:52] ang pinag-uusapan [32:53] natin [32:53] dito [32:53] dahil [32:55] matagal na [32:55] ho na [32:56] nagsasuffer [32:56] ang mga [32:57] manggagawa [32:57] at [32:58] nagpilit [32:58] na [32:58] namamaluktot [32:59] dun sa [32:59] kakarampot [33:00] na sahod [33:01] na [33:01] tinatanggap [33:02] natin [33:02] Unfortunately [33:04] we now [33:06] hear [33:06] that [33:07] there's [33:08] a proposal [33:09] para [33:09] magkaroon [33:10] ng [33:10] installment [33:11] ng [33:12] pagtaas [33:13] ng sahod [33:13] ng mga [33:14] manggagawa [33:14] tingi [33:16] parang [33:17] ititingi [33:18] hulugan [33:20] nagagawing [33:22] hulugan [33:22] po ito [33:22] alam nyo po [33:23] napakalaking [33:24] problema po [33:25] yan [33:25] mula kanina [33:27] nagsimula tayo [33:28] paulit-ulit [33:28] naming naririnig [33:29] lahat kayo [33:30] nag-agree [33:30] na dapat lang [33:32] na ang mga [33:32] manggagawa [33:33] ay deserving [33:33] ng wage increase [33:34] wala naman ako [33:35] narinig [33:35] na hindi [33:36] nagsabi [33:36] na deserving [33:37] and yet [33:38] ang proposal [33:39] ay [33:39] hulugan [33:41] hindi po yan [33:42] wage recovery [33:43] yan po ay [33:44] with all due respect [33:46] insulto [33:48] dahil matagal [33:49] na nga ako kami [33:50] nagsasuffer [33:50] na delay na nga po [33:52] ito [33:52] and we all know [33:54] that justice delayed [33:55] is justice denied [33:56] tapos ngayon [33:57] hulug-hulugan [33:58] tama po si Karen [33:59] hindi po naman [34:01] hindi po naman [34:02] again [34:03] hulugan [34:04] ang [34:05] inflation [34:07] eh hindi rin [34:08] pwedeng hulugan [34:09] ang hustisya [34:10] now [34:11] to be honest [34:12] I find it really [34:13] very difficult [34:14] to understand [34:15] why is it [34:16] that we keep [34:16] buying [34:17] yung arguments [34:18] ng mga employers [34:20] na ang kawawa [34:21] dito [34:21] ay mga [34:22] MSMEs [34:23] when in fact [34:23] exempted [34:25] ang mga [34:26] small scale [34:26] and medium scale [34:27] enterprises [34:28] natin [34:28] sa pagbigay [34:29] ng minimum wage [34:30] may pambilo [34:31] tayo eh [34:31] huwag naman [34:32] natin payagan [34:33] yung mga [34:34] malalaking [34:34] employers [34:35] lalo na [34:36] yung mga [34:36] may-ari [34:37] na mga retail [34:38] na mga [34:38] department store [34:39] yan po [34:39] ang lalaki [34:40] yan [34:41] ang yayaman [34:41] yan [34:42] pero ang [34:42] binabayad [34:43] yan po [34:43] minimum wage [34:44] dahil marami [34:45] po sa mga [34:45] magagawa [34:46] nila [34:46] contractual [34:47] ginagamit [34:48] lang po [34:49] nila [34:49] yung MSMEs [34:52] para nga [34:52] magtago [34:53] sa pangangailangan [34:54] na i-adjust [34:55] ang sahot nila [34:55] so please [34:56] stop using [34:57] MSMEs [34:58] as a shield [34:58] to protect [34:59] big business [34:59] and instead [35:01] nasiguraduhin [35:02] natin [35:03] na maipasa [35:04] na ito [35:04] as soon as [35:05] possible [35:05] after all [35:07] let me end [35:07] with this point [35:08] hindi na [35:09] ho natin [35:09] ito dapat [35:09] pinagdedebatihan [35:10] nagdesisyon [35:11] na po [35:12] yung previous [35:12] congress [35:13] na [35:14] ipasa [35:15] ito [35:15] so wala [35:16] na tayong [35:16] bagong [35:17] pag-uusapan [35:17] ang question [35:18] na lang po [35:18] dito [35:19] is the [35:20] current [35:20] leadership [35:21] ng ating [35:21] kongreso [35:21] would [35:22] they have [35:23] enough [35:24] political [35:25] will [35:25] to once [35:27] and for [35:27] all [35:28] pass this [35:28] despite [35:29] yung potential [35:30] na effort [35:31] ulit [35:31] to kill [35:32] this [35:33] bill [35:33] that [35:33] is [35:34] what [35:34] we [35:34] want [35:34] to [35:34] see [35:35] Mr. [35:35] Chair [35:35] thank you [35:36] po [35:36] thank you [35:37] very much [35:38] for your [35:38] insights [35:38] sir [35:40] let us [35:41] now move [35:41] on to [35:42] on behalf [35:44] of [35:44] Mr. [35:47] Labog [35:47] we would [35:48] like to [35:49] call on [35:49] Ms. [35:49] Mary Ann [35:50] Castillo [35:50] of KMU [35:51] is she [35:53] here [35:53] you're now [35:56] recognized [35:56] magandang [36:02] humaga [36:02] po sa ating [36:03] lahat [36:03] sa ating [36:04] honorable [36:04] Mr. [36:05] Chair [36:05] John [36:06] Rebilla [36:06] sa mga [36:07] resource [36:07] speakers [36:08] sa aking [36:08] mga [36:09] kamanggagawa [36:09] at sa [36:10] bumubo [36:10] ng [36:10] committee [36:11] may [36:16] sahod [36:16] dahil [36:16] sa [36:16] nagtaas [36:17] ang [36:17] presyo [36:17] ng [36:17] mga [36:18] pangunahing [36:18] bilihin [36:19] dismayado [36:20] na nga [36:20] lubang [36:21] nakakalungkot [36:22] na [36:23] mismo [36:23] mga [36:23] ating [36:23] gobyerno [36:24] ay [36:24] nagsasabi [36:25] na wala [36:25] daw dahilan [36:26] para [36:26] itaas [36:27] ang [36:27] sahod [36:27] ng [36:27] manggagawa [36:28] samantalang [36:29] taon-taon [36:30] nananawagan [36:31] naman [36:31] ang [36:31] pagtaas [36:31] ng [36:31] minimum [36:32] na [36:32] sahod [36:32] dahil [36:33] taon-taon [36:33] din [36:34] po [36:34] tumataas [36:35] ang [36:35] presyo [36:35] ng [36:35] mga [36:35] bilihin [36:36] bayarin [36:37] pagmatrikula [36:39] gamot [36:39] sa mga [36:40] nagkakasakit [36:40] at bayarin [36:41] sa [36:41] hospital [36:41] so [36:42] Mr. [36:42] Chair [36:42] ang mga [36:43] may union [36:44] nga [36:44] mga [36:46] merong [36:46] CBA [36:47] ay [36:47] nagwewelga [36:48] para [36:48] ipaglaban [36:49] ng [36:49] dagdag [36:49] sa [36:49] kanilang [36:50] sahod [36:50] at [36:50] beneficyo [36:51] paano [36:51] na lang [36:52] yung [36:52] mga [36:52] contractual [36:53] at [36:53] minimum [36:54] wage [36:54] earner [36:55] na [36:55] nakapakulang [36:56] sa [36:56] minimum [36:56] ang [36:56] kanilang [36:57] sahod [36:57] napag [36:58] iwanan [36:59] na [36:59] ang [36:59] tunay [36:59] na [37:00] alaga [37:00] ng [37:00] sahod [37:00] dahil [37:01] tumaas [37:02] ang [37:02] daily [37:02] cost [37:02] of [37:09] presyo [37:10] ng [37:10] langis [37:10] tumaas [37:11] rin [37:11] ang [37:12] inflation [37:12] rate [37:12] pumalo [37:13] ito [37:13] sa [37:14] 7.2% [37:15] noong [37:15] last [37:15] April [37:16] at [37:16] kasabay [37:17] nito [37:17] yung [37:17] pagbaba [37:18] ng [37:18] purchasing [37:18] power [37:19] of [37:19] peso [37:19] na [37:20] nagkakahalaga [37:21] na lang [37:21] sa [37:21] 0.73 [37:22] centavos [37:23] sa [37:24] ilang [37:24] taon [37:25] ko [37:25] na [37:25] nakakasama [37:25] sa [37:26] pagpahil [37:26] ng [37:26] wage [37:26] petition [37:27] sa [37:27] wage [37:27] board [37:28] palagi [37:28] nilang [37:29] sinasabi [37:29] na [37:30] hanggang [37:30] wage [37:31] fixing [37:31] lang [37:31] sila [37:32] kaya [37:32] nasa [37:33] average [37:33] sa [37:33] 50 [37:34] lang [37:34] ibinibigay [37:34] na [37:35] increase [37:35] sa [37:35] minimum [37:36] deserve [37:37] ng [37:37] manggagawa [37:38] ang [37:38] nakabubuhay [37:39] na [37:39] sahod [37:39] ang [37:40] 1,200 [37:41] living [37:41] wage [37:42] sa [37:42] pagpasok [37:43] ng [37:43] AI [37:44] automation [37:45] digitalization [37:46] bumilis [37:47] ang [37:47] takbo [37:48] ng [37:48] mga [37:48] makina [37:49] hindi [37:50] lang [37:50] doble [37:50] on [37:51] triple [37:51] ang [37:51] hinihingi [37:52] ang [37:52] output [37:52] na [37:53] dapat [37:54] likhain [37:54] ng [37:54] manggagawa [37:55] ang [37:56] masaklab [37:56] pa [37:56] dito [37:57] nagtatanggal [37:58] ng [37:58] manggagawa [37:58] sa [37:59] kumpanya [37:59] pero [38:00] hindi [38:00] nagdadagdag [38:01] ng [38:01] kapalit [38:01] bagkus [38:02] dinadagdag [38:03] pa [38:03] yung [38:03] naiwang [38:04] trabaho [38:04] o [38:04] makina [38:05] sa [38:05] kanya [38:05] kaya [38:06] humahawak [38:06] minsan [38:07] ng [38:07] 2-4 [38:08] makina [38:08] manggagawa [38:09] kaya [38:10] dagdag [38:10] pagod [38:10] ito [38:11] pero [38:12] hindi [38:12] dinadagdagan [38:13] ng [38:13] sahod [38:13] kaya [38:14] humihingi [38:15] ng [38:15] dagdag [38:15] sahod [38:15] ng [38:15] manggagawa [38:16] dahil [38:16] para [38:17] makaabagapay [38:18] sa [38:18] araw-araw [38:18] na [38:18] gastusin [38:19] lalo [38:20] na [38:20] ngayong [38:21] maharap [38:21] sa [38:21] krisis [38:22] hindi [38:22] na [38:22] mapagkasa [38:23] sa [38:23] pagbabudget [38:24] ang take-home [38:24] pay [38:25] dahil sa [38:26] mga [38:26] kinaltas [38:26] na [38:26] income [38:27] tax [38:27] at [38:28] mga [38:28] nagtaasan [38:29] ng [38:29] mandated [38:29] government [38:30] deductions [38:31] gaya [38:31] ng [38:31] SSS [38:32] at [38:32] field [38:32] hill [38:32] na [38:33] tumaas [38:33] last [38:33] year [38:34] mula [38:35] sa [38:35] pinagpagura [38:36] ng [38:36] manggagawa [38:36] ang mga [38:37] kinakaltas [38:38] sa aming [38:38] daily [38:38] wage [38:39] at [38:40] masaklap [38:41] pang [38:41] malaman [38:42] na [38:42] naibubulsa [38:43] lang pala [38:43] ito [38:43] ng [38:44] mga [38:44] kurap [38:44] na [38:45] nakaw [38:45] po [38:45] sa [38:45] pwesto [38:46] So [38:46] Mr. [38:47] Chair [38:47] hindi [38:47] dapat [38:47] pumili [38:48] ng [38:48] manggagawa [38:49] kung anong [38:50] dapat na [38:50] unahing [38:51] bayaran [38:52] o [38:52] gastusin [38:52] renta [38:53] sa bahay [38:54] o [38:54] pagmatrikula [38:55] sa [38:55] eskwela [38:56] bayad [38:57] sa kuryente [38:58] at [38:58] tubig [38:58] o [38:58] pagkain [38:59] baon [39:00] ng [39:00] anak [39:00] o [39:00] baon [39:01] sa [39:01] pagpasok [39:01] sa [39:01] trabaho [39:02] at [39:02] swerte [39:03] pa [39:03] kung [39:04] umabot [39:04] sa [39:04] susunod [39:05] na [39:05] sweldo [39:05] na [39:05] hindi [39:06] uutang [39:06] sa [39:06] katrabaho [39:07] o [39:07] sa [39:07] tindahan [39:08] hindi [39:09] ito [39:09] dapat [39:09] nararanasan [39:10] ng [39:10] manggagawa [39:11] kung [39:11] ginagampanan [39:12] ng [39:12] gobyerno [39:12] ang [39:13] kanilang [39:13] tungkulin [39:13] at [39:14] sinusunod [39:15] ang [39:15] sinasabi [39:16] sa [39:16] 1987 [39:17] constitution [39:18] na [39:19] ang [39:19] sahod [39:19] na [39:19] tinatanggap [39:20] ng [39:20] manggagawa [39:21] ay [39:21] dapat [39:21] nakaangkla [39:22] sa [39:22] living [39:23] wage [39:23] so [39:24] mula [39:24] pa [39:24] noong [39:24] 1989 [39:25] hulong [39:25] nagkaroon [39:26] ng [39:26] legislated [39:27] wage [39:27] hike [39:27] kaya [39:28] malaki [39:28] na [39:28] naging [39:29] agwat [39:29] ng [39:29] tunay [39:29] na [39:30] halaga [39:30] ng [39:30] sahod [39:31] at [39:31] pinasahod [39:32] pa [39:32] nga [39:32] ito [39:33] mula [39:33] nung [39:33] niregionalize [39:34] ang [39:41] namin [39:42] ay [39:42] buwagin [39:43] na [39:43] ang [39:43] regional [39:43] wage [39:43] boards [39:44] at [39:44] ibalik [39:44] ang [39:45] national [39:46] minimum [39:46] wage [39:47] ang [39:47] manggagawang [39:48] lumilika [39:48] ng [39:49] yaman [39:49] ng [39:49] ating [39:50] bansa [39:50] at [39:50] umaambag [39:51] sa [39:51] ekonomiya [39:52] matutunan [39:53] sanang [39:53] pahalagahan [39:54] ng [39:55] mga [39:55] nakupo [39:55] sa [39:55] gobyerno [39:56] ang [39:56] hirap [39:57] at [39:57] pagod [39:57] ng [39:57] manggagawa [39:58] at [39:58] tumbasan [39:59] ito [39:59] ng [40:00] nakabubuhay [40:00] na [40:00] sahod [40:01] ang [40:02] kailangan [40:02] ng [40:02] pamilyang [40:03] Pilipino [40:03] ngayon [40:03] ay [40:04] living [40:04] wage [40:04] na [40:05] 1,200 [40:06] para [40:07] maibalik [40:07] ang [40:08] tunay [40:08] na [40:08] alaga [40:09] ng [40:09] sahod [40:10] na [40:10] matagal [40:10] nang [40:10] nawala [40:11] at [40:11] maibalik [40:12] din [40:12] ang [40:12] dignidad [40:13] ng [40:13] manggagawa [40:13] maraming [40:14] salamat [40:15] po [40:15] Mr. [40:15] Chair [40:15] at [40:16] mabuhay [40:16] ang [40:16] manggagawang [40:17] Pilipino [40:17] Thank you [40:18] very much [40:18] Let us [40:20] now move on [40:20] to [40:21] BMP [40:22] Bucloro [40:22] ng [40:23] manggagawang [40:23] Pilipino [40:23] Attorney [40:23] Luke [40:24] Espiritu [40:25] Maraming [40:26] salamat [40:27] Honorable [40:27] Chair [40:27] Nag-alala [40:28] ako [40:28] baka [40:29] hindi [40:29] niyo [40:29] kumapansin [40:30] kasi [40:31] andun [40:31] ang [40:31] labor [40:32] groups [40:32] napadpad [40:33] ako [40:33] sa [40:33] kalabang [40:34] uri [40:34] pero [40:36] kalabang [40:37] uri [40:37] naman [40:37] hindi [40:38] bilang [40:39] personal [40:39] ito [40:40] si [40:40] Mr. [40:41] Guerrero [40:41] kaibigan [40:42] ko [40:42] naman [40:42] yan [40:42] bumoto [40:43] sa akin [40:43] yan [40:43] ng [40:43] eleksyon [40:44] ngayon [40:46] na [40:46] nalate [40:48] kasi [40:49] napadpad [40:51] ako [40:51] dito [40:52] Honorable [41:00] Chair [41:00] and [41:01] Honorable [41:01] members [41:02] of the [41:02] Committee [41:02] on [41:03] Labor [41:03] ito [41:05] ang [41:05] medyo [41:06] ironic [41:07] dito [41:08] sa ating [41:09] wage [41:09] hearings [41:10] na simula [41:10] pa [41:10] noong [41:11] 2022 [41:12] actually [41:12] we've [41:13] been [41:13] doing [41:13] this [41:14] in the [41:14] past [41:15] four [41:15] years [41:16] ang [41:18] pinaka [41:18] ironic [41:18] dito [41:19] undisputed [41:20] ang [41:20] premises [41:20] wala [41:22] namang [41:22] controversy [41:23] at [41:25] yung [41:26] under [41:27] dispute [41:28] madaling [41:29] sagot [41:30] ano yung [41:31] undisputed [41:31] premise [41:32] dito [41:32] unang [41:33] una [41:33] ang cost [41:34] of [41:35] living [41:35] natin [41:35] ay [41:36] talagang [41:37] malaki [41:38] kumpara [41:39] sa minimum [41:39] wage [41:40] ang layo [41:41] hindi [41:42] naman [41:43] subject [41:43] to [41:43] speculation [41:44] ng [41:44] cost [41:44] of [41:44] living [41:45] simple [41:46] mathematics [41:47] lang [41:47] naman [41:47] ang [41:47] gagawin [41:48] mo [41:48] para [41:48] i-add [41:50] mo [41:50] ang [41:50] pangangailangan [41:51] mo [41:51] sa [41:51] araw [41:51] araw [41:52] and [41:53] Yvonne [41:53] Foundation [41:54] has [41:54] been [41:54] doing [41:54] that [41:55] in a [41:55] scientific [41:56] manner [41:56] and I [41:57] would [41:57] even [41:57] say [41:57] medyo [41:58] tipid [41:58] pa nga [41:59] yung [41:59] computation [42:01] ng [42:01] Yvonne [42:01] Foundation [42:02] and [42:03] I [42:03] think [42:03] the [42:03] latest [42:04] figure [42:04] would [42:05] be [42:05] 1,200 [42:06] per day [42:07] ang [42:08] pangangailangan [42:09] 1,3 [42:10] 1,2 [42:11] 1,2 [42:11] na [42:11] thank you [42:12] congressman [42:13] for correcting [42:15] me [42:15] 1,3 [42:15] na pala [42:16] mabilis [42:16] to [42:16] mas [42:16] so [42:18] nasa [42:18] 1,3 [42:19] plus [42:19] na [42:19] ang cost [42:20] of [42:20] living [42:20] pero [42:21] nakapako [42:21] minimum [42:22] wage [42:22] sa [42:22] 695 [42:23] pesos [42:24] anong [42:25] ibig [42:25] sabihin [42:25] na [42:26] ito [42:26] talagang [42:26] ang [42:26] mga [42:26] manggagawa [42:27] obligado [42:28] gumastos [42:28] ng [42:28] 1,3 [42:29] pero [42:30] ang [42:30] kinikita [42:30] nila [42:31] sa [42:31] NCR [42:32] ay [42:32] 695 [42:33] sa [42:34] probinsya [42:34] mas [42:34] malayo [42:35] pa [42:35] mas [42:36] mababa [42:36] pa [42:36] so [42:37] anong [42:37] ibig [42:37] sabihin [42:38] yan [42:38] it [42:38] translates [42:39] to [42:39] yung [42:40] mga [42:40] manggagawa [42:40] kailangan [42:41] nilang [42:42] habulin [42:42] ng [42:42] kulang [42:43] kaya [42:44] ang [42:44] pang [42:44] araw [42:44] araw [42:45] na [42:45] buhay [42:45] ng [42:45] manggagawa [42:46] ngayon [42:46] kailangan [42:47] nilang [42:47] magabul [42:47] ng [42:47] overtime [42:48] lubog [42:48] sa [42:48] utang [42:49] at [42:49] nage [42:50] extra [42:50] income [42:50] pa [42:51] talagang [42:52] wala [42:59] tapos [43:00] sila [43:00] ay [43:00] nagsasangla [43:01] ng [43:01] kanilang [43:01] ATM [43:02] kulang [43:03] pa rin [43:04] pagkatapos [43:05] nila [43:05] magtrabaho [43:06] sa pagawan [43:06] o sa [43:07] pabrika [43:07] sila [43:08] ay [43:08] sasampa [43:09] pa [43:09] sa [43:09] grab [43:09] lalamub [43:10] at [43:11] sila [43:11] ay [43:11] magtatrabaho [43:12] pa [43:12] babiyahin [43:13] ng [43:13] 4 [43:13] na [43:13] oras [43:14] tulog [43:15] na [43:15] lang [43:16] ang [43:16] pain [43:16] kalunos [43:17] lunos [43:17] ang [43:18] kondisyon [43:18] ng [43:18] manggagawa [43:19] slave [43:19] like [43:20] conditions [43:20] ganoon [43:23] natin [43:23] sa anong [43:24] bansa [43:24] merong [43:25] tulad [43:25] sa [43:25] Pilipinas [43:26] ng [43:30] mababa [43:30] pa [43:30] sa [43:31] poverty [43:31] threshold [43:32] kahiya [43:33] di ba [43:33] I mean [43:34] kung ito [43:35] tayo [43:36] ay [43:36] members [43:36] ng [43:37] Philippine [43:38] Congress [43:39] or [43:40] tayo [43:41] ay [43:41] Department [43:41] of [43:41] Labor [43:42] or [43:42] tayo [43:43] ay [43:43] NWPC [43:44] or [43:45] tayo [43:45] ay [43:45] Regional [43:45] Wage [43:46] Board [43:46] can you [43:47] imagine [43:48] what [43:48] we have [43:48] achieved [43:49] in the [43:50] past [43:51] 30 [43:52] or so [43:52] more [43:52] years [43:53] na [43:53] pinabagsak [43:54] natin [43:55] ang [43:55] sahod [43:55] ng [43:55] manggagawa [43:56] sa [43:56] below [43:56] the [43:56] poverty [43:57] threshold [43:57] yung [43:58] isang [43:58] bansa [43:58] merong [43:59] ganun [43:59] Pilipinas [44:01] lang [44:01] di ba [44:02] so [44:02] it's [44:02] not [44:03] something [44:03] to be [44:03] proud [44:04] of [44:04] which [44:05] is [44:05] the [44:06] number [44:06] one [44:07] most [44:07] notable [44:08] achievement [44:09] of our [44:10] institutions [44:11] meaning [44:12] to say [44:12] we really [44:12] have [44:13] failed [44:13] the [44:13] Filipino [44:13] worker [44:14] so [44:15] undisputed [44:15] yan [44:16] ang layo [44:16] sa cost [44:17] of [44:17] living [44:17] second [44:18] undisputed [44:20] thing [44:21] grabe [44:22] ang [44:22] inflation [44:22] third [44:24] undisputed [44:25] thing [44:25] ang [44:27] productivity [44:27] ng [44:28] magagawa [44:28] tumataas [44:29] lang [44:29] so [44:30] the [44:30] conclusions [44:31] should [44:31] really [44:31] be [44:32] undeniable [44:33] na [44:34] kailangan [44:34] natin [44:34] magtaas [44:35] ng [44:35] sahod [44:36] ano [44:37] yung [44:37] controversy [44:38] na nire-raise [44:39] ng [44:40] ECO [44:40] at itong [44:41] mga [44:41] kalaban [44:42] natin [44:42] sa uri [44:42] pero [44:43] kaibigan [44:43] natin [44:44] sa [44:44] personal [44:44] ano [44:46] yan [44:46] MSME [44:47] argument [44:47] pero [44:49] ewan ko [44:50] kung [44:50] merong [44:50] MSME [44:51] dito [44:51] e [44:52] puro [44:52] mga [44:52] big [44:52] business [44:53] yan [44:53] they're [44:54] using [44:54] an [44:55] argument [44:55] that [44:55] does [44:55] not [44:56] apply [44:56] to [44:56] them [44:56] imagine [44:59] malalaking [45:00] business [45:00] sila [45:01] ang [45:01] gagamitin [45:02] nila [45:02] ay [45:03] MSME [45:03] pero [45:03] kaya nilang [45:06] magtaas [45:06] ng [45:07] sahod [45:07] so [45:09] mag-benefit [45:10] sila [45:10] ngayon [45:10] doon [45:11] sa [45:12] mababang [45:13] sahod [45:13] based on [45:14] the [45:14] premise [45:15] na [45:15] kailangan [45:15] tulungan [45:15] ng [45:15] MSME [45:16] pero [45:17] pinanaki [45:17] sila [45:19] diba [45:19] madaya [45:19] yun [45:20] kanungin [45:21] kaya [45:21] natin [45:21] ng [45:22] MSME [45:22] ang [45:23] miniklamo [45:23] ng [45:23] MSME [45:24] hindi [45:24] sahod [45:25] eh [45:25] tax [45:26] bakit [45:27] gobyerno [45:27] dapat [45:28] ang [45:28] tumutulong [45:29] sa [45:29] MSME [45:29] hindi [45:30] dapat [45:31] yan [45:31] isang [45:31] bagay [45:32] na [45:32] pinapakarga [45:33] mo [45:33] sa [45:33] manggagawa [45:34] can you [45:35] imagine [45:35] ang [45:35] economic [45:36] strategy [45:36] natin [45:37] always [45:38] para [45:38] tulungan [45:39] ang [45:39] negosyo [45:40] is [45:40] lang [45:41] talagang [45:42] titingnan [45:42] lang [45:42] natin [45:43] ang [45:43] verdad [45:43] ng [45:43] manggagawa [45:44] hindi [45:44] tayo [45:44] nag-iisip [45:45] ng [45:46] industrial [45:47] policy [45:48] ng [45:48] gobyerno [45:49] hindi tayo [45:50] nag-iisip [45:51] na ang [45:51] gobyerno [45:51] kailangan [45:52] maging [45:53] aktibo [45:55] sa [45:55] pagpaplano [45:55] ng [45:56] ekonomiya [45:56] talagang [45:57] isa [45:58] lang [45:58] manggagawa [45:59] lang [45:59] talaga [45:59] so [46:00] medyo [46:01] problema [46:01] yung [46:02] MSME [46:02] argument [46:03] and [46:04] hindi [46:04] na ako [46:05] magpapakahaba [46:05] diyan [46:06] maraming [46:06] mag-re-raise [46:08] again [46:08] ng [46:09] argument [46:09] na yan [46:10] inflation [46:11] we have [46:11] disproven [46:12] that [46:12] remember [46:13] we have [46:13] been doing [46:14] this [46:14] for the [46:14] past [46:15] 4 [46:15] years [46:15] nag-present [46:17] kami [46:18] ng mga [46:18] economist [46:20] sila [46:21] wang hirin [46:22] pinipisintang [46:22] mga figures [46:23] at saka [46:23] mga economist [46:24] si Sunny Africa [46:27] ba nandito [46:27] parati ako [46:30] naghahamon [46:31] ng debate [46:31] isasalan ko [46:32] si Sunny Africa [46:32] sa kanila [46:33] so [46:36] tanda natin [46:39] in the past [46:40] 4 years [46:40] ang 19th [46:41] Congress [46:41] after all [46:42] of these [46:42] arguments [46:42] na [46:43] nirace [46:43] ng business [46:44] groups [46:44] ang naging [46:46] disistro [46:46] ng 19th [46:47] Congress [46:47] magbigay [46:48] ng 200 [46:48] peso [46:49] wage [46:49] increase [46:50] ang [46:51] disisyon [46:51] ng [46:51] Senate [46:52] 100 [46:52] peso [46:53] talagang [46:54] isang [46:54] tumbling [46:55] na lang [46:55] dapat [46:55] nagkaroon [46:55] na tayo [46:56] ng [46:56] legislated [46:56] wage [46:57] increase [46:57] ang [46:58] problema [46:59] hindi [46:59] nung [47:00] time [47:00] na [47:01] dapat [47:02] mag [47:02] bicameral [47:03] conference [47:04] committee [47:04] may [47:04] humaharang [47:05] yan [47:06] ang [47:06] problem [47:06] dito [47:07] kaya [47:08] medyo [47:08] meron [47:08] ako [47:09] Mr. [47:09] Honorable [47:10] Chair [47:10] ng worry [47:11] why we [47:12] are [47:12] doing [47:12] this [47:13] at [47:14] mag-hearing [47:15] nga [47:15] naman [47:15] tayo [47:17] and [47:17] mag-aargumento [47:18] na naman [47:18] kami [47:18] magdadala [47:19] naman [47:19] kami [47:19] ng mga [47:20] ekonomista [47:20] eh [47:22] ang nakakatakot [47:23] neto [47:23] baka [47:23] pagdating [47:24] sa [47:24] tuktok [47:24] haharangin [47:25] ewan ko [47:27] sige [47:27] congressman [47:28] Eli [47:28] yata [47:28] papangalanan [47:29] kung sino [47:30] lang ang [47:30] harangin [47:30] nag-usap [47:32] kami [47:33] last time [47:33] so [47:35] may [47:35] humaharang [47:36] yan [47:36] ang [47:36] problem [47:36] dito [47:37] someone [47:38] na [47:39] medyo [47:39] hindi [47:39] madenay [47:41] ang [47:42] kanyang [47:42] power [47:42] kaya [47:44] dinadaya [47:45] rin [47:45] kayo [47:46] congressman [47:47] Reveille [47:47] na mga [47:48] humaharang [47:48] ikaw [47:49] ang sinasalang [47:49] dito [47:50] pero [47:51] sila [47:51] nakakubli [47:52] kaya [47:54] medyo [47:54] sinachallenge [47:55] din namin [47:55] kayo [47:56] Mr. [47:58] Honorable [47:58] Chair [47:59] why don't [48:01] you defy [48:01] yung mga [48:02] humaharang [48:02] na yun [48:03] and [48:03] you know [48:04] magtumalima [48:06] sa demand [48:07] ng mga [48:07] magagawa [48:07] na [48:08] uncontroverted [48:09] hindi na ako [48:10] magpapatagal [48:11] and ito na lang [48:12] I will end [48:12] with this [48:13] if the 19th [48:14] Congress [48:14] has already [48:15] conducted [48:16] proceedings [48:17] where we have [48:18] exhausted [48:18] all of our [48:19] arguments [48:19] muntik [48:21] nang maging [48:21] batas [48:21] hinarang lang [48:22] ng nasa [48:23] tuktok [48:25] tapos [48:25] i-re-rehash [48:26] pa ba [48:26] natin [48:26] dito [48:27] yan [48:27] meron namang [48:28] section 48 [48:29] sa rules [48:29] ng house [48:30] di ba [48:31] imagine [48:32] mo [48:33] yung legislative [48:33] process [48:34] and the waste [48:35] of time [48:35] and resources [48:36] ng mga [48:36] laway [48:37] namin [48:37] na paulit [48:38] ulit [48:38] lang din [48:39] ang magiging [48:39] argumento [48:40] namin [48:40] sigurado [48:41] ako [48:41] ang eco [48:42] paulit [48:42] ulit [48:42] lang [48:43] sa sabihin [48:43] nila [48:43] which has [48:44] already [48:45] been passed [48:45] upon [48:46] in the [48:46] 19th [48:46] Congress [48:47] I [48:48] invite [48:51] the [48:51] committee [48:52] to use [48:53] section 48 [48:54] yan lang po [48:54] at maraming [48:55] salamat [48:55] thank you [48:58] let us now [49:00] move on [49:01] to [49:01] Miss [49:03] Margarita [49:04] Rifaldio [49:05] Mr. [49:05] Chair [49:05] just [49:06] a bit [49:07] of a rejoinder [49:08] for the record [49:09] po [49:09] no 19th [49:10] Congress [49:10] yung ating [49:10] chair [49:11] person [49:11] inilaban [49:12] tayo [49:12] hanggang [49:12] dulo [49:13] salamat [49:13] po [49:13] tayo [49:17] naman [49:17] dito [49:17] sa [49:17] committee [49:18] ito [49:19] inaproba [49:19] natin [49:19] yung [49:20] mga [49:20] kailangan [49:20] natin [49:20] ipasa [49:21] ginagawa [49:23] natin [49:23] yung [49:23] trabaho [49:24] natin [49:24] dito [49:24] pagdating [49:25] sa [49:25] floor [49:25] din [49:25] defend [49:26] natin [49:26] yung [49:26] kailangan [49:27] indefend [49:27] pero [49:29] hindi [49:30] po [49:30] dito [49:30] natatapos [49:31] yung [49:31] gagawin [49:32] natin [49:32] kasama [49:33] nyo [49:33] kami [49:33] pero [49:34] ang [49:35] naging [49:35] problema [49:35] naman [49:35] po [49:36] natin [49:36] nung [49:36] nakarahan [49:36] by [49:37] cam [49:37] naging [49:37] problema [49:38] po [49:38] natin [49:38] sa [49:39] isang [49:39] bill [49:39] po [49:39] natin [49:39] dito [49:40] hindi [49:40] po [49:40] naka [49:40] agenda [49:41] para [49:42] lang [49:42] po [49:42] sa [49:42] information [49:43] ng [49:43] karami [49:43] now [49:44] let [49:45] us [49:45] move [49:45] on [49:45] to [49:45] Miss [49:46] Margarita [49:46] Grifaldio [49:47] of [49:47] PTGWO [49:49] Yes [49:50] magandang [49:50] umaga po [49:51] po ay [49:52] representative [49:53] ng [49:53] association [49:54] ng [49:55] minimum [49:55] wage [49:56] earner [49:56] ng [49:57] PTGWO [49:58] So [49:59] napaka [49:59] sarap [50:00] po [50:00] natin [50:00] tumakunta [50:01] sa [50:01] hanay [50:02] na [50:02] ito [50:02] kasi [50:02] malapit [50:03] po [50:03] ako [50:03] sa [50:04] ating [50:05] mga [50:06] katabi [50:07] mas [50:08] marinig [50:09] po [50:09] nila [50:09] So [50:10] kami [50:11] po [50:11] nagpapasalamat [50:13] sa [50:13] mga [50:14] government [50:15] representative [50:16] dahil [50:17] patuloy [50:18] pong [50:18] tumitindig [50:19] para po [50:19] ilaban [50:20] itong [50:20] 200 [50:21] pesos [50:21] wage [50:22] hike [50:22] Actually [50:23] sabi nga [50:23] hindi [50:24] naman [50:24] wage [50:24] hike [50:24] to [50:25] kumbaga [50:25] ito [50:26] po [50:26] ay [50:26] sabi [50:27] nila [50:27] salbabida [50:28] yung [50:29] 200 [50:29] pesos [50:30] pero [50:30] huwag [50:30] po [50:30] natin [50:31] hayaan [50:31] yung [50:31] salbabida [50:32] na ito [50:32] walang [50:33] hangin [50:33] So [50:34] kailangan [50:35] po [50:35] natin [50:36] na [50:36] ipagpatuloy [50:38] yung [50:38] laban [50:38] na ito [50:39] sa [50:39] tulong [50:39] po [50:39] ninyo [50:40] sa [50:41] pagtindig [50:42] nyo [50:42] para [50:42] dito [50:43] ngayon [50:44] ako po [50:44] ay [50:44] representative [50:45] ng mga [50:46] manggagawa [50:46] kung [50:47] maririnig [50:48] nyo [50:48] po [50:48] ang [50:49] hinahing [50:49] ng tunay [50:50] na [50:50] manggagawa [50:50] sa baba [50:51] baka po [50:52] madismaya [50:53] ang mga [50:54] nasa [50:54] gobyerno [50:55] bakit po [50:56] unang [50:57] tanong [50:58] may dagdag [51:00] sweldo [51:01] na 200 [51:01] nasabihin [51:03] namin [51:03] wala pa [51:03] po [51:04] nilalaban [51:04] pa po [51:05] yan [51:05] alam [51:06] pong [51:06] sasagot [51:06] ng [51:06] mga [51:07] manggagawa [51:07] pagka [51:09] sa malalaking [51:09] pera [51:10] malaki [51:11] nilang [51:11] nakukuha [51:12] sa [51:12] pamamagitan [51:13] ng [51:13] korupsyon [51:16] nagiging [51:17] isip [51:18] nila [51:18] pero [51:19] pag [51:20] sa [51:20] manggagawa [51:20] kakatiting [51:21] lang [51:21] ang [51:22] ibibigay [51:22] so [51:23] ngayon [51:24] po [51:24] ang [51:24] sweldo [51:25] po [51:25] natin [51:25] sa [51:26] minimum [51:26] wage [51:27] earner [51:27] ay [51:27] 695 [51:29] kung [51:30] idadagdag [51:30] po [51:31] yung [51:31] 200 [51:31] kulang [51:33] pa rin [51:33] po [51:33] yun [51:34] para [51:34] dun [51:34] sa [51:34] 1-2 [51:35] so [51:36] ito [51:37] man [51:37] lang [51:37] pong [51:37] 200 [51:38] kung [51:38] talagang [51:39] magiging [51:40] the [51:40] tasks [51:41] ay [51:41] malaki [51:42] pong [51:42] tulong [51:43] malaki [51:44] pong [51:44] pang [51:45] survive [51:45] sa [51:46] mga [51:46] pamilya [51:47] ng [51:47] Pilipino [51:48] na [51:48] may [51:48] limang [51:48] niyembro [51:49] ito [51:51] pong [51:51] bagay [51:51] na [51:51] ito [51:52] ay [51:52] napakalaking [51:53] kaginuhahan [51:54] kahit [51:55] po [51:55] sabihin [51:56] natin [51:56] na [51:57] 1-2 [51:58] ang [51:59] kailangan [51:59] tatanggapin [52:00] namin [52:00] yung [52:01] 200 [52:01] bakit [52:02] hindi [52:02] kasi [52:03] malaki [52:03] pong [52:03] bagay [52:04] ito [52:05] ang [52:05] inihiling [52:06] po [52:06] namin [52:06] sa [52:06] inyo [52:07] sana [52:07] nakikita [52:08] ng [52:09] pamahalaan [52:10] para [52:10] hindi [52:10] na [52:11] po [52:11] ito [52:11] pigilan [52:11] kasi [52:12] kung [52:12] meron [52:13] sinasabi [52:13] nila [52:13] na [52:14] may [52:14] pumipigil [52:14] dito [52:15] sino [52:15] to [52:15] hindi [52:16] naman [52:16] natin [52:16] mapapangalanan [52:18] sana [52:18] po [52:19] huwag [52:19] itong [52:19] maging [52:20] wage [52:20] control [52:21] kasi [52:22] yung [52:23] blood [52:23] control [52:23] napipigilan [52:24] nila [52:24] eh [52:25] ito [52:25] magiging [52:26] wage [52:26] control [52:26] pa [52:27] ba [52:27] sana [52:30] po [52:30] tingginin [52:32] nyo [52:32] kung ano [52:32] yung [52:32] hinihiling [52:33] ng mga [52:34] magkagawang [52:34] Pilipino [52:35] nagbibigay [52:36] ng [52:36] antas [52:37] para [52:37] po [52:38] sa [52:38] ikabubuhay [52:39] ng [52:39] ating [52:40] magagawa [52:41] magiging [52:42] marangal [52:42] at [52:42] disente [52:43] ayun [52:45] na po [52:46] natin [52:46] pag-usapan [52:47] kung ano [52:47] pa po [52:48] isa-isahin [52:48] natin [52:49] tayo po [52:50] alam na [52:50] natin [52:51] kung ano [52:51] yung [52:51] mga [52:51] pangailangan [52:52] kung yung [52:54] mga [52:54] may [52:54] union [52:55] nahihirapan [52:56] po eh [52:56] yun [52:57] po [52:57] kaya [52:57] minimum [52:58] wage [52:59] earner [52:59] na [52:59] kada [52:59] limang [53:00] gwan [53:00] natatapos [53:01] ang [53:01] kanilang [53:01] mga [53:02] kontrata [53:02] mag-a-apply [53:03] na [53:03] naman [53:04] kailangan [53:04] na [53:04] naman [53:05] nila [53:05] yung [53:06] pera [53:06] para [53:07] mag-a-apply [53:07] gumastos [53:08] para [53:08] sa kanilang [53:09] mga [53:09] application [53:10] kung [53:11] tinanggal [53:12] naman [53:12] sila [53:12] hindi [53:13] po [53:13] sila [53:13] magkakalakas [53:14] loob [53:14] pumunta [53:14] sa [53:14] labor [53:15] bakit [53:15] po [53:15] mas [53:16] gugustuhin [53:17] nilang [53:17] pumasok [53:17] sila [53:18] mag-apply [53:18] na [53:18] naman [53:19] kasi [53:19] wala [53:19] po [53:19] silang [53:20] support [53:20] yun [53:22] po [53:22] yung [53:22] katotohanan [53:23] sino [53:24] pong [53:24] contractual [53:25] workers [53:26] ang [53:26] magpupunta [53:27] dyan [53:27] gumawa [53:27] ng [53:27] tutulong [53:28] sa [53:28] dole [53:29] pag-aantayin [53:30] lang [53:30] eh [53:31] pamasahin [53:32] nila [53:32] pagkain nila [53:34] saan sila [53:35] kukuha [53:36] kung may [53:36] pamilya [53:37] pa yan [53:37] sino pong [53:38] tutulong [53:39] dyan [53:39] buti na lang [53:40] may mga [53:41] labor groups [53:42] na [53:42] tumutulong [53:43] sa kanila [53:44] para [53:44] maglumaban [53:46] kung ano man [53:46] yung [53:47] kakapitan nila [53:48] na hindi [53:48] na ibibigay [53:49] so ito [53:50] lang po [53:50] 200 [53:51] supportado [53:53] po [53:53] ang [53:53] amuea [53:54] na iyan [53:55] ay [53:55] maisa [53:55] batas [53:56] pagtulong [53:57] tulungan [53:57] po natin [53:58] sana po [53:58] naririnig [53:59] ng mga [54:00] taga-escop [54:01] ng [54:01] Department [54:02] of Labor [54:02] kaya nga po [54:04] mas mahinaw [54:05] hindi pa ako [54:05] eh [54:06] diba [54:06] sabi ni [54:07] kirito [54:09] ba't siya dito [54:09] nahanay [54:10] mas gugustuhin [54:11] ko pong dito [54:11] ako humanay [54:12] para mas marinig [54:14] so [54:14] yan lang po [54:17] maraming maraming [54:18] salamat po [54:19] yes [54:21] representative ko [54:22] Mr. Chair [54:23] just a [54:24] very brief [54:25] addition to [54:26] the manifestations [54:27] of our [54:28] previous two [54:28] resource persons [54:29] yun nga po [54:31] yung 200 pesos [54:33] salbabida [54:33] nga lang [54:34] sobrang hindi [54:35] pa sapat [54:36] so para po [54:37] nakabubuhay [54:38] talaga [54:39] this representation [54:41] filed yung [54:42] 1,200 [54:43] but even then [54:44] that's outdated [54:45] already [54:46] because [54:47] Yvon Foundation [54:48] has recent [54:48] calculations [54:49] that the [54:50] family living [54:51] wage is already [54:51] 1,312 [54:53] I hope later [54:54] we'll allow [54:55] Yvon Foundation [54:56] to present [54:57] its findings [54:58] so as to [54:58] support [54:59] our discussion [55:01] supplement it [55:02] why [55:03] important [55:04] family living [55:04] wage [55:05] for the [55:06] consideration [55:07] of the [55:07] body [55:07] because [55:08] if [55:08] not [55:08] that's [55:09] that's [55:10] that's [55:13] all [55:13] Mr. [55:13] Share [55:13] okay [55:14] now [55:14] let us [55:15] call on [55:15] the Yvon [55:17] Foundation [55:18] Mr. [55:25] Africa [55:25] you are now [55:25] recognized [55:26] Mr. [55:40] Africa [55:40] you are now [55:41] recognized [55:41] okay [55:55] good [55:57] morning [55:58] may [56:00] actually [56:00] may [56:00] medyo [56:01] nahiya [56:02] ako [56:02] may [56:02] powerpoint [56:03] presentation [56:03] baka [56:04] makatulong [56:04] din [56:05] kasi [56:06] ayun po [56:07] una-una [56:09] maraming salamat [56:10] sa [56:11] committee [56:11] labor [56:12] sa pag [56:12] invita [56:12] sa [56:13] may [56:13] contribute [56:14] sa [56:14] discussion [56:15] based [56:15] on [56:15] with [56:17] us [56:18] pinaka [56:18] latest [56:18] available [56:19] data [56:19] looking [56:20] forward [56:21] sana [56:21] kayo [56:21] na [56:21] magpresent [56:22] ang [56:22] DepDev [56:23] DTI [56:23] Dole [56:24] but [56:24] kung [56:25] wala [56:25] sana [56:27] bigyan [56:27] nyo [56:27] ng [56:27] special [56:28] emphasis [56:29] yung [56:29] share [56:30] ng [56:30] Ebon [56:30] ganun [56:31] pamantingin [56:32] namin [56:32] kahit [56:33] hindi [56:34] buo [56:34] yung [56:34] datos [56:35] hindi [56:35] kasi [56:35] nakapag [56:35] present [56:36] yung [56:36] government [56:36] side [56:37] ito [56:37] yung [56:38] pinaka [56:38] best [56:38] available [56:39] data [56:39] based [56:40] on [56:41] available [56:41] sa [56:41] websites [56:42] based [56:42] sa mga [56:42] data [56:43] requests [56:43] namin [56:44] kahit [56:45] natingin [56:45] namin [56:45] imperfect [56:46] yung [56:46] data [56:46] yung [56:47] conclusion [56:47] napakalino [56:48] yung [56:49] ibon [56:49] supportahan [56:50] namin [56:50] yung [56:51] panawagan [56:53] for a [56:53] family [56:53] living [56:53] wage [56:54] tignin [56:55] namin [56:55] yung [56:55] family [56:55] living [56:56] wage [56:56] urgent [56:57] just [56:57] and [56:57] doable [56:58] kailangan [56:59] na kailangan [56:59] naman [56:59] gagawa [57:00] kailangan [57:01] na kailangan [57:01] ng [57:01] pabansang [57:02] ekonomiya [57:03] obvious [57:04] na yan [57:04] pero [57:04] worth [57:05] stressing [57:06] yung [57:07] kahirapan [57:08] sa self-aided [57:08] poverty [57:09] lumaki [57:09] from [57:09] 43% [57:10] pagpasok [57:13] to [57:13] over [57:14] 52% [57:15] ngayon [57:16] yung [57:16] inflation [57:16] within [57:17] 2 months [57:18] nag-triple [57:18] siya [57:18] from [57:19] February [57:20] to [57:20] April [57:21] so [57:21] self-animate [57:22] obvious [57:22] naman [57:22] yun [57:23] pero [57:23] malinaw [57:24] lamadalang [57:25] kahirapan [57:25] lalong [57:26] lalala [57:26] sa [57:26] pagtaas [57:27] ng [57:27] presyo [57:27] ng [57:27] bilhin [57:28] next [57:29] side [57:29] po [57:29] sa amin [57:31] nabagit [57:32] na rin [57:32] kanina [57:32] ni [57:33] ni [57:33] Luke [57:33] sobrang [57:35] halagang [57:35] madiin [57:35] yung [57:35] punto [57:36] yung [57:36] regional [57:37] minimum [57:37] wages [57:37] ngayon [57:38] even [57:38] ayon [57:39] dun [57:39] sa [57:39] official [57:39] government [57:40] poverty [57:41] threshold [57:42] ay [57:43] mas malit [57:44] pa sa [57:44] kailangan [57:44] ng [57:44] pamilya [57:45] ng [57:45] lima [57:46] sa [57:47] ngayon [57:47] more or [57:47] less [57:48] 78 [57:48] pesos [57:49] per [57:49] person [57:49] per [57:49] day [57:50] lamang [57:50] yung [57:51] average [57:51] daily [57:51] minimum [57:52] wage [57:52] kumpara [57:53] yan [57:53] dun [57:54] sa [57:54] 99 [57:55] pesos [57:55] per [57:56] person [57:56] per [57:56] day [57:56] na [57:57] kailangan [57:57] ng [57:57] isang [57:57] tao [57:58] nitong [57:59] March [57:59] 2026 [58:00] yung [58:01] 99 [58:01] pesos [58:01] per [58:02] person [58:02] per [58:02] day [58:02] ay [58:03] based [58:03] dun [58:03] sa [58:03] official [58:04] poverty [58:04] threshold [58:05] noong [58:05] 2023 [58:05] na [58:06] 91 [58:07] pesos [58:07] inflated [58:08] to [58:08] 2026 [58:09] prices [58:10] so [58:11] yan [58:11] ang [58:11] counterpoint [58:12] ang [58:12] official [58:12] poverty [58:13] threshold [58:13] inflated [58:14] to [58:15] 2026 [58:15] prices [58:16] ay [58:16] 99 [58:17] pesos [58:17] per [58:17] day [58:17] pero [58:18] yung [58:19] average [58:20] minimum [58:20] wage [58:20] ay [58:21] 78 [58:22] pesos [58:22] per [58:22] day [58:22] lamang [58:23] sa [58:24] aming [58:24] huling [58:24] estimate [58:24] again [58:25] sana [58:26] nakapabigay [58:26] ng [58:26] presentation [58:27] NWPC [58:28] more or [58:29] less [58:29] kalahate [58:30] ng mga [58:30] pamilya [58:31] ay [58:31] isa [58:32] lamang [58:32] ang [58:32] nagatrabaho [58:33] so [58:34] paulit [58:34] ulit [58:34] natin [58:35] didinig [58:35] marami [58:36] magatrabaho [58:37] diyan [58:37] pero [58:37] sa [58:38] katotohanan [58:38] kalahate [58:40] ay isa [58:40] lang [58:40] ang [58:40] nagatrabaho [58:41] sa [58:41] pamilya [58:42] at [58:42] more [58:42] than [58:43] that [58:43] even [58:43] dun [58:44] sa [58:44] 25% [58:45] na [58:46] may [58:46] two [58:46] persons [58:47] hindi [58:47] ibig sabihin [58:48] tama [58:48] yun [58:49] natulak [58:50] lamang [58:50] yan [58:50] dun [58:51] sa [58:51] nagdag [58:52] na [58:52] trabaho [58:52] dahil [58:53] sa [58:53] kahirapan [58:53] next [58:54] slide [58:55] so [58:57] nadyumalabi [58:58] yung [58:59] chart [58:59] pero [58:59] basically [59:00] pinapakita [59:01] dito [59:01] yung [59:02] takbo [59:02] ng [59:02] regional [59:03] minimum [59:03] wages [59:04] since [59:04] 1989 [59:06] main [59:06] conclusion [59:07] yung [59:08] minimum [59:08] wage [59:08] ngayon [59:09] ay [59:09] worth [59:10] 21% [59:10] less [59:11] than [59:12] nung [59:12] July [59:13] 1989 [59:14] upon [59:14] regionalization [59:15] yung [59:16] 89 [59:16] pesos [59:16] sa [59:17] minimum [59:17] wage [59:17] dati [59:18] kung [59:18] i-compare [59:19] natin [59:19] dun sa [59:20] minimum [59:20] wages [59:20] ngayon [59:21] 70 [59:22] pesos [59:22] na [59:22] lang [59:22] halaga [59:23] so [59:23] yung [59:24] minimum [59:24] wage [59:24] earner [59:25] ngayon [59:25] ay [59:25] mas [59:26] maliit [59:26] pa [59:26] ang [59:26] kinikita [59:27] kaysa [59:27] sa [59:27] kanyang [59:27] magulang [59:28] kung [59:28] minimum [59:29] wage [59:29] earner [59:29] na [59:29] kanyang [59:30] magulang [59:30] exception [59:31] dyan [59:31] ay yung [59:32] NCA [59:32] na may [59:32] maliit [59:33] na [59:33] 7% [59:34] increase [59:34] over [59:35] the [59:36] past [59:36] 36 [59:37] years [59:38] next [59:39] side [59:39] po [59:42] again [59:43] chart [59:44] lang [59:44] naman [59:44] pero [59:44] ang [59:45] gusto [59:45] madiin [59:46] dito [59:46] yung [59:47] halaga [59:48] ng [59:48] minimum [59:49] wage [59:49] ay [59:49] bumagsak [59:50] nag [59:50] 7% [59:51] kahit dun [59:52] sa pinagmamalaking [59:53] high growth [59:54] years [59:54] ng [59:55] ekonomiya [59:55] ng [59:56] Pilipinas [59:56] from [59:57] 2003 [59:58] to [59:58] 2016 [59:59] yung [1:00:00] real [1:00:01] value [1:00:02] ng minimum [1:00:02] wage [1:00:02] bumaba [1:00:03] ng [1:00:03] 7% [1:00:04] kailama [1:00:05] din [1:00:05] yan [1:00:05] kasi [1:00:05] ibig [1:00:06] sabihin [1:00:06] may [1:00:07] problema [1:00:07] sa [1:00:07] takbo [1:00:07] ng [1:00:08] ekonomiya [1:00:08] kung [1:00:08] even [1:00:09] sa [1:00:09] panahon [1:00:09] ng [1:00:10] supposedly [1:00:10] napakabilis [1:00:11] sa [1:00:11] paglagu [1:00:12] niya [1:00:12] hindi [1:00:12] naman [1:00:13] nararamdaman [1:00:13] ng [1:00:13] ordinaryong [1:00:14] manggagawa [1:00:15] next [1:00:16] slide [1:00:16] ito [1:00:18] sa amin [1:00:19] ay mahalaga [1:00:19] i [1:00:20] kinocompare [1:00:21] palagi [1:00:22] yung [1:00:22] productivity [1:00:23] dun sa [1:00:23] minimum [1:00:24] wage [1:00:25] gusto [1:00:26] lang [1:00:26] ma-stress [1:00:26] dito [1:00:27] yung [1:00:28] productivity [1:00:28] na [1:00:28] manggagawa [1:00:29] ay [1:00:30] kumingit [1:00:30] dumoble [1:00:31] since [1:00:31] 1989 [1:00:32] pero [1:00:33] yung [1:00:33] kalaga [1:00:36] 14% [1:00:37] kung [1:00:37] ang [1:00:38] gusto [1:00:38] gawin [1:00:38] ng [1:00:38] kongreso [1:00:40] ay [1:00:40] for [1:00:41] parity [1:00:41] lamang [1:00:42] na [1:00:42] isabay [1:00:43] yung [1:00:43] productivity [1:00:43] increase [1:00:44] sa [1:00:44] pagdagdag [1:00:45] ng [1:00:45] sahod [1:00:45] kinakailangan [1:00:47] umabot [1:00:47] sa [1:00:47] 1,240 [1:00:49] pesos [1:00:50] ngayon [1:00:50] ang [1:00:50] minimum [1:00:51] wage [1:00:51] so [1:00:52] again [1:00:52] hindi [1:00:53] yan [1:00:53] usapin [1:00:53] ng [1:00:53] sapat [1:00:55] na ba [1:00:55] o [1:00:55] hindi [1:00:56] kundi [1:00:56] usapin [1:00:57] lamang [1:00:58] ng [1:00:58] ibigay [1:00:58] sa [1:00:59] manggagawa [1:00:59] yung [1:01:00] bahagi [1:01:00] ng [1:01:01] increased [1:01:01] productivity [1:01:02] proportionate [1:01:03] dun sa [1:01:04] takbo [1:01:05] ng [1:01:05] ekonomiya [1:01:06] at [1:01:06] nabigay [1:01:07] ng [1:01:07] contribution [1:01:07] dun sa [1:01:08] mga [1:01:09] negosyo [1:01:09] next slide [1:01:10] ito [1:01:12] simple [1:01:13] conclusion [1:01:14] dito [1:01:14] kung [1:01:15] titignan [1:01:15] yung [1:01:15] takbo [1:01:16] ng [1:01:16] tubo [1:01:16] yaman [1:01:17] at [1:01:18] sahod [1:01:18] at least [1:01:19] dun sa [1:01:20] 2020 [1:01:21] gamit [1:01:22] namin [1:01:22] na [1:01:22] reference [1:01:22] point [1:01:23] dito [1:01:23] para [1:01:23] dun sa [1:01:24] post [1:01:24] pandemic [1:01:24] recovery [1:01:25] kumikit [1:01:26] dumoble [1:01:27] ang tubo [1:01:28] ng [1:01:28] top [1:01:28] 1,000 [1:01:28] corporations [1:01:29] lumaki [1:01:30] ng [1:01:30] 60% [1:01:31] ang [1:01:32] tubo [1:01:32] ng [1:01:32] lahat [1:01:33] ng [1:01:33] establishmento [1:01:34] micro [1:01:34] small [1:01:34] medium [1:01:35] large [1:01:35] yung [1:01:36] net worth [1:01:37] ng [1:01:37] pinakamiamang [1:01:37] Pilipino [1:01:38] lumaki [1:01:38] ng [1:01:39] 31% [1:01:40] pero [1:01:40] yung [1:01:41] nominal [1:01:41] wage [1:01:42] ay [1:01:42] tumaas [1:01:42] lamang [1:01:43] ng [1:01:43] 11% [1:01:44] of [1:01:45] course [1:01:45] tatanggalin [1:01:45] pa dyan [1:01:46] yung [1:01:46] effect [1:01:46] inflation [1:01:47] na [1:01:47] in [1:01:48] net [1:01:49] terms [1:01:49] ay [1:01:49] bumaba [1:01:50] pa [1:01:50] ang [1:01:50] halaga [1:01:51] ng [1:01:51] minimum [1:01:52] wage [1:01:53] next slide [1:01:54] sa [1:01:56] sa [1:01:56] sa [1:01:56] amin [1:01:56] napakalagang [1:01:56] conclusion [1:01:57] ito [1:01:58] yung [1:01:58] average [1:01:58] minimum [1:01:59] wage [1:01:59] nationwide [1:02:00] ngayon [1:02:00] ay [1:02:00] 510 [1:02:01] pesos [1:02:01] lamang [1:02:02] ito [1:02:02] ay [1:02:03] 39% [1:02:04] lamang [1:02:04] ng [1:02:05] family [1:02:05] living [1:02:06] wage [1:02:06] as of [1:02:06] April [1:02:07] 2026 [1:02:08] na [1:02:09] 1,312 [1:02:10] pesos [1:02:11] next slide [1:02:13] kung [1:02:14] gagamitin [1:02:15] natin [1:02:16] na [1:02:16] reference [1:02:16] point [1:02:16] yung [1:02:17] 1,312 [1:02:18] pesos [1:02:18] per [1:02:18] date [1:02:19] na [1:02:19] national [1:02:19] family [1:02:19] living [1:02:20] wage [1:02:20] as of [1:02:20] April [1:02:21] lumalabas [1:02:22] dalawang [1:02:23] katlo [1:02:23] ng [1:02:24] pamilyang [1:02:24] Pilipino [1:02:25] ay [1:02:25] hindi [1:02:25] nga [1:02:25] umaabot [1:02:26] dito [1:02:26] sa [1:02:26] family [1:02:27] living [1:02:27] wage [1:02:28] next slide [1:02:29] ito [1:02:31] ay [1:02:32] based [1:02:32] sa [1:02:32] 2024 [1:02:33] data [1:02:33] yung [1:02:34] nakahighlight [1:02:35] sa [1:02:35] ilalim [1:02:35] may [1:02:36] roughly [1:02:37] 26 [1:02:37] million [1:02:38] wage [1:02:38] and [1:02:38] salary [1:02:38] workers [1:02:39] lumalabas [1:02:40] 94% [1:02:41] ng [1:02:42] mga [1:02:42] manggagawa [1:02:42] ay [1:02:43] hindi [1:02:43] umaabot [1:02:44] sa [1:02:44] family [1:02:44] living [1:02:44] wage [1:02:45] as [1:02:45] of [1:02:45] 2024 [1:02:46] at [1:02:47] may [1:02:47] git [1:02:47] kalahati [1:02:48] actually [1:02:48] 3 [1:02:49] out [1:02:49] to [1:02:50] 5 [1:02:50] workers [1:02:50] ay [1:02:51] at [1:02:53] or [1:02:53] below [1:02:54] yung [1:02:54] national [1:02:54] average [1:02:55] minimum [1:02:55] wage [1:02:56] mahalaga [1:02:57] sa amin [1:02:57] naman din [1:02:58] yung [1:02:58] dinatawag [1:02:59] namin [1:02:59] na [1:02:59] family [1:03:00] living [1:03:01] wage [1:03:02] gap [1:03:02] kung [1:03:02] average [1:03:03] family [1:03:03] living [1:03:03] wage [1:03:04] ngayon [1:03:04] ay [1:03:04] 1,312 [1:03:05] nationwide [1:03:06] yung [1:03:07] average [1:03:07] minimum [1:03:07] wage [1:03:08] ay [1:03:08] 510 [1:03:09] pesos [1:03:09] lamang [1:03:10] ibig [1:03:10] sabihin [1:03:11] yung [1:03:12] 802 [1:03:12] pesos [1:03:13] ay [1:03:13] kailangan [1:03:13] para [1:03:14] idagdag [1:03:14] sa [1:03:15] minimum [1:03:16] wage [1:03:16] sa [1:03:17] ngayon [1:03:17] 61% [1:03:19] ang [1:03:19] shortfall [1:03:20] ng [1:03:20] minimum [1:03:21] wage [1:03:21] sa [1:03:21] family [1:03:22] living [1:03:22] wage [1:03:23] next [1:03:24] slide [1:03:24] paulit-ulit [1:03:26] sinasabi [1:03:26] na [1:03:27] marami [1:03:28] including [1:03:28] ng [1:03:28] gobyerno [1:03:29] including [1:03:29] ng [1:03:29] mga [1:03:29] negasyante [1:03:30] na [1:03:30] napakamahal [1:03:31] ang [1:03:31] sa [1:03:31] sa [1:03:31] Pilipinas [1:03:32] well [1:03:33] ito [1:03:33] ay [1:03:33] isang [1:03:34] reference [1:03:35] lang [1:03:36] from [1:03:36] the [1:03:36] Japanese [1:03:37] External [1:03:38] Trade [1:03:38] Relations [1:03:39] Organization [1:03:39] Itong [1:03:40] huling [1:03:40] nilabas [1:03:41] nilang [1:03:41] report [1:03:41] as of [1:03:42] January [1:03:42] lumalabas [1:03:44] yung [1:03:45] Pilipinas [1:03:45] ay may [1:03:46] fourth [1:03:46] lowest [1:03:46] wages [1:03:47] in [1:03:48] Asia [1:03:48] ang [1:03:49] Singapore [1:03:49] Malaysia [1:03:50] Thailand [1:03:50] Indonesia [1:03:51] Vietnam [1:03:51] ay mas [1:03:52] mataas [1:03:53] ang [1:03:53] bayad [1:03:53] nakakalamang [1:03:54] lamang [1:03:55] Pilipinas [1:03:55] sa [1:03:55] Cambodia [1:03:56] Laos [1:03:57] Myanmar [1:03:57] So [1:03:58] yung [1:03:58] mga [1:03:58] paulit-ulit [1:03:58] sinasabi [1:03:59] napakamahal [1:04:00] ang [1:04:00] sahod [1:04:00] as a [1:04:01] reference [1:04:01] point [1:04:02] from [1:04:02] Japan [1:04:03] the [1:04:03] biggest [1:04:04] foreign [1:04:04] investor [1:04:04] sa [1:04:04] Pilipinas [1:04:05] sa [1:04:07] panilang [1:04:07] survey [1:04:08] fourth [1:04:08] lowest [1:04:08] actually [1:04:09] ang [1:04:09] sweldo [1:04:10] sa [1:04:10] Pilipinas [1:04:11] Next [1:04:11] slide [1:04:12] Ito [1:04:13] yung [1:04:13] pinakauloy [1:04:13] nilabas [1:04:14] sa [1:04:14] NWPC [1:04:14] maganda [1:04:15] kung [1:04:15] makapaglabas [1:04:15] sila [1:04:16] uli [1:04:16] as of [1:04:16] 2022 [1:04:17] fifth [1:04:18] lowest [1:04:18] actually [1:04:19] yung [1:04:19] sahod [1:04:20] sa [1:04:20] Pilipinas [1:04:21] Next [1:04:22] slide [1:04:26] Ano [1:04:27] ba [1:04:27] yung [1:04:27] bahagi [1:04:28] ng [1:04:28] tubo [1:04:29] na [1:04:30] makukuha [1:04:31] sa mga [1:04:31] impresa [1:04:32] kung [1:04:32] magpatupad [1:04:33] ng [1:04:33] family [1:04:34] living [1:04:34] wage [1:04:35] Kung [1:04:36] magbe-base [1:04:37] tayo [1:04:38] dun sa [1:04:38] 2022 [1:04:39] profits [1:04:40] so [1:04:41] underestimate [1:04:41] pa ito [1:04:42] kasi [1:04:42] pagpapalagay [1:04:43] natin [1:04:43] in [1:04:44] 2023 [1:04:45] 2024 [1:04:45] 2025 [1:04:46] we have [1:04:47] to [1:04:47] assume [1:04:48] nag-increase [1:04:48] ang profits [1:04:49] nila [1:04:49] but [1:04:50] even [1:04:50] using [1:04:51] just [1:04:51] 2022 [1:04:51] profits [1:04:52] kung [1:04:53] magbigay [1:04:54] ng [1:04:54] dagdag [1:04:55] na [1:04:55] 542 [1:04:56] pesos [1:04:56] which [1:04:57] is [1:04:57] computed [1:04:57] on [1:04:58] top [1:04:59] of [1:04:59] the [1:04:59] average [1:05:00] daily [1:05:00] basic [1:05:00] pay [1:05:00] ngayon [1:05:01] na [1:05:02] binibigay [1:05:02] sa mga [1:05:03] employees [1:05:06] based [1:05:07] dun [1:05:07] sa [1:05:07] huling [1:05:08] PSA [1:05:09] report [1:05:09] Lilitaw [1:05:10] 32% [1:05:12] worth [1:05:12] of [1:05:12] profits [1:05:13] lamang [1:05:13] ang [1:05:14] mawawala [1:05:14] dun [1:05:15] sa mga [1:05:15] enterprises [1:05:18] of all [1:05:18] sizes [1:05:19] Sa [1:05:20] large [1:05:20] firms [1:05:20] 30% [1:05:22] lamang [1:05:22] mawawala [1:05:22] sa tubo [1:05:23] nila [1:05:23] Sa [1:05:24] medium [1:05:24] firms [1:05:24] 25% [1:05:25] Kung [1:05:26] pipilitin [1:05:27] na even [1:05:27] yung [1:05:27] ma-exempted [1:05:28] na micro [1:05:28] halimbawa [1:05:29] ay tatanggal [1:05:29] yan [1:05:29] well [1:05:30] it's [1:05:30] tatumbas [1:05:31] ng [1:05:31] 41% [1:05:32] ng [1:05:33] kanilang [1:05:33] tubo [1:05:34] Ang [1:05:34] endpoint [1:05:35] namin [1:05:35] dito [1:05:35] ay [1:05:36] again [1:05:37] samsignan [1:05:38] namin [1:05:38] ng [1:05:38] counter [1:05:39] argument [1:05:40] willing [1:05:40] naman [1:05:40] kami [1:05:41] na [1:05:41] imodify [1:05:41] ang aming [1:05:42] mga [1:05:42] patusuri [1:05:42] pero [1:05:43] napakalinaw [1:05:44] as far [1:05:45] as [1:05:45] data [1:05:45] allows [1:05:46] including [1:05:46] government [1:05:47] data [1:05:47] yung [1:05:48] annual [1:05:48] survey [1:05:48] of [1:05:48] philippine [1:05:49] business [1:05:49] industry [1:05:50] ay [1:05:50] merong [1:05:50] 40,000 [1:05:51] respondents [1:05:52] marami [1:05:53] yung [1:05:53] mga [1:05:53] individual [1:05:53] negosyante [1:05:54] binibigay [1:05:54] yung [1:05:54] particular [1:05:55] na [1:05:56] financial [1:05:57] statements [1:05:58] nila [1:05:58] pero [1:05:58] using [1:05:59] the [1:06:00] largest [1:06:00] data [1:06:00] set [1:06:01] ng [1:06:01] establishment [1:06:02] sa [1:06:02] Pilipinas [1:06:02] ASPBI [1:06:04] representing [1:06:05] by the [1:06:06] government's [1:06:06] estimate [1:06:07] about [1:06:07] 300,000 [1:06:08] formal [1:06:08] sector [1:06:08] establishments [1:06:09] malinaw [1:06:10] yung [1:06:10] counter [1:06:11] argument [1:06:11] na [1:06:11] hindi [1:06:12] ma-afford [1:06:12] yung [1:06:12] wage [1:06:13] hike [1:06:13] even [1:06:13] a [1:06:13] family [1:06:14] living [1:06:14] wage [1:06:14] ay [1:06:15] at best [1:06:16] empirically [1:06:16] ambiguous [1:06:17] ikalawa [1:06:18] hindi [1:06:19] taking [1:06:19] nad [1:06:20] yung [1:06:20] second [1:06:20] round [1:06:20] effects [1:06:21] yung [1:06:21] multiplier [1:06:22] effects [1:06:22] at [1:06:23] yung [1:06:23] mga [1:06:23] bagong [1:06:23] opportunities [1:06:24] hindi [1:06:25] lamang [1:06:25] para [1:06:25] sa [1:06:25] mga [1:06:25] manggagawa [1:06:26] kundi [1:06:27] para [1:06:27] sa [1:06:27] mga [1:06:27] negosyo [1:06:28] Kung [1:06:28] yung [1:06:29] mga [1:06:29] employers [1:06:29] ay [1:06:29] hirap [1:06:30] tumingin [1:06:30] lagpas [1:06:30] ng [1:06:30] short [1:06:31] term [1:06:31] tubo [1:06:32] well [1:06:32] papel [1:06:33] ng [1:06:33] gobyerno [1:06:33] to take [1:06:34] the [1:06:34] longer [1:06:34] view [1:06:35] at [1:06:35] realize [1:06:36] na [1:06:36] isang [1:06:37] ekonomiya [1:06:38] na [1:06:38] binibigyan [1:06:38] ng [1:06:38] dagdag [1:06:39] nakita [1:06:39] mga [1:06:39] gagawa [1:06:40] ay [1:06:40] makatulong [1:06:40] hindi [1:06:41] nasa [1:06:41] kanyang [1:06:41] mga [1:06:41] pamilya [1:06:42] kundi [1:06:42] sa [1:06:43] magtakbo [1:06:43] ng [1:06:43] ekonomiya [1:06:44] Next [1:06:45] slide [1:06:45] quick [1:06:45] example [1:06:46] lamang [1:06:46] I'm [1:06:47] sure [1:06:48] sa [1:06:48] mga [1:06:48] darating [1:06:48] na [1:06:48] linggo [1:06:48] darating [1:06:49] na [1:06:49] buwan [1:06:49] makadinig [1:06:50] tayo [1:06:50] ng [1:06:50] mga [1:06:50] reklamo [1:06:51] na [1:06:51] bumubaga [1:06:52] na [1:06:52] ekonomiya [1:06:53] totoo [1:06:53] yun [1:06:53] bumubaga [1:07:03] na [1:07:04] for [1:07:04] four [1:07:04] quarters [1:07:05] now [1:07:05] ay [1:07:05] bumubagal [1:07:06] at [1:07:07] tanggapin [1:07:07] natin [1:07:08] again [1:07:08] using [1:07:08] official [1:07:08] data [1:07:09] 64% [1:07:10] ng [1:07:10] employment [1:07:11] ay [1:07:11] nasa [1:07:11] wage [1:07:12] and [1:07:12] salary [1:07:12] work [1:07:13] ang [1:07:13] punto [1:07:13] malaking [1:07:14] tulak [1:07:14] sa [1:07:15] paglagun [1:07:16] ekonomiya [1:07:17] yung [1:07:17] pagdagdag [1:07:17] sahod [1:07:18] dahil [1:07:18] ito [1:07:19] ay [1:07:19] tulak [1:07:19] sa [1:07:19] household [1:07:20] consumption [1:07:21] wala [1:07:22] dito [1:07:22] pero [1:07:23] may [1:07:23] mahabang [1:07:23] papel [1:07:23] ng [1:07:23] ibon [1:07:24] actually [1:07:25] isang [1:07:25] malaking [1:07:25] salik [1:07:26] dun [1:07:26] sa [1:07:26] mabilis [1:07:27] na [1:07:27] economic [1:07:27] growth [1:07:28] na [1:07:28] sinasabi [1:07:28] noong [1:07:29] previous [1:07:34] mabisa [1:07:34] talaga [1:07:34] yung [1:07:35] wage [1:07:35] hikes [1:07:36] sa usapin [1:07:36] ng [1:07:36] pagtulak [1:07:37] na [1:07:37] ekonomiya [1:07:38] next [1:07:38] slide [1:07:39] also [1:07:40] makatulong [1:07:40] din [1:07:41] hindi [1:07:41] lang [1:07:41] to [1:07:41] arrest [1:07:42] economic [1:07:42] slowdown [1:07:43] makatulong [1:07:44] to [1:07:44] arrest [1:07:44] cheap [1:07:44] labor [1:07:45] export [1:07:45] sa [1:07:46] ngayon [1:07:46] yung [1:07:46] average [1:07:47] monthly [1:07:47] family [1:07:47] living [1:07:48] wage [1:07:48] of [1:07:48] 28,000 [1:07:49] ay [1:07:50] mas [1:07:51] malaki [1:07:51] pa [1:07:51] dun [1:07:52] sa [1:07:52] average [1:07:52] monthly [1:07:53] or [1:07:53] FW [1:07:53] remittance [1:07:54] na [1:07:54] 21,500 [1:07:56] pesos [1:07:56] So [1:07:57] usapin [1:07:57] na [1:07:57] pag [1:07:57] incentivize [1:07:58] sa ating [1:07:58] mga [1:07:59] pababayan [1:08:00] na [1:08:04] living [1:08:04] wage [1:08:04] para [1:08:05] ensure [1:08:05] na [1:08:05] may [1:08:05] sapat [1:08:06] silang [1:08:06] trabaho [1:08:07] at [1:08:07] kita [1:08:07] sa [1:08:07] sariling [1:08:08] bansa [1:08:08] malapit [1:08:10] na [1:08:10] po [1:08:10] matapos [1:08:10] ito [1:08:11] highlight [1:08:12] lang [1:08:12] and [1:08:12] hindi [1:08:13] ko [1:08:13] na [1:08:13] exp [1:08:13] papalawigin [1:08:15] pero [1:08:15] sa [1:08:16] ngayon [1:08:16] alam [1:08:16] naman [1:08:16] natin [1:08:17] gano [1:08:17] kagulo [1:08:17] yung [1:08:18] pandigdig [1:08:18] ng [1:08:18] ekonomiya [1:08:19] alam [1:08:19] natin [1:08:19] ang [1:08:20] isang [1:08:20] ganap [1:08:20] dun [1:08:20] sa [1:08:21] gitnang [1:08:21] silangan [1:08:22] ang [1:08:22] laki [1:08:22] na [1:08:22] epekto [1:08:23] sa [1:08:23] Pilipinas [1:08:23] alam [1:08:24] natin [1:08:24] anong [1:08:24] maging [1:08:25] ganap [1:08:25] sa [1:08:25] Europa [1:08:25] man [1:08:26] yan [1:08:26] o [1:08:26] sa [1:08:26] US [1:08:26] malaking [1:08:27] epekto [1:08:28] sa [1:08:28] Pilipinas [1:08:28] sana [1:08:29] matunawa [1:08:29] ng [1:08:29] gobyerno [1:08:30] sa gitna [1:08:31] ng [1:08:31] paguluan [1:08:31] sa [1:08:32] buong [1:08:32] mundo [1:08:32] may [1:08:32] control [1:08:33] tayo [1:08:33] sa [1:08:33] pambansang [1:08:34] ekonomiya [1:08:34] kung [1:08:35] gusto [1:08:35] natin [1:08:35] ang [1:08:35] wastong [1:08:36] pagpapatubo [1:08:37] ng [1:08:37] ekonomiya [1:08:37] wastong [1:08:38] pagprotekta [1:08:39] sa [1:08:39] mamayang [1:08:39] Pilipino [1:08:40] ang [1:08:40] kinakailangan [1:08:41] ay [1:08:41] domestic [1:08:42] demand [1:08:42] driven [1:08:43] na [1:08:43] ekonomiya [1:08:43] at [1:08:44] yung [1:08:44] domestic [1:08:44] demand [1:08:45] ay [1:08:45] magmumula [1:08:46] primarily [1:08:47] sa [1:08:47] ating [1:08:47] mamanggagawa [1:08:48] so [1:08:48] hindi [1:08:48] tama [1:08:49] niisipin [1:08:49] na [1:08:50] pabigat [1:08:51] na [1:08:51] manggagawa [1:08:51] manggagawa [1:08:52] ay [1:08:52] napapagulong [1:08:53] sa [1:08:53] ating [1:08:54] ekonomiya [1:08:55] manggagawa [1:08:55] ang [1:08:55] napapagulong [1:08:56] sa [1:08:56] ating [1:08:56] merkado [1:08:57] so [1:08:57] napakitid [1:08:58] yung [1:08:59] pag-iisip [1:08:59] na [1:08:59] manggagawa [1:09:00] ay [1:09:01] isang [1:09:01] cost of [1:09:02] production [1:09:02] na [1:09:02] ititipid [1:09:03] mo [1:09:03] kasi [1:09:03] gusto [1:09:04] nyo [1:09:04] dugdaga [1:09:04] ng [1:09:05] yung [1:09:05] kitap [1:09:05] last [1:09:06] point [1:09:06] alam [1:09:07] nyo [1:09:07] ilang [1:09:08] dekada [1:09:08] natin [1:09:08] nagusapan [1:09:09] yung [1:09:09] cheap [1:09:17] di [1:09:18] napakunda [1:09:19] ng [1:09:20] Pilipinas [1:09:20] ilang [1:09:21] dekada [1:09:21] na [1:09:21] yung [1:09:21] ating [1:09:22] cheap [1:09:22] wage [1:09:22] economy [1:09:23] ilang [1:09:23] dekada [1:09:24] na [1:09:24] yung [1:09:24] pag-asa [1:09:24] natin [1:09:25] sa [1:09:25] dayuang [1:09:26] pamumunan [1:09:26] pag-iikahit [1:09:27] for cheap [1:09:28] labor [1:09:28] kung talagang [1:09:29] mabisa [1:09:29] yung [1:09:30] satihin [1:09:30] na [1:09:30] yan [1:09:31] di [1:09:31] napakunda [1:09:31] ng [1:09:31] Pilipinas [1:09:32] sa [1:09:33] tutokanan [1:09:33] ang [1:09:34] nangyari [1:09:34] ngayon [1:09:34] manupaktura [1:09:35] pinakamalit [1:09:36] sa [1:09:36] walong [1:09:37] dekada [1:09:37] agrikultura [1:09:38] pinakamalit [1:09:39] sa [1:09:39] kaisasayan [1:09:40] ng [1:09:40] bansa [1:09:40] ang [1:09:41] punto [1:09:41] ang kailangan [1:09:42] natin [1:09:43] hindi [1:09:43] pagtitipid [1:09:43] sa [1:09:43] manggagawa [1:09:44] ang kailangan [1:09:45] dito [1:09:45] ay [1:09:45] pagpapalakas [1:09:46] ng [1:09:46] pabansang [1:09:47] industriya [1:09:47] pagsuporta [1:09:48] sa [1:09:49] lokal [1:09:49] na [1:09:49] agrikultura [1:09:50] para [1:09:51] sa amin [1:09:52] sa [1:09:52] ibon [1:09:52] yung [1:09:53] family [1:09:53] living [1:09:54] wage [1:09:54] urgent [1:09:56] just [1:09:56] and [1:09:56] doable [1:09:56] kailangan [1:09:57] na [1:09:57] kailangan [1:09:58] manggagawa [1:09:58] makatwiran [1:09:59] at [1:10:00] mahalaga [1:10:00] mahalaga [1:10:01] para [1:10:01] sa [1:10:01] pabansang [1:10:02] ekonomiya [1:10:03] walang [1:10:03] duda [1:10:03] yung [1:10:04] economic [1:10:05] na [1:10:05] batayan [1:10:05] sa [1:10:05] family [1:10:06] living [1:10:06] wage [1:10:06] ay [1:10:06] nandyan [1:10:11] thank you [1:10:16] very much [1:10:16] for your [1:10:19] very [1:10:20] comprehensive [1:10:20] research [1:10:21] let us [1:10:21] now [1:10:22] would like [1:10:22] first to [1:10:23] acknowledge [1:10:25] our [1:10:25] senior [1:10:26] vice [1:10:26] chairperson [1:10:27] honorable [1:10:27] johan [1:10:28] monique [1:10:29] bautista [1:10:29] of [1:10:30] Trabaho [1:10:31] Partilist [1:10:31] of course [1:10:34] would like [1:10:34] to call [1:10:35] on now [1:10:35] mr. [1:10:35] Louis [1:10:35] Corral [1:10:36] of [1:10:36] TUCP [1:10:37] mr. [1:10:41] chair [1:10:41] magadang [1:10:44] umaga [1:10:44] sa ating [1:10:45] mga [1:10:47] resource [1:10:47] persons [1:10:48] mga [1:10:48] tagalang [1:10:49] galang [1:10:49] mga [1:10:49] representante [1:10:51] at [1:10:51] sa [1:10:52] social [1:10:53] partners [1:10:53] po [1:10:53] namin [1:10:54] sa [1:10:54] mga [1:10:56] employers [1:10:56] group [1:10:57] at [1:10:57] sa [1:10:58] dole [1:10:58] nasaan [1:11:00] ho [1:11:00] si [1:11:00] secretary [1:11:01] tolentino [1:11:02] nung [1:11:04] siya [1:11:05] ay [1:11:05] sen [1:11:05] tolentino [1:11:06] siya [1:11:06] ay [1:11:06] kapatid [1:11:07] at [1:11:08] kasama [1:11:08] ng [1:11:08] manggagawa [1:11:10] ngayon [1:11:11] siguro [1:11:11] na [1:11:12] siya [1:11:12] ay [1:11:12] sectol [1:11:13] na [1:11:13] ay [1:11:14] dapat [1:11:14] hindi [1:11:14] siya [1:11:15] maging [1:11:16] iba [1:11:17] at [1:11:18] patuloy [1:11:18] siyang [1:11:19] maging [1:11:19] toll [1:11:19] ng [1:11:20] manggagawa [1:11:20] tinatanong [1:11:23] namin [1:11:23] yan [1:11:24] dahil [1:11:25] bukod [1:11:26] tangi [1:11:27] ang [1:11:27] aking [1:11:27] representasyon [1:11:29] ngayon [1:11:29] dito [1:11:29] ako [1:11:31] po [1:11:31] ay [1:11:31] present [1:11:32] nung [1:11:32] pinasa [1:11:33] nung [1:11:33] 1989 [1:11:34] yung [1:11:35] wage [1:11:36] bill [1:11:36] ganun [1:11:37] katagal [1:11:40] ko [1:11:40] nang [1:11:41] sinusubaybayan [1:11:43] itong [1:11:44] issue [1:11:44] na to [1:11:45] kaya [1:11:47] sinasabi [1:11:48] din [1:11:48] namin [1:11:48] kay [1:11:49] sectol [1:11:50] at [1:11:50] sa [1:11:51] economic [1:11:51] managers [1:11:52] at [1:11:53] sa [1:11:53] kongreso [1:11:54] ang [1:11:55] pag-asa [1:11:56] at [1:11:56] inaasahan [1:11:57] ng [1:11:58] ating [1:11:58] lahat [1:11:58] ng [1:11:58] mga [1:11:59] manggagawa [1:11:59] ay [1:12:00] sana [1:12:01] huwag [1:12:01] tayong [1:12:01] mabudal [1:12:02] ulit [1:12:03] noong [1:12:05] 1989 [1:12:05] nagkaroon [1:12:06] ho [1:12:06] ng [1:12:06] 40% [1:12:07] increase [1:12:08] sa [1:12:08] minimum [1:12:09] wage [1:12:09] yun [1:12:10] po [1:12:10] ang [1:12:10] pinakamadas [1:12:11] pagtas [1:12:12] ng [1:12:13] level [1:12:13] ng [1:12:14] minimum [1:12:14] wage [1:12:15] hindi [1:12:16] po [1:12:16] sumabog [1:12:17] ang [1:12:17] ekonomiya [1:12:18] hindi [1:12:19] ho [1:12:19] lumala [1:12:20] ang [1:12:21] unemployment [1:12:21] hindi [1:12:22] sumama [1:12:23] ang [1:12:24] inflation [1:12:24] at [1:12:25] nagkatoon [1:12:26] na yung [1:12:27] wage [1:12:27] increase [1:12:27] na yun [1:12:28] ay [1:12:29] in the [1:12:29] context [1:12:29] of [1:12:30] three [1:12:30] attempts [1:12:31] kaya [1:12:32] meron [1:12:32] tayong [1:12:33] natural [1:12:34] na [1:12:35] karanasan [1:12:35] na [1:12:36] hindi [1:12:37] nakatali [1:12:39] ang [1:12:39] pagtaas [1:12:40] ng [1:12:40] sahod [1:12:41] sa [1:12:42] pagtaas [1:12:42] ng [1:12:42] inflation [1:12:43] at [1:12:44] pagtaas [1:12:45] ng [1:12:45] unemployment [1:12:46] sana [1:12:49] wala [1:12:50] na [1:12:50] tayong [1:12:50] pinag-uusapan [1:12:51] ngayon [1:12:52] chairman [1:12:52] kasama [1:12:53] tayo [1:12:53] sa [1:12:54] senado [1:12:55] nung [1:12:56] sa [1:12:57] bicam [1:12:57] chairman [1:12:58] revilla [1:12:59] sana [1:13:00] wala [1:13:01] na tayong [1:13:01] pinag-uusapan [1:13:02] ngayong [1:13:02] umaga [1:13:02] kung [1:13:04] hindi [1:13:04] lang [1:13:04] nagbabala [1:13:05] yung [1:13:05] mga [1:13:05] economic [1:13:06] managers [1:13:07] dun [1:13:08] sa [1:13:08] pag-meeting [1:13:08] natin [1:13:09] kay [1:13:09] senate [1:13:10] president [1:13:11] chis [1:13:12] escudero [1:13:13] kung [1:13:13] natatandaan [1:13:14] ninyo [1:13:14] sa [1:13:15] last [1:13:15] three [1:13:15] days [1:13:16] ng [1:13:16] session [1:13:16] ng [1:13:17] 19th [1:13:17] congress [1:13:18] nang [1:13:19] hinaharap [1:13:20] na [1:13:20] natin [1:13:20] yung [1:13:20] dapat [1:13:21] na [1:13:21] nagyaring [1:13:22] bicameral [1:13:23] conference [1:13:23] committee [1:13:24] pag-insama [1:13:25] tayo [1:13:25] doon [1:13:26] ni congressman [1:13:27] mendoza [1:13:28] ni congresswoman [1:13:30] ng [1:13:31] gabriela [1:13:31] at [1:13:33] nandun [1:13:33] tayo [1:13:34] sa [1:13:34] office [1:13:36] ng [1:13:36] inyong [1:13:36] ama [1:13:36] anong [1:13:40] sabi [1:13:40] ho [1:13:40] ng [1:13:40] economic [1:13:41] managers [1:13:41] dun [1:13:43] sa [1:13:43] hinihiging [1:13:43] nating [1:13:44] dalawang [1:13:44] daang [1:13:45] pagtaas [1:13:45] ng [1:13:45] sahod [1:13:46] sabi [1:13:47] nila [1:13:48] tataas [1:13:49] daw [1:13:49] ang [1:13:50] unemployment [1:13:51] ng [1:13:52] 300,000 [1:13:53] tumaas [1:13:55] na po [1:13:55] ng [1:13:55] 350,000 [1:13:57] ang [1:13:57] dagdag [1:13:58] na [1:13:59] unemployment [1:13:59] year [1:14:00] to [1:14:00] year [1:14:00] based [1:14:01] on [1:14:01] the [1:14:01] labor [1:14:02] force [1:14:02] survey [1:14:02] nila [1:14:05] natataas [1:14:07] daw [1:14:07] ang [1:14:08] inflation [1:14:09] ng [1:14:09] 2% [1:14:10] alam [1:14:11] na [1:14:12] ho [1:14:12] natin [1:14:12] sa [1:14:12] presentasyon [1:14:13] ng [1:14:14] ibon [1:14:14] tumaas [1:14:15] ng [1:14:15] 6.8 [1:14:16] may [1:14:16] all-time [1:14:17] high [1:14:17] ng [1:14:17] 7.2% [1:14:19] the highest [1:14:19] in [1:14:20] 3 years [1:14:20] kinasabi [1:14:22] nila [1:14:22] na [1:14:23] yung [1:14:23] GDP [1:14:24] ay [1:14:25] mababa [1:14:27] sa [1:14:27] 1.8% [1:14:28] 2.6% [1:14:31] na ho [1:14:32] ang ating [1:14:32] GDP [1:14:33] ngayong [1:14:33] first quarter [1:14:34] ng [1:14:34] 2026 [1:14:36] at [1:14:37] sinasabi [1:14:38] nila [1:14:38] na [1:14:39] lalala [1:14:40] ang [1:14:40] ekonomiya [1:14:41] lahat [1:14:43] dito [1:14:43] ang [1:14:44] nagnyari [1:14:44] without [1:14:45] a [1:14:46] 200 [1:14:46] pesos [1:14:47] wage [1:14:48] increase [1:14:49] so [1:14:50] malinaw [1:14:51] na [1:14:52] sila po [1:14:53] nagkamali [1:14:54] sa nilang [1:14:55] huli [1:14:55] bakit [1:14:57] pinapaniwalaan [1:14:58] pa ng [1:14:58] ating [1:14:59] kongreso [1:14:59] at [1:15:00] ng [1:15:01] ating [1:15:01] pangulo [1:15:02] ang [1:15:02] economic [1:15:03] managers [1:15:04] natin [1:15:04] kung [1:15:05] sila [1:15:05] ay [1:15:05] off [1:15:08] the [1:15:09] mark [1:15:09] yung [1:15:12] pangalawang [1:15:13] punto [1:15:13] ay [1:15:14] tungkol [1:15:15] dito [1:15:15] sa [1:15:16] ating [1:15:16] issue [1:15:16] ng [1:15:17] wage [1:15:20] issue [1:15:23] as [1:15:23] it [1:15:24] relates [1:15:24] to [1:15:24] MSME [1:15:25] tama [1:15:27] ho [1:15:27] yung [1:15:27] sinasabi [1:15:28] ng [1:15:28] ating [1:15:28] mga [1:15:29] representatives [1:15:30] at [1:15:31] mga [1:15:31] resource [1:15:32] persons [1:15:33] 99.9% [1:15:35] na [1:15:36] ang [1:15:36] employed [1:15:37] sa [1:15:37] MSMEs [1:15:39] so [1:15:39] sila po [1:15:40] ay [1:15:40] exempted [1:15:41] sila po [1:15:43] ay [1:15:43] exempt [1:15:44] under [1:15:44] the [1:15:45] Bambi [1:15:45] law [1:15:45] from [1:15:46] the [1:15:46] coverage [1:15:46] of [1:15:47] minimum [1:15:47] wage [1:15:48] legislation [1:15:48] kaya [1:15:50] yung [1:15:50] argument [1:15:51] na [1:15:51] yun [1:15:52] ay [1:15:52] hindi [1:15:53] pwedeng [1:15:54] bigyan [1:15:54] ng [1:15:55] credible [1:15:58] support [1:15:58] based [1:15:59] on [1:16:00] the [1:16:00] data [1:16:00] Mr. [1:16:02] Chairman [1:16:02] hindi [1:16:03] po [1:16:04] mahirap [1:16:04] ang [1:16:05] Pilipinas [1:16:05] pero [1:16:07] marami [1:16:07] pong [1:16:07] naghihirap [1:16:09] na [1:16:09] Pilipino [1:16:10] habang [1:16:12] lumalaki [1:16:12] ang tubo [1:16:13] ng [1:16:13] iilan [1:16:14] paliit [1:16:16] ng paliit [1:16:17] ang [1:16:18] umaabot [1:16:19] sa [1:16:19] hapag [1:16:20] ng [1:16:21] ating [1:16:21] mga [1:16:21] manggagawa [1:16:22] meron na [1:16:24] tayong [1:16:24] dalawang [1:16:25] trilyonaryo [1:16:26] kung [1:16:26] isasama [1:16:26] natin [1:16:27] si [1:16:27] Sen. [1:16:28] Villar [1:16:28] at [1:16:29] si [1:16:30] Enrique [1:16:30] Queirazon [1:16:31] subalit [1:16:33] merong [1:16:33] 5 [1:16:34] million [1:16:35] minimum [1:16:35] na [1:16:36] kahit [1:16:36] magtrabaho [1:16:37] nakasama [1:16:39] ng kanilang [1:16:40] anak [1:16:40] at apo [1:16:40] ay [1:16:41] hindi [1:16:42] kailanman [1:16:43] aabutin [1:16:44] ang [1:16:44] kakarampot [1:16:46] na [1:16:47] porsyento [1:16:48] ng [1:16:49] kayamanan [1:16:50] ng [1:16:51] iilan [1:16:51] Mr. [1:16:53] Chairman [1:16:54] ang [1:16:54] issue [1:16:55] dito [1:16:55] sa ating [1:16:56] hearing [1:16:56] ngayon [1:16:57] ay [1:16:58] hindi [1:16:58] kong [1:16:58] kakayanin [1:16:59] ng [1:17:00] ating [1:17:00] ekonomiya [1:17:01] ang [1:17:01] 200 [1:17:02] pesos [1:17:02] wage [1:17:03] increase [1:17:03] kundi [1:17:05] kong [1:17:05] kakayanin [1:17:06] pa [1:17:07] ng [1:17:07] manggagawang [1:17:08] Pilipino [1:17:08] ang [1:17:10] sahod [1:17:11] na [1:17:12] hindi [1:17:12] bumubuhay [1:17:14] sa [1:17:14] kanilang [1:17:14] mga [1:17:14] pamilya [1:17:15] Mr. [1:17:16] Chairman [1:17:17] Salamat [1:17:17] po [1:17:18] Thank you [1:17:19] very [1:17:19] much [1:17:20] Let us [1:17:23] now move [1:17:23] on to [1:17:24] the [1:17:26] employers [1:17:26] group [1:17:27] Mr. [1:17:28] Butch [1:17:29] Guerrero [1:17:29] of PCCI [1:17:30] Okay [1:17:34] Ecop [1:17:35] Governor [1:17:37] Ms. [1:17:38] Clarine [1:17:39] Tobias [1:17:39] Good morning [1:17:42] Mr. [1:17:42] Chair [1:17:42] and good [1:17:43] morning [1:17:43] everyone [1:17:43] I'd like [1:17:45] to read [1:17:45] first the [1:17:46] summary in [1:17:47] the interest [1:17:47] of time [1:17:48] first for [1:17:48] the mandatory [1:17:49] minimum wage [1:17:51] increase [1:17:51] the Ecop [1:17:53] of course [1:17:54] we do not [1:17:54] support the [1:17:55] proposed [1:17:56] mandatory [1:17:56] nationwide [1:17:57] increases [1:17:58] while [1:17:59] while workers [1:18:00] deserve [1:18:00] higher [1:18:01] wages [1:18:01] these [1:18:02] bills [1:18:03] bypassed [1:18:03] the [1:18:04] existing [1:18:04] wage [1:18:05] setting [1:18:05] process [1:18:06] and [1:18:06] could [1:18:07] lead [1:18:07] the [1:18:07] business [1:18:08] closure [1:18:08] job [1:18:09] losses [1:18:09] inflation [1:18:10] and [1:18:11] reduced [1:18:11] investment [1:18:12] Ano [1:18:13] Ano [1:18:13] po ang [1:18:13] main [1:18:13] argument [1:18:14] Ecop [1:18:15] The [1:18:16] bills [1:18:16] bypass [1:18:17] the [1:18:17] existing [1:18:17] wage [1:18:18] setting [1:18:18] process [1:18:19] under [1:18:19] the [1:18:20] regional [1:18:20] tripartite [1:18:21] wages [1:18:21] and [1:18:22] productivity [1:18:23] boards [1:18:23] Most [1:18:24] beneficiaries [1:18:25] would be [1:18:26] formal [1:18:27] sector [1:18:28] workers [1:18:28] while [1:18:29] the [1:18:29] majority [1:18:30] of the [1:18:30] Filipino [1:18:31] workers [1:18:31] are in [1:18:32] the [1:18:32] informal [1:18:32] sector [1:18:33] Small [1:18:34] businesses [1:18:35] may be [1:18:35] forced [1:18:36] to reduce [1:18:36] employees [1:18:37] or close [1:18:38] Higher [1:18:39] wages [1:18:39] could increase [1:18:40] inflation [1:18:41] higher [1:18:42] labor [1:18:42] costs [1:18:43] may [1:18:43] discourage [1:18:44] investments [1:18:45] and [1:18:45] businesses [1:18:46] may [1:18:46] automate [1:18:47] jobs [1:18:47] or [1:18:48] shift [1:18:48] to [1:18:48] contractual [1:18:49] work [1:18:49] So what [1:18:51] does [1:18:51] Ecop [1:18:52] recommend? [1:18:53] We reject [1:18:53] the proposed [1:18:54] bills [1:18:55] in the [1:18:55] current [1:18:55] form [1:18:56] as they [1:18:56] bypass [1:18:57] the [1:18:57] existing [1:18:58] wage [1:18:58] setting [1:18:58] mechanism [1:18:59] retain [1:19:00] the [1:19:01] tripartite [1:19:01] wage [1:19:02] setting [1:19:03] process [1:19:04] where [1:19:04] wages [1:19:05] adjustment [1:19:05] considered [1:19:06] employers [1:19:07] capacity [1:19:07] regional [1:19:09] economic [1:19:09] condition [1:19:10] and [1:19:10] industry [1:19:11] specific [1:19:11] factors [1:19:12] we [1:19:13] promote [1:19:14] productivity [1:19:14] based [1:19:15] wage [1:19:16] increase [1:19:16] through [1:19:17] existing [1:19:17] programs [1:19:18] of the [1:19:18] NWPC [1:19:19] rather [1:19:20] than [1:19:21] legislating [1:19:22] across [1:19:22] the [1:19:22] board [1:19:23] wages [1:19:23] develop [1:19:24] targeted [1:19:25] social [1:19:26] protection [1:19:26] programs [1:19:27] for [1:19:27] informal [1:19:28] workers [1:19:28] including [1:19:29] simplified [1:19:30] registrations [1:19:31] and [1:19:32] initiative [1:19:32] that [1:19:33] encourage [1:19:33] formal [1:19:34] employment [1:19:35] since [1:19:36] most [1:19:36] Filipino [1:19:36] workers [1:19:37] are [1:19:37] outside [1:19:38] the [1:19:38] formal [1:19:38] sector [1:19:39] continue [1:19:40] and [1:19:41] genuine [1:19:42] continue [1:19:43] genuine [1:19:44] tripartite [1:19:45] dialogue [1:19:45] among [1:19:46] government [1:19:46] employers [1:19:47] and labor [1:19:48] groups [1:19:48] before [1:19:49] adopting [1:19:49] major [1:19:50] wage [1:19:50] policies [1:19:51] in other [1:19:52] words [1:19:52] kasi po [1:19:53] your [1:19:53] honor [1:19:53] hindi [1:19:54] lang [1:19:54] naman [1:19:54] sweldo [1:19:55] ang [1:19:55] concern [1:19:56] natin [1:19:56] sa [1:19:57] employer [1:19:58] sector [1:19:58] we [1:19:59] also [1:19:59] have [1:19:59] to [1:19:59] consider [1:20:00] the [1:20:00] distortion [1:20:01] kung [1:20:02] mag [1:20:02] 200 [1:20:02] tayo [1:20:03] may [1:20:03] difference [1:20:04] yun [1:20:04] lahat [1:20:05] po [1:20:05] yun [1:20:05] epektado [1:20:06] papatong [1:20:07] yan [1:20:07] another [1:20:08] is also [1:20:08] the [1:20:09] mandatories [1:20:09] yung [1:20:10] mandatories [1:20:11] may [1:20:11] equivalent [1:20:12] siyang [1:20:12] amount [1:20:12] so [1:20:13] tataas [1:20:13] din [1:20:14] yun [1:20:14] aside [1:20:14] from [1:20:15] that [1:20:15] we [1:20:15] have [1:20:15] also [1:20:16] compliances [1:20:17] the [1:20:18] reason [1:20:18] why [1:20:18] we [1:20:19] are [1:20:19] really [1:20:19] pushing [1:20:20] for [1:20:20] the [1:20:20] RTWPB [1:20:21] kasi [1:20:22] per [1:20:22] industry [1:20:23] and [1:20:23] per [1:20:24] sector [1:20:24] iba-iba [1:20:25] yung [1:20:25] income [1:20:25] ng [1:20:26] BPO [1:20:27] iba-iba [1:20:27] ang [1:20:27] sari-sari [1:20:28] store [1:20:28] then [1:20:29] in the [1:20:29] province [1:20:30] meron po [1:20:31] tayong [1:20:31] consultation [1:20:32] tinatawag [1:20:34] natin [1:20:34] ang mga [1:20:34] business [1:20:35] sector [1:20:35] ang mga [1:20:36] micro [1:20:36] and [1:20:36] labor [1:20:37] then [1:20:38] we [1:20:38] talk [1:20:39] among [1:20:39] ourselves [1:20:40] and [1:20:41] also [1:20:41] we [1:20:41] also [1:20:42] want [1:20:42] to [1:20:42] solicit [1:20:43] the [1:20:43] support [1:20:44] of [1:20:44] the [1:20:44] government [1:20:45] that [1:20:45] the [1:20:45] government [1:20:46] should [1:20:46] also [1:20:46] step [1:20:47] up [1:20:47] because [1:20:48] we [1:20:48] are [1:20:48] tripartite [1:20:49] so [1:20:50] kasi [1:20:51] normally [1:20:52] ang [1:20:52] mga [1:20:52] negosyante [1:20:53] tama [1:20:53] minimum [1:20:54] ka [1:20:54] pero [1:20:55] we [1:20:55] want [1:20:56] to [1:20:56] retain [1:20:58] good [1:20:58] employees [1:20:59] whether [1:20:59] we [1:20:59] like [1:21:00] it [1:21:00] or [1:21:00] not [1:21:00] we [1:21:00] really [1:21:00] have [1:21:01] to [1:21:01] give [1:21:02] them [1:21:02] an [1:21:02] increase [1:21:02] by [1:21:04] merits [1:21:04] if [1:21:05] if [1:21:05] the [1:21:06] employee [1:21:06] skilled [1:21:07] and [1:21:08] he [1:21:09] can [1:21:10] run [1:21:10] the [1:21:10] business [1:21:11] or [1:21:12] the [1:21:12] work [1:21:13] properly [1:21:13] we [1:21:14] are [1:21:15] minimum [1:21:17] wages [1:21:17] we are [1:21:18] not [1:21:18] saying [1:21:19] not [1:21:21] but [1:21:21] we [1:21:22] have [1:21:22] to [1:21:22] do [1:21:22] process [1:21:23] and [1:21:24] consultation [1:21:24] so [1:21:25] we can [1:21:26] hear [1:21:26] all [1:21:27] the [1:21:27] sentiments [1:21:28] of [1:21:28] the [1:21:29] labor [1:21:30] and [1:21:30] employer [1:21:31] sector [1:21:31] and [1:21:32] please [1:21:32] thank you [1:21:33] thank you [1:21:34] sir [1:21:35] nandyan [1:21:36] yung [1:21:37] kmu [1:21:37] baka [1:21:37] pwede [1:21:38] nating [1:21:38] marinig [1:21:39] yes [1:21:46] let's [1:21:47] move on [1:21:47] to [1:21:47] PCCI [1:21:48] Mr. [1:21:49] Thank you for inviting me, Mr. Chair, and for the labor groups and the employer groups. [1:22:07] Mr. Chair, distinguished members of the committee, every employer in this room wants Filipino workers to earn more. [1:22:17] We all want higher wages, better lives, and greater opportunities for our people. [1:22:22] But we also have a responsibility to ensure that the policies we enact today do not destroy the very jobs we seek to protect tomorrow. [1:22:34] A legislated 200 peso across the board wage increase is not just another wage adjustment. [1:22:42] It is a structural change to the Philippine economy. [1:22:45] It deserves careful deliberation because the consequences will be far-reaching. [1:22:50] The first consequence is inflation. [1:22:53] Businesses do not operate in a vacuum. [1:22:57] When labor costs rise sharply without corresponding productivity gains, those costs are inevitable passed on through labor higher prices. [1:23:08] Food, transportation, healthcare, housing, and basic services all become more expensive. [1:23:15] Workers may receive higher wages, but if inflation erodes their purchasing power, as what Sunny Africa just said on his study, we will have solved one problem only by creating another. [1:23:32] In 2023, the Philippines experienced an average inflation rate of 6%, which is reflected by the EBON study, with food inflation peaking above 8%, already straining household budgets. [1:23:48] Studies by the BSP have shown that wage increases not matched by productivity can contribute to second-round inflation effects, further pushing prices upward across sectors. [1:24:02] The second consequence is competitiveness. [1:24:07] The Philippines is no longer competing only with ourselves. [1:24:11] We are competing every single day with Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, and the rest of the ASEAN for investments that create jobs. [1:24:24] Vietnam continues to attract manufacturers because it offers competitive labor costs, efficient ports, stable policies, and a government singularly focused on industrial growth. [1:24:37] In fact, Vietnam attracted over 36 billion U.S. dollars in foreign direct investment. [1:24:44] Compared to the Philippines, we only attracted only 9 billion U.S. dollars. [1:24:51] Thailand has invested for decades in productivity, automation, supply chains, and advanced manufacturing. [1:24:58] Toyota already moved to Thailand. [1:25:01] Vietnam continues to gain foreign direct investments coming from the Philippines, and even Philippine companies are relocating to Vietnam. [1:25:14] GDP, 27% of its GDP compared to roughly 18% in the Philippines. [1:25:21] Investors are asking one question. [1:25:24] Where is the best place to build the next factory? [1:25:29] If the answer is not in the Philippines, then the jobs of the future will not be in the Philippines. [1:25:36] And today, there is a third competitor that did not exist a decade ago. [1:25:44] AI. [1:25:44] May narinig ako. [1:25:45] Artificial intelligence and robotics. [1:25:48] Companies no longer have only one option when labor becomes expensive. [1:25:53] They can relocate to another country or they can eliminate jobs altogether through automation. [1:25:59] Nakita na ho namin yan nung pagpunta ho namin sa China. [1:26:03] Two to three workers na lang ang nasa floor. [1:26:05] AI-powered customer service, automated warehouses, robotic manufacturing, autonomous logistics, and intelligent production systems are no longer concepts of the future. [1:26:22] They are today's businesses. [1:26:24] We always see that in the platform economy, yung mga Lazada, that they're doing regression analysis on the delivery schedules. [1:26:33] According to the International Federation of Robotics, global installations of industrial robots reached over 500,000 units in 2022, with ASIA accounting for more than 70% of deployments. [1:26:50] Meanwhile, McKinsey estimates that up to 50% of current worker activities globally could be automated using existing technology. [1:26:59] Capital now moves faster than legislation, investment follows productivity, productability, and competitiveness. [1:27:09] At the same time, global trade is changing consumer markets. [1:27:13] Rice, meat, vegetables, processed food, and manufactured goods can increasingly be sourced from countries with lower production costs. [1:27:22] Example, we now import rice from Thailand, raising the cost of producing goods locally while other countries produce them more efficiently. [1:27:34] The Philippines risk becoming merely a consumer economy, importing what other manufacture instead of producing it ourselves in 2023. [1:27:45] The Philippines recorded to trade deficit exceeding US$50 billion, highlighting our growing reliance on imports over domestic production. [1:27:56] A nation cannot consume its way to prosperity if factories close. [1:28:00] Na intindihan namin kayo, if investments move elsewhere, and if automation replaces jobs faster than we create new ones, it is our workers, not businesses, who will suffer the greatest loss. [1:28:14] The answer is not to suppress wage growth. [1:28:17] The answer is to make wage growth sustainable. [1:28:20] Let us increase productivity. [1:28:22] Let us reduce electricity costs. [1:28:24] Ang dami hong nagre-reclame sa amin sa power. [1:28:27] Logistic costs and the burden of excessive regulation. [1:28:31] Let us modernize our infrastructure, strengthen technical education, embrace AI, and make the Philippines the most competitive investment destination in ASEAN. [1:28:42] Because in today's economy, countries are no longer competing on wages alone. [1:28:47] They are competing on productivity, innovation, speed, and certainty. [1:28:53] Let us not pass legislation that may win a plus today, but cost hundreds of thousands of jobs tomorrow. [1:29:01] Let us choose a path that delivers what every Filipino deserves. [1:29:05] Higher wages supported by higher productivity, lower inflation, stronger investments, and lasting employment. [1:29:14] That is the path to shared prosperity. [1:29:17] Salamat po, Mr. Chair. [1:29:18] Thank you. [1:29:20] Wala mong move on to Attorney Kurt Tanyada of PIMAP. [1:29:22] Good morning, Mr. Chair. [1:29:27] Thank you for this invitation. [1:29:29] And also, good morning to the members of the committee. [1:29:32] So, for PIMAP, let me just read a summary of our comments and suggestions in relation to the proposed increase in minimum wage. [1:29:43] So, PIMAP extends support to the proposed increase in minimum wage. [1:29:47] In fact, any measures aimed at alleviating the lives of the workers are lauded and commended by PIMAP. [1:29:59] However, such measures should be made in consideration of all stakeholders, including the employers, regardless of the size of the business. [1:30:09] Employers should not be left alone with this burden, and the proposed measures entailed the employer's additional operational costs, not just on the basic wage, but also on statutory labor standards benefits and production costs as well. [1:30:27] Resultantly, these additional costs, and fundamentally will result in the generation of less job or reduction of manpower, rendering futile the aim of these proposed measures. [1:30:42] Some employers, in order to maintain their workforce, would pass the additional expenses or costs to their consumers or customers. [1:30:50] In turn, employees who should stand to enjoy the increase in minimum wage will be spending more and taking less money because of the increase in their personal expenses. [1:31:07] PIMAP is not in any way opposing the proposals to increase the minimum wage, as the association understands the clamor for a higher take-home pay. [1:31:16] However, such measures should be made through a phased approach, and the burden should not be passed to the employer sector alone. [1:31:26] The interest of all concerned stakeholders, both the employers and the employer sector, should be considered. [1:31:33] With this, PIMAP strongly suggests for the government to take an active role in elevating the employment sector by also implementing measures aimed at economic development and improve economic performance in order to ease the burden on the employers that may be brought about by the increase in minimum wage. [1:31:52] This is for the benefit of both the employers and the employees. [1:31:55] And lastly, PIMAP also suggests for the increase of the tax-except threshold from $250,000, as well as to revisit existing cash assistance to include vertical and horizontal expansion in times of crisis. [1:32:11] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [1:32:13] Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. [1:32:15] Yes, Representative Eli, you're now recognized. [1:32:18] Maraming salamat po, Mr. Chair. [1:32:20] Before we proceed po sa ilang mga kasama natin dito sa tabulwagang ito, much has been said, Mr. Chair, about the refutations against what has been raised, have been raised by our partners in the business. [1:32:39] Ulit-ulit na lang po yan, Mr. Chair. [1:32:42] Inflation, unemployment, etc., etc. [1:32:44] The same arguments na ginamit noon, yun pa rin ang ginagamit hanggang ngayon. [1:32:49] Ah, gusto ko lang po balikan, Mr. Chair, before may ilang katanungan po sa ating mga kasama. [1:32:56] In 1951, the national or the minimum wage law was passed. [1:33:02] Alam niyo po ang argument ng mga tumututol during that time, President Quirino's term, kapag ipinasa yung batas na yan, babagsak ang ekonomiya. [1:33:12] In 1989, RA 6727 was passed, along with a 40% increase in the wages of workers. [1:33:24] Those who oppose that bill or those who oppose the legislated wage increase use the same argument, Mr. Chair. [1:33:31] Kapag itinaas ang sahod ng mga manggagawa, this was in 1989, kapag itinaas ang sahod ng mga manggagawa, babagsak ang ekonomiya. [1:33:39] Mag-aapat na dekada na po, Mr. Chair, ngayon nag-uusap ulit tayo ng legislated wage increase. [1:33:45] The same argument, Mr. Chair, the argument that was raised in 1951, in 1989, and now in 2026. [1:33:54] Pare-parehas po ang mga argumento na binabanggit na kapag itinaas ang sahod ng mga manggagawa, [1:34:00] hindi kakayanin ang ekonomiya, magkakaroon ng malawakang tanggalan sa trabaho, [1:34:04] hindi makokontrol ang pagtaas ng presyo ng mga bilihin. [1:34:07] Alam niyo po, Mr. Chair, since 1989, wala namang naganap na legislated wage increase. [1:34:12] Kaya hindi ko po maintindihan sa mga partners natin sa negosyo kung ano po yung binabanggit, [1:34:17] ano yung kanilang empirical basis in saying that when we pass legislated wage increase, [1:34:24] e babagsak po ang ating ekonomiya. [1:34:26] Kaya meron po akong tanong sa National Wages and Productivity Commission, Mr. Chair. [1:34:31] The question is very simple, Mr. Chair, for the National Wages and Productivity Commission. [1:34:37] Kasi po, alam naman na natin ang posisyon ng business, alam na rin natin ang posisyon ng labor. [1:34:44] So ngayon, dapat pumasok ang gobyerno. [1:34:48] Tutal, nag-uusap po tayo ng tripartism. [1:34:50] So the question is very simple. [1:34:52] Ano po ang tindig ng National Wages and Productivity Commission? [1:34:55] Kayo po ba ay naniniwala na dapat itaas ang sahod o hindi? [1:35:07] Good morning po again, Mr. Chair. [1:35:10] Ang NWPC po, we don't take posisyon. [1:35:13] Our mandate is to provide you with technical inputs. [1:35:16] And it's up to the Congress to appreciate those inputs. [1:35:19] So, playing safe po ang NWPC. [1:35:23] The question is answerable ba? Yes or no po? [1:35:26] Umiiwas po ang NWPC at dole. [1:35:28] The question is simple and direct. [1:35:31] Naniniwala ba ang National Wages and Productivity Commission na dapat itaas ang sahod? [1:35:36] Yes or no? [1:35:38] May gusto lang po akong i-announce din. [1:35:41] Breaking news. [1:35:42] Labor Secretary Tolentino announces a wage increase of 85 pesos per day in Metro Manila. [1:35:48] He says 1.1 million minimum wage earners will benefit from the historic increase. [1:35:55] Salamat po at may 85 pesos pero bariya pa rin po yan. [1:35:58] Balik po tayo sa NWPC. [1:36:00] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [1:36:03] May pinagpapauna na po ng mga manggagawa. [1:36:06] Nagpapasalamat kami. [1:36:07] Merong tasahod pero tinitindigan namin bariya yung 85 pesos na yan. [1:36:12] Kung may naniniwala, yung mga taga-regional wage boards na sapat yung 85 pesos, [1:36:17] I am challenging the entire NWPC, the RTWPBs, mauna kayo mag minimum wage. [1:36:24] Tapos pagkasahin nyo yung 85 pesos, taas out. [1:36:26] So balik po tayo sa NWPC, Mr. Chair. [1:36:29] Ano po ang posisyon ng NWPC? [1:36:31] Dapat ba naitaas o meron bang nakikitang rason ang NWPC to increase wages or no? [1:36:39] Mr. Chair, as I've mentioned po, our mandate is to only provide for the minimum wage. [1:36:45] And as of now, existing naman po yung policy of predictable, regular, and regular review of wage orders. [1:36:54] That's why po since 2022 actually, regular po nagre-review yung ating mga RTWPBs. [1:37:00] Sa taon-taon naman po ay somehow may nailalabas naman po na wage order ang ating 16 na RTWPBs. [1:37:06] So, Mr. Chair, hindi ko po makuha yung sagot ng NWPC. [1:37:12] Ilan nyo po ang ECOP at PCCI? Napakalinaw ng posisyon nila. [1:37:19] They are opposed to any increases in the minimum wage or any wage adjustments for that matter. [1:37:27] The labor sector is very frank and direct. [1:37:31] We should increase wages according to our study, etc., etc. [1:37:35] Now, I am asking the government executive. [1:37:39] This has something to do with the policy direction kasi of the administration. [1:37:42] So now I am asking NWPC again. [1:37:46] You can say yes or no. Huwag po kayo mag-alala. [1:37:48] Gusto po namin malaman directly po sa inyo para at least magkaalaman tayo dito. [1:37:53] So para alam ng labor, alam ng business, alam ng lahat ng nag-uusap dito sa bulwagang ito, [1:37:58] kung anong posisyon ng administration because you are speaking on behalf of NWPC. [1:38:04] And therefore, by logic, you are saying or registering the position of the administration. [1:38:10] So again, what is the position of NWPC with regards to wage increase? [1:38:15] Mr. Chair, we have to understand that our A6727 does not position the government to give a position. [1:38:24] Ang amin pong mandato galing sa batas ay magbigay po ng technical inputs para po i-weigh ang kapakanan ng mga manggagawa at at ng employers. [1:38:33] Okay po, in your technical input dated August 2025, [1:38:38] ano po ang sinabi ng Department of Labor and Employment, NWPC, regarding legislated wage increase? [1:38:44] Kasi hindi nyo po masagot yes or no eh. [1:38:45] May sagot po kayo dyan. [1:38:46] Ayan nyo lang po sabihin ngayon. [1:38:50] Ano po nakasulat sa technical input? [1:38:53] The committee and the body already have a copy po of our technical inputs, Mr. Chair. [1:38:59] Can you brief us on that, Mr. Chair? [1:39:01] Our technical inputs po is merely a technical input. [1:39:04] It doesn't take side po. [1:39:06] We recognize that an increase, especially if it's a natural minimum wage, [1:39:11] would ease primarily the administration kasi meron na lang isang minimum wage. [1:39:15] However, it has some effects, of course, to our macroeconomics. [1:39:19] So yun po ang din-discuss namin doon exhaustively. [1:39:22] And it's not actually our position. [1:39:25] We only cited studies po locally by the academia, by the economists, even international studies. [1:39:32] We have that there in our position. [1:39:33] It would be all po, Mr. Chair. [1:39:36] Salamat po, Mr. Chair. [1:39:38] So alam nyo po, dun sa technical input nyo, kahit po paikutikutin nyo, [1:39:41] ang position po ng National Wages and Productivity Commission is to oppose. [1:39:45] Pwede nyo naman po sabihin yan eh. [1:39:47] No other than your Executive Director, [1:39:49] Director Criseldasi has already said that in the Lead Committee Hearing, [1:39:53] what is the position of NWPC? [1:39:55] They do not find any urgent and reasonable ground to increase or to adjust wages. [1:40:02] Yun po, yun po ang position ninyo. [1:40:04] Ngayon, binanggit nyo po, kinukonsider nyo po yung mga pag-aaral from academe, from labor, [1:40:10] from other stakeholders. [1:40:13] You have heard, ma'am, you have heard po, Mr. Chair, the position of the labor. [1:40:19] Nilatag na po doon, at ganda po ng presentation ni Mr. Sani Africa, [1:40:25] na dapat merong makatwirang batayan para itasho ang sahod. [1:40:29] So now, I am asking you po, even that we have a lot of related literature, [1:40:35] studies pertaining to wage increases, [1:40:37] ano ngayon po ang position ng National Wages and Productivity Commission? [1:40:45] Nang sasabihin nyo po, hindi po kayo nagsaside. [1:40:48] Yan po yung malaking kalokohan ng tripartism na pinag-uusapan po natin ngayon. [1:40:55] Alam nyo po kung bakit? [1:40:57] The mere fact that you are not making your position publicly [1:41:00] is you are already siding with the businesses. [1:41:05] You cannot even say, dapat itasahod ng manggagawa. [1:41:07] Lumabas lang po kayo ng opisina ninyo, [1:41:09] magtanong kayo ng mga manggagawa, [1:41:11] lahat po silang sasabihin, dapat po itasahod ng mga manggagawa. [1:41:15] Sabi nyo po, pinagbabatayan nyo yung mga pag-aaral. [1:41:18] No other than the National Concern Survey. [1:41:21] Past two National Concern Survey. [1:41:24] Top 1, top 2, top 3, up to top 4. [1:41:27] Alam nyo po kung ano nakasulat doon? [1:41:28] Sabi ng mga manggagawa, dapat itasahod ng mga manggagawa. [1:41:34] O kayo na lang po ang hindi naniniwala, [1:41:36] na dapat itasahod. [1:41:37] Kayo na lang po yung nagpapaniwala sa sarili ninyo [1:41:40] na hindi kayo pumuposisyon. [1:41:43] Wala po kayong pinapanigan. [1:41:45] Mr. Chair, kanina po tinatanong natin, [1:41:48] sino ba ang umaharang dito sa mga panukalang batas? [1:41:53] No other than the President and the Economic Managers. [1:41:58] No other than the Executive Secretary Ralph Recto. [1:42:01] Now I am saying this as the representative of Kamanggagawa Party List. [1:42:07] Kasi po, that reflects your answer, [1:42:09] reflects the policy direction of this administration. [1:42:14] Kaya hindi po yan lumulusot sa kahit anong mga pag-uusap. [1:42:18] Because the executive has made their position clear. [1:42:22] And that is why we are continuously imploring the administration, [1:42:25] the government, na makinig dito po sa sinasabi namin. [1:42:29] Hindi ko naman na kailangan palawigin pa yung binabanggit [1:42:31] ng mga kasama namin sa labor sector. [1:42:33] By itself, it can be understood. [1:42:37] Yung datos nandun na. [1:42:39] Binanggit na lahat ng rason para itasyo yung sahag ng mga manggagawa. [1:42:42] And yet, wala akong tindig yung ating gobyerno ngayon. [1:42:46] Ngayon, Mr. Chair, binabanggit sapat yung current wage setting mechanism that we have. [1:42:54] Kaya na lang din po naniniwala dyan eh. [1:42:55] I've been to NCR RTWPB. [1:43:00] Ngayon, naglabas ng 85 pesos. [1:43:02] Ina-expect namin ba riyan? [1:43:03] I've been to RTWPB, Region 7. [1:43:06] 10.8% ang inflation doon sa Region 7. [1:43:10] Pero, yung sahag ng mga manggagawa doon, [1:43:12] nasa P540, P550 pesos lang. [1:43:16] O RTWPB na lang po naniniwala [1:43:18] na gumagana pa yung Regional Wage Boards, [1:43:22] yung RA 6727. [1:43:25] Wala na po naniniwala dyan. [1:43:26] At huwag niyo po kaming lokohin dito. [1:43:28] Alam ng mga manggagawa, [1:43:29] anong kalakaran sa mga Regional Wage Boards? [1:43:31] Magkakaroon ng hearing, [1:43:32] magkakaroon ng consultation, [1:43:34] pero hindi niyo iti-take into consideration [1:43:36] kung ano ang sinasabi ng mga manggagawa. [1:43:38] Alam niyo po kung paano nangyayari dyan [1:43:40] sa Regional Wage Boards? [1:43:41] Nagtatawagan lang. [1:43:45] Kasi kung totoo na nakikinig [1:43:46] yung Regional Wage Boards natin [1:43:48] sa inaeng at mga posisyon ng mga manggagawa, [1:43:51] dapat malinaw din ang kanilang tindig [1:43:53] pagdating sa taas sahod. [1:43:55] Kasi ang binabanggit namin dito, [1:43:56] datos, siyensya. [1:43:58] Kung ngayon, [1:43:58] yung Regional Wage Boards natin, [1:43:59] hindi nag-a-act, [1:44:01] hindi tumutugon sa pangangailangan [1:44:03] ng mga manggagawa. [1:44:04] We will say, [1:44:05] ang isa sa mga criteria [1:44:06] of adjusting minimum wages [1:44:07] is the demand of workers [1:44:09] for living wages. [1:44:11] It is enshrined in our constitution, [1:44:13] 1987 constitution, [1:44:15] para patanang bawat manggagawa [1:44:16] ang sahod na kayang bumuhay [1:44:17] ng kanyang pamilya. [1:44:19] So Mr. Chair, [1:44:20] ang binabanggit ko po dito [1:44:21] at binibigyan din ko po dito, [1:44:23] binabanggit ng ating mga partners, [1:44:25] gumagana yung RA 6727, [1:44:28] yung Regional Tripartite Wage [1:44:30] and Productivity Boards. [1:44:31] But time and again, [1:44:32] we are saying, [1:44:34] here, outside this hall, [1:44:36] na hindi gumagana yan. [1:44:37] Ngayon, ang position po dyan [1:44:39] sa ating mga kapatid sa labor, [1:44:41] ang position po dyan [1:44:42] ng Department of Labor and Employment [1:44:43] and National Wages [1:44:44] and Productivity Commission, [1:44:46] Mr. Chair, [1:44:47] is initindigan nila [1:44:49] na gumagana. [1:44:50] Sinabi na po ng ating kasama [1:44:51] dito sa NWPC [1:44:52] na gumagana yung [1:44:53] Regional Wage Boards natin. [1:44:55] Some refutations, [1:44:56] sorry po Mr. Chair, [1:44:57] if I'm taking time, [1:44:58] some other refutations... [1:44:59] Last 30 seconds. [1:45:00] Yes po Mr. Chair. [1:45:03] Binanggit po ng kasama [1:45:04] sa PCCI, [1:45:06] yung job preservation, [1:45:07] tsaka yung regional data po natin. [1:45:10] Alam nyo po, [1:45:11] since 2000 in 2020, [1:45:13] the country Laos [1:45:14] increased their minimum wage [1:45:17] by 296%. [1:45:19] Indonesia, [1:45:23] 214%. [1:45:24] Vietnam, [1:45:25] 101%. [1:45:26] Cambodia, [1:45:27] 85%. [1:45:28] Thailand, [1:45:29] 43%. [1:45:29] Malaysia, [1:45:30] 19%. [1:45:31] Philippines, [1:45:33] at 3%. [1:45:34] Kung sinasabi po [1:45:35] na itataas ang sahod, [1:45:37] e mangangahulugan nito [1:45:37] ng pagbagsak ng ekonomiya. [1:45:39] Since 2000 to 2020, [1:45:40] ito pong mga bansa [1:45:42] na binanggit ko, [1:45:42] hindi bumagsak [1:45:43] ang kanilang ekonomiya. [1:45:45] They have increased [1:45:45] their minimum wages [1:45:46] by almost triple [1:45:47] kung gagamitin natin [1:45:50] basis yung sa Laos. [1:45:52] Ngayon, [1:45:53] ang binabanggit po natin, [1:45:54] job preservation. [1:45:55] Tama, [1:45:56] we should preserve jobs. [1:45:57] Tama, [1:45:58] but this is not just [1:45:59] about preservation of jobs. [1:46:02] We should ask the question, [1:46:03] what jobs are being produced [1:46:05] or are available [1:46:06] in the labor market? [1:46:08] Ang mga jobs po na ito, [1:46:10] hindi nagbabayad ng, [1:46:11] maayos, [1:46:11] hindi kayang bumuhay [1:46:12] ng sahod, [1:46:14] contractual, [1:46:15] nasa agency. [1:46:15] Yan po, [1:46:16] ang mga sahod [1:46:17] na nasa labor market po natin. [1:46:20] Now, [1:46:20] Mr. Chair, [1:46:20] kaya ko po binanggit ito [1:46:22] at kaya ko po nirehistro [1:46:24] ngayon, [1:46:25] dahil, [1:46:26] gaya po nang nabanggit ko, [1:46:27] in 1951 and 1989, [1:46:30] naharap sa parehos na tanong [1:46:32] ng ating gobyerno. [1:46:34] Kailangan bang itaas [1:46:35] ang sahod ng mga manggagawa? [1:46:37] Actually, [1:46:38] hindi po siya tanong [1:46:39] kung dapat ba o hindi. [1:46:40] Dapat naman talaga. [1:46:41] Lahat tayo maniniwala dito. [1:46:43] It was a political question. [1:46:46] Handa ba ang gobyerno [1:46:48] na tumindig [1:46:49] para sa mga manggagawa? [1:46:51] Handa ba ang gobyerno [1:46:53] na itaas ang sahod [1:46:55] ng mga manggagawa [1:46:56] na bumubuhay [1:46:57] sa ating ekonomiya? [1:46:58] It was a political question. [1:46:59] Now, [1:47:00] we are addressing [1:47:01] this challenge, [1:47:02] Mr. Chair. [1:47:03] We are addressing [1:47:03] this challenge [1:47:04] to the administration [1:47:05] and we are thankful [1:47:06] for the leadership [1:47:07] of our chair, [1:47:08] Chair Jolo Revilla. [1:47:09] But we are addressing [1:47:10] this challenge [1:47:12] to the president [1:47:13] and to the executive. [1:47:15] You are four years [1:47:15] in your administration, [1:47:17] four years in service. [1:47:20] Ano pa po [1:47:20] ang inaantay [1:47:21] ng pamahalaan? [1:47:22] Maglupasay [1:47:23] yung mga manggagawa [1:47:24] sa harap ng ating [1:47:25] mga opisina [1:47:26] at ng mga mambabatas? [1:47:27] Yun lang po, [1:47:28] Mr. Chair. [1:47:29] Kaya po, [1:47:30] tinitindigan natin, [1:47:31] dapat ipasanap po natin [1:47:33] itong 200 peso [1:47:34] legislated wage increase [1:47:35] and we are more [1:47:36] than open, [1:47:37] Mr. Chair. [1:47:38] We are more than [1:47:38] open to discuss [1:47:39] kung ano yung [1:47:41] pupwede pa [1:47:42] na measures [1:47:45] na makakatulong [1:47:46] sa ating mga manggagawa. [1:47:47] Yun lang po, [1:47:47] Mr. Chair. [1:47:47] Maraming salamat. [1:47:48] Deputy Speaker Mendoza. [1:47:52] Thank you, [1:47:52] Mr. Chair. [1:47:52] Well said. [1:47:56] Panera, [1:47:57] the chairman [1:47:58] has already mentioned [1:47:59] that there's 85 pesos, [1:48:02] correct? [1:48:02] Is this one time [1:48:03] or staggered? [1:48:04] Can you clarify, please? [1:48:09] The 85 pesos po [1:48:10] for the NCR [1:48:11] will be given po [1:48:12] in two tranches [1:48:13] that would be 60 pesos [1:48:14] for the first [1:48:15] and 25 po [1:48:16] for the second? [1:48:18] Kasi, [1:48:19] although we still think [1:48:22] na medyo bariya-bariya yan, [1:48:24] pero bariya-bariya talaga. [1:48:25] Kung hulugan pala [1:48:26] so in tranches, [1:48:29] so 85 divided by [1:48:31] ilang-ilang tranches? [1:48:32] Two. [1:48:33] Oh, [1:48:34] nabugado ako yan. [1:48:35] Magkano ba yan? [1:48:37] 85 minus 2 by 2? [1:48:38] Or 18. [1:48:39] 42. [1:48:40] 42. [1:48:41] Thank you. [1:48:44] Huh? [1:48:44] Ano yun, Mr. Chair? [1:48:45] In the interest of time, [1:48:47] Thank you, thank you. [1:48:48] May we now on app? [1:48:49] Mr. Chair, [1:48:51] this is a very brief manifestation. [1:48:53] Talaga pong nakakabahala [1:48:54] itong binalita sa atin [1:48:56] na ito palang 85 pesos [1:48:58] ay pulugan pa, [1:49:00] drop, drop, patak, patak. [1:49:02] So, [1:49:03] I just want to underscore, [1:49:04] Mr. Chair, [1:49:05] na while this has been announced today, [1:49:08] huwag naman pong gamitin argumento ito [1:49:10] laban dito sa mga panukalang batas [1:49:13] na nakahain sa committing ito ngayon [1:49:15] for the national minimum wage increase. [1:49:18] Yes, [1:49:18] this is a good step, [1:49:19] but this is just a first step. [1:49:22] A necessary first step. [1:49:23] This must be bolstered by a legislated wage hike [1:49:27] to fully allow our workers [1:49:29] to survive the onslaught of price increases. [1:49:33] Kung ito pong 85 pesos na dalawang patak pala, [1:49:36] dalawang hulog, [1:49:36] can be granted to workers here in Metro Manila. [1:49:39] The same should be granted to all workers [1:49:42] across all regions. [1:49:45] Tandaan po natin, [1:49:47] hindi lamang sa Metro Manila [1:49:48] nalulunod ang ating mga manggagawa [1:49:51] sa mataas na presyo. [1:49:53] Pareho po ang presyo ng bilihin [1:49:55] sa ating mga probinsya, [1:49:57] mahilap din po ang kanilang buhay. [1:49:59] Yes, [1:49:59] this is an increase, [1:50:01] pero kulang pa rin ito [1:50:02] para i-recover ang na-erode na income [1:50:05] na ating manggagawa [1:50:06] na daladala nito matinding crisis [1:50:08] na sunod-sunod [1:50:09] na pinagdaanan natin. [1:50:11] While we welcome this increase, [1:50:13] hindi po ito yung end of the discussion. [1:50:16] This is just the beginning. [1:50:18] Kailangan pa rin po [1:50:19] ang 200 peso wage increase. [1:50:21] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [1:50:21] Yes, thank you, [1:50:23] Representative Percy Sandania. [1:50:25] In the interest of time, [1:50:26] may we now on app on the measure, [1:50:28] Senior Vice Chair Bautista. [1:50:30] Mr. Chair, [1:50:31] may I move to convene [1:50:32] an executive session after the SONA [1:50:35] to decide on the substitute bill [1:50:37] on this substitute bill [1:50:39] for these proposed measures [1:50:41] on wage hike. [1:50:43] Mr. Chair. [1:50:43] There is a motion [1:50:44] to convene an executive session [1:50:46] after SONA [1:50:46] to decide on the substitute bill [1:50:48] on wage. [1:50:49] Any objection? [1:50:55] Any second? [1:50:57] Seconded? [1:50:57] The motion is hereby approved. [1:51:01] For those who weren't not able [1:51:03] to speak on the wage bills, [1:51:05] please submit your position papers [1:51:07] to the Secretariat for the Committee's Perusal. [1:51:10] Let us now move on [1:51:11] to the next agenda, [1:51:16] which is number five, [1:51:18] consideration of the following measures, [1:51:20] seeking mandate employers [1:51:21] to provide a personal finance [1:51:24] educational program. [1:51:25] Let us hear first, [1:51:28] Representative Bautista, [1:51:30] our Senior Vice Chair. [1:51:32] Mr. Chair, [1:51:33] may I move [1:51:33] that the explanatory notes [1:51:35] of House Bill's number [1:51:36] 160, 1168, [1:51:40] and 8777 [1:51:41] be entered into the record [1:51:43] as their sponsorship remarks. [1:51:45] So move, Mr. Chair. [1:51:46] There is a motion [1:51:54] to adapt [1:51:54] for the explanatory note [1:51:56] to be the sponsorship speech. [1:52:03] May we now on call [1:52:11] Ask Julie Ann Chang-Lim of Dole [1:52:14] to speak on bills mandating [1:52:16] on employers [1:52:16] to provide a personal finance [1:52:21] education program [1:52:22] regarding with your insights. [1:52:26] Good morning, Mr. Chair. [1:52:28] The department fully supports [1:52:30] the proposed measures [1:52:32] in amending the labor code [1:52:34] and adding a provision [1:52:36] to institutionalize [1:52:38] workplace-based [1:52:40] personal finance education. [1:52:41] we will be submitting [1:52:44] our position paper [1:52:46] and consolidate [1:52:46] all the technical inputs [1:52:48] from our bureaus. [1:52:50] Mr. Chair. [1:52:52] Thank you. [1:52:54] How about from the GOCC's [1:52:56] Attorney Maria Lourdes [1:52:57] Lubiano-Albiola? [1:53:05] Yes, you're now recognized. [1:53:33] Maria Lourdes Lubiano-Albiola? [1:53:36] Ma'am, you can use [1:53:37] any mic po. [1:53:38] Na nandyan. [1:54:01] To the Honorable Chairperson [1:54:02] and Representative Jolo, [1:54:04] Ramon Jolo, [1:54:04] be revealed the third, [1:54:06] esteemed members [1:54:07] of the Committee [1:54:07] on Labor and Employment [1:54:09] and our fellow stakeholders [1:54:10] in government [1:54:11] and the private sector [1:54:12] a pleasant morning. [1:54:14] On behalf of the [1:54:14] Governance Commission [1:54:15] for Government-Owned [1:54:16] or Controlled Corporations, [1:54:18] we express our utmost gratitude [1:54:20] to the Honorable Committee [1:54:21] for inviting us [1:54:22] to participate [1:54:23] in today's deliberations. [1:54:25] We'll be focusing [1:54:25] on House Bill Numbers 8218 [1:54:27] on the Financial Literacy [1:54:30] and Fraud Prevention Act. [1:54:34] So in response [1:54:35] to the Committee's request, [1:54:36] the Governance Commission [1:54:37] has conducted [1:54:38] an initial review [1:54:39] of the proposed measure. [1:54:41] We respectfully submit [1:54:42] our initial comments [1:54:44] and observations [1:54:44] which are strictly framed [1:54:46] within the bounds [1:54:47] of the GCG statutory mandate [1:54:50] under Republic Act [1:54:51] No. 10149 [1:54:52] or the GOCC Governance Act [1:54:55] of 2011 [1:54:55] as the central advisory, [1:54:58] monitoring, [1:54:58] and oversight body [1:54:59] of the GOCC sector [1:55:01] and is listed, [1:55:02] among others, [1:55:03] with the power [1:55:03] to classify GOCCs [1:55:05] and to establish [1:55:06] the performance evaluation system [1:55:09] applicable to them. [1:55:10] Consistent with the coverage [1:55:11] of that law, [1:55:12] the comments set out below [1:55:14] pertain solely [1:55:15] to covered GOCCs. [1:55:17] Hindi to ito nage-extend [1:55:18] sa Banco Central ng Pilipinas [1:55:19] which is expressly excluded [1:55:21] from RA 10149 [1:55:24] or to private banking [1:55:25] and credit facilities. [1:55:27] Our inputs focus [1:55:28] on optimizing [1:55:30] the implementation [1:55:30] of this bill [1:55:31] within covered corporations [1:55:33] without disrupting [1:55:34] their core operations. [1:55:36] So the key points [1:55:37] that we will be raising [1:55:38] will be very short [1:55:39] and brief [1:55:40] since this is just [1:55:41] an initial review [1:55:42] of House Bill 3218 [1:55:44] and our role [1:55:45] is limited [1:55:47] to the drafting [1:55:49] and formulation [1:55:49] of the IRR. [1:55:51] So the first point, [1:55:52] sections 3 and 8 [1:55:54] of the bill [1:55:54] impose financial literacy [1:55:56] obligations [1:55:57] across all GOCCs [1:55:59] as a single class. [1:56:01] So we recommend [1:56:01] that the implementation [1:56:02] of the phrase [1:56:03] where relevant [1:56:05] in section 8 [1:56:06] be calibrated [1:56:06] based on the statutory [1:56:08] classification [1:56:09] of GOCCs. [1:56:11] Second po, [1:56:12] any inclusion [1:56:13] of financial literacy [1:56:14] benchmarks [1:56:15] into a covered [1:56:16] GOCCs performance [1:56:18] scorecard [1:56:19] should be managed [1:56:21] through the existing [1:56:22] PES framework [1:56:24] administered by the GCC. [1:56:26] And third, [1:56:26] section 9 [1:56:27] outlines initial funding [1:56:29] from the Department [1:56:30] of Labor and Employment. [1:56:32] Compliance with sections [1:56:33] 3 and 8 [1:56:33] will inevitably [1:56:34] cause incremental costs [1:56:36] for individual GOCCs [1:56:38] due to the publication, [1:56:42] translation, [1:56:43] and logistics. [1:56:44] So to protect [1:56:45] what the financial [1:56:46] sustainability [1:56:46] of these corporations [1:56:48] can secure [1:56:49] their mandatory [1:56:49] dividend remittances [1:56:51] to the national government [1:56:52] under Republic Act [1:56:54] No. 7656 [1:56:55] or the Dividends Law, [1:56:57] we recommend [1:56:57] that the implementing rules [1:56:59] clearly define [1:57:00] the treatment [1:57:00] and sourcing [1:57:01] of these compliant costs [1:57:02] to prevent [1:57:03] an unfunded mandate. [1:57:05] So in closing, [1:57:06] Mr. Chair, [1:57:07] Governance Commission [1:57:08] reiterates its full support [1:57:09] for the noble intent [1:57:10] of House Bill No. 3218 [1:57:12] consistent with [1:57:13] Section 10 [1:57:14] of the bill [1:57:14] which mandates [1:57:15] consultations [1:57:16] with relevant agencies. [1:57:17] the GCG expresses [1:57:19] its full willingness [1:57:20] and readiness [1:57:21] to actively assist [1:57:22] the Department [1:57:23] of Labor and Employment [1:57:24] and other stakeholders [1:57:25] in asking [1:57:26] for implementing [1:57:27] rules and regulations. [1:57:29] We thank the Honorable Committee [1:57:30] for this opportunity [1:57:31] to share the insights [1:57:33] of the Governance Commission [1:57:34] for GOCCs [1:57:35] and we will be filing [1:57:36] our reposition paper [1:57:37] in due time [1:57:38] upon approval [1:57:38] of our principles. [1:57:40] Thank you very much, [1:57:40] Mr. Chair. [1:57:41] Thank you. [1:57:43] Let us now move on [1:57:44] to Director of Chair. [1:57:45] Yes. [1:57:46] Yes. [1:57:47] Sir, [1:57:48] pasensya na po. [1:57:50] This has to do [1:57:51] with the wage bill [1:57:52] because it's a waste [1:57:53] of question. [1:57:55] Kasi yung naging motion [1:57:56] na in-approve po [1:57:57] ay [1:57:58] magbubuo ng executive session. [1:58:03] Parang [1:58:04] I'm just wondering [1:58:07] why it has to be [1:58:08] an executive session, [1:58:09] di ba? [1:58:09] Kasi baka [1:58:10] hindi maganda yung [1:58:11] dating na [1:58:12] secret, [1:58:14] di ba? [1:58:16] Para pag-usapan lang po [1:58:17] kung ano po [1:58:18] yung magiging mother bill. [1:58:19] Mahirap naman po [1:58:20] kasi na ipasok natin [1:58:21] dito sa mother committee [1:58:22] pero pag-uusapan po [1:58:23] natin siya kagad [1:58:24] sa mother committee [1:58:25] after the executive session. [1:58:29] Naintindi ako naman, [1:58:30] Chair. [1:58:30] So, [1:58:30] siguro, [1:58:31] pwede naman [1:58:33] pagbuo na lang [1:58:33] ng [1:58:34] consolidated vision [1:58:36] tapos [1:58:38] saka [1:58:38] i-agenda [1:58:39] sa [1:58:39] Yes. [1:58:40] That's what [1:58:40] the point is. [1:58:41] Okay. [1:58:42] Pero [1:58:42] sa kailangan [1:58:43] na [1:58:43] executive [1:58:44] for house [1:58:44] members [1:58:45] first. [1:58:45] Before we [1:58:46] Okay. [1:58:50] Anyway, [1:58:50] thank you, [1:58:50] Chair. [1:58:50] Ako lang [1:58:51] medyo [1:58:51] nag-express [1:58:52] lang ng [1:58:53] reservation [1:58:54] na kailangan [1:58:55] idaan sa [1:58:56] executive session, [1:58:56] Chair. [1:58:58] Okay. [1:58:58] Thank you. [1:59:00] Let us now move on [1:59:01] to Director [1:59:01] Marian Santos [1:59:02] of BSP. [1:59:02] Good morning, [1:59:04] Mr. Chair [1:59:04] and members [1:59:05] of the committee. [1:59:06] The BSP [1:59:07] supports the objective [1:59:08] of the house bills [1:59:10] mentioned [1:59:11] to strengthen [1:59:12] the financial capability [1:59:13] of Filipino workers [1:59:14] through workplace [1:59:16] financial education. [1:59:17] Financially capable [1:59:18] workers are better [1:59:19] equipped to make [1:59:20] informed financial [1:59:21] decisions, [1:59:22] manage their [1:59:23] day-to-day finances, [1:59:25] protect themselves [1:59:25] from fraud and scams, [1:59:27] build resilience [1:59:28] against financial shocks, [1:59:30] and improve their [1:59:31] financial health [1:59:31] and overall well-being. [1:59:33] The process, [1:59:34] the proposed measures [1:59:35] complement the BSP's [1:59:37] initiatives on [1:59:39] financial education, [1:59:40] financial inclusion, [1:59:42] financial consumer [1:59:42] protection, [1:59:44] digital financial capability, [1:59:45] and financial health. [1:59:47] They are likewise [1:59:48] consistent with [1:59:48] the National Strategy [1:59:49] for Financial Inclusion [1:59:51] 2022 to 2028, [1:59:53] particularly its [1:59:54] strategic objectives [1:59:56] on strengthening [1:59:56] financial education [1:59:57] and consumer protection [1:59:59] among Filipinos. [2:00:01] BSP also [2:00:02] emphasizes that [2:00:03] workplace financial [2:00:04] education should be [2:00:05] aligned with [2:00:06] existing legal [2:00:07] and institutional [2:00:08] frameworks, [2:00:09] including the [2:00:10] Economic and Financial [2:00:11] Literacy Act, [2:00:12] the Financial Products [2:00:13] and Services [2:00:14] Consumer Protection Act, [2:00:16] and the Anti-Financial [2:00:17] Account Scamming Act, [2:00:18] or AFASA. [2:00:20] So with this, [2:00:20] Mr. Chair, [2:00:21] I will submit our [2:00:22] comments, [2:00:23] consolidated comments, [2:00:23] once approved [2:00:24] by our principles. [2:00:25] Thank you, [2:00:25] Mr. Chair. [2:00:26] Thank you. [2:00:36] Any other stakeholders [2:00:37] that gusto pong magsalita [2:00:38] with regards to this bill? [2:00:42] Hearing none. [2:00:43] Yes, [2:00:43] Representative Bautista. [2:00:45] Mr. Chair, [2:00:47] I move to consolidate [2:00:48] and approve [2:00:49] House Bills [2:00:50] Number 160, [2:00:52] 1168, [2:00:53] and 8767, [2:00:55] measures seeking [2:00:56] to mandate employers [2:00:57] to provide a [2:00:58] personal finance [2:00:59] education program, [2:01:01] amending for the purpose [2:01:02] PD442, [2:01:04] otherwise known as [2:01:05] the Labor Code [2:01:06] of the Philippines, [2:01:07] as amended, [2:01:08] and to include [2:01:08] all members present [2:01:09] as co-authors. [2:01:10] I so move, [2:01:11] Mr. Chair. [2:01:13] Second motion, [2:01:14] Mr. Chair. [2:01:14] There is a motion [2:01:15] to consolidate [2:01:16] and approve [2:01:16] House Bill Number [2:01:17] 160, [2:01:18] 1168, [2:01:19] and 8777, [2:01:20] measures seeking [2:01:21] to mandate employers [2:01:22] to provide a [2:01:23] personal finance [2:01:24] education program, [2:01:25] amending for the purpose [2:01:26] of PD442, [2:01:28] otherwise known as [2:01:29] the Labor Code [2:01:30] of the Philippines, [2:01:30] as amended, [2:01:31] and to include [2:01:31] all members present [2:01:32] as co-authors. [2:01:35] Any objection? [2:01:36] Hiring none [2:01:37] and julie seconded [2:01:38] by Representative [2:01:39] Legaspi of [2:01:40] Pinoy Workers [2:01:41] Party List. [2:01:42] The motion [2:01:43] is hereby approved. [2:01:47] Let us now move [2:01:48] on to item [2:01:48] number 6, [2:01:50] House Bill [2:01:51] Number 2809, [2:01:52] entitled, [2:01:53] An Act Providing [2:01:53] Financial Literacy [2:01:54] and Entrepreneurship [2:01:55] Programs [2:01:56] for Workers, [2:01:57] authored by [2:01:58] Representative Marcos. [2:02:01] I would like [2:02:01] to recognize [2:02:02] Representative Legaspi. [2:02:05] Yes, [2:02:06] Mr. Chair, [2:02:07] thank you. [2:02:08] The honorable [2:02:09] majority leader [2:02:09] has asked me [2:02:11] to put on record [2:02:13] his sponsorship [2:02:14] speech for his [2:02:16] House Bill [2:02:16] 2809, [2:02:19] and I ask [2:02:19] that the speech [2:02:21] be put on record, [2:02:22] which I will read [2:02:23] as follows. [2:02:25] To quote, [2:02:26] Mr. Chair, [2:02:27] distinguished colleagues, [2:02:28] good morning. [2:02:29] There is a saying [2:02:29] that resonates [2:02:30] with every Filipino [2:02:31] worker. [2:02:32] It is not enough [2:02:33] to earn a living. [2:02:34] One must also [2:02:35] build a life. [2:02:36] Millions of Filipino [2:02:37] workers devote [2:02:38] the best years [2:02:39] of their lives [2:02:40] to provide [2:02:40] for their families. [2:02:42] Yet, [2:02:42] many remain [2:02:43] one financial [2:02:44] emergency away [2:02:45] from poverty. [2:02:46] It is not [2:02:47] a failure [2:02:47] of diligence. [2:02:48] It is a consequence [2:02:49] of limited access [2:02:50] to financial education [2:02:52] and opportunity. [2:02:53] House Bill [2:02:54] No. 2809 [2:02:55] seeks to address [2:02:56] this reality [2:02:57] by institutionalizing [2:02:59] financial literacy [2:03:00] and entrepreneurship [2:03:01] programs [2:03:01] for Filipino workers. [2:03:03] The constitutional [2:03:04] protection afforded [2:03:06] to labor [2:03:06] cannot be confined [2:03:07] to wages [2:03:08] and working conditions [2:03:09] alone. [2:03:10] Financial literacy [2:03:11] remains a key [2:03:12] component [2:03:12] of financial inclusion. [2:03:15] We must empower [2:03:15] workers to ensure [2:03:16] to secure [2:03:17] their future [2:03:18] beyond the workplace. [2:03:20] Let's transform [2:03:21] financial education [2:03:22] into an accessible [2:03:23] public policy [2:03:24] that benefits [2:03:25] every Filipino worker. [2:03:27] Mr. Chair, [2:03:27] distinguished colleagues, [2:03:29] a worker is not [2:03:30] merely a wage earner. [2:03:32] ERC can also [2:03:33] be a future investor, [2:03:34] entrepreneur, [2:03:35] and employer. [2:03:36] Thank you. [2:03:36] Unquote. [2:03:37] Mr. Chair, [2:03:38] that is all. [2:03:39] And I wish you [2:03:40] put on record [2:03:40] the sponsorship [2:03:41] for each of the [2:03:42] honorable majority [2:03:43] needed. [2:03:43] Thank you. [2:03:44] Thank you very much, [2:03:45] Representative [2:03:45] Illigaspi. [2:03:47] Yes, [2:03:50] would like to call on [2:03:51] Representative Bautista [2:03:52] to sponsor [2:03:53] House Bill No. 3218. [2:03:55] Mr. Chair, [2:03:55] I move to adopt [2:03:56] the explanatory note [2:03:57] of House Bill [2:03:59] No. 3218 [2:04:00] to serve as a [2:04:01] sponsorship remarks [2:04:02] of the author. [2:04:04] So move, [2:04:04] Mr. Chair. [2:04:09] Let us now [2:04:10] call on [2:04:10] Dolly again, [2:04:11] ask Julie [2:04:12] for the position [2:04:17] of the department. [2:04:18] We fully support [2:04:19] with this [2:04:20] particular [2:04:21] resolution, [2:04:23] this particular [2:04:24] bill. [2:04:26] Thank you very much. [2:04:27] This is [2:04:28] Kegargo. [2:04:29] Attorney [2:04:29] Kurt Tanyada [2:04:30] of PIMAP. [2:04:34] Good afternoon, [2:04:35] Mr. Chair. [2:04:36] Just a short [2:04:37] comment [2:04:38] on the [2:04:39] financial literacy [2:04:40] and entrepreneurship [2:04:40] program. [2:04:41] So PIMAP [2:04:42] recognizes the need [2:04:43] for financial literacy [2:04:45] of ordinary [2:04:45] Filipino workers. [2:04:46] However, [2:04:47] the association [2:04:48] finds that [2:04:50] financial education [2:04:51] should begin [2:04:52] in primary, [2:04:54] secondary, [2:04:54] and or tertiary [2:04:55] educational institutions. [2:04:59] PIMAP [2:04:59] submits that [2:05:00] such programs [2:05:01] are beyond [2:05:02] the obligation [2:05:02] of employers [2:05:03] to their employees. [2:05:04] Also, [2:05:05] the implementation [2:05:05] of these programs [2:05:06] would entail [2:05:07] additional costs [2:05:08] and expenses [2:05:10] to the employers [2:05:10] without any incentives [2:05:11] to these businesses. [2:05:14] Likewise, [2:05:14] PIMAP also [2:05:15] expresses concerns [2:05:16] that the programs [2:05:17] may interfere [2:05:17] with how employees [2:05:18] should [2:05:19] utilize their salaries [2:05:20] and wages [2:05:21] in contravention [2:05:22] with Article 10 [2:05:23] of the Labor Code [2:05:24] on non-interference [2:05:25] of disposal of wages. [2:05:28] Thus, [2:05:28] PIMAP suggests [2:05:29] that if these programs [2:05:30] are indeed necessary, [2:05:33] as explained [2:05:34] in the expeditory note [2:05:35] of the bills, [2:05:36] house bills, [2:05:37] it may be, [2:05:38] it is probably [2:05:39] more proper [2:05:39] for the appropriate [2:05:40] government agencies [2:05:41] and or non-governmental [2:05:43] organizations [2:05:44] to provide these programs. [2:05:46] The employers sector [2:05:47] merely providing support [2:05:48] for these programs. [2:05:50] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [2:05:51] Thank you very much. [2:05:53] Would like to [2:05:53] acknowledge the presence [2:05:55] of the representative [2:05:57] of the 1st District [2:05:58] of Batangas, [2:05:58] Honorable Leandro [2:05:59] Lagarde-Alibiste. [2:06:00] Thank you for coming. [2:06:08] BSP? [2:06:11] Yes, [2:06:12] good afternoon, [2:06:13] Mr. Chair. [2:06:14] Actually, [2:06:15] the BSP [2:06:16] also supports [2:06:16] these two measures [2:06:17] since it's also [2:06:18] aligned with [2:06:19] NSFI, [2:06:21] the National Strategy [2:06:22] for Financial Inclusion, [2:06:23] as well as [2:06:23] our objectives [2:06:24] for financial literacy, [2:06:26] financial inclusion, [2:06:27] and financial [2:06:29] consumer empowerment. [2:06:31] We will submit [2:06:32] again our [2:06:33] specific position [2:06:34] paper when [2:06:36] the principle [2:06:36] is approved. [2:06:37] Thank you, [2:06:37] Mr. [2:06:37] Thank you very much. [2:06:44] Mayroon pa po bang [2:06:44] gustong magsalida [2:06:45] with regards [2:06:46] to this bill? [2:06:48] Yes, ma'am. [2:06:49] For ECOP? [2:06:49] For ECOP? [2:06:50] Well, ECOP [2:06:51] supports helping [2:06:52] workers, [2:06:56] ECOP supports [2:06:57] helping workers [2:06:58] become financially [2:06:59] literate [2:07:00] and encouraging [2:07:01] entrepreneurship. [2:07:01] However, [2:07:03] employers should [2:07:04] not be required [2:07:04] to finance [2:07:05] or organize [2:07:06] these programs [2:07:07] without government [2:07:08] assistance. [2:07:09] So, ano po yung [2:07:10] sa HB 209, [2:07:12] sa House Bill 209, [2:07:14] yung concern lang po [2:07:15] natin is [2:07:16] employers may still [2:07:18] end up paying [2:07:19] if grants are [2:07:20] unavailable [2:07:21] and the word [2:07:22] provide implies [2:07:24] employer [2:07:25] should shoulder [2:07:26] the expenses [2:07:27] and then no [2:07:28] clarification [2:07:29] on paid [2:07:30] training hours. [2:07:31] Yung naman pong [2:07:32] concern natin [2:07:33] sa House Bill [2:07:34] 3218, [2:07:36] mandatory requirement [2:07:37] for all employers [2:07:38] including MSMEs. [2:07:41] Many small businesses [2:07:42] don't even have [2:07:43] HR department [2:07:45] could result [2:07:46] in penalties [2:07:47] for employers [2:07:48] unable to comply. [2:07:50] So, ECOP recommends [2:07:52] government should [2:07:53] design, [2:07:54] fund, [2:07:54] and primarily [2:07:55] deliver financial [2:07:56] literacy [2:07:57] and entrepreneurship [2:07:59] program [2:08:00] through DOLE, [2:08:01] BSP, [2:08:02] DTI, [2:08:03] or accredited [2:08:04] partners [2:08:04] with employers [2:08:06] serving as [2:08:07] facilitators. [2:08:08] Clarify that [2:08:09] participation [2:08:10] outside regular [2:08:11] working hours [2:08:12] is not [2:08:13] automatically [2:08:14] considered [2:08:15] paid working [2:08:16] time [2:08:16] and employers [2:08:18] should not be [2:08:18] required to [2:08:19] schedule seminars [2:08:20] during working [2:08:21] hours. [2:08:23] Provide MSME [2:08:24] exemption on [2:08:25] alternative [2:08:25] compliance [2:08:26] mechanisms [2:08:27] such as [2:08:28] community-based [2:08:29] or industry-wide [2:08:30] training programs [2:08:32] conducted by the [2:08:33] government, [2:08:35] amend or delete [2:08:36] Section 7 or [2:08:38] HB House Bill [2:08:39] 3218, [2:08:41] which requires [2:08:42] all private [2:08:43] employers to [2:08:44] integrate [2:08:44] financial literacy [2:08:46] into employee [2:08:48] orientation and [2:08:49] training programs, [2:08:51] protect employers [2:08:52] acting in good faith [2:08:53] from penalties if [2:08:55] they cooperate [2:08:56] with government-led [2:08:57] programs but [2:08:58] cannot fully [2:08:59] implement the [2:09:00] requirements and [2:09:01] provide tax [2:09:02] incentives to [2:09:04] employers that [2:09:05] voluntarily invest [2:09:06] in financial [2:09:07] literacy and [2:09:08] employee wellness [2:09:09] program. [2:09:10] That's all, [2:09:11] Mr. Chair. [2:09:11] Thank you. [2:09:12] Thank you. [2:09:13] Julie noted. [2:09:20] Yes, [2:09:21] Yuseke Gargoy. [2:09:22] Once this [2:09:24] particular bill [2:09:25] becomes law, [2:09:27] the DOLE [2:09:28] has already [2:09:31] proposed [2:09:33] that this [2:09:35] module [2:09:35] be included [2:09:36] in the [2:09:37] Woodpeak [2:09:38] Workers [2:09:38] Organization [2:09:39] Development Program. [2:09:41] We will [2:09:41] try to [2:09:43] include this. [2:09:44] Thank you. [2:09:45] Yuseke Gargoy. [2:09:49] Mr. Chair, [2:09:50] sorry, [2:09:51] can I? [2:09:51] Yes. [2:09:52] Yeah, [2:09:52] just in addition, [2:09:53] actually currently [2:09:54] we have a [2:09:55] free [2:09:56] 24-7 [2:09:58] personal [2:10:01] finance [2:10:01] management [2:10:02] modules. [2:10:03] It's online [2:10:04] 24-7. [2:10:05] So anyone [2:10:06] can access [2:10:07] this. [2:10:08] It's called [2:10:09] BSPE Learning [2:10:10] Academy or [2:10:10] BELA. [2:10:11] So we can [2:10:11] provide the [2:10:12] committee on [2:10:13] how to [2:10:15] access it [2:10:16] and maybe [2:10:17] it could be [2:10:18] included. [2:10:19] Yes, [2:10:20] thank you very [2:10:20] much. [2:10:21] Thank you. [2:10:25] Mr. Chair, [2:10:26] I move to [2:10:26] consolidate and [2:10:27] approve House [2:10:28] Bills number [2:10:29] 2809 and [2:10:30] 3218, [2:10:32] measures seeking [2:10:33] to provide [2:10:33] financial literacy, [2:10:35] entrepreneurship, [2:10:36] and fraud [2:10:37] prevention programs [2:10:38] for workers, [2:10:39] and to include [2:10:39] all members [2:10:40] present as [2:10:41] co-authors. [2:10:42] So move, [2:10:42] Mr. Chair. [2:10:43] There is a [2:10:44] motion to [2:10:44] consolidate and [2:10:45] approve House [2:10:45] Bills number [2:10:46] 2809 and [2:10:47] 3218, [2:10:49] measures seeking [2:10:49] to provide [2:10:50] financial literacy, [2:10:51] entrepreneurship, [2:10:52] and fraud [2:10:53] prevention programs [2:10:54] for workers, [2:10:54] and to include [2:10:55] all members [2:10:55] present as [2:10:56] co-authors. [2:10:57] Any objection? [2:10:59] Hearing none, [2:11:00] any second? [2:11:00] Seconds it. [2:11:03] The motion is [2:11:03] hereby approved. [2:11:17] The motion of [2:11:18] House Resolution [2:11:19] number 221, [2:11:20] directing this [2:11:21] committee to [2:11:21] conduct an [2:11:22] inquiry in [2:11:23] aid of [2:11:23] legislation into [2:11:24] the skills [2:11:24] matching and [2:11:25] forecasting [2:11:25] policies ensuring [2:11:26] quality employment [2:11:28] and job security [2:11:29] for Filipinos. [2:11:31] Item number [2:11:31] seven in our [2:11:32] agenda is [2:11:33] House Resolution [2:11:34] 221. [2:11:34] Notwithstanding [2:11:38] the referral [2:11:39] of this [2:11:39] resolution to [2:11:40] our committee, [2:11:41] the enactment [2:11:41] of RA 11962 [2:11:43] or the [2:11:44] Trabaho Para [2:11:45] Sa Bayan [2:11:46] Act and [2:11:46] RA 12063 [2:11:48] or the [2:11:49] Enterprise-Based [2:11:50] Education and [2:11:51] Training for [2:11:52] EBIT framework [2:11:53] have responded [2:11:54] to the said [2:11:55] resolution as [2:11:56] it addresses [2:11:57] the issue [2:11:58] of job skills [2:11:59] mismatch, [2:12:00] ensuring [2:12:01] quality employment [2:12:02] and job security [2:12:04] for Filipinos. [2:12:04] We laud the [2:12:06] author, [2:12:07] DS Benitez, [2:12:08] Deputy Speaker [2:12:08] Benitez for his [2:12:09] concern as [2:12:10] indicated therein. [2:12:11] However, [2:12:12] it is fortunate [2:12:12] and opportune [2:12:13] time that the [2:12:15] intents of the [2:12:15] resolution have [2:12:16] been addressed [2:12:17] by the two [2:12:17] republic acts [2:12:18] that were [2:12:19] passed. [2:12:20] The committee [2:12:20] has likewise [2:12:21] acted upon a [2:12:22] bill proposing [2:12:22] strengthened [2:12:23] the Trabaho [2:12:24] centers where [2:12:25] it strengthens [2:12:26] the employability [2:12:27] of job seekers [2:12:28] by offering [2:12:28] support services [2:12:30] through the [2:12:31] Trabaho centers [2:12:31] including career [2:12:33] advocacy trainings, [2:12:34] trainings and [2:12:35] upskilling programs, [2:12:37] labor market [2:12:38] information services [2:12:39] and workplace [2:12:40] readiness or [2:12:41] life skills [2:12:42] training. [2:12:44] Mr. Chair, [2:12:45] may I request [2:12:48] Assistant Secretary [2:12:49] John to [2:12:51] elaborate? [2:12:53] Thank you, [2:12:53] Mr. Chair. [2:12:54] The department [2:12:54] strongly welcomes [2:12:56] House Resolution [2:12:56] No. 221 [2:12:57] and recognizes [2:12:58] its importance [2:12:59] in strengthening [2:13:00] the country's [2:13:00] workforce development [2:13:01] agenda. [2:13:03] The department [2:13:03] respectfully [2:13:04] submits the [2:13:05] proposed inquiry [2:13:06] provides an [2:13:07] opportunity to [2:13:07] further strengthen [2:13:08] labor market [2:13:09] intelligence, [2:13:10] the Philippine [2:13:11] Skills Framework, [2:13:12] the Trabaho [2:13:12] Parasubayan Plan, [2:13:13] Public Employment [2:13:14] Services Office [2:13:15] and broader [2:13:16] interagency [2:13:17] workforce planning [2:13:17] initiatives. [2:13:19] The department [2:13:19] stands ready to [2:13:20] continue working [2:13:21] with Congress [2:13:21] and all partner [2:13:22] institutions in [2:13:23] advancing and [2:13:24] integrated, [2:13:25] evidence-informed [2:13:26] and future-ready [2:13:27] workforce development [2:13:28] system for the [2:13:28] Filipino people. [2:13:30] Thank you, [2:13:30] Mr. Chair. [2:13:31] Thank you. [2:13:31] Mr. Chair, [2:13:37] I move to [2:13:37] adjourn. [2:13:38] Yes, [2:13:40] I think there's [2:13:43] a manifestation [2:13:44] from [2:13:44] Representative [2:13:45] Leviste. [2:13:46] Mr. Chair, [2:13:46] I would just [2:13:47] like to make [2:13:47] a brief [2:13:47] manifestation [2:13:48] thanking all [2:13:49] of the [2:13:49] supporters of [2:13:50] the bills [2:13:51] being tackled [2:13:52] today as [2:13:52] well as the [2:13:53] members of [2:13:53] this committee. [2:13:54] This is [2:13:54] indeed much [2:13:55] overdue as [2:13:56] it was in [2:13:56] fact already [2:13:57] approved by [2:13:58] the House [2:13:59] in the 19th [2:13:59] Congress and [2:14:01] I think it [2:14:02] would be [2:14:02] helpful if [2:14:03] we can [2:14:04] identify what [2:14:06] was the [2:14:06] reason that it [2:14:06] was not [2:14:07] approved last [2:14:07] time so [2:14:08] that we [2:14:08] can prevent [2:14:09] that same [2:14:10] reason from [2:14:10] happening again. [2:14:11] As I [2:14:12] understand, [2:14:12] the gentleman [2:14:13] from Kamangagawa [2:14:14] party list [2:14:15] already named [2:14:15] certain members [2:14:16] of the [2:14:17] cabinet who [2:14:18] have been [2:14:19] seen to [2:14:20] be those [2:14:21] blocking the [2:14:22] passage of [2:14:23] the wage [2:14:24] hike. [2:14:24] As I [2:14:25] understand from [2:14:25] the deputy [2:14:26] minority [2:14:26] leader, it [2:14:27] still needs to [2:14:28] be further [2:14:28] fleshed out [2:14:29] who it is [2:14:30] and I [2:14:31] don't want [2:14:31] it to come [2:14:31] from me [2:14:32] because they [2:14:32] will say [2:14:32] that it's [2:14:33] hearsay. [2:14:33] I'd like [2:14:34] to ask [2:14:34] anyone here [2:14:35] in this [2:14:36] room with [2:14:36] knowledge of [2:14:38] the [2:14:39] reason why [2:14:40] this was [2:14:40] not approved [2:14:41] on the [2:14:42] last day [2:14:43] of the [2:14:43] 19th [2:14:44] Congress [2:14:44] despite it [2:14:45] having been [2:14:45] approved [2:14:46] by the [2:14:48] House. [2:14:50] Why the [2:14:51] wage hike [2:14:52] was not [2:14:52] approved? [2:14:52] As far as [2:14:53] I know, I [2:14:54] have no [2:14:54] knowledge, but [2:14:55] number one, [2:14:56] hindi lang po [2:14:56] nagkasundo ang [2:14:57] Senado at [2:14:57] ang Kongreso [2:14:58] kung magkano [2:14:58] ba dapat ang [2:14:59] itaas ang [2:14:59] sahod, kung [2:15:00] 200 ba o [2:15:01] isang [2:15:01] daad pa, pero [2:15:03] ang Kongreso [2:15:03] ay nakikisa [2:15:05] na dapat [2:15:06] 200 [2:15:06] ang itataas [2:15:07] ng sahod. [2:15:08] Thank you, [2:15:08] Mr. [2:15:08] Chair. [2:15:09] If I [2:15:09] can actually [2:15:11] defend the [2:15:12] House for [2:15:13] doing its [2:15:14] best to [2:15:15] get the [2:15:16] highest proposed [2:15:18] wage hike [2:15:19] among the [2:15:20] options thus [2:15:21] far approved, [2:15:22] and I [2:15:23] hope the [2:15:23] Senate can [2:15:24] earnestly [2:15:25] consider approving [2:15:26] the 200 [2:15:26] peso wage [2:15:28] hike, but I [2:15:29] also think that [2:15:29] the Senate [2:15:29] expressed its [2:15:31] willingness to [2:15:32] approve the [2:15:33] wage hike in [2:15:33] the 19th [2:15:34] Congress, but [2:15:34] according to [2:15:35] some who are [2:15:36] there, there [2:15:38] was a member of [2:15:38] the Cabinet [2:15:39] who called [2:15:40] those in the [2:15:41] Senate not to [2:15:42] approve any [2:15:43] version of the [2:15:43] bill on the [2:15:44] last day of [2:15:45] the 19th [2:15:45] Congress. [2:15:46] It is not [2:15:46] the House's [2:15:47] fault, it is [2:15:48] not the [2:15:48] Senate's fault. [2:15:50] According to [2:15:50] members who [2:15:51] were there, it [2:15:52] is the fault [2:15:54] of the economic [2:15:55] managers led by [2:15:56] a certain [2:15:57] member of the [2:15:58] Cabinet, and I [2:15:59] think that the [2:16:00] Deputy Speaker [2:16:01] might be able to [2:16:02] help us identify [2:16:03] this so that we [2:16:04] can solve this [2:16:05] problem moving [2:16:06] forward. [2:16:08] Mr. Deputy [2:16:09] Speaker, can I [2:16:11] ask who among [2:16:12] the economic [2:16:13] managers, [2:16:14] made a call [2:16:15] on the last [2:16:16] day of the [2:16:16] 19th Congress [2:16:17] not to pass [2:16:18] the wage hike [2:16:19] bill? [2:16:22] It was a joint [2:16:22] position paper [2:16:23] made by the [2:16:24] economic managers, [2:16:26] and I concur [2:16:26] with the [2:16:26] statement of [2:16:27] the Chair [2:16:27] that being [2:16:28] said. [2:16:30] Congressman [2:16:31] Leviste, sir. [2:16:33] Yes, Mr. Deputy [2:16:34] Speaker, I [2:16:35] appreciate your [2:16:37] long support [2:16:38] in the wage hike. [2:16:40] Canina, I was [2:16:41] talking with [2:16:41] Senior Majority [2:16:42] Leader, we [2:16:45] must revisit our [2:16:46] rules because [2:16:47] it is quite [2:16:48] unconstitutional. [2:16:49] you have laws [2:16:50] like that, [2:16:51] you have laws like [2:16:52] that, and I [2:16:53] think the [2:16:53] Chairman will also [2:16:54] concur with me, [2:16:55] that it will [2:16:55] be in the [2:16:56] Congreso, [2:16:57] in the Senado, [2:16:58] and we will [2:16:59] just be in the [2:16:59] Baykam. [2:17:00] There must be a [2:17:02] way if it has [2:17:03] reached to that [2:17:04] level, [2:17:05] that it will not [2:17:05] be able to [2:17:06] die, as lawyers [2:17:09] will always say [2:17:09] the third house, [2:17:11] which is wrong, [2:17:12] which is even [2:17:13] unconstitutional. [2:17:14] Then again, let us [2:17:15] study it more. [2:17:16] I discuss it with [2:17:18] the Senior Majority [2:17:20] Leader, probably we [2:17:22] can revise the [2:17:22] rules, but before [2:17:23] we're [2:17:23] in-depth study will [2:17:27] be done so that [2:17:28] it will not [2:17:29] repeat, a [2:17:31] repetition. [2:17:32] You know, [2:17:33] sayang talaga, [2:17:34] sayang talaga, [2:17:35] that the 200 wage [2:17:37] bill died because [2:17:39] of circumstances [2:17:41] like that. [2:17:41] I do not like [2:17:44] in the future, [2:17:45] it's my last [2:17:46] term, [2:17:46] it will happen [2:17:48] such a significant [2:17:49] bill, the 200 [2:17:50] wage increase. [2:17:51] Then, you know, [2:17:54] just because of [2:17:55] a Baykam, [2:17:57] when it reaches [2:17:58] already, when it [2:17:58] reaches already, [2:18:00] the least you can [2:18:03] do is [2:18:04] it is something [2:18:09] that we have to [2:18:09] study. [2:18:10] Thank you for [2:18:10] shedding light that [2:18:12] it was stopped at [2:18:13] the Baykam. [2:18:14] It is really [2:18:14] tiring. [2:18:15] You know, [2:18:15] in the Philippines [2:18:16] it's my camera, [2:18:17] you have to do [2:18:17] everything twice. [2:18:18] It's not easy. [2:18:19] I would just like [2:18:20] to come to the [2:18:20] defense of the [2:18:21] House and the [2:18:21] Senate, though, [2:18:22] that it was not [2:18:23] the Speaker or [2:18:24] the Senate [2:18:24] President or [2:18:25] the Chair of [2:18:25] either Labor [2:18:26] Committee that [2:18:27] didn't want it [2:18:28] to pass in the [2:18:28] Baykam. [2:18:29] As you said, [2:18:29] there was an [2:18:30] intervention by [2:18:30] the economic [2:18:31] managers. [2:18:32] There is a [2:18:33] statement by the [2:18:34] economic manager [2:18:35] at that time. [2:18:36] Now, I do not [2:18:37] like to speculate [2:18:38] whatever you draw [2:18:40] your own [2:18:40] conclusions to the [2:18:41] matter, but [2:18:42] definitely that is [2:18:43] something that we [2:18:44] have to [2:18:45] revisit. [2:18:46] I'm talking [2:18:46] about the [2:18:47] means that [2:18:48] if you [2:18:49] can't pass [2:18:49] the two [2:18:49] buildings of [2:18:51] Senado and [2:18:53] Congreso, [2:18:54] it's not [2:18:54] going to pass. [2:18:55] Congressman San [2:18:56] Fernando, may I [2:18:57] ask if you [2:18:58] recall what the [2:18:59] Deputy Speaker [2:19:00] told us a while [2:19:01] ago really [2:19:03] happened on the [2:19:03] last day of the [2:19:04] 19th Congress? [2:19:04] I cannot speak on [2:19:05] behalf of the [2:19:06] Deputy Speaker, but [2:19:07] inasmuch as [2:19:08] Tamanggagawa [2:19:08] partilis is [2:19:09] concerned, Honorable [2:19:10] Le Viste, we [2:19:12] have made our [2:19:13] position clear that [2:19:15] no other than the [2:19:16] President has [2:19:17] repeatedly blocked [2:19:18] any wage bills or [2:19:20] any wage reform [2:19:21] bills. [2:19:22] It has been [2:19:23] evident through [2:19:24] these statements [2:19:24] coming from the [2:19:25] Department of [2:19:25] Labor and [2:19:26] Employment, at [2:19:27] evident naman yan [2:19:28] sa position ng [2:19:29] economic managers. [2:19:30] So if the [2:19:31] economic managers [2:19:32] are positioning [2:19:34] themselves as [2:19:35] number one [2:19:37] oppositors, those [2:19:38] who oppose the [2:19:39] wage bills or [2:19:41] wage reform [2:19:42] bills, then by [2:19:44] logic we can say [2:19:45] that no other than [2:19:46] the President and [2:19:46] the Executive is [2:19:48] opposing any wage [2:19:49] bills or wage [2:19:50] reform bills. [2:19:51] Now, I'm [2:19:52] speaking as the [2:19:54] representative of [2:19:54] Tamanggagawa [2:19:55] partilis, we have [2:19:56] also asked the [2:19:57] Executive Secretary [2:19:58] not to [2:20:00] interfere with the [2:20:01] legislative function [2:20:02] of the House of [2:20:03] Representatives. [2:20:04] So this is coming [2:20:05] from us, [2:20:06] Tamanggagawa [2:20:06] partilis. [2:20:07] At ngayon, [2:20:09] merong nakasalang [2:20:10] tayo na wage [2:20:12] bills and wage [2:20:13] reform bills, [2:20:14] hindi naman nagbago [2:20:14] yung position ng [2:20:16] ating economic [2:20:17] managers and the [2:20:18] Department of [2:20:18] Labor and [2:20:19] Employment. [2:20:20] So Mr. Chair, [2:20:21] I'd also like to [2:20:22] take this opportunity [2:20:23] na sitahin si [2:20:25] Undersecretary [2:20:26] Claire Castro [2:20:27] dahil sinisise [2:20:28] ni Undersecretary [2:20:29] Claire Castro [2:20:30] ang Kongreso [2:20:31] na hindi [2:20:32] ginagampanan [2:20:33] ang kanyang [2:20:33] trabaho [2:20:34] at pinipintahan [2:20:35] na tayo raw [2:20:35] ay hindi [2:20:35] nagtatrabaho. [2:20:37] So on behalf [2:20:38] of the members [2:20:39] of the House [2:20:39] of Representatives, [2:20:40] we ask [2:20:40] Undersecretary [2:20:41] Claire Castro [2:20:42] to refrain [2:20:43] issuing [2:20:44] such statements [2:20:45] because we [2:20:45] have been [2:20:46] doing our [2:20:46] job since [2:20:47] the 19th [2:20:47] Congress [2:20:48] and now [2:20:48] we are [2:20:49] discussing [2:20:50] the [2:20:50] legislated [2:20:51] wage increase [2:20:51] as well [2:20:52] as the [2:20:52] abolition [2:20:52] of [2:20:53] provincial [2:20:53] rate [2:20:53] through [2:20:54] House Bill [2:20:54] number [2:20:54] 8081. [2:20:56] Kaya wag [2:20:56] ituro ng [2:20:56] Executive [2:20:57] Mr. Chair [2:20:57] ang Kongreso [2:20:59] na hindi [2:20:59] ginagampanan [2:21:00] ng Kongreso [2:21:01] ang kanyang [2:21:01] trabaho. [2:21:02] Yun lang po [2:21:03] Mr. Chair [2:21:03] and that's [2:21:04] for the benefit [2:21:05] sa mga tanong po [2:21:05] ni... [2:21:06] Mr. Chair [2:21:06] if I may [2:21:07] just add [2:21:07] I think [2:21:07] the reason [2:21:08] why Undersecretary [2:21:09] Castro [2:21:10] is coming [2:21:10] to the [2:21:10] defense [2:21:10] of the [2:21:11] executive [2:21:11] is because [2:21:11] you are [2:21:12] saying [2:21:12] it's the [2:21:13] president [2:21:13] that made [2:21:14] the call [2:21:15] on the [2:21:15] last day [2:21:15] of the [2:21:16] 19th [2:21:16] Congress [2:21:16] but I [2:21:17] think [2:21:17] many of [2:21:18] the [2:21:18] defenders [2:21:18] of the [2:21:18] president [2:21:18] would say [2:21:19] that is [2:21:19] unfair [2:21:19] because [2:21:20] I think [2:21:21] the president [2:21:21] did not [2:21:22] call [2:21:22] members [2:21:23] of the [2:21:23] BICAM [2:21:23] on the [2:21:24] 19th [2:21:24] Congress [2:21:24] last day [2:21:25] I think [2:21:26] that we [2:21:27] were told [2:21:27] just a [2:21:29] few minutes [2:21:29] ago [2:21:30] that it [2:21:31] was a [2:21:32] member [2:21:32] of the [2:21:32] economic [2:21:33] team [2:21:33] that called [2:21:34] the members [2:21:35] of the [2:21:35] BICAM [2:21:35] on the [2:21:35] last day [2:21:36] and the [2:21:36] reason I'm [2:21:36] bringing [2:21:36] this [2:21:36] up [2:21:37] is because [2:21:37] if we [2:21:38] don't [2:21:38] solve [2:21:38] this [2:21:39] root [2:21:40] problem [2:21:40] it might [2:21:42] happen [2:21:42] again [2:21:42] that [2:21:43] we are [2:21:44] having [2:21:44] these [2:21:44] lengthy [2:21:45] hearings [2:21:45] and it [2:21:46] will [2:21:47] finally [2:21:47] get to [2:21:47] the [2:21:47] end [2:21:47] of [2:21:48] the [2:21:48] legislative [2:21:48] process [2:21:49] only [2:21:49] for [2:21:50] a [2:21:52] member [2:21:52] of [2:21:52] the [2:21:52] cabinet [2:21:52] who [2:21:53] remains [2:21:53] a [2:21:54] member [2:21:54] of [2:21:55] the [2:21:55] cabinet [2:21:55] now [2:21:55] to [2:21:56] interfere [2:21:57] and I [2:21:58] think [2:21:58] the [2:21:59] Congressman [2:21:59] of [2:22:00] Kamanggagawa [2:22:00] Party [2:22:00] has already [2:22:01] said it [2:22:02] was the [2:22:02] executive [2:22:02] secretary [2:22:03] who [2:22:04] made [2:22:05] that [2:22:05] intervention [2:22:05] that's [2:22:10] why [2:22:10] we are [2:22:11] passing [2:22:11] through [2:22:11] the [2:22:11] right [2:22:12] processes [2:22:12] that [2:22:13] need [2:22:14] to [2:22:14] do [2:22:14] what [2:22:16] we [2:22:17] should [2:22:17] do [2:22:18] and [2:22:19] action [2:22:21] and [2:22:21] pass [2:22:22] on a [2:22:24] last [2:22:24] note [2:22:24] Mr. [2:22:24] Chair [2:22:25] just so [2:22:26] that [2:22:26] all the [2:22:26] labor [2:22:26] advocates [2:22:27] can [2:22:27] also [2:22:28] be [2:22:29] informed [2:22:29] who [2:22:30] to [2:22:30] convince [2:22:31] so [2:22:32] that [2:22:32] this [2:22:32] bill [2:22:32] will [2:22:33] pass [2:22:33] I [2:22:34] think [2:22:34] in [2:22:35] defense [2:22:36] of [2:22:37] the [2:22:37] president [2:22:37] it [2:22:38] was [2:22:38] not [2:22:38] him [2:22:38] who [2:22:39] made [2:22:39] the [2:22:39] call [2:22:39] on [2:22:40] the [2:22:40] last [2:22:40] day [2:22:40] of [2:22:40] the [2:22:40] 19th [2:22:41] Congress [2:22:41] it [2:22:42] was [2:22:43] the [2:22:44] member [2:22:44] of [2:22:44] the [2:22:44] cabinet [2:22:44] just [2:22:45] named [2:22:45] by [2:22:45] Congressman [2:22:46] San [2:22:46] Fernando [2:22:47] and [2:22:48] okay [2:22:49] if I [2:22:50] can [2:22:50] just [2:22:50] go [2:22:50] and [2:22:50] say [2:22:50] it [2:22:50] now [2:22:51] we [2:22:52] were [2:22:52] informed [2:22:52] just [2:22:53] a few [2:22:53] minutes [2:22:53] ago [2:22:53] that [2:22:54] it [2:22:54] was [2:22:54] Ralph [2:22:55] Recto [2:22:55] that [2:22:56] called [2:22:56] members [2:22:57] of [2:22:57] the [2:22:57] BICAM [2:22:57] on [2:22:58] the [2:22:58] 19th [2:22:59] day [2:22:59] on [2:23:00] the [2:23:00] last [2:23:00] day [2:23:00] of [2:23:00] the [2:23:00] 19th [2:23:01] Congress [2:23:01] not [2:23:09] this [2:23:09] because [2:23:10] it [2:23:11] is [2:23:11] a [2:23:12] true [2:23:12] statement [2:23:13] so [2:23:14] I [2:23:14] just [2:23:15] think [2:23:15] it [2:23:15] would [2:23:15] be [2:23:15] beneficial [2:23:16] if [2:23:16] we [2:23:17] could [2:23:17] say [2:23:17] these [2:23:17] things [2:23:17] openly [2:23:18] I [2:23:18] was [2:23:18] trying [2:23:18] to [2:23:19] tease [2:23:19] it [2:23:19] out [2:23:19] from [2:23:19] other [2:23:20] people [2:23:20] here [2:23:20] just [2:23:22] a few [2:23:22] minutes [2:23:22] ago [2:23:22] we [2:23:22] were [2:23:23] told [2:23:23] that [2:23:23] it [2:23:24] was [2:23:24] Secretary [2:23:25] Ralph [2:23:25] Recto [2:23:26] that [2:23:26] caused [2:23:27] the [2:23:28] wage [2:23:28] hike [2:23:29] bill [2:23:29] not [2:23:29] to [2:23:29] pass [2:23:30] whether [2:23:30] rightly [2:23:30] or [2:23:30] wrongly [2:23:31] whether [2:23:31] constitutionally [2:23:31] or [2:23:32] not [2:23:32] it [2:23:33] is [2:23:33] not [2:23:33] Congress [2:23:33] or [2:23:34] the [2:23:34] Senate [2:23:34] that [2:23:34] decided [2:23:35] not [2:23:35] to [2:23:35] pass [2:23:35] the [2:23:36] wage [2:23:36] hike [2:23:36] bill [2:23:36] on [2:23:36] the [2:23:36] last [2:23:37] day [2:23:37] of [2:23:37] the [2:23:37] 19th [2:23:37] Congress [2:23:37] it [2:23:38] was [2:23:38] Secretary [2:23:38] Ralph [2:23:39] Recto [2:23:39] as [2:23:40] also [2:23:40] alluded [2:23:40] to [2:23:41] by [2:23:41] Deputy [2:23:42] Speaker [2:23:42] Mendoza [2:23:43] in [2:23:45] referring [2:23:45] to [2:23:45] the [2:23:45] economic [2:23:46] managers [2:23:46] Thank you very much [2:24:05] Mr. Chair [2:24:05] it's [2:24:06] Mr. [2:24:07] Leviste [2:24:08] as [2:24:10] as [2:24:10] possible [2:24:11] knowledge [2:24:12] there's [2:24:12] even [2:24:13] a [2:24:13] formal [2:24:14] letter [2:24:14] to [2:24:15] they [2:24:15] released [2:24:15] a [2:24:16] statement [2:24:16] the [2:24:17] economic [2:24:17] managers [2:24:18] released [2:24:18] a [2:24:18] statement [2:24:18] led [2:24:19] by [2:24:19] Secretary [2:24:20] Ralph [2:24:21] Recto [2:24:21] opposition [2:24:22] and even [2:24:24] see [2:24:24] Secretary [2:24:25] Balisaka [2:24:25] nang [2:24:26] kutumawag [2:24:27] diba [2:24:27] kutumawag [2:24:28] thank [2:24:31] you [2:24:31] thank [2:24:33] you [2:24:33] representative [2:24:35] to adjourn [2:24:37] any [2:24:37] objection [2:24:38] yes [2:24:39] yes [2:24:40] kung [2:24:42] ano [2:24:42] man [2:24:43] yung [2:24:43] nangyari [2:24:43] nung [2:24:44] nakaraang [2:24:45] kongreso [2:24:45] umabot [2:24:46] sa [2:24:46] BICAM [2:24:47] and yes [2:24:48] pamosisyon [2:24:48] ang [2:24:48] executive [2:24:49] kaya [2:24:50] na [2:24:51] discurried [2:24:51] ito [2:24:52] pero [2:24:52] let us [2:24:53] remind [2:24:53] ourselves [2:24:55] that [2:24:56] congress [2:24:57] is an [2:24:57] independent [2:24:58] and [2:24:58] co-eag [2:24:59] branch [2:24:59] so [2:25:00] ang [2:25:00] hamon [2:25:00] sa [2:25:00] ating [2:25:01] ngayon [2:25:01] ipasa [2:25:01] ngayon [2:25:02] ito [2:25:02] sa [2:25:02] house [2:25:02] magpasa [2:25:04] ang [2:25:04] senado [2:25:04] kung [2:25:05] tututul [2:25:07] ang [2:25:07] presidente [2:25:08] i-vito [2:25:09] niya [2:25:10] diba [2:25:10] so [2:25:11] ganun [2:25:11] dapat [2:25:11] ang [2:25:12] position [2:25:12] natin [2:25:12] and [2:25:13] ganun [2:25:13] ang [2:25:13] ipaglaban [2:25:13] natin [2:25:14] One [2:25:15] final [2:25:15] constructive [2:25:16] point [2:25:16] I'm not [2:25:17] saying [2:25:17] this [2:25:17] to make [2:25:18] it [2:25:18] personal [2:25:18] but [2:25:18] so [2:25:19] that [2:25:19] we [2:25:19] can [2:25:19] get [2:25:19] this [2:25:19] bill [2:25:19] passed [2:25:20] that [2:25:21] if [2:25:22] moving [2:25:22] forward [2:25:22] no one [2:25:23] will [2:25:23] block [2:25:23] it [2:25:23] so [2:25:24] much [2:25:24] the [2:25:24] better [2:25:24] pero [2:25:25] kung [2:25:25] meron [2:25:25] man [2:25:26] sino [2:25:26] man [2:25:26] sa [2:25:26] kabinete [2:25:27] nahaharang [2:25:28] sa pagpasaan [2:25:28] ng mga [2:25:28] bills [2:25:29] nito [2:25:29] at [2:25:29] nga [2:25:29] iba [2:25:29] pa [2:25:30] sana [2:25:30] huwag [2:25:31] tayong [2:25:31] mahiya [2:25:31] na [2:25:32] pangalanan [2:25:33] natin [2:25:33] sila [2:25:33] sa [2:25:33] publiko [2:25:34] para [2:25:35] magdadalawang [2:25:35] isip [2:25:36] ang mga [2:25:44] magagawa [2:25:45] si [2:25:45] secretary [2:25:46] balisakan [2:25:46] at [2:25:46] si [2:25:47] secretary [2:25:47] go [2:25:47] ay [2:25:48] may [2:25:48] mga [2:25:48] puso [2:25:49] din [2:25:49] para [2:25:49] sa [2:25:50] magagawa [2:25:50] kaya [2:25:51] kung [2:25:51] sila [2:25:52] ay [2:25:52] tatanungin [2:25:52] siguro [2:25:53] hindi [2:25:53] sila [2:25:54] makikialam [2:25:55] sa [2:25:56] kongreso [2:25:57] sana [2:25:57] ang [2:25:58] iba [2:25:58] pang [2:25:59] mga [2:25:59] miyembro [2:25:59] ng [2:25:59] kabinete [2:26:00] ay [2:26:00] hindi [2:26:00] na [2:26:00] rin [2:26:00] makikialam [2:26:01] kahit [2:26:02] na [2:26:02] hindi [2:26:03] sila [2:26:03] susukorta [2:26:04] huwag [2:26:04] lang [2:26:04] silang [2:26:05] makialam [2:26:05] at [2:26:05] kung [2:26:05] may [2:26:06] makikialaman [2:26:06] sana [2:26:07] pangalanan [2:26:08] natin [2:26:08] sila [2:26:15] second [2:26:15] motion [2:26:16] just [2:26:19] wanted [2:26:19] to [2:26:19] clarify [2:26:19] if [2:26:20] you [2:26:20] could [2:26:21] rule [2:26:21] in [2:26:21] it [2:26:21] um [2:26:22] the [2:26:23] vice [2:26:24] chair [2:26:24] made [2:26:24] a [2:26:24] motion [2:26:24] to [2:26:24] adjourn [2:26:25] before [2:26:25] the [2:26:26] yes [2:26:26] yes [2:26:26] the [2:26:27] manifestations [2:26:27] um [2:26:28] what [2:26:28] would be [2:26:28] the [2:26:29] ruling [2:26:29] of [2:26:29] the [2:26:29] committee [2:26:30] on [2:26:30] putting [2:26:31] on [2:26:31] record [2:26:32] the [2:26:32] manifestations [2:26:33] made [2:26:33] after [2:26:34] the [2:26:35] motion [2:26:36] to [2:26:36] adjourn [2:26:36] as a [2:26:36] matter [2:26:37] of [2:26:37] um [2:26:38] rules [2:26:38] in [2:26:39] motion [2:26:43] to [2:26:43] suspend [2:26:43] uh [2:26:44] um [2:26:53] thank [2:27:12] you [2:27:12] you [2:27:14] you