About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of Gatchalian bloc-led blue ribbon panel hearing on anamalous flood control projects — June 8 from INQUIRER.net, published June 8, 2026. The transcript contains 17,638 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"today we gather for a consultative meeting and our organizational briefing to organize the blue ribbon committee under the present majority block headed by senate pro tempore and acting senate president sherwin gachalian to be clear we will be asking for updates from the executive agencies as we..."
[1:19:39] today we gather for a consultative meeting and our organizational briefing to organize the blue
[1:19:46] ribbon committee under the present majority block headed by senate pro tempore and acting senate
[1:19:52] president sherwin gachalian to be clear we will be asking for updates from the executive agencies
[1:20:01] as we proceed this committee must likewise address the circumstances surrounding the
[1:20:05] june 4 press conference held in the session hall that press conference was presented to the public
[1:20:12] as a blue ribbon committee proceeding despite having no authorization from the duly recognized
[1:20:20] chairman of the committee or from the office of the acting senate president it was conducted outside
[1:20:27] established senate rules and institutional processes simply put it was not a legitimate blue ribbon
[1:20:34] hearing committee hearing it was irregular a house show she may want to call it a make-believe
[1:20:40] investigation masquerading as an official senate proceeding sa isinagawang ilihiti mong pagdinig
[1:20:48] ang mga testimony ang labing walong maleta boys kaugnay sa diumari milyon milyong kickback mula sa
[1:20:56] flood control projects na diniliver daw nila sa ilang mga opisyal kabilang na po sa inyong lingkod at maging
[1:21:03] sa isang pare ito po ay walang basihan walang katotohanan ni walang naipresentan dokumento resibo o anumang
[1:21:15] kong kongkretong patunay kundi puro salita lamang madali pong magturo madaling gumawa ng kwento at
[1:21:25] napakadaling manira na reputasyon kaya tungkulin po ng blue ribbon committee natiyaki ng bawat
[1:21:32] aligasyon ay nakabatay sa matibay na ebidensya at mapagkatiwala ang testimonya hindi po tayo papayag na basta na
[1:21:42] lamang may darating po dito sa committee na ito para maglahad na kung ano ano na wala naman po mga
[1:21:49] ebidensya o mga testigo na bigla na lamang pong susulpot kinabukasan na hindi na po mahagilap hindi tayo narito
[1:21:58] upang magbigay ng hatol batay lamang po sa mga haka haka narito tayo upang alamin ang katotohanan at this
[1:22:05] juncture please allow me to acknowledge the presence of my esteemed colleagues senators kiko pangilinan our vice
[1:22:14] chairperson our uh acting senate president senate uh pro tempore wingachalian and uh my colleague
[1:22:25] senator raphi tulfo thank you for coming today before we proceed let us pause for a minute of silent
[1:22:33] prayer for our kababayans in mindanao meron pong uh 7.8 na lindol na tumama po doon kanikanina lamang
[1:22:42] nais ko rin pong uh gamitin po pagkakataon na ito upang batiin pong isa nating kababayan si alex
[1:23:22] siala for winning the birmingham tennis championship sa united kingdom congratulations po uh at this
[1:23:31] juncture please allow me to acknowledge the press of me at uh may i now request the blue ribbon committee
[1:23:36] secretary to acknowledge our resource persons for today uh committee secretary the following resource
[1:23:46] persons are present from the department of public works and highways under secretary ricardo bernabe
[1:23:52] the third under secretary arthur bisnar from the department of justice prosecutor general richard
[1:24:01] anthony fadulion under secretary nicolas t assistant secretary joey bernardes from the department of
[1:24:10] budget and management assistant secretary andrea selene magtalas from the office of the ombudsman attorney
[1:24:24] karen batu attorney jeffrey ravello from the national bureau of investigation director melby we invited
[1:24:35] uh representative ferdinand martin romoldes representative sia alonto adion representative
[1:24:42] jose alvarez representative julian jam baronda representative lila de lima uh through speaker b um the reason for
[1:24:53] their absence uh attorney cello a billy billy billy karia garafil said that uh said that the house of
[1:25:09] recep the house that wait sorry sir they sent a letter respectfully declining the invitation on the
[1:25:32] grounds of parliamentary courtesy okay what about the uh 18 uh bodyguards uh come sec we invite them we
[1:25:46] have not yes we we invited them but we have not received any reply what about uh uh attorney baligod uh
[1:25:55] did we invite them did yes your honor we invited but we have not received any reply uh what about former
[1:26:01] congressman mike defensor did we invite him we did not invite um former congressman mike defensor
[1:26:16] son senator erwin uh magandang umaga sa ating lahat uh as earlier noted for the record today's
[1:26:25] proceedings are being conducted as a consultation and organizational meeting rather than a hearing
[1:26:31] of the committee the purpose is to facilitate the orderly transition and continuity of the committee's work
[1:26:38] pending uh the completion of its reorganization uh and membership and formal constitution of the
[1:26:47] committee as we proceed with the formal and official the june 3 session convened by 12 senators was in
[1:27:04] compliance with the constitution the rules of the senate and jurisprudence and 12 being a quorum
[1:27:11] all acts pertaining to the official business of the senate in plenary on june 3 are deemed lawful
[1:27:18] consistent with the constitution including the motion to declare all elected positions vacant which
[1:27:26] includes the position of senate president number one number two the election of senator winn gachalian
[1:27:34] as senate president pro temp to address the vacancy in the position of senate president is also lawful
[1:27:42] and consistent with the constitution and number three the election of senator erwin tulfo as chairperson
[1:27:49] of the blue ribbon committee is likewise lawful and consistent with our rules in addition the official
[1:27:56] acts of the senate in plenary last june 3 has been recognized as lawful and consistent with the
[1:28:02] constitution by the office of the president the house of representatives several retired supreme court
[1:28:10] justices deans and eminent professors of law of various law schools nationwide five former senate
[1:28:18] presidents and no less than the integrated bar of the philippines the largest organization of lawyers in
[1:28:26] the country as such we reiterate therefore that the so-called blue ribbon committee hearing conducted
[1:28:34] last thursday june 4 was illegal void ab initio ab initio and no binding had no binding effect it is in
[1:28:45] this context that today's public consultation and organizational meeting of the blue ribbon committee
[1:28:51] is being called to order and we hope that with this uh proceedings we will be able to get to the bottom
[1:29:01] of the truth behind the allegations uh earlier uh presented thank you mr chairman and i yield the floor
[1:29:10] thank you uh senator uh pangalina and we now uh go to uh our acting uh senate president the senate
[1:29:17] pro tempore chairman and let me uh acknowledge uh and thank our chairman chairman erwin tulfo for calling this
[1:29:25] uh uh uh hearing slash consultative meeting uh let me also thank our vice chairman vice chairman tico pangalina
[1:29:44] and of course of course all the members of this uh esteemed uh committee uh unang-una sa lahat po
[1:29:50] uh nakakadismaya na hindi po umaten yung 18 bodyguards yung kanilang abogado na si attorney baligod at si uh
[1:30:02] uh ginoong mike defensor dito sa ating uh patawag ito po ay official na patawag ah nag-release po ang
[1:30:08] blue ribbon na sekretariat ng official na invitation ah ipinosto sa website ah itong ating ah ah
[1:30:19] ah consultative event consultative meeting today ay ah nas in-stream rin po sa website at ah makikita
[1:30:29] ho natin na full complement po ang nandito po sa consultative meeting at ah nakakadismaya po dahil
[1:30:37] kung alam ng mga invited guests particularly po yung ah 18 bodyguards na sa loob ng kanilang puso ay alam
[1:30:47] nila ang kototohanan eh dapat pumunta po sila dito para ipamahagi at ishare sa ating lahat ang
[1:30:54] katotohanan hindi ho pwedeng pumili kung saan sila pupunta at magsalita hindi ho pwedeng pumili kung
[1:31:01] sino ang kakausapin ho nila kung kakampi man o hindi dahil kung alam mo na sa puso mo ang
[1:31:06] katotohanan kahit saan kang pupunta kahit saan ka pumunta katotohanan dapat mong sabihin marami ho kaming ako
[1:31:15] ah personally marami po akong inihandang mga katanungan ah nakita ko po yung kanilang mga
[1:31:22] sinumpaang salaysay marami po akong gustong itanong dahil marami po akong nakikitang inconsistency
[1:31:28] gaps at gusto kong malinawan itong mga inconsistencies at gaps ah nagprepara ho tayo para makausap po sila
[1:31:36] at maging parang po maging patas ang pagdinig ho natin ngayong ah umagang ito pero sa ganitong ah sitwasyon ah kami po ako po personal na
[1:31:48] nadid nandidismaya dahil hindi ho natin ngayon hindi ho tayo nagkaroon ngayon ng pagkakatoon para matanong sila at
[1:31:55] lalong ah klaruhin yung mga kanilang isinasabi ah itong mga nakaraang ah mga panahon ah sa alam ko ho marami ho silang iniputan na iba't ibang venue ah
[1:32:06] para magsalita pero ito po yung pinakamahalagang venue para po ilahad ang katotohanan so sa ganitong
[1:32:14] punto ako po yung nagpapasalamat po sa ating chairman ah sa kanyang ah ah paghahanda dito sa ating ah
[1:32:22] aktibidad ngayong araw na ito at ah nagpapasalamat po ako sa lahat ng ating mga kasamahan dahil ah nagbigay
[1:32:29] ho sila ng oras at naghanda sila no para harapin po itong mga ah eating bodyguards na ah
[1:32:36] ah na ah na marami pong sinasabi tungkol po sa iba't iba pong mga personalidad marami marami
[1:32:45] salamat po marami salamat po uh senator tempore acting uh senate president uh winga chilyan
[1:32:52] we'd also like to acknowledge the presence of our colleagues senator uh uh jv
[1:32:59] here's ito senator bamakino senator tito soto and senator risa anteveros uh we now uh
[1:33:07] i believe uh senator rafi has a statement thank you mr chair mr chair mr chair it took all my energy to uh
[1:33:16] not to gate crush the live selling that happened here last june 4 the way it happened the way it
[1:33:23] was handled the statements being made gusto ko lang talagang pumunta rito hindi naman po ako
[1:33:30] invited dun sa conference nila na yon i waited for today's hearing to confront the resourceful
[1:33:37] persons they presented let me call on them labing walong kargador kasi nga po nagkakarga sila
[1:33:46] mga mali maletang pera sabi nga nila yun po talaga ang trabaho nila taga bit bit taga karga
[1:33:50] ng maleta una sino ba itong labing walong kargador na mga maleta saan ba sila galing we cannot simply
[1:34:00] bring in people sa blue ribbon committee na nag-aakusa na mabibigat na paratang nang hindi man
[1:34:06] lang nalalaman kung karapat dapat ba sila paniwalaan kasi simulang simula pa lamang po na tinawag silang
[1:34:14] 18 marines may paglilil lang na agad yung bansag na 18 marines sa isang paraan upang pabanguhin sila
[1:34:22] sa publiko matik po kasi yan pag sinabing marines aba iba po ang respeto na mga tao pero hindi naman po
[1:34:32] silang lahat ay dating marines at mahigit kalahati sa kanila is discharged without honors or dishonorably
[1:34:41] discharged from service for various offenses ibig sabihin palpak sila tulad na pagiging able
[1:34:48] o absent without leave why is this information very important because for people to believe their
[1:34:57] allegations it must come from a credible and reliable source and so the people using them portray
[1:35:05] them as heroes god damn sabi nga ng isa sa mga senador na dumalo nung araw na yon bayani daw po sila
[1:35:14] pero na nga kaya naman po sila sa iba natin mga bayani na itong labing walong kargador na ilang
[1:35:23] tao nagtrabaho kay saldiko may seven years at nine years at nagbitbit daw sabi nila ng sangkatutak
[1:35:31] ng maleta ng pera at bigla na lang tinubuan ng konsensya at ngayon ay naninira lang buhay ng mga
[1:35:40] inusenteng tao ay tatawagin nating bayani pasensya na di ako papayag na matabi ang mga sinungaling
[1:35:50] neto kila Jose Rizal Andres Bonifacio at mga dakila nating OFWs at dito papasok ang pangulokong
[1:35:58] punto hindi lang po ang kredibilidad ng labing walong kargador ang kaduda duda ang mismong testimonya
[1:36:06] nila ay nakakapagtaka lumabas na po ang ilan sa mga ito sa balita pero pasadaan lang po natin let me show
[1:36:15] some video clips of the hearing video one si father plabi ay hinatiran ko ng pera doon sa mininaw ab isang
[1:36:30] sobre yun sir anong lugar po yun sa mininaw ab sa mismo simbahan niya sir sa may gilid ng kalsada
[1:36:37] bakit po kayo nagdala ng pera doon sa pare kasi sir pang hindi ko ano sir kung pagano nila
[1:36:46] yun sir eh basta nagdala lang ako yun ng pera sir tapos doon sa 33 maleta din ba hindi nila mo ah isang
[1:36:54] sobre sir tapos doon sir sa 33 clemente baka naman sulat lang pinadala kaya
[1:36:58] pero sir kita ko mismo sir eh tapos sa 33 clemente sir isang ano isang maleta
[1:37:05] kanino kay father plabi binuwat ko papunta sa sakyan niya tapos yung suot niya sir itim napangpare
[1:37:11] sagot naman ni diocese of kabao bishop elias ayubad jr there is no church entrusted to the society of the divine
[1:37:19] word on mindanao avenue or anywhere in its vicinity pangalawa iphone time travel 2024 pa lang wala
[1:37:34] napang iphone 16e noong 2024 mutok yung flood control po 2024 ah nakapagsalita na po dito si
[1:37:47] master sergeant orligo tisa ngayon ah maraming nagliligaw sa amin na ano po ano po
[1:37:55] mililigawan po kami na hindi na po kami pagsalita yung lahat ng cellphone po namin ibibigay po sa
[1:38:02] kang nila sa anong dahilan ah papalitan po ng mga bago po iphone po ano
[1:38:11] mang klase yung mga cellphone nyo nokia iphone 16 so papalitan nila ng mas maganda ah yes
[1:38:17] sir ronor alam ninyo yung dahilan kung ba't nila gagawin yun kasi nandun yung mga picture
[1:38:22] namin yun ano klaseng cellphone para ma record iphone 16e 128 gb nang i-check ng news 5
[1:38:30] sa mismong website ng apple lumalabas na february 21 2025 ang pre-order na naturang model na sinasabi
[1:38:37] ng bagman sahiri ang atlo pinili na impormasyon ano ang nangyari sa pagpapalabas ng katotohanan kung
[1:38:49] pinipili lang nila kung sino ang ilalabas malinaw ang detalya nila sa una nilang affidavit tungkol sa
[1:38:55] mga maletang dinala sa ilan namin kasamahan dito na may address pa pero bakit parang
[1:39:00] mirakulo na naglaho ang naratibo tungkol dito sa uli yan affidavit nung ah mga dating sundalo
[1:39:09] nandun din si senator loren daw at saka yung ah magkapatid na bill yards ngayon po lang nakit
[1:39:15] david i have not read etc pangapat aking pinasilip ang lugar na yun sa makati video for money
[1:39:28] changing nag-advise po si boss magpapalit kami ng piso to dollar na dalawang maleta doon sa makati
[1:39:36] po so bibili kayo ng us dollar yes yes our honor dinala po namin ito sa perbank makati salsedo
[1:39:43] village po dalawang maleta worth of ah 50 ah to 60 m po ang laman aking po pinasilip ang lugar na
[1:39:56] yun sa makati at walang record na money changers of pearl bank building dapat po makumpirma ito at
[1:40:04] syempre na dyan din po makadudadudang testimonya nila labang kay senator soto na pinabulaanan niya na
[1:40:10] dahil nga matagal ng patay ang sinasabi nilang cea mark or executive assistant
[1:40:17] mark at ang pambawi nila ng allegasyon tungkol kay representative lila dilima na noong mga
[1:40:24] panahon na yun ay hindi pa kongresista at nakakulong pa at sabi niyong busman boeing rimulya
[1:40:30] ang isang letrato ay delivery na nangyari ng panahon ni speaker lord bilasto pa and so i come to my
[1:40:39] third point because it seems that some of the information from these 18 porters or kargador
[1:40:45] are fed they have a hard time telling their story on their own
[1:40:50] kung papanawin mo ang live selling nila noong webes hirap sila ikwento ang kanilang naratibo
[1:40:56] the presiding officers of that conference were coaching and leading the resourceful persons
[1:41:04] pag medyo nagkakamali siyempre inaayos ng mga presiding officers ang testimonya
[1:41:12] minsan si attorney baligod na hindi naman involved sa pagbitbit ng malita ay siyang tumitistigo tungkol sa nangyari
[1:41:20] e wala naman siyang personal knowledge
[1:41:22] ikaapat na punto nais ko pong humingi ng dispensa sa ating mga senate media bilang broadcaster
[1:41:30] at kasapi na media masakit po tuwing nababansagan ng ilan sa atin na bayaran
[1:41:37] kasi nasisira po ang profesyon natin pero itong pagsisigawan na bayaran ng karamihan sa atin
[1:41:44] dito sa lugar na tinawag niyo ng tahanan at buong puso niyong pinuprotektahan sa mga magitan
[1:41:50] na makatotohan ang pagpapayag ay tatawagin kayong bayaran
[1:41:54] hindi po tama yun
[1:41:57] this institution time and time again owes you its dignity
[1:42:00] because you keep the senators on their toes
[1:42:04] and make sure we stay true to the filipino people
[1:42:07] at kay senator caytano
[1:42:09] wag po tayo masyadong demanding
[1:42:12] itong magreklamo na wala ka sa front page
[1:42:15] limited pong front page space
[1:42:18] ng mga dyaryo
[1:42:19] kaya pililan po talaga ang nalalagay dyan
[1:42:23] pero hindi ibig sabihin din na sila patas
[1:42:26] dahil kung titignan mo naman online
[1:42:29] all these news outlets reported his statement
[1:42:33] it is in their online platform
[1:42:35] kung saan libu libu ang nagbabasa
[1:42:39] the front page is reserved for the biggest and latest news
[1:42:42] yun bang bagong kaganapan
[1:42:46] yun po kasing pagkapit sa kapangyarihan
[1:42:49] at hindi pagtanggap sa pagkatalo nyo
[1:42:51] lumambalita na po
[1:42:52] but nevertheless
[1:42:54] it was reported upon
[1:42:56] i-google nyo po yun
[1:42:57] and
[1:42:59] my fifth point
[1:43:01] we have to look into the allegation
[1:43:03] na nabayaran ng 5 milyon
[1:43:05] ang labing walong kargador
[1:43:07] I'm not saying it's true
[1:43:09] hirap po ng NBI
[1:43:11] itong witness nila na nagsabi noon
[1:43:13] pero ang masasabi ko lang
[1:43:15] ginamit lang kayo
[1:43:16] ng mga malalaking tao
[1:43:18] para sa mga personal nilang interest
[1:43:20] sa politika
[1:43:21] kulang yung 5 milyon
[1:43:23] kunwari inanalayan nila kayo
[1:43:26] pero pagharapin nyo
[1:43:28] na itong sangkatutak na kaso
[1:43:30] na isasampas sa inyo
[1:43:31] nitong mga siniraan ninyo
[1:43:34] tingnan nyo
[1:43:35] unti-unti kayong iwan yan
[1:43:37] ngayon pa lang
[1:43:39] nainig mo na sila
[1:43:40] na nagugas kamay
[1:43:41] sa mga paratang nyo
[1:43:42] dumidistansya sila sa inyo
[1:43:44] dahan-dahan
[1:43:45] kaya sa ating mga kababayan
[1:43:47] magingat po tayo
[1:43:48] sa paniwalaan
[1:43:50] or papaniwalaan
[1:43:52] remember
[1:43:53] the devil
[1:43:55] can cite the scripture
[1:43:56] for his purpose
[1:43:58] no more no less
[1:44:00] when jesus
[1:44:02] went into the wilderness
[1:44:03] to pray
[1:44:04] the devil
[1:44:05] tried to tempt him
[1:44:07] three times
[1:44:08] but as we
[1:44:10] as
[1:44:11] but as he was
[1:44:12] failing to tempt
[1:44:13] jesus
[1:44:14] and as he was
[1:44:16] getting desperate
[1:44:17] what did the devil do
[1:44:19] he quoted the scriptures
[1:44:21] from the book
[1:44:22] of psalms
[1:44:23] wag po tayo
[1:44:25] magpapadala sa mga
[1:44:26] mabubulaklak
[1:44:27] na mga pananalita
[1:44:28] dahil lang
[1:44:29] siya ay nagbabasa
[1:44:30] ng biblia
[1:44:31] wag po tayo
[1:44:33] basta maniniwala
[1:44:34] dahil binansagang
[1:44:35] bayani
[1:44:35] o marins
[1:44:37] ang 18 na kargador
[1:44:38] buksan po natin
[1:44:40] ang ating mga mata
[1:44:41] taing at utak
[1:44:42] wag po tayo
[1:44:43] magpapadala sa mga
[1:44:44] live selling nila
[1:44:46] tingnan nyo po
[1:44:47] kung sino ang nagbebenta
[1:44:49] kasi kung mahistoryan
[1:44:51] ng pagbubudol
[1:44:52] at di tayo maingat
[1:44:54] tayo na pong susunod
[1:44:55] na biktima nila
[1:44:56] and before I end
[1:44:58] I would like
[1:45:01] to remind
[1:45:02] my colleagues
[1:45:04] here in the senate
[1:45:05] to please
[1:45:07] be very careful
[1:45:08] in calling out
[1:45:09] some people
[1:45:10] as bayani
[1:45:12] putting them
[1:45:14] on a pedestal
[1:45:15] dahil hindi naman
[1:45:17] talaga totoo
[1:45:18] because that will be
[1:45:20] a reflection of you
[1:45:21] tatawagin mo
[1:45:23] ang mga taong
[1:45:24] umami naman
[1:45:25] na nagdeliver
[1:45:26] ng mga kickback
[1:45:27] kung sino-sino
[1:45:28] ang ponche pilato
[1:45:28] so therefore
[1:45:30] matatawag siya
[1:45:31] ng sindikato
[1:45:31] so kung tatawagin mong
[1:45:33] bayani
[1:45:34] isang sindikato
[1:45:35] sindikato ka rin
[1:45:36] as simple as that
[1:45:38] maraming salamat
[1:45:38] Mr. Chair
[1:45:39] maraming salamat
[1:45:41] Senator
[1:45:42] Agdomo Lundi
[1:45:44] thank you
[1:45:44] thank you
[1:45:45] Senator JV
[1:45:47] Senator Bang
[1:45:48] okay
[1:45:48] now we go to
[1:45:50] Senator Tito Soto
[1:45:51] thank you
[1:45:55] I'm just here to listen
[1:45:56] I actually
[1:46:00] would not want
[1:46:01] to dignify
[1:46:02] parang siningit
[1:46:04] sa salaysay
[1:46:05] but nevertheless
[1:46:06] I'm here to listen
[1:46:07] Mr. Chairman
[1:46:08] thank you
[1:46:08] thank you very much
[1:46:12] Senator Soto
[1:46:14] Senator Rizzo
[1:46:15] Tiveros
[1:46:16] salamat po Mr. Chair
[1:46:18] at magandang umaga po
[1:46:20] sa lahat
[1:46:20] wala pong iniiwasan
[1:46:22] ang bagong mayorya
[1:46:24] ng Senado
[1:46:24] pero sa kahit anong
[1:46:27] investigason
[1:46:28] dapat
[1:46:29] ebidensya
[1:46:30] ang mangibabaw
[1:46:31] hindi kwento lang
[1:46:32] yan pong gusto
[1:46:34] sana nating
[1:46:35] alamin
[1:46:35] ngayong araw
[1:46:36] pero ang
[1:46:38] 18 ex-bodyguards
[1:46:40] hindi po
[1:46:41] sumipot ngayon
[1:46:42] sa Senado
[1:46:43] oportunidad po
[1:46:45] sana ito
[1:46:45] para malaman
[1:46:47] kung ano ba
[1:46:48] talaga ang totoo
[1:46:49] pero ang resource
[1:46:51] persons ay
[1:46:51] wala dito
[1:46:52] para patotohanan
[1:46:54] ng kwento nila
[1:46:55] sayang po
[1:46:57] I recall a quote
[1:46:59] which says
[1:47:00] truth
[1:47:01] doesn't mind
[1:47:02] being questioned
[1:47:03] a lie
[1:47:05] does not like
[1:47:06] being challenged
[1:47:07] salamat po Mr. Chair
[1:47:09] maraming salamat po
[1:47:13] Senador Riza
[1:47:16] Ontiveros
[1:47:17] thank you po
[1:47:17] before we go to
[1:47:20] the questioning
[1:47:22] in the matter
[1:47:24] of the order of
[1:47:25] rival of our
[1:47:26] colleagues
[1:47:28] unahin po natin
[1:47:30] mamaya
[1:47:30] si Senator
[1:47:31] Senate
[1:47:33] Pro Tempore
[1:47:33] Wingachalian
[1:47:34] followed by
[1:47:36] Senator
[1:47:37] Raffi
[1:47:38] Tulfo
[1:47:38] Senator
[1:47:39] JV
[1:47:39] Senator
[1:47:40] Baum
[1:47:40] Senator
[1:47:41] Soto
[1:47:41] and Senator
[1:47:42] Riz
[1:47:42] Ontiveros
[1:47:43] of course
[1:47:43] after
[1:47:43] the chairman
[1:47:46] it will be
[1:47:47] the vice chairman
[1:47:48] then the
[1:47:48] Senate
[1:47:49] Pro Tempore
[1:47:50] and let us
[1:47:52] before we go
[1:47:55] to the presentation
[1:47:56] of the various
[1:47:58] agencies
[1:47:59] present today
[1:48:01] that we
[1:48:01] invited
[1:48:02] like the
[1:48:02] National Bureau
[1:48:03] of Investigation
[1:48:03] the Ombudsman
[1:48:05] the Department
[1:48:05] of Public Works
[1:48:06] and Highways
[1:48:06] and the Department
[1:48:07] of Justice
[1:48:08] Department
[1:48:09] of Budget
[1:48:09] Management
[1:48:09] I would just
[1:48:10] like to
[1:48:10] quickly
[1:48:11] mention
[1:48:12] po
[1:48:12] kasi sinasabi po
[1:48:14] basing doon
[1:48:15] sa accusations
[1:48:16] under the
[1:48:16] blue ribbon
[1:48:17] of the
[1:48:18] 20th
[1:48:19] Congress
[1:48:20] headed by
[1:48:20] Senator
[1:48:21] Pink
[1:48:21] Luxon
[1:48:21] iwala pong
[1:48:22] nagawa
[1:48:22] actually
[1:48:24] there were
[1:48:24] bills filed
[1:48:25] because of
[1:48:26] the investigation
[1:48:26] isa po
[1:48:28] diyan
[1:48:28] ang Senate
[1:48:29] Bill
[1:48:29] number
[1:48:29] 1453
[1:48:30] License
[1:48:31] Integrity
[1:48:31] Act
[1:48:32] ito po
[1:48:33] yung
[1:48:33] prohibiting
[1:48:34] unlawful
[1:48:35] lending
[1:48:36] borrowing
[1:48:36] of fraudulent
[1:48:37] use of
[1:48:37] licenses
[1:48:38] permits
[1:48:39] and other
[1:48:40] concessions
[1:48:40] granted
[1:48:41] by the
[1:48:41] state
[1:48:41] yung
[1:48:42] pagpapahiram
[1:48:43] po
[1:48:43] na
[1:48:43] mga
[1:48:43] lisensya
[1:48:44] na
[1:48:44] mga
[1:48:44] contractor
[1:48:45] dahil
[1:48:46] po
[1:48:46] na
[1:48:47] bulgar
[1:48:47] po
[1:48:48] dito
[1:48:48] po
[1:48:48] sa
[1:48:48] blue
[1:48:49] ribbon
[1:48:49] hearing
[1:48:49] isa
[1:48:50] pa
[1:48:50] po
[1:48:50] ang
[1:48:51] Senate
[1:48:51] Bill
[1:48:51] number
[1:48:52] 1373
[1:48:53] Contractors
[1:48:54] License
[1:48:55] Law
[1:48:55] ito
[1:48:56] po
[1:48:56] yung
[1:48:56] bill
[1:48:56] restructuring
[1:48:57] strengthening
[1:48:58] the
[1:48:58] Philippine
[1:48:58] Contractors
[1:48:59] Accreditation
[1:49:00] Board
[1:49:00] introduces
[1:49:01] stricter
[1:49:02] qualifications
[1:49:03] in
[1:49:03] term
[1:49:03] of
[1:49:04] office
[1:49:04] for
[1:49:04] its
[1:49:04] members
[1:49:05] SB
[1:49:12] number
[1:49:12] 1360
[1:49:14] Master Plan
[1:49:14] for
[1:49:15] Infrastructure
[1:49:15] and
[1:49:16] National
[1:49:16] Development
[1:49:17] Act
[1:49:17] 30-year
[1:49:18] comprehensive
[1:49:19] infrastructure
[1:49:20] development
[1:49:21] master
[1:49:21] plan
[1:49:22] which
[1:49:22] shall
[1:49:23] focus
[1:49:23] on
[1:49:23] the
[1:49:23] country's
[1:49:24] long-term
[1:49:24] vision
[1:49:25] goals
[1:49:25] and
[1:49:26] strategy
[1:49:26] of
[1:49:27] infrastructure
[1:49:27] development
[1:49:28] hindi
[1:49:29] po
[1:49:29] yung
[1:49:29] basta
[1:49:30] na
[1:49:30] lamang
[1:49:31] isumiti
[1:49:31] yung
[1:49:31] program
[1:49:32] of
[1:49:32] work
[1:49:32] ng
[1:49:32] isa
[1:49:33] pong
[1:49:33] politiko
[1:49:34] para
[1:49:34] makakuha
[1:49:35] kailangan
[1:49:36] po
[1:49:36] ito
[1:49:36] nakabase
[1:49:37] sa
[1:49:38] master
[1:49:38] plan
[1:49:39] for
[1:49:39] infrastructure
[1:49:40] and
[1:49:40] national
[1:49:41] development
[1:49:41] isa
[1:49:42] pa
[1:49:42] regulation
[1:49:43] of
[1:49:44] foreign
[1:49:44] travel
[1:49:44] for
[1:49:45] government
[1:49:45] officials
[1:49:46] and
[1:49:46] employees
[1:49:47] senate
[1:49:48] bill
[1:49:48] number
[1:49:48] 1362
[1:49:49] this
[1:49:49] bill
[1:49:50] regulates
[1:49:50] foreign
[1:49:51] travels
[1:49:51] and
[1:49:51] government
[1:49:51] officials
[1:49:52] employees
[1:49:52] who
[1:49:52] are
[1:49:53] under
[1:49:53] investigation
[1:49:54] for
[1:49:55] acts
[1:49:55] that
[1:49:55] may
[1:49:55] compromise
[1:49:56] national
[1:49:56] security
[1:49:57] public
[1:49:57] safety
[1:49:58] or
[1:49:58] public
[1:49:59] health
[1:49:59] senate
[1:50:00] bill
[1:50:01] number
[1:50:01] 1364
[1:50:02] amending
[1:50:02] the
[1:50:02] bank
[1:50:03] secrecy
[1:50:04] act
[1:50:04] this measure
[1:50:05] proposes
[1:50:06] to amend
[1:50:06] the law
[1:50:07] by authorizing
[1:50:07] a competent
[1:50:08] court
[1:50:08] or investigating
[1:50:09] body
[1:50:10] to examine
[1:50:10] the bank
[1:50:11] deposits
[1:50:11] of public
[1:50:11] officials
[1:50:12] senate
[1:50:13] bill
[1:50:13] number
[1:50:13] 1365
[1:50:14] amending
[1:50:15] PD
[1:50:15] number
[1:50:16] 1759
[1:50:17] penalizing
[1:50:18] the
[1:50:18] contractors
[1:50:19] and subcontractors
[1:50:20] who violate
[1:50:21] any material
[1:50:22] provision
[1:50:22] of contracts
[1:50:23] involving
[1:50:24] public works
[1:50:25] of government
[1:50:25] officials
[1:50:26] of government
[1:50:27] and public
[1:50:28] officials
[1:50:29] who allow
[1:50:29] such violation
[1:50:30] senate
[1:50:31] bill
[1:50:31] number
[1:50:31] 1358
[1:50:32] budget
[1:50:33] modernization
[1:50:34] act
[1:50:34] of
[1:50:35] September
[1:50:35] 9
[1:50:36] 2025
[1:50:36] ito
[1:50:37] po
[1:50:37] kaya
[1:50:37] po
[1:50:37] natin
[1:50:38] mapapanood
[1:50:38] na
[1:50:39] from now
[1:50:39] on
[1:50:39] ang
[1:50:40] bicameral
[1:50:40] conference
[1:50:41] po
[1:50:41] ng dalawang
[1:50:42] kupulungan
[1:50:43] sa pagsasagawa
[1:50:44] po
[1:50:44] ng ating
[1:50:45] budget
[1:50:45] at marami
[1:50:46] pa pong
[1:50:46] iba
[1:50:46] yun
[1:50:47] lamang
[1:50:48] po
[1:50:48] pinapaalala
[1:50:48] po
[1:50:49] natin
[1:50:49] doon
[1:50:49] sa mga
[1:50:49] nagsasabi
[1:50:50] na wala
[1:50:50] pong
[1:50:50] ginawa
[1:50:51] ang
[1:50:51] blue
[1:50:52] ribbon
[1:50:52] hearings
[1:50:53] po
[1:50:54] nito
[1:50:54] mga
[1:50:54] nagdaang
[1:50:55] panahon
[1:50:56] yan
[1:50:57] po
[1:50:57] ang
[1:50:57] accomplishments
[1:50:58] po
[1:50:58] ng
[1:50:58] 20th
[1:51:02] Congress
[1:51:02] now
[1:51:03] we go
[1:51:04] to the
[1:51:04] presentation
[1:51:05] yes
[1:51:05] we don't
[1:51:08] know it
[1:51:08] Mr.
[1:51:08] Chairman
[1:51:09] yes
[1:51:09] also
[1:51:09] to
[1:51:11] fortify
[1:51:12] what you're
[1:51:12] saying
[1:51:13] Senate
[1:51:13] Bill
[1:51:14] 1835
[1:51:15] is an
[1:51:16] infrastructure
[1:51:16] governance
[1:51:17] act
[1:51:18] reorganizing
[1:51:19] the
[1:51:19] DPWH
[1:51:20] it's
[1:51:22] we
[1:51:22] filed
[1:51:23] the
[1:51:23] bill
[1:51:24] noted
[1:51:25] Senator
[1:51:26] Soto
[1:51:27] let us
[1:51:28] now
[1:51:28] move
[1:51:29] to the
[1:51:29] presentation
[1:51:29] of
[1:51:30] the
[1:51:31] various
[1:51:31] agencies
[1:51:31] we
[1:51:32] start
[1:51:32] to
[1:51:32] the
[1:51:32] National
[1:51:32] Bureau
[1:51:33] of
[1:51:33] Investigation
[1:51:33] Attorney
[1:51:34] Melvin
[1:51:35] Mativag
[1:51:35] go ahead
[1:51:38] please
[1:51:38] agencies
[1:51:40] we
[1:51:41] start
[1:51:41] to
[1:51:41] the
[1:51:41] National
[1:51:41] Bureau
[1:51:42] of
[1:51:42] Investigation
[1:51:42] Attorney
[1:51:44] Melvin
[1:51:44] Mativag
[1:51:45] go ahead
[1:51:47] please
[1:51:47] Meron po
[1:51:49] kaming
[1:51:49] pre-repair
[1:51:50] na
[1:51:50] slides
[1:51:51] baka po
[1:51:51] pwedeng
[1:51:52] maplas
[1:51:54] go ahead
[1:51:56] una po
[1:52:00] sa lahat
[1:52:00] magandang
[1:52:00] umaga po
[1:52:01] si
[1:52:01] timite
[1:52:02] ng
[1:52:03] joint
[1:52:03] epidemate
[1:52:04] ng
[1:52:04] grupo
[1:52:04] na
[1:52:06] sinasabing
[1:52:06] the
[1:52:07] former
[1:52:07] security
[1:52:07] of
[1:52:08] Saldico
[1:52:08] kasama
[1:52:09] si
[1:52:09] Atty.
[1:52:09] Balikod
[1:52:10] na
[1:52:11] naglalaman
[1:52:11] ng
[1:52:12] mga
[1:52:12] allegasyon
[1:52:12] ng
[1:52:12] cast
[1:52:13] deliveries
[1:52:13] ang
[1:52:14] investigation
[1:52:15] ay
[1:52:15] sinagawa
[1:52:15] ng
[1:52:16] NBI
[1:52:16] Task Force
[1:52:17] Marino
[1:52:17] base
[1:52:18] sa
[1:52:18] deputization
[1:52:19] ng
[1:52:19] ombudsman
[1:52:20] at
[1:52:20] sa
[1:52:21] sariling
[1:52:21] kapangyarihan
[1:52:22] ng
[1:52:22] NBI
[1:52:22] So
[1:52:23] tinawag
[1:52:23] po
[1:52:23] namin
[1:52:24] Task Force
[1:52:24] Marino
[1:52:25] ito
[1:52:25] noon
[1:52:25] pero
[1:52:26] pwede
[1:52:26] naman
[1:52:27] na
[1:52:27] po
[1:52:27] namin
[1:52:27] palitan
[1:52:28] siguro
[1:52:28] yung
[1:52:28] pangalan
[1:52:28] ng
[1:52:29] task
[1:52:29] force
[1:52:29] pag
[1:52:29] pamarapatin
[1:52:31] Yes
[1:52:32] please
[1:52:33] do
[1:52:33] that
[1:52:34] kasi
[1:52:34] po
[1:52:34] insult
[1:52:35] sa
[1:52:35] institusyon
[1:52:36] sa
[1:52:36] Philippine
[1:52:37] Marine Corps
[1:52:38] at
[1:52:39] sa
[1:52:39] Armed Forces
[1:52:39] of the
[1:52:40] Philippines
[1:52:40] dahil
[1:52:40] ito
[1:52:41] po
[1:52:41] mga
[1:52:41] ito
[1:52:41] ay
[1:52:42] karamihan
[1:52:43] po
[1:52:43] sa
[1:52:43] kanila
[1:52:43] tulad
[1:52:43] po
[1:52:44] na
[1:52:44] nasabi
[1:52:44] ni
[1:52:44] Senator
[1:52:45] Rafi
[1:52:45] ito
[1:52:46] po
[1:52:46] yung
[1:52:46] mga
[1:52:46] nag-awol
[1:52:47] may
[1:52:47] kaso
[1:52:47] po
[1:52:47] dishonorable
[1:52:48] discharge
[1:52:49] at
[1:52:49] sinabi
[1:52:50] na rin
[1:52:50] po
[1:52:50] ng AFP
[1:52:51] na
[1:52:51] maari
[1:52:51] huwag
[1:52:52] pong
[1:52:52] gamitin
[1:52:53] na
[1:52:53] sila
[1:52:53] po
[1:52:53] ay
[1:52:54] 18
[1:52:55] Marines
[1:52:55] dahil
[1:52:55] hindi po
[1:52:56] sila
[1:52:56] lahat
[1:52:57] Marines
[1:52:57] at
[1:52:57] ang
[1:52:57] iba
[1:52:58] may
[1:52:58] mga
[1:52:59] kaso
[1:52:59] maraming
[1:52:59] salamat
[1:53:00] po
[1:53:00] Palitan
[1:53:01] lang po
[1:53:01] namin
[1:53:01] kung
[1:53:01] hindi
[1:53:02] task force
[1:53:02] bodyguard
[1:53:03] ay baka
[1:53:03] task force
[1:53:04] bellboys
[1:53:04] po
[1:53:04] para
[1:53:05] mas
[1:53:06] appropriate
[1:53:07] po
[1:53:07] siguro
[1:53:07] Next
[1:53:08] slide
[1:53:09] please
[1:53:09] Ang
[1:53:10] ating
[1:53:10] tatalakayin
[1:53:11] ngayon
[1:53:12] ay
[1:53:12] ang
[1:53:12] ebidensyang
[1:53:13] halaga
[1:53:15] ng
[1:53:15] ABD-David
[1:53:15] ng
[1:53:16] tinagro
[1:53:16] ang
[1:53:16] 18
[1:53:17] bodyguards
[1:53:17] sa
[1:53:18] kasong
[1:53:18] ito
[1:53:19] ginamit
[1:53:19] ang
[1:53:19] ABD-David
[1:53:20] bilang
[1:53:20] pangunahing
[1:53:21] ebidensya
[1:53:22] na umano'y
[1:53:23] cast
[1:53:23] deliveries
[1:53:24] Ngunit
[1:53:25] ayon sa
[1:53:25] NBI
[1:53:25] task force
[1:53:26] kailangan
[1:53:27] nating
[1:53:27] suriin
[1:53:28] kung
[1:53:28] sapat
[1:53:28] ba
[1:53:29] ang
[1:53:29] bigat
[1:53:29] ng
[1:53:29] ebidensya
[1:53:30] kung
[1:53:31] may
[1:53:31] issue
[1:53:31] sa
[1:53:32] paggamit
[1:53:32] ng
[1:53:32] titulong
[1:53:33] Marines
[1:53:33] at
[1:53:34] kung
[1:53:34] paano
[1:53:34] na iba
[1:53:35] ang
[1:53:35] independent
[1:53:36] recollection
[1:53:37] sa
[1:53:37] collective
[1:53:37] narrative
[1:53:38] Ang
[1:53:39] layunin
[1:53:40] natin
[1:53:40] ay
[1:53:40] makita
[1:53:41] kung
[1:53:41] ang
[1:53:41] ABD-David
[1:53:42] ay
[1:53:43] talagang
[1:53:44] nakatutulong
[1:53:45] sa
[1:53:45] pagbuo
[1:53:45] ng
[1:53:46] probable
[1:53:46] cause
[1:53:46] kung
[1:53:47] ito
[1:53:47] man
[1:53:48] ay kahinaan
[1:53:48] na dapat
[1:53:49] pagtunan
[1:53:49] sa katunayan
[1:53:50] ang ginamit
[1:53:52] na lang
[1:53:52] namin
[1:53:52] pamantayan
[1:53:53] ay
[1:53:53] probable
[1:53:53] cause
[1:53:54] at
[1:53:55] hindi
[1:53:55] na yung
[1:53:55] memorandum
[1:53:56] circular
[1:53:57] ng DOJ
[1:53:58] na
[1:53:58] nagsasabi
[1:53:59] ng
[1:53:59] there should
[1:54:00] be
[1:54:00] reasonable
[1:54:00] certainty
[1:54:01] of
[1:54:01] conviction
[1:54:02] pag
[1:54:02] mag-aakyat
[1:54:03] tayo
[1:54:03] ng
[1:54:03] kaso
[1:54:03] Next
[1:54:04] slide
[1:54:04] please
[1:54:05] Ang
[1:54:07] tanong
[1:54:07] na dapat
[1:54:07] sagutin
[1:54:08] nakakatulong
[1:54:10] ba
[1:54:10] o nakakasira
[1:54:11] sa
[1:54:11] kredibilidad
[1:54:12] ang label
[1:54:12] na
[1:54:13] ex-Marine
[1:54:13] ginagamit
[1:54:15] ang label
[1:54:15] na ito
[1:54:15] para
[1:54:16] ipakita
[1:54:16] ng
[1:54:17] grupo
[1:54:17] na may
[1:54:18] integridad
[1:54:19] at
[1:54:19] disiplina
[1:54:19] gaya na nga po
[1:54:21] ng sinabi
[1:54:21] ni Senator
[1:54:22] Happy Tool
[1:54:22] kanina
[1:54:23] sa kanyang
[1:54:23] opening
[1:54:24] statement
[1:54:24] sa kasong
[1:54:25] ito
[1:54:26] may mga
[1:54:27] member
[1:54:27] ng grupo
[1:54:27] na hindi
[1:54:28] naman
[1:54:28] tunay
[1:54:28] na
[1:54:29] Marines
[1:54:29] o
[1:54:31] honorably
[1:54:32] discharged
[1:54:33] sa katunayan
[1:54:34] po
[1:54:34] ayon sa
[1:54:34] aming
[1:54:34] pagsusuri
[1:54:35] at
[1:54:36] pag-iimbestiga
[1:54:36] labindalwa
[1:54:37] sa labing
[1:54:38] anim
[1:54:38] na dating
[1:54:39] Marines
[1:54:40] ay
[1:54:40] dishonorably
[1:54:41] discharged
[1:54:41] at may
[1:54:43] mga
[1:54:43] member
[1:54:43] ng
[1:54:43] Army
[1:54:44] at
[1:54:44] Reservice
[1:54:44] lamang
[1:54:45] o
[1:54:45] sibilyan
[1:54:46] kaya
[1:54:46] ang
[1:54:47] ex-Marine
[1:54:47] label
[1:54:48] ay
[1:54:48] otomatik
[1:54:49] o
[1:54:49] nagbibigay
[1:54:49] ng
[1:54:50] kredibilidad
[1:54:50] na sadyang
[1:54:52] ginamit
[1:54:52] upang
[1:54:52] itaas
[1:54:53] ang kalidad
[1:54:54] ng kanilang
[1:54:55] sinasabing
[1:54:56] testimonya
[1:54:56] Next slide
[1:54:58] please
[1:54:58] Ayon sa batas
[1:55:01] ang testimonya
[1:55:02] ay dapat
[1:55:02] nakabatay
[1:55:03] sa personal
[1:55:04] na kaalaman
[1:55:04] kung ang
[1:55:05] testigo
[1:55:06] ay actual
[1:55:07] na nakakita
[1:55:07] ng cash
[1:55:08] delivery
[1:55:08] mas malakas
[1:55:10] ang ebidensya
[1:55:10] Ngunit
[1:55:12] kung narinig
[1:55:13] lang niya
[1:55:13] mula
[1:55:14] sa iba
[1:55:14] ito
[1:55:15] ay
[1:55:16] hearsay
[1:55:16] at mahina
[1:55:17] ang
[1:55:18] probative
[1:55:18] value
[1:55:19] Ito
[1:55:20] po
[1:55:20] isang
[1:55:20] legal
[1:55:20] na
[1:55:21] provision
[1:55:21] testimony
[1:55:21] must
[1:55:22] be
[1:55:22] based
[1:55:23] on
[1:55:23] personal
[1:55:23] knowledge
[1:55:24] hearsay
[1:55:25] as a
[1:55:26] weak
[1:55:26] probative
[1:55:27] value
[1:55:27] Sa report
[1:55:29] na lumabas
[1:55:29] ng aming
[1:55:30] task force
[1:55:31] lumalabas
[1:55:32] na karamihan
[1:55:32] sa payag
[1:55:33] ng
[1:55:33] hearsay
[1:55:34] at
[1:55:34] 10-20%
[1:55:36] lamang
[1:55:36] ang base
[1:55:37] sa personal
[1:55:37] knowledge
[1:55:38] ng mga
[1:55:39] affiance
[1:55:39] Halimbawa
[1:55:40] may testigo
[1:55:41] na nagsabing
[1:55:42] sinabi sa akin
[1:55:43] ni Estrada
[1:55:43] na may cash
[1:55:44] delivery
[1:55:45] hindi ako
[1:55:46] mismo
[1:55:46] ang nakakita
[1:55:47] at hindi
[1:55:48] rin po
[1:55:48] nakita
[1:55:49] kung ano
[1:55:49] ang laman
[1:55:50] ng mga
[1:55:50] maleta
[1:55:51] base
[1:55:52] lamang
[1:55:52] sa sinasabi
[1:55:53] ng kanilang
[1:55:53] mga kasama
[1:55:54] o kung
[1:55:55] ano
[1:55:55] ang itinex
[1:55:56] sa kanilang
[1:55:56] group chat
[1:55:57] Next slide
[1:56:00] please
[1:56:00] Sabi
[1:56:01] na ibit
[1:56:02] 10-20%
[1:56:04] lang
[1:56:04] ang base
[1:56:05] sa personal
[1:56:05] na kaliman
[1:56:06] Halimbawa
[1:56:07] may ilang
[1:56:07] testigo
[1:56:08] na nagsabing
[1:56:08] nakita nila
[1:56:09] ang bag
[1:56:09] pero ang
[1:56:10] karamihan
[1:56:11] ay narinig
[1:56:11] lamang
[1:56:12] mula sa
[1:56:12] ibang
[1:56:12] membro
[1:56:13] ng grupo
[1:56:14] o executive
[1:56:14] assistant
[1:56:15] Ang majority
[1:56:17] ng pahayag
[1:56:17] ay hearsay
[1:56:18] kaya mahina
[1:56:19] ang ebidensya
[1:56:20] Isang halimbawa
[1:56:22] ng pahayag
[1:56:22] ng testigo
[1:56:23] sinabi sa akin
[1:56:24] ni Estrada
[1:56:25] na may cash
[1:56:25] delivery
[1:56:26] hindi ako
[1:56:27] mismo
[1:56:27] nakita
[1:56:28] sa report
[1:56:28] na binanggit
[1:56:29] ng mga
[1:56:30] personal
[1:56:30] knowledge
[1:56:30] ng botafayan
[1:56:31] ay limitado
[1:56:32] ang natitirang
[1:56:34] assertions
[1:56:35] ay hearsay
[1:56:35] na
[1:56:35] Next slide
[1:56:38] please
[1:56:38] Walang dokumento
[1:56:41] Ito na po
[1:56:42] importante po
[1:56:42] ito
[1:56:43] para supportahan
[1:56:44] ng kanilang
[1:56:44] testimonya
[1:56:45] Walang dokumento
[1:56:47] inyong next slide
[1:56:49] pa po
[1:56:49] lack of
[1:56:52] corroboration
[1:56:52] Walang dokumento
[1:56:54] device
[1:56:55] o physical evidence
[1:56:57] na sumusukorta
[1:56:58] sa mga
[1:56:59] aligasyon
[1:57:00] Halimbawa
[1:57:01] walang CCTV
[1:57:03] footages
[1:57:04] resibo
[1:57:05] o cell phone
[1:57:07] records
[1:57:08] wala po
[1:57:09] nagpapatunay
[1:57:11] ng kasili
[1:57:11] ang ebidensya
[1:57:12] ay puro salita
[1:57:13] lamang
[1:57:13] walang kasamang
[1:57:14] physical na ebidensya
[1:57:16] sa report
[1:57:17] kahit may
[1:57:17] sabwina
[1:57:18] walang naipakitang
[1:57:19] original photographs
[1:57:21] receipts
[1:57:22] o bank statement
[1:57:23] ang grupo
[1:57:23] ang absence
[1:57:25] ng documentary evidence
[1:57:26] ay hindi lamang
[1:57:27] kahinaan
[1:57:27] kundi direct failure
[1:57:29] to comply
[1:57:29] with the legal
[1:57:30] directive
[1:57:31] binigyan po namin
[1:57:32] sila
[1:57:32] ng sufficient time
[1:57:34] para magsumite
[1:57:34] ng mga
[1:57:35] corroborative evidence
[1:57:37] testimonya man
[1:57:39] o material evidence
[1:57:40] o physical evidence
[1:57:41] wala po silang
[1:57:42] isinumite
[1:57:43] Next slide please
[1:57:45] Ang laman ng bag
[1:57:48] ay kadalasang
[1:57:49] hinuhulaan lang
[1:57:50] hindi actual
[1:57:51] na nakita
[1:57:52] Halimbawa
[1:57:53] sinabi ng testigo
[1:57:54] na mabigat ang bag
[1:57:55] kaya pinaniniwalaan nilang
[1:57:57] pera ang laman
[1:57:58] pero walang actual
[1:58:00] na pagtingin
[1:58:00] o pagbubukas
[1:58:01] ng bag
[1:58:02] Sa report
[1:58:03] ng 12
[1:58:04] sa 18
[1:58:05] na payans
[1:58:06] hindi nakita
[1:58:07] ang laman ng maleta
[1:58:08] at tumaasa
[1:58:09] lamang sa bigat
[1:58:10] code word
[1:58:11] na basura
[1:58:12] o sinabing
[1:58:13] executive assistant
[1:58:14] ang corpus
[1:58:15] ang elemento
[1:58:16] o ang kasbismo
[1:58:17] ay hindi napatunay
[1:58:19] ng independent evidence
[1:58:20] Kung maalala nyo po
[1:58:21] may mga lumabas
[1:58:22] noon na
[1:58:23] na abinibit
[1:58:25] na noon
[1:58:25] ang inilabas
[1:58:26] sa media
[1:58:26] na sinasabi nila
[1:58:27] kaya na lamang
[1:58:29] pera
[1:58:29] merong mga
[1:58:30] nasa active duty
[1:58:32] pa na PNP
[1:58:33] na binuksan
[1:58:34] at kumuha
[1:58:35] ng pera
[1:58:36] pero nung
[1:58:36] isinumiti
[1:58:37] na po
[1:58:37] sa ombudsman
[1:58:38] yung
[1:58:38] abinibit
[1:58:39] wala na po
[1:58:39] yun
[1:58:40] hindi na po
[1:58:41] binanggit yun
[1:58:42] doon
[1:58:42] sa kanilang
[1:58:43] abinibit
[1:58:43] na isinumiti
[1:58:44] sa
[1:58:44] ombudsman
[1:58:47] ang mangyari
[1:58:47] po rito
[1:58:48] parang
[1:58:49] nagpapalit-palit
[1:58:49] palagi
[1:58:50] ang sinasabi
[1:58:51] doon sa
[1:58:51] abinibit
[1:58:51] hanggang po
[1:58:52] nung huling
[1:58:52] nagkaroon
[1:58:53] ng pagdinig
[1:58:53] po dito
[1:58:54] Next slide
[1:58:56] please
[1:58:56] ang abinibit
[1:58:59] ay hindi dumadaan
[1:59:00] sa cross-examination
[1:59:01] kaya mas mababa
[1:59:04] ang bigat nito
[1:59:04] kumpara sa
[1:59:05] testimonya
[1:59:06] sa korte
[1:59:06] halimbawa
[1:59:08] sa abinibit
[1:59:08] hindi natatanong
[1:59:10] ang testigo
[1:59:11] ng kabilang panig
[1:59:13] sana po
[1:59:14] ito nga yung
[1:59:14] pagkakataon
[1:59:15] na magkaroon
[1:59:16] ng paghaharapan
[1:59:17] kaya hindi
[1:59:18] masusuri
[1:59:18] ang katotohanan
[1:59:19] ng pahayag
[1:59:20] kung may maling
[1:59:21] informasyon
[1:59:22] hindi ito
[1:59:22] agad
[1:59:23] mahihihwatigan
[1:59:25] sa report
[1:59:26] binanggit
[1:59:27] ng abinibit
[1:59:28] ay ex-party
[1:59:28] coordinated
[1:59:29] at hindi
[1:59:30] subject
[1:59:31] sa cross-examination
[1:59:32] ang Supreme Court
[1:59:34] na po mismo
[1:59:34] ang nagsabing
[1:59:35] ang coordinated
[1:59:36] testimony
[1:59:36] ay may
[1:59:37] diminish weight
[1:59:38] Next slide
[1:59:40] please
[1:59:41] May mga
[1:59:43] informasyon
[1:59:43] na dumaan
[1:59:44] pa sa dalawa
[1:59:45] o higit pang tao
[1:59:46] bago makarating
[1:59:48] sa abinibit
[1:59:49] Halimbawa
[1:59:50] ang isang
[1:59:51] miyembro
[1:59:51] ay naniniglang
[1:59:52] mula sa ibang
[1:59:53] miyembro
[1:59:54] na may
[1:59:54] cast delivery
[1:59:55] tapos
[1:59:56] isasama
[1:59:57] sa abinibit
[1:59:58] lalong humihina
[1:59:59] ang kredibilidad
[2:00:00] ng ganitong
[2:00:00] payag
[2:00:01] dahil
[2:00:02] hindi ito
[2:00:04] direktang
[2:00:04] karanasan
[2:00:05] sa report
[2:00:06] maraming
[2:00:07] assertion
[2:00:08] ang galing
[2:00:08] sa group
[2:00:09] Viber Chats
[2:00:09] o sa
[2:00:10] Executive Assistant
[2:00:11] hindi sa
[2:00:12] sariling
[2:00:13] karanasan
[2:00:13] ng
[2:00:13] appayant
[2:00:14] ang hearsay
[2:00:16] ay
[2:00:16] inadvisable
[2:00:17] at walang
[2:00:20] independent
[2:00:21] probative
[2:00:21] way
[2:00:22] Double
[2:00:23] hearsay
[2:00:24] pa nga po
[2:00:24] narinig
[2:00:25] sa ganito
[2:00:26] pinasa
[2:00:26] sa kanila
[2:00:27] at yung
[2:00:28] grupo po
[2:00:30] doon sa
[2:00:31] Viber Chats
[2:00:32] nila
[2:00:32] hindi naalam
[2:00:32] kung sino
[2:00:33] nagpadala
[2:00:33] at nung
[2:00:34] hinahanap
[2:00:35] po namin
[2:00:35] yung
[2:00:36] mga
[2:00:37] Viber Chats
[2:00:37] na ito
[2:00:38] ang sinasabi
[2:00:39] wala na yung
[2:00:39] telepono
[2:00:40] kaya
[2:00:41] maaaring
[2:00:41] yung binabanggit
[2:00:42] po noon
[2:00:42] na sinabing
[2:00:43] papalitan
[2:00:43] yung telepono
[2:00:44] kasama na
[2:00:45] sa naratibo
[2:00:45] ang kanilang binubuo
[2:00:47] next slide
[2:00:48] please
[2:00:48] attorney
[2:00:49] matibag
[2:00:50] before you
[2:00:50] continue
[2:00:51] we just
[2:00:51] like to
[2:00:52] inform
[2:00:52] everyone
[2:00:53] na yung
[2:00:54] pong
[2:00:54] labing
[2:00:55] walong
[2:00:55] ex-bodyguides
[2:00:56] narito
[2:00:57] po
[2:00:57] sa
[2:00:58] building
[2:00:59] na ito
[2:01:00] nasa
[2:01:00] tanggapan
[2:01:01] po
[2:01:01] ni
[2:01:02] senator
[2:01:02] robin
[2:01:03] padilla
[2:01:04] kasama
[2:01:04] po si
[2:01:05] attorney
[2:01:05] baligod
[2:01:06] despite
[2:01:07] po
[2:01:07] yung
[2:01:07] ating
[2:01:08] invitasyon
[2:01:09] sa kanila
[2:01:09] na dumalo
[2:01:10] sa hearing
[2:01:10] mas
[2:01:11] minabuti
[2:01:11] po nilang
[2:01:12] magtungo
[2:01:12] sa opisina
[2:01:13] ni senator
[2:01:13] robin
[2:01:14] padilla
[2:01:14] at
[2:01:15] doon po
[2:01:16] ika nga
[2:01:16] magmonitor
[2:01:17] at
[2:01:17] maglive
[2:01:18] din
[2:01:18] yung
[2:01:19] labing
[2:01:19] walong
[2:01:20] bodyguard
[2:01:23] at
[2:01:23] magpa
[2:01:24] preskon
[2:01:24] yun
[2:01:25] lamang po
[2:01:25] i just
[2:01:26] want to
[2:01:26] let
[2:01:27] everybody
[2:01:27] know
[2:01:28] that
[2:01:28] they're
[2:01:28] here
[2:01:28] in
[2:01:29] the
[2:01:29] building
[2:01:29] yung
[2:01:29] labing
[2:01:30] walo
[2:01:30] po
[2:01:30] na
[2:01:30] yun
[2:01:30] kasama
[2:01:31] si
[2:01:31] attorney
[2:01:31] baligod
[2:01:32] pero
[2:01:32] ayaw
[2:01:33] po
[2:01:33] nilang
[2:01:33] bumabali
[2:01:34] dito
[2:01:35] sa
[2:01:35] ating
[2:01:35] hearing
[2:01:36] at
[2:01:37] nandoon
[2:01:37] po
[2:01:37] sila
[2:01:37] sa
[2:01:38] tanggapan
[2:01:38] ni
[2:01:38] senator
[2:01:38] robin
[2:01:39] padilla
[2:01:39] continue
[2:01:40] attorney
[2:01:41] yes
[2:01:42] go ahead
[2:01:43] Mr.
[2:01:44] Chair
[2:01:45] for the
[2:01:45] record
[2:01:46] lang po
[2:01:46] bagamat
[2:01:47] ito pong
[2:01:49] dinadaos
[2:01:50] natin
[2:01:50] ngayon
[2:01:50] sa pamumuno
[2:01:52] ninyo
[2:01:52] na blue
[2:01:52] ribbon
[2:01:53] committee
[2:01:53] ay
[2:01:53] meeting
[2:01:54] pero
[2:01:55] inaasahan
[2:01:56] ko rin
[2:01:57] po
[2:01:57] na
[2:01:57] iimbitahan
[2:01:58] ng
[2:01:59] chair
[2:01:59] itong
[2:02:00] 18x
[2:02:01] bodyguards
[2:02:02] sa
[2:02:04] hearing
[2:02:04] kapag
[2:02:05] fully
[2:02:05] constituted
[2:02:06] na yung
[2:02:06] committee
[2:02:07] and
[2:02:08] dapat
[2:02:08] po
[2:02:08] hindi
[2:02:09] nila
[2:02:10] baliwalain
[2:02:11] yung
[2:02:11] impitasyon
[2:02:11] ng
[2:02:11] committee
[2:02:12] dahil
[2:02:13] pag
[2:02:14] ginawa
[2:02:14] pa nila
[2:02:15] po
[2:02:15] iyon
[2:02:15] magiging
[2:02:16] subject
[2:02:16] po
[2:02:17] sila
[2:02:17] sa
[2:02:17] subpina
[2:02:18] and
[2:02:19] show
[2:02:19] cause
[2:02:19] order
[2:02:20] at
[2:02:20] higit
[2:02:21] pa
[2:02:21] mula
[2:02:21] sa
[2:02:22] committee
[2:02:22] Salamat
[2:02:23] po
[2:02:23] Mr.
[2:02:23] Chair
[2:02:24] Noted
[2:02:24] po
[2:02:24] Senator
[2:02:25] Tiberos
[2:02:26] gagawin
[2:02:26] po
[2:02:26] natin
[2:02:27] yan
[2:02:27] pero
[2:02:27] for
[2:02:27] now
[2:02:28] kasi
[2:02:28] ang
[2:02:28] ginawa
[2:02:28] po
[2:02:28] natin
[2:02:29] ay
[2:02:30] anibitahan
[2:02:30] lamang
[2:02:30] natin
[2:02:31] dahil
[2:02:31] ito
[2:02:31] po
[2:02:31] isang
[2:02:32] meeting
[2:02:33] lamang
[2:02:33] organizational
[2:02:35] meeting
[2:02:36] po
[2:02:36] ng
[2:02:36] Blue
[2:02:36] Ribbon
[2:02:36] committee
[2:02:37] kaya po
[2:02:38] hindi
[2:02:38] po
[2:02:38] natin
[2:02:38] mapapwersa
[2:02:39] yung
[2:02:39] mga
[2:02:39] yun
[2:02:40] pero
[2:02:40] inibitahan
[2:02:41] po
[2:02:41] rin
[2:02:41] natin
[2:02:41] gayon
[2:02:41] pa
[2:02:42] man
[2:02:42] noong
[2:02:42] miyerkules
[2:02:43] para
[2:02:44] walang
[2:02:44] masabi
[2:02:45] po
[2:02:45] yung
[2:02:45] kabilang
[2:02:45] grupo
[2:02:46] yung
[2:02:46] minority
[2:02:47] block
[2:02:47] na
[2:02:48] iniiwas
[2:02:49] po
[2:02:49] natin
[2:02:50] at
[2:02:50] ayaw
[2:02:50] natin
[2:02:50] sila
[2:02:50] imbitahan
[2:02:51] so
[2:02:51] for
[2:02:51] the
[2:02:51] record
[2:02:52] po
[2:02:52] nabanggit
[2:02:52] po
[2:02:52] kanina
[2:02:53] ng
[2:02:53] secretary
[2:02:54] at
[2:02:54] inibitahan
[2:02:55] po
[2:02:55] ang
[2:02:55] 18
[2:02:55] walo
[2:02:55] na
[2:02:56] ito
[2:02:56] kasama
[2:02:56] po
[2:02:56] si
[2:02:56] attorney
[2:02:57] baligod
[2:02:58] subalit
[2:02:59] po
[2:02:59] hindi
[2:03:00] po
[2:03:00] sila
[2:03:01] at
[2:03:01] nagpahayag
[2:03:02] na po
[2:03:02] sila
[2:03:03] kanina
[2:03:03] lamang
[2:03:04] hindi
[2:03:04] po
[2:03:04] sila
[2:03:04] bawaba
[2:03:05] rito
[2:03:05] sila
[2:03:06] po
[2:03:06] ay
[2:03:06] bisita
[2:03:08] ni
[2:03:08] senator
[2:03:09] robin
[2:03:09] padilla
[2:03:09] just
[2:03:12] for
[2:03:13] the
[2:03:13] record
[2:03:13] baka
[2:03:14] kasi
[2:03:15] hindi
[2:03:15] naintindihan
[2:03:15] masyado
[2:03:16] ng
[2:03:16] ating
[2:03:16] mga
[2:03:17] mga
[2:03:19] kababayan
[2:03:19] kaya
[2:03:20] ito
[2:03:20] ay
[2:03:21] hindi
[2:03:21] hearing
[2:03:22] at
[2:03:23] ito
[2:03:23] ay
[2:03:23] committee
[2:03:25] meeting
[2:03:26] consultative
[2:03:27] meeting
[2:03:28] ay
[2:03:28] dahil
[2:03:28] kinikilala
[2:03:29] natin
[2:03:30] na
[2:03:31] hindi
[2:03:31] pa
[2:03:31] nahahalal
[2:03:32] ang
[2:03:33] lahat
[2:03:34] ng
[2:03:34] membro
[2:03:35] ng
[2:03:36] committee
[2:03:36] on
[2:03:37] public
[2:03:37] accountability
[2:03:38] at
[2:03:39] dahil
[2:03:39] hindi
[2:03:39] pa
[2:03:40] nahahalal
[2:03:40] lahat
[2:03:41] ng
[2:03:41] membro
[2:03:41] hindi
[2:03:42] pa
[2:03:43] constituted
[2:03:44] ang
[2:03:44] committee
[2:03:44] although
[2:03:45] the
[2:03:46] chairperson
[2:03:47] has
[2:03:47] been
[2:03:48] elected
[2:03:49] and
[2:03:49] the
[2:03:49] chairperson
[2:03:50] as
[2:03:51] legislative
[2:03:52] practice
[2:03:52] will
[2:03:54] reveal
[2:03:54] has
[2:03:55] from
[2:03:55] time
[2:03:56] to
[2:03:56] time
[2:03:56] been
[2:03:57] allowed
[2:03:57] by
[2:03:58] practice
[2:03:59] to
[2:03:59] hold
[2:03:59] consultative
[2:04:00] meetings
[2:04:01] even
[2:04:01] if
[2:04:02] there
[2:04:03] is
[2:04:03] no
[2:04:03] quorum
[2:04:03] even
[2:04:04] if
[2:04:04] the
[2:04:05] committee
[2:04:05] has
[2:04:05] not
[2:04:06] been
[2:04:06] fully
[2:04:06] constituted
[2:04:07] and
[2:04:09] also
[2:04:09] yes
[2:04:10] that is
[2:04:10] correct
[2:04:11] is
[2:04:11] empowered
[2:04:11] to
[2:04:12] designate
[2:04:13] a
[2:04:13] vice
[2:04:13] chairman
[2:04:13] so
[2:04:14] in
[2:04:14] the
[2:04:14] meantime
[2:04:14] because
[2:04:15] we
[2:04:16] are
[2:04:16] have
[2:04:17] not
[2:04:17] out
[2:04:18] of
[2:04:18] respect
[2:04:19] for
[2:04:19] our
[2:04:19] colleagues
[2:04:20] in
[2:04:20] the
[2:04:20] minority
[2:04:21] this
[2:04:32] is
[2:04:32] in
[2:04:32] contrast
[2:04:33] to
[2:04:33] the
[2:04:34] previous
[2:04:34] bogus
[2:04:37] hearing
[2:04:37] last
[2:04:38] Thursday
[2:04:39] wherein
[2:04:40] the
[2:04:40] blue
[2:04:41] ribbon
[2:04:41] committee
[2:04:41] precisely
[2:04:42] had
[2:04:42] been
[2:04:43] declared
[2:04:44] vacant
[2:04:45] and
[2:04:46] even
[2:04:46] before
[2:04:47] we
[2:04:47] removed
[2:04:48] the
[2:04:48] senate
[2:04:48] president
[2:04:49] former
[2:04:50] senate
[2:04:50] president
[2:04:50] they
[2:04:52] already
[2:04:52] sent out
[2:04:55] notices
[2:04:55] for that
[2:04:56] June
[2:04:56] 4
[2:04:57] hearing
[2:04:57] which
[2:04:59] again
[2:04:59] is
[2:05:00] an
[2:05:00] indication
[2:05:01] of
[2:05:01] their
[2:05:01] disregard
[2:05:02] for
[2:05:02] our
[2:05:03] rules
[2:05:03] in
[2:05:04] the
[2:05:05] senate
[2:05:05] kaya
[2:05:05] just
[2:05:06] for
[2:05:06] the
[2:05:07] record
[2:05:07] mr.
[2:05:08] chairperson
[2:05:09] thank
[2:05:10] you
[2:05:10] for
[2:05:10] that
[2:05:10] clarification
[2:05:11] go
[2:05:11] ahead
[2:05:12] in fact
[2:05:18] dun
[2:05:18] sa
[2:05:19] bogus
[2:05:19] hearing
[2:05:19] nagpakita
[2:05:21] at
[2:05:21] nagsalita
[2:05:22] yung
[2:05:22] 18x
[2:05:23] bodyguards
[2:05:24] at
[2:05:24] saka
[2:05:24] si
[2:05:24] attorney
[2:05:25] baligod
[2:05:26] so
[2:05:26] although
[2:05:27] of course
[2:05:27] I submit
[2:05:28] to what
[2:05:28] the
[2:05:28] chair
[2:05:29] has
[2:05:29] said
[2:05:29] na
[2:05:29] di
[2:05:30] naman
[2:05:30] sila
[2:05:30] mapipilit
[2:05:31] ang
[2:05:31] dumalo
[2:05:32] dito
[2:05:32] sa
[2:05:33] ating
[2:05:33] meeting
[2:05:33] bilang
[2:05:34] mga
[2:05:34] guests
[2:05:34] I
[2:05:35] think
[2:05:35] loss
[2:05:36] po
[2:05:36] sa
[2:05:36] kanila
[2:05:36] na
[2:05:37] hindi
[2:05:37] sila
[2:05:38] humarap
[2:05:38] sa
[2:05:38] committee
[2:05:39] hearing
[2:05:39] na
[2:05:39] ito
[2:05:40] para
[2:05:40] matanong
[2:05:41] din
[2:05:41] natin
[2:05:42] ibang
[2:05:43] mga
[2:05:43] senador
[2:05:44] and
[2:05:44] yung
[2:05:44] mga
[2:05:44] miyembro
[2:05:45] magiging
[2:05:46] miyembro
[2:05:46] ng
[2:05:47] committee
[2:05:48] once
[2:05:48] constituted
[2:05:49] dahil
[2:05:50] naghanda
[2:05:50] rin
[2:05:50] po tayo
[2:05:51] ng
[2:05:51] mga
[2:05:51] tanong
[2:05:51] sa
[2:05:52] kanila
[2:05:52] just
[2:05:53] for
[2:05:53] the
[2:05:53] record
[2:05:53] mr.
[2:05:54] chair
[2:05:54] just
[2:05:55] to
[2:05:55] emphasize
[2:05:56] na
[2:05:56] yung
[2:05:57] june
[2:05:57] 3
[2:05:57] klarong
[2:05:58] klaro
[2:06:00] na
[2:06:00] noong
[2:06:01] din
[2:06:01] declare
[2:06:01] all
[2:06:02] seats
[2:06:02] vacant
[2:06:03] ang
[2:06:04] inelect
[2:06:04] natin
[2:06:05] as
[2:06:05] chairman
[2:06:06] of the
[2:06:06] blue
[2:06:06] ribbon
[2:06:06] committee
[2:06:09] center
[2:06:09] erwin
[2:06:10] tool
[2:06:10] so
[2:06:11] siya
[2:06:11] lang
[2:06:12] may
[2:06:12] karapatan
[2:06:12] na
[2:06:13] tumawag
[2:06:13] ng
[2:06:13] ganitong
[2:06:14] consultative
[2:06:14] meeting
[2:06:15] at
[2:06:16] siya
[2:06:16] lang
[2:06:16] may
[2:06:16] karapatan
[2:06:17] para
[2:06:17] mag
[2:06:18] issue
[2:06:18] ng
[2:06:18] invitations
[2:06:19] through
[2:06:19] the
[2:06:20] blue
[2:06:21] ribbon
[2:06:21] secretariat
[2:06:22] so
[2:06:22] let me
[2:06:22] just
[2:06:22] put
[2:06:23] that
[2:06:23] on
[2:06:23] record
[2:06:23] thank
[2:06:25] you
[2:06:25] uh
[2:06:26] uh
[2:06:27] sir
[2:06:27] uh
[2:06:28] president
[2:06:31] uh
[2:06:31] quid
[2:06:32] attorney
[2:06:33] matibag
[2:06:34] may
[2:06:35] approach
[2:06:35] po
[2:06:35] may
[2:06:36] there's
[2:06:37] an
[2:06:37] important
[2:06:38] thing
[2:06:38] that
[2:06:38] i
[2:06:38] want
[2:06:38] to
[2:06:39] relay
[2:06:39] po
[2:06:39] sa
[2:06:39] inyo
[2:06:40] po
[2:06:40] pwede
[2:06:40] po
[2:06:40] lumapit
[2:06:41] dyan
[2:06:41] because
[2:06:42] i
[2:06:42] cannot
[2:06:42] say
[2:06:42] one
[2:06:43] minute
[2:06:43] suspension
[2:06:44] there's
[2:06:48] an
[2:06:48] important
[2:06:49] thing
[2:06:49] that
[2:06:49] i
[2:06:49] want
[2:06:49] to
[2:06:50] relay
[2:06:50] po
[2:06:50] pwede
[2:06:51] po
[2:06:51] lumapit
[2:06:52] dyan
[2:06:53] because
[2:06:53] i
[2:06:53] cannot
[2:06:53] say
[2:06:53] one
[2:06:54] minute
[2:06:54] suspension
[2:06:55] meeting
[2:09:39] resume
[2:09:40] attorney
[2:09:40] matibag
[2:09:41] please
[2:09:41] continue
[2:09:41] with
[2:09:42] your
[2:09:42] presentation
[2:09:42] thank
[2:09:43] you
[2:09:43] your
[2:09:43] honor
[2:09:44] next
[2:09:57] next slide
[2:10:13] please
[2:10:13] public
[2:10:16] representation
[2:10:18] Balik po tayo rin sa pag-label nila ng 18 Marines.
[2:10:22] Ipinakilala ang grupo bilang 18 Marines na parang may dagdag na integridad.
[2:10:28] Halimbawa, ginamit ang label na ito sa media para palakasin ang kredibilidad ng grupo
[2:10:34] kahit hindi naman miyembro ay tunay ng Marines.
[2:10:37] Sa report, lumabas na may Army Reservies at Sibilian at silama sa grupo
[2:10:43] ang popular narrative na Marine Honor Code ay hindi tugma sa aktual na record.
[2:10:48] Katunayan, nakita na natin ang EFP at ang Marines, naglabas na ng pahayag
[2:10:53] na huwag silang tawaging 18 Marines.
[2:10:56] At pag hindi po Honorary Discharge, hindi po makukonsidera na sila ay napabilang sa Marine Corps.
[2:11:03] Next slide please.
[2:11:07] Next slide.
[2:11:07] Actual composition.
[2:11:12] Sa totoo lang, ilan lang ang Honorary Retired.
[2:11:15] Ang iba ay Discharge o hindi talaga Marines.
[2:11:18] Halimbawa, sa breakdown ng NBI, tatlo lang ang Honorary Retired.
[2:11:23] Labing dalawa ang dishonorably discharged at may RV Reservies at Sibilian.
[2:11:29] Karamihan pa po rito ay mayroong mga naging kaso at mayroong isa na mayroong pang patuloy na dinidinig na kaso.
[2:11:37] Ang popular narrative na Marine Honor Code ay hindi tugma sa aktual na record.
[2:11:42] Ang Philippine Marine Corps mismo ang nagsabing karamihan ay dishonorably discharged at maikli lamang ang servisyo.
[2:11:48] Mayroon po rito, sampung buwan lang na nagservisyo sa Marine, nag-awol na po.
[2:11:55] At ang karagdagan po rito, para tawagin sila na Marines, matagal na po yung ibang wala sa Marine Service bago po na-recruit ng grupo po ni dating Congressman Saldico.
[2:12:08] Next slide please.
[2:12:12] Effect of credibility.
[2:12:13] Nagkakaroon ng maling akala na lahat ay may mataas na integridad dahil sa titulo, kahit hindi naman totoo.
[2:12:21] Halimbawa, ang publiko ay naniniwala na ang grupo ay may marine values.
[2:12:25] Pero may mga miyembro na may record ng misconduct o hindi naman tunay na Marines.
[2:12:30] Sa report mismo ng Philippine Marine Corps, ang nasabing karamihan ay dishonorably discharged at maikli lamang ang servisyo.
[2:12:36] Ang invocation ng Marine Honor ay walang institutional basis sa grupo na ito.
[2:12:43] Next slide please.
[2:12:46] Legal impact of title Marines.
[2:12:48] Sa korte, ebidensya ang malaga, hindi ang label o titulo.
[2:12:53] Kahit pa ex-Marine ang tawag kung walang sapat na ebidensya, hindi ito magpapalakas ng kaso.
[2:13:00] Courts rely on evidence, not on labels.
[2:13:03] Sa report, binanggit na ang invocation ng Marine Honor ay walang institutional basis sa grupo.
[2:13:09] Ang Supreme Court ay nagsabi ng probative value ay nakasalalay sa personal knowledge, hindi sa titulo o sa label.
[2:13:18] Next slide please.
[2:13:21] Independent recollection.
[2:13:24] Ang tunay na malakas na ebidensya ay galing sa sariling karanasan ng testigo.
[2:13:30] Halimbawa, kung ang testigo ay actual na nakakita at nakaranas ng kas delivery, mas malakas ang pahayat.
[2:13:36] Sa report, may ilang apayant na nagsabing nakita nila ang kas, pero karimian ay umasa lamang sa kwento ng iba.
[2:13:44] Ang logistics ng operation ay corroborated, pero ang core allegation na kas ay laman ng maleta ay madalas na hearsay lamang.
[2:13:54] Next slide please.
[2:14:03] Pinagsama-sama ang pahayag ng grupo sa isang abidibit.
[2:14:05] Halimbawa, may mga miyembro na hindi alam ang buong kwento, pero isinama ang kanilang pahayag sa collective narrative.
[2:14:13] Sa report mismo ng apayant na nasabing hinalo-halo ang abidibit at binoo ng kansel na si Atty. Baligod,
[2:14:21] ang collective execution ay hindi nagko-convert ng hearsay sa personal knowledge.
[2:14:27] Next slide please.
[2:14:28] May palatandaan ng koordinasyon ng group discussions, shared preparation.
[2:14:40] Halimbawa, bago gumawa ng abidibit, nagkaroon ng group meeting para pag-usapan ng mga sasabihin.
[2:14:46] Sa report na binanggit na ang abidibit ay produkto ng collective briefing, common housing at cancel-assembled content,
[2:14:54] ang apayant ay house sa cancel unit na may real-time coaching interview.
[2:14:58] Anong ibig sabihin po nito, mula meron pong testimonya doon na November pa lang magkakasama na sila.
[2:15:06] At inilabas po yung testimonya, February.
[2:15:09] Ang ibig sabihin po nito, bumuo sila ng naratibo.
[2:15:13] So, ang nangyari po kasi rito, yung si Buduan, siya ang nilapitan ni Atty. Baligod.
[2:15:20] Please take note na hindi po sila ang lumapit kay Atty. Baligod,
[2:15:23] kundi si Atty. Baligod lumapit kay Buduan.
[2:15:26] At si Buduan ang nag-recruit ng mga sasama po rito.
[2:15:30] Ano pong palatandaan itong in-coordinated, sinasabi naman nila lahat sila nang galing doon sa White Plains.
[2:15:37] Doon po sila, magkakasama po sila.
[2:15:40] Tapos, inamin din, may umamin din na may nagbibigay ng pera, parang allowance, si Atty. Baligod.
[2:15:47] Kung tutuusin nga po sa aming mga abugado,
[2:15:49] ito po ay violation ng Code of Professional Responsibility and Accountability.
[2:15:54] Sapagkat bilang isang abugado ka, hindi ka maaaring dapat magbigay ng financial consideration.
[2:16:00] Papasok po ito sa tinatawag na champertubus contract na maaaring meron kang inaasahang kapalit sa pagtulong mo sa iyong abugado.
[2:16:07] Magkaiba po ito doon sa tinatawag na contingent basis na agreement ng pagiging abugado.
[2:16:15] Sinabidad po mismo, halimbawa, specific example, that Baligod suggested to Buduan that 18 should disturb in Baligod's residence.
[2:16:23] So in-offer po talaga yung tirahan. Meron po talagang pag-aalok na pumunta ro.
[2:16:30] At si Buduan po is one of those who are dishonorably discharged.
[2:16:34] Ang kaso po niya rito, corruption eh, nito si Buduan.
[2:16:38] Siya po ay isang kasama doon sa volunteer doon sa Golan, yung peacekeeping po na pinadala natin.
[2:16:43] So meron po kaming halimbawa lang po yun, ang NBI po ay may record, service record ng lahat po ng labing walong ito.
[2:16:51] Next slide please.
[2:16:54] Legal Implication.
[2:16:55] Ayon sa batas, kapag coordinated ang testimonya, bumababa ang probative value nito.
[2:17:02] Halimbawa, kung pare-pareho ang wording ng abinibit, maaaring indikasyon ng coaching o collusion.
[2:17:08] Coordinated testimony reduces probative value.
[2:17:12] Sa report na binanggit ng Supreme Court na doctrine ng coordinated testimony ay may diminished weight.
[2:17:20] Ang collective narrative ay hindi-reliable marker ng independent testimonial reliability.
[2:17:26] When multiple witnesses function like synchronized recorders, the testimony fails the test of personal knowledge and perception required under Rule 130, Section 37 of the Rules of Court.
[2:17:42] Because the court cannot determine where the real observation ends and the script begins.
[2:17:48] The probative value of the synchronized statements are discarded entirely.
[2:17:52] Ito po ay decided case na ng Supreme Court sa People v. Centeno.
[2:17:57] The Supreme Court explicitly stated that perfect symmetry among testimony does not inspire belief.
[2:18:06] Instead, it breeds suspicion that the testimonies were rehearsed or concocted.
[2:18:14] Next slide please.
[2:18:17] Key distinction between independent and collective.
[2:18:20] Attorney Matibag, I'm sorry for interrupting. How many more minutes do we have?
[2:18:25] About to wrap up three slides na lang po.
[2:18:28] Okay, thank you.
[2:18:30] Independent, malakas na ebidensya.
[2:18:33] Collective, mahina.
[2:18:34] Ang independent recollection ay personal na karanasan.
[2:18:38] Samantalang ang collective narrative ay pinaghalo-halong kwento ng grupo.
[2:18:43] Sa report, lumalabas ng logistics ng operation ay corroborated.
[2:18:48] Pero ang core allegation na kas ang laman ng maleta ay madalas hearsay lamang.
[2:18:53] Next slide please.
[2:18:58] Integrated findings, weak evidence, misleading title, non-independent testimony.
[2:19:03] Tatlong issue.
[2:19:04] Mahina ang ebidensya.
[2:19:07] Misleading ang title at hindi independent ang testimony.
[2:19:10] Ang opinion ay hindi sapat.
[2:19:12] Ang ex-Marine ay misleading at ang testimony ay coordinated.
[2:19:16] Sa report, binanggit na walang credible witness na makapapatunay ng buong allegation at photographic evidence ay compromise.
[2:19:27] Ang political context, ang kaso na nagpapakita na coordinated ang operation, hindi independent whistleblowing.
[2:19:34] Ano pong ibig sabihin nito?
[2:19:36] Dahil kinu-quote, depende po doon sa political perception or political belief ng tao.
[2:19:43] Ang halimbawa na nga po rito, doon sa mga unang lumabas na abidibit, binabanggit po yung dalawang senador.
[2:19:49] Pero nung nag-iba na yung alyansa nung senador, iba na po yung abidibit at may mga dadagdag pa po na personalidad.
[2:19:56] Last slide na po.
[2:20:00] Ano po ang konklusyon dito po sa aming ginawang pag-iimbestiga?
[2:20:03] Hindi napatunayan ang mga allegation base sa ebidensyang iniharap.
[2:20:08] Walang sapat na personal knowledge, puro hearsay, walang corroboration at coordinated ang narrative.
[2:20:14] Ang abidibit ay hindi sapat na basihan para mag-pile ng kaso.
[2:20:19] Sa report, binanggit na ang joint abidibit ay hindi self-sufficient basis for probable cause.
[2:20:25] At bawat allegation ay dapat ay independent, competent, at authenticated evidence.
[2:20:31] Ang tanong ay hindi kung possible ang pangyari, kundi napatunayan sila batay sa ebidensya.
[2:20:38] At ang kasong ito, hindi nila napatunayan.
[2:20:41] Maraming salamat po and we can submit the full report to the committee.
[2:20:45] Thank you.
[2:20:47] Yes, and just say my administrative matter to the director.
[2:20:51] The report, please, and the attachments, including the affidavits.
[2:20:56] Thank you.
[2:20:58] Yes, and just say my administrative matter to the directors, including the affidavits of the six or five.
[2:21:09] Five po yung pumirma po.
[2:21:11] Yes.
[2:21:11] Pero we're able to get everyone na recorded po ito.
[2:21:15] Yes, so the report plus the attachments so that we have a full appreciation of your documents.
[2:21:21] Thank you.
[2:21:22] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[2:21:23] Thank you, Attorney.
[2:21:25] Senator Pangilinan.
[2:21:27] Doon po sa ibang guest po natin, do you have any presentations or opening statement?
[2:21:32] Please make it brief.
[2:21:35] Our invited guests.
[2:21:37] The Prosecutor General, Prosecutor General Padulion.
[2:21:41] Good morning, Mr. Chair.
[2:21:44] Good morning, Honorable Senators and members of the committee.
[2:21:47] We do not have a presentation, Mr. Chair, although we have a report on the status of the cases that have been filed and investigated by the Department of Justice.
[2:21:55] As of June 5, 2026, there were 14 cases which were endorsed to the Department of Justice for preliminary investigation.
[2:22:03] 13 of these have been endorsed already or have been resolved and have been endorsed to the Office of the Ombudsman for approval.
[2:22:10] Some of them have already been approved and, in fact, some of the cases have already been filed before the appropriate courts.
[2:22:16] The remaining case before the Department of Justice is one involving former Senator Bong Revilla, Roberto Bernardo, Gerard Upelencia, Henry Alcantara, Corona, Manny Bolosan, Ruel Umali, Arturo Gonzalez for violation of Republic Act 3019 or the Anti-Graft and Corrupt Practices Act, plunder under Republic Act 7080 and Article 210 of the Revised Penal Code.
[2:22:46] This case is now just being edited before it will be subjected for review and then for final approval.
[2:22:53] Apart from these cases, Mr. Chair, there are also Bureau of Internal Revenue cases that were filed against several personalities.
[2:23:01] There were 20 BIR cases filed with the Department of Justice from 2025 to 2026.
[2:23:07] Of these cases, seven have already been filed in the corresponding information filed in court.
[2:23:14] Twelve have been dismissed and one is submitted for resolution.
[2:23:18] The remaining case is the one which involves Mark Allen Villamore Arevalo of Wawa Builders for violation of Section 254 and 255 of the National Internal Revenue Code of 1997.
[2:23:32] Also, we would like to report, Mr. Chair, that as of today, covered by the Witness Protection Program of the Department of Justice are seven personalities, namely Usec Roberto Bernardo, Engineer Henry Alcantara, Engineer Gerard Upelencia, Sally Santos, Monica Santos, Virgil Nino Garcia, and Francisco de la Fuente Jr.
[2:23:59] And lastly, we would like to report, Mr. Chair, that as of today, the amount of people's money recovered and have been turned over to the land bank totals 841,381,500 pesos.
[2:24:19] That's all for the Department of Justice, Mr. Chair. Thank you.
[2:24:22] Thank you, Prosecutor General Fadulian. Just one quick question.
[2:24:26] Ito pong pagka-file po ninyo ng mga kaso. Where did this come from? Is this the result of the Blue Ribbon hearing previous weeks and months?
[2:24:33] Well, part of it, sir, were as a result of the investigation or the hearings before the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee, which were followed up by the Department and by the National Bureau of Investigation, as a consequence of which cases were filed with the Department.
[2:24:51] And the same were the ones subjected to preliminary investigation, sir.
[2:24:55] Thank you, Prosecutor General Fadulian. We now move to the Office of the Ombudsman, Attorney Ravello or Attorney Batu. Do you have any presentation or opening statement?
[2:25:09] Magandang umaga po sa lahat. Good morning, Your Honor. Good morning, Honorable Chairperson.
[2:25:15] Wala po kami ng presentation, but we also have a report. Without going into details po, us doing so might jeopardize our ongoing investigations.
[2:25:26] But I'm going to report on the complaints received by our office from 2025 and to 2026.
[2:25:35] So, for 2025 po, we have cases under packfinding investigation totaling to 209.
[2:25:53] And meron din po kami undergoing preliminary investigation and administrative adjudication for 2025.
[2:26:00] 29 po yun, and 2026 meron pong lima.
[2:26:03] As to the cases filed in courts, for 2025 meron pong isang na-file sa lower court.
[2:26:11] And then for 2026, tatlo po. Dalawa sa Sandigan Bayan and one with the lower court.
[2:26:17] Attorney Batu, quick question lang.
[2:26:20] Kasi the people are wondering, parang sobrang bagal na umusad.
[2:26:24] I mean, the Ombudsman, the Office of the Ombudsman, even the Office of the President was saying
[2:26:28] that people are waiting na we want proof na the government's moving and serious in this investigation.
[2:26:34] Wala pa pong lumalabas. Isa pa lamang po ang nalabasan ng warrant.
[2:26:38] Actually, dalawa pa lang. Former Senator Revilla and then Senator Jingoy.
[2:26:42] The question now of the people is like, kailan po kaya lalabas yung ibang mga warrants?
[2:26:46] Meron na bo bang palabas?
[2:26:48] Because we keep on investigating. We keep on parang puro tay kwento, pero ala na pong kwenta, ala na nangyayari.
[2:26:54] Kaya people are really waiting na if this government is serious in its investigation na may mangyayari,
[2:27:01] then can we expect soon na meron pong mga arrest warrants na Sandigan Bayan will issue,
[2:27:07] I mean, from your office, Attorney Bato.
[2:27:12] Your Honor, as these cases are already undergoing preliminary investigation and administrative adjudication
[2:27:19] before we're going to file the necessary information with the appropriate courts,
[2:27:24] So, I'm not at liberty to say kung ano na po yung mga profiling sa courts
[2:27:31] or ano na po yung mga, kung sino-sino po yung pa-filing ng mga information sa courts.
[2:27:39] Go ahead, Senator Baum.
[2:27:41] Maraming salamat, Mr. Chairman. This question is for the Ombudsman.
[2:27:46] Ito pong mga affidavits ng ating 18 former bodyguards po ni Zaldico,
[2:27:53] ito po ba'y iniimbestigan rin po ninyo?
[2:27:55] Kasama ba ito sa nabanggit niyong for fact finding or preliminary investigation?
[2:28:01] I'm not at any liberty to say that, pero from what I know, from my personal knowledge,
[2:28:09] kasi ako po yung OIC ng Central Records Division,
[2:28:13] when all documents addressed to the Ombudsman or filed with the Office of the Ombudsman
[2:28:18] usually undergo evaluation po kasi.
[2:28:20] So, when it was evaluated by our lawyer evaluators and reviewed and approved by our officials,
[2:28:27] we sent a notice to Attorney Baligod
[2:28:32] saying that what the office requires is yung tigi-isa pong affidavit for the Marines
[2:28:41] to declare or to state their personal knowledge dun sa mga statements nila.
[2:28:46] Hindi po yung kolektibo?
[2:28:48] Yes.
[2:28:48] Kasi parang collective, isa lang po yung joint affidavit nilang lahat.
[2:28:53] So, when it was evaluated, sabi po nung lawyer evaluator namin
[2:28:59] and then it was reviewed and approved by our officials
[2:29:01] na parang hindi pwedeng lahat sila, iisa lang ang sinasabi
[2:29:06] kasi yung mga sinasabi nilang dinala nila, ilan lang naman dun ang nandun na present.
[2:29:11] So, others hindi naman din present.
[2:29:13] So, they cannot have a collective affidavit.
[2:29:15] Okay. So, kung kumbaga po, sinaseryoso ninyo itong mga allegasyon na ito
[2:29:22] at nag-next step kayo, which is to ask for individual affidavits.
[2:29:26] Tama po yun, Attorney Batu?
[2:29:28] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:29:29] At nakapagsummit ba ng individual affidavits?
[2:29:32] As far as I know, wala pa po.
[2:29:33] Okay. Kasi dito po sa Blue Ribbon, you know, many of our resource persons
[2:29:38] have been here for months already.
[2:29:41] It's my further investigation.
[2:29:42] At, syempre po, marami ho dito, maraming sinasabi, marami ring denial,
[2:29:49] pero yung pinaka mainam talaga, kung talagang totoong iniimbestighan itong mga ito
[2:29:54] at magagaling mismo sa mga ahensya, kung meron ba talagang bigat ito o wala.
[2:30:09] So, sinasabi po ninyo, tinutuloy nyo yung investigation,
[2:30:13] pero hindi pa sila nagsasubmit ng individual affidavit
[2:30:17] para talagang mahimay at malaman kung meron pa talagang probative value
[2:30:22] yung kanilang mga statement.
[2:30:23] Tama po ba yun, Attorney Batu?
[2:30:25] Your Honor, upon evaluation, we required the handling lawyer,
[2:30:33] si Attorney Balikod, to please submit individual joint affidavit of the Marines.
[2:30:39] Kung makapagbigay po sila ng individual affidavit,
[2:30:42] o kaya ngayon, kung pumunta po sila dito,
[2:30:44] may kanya-kanyang testimonya under oath,
[2:30:47] at nakuha po nyo yun, ano po yung responsibilidad ng ombudsman?
[2:30:52] Hindi ho ba para investigahan pa rin po yan
[2:30:54] at hanapin yung katotohanan?
[2:30:57] Going to the usual process or order,
[2:31:00] if it's sufficient in form and substance,
[2:31:02] yung kanila, if it's in the form of a complaint affidavit,
[2:31:06] and then it's sufficient in form and substance,
[2:31:08] pwede po siyang mag-undergo ng preliminary investigation.
[2:31:12] At kayo po mismo, Attorney, yung nag-iimbestiga
[2:31:13] o ipapasa po nyo sa NBI or sa DOJ?
[2:31:18] Kami po, pwede po namin investigahan diretsyo yun.
[2:31:22] Preliminary investigation din po kasi
[2:31:24] we have our bureaus doing that.
[2:31:26] Okay, so in usual practice,
[2:31:28] kapag may mga bagong impormasyon,
[2:31:30] ano po yung proseso po ninyo?
[2:31:32] Do you forward it to the other agencies
[2:31:34] for further investigation
[2:31:36] or kayo mismo yung nag-iimbestiga?
[2:31:37] Yung pack-finding investigation po,
[2:31:40] our office, yun nagkakonduct talaga ng pack-finding investigations.
[2:31:45] For context po, Your Honor,
[2:31:47] yung mga sinasubject to pack-finding investigations
[2:31:50] are those complaint, like anonymous,
[2:31:53] na hindi siya sufficient in form
[2:31:55] but merong mga verifiable needs.
[2:31:57] Okay.
[2:31:58] At hindi pa yun nagagawa para sa affidavits
[2:32:01] ng mga 18 bodyguards
[2:32:03] kasi hindi pa sila nagsasubmit
[2:32:05] ng individual na affidavit.
[2:32:07] Is that correct?
[2:32:07] Yan ba yung tamang proseso?
[2:32:08] So, yun po ang last ano namin sa kanila,
[2:32:13] evaluation is for them to submit
[2:32:15] individual affidavits.
[2:32:19] At kung makapagsubmit po sila,
[2:32:21] ano po yung magiging susunod na proseso doon?
[2:32:23] It will still be subject to evaluation, Your Honor.
[2:32:26] So, kasi we'll just check,
[2:32:28] we'll still check kung kompleto siya,
[2:32:30] like I said,
[2:32:31] kung sufficient in form and substance
[2:32:33] that can go through the,
[2:32:35] directly to the preliminary investigation.
[2:32:37] Kung hindi naman,
[2:32:39] we can forward it to the
[2:32:41] field investigation office
[2:32:42] for the conduct of fact-finding investigation.
[2:32:44] Pero hindi pa,
[2:32:46] I guess kasi Atty. Batu yung binabato
[2:32:49] kasi parang hindi daw pinapansin
[2:32:51] yung mga ibang testimonya nila
[2:32:55] o nasa affidavit.
[2:32:56] Yan yung kanilang binabato ngayon.
[2:32:58] Saya gusto kong lang malaman,
[2:33:00] hindi nyo naman sinasara ito.
[2:33:01] Humihingi kayo ng further affidavit
[2:33:03] para ma-fact-finding.
[2:33:05] Kasi lahat ko kami dito
[2:33:05] pwedeng i-fact-finding, di ba?
[2:33:07] Tama naman po.
[2:33:08] Atty. Melvin,
[2:33:09] lahat ng mga pangalang binabanggit,
[2:33:12] fina-further investigate po ninyo,
[2:33:14] kahit congressman yan,
[2:33:15] senador yan,
[2:33:16] o kung sino man yan.
[2:33:18] Well, tama po yun.
[2:33:19] Kagaya nga po doon sa sinabi namin,
[2:33:22] Senator,
[2:33:24] hindi kami makapunta doon sa kanilang
[2:33:26] aligasyon dahil doon mismo
[2:33:28] sa kanilang isinabit na binibit.
[2:33:30] At nung kinuha namin sila
[2:33:31] ng pahayag isa-isa,
[2:33:32] ayaw naman din pirmahan.
[2:33:34] So paano po tayo magtutungo
[2:33:36] doon sa next step
[2:33:37] na ipapatawag natin yung
[2:33:38] mga binabanggit nilang pangalan.
[2:33:40] Mr. Chair,
[2:33:41] pwede makasingin
[2:33:42] with the indulgence of
[2:33:43] Senator
[2:33:44] Joaquino.
[2:33:46] Bakit kinakailangan
[2:33:47] individual
[2:33:48] pangalang
[2:33:49] na,
[2:33:52] David?
[2:33:53] Yun na nga po yung binabanggit namin
[2:33:55] kasi yung probative value po nito
[2:33:56] mababa.
[2:33:58] Kasi ang David po,
[2:33:59] dapat,
[2:34:00] basis ay yung karanasan
[2:34:01] sa sarili mong recollection.
[2:34:04] Tapos yung pag-identify.
[2:34:05] Kung maalala nyo po,
[2:34:06] bahasa doon sa binanggit ko na
[2:34:08] na report,
[2:34:09] basis sa natapos na report
[2:34:10] ng aming packfinding
[2:34:11] ng taskforce namin,
[2:34:14] hinihingan po sila
[2:34:14] ng mga additional na ebidensya,
[2:34:17] hinihingan sila
[2:34:17] ng kanya-kanyang pahayag,
[2:34:19] pero binigyan po namin
[2:34:20] ng supesyenteng panahon
[2:34:21] para magsumitin ito,
[2:34:23] para makaproceed po kami
[2:34:25] to do a packfinding
[2:34:26] doon po sa mga binanggit na pangalan.
[2:34:28] Okay, dalawa na lamang.
[2:34:33] So,
[2:34:34] nakapag-issue na ba
[2:34:34] ng kanya-kanyang affidavit
[2:34:36] itong labing walang kargador
[2:34:38] have the issue?
[2:34:39] Ang binanggit na pangalan
[2:34:56] ay investigahan namin
[2:34:58] pero hindi po namin
[2:34:59] isinasara yung investigasyon.
[2:35:01] Hanggang ngayon,
[2:35:02] bukas po yung investigasyon
[2:35:03] kung meron pong papasok
[2:35:04] na mga ebidensya
[2:35:05] na direktang magtuturo
[2:35:07] o matibay na ebidensya
[2:35:09] na papasa po
[2:35:10] doon sa probable cause
[2:35:11] na tinatawag
[2:35:11] or reasonable
[2:35:12] certificate of condition.
[2:35:13] Okay, yung lima po
[2:35:13] na nag-execute ng affidavit
[2:35:15] individually po yun?
[2:35:16] Individually po.
[2:35:17] Okay.
[2:35:19] Ano pong nilalaman
[2:35:21] ng kanyang affidavit
[2:35:21] at yun po ba
[2:35:23] hindi na nagpabago-bago?
[2:35:26] O pinahindigan nila
[2:35:27] kung ano yung unang
[2:35:28] affidavit na inisyo nila sa inyo?
[2:35:29] Ang malungkot po
[2:35:30] doon sa mga pumirma,
[2:35:31] lumalabas
[2:35:32] 10% lang po talaga
[2:35:33] yung parang
[2:35:34] direktang alam nila
[2:35:35] and all the others
[2:35:37] are hearsay.
[2:35:38] Lagi nilang itinuturo
[2:35:39] kung sino-sinong
[2:35:40] personalidad po
[2:35:41] o nakita nila sa group.
[2:35:42] So ano tawag niyo po
[2:35:43] sa ganung klaseng affidavit
[2:35:45] na hearsay lang pala
[2:35:46] nanunumpa sila
[2:35:47] na sa buong katotohanan
[2:35:48] yun ang pagkakaalam nila
[2:35:49] pero yun pala
[2:35:50] yung information na yun
[2:35:51] ay second hand
[2:35:52] o third hand pala
[2:35:53] binigay lang sa kanila?
[2:35:54] Ang hindi po ko nagsasabi
[2:35:55] ang Korte Suprema na po
[2:35:56] nagsasabi
[2:35:57] na yan yung pinakamababang value
[2:35:58] ng ebidensya po
[2:35:59] na hindi po titindig
[2:36:01] na kahit po
[2:36:02] baka pagdinala namin
[2:36:03] sa DOJ
[2:36:04] or sa Ombudsman
[2:36:05] ay doon pa lang po
[2:36:05] sa level na yun
[2:36:06] hindi na po pumasok yung kaso.
[2:36:08] Sahalip na po
[2:36:09] na tumiba yung kaso
[2:36:10] doon sa mga binabanggit
[2:36:11] mahalimbawa
[2:36:12] na meron talagang kinalaman
[2:36:13] sa anomalya
[2:36:14] ay baka makatulong pa ito
[2:36:16] para humina po
[2:36:17] yung kaso na ilalaban po.
[2:36:18] Okay,
[2:36:19] noong April 28 po
[2:36:20] ano,
[2:36:21] 2026
[2:36:22] isa pong affidavit
[2:36:23] na in-execute
[2:36:24] sa special action unit
[2:36:25] ng NBI
[2:36:26] ano po
[2:36:27] ng isa sa mga kamag-anak
[2:36:28] ng labing walong kargador.
[2:36:31] Now,
[2:36:31] ready na ho bang
[2:36:32] NBI na ipresent po
[2:36:33] yung detalye
[2:36:34] doon sa affidavit na yun
[2:36:35] na sinasabi nga pong
[2:36:38] nakatanggap ng 5 million
[2:36:41] para sa isang false testimony?
[2:36:44] Pabuti po
[2:36:45] na nabanggit to yan
[2:36:46] kasi nangyari nga po yan
[2:36:47] noong habang
[2:36:48] nagkakaroon sila
[2:36:49] ng pagdinig dito
[2:36:52] hindi ko alam po
[2:36:53] ano pong eksaktong tawag doon
[2:36:54] na hawak na po namin yun
[2:36:57] since April 28 pa
[2:36:59] tapos bumalik pa nga po
[2:37:01] para ayusin yung kanyang testimony
[2:37:02] ito po
[2:37:03] parang
[2:37:04] benan po niya yung isa
[2:37:06] sa miyembro
[2:37:06] ng 18 bodyguards
[2:37:09] na sinasabi niya
[2:37:11] ang pinangako po ni
[2:37:13] na kinumbisi sila
[2:37:14] na sumama
[2:37:15] sa pangako
[2:37:16] na bibigyan
[2:37:17] ang bawat isa
[2:37:17] ng 5 million
[2:37:18] pero ang sinabi
[2:37:20] hindi naman po
[2:37:20] nabigay pa yung 5 million
[2:37:22] ng una
[2:37:22] sabi 700,000
[2:37:23] pero ang kabuan
[2:37:24] pa lang pala
[2:37:25] na nabibigay
[2:37:25] 350,000
[2:37:27] 500 million each
[2:37:29] dapat?
[2:37:29] 5 million po dapat
[2:37:30] bawat isa
[2:37:31] 5 million
[2:37:31] pero hindi nabigay
[2:37:33] yung 5 million each
[2:37:34] wala pa po yata
[2:37:34] na ibibigay
[2:37:35] base po doon
[2:37:36] sa testimonya
[2:37:37] nitong manugang
[2:37:39] magkano lang pong
[2:37:40] na-release
[2:37:41] sabi po doon ito
[2:37:42] yung sa personal account po
[2:37:43] 350
[2:37:44] sino pong nabigyan
[2:37:45] ng 350
[2:37:46] out of that
[2:37:46] si
[2:37:46] galik po kay Mike Defensor
[2:37:48] at siyempre
[2:37:49] kasama po si Atone Balikod
[2:37:51] yung po yung aming
[2:37:51] pinapalawak pa
[2:37:52] kaya nga po namin
[2:37:53] pero sino pong
[2:37:54] nakatanggap
[2:37:55] nung 300
[2:37:56] isang marine po
[2:37:57] isa lang po
[2:37:58] isa pa lang po
[2:37:58] siya lang po
[2:38:00] yung may recollection
[2:38:01] hindi ko po alam
[2:38:02] yung sa 17
[2:38:03] ibig sabihin po
[2:38:04] Mr. Chair
[2:38:05] ang recollection po nito
[2:38:07] yun sa pag-uusap
[2:38:09] nilang dalawa
[2:38:10] ng kanyang bihenan
[2:38:11] so ibig sabihin
[2:38:12] kaya po
[2:38:12] lumantad
[2:38:13] itong 18 kargador
[2:38:15] dahil
[2:38:15] pinangkuhan po sila
[2:38:16] mabibigyan ng
[2:38:17] 5 million pesos each
[2:38:19] yun po yung
[2:38:19] sinasabi
[2:38:20] isa sa membro nila
[2:38:21] pero gusto ko po
[2:38:22] liwanagin
[2:38:23] I will take the opportunity
[2:38:24] na liwanagin
[2:38:25] kasi narinig ko po
[2:38:26] pinapupunta ko rito
[2:38:27] noon ni
[2:38:28] Senator Cayetano
[2:38:29] kasi para daw
[2:38:31] harapin ko daw
[2:38:32] si Ginong Mike Defensor
[2:38:33] alam naman po natin
[2:38:35] na hindi naman po
[2:38:35] ganun yung proseso
[2:38:36] ng isang committee hearing
[2:38:37] pero
[2:38:39] una-una po
[2:38:40] hindi naman po
[2:38:41] ibig sabihin
[2:38:41] suspect na kagad natin
[2:38:43] o akusado na si
[2:38:44] Mike Defensor
[2:38:45] ang NBI po
[2:38:46] nag-i-issue po kami
[2:38:47] ng sabwi na
[2:38:48] hindi dahil pinagsususpecha
[2:38:49] kayo kundi
[2:38:50] as a part of our
[2:38:51] packfinding
[2:38:52] inaalam nga po namin
[2:38:53] ang sabi ko nga po
[2:38:54] kung mapatunayan namin
[2:38:55] na itong taon to
[2:38:56] nagsisinungaling
[2:38:57] laban kay Mike Defensor
[2:38:59] tutulungan pa po namin
[2:39:00] si Ginong Mike Defensor
[2:39:01] nahabulin at
[2:39:02] papanagutin po
[2:39:03] yung taon na yun
[2:39:04] Okay, last na naman
[2:39:04] alimbawa po
[2:39:06] napatunayan ng NBI
[2:39:07] na totoo ngayong
[2:39:08] allegasyon
[2:39:09] na sila po
[2:39:10] ay tumanggap
[2:39:11] ng 5 million
[2:39:12] in exchange for
[2:39:12] false testimony
[2:39:13] ano pong kaso noon?
[2:39:14] Well, may pananagutan po yan
[2:39:16] sa revised penal code
[2:39:18] kasi
[2:39:18] yung pong ikaw
[2:39:19] nagihimok
[2:39:21] ng titistigo
[2:39:22] para kasuhan
[2:39:23] ng kriminal
[2:39:24] yung isang tao
[2:39:24] na wala naman talagang
[2:39:25] basihan
[2:39:26] ay pinaparusahan po yan
[2:39:27] sa ilalim
[2:39:28] ng ating
[2:39:28] revised penal code
[2:39:29] at yung pong
[2:39:30] nagtistigo
[2:39:30] nagbigay ng false testimony
[2:39:31] kapalit ng pera
[2:39:32] ano pong kaso noon?
[2:39:34] May kaso rin po yun
[2:39:35] pwede managot po
[2:39:35] ng perjury po
[2:39:36] Maraming salamat po
[2:39:37] Thank you
[2:39:38] Mr. Chair
[2:39:39] with the indulgence
[2:39:40] of Senator Bam
[2:39:41] I'm done
[2:39:42] Mr. Chair
[2:39:43] Go ahead
[2:39:44] Is that the only
[2:39:45] Follow up question
[2:39:46] Mr. Chair
[2:39:47] Salamat po
[2:39:47] So malinaw
[2:39:49] na dun sa mga
[2:39:50] allegasyon
[2:39:51] ng 18x bodyguards
[2:39:53] nagpapatuloy
[2:39:54] Mr. Chair
[2:39:55] Salamat po
[2:39:56] So malinaw
[2:39:58] na dun sa mga
[2:39:59] allegasyon
[2:40:00] ng 18x bodyguards
[2:40:02] nagpapatuloy
[2:40:03] ang investigasyon
[2:40:04] ng NBI
[2:40:04] and then
[2:40:05] kung kanina
[2:40:06] sa ombudsman
[2:40:07] ang next step
[2:40:08] dun sa mga
[2:40:09] allegasyon nila
[2:40:10] ay pinagsusumitin nyo
[2:40:11] sila ng tigi-isang
[2:40:13] individual affidavit
[2:40:14] Sa DOJ naman po
[2:40:16] ano yung next steps
[2:40:18] ng department
[2:40:19] dun sa mga
[2:40:20] allegasyon
[2:40:21] ng ex-bodyguards?
[2:40:23] Well as far as
[2:40:23] the DOJ is concerned
[2:40:24] ma'am
[2:40:25] we will work
[2:40:26] together with
[2:40:27] the National Bureau
[2:40:28] of Investigation
[2:40:28] kasi meron po tayong
[2:40:30] dun sa fact finding
[2:40:31] or dun sa case build up
[2:40:33] dapat po magkatuwang
[2:40:34] yung public prosecutors
[2:40:36] at saka yung ating
[2:40:37] law enforcement
[2:40:39] So
[2:40:40] yung sinasabi kanina
[2:40:42] ni Direktor
[2:40:43] binabaan pa nga daw po
[2:40:44] nila yung
[2:40:45] antas ng ebidensya
[2:40:46] which is
[2:40:47] probable cause only
[2:40:48] but
[2:40:49] again
[2:40:50] as far as
[2:40:51] the department
[2:40:51] is concerned
[2:40:52] there is already
[2:40:53] a higher standard
[2:40:54] which is prima facie
[2:40:55] with reasonable
[2:40:55] certainty of conviction
[2:40:56] kung dun sa sinasabi
[2:40:58] din Direktor
[2:40:59] hindi na dumulusot
[2:41:00] sa probable cause
[2:41:01] with all the more
[2:41:02] reason
[2:41:02] it cannot prosper
[2:41:03] or not even be
[2:41:04] accepted by the
[2:41:05] department
[2:41:06] kasi sa department
[2:41:08] po ngayon
[2:41:08] hindi po
[2:41:09] como na i-submit
[2:41:10] o na i-file
[2:41:10] yung kaso
[2:41:11] automatic
[2:41:11] it will be
[2:41:12] docketed as a
[2:41:13] criminal case
[2:41:13] and subject to
[2:41:14] preliminary investigation
[2:41:16] ang mangyayari po
[2:41:17] ito po'y dadaan pa rin
[2:41:19] sa masusing evaluation
[2:41:20] para malaman
[2:41:21] kung sapat na po ba
[2:41:23] yung ebidensya
[2:41:23] at kung ito'y sapat na
[2:41:25] saka padamang po ito
[2:41:26] aakyat
[2:41:27] para maging
[2:41:28] isang kaso
[2:41:29] criminal case
[2:41:30] which should be
[2:41:30] subject to PI
[2:41:31] tinitiyak po natin
[2:41:33] kasi
[2:41:34] na kung magsasampa tayo
[2:41:35] ng kaso ngayon
[2:41:36] hindi lang yung
[2:41:37] for the sake of
[2:41:38] filing it
[2:41:38] but one which
[2:41:39] should really be able
[2:41:40] to withstand
[2:41:41] the rigors of trial
[2:41:42] kung darating po tayo
[2:41:43] sa punto na yon
[2:41:44] so if that is the case
[2:41:46] sa malamang
[2:41:47] at sa malamang
[2:41:48] kung sa probable
[2:41:49] cause
[2:41:50] hindi lulusot
[2:41:50] sa malamang
[2:41:52] pag sa evaluation
[2:41:52] pa lang
[2:41:53] baka hindi na rin
[2:41:54] makalusot sa department
[2:41:55] yan
[2:41:55] Salamat Mr. Chair
[2:41:57] gusto ko lang
[2:41:58] i-make of record
[2:41:59] na na-appreciate ko po
[2:42:00] yung efforts
[2:42:01] ng DOJ
[2:42:03] ang Office of the Ombudsman
[2:42:05] at saka NBI
[2:42:06] lalo na yung huling
[2:42:07] sinabi ni
[2:42:08] Prosecutor General
[2:42:10] Fadulion
[2:42:10] may certain
[2:42:11] liberality
[2:42:12] na sinusubukang
[2:42:14] gamitin
[2:42:15] and yet
[2:42:16] hinahanda ng
[2:42:17] maayos
[2:42:18] kung anumang
[2:42:18] mga kaso
[2:42:19] para talagang
[2:42:20] ang maging resulta
[2:42:21] ay mahanap po
[2:42:22] yung katotohanan
[2:42:23] and I hope
[2:42:24] everyone around the table
[2:42:26] and even those
[2:42:26] na hindi
[2:42:27] dumalo sa table
[2:42:29] ay na-appreciate po
[2:42:30] yung effort na ganoon
[2:42:31] Salamat Mr. Chair
[2:42:32] Thank you
[2:42:33] Just a quick question
[2:42:34] Mr. Chairman
[2:42:35] Sabi ng ating
[2:42:37] representative ng
[2:42:38] Ombudsman
[2:42:38] ang hiniling nila
[2:42:40] ay gawing
[2:42:41] individual affidavits
[2:42:42] dahil nga
[2:42:43] omnibus
[2:42:43] affidavit
[2:42:44] yung sinumiti
[2:42:45] Ganon din
[2:42:46] ang sinabi
[2:42:46] ng ating
[2:42:47] director
[2:42:47] individual
[2:42:48] affidavits
[2:42:50] at hindi
[2:42:51] pwede
[2:42:51] itong
[2:42:51] labing
[2:42:52] walo
[2:42:52] ay pumirman
[2:42:53] ng isang
[2:42:53] affidavit
[2:42:54] Can we get
[2:42:54] the sense
[2:42:55] of the
[2:42:55] prosecutor
[2:42:55] general
[2:42:56] how do you
[2:42:57] treat
[2:42:58] as a general
[2:42:59] rule
[2:42:59] how do you
[2:43:00] treat
[2:43:00] an omnibus
[2:43:01] affidavit
[2:43:02] of 15
[2:43:03] 20
[2:43:04] maybe 40
[2:43:06] people
[2:43:06] I don't
[2:43:06] know
[2:43:06] go ahead
[2:43:08] Mr. Chair
[2:43:09] if a joint
[2:43:10] affidavit
[2:43:11] is submitted
[2:43:12] to the
[2:43:12] Department
[2:43:12] of Justice
[2:43:13] and this
[2:43:14] joint
[2:43:14] affidavit
[2:43:15] is signed
[2:43:15] by let's
[2:43:16] say
[2:43:16] 10
[2:43:17] or 18
[2:43:18] people
[2:43:18] for that
[2:43:18] matter
[2:43:19] kapag
[2:43:20] hindi wala
[2:43:21] pong
[2:43:21] qualification
[2:43:22] dun sa
[2:43:22] affidavit
[2:43:23] dun sa
[2:43:23] salaysay
[2:43:24] na ito
[2:43:25] po
[2:43:25] ay
[2:43:26] was taken
[2:43:28] was participated
[2:43:29] in
[2:43:29] by this
[2:43:30] particular
[2:43:31] individual
[2:43:31] it would
[2:43:32] appear
[2:43:32] as far
[2:43:33] as the
[2:43:34] reader
[2:43:34] is concerned
[2:43:35] that lahat
[2:43:36] po sila
[2:43:36] na nakapirma
[2:43:37] dun
[2:43:37] then I
[2:44:00] would have
[2:44:00] to concede
[2:44:01] to the
[2:44:02] strategy
[2:44:03] being undertaken
[2:44:04] by the
[2:44:04] NBI
[2:44:05] as well
[2:44:05] as the
[2:44:06] ombudsman
[2:44:06] that it's
[2:44:08] better to
[2:44:08] really have
[2:44:09] individual
[2:44:10] affidavits
[2:44:11] because
[2:44:11] it's also
[2:44:13] a way
[2:44:13] of trying
[2:44:14] to compare
[2:44:15] and test
[2:44:15] the credibility
[2:44:16] of these
[2:44:17] witnesses
[2:44:18] kapag
[2:44:19] again
[2:44:20] yung sinabi
[2:44:21] po kanina
[2:44:21] Supreme
[2:44:22] Court has
[2:44:23] already decided
[2:44:23] in a host
[2:44:24] of cases
[2:44:25] that when
[2:44:26] affidavits
[2:44:27] perfectly
[2:44:28] or the
[2:44:28] allegations
[2:44:29] or statements
[2:44:29] perfectly
[2:44:30] dovetail
[2:44:31] ibig sabihin
[2:44:32] pag tinignan nyo
[2:44:33] parang talagang
[2:44:34] pattern talaga siya
[2:44:36] inakaduda-duda po
[2:44:38] yung ganon
[2:44:38] mas maigi po
[2:44:39] yung merong
[2:44:40] konting
[2:44:40] inconsistency
[2:44:41] because it
[2:44:42] gives badges
[2:44:43] of truth
[2:44:44] to it
[2:44:44] rather than
[2:44:45] if it
[2:44:46] perfectly
[2:44:46] dovetails
[2:44:47] and then
[2:44:47] it says
[2:44:48] practically
[2:44:48] the same
[2:44:49] thing
[2:44:49] then
[2:44:50] there is
[2:44:51] something
[2:44:51] questionable
[2:44:52] about that
[2:44:52] Mr. Chair
[2:44:54] quickly
[2:44:54] before
[2:44:55] you
[2:44:55] indulgence
[2:44:56] actually
[2:44:57] after
[2:44:58] Senator
[2:44:59] Rafi
[2:45:00] it's your
[2:45:01] turn
[2:45:02] para lang
[2:45:03] bago natin
[2:45:04] iwanan
[2:45:05] itong
[2:45:05] subject
[2:45:05] sa affidavit
[2:45:06] Mr. Chair
[2:45:08] siguro hindi
[2:45:09] hudaman
[2:45:10] sa Central
[2:45:11] Division
[2:45:12] Office
[2:45:12] ng Ombudsman
[2:45:13] pero itong
[2:45:13] affidavit
[2:45:14] na lima
[2:45:14] ay nakakuha
[2:45:16] po
[2:45:16] from
[2:45:17] Deputy
[2:45:18] Ombudsman
[2:45:19] Nico
[2:45:20] and also
[2:45:21] si
[2:45:22] Director
[2:45:22] Matibag
[2:45:22] ang sakin
[2:45:23] ko kasi
[2:45:24] Mr. Chair
[2:45:24] iba po yun
[2:45:25] talagang
[2:45:26] pinirmahan
[2:45:26] pag pinirmahan
[2:45:27] ang affidavit
[2:45:28] ibig sabihin
[2:45:29] pag
[2:45:29] pagpalagay na natin
[2:45:32] 10%
[2:45:33] nga lang
[2:45:34] ang totoo
[2:45:34] doon
[2:45:35] pero may
[2:45:36] magagamit
[2:45:37] pa rin
[2:45:37] hubo
[2:45:37] doon
[2:45:38] tanong ko
[2:45:38] lang
[2:45:38] kay
[2:45:39] Director
[2:45:40] Matibag
[2:45:40] doon
[2:45:40] sa
[2:45:40] sinasabi
[2:45:41] niyong
[2:45:41] halimbawa
[2:45:42] yun
[2:45:43] sa mga
[2:45:43] limang
[2:45:43] individual
[2:45:44] na
[2:45:44] pumirma
[2:45:45] may
[2:45:46] matutukoy
[2:45:46] kasi
[2:45:47] ang
[2:45:47] gusto
[2:45:48] natin
[2:45:48] batuntun
[2:45:49] dito
[2:45:49] yung
[2:45:49] matunay
[2:45:50] na sa larin
[2:45:50] kahit
[2:45:51] paano
[2:45:51] kung meron
[2:45:52] silang
[2:45:52] personal
[2:45:53] knowledge
[2:45:53] kung talagang
[2:45:55] yung
[2:45:55] kanilang
[2:45:55] isinalaysay
[2:45:56] kahit
[2:45:57] pa 10%
[2:45:58] 20%
[2:45:59] ay
[2:46:00] sa tingin
[2:46:01] nyo ba
[2:46:01] pwede
[2:46:01] magamit
[2:46:02] para
[2:46:02] matukoy
[2:46:03] yung mga
[2:46:03] tunay
[2:46:04] na
[2:46:04] salary
[2:46:04] nito
[2:46:04] dahil
[2:46:05] baka
[2:46:05] pwede
[2:46:05] sabi ko
[2:46:06] nga
[2:46:06] yung
[2:46:07] labing
[2:46:07] walong
[2:46:08] yun
[2:46:08] maganda
[2:46:09] kung
[2:46:09] sabihin
[2:46:10] nila
[2:46:10] rito
[2:46:10] para
[2:46:11] maitayhin
[2:46:12] natin
[2:46:13] para
[2:46:13] malaman
[2:46:14] natin
[2:46:14] at
[2:46:14] matuntun
[2:46:14] yung
[2:46:15] mga
[2:46:15] talagang
[2:46:15] may kagagawan
[2:46:17] nito
[2:46:17] sige
[2:46:17] director
[2:46:18] Matibag
[2:46:19] Salamat
[2:46:20] po
[2:46:20] Mr.
[2:46:20] Chair
[2:46:21] tama
[2:46:22] po yun
[2:46:22] pero
[2:46:23] dun po
[2:46:23] sa 10%
[2:46:24] ang 20%
[2:46:25] na sinasabing
[2:46:26] totoo
[2:46:26] yung
[2:46:26] participation
[2:46:27] nila
[2:46:27] sa driver
[2:46:28] hindi
[2:46:29] po
[2:46:29] ma-establish
[2:46:30] pa rin
[2:46:31] talaga
[2:46:31] kung
[2:46:32] nakita
[2:46:32] nilang
[2:46:32] actual
[2:46:33] may
[2:46:33] pera
[2:46:33] ba
[2:46:33] talaga
[2:46:34] may
[2:46:34] dala
[2:46:34] I will
[2:46:35] cite
[2:46:35] an
[2:46:35] example
[2:46:36] yung
[2:46:36] isa
[2:46:36] po
[2:46:36] sa
[2:46:36] pwede
[2:46:36] si
[2:46:37] Hil
[2:46:38] Nabidad
[2:46:39] yung
[2:46:39] isa
[2:46:40] sa
[2:46:40] mga
[2:46:40] labing
[2:46:41] walo
[2:46:41] tinanong
[2:46:42] siya
[2:46:42] kasi
[2:46:42] may
[2:46:43] allegation
[2:46:43] siya
[2:46:44] nakasama
[2:46:44] siya
[2:46:44] nag-deliver
[2:46:45] tinanong
[2:46:46] siya
[2:46:46] dun po
[2:46:47] sa
[2:46:47] one-on-one
[2:46:47] interview
[2:46:48] sa pag
[2:46:49] dideliver
[2:46:49] po
[2:46:49] na mga
[2:46:50] mali
[2:46:50] tanong
[2:46:52] na maneho
[2:46:53] mo po
[2:46:53] ba
[2:46:53] lahat
[2:46:54] ng
[2:46:54] ito
[2:46:54] o may
[2:46:55] maneho
[2:46:55] pang
[2:46:56] iba
[2:46:56] kasi
[2:46:56] nagbigay
[2:46:57] po siya
[2:46:57] ng
[2:46:57] plate
[2:46:58] number
[2:46:58] so
[2:46:58] sinabi
[2:46:58] niya
[2:46:59] yun
[2:46:59] dun yung
[2:47:00] totoo
[2:47:00] yung
[2:47:00] mga
[2:47:00] plate
[2:47:01] number
[2:47:01] totoo
[2:47:02] yun
[2:47:02] tapos
[2:47:03] tinanong
[2:47:03] niya
[2:47:04] sa pag
[2:47:04] dideliver
[2:47:04] po
[2:47:05] ng
[2:47:05] maleta
[2:47:05] na
[2:47:05] may
[2:47:06] lamang
[2:47:06] pera
[2:47:07] anong
[2:47:08] maleta
[2:47:08] po
[2:47:08] ang
[2:47:09] personal
[2:47:09] na
[2:47:09] i-deliver
[2:47:10] ninyo
[2:47:10] very
[2:47:11] specific
[2:47:11] po
[2:47:11] yung
[2:47:11] personal
[2:47:12] na
[2:47:13] i-deliver
[2:47:13] ninyo
[2:47:14] ang
[2:47:14] sagot
[2:47:14] po
[2:47:15] niya
[2:47:15] wala
[2:47:15] po
[2:47:16] tagahatid
[2:47:18] lamang
[2:47:18] po
[2:47:18] ako
[2:47:19] at
[2:47:19] sila
[2:47:19] Mark
[2:47:19] Tiksay
[2:47:20] at
[2:47:20] Paul
[2:47:20] Estrada
[2:47:21] po
[2:47:21] ang
[2:47:21] personal
[2:47:22] na
[2:47:22] nag-ahatid
[2:47:23] kumpara
[2:47:23] kanina
[2:47:23] ang
[2:47:23] mga
[2:47:24] ito
[2:47:24] dun
[2:47:25] pa
[2:47:25] lang
[2:47:26] po
[2:47:26] meron
[2:47:26] ng
[2:47:26] problema
[2:47:27] kasi
[2:47:27] may
[2:47:27] admission
[2:47:28] siya
[2:47:28] inalish
[2:47:29] niya
[2:47:29] sa pinakang
[2:47:30] joint
[2:47:31] upinibit
[2:47:32] na
[2:47:32] nag-deliver
[2:47:33] siya
[2:47:33] ng
[2:47:33] maleta
[2:47:33] nung
[2:47:34] tinanong
[2:47:34] na
[2:47:34] siya
[2:47:34] ng
[2:47:34] personal
[2:47:35] ang
[2:47:36] sagot
[2:47:36] na
[2:47:36] niya
[2:47:36] wala
[2:47:36] pala
[2:47:37] nag-drive
[2:47:38] lang
[2:47:38] siya
[2:47:39] so
[2:47:39] paulit-ulit
[2:47:40] po
[2:47:40] ganun
[2:47:41] yung
[2:47:41] nangyari
[2:47:41] Alright
[2:47:43] thank you
[2:47:44] quickly
[2:47:45] lang
[2:47:45] sa
[2:47:46] balik
[2:47:46] po
[2:47:46] tayo
[2:47:46] sa
[2:47:46] ombudsman
[2:47:47] para
[2:47:49] po
[2:47:49] sa
[2:47:49] mga
[2:47:50] isasagawang
[2:47:51] susunod
[2:47:52] po
[2:47:52] na
[2:47:52] pagdinig
[2:47:53] ano
[2:47:53] pong
[2:47:54] data
[2:47:55] o
[2:47:55] informasyon
[2:47:56] na
[2:47:56] kailangan
[2:47:57] ibigay
[2:47:58] sa inyo
[2:47:58] ng
[2:47:58] Blue
[2:47:58] Ribbon
[2:47:59] para
[2:48:00] ikang
[2:48:00] titibay
[2:48:02] po
[2:48:03] ang
[2:48:03] inyong
[2:48:03] investigasyon
[2:48:04] Do you
[2:48:05] need
[2:48:06] any more
[2:48:06] documents
[2:48:08] pieces
[2:48:09] of
[2:48:09] evidence
[2:48:10] from
[2:48:10] the
[2:48:10] Blue
[2:48:10] Ribbon
[2:48:11] o
[2:48:11] sapat
[2:48:12] na
[2:48:12] po
[2:48:12] yung
[2:48:13] naibigay
[2:48:13] po
[2:48:13] ng
[2:48:14] chairman's
[2:48:14] report
[2:48:15] sa
[2:48:15] inyo
[2:48:15] sa
[2:48:16] ombudsman
[2:48:17] lahat
[2:48:18] po
[2:48:18] ba
[2:48:19] ng
[2:48:19] cases
[2:48:19] na
[2:48:19] kailangan
[2:48:20] po
[2:48:20] ninyo
[2:48:20] kasi
[2:48:21] I
[2:48:21] believe
[2:48:22] naibigay
[2:48:22] na
[2:48:22] po
[2:48:23] ng
[2:48:23] dating
[2:48:23] chairman
[2:48:24] chairman
[2:48:24] Lakson
[2:48:25] sa
[2:48:26] ombudsman
[2:48:27] po
[2:48:27] yung
[2:48:27] kanyang
[2:48:30] thank
[2:48:31] you
[2:48:31] your
[2:48:31] honor
[2:48:32] but
[2:48:32] the
[2:48:33] office
[2:48:33] of
[2:48:33] the
[2:48:33] ombudsman
[2:48:34] will
[2:48:34] always
[2:48:34] welcome
[2:48:35] po
[2:48:35] yung
[2:48:35] additional
[2:48:36] pieces
[2:48:36] of
[2:48:36] evidence
[2:48:37] and
[2:48:37] additional
[2:48:38] testimonies
[2:48:39] testimonies
[2:48:40] if ever
[2:48:40] meron
[2:48:41] po
[2:48:41] also
[2:48:43] yung
[2:48:43] mga
[2:48:43] COA
[2:48:44] reports
[2:48:44] po
[2:48:44] meron
[2:48:45] din
[2:48:45] na
[2:48:45] makukuha
[2:48:46] from
[2:48:46] the
[2:48:48] Senate
[2:48:48] Blue
[2:48:48] Ribbon
[2:48:48] Committee
[2:48:49] that
[2:48:49] would
[2:48:49] help
[2:48:49] a lot
[2:48:50] on
[2:48:51] our
[2:48:51] ongoing
[2:48:51] investigations
[2:48:52] Pero
[2:48:53] kung
[2:48:54] the
[2:48:54] same
[2:48:55] issue
[2:48:55] pa
[2:48:55] rin
[2:48:55] po
[2:48:56] actually
[2:48:56] what
[2:48:57] I
[2:48:57] mean
[2:48:58] to
[2:48:58] say
[2:48:58] pag
[2:48:58] may
[2:48:58] lumotang
[2:48:59] dito
[2:49:00] may
[2:49:00] akusasyona
[2:49:01] naman
[2:49:01] sa isa
[2:49:02] doon
[2:49:02] sa mga
[2:49:02] senador
[2:49:03] na
[2:49:03] pangalanan
[2:49:04] na po
[2:49:05] na
[2:49:05] isabit
[2:49:05] na po
[2:49:05] sa report
[2:49:06] may
[2:49:07] dadagdag
[2:49:07] lang po
[2:49:08] na
[2:49:08] ebidensya
[2:49:09] or
[2:49:09] pareho
[2:49:11] pa rin
[2:49:11] po
[2:49:11] pero
[2:49:11] ibang
[2:49:12] tao
[2:49:12] you get
[2:49:14] you
[2:49:14] what I
[2:49:14] mean
[2:49:14] isang
[2:49:15] tao
[2:49:16] po
[2:49:16] inakusahan
[2:49:17] pero
[2:49:17] nakasama
[2:49:18] na po
[2:49:18] siya
[2:49:18] sa
[2:49:18] chairman's
[2:49:19] report
[2:49:19] pero
[2:49:20] ibang
[2:49:20] tao
[2:49:21] naman
[2:49:21] ito
[2:49:21] nag-aakusah
[2:49:21] pero
[2:49:22] the
[2:49:22] same
[2:49:22] case
[2:49:22] naman
[2:49:23] po
[2:49:23] i-entertain
[2:49:25] pa rin po
[2:49:25] ninyo
[2:49:25] di po
[2:49:26] ba
[2:49:26] yung
[2:49:26] ebidensya
[2:49:27] or
[2:49:27] kailangan
[2:49:28] nyo
[2:49:28] ng bagong
[2:49:29] ebidensya
[2:49:29] na naman
[2:49:30] because
[2:49:30] different
[2:49:31] person
[2:49:31] itong
[2:49:32] nag-aallege
[2:49:32] po
[2:49:33] na
[2:49:33] nag-aakusah
[2:49:34] kung
[2:49:36] bagong
[2:49:36] complainant
[2:49:38] po
[2:49:39] yun
[2:49:39] your
[2:49:39] honor
[2:49:40] hindi
[2:49:41] naman
[2:49:41] magbabago
[2:49:42] yung
[2:49:42] investigation
[2:49:42] namin
[2:49:43] what
[2:49:43] the
[2:49:43] office
[2:49:44] usually
[2:49:44] do
[2:49:45] is
[2:49:45] parang
[2:49:46] kinoconsolidate
[2:49:47] namin
[2:49:47] yun
[2:49:47] dun
[2:49:48] sa
[2:49:48] naunang
[2:49:48] complaint
[2:49:49] against
[2:49:50] the
[2:49:50] same
[2:49:51] say
[2:49:52] lawmaker
[2:49:52] or
[2:49:52] senator
[2:49:53] or
[2:49:53] congressman
[2:49:54] so
[2:49:54] ikoconsolidate
[2:49:55] lang
[2:49:55] namin
[2:49:56] yung
[2:49:56] another
[2:49:56] complaint
[2:49:57] coming
[2:49:58] from
[2:49:58] a
[2:49:58] different
[2:49:58] complainant
[2:49:59] pero
[2:50:00] yung
[2:50:01] mga
[2:50:01] pieces
[2:50:01] of
[2:50:02] evidence
[2:50:02] yun
[2:50:03] din
[2:50:03] po
[2:50:03] yung
[2:50:03] magagamit
[2:50:04] po
[2:50:04] pero
[2:50:05] po
[2:50:05] pwede
[2:50:05] po
[2:50:05] ba
[2:50:06] na
[2:50:06] sabihin
[2:50:07] na lang
[2:50:07] na
[2:50:07] i-diretsyo
[2:50:08] na lang
[2:50:08] sa
[2:50:08] ombudsman
[2:50:09] kasi
[2:50:09] po
[2:50:10] kung
[2:50:10] dito
[2:50:11] paulit
[2:50:11] ulit
[2:50:12] na lang
[2:50:12] tayo
[2:50:13] hindi
[2:50:13] na po
[2:50:13] matatapos
[2:50:14] ang
[2:50:14] trabaho
[2:50:15] po
[2:50:15] ng
[2:50:15] blue
[2:50:15] ribbon
[2:50:16] at
[2:50:16] nakasentro
[2:50:17] lang
[2:50:17] ang
[2:50:17] investigasyon
[2:50:19] sa
[2:50:19] flood
[2:50:20] control
[2:50:20] baka
[2:50:21] naman
[2:50:21] pwede
[2:50:22] kung
[2:50:22] same
[2:50:22] individual
[2:50:23] yun
[2:50:23] isumiti
[2:50:24] na lang
[2:50:25] po
[2:50:25] diretsyo
[2:50:25] sa
[2:50:26] ombudsman
[2:50:27] para
[2:50:27] naman
[2:50:27] po
[2:50:28] hindi
[2:50:28] po
[2:50:28] redundant
[2:50:30] na
[2:50:30] may
[2:50:31] investigasyon
[2:50:31] ko
[2:50:32] yung
[2:50:32] ongawing
[2:50:32] sa
[2:50:32] isang
[2:50:33] tao
[2:50:33] na
[2:50:33] ito
[2:50:33] kunwari
[2:50:34] si
[2:50:34] person
[2:50:35] A
[2:50:35] may
[2:50:36] darating
[2:50:37] na
[2:50:37] naman
[2:50:37] na
[2:50:37] inakusan
[2:50:38] si
[2:50:38] person
[2:50:38] A
[2:50:38] the
[2:50:38] same
[2:50:39] anomaly
[2:50:40] yun
[2:50:41] nga lang
[2:50:41] may bagong
[2:50:42] tao
[2:50:42] na
[2:50:42] magsabihin
[2:50:43] na
[2:50:43] nagpaparatang
[2:50:44] pwede
[2:50:45] po
[2:50:45] yung
[2:50:46] kanyang
[2:50:46] statements
[2:50:47] diretsyo
[2:50:48] na
[2:50:48] lamang
[2:50:48] po
[2:50:48] sa
[2:50:49] ombudsman
[2:50:49] rather
[2:50:49] than
[2:50:50] iimbestigahan
[2:50:51] na
[2:50:51] naman
[2:50:51] po
[2:50:51] dito
[2:50:51] kasi
[2:50:52] hindi
[2:50:52] na
[2:50:52] po
[2:50:52] tayo
[2:50:52] matatapos
[2:50:53] marami
[2:50:53] po
[2:50:54] problem
[2:50:54] ang
[2:50:54] ating
[2:50:55] bayan
[2:50:55] ang
[2:50:55] kailangan
[2:50:55] silipin
[2:50:56] baka
[2:50:57] redundant
[2:50:57] na
[2:50:57] po
[2:50:58] anong
[2:50:59] masasabi
[2:50:59] niyo
[2:51:00] dyan
[2:51:00] Your
[2:51:01] Honor
[2:51:01] the
[2:51:02] Office
[2:51:02] of
[2:51:02] the
[2:51:03] Ombudsman
[2:51:03] never
[2:51:05] naman
[2:51:06] niya
[2:51:06] nagrefuse
[2:51:06] to
[2:51:06] accept
[2:51:07] documents
[2:51:07] submitted
[2:51:08] to
[2:51:08] it
[2:51:08] so
[2:51:09] if
[2:51:10] isasabit
[2:51:10] po
[2:51:10] siya
[2:51:10] sa amin
[2:51:11] diretsyo
[2:51:11] we
[2:51:12] will
[2:51:12] always
[2:51:13] welcome
[2:51:13] it
[2:51:13] kung
[2:51:14] isasabit
[2:51:14] naman
[2:51:15] po
[2:51:15] siya
[2:51:15] sa
[2:51:15] Senate
[2:51:15] Blue
[2:51:16] Ribbon
[2:51:16] Committee
[2:51:16] you can
[2:51:17] always
[2:51:17] endorse
[2:51:18] it
[2:51:18] to
[2:51:18] us
[2:51:18] all right
[2:51:19] thank
[2:51:19] you
[2:51:20] senator
[2:51:20] rafi
[2:51:20] yeah
[2:51:21] maman
[2:51:23] Karen
[2:51:24] nabanggit
[2:51:26] nga
[2:51:26] kanina
[2:51:26] ni
[2:51:27] attorney
[2:51:27] matibag
[2:51:28] ng
[2:51:28] NBI
[2:51:28] kalamihan
[2:51:29] dun
[2:51:30] sa
[2:51:30] labing
[2:51:30] walo
[2:51:31] na
[2:51:31] mga
[2:51:32] kargador
[2:51:33] tawag
[2:51:33] nila
[2:51:33] bodyguards
[2:51:34] na
[2:51:35] paiba-ibang
[2:51:35] statements
[2:51:36] hindi
[2:51:37] tumatay-tay
[2:51:38] ng
[2:51:38] maayos
[2:51:39] now
[2:51:40] having
[2:51:41] said
[2:51:41] that
[2:51:41] siyempre
[2:51:42] gusto
[2:51:42] natin
[2:51:43] yung
[2:51:43] salarin
[2:51:44] talagang
[2:51:45] makasuhan
[2:51:45] at managot
[2:51:46] kung sino
[2:51:47] man yung
[2:51:48] mga
[2:51:48] talagang
[2:51:48] tumanggap
[2:51:49] ng
[2:51:49] pera
[2:51:49] now
[2:51:50] how
[2:51:50] would
[2:51:50] you
[2:51:51] appreciate
[2:51:51] that
[2:51:51] complaints
[2:51:53] being
[2:51:54] forwarded
[2:51:54] to your
[2:51:55] office
[2:51:55] na
[2:51:56] yung
[2:51:56] affidavit
[2:51:57] ay paiba-iba
[2:51:58] tulad
[2:52:00] niya
[2:52:00] sa
[2:52:00] labing
[2:52:01] walong
[2:52:01] kargador
[2:52:01] gusto
[2:52:02] talaga
[2:52:03] natin
[2:52:03] madiin
[2:52:03] yung
[2:52:04] dapat
[2:52:04] madiin
[2:52:04] meron
[2:52:05] talagang
[2:52:05] tumanggap
[2:52:06] kung meron
[2:52:07] pero
[2:52:07] tulang
[2:52:08] binanggit
[2:52:09] niya
[2:52:09] Trini Matibag
[2:52:10] paiba-iba
[2:52:10] yung
[2:52:10] statement
[2:52:11] nila
[2:52:11] tulak
[2:52:14] atras
[2:52:14] tulak
[2:52:15] atras
[2:52:15] at
[2:52:16] wala
[2:52:17] talagang
[2:52:17] definite
[2:52:18] na
[2:52:18] sila
[2:52:19] mismo
[2:52:19] ang
[2:52:20] nag
[2:52:21] deliver
[2:52:21] sila
[2:52:22] mismo
[2:52:22] eyewitness
[2:52:23] at
[2:52:24] may mga
[2:52:24] dokumento
[2:52:25] may
[2:52:25] screenshot
[2:52:26] may recorded
[2:52:27] conversation
[2:52:28] etc
[2:52:28] nothing
[2:52:29] like
[2:52:29] that
[2:52:30] kundi
[2:52:30] here
[2:52:30] say
[2:52:31] lamang
[2:52:31] so
[2:52:31] paano
[2:52:32] atake
[2:52:33] niya
[2:52:33] ng
[2:52:34] ombudsman
[2:52:34] para
[2:52:35] maging
[2:52:36] tight
[2:52:37] yung
[2:52:37] case
[2:52:37] against
[2:52:38] anybody
[2:52:38] na
[2:52:38] talagang
[2:52:39] tumanggap
[2:52:40] ng
[2:52:40] pera
[2:52:40] your
[2:52:42] honor
[2:52:42] that's
[2:52:43] why
[2:52:43] the
[2:52:43] office
[2:52:44] of
[2:52:44] the
[2:52:44] ombudsman
[2:52:44] required
[2:52:45] an
[2:52:46] individual
[2:52:46] complaint
[2:52:47] affidavit
[2:52:48] to
[2:52:48] verify
[2:52:49] po
[2:52:49] yung
[2:52:49] personal
[2:52:50] knowledge
[2:52:50] talaga
[2:52:51] ng
[2:52:51] bawat
[2:52:51] isa
[2:52:52] dun
[2:52:52] sa
[2:52:52] mga
[2:52:52] nagsubmit
[2:52:53] ng
[2:52:53] affidavit
[2:52:56] kasi
[2:52:56] the
[2:52:57] office
[2:52:57] requires
[2:52:58] personal
[2:52:58] knowledge
[2:52:59] para
[2:52:59] upon
[2:53:01] evaluation
[2:53:01] ma-check
[2:53:02] namin
[2:53:02] agad
[2:53:03] kung
[2:53:03] this
[2:53:04] can't
[2:53:04] stand
[2:53:05] yung
[2:53:05] preliminary
[2:53:06] investigation
[2:53:07] or
[2:53:07] pwede
[2:53:07] namin
[2:53:08] siyang
[2:53:08] i-refer
[2:53:08] for further
[2:53:09] pack
[2:53:09] finding
[2:53:10] unfortunately
[2:53:11] kasi
[2:53:11] pag
[2:53:11] i-refer
[2:53:12] mo siya
[2:53:12] sa
[2:53:12] pack
[2:53:13] finding
[2:53:13] dapat
[2:53:14] po talaga
[2:53:14] may
[2:53:15] verifiable
[2:53:15] leads
[2:53:16] at
[2:53:16] hindi
[2:53:16] hindi
[2:53:16] magkakandak
[2:53:17] lang
[2:53:17] ng
[2:53:17] fishing
[2:53:18] expedition
[2:53:18] ok
[2:53:19] yung
[2:53:20] sinasabi
[2:53:21] nitong
[2:53:22] labing
[2:53:22] walo
[2:53:22] na
[2:53:23] sila
[2:53:24] talaga
[2:53:24] nagdeliver
[2:53:25] ng
[2:53:25] pera
[2:53:25] at
[2:53:25] walang
[2:53:25] ebedensya
[2:53:26] kung talagang
[2:53:27] pera
[2:53:27] ba yung
[2:53:27] laman
[2:53:27] ng
[2:53:27] maleta
[2:53:28] at
[2:53:28] hindi
[2:53:29] naman
[2:53:29] sila
[2:53:29] mismo
[2:53:29] ang
[2:53:29] nagbilang
[2:53:30] ng
[2:53:30] pera
[2:53:31] at
[2:53:31] walang
[2:53:32] matibay
[2:53:32] na
[2:53:32] ebedensya
[2:53:33] na
[2:53:34] meron
[2:53:34] silang
[2:53:34] pinagdeliver
[2:53:35] ng
[2:53:35] tao
[2:53:35] kung
[2:53:35] sino
[2:53:36] man
[2:53:36] yung
[2:53:36] tao
[2:53:36] although
[2:53:36] we
[2:53:36] really
[2:53:37] need
[2:53:37] to
[2:53:37] know
[2:53:37] kung
[2:53:37] sino
[2:53:38] talaga
[2:53:38] dapat
[2:53:38] managot
[2:53:39] I've
[2:53:39] been
[2:53:40] saying
[2:53:40] that
[2:53:40] all
[2:53:40] along
[2:53:40] so
[2:53:41] paano
[2:53:42] magiging
[2:53:43] appreciation
[2:53:44] nyo
[2:53:44] doon
[2:53:44] sa
[2:53:45] affidavit
[2:53:46] ng taong
[2:53:47] sa
[2:53:48] labing
[2:53:48] walo
[2:53:50] your
[2:53:50] honor
[2:53:51] kung
[2:53:51] matanggap
[2:53:52] na
[2:53:52] namin
[2:53:52] halimbawa
[2:53:53] yung
[2:53:53] kanilang
[2:53:53] individual
[2:53:54] affidavit
[2:53:55] yung
[2:53:56] magsubmit
[2:53:56] na sila
[2:53:57] siguro
[2:53:58] po
[2:53:58] ang
[2:53:58] magiging
[2:53:59] ano
[2:53:59] namin
[2:53:59] is
[2:53:59] like
[2:54:00] I've
[2:54:00] said
[2:54:00] kung
[2:54:01] it
[2:54:01] can
[2:54:01] withstand
[2:54:02] po
[2:54:02] yung
[2:54:02] preliminary
[2:54:03] investigation
[2:54:04] kasi
[2:54:04] nga
[2:54:05] po
[2:54:05] meron
[2:54:07] na
[2:54:07] kaming
[2:54:07] bagong
[2:54:09] when it
[2:54:10] comes to
[2:54:11] preliminary
[2:54:12] investigation
[2:54:13] prima
[2:54:14] patch
[2:54:14] with
[2:54:15] reasonable
[2:54:15] certainty
[2:54:16] of
[2:54:16] conviction
[2:54:17] din po
[2:54:17] So
[2:54:19] kapag
[2:54:19] ang
[2:54:20] isang
[2:54:20] tao
[2:54:22] nag-issue
[2:54:22] an affidavit
[2:54:23] na
[2:54:23] nagpaiba-iba
[2:54:24] na ng
[2:54:24] statement
[2:54:26] at
[2:54:28] lumilitaw
[2:54:28] na
[2:54:29] wala pala
[2:54:29] siyang
[2:54:29] first-hand
[2:54:30] information
[2:54:30] kundi
[2:54:31] nakuha
[2:54:31] lang
[2:54:31] niya
[2:54:31] o
[2:54:32] na
[2:54:32] ipasa
[2:54:32] lang
[2:54:32] niya
[2:54:33] sa
[2:54:33] kanya
[2:54:34] yung
[2:54:34] information
[2:54:34] na
[2:54:34] yun
[2:54:34] so
[2:54:35] doon
[2:54:36] pa
[2:54:36] lamang
[2:54:37] magkakaroon
[2:54:37] na
[2:54:37] problema
[2:54:38] sa
[2:54:38] credibility
[2:54:39] yung
[2:54:40] nag-issue
[2:54:40] ng
[2:54:40] affidavit
[2:54:41] na
[2:54:41] yun
[2:54:41] sa
[2:54:42] ang
[2:54:42] words
[2:54:42] ma
[2:54:42] Your
[2:54:43] Honor
[2:54:44] kasi
[2:54:44] nga
[2:54:44] po
[2:54:44] lahat
[2:54:45] ng
[2:54:45] mga
[2:54:45] complaints
[2:54:46] in
[2:54:47] undergo
[2:54:48] yan
[2:54:48] ng
[2:54:48] evaluation
[2:54:49] so
[2:54:49] yung
[2:54:49] mga
[2:54:49] nag-evaluate
[2:54:50] po
[2:54:50] sa
[2:54:51] min
[2:54:51] are
[2:54:51] lawyer
[2:54:51] evaluators
[2:54:52] and
[2:54:53] then
[2:54:53] yung
[2:54:53] evaluation
[2:54:53] recommendation
[2:54:54] nila
[2:54:55] is
[2:54:55] subject
[2:54:56] to
[2:54:56] review
[2:54:56] and
[2:54:56] approval
[2:54:57] of
[2:54:57] our
[2:54:57] officials
[2:54:58] so
[2:54:58] based
[2:54:59] on
[2:54:59] I
[2:55:01] do not
[2:55:01] have
[2:55:01] any
[2:55:01] personal
[2:55:02] knowledge
[2:55:02] when
[2:55:02] it
[2:55:03] comes
[2:55:03] to
[2:55:03] the
[2:55:03] affidavit
[2:55:06] marines
[2:55:06] but
[2:55:06] I
[2:55:07] signed
[2:55:07] the
[2:55:08] notice
[2:55:08] address
[2:55:08] to
[2:55:09] attorney
[2:55:10] baligod
[2:55:11] that's
[2:55:11] why
[2:55:11] yun
[2:55:11] lang
[2:55:11] po
[2:55:12] binasa
[2:55:13] ko
[2:55:13] siyempre
[2:55:13] yung
[2:55:13] notice
[2:55:14] so
[2:55:14] ang
[2:55:14] nakalagay
[2:55:15] po
[2:55:15] dun
[2:55:15] sa
[2:55:15] notice
[2:55:16] nga
[2:55:16] dahil
[2:55:17] nga
[2:55:17] po
[2:55:17] hindi
[2:55:17] siya
[2:55:18] it
[2:55:19] cannot
[2:55:19] be
[2:55:19] considered
[2:55:20] personal
[2:55:20] knowledge
[2:55:21] na
[2:55:22] meron
[2:55:22] sila
[2:55:22] bawat
[2:55:23] isa
[2:55:23] dun
[2:55:23] sa
[2:55:23] 18
[2:55:24] personnel
[2:55:26] or
[2:55:26] people
[2:55:27] na
[2:55:27] yun
[2:55:27] so
[2:55:27] last
[2:55:28] na
[2:55:28] lamang
[2:55:29] on
[2:55:29] any
[2:55:33] merong
[2:55:36] nagsubmit
[2:55:36] ng
[2:55:37] complaint
[2:55:37] sa inyo
[2:55:38] with
[2:55:38] affidavit
[2:55:39] paano
[2:55:41] po
[2:55:42] approach
[2:55:42] yun
[2:55:42] once
[2:55:44] na
[2:55:44] receive
[2:55:44] yun
[2:55:45] yung
[2:55:45] isang
[2:55:45] affidavit
[2:55:46] against
[2:55:46] anybody
[2:55:47] your
[2:55:49] honor
[2:55:49] the
[2:55:50] usual
[2:55:50] process
[2:55:51] ano yung
[2:55:52] mga
[2:55:52] hinahanap
[2:55:53] nyo
[2:55:53] dun
[2:55:54] sa
[2:55:54] nagsubmit
[2:55:55] ng
[2:55:55] affidavit
[2:55:56] pag
[2:55:57] nagsubmit
[2:55:57] po yun
[2:55:57] ng
[2:55:58] affidavit
[2:55:58] or
[2:55:58] complaint
[2:55:59] affidavit
[2:56:00] sa
[2:56:00] min
[2:56:00] your
[2:56:00] honor
[2:56:00] dumadaan
[2:56:02] po
[2:56:02] muna
[2:56:02] yan
[2:56:02] sa
[2:56:02] verification
[2:56:03] to
[2:56:03] see
[2:56:03] kung
[2:56:04] meron
[2:56:04] siyang
[2:56:04] similar
[2:56:05] or
[2:56:07] complaint
[2:56:07] na
[2:56:07] so
[2:56:07] hindi
[2:56:08] siya
[2:56:09] mag
[2:56:09] doble
[2:56:09] doble
[2:56:10] so
[2:56:10] pag
[2:56:10] na-verify
[2:56:11] say
[2:56:12] wala
[2:56:12] siyang
[2:56:12] existing
[2:56:13] complaint
[2:56:13] or
[2:56:13] previous
[2:56:14] complaint
[2:56:14] similar
[2:56:15] complaint
[2:56:15] sa
[2:56:16] office
[2:56:16] of
[2:56:16] the
[2:56:16] ombudsman
[2:56:17] it
[2:56:17] will
[2:56:17] undergo
[2:56:18] evaluation
[2:56:18] okay
[2:56:19] doon
[2:56:20] sa
[2:56:20] evaluation
[2:56:20] maghanap
[2:56:21] ba
[2:56:22] kayo
[2:56:22] it
[2:56:23] will
[2:56:23] undergo
[2:56:24] evaluation
[2:56:24] okay
[2:56:25] doon
[2:56:26] sa
[2:56:26] evaluation
[2:56:26] maghanap
[2:56:27] ba
[2:56:28] kayo
[2:56:28] ng
[2:56:28] pieces
[2:56:30] of
[2:56:31] evidence
[2:56:31] hard
[2:56:31] evidence
[2:56:32] to
[2:56:33] corroborate
[2:56:34] doon
[2:56:35] sinasabi
[2:56:36] niya
[2:56:36] sa
[2:56:36] kanyang
[2:56:36] complaint
[2:56:37] affidavit
[2:56:38] pwede
[2:56:39] pong
[2:56:39] ganun
[2:56:39] your
[2:56:39] honor
[2:56:40] kasi
[2:56:40] one
[2:56:41] of
[2:56:41] the
[2:56:41] recommendations
[2:56:42] na
[2:56:42] pwedeng
[2:56:42] gawin
[2:56:43] ng
[2:56:43] lawyer
[2:56:43] evaluator
[2:56:44] is
[2:56:44] to
[2:56:44] dismiss
[2:56:44] it
[2:56:45] outright
[2:56:45] kung
[2:56:46] makita
[2:56:46] nyo
[2:56:46] na
[2:56:46] frivolous
[2:56:47] lang
[2:56:47] yung
[2:56:47] mga
[2:56:48] complaint
[2:56:48] So
[2:56:49] So
[2:56:49] in
[2:56:49] other
[2:56:50] words
[2:56:50] maghanap
[2:56:51] kayo
[2:56:52] ng
[2:56:52] ebidensya
[2:56:53] like
[2:56:54] I said
[2:56:55] earlier
[2:56:55] na
[2:56:56] mag
[2:56:56] corroborate
[2:56:56] doon
[2:56:57] sa
[2:56:57] sinasabi
[2:56:57] sa
[2:56:57] affidavit
[2:56:58] kasi
[2:56:58] kung
[2:56:58] hindi
[2:56:58] frivolous
[2:56:59] nga
[2:56:59] yun
[2:56:59] sabi
[2:56:59] mo
[2:57:00] Initial
[2:57:02] evaluation
[2:57:03] pa
[2:57:03] lang po
[2:57:03] yun
[2:57:04] your
[2:57:04] honor
[2:57:04] pero
[2:57:04] still
[2:57:05] in
[2:57:05] evaluate
[2:57:05] po
[2:57:06] namin
[2:57:06] siya
[2:57:06] kung
[2:57:07] yung
[2:57:07] sinasabi
[2:57:07] niya
[2:57:08] sa
[2:57:08] affidavit
[2:57:08] is
[2:57:09] supported
[2:57:09] by
[2:57:10] evidence
[2:57:10] So
[2:57:12] base
[2:57:13] po
[2:57:13] na
[2:57:13] sa
[2:57:13] mga
[2:57:13] narinig
[2:57:14] natin
[2:57:14] ngayon
[2:57:14] lahat
[2:57:15] doon
[2:57:15] sa
[2:57:15] sinabi
[2:57:15] ni
[2:57:16] director
[2:57:16] ng
[2:57:18] NBI
[2:57:18] na
[2:57:18] si
[2:57:19] attorney
[2:57:20] Melvin
[2:57:20] Matibag
[2:57:21] paano
[2:57:22] po
[2:57:22] madidescribe
[2:57:23] yung
[2:57:24] testimony
[2:57:26] o
[2:57:27] itong
[2:57:27] pinagsasabi
[2:57:28] nitong
[2:57:28] labing
[2:57:28] walong
[2:57:29] kargador
[2:57:30] Your
[2:57:32] Honor
[2:57:32] hindi
[2:57:33] ko
[2:57:33] po
[2:57:33] pwede
[2:57:33] sagutin
[2:57:34] yan
[2:57:34] because
[2:57:35] I
[2:57:35] did
[2:57:35] not
[2:57:35] evaluate
[2:57:36] that
[2:57:36] affidavit
[2:57:37] I
[2:57:38] understand
[2:57:38] Malaming
[2:57:38] salamat
[2:57:39] Mr.
[2:57:39] Chair
[2:57:39] Follow
[2:57:40] up
[2:57:40] question
[2:57:40] Mr.
[2:57:41] Chair
[2:57:41] Go ahead
[2:57:43] Senator
[2:57:43] Just a
[2:57:45] quick
[2:57:45] question
[2:57:46] at kinuha
[2:57:50] yung
[2:57:50] affidavit
[2:57:50] ni
[2:57:51] attorney
[2:57:51] Baligod
[2:57:52] Yung
[2:57:53] 18
[2:57:54] kargador
[2:57:57] in-interview
[2:57:58] po namin
[2:57:59] isa-isa
[2:57:59] Si attorney
[2:58:00] Baligod
[2:58:00] Hindi po
[2:58:01] kasi
[2:58:01] hindi
[2:58:01] naman
[2:58:02] po
[2:58:02] siya
[2:58:02] subject
[2:58:03] Actually
[2:58:04] gusto
[2:58:04] namin
[2:58:05] siya
[2:58:05] interview
[2:58:05] si
[2:58:06] Mike
[2:58:06] Defensor
[2:58:07] Ayaw
[2:58:07] nila
[2:58:08] Wala
[2:58:09] po
[2:58:09] kasi
[2:58:10] kaming
[2:58:10] content
[2:58:10] power
[2:58:11] to
[2:58:11] force
[2:58:11] them
[2:58:12] Kung
[2:58:12] na-monitor
[2:58:13] nyo
[2:58:13] yung
[2:58:13] hearing
[2:58:14] dito
[2:58:14] o
[2:58:14] yung
[2:58:15] bogus
[2:58:15] na
[2:58:15] hearing
[2:58:15] Siya
[2:58:16] ang
[2:58:16] nagpapaliwanag
[2:58:18] sa behalf
[2:58:20] of the
[2:58:21] Tama po
[2:58:23] nagtataka
[2:58:24] nga po
[2:58:24] kasi
[2:58:25] Sa ganun ba
[2:58:26] pag siya
[2:58:26] ang
[2:58:26] nagpapaliwanag
[2:58:28] ano yun
[2:58:28] hearsay?
[2:58:29] Well
[2:58:29] ang nangyari
[2:58:30] na nga po
[2:58:30] nyan
[2:58:31] it
[2:58:31] validates
[2:58:32] and strengthen
[2:58:33] the findings
[2:58:33] of NDI
[2:58:34] na
[2:58:35] mukhang
[2:58:35] kinote
[2:58:36] tinuro
[2:58:37] kasi
[2:58:37] ganito po
[2:58:38] yan
[2:58:38] in-approach
[2:58:39] siya
[2:58:39] yung
[2:58:39] 18
[2:58:39] actually
[2:58:40] 26
[2:58:41] nga po
[2:58:41] nung
[2:58:41] una
[2:58:41] yan
[2:58:42] naging
[2:58:42] 18
[2:58:43] tapos
[2:58:44] in-house
[2:58:45] niya
[2:58:45] mula
[2:58:46] November
[2:58:46] hanggang
[2:58:47] February
[2:58:47] at siya
[2:58:48] yung
[2:58:48] nagsulat
[2:58:50] nung
[2:58:50] Joint
[2:58:51] Apidabit
[2:58:51] at
[2:58:51] tama po
[2:58:52] Mr.
[2:58:53] Chairman
[2:58:53] nagtataka
[2:58:54] nga ako
[2:58:54] medyo
[2:58:55] marami-rami
[2:58:55] na rin po
[2:58:56] nga
[2:58:56] kung na-attend
[2:58:57] na committee
[2:58:58] hearing
[2:58:58] na kung saan
[2:58:59] ang abogado
[2:59:00] sa likod
[2:59:00] pinapopo
[2:59:01] at
[2:59:02] bihiram-bihiram
[2:59:03] pagsalitain
[2:59:03] yun po
[2:59:04] yung pinagtataka
[2:59:04] ko
[2:59:05] bakit si
[2:59:05] Atty.
[2:59:06] Balikod
[2:59:06] nagsasalita
[2:59:08] baka mas
[2:59:09] mabuti po
[2:59:09] para sa akin
[2:59:10] gumawa na rin
[2:59:11] po siya
[2:59:12] ng sarili
[2:59:12] niyang
[2:59:13] Apidabit
[2:59:13] at siya
[2:59:13] na po
[2:59:14] mismo
[2:59:14] magreklamo
[2:59:15] yun lang
[2:59:17] ang tanong ko
[2:59:17] actually
[2:59:18] kasi nga
[2:59:19] yun nakita ko
[2:59:19] siya mismo
[2:59:20] and you're right
[2:59:21] and for the record
[2:59:22] it's a violation
[2:59:23] of our rules
[2:59:24] in Senate
[2:59:27] proceedings
[2:59:27] when a lawyer
[2:59:28] speaks
[2:59:29] and
[2:59:29] deliberates
[2:59:32] on the
[2:59:33] and represents
[2:59:34] not representing
[2:59:36] the resource
[2:59:37] persons
[2:59:38] so doon
[2:59:39] maliwanag na
[2:59:40] hindi dapat
[2:59:40] nagsasalita
[2:59:41] yung abogado
[2:59:42] dapat
[2:59:43] yung resource
[2:59:44] persons
[2:59:44] mismo
[2:59:45] ang nagsasalita
[2:59:46] and for the record
[2:59:47] we just wanted
[2:59:47] that clarified
[2:59:48] Thank you
[2:59:50] Senator Kiko
[2:59:51] is it
[2:59:52] it's just
[2:59:52] one quick
[2:59:53] kasi we'll just
[2:59:54] have to
[2:59:54] give the floor
[2:59:56] to individuals
[2:59:57] who want to
[2:59:58] ask questions
[2:59:59] Yes Mr. Chair
[3:00:00] isang follow up
[3:00:00] question po
[3:00:01] Salamat Mr. Chair
[3:00:03] Follow up
[3:00:04] question
[3:00:04] kay Sen Rafi
[3:00:07] kanina
[3:00:08] sa ombudsman
[3:00:09] sa NBI
[3:00:10] naman po
[3:00:10] meron po bang
[3:00:12] mapopoint out
[3:00:13] ang bureau
[3:00:13] na inconsistent
[3:00:14] inconsistencies
[3:00:15] sa pagitan
[3:00:16] ng joint
[3:00:16] affidavit
[3:00:17] at yung limang
[3:00:18] individual
[3:00:19] affidavits
[3:00:20] na pinirmahan
[3:00:20] o sa pagitan
[3:00:22] ng limang
[3:00:23] individual
[3:00:23] affidavits
[3:00:24] any
[3:00:25] inconsistencies
[3:00:26] po
[3:00:26] Yun na nga po
[3:00:27] nagbigay na ko
[3:00:28] ng example
[3:00:28] mismo
[3:00:29] nung tinanong
[3:00:30] si Nabidad
[3:00:30] at isasabit po
[3:00:32] namin to
[3:00:33] itong mga
[3:00:34] aming interview
[3:00:34] tinanong siya
[3:00:35] kung nagdeliver
[3:00:36] siya ng maleta
[3:00:37] may deliver
[3:00:38] ba siyang maleta
[3:00:39] ang sabot niya
[3:00:39] wala
[3:00:40] pero dun sa
[3:00:41] kanilang mga
[3:00:41] joint affidavit
[3:00:42] may sinasabi
[3:00:43] Mr. Chair
[3:00:44] actually
[3:00:45] not only
[3:00:46] the affidavit
[3:00:47] na sinabit
[3:00:47] sa ombudsman
[3:00:48] yung pinagbasihan
[3:00:49] namin
[3:00:49] nakita rin po
[3:00:50] namin yung
[3:00:51] mga lumabas
[3:00:51] sa social media
[3:00:52] na unang
[3:00:53] affidavit
[3:00:54] at saka po
[3:00:55] yung testimonya
[3:00:56] po nung nakaraan
[3:00:56] dito
[3:00:57] at nakita na po
[3:00:58] namin yung
[3:00:59] mga inconsistencies
[3:01:00] in fact
[3:01:00] gumawa po kami
[3:01:01] ng parang
[3:01:02] diagram
[3:01:03] dyan
[3:01:03] nakalagay na po
[3:01:04] dyan
[3:01:04] ito yung
[3:01:05] affidavit
[3:01:05] dito
[3:01:06] ito yung
[3:01:06] lumabas
[3:01:06] at ano
[3:01:07] yung
[3:01:07] inconsistencies
[3:01:08] that will
[3:01:09] be part
[3:01:09] of our
[3:01:10] submission
[3:01:10] to the
[3:01:10] committee
[3:01:11] Mr. Chair
[3:01:11] all right
[3:01:12] thank you
[3:01:12] thank you
[3:01:14] director
[3:01:15] of the
[3:01:16] NBI
[3:01:16] maraming
[3:01:16] salamat
[3:01:17] committee
[3:01:18] secretary
[3:01:18] can you
[3:01:21] put this
[3:01:22] on record
[3:01:22] the
[3:01:25] blue ribbon
[3:01:26] committee
[3:01:28] to go
[3:01:29] upstairs
[3:01:30] office
[3:01:30] po
[3:01:30] ni
[3:01:30] senator
[3:01:31] robin
[3:01:32] padilla
[3:01:32] para
[3:01:33] to inquire
[3:01:34] the good
[3:01:35] senator
[3:01:36] kung
[3:01:37] sasamahan
[3:01:38] niya
[3:01:38] ba
[3:01:38] yung
[3:01:39] 18
[3:01:40] bodyguards
[3:01:41] dito
[3:01:41] sa
[3:01:42] blue ribbon
[3:01:43] hearing
[3:01:43] that's
[3:01:44] just to
[3:01:44] put on
[3:01:45] record
[3:01:45] para
[3:01:45] ika
[3:01:46] nga
[3:01:46] mas
[3:01:46] maayos
[3:01:47] po
[3:01:47] dahil
[3:01:48] while
[3:01:48] we're
[3:01:48] conducting
[3:01:49] this
[3:01:49] hearing
[3:01:49] ongoing
[3:01:50] din po
[3:01:51] yung
[3:01:51] press
[3:01:51] conference
[3:01:52] po
[3:01:52] doon
[3:01:52] sa
[3:01:53] taas
[3:01:53] so
[3:01:54] might
[3:01:54] as
[3:01:54] well
[3:01:55] bumaba
[3:01:56] na lang
[3:01:56] sila
[3:01:57] dito
[3:01:57] para
[3:01:57] ika
[3:01:58] nga
[3:01:58] may lahat
[3:01:59] nila
[3:01:59] yung
[3:01:59] matanong
[3:02:01] po
[3:02:01] natin
[3:02:01] sila
[3:02:01] maayos
[3:02:02] and
[3:02:03] like
[3:02:03] dito
[3:02:03] na
[3:02:03] puro
[3:02:04] press
[3:02:04] conference
[3:02:05] po
[3:02:05] sila
[3:02:06] so
[3:02:06] committee
[3:02:06] secretary
[3:02:07] i'm
[3:02:07] directing
[3:02:07] you
[3:02:07] to
[3:02:08] send
[3:02:09] one
[3:02:09] of
[3:02:09] your
[3:02:09] staff
[3:02:10] or
[3:02:10] your
[3:02:10] personnel
[3:02:15] if
[3:02:15] they're
[3:02:15] still
[3:02:16] interested
[3:02:16] coming
[3:02:17] down
[3:02:17] here
[3:02:17] sa
[3:02:18] blue
[3:02:18] ribbon
[3:02:18] hearing
[3:02:19] po
[3:02:20] natin
[3:02:20] para
[3:02:21] malinaw
[3:02:21] po
[3:02:21] on
[3:02:22] record
[3:02:22] lahat
[3:02:22] hindi
[3:02:22] po
[3:02:23] yung
[3:02:23] bisita
[3:02:24] po
[3:02:24] natin
[3:02:25] ni
[3:02:25] senator
[3:02:25] robin
[3:02:26] na
[3:02:26] padilla
[3:02:26] yung
[3:02:26] labing
[3:02:27] walong
[3:02:27] bodyguard
[3:02:28] na
[3:02:28] yun
[3:02:29] at
[3:02:29] si
[3:02:29] attorney
[3:02:29] baligod
[3:02:30] at
[3:02:31] nagbibigay
[3:02:32] na sa
[3:02:32] fifth
[3:02:32] floor
[3:02:32] nagbibigay
[3:02:33] po
[3:02:33] ng
[3:02:33] press
[3:02:33] conference
[3:02:34] ang
[3:02:35] nagtatanong
[3:02:35] lamang
[3:02:36] po
[3:02:36] ang
[3:02:36] media
[3:02:36] and
[3:02:37] and
[3:02:37] and
[3:02:37] dito
[3:02:37] po
[3:02:37] tayo
[3:02:38] lahat
[3:02:38] gusto
[3:02:38] po
[3:02:38] natin
[3:02:39] silang
[3:02:39] matanong
[3:02:39] at
[3:02:40] marinig
[3:02:40] ito
[3:02:41] po
[3:02:41] siguro
[3:02:41] ang
[3:02:41] tamang
[3:02:42] venue
[3:02:43] na
[3:02:44] ika
[3:02:44] nga
[3:02:45] magpahayag
[3:02:45] sila
[3:02:45] hindi
[3:02:46] po
[3:02:46] sa
[3:02:46] isang
[3:02:46] media
[3:02:47] conference
[3:02:48] so
[3:02:48] committee
[3:02:48] secretary
[3:02:49] go ahead
[3:02:50] and send
[3:02:50] someone
[3:02:51] to
[3:02:51] the
[3:02:52] office
[3:02:52] of
[3:02:52] senator
[3:02:53] robin
[3:02:54] okay
[3:02:54] let's
[3:02:54] move
[3:02:55] on
[3:02:55] yung
[3:02:56] order
[3:02:57] of
[3:02:57] arrival
[3:02:57] po
[3:02:58] ng
[3:02:58] question
[3:02:59] senator
[3:02:59] jv
[3:03:00] senator
[3:03:01] bomb
[3:03:01] and
[3:03:02] senator
[3:03:04] jv
[3:03:05] senator
[3:03:05] bomb
[3:03:06] senator
[3:03:06] risa
[3:03:07] senator
[3:03:07] soto
[3:03:08] but
[3:03:11] before
[3:03:11] that
[3:03:12] may
[3:03:12] tatanong
[3:03:13] po
[3:03:13] yan
[3:03:13] si
[3:03:13] senate
[3:03:14] pro
[3:03:14] tempore
[3:03:15] gatchel
[3:03:16] yan
[3:03:17] maraming
[3:03:17] salamat
[3:03:17] mc
[3:03:18] chairman
[3:03:18] this
[3:03:19] is
[3:03:19] directed
[3:03:20] to
[3:03:20] attorney
[3:03:22] matibag
[3:03:22] director
[3:03:23] of
[3:03:23] the
[3:03:23] nbi
[3:03:24] meron
[3:03:25] kayong
[3:03:26] mga
[3:03:26] nasabi
[3:03:28] sa
[3:03:28] media
[3:03:29] na
[3:03:29] merong
[3:03:29] informant
[3:03:30] actually
[3:03:31] tutuloy
[3:03:31] ko
[3:03:31] lang
[3:03:31] po
[3:03:31] yung
[3:03:32] tanong
[3:03:33] ni
[3:03:33] senator
[3:03:34] rafi
[3:03:35] na
[3:03:35] meron
[3:03:35] kayong
[3:03:36] informant
[3:03:36] na
[3:03:37] nagsabi
[3:03:38] si
[3:03:39] Mike
[3:03:39] Defensor
[3:03:40] ay
[3:03:40] nag-offer
[3:03:41] ng
[3:03:41] 5
[3:03:41] million
[3:03:42] pesos
[3:03:42] dito
[3:03:43] sa
[3:03:43] 18
[3:03:44] bodyguards
[3:03:45] can you
[3:03:46] give us
[3:03:46] a narration
[3:03:47] of that
[3:03:48] and
[3:03:48] base
[3:03:50] sa inyong
[3:03:51] statement
[3:03:51] meron rin
[3:03:52] sinumpaang
[3:03:52] salay
[3:03:53] sa ito
[3:03:53] meron
[3:03:56] meron po
[3:03:56] kasi
[3:03:56] kaming
[3:03:56] sa
[3:03:57] NBI
[3:03:57] we
[3:03:58] function
[3:03:58] na
[3:03:58] meron
[3:03:59] mga
[3:03:59] tinatawag
[3:04:00] kaming
[3:04:00] alipower
[3:04:00] assets
[3:04:01] na
[3:04:02] nag-gather
[3:04:03] po
[3:04:03] ng mga
[3:04:04] intelligence
[3:04:04] support
[3:04:05] yan
[3:04:05] so
[3:04:06] he came
[3:04:07] across
[3:04:07] dito
[3:04:07] sa
[3:04:08] parang
[3:04:08] hindi
[3:04:09] po
[3:04:09] son
[3:04:09] in-law
[3:04:10] talaga
[3:04:10] but
[3:04:10] he
[3:04:11] is
[3:04:11] a
[3:04:11] partner
[3:04:11] of
[3:04:12] the
[3:04:12] daughter
[3:04:12] nung
[3:04:13] isa
[3:04:13] sa
[3:04:14] 18
[3:04:16] bodyguards
[3:04:18] I think
[3:04:19] siguro
[3:04:19] for
[3:04:20] purposes
[3:04:21] na
[3:04:21] mas malinaw
[3:04:23] pwede ko
[3:04:24] na rin
[3:04:24] siguro
[3:04:24] bangitin
[3:04:25] yung
[3:04:25] pangalan
[3:04:26] total
[3:04:26] napadala
[3:04:27] naman
[3:04:27] namin
[3:04:27] siya
[3:04:27] ng
[3:04:28] pangalan
[3:04:30] si
[3:04:30] Anselmo
[3:04:31] Taberdo
[3:04:32] yung isa
[3:04:33] sa Marines
[3:04:33] may anak
[3:04:35] siya
[3:04:36] at partner
[3:04:36] niya
[3:04:36] itong
[3:04:37] nakausap
[3:04:39] ng ating
[3:04:39] mga
[3:04:39] ahente
[3:04:40] at
[3:04:40] nagpahayag
[3:04:41] siya
[3:04:42] ng malayang
[3:04:42] pahayag
[3:04:43] recorded
[3:04:43] din po
[3:04:43] ito
[3:04:44] noong
[3:04:45] April
[3:04:45] 28
[3:04:46] and I
[3:04:46] will
[3:04:47] also
[3:04:47] submit
[3:04:47] na
[3:04:49] yung
[3:04:49] parang
[3:04:50] Salaysay
[3:04:51] niya
[3:04:51] na kanyang
[3:04:52] pinirmahan
[3:04:52] malayang
[3:04:53] pinirmahan
[3:04:53] na ang
[3:04:54] sinasabi
[3:04:55] po rito
[3:04:55] sa Salaysay
[3:04:56] na
[3:04:57] itong si
[3:04:58] Anselmo
[3:04:58] Taberdo
[3:04:59] ay isa
[3:05:00] sa mga
[3:05:00] dun sa
[3:05:01] labing
[3:05:01] walo
[3:05:01] na in-approach
[3:05:03] ng grupo
[3:05:03] ni Mike
[3:05:04] Defensor
[3:05:04] at pinangakuan
[3:05:05] ng 5
[3:05:06] milyong
[3:05:07] piso
[3:05:07] kapalit
[3:05:08] ng
[3:05:08] pagsasalita
[3:05:09] ang sinabi
[3:05:11] malino pa nga po
[3:05:12] sinabi
[3:05:12] mag-aapir
[3:05:13] sa media
[3:05:13] at
[3:05:14] magkakaroon
[3:05:16] ng
[3:05:16] testimonya
[3:05:17] so
[3:05:17] dun po
[3:05:19] ang pangako
[3:05:19] 5
[3:05:20] milyon
[3:05:20] at kaya
[3:05:20] po binabanggit
[3:05:21] niya
[3:05:21] ito
[3:05:21] personal
[3:05:22] sa kanya
[3:05:22] sinabi
[3:05:23] niya
[3:05:23] na silang
[3:05:24] mag-a-partner
[3:05:25] may anak
[3:05:25] po silang
[3:05:26] isa
[3:05:26] ay pinangakuan
[3:05:27] ng
[3:05:27] 500,000
[3:05:29] para
[3:05:29] makapag-negosyo
[3:05:30] sila
[3:05:31] so
[3:05:31] ngayon
[3:05:32] nung tinatanong
[3:05:33] yung
[3:05:33] 500,000
[3:05:34] dun po
[3:05:34] na ikwento
[3:05:35] na
[3:05:35] ang
[3:05:36] naibibigay
[3:05:37] pa lang
[3:05:37] daw
[3:05:37] ay
[3:05:38] 700,000
[3:05:39] pero
[3:05:39] eventually
[3:05:40] bumalik
[3:05:41] po siya
[3:05:41] nung
[3:05:42] May 6
[3:05:43] sa aming
[3:05:44] pong
[3:05:44] tanggapan
[3:05:44] para
[3:05:45] magdagdag
[3:05:45] pa ng
[3:05:46] kanyang
[3:05:46] testimonya
[3:05:47] at
[3:05:47] nilinaw
[3:05:48] niya
[3:05:51] 350,000
[3:05:53] pa lang
[3:05:53] yung
[3:05:54] nabigay
[3:05:54] at
[3:05:55] utay-utay
[3:05:55] pa po
[3:05:56] itong
[3:05:56] naibigay
[3:05:57] so
[3:05:57] nung pong
[3:05:58] magkakaroon
[3:05:59] ng
[3:05:59] sila
[3:06:01] nagpatawag
[3:06:02] dito
[3:06:02] nung
[3:06:02] June
[3:06:03] na
[3:06:03] yung
[3:06:03] pagdinig
[3:06:04] po nila
[3:06:05] rito
[3:06:05] we
[3:06:06] contact
[3:06:06] itong
[3:06:06] persona
[3:06:07] ito
[3:06:07] to
[3:06:07] validate
[3:06:08] ulit
[3:06:08] at
[3:06:09] katunayan
[3:06:10] sinusurveilas
[3:06:11] at sinusundan
[3:06:12] ba rin
[3:06:12] naman po
[3:06:12] namin
[3:06:13] siya
[3:06:13] kasi
[3:06:14] nga po
[3:06:14] kakaibat
[3:06:15] dito
[3:06:15] nagpadala
[3:06:16] lang kami
[3:06:16] ng
[3:06:17] sabpina
[3:06:17] kay
[3:06:17] Mike
[3:06:18] Defensor
[3:06:19] at
[3:06:19] Anselmo
[3:06:20] Taberdo
[3:06:21] para
[3:06:21] pagbigay
[3:06:22] lino po
[3:06:23] dito sa
[3:06:23] testimonya
[3:06:24] nitong
[3:06:24] tao
[3:06:25] na ito
[3:06:25] yun po
[3:06:26] yung sinasabi
[3:06:26] natin
[3:06:27] Mr.
[3:06:27] Chair
[3:06:28] na lahat
[3:06:28] po
[3:06:28] ng
[3:06:29] papasok
[3:06:29] na
[3:06:29] ebidensya
[3:06:30] sa amin
[3:06:30] sa NBI
[3:06:31] ay binibigyang
[3:06:31] halaga
[3:06:32] namin
[3:06:32] at amin
[3:06:33] sinusundan
[3:06:33] Director
[3:06:35] itong
[3:06:36] can you
[3:06:36] state
[3:06:37] the name
[3:06:37] of this
[3:06:38] informant
[3:06:38] is it
[3:06:38] possible
[3:06:39] sabihin
[3:06:41] yung
[3:06:41] kanyang
[3:06:42] pangalan
[3:06:43] well
[3:06:43] pangalan
[3:06:44] po niya
[3:06:44] si
[3:06:44] Brett
[3:06:45] Ragasa
[3:06:45] siya
[3:06:47] 28
[3:06:47] years
[3:06:47] old
[3:06:48] Fred
[3:06:49] Ragasa
[3:06:51] Pwede rin
[3:06:56] po ba
[3:06:57] siyang
[3:06:57] dalin
[3:06:57] dito
[3:06:58] para
[3:06:58] magbigay
[3:06:58] ng
[3:06:59] personal
[3:06:59] testimony?
[3:06:59] yun po
[3:06:59] ang
[3:07:00] pinapavalidate
[3:07:01] namin
[3:07:01] kasi
[3:07:02] tinatawagan
[3:07:03] ang huling
[3:07:03] pakikipag-usap
[3:07:04] po sa aming
[3:07:05] mga
[3:07:05] investigador
[3:07:07] ay tinatawagan
[3:07:08] siya ngayon
[3:07:08] ito ni
[3:07:09] Anselmo
[3:07:09] Taberdo
[3:07:11] Is he
[3:07:11] willing to
[3:07:12] come here
[3:07:12] to give
[3:07:13] his testimony?
[3:07:13] Alamin po
[3:07:14] namin
[3:07:14] yun po
[3:07:15] itanong
[3:07:15] namin
[3:07:15] dahil
[3:07:16] nung po
[3:07:16] siya
[3:07:16] kinuhuhan
[3:07:19] na namin
[3:07:19] ulit
[3:07:19] ng
[3:07:19] testimony
[3:07:20] mukhang
[3:07:22] sumasabay
[3:07:22] na tinatawagan
[3:07:23] Ano ang
[3:07:24] motibo
[3:07:25] naman
[3:07:25] itong
[3:07:26] taong
[3:07:26] to?
[3:07:28] Gusto
[3:07:29] ko
[3:07:29] malaman
[3:07:29] bakit
[3:07:30] siya
[3:07:30] biglang
[3:07:30] nagbigay
[3:07:33] ng
[3:07:33] ganitong
[3:07:34] information
[3:07:35] considering
[3:07:35] na parang
[3:07:36] son-in-law
[3:07:37] siya?
[3:07:38] Tinitingnan po
[3:07:39] namin
[3:07:39] base sa
[3:07:39] kwento
[3:07:40] niya
[3:07:40] mukhang
[3:07:40] meron
[3:07:41] ng
[3:07:41] diferensya
[3:07:41] yung
[3:07:42] magka-partner
[3:07:42] at siya
[3:07:43] ngayon
[3:07:44] yung
[3:07:44] may
[3:07:44] dala
[3:07:44] dun
[3:07:44] sa
[3:07:44] anak
[3:07:45] niya
[3:07:46] so
[3:07:46] parang
[3:07:46] may
[3:07:46] personal
[3:07:47] reason
[3:07:47] po
[3:07:48] na
[3:07:48] tungkol
[3:07:48] dun
[3:07:49] sa
[3:07:49] kanilang
[3:07:49] relasyon
[3:07:50] at
[3:07:50] maaari
[3:07:50] yung
[3:07:51] isang
[3:07:51] dahilan
[3:07:51] pinag-iisipan
[3:07:53] hindi dumating
[3:07:53] yung
[3:07:54] talagang
[3:07:54] pangako
[3:07:55] na
[3:07:55] 500,000
[3:07:56] bilang
[3:07:56] parte
[3:07:57] dun sa
[3:07:57] makukuha
[3:07:58] dapat
[3:07:58] na
[3:07:59] 5
[3:07:59] milyong
[3:07:59] piso
[3:08:00] yung
[3:08:01] parang
[3:08:01] may
[3:08:01] because
[3:08:02] of
[3:08:03] that
[3:08:03] personal
[3:08:03] circumstance
[3:08:04] nagsalita
[3:08:06] siya
[3:08:07] doon
[3:08:07] and
[3:08:08] based
[3:08:08] on
[3:08:09] your
[3:08:09] analysis
[3:08:09] itong
[3:08:10] informant
[3:08:11] is a
[3:08:11] credible
[3:08:12] witness
[3:08:14] itong
[3:08:15] si
[3:08:15] Ragasa
[3:08:16] si
[3:08:16] Mr.
[3:08:16] Ragasa
[3:08:17] pag
[3:08:17] binalidate
[3:08:18] po
[3:08:18] yung
[3:08:18] personal
[3:08:19] circumstances
[3:08:19] at
[3:08:20] relationship
[3:08:20] maaari
[3:08:21] po
[3:08:21] talagang
[3:08:21] napagkwentuhan
[3:08:22] doon na
[3:08:23] nga
[3:08:23] po
[3:08:23] Mr.
[3:08:24] Chair
[3:08:24] pumapasok
[3:08:25] yung
[3:08:25] aming
[3:08:25] kagustuhan
[3:08:26] na ipatawag
[3:08:27] si
[3:08:27] Anselmo
[3:08:28] Taberdo
[3:08:28] at si
[3:08:29] Mike
[3:08:29] Defensor
[3:08:30] para po
[3:08:31] mas pabigyang
[3:08:31] linaw
[3:08:32] yung testimony
[3:08:32] yung
[3:08:33] ibinibigay
[3:08:33] po
[3:08:33] nitong
[3:08:34] tao
[3:08:34] na ito
[3:08:36] Base
[3:08:36] ba
[3:08:37] doon
[3:08:37] sa
[3:08:37] information
[3:08:38] na
[3:08:38] consummate
[3:08:39] ba
[3:08:39] itong
[3:08:39] 5
[3:08:40] million
[3:08:40] na
[3:08:40] ibigay
[3:08:41] ba
[3:08:41] Hindi
[3:08:41] pa
[3:08:41] po
[3:08:42] lumalabas
[3:08:42] po
[3:08:42] sa
[3:08:43] huling
[3:08:43] statement
[3:08:43] 350
[3:08:44] 350
[3:08:45] pa
[3:08:45] lang
[3:08:45] po
[3:08:45] yung
[3:08:45] kabuhang
[3:08:46] natatanggap
[3:08:46] pero
[3:08:47] may
[3:08:47] mga
[3:08:48] kwinento
[3:08:49] pa
[3:08:49] po
[3:08:49] siya
[3:08:49] na
[3:08:49] siya
[3:08:50] yung
[3:08:51] mga
[3:08:51] lugar
[3:08:52] kaya
[3:08:52] po
[3:08:53] nagkaroon
[3:08:53] ng
[3:08:53] credibility
[3:08:54] sinunda
[3:08:54] namin
[3:08:55] yung
[3:08:55] mga
[3:08:55] lugar
[3:08:55] na
[3:08:55] binabanggit
[3:08:56] kung
[3:08:56] nasaan
[3:08:57] yung
[3:08:57] 18
[3:08:58] e
[3:08:58] tumutog
[3:08:59] ma
[3:08:59] po
[3:08:59] sa
[3:08:59] kanyang
[3:09:00] story
[3:09:00] And
[3:09:02] nasaan
[3:09:03] na itong
[3:09:03] taong
[3:09:04] to?
[3:09:04] Is he
[3:09:04] under
[3:09:05] NBI
[3:09:06] custody?
[3:09:07] Wala po
[3:09:07] sa aming
[3:09:07] custody
[3:09:08] pero
[3:09:08] alam
[3:09:10] po
[3:09:10] namin
[3:09:10] kung sa
[3:09:11] siya
[3:09:11] nakatira
[3:09:12] dati
[3:09:12] pong
[3:09:12] nasa
[3:09:12] tagig
[3:09:13] lumipat
[3:09:13] po
[3:09:13] ng
[3:09:13] tirahan
[3:09:14] at
[3:09:14] amin
[3:09:14] po
[3:09:14] siyang
[3:09:15] minamanmanan
[3:09:15] po
[3:09:16] nakasurveillance
[3:09:17] And then
[3:09:18] gusto ko
[3:09:19] lang po
[3:09:19] rin
[3:09:19] matanong
[3:09:20] itong
[3:09:20] informant
[3:09:22] na ito
[3:09:22] nag
[3:09:23] appear
[3:09:26] personally
[3:09:27] sa
[3:09:28] NBI?
[3:09:28] Opo
[3:09:29] dalawang
[3:09:29] beses
[3:09:30] po
[3:09:30] Katunayan
[3:09:31] nung isang
[3:09:31] beses
[3:09:32] nagpunta
[3:09:32] siya
[3:09:32] mayroon
[3:09:33] pang
[3:09:33] isang
[3:09:33] media
[3:09:33] personality
[3:09:34] na
[3:09:34] nakapang
[3:09:35] cover
[3:09:35] po
[3:09:35] sa
[3:09:35] kanya
[3:09:36] at
[3:09:36] recorded
[3:09:36] po
[3:09:37] lahat
[3:09:37] ang
[3:09:38] kanya
[3:09:38] pong
[3:09:38] pagdalo
[3:09:38] sa
[3:09:39] NBI
[3:09:39] po
[3:09:39] Pasabit
[3:09:40] na
[3:09:40] lang
[3:09:40] sa
[3:09:40] committee
[3:09:41] rin
[3:09:41] yung
[3:09:41] confidence
[3:09:43] I know
[3:09:43] this
[3:09:43] is a
[3:09:44] confidential
[3:09:44] matter
[3:09:45] for
[3:09:46] yung
[3:09:47] pasubit
[3:09:49] na lang
[3:09:49] sa amin
[3:09:49] yung
[3:09:49] video
[3:09:50] as well
[3:09:50] as
[3:09:51] yung
[3:09:51] transcripts
[3:09:52] nung
[3:09:52] interview
[3:09:53] we'll
[3:09:53] comply
[3:09:54] po
[3:09:54] para
[3:09:54] we can
[3:09:54] look at
[3:09:58] it
[3:09:59] and then
[3:09:59] balikan ko
[3:10:01] lang kanina
[3:10:01] yung
[3:10:01] presentation
[3:10:02] director
[3:10:03] based on
[3:10:04] your
[3:10:04] analysis
[3:10:05] doon
[3:10:06] sa mga
[3:10:07] sinumpaang
[3:10:08] salaysay
[3:10:09] nung
[3:10:09] 18
[3:10:10] bodyguards
[3:10:10] anong
[3:10:12] analysis
[3:10:12] nyo
[3:10:13] bottom
[3:10:14] line
[3:10:14] kasi
[3:10:16] nakita
[3:10:16] kung marami
[3:10:17] kayong
[3:10:17] standards
[3:10:18] na sinusundan
[3:10:18] and these
[3:10:19] are legal
[3:10:19] standards
[3:10:20] na ayon
[3:10:20] sa batas
[3:10:21] but based
[3:10:22] on your
[3:10:22] analysis
[3:10:23] ano ang
[3:10:24] itong
[3:10:24] itong
[3:10:24] kanilang
[3:10:25] mga
[3:10:25] sinumpaang
[3:10:25] salaysay
[3:10:26] ano ang
[3:10:28] inyong
[3:10:28] analysis
[3:10:29] dito
[3:10:29] well
[3:10:29] unang
[3:10:30] una
[3:10:30] po
[3:10:30] yung
[3:10:31] pinagsamang
[3:10:32] sinumpaang
[3:10:32] salaysay
[3:10:33] nila
[3:10:33] na isinumiti
[3:10:34] sa
[3:10:34] ombudsman
[3:10:35] meryo
[3:10:36] marami
[3:10:37] pong
[3:10:37] kaduda
[3:10:37] duda
[3:10:38] sabi ko
[3:10:38] nga
[3:10:38] kung
[3:10:39] meron
[3:10:39] pong
[3:10:39] katotohanan
[3:10:41] doon
[3:10:41] at
[3:10:41] hindi
[3:10:41] base
[3:10:42] sa
[3:10:42] jersey
[3:10:42] mga
[3:10:42] 10
[3:10:47] pananaw
[3:10:54] na ito
[3:10:55] ay hindi
[3:10:55] namin
[3:10:56] maaaring
[3:10:56] magamit
[3:10:57] para
[3:10:57] magsampan
[3:10:58] ang kaso
[3:10:58] doon
[3:10:58] sa mga
[3:10:59] taong
[3:10:59] nabanggit
[3:11:00] at
[3:11:01] higit
[3:11:02] pa po
[3:11:02] dyan
[3:11:02] lumalabas
[3:11:03] na talagang
[3:11:04] mukhang
[3:11:04] sinulat
[3:11:06] at
[3:11:06] kinotes
[3:11:07] corroborated
[3:11:09] po yung
[3:11:09] pagsusulat
[3:11:10] nitong
[3:11:11] pinagsamang
[3:11:12] sinumpang
[3:11:13] salaysay
[3:11:13] in addition
[3:11:14] to this
[3:11:15] tinignan
[3:11:15] po namin
[3:11:15] yung mga
[3:11:16] pronouncements
[3:11:17] sa media
[3:11:17] sa social
[3:11:18] media
[3:11:19] yung unang
[3:11:19] mga
[3:11:20] lumabas
[3:11:20] na pinagsamang
[3:11:21] sinumpang
[3:11:21] salaysay
[3:11:22] marami pong
[3:11:24] inconsistency
[3:11:24] masyado
[3:11:25] na magiging
[3:11:26] problema
[3:11:26] pag amin
[3:11:27] inakyat
[3:11:28] sa prosecution
[3:11:29] at pati
[3:11:30] na rin
[3:11:30] sa korte
[3:11:31] kung
[3:11:31] ito
[3:11:32] ay tatayo
[3:11:32] And
[3:11:35] kung
[3:11:35] ganun
[3:11:37] meron bang
[3:11:38] violation
[3:11:39] of the law
[3:11:40] na ginawa
[3:11:41] itong mga
[3:11:41] taong ito
[3:11:43] meron silang
[3:11:45] sinumpang
[3:11:46] salaysay
[3:11:47] pumunta ba
[3:11:47] sila
[3:11:47] sa NBI
[3:11:48] to personally
[3:11:49] give the
[3:11:50] statement
[3:11:51] or meron ba
[3:11:53] silang personal
[3:11:53] narration
[3:11:54] sa NBI
[3:11:54] sinumpina po
[3:11:55] namin sila
[3:11:56] pumunta po sila
[3:11:57] yung una
[3:11:58] ayaw nilang
[3:11:58] magbigay
[3:11:59] ng pahayag
[3:12:00] so binigyan po
[3:12:01] namin
[3:12:01] ng pangalawang
[3:12:02] pagkakataon
[3:12:03] kasama po
[3:12:04] sa sinumpina
[3:12:04] dyan nga
[3:12:05] sila
[3:12:05] yung
[3:12:06] mga may kinalaman
[3:12:07] si Bishop
[3:12:07] Efren Tendero
[3:12:09] si Mike Defensor
[3:12:11] yung asawa po
[3:12:13] yung asawa po
[3:12:13] ni Mike Defensor
[3:12:14] mga ilang
[3:12:15] personalities po
[3:12:16] pero
[3:12:17] hindi po
[3:12:18] nagbigay
[3:12:19] ng testimonya
[3:12:20] yung iba
[3:12:20] nung bumalik po
[3:12:21] sila
[3:12:22] yung pong
[3:12:23] labing walo
[3:12:24] nagbigay po
[3:12:25] ng testimonya
[3:12:26] nila
[3:12:26] pero
[3:12:26] dun po
[3:12:26] sa labing walo
[3:12:27] lima lamang po
[3:12:28] ang pumirma
[3:12:30] Mr. Chair
[3:12:30] yung labing tatlo
[3:12:31] po
[3:12:31] pinigilan
[3:12:32] ni
[3:12:32] Atty.
[3:12:33] Balikod
[3:12:34] na pirmahan
[3:12:34] at gusto niya
[3:12:35] ay kanya munang
[3:12:36] reviewin
[3:12:37] yung naging mga
[3:12:38] statement
[3:12:38] nung labing walo
[3:12:39] nagkaroon pa nga po
[3:12:41] ng isidente
[3:12:41] na gusto po niti
[3:12:42] ni Atty.
[3:12:44] Balikod
[3:12:44] yung mga testimonya
[3:12:46] nung mga
[3:12:47] labing walong
[3:12:48] bodyguards
[3:12:50] na hindi naman po
[3:12:51] natin pinayagan
[3:12:52] kaya meron po
[3:12:53] kaming hawak
[3:12:53] na limang
[3:12:54] yung interview po
[3:12:56] alam nyo po
[3:12:56] yung parang blatter
[3:12:57] na question and answer
[3:12:58] na pirmahan po
[3:12:59] nung lima
[3:13:00] yung labing tatlo
[3:13:01] hindi na po po
[3:13:01] meron ma
[3:13:02] I would assume
[3:13:03] na kung
[3:13:04] buoy yung loob mo
[3:13:05] magbigay ng testimonya
[3:13:07] pupunta ka doon
[3:13:07] magbigay ka testimonya
[3:13:08] permahan mo
[3:13:10] Tama po yan
[3:13:11] Mr. Chairman
[3:13:11] How come
[3:13:12] mayroon pang
[3:13:12] commotion and drama
[3:13:13] na nangyari
[3:13:14] na may pupunitin
[3:13:15] at hindi pumerma lahat?
[3:13:17] Marahe pong drama
[3:13:18] nangyari
[3:13:18] yung unang patawag pa lang
[3:13:20] ano po
[3:13:20] actually
[3:13:21] yung unang patawag pa lang
[3:13:22] po mas mahaba pa
[3:13:23] yung naging salita
[3:13:24] ni Mike Defensor
[3:13:25] at ang kanyang abogado
[3:13:26] sa media ng MBI
[3:13:27] kesa po
[3:13:28] makipag-usap
[3:13:29] ng maayos
[3:13:29] sa aming mga
[3:13:30] investigador
[3:13:31] at
[3:13:31] illegally
[3:13:33] binidio-capture nila
[3:13:34] yung
[3:13:34] pag-iimbestiga
[3:13:36] tapos inilabas nila
[3:13:37] sa media
[3:13:38] so may mga
[3:13:39] behavior po na ganun
[3:13:40] pero ang naging
[3:13:41] instruction po natin
[3:13:42] doon sa ating
[3:13:43] mga investigador
[3:13:43] is to exercise
[3:13:45] maximum tolerance
[3:13:46] kasi
[3:13:46] alam naman po natin
[3:13:47] parang
[3:13:48] politically
[3:13:49] high profile
[3:13:50] itong kaso na ito
[3:13:51] kaya
[3:13:51] atin pong iningatan
[3:13:53] hanggang son
[3:13:54] nagbigay na po sila
[3:13:55] ng pahayag nila
[3:13:55] at ayaw namang
[3:13:56] pirmahan
[3:13:56] kaya ang hirap
[3:13:58] din pong gamitin
[3:13:59] tama po
[3:14:00] pero
[3:14:00] meron din po
[3:14:01] kaming recording
[3:14:02] lahat po
[3:14:03] ng proceedings
[3:14:03] siningin namin
[3:14:04] ng kanilang consent
[3:14:05] na aming pong
[3:14:06] ibibidio record
[3:14:07] yung buong proceedings
[3:14:07] at meron po tayo noon
[3:14:09] ipakisubmit na lang
[3:14:11] sa committee rin
[3:14:11] so that we can
[3:14:13] analyze and also
[3:14:13] the full transcript
[3:14:14] para rin
[3:14:16] mabasa namin
[3:14:18] at maanalyze namin
[3:14:20] dito
[3:14:20] and my last question
[3:14:21] Mr. Chairman
[3:14:22] before I go
[3:14:23] to any round
[3:14:24] based on your analysis
[3:14:26] kung lima lang
[3:14:26] ang pumerma
[3:14:27] base sa inyong
[3:14:28] testimonya ngayon
[3:14:31] can we take
[3:14:32] the entire
[3:14:33] testimonies
[3:14:37] kasi sinabi nyo
[3:14:39] 10%
[3:14:40] yung
[3:14:41] masasabing
[3:14:42] direct
[3:14:42] information
[3:14:43] the 90%
[3:14:44] hindi
[3:14:45] so ano ang
[3:14:46] analysis
[3:14:47] ng
[3:14:47] NBA
[3:14:49] on this
[3:14:49] entire
[3:14:50] testimony
[3:14:52] or testimonies
[3:14:53] ang mahirap po
[3:14:54] yung 10%
[3:14:54] na totoo
[3:14:55] totoo
[3:14:56] naging empleyado
[3:14:56] halimbawa po
[3:14:57] yung totoo
[3:14:57] naging empleyado
[3:14:58] sila ni
[3:14:59] Saldico
[3:14:59] na tapos
[3:15:01] totoo po na
[3:15:02] sila
[3:15:03] na-assign
[3:15:04] kung anikanino
[3:15:05] totoo po na
[3:15:07] dating marins
[3:15:07] yung iba
[3:15:08] yung po yung mga
[3:15:10] totoo
[3:15:10] totoo
[3:15:11] kakilala nila
[3:15:12] siguro
[3:15:12] yung ibang tao
[3:15:13] pero yung
[3:15:14] mismong
[3:15:14] allegation
[3:15:14] na po
[3:15:15] ng nangyaring
[3:15:16] krimen
[3:15:16] na nag-deliver
[3:15:17] sila ng pera
[3:15:17] directly
[3:15:18] yun po
[3:15:19] dapat yung
[3:15:19] alam nila
[3:15:20] hindi po
[3:15:21] nila alam
[3:15:22] kung talagang
[3:15:22] yung laman
[3:15:23] ng maleta
[3:15:23] ay pera
[3:15:24] meron pa nga
[3:15:25] pong isa
[3:15:25] dun sa pumirma
[3:15:26] yung sinabidad
[3:15:27] binanggat ko
[3:15:27] po kanina
[3:15:28] tinanong
[3:15:29] siyang
[3:15:29] direkta
[3:15:29] nung
[3:15:29] nag-iimbestiga
[3:15:30] kung ano
[3:15:32] yung
[3:15:32] diniliver
[3:15:33] niya
[3:15:33] maleta
[3:15:33] ang sagot
[3:15:33] niya
[3:15:34] wala
[3:15:34] pero
[3:15:34] pag pinagsama-sama
[3:15:35] po
[3:15:36] yung pong
[3:15:36] pinagsamang
[3:15:38] salaysay
[3:15:38] magmumukhang
[3:15:39] maganda yung
[3:15:40] istorya
[3:15:41] at paniniwalaan
[3:15:42] pwedeng
[3:15:42] paniwalaan
[3:15:43] for purposes
[3:15:45] other than
[3:15:46] prosecuting
[3:15:47] or going
[3:15:47] after
[3:15:48] dun sa mga
[3:15:48] nagkamali
[3:15:49] ay mukhang
[3:15:49] hindi po
[3:15:50] titindig
[3:15:50] pinanggit nga po
[3:15:52] kanina
[3:15:52] ni P.G.
[3:15:53] Padulion
[3:15:53] na binabana
[3:15:54] namin yung
[3:15:55] standard
[3:15:56] to
[3:15:56] probable
[3:15:57] cause
[3:15:58] eh hindi pa rin
[3:15:59] po lulusot
[3:16:00] eh
[3:16:00] hindi pa rin
[3:16:01] po papasok
[3:16:02] sa probable
[3:16:02] cause
[3:16:03] kasi gusto lang nga po
[3:16:04] namin makita
[3:16:05] na maimbestigahan
[3:16:06] yung mga
[3:16:06] binanggit na tao
[3:16:07] na gusto rin nila
[3:16:08] gusto rin po namin
[3:16:09] ipatawag
[3:16:10] ang problema po namin
[3:16:11] Mr. Chair
[3:16:12] pag ipinatawag namin
[3:16:13] base rin sa kanilang
[3:16:15] inilatag
[3:16:16] na joint upinavit na yun
[3:16:17] eh baka po mukhang
[3:16:19] nagpipishing expedition kami
[3:16:20] at kami naman po
[3:16:21] ang papanagutin
[3:16:22] ng mga tao
[3:16:22] ang aming ipinapatawag po
[3:16:24] Thank you Mr. Chairman
[3:16:25] Maraming salamat
[3:16:27] Acting
[3:16:28] Sir President Gachilan
[3:16:29] Senator JV
[3:16:30] Mr. Turk
[3:16:31] Thank you Mr. Chair
[3:16:32] before we move on
[3:16:34] to another topic
[3:16:35] siguro nabanggit
[3:16:36] nabanggit kanina
[3:16:37] I'd just like to ask
[3:16:38] probably the NBI
[3:16:40] or DOJ
[3:16:41] are there efforts
[3:16:42] to locate
[3:16:43] yung pong nabanggit
[3:16:44] na
[3:16:45] doon sa affidavit
[3:16:46] yung mga
[3:16:47] EA
[3:16:48] ni Saldico
[3:16:49] yung Paul Estrada
[3:16:52] Mark Tixay
[3:16:53] Roberto Albarigo
[3:16:55] ito yung mga
[3:16:56] nabanggit na rin
[3:16:57] ng mga
[3:16:57] Blue Ribbon Committee
[3:16:58] hearing
[3:16:59] na nakaraan
[3:16:59] na
[3:17:00] naalala ko lang kasi
[3:17:01] na ito yung mga taong
[3:17:03] individual na malapit
[3:17:04] kay Saldico
[3:17:04] and they were also
[3:17:06] mentioned Mr. Chair
[3:17:07] doon sa affidavit
[3:17:09] ni Gil Navidad
[3:17:10] at ni
[3:17:10] Anselno Taberdo
[3:17:13] Tama no?
[3:17:13] Attorney
[3:17:14] Director
[3:17:15] they were also
[3:17:16] mentioned
[3:17:17] itong
[3:17:17] mga malalapit
[3:17:18] supposedly
[3:17:19] kay Saldico
[3:17:20] ang tanong ko na
[3:17:21] may effort ba tayo
[3:17:22] mahanap
[3:17:23] itong mga
[3:17:23] executive assistant
[3:17:27] o itong
[3:17:28] alleged bagman
[3:17:29] ni Saldico
[3:17:30] dahil
[3:17:31] kung sakasakali
[3:17:32] pagpalagay na natin
[3:17:33] meron
[3:17:34] 5-10%
[3:17:36] lang ang magagamit
[3:17:37] doon
[3:17:37] dahil kilala nila
[3:17:38] yung mga tao
[3:17:39] eh pwede pa rin
[3:17:40] magamit
[3:17:41] Attorney Batibag
[3:17:43] meron mang effort
[3:17:44] to look for
[3:17:44] these individuals
[3:17:46] Well
[3:17:47] we are willing
[3:17:48] to see issues
[3:17:49] of PINAT
[3:17:49] to them
[3:17:50] ngayon po
[3:17:51] pero yung
[3:17:52] even nga po
[3:17:52] yung identification nila
[3:17:54] saka
[3:17:54] personal circumstances
[3:17:56] hindi po
[3:17:56] maibigay sa amin
[3:17:57] nung
[3:17:58] 18 Marines
[3:17:59] so if there's an effort
[3:18:01] there is a continuing effort
[3:18:02] lahat naman po dito
[3:18:03] yung mga binanggit
[3:18:04] make no mistake
[3:18:06] na ibig sabihin
[3:18:07] dahil hindi
[3:18:08] maayos yung pagkasalaysay
[3:18:10] dito sa pinagsamang
[3:18:11] sinumpang salaysay
[3:18:12] eh hindi na namin
[3:18:13] titignan
[3:18:14] titignan pa rin po
[3:18:15] namin yun
[3:18:15] kaya lang nga
[3:18:16] yung magiging
[3:18:17] direction po natin
[3:18:18] sa halip na
[3:18:19] naging maluwag
[3:18:20] at mas pabilis
[3:18:21] yung direction
[3:18:22] ng pagpunta
[3:18:22] eh meron pa po
[3:18:23] nangyari na
[3:18:24] ganito
[3:18:25] na sa gabal po
[3:18:26] sa aming hangari
[3:18:26] na may patawag po
[3:18:27] yung mga taong
[3:18:28] dapat naming
[3:18:29] imbestigahan
[3:18:29] at na maganda po
[3:18:31] kanina
[3:18:31] binanggit ni
[3:18:32] PG Padul yun
[3:18:33] I just like to take
[3:18:35] the opportunity
[3:18:36] na ang NBI po
[3:18:37] katulong ang DOJ
[3:18:38] at saka po
[3:18:39] ang Ombudsman
[3:18:40] tuloy-tuloy po
[3:18:41] yung aming pag-iimbestiga
[3:18:42] at mga kasong
[3:18:43] aming inihahain po
[3:18:44] dun sa mga dapat
[3:18:45] managot po
[3:18:46] dito sa ating usapin
[3:18:47] na flood control issue
[3:18:48] po na to
[3:18:49] ang ano lang
[3:18:51] dahil
[3:18:52] sabi nga natin
[3:18:53] pag sinabi mong
[3:18:54] Marines
[3:18:54] ibang
[3:18:56] pananaw
[3:18:59] alam natin
[3:19:00] na yan
[3:19:01] talagang buhay
[3:19:02] lahat
[3:19:02] iaalay niya
[3:19:05] para sa bayan
[3:19:06] ang sa akin
[3:19:08] lang po
[3:19:08] Mr. Chair
[3:19:10] kung
[3:19:11] siguro
[3:19:12] sabanggit ni
[3:19:13] yung
[3:19:13] ator ni Matibag
[3:19:14] dito po kasi
[3:19:15] sa handling
[3:19:15] mukhang hindi maganda
[3:19:16] yung mga handler
[3:19:17] maaring
[3:19:19] doon sa mga kaunting
[3:19:20] kaya nga po
[3:19:20] nag-a-appeal na nga tayo
[3:19:21] doon sa mga
[3:19:22] doon sa lima
[3:19:24] na nag-execute
[3:19:25] ng apidabit
[3:19:25] maari po
[3:19:27] may magamit pa
[3:19:27] dun eh
[3:19:28] kung sakasakali
[3:19:30] kaya lang
[3:19:30] kung
[3:19:30] nasingitan kasi
[3:19:32] ng handler
[3:19:33] na ibang
[3:19:34] informasyon
[3:19:35] na dinagdag
[3:19:36] kung saan saan
[3:19:37] pero dapat
[3:19:37] nag-concentrate
[3:19:39] sila
[3:19:39] doon sa kalang
[3:19:40] personal knowledge
[3:19:41] maaring
[3:19:41] mas nagamit
[3:19:42] pag napagtahitahe
[3:19:44] kung sakali
[3:19:44] Ator ni Matibag
[3:19:45] kung nahana ba itong
[3:19:47] Paul Estrada
[3:19:47] Mark Dixay
[3:19:48] Albarigo
[3:19:49] at naitahi
[3:19:51] doon
[3:19:51] kailanabidad
[3:19:52] at taberdo
[3:19:53] maaring
[3:19:54] may magamit
[3:19:55] kung hindi lang
[3:19:55] siguro
[3:19:56] na sinasabi nyo
[3:19:57] na coach
[3:19:58] na mali
[3:19:59] o na dagdagan
[3:20:00] maari ho bang
[3:20:01] magamit yun
[3:20:02] kung sakasakali
[3:20:03] mahanap nyo
[3:20:03] itong
[3:20:04] mga
[3:20:05] sinasabing
[3:20:06] bagman
[3:20:06] at yung
[3:20:07] EA
[3:20:07] ni Saldico
[3:20:08] doon
[3:20:10] dahil
[3:20:10] nabangit nyo
[3:20:11] rin kanina
[3:20:12] yung sa mga lima
[3:20:13] na nag-apply
[3:20:14] David
[3:20:14] eh
[3:20:15] na-assign po
[3:20:16] talaga sila
[3:20:17] kay Mr. Saldico
[3:20:18] Well
[3:20:19] ito naman pong
[3:20:20] aming findings
[3:20:21] na ito
[3:20:22] including po
[3:20:22] yung nakuha
[3:20:23] namin mga
[3:20:23] testimonya
[3:20:24] doon sa mga
[3:20:24] Marines
[3:20:25] we are
[3:20:26] officially
[3:20:26] sharing it
[3:20:27] to the DOJ
[3:20:28] and to the
[3:20:28] Office of the
[3:20:29] Ombudsman
[3:20:29] for proper
[3:20:30] disposition
[3:20:31] kung maalala nyo po
[3:20:32] yung aming pong
[3:20:33] pagkilos
[3:20:33] based on the
[3:20:34] letter
[3:20:34] deputizing
[3:20:35] us
[3:20:36] by the
[3:20:36] Ombudsman
[3:20:37] to do the
[3:20:37] background
[3:20:38] investigation
[3:20:39] so that is
[3:20:40] a background
[3:20:40] investigation
[3:20:41] yung pong
[3:20:42] mga binanggit
[3:20:43] nila roon
[3:20:43] will be
[3:20:44] properly
[3:20:44] assessed
[3:20:45] by the
[3:20:45] Office of
[3:20:45] the Ombudsman
[3:20:46] in the
[3:20:46] Department
[3:20:47] of Justice
[3:20:47] and
[3:20:48] just
[3:20:48] we take
[3:20:50] your
[3:20:50] advice
[3:20:50] at
[3:20:51] sabi ko
[3:20:51] nga
[3:20:51] ito pong
[3:20:52] kasong
[3:20:52] ito
[3:20:53] hindi pa
[3:20:53] sarado
[3:20:54] tuloy-tuloy
[3:20:54] yung
[3:20:54] pag-investiga
[3:20:55] nangyari
[3:20:56] lamang
[3:20:56] po
[3:20:56] nung lumabas
[3:20:57] nga itong
[3:20:57] payag
[3:20:58] ng 18
[3:20:58] bodyguards
[3:21:00] na to
[3:21:00] sa halip
[3:21:01] na parang
[3:21:02] luminaw
[3:21:02] mas lumabo
[3:21:03] mas humaba
[3:21:05] po yung
[3:21:05] prosesong
[3:21:06] ating
[3:21:06] gagawin
[3:21:07] para
[3:21:07] habulin
[3:21:08] natin
[3:21:08] yung
[3:21:08] mga
[3:21:08] mananagot
[3:21:09] po
[3:21:09] dito
[3:21:09] sa issue
[3:21:10] ng
[3:21:10] plant
[3:21:10] control
[3:21:10] po
[3:21:11] na ito
[3:21:11] kaya nga po
[3:21:12] nag
[3:21:12] papasalamat tayo
[3:21:15] sa ating
[3:21:16] chairperson
[3:21:16] si
[3:21:17] Sen. Erwin
[3:21:18] Tulfo
[3:21:19] pinagbibigyan sana
[3:21:20] ng pagkakataon
[3:21:21] yung
[3:21:23] 18
[3:21:25] na maihayag
[3:21:26] yung kanilang
[3:21:26] nalalaman
[3:21:27] na sa halip
[3:21:28] na nag-press
[3:21:29] con
[3:21:29] maaaring
[3:21:30] kasi iba
[3:21:32] yung pagpumirma ka
[3:21:33] kahit pa paano
[3:21:34] tinitindigan mo yun
[3:21:35] so maaaring
[3:21:37] may magamit
[3:21:37] doon
[3:21:38] mapagtahitahin
[3:21:39] natin
[3:21:39] kumahanap
[3:21:40] itong mga
[3:21:40] individual na ito
[3:21:41] kaysa
[3:21:41] umiwas po sila
[3:21:43] kaya hindi natin
[3:21:44] tinalalabas ito
[3:21:45] Mr. Chair
[3:21:46] salamat
[3:21:46] at inibita mo sila
[3:21:48] na i-discredit sila
[3:21:49] kundi kung may magagamit
[3:21:50] doon
[3:21:50] bakit hindi
[3:21:51] I'm sure
[3:21:52] si Atty. Batibag
[3:21:53] would agree
[3:21:54] na doon
[3:21:55] sa kahit
[3:21:55] 10%
[3:21:56] eh kung magagamit
[3:21:58] magtatahitahin
[3:21:59] natin ito
[3:21:59] eh matutunto
[3:22:00] natin
[3:22:01] kung may delivery nga
[3:22:02] mayroong
[3:22:03] ng delivery
[3:22:04] kung mayroong
[3:22:04] itong mga bagman
[3:22:05] na ito
[3:22:05] may kinalaman talaga
[3:22:06] para talaga
[3:22:09] malaman na natin
[3:22:09] itong mga tunay
[3:22:10] na may salarin
[3:22:11] dito sa
[3:22:12] buong
[3:22:13] modus na ito
[3:22:16] yan
[3:22:16] ano lang po
[3:22:18] salamat po sa
[3:22:19] tanong ni
[3:22:20] Senator JB
[3:22:21] Mr. Chair
[3:22:21] let me state po
[3:22:23] that the NBI
[3:22:24] will be relentless
[3:22:25] in pursuing
[3:22:26] those who violate
[3:22:27] the law
[3:22:27] lalo na po
[3:22:28] dito sa issue
[3:22:29] ng corruption
[3:22:29] that is the
[3:22:30] commitment po
[3:22:31] ng NBI
[3:22:32] dito sa committee
[3:22:32] na ito
[3:22:33] just to cite
[3:22:34] an example
[3:22:35] just recently
[3:22:36] we are going
[3:22:36] after politically
[3:22:37] exposed persons
[3:22:38] recently po
[3:22:39] we arrested
[3:22:40] a director
[3:22:41] from SEC
[3:22:42] na
[3:22:42] nag-i-extort
[3:22:44] po
[3:22:44] at meron po
[3:22:45] kaming sinusundad
[3:22:46] din na lead
[3:22:46] na
[3:22:47] medyo malaking
[3:22:48] personality po
[3:22:49] na
[3:22:50] hindi lang namin
[3:22:51] ibibigay po po
[3:22:52] yung bond
[3:22:52] detalye
[3:22:53] pero
[3:22:53] meron pong
[3:22:54] dalawa
[3:22:55] na malaking
[3:22:55] personality
[3:22:56] na tingin namin
[3:22:58] ay
[3:22:58] gumamit
[3:22:59] ng mga
[3:23:00] dami po
[3:23:00] para itago
[3:23:01] itong issue
[3:23:01] po
[3:23:02] ng flood control
[3:23:02] before we go
[3:23:06] to
[3:23:06] Senator Baum
[3:23:07] just want
[3:23:08] to remind
[3:23:08] everybody
[3:23:09] yung report
[3:23:57] po sa atin
[3:23:58] mag-attend
[3:24:00] dito po
[3:24:01] sa ating
[3:24:01] meeting
[3:24:02] eventually
[3:24:03] magiging
[3:24:04] hearing po
[3:24:04] ito
[3:24:05] and under
[3:24:05] oath
[3:24:05] mapag-uusapan
[3:24:07] yung
[3:24:07] kanilang
[3:24:08] sinasabi
[3:24:08] at malalaman
[3:24:09] natin
[3:24:10] yung
[3:24:10] katotohanan
[3:24:11] pero siguro
[3:24:12] po
[3:24:12] yung mongkahi
[3:24:13] ko na lang
[3:24:13] to the
[3:24:13] agencies
[3:24:14] in front
[3:24:14] of us
[3:24:15] ang DOJ
[3:24:16] ang NBI
[3:24:17] at ang
[3:24:18] ombudsman
[3:24:18] ito po
[3:24:21] palagay ko
[3:24:22] ito po
[3:24:22] yung pakiramdam
[3:24:22] ng maraming
[3:24:23] tao
[3:24:23] kailangan
[3:24:24] po natin
[3:24:25] i-resolve
[3:24:25] itong issue
[3:24:26] ng flood control
[3:24:27] mag-iisang
[3:24:28] taon na po
[3:24:29] ang
[3:24:30] SONA
[3:24:30] yung SONA
[3:24:32] po
[3:24:32] yung SONA
[3:24:33] po
[3:24:33] last year
[3:24:34] dun po
[3:24:35] lumabas
[3:24:35] yung
[3:24:35] mahiyan
[3:24:37] naman
[3:24:37] kayo
[3:24:38] at mag-iisang
[3:24:38] taon
[3:24:39] na po
[3:24:39] yan
[3:24:39] next month
[3:24:40] na po
[3:24:40] yan
[3:24:41] so
[3:24:41] wag na
[3:24:42] po natin
[3:24:42] paubutin
[3:24:43] ng isang
[3:24:43] taon
[3:24:44] na yung
[3:24:44] pinakamalalaking
[3:24:45] isda
[3:24:46] ay hindi
[3:24:46] po
[3:24:46] nahuhuli
[3:24:48] at sana
[3:24:49] po
[3:24:49] gawin natin yan
[3:24:50] na wala
[3:24:50] tayong
[3:24:51] kinikilingan
[3:24:52] we follow
[3:24:53] the law
[3:24:54] we follow
[3:24:55] where the
[3:24:55] evidence
[3:24:56] leads us
[3:24:57] at gawin
[3:24:58] po natin
[3:24:58] yung nararapat
[3:24:59] kasi
[3:24:59] alam nyo po
[3:25:00] may nagsasabi
[3:25:01] kasi
[3:25:01] nakalimutan na yung
[3:25:03] issue ng
[3:25:04] flood control
[3:25:04] yun po yung
[3:25:05] mga binabato
[3:25:06] po rin po
[3:25:06] pero hindi po
[3:25:07] nakakalimutan yung
[3:25:08] flood control
[3:25:09] dahil
[3:25:10] meron po
[3:25:11] magpapaalala
[3:25:12] sa atin
[3:25:12] ng flood control
[3:25:13] yung panahon
[3:25:14] dahil rainy season
[3:25:15] sa ilo-ilo
[3:25:17] at napakarami
[3:25:18] pa mga lugar
[3:25:19] pag mga bahana
[3:25:20] po
[3:25:20] sa buong
[3:25:21] kapuloan
[3:25:21] natin
[3:25:22] maalala
[3:25:23] ng tao
[3:25:23] itong issue
[3:25:24] na ito
[3:25:24] at iisipin nila
[3:25:26] meron bang
[3:25:27] nangyari
[3:25:27] kaya mahalaga
[3:25:29] po na
[3:25:29] ituloy po
[3:25:30] yung
[3:25:31] hearing
[3:25:31] ituloy po
[3:25:32] yung
[3:25:33] investigasyon
[3:25:33] at sana po
[3:25:34] ma-resolve
[3:25:35] na po
[3:25:35] natin ito
[3:25:36] bago pa
[3:25:36] umabot
[3:25:37] ng one year
[3:25:38] anniversary
[3:25:39] na kung saan
[3:25:40] po una
[3:25:40] itong
[3:25:41] nailabas
[3:25:42] habang
[3:25:43] hindi pa po
[3:25:44] ito
[3:25:44] nare-resolve
[3:25:45] tuloy-tuloy
[3:25:46] po
[3:25:46] ang mga
[3:25:47] tanong
[3:25:47] ng taong
[3:25:47] bayan
[3:25:48] kung
[3:25:48] sineseryoso
[3:25:49] ba
[3:25:49] natin
[3:25:49] ng issue
[3:25:50] na ito
[3:25:50] at mahalaga
[3:25:51] po na
[3:25:51] seryosohin
[3:25:52] po natin
[3:25:52] ito
[3:25:52] isa po
[3:25:53] ito
[3:25:53] sa pinakamalaking
[3:25:54] nakawan
[3:25:55] sa buong
[3:25:56] kasaysayan
[3:25:56] ng ating
[3:25:57] bansa
[3:25:57] at alam
[3:25:58] ko po
[3:25:58] mahirap
[3:25:58] ang
[3:25:59] trabaho
[3:25:59] ninyo
[3:25:59] kada
[3:26:00] hakbang
[3:26:01] may
[3:26:02] bumabatikos
[3:26:03] alam
[3:26:03] ko po
[3:26:03] yan
[3:26:04] pero
[3:26:05] siguro
[3:26:06] po
[3:26:06] para
[3:26:06] rin
[3:26:06] po
[3:26:06] sa taong
[3:26:07] bayan
[3:26:07] let's
[3:26:08] do our
[3:26:10] best
[3:26:10] I know
[3:26:11] everyone
[3:26:12] is trying
[3:26:12] their
[3:26:12] hardest
[3:26:13] but
[3:26:13] mahalaga
[3:26:14] siguro
[3:26:14] po
[3:26:14] itong
[3:26:14] sense
[3:26:15] of
[3:26:15] urgency
[3:26:15] natin
[3:26:16] na magkaroon
[3:26:16] ng
[3:26:16] resolusyon
[3:26:17] ang issue
[3:26:18] na ito
[3:26:19] mahuli
[3:26:19] ang dapat
[3:26:20] mahuli
[3:26:20] yung talagang
[3:26:21] nasa likod
[3:26:22] nito
[3:26:22] mastermind
[3:26:23] kung saan
[3:26:23] pa po
[3:26:23] ito
[3:26:24] papunta
[3:26:24] kailangan
[3:26:25] po talaga
[3:26:25] mahuli
[3:26:26] na
[3:26:26] para
[3:26:27] makamove
[3:26:27] on
[3:26:27] na rin
[3:26:28] po tayo
[3:26:28] dito
[3:26:28] po
[3:26:29] sa ating
[3:26:29] mga
[3:26:29] kailangan
[3:26:30] gawin
[3:26:31] dito
[3:26:31] po
[3:26:31] sa ating
[3:26:31] bansa
[3:26:32] napakarami
[3:26:32] pong
[3:26:33] issue
[3:26:33] napakarami
[3:26:34] pong
[3:26:34] krisis
[3:26:35] ngayon
[3:26:35] lang
[3:26:35] po
[3:26:35] nagkaroon
[3:26:35] ng
[3:26:36] earthquake
[3:26:36] po
[3:26:36] sa
[3:26:37] Mindanao
[3:26:37] at
[3:26:37] marami
[3:26:38] po
[3:26:46] ito
[3:26:46] nabibigyan
[3:26:47] ng
[3:26:47] tamang
[3:26:48] resolusyon
[3:26:48] patuloy
[3:26:49] po
[3:26:49] yung
[3:26:50] sugot
[3:26:50] na ito
[3:26:50] sa ating
[3:26:51] bansa
[3:26:51] na kailangan
[3:26:52] pong
[3:26:52] magkaroon
[3:26:53] na po
[3:26:53] ng
[3:26:53] lunas
[3:26:54] yun lang
[3:26:54] po
[3:26:54] Mr.
[3:26:55] Chairman
[3:26:55] maraming
[3:26:55] salamat
[3:26:56] po
[3:26:56] sa mga
[3:26:56] resource
[3:26:56] persons
[3:26:57] po
[3:26:57] natin
[3:26:57] Thank you
[3:26:58] Senator
[3:26:58] Bam
[3:26:58] after
[3:26:59] Senator
[3:26:59] Soto
[3:26:59] will be
[3:27:00] Senator
[3:27:00] Ray
[3:27:01] Santiveros
[3:27:02] Go ahead
[3:27:03] po
[3:27:03] Senator
[3:27:04] Soto
[3:27:04] Thank you
[3:27:06] Sir
[3:27:06] Thank you
[3:27:07] Mr.
[3:27:07] Chairman
[3:27:08] I
[3:27:10] actually
[3:27:11] came
[3:27:11] and
[3:27:12] prepared
[3:27:13] many
[3:27:13] questions
[3:27:14] but
[3:27:15] after
[3:27:16] hearing
[3:27:17] the NBI
[3:27:18] report
[3:27:18] and
[3:27:20] then
[3:27:20] looking
[3:27:20] at
[3:27:21] the
[3:27:21] reading
[3:27:23] through
[3:27:23] the
[3:27:23] joint
[3:27:24] affidavit
[3:27:26] and
[3:27:26] then
[3:27:26] the
[3:27:27] copies
[3:27:29] of the
[3:27:30] affidavit
[3:27:30] of the
[3:27:31] five
[3:27:31] who
[3:27:31] individually
[3:27:32] submitted
[3:27:33] their
[3:27:33] affidavit
[3:27:35] and
[3:27:36] dating
[3:27:38] sa akin
[3:27:38] is
[3:27:39] wala
[3:27:40] na
[3:27:41] ako
[3:27:41] itatanong
[3:27:41] kasi
[3:27:42] apparently
[3:27:44] yung
[3:27:44] joint
[3:27:44] affidavit
[3:27:45] was it
[3:27:47] the word
[3:27:48] used
[3:27:48] by NBI
[3:27:49] based
[3:27:49] on the
[3:27:50] NBI
[3:27:50] report
[3:27:50] concocted
[3:27:51] merong
[3:27:52] gumawa
[3:27:53] at
[3:27:55] parang
[3:27:55] for media
[3:27:56] purposes
[3:27:56] tapos
[3:27:58] nakabanggit
[3:28:00] ako
[3:28:00] ron
[3:28:02] nasingit
[3:28:03] ako
[3:28:03] somewhere
[3:28:04] along
[3:28:06] this
[3:28:06] makapal
[3:28:07] na
[3:28:07] bidavit
[3:28:08] na
[3:28:08] to
[3:28:08] and
[3:28:09] then
[3:28:09] nung
[3:28:09] magbigay
[3:28:10] ng
[3:28:10] sinumpaang
[3:28:12] salaysay
[3:28:13] yung mga
[3:28:13] nabanggit
[3:28:14] doon
[3:28:14] lalo
[3:28:14] na yung
[3:28:15] lima
[3:28:15] hindi
[3:28:16] ako
[3:28:16] binanggit
[3:28:17] wala
[3:28:19] akong
[3:28:19] banggit
[3:28:19] doon
[3:28:20] walang
[3:28:20] sinasabi
[3:28:20] sa akin
[3:28:21] doon
[3:28:21] pero
[3:28:22] pagdating
[3:28:23] nung
[3:28:24] pseudo
[3:28:26] hearing
[3:28:27] ay
[3:28:29] pilit
[3:28:30] itinatanong
[3:28:30] nung dalawang
[3:28:31] senador
[3:28:31] tungkol
[3:28:32] sa akin
[3:28:32] saka
[3:28:32] kaysen
[3:28:33] at
[3:28:33] so
[3:28:33] I actually
[3:28:36] sympathize
[3:28:36] with the
[3:28:37] 18
[3:28:37] empathize
[3:28:39] with the
[3:28:39] 18
[3:28:40] ex-bodyguards
[3:28:41] because
[3:28:42] parang
[3:28:43] nagagamit
[3:28:44] talaga sila
[3:28:46] ay
[3:28:46] nakakawa eh
[3:28:49] dahil
[3:28:50] later on
[3:28:51] baka sila
[3:28:52] sasalo
[3:28:52] ng lahat
[3:28:52] ng
[3:28:53] kabulastugan
[3:28:54] nung
[3:28:54] ginawa
[3:28:55] nung
[3:28:55] nagprepare
[3:28:55] ng
[3:28:56] joint
[3:28:56] apidabit
[3:28:57] nagsingit
[3:28:57] si ganito
[3:28:58] sinama
[3:28:58] si ganito
[3:28:59] pagkatapos
[3:29:00] individually
[3:29:01] pagka
[3:29:02] nakausap
[3:29:02] iba ang
[3:29:03] kwento nila
[3:29:04] nung sarili
[3:29:05] nilang
[3:29:05] kaalaman
[3:29:05] so
[3:29:06] with that
[3:29:08] Mr.
[3:29:09] Chairman
[3:29:09] I have
[3:29:10] no questions
[3:29:11] to any
[3:29:12] of them
[3:29:13] obvious
[3:29:14] na
[3:29:14] alam
[3:29:14] na
[3:29:14] ng
[3:29:15] taong
[3:29:15] bayan
[3:29:15] ano
[3:29:15] nangyari
[3:29:16] Thank you
[3:29:18] Senator
[3:29:18] Soda
[3:29:19] Senator
[3:29:19] Risa
[3:29:20] Salamat
[3:29:22] Mr.
[3:29:22] Chair
[3:29:22] With the
[3:29:23] advice
[3:29:24] of
[3:29:24] Vice
[3:29:25] Chair
[3:29:25] Kiko
[3:29:25] in
[3:29:26] relation
[3:29:26] dun
[3:29:27] sa
[3:29:27] lindol
[3:29:28] na
[3:29:28] binagit
[3:29:29] ni
[3:29:29] Senator
[3:29:29] Bam
[3:29:30] tatlong
[3:29:31] maikling
[3:29:32] factual
[3:29:32] questions
[3:29:33] na
[3:29:33] lamang
[3:29:33] po
[3:29:33] sa
[3:29:35] NBI
[3:29:36] sa
[3:29:38] investigation
[3:29:39] nyo
[3:29:40] parit
[3:29:41] po
[3:29:41] yung
[3:29:41] pagkondukta
[3:29:42] ng lie
[3:29:42] detector
[3:29:43] test
[3:29:43] and
[3:29:44] if
[3:29:44] so
[3:29:45] bakit
[3:29:46] po
[3:29:46] hindi
[3:29:46] nakapag
[3:29:47] lie
[3:29:47] detector
[3:29:47] test
[3:29:48] po
[3:29:48] yung
[3:29:48] 18
[3:29:49] ex
[3:29:49] bodyguards
[3:29:50] meron pong
[3:29:52] mga
[3:29:52] nung tinanong
[3:29:53] kung willing
[3:29:54] silang pumasok
[3:29:54] sa lie
[3:29:55] detector
[3:29:55] test
[3:29:55] meron
[3:29:56] namang
[3:29:56] mga
[3:29:57] sumagot
[3:29:57] na
[3:29:57] directly
[3:29:59] na
[3:29:59] opo
[3:29:59] meron
[3:30:00] namang
[3:30:00] mga
[3:30:00] sumagot
[3:30:43] din
[3:30:44] na
[3:30:44] ang sinasabi
[3:30:44] is
[3:30:45] tatanungin
[3:30:46] si
[3:30:46] sa lugar
[3:30:47] ni
[3:30:47] Atty
[3:30:47] Balikod
[3:30:48] mismo
[3:30:48] mula
[3:30:49] pa
[3:30:49] po
[3:30:49] noong
[3:30:49] November
[3:30:50] so
[3:30:51] ang
[3:30:51] naging
[3:30:51] offshoot
[3:30:52] po
[3:30:52] ang
[3:30:52] takeaway
[3:30:53] po
[3:30:53] naging
[3:30:53] ni
[3:30:53] Atty
[3:30:54] Balikod
[3:30:54] mismo
[3:30:54] mula
[3:30:55] pa
[3:30:55] po
[3:30:56] noong
[3:30:56] November
[3:30:56] so
[3:30:57] ang
[3:30:57] naging
[3:30:58] offshoot
[3:30:59] naging
[3:31:00] offshoot
[3:31:00] niyan
[3:31:00] kaya
[3:31:01] po
[3:31:01] na
[3:31:01] si
[3:31:01] Buduan
[3:31:02] yung
[3:31:03] kay
[3:31:03] Gutesa
[3:31:03] po
[3:31:04] doon
[3:31:04] nagsimula
[3:31:04] Salamat
[3:31:08] Mr. Chair
[3:31:09] at huling
[3:31:09] tanong
[3:31:09] na lamang
[3:31:10] so
[3:31:11] paano
[3:31:12] po
[3:31:12] nabuo
[3:31:13] yung
[3:31:13] grupong
[3:31:13] ito
[3:31:14] ganun
[3:31:14] po
[3:31:15] na
[3:31:15] lumapit
[3:31:15] si
[3:31:16] Atty
[3:31:16] Balikod
[3:31:16] kay
[3:31:17] Mr.
[3:31:18] Buduan
[3:31:18] at si
[3:31:19] Mr.
[3:31:19] Buduan
[3:31:19] na
[3:31:20] ang
[3:31:20] nagrecruit
[3:31:20] noong
[3:31:21] labimpito
[3:31:21] pa
[3:31:21] meron
[3:31:22] pa
[3:31:22] baka
[3:31:22] nalaman
[3:31:23] ang
[3:31:23] NBI
[3:31:24] dun
[3:31:24] sa
[3:31:24] pagbubuo
[3:31:24] ng
[3:31:25] grupo
[3:31:25] Tama po
[3:31:26] yun
[3:31:26] si Buduan
[3:31:27] po
[3:31:27] yung
[3:31:27] pinakang
[3:31:28] kinuha
[3:31:28] na
[3:31:28] kubausap
[3:31:29] para
[3:31:30] sa
[3:31:30] labing
[3:31:30] walo
[3:31:30] na
[3:31:30] sumama
[3:31:31] Katunayan
[3:31:31] hindi lang
[3:31:32] po
[3:31:32] ang aming
[3:31:32] findings
[3:31:33] hindi lang
[3:31:34] po
[3:31:34] labing
[3:31:34] walo
[3:31:35] yung
[3:31:35] kanilang
[3:31:35] kinakausap
[3:31:36] 26
[3:31:37] po
[3:31:37] dapat
[3:31:38] yan
[3:31:38] at
[3:31:39] 24
[3:31:40] may
[3:31:40] 6
[3:31:40] pa
[3:31:40] po
[3:31:41] may
[3:31:42] mga
[3:31:43] lumabas
[3:31:43] dun
[3:31:43] sa
[3:31:43] social
[3:31:44] media
[3:31:44] may
[3:31:44] kinakausap
[3:31:46] na
[3:31:46] additional
[3:31:47] 6
[3:31:48] para
[3:31:49] magiging
[3:31:49] 24
[3:31:50] tapos
[3:31:51] ang
[3:31:51] nangyari
[3:31:51] po
[3:31:52] nyan
[3:31:52] na
[3:31:53] record
[3:31:56] meron po
[3:31:58] kaming
[3:31:58] recording
[3:31:58] noon
[3:31:59] nakuha
[3:31:59] rin po
[3:31:59] namin
[3:32:00] sa aming
[3:32:00] monitoring
[3:32:00] ng aming
[3:32:01] CCD
[3:32:02] yung
[3:32:02] aming
[3:32:03] cybercrime
[3:32:03] division
[3:32:04] nandoon
[3:32:04] po
[3:32:04] meron din
[3:32:06] po
[3:32:06] mga
[3:32:06] report
[3:32:06] na
[3:32:07] pumasok
[3:32:07] sa amin
[3:32:08] na
[3:32:08] malalayong
[3:32:09] lugar
[3:32:09] mga
[3:32:09] taga
[3:32:10] Isabela
[3:32:10] taga
[3:32:10] Pugigaraw
[3:32:11] pinupuntahan
[3:32:12] pa ni
[3:32:12] attorney
[3:32:13] balikod
[3:32:14] para
[3:32:14] kumbinsihin
[3:32:15] unofficially
[3:32:18] we cannot
[3:32:18] make use
[3:32:19] of the
[3:32:20] recording
[3:32:20] that was
[3:32:21] given
[3:32:21] to us
[3:32:21] dahil
[3:32:22] meron
[3:32:23] konting
[3:32:23] violation
[3:32:24] yan
[3:32:24] pero
[3:32:24] maririnig
[3:32:25] mismo
[3:32:26] doon
[3:32:26] yung
[3:32:26] boses
[3:32:27] ni
[3:32:27] attorney
[3:32:27] balikod
[3:32:28] na
[3:32:28] kinukumbinsihin
[3:32:29] na
[3:32:29] o ikaw
[3:32:30] kumuha
[3:32:30] ng picture
[3:32:31] na to
[3:32:31] asan na
[3:32:31] yung
[3:32:31] usb
[3:32:32] sinasabi
[3:32:33] ng tao
[3:32:33] ayoko
[3:32:34] na makialam
[3:32:34] nananahimik
[3:32:35] na ko
[3:32:35] yung
[3:32:35] pamilya
[3:32:36] ko
[3:32:36] at
[3:32:37] pag
[3:32:37] mapapansin
[3:32:38] po
[3:32:38] ninyo
[3:32:39] itong
[3:32:39] labing
[3:32:39] walo
[3:32:40] these
[3:32:40] are
[3:32:40] the
[3:32:41] individuals
[3:32:41] na wala
[3:32:42] pong
[3:32:42] trabaho
[3:32:43] kasi
[3:32:44] dun sa
[3:32:44] 100
[3:32:45] pag
[3:32:45] inyo
[3:32:45] pong
[3:32:45] i-check
[3:32:46] i-validate
[3:32:47] some
[3:32:47] of
[3:32:48] them
[3:32:48] probably
[3:32:49] more
[3:32:49] than
[3:32:49] 10
[3:32:49] of
[3:32:50] them
[3:32:50] are
[3:32:50] still
[3:32:51] in
[3:32:51] active
[3:32:51] service
[3:32:52] so
[3:32:53] kaya ko
[3:32:54] po
[3:32:54] this is
[3:32:55] material
[3:32:55] kaya ko
[3:32:56] po
[3:32:56] sinasabi
[3:32:56] to
[3:32:57] yung
[3:32:57] mga
[3:32:57] nasa
[3:32:57] active
[3:32:58] service
[3:32:58] may
[3:32:58] trabaho
[3:32:59] hindi mo
[3:32:59] na
[3:32:59] pwedeng
[3:33:00] kumbinsihin
[3:33:00] dahil
[3:33:01] meron
[3:33:02] silang
[3:33:02] career
[3:33:02] more
[3:33:03] than
[3:33:03] the
[3:33:03] salary
[3:33:04] na
[3:33:05] makukuha
[3:33:05] yung
[3:33:05] career
[3:33:06] nila
[3:33:06] tinitingnan
[3:33:06] nila
[3:33:07] pero
[3:33:07] itong
[3:33:08] individual
[3:33:08] na
[3:33:09] labing
[3:33:10] walo
[3:33:10] na
[3:33:10] to
[3:33:10] pag
[3:33:11] pre-profile
[3:33:11] nga
[3:33:11] po
[3:33:12] natin
[3:33:12] tingnan
[3:33:12] mo
[3:33:12] yung
[3:33:12] pagka
[3:33:13] profile
[3:33:13] natin
[3:33:14] dyan
[3:33:14] halos
[3:33:14] pare-pareas
[3:33:15] yung
[3:33:15] kanilang
[3:33:15] mga
[3:33:15] katatayuan
[3:33:16] po
[3:33:16] so
[3:33:17] yun na po
[3:33:19] kasama na po
[3:33:20] yung
[3:33:20] series
[3:33:21] bibigay
[3:33:21] naming
[3:33:21] findings
[3:33:22] na
[3:33:22] tingin ko
[3:33:23] dapat
[3:33:24] po
[3:33:24] matingnan
[3:33:24] kung
[3:33:25] siguro
[3:33:26] kumamarapatin
[3:33:29] po
[3:33:29] meron namang
[3:33:30] lista
[3:33:31] dun sa
[3:33:31] mga
[3:33:32] empleyado
[3:33:33] na yun
[3:33:33] na ni
[3:33:33] dating
[3:33:34] congressman
[3:33:35] Saldico
[3:33:35] na nasa
[3:33:36] active
[3:33:36] service
[3:33:37] may mga
[3:33:38] ilan
[3:33:38] po
[3:33:38] nakausap
[3:33:39] dyan
[3:33:39] na
[3:33:39] natatakot
[3:33:40] nalang
[3:33:40] lumabas
[3:33:40] they're
[3:33:41] very
[3:33:42] protective
[3:33:42] of their
[3:33:43] career
[3:33:45] sa pamamagitan
[3:33:45] po ninyo
[3:33:46] through an
[3:33:46] executive
[3:33:47] session
[3:33:47] makausap
[3:33:48] po itong
[3:33:49] mga
[3:33:49] tao
[3:33:49] na ito
[3:33:50] para po
[3:33:50] matapos
[3:33:51] at makita
[3:33:52] natin
[3:33:52] po
[3:33:52] ang
[3:33:52] katotohanan
[3:33:53] Actually
[3:33:55] yun lang
[3:33:56] naman
[3:33:57] po
[3:33:57] yung
[3:33:57] huli
[3:33:57] kong
[3:33:57] tanong
[3:33:58] Mr.
[3:33:58] Chair
[3:33:58] Maraming
[3:33:59] salamat
[3:34:00] po
[3:34:00] Mr.
[3:34:01] Chair
[3:34:01] at
[3:34:01] Director
[3:34:02] and
[3:34:03] kapag
[3:34:03] fully
[3:34:03] constituted
[3:34:04] na po
[3:34:05] yung
[3:34:05] atang
[3:34:05] committee
[3:34:05] at
[3:34:06] magpatuloy
[3:34:06] na yung
[3:34:06] mga
[3:34:06] hearings
[3:34:07] I would
[3:34:08] be
[3:34:08] very
[3:34:08] interested
[3:34:09] kung
[3:34:10] mabigyan
[3:34:10] daan
[3:34:11] po
[3:34:11] ng
[3:34:11] Chair
[3:34:15] Tibag
[3:34:15] para nga
[3:34:16] po
[3:34:16] makausap
[3:34:17] yung
[3:34:17] ibang
[3:34:17] mga
[3:34:17] taong
[3:34:18] iyon
[3:34:18] na
[3:34:19] pwedeng
[3:34:19] magbigay
[3:34:20] ng buong
[3:34:20] katotohanan
[3:34:21] and
[3:34:22] napaka
[3:34:23] interesante
[3:34:23] pong
[3:34:23] makausap
[3:34:24] din
[3:34:24] si
[3:34:24] Mr.
[3:34:25] Buduan
[3:34:26] so
[3:34:27] sana
[3:34:27] po
[3:34:27] ay
[3:34:28] ma-find
[3:34:30] within
[3:34:30] themselves
[3:34:31] nung
[3:34:31] labing
[3:34:32] walong
[3:34:32] ex
[3:34:33] bodyguards
[3:34:34] na
[3:34:34] tawag
[3:34:37] nito
[3:34:37] bigyan
[3:34:38] ng
[3:34:38] respeto
[3:34:38] ang
[3:34:39] ipadadalang
[3:34:40] invitasyon
[3:34:41] ng
[3:34:41] committee
[3:34:41] sa
[3:34:41] kanila
[3:34:42] sa
[3:34:42] susunod
[3:34:43] po
[3:34:43] na
[3:34:43] pagdinig
[3:34:44] ng
[3:34:44] fully
[3:34:44] constituted
[3:34:45] committee
[3:34:45] salamat
[3:34:46] po
[3:34:46] Mr.
[3:34:46] Chair
[3:34:46] Thank you
[3:34:47] Senator
[3:34:47] reason
[3:34:47] noted
[3:34:48] go ahead
[3:34:49] Senator
[3:34:49] Rafi
[3:34:50] Okay
[3:34:51] kasi
[3:34:52] ganina
[3:34:52] nababanggit
[3:34:53] ni
[3:34:53] Atty.
[3:34:53] Matiba
[3:34:54] paulit-ulit
[3:34:54] si
[3:34:55] Buduan
[3:34:56] saka
[3:34:58] Baligod
[3:35:00] so
[3:35:01] sila
[3:35:01] yung
[3:35:02] nagrecruit
[3:35:03] dito
[3:35:04] sa
[3:35:04] labing
[3:35:04] walo
[3:35:04] and
[3:35:05] meron
[3:35:06] pang
[3:35:06] sinasabing
[3:35:07] nga
[3:35:07] nagbayaran
[3:35:07] nagtawaran
[3:35:08] etc
[3:35:09] wala
[3:35:10] bang
[3:35:10] pwede
[3:35:11] maikaso
[3:35:11] dito
[3:35:12] sa
[3:35:12] dalawang
[3:35:12] personalidad
[3:35:13] na
[3:35:13] nabanggit
[3:35:14] na sila
[3:35:14] yung
[3:35:14] nagrecruit
[3:35:15] sa mga
[3:35:15] tao
[3:35:15] para
[3:35:16] magsinungaling
[3:35:17] at
[3:35:17] babayaran
[3:35:18] itong
[3:35:18] mga
[3:35:18] tao
[3:35:18] ito
[3:35:19] kapag
[3:35:19] itong
[3:35:19] mga
[3:35:20] tao
[3:35:20] itong
[3:35:20] labing
[3:35:21] walong
[3:35:21] kargador
[3:35:22] eventually
[3:35:22] may
[3:35:22] mga
[3:35:23] magkakaso
[3:35:23] sa
[3:35:23] kanila
[3:35:24] kung
[3:35:24] sino
[3:35:24] man
[3:35:24] yun
[3:35:24] hindi
[3:35:24] hindi
[3:35:24] hindi
[3:35:24] alam
[3:35:25] dahil
[3:35:25] nga
[3:35:25] sa
[3:35:25] pagsisinuali
[3:35:26] lalo
[3:35:26] ng
[3:35:26] last
[3:35:27] press
[3:35:29] conference
[3:35:29] kawawa
[3:35:31] naman
[3:35:32] yung
[3:35:32] labing
[3:35:32] walong
[3:35:33] kargador
[3:35:33] so
[3:35:34] itong
[3:35:34] dalawa
[3:35:35] na
[3:35:35] nagrecruit
[3:35:35] wala
[3:35:36] bang
[3:35:36] kaso
[3:35:36] para
[3:35:37] sa
[3:35:37] kanila
[3:35:37] Mr.
[3:35:39] Chair
[3:35:39] katunayan
[3:35:40] may mga
[3:35:40] kaso
[3:35:41] na
[3:35:41] na
[3:35:41] file
[3:35:42] sa
[3:35:42] kanila
[3:35:42] yung
[3:35:43] mga
[3:35:43] binanggit
[3:35:43] na
[3:35:44] pangalan
[3:35:44] may mga
[3:35:46] nagkaso
[3:35:46] na
[3:35:46] po
[3:35:46] at
[3:35:47] sa
[3:35:47] amin
[3:35:47] din
[3:35:47] meron
[3:35:48] nakapending
[3:35:48] kaming
[3:35:49] mga
[3:35:49] investigation
[3:35:50] na
[3:35:50] ang
[3:35:51] ikinaso
[3:35:52] naman
[3:35:52] po
[3:35:52] yung
[3:35:52] sa
[3:35:52] cyber
[3:35:53] libel
[3:35:53] dahil
[3:35:54] inilabas
[3:35:55] nga
[3:35:55] po
[3:35:55] sa
[3:35:55] at
[3:35:56] kasama
[3:35:57] po
[3:35:57] sa
[3:35:57] kinakasuhan
[3:35:58] si
[3:35:58] Atty.
[3:35:59] Malikod
[3:35:59] pero
[3:36:00] ang
[3:36:00] NBI
[3:36:00] po
[3:36:00] itself
[3:36:01] hindi
[3:36:01] pa
[3:36:02] po
[3:36:02] namin
[3:36:08] kaya
[3:36:09] nga
[3:36:10] sabi
[3:36:10] ko
[3:36:10] po
[3:36:10] this
[3:36:10] is
[3:36:11] an
[3:36:11] open
[3:36:11] and
[3:36:11] shot
[3:36:11] case
[3:36:12] kasi
[3:36:12] po
[3:36:12] may
[3:36:13] mga
[3:36:13] nasasara
[3:36:13] kami
[3:36:14] pero
[3:36:14] meron
[3:36:15] pa
[3:36:15] rin
[3:36:15] po
[3:36:15] mga
[3:36:15] pumapasok
[3:36:16] na
[3:36:16] informasyon
[3:36:17] kagaya
[3:36:17] po
[3:36:17] nung
[3:36:17] galing
[3:36:18] kay
[3:36:19] Mr.
[3:36:19] Ragasa
[3:36:20] na
[3:36:20] binigay
[3:36:21] kaya
[3:36:22] po
[3:36:22] bubuwin
[3:36:23] po
[3:36:23] namin
[3:36:24] yun
[3:36:24] at
[3:36:24] pag
[3:36:24] natapos
[3:36:24] po
[3:36:25] we
[3:36:25] will
[3:36:25] come
[3:36:25] out
[3:36:25] with
[3:36:25] the
[3:36:26] recommendation
[3:36:26] and
[3:36:27] if
[3:36:27] charges
[3:36:27] can
[3:36:28] be
[3:36:28] filed
[3:36:28] following
[3:36:29] the
[3:36:29] MC
[3:36:30] 20
[3:36:30] na
[3:36:39] si
[3:36:39] attorney
[3:36:39] balikod
[3:36:40] po
[3:36:40] at
[3:36:40] yung
[3:36:41] labing
[3:36:41] walong
[3:36:41] bodyguards
[3:36:42] nasa
[3:36:43] taas
[3:36:43] pa
[3:36:43] rin
[3:36:43] po
[3:36:44] at
[3:36:44] patuloy
[3:36:44] ang
[3:36:44] pagbibigay
[3:36:45] ng
[3:36:45] press
[3:36:46] conference
[3:36:46] medyo
[3:36:47] maging
[3:36:48] kanilang
[3:36:48] mga
[3:36:48] pahayag
[3:36:49] po
[3:36:49] sa
[3:36:49] media
[3:36:50] nagkabali
[3:36:52] balik
[3:36:53] na
[3:36:53] dahil
[3:36:53] kanina
[3:36:54] sabi
[3:36:54] nila
[3:36:54] willing
[3:36:55] po
[3:36:55] silang
[3:36:55] buba
[3:36:56] and
[3:36:56] then
[3:36:56] kumambiy
[3:36:57] naman
[3:36:57] po
[3:36:58] si
[3:36:58] attorney
[3:36:58] balikod
[3:36:59] sabi
[3:36:59] naman
[3:37:00] po
[3:37:00] ayon
[3:37:00] na
[3:37:00] buba
[3:37:01] dahil
[3:37:01] baka
[3:37:01] masight
[3:37:02] daw
[3:37:02] sila
[3:37:02] ng
[3:37:02] contempt
[3:37:03] ng
[3:37:03] committee
[3:37:04] na
[3:37:04] ito
[3:37:04] dahil
[3:37:05] sa
[3:37:05] umano
[3:37:05] yung
[3:37:06] titig-iisipin
[3:37:08] natin
[3:37:08] nagsisinungaling
[3:37:09] sila
[3:37:09] pero
[3:37:10] nevertheless
[3:37:10] po
[3:37:11] ayaw
[3:37:11] po
[3:37:11] nilang
[3:37:11] mag-attend
[3:37:12] sa
[3:37:12] hearing
[3:37:13] sa
[3:37:13] meeting
[3:37:13] na
[3:37:14] ito
[3:37:14] tatlong
[3:37:15] beses
[3:37:15] na
[3:37:15] po
[3:37:16] simula
[3:37:16] kanina
[3:37:16] po
[3:37:17] na
[3:37:17] mag-umpisa
[3:37:17] tayo
[3:37:18] as
[3:37:18] 9
[3:37:18] pasado
[3:37:19] hanggang
[3:37:19] ngayon
[3:37:20] ayaw
[3:37:21] po
[3:37:21] nilang
[3:37:21] bumaba
[3:37:22] despite
[3:37:22] the
[3:37:23] fact
[3:37:23] na
[3:37:23] may
[3:37:24] inutusan
[3:37:24] na
[3:37:24] po
[3:37:24] tayo
[3:37:25] sa
[3:37:25] blue
[3:37:25] ribbon
[3:37:25] na
[3:37:26] secretariat
[3:37:27] wala
[3:37:27] po
[3:37:28] silang
[3:37:28] sagot
[3:37:28] at
[3:37:29] patuloy
[3:37:29] po
[3:37:29] kanila
[3:37:30] pag
[3:37:30] bibigay
[3:37:31] ng
[3:37:31] press
[3:37:31] con
[3:37:31] nililin
[3:37:33] lang
[3:37:33] din po
[3:37:33] nilang
[3:37:33] sambayanan
[3:37:35] oo
[3:37:35] pero
[3:37:36] mamaya
[3:37:36] maya
[3:37:37] sinasabi
[3:37:37] eh
[3:37:38] hindi
[3:37:38] na
[3:37:38] lamang
[3:37:39] po
[3:37:39] so
[3:37:40] sa
[3:37:41] ngayon
[3:37:41] po
[3:37:41] ayaw
[3:37:41] po
[3:37:42] talaga
[3:37:42] nilang
[3:37:42] umaten
[3:37:43] mga
[3:37:44] kasama
[3:37:44] na
[3:37:45] dito
[3:37:45] po
[3:37:46] sa
[3:37:46] ating
[3:37:46] ipinatawag
[3:37:47] po
[3:37:47] na
[3:37:48] meeting
[3:37:48] well
[3:37:49] it
[3:37:49] makes
[3:37:50] us
[3:37:50] question
[3:37:51] their
[3:37:52] credibility
[3:37:53] at
[3:37:53] kanila
[3:37:53] pong
[3:37:54] motibo
[3:37:54] pumunta
[3:37:55] po
[3:37:55] sila
[3:37:55] dito
[3:37:56] pero
[3:37:56] ay
[3:37:56] naman
[3:37:56] po
[3:37:57] nilang
[3:37:57] bumaba
[3:37:58] dito
[3:37:58] sa
[3:37:58] meeting
[3:38:00] po
[3:38:00] na
[3:38:00] ito
[3:38:01] eh
[3:38:02] parang
[3:38:02] ito
[3:38:02] po
[3:38:02] isang
[3:38:03] press
[3:38:03] release
[3:38:05] isa
[3:38:05] pong
[3:38:06] optics
[3:38:06] para
[3:38:07] sabihin
[3:38:07] po
[3:38:08] na
[3:38:08] dumalo
[3:38:08] sila
[3:38:09] rito
[3:38:09] pero
[3:38:10] sa
[3:38:10] totoo
[3:38:11] po
[3:38:11] ilang
[3:38:11] beses
[3:38:11] po
[3:38:11] nating
[3:38:12] inimbitahan
[3:38:13] ayaw
[3:38:13] po
[3:38:13] nilang
[3:38:14] bumaba
[3:38:15] po
[3:38:15] rito
[3:38:16] sa
[3:38:16] ating
[3:38:16] tanggapan
[3:38:17] and yet
[3:38:18] ang gusto
[3:38:18] lamang
[3:38:18] po
[3:38:18] nila
[3:38:19] mag
[3:38:19] press
[3:38:19] con
[3:38:19] sa
[3:38:21] taas
[3:38:21] to
[3:38:24] documents
[3:38:25] and
[3:38:25] status
[3:38:26] updates
[3:38:26] of
[3:38:26] the
[3:38:27] to
[3:38:27] this
[3:38:27] committee
[3:38:28] at
[3:38:28] the
[3:38:29] appropriate
[3:38:29] time
[3:38:29] we
[3:38:30] shall
[3:38:30] determine
[3:38:30] further
[3:38:31] measures
[3:38:31] to
[3:38:32] ensure
[3:38:32] accountability
[3:38:33] we
[3:38:35] sympathize
[3:38:36] with the
[3:38:36] victims
[3:38:37] of the
[3:38:37] earthquake
[3:38:37] in
[3:38:37] Mindanao
[3:38:38] kaya
[3:38:38] po
[3:38:38] dalawang
[3:38:39] bagay
[3:38:39] tatapusin
[3:38:40] na po
[3:38:40] muna
[3:38:41] natin
[3:38:41] we
[3:38:41] suspend
[3:38:42] this
[3:38:42] meeting
[3:38:42] bilang
[3:38:44] paggalang
[3:38:45] po
[3:38:45] sa
[3:38:46] mga
[3:38:46] biktima
[3:38:47] po
[3:38:48] ng
[3:38:48] maltinding
[3:38:49] Lindol
[3:38:50] ngayon
[3:38:51] dyan
[3:38:51] po
[3:38:51] sa
[3:38:51] Mindanao
[3:38:52] at
[3:38:53] nakausap
[3:38:54] ko po
[3:38:55] ang
[3:38:55] acting
[3:38:55] senate
[3:38:56] president
[3:38:57] na
[3:38:58] anytime
[3:38:59] po
[3:38:59] ay
[3:39:00] pupunta
[3:39:00] po
[3:39:01] ang
[3:39:01] mga
[3:39:01] miyembro
[3:39:02] ng
[3:39:02] majority
[3:39:02] block
[3:39:03] para
[3:39:03] marinig
[3:39:04] at
[3:39:05] makita
[3:39:05] po
[3:39:05] ang
[3:39:05] pangangailangan
[3:39:06] ng mga
[3:39:07] biktima
[3:39:07] po
[3:39:07] ng
[3:39:08] ikang
[3:39:09] Lindol
[3:39:10] at the
[3:39:10] same
[3:39:11] time
[3:39:11] since
[3:39:12] ayah
[3:39:12] naman
[3:39:12] po
[3:39:12] bumaba
[3:39:13] ng
[3:39:13] labing
[3:39:14] walong
[3:39:14] bodyguards
[3:39:15] kasama
[3:39:16] si
[3:39:16] attorney
[3:39:16] baligod
[3:39:16] so
[3:39:17] we
[3:39:18] hereby
[3:39:18] just
[3:39:19] very
[3:39:19] quickly
[3:39:20] Mr.
[3:39:20] President
[3:39:20] at
[3:39:20] some
[3:39:21] iimbitayan
[3:39:21] po
[3:39:22] natin
[3:39:22] ulit
[3:39:22] itong
[3:39:23] labing
[3:39:23] walon
[3:39:23] na
[3:39:24] ito
[3:39:24] sa
[3:39:25] susunod
[3:39:25] na
[3:39:26] pagpupulong
[3:39:27] at
[3:39:28] sa
[3:39:29] darating
[3:39:30] namang
[3:39:30] araw
[3:39:30] at
[3:39:31] the
[3:39:31] proper
[3:39:31] time
[3:39:32] kung
[3:39:32] if
[3:39:33] they
[3:39:33] continue
[3:39:33] to
[3:39:34] refuse
[3:39:34] we
[3:39:34] can
[3:39:35] at
[3:39:35] the
[3:39:35] right
[3:39:36] time
[3:39:36] compel
[3:39:36] them
[3:39:37] to
[3:39:37] attend
[3:39:37] subpena
[3:39:38] them
[3:39:38] and
[3:39:38] if
[3:39:39] they
[3:39:39] refuse
[3:39:39] we
[3:39:39] can
[3:39:40] have
[3:39:41] them
[3:39:41] cited
[3:39:42] in
[3:39:42] contempt
[3:39:43] and
[3:39:43] may
[3:39:43] be
[3:39:44] arrested
[3:39:44] when
[3:39:45] the
[3:39:45] Blue
[3:39:46] Ribbon
[3:39:46] Committee
[3:39:46] has
[3:39:47] been
[3:39:47] fully
[3:39:47] constituted
[3:39:48] for the
[3:39:48] record
[3:39:49] Mr.
[3:39:49] President
[3:39:49] Definitely
[3:39:49] Vice
[3:39:50] Chair
[3:39:50] kasi
[3:39:51] nga
[3:39:51] nagpupunta
[3:39:53] sila
[3:39:53] sa ating
[3:39:53] usina
[3:39:54] para
[3:39:54] ma-insult
[3:39:55] pupunta
[3:39:55] po
[3:39:56] sa tanggapan
[3:39:56] isa
[3:39:56] sa kasama
[3:39:57] natin
[3:39:57] at
[3:39:57] doon
[3:39:58] magka
[3:39:58] press
[3:39:58] conference
[3:39:59] ayaw
[3:39:59] po
[3:40:00] mong
[3:40:00] matin
[3:40:00] ng
[3:40:00] meeting
[3:40:00] pinapakita
[3:40:02] po
[3:40:02] optics
[3:40:03] nila
[3:40:03] pupunta
[3:40:03] po
[3:40:04] sila
[3:40:04] dito
[3:40:04] matapang
[3:40:05] silang
[3:40:05] pumunta
[3:40:05] pero
[3:40:05] ayaw
[3:40:06] nilang
[3:40:06] bumaba
[3:40:07] dito
[3:40:07] sa
[3:40:07] meeting
[3:40:08] na
[3:40:08] ito
[3:40:08] so
[3:40:09] is
[3:40:10] gayong
[3:40:10] paman
[3:40:10] before
[3:40:12] we
[3:40:12] suspend
[3:40:13] this
[3:40:14] meeting
[3:40:14] I would
[3:40:14] like
[3:40:14] to
[3:40:15] personally
[3:40:15] thank
[3:40:16] ang
[3:40:16] buong
[3:40:17] majority
[3:40:18] block
[3:40:18] sa
[3:40:19] staff
[3:40:20] po
[3:40:20] ng
[3:40:20] Blue
[3:40:21] Ribbon
[3:40:21] Committee
[3:40:22] sa
[3:40:22] USA
[3:40:22] sa
[3:40:23] PRIB
[3:40:23] at
[3:40:24] sa
[3:40:24] lahat
[3:40:24] ng
[3:40:24] Senate
[3:40:25] staff
[3:40:25] na
[3:40:26] faithfully
[3:40:27] fulfilling
[3:40:28] their
[3:40:28] duties
[3:40:29] and
[3:40:29] for
[3:40:29] showing
[3:40:29] up
[3:40:30] today
[3:40:30] despite
[3:40:31] the
[3:40:31] fact
[3:40:31] na
[3:40:31] mayroong
[3:40:32] threats
[3:40:32] sa
[3:40:32] kanila
[3:40:33] na
[3:40:33] ididimanda
[3:40:34] sisibakin
[3:40:35] po
[3:40:35] ng
[3:40:35] minority
[3:40:36] block
[3:40:36] so
[3:40:48] with
[3:40:48] this
[3:40:49] this
[3:40:49] meeting
[3:40:49] is now
[3:40:50] suspended
[3:40:50] until
[3:40:51] further
[3:40:51] notice