About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of Jodi Arias Trial - Day 21 - Part 1 (cross examination) from croakerqueen123, published July 1, 2026. The transcript contains 19,913 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
". . . Please rise to the prayer. . . . Please be seated. The record will show the presence of the jury, the defendant, and all counsel. This areas you are still under oath. Do you understand? Yes. Mr. Martinez, you may cross-examine the witness. Take a look at Exhibit 413. You recognize that..."
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[00:00:12] Speaker 1: Please rise to the prayer.
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[00:00:43] Speaker 2: Please be seated. The record will show the presence of the jury, the defendant, and all counsel. This areas you are still under oath. Do you understand? Yes. Mr. Martinez, you may cross-examine the witness.
[00:00:54] Speaker 1: Take a look at Exhibit 413. You recognize that exhibit, correct? Yes. And that's a picture of you, correct? Yes. Right here? And the other one is a picture of your dumb sister, Angela, correct?
[00:01:15] Speaker 3: That's my sister. She's not dumb.
[00:01:19] Speaker 1: Well, do you remember having a conversation with Travis Alexander back on May 10th of 2008?
[00:01:25] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:01:26] Speaker 1: And do you remember that you tape-recorded that conversation? Yes. And during that conversation, isn't it true that you said, "But I honestly think, talking about Angela, she's a little bit dumb." You said that, right?
[00:01:42] Speaker 3: Yes, I called her dumb and stupid.
[00:01:44] Speaker 1: Did I ask you whether or not you called her stupid, ma'am?
[00:01:48] Speaker 3: No.
[00:01:49] Speaker 1: I asked you whether or not you called her dumb, right?
[00:01:51] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:01:57] Speaker 1: Ma'am, take a look at Exhibit 452. Do you recognize the two people there? Yes. And this photograph was taken by your camera, correct?
[00:02:19] Speaker 3: It looks like it.
[00:02:22] Speaker 1: Well, when you say it looks like it, isn't it part of the same photographs that are involved in Exhibit 413? I think it is.
[00:02:29] Speaker ?: Well, Exhibit 413.
[00:02:30] Speaker 3: I think it is.
[00:02:31] Speaker 1: Well, Exhibit 413, that was taken on May 10th, we'll bring it in, of 2008, right? Yes. And this photograph here, Exhibit 413, features the color of your hair, doesn't it?
[00:02:54] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:02:55] Speaker 1: Exhibit 452 also features the color of your hair, doesn't it?
[00:02:58] Speaker 3: Yes, a different part of my hair.
[00:03:00] Speaker 1: And this was taken sometime in May of 2008, correct? This exhibit? No. Exhibit number 452.
[00:03:07] Speaker 3: I only remember it was this spring, I think.
[00:03:09] Speaker 1: Of 2008?
[00:03:10] Speaker 3: Yes.
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[00:17:25] Speaker 1: Injection, lack of foundation. Injection, lack of foundation. Injection, lack of foundation. Injection, lack of foundation. Injection, lack of foundation. So, ma'am, to go back to this issue involving the text messages. One of the things that you told us was that there was a text message that you sent to somebody by the name of Steve. Steve Carroll, right? Yes. And that it was a two-part text message, right? Yes. And this two-part text message, one part ended up going to Mr. Alexander, right?
[00:18:02] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:18:04] Speaker 1: And that he got upset about it, right? Very, yes. And after he got upset about it, one of the things that he wanted was to see the second part of this text message, right? Yes. And so you lied to him at that point, right? No. Well, you fabricated a second text message, didn't you?
[00:18:24] Speaker 3: After that point, yes.
[00:18:25] Speaker 1: So, are you telling me that fabricating a text message is not a lie? No, I'm not saying that. So you did lie to him, Mr. Alexander, right? That's a nasty answer.
[00:18:37] Speaker ?: Yes and no.
[00:18:37] Speaker 1: So you think that sending him that text message and telling him this is the second part of the text message, that that's not a lie even though you fabricated it? That part was the lie.
[00:18:55] Speaker 3: That part was the lie.
[00:18:56] Speaker 1: And so, you then were asked the question, well, how did that make you feel when Mr. Alexander was sending you these text messages involving Mr. Carroll? Do you remember that line of questioning? Yes. We're applying a different standard here then, right? Objection argumentative. With regard to this issue of how you feel, isn't that the same way that you felt when you were peeping in his window in August of 2007? Isn't that the same kind of feeling that you were having? The same as what? As the one involving Steve Carroll.
[00:19:43] Speaker ?: I don't know.
[00:19:45] Speaker 1: You were mad at Mr. Alexander of all times, weren't you?
[00:19:48] Speaker 3: I wasn't mad at Alexander.
[00:19:50] Speaker 1: You weren't mad at him or you were upset with him then, right?
[00:19:54] Speaker 3: At what time? Either time. Steve, Carol, no. The girl from Phoenix, yes.
[00:20:01] Speaker 1: And so it just seems that it's okay for you to lie to him about a guy, but when it comes to him being with some other girl, you decide to confront him, right? Yes. And one of the other things that you told us yesterday was that you were monogamous with Mr. Alexander, right? Sexually monogamous, yes. Ma'am, you told us you were monogamous and that's what monogamous means sexually, doesn't it?
[00:20:31] Speaker 3: I think it means more than that sometimes.
[00:20:36] Speaker 1: Well, in this case monogamous means sexually, doesn't it?
[00:20:43] Speaker 2: Restate your question.
[00:20:45] Speaker 1: When you say monogamous, it means sexually, doesn't it?
[00:20:49] Speaker 3: Which time?
[00:20:51] Speaker 1: The time that we're talking about right now, involving Mr. Alexander, no other time.
[00:20:56] Speaker 3: Our relationship evolved, so...
[00:20:58] Speaker 1: I'm not asking you if it evolved. At the end, right when you killed him, you indicated that you were monogamous with him, right? Yes. And at that time, you then left the killing scene, if you will, and you went up to Utah, right?
[00:21:13] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:21:14] Speaker 1: And when you went up to Utah, ma'am, you ended up with somebody by the name of Ryan Burns,
[00:21:18] Speaker 3: right?
[00:21:19] Speaker 1: Yes. And you ended up in his bed, right?
[00:21:22] Speaker 3: I think it was a love sack. Okay.
[00:21:24] Speaker 1: And with regard to that, at that point, according to you, Mr. Alexander still wasn't dead, was he?
[00:21:31] Speaker 3: It wasn't discussed.
[00:21:33] Speaker 1: Well, did I ask you whether or not you discussed it with Mr. Burns? I didn't, did I?
[00:21:39] Speaker 3: I wasn't talking about Mr. Burns.
[00:21:41] Speaker 1: Okay. I'm asking you, at that time, didn't you tell us yesterday, at the time that you went up to Utah, you weren't sure if he was dead? Do you remember telling us that?
[00:21:50] Speaker 3: Not in Utah, from the Hoover Dam, or right before the checkpoint.
[00:21:56] Speaker 1: So, when did you know that he was dead? Tell me that.
[00:22:03] Speaker 3: Well, I got confirmation of it on June 10th, but --
[00:22:07] Speaker 1: So, okay, if you got confirmation on June 10th, you met with Mr. Burns, what? Before June 10th, didn't you? Yes. You met him on the 5th, right?
[00:22:16] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:22:17] Speaker 1: And so, at that point, you did know, according to your own story, that Mr. Alexander was dead, right?
[00:22:26] Speaker 3: I guess I knew -- I didn't -- I wasn't accepting it.
[00:22:32] Speaker 1: You either knew or you didn't. Which one is it, ma'am? Make up your mind, please. Objection. Ask an answer.
[00:22:38] Speaker 2: Ask another question.
[00:22:40] Speaker 1: Did you know he was dead when you were Mr. Burns and he were kissing? Objection. Ask an answer. This is the same question.
[00:22:49] Speaker 3: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah, I think I did.
[00:22:53] Speaker 1: You think he did, but you're not sure at that point.
[00:22:58] Speaker 3: I don't -- it wasn't really in my own mind. I was out of my mind, sort of.
[00:23:02] Speaker 1: So, if you didn't think he was dead, if that portion of you didn't think he was dead, then it's okay for you, at that point, if you didn't think he was dead, to sort of roll around with Mr. Alexander -- with Mr. Burns. Then that was okay, right?
[00:23:19] Speaker 3: I'm single. Right?
[00:23:21] Speaker 1: Just like he was on August 7th of -- on August 8th of -- in August of 2007, right?
[00:23:28] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:23:29] Speaker 1: So, it's okay for you, then it should be okay for him, right?
[00:23:32] Speaker 3: It was okay.
[00:23:33] Speaker 1: Then why did you confront him the next day, if it was okay? Because he was still courting me. I wanted to know where I stood. And so, because of -- he was still -- your definition courting you, you felt that you deserved an explanation, right? Yes. Didn't -- hadn't you just had intercourse with Mr. Alexander on the 4th of June? Yes. And if he was still alive, he would have deserved an explanation, then, for you being with Mr. Burns, right? No. Well, no, isn't -- aren't we -- that's -- you're applying a different standard here, aren't you?
[00:24:01] Speaker 3: No.
[00:24:02] Speaker 1: You're saying it's okay for you to confront him about the situation, but not okay for Mr. Alexander to confront you, right?
[00:24:09] Speaker 3: If he wanted to confront me, it would have been okay.
[00:24:12] Speaker 1: Ma'am, with regard to the exhibit number 452, it does show you, right?
[00:24:20] Speaker ?: Correct?
[00:24:21] Speaker 1: Yes. And it shows, again, Angela, correct?
[00:24:25] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:24:26] Speaker 1: It shows something else on your boat, doesn't it? Doesn't it show your hand? Yes. Yes. And in fact, let me show you another close-up of that hand.
[00:24:37] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[00:25:07] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you.
[00:25:43] Speaker 1: Take a look at exhibit number 453 and then also take a look at exhibit 455. Exhibit 453 is a close-up of your hand, right? Yes. And you can also see the jewelry around your sister's neck in exhibit 453, correct? Yes. And you previously have told us about exhibit 452 and when it was taken and who's in that photograph, correct? Yes. I move for the admission of exhibit 453. No objection.
[00:26:17] Speaker 2: No objection. No objection.
[00:26:36] Speaker 1: And ma'am, this was also taken according to your testimony on May 15th. Let's take a look at that of 2008. That's a picture of your left hand, isn't it?
[00:26:49] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:26:50] Speaker 1: And that shows your ring finger, right?
[00:26:52] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:26:52] Speaker 1: Do you remember that you testified that on January 22nd of 2008, you and Mr. Alexander were involved in some sort of violent encounter. Do you remember telling us about that? Yes. And you told us that during that encounter, he threw you down. Do you remember that?
[00:27:07] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:27:07] Speaker 1: And while you were down that he kicked you, right?
[00:27:10] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:27:11] Speaker 1: And when he kicked you, ma'am, one of the things that happened was that you put up your left hand. Do you remember telling us that?
[00:27:17] Speaker 3: Yes, both hands.
[00:27:18] Speaker 1: Well, you told us specifically about your left hand, right?
[00:27:21] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:27:22] Speaker 1: And when you went to put up your left hand, according to you, he kicked you and he damaged your ring finger on the left hand, correct?
[00:27:30] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:27:31] Speaker 1: And in fact, you even held it up for us, didn't you?
[00:27:34] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:27:34] Speaker 1: And it was crooked when you showed it to us, wasn't it? It's bent, yes. It's bent. Show us how bent it is again, ma'am. It's higher, so we can see it sideways. Ma'am, if he caused that damage on January 22nd of 2008, that would have been before this picture that we have here, which is exhibit number 453, it would have been about five months before that, right?
[00:28:04] Speaker 3: It was before that.
[00:28:06] Speaker 1: Five months, right?
[00:28:08] Speaker 3: Four.
[00:28:09] Speaker 1: Four months then, right? Yes. You don't have a bent finger here in exhibit 453, do you?
[00:28:15] Speaker 3: My finger is bent there.
[00:28:17] Speaker 1: You're saying that your finger is bent there.
[00:28:19] Speaker 3: Yes. Just the same thing.
[00:28:20] Speaker 1: Hold up your finger again. Sideways so we could also see it.
[00:28:24] Speaker 3: When my fingers are straightened, this one stays bent.
[00:28:26] Speaker 1: And that's what it looks like, your finger. And you're saying that's what happened on January 22nd, 2008, right?
[00:28:32] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:28:33] Speaker 1: Ma'am, one of the other things involving this particular finger, it seems to have had its run, if you will, of bad things happened to it, right?
[00:28:43] Speaker 3: This finger?
[00:28:44] Speaker 1: Yes, the left ring finger.
[00:28:49] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[00:28:50] Speaker 1: Well, you talked to Ryan Burns about it, didn't you?
[00:28:53] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:28:54] Speaker 1: And you told him that that finger, the left ring finger, had been damaged, right? Injured, didn't you?
[00:29:04] Speaker 3: I don't know if it was the left.
[00:29:06] Speaker 1: You don't remember telling him it was the left ring finger?
[00:29:09] Speaker 3: No.
[00:29:11] Speaker 1: Do you, again, do you have a problem with memory? Occasionally. And so, some of the things that you've told us, for example, then, about other things in the past, you may have also had problems with your memory then, right? Yes. And so, whatever you told us in the past is somewhat suspect, then, because your memory may be lacking. You're actually an argumentative.
[00:29:36] Speaker 3: I only told things I remember clearly that are crystallized in my mind.
[00:29:40] Speaker 1: With regard to Mr. Burns, you do remember who he was, right?
[00:29:44] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:29:45] Speaker 1: And you do remember that you went over to West Jordan to meet him, right?
[00:29:49] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:29:49] Speaker 1: And you do remember that you did meet him that Thursday, and it was sometime around 11 o'clock in the morning, right?
[00:29:56] Speaker 3: I think so, yes.
[00:29:58] Speaker 1: And when you met him, you guys decided to go somewhere to a restaurant for some sort of business meeting, right?
[00:30:03] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:30:04] Speaker 1: And during that time, didn't you have a bandage on your finger? Yes. And it was your left finger, wasn't it?
[00:30:12] Speaker 3: No.
[00:30:13] Speaker 1: It was your right finger then, right?
[00:30:15] Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying it was your right finger? It was two right fingers.
[00:30:18] Speaker 1: So it was your right finger then, right? Ma'am, are you sure that it was your right finger?
[00:30:25] Speaker 3: It was two. Pardon? Two right fingers.
[00:30:28] Speaker 1: Do you remember then that you had a conversation with Detective Flores about this issue involving the finger? Yes. And do you remember that that was on July 16th of 2008? Yes. And you remember that you told him that on June 4th, you had been over at Mr. Alexander's home, right?
[00:30:47] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:30:48] Speaker 1: And you told him that you were over at Mr. Alexander's home and that some guy and some girl had come in, right? Yes. And during whatever happened on June 4th, you told Detective Flores that it was your left finger that had been damaged. Do you remember that? Yes. So you did tell that to the detective that it happened on June 4th, right? Yes. Does that then refresh your recollection and we'll play it so that we know what we're talking about an objection that she's already meant to it? We're moving it in without the future purpose. It's just moving it in. Stay versus backward.
[00:31:33] Speaker 2: Approach from Council.
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[00:35:12] Speaker 2: Thank you. 454 is admitted.
[00:35:41] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You said you were fighting with her. Yeah. What happened to you? She cut me.
[00:36:16] Speaker 3: Where at? My hand.
[00:36:18] Speaker ?: Let me see.
[00:36:19] Speaker 3: Where at? Can you show me? You know she can't see it. If you look at him. My finger isn't the same though. I was. Let me see. Which. Where is. Where did it get cut?
[00:36:31] Speaker ?: It was.
[00:36:32] Speaker 3: Conveniently it was right on the crease. Right down the crease. Can you see? Oh it's kind of a purpler color. I guess. This one here. Can you do this? Yeah right on the crease. Oh there's a vein on this one maybe.
[00:36:46] Speaker 1: I don't know. Is this one here? Yeah.
[00:36:49] Speaker ?: So it's sliced there.
[00:36:50] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[00:36:51] Speaker 3: Just a small one?
[00:36:52] Speaker 1: Um.
[00:36:53] Speaker ?: Or was it pretty deep?
[00:36:54] Speaker 3: I don't know how deep it was but my finger hurt for a while. Okay. So like right in that crease that you. Right across both of them? Not my middle finger. I may have cut this one a little but not as much. This is where it really went. I don't know how it happened that all these other fingers were missed. But this one. Maybe that. I don't know. This one. Like I still can't close this finger all the way. It's as close as it goes. Whereas this one goes like that. Uh huh. Also my CTR ring used to fit both fingers and I can't get it on this finger anymore. So it cut pretty deep then. I guess if you feel it, squeeze it. It just feels like bone. Like there's nothing that normal there. Uh huh. But again like my CTR ring slides right on this finger and it just slide right off this finger and I just can't fit a ring on here. Okay. It's a bigger size now. I left this here. What's that from? That's mine. Okay. I'm pretty sure.
[00:37:42] Speaker ?: She scratches me. That tape or that videotape right?
[00:37:44] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:37:45] Speaker 1: And that's you having the conversation discussing the left ring finger right? Yes. And you demonstrated to Detective Floris that left ring finger right?
[00:38:04] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:38:05] Speaker 1: And you told him that this woman during this attack on June 4th of 2008 cut you right? And they cut you right there, didn't you? Yes. And you showed him and the finger, if we look at it there, had the same aspect or had the same angle to it that your finger does now, doesn't it?
[00:38:22] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:38:23] Speaker 1: Ma'am, the injury to your finger happened on June 4th, 2008, not January 22nd of 2008, did it?
[00:38:35] Speaker 3: That's not correct.
[00:38:37] Speaker 1: Okay. Ma'am, with regard to the story involving this particular issue, you told us that it happened on January 22nd of 2008, right?
[00:38:59] Speaker 3: Which issue?
[00:39:00] Speaker 1: The left ring finger. Yes. And then discussed it, there was this issue with Ryan Burns, right?
[00:39:09] Speaker 3: Which issue? The cut finger.
[00:39:12] Speaker 1: The cut finger, yes.
[00:39:13] Speaker 3: And then... Two cut fingers.
[00:39:15] Speaker 1: On July 16th of 2008, you discussed it with Detective Flores, right? Yes. One of the things that you told Mr. Burns was that you cut it at Margaritaville while you were working there, right? No.
[00:39:30] Speaker 3: I did not say that.
[00:39:31] Speaker 1: You never told him that then, right?
[00:39:32] Speaker 3: I said at work.
[00:39:33] Speaker 1: So you never told him Margaritaville then, right?
[00:39:36] Speaker 3: No, he said that.
[00:39:38] Speaker ?: Right.
[00:39:39] Speaker 1: But you never told him that you cut it at Margaritaville, right?
[00:39:43] Speaker 3: No.
[00:39:44] Speaker 1: You told him that you cut it at work then, right?
[00:39:47] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:39:48] Speaker 1: And then when you spoke to Detective Flores, you gave him a different story. You didn't say that it was cut at work. You told him that it was cut some other way, right? Yes. And then you testified about it in this court, right?
[00:40:00] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:40:01] Speaker 1: And you gave us another story of how this happened, right?
[00:40:05] Speaker 3: No.
[00:40:06] Speaker 1: Well, do you remember that you testified that you were at Mr. Alexander's home on June 4th of 2008 at the sink? Do you remember telling us that? Yes. And do you remember telling us that, that you dropped the glass in Mr. Alexander's house? June 4th? Whatever date you were there at Mr. Alexander's house.
[00:40:24] Speaker 3: I broke more than one glass at his house.
[00:40:27] Speaker 1: Ma'am, do you remember testifying yesterday about how you suffered this injury to your finger? Yes or no?
[00:40:34] Speaker 3: Not this finger.
[00:40:37] Speaker 1: No? Do you remember testifying that involving your finger, your left ring finger yesterday, as a matter of fact, that that was cut when you dropped the glass when you were at Mr. Alexander's house on the day that you killed him?
[00:40:54] Speaker 3: I did not indicate my left finger.
[00:40:55] Speaker 1: Oh, so you were saying it was your right finger that you cut in Mr. Alexander's house then, right? It was my right finger, yes. So, throughout this whole thing, Mr. Burns, when he indicated what finger it was, he was mistaken. Well, not he was mistaken. You're saying you never told Mr. Burns that it was the right finger that you cut, right? Okay.
[00:41:14] Speaker 3: We didn't discuss which hand. Okay.
[00:41:18] Speaker 1: So, you never indicated to him in any way, shape, or form that it was the right finger? Did you actually ask him to answer? This thing. Ma'am, this issue of the 22nd of January, 22nd, when you say that you were injured, you kept a journal, didn't you?
[00:41:47] Speaker ?: Yes, I did.
[00:41:48] Speaker 1: And, you didn't write in it all the time, but you wrote in it some of the time, right? Frequently, yes. Frequently. And, you were writing about what was going on in your life back in January of 2008, right? Yes. And, you were writing about things that were significant to you, right? Some things. Right. And, in fact, with regard to this particular journal, you knew that you could almost write anything that you wanted in it because it was going to stay private, right?
[00:42:22] Speaker ?: No.
[00:42:23] Speaker 1: Well, ma'am, let me show you one of the parts for a minute as it is.
[00:42:41] Speaker ?: Thank you.
[00:43:11] Speaker 1: Thank you. And that's your journal, right?
[00:43:45] Speaker 3: Sure is.
[00:43:46] Speaker 1: All right, that was that. Take a look at the entry, just read it to yourself, on Sunday, August 26th of 07. The whole entry. Just read the first five lines. Six lines.
[00:44:22] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:44:23] Speaker 1: You wrote that, right? Yes. Take a look at exhibit number 455. Is this a true and accurate copy of those five or six lines? Yes. And you wrote that back on August 26th of 07, right? Yes. I may have that back, please. I move for the admission of exhibit number 4. I may have that back on August 26th.
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[00:46:16] Speaker 2: I may have that back on August 26th.
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[00:53:44] Speaker 3: I may have that back on August 26th. I may have that back on August 26th.
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[00:54:27] Speaker 1: This journal and your journals were meant to be private, right? Yes. And that's what it says there. Well, I guess it's a good thing that nobody else reads this because I write right now that I love Travis Victor Alexander so completely that I don't know any other way to be. Correct? That's what it says. Yes. Do you remember when we started talking this morning that we talked about an incident where you went over to his house?
[00:54:58] Speaker 3: Yes.
[00:54:59] Speaker 1: And this was the incident that you referenced involving the killing, right? That it went through your head, right?
[00:55:05] Speaker 3: Are you talking about the incident in August 2007? Right.
[00:55:11] Speaker 1: Exactly. And that incident in August of 2007 where you went over and peeped inside of his house happened before this entry here of Sunday, August 26th of 2007, right? Yes.
[00:55:22] Speaker 2: What was the last thing you said? He said by saying peeped.
[00:55:24] Speaker ?: Restate your question.
[00:55:25] Speaker 2: When he looked inside the house. Yes, it did happen before this entry.
[00:55:27] Speaker 1: Right. And so really the reason why you confronted Mr. Alexander was not because he owed you an explanation
[00:55:29] Speaker 2: or anything like that.
[00:55:31] Speaker 3: The reason you confronted him back in August 2007 was because you were in love with him and
[00:55:38] Speaker 1: you didn't want to let him go, right? That was the actual argumentative. That's not right.
[00:55:41] Speaker ?: That's not right.
[00:55:41] Speaker 1: But I was in love with him. Yes. You did write this though, didn't you? Yes. Now, you kept more than one journal.
[00:55:46] Speaker ?: You kept a number of journals, right?
[00:55:46] Speaker 1: I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time.
[00:55:48] Speaker ?: And I kept one journal at a time.
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[00:55:55] Speaker 2: And I kept one journal at a time.
[00:55:56] Speaker ?: And I kept one journal at a time.
[00:55:57] Speaker 3: And I kept one journal at a time. And I kept one journal at a time.
[00:55:59] Speaker ?: And I kept one journal at a time.
[00:56:00] Speaker 3: And I kept one journal at a time.
[00:56:02] Speaker 1: You did write this though, didn't you? Yes. Now, you kept more than one journal. You kept a number of journals, right?
[00:56:11] Speaker 3: I kept one journal at a time. Okay.
[00:56:16] Speaker 1: Let's take a look at another journal.
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[01:02:54] Speaker 1: I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. I kept one journal at a time. There's a gap of four days between the time you wrote on January 20th and on January 24th of 2008, right? Yes. Nothing in between, correct?
[01:03:34] Speaker 3: Not in the journal.
[01:03:36] Speaker 1: I'm asking about the journal, ma'am. That's correct. Is there anything else in front of you? Ask and answer, Your Honor, an argumentative.
[01:03:43] Speaker 3: The state.
[01:03:44] Speaker 1: In the journal, ma'am, there are no other entries between January 20th of 2008 and January 24th of 2008, right?
[01:03:53] Speaker 3: Yes.
[01:03:54] Speaker 1: If we then take a look at exhibit 456, let's see what you wrote on Thursday, January 24th of 2008. You wrote, I haven't written because there has been nothing noteworthy to report, correct?
[01:04:13] Speaker 3: Yes.
[01:04:14] Speaker 1: Didn't you tell us, involving the finger, that this injury to your left finger when Mr. Alexander went to kick you, that that happened on January 22nd of 2008?
[01:04:27] Speaker 3: Yes, it did.
[01:04:28] Speaker 1: And yet you write here that nothing noteworthy has happened, right? Yes. And then you also write that you turned down four offers for a date on Friday night, right? Yes. You were free to date and so was he, right? Yes. Yes. And then you finish it out by talking about going up to the snow, right?
[01:04:54] Speaker ?: See that?
[01:04:55] Speaker 1: Yes. You're going to go up there skiing, you crossed it out and you just are going to go up to the snow, right? Yes. Did you go skiing? No, I don't ski.
[01:05:04] Speaker 3: Pardon?
[01:05:05] Speaker 1: I don't ski.
[01:05:06] Speaker 3: No, I didn't go. All right.
[01:05:08] Speaker 1: The entry of January 20th of 2008, take a look at exhibit number 242.02. Count the pages, please. The pages between the two? No, just the entry of Sunday, January 20th of 2008. Do you want me to show you where it is here?
[01:05:48] Speaker 3: I have it. It's four and a few lines.
[01:05:58] Speaker 1: And it starts on the lower left-hand corner with three lines to become a date, indicating January 20th of 2008, right?
[01:06:07] Speaker 3: Yes. And I'm sorry, I misspoke. It's five pages and a few lines.
[01:06:11] Speaker 1: And in it, one of the things that you talk about is this issue involving Lonnie's baptism, right? I haven't read it.
[01:06:19] Speaker 3: Can I read it?
[01:06:20] Speaker 1: Sure. Thank you.
[01:06:22] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
[01:08:26] Speaker 3: Thank you. If you're going to ask me about the rest of the entry, I can read the rest.
[01:08:58] Speaker 1: I'm asking you about reading the whole entry of Sunday, June 20th, 2008. Go ahead and finish it.
[01:09:26] Speaker ?: Go ahead and finish it.
[01:09:56] Speaker 1: It does talk about Lonnie's baptism, right?
[01:10:17] Speaker 3: Yes.
[01:10:17] Speaker 1: And previously when you testified, you indicated that the reason you missed Lonnie's baptism is because you and Mr. Alexander were involved in a sexual liaison, right? Yes. And this was the sexual liaison where the Pop Rocks and the Tootsie Pops were involved, right? That's what you said, right?
[01:10:37] Speaker 3: I'd have to reference dates.
[01:10:39] Speaker 1: Well, why don't I show you a copy of the transcript then and see if that refreshes your recollection as to what you told us on February 12th.
[01:10:52] Speaker 3: I would appreciate that.
[01:10:53] Speaker 1: All right. I will. Starting with page five. Bottom, read that.
[01:11:26] Speaker 3: Would you like me to read it out loud?
[01:11:27] Speaker 1: To yourself.
[01:11:35] Speaker 3: Just the highlighted portion?
[01:11:37] Speaker 1: Nope. Just keep reading it.
[01:11:38] Speaker 3: Okay. Starting at the bottom, right?
[01:11:40] Speaker 1: Right. All right.
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[01:19:08] Speaker 1: Have you read the entire transcript that deals with the sexual encounter involving the pop rocks and Tootsie Pops?
[01:19:36] Speaker 3: Yes, I started where you highlighted and finished it.
[01:19:40] Speaker 1: Read it above it. Does that have anything to do with the Tootsie Pops or the Rock Pops?
[01:20:06] Speaker ?: Okay. Does the upper portion have anything to do with it? Yes. Why don't you read the previous page just to make sure that we covered everything involving that particular encounter. That particular encounter. Does the upper portion have anything to do with it or not? Yes. Why don't you read the previous page just to make sure that we covered everything involving that particular encounter. Does the upper portion have anything to do with it? Yes. Does the upper portion have anything to do with it or not? Yes.
[01:20:22] Speaker 1: Why don't you read the previous page just to make sure that we covered everything involving
[01:20:27] Speaker ?: that particular encounter.
[01:20:27] Speaker 1: Does the upper portion have anything to do with it or not? Yes. Why don't you read the previous page just to make sure that we covered everything involving
[01:20:34] Speaker ?: that particular encounter.
[01:20:34] Speaker 1: Does the upper portion have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not?
[01:20:36] Speaker ?: Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not?
[01:20:39] Speaker 2: Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not?
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[01:21:11] Speaker 3: Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not?
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[01:21:19] Speaker 2: Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not?
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[01:23:03] Speaker 3: Do you have anything to do with it or not?
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[01:28:16] Speaker ?: Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not?
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[01:28:21] Speaker ?: Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not?
[01:28:33] Speaker 2: Do you have anything to do with it? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? Do you have anything to do with it or not? All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are going to take the noon recess at this time. Please be back in the jury room at 1:25. Remember the admonition. Have a nice lunch. You are excused. All eyes. The record will show the jury has left the courtroom. It's serious. You may step down. Mr. Nermy, you need some additional time? You may be seated in the back of the courtroom. Do you need some additional time? Yes, Judge. This is several pages and excerpts have been removed. All right, pick it up at 1:25. We're at recess.
[01:30:06] Speaker ?: Thank you.