JD Vance: Iran doesn’t get ‘A DIME’ if they don’t do this…

[0:01] WELCOME TO HANNITY AND WE [0:03] START WITH THIS FOX NEWS ALERT. [0:05] IN JUST ONE MOMENT WE WILL BE [0:07] JOINED BY THE VICE PRESIDENT OF [0:09] OUR COUNTRY, J.D. VENCE IS IN [0:11] STUDIO WITH US. [0:12] GREAT TO HAVE YOU. [0:13] NO TOPIC OFF LIMITS INCLUDING [0:15] THE HISTORIC PEACE AGREEMENT WITH [0:17] IRAN THAT DEFIED EXPECTATIONS, [0:19] GOT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE THANKS [0:21] IN PART TO THE VICE PRESIDENT. [0:23] WE WILL DISCUSS THE PRESIDENT'S [0:25] TRIP THAT IS ONGOING FOR THE G7. [0:27] WHAT DOES THE VICE PRESIDENT [0:29] RUNNING IN MIDTERMS? [0:31] WHAT DOES THE VICE PRESIDENT [0:33] RUNNING IN MIDTERMS? [0:34] WHAT ABOUT 2028? [0:36] AND WILL VICE PRESIDENT VENCE [0:38] MAKE IT OFFICIAL TONIGHT RIGHT [0:39] HERE AND THROW HIS HAT IN THE [0:41] RING? [0:42] AS YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF GROUND TO [0:44] COVER. [0:45] WHY IS HE GOING ON THE VIEW [0:47] INCLUDING THE VICE PRESIDENT'S [0:49] VERY FIRST BOOK SINCE HIS WORLD [0:51] FAMOUS HILLBILLY ELEGY, IT'S [0:53] ENTITLED COMMUNION, FINDING MY [0:55] WAY BACK TO FAITH. [0:56] IT IS OFFICIALLY OUT TOMORROW. [0:58] I'M STILL HAPPY. [0:59] I'M STILL HAPPY. [1:00] I'M STILL HAPPY. [1:01] I'M STILL HAPPY. [1:02] I'M STILL HAPPY. [1:03] I'M STILL HAPPY. [1:04] I'M STILL HAPPY. [1:05] I'M STILL HAPPY. [1:06] I'M GOOD. [1:07] I'M GOOD. [1:08] I DON'T GET TO SEE YOU IN [1:09] PERSONAL A LOT. [1:10] YEAH, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. [1:13] OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOW, YOU START [1:15] OFF THIS LIFE IN APPALACHIA AND [1:17] VERY TOUGH UPBRINGING, VERY POOR [1:19] UPBRINGING, DIFFICULT TIMES, [1:21] ABUSE AT HOME. [1:22] YOUR MOM STRUGGLED WITH [1:23] ADDICTION. [1:24] YOU HAVE A DEVOUTE GRANDMOTHER. [1:26] NOW YOU'RE NEGOTIATING WHAT MIGHT [1:28] BE THE PATH TO PEACE IN THE [1:29] MIDDLE EAST FOR THE FIRST TIME [1:31] IN HOWEVER MANY THOUSANDS OF [1:32] YEARS. [1:33] NOT A BAD LIFE. [1:34] NOT A BAD LIFE AT ALL, MAN. [1:35] ONLY IN AMERICA. [1:36] AND I THINK THAT IF YOU HAVE A [1:38] LIFE LIKE I HAVE LED, YOU HAVE [1:40] TO HAVE INCREDIBLE GRATITUDE TO [1:41] THE COUNTRY. [1:42] AND THE BEST WAY TO SHOW THAT [1:43] GRATITUDE IS TO TRY TO DO AS [1:44] GOOD OF A JOB AS HUMANLY [1:45] POSSIBLE. [1:46] THAT'S WHAT I WRITE ABOUT IN THE [1:48] BOOK FUNDAMENTALLY IS THIS SENSE [1:50] THAT, YOU KNOW, MY LIFE HAS BEEN [1:52] SO CHARMED. [1:53] IN SOME WAYS, THINGS HAVE BEEN A [1:54] STRUGGLE. [1:55] BUT IN A LOT OF WAYS, MAN, I'VE [1:56] JUST BEEN SO BLESSED. [1:58] AND THERE'S THIS SENSE THAT GOD [2:00] WAS ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR ME. [2:01] EVEN WHEN I STRAID FROM THE PATH, [2:03] EVEN WHEN I CALLED MYSELF AN [2:04] ATHEIST, THAT FAITH THAT MY [2:06] GRANDMOTHER HAD SORT OF IMBUED [2:07] ME WITH WAS ALWAYS THERE IN THE [2:09] BACKGROUND. [2:10] AND, OF COURSE, IT'S AN [2:11] IMPORTANT PART OF THE WAY THAT I [2:12] GO ABOUT MY DUTIES TODAY. [2:13] BUT IT'S JUST AN IMPORTANT PART [2:16] OF WHO I AM. [2:17] IT FUNDAMENTALLY ILLUMINATES [2:18] EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT ME. [2:19] AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL PICK [2:21] UP THE BOOK AND LEARN A LITTLE [2:22] BIT ABOUT ME AND LEARN A LITTLE [2:23] BIT ABOUT MY FAITH JOURNEY AND [2:24] MAYBE IT WILL BE USEFUL TO [2:25] THEM. [2:26] WELL, WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN [2:27] MORE DETAIL. [2:28] ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT [2:30] THE IRANIAN DEAL. [2:31] SURE. [2:32] WHAT FRUSTRATES ME ABOUT THE [2:34] IRANIANS, DONALD TRUMP SAYS A, [2:36] AND THEY, SOMEBODY WILL COME OUT, [2:38] SOME ASPECT OF THAT GOVERNMENT [2:40] AND CONTRADICT WHAT THE PRESIDENT [2:43] SAID. [2:44] YEAH. [2:45] AND THEY CAME OUT WITH, QUOTE, [2:47] A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, [2:49] WHICH IS WHAT WAS SIGNED. [2:50] OFFICIAL SIGNING ON FRIDAY IN [2:52] GENEVA. [2:53] AND IT CONTRADICTED A LOT OF [2:55] WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID. [2:56] ANY OF THAT TRUE? [2:57] NO, IT'S NOT. [2:58] SO I'VE SEEN A LOT OF [2:59] MISINFORMATION OUT THERE. [3:00] I'VE SEEN $24 BILLION GOING FROM [3:02] THE UNITED STATES TO IRAN. [3:03] THAT NUMBER IS TOTALLY FALSE, [3:05] TOTALLY MADE UP. [3:06] FUNDAMENTALLY WHAT THIS THING [3:07] DOESN'T HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON. [3:10] IT DOESN'T HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON. [3:12] NUMBER THREE, IT DOES GO AND SAY [3:14] LOOK, IF THE IRANIANS ARE WILLING [3:16] TO CHANGE THEIR WAYS, IF THEY [3:18] ARE WILLING TO BEHAVE LIKE A [3:20] NORMAL COUNTRY, STOP TRYING TO [3:22] BUILD A NUCLEAR WEAPON, STOP [3:24] TRYING TO FUND TERRORISM ALL OVER [3:25] THE MIDDLE EAST, THEN WE ARE [3:27] WILLING TO ACTUALLY FUNDAMENTALLY [3:28] TRANSFORM OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH [3:29] THEM. [3:30] THAT'S WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS [3:32] OFFERED. [3:33] OF COURSE, WE WOULD NEED TO [3:35] VERIFY THAT. [3:36] WE WOULD NEED TO SEE REAL [3:38] PROGRESS AND REAL ACTION, NOT [3:39] JUST WORDS. [3:40] ABSOLUTELY. [3:41] IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT THERE IN THE [3:43] AGREEMENT, SEAN. [3:44] HERE'S THE THING. [3:45] YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. [3:46] SOMETIMES WHEN, YOU KNOW, [3:48] INFORMATION ABOUT THIS DEAL [3:49] WILL LEAK OUT. [3:50] YOU'LL HAVE SOMEBODY ON A [3:52] PROPAGANDA CHANNEL IN THAT [3:54] COUNTRY IN IRAN WHO WILL SAY [3:55] SOMETHING THAT ISN'T TRUE. [3:56] I THINK IT'S SORT OF EXPECTED. [3:58] IT FRUSTRATES ME TOO. [3:59] BUT IT'S EXPECTED THAT SOME [4:01] YAHOO IS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING [4:02] ABOUT THE DEAL THAT IS UNTRUE. [4:03] WHAT REALLY BOTHERS ME AND [4:05] FRUSTRATES ME AND IS UNEXPECTED [4:07] WHEN THE AMERICAN MEDIA LITERALLY [4:10] PICKS UP TALKING POINTS AND [4:12] PROPAGANDA FROM THE RAGC THAT [4:14] HAS NO SUPPORT IN THE TEXT OF [4:16] THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE [4:17] ACTUALLY NEGOTIATED AND NO [4:19] BASIS IN REALITY. [4:20] THIS IS GOOD FOR THE AMERICAN [4:22] PEOPLE. [4:23] THE IRANIANS DON'T GET A DIME [4:26] UNLESS THEY BEHAVE AND CHANGE [4:27] THEIR BEHAVIOR AND THIS MEANS [4:29] THAT IRAN WILL NEVER HAVE A [4:31] NUCLEAR WEAPON. [4:32] WHEN YOU SAY THEY DON'T GET A [4:33] DIME, DO THEY EVER GET AN [4:34] AMERICAN DIME, A TAXPAYER [4:35] DOLLAR? [4:36] NO. [4:37] NUMBER ONE, FIRST OF ALL, THEY [4:39] NEVER GET A DIME OF AMERICAN [4:40] TAXPAYER MONEY EVER. [4:41] FULL STOP. [4:42] NOT EVEN CLOSE. [4:43] WHAT WE HAVE SAID IS THERE'S A [4:45] LOT OF ECONOMIC BENEFIT IN THE [4:46] UNITED STATES RELIEVING A LOT [4:47] OF SANCTIONS AND WELCOMING THEM [4:48] BACK INTO THE WORLD ECONOMY. [4:50] THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFIT THERE. [4:51] NOT AMERICAN MONEY BUT THERE'S A [4:53] LOT OF ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THAT [4:54] CAN FLOW FROM THAT. [4:55] WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID TO THEM [4:56] IS WE WANT YOU TO BE A [4:57] SUCCESSFUL COUNTRY. [4:58] BUT FOR YOU TO BE A SUCCESSFUL [5:00] COUNTRY, YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE UP [5:01] ON THIS THREAT. [5:02] YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE UP ON THIS [5:03] DESIRE TO HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON. [5:04] AND IF YOU DO THAT, THE [5:05] UNITED STATES IS WILLING TO HAVE [5:06] A MUCH BETTER RELATIONSHIP. [5:07] LET ME GO TO THIS. [5:08] THE NUMBER ONE REPORT THAT I'VE [5:10] BEEN READING LEADING UP TO THIS [5:12] INTERVIEW TONIGHT IS THAT THE [5:14] QUATARIS ARE GIVING THEM $300 [5:16] BILLION WITH THE SIGN SEALED [5:19] AND APPROVAL OF THE U.S. [5:21] THE PRESIDENT DID PUT OUT A [5:23] TRUTH DENYING ALL OF IT. [5:24] IRAN HAS AGREED TO NEVER HAVE A [5:26] NUCLEAR WEAPON. [5:27] AND THE STORY THAT THE U.S. [5:29] IS PAYING IRAN $300 MILLION [5:31] IS FAKE NEWS. [5:32] WE ARE NOT GIVING THEM AN [5:35] AMERICAN DOLLAR, NUMBER ONE, [5:37] TRUE. [5:38] AND NUMBER TWO, DID THE U.S. [5:40] EVER SIGN OFF ON THE QUATARIS [5:42] PAYING THEM THAT MONEY? [5:43] NO. [5:44] THE AGREEMENT SAYS THEY ARE NOT [5:46] GETTING A SINGLE DIME OF [5:47] AMERICAN MONEY. [5:48] THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS. [5:50] WHAT THE AGREEMENT DOES SAY, [5:52] SEAN, IS AGAIN, IF THE [5:54] IRANIANS BEHAVE, AND IF THERE [5:56] ARE SANCTIONS RELIEF, AND IF [5:58] THERE ARE SANCTIONS RELIEF, AND [6:00] IF THE IRANIANS ARE INTEGRATED [6:02] INTO THE WORLD ECONOMY, WE WOULD [6:03] INVITE OTHER COUNTRIES, NOT US, [6:05] BUT OTHER COUNTRIES TO INVEST IN [6:07] THEIR COUNTRY. [6:08] THAT'S FINE. [6:09] BUT ONLY IF THEY COMPLY WITH [6:11] THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT. [6:12] REALLY, WE HAVE AN OPTION HERE. [6:14] RIGHT? [6:15] THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED [6:16] STATES HAS GIVEN US OPTIONALITY [6:18] WHICH IS GREAT FOR THE [6:19] AMERICAN PEOPLE. [6:20] STEP BACK FOR A SECOND. [6:21] THEIR CONVENTIONAL MILITARY IS [6:22] DESTROYED. [6:23] THEIR NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM [6:24] IS DESTROYED. [6:25] THE STRAIGHT OF HORMUZ IS NOW [6:27] OPEN. [6:28] IS IT OPEN TOLL FREE? [6:30] IT IS OPEN TOLL FREE. [6:31] THAT'S VERY EXPLICIT IN THE [6:32] AGREEMENT. [6:33] BUT NOW WE HAVE TWO PATHWAYS WE [6:34] CAN GO DOWN. [6:35] PATHWAY NUMBER ONE IS THE [6:37] IRANIAN ECONOMY CONTINUES TO BE [6:38] STRANGLED. [6:39] WE DON'T WANT THAT. [6:40] THAT'S NOT OUR DESIRE. [6:41] BUT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GET [6:43] PATHWAY TWO, WHICH IS [6:44] REINTEGRATION INTO THE WORLD [6:45] ECONOMY, THEY HAVE TO BEHAVE [6:46] LIKE A NORMAL COUNTRY. [6:47] IT'S A VERY SIMPLE PRINCIPLE [6:49] ACTUALLY. [6:50] AND WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS [6:52] THAN PREVIOUS ITERATIONS OF THE [6:54] IRANIAN GOVERNMENT, PREVIOUS [6:55] NEGOTIATIONS IS ONE, THE [6:57] PRESIDENT IS NEGOTIATING FROM A [6:58] POSITION OF STRENGTH. [6:59] BUT NUMBER TWO, WE'RE ACTUALLY [7:00] TALKING DIRECTLY TO THEM. [7:01] AND I CAN'T TELL YOU, SEAN, [7:03] IF FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD [7:04] THEY'RE GOING TO HONOR THAT [7:05] COMMITMENT BECAUSE I CAN'T [7:06] PREDICT THE FUTURE. [7:07] WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS IF THEY [7:09] DON'T HONOR THEIR [7:10] COMMITMENTS, THEY DON'T GET A [7:12] DIME FROM ANYBODY, THE UNITED [7:14] STATES EVER, BUT A DIME FROM [7:16] ANYBODY ELSE EITHER. [7:17] THE PRESIDENT HAS TOLD ME MANY [7:19] TIMES, HE SAID, I CAN GO BACK [7:21] TO BOMBING AND OBLITERATE THEM [7:23] IN FIVE MINUTES AT ANY POINT I [7:24] WANT. [7:25] HOW IMPORTANT WAS IT THE TWO [7:27] ATTACKS THAT TOOK PLACE LAST [7:29] WEEK, ONE AFTER AN APACHE [7:31] HELICOPTER OF OURS WAS HIT? [7:33] WELL, WHAT IT DID, SEAN, IS [7:35] IT SHOWED THAT WE WERE SERIOUS. [7:37] THAT THERE REALLY ARE TWO [7:38] OPTIONS HERE. [7:39] THERE'S THE MILITARY OPTION, [7:41] THERE'S THE DIPLOMATIC OPTION, [7:42] AND IF THEY WERE NOT GOING TO [7:43] CHOOSE THE DIPLOMATIC OPTION, [7:44] THE PRESIDENT STILL HAD [7:45] MILITARY OPTIONS TO USE. [7:46] BUT IT'S NOT JUST THAT, SEAN. [7:48] ONE OF THE THINGS THE [7:49] AMERICAN MEDIA HAS TOTALLY [7:50] UNDERREPORTED IS YOU TALK ABOUT [7:51] THE STRAIGHT OF HORMOUZ. [7:52] THE IRANIANS TRY TO CLOSE OFF [7:54] THE STRAIGHT TO TRY TO CHOKE [7:56] OFF THE WORLD ENERGY ECONOMY. [7:57] THE AMERICAN MEDIA HAS TOTALLY [7:59] UNDERREPORTED THE FACT THAT [8:00] OVER THE PAST THREE WEEKS, [8:01] WE'VE GOTTEN MORE OIL OUT OF [8:03] THE STRAIGHT OF HORMOUZ UNDER [8:05] THE SUPERVISION OF THE UNITED [8:06] STATES CENTRAL COMMAND THAN WE [8:08] HAD THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF [8:10] THIS OPERATION. [8:11] WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? [8:12] THAT MEANS THE IRANIANS' [8:13] LEVERAGE WAS REDUCING BY THE [8:15] DAY. [8:16] THAT MEANS THAT OUR POSITION WAS [8:17] GROWING STRONGER BY THE DAY. [8:18] AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'VE [8:19] CUT WHAT IS FUNDAMENTALLY A [8:20] GOOD DEAL FOR THE AMERICAN [8:21] PEOPLE ASSUMING THE IRANIANS [8:22] FOLLOW THROUGH. [8:23] AND IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH, [8:25] THERE'S NO SKIN OFF OUR [8:26] BACK. [8:27] NOTHING CHANGES FROM WHERE WE ARE [8:28] RIGHT NOW. [8:29] A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE [8:31] QUESTIONING WHY NOT RELEASE THE [8:32] MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. [8:33] YOU SAID IT WILL HAPPEN THIS [8:34] WEEK. [8:35] CORRECT. [8:36] SO THERE ARE SOME [8:38] DIPLOMATIC PROTOCOLS, SEAN. [8:39] THERE ARE SOME SEQUENCING THAT [8:41] THE PAKISTANIS HAVE BEEN [8:42] INVOLVED IN THIS. [8:43] THE QATARIS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED [8:44] IN THIS. [8:45] WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID IS [8:46] THE AGREEMENT WILL COME OUT [8:47] ON FRIDAY. [8:48] HE MAY DECIDE TO RELEASE THE [8:49] AGREEMENT SOONER THAN THAT. [8:50] BUT WE HAVE THIS FORMAL [8:51] CEREMONY ON FRIDAY AND THAT'S [8:52] WHEN THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW [8:53] WANTS TO RELEASE THE MEMORANDUM. [8:55] LET ME GET TO THIS. [8:56] THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT [8:57] THING. [8:58] THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN MOST [9:00] CONSISTENT ON THIS POINT. [9:02] THAT IS THEY CANNOT AND WILL [9:04] NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON. [9:05] CORRECT. [9:06] HOW WILL WE BE ABLE TO [9:08] VERIFY THAT? [9:09] WILL WE HAVE AMERICAN [9:11] SPECTORS ON THE GROUND? [9:13] WHAT HAPPENS TO THE NUCLEAR [9:15] DUST? [9:16] WILL IT BE DEGRADED OR WILL IT [9:19] BE REMOVED? [9:20] WILL WE BE A PARTY TO THAT? [9:22] WILL IT REFLECT WHAT WE DID IN [9:25] LIBYA YEARS AGO? [9:26] SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, [9:28] SEAN, IS DESTROY THE HIGHLY [9:30] ENRICHED MATERIAL, THE NUCLEAR [9:32] DUST AS WE CALL IT. [9:33] AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO DO [9:35] IT WITH THE IRANIANS. [9:36] THAT'S WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS [9:37] SAID. [9:38] HE WANTS US TO WORK WITH THE [9:39] IRANIANS, WITH THE [9:40] INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS TO [9:41] DESTROY THAT STOCKPILE OF [9:42] ENRICHED MATERIAL BECAUSE THAT [9:43] DOES SET THEM BACK A LITTLE [9:44] BIT FURTHER. [9:45] WE'VE ALREADY FUNDAMENTALLY [9:46] DESTROYED THEIR PROGRAM BUT [9:47] THAT DOES SET THEM BACK A LITTLE [9:49] BIT FURTHER AND THAT'S IMPORTANT [9:50] OF COURSE TO THE UNITED STATES [9:51] OF AMERICA. [9:52] THEY'RE AGREEING NEVER TO [9:53] ENRICH. [9:54] THEY'RE AGREEING RIGHT NOW TO [9:56] ELIMINATE THE ENRICHED [9:57] STOCKPILE. [9:58] AND IF THEY DON'T GET TO A [10:00] POINT WHERE THEY AGREE TO STOP [10:01] ENRICHING, THEN THEY DON'T GET [10:02] THE OTHER BENEFITS OF THE [10:03] BARGAIN. [10:04] THAT'S THE WAY THIS IS SET UP. [10:05] A LOT OF THE TECHNICAL DETAILS [10:07] WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT OVER [10:08] THE NEXT MONTH, OVER THE NEXT [10:09] TWO MONTHS, BUT THE BASIC [10:11] STRUCTURE IS THEY CAN GET A LOT [10:13] IF THEY COMPLY WITH THE UNITED [10:15] STATES DEMANDS. [10:16] THEY DON'T GET ANYTHING IF THEY [10:18] DON'T COMPLY WITH ANYTHING. [10:19] ONE OF THE MORE [10:21] FRIGHTENING THINGS WE LEARNED [10:22] IN EPIC FURY IS THE BALLISTIC [10:24] MISSILE RANGE. [10:25] THEY CAN HIT PARIS, THEY CAN HIT [10:26] LONDON. [10:27] DOES THAT HAVE TO COME TO AN END? [10:29] THAT'S PART OF NOT FUNDING [10:30] TERRORISM. [10:31] THEY HAVE TO STOP BEING A FORCE [10:33] FOR REGIONAL INSTABILITY IN [10:34] THE REGION. [10:35] AND IF THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T GET [10:37] ANY OF THE BENEFITS OF THE [10:38] BARGAIN. [10:39] WHAT IS SO BRILLIANT ABOUT THE [10:41] WAY THE PRESIDENT HAS STRUCTURED [10:42] THIS IS HE'S SAYING, LOOK, THERE [10:44] ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE [10:45] POSSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE OF IRAN. [10:47] GREATER PROSPERITY, GREATER [10:48] ECONOMIC INTEGRATION WITH THE [10:49] WORLD. [10:50] BUT TO GET THOSE THINGS, THEY [10:52] HAVE TO BEHAVE LIKE A NORMAL [10:53] COUNTRY. [10:54] STOP FUNDING TERRORISM, STOP [10:55] TRYING TO DEVELOP A NUCLEAR [10:56] WEAPON. [10:57] AND THAT REALLY IS THE TRADE-OFF [10:58] HERE. [10:59] IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY THE BALL IS IN [11:01] THE IRANIANS COURT, SEAN, [11:02] BECAUSE WE ARE BETTER OFF [11:03] REGARDLESS. [11:04] THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM IS [11:06] DESTROYED WHATEVER ROUTE THEY [11:07] CHOOSE. [11:08] THE STRAIGHT OF HORMOUZ IS [11:09] OPEN WHATEVER ROUTE THEY [11:10] CHOOSE. [11:11] THEIR CONVENTIONAL MILITARY IS [11:13] DESTROYED WHATEVER ROUTE THEY [11:14] CHOOSE. [11:15] THIS GIVES THE IRANIANS [11:16] OPTIONALITY TO EITHER BECOME A [11:17] NORMAL COUNTRY OR NOT. [11:18] BUT THE UNITED STATES IS IN A [11:19] MUCH BETTER POSITION REGARDLESS [11:20] OF WHAT THEY CHOOSE. [11:21] YOU EXPRESSED AN OPTIMISM THAT [11:24] KIND OF SURPRISED ME EARLIER [11:25] TODAY IN BELIEVING THAT THE [11:28] RELATIONSHIP HAS CHANGED. [11:30] YOU REFERRED TO AND REFERENCED [11:32] THE FACT THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME [11:35] IN 47 YEARS AMERICA IS GOING [11:37] DIRECTLY TO THE LEADERSHIP THERE [11:39] INCLUDING HARDLINERS AND THE [11:41] MORE POLITICAL ALIGNED. [11:43] THAT'S TRUE? [11:44] THAT'S TRUE. [11:46] WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS LEVEL OF [11:48] DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THE [11:49] IRANIAN LEADERSHIP. [11:51] OF COURSE THE PREVIOUS GENERATIONS [11:53] OF IRANIAN LEADERSHIP ARE LARGELY [11:54] GONE THANKS TO WHAT'S HAPPENED [11:55] OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. [11:56] BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE [11:57] THAT'S INTERESTING, SEAN. [11:58] YOU TALK ABOUT HARDLINERS AND [11:59] MODERATES. [12:00] WHAT'S FASCINATING TO ME ABOUT [12:02] THEIR SYSTEM IS THAT WE'RE SEEING [12:04] EVEN PEOPLE THAT I WOULD HAVE [12:05] ASSUMED ARE HARDLINERS WHO ARE [12:07] KIND OF SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, [12:08] MAYBE IT WAS A MISTAKE FOR US TO [12:10] DO THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE [12:11] OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS. [12:12] MAYBE WE SHOULD TURN OVER A NEW [12:14] LEAF IN THE RELATIONSHIP WITH [12:15] THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. [12:16] AS THE PRESIDENT ALWAYS SAYS, [12:18] SEAN, DO WE TRUST ANYONE? [12:19] NO. [12:20] WE DON'T TRUST ANYONE. [12:21] WE DO VERIFY AND WE DO EXTEND [12:23] THIS HAND AND SAY, LOOK, IF YOU [12:25] GUYS ARE WILLING TO CHANGE, WE'RE [12:26] WILLING TO CHANGE HOW WE'VE [12:27] DEALT WITH YOU TOO. [12:28] LET'S TALK ABOUT ANYPLACE, [12:30] ANYWHERE, ANYTIME, U.S. [12:31] INSPECTORS? [12:32] THAT PART OF THE DEAL? [12:33] THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING [12:35] THAT WE ARE NEGOTIATING OVER, [12:36] SEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE FINAL [12:37] DETAILS THAT'S GOING TO BE [12:38] FIGURED OUT HERE. [12:39] IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL [12:41] OBAMA JCPOA, THERE WERE A [12:43] COUPLE OF BIG PROBLEMS WITH IT. [12:44] NUMBER ONE, BY THE WAY, IS THAT [12:46] THE GULF Arabs HATED THE OBAMA [12:47] DEAL. [12:48] WHY? [12:49] BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT IT [12:51] EMPOWERED THE IRANIANS TO BE [12:53] A MALIGN ACTOR AND ACTUALLY [12:55] ENRICHED THE IRANIANS WHILE [12:56] THEY WERE MISBEHAVING. [12:57] THIS DEAL, THE GULF Arabs LOVE [12:59] BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS [13:00] THE KIND OF DEAL THAT CAN [13:03] FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM THE [13:04] MIDDLE EAST. [13:05] ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH THAT DEAL [13:07] IS THAT THE INSPECTIONS REGIME [13:09] WAS EFFECTIVELY NONEXISTENT. [13:10] THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT THERE, [13:12] BUT IT WAS BASICALLY NONEXISTENT. [13:13] THIS GOES BACK TO OUR [13:15] FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE HERE. [13:16] THAT IF THEY SHOW VERIFIABLE [13:18] COMMITMENT AND THAT MEANS A REAL [13:20] INSPECTIONS REGIME, THEN THEY [13:21] CAN GET THE BENEFITS OF THE [13:22] BARGAIN. [13:23] OBAMA TOOK A SHOT AND SAID [13:25] I DON'T THINK THIS DEAL IS [13:27] ANY BETTER THAN THE DEAL WE HAD [13:28] BEFORE. [13:29] I THINK PRESIDENT OBAMA, HE [13:31] SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE [13:32] PEOPLE WHO ARE CLOSEST TO THIS, [13:33] THEY LOVE THE TRUMP DEAL. [13:34] I WOULD ASK THE PRESIDENT, THE [13:36] FORMER PRESIDENT, I WOULD SAY [13:37] OBAMA, WHY IN THE WORLD, IF [13:39] IT'S THE SAME THING, WHY IS IT [13:41] THAT THE GULF ARABS HATED YOUR [13:42] DEAL AND THEY LOVE OUR DEAL? [13:44] THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE IN [13:45] THE REGION. [13:46] THEY KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO [13:47] ENRICH THE WORST TERRORIST [13:48] REGIME IN THE WORLD AND THEY [13:49] ALSO KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO [13:50] TURN OVER A NEW LEAF AND TO GO [13:52] TO A DIFFERENT FUTURE. [13:53] SO I THINK PRESIDENT OBAMA, HE [13:55] SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE [13:57] PEOPLE WHO ARE CLOSEST TO THIS, [13:58] THEY LOVE THE TRUMP DEAL. [13:59] THEY HATE THE OBAMA DEAL. [14:01] AND THAT'S MAYBE THE BIGGEST [14:02] ENDORSEMENT OF THIS PLAN. [14:03] OKAY. [14:04] SO I JUST WANT TO JUST BEAR [14:05] DOWN. [14:06] THEY'RE GOING TO HAND OVER THE [14:08] NUCLEAR DUST. [14:09] THEY'RE AGREEING TO NO NUCLEAR [14:10] WEAPONS. [14:11] THEY'RE AGREEING TO INSPECTIONS. [14:13] THEY DON'T GET ONE U.S. [14:15] TAXPAYER DOLLAR. [14:16] AND, OKAY, YOU REALLY BELIEVE [14:19] THAT A REGIME THAT I WOULD ARGUE [14:22] COULD NOT BE TRUSTED. [14:23] I REFER TO IT AS A DEATH CULT. [14:26] THAT WHAT BROUGHT THEM TO THIS [14:28] POINT? [14:29] WHAT CHANGED? [14:30] IS IT THEY'RE NOW AT THE FOURTH [14:32] TIER OF LEADERSHIP? [14:33] WHAT DO YOU THINK CHANGED? [14:34] I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION. [14:35] FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T BELIEVE [14:36] ANYTHING, SEAN. [14:37] IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. [14:38] THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID WE HAVE [14:40] TO VERIFY. [14:41] WE'RE GOING TO REWARD ACTION. [14:42] WE'RE NOT GOING TO REWARD [14:43] WORDS. [14:44] BUT FUNDAMENTALLY WHAT'S CHANGED [14:46] IS, NUMBER ONE, WE'RE ON THE [14:47] THIRD OR FOURTH GENERATION OF [14:48] LEADERSHIP. [14:49] THAT IS TRUE. [14:50] NUMBER TWO, THEY'VE SEEN THAT THE [14:51] PRESIDENT IS SERIOUS. [14:52] THEY'VE SEEN THAT HE'S WILLING TO [14:53] EXERT THAT LEVERAGE AND ACTUALLY [14:54] DO WHAT'S NECESSARY IN ORDER TO [14:56] FORCE THE IRANIANS TO COME TO [14:57] THE TABLE. [14:58] AND NUMBER THREE, SEAN, THIS IS [14:59] IMPORTANT. [15:00] IT'S UNDERREPORTED. [15:01] THEIR ECONOMY HAS BEEN IN A [15:02] FREE FALL FOR A VERY LONG TIME. [15:04] SO YOU COMBINE THE PRESIDENT'S [15:06] LEVERAGE THAT HE'S PUT ON THEM, [15:07] YOU COMBINE THE NEW LEADERSHIP AND [15:09] YOU COMBINE THE FACT THAT THEIR [15:10] ECONOMY IS IN SHAMBALS. [15:11] AND I THINK THAT THEY SEE THERE'S [15:13] A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE TO TURN [15:15] OVER A NEW LEAF SO LONG AS THEY [15:16] DO THE RIGHT THING. [15:17] SO ON THE VERIFICATION [15:19] PROCESS, ONCE WE GET ALONG, [15:20] THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO GO ALONG [15:22] WITH THE COMMITMENTS THEY MADE OR [15:24] WHAT IS NEXT? [15:25] AND WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE PEOPLE [15:27] LIKE ME THAT HAVE BEEN VERY [15:30] SKEPTICAL OF THE REGIME? [15:31] FOR ALL THESE YEARS, NUMBER ONE [15:33] STATE SPONSOR OF TERROR, DEATH TO [15:34] ISRAEL, DEATH TO AMERICA. [15:36] I'M SKEPTICAL. [15:39] IF THIS IS ALL TRUE, REAGAN TALKED [15:42] ABOUT THIS IN 85. [15:43] HE SAID THERE MIGHT BE AN [15:45] OPPORTUNITY FOR PEACE IN THAT [15:46] REGION AND IT MIGHT BE ALL OF [15:48] THESE COUNTRIES FINALLY GETTING [15:49] ALONG AND YOU EVEN EXPRESSED [15:51] HOPE THAT THAT MIGHT BE A RESULT [15:52] OF THIS. [15:53] AGAIN, I'LL TELL YOU THE [15:55] GULF COAST COUNTRIES UNDER THE [15:56] PRESIDENT'S LEADERSHIP, THEY [15:57] ACTUALLY FEEL THAT THAT'S [15:58] POSSIBLE. [15:59] THEY DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING [16:00] EITHER. [16:01] THEY'RE NOT CERTAIN. [16:02] THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PREDICT WHAT [16:03] THE IRANIANS ARE GOING TO DO [16:04] FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, BUT THEY [16:05] SEE REAL OPPORTUNITY. [16:06] SO WE'RE GOING TO WALK DOWN [16:07] THIS PATHWAY. [16:08] WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW SERIOUS [16:09] THE IRANIANS ARE. [16:10] AND, SEAN, YOU ASK, WHAT IF [16:11] THEY DON'T MEET THESE [16:12] OBLIGATIONS? [16:13] WHAT IF THEY DON'T DO WHAT THEY [16:14] PROMISE THEY'RE GOING TO DO? [16:15] NUMBER ONE, THEY DON'T GET ANY [16:16] BENEFITS OF THE BARGAIN AND AS [16:17] THE PRESIDENT WOULD SAY, WE [16:18] HAVE ALL THE CARDS. [16:19] THEIR ECONOMY WILL STILL BE IN [16:21] VERY TOUGH SHAPE IF THEY [16:22] DON'T GET THE RELIEF THAT THEY [16:24] NEED TO GET IN ORDER TO MAKE [16:25] PROGRESS. [16:26] WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE [16:27] INCREDIBLE MILITARY MIGHT. [16:29] WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE [16:30] DIPLOMATIC LEVERAGE OVER THEM. [16:31] WE HAVE THE CARDS, AND IF THEY [16:33] DON'T UNDER THE COMMITMENT, [16:34] WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO [16:35] WHEN WE GET THERE. [16:36] SO, BASICALLY, THE [16:37] PRESIDENT, IF I HAD TO GUESS [16:38] OR INTERPRET, I'VE KNOWN [16:39] PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR 30 YEARS, [16:41] I WOULD SAY THAT MEANS GO BACK [16:42] AND RESUME BOMBING. [16:43] IT COULD. [16:44] IT COULD BE. [16:45] AND I DON'T THINK HE WOULD [16:46] HESITATE. [16:47] IT COULD MEAN THE BLOCKADE [16:48] GOES BACK ON, SEAN. [16:49] IT COULD MEAN A LOT OF THINGS, [16:50] BUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS [16:51] SAID IS HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO [16:52] THOSE THINGS. [16:53] HE WANTS IRAN TO BE A NORMAL [16:54] COUNTRY. [16:55] THEY'VE GOT TO ACT LIKE IT. [16:56] LET ME ASK YOU THIS. [16:57] THIS IS MORE PHILOSOPHICAL, [16:58] BECAUSE I HAVE FOUND THAT, AND [17:01] I'VE KNOWN DONALD TRUMP, [17:02] PRESIDENT TRUMP, FOR 30 YEARS, [17:04] AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRY [17:06] TO PORTRAY HIM AS AN [17:07] ISOLATIONIST. [17:08] I'M LIKE, WELL, HE WIPED OUT [17:10] THE ISIS CALPHATE, TOOK OUT [17:12] SOULEMANI, TOOK OUT BAGHDAD [17:14] AND ASSOCIATES, DROPED THE [17:15] MOTHER OF ALL BOMBS ON [17:16] AFGHANISTAN, AND COMMITTED TO [17:19] MIDNIGHT HAMMER, EPIC FURY, [17:21] AND MADURO. [17:22] THAT'S NOT AN ISOLATIONIST. [17:23] NO. [17:24] HE'S NEVER BEEN AN ISOLATIONIST. [17:25] WHAT HE IS, SEAN, IS I WOULD [17:26] SAY HE HAS AN AMERICA FIRST [17:27] FOREIGN POLICY. [17:28] HE USES AMERICAN ECONOMIC AND [17:30] MILITARY POWER TO PURSUE THE [17:32] INTEREST OF THE AMERICAN [17:33] PEOPLE. [17:34] NOW IT'S INTERESTING THOUGH, [17:35] SEAN, PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK ME, [17:36] HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE [17:37] IRAN WAR DOESN'T BECOME A [17:39] QUAGMIRE, LIKE MAYBE SOME OF [17:40] THESE CONFLICTS WERE BACK IN [17:42] THE EARLY, YOU KNOW, 2000s? [17:43] AND I ALWAYS SAY THE WAY THAT [17:45] YOU PREVENT THAT IS THAT YOU [17:47] DO WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS DOING. [17:48] YOU SET CLEAR OBJECTIVES, YOU [17:50] ACCOMPLISH THOSE OBJECTIVES, [17:51] AND THEN YOU RE-EVALUATE [17:53] WHETHER YOU WANT NEW OBJECTIVES [17:54] OR WHETHER YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED [17:55] WHAT YOU NEED TO ACCOMPLISH. [17:56] AND THAT'S WHY THE PRESIDENT [17:58] HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO, THINK [18:00] ABOUT IT, VERY DISCRETE, [18:02] VERY SUCCESSFUL MILITARY [18:04] OPERATIONS THAT ARE PART OF A [18:05] BROADER STRATEGY TO MAKE [18:07] AMERICA BETTER OFF. [18:08] WHAT SHOULD AMERICANS [18:09] TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT YOU ARE [18:10] SAYING HERE TODAY, THE HOPE [18:12] YOU'RE EXPRESSING, THAT WE'VE [18:14] TURNED A CORNER, THIS CONFLICT [18:16] CAN END, AND WHAT ABOUT OTHER [18:18] COUNTRIES THAT MAY REMAIN IN [18:20] CONFLICT WITH THEM? [18:21] OBVIOUSLY ISRAEL WOULD BE ONE. [18:23] YEAH, WELL, LOOK, IF THIS [18:24] DEAL WORKS, AND IF WE ACTUALLY [18:26] GET THE THINGS THAT WE EXPECT [18:28] OUT OF THIS NEGOTIATION, THEN [18:30] WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BROADER [18:32] REGIONAL STABILITY AND PEACE. [18:33] THE REASON WHY OUR [18:35] ARAB ALLIES, OUR GOLF ALLIES [18:37] ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS IS [18:38] BECAUSE THEY THINK THIS IS A [18:40] NEW DAY IN THE MIDDLE EAST. [18:41] BUT AGAIN, IF IT'S NOT, THEN [18:44] IT'S NOT. [18:45] IF THE IRANIANS DON'T COMPLY, [18:46] THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK [18:48] TO THE SAME RELATIONSHIP THAT [18:49] WE HAD BEFORE, WHERE WE HAVE [18:51] ALL THE CARDS. [18:52] I REALLY DO BELIEVE, IF YOU [18:53] THINK ABOUT THIS FROM THE [18:54] PERSPECTIVE OF THE [18:55] ISRAELIS, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU [18:57] KNOW, WE CARE MOST ABOUT THE [18:58] AMERICAN PEOPLE, BUT THE [18:59] ISRAELIS HAVE BEEN GOOD [19:00] PARTNERS ON A LOT OF THIS [19:01] STUFF. [19:02] OUR PERSPECTIVE IS THIS HAS [19:04] ELIMINATED THE IRANIAN [19:05] NUCLEAR THREAT. [19:06] THAT'S GOOD FOR ISRAEL. [19:07] IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR THE REST OF [19:08] THE REGION. [19:09] WE'VE SUBSTANTIALLY WEAKENED [19:10] THEIR ECONOMIC AND MILITARY [19:11] MIGHT. [19:12] THAT'S GOOD FOR ISRAEL AND ALSO [19:13] THE REST OF THE REGION. [19:14] THIS DEAL IS GOING TO BE GOOD [19:15] FOR EVERYBODY. [19:16] IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD FOR [19:17] EVERYBODY. [19:18] IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD FOR [19:19] THE WHOLE WORLD. [19:20] I COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND [19:21] AFTER OCTOBER 7TH, IF YOU [19:22] EXTRAPOLATE OUT THEIR [19:23] POPULATION IN ISRAEL VERSUS [19:24] OURS, THAT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF [19:25] 40,000 DEAD AMERICANS IN A [19:27] DAY. [19:28] SURE. [19:29] DONALD TRUMP'S PRESIDENT, J.D. [19:30] VANCE'S PRESIDENT, 40,000 [19:31] AMERICANS DIE IN A DAY, WHAT [19:33] WOULD YOU DO? [19:34] GO ABSOLUTELY CRAZY. [19:36] THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD [19:37] DEMAND A SIGNIFICANT RESPONSE. [19:39] WE SAW THIS IN SEPTEMBER THE [19:40] 11TH, SEAN. [19:41] WE KNOCKED OUT TWO COUNTRIES [19:43] THAT WERE INVOLVED IN [19:44] TERRORISM PURELY BECAUSE OF [19:45] 9-11. [19:46] WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO [19:47] TERRORISM. [19:48] BUT I THINK WHAT THE PRESIDENT [19:49] HAS DONE HERE IS VERY [19:50] EFFECTIVE. [19:51] HE HAS, I THINK, DEFANGED THE [19:54] LARGEST STATE SPONSOR OF [19:55] TERRORISM. [19:56] HE'S INSURED THEY'RE NEVER GOING [19:57] TO GET A NUCLEAR WEAPON. [19:58] AND NOW HE'S ACTUALLY SAYING, [19:59] YOU KNOW WHAT? [20:00] NOW THAT YOU'RE IN A POSITION [20:01] WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE [20:02] LEVERAGE OVER US, WE HAVE [20:03] LEVERAGE OVER YOU. [20:04] LET'S MAKE A DEAL. [20:05] TAKE A BREAK. [20:06] MORE WITH J.D. Vance ON THE [20:07] OTHER SIDE, LIVE IN STUDIO. [20:08] ALL RIGHT. [20:09] THANKS FOR WATCHING. [20:10] CHECK OUT MY NEW PODCAST, [20:11] HANGING OUT WITH ME, SEAN [20:12] HANNITY. [20:13] THE BIG INTERVIEWS, THE [20:14] DEBATES YOU WON'T GET [20:15] ANYWHERE ELSE. [20:16] LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE FOR NEW [20:18] EPISODES EVERY TUESDAY AND [20:19] THURSDAY.