JD Vance: ‘Black history is not erased from public spaces’ — The View

[0:00] You come from a poor community. [0:02] Sure. [0:03] You know how hard it has been for people. [0:06] Two things, you talk a lot about your Catholic faith, [0:10] but the Catholic faith says we take in immigrants. [0:15] We take in people who don't have [0:18] or who are having a hard time. [0:20] Why did, how do you justify both things? [0:24] So let me say first a couple things, Whoopi. [0:26] So number one, the book is actually way less political [0:30] than you might think [0:31] if you were just watching this, [0:32] because obviously we're getting into the issues of the day. [0:34] 95% of the book is really not about politics. [0:37] You know, I kind of have to write about politics [0:39] because I'm the vice president, [0:40] but I want to answer your question. [0:41] So fundamentally, if you think about [0:43] what is immigration enforcement, [0:45] immigration is law enforcement. [0:47] It's somebody who has broken a law. [0:49] A law enforcement officer has to show up [0:51] and enforce that law. [0:52] Now inherently, sometimes that process [0:55] is not always going to be pretty [0:56] if you capture a video clip of it in the same way [0:59] that if you arrest somebody for committing [1:02] a violent or a non-violent crime, [1:03] sometimes it's not always pretty. [1:04] What I'm saying is the Catholic faith [1:07] is actually very, I think it strikes the right balance here. [1:11] It says the Christian faith, [1:12] I think this is true of Protestants and Catholics, [1:14] that you can have borders. [1:16] You're allowed to enforce your borders. [1:17] That means the law enforcement piece of it, [1:19] but you also have to take certain precautions [1:22] and certain care, okay? [1:23] And again, your argument is fundamentally, Whoopi, [1:26] you're saying that we don't strike the right balance. [1:28] I disagree with you about how we apply that, [1:30] but nobody hopefully is saying [1:32] we're not allowed to have a border. [1:34] What I'm saying is that in order for us [1:36] to actually enforce the law, [1:38] you can't set a standard that says [1:40] you're not allowed to deport anyone [1:42] unless they've committed a violent crime. [1:44] You've got to enforce the law equally and justly. [1:46] No, no, let me do my follow-up. [1:47] You don't have to raise your hand, Julie. [1:48] Let me do my follow-up. [1:49] Yes, I do. [1:50] As you were talking about people, [1:53] what did black people do to this administration [1:58] that has allowed it to really stigmatize folks of color? [2:05] And you know how hard it is. [2:08] You have folks of color in your family. [2:11] Sure. [2:12] So when you see, you know, [2:15] things, the Emmett Till stuff coming down [2:18] or them doing all kinds of removal of information [2:22] of black heroes, [2:24] how do you, how does that sit with you? [2:29] Well, what exactly are you talking about, Whoopi? [2:32] Because you just, I know Emmett Till was the kid. [2:34] I'm talking about the, I can tell you all the, yeah. [2:36] No, no, I want to know what she's, [2:37] I want to respond to your actual point. [2:39] So in, in a lot of the museums that just, [2:45] there's so many, I just, I, you know, [2:48] where they're taking down the actual history [2:52] that happened in this country. [2:53] Slavery happened, all kinds of stuff happened. [2:57] And it seems that it has been very easy [3:01] for this administration to remove that. [3:03] And also to denigrate black folks [3:09] who have worked their behinds off [3:12] to get this American dream. [3:14] How, how do you, I mean, you know that. [3:16] Let me, let me, let me, [3:21] so, so Sonny, that was actually [3:22] a very helpful intervention [3:23] because I think the story you're talking about [3:25] is where, you know, allegedly the administration [3:28] is holding back the appointments [3:30] of people based on skin color. [3:31] I've seen this story. [3:32] Well, I'm talking about a host of things. [3:33] I'm talking about black history getting erased [3:34] from public spaces. [3:35] Black voter districts are being dismantled. [3:38] Black leaders are being sidelined from our ranks. [3:41] Where do Americans of color fit in this vision? [3:44] Because it doesn't seem like we fit. [3:46] I think, Sonny, my view, let me. [3:49] And if I, and if I may, since, since October of last year, [3:53] there's been something like 6,668 refugees [3:56] allowed into the country. [3:58] All but three were white South Africans. [4:02] So, first of all, I'm very, [4:04] I'm very skeptical of that number [4:06] because we have a lot of different immigration pathways [4:08] in the United States of America. [4:09] But let me just address Whoopi's point. [4:10] Look, first of all, you asked the question, [4:12] and maybe you don't believe this coming from me, [4:15] but I think everybody is welcome in our political coalition. [4:18] Frankly, even if you didn't vote for us, [4:20] everybody is welcome in our country, [4:22] so long as you're an American citizen [4:23] with the duties and the legal obligations [4:25] and rights to be here. [4:26] But, Whoopi, let me just give you an example of this. [4:28] Okay, so you say that we're anti-minority [4:30] or anti-black. [4:31] No, I didn't say that, I asked, see. [4:33] Okay, okay, fine, fair, fair. [4:35] Don't start any stuff with me, man. [4:37] Don't get me in trouble. [4:39] Don't stop, but. [4:43] I misinterpreted your question, [4:45] but let me answer your actual question there. [4:47] What I'm saying, I think, okay, look at Washington, D.C. [4:51] One of the most democratic and one of the blackest, [4:54] by a share of population, blackest cities [4:56] in the United States of America, [4:57] has seen a radical decrease in violent crimes [5:00] and sexual assaults and in murders. [5:03] We have tried to take the crime issue seriously, [5:06] in part because we believe everybody, [5:08] whether you're black or white or rich or poor, [5:11] deserves to live in a safe neighborhood. [5:12] Why was, why does the crime, where does the crime step in? [5:15] I'm, I, I, this is not about crime, this is about. [5:18] 300,000 black women lost their jobs, right. [5:19] This is about, this is about human rights, so. [5:21] Sonny, you're, you're, you, what you're saying is, [5:25] we gotta do more on the economy. [5:26] And black history has been erased from public spaces. [5:28] Black history is not erased from public spaces. [5:29] That is true. [5:30] Guys, we do have to get to Iran when we get back. [5:33] There's some very important news to get to. [5:34] I'm telling you, we celebrate black history. [5:37] We celebrate all American history in this administration. [5:39] You guys might be skeptical of this, [5:41] but I promise you.