Tucker Carlson Discusses Regrets & Trump Split — The View

[0:00] I know this isn't going to come as a surprise because we told you this was happening last week, [0:04] but after years of supporting MAGA, Tucker Carlson is having a very public split [0:08] with You Know Who, which continued this weekend in an interview with the New York Times. [0:13] Take a look. [0:14] Trump engenders cowardice in the people around him through intimidation, [0:17] and there is a kind of quality that he has that's spellbinding, [0:21] and I think it probably literally is a spell. [0:24] And the effect is to weaken people around him and make them more compliant [0:29] and more confused, and I've experienced this myself. [0:31] You spend a day with Trump and sort of like you're in this kind of dreamland. [0:35] You've been talking on your show about whether Trump is the Antichrist. [0:39] I have not said that. [0:39] Here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, [0:44] mocking the god of gods, and exalting himself above them. [0:48] Could this be the Antichrist? [0:51] I don't know where that comes from, but I know that those words never left my lips. [0:59] This is more and more like Trump. [1:02] I mean, this is what happens. [1:05] You say, people are, there is video everything, everywhere of everything. [1:10] Anything you've said ever is on video. [1:13] So you always have to ask it like a question. [1:16] Did I remember saying that? [1:17] Did I say that? [1:19] You know, you can't say, I never said that question. [1:21] Then they go, pa-da! [1:22] He said it so dead. [1:24] He's like, I didn't say that. [1:25] Yes, you did, boo. [1:26] Yes, you did. [1:27] Shout out to Lulu Garcia Navarro, who's such a good interviewer. [1:30] If you have 90 minutes, it's actually worth watching [1:33] because she probes him the way only a journalist can. [1:35] She's not showing her opinion. [1:37] She's incredibly objective, and she has receipts on everything. [1:40] And my thing with Tucker in this, there's a lot. [1:43] But there's a lot. [1:44] It took, he basically says it took the war in Iran, [1:47] and then that Easter post that was like the AI image of Trump as Jesus, [1:50] that that was the final straw for him. [1:52] And I'm just trying to understand, [1:54] he's been consistent on opposing involvement in the Middle East. [1:56] I'll give him that. [1:57] But it was really that. [1:59] It was the Easter Jesus. [2:00] It wasn't years of things over the last decade. [2:02] It wasn't like the racism and the misogyny. [2:04] No, why would it be the racism? [2:06] And the xenophobia. [2:08] Why would it be any of those things? [2:10] It wasn't any of that. [2:13] Tucker Carlson got paid $20 million a year [2:16] to basically lie to the American people. [2:20] The judge found that he was a liar, [2:22] that he wasn't a real journalist, [2:24] that he was basically an entertainer. [2:26] And he sold his soul for that, those $20 million. [2:30] That's very clear to me. [2:32] And he says during this interview, [2:35] and I think I'm right, Alyssa, [2:36] because I watched it as well, [2:38] that he supported him for 10 years, [2:40] and he would do it again. [2:41] Yeah, he kind of implies he'd do it again. [2:43] He would do it again. [2:44] I mean, I just find keeping up [2:47] with Tucker Carlson's conversions very exhausting. [2:51] Yes. [2:52] Because he is a very different person [2:55] than the person who was on CNN's Crossfire years ago, [2:59] and a very different person [3:00] from the guy who was on Fox News, [3:01] and a very different person now [3:03] from the guy who he was five minutes ago. [3:05] So I just don't have the 90 minutes [3:07] to see which Tucker Carlson is gonna show up, [3:10] because it's like that song, you know, [3:11] well, the real Slim Shady, please. [3:13] I mean, it's like which one, [3:15] which of his shady personas is gonna show up? [3:18] But what I do care about are the normal people. [3:21] And Tucker Carlson has great influence [3:24] and a ton of followers, millions of followers, [3:27] so I'm not disputing that. [3:28] But I can tell you, you know, I live in South Florida. [3:31] It's a little enclave [3:32] that was incredibly supportive of Trump. [3:34] Yeah. [3:35] Girl, every Uber I'm getting into lately, [3:38] the Uber drivers that used to think he was macho man, [3:40] now think he's insane. [3:42] Really? [3:43] Tucker or Trump, because you could go either way. [3:45] Uber. [3:45] Drivers think that Trump is insane. [3:47] No, I don't think, I'm not sure. [3:49] So you've seen, you've seen at least in Florida. [3:50] I have seen it amongst my circle of friends. [3:54] I've seen it amongst the people [3:55] that I come into daily contact with, [3:57] who used to be red hat wearing, flag waving, [4:02] MAGA, all sorts of people. [4:03] A loss of support. [4:04] I've seen it. [4:05] When you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything. [4:07] And that's Tucker Carlson for me. [4:09] And the most glaring thing in this interview [4:12] was at one point he talked about the war in Iran [4:14] and how Donald Trump was merely a puppet [4:17] that Netanyahu was pulling [4:19] and he was able to be manipulated. [4:21] One thing we've never seen is Donald Trump [4:23] being able to be manipulated or told to do anything. [4:26] In fact, he chooses the opposite on principle. [4:29] But what we have seen, and we warned everyone around, [4:31] was he has a God complex [4:33] and he has a only I can solve this problem [4:36] that every president before me has seen open and clearly. [4:40] Tucker doesn't want to admit that part [4:41] because he fell for it. [4:42] He fell for all of it. [4:43] It's easier for Tucker to use anti-Semitic tropes [4:46] and to say basically the Israelis controlled everything [4:48] than to admit you supported a man [4:50] who didn't have the wherewithal [4:51] to make his own decisions as president of the United States. [4:54] That's the truth of it. [4:54] I think that Trump can be used by other people. [4:56] I don't think he's sophisticated. [4:58] I don't think. [4:59] I think it's a cop out to blame. [5:00] When it comes to war, [5:01] I think he saw what he did in Venezuela [5:04] and thought, oh, I can do it anywhere. [5:05] Yeah, but he was manipulated into the Venezuela thing. [5:10] They started showing him the videos of Maduro, [5:12] making fun of him. [5:13] Who, because do you think Pete Hegseth? [5:14] Marco Rubio. [5:15] Well, Pete Hegseth has, [5:17] will tell him whatever he wants to hear. [5:18] Pete Hegseth is an idiot, Marco Rubio is not. [5:20] It's more confirmation bias though. [5:21] It's that Trump does what he wants to do. [5:24] He finds the people who will tell him [5:25] what he wants to hear. [5:26] I just, I wanted Tucker to explain to me [5:29] the great replacement theory. [5:30] I'm still asking for that. [5:31] Well, he mentioned it hundreds of times on his show. [5:33] Well, I wanted to know how all these white people [5:36] could be replaced and nobody knows. [5:38] Mm-hmm. [5:39] Nobody said, what happened to the white family next door? [5:42] Nobody says, wow, there's a whole family [5:45] and now they're all black people? [5:50] And people believed it. [5:51] They believed this was happening in our country. [5:54] You know, if you, what did you say? [5:57] If you don't stand for anything, you'll fall for anything. [5:59] You'll fall for anything. [6:00] You know, if you didn't change the world, [6:14] you'll find a way of reading. [6:16] There's a whole family that was just a little bit [6:19] you know where you're working. [6:20] We're all in our country. [6:21] We're all in our country. [6:22] All right. [6:22] We're all in our country. [6:23] Let's go. [6:24] Yeah. [6:25] We're all in our country. [6:26] We're all in our country. [6:27] We're all in our country. [6:28] We're all in our country.