Usha Vance Says Views Don't Fit Neatly on Political Spectrum

[0:00] Second lady, Usha Vance, who was a registered Democrat [0:05] as recently as 2014, sat down for a new interview [0:09] and talked about whether her personal views [0:11] ever clash with her role as second lady. [0:16] Take a look. [0:17] I wonder if you feel fully comfortable [0:24] in the universe that you're in now? [0:27] What do you mean? [0:28] In the political universe that you're in. [0:30] Well, I do feel very comfortable in that [0:33] no one has ever asked me to engage [0:36] in any kind of litmus test on anything. [0:38] And I feel very comfortable in that world. [0:41] I don't feel like I have to walk around [0:42] pretending anything of any sort. [0:44] The expectation is that we are gonna be open-minded [0:46] and have a conversation and that I'll provide [0:49] meaningful input from the perspective of someone [0:54] who loves him and wants him to succeed. [0:56] So even if we don't agree, [0:59] I think it's always very productive. [1:02] And so I'm supposed to ask y'all, [1:03] does it surprise you to hear [1:05] her say that? No. [1:05] To hear her say this? [1:07] To say what? [1:08] That she doesn't always agree with her husband. [1:11] I think that's very relatable. [1:13] I don't always agree with my husband. [1:15] But I would hope that in a lot of the stuff [1:17] was talking about how persuasive he is. [1:19] He at one point said that he could, [1:22] she said he could either run for vice president [1:24] or have a fourth child. [1:25] And he said, oh, I have both. [1:27] I would hope that she's as persuasive back to him. [1:30] Cause I think when you have someone you trust and love [1:32] and you're not defending yourself, but you're listening, [1:35] she could really maybe get to him on some issues [1:38] he doesn't see from certain perspectives. [1:40] She doesn't talk to him about politics? [1:42] Is that what you said? [1:43] No, no, no. [1:43] She just said no one's told her how to speak or behave. [1:47] She says she's a close, that he has political advisors, [1:51] but that he certainly comes to her and asks her opinion [1:54] on certain issues. [1:55] Look, I think we're going through- [1:56] Well good, because other than politics, [1:58] what else does a couple have to talk about? [2:02] Don't forget to pick up the low fat milk. [2:05] What are the conversations? [2:06] I just think it's a difficult thing to talk about [2:10] because you don't know what's going on in a marriage. [2:12] And she's sitting there, [2:13] she's married to the vice president. [2:17] She was a Democrat in 2014. [2:19] She's pregnant now. [2:22] But I will say that it just couldn't be me. [2:24] It wouldn't be me. [2:25] I think our country's in an existential crisis. [2:28] This is not a game. [2:29] I think your values need to align, [2:30] especially times like this. [2:32] And some things are deal breakers. [2:34] I mean, one of the things [2:34] that he said about his wife's religion, she's Hindu. [2:37] He said, I do hope eventually that she is somehow moved [2:41] by the same thing that I was moved in by church. [2:44] Yeah, honestly, I do wish that [2:45] because I believe in the Christian gospel [2:47] and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it that way. [2:49] And she has said that her Hindu parents, [2:52] she's of Indian heritage, [2:53] their Hindu faith is what made them great parents. [2:56] And she doesn't want to separate from that. [2:58] So I think when your spouse is saying, [3:00] I want you to be a different religion, [3:02] I don't know, that's something [3:04] that's just very far apart to me. [3:06] The whole political scene right now is weird [3:08] because people, like you say, [3:10] she was a Democrat till 2014. [3:12] Her husband called Trump a moral disaster. [3:16] And yet here they are kissing his butt every day. [3:19] It's unbelievable to me how many people have done a 180 [3:22] on everything that they believed before for power. [3:25] For power and money. [3:27] And are you saying that maybe she has done that 180 [3:30] so that her husband could also for power? [3:32] Of course, she's addicted to the power also. [3:34] It feels like hypocrisy because this is a smart woman. [3:37] She is a lawyer, she was Yale educated. [3:40] I believe that's where they met. [3:41] This is a woman that had a life of her own [3:44] and now all of a sudden, maybe not so much. [3:47] I don't know. [3:48] I also think it's brave for a woman to say, [3:53] I disagree with, Vance I have very big problems with [3:57] is someone whose family is from Appalachia, West Virginia. [3:59] He made and wrote a book about being a hillbilly. [4:04] Is he really from there? [4:05] He's not from there. [4:06] He's from the Rust Belt and he made a $45 million movie [4:09] about poor people and he didn't even shoot it in the area [4:12] to provide jobs to the very people [4:14] that he was making money off of. [4:16] And so please read [4:18] what you're getting wrong about Appalachia instead. [4:20] That's a book that it's actually true. [4:23] But I do, we're talking about hypocrisy. [4:26] I've got some blow back before for criticizing, [4:29] I'm a lifelong progressive. [4:30] I had blue hair in rescue pit bulls. [4:34] But we also, I think there's something very patriotic [4:37] about criticizing your own party [4:38] and pointing out hypocrisies within your own party. [4:43] Democrats do it all the time. [4:44] We do it all the time. [4:44] No, completely. [4:45] But for her to feel a little bit like [4:47] doesn't know where she is, [4:48] I think there's a lot of people who do feel like this [4:50] and they don't have the time, [4:51] we necessarily all have to be looking at the news all day [4:53] and to be sort of like figuring out what's right and wrong. [4:55] There's days where I'm just like, I don't know anymore. [4:58] I'm just literally at the point where my party, [5:01] the person I'm voting for is anyone not a pedophile. [5:04] Is anyone not attracted to children? [5:09] Which party is that you're talking about? [5:10] I just mean like who's not in, [5:14] who doesn't think kids are hot? [5:15] I'm voting for that person. [5:17] She's got four kids. [5:18] She's got a lot of stuff on her mind and one coming. [5:21] Cause from what I recall, it's been so long. [5:24] That is not an easy thing to carry these babies. [5:28] And they seem to get bigger and bigger every year. [5:32] And she's got three other before that. [5:33] Yeah. [5:34] But listen, she, she, her life is her life. [5:39] Our lives are our lives. [5:40] We all are trying to do the best we can. [5:43] I'm not mad at any woman who's trying to live her life. [5:47] I'm not mad at her. [5:48] She didn't seem psyched to be in that interview either. [5:50] She seems like she's had it. [5:51] No, you know, and because yeah, she's swollen, you know, [5:55] she's carrying. [5:56] Her and Milani are just like, ugh. [5:58] They all seem miserable. [5:59] Give me a cigarette. [6:01] Yeah.